April 19, 2018 • 42 mins
After a huge performance in game 2 against the Pacers, Doug worries LeBron James doesn't have enough support around him to go far in the playoffs. He thinks the Browns are actually doing something really smart, but people are saying it's dumb just because it's the Browns. Former USC RB Ronald Jones II joins the show to talk about preparing for the draft and his former QB Sam Darnold.
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UH Series XM Channel eight four. It is eighty four, right,
there's the eighty three. I always honestly it's eighty three.
Did I tweet out of any four yesterday? Somebody got
somebody got a huge listenership on eighty four and two
then did nothing to earn it yesterday. Anyway, great show
for you yesterday, equally good show today. I'm I'm super
super excited, super excited. Let me get to what happened
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last night. Uh. First, You're like, look, I don't know,
Greg Popovitch. Well, I've interviewed him. I saw him speak
what was that two weeks ago with the Final Four.
I think he's an incredible coach. I don't like the
way in which he decides to handle the media. I'm
not a huge fan of that um but I mean, like,
look that has all of that aside. I'm a human
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being and I happen to also be a husband. So
when I heard that his wife Aaron passed away yesterday,
I was crestfallen for him. I didn't know she sick,
and I know nothing about his personal life. He keeps
his personal life very, very close to the vest. We'll
get to what I think was at play there with
the interview was just the kind of a classic something
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happens in TV that that that I hope you will understand,
does not in any way reflect negatively up upon I
think Lebron or Ali la force at all. But it's
one of those things that we have a tendency to do,
and I don't know why we do it. We also
have a tendency to be results oriented. And because Lebron
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James was so good scoring the first what thirteen points,
because he is statistically and physically and literally dominantly. Like
the only thing missing in terms of a Jordan Esque
performance from Lebron James obviously end of game heroics would
have been you know, he took a three late, didn't
make it, you know, a couple of shots late. But
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the only thing missing was like, oh yeah, hey, Lebron
played thirty six holes in the morning and then went
out and played cards with the boys at night. Like
that's the only thing difference between if you didn't grow
up in the Jordan era, that's the only difference was
Jordan would play like eighteen or thirty six, come out,
drop forty, and then go play cards all night in
Atlantic City and then go do it again the next night.
I sure seemed like, but can we just admit that
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as good as Lebron is, the rest of his team
is not close to being uh is not close to
being up to snuff, right, Like, Lebron gives a herculean
performance in the first quarter to give them a lead,
one that they would never relinquish. But they almost did.
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They almost did, And you can go a Gottli listen. Uh,
if ifs and butts were candy and nuts a right
to be Christmas every day you get Kyle Corver, who
talked about dealing with tragedy his brother passed away a
couple of weeks ago. Kyle Corver hits four threes, they
start him, they start an offensive lineup, and I'm sitting
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there going like you you can't script a better performance
from lebron right. They they did to him what frankly
the Calves used to do to Michael Jordan. I don't
know how many of you remember the speaking of Jordan's
is Lenny Wilkins was the guy who's like, I'm not
double teaming Jordan's. He's gonna have to go for fifteen
or to beat us, and you know what he doing,
go for fifty. But we're we're talking about the Pacers,
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who I know, Darren Collison led the NBA in three
point shooting. But Collison, Miles Turner, bug Don Bugdanovitch, Thaddy
is young. That's their starting lineup. And of course Victor Oladipo,
who regrets to the mean we had a wide open
three down three in a miscommunication and didn't make it.
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But that's more who Oladipo is. Nine of eighteen, two
of eight and three. All of those things that Lebron
could not have been better, could not have been better,
and they won by three points at home. And oh yeah,
by the way, I don't do we. I don't know
if we have an update yet on on Kevin Love.
I believe X rays were negative, although X rays are negatives,
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but Kevin Love ain't healthy. And as we've seen in
the NBA playoffs, teams make adjustments game to game, and
I'm not sure there is another adjustment outside of going
with an offensive lineup for the Calves. Lebron was asked
after the game about being aggressive. He basically kind of
he gave credit more to Tyler. Take a listen. No,
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you said coming into this game that you wanted to
be more assertive. Did you think it was gonna take
a forty six point effort to uh lead your team
to victory. Um. I didn't come into the game saying
I want to be a sertive coach, Lou said. I
never said sad. I'm gonna play my game, and I
did that tonight. I made some shots early, gone to
a rhythm, you know. Defensively, I wanted to be in tune.
I want to try to get my guys involved as well.
But I mean, I don't. I just don't. I don't
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come into game saying I'm gonna try to do this,
I'm gonna do that. It just kind of happens to
follow the game. I played a game the right way,
and that's just the result of it. So yeah, that
sounds great, But the truth is that here's a guy
who uh, here's a guy who he came in, he
was locked in, he was ready, and the Pacers looked,
there's foul trouble. I mean, Victor Oladipo gets two early fouls,
three fouls in the first half, barely plays the first quarter,
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and and Lebron just kind of takes over the game.
So he can say that he didn't come in with
the mindset of being more assertive, but actions not worth right.
His actions prove otherwise. So I look, I'm still struggling
to to say that the Pacers are gonna win this series.
But it continues to look exactly like I thought it
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would look. Last year, it took them third team games
to get to the NBA Finals. This year, it does
not feel like it will if they get there, Remember,
Toronto is waiting for him, and they may they may
have Lebron and Toronto does not. Toronto may always come
up short, but that thing ain't going four games and
then we'll see who they play in these Eastern Conference finals.
But if it's the seventies sixers with embiid back, there's
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some mismatches that aren't going that are uncurable for the Calves,
even if they have Lebron, who's the ultimate elexer. Lebron
is great his team whatever the opposite of great is wow,
just just a litany of flaws on that team. He
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couldn't have played better. They're at home. Oladipo infoul trouble
early in the game and they won by three points. Um.
Then there was the back and forth between him and
Ali La Force. We've since seen video and both sides
have admitted that Ali gave the heads up. Hey, I'm
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gonna ask you about Pop's wife? Are you okay commenting
on it? Here's the Q and A on uh Care
of Turner Sports from During this game, we got the
really devastating news The Spurs announced that Aaron coach Popovich's
wife officially passed away. I know you're close with Pop,
Any words or thoughts you'd like to share with him?
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Pop fans, Pop Um, that's that's such a tragedy, and um,
you know my best wishes goals out. It's a pop
in his family. I know that's that's devastating news. And um,
I mean the NBA family, we all sit together. I
know we could read every night was something like this happens,
if it was everything in perspective. So you know, I'll
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send my I'll sell my my my well wishes and
my prayers up to the heavens above. I know the
man above never makes a mistake, even when you sometimes
have to um, ags why. But that's just terrible news.
And I best of luck the popman and then everybody
in San Antonio, the whole Spurs family. That's all I
can say. Allie, Yeah, I don't I look, I don't
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put it on Alley because I don't think you know,
Ali's not asking that question lest somebody says you should
ask him that question. And I we just do this
in TV, like we got the raw emotion and we
got him kind of working out his answer on the fly,
and I guess it becomes good TV. I just they're
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just such a like you just got done playing a
game you lost by three you won by three points.
You survive. You could not have played better. You got
Kevin love her his thumb, You got the miscommunication out
of a time out where Oladipo mrs MS is an
open three. You kind of survive ux hail. There's a
million things you could get to. And somebody up in
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Turner Sports was like, hey, we should really ask him
about Greg Popovitch's wife dying. I don't know, I don't know.
I guess we got to the Lord of Lebron is
a thoughtful human being, and uh that that Ali's really
good at her job, that she can smart smart enough,
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she's smart enough and thoughtful enough to give him the
heads up so that if he didn't want to touch it,
he didn't have to ask it. But this is like,
this is a TV thing with me, This is a
you gotta make sure you ask him about Pop's wife.
You're like, why you know, he was just playing a game.
I don't um I hit as many shots as the
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big three from Oklahoma City did in the fourth quarter
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Cleveland Browns are considering or have considered, taking two quarterbacks
in the draft this year. Good idea, bad idea, I'll
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tell you next. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three pm Eastern
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. The story that came out earlier today was
the Browns are considering, actually considering taking not one, but
two quarterbacks. That's that's that's the report, and it has
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caused NFL fans to an NFL pundance to laugh at it,
and it's it's actually a really interesting idea, one that
has samerit this from the Ringer this draft season, particularly
over the last six weeks. I've asked multiple members of
the Cleveland Browns organization, which owns the number one, number
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four picks in addition to three second rounders. What I
thought would be a very stupid question. Have you considered
ignoring the norms and drafting two quarterbacks high in the draft?
And the answer is yes. People I asked have thought
about it, discussed it, and investigated it. This is not
to say, well, happen, but the Browns have considered it.
In fact, one person I spoke with who could immediately
rattle off every previous instance of teams drafting two passers
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high in the draft, said he'd done prep work on
the idea. I mean, look, r G three was drafted
in the first round, even though the Washington Redskins moved
mountains in or to move up and trade with the St.
Louis Rams to get the draft pick. They also drafted
Kirk Cousins in that fourth round, same draft. And remember,
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none of this says it's going to happen. But have
they considered it? And the answer is yes. At some
point it's about acquiring assets, and there's also a hit
rate to it. Now, you can't play both quarterbacks at once,
and of course they have Tyrod Taylor making sixteen million dollars,
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but what's to say that you couldn't have both quarterbacks
backing up Tyrod Taylor and have them practice and see
which one do you alike and which one do you
not like? Which is which is better? Right? Put to
put two dogs in a ring and throw on a
porch shop and see who comes out with a full stomach,
who comes out with an empty stomach. That's so interesting.
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I was driving down the street the other day and
my son said, Dad, he's nine, Dad, there's two gas
stations right across from each other. That's got to be
the dumbest idea ever. And I tried to explain away, well,
you know, listen, son, it keeps the prices a little
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bit down because it had to be competitive. And remember
that just because we're both driving on the right hand
side of the street. And he's like, they're both on
the right hand side street. Well, it's like we look
the cross street. If you're going this way, you might
hit this one. You go that way that one. And
I was like, and he's like, that's just dumb. Don't
they split up the number of cars that you could
get there? And I was like, well, some of it
has to do with zoning. But we do we we
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do actually do this, We do actually have survival of
the fittest. The one difference is that only one quarterback
can play. Of course, I mean there is a kid
at Louisville who some people think could play another position
and could be unbelievable. And it is a position that's
got about a hit, right, And if you're the Browns,
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you've been snake bitten before. Do you go and get
to seeing as one might flame out but the other
might be the real deal. But more than anything, I
don't think people have come to understand what the word
considered mean investigated me. You're not doing your job if
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you don't consider every different angle and possibility. It's it's
so much like a chess game. Rama's do you play
chess at all? I do not, And I've never learned
how to play chess, So that's quite interesting. On my
end um music, do you play chess? Ryan Music? You
play chess? I wouldn't say I actively play chess, but
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I do know how and will from time to time. Yeah.
And and the thing about chess, and I would say
there are other games like this. I don't think as
much with with checkers wh chess because the pieces can
move in such different directions than one another. The thing
about chess. Which is fascinating is when you you know,
you take your hand off that chess piece after you
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move it, all bets are off, right, there's no reneging
on it, there's no That's the end of the turn, right,
that's the end of the turn. But you have to
look at all possible options. You have to look at
every other every other piece on the board, because every
piece on the board is affected by your move, yours
and your opponents. And some of this is about you know,
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some of chess is about processing. You know, if you
play that speed chest, you're having to process this thing,
you know, uh, processing more quickly. But you have to
consider every possible move. Well, oh hey, hey, hold on,
you don't use your queen in the third move of
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a game of chess. Now, what do you say is
you don't traditionally move your queen. Doesn't mean you move
your queen. But you look at if I move my
queen here, how does this affect everything else? I? Oh? Yeah,
By the way, what's to say that you don't draft one?
Hold on to him? Somebody has a quarterback go down,
and then all of a sudden you can get more
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first round picks for your first round pick. The Denver
Broncos are actively shopping number five because people think they'll
be the fourth quarterback still hanging around at five. Let's
just say the Cleveland Browns are like, we'll take them both,
and oh yeah, by the way, high draft picks does
not necessarily mean first round. They could take one that
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that somebody that falls to the second round. I wouldn't
advise them to do it because they have Tyrod Taylor.
I wouldn't advise them to do it because it's going
to create a culture of one to which those guys
aren't gonna work together. It just doesn't work that way.
Human nature takes over. We talked about communism, I think
a little bit yesterday light right, Like, on paper, communisms
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sounds like a great idea. What I can just go
work and not have to worry about anything else, and
everybody makes about the same and everybody gets taken care
of the same, and I can just go do my
job and be awesome my job. The problem is human nature.
It's like, hey, I'm better at what I'm doing that
he is. What I'm doing is more important, or what
I'm doing is more profitable. I should be making more money.
Human nature takes over. That's why communism works on paper,
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doesn't work in reality. But you at least study it
and think about it and try and just just like
completely free capitalism doesn't work right And oh yeah, by
the way, if you're going to investigate it, you've got
to investigate the fact that the Washington Redskins, though on
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paper it worked right, on paper, they got a rookie
of the year who led them to the playoffs, and
their fallback was a franchise caliber quarterback. On paper, it worked.
The reality of it was that the that the top
pick was so popular with the owner at times with
the fans, that he could never become popular in the
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locker room and with the coaching staff. Meanwhile, the fourth
round pick always felt like he was the fourth round pick,
treated like he was the fourth round pick. Hell, they
couldn't even pronounce his name. So even when you elevated
him to starting quarterback and gave him twenty plus million
dollars guaranteed as a franchise taggi for two years, he
was still pissed. Of course, it won't work, And of
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course it's a it's a it's an idea that you're
going to pass on but that doesn't mean you shouldn't
investigate the possibility of an idea, especially with the weighted
nature of the particular position in question in terms of value.
Just because it's the Browns doesn't make it a bad idea,
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and just because you don't want to do it doesn't
make it a bad idea. What's a bad idea is
not investigating every idea and seeing how how it looks
on the chessboard. Just don't pull that hand off the move.
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You know. The Patriots said the same thing. Hey, we
got the we have two first round picks. We're thinking
about taking tw first round clers like genius. Huh that
I mean genius right, Belichick doesn't know which one he likes.
He takes them both late first rounders genius the Cleveland Browns.
Investigating what we're thinking of we're thinking about it like idiots.
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This is as deep a running back class as many
people can remember. Uh is Daris Jus of l s
U there Sonny Michelle and Nick Chubb from Georgia carry
on Johnson from Auburn rashand Penny as the sand New
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State kid, Royce Freeman really talented of Oregon, n C
States and I'm Hay. And then of course there's say
Kwan Barkley, but a guy who many people believe is
as talented as any of them, including sake on Barkley's
Ronald Jones a second. He had fifteen or fifteen yards rushing,
nineteen touchdowns in two thousand and seventeen. Where's the third
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team All American? Um? And he's gonna wait to hear
when his name is called. And I'm I'm I'm fascinated
by Ronald Jones of USC joint just on the Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, you pulled your
hamstring at the combine. I'm fascinated by the You know, look,
all you do is you the combine. You don't necessarily
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need it to run your forty time there, but you
do it so you show that you you're not scared.
You always improve on it on your pro day. What's
that like to to work on your body, to work
on you know, your start, to work on your stride
and everything it takes to run a grade forty? Want
to play your hammy. Yeah, I mean it was questioning
for me. You know, started at an exos and after
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the comboint, I went to the GSP how in Atlanta
working with coach Williams, and yeah, you know that definitely
got me right, you know, doing the software therapy and
this just grinding, you know, getting back like you said,
because I had like three weeks in between the combine
is in my protoy and I still wasn't ready by then,
and so I had to have the second prodoy while
I ran it be four four yeah, and so then
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then then you put up before four and you're nodding
your head. Um, how much does that change things in
terms of what your agent tells you, what teams are
telling you. Once you finally put up that number, Um, yeah, definitely,
you know, gave them, you know, a benchmark. You know,
they knew that I was, you know, a speed guy,
you know primarily, so it was good just to have
that number, you know, better than the four six at
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the combine. But yeah, it's definitely been frustrating. Sam Sam
Sam flu Back made a special tray ever making a
big deal, but the Sam flu Back just to throw
to you at your combine. What was the conversation like,
was like, was this a big thing? Did you reach
out to him? Did he actively knew? Like how did
it happen that that Sam was somewhere else? I think
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he's visiting Cleveland and he came back to take me
through that process. Yeah, So it was like it was
real last minute and I hadn't you know, I texted
him and stuff, but my agent, uh reached out to
his agent to make sure and make sure that he
was gonna be in and tum all that flight. So
they picked him up literally that morning and he was
there seven o'clock, you know, as if it was his workout.
So that's just you know, credit to him and how
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much he cares about his teammates and the relationship that
we have. Is that the real Sam Donald? I mean
sometimes we as media members, we can get snowed by guys, right,
we can get guys who when the red lights on
that one guy and then when the with the fellas
that by themselves they're different guy. Is that what he's
really like? Yeah, that that's that's the real film. Mean, Uh,
you know, you know he's a leader on the team
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and always has been. He's competitor, and yeah, I mean
he'll do anything for us, like you know he did
there uh stug out the show Fox Sports Radio. Are
you tired of talking about him? Though? Like like, hey,
can we talk about me? Because I'm gonna be drafted
high too, you know. I mean that's that's why you know,
I don't even ship you know, if he's gonna be
the number one pick, you know, the best quarterback in
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the draft, you know, in my opinion, and we compliment
each other. You know, he saved me in games and
there are times where I were in the ball you know,
uh the clock out and stuff like that. So yeah,
that's that's that's my dogs for life. Oh I I understand.
So do you got any inside information for us? Like,
do you know do we we can do the breaking
news thing that he's going to going overall? Yeah, I
mean I don't know any more than than what you
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guys know, because I don't even know whe I'm going yet.
So uh yeah, we're just gonna have to wait and see.
That night. I'll be watching the Front and Center because
uh yeah, he'll be in Texas. Uh yeah, I think
he's going to the dress. That would be good. Um, Okay,
So as far as where you're going, how important is
it where you go and how important is it how
high you go, because we've even Rosen's caught caught some
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heat because he's like looking at him pertell high, Igo,
It's more about fit for you personally. What what's the
level of importance. Yeah, you know, you definitely want to
go as high as possible, you know, not believe I
have first round talent and all that, so uh, you know,
just just comes down to the team and you know,
what they believe they need and top in with Boston.
So yeah, I guess you know, I can kind of
agree with that. It's more so to fit, not necessarily
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the position all the song. So when you're meeting with teams,
has anybody brought up something You're like, damn you you
knew about that? Oh uh yeah, you know, they just
bring up you know, injury history and then uh, there
was a situation where you know, I didn't travel with
the team for the cow game, so that you know,
they just asked you about that. But yeah, I didn't
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get too many crazy questions like some other guys. I
don't even necessarily mean crazy questions, just the idea of
the thoroughness of the researcher's like damn, I yeah, yes,
my junior year in high school. Yes I dated China.
Yes you got me. Okay, I'm sorry I did anything
like that. Yeah, it was not like that too crazy. Uh,
they just they didn't know about you know how it
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was referred to the Sam Sampson with my hair and
cutting the dreads. You know, they kept asking me, you know,
why you cut your dread line stuff like that. But uh, yeah,
it was nothing too too deep that they dug up.
How important in their evaluation is you know, like I
think all of us, all of us think, well, you know,
look when Ronald Jones gets the ball, you know he
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handing the ball, it's lightning in a bottle, right, Plus
you can catch the football as well. But how important
when when you sit down with them, how important is
their evaluation of you as a as a pass blocker? Yeah,
it's very important, you know, like visiting with these teams.
You know, obviously the quarterback is you know, the centerpiece
of the whole franchise. So you know, they asked me
about that. You know, I tell them, you know, I'm
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still adding weight and you can always use uh work
with technique and stuff like that. So uh yeah, I
think they're pretty competent, you know, in that aspect. And
whoever picks me up, you know, I'll be willing to
improving that area as well. Ronald Jones joining us in
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's
in your home state of Texas. You're from McKinney, Texas.
You're going home, You're stay in so Cat. What are
you doing for the draft? Oh? Yeah, you know, I'm
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gonna be in Texas. Man. Uh, I'm gonna have a
party of us barbecue my friend, family's friend day on
that place. So I'll just have a small gathering with
a friendly and for do you wait, you want to
wait Hudson's barbecue. That was yeah, Hudson's barbecuis and McKinney
actually so uh. But I'll actually be at the first
Goal location that night. But yet a doubt. The draft
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is in Allington about thirty minutes away. No, no, I
I know, I know, I know Texas well enough. People
giving you a shout out, beeping you on your horn,
Ronald Jones, Jus and the Dug guys, Well you're not
keeping it, really, You're not going to the hometown, said
you're going to Friscale. Well, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be
the first muney they got. Okay, so you're so are
you going ribs? Are you going to pull pork? Are
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you going chicken? You're gonna yeah? Okay? And and how
now is there brisket when you when they cut it out?
But it's not brown inside right, like it's tender and
it's red. Oh yeah, it's tender. Yeah, it's it's it's
real greasy. Uh. And then the Hallapeeno shutter slausses. Do
you put barbecue sauce on it? You just go straight meat?
(26:57):
Oh yeah, barbecue on that. They got hot and spicy,
so you know, I put that on the sandwich two
weeks down and something like that. Some some Texas some
Texas toast on the side to to mop it all up.
I heard you're a sweet sauce guy, though, I just
this is all the research I've been doing. They said
he doesn't really like the hot, spicy sauce. He likes
the sweet sauce. True or not true? Uh? Yeah, I
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said that's true. You know I like barbecue, uh, wings
and stuff. You know, yeah, it just depends on the day.
Ronald Ronald Joe jonesaphs on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Tradio. It's a day to which look, anybody
who grows up playing a sport, dreams of having their
name called obviously, dreams scoring your first touchdown, playing the
Super Bowl, playing pro Ball, all those other things. When
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you close your eyes and you and you're getting close
to being able to feel it, what's the What team
do you do you when you close your eyes and
you and you think, what team do you think about? Oh? Yeah,
that's all I mean, Yeah, I grew up with you know,
you know whatever, seeing you and give it an opportunity.
That's you know, the values we don't have a way
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to see. All right, and well listen, safe travels to McKinney, Texas.
Really appreciate you joined us and best of luck next
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Earlier today, Colin Calherd had this to say about Baker Mayfield,
Remember Baker Mayfield. It was quoted in Sports Illustrated, saying,
I didn't look at their playbook who was when he
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met with the Chargers as much as I should have.
It could have gone a little bit better. But at
the same time, I'm prioritizing which playbooks I'm going to learn.
No offense to them, but I've got a lot of
my play here's Colin. First of all, everything is something,
Everything is something. I now have a guy who has
grabbed his crotch on the sidelines, planted a flag at
Ohio State's logo, arrested, public intoxication, tackled by police, didn't
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bother studying a Charger playbook. Shirtless Sports Illustrated by the
way TCU Gary Patterson, a very respected coach, called out
his dad once said his dad is arrogant and full
of himself. Apple Tree fall, far from it. You've heard
the story. Not saying any of this stuff is criminal,
not saying he's a bad person, But when your college
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football season ends and you're a top quarterback and you're
gonna get drafted. You have a tiny little window three
months to behave. Who's the quarterback we've heard nothing from.
Not a peep, Sam Donald, not a peep. It's not
posing with his shirt off every interview he aces his
pro day. He wanted to throw in the rain. Couldn't
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agree more within and look, there's there's a couple of
different parts to it. Let's first start with the comparison part,
because it is you're not comparing to no. One. You're
not comparing two adults, and you know you're comparing to
other potential draftees, right, you just are Lamar Jackson. There's
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been issues getting him on the phone, get him in
for workouts. Mom is the agent doesn't want to run
a forty Um. Again, that is not the wilful and
that's not the arrogance of a Mayfield. But it is
something Josh Rosen with all of the different comments, some
which can be taken out of context, some which we
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have a tough time filtering and understanding, some to which
it's just like, why does even cond of need to
go there? Um, we haven't heard much from Josh Allen,
but there hasn't been anything to dispel any of the
sense that he's just not accurate, even if you can
throw it a mile. And then there's Sam Donald, right,
Sam Donald is the guy who we had Ronald Jones on,
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Like Sam Donald flew back early to throw for somebody
else at their pro day. Sam Donald does every right thing,
says every right thing. Now, let's just discussed discuss Mayfield.
It's not just the bravado by which he plays. And
I don't in and in and of itself, I don't
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care about the public in talks. But there is uh,
there's enough little things there, and then there's this. Look,
here's how it works in any interview, any interview. Ton
kalas Go is the general manager of the San Diego Chargers.
He used to be with the Indianapolis Sorry with the
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l A Chargers. He he used to be with the
Indianapolis Colts. You don't think he knows everybody around the league.
You don't think these guys talk. You don't think that
the fact that this story got out a guy who's
as well liked, wells respected, like, Look, I have a meeting,
I take my time out to to to really talk
to you because they're looking at some point for the
replacement of Philip Rivers, a guy who's a franchise quarterback.
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And the least you could do is research a little bit. Alright.
We we didn't ask you to quote chapter in verse
every different part of Charger lore. We asked you to
prepare the same way to prepare for any anything. And
then when you factor in he's small, he's not as
athletic as Russell Wilson, doesn't have strong enough farm. He's
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not Drew Brees. He was a two time walk on.
He does he does carry adrito bag of chips on
his shoulder. Like look. I think it's a super a
bad look, and I think he's gonna be drafted. He's
it's gonna be the Peter Principal. It's gonna be elevated
above the level of his aptitude. Fox Sports Radio has
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Fox Sports One, all our different TV over different TV entities.
Um Lebron goes crazy last night and they still only
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win by three. Should we be really concerned even though
the Calves even out the series of one game piece. Well,
I think what it shows is that he's going to
need his teammates to step up. And I think that's
why you don't see Lebron James play like that more often.
You know, he could probably do that three out of
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every four or five games, and and certainly in an
early round series if he wanted. But he's always believed
that we're better off if I'm getting thirty ish in
terms of points and nine or ten assists and somebody
else that's chipping in with twenty or something like that.
Another guy hits seventeen or fifteen. So um, I think
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that that's why the game was close, So that that's
not how Lebron James is going to play every night. Um.
So the Lauren, the thing that the Calves need to
have is just another few play be able to step
up and deliver. Obviously, Kevin Love has not played up
to what you expect from a second option all Star. Um.
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They didn't get him enough looks in the first game
obviously at the hand injury in game two, but they're
gonna need, you know, and what you sall with Tyed
lou yesterday, he went to the old horses that have
been there before, Kyle Corver j R. Smiths, They start
and then you know, you look at Ridey Hood, Jordan Clarkson.
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Their minutes were a lot lower than they have been,
and so he was like, look, I'm gonna go with
the guys that have been there, but I think they're
gonna need some of those young guys to step up
and give them some good games to get out of
this series. I still still think they win it, but
I think it's gonna be a tough one. I think
it could be a tough six, maybe even seven games.
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Christophers are joining us on the Doug Otlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Feels like in Bead's gonna play tonight.
Don't if you saw that they moved him from doubtful
to probable with some internal uh injury report, like to feel.
It feels like they tried to steal the other game
at home to rest him, and now they're like, all right,
we gotta play him, even if they don't really want
you tonight. Yeah. I don't know if that's him just
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really pushing and pushing and pushing. Look I would err
on the side of caution if i'm them, If he's
ready and the doctors are saying he's fine, by all means,
play him because this is obviously a pivotal game. But
if there's any doubt, and if the extra couple of
days would help you, I would see him until game four.
Number one. You know, it's more about the future than
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the present, and this is a guy that is injury prone.
It's his second hit. He's taken to that. I you know,
when he was at Kansas, he got hit in the
left eye, wore goggles in the next game. It wasn't
this serious, but still you just want to be over
cautious with him. And they could potentially win this game
without him. Um, they obviously did that in game one.
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If you lose, you're in a two one hole. But
that's not an insurmountable deficit against the Miami Heat, especially
when you're getting them be back. So I would air
on the side of caution. Uh, And I would think
that's what they're going to do. So if he's out
there tonight, I assume that means you know, he's he's
all good and ready to go. How happy should Laker
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fans be at what happened with Oklahoma City last night? Well, uh,
they they should like that. Look, I think Paul George
unless okay See, you know, have some great running the playoffs,
and I think that's a possibility. Um, I think they
win this series. This is what you have. I believe
you have a a team that doesn't have nearly as
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much talent, but it's very well coached and execute and
plays smart basketball. And they do have one great athlete
in in uh Donovan Mitchell. And then you have a
team that's wildly talented, are very talented, but I don't
think they're very well coached and don't play smart basketball.
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And so you're which one is going to win out
in this series? I think okay See will win out.
And I tell you what, I think they can make
it tough on the Houston Rockets in the next round
if they won that second round somehow, I wonder if
that would convince Paul George to stay another year. Um. Look,
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I think the eyes on favorite is clearly the Lakers. Although,
and I actually like your opinion on this, I think
the best basketball fit for Paul George and three agency
man go to Philly. Oh I think he'd be perfect
with Ben Simmons and Joe L m B. You don't
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think you'd be a great fit there, No, I think
I think I think he I think he would. But
it's like, why would you now you're just moving around
chess piece, Like, well, stay in Oklahoma City. You got
Russell Westbury really well, they're they're completely different types of
point guard. No, I agree in terms of Ben Simmons diaming,
you up and and you create, you know, you get
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shots off the space that they need and and you
can guard a couple of positions. I mean, the whole
thing is to is the the chance to come and
play home. I play at home otherwise better sayance of
being in the East and winning. You know, you know,
we all know the East as an easier road to
the finals. Um, but yeah, obviously wants to. I think
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that changes with Boston when Boston gets healthy. Umill think
Philly is a better team going not not maybe not
right now, but next year I think Philly would be
the favorite. I mean, we'll see what Lebron James does,
but if he leaves, I think Philly would be the
favorite in the East. Obviously, everybody's reacting to the to
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the news that Pop's wife is Pop's wife died. Um
and it gives us a chance to kind of pause
the quiet Leonard conversation. But the quaid Leonard thing seems
to have readd you know. Some people say, look, they
still have a good relationship. This is about Pop going
after his people more than Pop going after Kauai. What's
your read on it. I think Kauai has a good
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relationship with some of the players, um that he's still
you know. I think the report Polo saw said some
players he doesn't respond to for months. Others he does. UM.
I think he's he's fine with some of the players
DeSante Murray, I think Danny Green, um, Rudy Gay Um.
But others, you know, maybe not. I'm not sure about that.
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As far as Pop and Kauai, you know, Pop's always
been able to dig get players, um and coach players
and yell at players, and and the Tim Duncan's and
the David Robinson's and the Tony Parker's and Genobi's they
would take it. I think Kauai and I think a
lot of players the day, but Kauai is a different animal.
Um And I don't know that the little digs or
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even if they're just perceived. Did that Pop has taken
at Kauai. I don't know if if Kauai is gonna
get over that now, maybe he will. I'm literally I
mean it when I say I don't know, I mean
I think that Kauai doesn't like it, and I think
Popping feels like I'm always able to smooth it over.
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We gotta put my arm around it. Hey man, I
was just doing that to you know, get you fired up,
try to get you back if the players going whatever,
I don't know if it's gonna work with Kauai. It may,
but it may not. And that's where this will come
to a head. And that's where it really be a
problem for the Spurst. I don't know that they've fully said, yo,
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we gotta trade him. Let's get what we can. They
understand how great a fatality is. There are some people
that believe they will still offer him the super Max
and try to make it work. And if it doesn't
work and he signs that deal, then you control the
trade market. You can trade him you want, because he's
got four years left on his deal, and whoever trades
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for him has a security of him staying. If he's
traded this summer, he dicks takes the terms. You can't
send him somewhere he doesn't want to go, and as
a one year rental, you're not gonna get a lot
of value for that. So that's what That's all that
has to be considered. Uh, from the Spurs standpoint in
terms of what they're going to do with Kauai. Look,
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Boston can certainly put together a great offer. The Lakers
can to Clippers are gonna go after him hard. Um.
I do think there's a part of Kauai from talking
to some people that would like to be you know,
he's from the l A area that so both of
those organizations are well run. Now you've got Jerry West
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with the Clippers and you know Magic and Plinka with
the Lakers. So um, it's this will all come to
a hand where we see whether or not the Spurs
offer him that Super Max and whether or not he
signs it. Chris Brussard, NBA inside of Fox Sports One.
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UH Series XM Channel eight four. It is eighty four, right,
there's the eighty three. I always honestly it's eighty three.
Did I tweet out of any four yesterday? Somebody got
somebody got a huge listenership on eighty four and two
then did nothing to earn it yesterday. Anyway, great show
for you yesterday, equally good show today. I'm I'm super
super excited, super excited. Let me get to what happened
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last night. Uh. First, You're like, look, I don't know,
Greg Popovitch. Well, I've interviewed him. I saw him speak
what was that two weeks ago with the Final Four.
I think he's an incredible coach. I don't like the
way in which he decides to handle the media. I'm
not a huge fan of that um but I mean, like,
look that has all of that aside. I'm a human
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being and I happen to also be a husband. So
when I heard that his wife Aaron passed away yesterday,
I was crestfallen for him. I didn't know she sick,
and I know nothing about his personal life. He keeps
his personal life very, very close to the vest. We'll
get to what I think was at play there with
the interview was just the kind of a classic something
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happens in TV that that that I hope you will understand,
does not in any way reflect negatively up upon I
think Lebron or Ali la force at all. But it's
one of those things that we have a tendency to do,
and I don't know why we do it. We also
have a tendency to be results oriented. And because Lebron
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James was so good scoring the first what thirteen points,
because he is statistically and physically and literally dominantly. Like
the only thing missing in terms of a Jordan Esque
performance from Lebron James obviously end of game heroics would
have been you know, he took a three late, didn't
make it, you know, a couple of shots late. But
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the only thing missing was like, oh yeah, hey, Lebron
played thirty six holes in the morning and then went
out and played cards with the boys at night. Like
that's the only thing difference between if you didn't grow
up in the Jordan era, that's the only difference was
Jordan would play like eighteen or thirty six, come out,
drop forty, and then go play cards all night in
Atlantic City and then go do it again the next night.
I sure seemed like, but can we just admit that
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as good as Lebron is, the rest of his team
is not close to being uh is not close to
being up to snuff, right, Like, Lebron gives a herculean
performance in the first quarter to give them a lead,
one that they would never relinquish. But they almost did.
(03:18):
They almost did, And you can go a Gottli listen. Uh,
if ifs and butts were candy and nuts a right
to be Christmas every day you get Kyle Corver, who
talked about dealing with tragedy his brother passed away a
couple of weeks ago. Kyle Corver hits four threes, they
start him, they start an offensive lineup, and I'm sitting
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there going like you you can't script a better performance
from lebron right. They they did to him what frankly
the Calves used to do to Michael Jordan. I don't
know how many of you remember the speaking of Jordan's
is Lenny Wilkins was the guy who's like, I'm not
double teaming Jordan's. He's gonna have to go for fifteen
or to beat us, and you know what he doing,
go for fifty. But we're we're talking about the Pacers,
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who I know, Darren Collison led the NBA in three
point shooting. But Collison, Miles Turner, bug Don Bugdanovitch, Thaddy
is young. That's their starting lineup. And of course Victor Oladipo,
who regrets to the mean we had a wide open
three down three in a miscommunication and didn't make it.
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But that's more who Oladipo is. Nine of eighteen, two
of eight and three. All of those things that Lebron
could not have been better, could not have been better,
and they won by three points at home. And oh yeah,
by the way, I don't do we. I don't know
if we have an update yet on on Kevin Love.
I believe X rays were negative, although X rays are negatives,
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but Kevin Love ain't healthy. And as we've seen in
the NBA playoffs, teams make adjustments game to game, and
I'm not sure there is another adjustment outside of going
with an offensive lineup for the Calves. Lebron was asked
after the game about being aggressive. He basically kind of
he gave credit more to Tyler. Take a listen. No,
(05:15):
you said coming into this game that you wanted to
be more assertive. Did you think it was gonna take
a forty six point effort to uh lead your team
to victory. Um. I didn't come into the game saying
I want to be a sertive coach, Lou said. I
never said sad. I'm gonna play my game, and I
did that tonight. I made some shots early, gone to
a rhythm, you know. Defensively, I wanted to be in tune.
I want to try to get my guys involved as well.
But I mean, I don't. I just don't. I don't
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come into game saying I'm gonna try to do this,
I'm gonna do that. It just kind of happens to
follow the game. I played a game the right way,
and that's just the result of it. So yeah, that
sounds great, But the truth is that here's a guy
who uh, here's a guy who he came in, he
was locked in, he was ready, and the Pacers looked,
there's foul trouble. I mean, Victor Oladipo gets two early fouls,
three fouls in the first half, barely plays the first quarter,
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and and Lebron just kind of takes over the game.
So he can say that he didn't come in with
the mindset of being more assertive, but actions not worth right.
His actions prove otherwise. So I look, I'm still struggling
to to say that the Pacers are gonna win this series.
But it continues to look exactly like I thought it
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would look. Last year, it took them third team games
to get to the NBA Finals. This year, it does
not feel like it will if they get there, Remember,
Toronto is waiting for him, and they may they may
have Lebron and Toronto does not. Toronto may always come
up short, but that thing ain't going four games and
then we'll see who they play in these Eastern Conference finals.
But if it's the seventies sixers with embiid back, there's
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some mismatches that aren't going that are uncurable for the Calves,
even if they have Lebron, who's the ultimate elexer. Lebron
is great his team whatever the opposite of great is wow,
just just a litany of flaws on that team. He
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couldn't have played better. They're at home. Oladipo infoul trouble
early in the game and they won by three points. Um.
Then there was the back and forth between him and
Ali La Force. We've since seen video and both sides
have admitted that Ali gave the heads up. Hey, I'm
(07:26):
gonna ask you about Pop's wife? Are you okay commenting
on it? Here's the Q and A on uh Care
of Turner Sports from During this game, we got the
really devastating news The Spurs announced that Aaron coach Popovich's
wife officially passed away. I know you're close with Pop,
Any words or thoughts you'd like to share with him?
(07:48):
Pop fans, Pop Um, that's that's such a tragedy, and um,
you know my best wishes goals out. It's a pop
in his family. I know that's that's devastating news. And um,
I mean the NBA family, we all sit together. I
know we could read every night was something like this happens,
if it was everything in perspective. So you know, I'll
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send my I'll sell my my my well wishes and
my prayers up to the heavens above. I know the
man above never makes a mistake, even when you sometimes
have to um, ags why. But that's just terrible news.
And I best of luck the popman and then everybody
in San Antonio, the whole Spurs family. That's all I
can say. Allie, Yeah, I don't I look, I don't
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put it on Alley because I don't think you know,
Ali's not asking that question lest somebody says you should
ask him that question. And I we just do this
in TV, like we got the raw emotion and we
got him kind of working out his answer on the fly,
and I guess it becomes good TV. I just they're
(08:51):
just such a like you just got done playing a
game you lost by three you won by three points.
You survive. You could not have played better. You got
Kevin love her his thumb, You got the miscommunication out
of a time out where Oladipo mrs MS is an
open three. You kind of survive ux hail. There's a
million things you could get to. And somebody up in
(09:12):
Turner Sports was like, hey, we should really ask him
about Greg Popovitch's wife dying. I don't know, I don't know.
I guess we got to the Lord of Lebron is
a thoughtful human being, and uh that that Ali's really
good at her job, that she can smart smart enough,
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she's smart enough and thoughtful enough to give him the
heads up so that if he didn't want to touch it,
he didn't have to ask it. But this is like,
this is a TV thing with me, This is a
you gotta make sure you ask him about Pop's wife.
You're like, why you know, he was just playing a game.
I don't um I hit as many shots as the
(09:57):
big three from Oklahoma City did in the fourth quarter
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Radio app. The story that came out earlier today was
the Browns are considering, actually considering taking not one, but
two quarterbacks. That's that's that's the report, and it has
(11:02):
caused NFL fans to an NFL pundance to laugh at it,
and it's it's actually a really interesting idea, one that
has samerit this from the Ringer this draft season, particularly
over the last six weeks. I've asked multiple members of
the Cleveland Browns organization, which owns the number one, number
(11:24):
four picks in addition to three second rounders. What I
thought would be a very stupid question. Have you considered
ignoring the norms and drafting two quarterbacks high in the draft?
And the answer is yes. People I asked have thought
about it, discussed it, and investigated it. This is not
to say, well, happen, but the Browns have considered it.
In fact, one person I spoke with who could immediately
rattle off every previous instance of teams drafting two passers
(11:48):
high in the draft, said he'd done prep work on
the idea. I mean, look, r G three was drafted
in the first round, even though the Washington Redskins moved
mountains in or to move up and trade with the St.
Louis Rams to get the draft pick. They also drafted
Kirk Cousins in that fourth round, same draft. And remember,
(12:13):
none of this says it's going to happen. But have
they considered it? And the answer is yes. At some
point it's about acquiring assets, and there's also a hit
rate to it. Now, you can't play both quarterbacks at once,
and of course they have Tyrod Taylor making sixteen million dollars,
(12:33):
but what's to say that you couldn't have both quarterbacks
backing up Tyrod Taylor and have them practice and see
which one do you alike and which one do you
not like? Which is which is better? Right? Put to
put two dogs in a ring and throw on a
porch shop and see who comes out with a full stomach,
who comes out with an empty stomach. That's so interesting.
(12:58):
I was driving down the street the other day and
my son said, Dad, he's nine, Dad, there's two gas
stations right across from each other. That's got to be
the dumbest idea ever. And I tried to explain away, well,
you know, listen, son, it keeps the prices a little
(13:19):
bit down because it had to be competitive. And remember
that just because we're both driving on the right hand
side of the street. And he's like, they're both on
the right hand side street. Well, it's like we look
the cross street. If you're going this way, you might
hit this one. You go that way that one. And
I was like, and he's like, that's just dumb. Don't
they split up the number of cars that you could
get there? And I was like, well, some of it
has to do with zoning. But we do we we
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do actually do this, We do actually have survival of
the fittest. The one difference is that only one quarterback
can play. Of course, I mean there is a kid
at Louisville who some people think could play another position
and could be unbelievable. And it is a position that's
got about a hit, right, And if you're the Browns,
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you've been snake bitten before. Do you go and get
to seeing as one might flame out but the other
might be the real deal. But more than anything, I
don't think people have come to understand what the word
considered mean investigated me. You're not doing your job if
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you don't consider every different angle and possibility. It's it's
so much like a chess game. Rama's do you play
chess at all? I do not, And I've never learned
how to play chess, So that's quite interesting. On my
end um music, do you play chess? Ryan Music? You
play chess? I wouldn't say I actively play chess, but
(14:49):
I do know how and will from time to time. Yeah.
And and the thing about chess, and I would say
there are other games like this. I don't think as
much with with checkers wh chess because the pieces can
move in such different directions than one another. The thing
about chess. Which is fascinating is when you you know,
you take your hand off that chess piece after you
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move it, all bets are off, right, there's no reneging
on it, there's no That's the end of the turn, right,
that's the end of the turn. But you have to
look at all possible options. You have to look at
every other every other piece on the board, because every
piece on the board is affected by your move, yours
and your opponents. And some of this is about you know,
(15:33):
some of chess is about processing. You know, if you
play that speed chest, you're having to process this thing,
you know, uh, processing more quickly. But you have to
consider every possible move. Well, oh hey, hey, hold on,
you don't use your queen in the third move of
(15:54):
a game of chess. Now, what do you say is
you don't traditionally move your queen. Doesn't mean you move
your queen. But you look at if I move my
queen here, how does this affect everything else? I? Oh? Yeah,
By the way, what's to say that you don't draft one?
Hold on to him? Somebody has a quarterback go down,
and then all of a sudden you can get more
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first round picks for your first round pick. The Denver
Broncos are actively shopping number five because people think they'll
be the fourth quarterback still hanging around at five. Let's
just say the Cleveland Browns are like, we'll take them both,
and oh yeah, by the way, high draft picks does
not necessarily mean first round. They could take one that
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that somebody that falls to the second round. I wouldn't
advise them to do it because they have Tyrod Taylor.
I wouldn't advise them to do it because it's going
to create a culture of one to which those guys
aren't gonna work together. It just doesn't work that way.
Human nature takes over. We talked about communism, I think
a little bit yesterday light right, Like, on paper, communisms
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sounds like a great idea. What I can just go
work and not have to worry about anything else, and
everybody makes about the same and everybody gets taken care
of the same, and I can just go do my
job and be awesome my job. The problem is human nature.
It's like, hey, I'm better at what I'm doing that
he is. What I'm doing is more important, or what
I'm doing is more profitable. I should be making more money.
Human nature takes over. That's why communism works on paper,
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doesn't work in reality. But you at least study it
and think about it and try and just just like
completely free capitalism doesn't work right And oh yeah, by
the way, if you're going to investigate it, you've got
to investigate the fact that the Washington Redskins, though on
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paper it worked right, on paper, they got a rookie
of the year who led them to the playoffs, and
their fallback was a franchise caliber quarterback. On paper, it worked.
The reality of it was that the that the top
pick was so popular with the owner at times with
the fans, that he could never become popular in the
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locker room and with the coaching staff. Meanwhile, the fourth
round pick always felt like he was the fourth round pick,
treated like he was the fourth round pick. Hell, they
couldn't even pronounce his name. So even when you elevated
him to starting quarterback and gave him twenty plus million
dollars guaranteed as a franchise taggi for two years, he
was still pissed. Of course, it won't work, And of
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course it's a it's a it's an idea that you're
going to pass on but that doesn't mean you shouldn't
investigate the possibility of an idea, especially with the weighted
nature of the particular position in question in terms of value.
Just because it's the Browns doesn't make it a bad idea,
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and just because you don't want to do it doesn't
make it a bad idea. What's a bad idea is
not investigating every idea and seeing how how it looks
on the chessboard. Just don't pull that hand off the move.
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You know. The Patriots said the same thing. Hey, we
got the we have two first round picks. We're thinking
about taking tw first round clers like genius. Huh that
I mean genius right, Belichick doesn't know which one he likes.
He takes them both late first rounders genius the Cleveland Browns.
Investigating what we're thinking of we're thinking about it like idiots.
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This is as deep a running back class as many
people can remember. Uh is Daris Jus of l s
U there Sonny Michelle and Nick Chubb from Georgia carry
on Johnson from Auburn rashand Penny as the sand New
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State kid, Royce Freeman really talented of Oregon, n C
States and I'm Hay. And then of course there's say
Kwan Barkley, but a guy who many people believe is
as talented as any of them, including sake on Barkley's
Ronald Jones a second. He had fifteen or fifteen yards rushing,
nineteen touchdowns in two thousand and seventeen. Where's the third
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team All American? Um? And he's gonna wait to hear
when his name is called. And I'm I'm I'm fascinated
by Ronald Jones of USC joint just on the Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, you pulled your
hamstring at the combine. I'm fascinated by the You know, look,
all you do is you the combine. You don't necessarily
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need it to run your forty time there, but you
do it so you show that you you're not scared.
You always improve on it on your pro day. What's
that like to to work on your body, to work
on you know, your start, to work on your stride
and everything it takes to run a grade forty? Want
to play your hammy. Yeah, I mean it was questioning
for me. You know, started at an exos and after
(21:00):
the comboint, I went to the GSP how in Atlanta
working with coach Williams, and yeah, you know that definitely
got me right, you know, doing the software therapy and
this just grinding, you know, getting back like you said,
because I had like three weeks in between the combine
is in my protoy and I still wasn't ready by then,
and so I had to have the second prodoy while
I ran it be four four yeah, and so then
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then then you put up before four and you're nodding
your head. Um, how much does that change things in
terms of what your agent tells you, what teams are
telling you. Once you finally put up that number, Um, yeah, definitely,
you know, gave them, you know, a benchmark. You know,
they knew that I was, you know, a speed guy,
you know primarily, so it was good just to have
that number, you know, better than the four six at
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the combine. But yeah, it's definitely been frustrating. Sam Sam
Sam flu Back made a special tray ever making a
big deal, but the Sam flu Back just to throw
to you at your combine. What was the conversation like,
was like, was this a big thing? Did you reach
out to him? Did he actively knew? Like how did
it happen that that Sam was somewhere else? I think
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he's visiting Cleveland and he came back to take me
through that process. Yeah, So it was like it was
real last minute and I hadn't you know, I texted
him and stuff, but my agent, uh reached out to
his agent to make sure and make sure that he
was gonna be in and tum all that flight. So
they picked him up literally that morning and he was
there seven o'clock, you know, as if it was his workout.
So that's just you know, credit to him and how
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much he cares about his teammates and the relationship that
we have. Is that the real Sam Donald? I mean
sometimes we as media members, we can get snowed by guys, right,
we can get guys who when the red lights on
that one guy and then when the with the fellas
that by themselves they're different guy. Is that what he's
really like? Yeah, that that's that's the real film. Mean, Uh,
you know, you know he's a leader on the team
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and always has been. He's competitor, and yeah, I mean
he'll do anything for us, like you know he did
there uh stug out the show Fox Sports Radio. Are
you tired of talking about him? Though? Like like, hey,
can we talk about me? Because I'm gonna be drafted
high too, you know. I mean that's that's why you know,
I don't even ship you know, if he's gonna be
the number one pick, you know, the best quarterback in
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the draft, you know, in my opinion, and we compliment
each other. You know, he saved me in games and
there are times where I were in the ball you know,
uh the clock out and stuff like that. So yeah,
that's that's that's my dogs for life. Oh I I understand.
So do you got any inside information for us? Like,
do you know do we we can do the breaking
news thing that he's going to going overall? Yeah, I
mean I don't know any more than than what you
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guys know, because I don't even know whe I'm going yet.
So uh yeah, we're just gonna have to wait and see.
That night. I'll be watching the Front and Center because
uh yeah, he'll be in Texas. Uh yeah, I think
he's going to the dress. That would be good. Um, Okay,
So as far as where you're going, how important is
it where you go and how important is it how
high you go, because we've even Rosen's caught caught some
(23:48):
heat because he's like looking at him pertell high, Igo,
It's more about fit for you personally. What what's the
level of importance. Yeah, you know, you definitely want to
go as high as possible, you know, not believe I
have first round talent and all that, so uh, you know,
just just comes down to the team and you know,
what they believe they need and top in with Boston.
So yeah, I guess you know, I can kind of
agree with that. It's more so to fit, not necessarily
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the position all the song. So when you're meeting with teams,
has anybody brought up something You're like, damn you you
knew about that? Oh uh yeah, you know, they just
bring up you know, injury history and then uh, there
was a situation where you know, I didn't travel with
the team for the cow game, so that you know,
they just asked you about that. But yeah, I didn't
(24:31):
get too many crazy questions like some other guys. I
don't even necessarily mean crazy questions, just the idea of
the thoroughness of the researcher's like damn, I yeah, yes,
my junior year in high school. Yes I dated China.
Yes you got me. Okay, I'm sorry I did anything
like that. Yeah, it was not like that too crazy. Uh,
they just they didn't know about you know how it
(24:53):
was referred to the Sam Sampson with my hair and
cutting the dreads. You know, they kept asking me, you know,
why you cut your dread line stuff like that. But uh, yeah,
it was nothing too too deep that they dug up.
How important in their evaluation is you know, like I
think all of us, all of us think, well, you know,
look when Ronald Jones gets the ball, you know he
(25:13):
handing the ball, it's lightning in a bottle, right, Plus
you can catch the football as well. But how important
when when you sit down with them, how important is
their evaluation of you as a as a pass blocker? Yeah,
it's very important, you know, like visiting with these teams.
You know, obviously the quarterback is you know, the centerpiece
of the whole franchise. So you know, they asked me
about that. You know, I tell them, you know, I'm
(25:33):
still adding weight and you can always use uh work
with technique and stuff like that. So uh yeah, I
think they're pretty competent, you know, in that aspect. And
whoever picks me up, you know, I'll be willing to
improving that area as well. Ronald Jones joining us in
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's
in your home state of Texas. You're from McKinney, Texas.
You're going home, You're stay in so Cat. What are
you doing for the draft? Oh? Yeah, you know, I'm
(25:55):
gonna be in Texas. Man. Uh, I'm gonna have a
party of us barbecue my friend, family's friend day on
that place. So I'll just have a small gathering with
a friendly and for do you wait, you want to
wait Hudson's barbecue. That was yeah, Hudson's barbecuis and McKinney
actually so uh. But I'll actually be at the first
Goal location that night. But yet a doubt. The draft
(26:15):
is in Allington about thirty minutes away. No, no, I
I know, I know, I know Texas well enough. People
giving you a shout out, beeping you on your horn,
Ronald Jones, Jus and the Dug guys, Well you're not
keeping it, really, You're not going to the hometown, said
you're going to Friscale. Well, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be
the first muney they got. Okay, so you're so are
you going ribs? Are you going to pull pork? Are
(26:35):
you going chicken? You're gonna yeah? Okay? And and how
now is there brisket when you when they cut it out?
But it's not brown inside right, like it's tender and
it's red. Oh yeah, it's tender. Yeah, it's it's it's
real greasy. Uh. And then the Hallapeeno shutter slausses. Do
you put barbecue sauce on it? You just go straight meat?
(26:57):
Oh yeah, barbecue on that. They got hot and spicy,
so you know, I put that on the sandwich two
weeks down and something like that. Some some Texas some
Texas toast on the side to to mop it all up.
I heard you're a sweet sauce guy, though, I just
this is all the research I've been doing. They said
he doesn't really like the hot, spicy sauce. He likes
the sweet sauce. True or not true? Uh? Yeah, I
(27:19):
said that's true. You know I like barbecue, uh, wings
and stuff. You know, yeah, it just depends on the day.
Ronald Ronald Joe jonesaphs on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Tradio. It's a day to which look, anybody
who grows up playing a sport, dreams of having their
name called obviously, dreams scoring your first touchdown, playing the
Super Bowl, playing pro Ball, all those other things. When
(27:41):
you close your eyes and you and you're getting close
to being able to feel it, what's the What team
do you do you when you close your eyes and
you and you think, what team do you think about? Oh? Yeah,
that's all I mean, Yeah, I grew up with you know,
you know whatever, seeing you and give it an opportunity.
That's you know, the values we don't have a way
(28:05):
to see. All right, and well listen, safe travels to McKinney, Texas.
Really appreciate you joined us and best of luck next
Thursday or Friday or whenever you're selected. We know you
put in some work in the Nation Football League. Appreciate
you join us on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, pleasures mind,
Ronald Jones join us and the Doug Gottlip Show. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show
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Earlier today, Colin Calherd had this to say about Baker Mayfield,
Remember Baker Mayfield. It was quoted in Sports Illustrated, saying,
I didn't look at their playbook who was when he
(28:46):
met with the Chargers as much as I should have.
It could have gone a little bit better. But at
the same time, I'm prioritizing which playbooks I'm going to learn.
No offense to them, but I've got a lot of
my play here's Colin. First of all, everything is something,
Everything is something. I now have a guy who has
grabbed his crotch on the sidelines, planted a flag at
Ohio State's logo, arrested, public intoxication, tackled by police, didn't
(29:12):
bother studying a Charger playbook. Shirtless Sports Illustrated by the
way TCU Gary Patterson, a very respected coach, called out
his dad once said his dad is arrogant and full
of himself. Apple Tree fall, far from it. You've heard
the story. Not saying any of this stuff is criminal,
not saying he's a bad person, But when your college
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football season ends and you're a top quarterback and you're
gonna get drafted. You have a tiny little window three
months to behave. Who's the quarterback we've heard nothing from.
Not a peep, Sam Donald, not a peep. It's not
posing with his shirt off every interview he aces his
pro day. He wanted to throw in the rain. Couldn't
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agree more within and look, there's there's a couple of
different parts to it. Let's first start with the comparison part,
because it is you're not comparing to no. One. You're
not comparing two adults, and you know you're comparing to
other potential draftees, right, you just are Lamar Jackson. There's
(30:17):
been issues getting him on the phone, get him in
for workouts. Mom is the agent doesn't want to run
a forty Um. Again, that is not the wilful and
that's not the arrogance of a Mayfield. But it is
something Josh Rosen with all of the different comments, some
which can be taken out of context, some which we
(30:37):
have a tough time filtering and understanding, some to which
it's just like, why does even cond of need to
go there? Um, we haven't heard much from Josh Allen,
but there hasn't been anything to dispel any of the
sense that he's just not accurate, even if you can
throw it a mile. And then there's Sam Donald, right,
Sam Donald is the guy who we had Ronald Jones on,
(30:59):
Like Sam Donald flew back early to throw for somebody
else at their pro day. Sam Donald does every right thing,
says every right thing. Now, let's just discussed discuss Mayfield.
It's not just the bravado by which he plays. And
I don't in and in and of itself, I don't
(31:19):
care about the public in talks. But there is uh,
there's enough little things there, and then there's this. Look,
here's how it works in any interview, any interview. Ton
kalas Go is the general manager of the San Diego Chargers.
He used to be with the Indianapolis Sorry with the
(31:39):
l A Chargers. He he used to be with the
Indianapolis Colts. You don't think he knows everybody around the league.
You don't think these guys talk. You don't think that
the fact that this story got out a guy who's
as well liked, wells respected, like, Look, I have a meeting,
I take my time out to to to really talk
to you because they're looking at some point for the
replacement of Philip Rivers, a guy who's a franchise quarterback.
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And the least you could do is research a little bit. Alright.
We we didn't ask you to quote chapter in verse
every different part of Charger lore. We asked you to
prepare the same way to prepare for any anything. And
then when you factor in he's small, he's not as
athletic as Russell Wilson, doesn't have strong enough farm. He's
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not Drew Brees. He was a two time walk on.
He does he does carry adrito bag of chips on
his shoulder. Like look. I think it's a super a
bad look, and I think he's gonna be drafted. He's
it's gonna be the Peter Principal. It's gonna be elevated
above the level of his aptitude. Fox Sports Radio has
(32:43):
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in Chris Broussard from Fox Sports Radio. On the weekends,
Fox Sports One, all our different TV over different TV entities.
Um Lebron goes crazy last night and they still only
(33:04):
win by three. Should we be really concerned even though
the Calves even out the series of one game piece. Well,
I think what it shows is that he's going to
need his teammates to step up. And I think that's
why you don't see Lebron James play like that more often.
You know, he could probably do that three out of
(33:24):
every four or five games, and and certainly in an
early round series if he wanted. But he's always believed
that we're better off if I'm getting thirty ish in
terms of points and nine or ten assists and somebody
else that's chipping in with twenty or something like that.
Another guy hits seventeen or fifteen. So um, I think
(33:45):
that that's why the game was close, So that that's
not how Lebron James is going to play every night. Um.
So the Lauren, the thing that the Calves need to
have is just another few play be able to step
up and deliver. Obviously, Kevin Love has not played up
to what you expect from a second option all Star. Um.
(34:10):
They didn't get him enough looks in the first game
obviously at the hand injury in game two, but they're
gonna need, you know, and what you sall with Tyed
lou yesterday, he went to the old horses that have
been there before, Kyle Corver j R. Smiths, They start
and then you know, you look at Ridey Hood, Jordan Clarkson.
(34:30):
Their minutes were a lot lower than they have been,
and so he was like, look, I'm gonna go with
the guys that have been there, but I think they're
gonna need some of those young guys to step up
and give them some good games to get out of
this series. I still still think they win it, but
I think it's gonna be a tough one. I think
it could be a tough six, maybe even seven games.
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Christophers are joining us on the Doug Otlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Feels like in Bead's gonna play tonight.
Don't if you saw that they moved him from doubtful
to probable with some internal uh injury report, like to feel.
It feels like they tried to steal the other game
at home to rest him, and now they're like, all right,
we gotta play him, even if they don't really want
you tonight. Yeah. I don't know if that's him just
(35:12):
really pushing and pushing and pushing. Look I would err
on the side of caution if i'm them, If he's
ready and the doctors are saying he's fine, by all means,
play him because this is obviously a pivotal game. But
if there's any doubt, and if the extra couple of
days would help you, I would see him until game four.
Number one. You know, it's more about the future than
(35:35):
the present, and this is a guy that is injury prone.
It's his second hit. He's taken to that. I you know,
when he was at Kansas, he got hit in the
left eye, wore goggles in the next game. It wasn't
this serious, but still you just want to be over
cautious with him. And they could potentially win this game
without him. Um, they obviously did that in game one.
(35:58):
If you lose, you're in a two one hole. But
that's not an insurmountable deficit against the Miami Heat, especially
when you're getting them be back. So I would air
on the side of caution. Uh, And I would think
that's what they're going to do. So if he's out
there tonight, I assume that means you know, he's he's
all good and ready to go. How happy should Laker
(36:19):
fans be at what happened with Oklahoma City last night? Well, uh,
they they should like that. Look, I think Paul George
unless okay See, you know, have some great running the playoffs,
and I think that's a possibility. Um, I think they
win this series. This is what you have. I believe
you have a a team that doesn't have nearly as
(36:42):
much talent, but it's very well coached and execute and
plays smart basketball. And they do have one great athlete
in in uh Donovan Mitchell. And then you have a
team that's wildly talented, are very talented, but I don't
think they're very well coached and don't play smart basketball.
(37:03):
And so you're which one is going to win out
in this series? I think okay See will win out.
And I tell you what, I think they can make
it tough on the Houston Rockets in the next round
if they won that second round somehow, I wonder if
that would convince Paul George to stay another year. Um. Look,
(37:24):
I think the eyes on favorite is clearly the Lakers. Although,
and I actually like your opinion on this, I think
the best basketball fit for Paul George and three agency
man go to Philly. Oh I think he'd be perfect
with Ben Simmons and Joe L m B. You don't
(37:45):
think you'd be a great fit there, No, I think
I think I think he I think he would. But
it's like, why would you now you're just moving around
chess piece, Like, well, stay in Oklahoma City. You got
Russell Westbury really well, they're they're completely different types of
point guard. No, I agree in terms of Ben Simmons diaming,
you up and and you create, you know, you get
(38:06):
shots off the space that they need and and you
can guard a couple of positions. I mean, the whole
thing is to is the the chance to come and
play home. I play at home otherwise better sayance of
being in the East and winning. You know, you know,
we all know the East as an easier road to
the finals. Um, but yeah, obviously wants to. I think
(38:30):
that changes with Boston when Boston gets healthy. Umill think
Philly is a better team going not not maybe not
right now, but next year I think Philly would be
the favorite. I mean, we'll see what Lebron James does,
but if he leaves, I think Philly would be the
favorite in the East. Obviously, everybody's reacting to the to
(38:50):
the news that Pop's wife is Pop's wife died. Um
and it gives us a chance to kind of pause
the quiet Leonard conversation. But the quaid Leonard thing seems
to have readd you know. Some people say, look, they
still have a good relationship. This is about Pop going
after his people more than Pop going after Kauai. What's
your read on it. I think Kauai has a good
(39:12):
relationship with some of the players, um that he's still
you know. I think the report Polo saw said some
players he doesn't respond to for months. Others he does. UM.
I think he's he's fine with some of the players
DeSante Murray, I think Danny Green, um, Rudy Gay Um.
But others, you know, maybe not. I'm not sure about that.
(39:34):
As far as Pop and Kauai, you know, Pop's always
been able to dig get players, um and coach players
and yell at players, and and the Tim Duncan's and
the David Robinson's and the Tony Parker's and Genobi's they
would take it. I think Kauai and I think a
lot of players the day, but Kauai is a different animal.
Um And I don't know that the little digs or
(39:58):
even if they're just perceived. Did that Pop has taken
at Kauai. I don't know if if Kauai is gonna
get over that now, maybe he will. I'm literally I
mean it when I say I don't know, I mean
I think that Kauai doesn't like it, and I think
Popping feels like I'm always able to smooth it over.
(40:21):
We gotta put my arm around it. Hey man, I
was just doing that to you know, get you fired up,
try to get you back if the players going whatever,
I don't know if it's gonna work with Kauai. It may,
but it may not. And that's where this will come
to a head. And that's where it really be a
problem for the Spurst. I don't know that they've fully said, yo,
(40:41):
we gotta trade him. Let's get what we can. They
understand how great a fatality is. There are some people
that believe they will still offer him the super Max
and try to make it work. And if it doesn't
work and he signs that deal, then you control the
trade market. You can trade him you want, because he's
got four years left on his deal, and whoever trades
(41:03):
for him has a security of him staying. If he's
traded this summer, he dicks takes the terms. You can't
send him somewhere he doesn't want to go, and as
a one year rental, you're not gonna get a lot
of value for that. So that's what That's all that
has to be considered. Uh, from the Spurs standpoint in
terms of what they're going to do with Kauai. Look,
(41:26):
Boston can certainly put together a great offer. The Lakers
can to Clippers are gonna go after him hard. Um.
I do think there's a part of Kauai from talking
to some people that would like to be you know,
he's from the l A area that so both of
those organizations are well run. Now you've got Jerry West
(41:47):
with the Clippers and you know Magic and Plinka with
the Lakers. So um, it's this will all come to
a hand where we see whether or not the Spurs
offer him that Super Max and whether or not he
signs it. Chris Brussard, NBA inside of Fox Sports One.
You can hear them right here on Fox Sports Radio
Sunday's six nine pm Eastern Time with our guy Rob Parker. Brude,
(42:08):
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