Doug and Jason Smith fill in on The Dan Patrick Show: 04/09/2018

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. There's gonna be some
tanking here in order to keep up with the Suns
and Grizzlies of the world. If they'll Grizzly build a lead,
Marketsol comes out and the Danes have also shut it
down for the end of the regular season. Fritzie, I
think you've got everybody sick here. Yeah, see, there you go. Absolutely,

(00:26):
Fred Couples as a sole spine Lebron have any chance
to win the m v P, and he was a
two way player this year. I would vote for him.
James Harden had the best defensive gats around him. But
I can't give James Harden credit because of the defense.
He doesn't play, but his team does. Let's say both

(00:46):
got hurt in November. I don't know the Cleveland make
the playoffs. Sitting in for Dan and the Dants from
the Mercedes a MG studio, and that makes my point.
Here's Doug Gottlieb and Jason Smith. Greetings, Welcome, and it
is the Dad Patrick Show here at Fox Sports Radio.
Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in for Dan. Can hear me

(01:06):
nights on Fox Sports Radio right here to eleven Pacific.
Doug Gottlieb manning daytime from twelve to three, like Patrick
Reid was manning the greens at Augusta yesterday, the most
likable golfer in the history of the planet, winning the Masters, dogging.
I'll tell you what the love fest with CBS and
Patrick Reid, the fans, how much they loved him, and

(01:28):
they loved every bit of his art warming story. I'll
tell you it just gets me right here. Having having
worked at CBS for six for five years, I can
tell you that normally the Masters the crowning of like uh,
Sergio last year, Sergio who was heckled and was not
always thought of as whiny right complaining I don't like Sergio.

(01:51):
You would have thought last year that Sergio had hung
the moon, right. And CBS is a great job of
of what I what I called dotting their eyes with hearts,
where you can just make any story into a gluin.
That was a tough one to spin. It's a tough
one to spin. And and here Patrick read is a
guy who like basically Babe Ruth did you know called

(02:15):
to his shot a couple of years ago where he's like,
I'm a top five golfer and golfers like. Then he
goes out and he wins Wired to Wire, wins the Master,
like nobody wins Wire to Wire. The guy who gets
off to a lead in the round one is like
the usually at a major. Granted the Master's more select field,
but he's usually like the guy you see early on

(02:37):
in a horror film, like I ain't making until the end, right,
no chance? And that was Patrick. He leads wire to
Wire and oh yeah, by the way, his parents have
right down the road and he's now. They weren't there
because they're strange and they don't get along, and they
don't speak, or at least he doesn't speak to them.
But nonetheless, the local kid comes back and makes good.

(02:57):
I can paint that story, but it was impossible. It's
really remarkable. And then he's wearing pink, like that should
make him, it looks like in Azalia, should make him
like like, if this many people don't get armed down
with the dude, he should be wearing all black, shouldn't he.
Him and his wife matched. They matched wonderfully as she
had the pink and the green and then the pink

(03:19):
and green pants. I mean, look, it was like it
was like a prom picture. Yes, they're a team. Obviously
they're dressed by dressed by was a Nike. Uh. But
if if he's going, if he's gonna wear the black hat,
he's gotta he's gotta completely, he's gotta go. Uh, he's
gotta go. Luke and Return of the Jedi come in,
just all black notts. They were to anybody, you know,
maybe even and you know you're a big wrestling guy,

(03:40):
maybe even throw a little Rick Flair afterwards, I have
sex with with other women. Nature boy, that was not
what I was. I was. I was, I was going. No,
I think you were going right there when you were
kicking things off that way earlier, That's what I was.
I was not going there though. I think the masters
and and this is where golf has an opportunity. They

(04:02):
always keep looking for the next Tiger Woods, right, Patrick
read your Master's champion, and you know everybody, let's try
to pain Let's let's try to find a new star.
Let's try is it Jordan's speech? Can we turn Rory
McElroy into a start? What can we do? What can
we do? Go the other way now? Because Patrick Reid
is your villain. He is your villain. If you can't
find a hero, find a villain. What made the Avengers

(04:23):
so good because they had a really good villain. How
many movies, boy, that's what we didn't do, you know
why because the villain stunk. I'm worried about Age of
Ultron because you know you have Ultron is uh Infinity
War because I'm saying, you know, Thounto says he's a
c G. I made villain. It's it's not cool. It's
hard to do that. But now you have a villain.
You have a guy who when they try to dive
into his past, found out well, he transferred schools. Uh

(04:46):
went to Augusta State, had instances where he would talk
down to and belittle the other players he played with.
He wouldn't keep an honest card in practice. So it's
like playing with my dad. When my dad and I
go out and play golf, I don't care because it's
my dad. But now, okay, you're you know, you're playing
off and now wait a minute, you're not. You're not
keeping a good track of your your score. Here, you're
you're kind of cheating. And then you get to the

(05:06):
point where, by the way, the necessary is kind of cheating.
It's well no, it's well, it depends my dad. My
dad kind of cheats, he has because no one cares
outside of you know, he and I. But you know,
oh yeah, oh he's my dad. Is would you get
on that whole dad? Six? Dad? I watch you hit
two shots out of the rough Dad too. But so
you have that in this past. All right, Well now

(05:28):
what's his present like? Well, he doesn't talk to his family,
doesn't talk to his mom and dad. And is he
a nice guy? Well not really. He actually said a
couple of years ago, I'm not out here to win
a popularity contest. Be the villain. Lebron James has for
so long held back of being the villain in the NBA,
which would even just making such true. He tried to
be the villain. Being the villains hard. Look at Kevin

(05:50):
trying to be I completely disagree. Ron could easily be
the villain. He tried to be the villain his first
year in Miami, and he didn't like it. He likes
to He likes to be loved by other players by
he wants he wants people to fall down at you know,
to bow down at his altar. That's what he wants.
But exactly I mean, it would be better, he'd be
easier for him if he was. Look, everybody hates me.

(06:11):
I get not worried about universal acceptance, which is what
he's been like for the majority of his career. But
here's Patrick Reads doesn't care. So okay, So you're the
villain man. Let people hate you, and suddenly you're a
huge draw and anybody who who duels down the stretch
against you is now okay. Now you're the person we love.
Everybody's rooting for Jordan's speak yesterday. No, do you see

(06:32):
the applause for Patrick Read yesterday? Usually it was it
was it was a golf all of a sudden, like
it's amazing, even how the story is painted like they're like, well,
Rory just didn't have it today. He didn't have it.
He hit a ball. Now he did par the first hole,
but he hit a ball so far right off the

(06:52):
tee he looked. It was actually the most relatable moment
to me, where he gets up there. You know, it's Sunday,
he's got a shot. It's Rory. Everybody's like he's playing
for the career slam and he gets up there and
that ball is still going right, if not for the
fact it's like somehow just nature and gravity kept it
down that he hit it right of the scoreboard, which

(07:14):
most people had not seen a ball hit off the
off the first heat right of the scoreboard. And so
when you hear the analysis, you know post round, Rory
just didn't happen. That's what happened in that voice. Now,
now speet was great, uh incredible sixty four and he
he won the day. On the other hand, you know,
Mrs A putt on seventeen and hits and when he

(07:36):
gets gets a little tight on eighteen and sprays the
drive and so is unable to score um. And and
then I thought, you know, Ricky, Ricky Fowler is the classic.
And I don't want to say backup quarterback because that
makes him seem inferior, because he's the best player to
not have won a major. I know he won the
players a couple of years ago, but I mean, Ricky,
what sixties seven sixty five over the weekend. Plus he's

(07:58):
got the best side piece going. And being from the
same old mater, you know, never forgets where's the orange
trousers on Sunday and everybody loved like man, Ricky's just unlucky.
I mean, he finishes four teen under that wins this
and this and this Masters, Like yeah, but it didn't
like he didn't win again, right, He's doing the Lee
Westwood things where we're like, oh, he almost like no,
but he didn't win. Whereas this guy Patrick Reed does win, right,

(08:22):
and he looks he looks every bit like the country
club kid the spot. He looks like smiles, not that
Uh it's mails, no judge spails. What's the Spalding? Right,
he looks it looks like Spalding Spalding where he looks
a little bit whiney, a little bit petulant to because
of how the narrative is set that people don't like him,

(08:46):
and he just but you know what he called a shot.
He led wire to wire. He won the Masters. I
know he only moved up to eleventh and the rankings,
but it's not not not crazy to say he's the
top five golfer right now, considering he's on the Ryder
Cup team last year. And uh, and yet I agree
with you, it's hard for golf to create and to

(09:06):
embrace a villain. But if you have the comeback story
in Tiger, if you have kind of the young Guns
and speech and Rory who everybody likes, the best player
who's never won the big one in Ricky, and now
you have the villain. Then I think, kind of you
have the complete set. This makes more of a complete
set for golf. So it's like an ensemble. It's like

(09:28):
it's it's like you have the big ensemble piece. I
don't know if it's one person anymore, right, or I
don't even necessarily know, but one. It's obviously not healthy
to sell one person when what what one person? But
it's kind of like like I like those movies like
con Air or arm again, not because I like the movies,
because I like how they paint each different personality, like

(09:48):
what their background is as they kind of enter the film, right,
And so now you have like you have one of everything.
You know, Noah's Ark yet two of everything in golf
that you have one of everything. You went Bible very no,
you went Bibile all the way to twenty one century movies. Wow,
that's beginning. You covered like hundreds and thousands of years
we did uncomfortably so Jason Smith gott Leeve in for

(10:09):
Dan Patrick. You know, it's it's almost like golf. If
you like the ensemble way, So like last night, Star Wars,
they unveil the new trailer for solo Star Wars story
that's coming out next month. And the last trailer that
came out was all about Han sol Aldon Aarin Reich
who's playing him, and it was like, oh, boy, man,
I don't know. He really doesn't have a lot of swagger.

(10:30):
I don't know if he can deliver those lines. Oh man,
I don't know about this. This is tough. So what
they do last night? The trailer comes out and it's
released during w W during Wrestleman and everything, and what
is it? Oh, now you see it's what he Harrelson
and it's Donald Glover who was bringing all kinds of
swagger and here's a millennium falcon and it's well, you know,
it's about more than just Han Solo. We realized, okay,
that didn't test very well, So now we were gonna

(10:52):
show you all these different pieces to it now, and
that's gonna help draw you in. If that's part of
what Golf tries to sell, that's great. They still need
Tiger to be that story. But if you have a villain,
if if if Patrick Reed becomes that guy and stays outspoken.
Put a microphone in front of him, let him do interviews,
let him be unfiltered, let him say Rory McElroy, you know,

(11:13):
let let him grab his crotch like Baker Mayfield. Because
Rory McElroy strategy did not work. Oh, let's see how
he does. Pressure is all on him on Sunday. Oh
screw you, mclor. You know he was just shooting bull's
eyes at at pictures of McElroy. Be that guy, because
that's what If you have a personality, then suddenly that's
going to amp you up. You know, you mentioned Rohda
Rousey real fast, and you know her personality wasn't that

(11:36):
great outside of when we talked w W last night.
Her personality is not that great. But they put her
in a good storyline with wrestling and wrestling with with
with Curt Angle and Stephan McMahon. Okay, now she can
do someone have to worry so much about carrying it.
But golf, if you have a personality, when Tiger Wood
is playing in winning, that was great. But when the
results aren't there, it's okay, Now we need something else,

(11:57):
and the results aren't gonna be there every week for
every golf for because no one's gonna win like Tiger Woods.
Nine of one's gonna do that. Nine of the last
ten major winners our first time winners at Major's right,
And that's to point to to follow up your yes,
you're right, is it's so unpredictable because there are so
many guys with so much game now right, this is

(12:18):
kind of what, honestly what Tigers created because there are
so many more in super talented golfers. You're right, you
have to have those, you almost have to. I hate
to hate to like. Look, I don't. I can't even
pretend to watch w w E. I can't hater man,
what's wow. We's not sports and it's not particularly well acted.

(12:39):
But outside of that where I'm all in um and
I you know, look, I used to watch Gummy Bears
when I was a kid. I don't do it now.
I used to watch Fraglon. You can watch eat gummy Bears. No,
there used to be a show on Saturday morning. It's
called Gummy Bears. The drink the gummy very juice and
they bounced all over the thing. That. Yeah, I was
watching wrestling on Saturday mornings. You go there there in

(13:01):
Bears is a Showmy Bears became a show. I mean
there was, that was a real thing. Did just show
you how to eat gummy bearers? There was? There was
no no, no, no gunmy bears were eaten in the
filming of any episode. That's okay if you eat the
gummy bears. So the point is though that that you're right,
there is a certain you have to create storylines for
more golfers in order for us maybe to buy it,

(13:24):
because I don't think the number is gonna be great.
The golf was incredible, incredible, Those guys are so good,
and look, that's that's It's not it's not a US Open,
or they cranked out the PGA, or it's not a
windy day at the Open Championship. But it's still Amen corner, right,
It's still a place to which we saw Sergio go
tin Cup and hit five in a row in the drink.

(13:45):
It's still one to which and we've seen Rory shaking
his boots on Sunday at Augusta. And yet those guys
were great yesterday, but the numbers aren't gonna be great
because Tiger wasn't involved. And so you're absolutely right. If
I'm pat agreed, and I'm advising Patrick Reed. I go
on every radio interview and I talk all the trash
possible and I take out all the negativity possible. I

(14:08):
disagree with you in terms, it's hard. It's been hard
on Kevin Durant this year's hard and Lebron James. It's
hard because people inherently want to be liked. They just do.
Everybody says that I don't want to be liked, but
it's hard to be loathed and go out and perform.
But if I'm Patrick Reeve, I think that's exactly the
game plan I should execute, not just for yourself, from
for your own future. But Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieben for

(14:31):
Dan Patrick Twitter at how about a Fresca Doug at
Gottlieb show, We got more from the Master's coming up
in fifteen minutes, gonna check in with Robert luc Stitch
and get all the latest on Tiger not playing well
over the course of four days, and Patrick read the
most likable Master's Champion, well not at all. But coming
up next major League Baseball, we have a new mania

(14:53):
sweeping the nation. We get into it next. Even though
the man to my left is so incredibly excited. All
you can do is see the a dark side of
what could happen with Otani Mania. It's next Fox Sports Radio.
Fox Sports Radio. It is The Dan Patrick Show, brought
to you by Mercedes AMG Driving Performance, Jason Smith, Doug
Gottlieb in for Dan. Can hear my show nights right

(15:14):
here on Fox Sports Radio eight to eleven, Doug Gottlieb
every day, twelve to three, right smack Dawn in the middle.
You do on your show today? Yep? Double look at
you man, Look I feel like it's it was a
huge sports weekend. Look, we're leading up to the NBA Playoffs,
which you begin next weekend. We're leading up to the
NFL Draft. Odell Beckham Jr. Is gonna report today and

(15:36):
gonna work out with the New York Giants. And then
you have and you and they have Masters and oh yeah,
by the way, you have Otani media, which he had.
What a perfect game going into the seventh inning last
night for the Angels, an absolute full house. And it's
it's fascinating to me on how people who don't live
in Southern California they'll say, hey, like, you're not great

(15:57):
sports fans. Southern California. Like, hey, look, I've been an
angel fan essentially my entire life. I moved to Southern
California when I was six years old, and I grew
up in Orange, California, where if you sat on my
roof you could see the fireworks from Disneyland with the
fireworks when the Angels a fireworks post game, you could
see it. So I like and I and I like
my my my son is like become a turn coat.

(16:19):
He likes the Dodgers because he's the same he's left handed,
he pitches, and he's the same birthday as Clayton Kershaw.
And he went to Game one of the World Series
last year and they won. And like he's all in
on there. You're never getting him, You're never getting him. Um,
so I did. I'm trying to convince him, like he look,
but he also wears twenty He likes to wear twenty seven.
Everybody likes wear twenty seven because Mike Trout. So do
you call him anakin, because I mean that's really what

(16:39):
it is. That's balance to your family. There's not really
hatred though, between angel and and Dodger fans, right, They're
just not I don't think I think Angel fans don't
like Dodger fans, but I don't think I think Dodger
fans like don't care about it. It never thought of
the Angels, and they're so concerned with consumed with winning

(17:00):
their first World Series since eighty eight, they don't really care.
But my point was that people will if people outside
of Los Angeles always say like man apathetic sports fans
because they turn on a u c L A football game,
like there's only seventy thousand people in the ninety thou
like seven thou was a lot considering, as you point out,
you went to a Galaxy game yesterday full house. Last night,

(17:21):
Angels full house. Um, you go to the Lakers and
the Clippers full house. Look, the Angels draw for three
million people every year on the year. That's why, Like
they just print money. But the Angels having a guy
who major League Baseball, two guys who major League Baseball
wants to wrap their arms around. But the fact that
he pitches and he hits, and he was he was

(17:43):
not very good in spring training, to which I'm like, ah,
here we go, another move on another bed, another Albert Pools,
another Everybody said he was gonna be great, and he's not.
And he has three home runs in three consecutive games,
and then he's got a perfect game going to the seventh.
I'm just I'm sorry, Jason. I'm one of these Angel
fans that like, I'm I'm waiting for the he's gonna

(18:05):
miss a game because he's got some tenderness in his elbow.
He's gonna miss a couple of weeks because he's got
tenant in this in his elbow. Like he's an Angel pitcher.
He's gonna get hurt, isn't he. Yeah, No, you know
I get it because you and I are the same.
Because I'm a Mets fan, right, so you know me,
I'm like, okay, as good as it's gonna be, something
bad as a right around the corner. It's just right there,
no matter how good it is, not, something bad is
right around the corner. And the Mets went to the

(18:26):
playoffs two years arow. It just went to the World
Series years ago. We're gonna go again this year. We
swept the Nationals. Right, But it's it's it's the Mets are.
The Angels are the Jets are. The White Sox are
the maybe the Clippers are probably the worst embodiment of
this because they've never been out of the second round,
but that second team in a city, they're kind of
all the same. And that's what Joeo Tony, that's that's

(18:48):
what he plays for. And I think it kind of
works because there's no there's zero pressure, and in Orange
County there's a huge not that there's not in Los Angeles,
but a huge Asian Asian fan base and kind of
awesome to watch this good this soon, I'll tell you
what baseball and and this is where you need to
have a forward thinking person in charge of growing your product.

(19:10):
Because look, as much as I love the Mets, you know,
I was happy to watch him sweep the Nationals last night.
Got to get home from the Galaxy game last night
to see extra innings and see the Mets win, and
I'm like, I'm I'm doing backflips and I want to
buy Callaway golf hats for Mickey Callaway because I'm just
so bleep and excited. But at the same time, I
understand the best thing is to get sho Hey Otani

(19:30):
on television so people can see this guy. How is
that not the Sunday night game and not just Mets
Nationals is great. Hey, here comes a guy doing something
and no matter what, even if you haven't seen him play,
you've heard people say he's doing something we haven't seen
since Babe Bruth. Whoa Babe Ruth, Babe Ruth. That's something
that cuts through the clutter. It's like, whoaha, this guy's
doing Babe Ruth type stuff. I gotta watch, I gotta
see it. And major League Baseball pitch but it but

(19:55):
it doesn't matter. You're gonna get to see him, and
you can see him on Sunday Night Baseball because now
you know every seven days is when he's gonna pitch.
And baseball misses opportunities like this all the time. Hey,
on Thursday, what's going on Thursday? Well, today game it's
the Grom and Steven Strasburg. Why is that not on
national television somewhere? Why has that not been changed? Why
is that not the free game of the day. Baseball

(20:16):
doesn't do it. And you see that the NBA in
the last years is realized there's days in the calendar
we need to own. Like the NFL. The NFL decided
to screw it. We want all of your business. We
are twelve months a year We'll take a couple of
weeks in June when you're doing something else and everybody's away.
That's fine, but we want and the NBA is realized
we're all year round. Now we go into we go

(20:36):
right from the finals, we go into the draft, into
the summer League. And now we're getting ready and now
Lebron is coming back and they're pushing, and baseball seems
content to just well, we're rolling out our product and
I need to see more. If there's a guy I
want to see, you gotta put them on TV. You
gotta find a way to put them on you can.
I would say, what what? What do I agree with
you on? It should be on Sunday Baseball? Sure. I

(20:58):
would also tell you that that to program, it's an
ESPN program, that's not a major league that's that's their selection.
And they probably and they probably have the numbers to
say that even if Otani did throw a perfect game,
the numbers would be better for for the Mets and
the Nationals. It just would in terms of eyes and viewership.
Just would I know? Perfect? Now, let's put last night,

(21:19):
which is a five five game. For most of the game,
Bryce Harper hits a home run. Okay, So people who
were tuning in the beginning, you're seeing a pretty good
games in New York market. But after a couple innings,
Otani no hits through four, no hits through five. I
gotta get to the TV. A perfect game through six,
perfect game into the seventh. That swell. You know, there's
that app that tells you when the best time is

(21:41):
to tune it, tune into a sporting event. That would
be telling I gotta get to a TV. I gotta
see what the Otani ratings spike with. And that's something
that you have to push because now you've got no
Tanni over on a national audience. Now there's more. Okay,
the next time, when is he pitch next? Next Sunday? Great,
I'm in. Is he d ching on Wednesday's the d
What when's he hitting? He's off Monday, He's gonna play
Tuesday Wednesday, Like I already know his schedule because it's

(22:04):
that interesting to see him hit, see a guy that
can pitch like him, and see a guy that hits
like eat Ro Suzuki, except he's taller with a lot
more power because he's got that same kind of looping
you know, step out of the box type swing. When
you have a mania like this, you have to capitalize
on it. You know, the Galaxy are trying to capitalize
on his lot on mania like they are, and and
the and the atmosphere last night and stubbub was incredible.

(22:25):
It's like watching Lebron James come off the bench for
your favorite team and you're just anticipating at the entire game.
When you have these moments, you guys, Okay, we gotta
feed this. Then if they're a while, okay, then we
get onto something else. Somebody else is having a big year.
There's a pitch who started tend to know there's somebody
who's you know, runs or Giancarlo Stanton's got twenty five
strikeouts in a row. Then you give me something like that.
But right now people want Otani and you gotta you

(22:47):
gotta feed that. It's it's going to be fascinating to
see how this thing evolves. Right And and there's a
lot of people who didn't understand that he can't. He can't.
He couldn't do the nest the League thing, right, You
just couldn't. You had to do the American League so
he could d H So you couldn't be in the field,
and even then it's going to be hard to see
if he wears down either as a picture or as

(23:09):
a hitter. But to get off to the start that
he's gotten off to as a hitter, and now all
of a sudden, look, his first start wasn't great as
a picture, right, but if if it's progressing this way,
it's crazy, absolutely insane. And then the and then the
juxtaposition of the Angels had the best player in baseball
in Mike trop the Angels have the best story in
baseball in Shohiotani. And then they have arguably the worst

(23:32):
contract in all of sports with Albert Pools, right, and
the best beer prices, so they throw that in there too,
the best Oh yeah, oh dude, oh yeah, best beer prices.
By it's more expensive to get a beer at the
Galaxy game last night than it is when you're in Anaheim.
I had no idea that I had no idea. That's
my dad. My dad beer prices major league ball parks
about the country. There's gonna be right, there's gotta be like, Ahi, listen,

(23:54):
we're going to Chicago. Why are we going to a
white size game? The beer is two dollars and fifties
and less. If you drink five of them, right, you
could buy four at once. Some ballparks only give you
two at once. But when's the best time? Where's that?
When's the best time to go by a beer? You
could be a millionaire and never have to work again

(24:15):
if you if you can find a way to come
with an app to people buy where the best places
to go buy a beer? Patent pending, patent pending, you
can figure out an idea you will never have to
you you would you would you would have, you would
have Steve ballmer kind of money. You could buy the Clippers,
you could buy the Angels and then get somebody in there.
It's gonna say, hey, stop guys from blowing out their arms.
The crazy thing with baseball baseball days, they have the

(24:36):
band technology stuff right, that's the ESPN bots of to
where they have they've been printing money based upon their
ability to you can watch games digitally on your phone
or watch any game anywhere, well before anybody else. So
they're probably sitting there going like this is great for
all of our other stuff, whereas you and I is
kind of the middle America sports fan, like we just

(24:58):
I want to see I'm with you. I would have
liked to have seen the ability to pivot and go
from the Mets Nationals as good as Bryce Harper is playing,
as going to watch as that is, to watch Otani
in the same on the same network. But that's not
That's not how the thing is programmed. What's your what's
your excitement level? For Otani? Right now? Isn't knowing that
disaster likely lurks around the corner? Yes, what what is
your what's your what's your excitement level? Scale? And want

(25:19):
ten being off the charts? Uh? Seven seven? It's baseball, dude,
there's a hundred. Yeah, but you haven't had much in
the last you know. I mean, Angel Troud has been amazing,
like like Mike Troud has been the best player in
baseball for the last but five years. He and I understand,
so so again, I'm just he also because he was

(25:44):
the second I feel like that I want to see
the second time around, when people have seen him as
a hitter, the second time around, when people have seen
him as a picture Like, I get this kind of
baseball thing to which you gotta take a deep breath
and let's get to the All Star break. But as
it right now. It's cool, It's awesome. I was coaching
to AU games. My son's my son's nine, but he's
playing like eleven you au whatever. I'm like, where the hell?

(26:06):
Where the hell is Cade? Where's Cade? Texting Cade's dad?
He's like, oh, we got tickets. Oh, Tani's pitching, and
then like he's given me the updates. I'm like, I
don't care any other Guard Nether Guard Fox Sports Radio,
The Dad Patrick Show, Jason Smith gottlieb in for Dad,
joining us now a longtime golf writer, author of Unplayable,

(26:27):
an inside a kind of Tiger's most tumultuous season from Augusta.
Robert Lucentage. All right, Robert, your top five favorite Imagine
Dragon songs in order? Go? Well, you know what that
that that is where we throw the lawn some lines
that we want to cross. That's one of them. Man Hey,
So Patrick, was that was? That was some interesting bands

(26:49):
up between two guys that I'm thinking to myself, as
Jim nance ever heard of Imagine Dragon? Uh? He honestly
he has because CBS in turn, they have concerts before
all these events. But yes, it was it sounded they
sounded their age discussing imagine dragons. Right, Well, yeah, yeah,

(27:10):
I was thinking to myself, having been in television, that
producer in the ear knows about imagine dragons, just saying this,
but I don't know what it's got, Just say it,
trust me, just saying it's fine. Okay, So let's let's
get let's get down to it. Uh. Obviously Patrick Reid's
got a ton of game. But is he the least
liked Masters winner ever? Well, I mean, you've he's certainly

(27:34):
in a he's certainly on a very very small little
click table there. I think next year at the champions dinner,
they'll they'll say, uh, Patrick, you, Bubba and Vija, you're
over there in the corner. But look, yeah, look he's
not for sure, he's not a he's not a popular winner.
But I'll tell you what. He may not be well liked,
but but it was a well deserved victory. Uh you know,

(27:57):
he he did. I think he showed me, he showed everyone,
he showed the world what kind of mox he's got.
And uh, you know, he's a bit of a loaner.
He's he's a cocky guy's he doesn't he doesn't really
hang with the cool kids in school. Um, he's he's
certainly got to check it pass. But at the end
of the day you add him up and he had

(28:17):
the lowest score and tip your hat to it. So
Rory McElroy uh commits the big fall pass Saturday night
and he says, oh, the pressure is all on him now.
And Reid said he fed into that, fit into that
all day on Sunday, tapped into that. Is he just
saying that it was at a really big full paw
by McElroy the night before the fourth round. Well, I

(28:38):
was thinking that maybe Connor McGregor was as advisor's uh.
I mean, you know, look, I think that Rory came
off came off the course on Saturday, uh and was
so filled with confidence. And remember you know his four
major wins. He's not the guy that grinds one out.

(29:00):
He is just in full flight and nobody can touch him.
So I think he felt that he was in that
kind of mood where in the past when he's been
like this, he's unbeatable. And unfortunately, there's just there's just
a long way to go until two fifty the following afternoon,
and there's I think there's a lot of demons and

(29:21):
you know, somebody asked me, do I think he's going
to win one? And I actually think he will because
his game is so suited to it. But I also
thought Greg Norman would never ever not win a Master's.
So you know that that turned out to be to
be not not right, and and some things are not
meant to be. But there's scar tissue with each of

(29:41):
these things brings scar tissue. And even you know, as
he's one other majors, um, you know, it's not like
he can't win a major, because we see that he has.
But the key with this place is if you just
you know, it's it's here every year, it's and and
the and the ghosts are lurking. Yeah, and then the
first t shirt, know, he parted the first hole, but
the first shot showed exactly how how how tied he was.

(30:06):
The putting, I mean the putting was terrible, honestly. I
mean he had putted so well, he had a putting
lesson from from Brad Facts and uh and and it
all looked like the planets were aligning, and all of
a suddenly, you know, he and I've noticed with him
that when he's it's not going well, he quick putts
he steps up in quick putts certainly misses it. So

(30:28):
you know, he I think he needs to really sort
of look back and and think of how he can
change his approach, because obviously that's not good enough. Uh, Robert,
how would you characterize Tiger Woods weekend? I mean, I
think it's it's fine, It's it's a at the end
of the day, we did get a little too caught

(30:49):
up in how well he played in the in Uh,
certainly at Tampa I thought he I thought he played
at Tampa as well as I've seen him since the scandal.
And and that's saying something because he won. He's won
eight times in that in that period. But he played
so beautifully under control. I liked everything that he was doing.

(31:10):
Bay Hill almost I think was was pretty good. Um.
But in the end, again you talk about being haunted.
It's been two thousand and five was his last win here.
There's never been this was the year. In fact, thirteen years.
This was the longest period in between wins for a
for a Master's champion, and h I think that there's

(31:31):
a lot of scar tissue there with Tiger too. He
came in with a lot of expectations and you know,
we saw that first t shot was horrendous on number
one on Thursday. But the thing that bothers me a
little bit is that he then pipes his opening tea
shots the next three days, uh and just you know,

(31:52):
makes bogey Bogey hits it to five feet and misses it.
So there's a lot going on with Tiger forty two.
I'm not I don't I'm not saying he's not gonna
win again, because I actually think when he has a
good week he can win. But you know, the days
of him playing a C game or a C plus
game those and winning, those days are over. These guys

(32:14):
are too good, Robert. Something Doug and I were talking
about when we started the show was, now, you know,
golf kind of has this. They have a great ensemble
cast now, whether it's you know, the Tiger comeback story,
Ricky Fowler. Jordan's speech is he the next great player
along with Rory McElroy, legendary type player and now you
have Patrick Read and instead of looking for heroes, this
guy is already made villain. You know he should go,

(32:35):
you know, say what you want to say about Rory McElroy,
if if he inspired you, and you know, if you
can wear that black hat, as we were talking about,
that's just as good as finding a hero. You find
a guy like that to people look into. I mean,
that's just as big a deal. Yeah, And I think
I think that's very right. And I think that if
you look back through the Tiger year, in many ways,
I think Tiger's the best rival. Uh. You know, he

(32:59):
had ser Joe, and he had Phil and he had Ernie.
But but the one that he really in fact, the
guy that clipped him and took number one away from
him was VJ. And VJ had no problem. We're in
the black hat. In fact, he wore a hat where
his caddy did at the President's Cup, which after you know,
going up against Tiger, which which said Tiger who question Mark,

(33:19):
And you know, VJ is just was just tough as nails.
I remember one time they played, I think it was
at Firestone, and Tiger reached out his hand as he
does tigers, very polite, and he has ed a kedd
and he reached out his hand and he to VJ,
and he said, he said good luck today, and VJ
looked at him and said title It's two, which is

(33:41):
the name of his like VJ had no problem being
the bad guy. I think Patrick Reid has no problem
being the bad guy. I think he knows that he'll
never be embraced. I mean, look, my god, I mean
he went to college at Augusta State, which is now
called I think Augusta University. But if you were out
there yesterday, there's no there was no question that the crowd,

(34:05):
the patrons of CPS likes to call them whose side
they were on. They were definitely on Rory's side. So
this wasn't the Ryder Cup where I think people just
get behind that whole Captain America thing because he's American.
This was this was about two guys and and and look,
for sure he was he was not the favorite, but
again he embraced it. And uh and and there's something

(34:27):
that he said, you know, you want to foil, don't
you In any sport you want to you want the foil.
You want the guy, you know, I mean the pistons
against the bulls. You want that uh bless thing. Ricky
has a great weekend And and people love Ricky. And look,
I went to the same school as Ricky. Everybody in
Oakland State still loves Rickey. Where's the orange because of it.

(34:51):
But are we ever going to break through? Are we
gonna Is he always going to be that guy to
which he's like the best guy to never? I know,
fourteen under wins so many other years, and sixty seven
and sixty five is nothing to sneeze at. But is
it that he was playing without any pressure and so
that he can shoot those numbers and the truth is
he doesn't have it to win it? Well? Look, I

(35:13):
mean these are these are pretty deep questions. I think
that if you look at Ricky's career, you know he
is a top five finishing type of a player. He
doesn't win a lot. I think his players win to
me as as by far the best I've ever seen him,
because he Bertie that seventeenth hold over and over, and

(35:35):
I you know that that takes some moxie. That pins
in the back right, You've got an island green at
Sawgrass and he kept hitting it there and he kept
making the putt, So I know he's got some moxie.
I think that at the end of the day, again
sort of what I was saying about Rory. The longer
it goes on, the more scar tissue there is, the

(35:56):
more you start doubting yourself. I mean, did Greg Norman
really doubt himself off in the eighties. No, he didn't
doubt himself at all. But as the years went on
and strange things happened, and Larry Miers chipped in, and
he just couldn't get it done. The longer that went,
the more pressure there was. And it's not necessarily the
external pressure, it's the internal pressure. And I think that

(36:18):
when you're over a put you you know, thinking yourself,
my god, I mean, is this ever going to happen?
That shouldn't be the mindset. And I think that one
of the things that Reid did really well was he
stayed in the moment. Yesterday he just played golf and
and look, I will say this, Ricky went and I think,
actually Ricky will win one. But and when he does,

(36:39):
it will be the most popular win on the PGA
Tour and in professional golf for decades. Follow on Twitter
at Robert Lucis. That's at Robert lou Said. It's longtime
golf writer, author of Unplayable and Inside a Kind of
Tiger's most tumultuous season From Augustin, Robert has always appreciate
your time. Thanks so much, we'll talk to you soon.
You gotta guys take care, all right, They're go, Robert.

(37:00):
We'll have more on the Masters coming up in about
fifteen minutes. But next, a huge story involving a huge
star that took place on a field like you could
walk by your local high school and see better competition
this past weekend. That's next. Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieben for
Dan Patrick, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio, The Dan
Patrick Show. Jason Smith and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan.

(37:23):
Doug on today twelve to three, As he is every day,
hear me nights here on Fox from eight to eleven
Pacific time. We got some big NFL stories actually starting
to break here. We're gonna get to coming up in
a few minutes. But speaking of football, I can't really
call it NFL because it's not quite the NFL, Doug.
But this weekend, well, well this isn't quite the Dan Patrick.
It's a guy. Well it's Dan right exactly, except well

(37:46):
I think we're doing a better job than Johnny Manzel
trying to get back into the NFL. We like we,
we'd like to think we are you know who you know? Listen,
who are we who are we to judge. Well, look,
we we've done more radio shows than one in the
last hundred and thirty two days, so I think that
I think that works out. Johnny Manzel for the first
time in thirty two days, played in a football game

(38:09):
on Saturday, played about two quarters at a high school stadium,
through a touchdown, sacked three times in a spring league game. This,
of course the Spring League, Manzel playing in it, many
other players trying to plan it to get eyeballs on
him to get back to the NFL. Manzel hoping this
leads to an NFL invitation. If not, he says he's
ready to make a commitment to the CFL. I love

(38:31):
every part of the Spring League because it's actually called
the Spring League, right like they there's no they're not
even trying to make this thing anything other than what
it is. Any s o soccer now is called the
spring Ley. If you're playing soccer now, it's your daughter
or son is playing in the spring that day. They
don't have they don't have mascots, just North southeast West.

(38:52):
I can't tell whether this is a sad story or
or the beginning of a really happy ending. And I'm
guessing probably the former, not the ladder, right, Like if
you watched and it's really hard because you know, it
reminds me of local news or local high school sports
where the poor sports director has to go out hold

(39:15):
their own camera, shoot their own stuff, and they shoot
from the field angle right, so you see like right
into your living room, you know, Jimmy Jackson catching the
ball in the end zone and scoring a touch that
you can't see the play develop, you have, no it's
just basically a handheld cam. You watch the ball in
the air that it disappears because in front of you.
That's the one the one highlight we have of Johnny

(39:37):
Manziela is rolling out to his right lofting a ball
in the end zone and some dude I've never heard
of who doesn't know the name on the back of
his shirt catching the ball and scoring a touchdown right,
that's with no one in the stands. It feels really sad.
On the other hand, like, look, I've played minor league basketball.
I played in the A B A two thousand. That
was what the league was called, the c b A,

(39:58):
although I didn't actually make a to a real game
in the cb A, the ib A, the USB l
I played in for teams in three countries, in ten
countries or wide, and like, look, this is what it
looks like. This is what like everybody's like, Oh, we
should have a we should have the minor league, should
be bigger for basketball, Like this is what you want
to make it through the minor league system, Like that's

(40:19):
what it looks like. You gotta go do it in
an empty stadium with guys you never heard of and
just gotta kind of play through everything. Um. Part of
me wants to believe that this is an incredible moment,
that he's just back on the football field, that he's
willing to do whatever it takes, unlike Colin Kaepernick to
show I just want to play football and forget the consence.
I just want to play football. And I and I

(40:40):
understand very different circumstances leve Kaepernick to being out of
football than Menzell, But still, if you want to show
us you want to play, the play on the other hand,
eighty nine yards and it just looks rinky dink. I
just don't know if this is the beginning of a
happy ending or is this is just the end of
a really really sad story to which you want to
pull Johnny aside say i'd be over. Well. Look, the

(41:03):
next future for him is gonna be in the CFL.
He will play in the Canadian Football. We think nobody
is going to sign him in the NFL. The CFL
is where he needs to go, and that's where he's
gonna wind up going. And we'll get to have fun
with him in the summer and we'll get to be
able to say, hey, look at this, and then on
the wind swept, snowy fields when we get into close
to Thanksgiving and potentially the playoffs in a Great Cup.

(41:24):
But that's really the reality for him now past the
NFL there, don't think too far. But go to the CFL.
Play a year, play two years, and show that I
can stay out of trouble and you can trust me.
And then the next Mark trustman type who gets a
job in the National Football that needs a bridge quarterback
is gonna say, Johnny, come on, I'm gonna give you
a chance. Let let's go. Let's see how it works,

(41:44):
just like Doug Flutie when he came back to Buffalo
after that long stint in the CFL. That's really the
most accurate, and I think the most realistic avenue for Johnny.
I I agree that's the most realistic. The question is
does a CFL team after seeing that tape and watching him,
does he have it anymore? Do you think the CFL
was there? I think the CFL is like there. I
just don't know, like there's some dudes up there that

(42:05):
can really play. We don't know if he even has
it to that level. Jason Smith Doug Got even for
Dan Patrick Two big NFL stories Next, Welcome inside our
two of the Dan Patrick Sharp brought to you by
Mercedes AMG Driving Performance Jason Smith. Doug gottlieb in for
Dan Get hear my show nights here on Fox Sports
Radio eight to eleven Pacific, Doug twelve to three doing

(42:27):
double duty today. We got some big NFL news to
get to. You got more golf on the way, more masters,
Brian Billick stopping buy and a half hour. He had
a couple of big quotes about one of the big stories.
We're gonna get to in the next couple of minutes.
But it's now official. Odell Beckham Jr. Has reported to
New York Giants offseason workouts. Doug gottlieb our long National

(42:49):
Nightmare is over. Odell Beckham in possibly a show of
solidarity possible to the Giant, saying just please come for
five minutes. Okay, so we have to deal with us
until listen, just please just show up for a little bit,
all right. I'm not I'm not saying you have to stay.
Just let there be video of you walking into the facility,
leaving the facility everything. I just do that so we
can move on. Odell Beckham is at least in for

(43:12):
some offseason workout. I think it's really smart. I know
it's voluntary, and that's the the voluntary mandatory for those
of US and athletics. Right you say it's voluntary, and
I know other other guys bail on it. He doesn't
have to be there. But considering how many different places
he has been seen and none of them are a
football field, right and all, and and the claims that

(43:33):
he wants to be paid above that of any wide
receiver ever and maybe at the level you know, at
at quarterback level. Um, it's it's it's the first smart
decision he's made in a long time off the field
to just get there, right. I don't know it's solidarity,
but um, there is some positive equity that's created. You're
installing a new offense, you have a new coaching, new

(43:55):
coaching staff, show up, get the playbook, shake the hands.
You know you want to run routes on air, if
you want to show yourself to be in great physical
conditions condition great, that's that's to me, is the best
way to getting what you want, whether it's with the
New York Giants or elsewhere. See, it's gonna have to
be elsewhere. He's on such a Terrell Owens Randy Moss

(44:16):
type path because no matter what, how many times do
you have to hear the Giants say, we need more
maturity out of you, We need better decision making out
of you, We need this. And yet it's punching a
hole in the wall, it's showing up on a boat,
or it's showing up in a bed holding the blunt
while the woman's got a credit card and white powder.

(44:38):
Whatever it is. Odell Beckham continually puts himself in positions
where teams go, we can't trust him. And the more
time goes on, it's okay, well, now he's got to
get it. Nope, doesn't get it. Now he's got to
get it, Nope, doesn't get it now he really has
to get it. Nope, doesn't get it. He's still that guy.
He's going to be Odell Beckham. You show up here.
He wants to get paid. He still lives on a

(45:00):
on it where he thinks someone's gonna give me twenty
million dollars a year. And while people will give him money,
no one is going to do it and say, hey,
here's a hundred and fifty million guaranteed, here's quarterback money,
because because he's too number one, you can't give a
non quarterback twenty million dollars a year, can't. It's too
hard to do. I can't put all my eggs in

(45:20):
the Odell Beckham Junior basket knowing that, Okay, I have
to manage the off the field stuff, which is fine,
which is fine if as long as the off the
field stuff doesn't rip the franchise apart. But okay, you
gotta stay healthy and you can't drop passes because that's
something you have to worry about with out all Beckham Junior.
Those two things and then twenty million dollars, I can't.

(45:41):
I can't give Sammy Watkins that kind of money. How
much just Sammy Watkins, Sammy what what did he get? Fifteen?
Fourteen million? Sixteen million? I know I can't leading wide
receiver for the l A Rant. No no, you said,
and I quote, no one's gonna give him. No one's
going to give him that kind of money. I would
agree with you. No one should give him that kind

(46:03):
of money. Okay, but if Sammy Watkins is where sixteen,
you damn right, Odell Beckham Jr. Is worth twenty Okay.
Now listen, Sammy Watkins that injury issue. He's never been
anything close to what anyone thought he would be, either
in Buffalo or in l A. And that becomes the
bar to like you kid me. I'm not signed for
a penny less, not just in a penny more. I

(46:23):
need millions more. And the best place to do so
is in New York because it's better for his brand
to be with the Giants. He does have Eli Manning.
They are going to throw him the football and yeah,
maybe they end up trading him at some point. But
the idea that no one's gonna give him sixteen sounds
great on radio, but the reality of it is the

(46:43):
market is starting to be set, and when Sammy Watkins
gets sixteen, that makes twenty million dollars possible. It doesn't
mean it happens in New York. It could happen with
a Crumby team that has a bunch of money left
over at the end of the year. But it damn
well is probably going to happen because of that market
being set by Watkinson. It could happen for one year.

(47:03):
Is not going to see the end of three years.
That nobody is going to give him three years. Look
look at look at look at me, Look at no one, Doug, Look,
no one wants to give it his Look. I would
not give him what I want. To make sure this
we we have concrete understanding of where I am in
this argument. Okay, I don't think you win big time

(47:24):
with Odell. The way he carries himself, the things he does,
his desire to always have the ball and always have attention. Okay,
I think, And that's what we've seen. The Dolphins have said,
look character above talent, Look at the guys we've jettisoned.
I don't know if it works. That's what the Patriots
are saying, whereas the Rams are like, let's just get
as many dudes as possible. And obviously the Rams to

(47:44):
this point have passed on Odell Beckham Jr. We'll see.
I'm still not sure everybody's clearing declaring the Rams geniuses,
like they still have Tavon Austin, right, and they got
a guy who is also gonna want to get paid.
They got a lot of crazy now, the Rams, and
they got a lot of I think it's more likely
not to work than will work. Okay, So I'm not
saying that I'm all in on Odell Beckham Jr. I'm
saying he's inarguably, when healthy, one of the top five

(48:07):
wide receivers in the National football Okay. And he's still
at the beginning, not at the end of his career, okay.
And he's had no knee, hip, or back or foot issue.
This is a broken ankle, right, and that that that's
what it was. So it's not like this is an interest,
not like he tours a c L. We don't know
if he'll have said the same pop in his step, right,

(48:28):
It's not like he's got a back. He's got a
back injury like a J. J. Watt to which like man,
one more hit and that could that that could be
the end. No, So he's at the beginning of his career.
He's already a top five guy. He's the most productive
guy in the first four years of his career we've
ever seen in the league when healthy and the market
is set now at the baseline being Sammy Watkins steal,

(48:49):
you don't think any of somebody's going to do it.
I I don't think I know somebody's going to give
him that kind of money. Here's why nobody will. Jason Smith,
Doug Golli been for Dan Patrick when Odell Beckham was
made available a few days ago, when the Giants throughout
the or maybe two weeks ago, when they threw out
the hey, we'll take phone calls on Odell Beckham, whether
it's whether it's as much of a hey, we want

(49:11):
to show you we're okay with moving on from you.
Who was the only team, who was the only team
that really got into them a little bit, the Ramps.
They were the only team, only team, nobody else, anybody
else could have had Odell Beckham for a first round pick.
But here's a deal. Here's a deal. Here what the
Giants wanted. They wanted a first round plus, they wanted

(49:33):
a first and second. But if you say, okay, well
the giants. Remember, you're giving it. You're giving it. You're
giving a first round plus. I mean the ask was
two first round picks. Maybe you take a first and
a second. Meanwhile, now you have to do that, but
you also then have to negotiate it. You have to
pay exactly. So now, if you think somebody's gonna pay him,
why would you would You wouldn't trade a first round
pick too. Oh, you're getting Odell Beckham. You're trading a

(49:55):
first round pick. You're getting the giants down a little
bit because the Giants are gonna go, hey, this is
what we want seeing what people come back with. But
nobody wants to come back with that because the price
is too much. Why because you have to pay Odell
Beckham junior for the long term. Nobody wants to pay
Odell Beckham for the long term. Even we're not gonna
do it. They brought in everybody. That's that's completely inaccurate,

(50:15):
based upon what even what you just said inaccurate because
it's not just it's the it's the combination of the two. Yeah,
it's the combination of the It's a first round pick
for Odell Beckham and you're giving him a lot of money.
It's a no, it's a first and a it's two
first or a first and a second, and you're giving
him both. You said, no, you're not. You're not you're
not giving that's not true that no one wants to
give them money. That great is not realistic. No one's

(50:38):
gonna do and too giants, they they throw up. Let's
see what we get. Let's see what people come back with.
I'll give you a first round pick for Odell Beckham done.
They would have said yes, and you would not give up.
But you would absolutely not the first round pick. You
have them under club can for one more year, No
you don't, and then you can franchise, can franchise him.
But look at but no one's gonna pay Look, they

(50:58):
don't want to pay him. They know him the best,
they don't want to they're going to pay him. Well,
first of all, they haven't seen him back on the field.
They haven't seen if he can function within a new
coaching staff with a new general manager. He hasn't done
it so far, well he hasn't. But he just you
just said he's showing showing up today. Okay, it's a
walking in the building today. Is nice walking today? In
the building. Is that brushes everything. That broad brushes everything else.

(51:21):
But what you're saying, you're saying is inaccurate. You're like, well,
nobody wants to pay him. If he was a free agent,
somebody would pay him. They absolutely would. Now the question
is that somebody want to pay him a first round
in a second round, and then you have to pay him.
That's an absorbinate price to which I wouldn't pay because
that's not that's not a smart investment. But the Giants,
you're not taking a first round draft pick Frodell Beckham,
absolutely not, because the best you could ever hope for

(51:42):
is a wide receiver to be Odell Beckham Jr. And
there isn't one. Christian Kirk might be the best guy
in this class, and you have no idea if you
can ever live up to that. That's why you need
a first plus first in the second so you can
get two guys that hopefully add up to his level
of production. You're Eli Manning. You sit there and go like, hey, dude,
I don't want you to move out that And yes,
they set a ridiculously high price. It's it's no different

(52:04):
than you ever use the website. Zillo oh, okay, Zillo
has the ability. It's a real estate website right where
you can list your own home and what's called the
make me move price. You just go like, hey, you
know what, you wanna pay me two million dollars from
your my house it's yours. And then they'll have what's
called the zestimate, and the z estimate is what's your
house based upon their calculations, not always terrible, totally accurate

(52:26):
what they think your house might be worse. You could
ask whatever you want for your house. It doesn't mean
it's worth it, but you say, hey, make me move,
And that's what the Giants did. Giant It's like, look,
he's a paying the ass. We have no idea about
how well he's gonna fit in, about how healthy he is,
about if he'll buy into what we want him to do.
But you know what you want to give us two
first round picks Rhodo Beckham Jr. He's yours and to that,

(52:49):
no one in their right mind would make that trade.
But that doesn't mean they don't want him, and that
doesn't mean he's not valued around the league. And if
he becomes a free agent, he'll absolutely get the money
based upon the market, and the market's not going down
for wide receivers. It only goes up. You look at
what uh you look at what Antonio Brown got last offseason.
You look at what Sammy Watkins gets this offseason. Odell

(53:09):
Beckham Jr. Will be well compensate. Do I think you'll
ever be paid the level of quarterback the mid twenties. No,
but we're talking about eighteen twenty. Absolutely, Wh'll get that money.
All right, I'll tell you realistically, what is going to
happen with Odell Beckham and number one? If there was
more interest in Odell, more teams would have called the Giants.
You hear Odell Beckham's out there, More teams would have called.
More teams were called. When Gronk was made available, more

(53:30):
teams called the Patriots, Oh, cron Cronk, Cronk. But only
one team. One team, the Rams who took on Dominan
sue Marcus Peters keep to leave. They're ready for crazy. Hey, great,
well we'll load up. What do you what do you
want for? They did one team, but it doesn't do
it if you hear, But they're okay with bringing in
crazy is what I'm saying. But look and Dominican Sioux

(53:52):
got got fourteen fifteen million dollars as a free agent
because it was a one year deal. You're comparing incomparable. No,
I'm not. I'm talking about the desire to have a player.
But again, if you just brought brush and everybody wants
Odell Beckham said, Odell Beckham Jr. Everybody wants it. You
just think there's gonna be so much interest, And it
would be a lot of interest if he's a free agent,

(54:14):
if you don't have to pay a first to the second,
or if you think someone's going to give him more
than Hey, here's one, here's two years on one in
an option. We'll give you want forty million, We'll give
you a tour, will give you seventeen eighteen million for
one year, and then that second year is never gonna happen.
He's never gonna find a home. He's never gonna be
someone that gets a long term contract. Levian Bell can't
get it. He's the best running back in the NFL

(54:34):
by far, but there's so much concern over him that
the Steelers keep franchising him. You think he's gonna get
a lot of money someplace else. There would have been more. Hey,
we'll take we'll take him from you again, because you're
you're you're acting like he's a free agent and he's not.
Only one team will get these guys. Only one team
will That's that's not that's not true. Don't you don't

(54:55):
think you can play for more than one team? You
don't You don't think that the San Francists forty nine
that teams with a ton of of kaprim. You don't
think that the Cleveland Browns who would die for a
star wide receiver. There's plenty of guys, but you have
to find the right mix of a team that has
salary cap room and then has draft picks and that
has the desire for him. Do I think that all
thirty two teams will want him? No, but you're you're

(55:18):
crazy if you don't think all thirty two teams want
his talent and the ideas what is the price? We
all have a value, kay, and his value is probably
in the eight team to twenty for three years, guaranteed
sort of deal. That's what it's gonna end up being.
The question is do you want to pay a first
round and a second round pick now or do you
want to wait and to see if he hits the
open market, which is not likely to happen because they

(55:40):
have the right to franchise tag him. That's the way
the sport works, right, So if that's the case, then
you try to make a deal for him, because only
one team is going to get him. You can be
one of eight. Oh I'd love to get Odo back.
What's the reality you're gonna get him? One team is
going to so hey, let's be that team. Let's be
that team and go out and make a trade and
go get this guy. Let's go get him. If we
really want on him, there would have been more talks,

(56:01):
more substantial, More teams would have been on kicking the
tires if they really wanted him. But nobody wants to
pay him long term. Nobody will. I also think there's
the look, all these general managers do what they've done
at other places. Okay, and you look at Dave Gettleman.
He comes from the Carolina Panthers, right, and what did
the Carolina Panthers do. They had a superstar wide receiver

(56:22):
and Steve Smith, and they had no problem letting him
walk out the door and going to the Baltimore Ravens. Hey,
Steve Smith was still productive in his last couple of
years with the Baltimore Ravens, but the Carolina Panthers went
to the Super Bowl without him. I think that's what
Dave Gentleman thinks. But he has not gotten to this
point an offer that has commensurate with the value of
Odell Beckham Jr. Based upon any based on anybody's expectations. Right,

(56:45):
John Dorsey's doing the same thing in Kansas City. What
they do last year, They drafted the best thrower who
wasn't refined, They had an older quarterback, and Alex Smith
played for a year. Lets the lays them to the playoffs,
they lose, they get rid of Alex Smith and now
and now it's Pat Mahomes job. That's what they're going
him to do. Guys, do what they've done before. I
don't think this is the end of the Odell Beckham Jr.
In terms of dangling him out. There's a trade. I

(57:06):
just think they haven't gotten the right offer yet from
the right team that has the right amount of cap
space to sign him to that deal. But if Sammy
Watkins can get sixteen million guaranteed sixteen million a year
for three years, of course Odell Beckham Jr. Can get
eighteen to twenty because he is five times the player
and has been more healthy and more productive than Sammy
Watkins in the exact same amount of time in the league.

(57:29):
You also really don't like Sammy Watkins. No, I don't
just I really don't like the deal. I mean, I
think we've seen Sammy Watkins enough to know who he is.
He wasn't he couldn't be a number one in Buffalo,
couldn't stay healthy. He wasn't a number one with the Rams.
But he was great a Clemson, of course he was.
It's a great It was great in the in the
in the in the workouts. The road ahead is bound

(57:49):
to take some unexpected turns. Farmers Insurance can help you
understand your coverage options with our practical knowledge gained for
more than ninety years of experience. We know a thing
or two because we've seen a thing or two. Find
an agent at Farmers dot Com. Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb
in for Dan Patrick Twitter at how About a Fresca
Doug at Gottlieb Show. We got more NFL with Brian
Billett coming up in a few minutes. But straight ahead,

(58:11):
are you buying on the hottest team in the NBA,
potentially getting to the NBA Finals. That's next. Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Radio, The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Doug
Gottlieb in for Dan. Catch my show nights here on
Fox Sports Radio eight to eleven Pacific time eleven and two.
East Coast Doug twelve to three Pacific Today, three to six.

(58:34):
See him on Colin Coward later on this morning doing
his show, gradually getting closer and closer to his house
as he comes to the studios in Sherman Oaks than
he does. Colin. You get a little bit more south
if you do something else, segundo, you know, and get
all the way down. If you stopping side to show Heyo,
Tony all on your way home today, that's the plan. That,
that's the plan. We're back tomorrow. More Radio, More Radio.

(58:56):
Brilliant Traggers Meet Mattes tournament has begun all along on
the Trager Grills Instagram page. To stay up to date
on the matchups didn't post in time to make it
into a bracket, follow along and post your meat creations
all month long using the hashtag meat madness. That's meat
madness for a chance to win some major prizes. Well,
speaking of a chance to win some major prizes. Oh,

(59:18):
by the way, in a big action pack weekend, we
have the matches we're talking about Otani Runda Rousy Um.
The Philadelphia seventy six are pretty good. They win their
fo in a row on Saturday. They hold off the
Cavaliers and Lebron James earlier in the week thirty point lead.
They're able to hold on while Lebron misses a couple

(59:40):
of free throws. They now sit in the third spot
in the Eastern Conference. And oh, by the way, Ben
Simmons was asked over the weekend, who's the rookie of
the year, and he said me one per cent. This
has been a huge run late in the season. Not
a lot of attention being paid because we're looking at
the Cavaliers and what's going on Steph Curry and the
Warriors and the Rockets and the problems in Oklahoma City,
and they're playing the bottom of the league and they

(01:00:02):
beat they beat the Mavericks. Look that there are some
wins over playoff teams like the Timberwolves, potentially like the Nuggets.
But for the most part, I mean, the MAVs are
trying to lose. You know, the next game is against
tomorrow against the Hawks are trying to lose. It's one
of the things that's really hard to take seriously anybody's
even the fifty wins, because this is the worst episode

(01:00:22):
of tanking we've ever seen in the NBA. It's remarkable
how these teams are tanking and getting away with it.
You just like, look at the fourth quarter. Who the
teams are putting on the floor in the fourth quartering
like what a choke um that said. Looked at the
win over the cast Calves weren't didn't have their full roster,
but still and they don't have they haven't had embid
and they've been winning these games. Simmons is the Newcomer

(01:00:44):
of the Year. He's a red shirt rookie, Like, don't
let's not underestimate the fact that he's he was with
an NBA team on the NBA roster, working out um
getting ready for an entire year. He basically red shirted
last year with injury and then getting getting so I mean,
I I wouldn't vote him Rookie of the Year. I

(01:01:04):
would vote him Newcoming the Year. But he has been
the best first year player in the NBA by by
a good amount. Well, lots of the sixers do they
draft a guy that's not healthy so he can sit
around for a little bit and then he comes in
and he plays, whether it's Simmons or and Beat or
Marquel Fults things. He got hurt that he got hurt afterwards, right,
he hurt after he was drafted looking and I said,
I said on on Dan Show back when he was
in college and his one year that he was and

(01:01:27):
I there's no disrespect to Kevin Durant. He was the
best one and done we've had in the one and
done era. It's basketball is easy to him. It's just
he shooting is hard. But you don't have to be.
Considering his size, his other skills. He's able to get
away with it in the regular season without a jump shot.
I mean, you don't even look at taking a jump shot. Um.

(01:01:47):
I don't think that continues in the playoffs. In the playoffs,
you can be more physical with the ball handler. In
the playoffs, you at some point have to make a
jump shot. But to this point he has not had.
He doesn't have to make a jump shot. I think
he's still shoot him with the wrong hand. Um because
he does everything around the basket with his right hand,
even though he's left handed. He shoot jump shots with
left hand, he doesn't shoot it well, like why not
shoot right handed? And you got to do that in

(01:02:07):
the off season. But he's amazing and this is a
really talented team. But if you saw, if you saw
that calvs. Game, though it was a win, it was
here's the team that doesn't know how to play with
the lead. Here's the team that still kind of plays
the same way when they're playing well as when they're
playing poorly. And I know they've won fourteen a row
and people in Philadelphia are telling Calherd to stick it

(01:02:29):
where the sun don't shine because he didn't think they'd
hit the overunder of which I think was forty two. Uh.
And they've of course demolished that. It's a really good story,
really talented team, and I gonna win the playoffs, but
it's still really fun to watch. Well, how far can
they go? You're talking about the Eastern Conference now that
is very limited. You have a lot of injuries, a
lot of situations where suddenly now the Celtics aren't the
team they were with no Kyrie Irving. The Raptors are

(01:02:51):
still the Raptors. Better, but it's still the Raptors. And
there's a lot of belief you around the league, you know,
you talk to insiders, go, yeah, you know the Raptors, Boy,
they're really good. But I don't know that are a
playoff team and so there a championship not a championship
caliber team. Can you see them in the Eastern Conference finals,
because that's why I look at it right now. Could
I see them there? Yeah, but let's see their path

(01:03:12):
in order to get there. Like, they're not beating the
Calves in the playoffs. I don't think they probably don't
think they beat the Raptors just because the Raptors have
been there before. Actually, my fear, my fear for the
seventies six years, is that the Calves have some sort
of injury or the Calves get beat before they play
them or whatever, and that they actually get somehow to
the NBA Finals and becomes too much too soon. That's

(01:03:33):
what happened to Oklahoma City. Remember, like Oklahoma City skipped
a couple of steps, gets into the NBA Finals against
the Heat and they lose what I think it's four
games to one. They get beat by the heat and
the finals and James Harden staying out all night in Miami,
and that's one of the reasons they had no problem
trading him, and they never the expectations were raised above
where they should. You gotta it's better off. You're better
off when you take steps. Like for them, they'd probably

(01:03:56):
be best to lose in the conference semifinals and then
lose next year in the Conference finals and then losing
the NBA Finals, so that they're still kind of this hunger,
this desire to take the next step. Generally, and obviously
Lebron has skip steps and everywhere he's gone last seven years,
they've gone to the NBA Finals. But generally that's been
the way it works in in the NBA. You look

(01:04:16):
at all the historic runs, whether it was the Celtics
or the Pistons, the Lakers or Trailblazers or the Rockets
or whatever like a lot of those teams have come
up short and that's allowed them to be hungry and
not skip steps. For the seventy six ers, I almost
hope that that they get to like the Conference semis
and losing like a bitter seven game series to what

(01:04:39):
I think talent wise would be an inferior foe. Then
they continue to retool and take the next step over time.
But then we don't get you l embiad Instagram posts.
You don't get him. You know, does he want to
date rhon Iss? He not? As she's single? Is she not?
You know? We lose that. We lose Mark el Fulter
lose the daily story of boy Mark hell fold stinks,
despite the fact that in twelve minutes he had fifteen
points and eight assists and four rebounds. I I don't think,

(01:05:00):
like if we want to, and I know you're being
sarcastic there, I don't like, let's let's make sure that
we get the Mark hell Folts story correct. Mark el
Folts was the best guard in this draft, okay, And
one of the things he did better than other guards
in the draft was, here's a very good shooter, shotmaker,
and so, all of a sudden, the first time we
see him, he's adjusting and his shot is funky, and

(01:05:22):
it's got a hitch in it, and he's changed his
release point, like whooa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa. So too,
no one in basketball circles thought, all of a sudden
he sucked it was what did you do to mark
el Folts shot? Because there was nothing really wrong with it?
Before you fix something that really didn't need to be fixed,
was it injury was in his head? And now all
of a sudden, like you feel like Marco Folts is

(01:05:42):
a real player, Like they got guys that are real Embad.
I would still count on Simmons to be the better
player because his body hasn't broken down. But Embat is
like a once in a generation talent man. And yeah,
he's fun on Instagram. He's got a great person nony. Now,
I don't know if Embat knows how to win games,
like I feel like embiads he got a little lad
of de vatch to him right where he's just like

(01:06:03):
a fourth quarter of a game seven to catch the
ball and be open for three and shoot it when like, hey, dude,
you're the biggest most athletic big guy we've seen. You know,
play to win instead of play to have fun and
play to take the shot that's easier for you to take.
But like you got Folds, you got Simmons, you get
him beat, You've got cap space with j J coming

(01:06:25):
off the books. Although JJ has been really good for them.
It's there, without any question, the team with the brightest future,
the brightest upside. I just I fear for them too much,
too soon, which we have seen, and that raises the
level of expectations above the level of competence in the
very near future. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
Twitter at how about a fresca at Gottlieb's show. There

(01:06:48):
it is your hottest team in the NBA, four teen
in a row, fifty winds now in the Eastern Conference.
We have more NBA on the way, but some big
NFL stories. We talked about Odell Beckham Jr. Few minutes
ago physically and finally reporting to the Giants for offseason workouts.
Big deal with Rob Gronkowski going on in New England.
Maybe now we know what's behind the Gronk Belichick potential feud.

(01:07:12):
Joining us now on the hotline. NFL Network analyst super
Bowl Champion Brian Billick. Brian, good morning, what's happening? Good
morning to you, Thank you, and hey, I want to
sound glad we actually have actual video and confirmation that
Odell Beckham Jr. Is in Giants facilities. How much of
this is okay? We're on the same page, or is
this just hey, let's have a show for television for

(01:07:34):
a little bit so we can have this story hit
the back burner. Well, I'll probably someplace in between. I mean,
in in in today's NFL. This is a kind of
standard operating procedure, is it not? In terms of you know,
I grew up in a league where it was always
there's a time for pay, and there's a time for play,
and right now at the time for pay. So you

(01:07:54):
work around all the other things. Teams beginning to start
their spring workouts, you're getting ready for the rapp How
it affects your draft positioning players that are are lobbying
either in free agency or they want a new contract,
they want to be franchised, they don't want to be franchise.
It's just kind of part and parcel. And it's okay,
he's in the facility. That's great. Uh. And I imagine

(01:08:15):
at some point from coach Shermer, whether he gets on
the field or not, we're going to hear the some
you know, the familiar refrain of well, I can only
deal with the guys that are here. That's my concern. Um,
what what's his value? What's his value? In the league. Well,
he's a he's a dominant one of the dominant receivers
in the league. And so obviously there is a great

(01:08:35):
deal of value. Now there is there's baggage that comes
with it, and I hate to label it as even baggage.
There's a drama that comes with it, and and and
that has to be factored in. I mean, that is
a factor. It's a risk reward, you know. I always
love what Mike Tomlin used to say, I'll tolerate you
until I can replace you, you know. And how much

(01:08:56):
you're going to tolerate, uh from a player in some
of the things that they do based on their abilities.
You're going to do that to a degree, but at
some point it becomes dysfunctional and it's just not worth it.
The coach Rob Gronkowski in the News a story you
were quoted on here. Uh, maybe we get a little
bit of insight into what's going on with Rob Gronkowski
in New England that potentially maybe some of the bad

(01:09:18):
blood between the two sides. Gronk working out at TV twelve,
continuing his mission with Alex Guerrero, and as we know,
over the course of the last few months, Bill Belichick
not happy with Tom Brady's personal trainer, and according to reports,
there was one point last season where Belichick yelled at
Gronk in front of the players for being a TV
twelve client. Is this something that really can just push

(01:09:40):
these sides apart? And Gronk would say, listen, I'm done
with Belichick's act here. Yeah, I can't at some point.
And this is always a fine line the club has
to walk. You know, we're in the age of individual
personal trainers. Every player has their own individual personal guru.
And uh, this was really beginning when when I was
back in the league, obviously as a head coach, and

(01:10:01):
it was something that you knew you were going to
have to address. Yes, you'd like to keep it more uniform,
you want to keep it in the building. You're putting
a lot on your weight and conditioning and training staff
when you bring in all these outside guys. But in
today's game, everybody has one of those guys. And more
and more clubs are having to embrace it, even to
the point where I allowed it in the building because
it was okay. Either in the off season, we we

(01:10:24):
don't uh, you know, associate with it. We don't want
the players to do that, they go and do their
personal workouts away from the building, or we let it
into the building where we can at least monitor it
and see what's going on. Now. The problem is if
everybody brings their own personal guy in. You know, you've
got you've got eighty different workout googles all over the place.
It's like, I want to bring in my own personal

(01:10:45):
quarterback mentor well, you know, the offensive coordinator and your
quarterback coach. You're kind of going like, you know what,
Like what am I chopped liver? And that's a lot
of voices. So it's something that every coach has to
deal with. Obviously, when you're talking about Robin ron cow Ski,
you're talking about Tom Brady, high profile players in in
the highest profile organization in the National Football League. Bill

(01:11:07):
Belichick has obviously earned as the chops to say, look,
this is the way we're gonna do things. Build a
smart coach. He embraces these things to a degree. But
you know, if indeed, at some point he has to
draw the line in the sand and say you know,
or it may very well be they just don't agree
with the workout regiment. And that's a fair observation as well,
what are they doing? You know they they now you

(01:11:28):
have those two early picks now, and yet they've they've
jettisoned uh several talented players. Some have signed elsewhere. But
for a team that last year seemed to get out
of the early draft business and went the the hey
let's get a guy even for a year or two
years that we know, what do you think they're doing
with these early picks? Well, you know, Bill Belchick, the

(01:11:50):
classic for just like you say, they tend to roll back,
roll back, pick up other picks. They either have someone
specifically in mind that they're going after and targeting, or
it is okay, we've got the early picked. But now
we'll get into the draft and we'll keep parlaying. Someone
will want to pick. They'll give us more will bank
extra two's, extra threes, extra four's where we tend to

(01:12:11):
like to operate, will bank some for two thousand nineteen,
two thousand twenty, uh and and do what we always do.
So you know they've got a track record either way.
We'll see coach when it comes to the draft. As
we all all now, we're getting ready and seeing every
day someone stock is high, someone stock is down. Donald's
going number one. No, it's Josh Allen. The one consistent

(01:12:33):
storyline the last week or so has been Josh Rosen.
Jim Mora wasn't the biggest fan of him, didn't say
the greatest things about his quarterback, and potentially now there's
concerned about Josh Rosen. Are you buying that he could
be the guy that falls down of the ladder a
little bit? Well, all these guys, there's no reason any
of these guys, whether it's Donald's w it's Rosen, Allen Jackson,

(01:12:56):
makes any of them and and between. Now we're gonna
hear it's a little bit like liar poker when you
talk to coaches and personnel people, right, it's it's you're
only going to get a version of the truth because
they're all trying to hide what their intentions are. There's
no reason each of these kids shouldn't be a good,
solid NFL quarterback. By the same token, there's no reason
to Vinch Young, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Matt Leiner and

(01:13:18):
Mine Leaf shouldn't have been good NFL quarterbacks. So it's
gonna be the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
To me, Josh Rosen. The talent is obvious. I've been
making the analogy to me. He's Jay Cutler, now, you know,
and they're always asking us to make comparison. And now
some people, oh, you're killing Jay cut would have it. Now,
Jay Cutler is close to four thousand yard passer and
a given year close to thirty touchdowns. That you know

(01:13:41):
that that's saying this guy can be pretty good. It's
also a guy that you know has not quite gotten
over that hump and been on a really winning team
and been that leader quarterback that you wanted. So you know,
you can draw whatever you conclusion you want from it.
He's got the talent, there's no question. His personality, his demeanor,
You're really not going to know until you get him. Um.
But but that's that's the price you pay right now

(01:14:02):
because you take these quarterbacks in the first round, any
of these guys, it's a fifty fifty craft shoot. Um.
The l a Rams have gone out and added some
unique personalities with a ton of what I guess the
fan would call it talent. Right to leave uh, Marcus
Peters and down consue obviously making a trade for a

(01:14:22):
talented Brandon Cooks A talented wide receiver. Your thought on
the relationship of the talent they have, uh in kind
of comparison to some of the character issues or leadership
issues that team may have in the near future. Well,
that's the challenge. Obviously, the talent is there. Um, you know,
I was I was around a group of Baltimore that

(01:14:43):
had had some characters. But but as I always said,
they had some character too. And so the organization obviously
with coach Phillips is the defensive coordinator kind of working
with these guys. The key is where is your veteran
leadership come from? If you have the guys could absorb
the that can keep them on task, you know you've
got a young head coach, it's gonna have to lean

(01:15:04):
on that veteran leadership obviously, particularly times get tough. They're
clearly talented and building up on defense to go with
what they think is obviously a good offense and their
franchise quarterback uh in Jared Goff. So yeah, they feel
like they're building a championship team. But those and we
just talked about a team like the New England Patriots,

(01:15:25):
what that have won? How many Super Bowls? Bringing in
veterans at the right time in their career at the
right price that provides specific role. All those guys, if
they buy into the role that Wade Phillips has for them,
then they can be pretty good. Now they're coming in
and they think their role is different, and it transpires
during the course of the season and they're not quite

(01:15:46):
being used that same way, then all of a sudden
that character, uh that you're talking about tends to become
an issue. We talked a little bit of the draft.
Speaking of the draft, use the promo code draft at
ex tech pads dot com. It's ex tech pads dot
com for ten percent off your shoulder pad order. Coach,
you're doing a lot of work with z Tech shoulder Pads. Yeah,
this is I'm very proud of this company. This is

(01:16:08):
one of those things where you know what you're just
reading in the news. Again, the league is taking the
next step to take the head out of the game,
and rightfully so. All the things we're doing with the
concussion protocols and and the rules to protect the players,
well that puts a higher premium on shoulder pads, and
shoulder pads haven't changed in forty years until now. These
x tech pads that's exactly what they are. That the

(01:16:28):
next iteration in pad. They've got the patent of x
r D Military grade foam. Uh there in twenty nine
two NFL clubs, colleges, a hundred fifty high schools. You're
gonna see it all you talked. We just talked about
the quarterbacks, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen. They're in x
tech Pads. Teams like Michigan, U c l A, Notre Dame,
Ohio State. This is the new way of pads and

(01:16:48):
and people. If you've got young people, uh and, and
you're gonna play football, you've got to protect them. You
can go to x tech Pads. You can go to
x there at x tech Pads on Instagram and find
out about the next level of protection for our players.
Use the promo code draft go to ex tech pads
dot com as well off your shoulder pad order. Coaches

(01:17:09):
always appreciate it. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon.
That's great. All right, There goes Brian Billick, NFL Network
Super Bowl Champion Analysts. We have some more NFL on
the way, but straight ahead, the reality for Tiger Woods
coming off of the Masters. Jason Smith, Doug gottlieb In
for Dan Patrick. This is Fox Fox Sports Radio The

(01:17:31):
Dan Patrick Show. Jason Smith and Doug gottlieb In for Dan.
My show nights here on Fox Sports Radio eight to
eleven Pacific, eleven to two East Coast, Doug twelve to
three doing double duty doing his show today twelve three Pacific,
three to six on the East Coast. Today's show brought
to you by Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. Now, we've been

(01:17:53):
talking a lot of Masters this morning here. Robert Lucits
joined us a little bit ago to talk about the
big win by Patrick Reid. Who oh, by the w A,
It's gonna be on the show tomorrow right here with us,
you and I and for Danny, gonna talk to the
Masters champion, uh tomorrow, I believe seven thirty uh Pacific time,
ten thirty East Coast time. So we got Patrick read tomorrow.
But really, whenever we talk about the Masters, story one

(01:18:16):
as always Tiger Woods and Tiger didn't play very well
this weekend. His irons really let him down, which you know,
his caddy, who was quoted many times after Tiger's round
on Sunday said, boy, that really surprised me. His irons
you know, normally the best part of his game that's
always dependable, that wasn't there for him. But he hit
the ball well, he put it well, but his irons
just really shocked him. Tiger says he's ready for a

(01:18:38):
nice long break after the Masters, gonna get going back again.
He says, normally I take a few weeks off, then
I get going, get ready and get ready for the
next big tournaments after that. But to me, Doug, this
is why Tiger Woods is not going to be able
to win again. And if he wins one more tournament,
one more major, Jack Nicholas like six with the checkered pants, Hey,

(01:18:59):
I've won in my career. That's really the ceiling because
you look at all the injury he's had. He's had
his shoulder, is that a knee. He's had a lot
of things go wrong. He's had a hip, his back.
He's never going to be able to play enough golf
to have his game be sharp enough where he can
compete at a high level consistently. It was okay earlier

(01:19:20):
in his career when he was younger and he was healthier,
but now you start having it back. Injuries just don't
go away. Those problems just don't go away. If he's
still going to beat Tiger Wood, I'm gonna play a
couple of turns, MNA take off for a while, come back.
His game is never going to be sharp enough. And
his best hope is a hey, lightning in the bottle,
Let me turn back time and and get one weekend
where everything is great for me and all the other

(01:19:41):
guys who are all much better now than they were
the first time Tiger was around, because the first time
field is much better because Tiger's first time around, all
the best guys were ending, Faldo and Norman, and the
guys that came up VJ and Goosen and Els were
not nearly the young players they are now. He's got
a hope that that's one weekend in time, one time
where I get to, you know, for for two days,

(01:20:03):
I can shoot three under and four under and everybody
else can fall back, and I can get one more major.
If I thought physically he could stand up, I would
think absolutely he could do it. But I just don't
see that from him over the long because he hasn't
been healthy in ten years and he's forty two now
and he's still trying to come back healthy intel in
ten years. Um, I mean like he won more in thirteen.

(01:20:24):
He won more tournaments than anybody in golf. He just
didn't win any majors. So it's not ten years he
hasn't been healthy. Um. Look, I think he's gonna win
multiple majors. I think this is all the all part,
all part of the rehab process. Um, he's a it's
it's golf is really really hard. I still believe that
golf is as much mental as it is physical, and

(01:20:45):
there's some mental limitations to what he's doing in terms
of coming back. But once as he starts to get
back and get sound, you put him on a tea box,
you know, with with some other competitors around him in
the lead after fifty four holes, and many of them
are going to wilt. You know. They all say, hey,
I'm ready for Tiger. I can stand up to Tiger.

(01:21:07):
Rory McElroy thought the pressure was on Patrick Reed. No,
it was it was on Rory McElroy. They all believe
that they can handle the pressure of playing with Tiger
because they've seen Tiger recently not be the same time. Look,
he's never going to be the player of old and
we're never good. None of us are ever going to
be in our forties what we were athletically in our twenties. Um,

(01:21:28):
but golf is a sport to which I don't want
to say there is there is really no uh lifespan,
but dude, there is a much longer lifespan. He's in
incredible shape and yeah, that's me depending on his back
to hold up. But there's a reason that he's playing
in so many tournaments, not just to get sharp. It's

(01:21:48):
because he does, in fact feel great. This surgery should
have been done earlier. It does work. Medical technology is amazing.
And look, I think he's gonna I don't think he'll
ever be back, but I don't ever think he'll be
you know, army golf left right, and then retire the
way he's been the past couple of years. I think
it's the real deal. But I just think this is

(01:22:08):
part of the rehab process. Look at his injuries. Doug.
You tell you said in two thousand thirteen did have
a good season, but you go back, not good, great,
it didn't have a great scene, Okay, torn Achilles Tenant
in two thousand eight, torn a c l in two
thousand and seven, two thousand eleven m c L spraying
two thousand eight, double stress fracture in his tibia two
thousand thirteen, did have an elbow injury two thousand fourteen,

(01:22:29):
pinched nerve in his back two thousand fifteen, another back surgery. Oh,
by the way, two thousand and two thousand twelve, more
Achilles injuries. He's prone to these. He's having these. Doesn't
mean he can't still play well, but can he play
well enough? Over? Of course? Can you trust it suddenly
now all of a sudden he's healthy. This guy's been
banged up for for a decade now and and trying
to fight through different things. I can't just think suddenly,

(01:22:50):
when you're forty two, it's suddenly going to get better
for you and go and now I'm fine. Think I look,
I I think that's fair. It's obviously fair to calm
injury prone. In terms of the act. I think they
solve the back, and I do think everything is kind
of somehow. It's it's related, right, like in the in
your body. When one thing's off, everything gets off and
something else might get hurt. But I just I tend

(01:23:12):
to believe that he's going to get it back. He's
going to win. And one of the reasons is not
just his mental game, but the mental game of others.
Bill Wilt when he's in the lead. After fifty four,
Doug Gottlieb, Jason Smith in for Dan Patrick. Coming up next,
a new Mania sweeping across Major League Baseball. This is
the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio.

(01:23:33):
It is the Dan Patrick Show. Jason Smith and Doug
Gottlieb in for Dan Today. Catch my show at night
eight to eleven Pacific, eleven to two Eastern Doug, of course,
twelve to three Pacific, three to six on the East Coast,
doing double duty today. We're in for Dan today and
for Dan again tomorrow. And as we said a few

(01:23:53):
minutes ago, Patrick Reid gonna join us tomorrow. You are
Masters Champion at seven thirty s Pacific time, ten thirty
East Coast. So I got Patrick Reid coming up tomorrow,
talked a lot of golf, got some more golf coming
up in a few minutes, because look, simply, Patrick Reid
should wind up presenting himself as the villain on the
p g A tour. Look, we saw his story. It's

(01:24:17):
been an incredible story. But as you see, trying to
turn him into a warm and fuzzy story is not
something that CBS PGA Tour was able to do. He's
just comes across as someone that does things his own ways,
not very likable. You had Rory McElroy call him out
on Saturday Night used that as motivation. He's had some

(01:24:38):
issues throughout his career, getting dropped from teams, issues about
not scoring correctly when he's at practice, when he was
playing earlier in his career. Look, he's had that kind
of career and to turn him into a villain would
be the right move. Because the PGA Tour has a
tough time finding heroes, why not have a villain it

(01:24:59):
works out well. Of that and more coming up in
a few minutes. But before we get to Otani Mania,
I gotta tell you about the funniest thing that happened
a few minutes ago with Doug Gotlieb. I have never
now Doug, I don't. I've not seen you talk today
a lot about how you've played in in many different
basketball leagues throughout your career, many different player You played
in Europe, you played Unit Stade, you played everywhere, right,

(01:25:21):
I have not seen your first step in a few years.
But your first step. About five minutes ago when Vito
came in. Yes, our technical wizard who does all the
great opens and sounds, you're here here on Fox Sports Radio,
comes into the studio and says, Doug, your car is
getting towed. And he said what he is? Yeah, ten minutes,
I'm just right there. Your car is getting towed. You

(01:25:43):
you got up out of your chair and you we'll
go stop him. And then Vino had to say, oh, no,
I'm just kidd man. It's all good. And the blood
that drained from your face, but man, your first step
out of the chair, look, that was something. But here's
the problem. Okay, this is a lot like the Masters
that that we talked about with Robert Lucettis joined us

(01:26:03):
earlier in the show and he was talking about the
scar tissue that so many of these guys that Rory
McElroy clearly has. We saw him on the first hole,
you know, you know, spray a drive past the scoreboard
to the right like way way like something I would
do on the first heat Augusta is what Roy mackawood did.
And that talked about how Tiger Woods there's still some
scar tissue there, not just in his body, as you

(01:26:25):
pointed out, because his body is broken down over the years,
but he hadn't one. He hadn't one Augustus Ins two
thousand five, and some of that scar tissue comes up.
I have scar tissue with the Whole Foods parking lot.
We have our own park, we have our own parking
structure here at Fox Sports Radio. I I don't know,
like I I hope the the guys that worked the

(01:26:46):
parking garage understand that. I believe our bosses pay good
money so that we can park there, but they treat
us like like we're third rate. Third rate, absolutely right
that you know you you cannot park here. You can
like there's so many places you can't park. So there's
a Whole Foods which is a hop, skip and a
jump from here, and they have the apparently a strict

(01:27:07):
one hour policy. It's a very small carking lot for
a supermarket, and apparently the these these spots are like gold.
Because my car has been towed before. And as you know,
when you do at three hour radio show, like the
last thing you like, you think like you get done,
I'm gonna go grab some by deed hop in my car.
Then a fight traffic to get home. The last thing
you want to do is like, wait, wait did I

(01:27:28):
park here? I thought I parked here, parked here? I
thought I parked here? Like yeah, some guy comes up, yeah,
and I think they told your car, right. So the
fact that Vito would play such a cruel joke, and
then the other part to it, which really sells it
is he does not really that nice. He's one of
those guys that acts like he's a nice guy, but
he's not really nice guy. I do think he's the
type of guy who would see my car getting told
said hey, that's maybe Doug scar and instead of texting

(01:27:50):
me or stopping them, he'd probably let it happen because
it make great make great radio. See. I like how
your first thought was go stop Avengers assemble, go stop
from Isn't that supposed to be your reaction, right? Like
jump on the car, dive on the car, Like I
want to see if there's a car, my car going
down the street, I want to see his body prone

(01:28:11):
across you know, across the the front of it, across
the hood. You know, if you're gonna move, it's to
me over my dead body. And they're like, fine, we'll
move it over your dead body. You got out of
the chair. Did you ever get out of the chair
that fat like when you were going back into a game. No,
that's I'm ready. I'm ready because you were up out
like I'm ready to boom you. You were all Will

(01:28:32):
Ferrell ready, I'm ready to go. If I had tearaway sweats,
had tearaway I had a funny conversation with my daughter
about tearaway sweats by the way, the other day. Why
why weren't Tara, Why did they not become a thing
for like, Like, isn't that perfect Southern California gear? Tearaway sweats? Really?
That's why, like the hoodie is a is the zip
up hoodie is a perfect California accouterment because you know,

(01:28:57):
we have June gloom. It's not junior, I understand it.
Where it's over class in the morning, overcast in the morning,
burns off, and then it's beautiful all the rest of
the day. Right, It's a place which you have to
have a sweatshirt in the morning and then the afternoon
is usually gorgeous. It's like lake weather. Why why hasn't
that why tear away sweats of the coolest thing in sports,
they are. They're the coolest thing. In basketball. Tearaway sweats

(01:29:18):
have always been the envy of every athlete anywhere because
he got sweats. They look pretty cool and then when
you don't want to sweatch, you just grab him and
rip them off. I love them, but for some reason
they never really took off in mainstream America. Well, you see,
I I would I would go through many would be
too expensive for me because I would want to do
it just like you know, the athletes do what I
would want to. If I'm walking, boy, I'm hot, I

(01:29:39):
would just rip the sweats off and drop them on
the ground like the players do. I've done dropping on
the ground. I can't go back and pick them up,
and nobody picks him up for you button them up
and then put them in the backpack. That that's the
that you lose. The cool factor of it kind of
goes away. Very strong point you make is that uh,
we just as people are, were just too lazy as
a culture. Right. It's like, you know, there's no custodian

(01:30:00):
in like the difference between an American factory and a
Japanese factory is it costs more? Why because you have
custodial services, and you know you're also members of the union,
so you can't fire anybody whatever. But in in Japan
they don't need custodians because everybody cleans up their own workspace.
That's not us here case in points star athletes making
tens of millions of dollars, they tell you where they

(01:30:21):
tear away their sweats, or even high school kids. You
just drop them and then you know some scrub right
who never plays. It's their job. If it's not the
manager's job becomes scurry and pick up their sweats. If
if it hit mainstrew America, there'll be sweats strewn about
in southern like ten o'clock every day. Guys will be
tearing away their sweats and just leaving them. And then
who would be picking them up and wearing it? Or
people just go like I can do pair of sweats. Now,

(01:30:42):
I'm gonna go shopping, go to a store. No, I'm
just gonna walk down the street because I know gottlieb.
You know he's tearing away the sweats. It's you know,
it's temperature is sitting about eighty now, so he's losing
those sweats and go grab them. Okay, speaking of southern
California things. Right, So you're a New Yorker, you live
in southern California. Okay, so you can relate to the
Jermy Lynn story, um, and other stories that have been
hyped beyond belief, not just because they weren't interesting. Like

(01:31:04):
the Jeremy Lynn story. There's a lot to it that
will forever um be devalued because it was in New York.
But let's be honest, the fact that it was in
New York and that there was the Carmelo thing. Carmelo
was out and then Carmela came back, and he didn't
quite like somebody taking the shine off his star. But
the Jeremy Lynd thing at lasted like two and a

(01:31:24):
half three weeks, but it was bigger than anything in sports,
and maybe some of it was a lull in the
sports calendar or whatever. But this is kind of the
the Otani mania. So Shoyotani, you're just joining us. He
had a perfect game going into the seventh inning last
night in Anaheim Stadium. Okay, the Angels are there, the
Mets there, the Jets, they're the White Sox, they're the

(01:31:46):
Clippers there, the second team. They're not even in in
Los Angeles, mentioned like all my favorite teams, and yeah,
I have a bad sports life. No, it's not a
bad sports life. It just it just is what it is.
You are that team. They will never be the Dodgers, right,
the Dodgers, R. I kind the Dodgers had Jackie Robinson,
the Dodges. The Dodgers were the Brooklyn Dodgers and the
l A Dodgers. And look, I love going to the

(01:32:07):
Big A for a game, but ain't it ain't it
ain't Dodger Stadium, right, you want Scott spec I mean, look,
I mean, look we had Rod Carew and Doug de Sense.
When I was I was Brian down Down. Brian Downe
used a huge bat, that huge bat anyway, Reggie Jackson
went those ridiculously grotesque spectacles. Is huge glasses like those anyway,

(01:32:30):
Like you can't, you can't, no matter how good. And
there's been some historically great Angels announcer. Nobody will top
Vince Scullet, and the Angel will never be the Dodgers,
but they have shootany who had a perfect game going
the seven. He had three home runs in three straight games.
And it's kind of big, maybe the biggest story in baseball.
That and John Carlos stanton Um, you know, can't seem

(01:32:52):
to hit a baseball anymore. And as as much as
strikeouts have become a part of baseball, just like Pine
tart Uh, this is kind of a ridiculous level. But
I mean, I'm fascinating to hear your thoughts on the
Otani story versus the Lynn story, because it feels this
is a little bit more tangible and real, although in
a with a lesser team in a big market then

(01:33:13):
the Lynn thing, which was which was less real but
made bigger because of the market and the team that
it was with. Yeah, the thing with Jeremy Lynn is
that no one was really sold long term. Is he
going to be a star or is he having a moment?
Is he is he gonna be there? And I get
that some people can say that, well Otani, you know, hey,
the next time they see him, you know, the league
season for a few times and when the book gets

(01:33:35):
on him for pictures. But this is a guy that's
had a huge track record of success. Granted it was
in Japan, but he's had a huge track record of
success and now there's a lot of interest in him,
and here he is now on a team and he's
doing something regardless of how really is that has never
been done before. I mean, when you hear Babe Ruth's
name alongside Shohyotani, however accurate it is, it's still said, whoa, wha, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(01:33:58):
I gotta get in on this. It's a phenomenon right now.
Much like Jeremy Lynn. I have much more confidence that
Ottani is a longer term phenomenon than I am Jeremy Lynn,
simply because Okay, Lynn wasn't really well regarded. He came in,
he hit it at the right time, As you said,
Melo was out, so someone had to take those forty
five shots a game that Melo wasn't gonna be taking.

(01:34:19):
But Ottani has now come in and he's assimilated himself
already on a team that is the number two team
in the market, and you already have the best player
in baseball who is okay with being an anonymous best
player in baseball because Mike Trout. We know he likes meteorology,
he likes the Eagles, and he's the best baseball player
on the planet. So okay, now here comes Otani and
he's able to come in and be himself and naturally

(01:34:42):
be able to just hit the ground running. There is
so much interest in him right now. I can't get
enough of him. I would rather and you know me,
Mets fan Nationals. That was a great game last night,
and I love being able to sweep the Nationals. That
was that was a happen I'm sending out gifts of
brooms all my friends. It's awesome. Hey, we'll have the
best record in the National League. It is fantastic. And

(01:35:04):
there was a big night last night. Bryce Harper had
a big home run the game one extra innings. I
would have much rather as a baseball fan, c Otani pitching.
We know he was pitching. Baseball has to develop these
new stars and feed them while the time is hot,
because this is what America is. We get into somebody
for a very short period of time, and then we're done,
whether it's Paris Hilton, whether we're wet, we're so into

(01:35:26):
them and it's oh my god, they're so white hot,
and then okay, now they're gone. Dane Cook was the
hottest comic on the planet and now, yeah, we don't
talk about it happens for all these now it happens.
It happens for people that don't have real talent, Right,
Paris Hilton has no real talent. Dan Cook has no
real talent. He just uses other people's jokes and tell
stories and they're not funny. He was never funny like
Dan You go back and look at like, Wow, Dan

(01:35:46):
Cook was never really funny, and God blessed me. He
made a lot of money on not being particularly funny.
But he did make a lot of money on not
being particularly funny. The like Jeremy Land, who's still kind
of has he still has a small niche in the
NBA's gets back from injury and he's been able to,
you know, kind of Ronda Rousey it right, create a
second job, you know, create kind of a thing after

(01:36:07):
after the bigger thing. But you know there's a limited
like you have. You have to ultimately have talent. I
think the difference with Otani is based upon everyone's evaluation
he had the talent. My fear is he gets hurt, right,
he's a picture, He's an angel picture. When's he gonna
end up on the d L. There was the thing
about his elbow even before spring training began. But but

(01:36:30):
all the names you said to which we have a
short term appetite for ultimately don't have the talent to
be not just breakthrough stars, but to be stars for
a long period of time. And that, I think hopefully
is the difference between show Hey Otani and Germy Land.
It's not that German Land is not a great story.
It's not like he's not a good guy, but jermy
Land can't be a starting point guard a team if

(01:36:52):
you want to make the playoffs. He just not. In
that particular instance, he was really good, really interesting, and
he came from nothing. A guy who's on a nothing
AU program with no scholarship offers into the biggest star
for two weeks in the NBA. But if you remember
how that thing ended, it ended when they went to Miami,
took on the heat, and the Heat were like, let's
just show this guy what real, what a real NBA

(01:37:13):
team is like, and the man him look really bad
and that was kind of the end of it. And
he's bounced around and he's had some really he's had
some good moments in Charlotte, had some other moments. But
the longevity aspect of it, I think is the most fascinating.
I agree with you, I would have liked to see
it last night. But that's just how kind of programming works.
I mean, that's perfect example is the Angels are in
l A. They're not really immediate, you know what It's

(01:37:36):
like nobody, nobody really yearns in TV channels to turn
around and watch the Angels. And yet Mike trus has
been the best player in baseball and now they had
the best story in baseball and our pool Holst is
the first ballot Hall of Famer. You should want to
watch it, but it's the Angels and people don't want
to watch it. I feel like Otani cuts through. You know,
he's on you know you want there's such an interest
level in him now that grows the game, that gets
more eyeballs on the game. This is where baseball's broadcast

(01:37:58):
partners have to get together and say, oh, okay, really,
what what what's better off? Because I said, you had
a great game last night, Mets Nationals. I'm sure you
have the New York market washing markets. That's great, But
Otani's pitching a perfect game? What what what is the
spike gonna be of that game? People that are watched
then suddenly it's okay every time this guy's on. I
want to watch and I know, oh wait, they're doing
the game Tuesday because Otani's gonna d h, I'm gonna

(01:38:18):
watch that game. Or hey, he's pitching every seven days.
What the Angel said, every so next Sunday's we gotta
have that game on telling we got to do next Sunday.
They play Kansas City on Fox Fox Sports One. I believe. So, yeah,
are fun big? I think it's big Fox whatever. But yeah,
look I'm with you. I think some of it is
the reality of the conflicting alliances to who owns what
broadcasting rights and when the decisions are made, it's really hard.

(01:38:41):
College basketball has this problem. You know. The reason college
football works for the most part is you know ESPN
up until this past year. Now now now Fox having
the Big Ten having first pick a Big ten, that
kind of ruins because Fox has Packed twelve and has
Big ten and Big twelve, and so there's a lot
of the big games that College Game Day doesn't want
to go to because they don't want to promote it.

(01:39:01):
Either CBS has it or Fox has it, and so
they end up either going to a game that's not
on their air, or they go to a game simply
because it is on their air. But it's not really
the big game, right and your your your program, well
basque college basketball. They plan the game days way in advance,
and they might have the game or now Fox we
have Big East. You know, we have Packed twelve and
the Big East has the national champion. So you might

(01:39:23):
not go to that game. You might not go to
a Big ten game because you plan in advance. It's
not your game. So I do think that some of
it is more conflicting. Alliance is more than baseball not
getting the breakthrough star power of Shohyotani. I'm guessing you're
gonna get more Shohyotani over the next month than you
ever possibly wanted in your life. Jason Smith gottlieb in
for Dan Patrick Twitter at how about a Fresca Doug

(01:39:45):
at gottlieb Show, Today's show brought to you by Mercedes
a MG driving performance Coming up next? Is golf actually
in a better place now than it's been in a
long time? And doesn't have to do with the Avengers?
Looks plain Fox, Fox Sports any other Dan Patrick Show.
Jason Smith Doug gott leeb In for Dan Doug On
later on today twelve to three Pacific time, My show

(01:40:07):
on nights eight to eleven right here at Fox Sports Radio.
The road ahead bound to take some unexpected turns. Farmers
Insurance can help you understand your coverage options with our
practical knowledge gained for more than ninety years of experience.
We know a thing or two because we've seen a
thing or two. Find an agent at Farmers dot com.
We got Rick Buker coming up in a few minutes
to talk NBA with us. We have the Reality of

(01:40:29):
Rhonda Rousey and Connor McGregor and all the big M
M A W W E type stuff that's been going
on the last forty eight hours coming up later on
this hour. But right now, Doug, you've you and I've
talked a lot of masters today. We talked Patrick Reid,
who's gonna be on the show with us tomorrow's seven
thirty Pacific time, ten thirty East Coast. And you made

(01:40:49):
the point early in the show that golf right now
maybe at the point where it can be as healthy
as it's ever been because you have Tiger Woods trying
to come back, you have the guns and Speth and McElroy.
How good can they be Ricky Fowler, who's always fun
and interesting to me. He's like the fun uncle that
comes to town and then you know, well, you have
a great time over the weekend, but he gets in

(01:41:10):
a fight with your mom or dad. You don't see
him for a while. Then he comes back and it's
all fun. He leaves, it comes back, and it's almost
like it's now an ensemble cast you have engulfed and
it's almost like the Avengers. You have all the guys.
If Tigers, iron Man and and Fore and Hulk are
are Rory and Jordan's speeth, you know you have the
building blocks of people who are going to start cutting through.

(01:41:32):
But the big thing is you need a villain. You
need that. The reason the Avengers worked because Loki was
a great villain. Tom Middleston was a phenomenal villain, and
your villain can be Patrick Read. As much as CBS
tried to push the warm and fusday, Patrick Read, this
is a guy that's had a past with his family,
with the former schools he was at, you know, leaving school,
allegations of not keeping the right scorek are, not being

(01:41:53):
nice to his teammates. He can be that villain and
if you can't find heroes in golf. We're trying to
find the heroes. We know someone to take Tiger Woods place.
Who can be a guy we're having trouble finding that.
You find a villain that's just as good, absolutely, absolutely,
and but now he has to completely buy into it, right,
you have to completely you know, remember who Hogan, you're

(01:42:13):
w w E guy right back was w w F
didn't he go bad? And he he was bad and
then he he was bad for a long time, then
he was Hollywood Hogan, right, So yes, he was bad,
then he was good, he was good, and now no
nobody's seen him some radio tape, right. So so I
think that I I think that like right, and you
have you have. You have Tiger that used to be

(01:42:34):
have a little bit of villain. There used to be
a little bit of darkness obviously, then it became very
dark and now all of a sudden, like Tigers being
nice to everybody again. Then he kind of got Phil
who used to be rivals with Tiger, and then he's like,
well now I kind of like the guy right there,
like the old guys that are still kind of around.
So I I, yeah, I think you have perfect characters. There.
You have Rory that kind of tries to talk trash

(01:42:56):
and put pressure on everybody else, but the pressure clearly
affects him. You got Ricky who's good looking and everybody
likes and he's got the great side piece or whatever,
but he can never kind of yes, yes, yes, yes.
Like if I'm Patrick Reed, I come on our on
the show tomorrow and I just started calling out names,
dudes that say they don't like me, you know, guys
that lied about me. I just I talked trash and

(01:43:18):
call my shot and do the babe ruth point to
the stands sort of thing. Absolutely, that's what golf needs.
Golf's numbers were fine. They're fine. They're like Danny Willette levels.
They're above last year, but they're not anywhere near you know,
Tiger levels. Um. And so you know, look, look, I
you know they're they're back to the levels of when
when Speeth wanted, you know, and and speech was incredible yesterday, incredible.

(01:43:43):
But so if you have Spee, you have Ricky, you
have um and and then look, Patrick Read should have
like a little bit of a gang, right, the gang
of guys that nobody likes. But so he's like the
X when he's like mcneedo and he's got the other
evil mutants with him. Man, you watch to love these
comic bic movies, like some of them Big x Man.
Growing up, I big x Man fan. Yeah, yeah, I

(01:44:05):
had a life. So um, yeah, you were playing basketball,
You're playing basketball, playing all sports? Yeah, I was, I
was playing sports. I actually this is funny. I actually, uh,
most of my son has he's never been into any
sorts of those kind of movies or whatever. Even in
the Star Wars. Didn't like the shooting and Star Wars
and so um, which of the new Batman's is on

(01:44:27):
A Dark Knight Rises was on on like TVs or whatever,
And I was like, Dad, who's Batman? I was like, well,
Batman's Bruce Wayne. I just kind of started it. So
we watched on the first ten minutes in his bedtime,
was like, we gotta go back and watch Batman begins.
You gotta watch the Chritopher Nolan Ones and I can
kind of explain it, but I don't really know a
lot of I don't know any of the comic book
stuff because I didn't read combooks. I like, I don't

(01:44:47):
know anything about that. I only know the Batman movies,
as told by Christopher Nolan that I can completely explain
to him anyway, Yes, I think you have you can
have You could have Bubba, right, did Bubba fire his
caddy at all during the tournament? Did not? So that's
a win for the catty. That's good. So you know
you have Bubba and like VJ, and a couple of
the guys that other people aren't really don't really like
that much. And and then Pat that's like Patrick Reid's

(01:45:10):
gang right there, like hat Fields. And then you got
the McCoy's of the the golf with the with the
golf guys called the Golf Boys whatever, right, you got
those the the Rory's and the Species and the Ricky's
and they're just out having a good time. And then
he got of got the old heads, which is um
Tiger and uh and Lefty and yeah, I think that

(01:45:32):
would make that would make for a good watch, the
the US versus them, the good versus bad. And then
of course she had Nike's smart like Patrick reed next
time he's on Sunday and contention like all black, like
everything black, right, his wife and all right, maybe maybe
his wife should wear a veil, right, a veil something
goth and or or be like be like to to

(01:45:53):
go w W be like Paul Baron bring out the
ashes of Rory McElroy from the Masters. Oh look look
we took care of in the Masters. Oh go all
that all And she's running around the eighteenth green sand
is coming out of the urn. Oh yeah, do all
that go all the way fall? Yes, yes, completely, That's
what I would. That's what I would. That's what I
do because look, at the end of the day, it

(01:46:14):
comes down to, you know, do you have the lower
intestinal fortitude to make some of these pots? And these
guys are all and I think all of them. If you,
if you, if your uh shine a white hot spotlight
on them, many of them, maybe not all of them,
and some of them we're gonna make country club kids,
but all of them. Thought golf suddenly became cool because
of Tiger, and Tiger being back involved makes golf kind

(01:46:34):
of cool again and makes those of us who live
through the Tigers thing. I mean, like, if you want
to question question how good Tiger was, just remember this.
Jordan's speech has already missed more cuts than Tiger has
in his entire career. Think about that. That's ridiculous, ridiculous,
And and look, speech almost had a career slam in
one year and he was he was as good on

(01:46:56):
Sunday yesterday as anybody we've ever seen teed up but
us on a Sunday. But he's missed more cuts in
his career than than Tigers. So there has to be
some reverential respect for Tiger and him being back involved
will bring more eyeballs. And then once you get those,
now we paint the picture of these characters. And if
Patrick Reed can embrace the idea of being a villain,
I think the sports better because of it. Well that's

(01:47:18):
that's the whole thing is as we get ready for
Rick Buker in a second, is that Tiger changed what
we see as success on the PGA Tour used to be.
If a guy one twice, he's having a great year.
Peter Jacobson won the Mercedes and he won in Milwaukee. Boy,
what a great year he's having. It's like, okay, you
wanted Mercedes more, but but that's what it was. If
Jim Gallagher Jr. One the deposit guarantee and the greater

(01:47:39):
heart Frield, Boy, he's having a great year, but was
Tiger winning thirty three percent of all the tournaments he
was in. Suddenly it's hard to find another hero because well, okay,
Jordan's speech, but maybe he plays well one out of
four majors or Rory McElroy plays well in one out
of four Manye, that's why it's much easier to find
a villain. You find we already got. The villains are
already made. Doug Gottlieb, but it's ready made. He could
be the Joker, the Penguin, the river, all all rolled

(01:48:00):
into one. As you can continue to explain Christopher Nolan
to your son and the Batman like that? Is that okay?
Is that a good way to say? No, it's a
great way. I did that. And he also likes Batman
because Batman doesn't kill anybody. Batman he's a good guy.
Batman is a good guy. He's got a dark side,
but he's a good guy. Correct. Joining us now on
the Hotline to talk a little bit of NBA. You
can find him on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is

(01:48:22):
at Rick Buker, senior writer for Bleacher Report. Also check
out his podcast The Swirl with Ryan Hollins and Rick
is actually dressed like Batman for this interview right now, Rick,
thank you for coming in character. My pleasure. Actually, no,
I'm a spider Man guy all the way. The Batman,
the rich dude with all the toys, never really did
it for me. I I think there's a villain in

(01:48:43):
aspect to Batman as much as there is to Patrick Reed.
This should be a podcast right now, the villains of
comic books compared to villains and go the three of
us should do a podcast. Should be pointing out to
have an all ball podcast at Bukers. You have to
join me on. But maybe he'll join me this week.
Maybe I'll make the pitch speaking of villain, And I
think it's great that we got the villain. Is that
like Kevin Durant doing? Is he trying to be the villain? Like?

(01:49:05):
What is it that the Golden State thing is so weird?
I saw Steve Kirk kind of backpedaled on the on
on some of his comments that this past weekend, like
what is the deal with KD? I honestly, I think
k D is simply has has had enough and he

(01:49:25):
doesn't He's going to speak his mind and whether you
like him, whether you don't like him this for anybody
who's saying this goes all the way back to okay See.
You're damn right, it's us. The people in Okay See
embraced him as one of their own. And the part
that he is having a hard time wrapping his head

(01:49:46):
around is that, wait a minute, I left. I I
thought you liked me. I didn't know it was you
liked me as an Oklahoma City Thunder. I thought you
appreciated me as a basketball player, not as a basketball

(01:50:07):
player for the Oklahoma City Thunder. And it's one thing
if you're disappointed that I'm leaving and you want to
say I didn't do this or I didn't do that,
But if you're going to attack me as a person,
you're gonna say I'm a bad person because I made
a career choice to go play someplace else. That's the

(01:50:30):
issue that Kevin Durant has, whether it be with the
media or the fans wherever they may be. And so
he's he's of the mind right now, you know what,
I don't know you guys anything you think I'm that.
I realized now we don't have the relationship I thought
we had. So I'm gonna say whatever. I'm feeling in

(01:50:54):
the moment, and I and I've thought it many a
time and have come close to say saying it to him,
Like you're being a little too real for the way
this this thing works if you're saying exactly what you think.
And we all know that, right. I mean, look, even
as radio host, you can say, you can say what

(01:51:17):
you're feeling, but you know there's certain things that you
might be feeling that you can't necessarily say because it
just you know inherently it's not going to land the
way you wanted to with us. Now on the Dan
Patrick Show, Rick Buker, Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in for
Dan Now, speaking of landing, we have watched the Sixers

(01:51:38):
stick the landing the last three and a half weeks,
fourteen game winning streak. Ben Simmons was asked over the weekend,
who's the rookie of the year. He says, it's me. Rick.
Are you buying the Sixers for the playoffs, a big
run here, potentially Eastern Conference Finals? Because like I said,
they're the hottest team getting hot at the right time.
I'm not, but I have and slow to embrace the

(01:52:03):
entire Philadelphia seventies Sixers approach and uh, and I may
be proved wrong here at some point, but I really
need to see it. I need to see it in
the postseason. And and we all talk about how much
it changes and how much experience is necessary, and how
defense really has an effect when teams can kind of

(01:52:23):
dial in. But at two things. One defensively, what what's
the level that you can get to? And offensively can
you execute when teams take away your first and your
second option? What do you have to go to? Most
most teams, most players have to go through a curve,
a learning curve. As as far as how that works.

(01:52:47):
In watching the Sixers, I mean, the one thing that
I see is that they are playing so free and easy.
But I'm I'm amazed at like how why how wide
open the lane is and how easily Ben Simmons is
getting to wherever he wants to go. Uh. Once teams
dial in and they realized Joe L m Bad isn't there,

(01:53:09):
and they realized that, okay, this is what we need
to take away from Ben Simmons. We're gonna make him
a shooter from the perimeter. How much does that change everything?
And how much of a stunner is it to the
Sixers when this free and easy game that they've had
for fourteen, you know, several weeks now suddenly goes a

(01:53:31):
different direction. Do they have the mental tenacity to stay
with it? That's what I need to see, But I
can't say that, you know. I'm Ben Simmons is better
than I than I thought he would be at this stage.
I love I mean Brett Brown, I've I've said it
multiple times. There has to be a special place in
basketball heaven for a guy who has now won what

(01:53:55):
he's He's won more games this season than he did
in the first three see since combined. He coached teams
that were meant to lose, and somehow he comes out
the other end and he has guys that are still
playing hard for him now that it matters. He's defying
what we've generally thought about basketball and and NBA basketball,
and my hat is off to him. Can they take

(01:54:17):
the next step? I'm I'm interested in seeing. Based on
what I know about the NBA, I have my reservations,
But the Philadelphia seventies Sixers have defied a lot of
what I have generally known about to be true about
the NBA. All Right, some of this is as I
don't think we could have foreseen it going as bad

(01:54:38):
as it could go with Oklahoma City. But I don't
think any of us thought that they were going to
challenge for a championship. Houston appears a little bit better
than maybe I thought they would when Paul and Hardener
together and then Golden State without Steph fully healthy as
of now. How how concerned are you that Golden they

(01:55:00):
won't get to the finish line. You know, I went
to the I was at the Warriors Pelicans game on Saturday,
and I was struck by after losing UH and the
execution and the issues defensively, I was struck by how

(01:55:20):
Steve Kerr and Draymond Green and a couple others that
they were trying to convince us that everything's okay. You
know what, we're looking We feel good that we're gonna
be healthy going into the playoffs. We're glad the season
is almost over. Doesn't matter that we have a losing
record over the last umpteen games, Like finally, you know,

(01:55:42):
we're we're in a good place. Steve Kerr was saying it,
Draymond Green was saying, you know, Quinn Cooks starting at
the point. We feel perfectly comfortable with him being the
point guard and it and it dawned on me that
the the Warriors are now trying to convince instance of
something that we always took for granted, which makes me

(01:56:05):
think they're not just trying to convince us. They're saying
these things to convince themselves in in spite of all
of the signs that this is for all, for all
that has gone right for them the last several years,
that now suddenly karma is coming around and there's a

(01:56:25):
balancing of the scales and they don't want to fully
accept all of the indicators, which is, you know what, guys,
this ain't your ear. Your year. The last couple of
years have been your year. This ain't your year. And
I don't know if Houston is, this is this is
the problem both in the East and the West. I

(01:56:48):
don't know who's there to step up and to take
that spot. I don't know who's good enough two to
cut to knock them off. I found it interesting watching
James Harden against the Thunder over the weekend. I saw
glimpses of the James Harden that I've seen in the postseason,
and I was, oh, that guy is still in there.

(01:57:08):
That's that that that this is could be a statement game,
and suddenly things don't look as as as easy, and
so I don't I don't know that I believe in
somebody else, but I think that the Warriors are clearly
right for the picking on Twitter at Rick Buker. That
is on Twitter at Rick Buker, senior writer for Bleacher Report.

(01:57:30):
Check out his podcast The Swirl with Ryan Hollins. Rick
as always appreciate your time. Until Ryan he owes me
lunch and he knows what I'm talking about, I am.
I gladly will pass along that message. I think he
owes me lunch too. Very good, Thanks so much, buddy.
As always all right, there goes Rick Buker. Great stuff

(01:57:51):
from the NBA there Coming up next, Jason Smith Doug
gottlieb In for Dan Patrick. We have more evidence that
everything you've seen regard and Connor McGregor is great w
w E Theater, much like you saw with Rhonda Rousey
last night. New evidence. Next on Fox Fox Sports Radio,
The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Doug gottlieb In for

(01:58:13):
Dan Today and tomorrow. You got Doug doing three shows
in a twenty four hour span his show twelve to
three Pacific time, My show normally eight to eleven right
here on Fox. The Road Ahead Bound, it takes some unprecedented,
unprecedented and unexpected turns. Farmers Insurance can help you understand
your coverage options with our practical knowledge game. For more
than ninety years of experience. We know a thing or

(01:58:34):
two because we've seen a thing or two. Find an
agent at Farmers dot com. So this has been a
big last couple of days in w w E and UFC.
We had the Connor McGregor press conference snafu in which
he goes crazy and throws dividers and Dolly's and fighters
get knocked out of UFC two twenty three. This weekend,

(01:58:55):
we saw Rhonda Rousey's debut at WrestleMania. WrestleMania debut last night.
That went really really well, And you and I are
having a conversation. We wait, went really really well. It's
you do know these things are planned right? Well? I mean,
but she went well and get hurt. She didn't you know,
nothing had you know, she didn't miss any of her lines.
You know, there's no one got a little crazy and

(01:59:15):
won a match. They weren't supposed to win. You know,
so it went what you wait, anytime you're planning something,
if it goes well, it goes well. Do you think
they would have her lose? People bo Ronda rousing and
go you steak? You can't talk on the microphone. So
it went well? I don't, I don't know. I really
don't understand that it went well. They spent a bunch
of money to go out and get Ronda Rousey. They're

(01:59:35):
gonna be kind of try and build her up to
be their next female superstar, right like you wouldn't. She wouldn't.
She wouldn't sign up to look really bad. No, but
I'm not saying for her. I mean, whenever you're putting
on a live performance on something, it can go good,
it can go bad. The middle of the show today,
you thought your car was getting towed for a few minutes,
that's how Hey, how did the show go today? You

(01:59:56):
would say, Oh, it went bad? Wait, but I heard
you guys were having fun talking a lot of stuff
all this time. Yeah no, but then my car almost
got told, but it didn't really get talk. If it
got told, it would have been a bad show. Okay,
So here's here's the thing. I didn't buy the Connor
McGregor thing when it happened, and I really don't buy it.
I mean, I just like Connor McGregor just happens that

(02:00:16):
have flown over for this, you know, one press conference
just happens to get you know, and he he instead
of going after some dudes, he picks up something and
hurls it at a bus, and some guys I've never
heard of, you know, supposedly get hurt and they're not
on the card, in a card that nobody was fired
up to see anyway. Like I just to me, like, wait,
no one's talking about UFC. Connor McGregor goes crazy, gets arrested,

(02:00:40):
like what. He got arrested for throwing a like a
chair at a bus that wasn't moving, that had some
of his competitors on, and then all of a sudden
they have, you know, the perp walk with Connor McGregor.
Like that feels that feels like a bad The one
thing I was Look, there's two things I respect about
w w okay. One is the three main people watch
no matter when they put it on off right, three

(02:01:00):
million people watch every time you put it on. I'm
not one of the three million people. I respect that
there are people that watch it too. As I've been told,
the storyline is pretty good, right, bring good scripts. Yeah,
I don't think this. Connor McGregor's script would have made it.
I think Nickman's would have be like, nah, nah, don't
see it when had happened. I said that that night,

(02:01:21):
I said, this is something that was planned that went sideways.
A leg got a little bit out of control for
a couple of reasons. But is it still planned? Yeah?
Because you know what is the is Roger Goodell doing
a press conference if Antonio Brown gets arrested for throwing
something at at a bus? Is he making the rounds
and talking on a whole bunch of different shows and
saying McGregor business is bad? And then so there's all

(02:01:45):
of that that went on, and then this weekend, Oh,
by the way, we get this little bit from Floyd Mayweather.
Retiring man has been great. But as you know and
everybody know, go and retiring man. I come back. Is
it possible that I come back? Yes? But if I
do come back, it has to be in an octagon surprise. Oh,

(02:02:08):
now we're gonna have part two of my bout with
Connor McGregor, I'm gonna come and fight in the octagon.
All of a sudden, capitalizing on all this connormergregor stuff,
suddenly Floyd Mayweather just says, oh, if I come back,
it's in the octagon. Of course, that's what they're gonna do,
and they'll make another hundred million dollars a piece. And
this one, at least you may think, all right, McGregor
might have a chance because you're in actually his element,

(02:02:30):
rather than this other fight where Mayweather held him up
for a few rounds and then said, Okay, now I'm
gonna win. That's kind of how it goes. It's bull
Come on, I mean, look, you you've clearly sniffed it out. Right.
We go from we go from like Con McGregor, why
was he even there? I didn't even know you f
C two twenty three was going on. Oh wait, now

(02:02:51):
he's arrested. Then all of a sudden, you see Dana
on all the TV. Uh, we're out of the conomcgregor business.
I don't believe that for a second. Right, Conragrey wants
to fight, We'll have you fight even against Tomato. Can't
because we're all gonna get rich off. And then in
the exact saint like Floyd Mayo was like, hey, you
know what, I'll fight the octagon. Come on, we're smarter
than this, aren't we know? Because this is now gonna

(02:03:13):
be the third time. This is not gonna be the
third he held up Pacquiao and it was, and everybody felt, boy,
I got duped. I spent a lot of money on
a fight watching him just be a technician, which is
what Floyd Mayweather does, and he wins that fight. Pakia
is walking out of the ring, smiling, waving to the crowd.
When it's all done, I said, okay, no one's gonna
fall for this again. And what happened, well, everybody fell

(02:03:33):
for it again. On the tailpipe wing a falling open
on the tailpipe. That's that's that's Beverly Hills. Cop, you
haven't seen. You don't know. I'm sorry, then you're just
too young to know. We ain't gonna fall with and
we all fall with the on the tailpipe again. It'll
happen again here if they go into the octagon, it
will happen again. H McGregor and men, now, because now
that's the thing, Ken McGregor, actually win, this will will

(02:03:54):
Floyd aloud. Will Floyd boxing, Will he try to just
destroy McGregor first, or will McGregor's m m A, you
know what his experience helping with that will be the storyline.
It can be Oh now it's a bit and we'll
all for everybody will fall for it again, everybody another
hundred million for both of these guys, And McGregor is
gonna say, why would I ever fight in the UFC again?
I could just do crap like this and make a

(02:04:16):
hundred billion dollars. When I'm sweating for two million for
UFC two oh seven and to twelve and to fifteen,
I think he's ruining the sport of boxing, and I
actually think this is then end up making a mockery
of a great sport in mixed martial arts. Just do
But because it's hard to believe anything is real anymore,
because this isn't real. That wasn't a real fight against McGregor.
McGregory had no chance for Dougov Jason Twitter and how

(02:04:39):
about a fresca at Gottlieb Show or back tomorrow in
for Dan Patrick. This is Fox Sports Radio

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Host

Doug Gottlieb

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

The Joe Rogan Experience

24/7 News: The Latest

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Doug and Jason Smith fill in on The Dan Patrick Show: 04/09/2018