May 2, 2018 • 40 mins
Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox fill in for Doug. They discuss the Raptors falling apart at the end of the game in their loss to the Cavaliers and why they just can't get past LeBron James. They also think it's time for Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger to stop trying to be someone he's not. Giants F Landon Collins joins the show to talk about his new teammate Saquon Barkley and how they plan to improve after a disappointing 2017 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the dun gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio Boom, and there is John Ramos
on this Wednesday. I tweeted on Twitter because that's where
you tweet guys that b k R. We're gonna be
with you the rest of the week. Okay, I'm sorry,
I'm just letting the cat out of the bag, and
I said, tell us what you want. Got a lot
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of the John Ramo Show, which obviously is a given
on today's program. But jonas you should know, we did
have a request for John in the John a segment
that we've only done once here on Fox Sports Radio.
But it was enough to leave someone wanting more. So
maybe sometime in these next three days we will bring
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John and the John back. Why that is the most
stunning development of all time, because I think that we
all universally agreed that well, and I'll take blame for that.
That was my idea and it we bombed. I was
that was an awful, awful idea that we thought was
gonna go a lot different. It was not John's fault.
What I the idea I thought in my head was
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completely different from how it played out, and and just
a total whiff job by me terrible. It didn't with
if somebody wanted it. Roy Combs says, I want more
John and the John, so you could get some of
that later this week. Are you up for a John?
I think so always, thank you. Yes, it's always good
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to revisit something that bombed. But yet, see if we
can grab some lightning in a bottle. It's a new audience.
Maybe that maybe this audience will like it better than
the last one. You never no, speaking of bombing, the
Raptors bombed their first opportunity. The narrative about them, they did.
They it was a bad night for Toronto. When you
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say they only lost by one, they only lost by
one point. Jonas the narrative that we heard going in heck,
it's not even going into this playoff series. No one
was picking to Tonto to come out of the East
and go to the NBA Finals. They were the number
one seed, obviously had the best record in the East.
That that's the case, they had an opportunity to change
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their change. The narrative had a little trouble with the Wizards,
but ended up winning a Game six on the road,
which hey, I give him credit for doing that. They
knocked Washington out a team that was probably better than
their eight seed, considering they had John wallback. But now
you've got the Cavaliers coming in where people still I
don't think you have a full read on who the
Cavaliers are and what they are. And the Toronto Raptors
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had the ability last night to change the narrative that
they were going to be the team to mess within
the Eastern Conference, and when it came down to it,
they failed miserably. Everybody's got and I've talked about this before,
everybody's got this piece of furniture in their house that
they always bang their knee on. Oh yes, every everybody's
got that in their house. And you know exactly what
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piece of furniture it is. Every time you round the
corner and you're in a hurry for whatever reason, and
it doesn't matter, It does not matter at all how
many times you try and avoid it, how many times
like there's just every time you around the yeah, you're
gonna have gonna bang your knee on it. It's a
terrible feeling. There's something at the producer's desk over there.
There's this little angled thing for us for us people
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taller than six ft. Ryan Music and myself, we bang
our knees on that at least three times a year,
and it is the most horrifying pain that you shrink
up as a human being. That is the Cavaliers to
the Toronto Rafts organization, they continue to bang their knee
on that piece of furniture and they're never able to
avoid it. And you knew late in that game. Watching
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the game, you knew Toronto was going to find a
way to lose. They had no confidence. They were leaking
confidence on the basketball court. They were losing all confidence
that they had going into that game, a game that
they should have won, that they had a lead early.
You knew they were going to butcher that lead. Not
only did they give up the lead the Cavaliers, I
mean the Cavaliers did make some shots Jonas that that
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kept them in the game late, But it was how
it all played out. If you were to say Jonas
at the start of the series, who is going to
take the final shot for the Toronto Raptors when the
game counts the most, I think we would say Tomar
de Rosen. I think that would be a fair assessment.
And if it's not Tamar de Rosen. Then you would
maybe say, hey, what about Kyle Lowry? Okay, yeah, I
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could go with Kyle Lowry. Hey maybe Serge Abaka spotting
up in the corner, right, sure, let's do it. Let's
do it. I don't think many people were saying, let's
let Fred van Vleet launch a three after he missed
most of the first round series with a shoulder injury.
But that's what the Raptors did, Jonas. And not only
did they do it once, they did it twice last
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night on two separate occasions. And this isn't This isn't
Jordan's kicking out to Kur or Jordan kicking out to Paxson.
That's not the case. The Raptors are trying to change
the narrative, and they're passing to a guy that's had
a bum shoulder for the last three weeks that like,
those are the things that you need. DeMar de Rosen
had an opportunity. Do you know who was guarding Tamar
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de Rosen on that last possession in overtime? Tristan freaking Thompson.
You couldn't have asked for a better matchup. So what
does de Rosen do? Dribbles? Right? To the block, the
only place on the court that Tristan Thompson actually has
an advantage defensively against Tamar de Rosen, forcing him to
kick it out to Van Fleet too, again as the
bum shoulder. Tristan Thompson's defense isn't even good at a
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hookah bar uh let alone at an NBA playoff game
when the game's on the line and a lot of
people are relying on you to make a stop, and
I just wonder if at the time, it's like people
that can handle their emotions in those situations are always
better players. All right, that's you do. You're just a
better player if you can handle your emotions in those situations.
It's a difference between uh, great players and not so
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great players in the clutch, they can handle their emotions.
That was so evident because at some point, at some
point while while the game is going and I know
it's fast paced, but great athletes have the ability to
slow the game down at some point, does DeMar de
Rosen even stopped to think, alright, game on the line,
it's slow, mo. I see Tristan Thompson, Oh, this is
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a better shot a twenty six ft for a guy
with one arm all right, let me go ahead and
throw it over here, and let's see. That was there's
no way that had to be options z on on
Dwyane Casey's playbook. That had to be the last possible
thing to where Dwyane Casey when he when you went
out there, said all right, last case scenario, and this
is only if we've got no other choice, throw the
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ball out of bounds, don't give it to Fred van Fleet.
And they still gave it to him, and he couldn't
He couldn't muster up enough to to make the shots.
So that's that right there. The end of that game
was what the Raptors are to the calves. They just
find ways to lose the mentally. I don't know if
they just can't get over that hurdle, but that was
that was the epitome of that series all time. Bard
Rose in the Last Night explained his thinking on passing
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an overtime to Fred van Vleets, who missed that attempt
at a game winner. If we same situation again, make
the same exact past, you know, it's not just me
trusting him, may be single guy on his team, coaching staff,
trust them in the moments. That's why he in the
game late in the game. You know he got a
tough skin. You know he's gonna bounced back, respond respond
from it. But you know still have the most confidence
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in him. You're gonna say that about your teammates, but
that's not the point. The point is is why didn't
you pull up in front of Tristan Thompson. Why didn't
you try to make a move to the basket instead
of running to a dead end at the block, where again,
the Cavaliers don't have any size down there. I mean,
if you're gonna put the ball on the block, give
it to Valancunis and at least at least let him
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try to score since he's taller than ever. It wasn't
about having confidence. Of course he's on the court, but
as he said, he was option Z. They didn't even
look at option A, BC or D on the way
through it. Pull it up drive middle of the lane,
try to draw contact. He went to the worst possible
spot on the floor, erased about ten other options, and
then had to kick it out with the guy with
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the bump shoulder, who yeah, they have and it's maybe
shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.
If that's the situation. And the thing about recapping NBA
Playoff games because of these seven games series, especially the
later it gets, you'll see blowouts and then a team
will come back and they'll blow out the other team.
And you know, it was like the finals a couple
of years ago Calves Warriors that went seven games. You know,
every game was a blowout outside of game seven. So
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you can you can do knee jerk reaction stuff, and
a lot of times we do it and then we
look like fools because then second game is completely different
from what the first game was. This one, though, don't
you kind of get the feeling that was a really
really important loss, Like that was that was really bad.
This is one that's gonna rattle the rest of the series.
It's gonna change the way this series goes. I think
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it was a terrible lossome because it it now is
in their heads. Yes, that's the biggest part about it.
It's now in Toronto's heads. Be sure to catch live
editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Coming up in June. There
was a celebrity softball game that will benefit Tom Coughlin
j Fund. The game is hosted by one of the
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best defenders in the entire NFL, Giant safety Landed Collins. Hey, Land,
and thanks so much for coming on today. Oh yeah,
we are doing well and I've got a I've had
a question for a year and I'm glad that you're
on today that I can finally ask you this. What
the heck was the difference between what you guys did
in twenty six on defense and then to what happened
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last year. Now that you've stepped away from last season
and had some time to think about it, what was
the difference for such a for such an unfortunate turnaround
in your guys sake, where you guys were second in
scoring defense two years ago and then just didn't have
it last year. What were the biggest differences that you
saw from year to year from those two seasons. Um,
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first of all, we had a lot of injuries offense,
so that really caused us a defense to be on
the shold a little bit more than we usually were
in the previous year. And then, um, definitely, we just
we just pushing to make plays and stuff to let
them come to us. We were trying to make something happen. Besides, um,
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let it come back through Landing. If you had to
rank one to three the most obnoxious fan base in
the division, it could go, you know, Philly, it could
go Dallas and then Washington. What order is the most
obnoxious fan base in that division? Uh? That division? The
first one, I gotta be silly, silly, and then after
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that I would have to go with h Washingtons and Wow,
Washington's Urson down. That's surprised. I thought Dallas would be
the other. So, so you're saying that Philly is the
most obnoxious, do you know how bad it's going to
be now that they want a Super Bowl? It was
gonna be ridiculous. We know that. So we have to
go up in there with H. L. High Nut up
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and go play some football and get a get a
win and have to quiet that noise real quick. Let's
let's raise the stakes a little bit with Landon Collins
of the New York Giants joining us. More obnoxious fan
base Eagles or Auburn. Oh no, I'll go Auburn. WHOA interesting?
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Why is it just because of the proximity in the
state of Alabama or what's the reasoning? Correct is in
the state of Alabama two schools. One school is always
ranked higher than the other one and it's the Arm
Bold Arm. But there's like no other. I promise you that,
um and we literally hate each other, hate each other
on the field and the fans like in the NFL
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football players, we play against each other because we're a
competitor at alban and Alabama we hate each other. Okay,
who's the fans and team Latin columns with us here
all pro from the New York Giants. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, Dan Buyer Jonas knocks with us here landon
what do we in the media get most wrong about
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Odell Beckham? You being his teammate, what do we get
wrong the most about him? His lifestyle, the kind of
person is he has, has the biggest heart that anyone
can ever imagine. He loves what he does, plays with passion,
and everybody looks at his passion as childish, but it's
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it's how we all are. I mean, the only thing
that that that kills him because y'all keep everybody keeping
the media keeps the camera on him. When I could
I give a prime example after the Tampa Bay game.
We call the play. I told him, I told ours
in the quality and not to call it. He called
it anyway. I can't to the sideline through my helmet,
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told me I pushed my coach off because he try
to grab him. Push my coach off. And we walked
to the end of the other side of the field,
yelling all kinds of all kinds of stuff. But nobody
sees that. But the camera's always an odelt, so you're
gonna see every expression, every each other that he does.
And that's just the passion of the game that we happened.
How bad we want to win Land in College. Joining
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us here on the Doug got Leaves Show. He's Jonas Knocks,
I'm Dan Buyer. We are in for Doug today. What
did we get wrong about the U and Eli Apple dispute.
I've understood you guys made up that you guys are
now on the same page. But was there anything that
we were missing when you guys were beefing during the season. Um, no,
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it was. It's just really just a misunderstanding between me
a lie because at the end of the day, we
just we just not just myself, all of us dbs
because we the ones that's gonna deal with him every day,
but the ones I see him all the time, we
don't want to be all go to dinner. Most of
the time. It was like we I think people just
thought were actually trying to fight, all right, go at
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each other. It's really just I was trying to be
a big brother Phone, but he wasn't allowing all of
us to be a big brother phone and be that phone.
Was he a cancer or do you wish you took
that statement back? Man? I was just coming out of
surgery when I said that, So yeah, I would definitely
take that back. I would definitely use a different wording.
I just said, he his mind is just somewhere else. Um,
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he's not really focused. Um he has a lot of
uh he had, he had a lot of um in house,
personal reasons of why he's the way he was so. UM.
We see during the NBA playoffs a lot of altercations.
There's never usually ever a fight. Guys are usually john
at each other, kind of getting into each other's face,
and that's just sort of the heightened stakes of playoff basketball.
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But you playing in football and you being a safety
and somebody can that can lower the boom. I don't
know how much you can do nowadays in in these NFL,
in this NFL climate. But what's the most angry you've
ever been on a football field, whether it be in college,
whether it be in high school or the NFL. Which
player got you the most heated that you were looking
to take out the next play the most that man,
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I really didn't have. I never had had a player
really gonna need my skin to make me very huge.
It really just take off on the next play. I
want to do bull rush Mr. Anyone who was team
is that I never never had that problem. Um, A
lot of people will stayed away from me, honestly because
I was a definite player and really hard. Yeah, that's
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and that's like, you guys have an advantage in the NBA.
They can't. It's not like anybody's gonna throw down. But
you guys, the physicality is built into your job. So
if somebody gets under your skin, or if Dez Bryant
shooting his mouth off, you know, if he comes over
the middle, you can lower your helmet, you can lay
the boom. So when you watch the NBA and some
of the physicality in that league, what's your biggest impression
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of it. Ye um, uh, they're not built like us. Honestly, Uh,
it does not mean they they very They're very they're
very competitive. I give ned, but men played men play football.
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Landed College of the New York Giants joining us is
he'll be hosting the celebrity softball game that will benefit
the Tom Coughlin j Fund. The mission of the Tom
Coughlin j Fund used to help families tackle childhood cancer
by providing comprehensive, financially, emotional, and practical support. This game
goes down June nine. You're one of the captains with
former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs. Am I correct in
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saying that this kind of came about from the idea
of a fan. The the license plate guy in the
New York Giants. Did he approach you or how did
this game come about? Well? Actually, yeah, he definitely posted me.
But um, it was at the Pro Bowl. When I
was at the Pro Bow my first year, my first,
my second year, and if in the year and then
in my career, and I want to be always be
other signature depth. So I went off to the sideline
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to gap him off and stuff like that, and he's
like Hey, you ever thought about doing a charity event?
I said, yeah, but I just never really had the
time to sit down and do it because I had
so much going on, especially with the crazy year I
had it was, and then coming off the first year,
I was was like, really just want to focus on
playing football being the best tack can be out. Never
really sat down and I wanted to do it, but
I had if somebody could definitely do it for me,
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help me do it. Pushing in the right direction, Yeah,
he said, bet as all he said. Honestly, he didn't
bring up softball. He didn't say basketball and said kickball,
flag football, any of those things you say. All they
said was that I got it. And then from that
point on he came up to me. We went like
two weeks later, called me up and hey, do a
softball event, and I said, let's do it. And from
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that point on we we took off of it, and
now we're on our second should I be a softball
event and it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be way
better than the first one. Taking place Saturday, June ninth
and Pimono, New York, and you can get tickets at
Landon Collins game dot Com. It should be an amazing
of Hey, you guys have a new running back now
in Kwon Barkley. What does he need to know not
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only about the NFL, but playing in New York and
playing as a member of the Giants. To watch out
for the media definitely definitely one of the biggest ones.
Definitely watch out for the media. But definitely, um, just
um take it all in. The atmosphere is great. You
could definitely learn a lot from this. This, this place,
this organization is city, both cities, New Jersey and New York,
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and it's no place like playing up here. This this marketing,
this this uh, this city, what all it has to
offer is nothing love it not nothing like it, and
just take it all in. Honestly, that's what I would
tell them in the advice I would give him as
multi as probably some other stuff I tell him now
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when I sit down with him one day, But for
that would be the most parts. For right now, how
many times have you picked off at ELI manning and practice?
Honestly because during the doing them, doing training camp, I
get more opportunity, but doing the season I don't really
get too much. So honestly, since I since I've been
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playing with him. Yeah, four four picks not bad man,
not bad? I mean, and now are you gonna what's
what's your goal as far as interceptions as training camp A,
you're going you're gonna try and top that in one
training camper. You just take it one at a time.
I'm just taking it on one at a time. Because
Eli Bradley makes mistakes, I promise you that he rather
makes mistakes when it comes down to practicing and getting
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what he needs to done, getting getting what he needs
to do right. Well, hopefully we'll see Eli doing that
for the next couple of years as well. No fly
zone back in eighteen, I assume you guys, uh yes, absolutely,
and tell Sae Kwon Barkley to stay away from Eli Apple. No,
I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. Total Hey, Eli Apples
a buckey. Can't you know? I'm not, I don't. I
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don't hate dot'im alone. So just having to Landed College again.
The game June nine, Pomona, New York landed Collins game
dot com, the celebrity softball game that will benefit the
Tom Coughlin j Fund. You are a captain of one team,
Brandon Jacobs, the Super Bowl champion captain of another should
be great. We thank you for the time, Landing, and
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UH have a great time in June, and good luck
with everything with the game. I appreciate it. Thank you.
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Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger saying now after these last couple
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of years, jonas of maybe some indecision in the off season,
saying that he expects to play three or five more seasons.
This less than a week after the Steelers used a
third round pick to take Oklahoma State quarterback Mason Rudolph
in the draft. So Ben Roethlisberger, who has said in
previous off seasons, if you wouldn't even know if you
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was going to play next year or that next season,
now is saying that he plans to play three to
five more years for the Black and Gold. Yeah, it
seems like he's made up his mind. I mean, he's
only hinted it retirement a couple of times over the
past couple of years, and now it seems seems like
a very very he's very sure of what his career
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is gonna look like, make up your mind, man, I mean,
what is is this just because they drafted a quarterbacks
so now it's like f him, like I'm not here
to mentor anybody. This is going to turn into far
Vin Rogers. I mean, come on, this is a quarterback
that I don't want to say is not comfortable in
his own skin, Jonas. But he seems to always try
to be something that he's not, and that he's he's
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never himself, and if he is himself, he comes off
as a jerk at times. I mean this if if
you want to take the full circle of Ben Roethlisberger's career.
As we look at these comments, Jonas, we had heard
reports out of Pittsburgh that that even when they were
winning Super Balls, he wasn't well liked in town, Like
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he wasn't the quarterback that the city of Pittsburgh loved,
and that at times he could be aloof maybe a
little standoffish. There were also the allegations that were made
against him with sexual misconduct. All of that surrounded Ben
Roethlisberger in his early years. Something seemed to change midway
through where maybe he warmed up to the media, or
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learned how to talk to the media, or maybe it
was a little bit more genuine. But when you had
seen the comments over these last couple of years, if
I don't know if I'm gonna play again, I don't
know if I'm gonna play again, that seems to be
very Brett farvesh. And what it also does is it
brings out trying to get the fan base to say, Ben,
we don't want you to leave, we don't want you
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to go anywhere, we don't want you to do anything.
Please stay b our quarterback. He's almost fishing for compliments
when he was leaving his status up in the air.
Now he wants to put on the Tom Brady roll
when he feels threatened or thinking that the Steelers may
actually not want manymore. And now he says, well, I
may end up playing the next three or five years.
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He just he can't. It's always got to be something,
or it's always got to be a character for some
sort of story or narrative that wants to pass along.
And it's just getting really old as you watch this. Unratty.
He's also called out his coach and his teammates on
multiple occasions. In fact, I don't remember a season where
he hasn't taken a shot in the media at Mike Tomlin,
which with the way they practice or whatever you want
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to call it. Imagine if that was somebody else a right,
Imagine if Jay Cutler had done that when he was playing,
called out his coach, which he never did, or called
out a teammate, which he never did, despite what anybody
wants to say, how would that have been portrayed. But
with Roethlisberger, you just kind of expected, like he's just
one of those passive, aggressive guys who's going to say
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things through the media. I also heard that he was
upset or kind of uh surprised by the trade of
Martavis Brian and uh, you know what, didn't didn't really
see it. Isn't that the same guy that he called out,
Like he called Martvis Brian out before. He's taken shots
at Martvis Bryant for the way he handled his career
early on. So I just whenever he's one of those
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guys when he starts talking, you just kind of take
it with a grain of salt. Okay, man, all right,
because you can jot down, you can do a timeline,
you can mark these quotes that he gave within the
last twenty four hours, and then six months from now
he's going to say something that's the complete opposite, and
at some point you just go alright, just stop leaving him.
I look at Ben Roethlisberger at his time, and he's
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got a contract that runs through twenty nineteen, where if
you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, now you start to say, if
there's any drop off that you have got in the
next two years that you'll see and twenty nineteen, maybe
you end up making the decision like the green Bay
Packers had to do. I don't think that Ben Roethlisberger
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has the poll that Brett Farve had, and look at
how difficult it was for Brett far but green Bay
ended up having to do it. They had to move on.
Brett Five ends up announcing his retirement in March, so
they've moved down to Aaron Rodgers, and then five wants
to come back, and then it ends up being the
end of the Brett Farve era in Green Bay. I'm
not saying that Ben Roethlisberger is going to announce his
retirement Jonas, but when you are the Pittsburgh Steelers and
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you wanted to write by all your players, but if
he hasn't done right by you, this makes it, in
my mind, a heck of a lot easier for the
Pittsburgh Steelers to move on from Ben Roethlisberger whenever they
would like to, or whenever they would see fit. I mean,
we just had Landon Collins on and we're talking about
Eli Manning, a guy that summoned that building thought last
year was at the end of his rope, that this
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was the end of Eli's career. Maybe they should start
looking forward. Well, if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and you
see Ben Roethlisberger and making those comments, I would say,
guess what makes a little bit easier because this year
we actually tried to plan for something that you were
saying you're planning for your retirement, and now you're gonna
go around and and essentially do us like this. If
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I'm Pittsburgh, I can't wait till the bend. If I'm
a Steelers front office guy, I can't wait for the
Ben Roethlisberger era to be over to not deal with
these Well, although look there's been plenty of time. I mean,
Mike Tomlin, I'm sure he's probably annoyed with it. But
I think he also realized that's what he's a damn
good quarterback. So I I sort of this is sort
of what you have to deal with when you're there.
But this, like everyone talks about how dysfunctional the Patriots
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all of a sudden, all right, like everyone talks about
all the Patriots dysfunction, and Belichick and Brady don't like
each other, as Tom Brady ever called out Bill Belichick
in public. Never once, uh yeah, never, never once has
he gone down that road if it's and now the
media knows when you go to Roethlisberger whether it's an actual,
real quote, something he actually believes, you know, he's going
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to talk. He's also very sensitive to criticism. I've heard
from a lot of people that didn't even know they
were blocked by Ben Roethlisberger on Twitter because they may
have tweeted something they didn't even maybe direct the tweet
at him. Maybe he searched his name and saw criticism,
and they go on there go, oh, I'm blocked to
like people like people also a sudden started checking in
the media and really, oh yeah, he blocked me. I
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I didn't even I didn't even know. So he's very
sensitive that he's just he's a bit of a diva.
He likes to complain, he wants to you can never
believe everything he says. He just always realized that he's
going to go back on his word later on and
say something completely the opposite. He's just this is just
part of what you deal with Roethlisberg. Unfortunately, this is
the drama that comes on. Well, that's it, and this
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isn't what you get from a top level quarterback in
the National Football League. And that's what's what I think
is is unique about this. You're not seeing. I mean,
Drew Brees is far and away going to be the
starting quarterback for the Saints and there was even them
talk of them maybe getting Lamar Jackson. You didn't see
Drew Brees saying, you know what, I want to play
three or four more years. You didn't see that. You
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see Tom Brady making that comment with the New England
Patriots and he said before and that's where I think
that Ben is trying to play these roles that he
thinks that people like, or he's trying to get that admiration.
Because we've heard Tom Brady say I'd like to play
in my mid forties three to five more years. We've
heard that comment before. We've heard Brett fare threatened retirement
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every offseason, and here the Packer fans being like, oh no,
Brett's you know, is he gonna come back? Ben did
the same exact thing. He just can't settle in and
be comfortable with himself. And I just think it puts
Mason Rudolph in a tough spot. I mean, how are
you going to feel as the third spring quarterback coming
in there? And now not that Mason Rudolph thought that
he was going to have the starting job for the
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next twelve years for the Pittsburgh Steelers if he was
the first overall pick in the draft. Okay, he's a
third round pick, so there's some flexibility there, But now,
how does that how does that go over? It's just
it he puts others in in comfortable positions for the
sake of himself, for the benefit of himself, and he's
done in time and time again in his career, and
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it's just it's just if it's getting old to me,
I don't know how the Steelers deal with it. The uh.
It just that team is so fragile when you think
about it, because You've got a real, really emotional Mike
Tomlin who is so emotional that he'll trip players on
kickoff returns. You've got You've got him leavy On Bell,
(29:08):
who the hell knows what's happening there. You've got Antonio
Brown that may or may not go on Facebook live
in the locker room after a game. You've got Ben
Roethlisberger who goes back on his word and criticize his
teammates for their being. I mean, they are just like emotionally,
they're just fragile. Man. Like every every year there's drama
you had after they lost to the Bears, and and
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it was during the national anthem protests and all that stuff.
You had. Then Ben Roethlisberger going back on his word
again and saying it's just it's it's a weird saying
what he thinks. Just a weird dynamic man. Just it's something.
I mean, be yourself, just just go with it. Be
I mean, I understand that you made some mistakes early
on in your career. I get all that, but come on, man, enough,
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it's it's just the same old story, just in different instances. Yeah,
And if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers, I am done with it.
To catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Joining us
now a two time World Series champ who now has
uh something different on his mind and that is uh
(30:14):
the two Steps. Johnny Damon joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio as Johnny as a member of the Dancing
with the Stars cast. Hey, Johnny, thanks so much for
coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me guys. UM definitely
was a great experience. It was definitely quick. Yeah, I
was gonna say, how the heck did you get eliminated? First?
I mean, what was that like worst case scenario for you?
Or is this best case scenario? Now you can sit
(30:35):
back and don't have the pressure on you. Well, I
can definitely sit back. But I had a great dance
for a week two. Um. The issue arose that we
there was just no time to vote. I mean that
that was the biggest issue, Like all of my friends
cannot um tune in. Granted I'm not the best dancer
(31:00):
that but but in all reality I was definitely between
six and nine. So but it's all good, you know.
It was a great experience. I did something that I
never um would have done before. But my mom has
always wanted me to learn how to dance, and my
(31:21):
girls know how to dance, so it's a great experience. Unfortunately,
with the way the voting was, it was really tough
to advance. UM. They always say that when you when
you work out new muscles, or if you do a
new workout routine or something, you know it works if
you're really sore the next day, especially in those areas
that you worked out. So that being said, never dancing
(31:44):
before the first time you started it, describe what your
body felt like the days afterwards. Well, this is the
first time in a long time that I committed four
plus hours to a workout, and I am so grateful
for that because playing baseball there was a commitment like
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when I was a young kid. When I got older,
there was that commitment that I had to have, and
doing Dancing with the Stars actually showed me that commitment again,
because once you're done playing baseball, I mean, you're not
going to go play baseball for just the fun of
(32:26):
it at like fort or four years old, So so
this was good to get hit me out there. I
actually thought we should have advanced, but you know, they're
they're trying to run a TV show. It's and it's
a great TV show, but there was so much more
that America and the world could have seen from me.
(32:49):
But you know they're the ones that losing out right
now because we we had such a great dance for
a week two. Um, it is a vote of oating thing,
but we cannot control it. So unfortunately we are out
and we will be back for week number four. I'm
(33:10):
gonna say this, Johnny David joining us here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. He's showing usknocks. I'm dan got screwed.
Kareem should be the one going home? Is that? Is
that what I'm saying? Is that? Is that what I'm deciphering,
because that's how I think most of us feel. Guys,
guess what Kareem has been through a lot. You know,
he was a stud back in the seventies and eighties.
(33:32):
This is his time and it's Tanya Harding's time as well.
You know she from the age of say twenty, her
life has been in chaos. So this this is good
for both of them. I mean, I live a great life.
I am happy, I have eight kids. I have the
(33:55):
great wife, my mom is still around. You know, I
do not need this, but they do. So I'm very happy. UM.
I'm going to come back and dance very well and
week four. And I know a lot of people are
upset that I'm not there because I brought energy. I
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brought like everything I brought to my team. You know
they're going to miss that when they're doing the rehearsals
and all that stuff. But everybody was great. I love
the experience, but I really wish I could have performed
UM next Monday Night. But you know, TV has their
(34:41):
priorities and I wasn't one of them. Johnny Damon with
us here on Fox Sports Radio, Dan Buyer Jonas stocks
in for Doug Gottlieb, two time World Series champion. You
played for a long time in Major League Baseball. What
was your favorite time in the Major Oh, it's gotta
be my time with the Red Sox. I mean, we um,
(35:03):
we changed the world's perspective on the Red Sox. I
mean it was always twenty five players, calves, players never
got along. The team knew they were going to lose
going into the season. We changed all that, and and
it was because we had some cool players who didn't
(35:25):
give a crap about what happened eight six years ago.
So so that was a incredible experience. I also love
playing for the Yankees, I mean first class organization UM,
top to bottom, and obviously my childhood team, the Kansas
City Royals UM. Being able to play for six years
(35:46):
for them with no revenue sharing where they could not
have a chance to compete, you know, that kind of
stunk that. I'm glad they wanted World Series that come
a couple of years ago. What where did you come
up with the idea? At what point were you looking
around going, you know, what's really going to get this
team fired up if I do some naked pull off?
So when did that idea come to your mind? Well?
(36:08):
I always wanted guys to have fun, Like we're grown
men and we're playing a kid's game. So whenever you're
in a clubhouse, you have to enjoy it, Like you
can't sit back and say, oh, I'm getting ready to
play a game. The stinks. I always look at it
(36:28):
like this is what we dreamed of as a kid,
and being able to play at the big highest level
UM for so many years UM and to win some championships.
I mean, this is the coolest thing ever. I mean,
my life has been really great because of the game
of baseball, but it also took dedication and and hard work,
(36:52):
which goes like that's that's behind the scenes, you know,
But championships is the reason why I started to play
the game of baseball and wanting to hoist the trophy. So,
I mean, my life's great. Johnny Damon joining us here
(37:13):
on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. When
you left Boston to go to the Yankees, was there
ever a time that you wish you hadn't left? Oh? Yeah,
I mean that was the toughest choice. I mean, first off,
the rest Sox really weren't um in position to try
to resign me. They had a young kid named Jacobe
(37:34):
Elsberry who um only needed me to be in Boston
for one more year before he made his presence stuck
so and all in a like, maybe they would have
moved me to left field, but then Manny Ramirez goes
somewhere else, which he eventually did. So so running a
baseball team is so hard. I mean, you have to
(37:56):
have five out fielders just ready to go nowadays five
until there's ready to go nowadays, and you know, it
was a great experience, but I understand that what the
GM's are going through. I mean you always have to
get younger for field. I mean one one moment before
(38:16):
I know your time is short. So I just want
to quick ask you this because well, John Carlos Stanton
is going through uhh, I mean being traded to the Yankees.
This spotlight is enormous on him. Even when he does well,
there's something going wrong. Does that just come to the territory.
What kind of advice would you give him of maybe
something that that he didn't know he would be getting
(38:37):
playing for the New York Yankees. I would say, talked
to a Rod. I mean a Rod has been through everything,
everything through the media and all uh Stanton has to
do hit home runs and hit them when they count.
I mean, it's a long season and he's going to
catch fire, and I can't wait for him to catch fire.
(39:00):
But this game of baseball is so humbling that not
one day can you go out there and pack yourself
on the back because the next day you might face
Justin Verlander who just punches you out a couple of times.
So I think that's why when everybody meets baseball players,
(39:21):
they they're mostly very humble and they understand that it's
a game of failure and they can step up at
any time and be the greatest player of all time
and then the next minute on everybody's atlas. So he
(39:43):
just needs to go out and play. At the end
of the year, you've gotta see his stats. He's gonna
have four d plus home runs, hundred RBIs, hunter runs scored,
and everyone's gonna say it's a great year. But right now,
it's kind of tough to do. But this kid is
a study and he's going to be incredible. He's Johnny
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David cast member of Dancing with the Stars Athlete Edition.
Even though he was voted off this week, he's going
to be back in about three weeks as well. Johnny,
We appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the season, even
if you are looking for looking from afar, and enjoy
this baseball season which is shaping up to be something special.
We appreciate it absolutely, guys. Thank you. Johnny David, two
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time World Series champ,
This is the best of the dun gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio Boom, and there is John Ramos
on this Wednesday. I tweeted on Twitter because that's where
you tweet guys that b k R. We're gonna be
with you the rest of the week. Okay, I'm sorry,
I'm just letting the cat out of the bag, and
I said, tell us what you want. Got a lot
(00:22):
of the John Ramo Show, which obviously is a given
on today's program. But jonas you should know, we did
have a request for John in the John a segment
that we've only done once here on Fox Sports Radio.
But it was enough to leave someone wanting more. So
maybe sometime in these next three days we will bring
(00:44):
John and the John back. Why that is the most
stunning development of all time, because I think that we
all universally agreed that well, and I'll take blame for that.
That was my idea and it we bombed. I was
that was an awful, awful idea that we thought was
gonna go a lot different. It was not John's fault.
What I the idea I thought in my head was
(01:07):
completely different from how it played out, and and just
a total whiff job by me terrible. It didn't with
if somebody wanted it. Roy Combs says, I want more
John and the John, so you could get some of
that later this week. Are you up for a John?
I think so always, thank you. Yes, it's always good
(01:29):
to revisit something that bombed. But yet, see if we
can grab some lightning in a bottle. It's a new audience.
Maybe that maybe this audience will like it better than
the last one. You never no, speaking of bombing, the
Raptors bombed their first opportunity. The narrative about them, they did.
They it was a bad night for Toronto. When you
(01:49):
say they only lost by one, they only lost by
one point. Jonas the narrative that we heard going in heck,
it's not even going into this playoff series. No one
was picking to Tonto to come out of the East
and go to the NBA Finals. They were the number
one seed, obviously had the best record in the East.
That that's the case, they had an opportunity to change
(02:10):
their change. The narrative had a little trouble with the Wizards,
but ended up winning a Game six on the road,
which hey, I give him credit for doing that. They
knocked Washington out a team that was probably better than
their eight seed, considering they had John wallback. But now
you've got the Cavaliers coming in where people still I
don't think you have a full read on who the
Cavaliers are and what they are. And the Toronto Raptors
(02:31):
had the ability last night to change the narrative that
they were going to be the team to mess within
the Eastern Conference, and when it came down to it,
they failed miserably. Everybody's got and I've talked about this before,
everybody's got this piece of furniture in their house that
they always bang their knee on. Oh yes, every everybody's
got that in their house. And you know exactly what
(02:51):
piece of furniture it is. Every time you round the
corner and you're in a hurry for whatever reason, and
it doesn't matter, It does not matter at all how
many times you try and avoid it, how many times
like there's just every time you around the yeah, you're
gonna have gonna bang your knee on it. It's a
terrible feeling. There's something at the producer's desk over there.
There's this little angled thing for us for us people
(03:13):
taller than six ft. Ryan Music and myself, we bang
our knees on that at least three times a year,
and it is the most horrifying pain that you shrink
up as a human being. That is the Cavaliers to
the Toronto Rafts organization, they continue to bang their knee
on that piece of furniture and they're never able to
avoid it. And you knew late in that game. Watching
(03:36):
the game, you knew Toronto was going to find a
way to lose. They had no confidence. They were leaking
confidence on the basketball court. They were losing all confidence
that they had going into that game, a game that
they should have won, that they had a lead early.
You knew they were going to butcher that lead. Not
only did they give up the lead the Cavaliers, I
mean the Cavaliers did make some shots Jonas that that
(03:57):
kept them in the game late, But it was how
it all played out. If you were to say Jonas
at the start of the series, who is going to
take the final shot for the Toronto Raptors when the
game counts the most, I think we would say Tomar
de Rosen. I think that would be a fair assessment.
And if it's not Tamar de Rosen. Then you would
maybe say, hey, what about Kyle Lowry? Okay, yeah, I
(04:19):
could go with Kyle Lowry. Hey maybe Serge Abaka spotting
up in the corner, right, sure, let's do it. Let's
do it. I don't think many people were saying, let's
let Fred van Vleet launch a three after he missed
most of the first round series with a shoulder injury.
But that's what the Raptors did, Jonas. And not only
did they do it once, they did it twice last
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night on two separate occasions. And this isn't This isn't
Jordan's kicking out to Kur or Jordan kicking out to Paxson.
That's not the case. The Raptors are trying to change
the narrative, and they're passing to a guy that's had
a bum shoulder for the last three weeks that like,
those are the things that you need. DeMar de Rosen
had an opportunity. Do you know who was guarding Tamar
(05:02):
de Rosen on that last possession in overtime? Tristan freaking Thompson.
You couldn't have asked for a better matchup. So what
does de Rosen do? Dribbles? Right? To the block, the
only place on the court that Tristan Thompson actually has
an advantage defensively against Tamar de Rosen, forcing him to
kick it out to Van Fleet too, again as the
bum shoulder. Tristan Thompson's defense isn't even good at a
(05:24):
hookah bar uh let alone at an NBA playoff game
when the game's on the line and a lot of
people are relying on you to make a stop, and
I just wonder if at the time, it's like people
that can handle their emotions in those situations are always
better players. All right, that's you do. You're just a
better player if you can handle your emotions in those situations.
It's a difference between uh, great players and not so
(05:47):
great players in the clutch, they can handle their emotions.
That was so evident because at some point, at some
point while while the game is going and I know
it's fast paced, but great athletes have the ability to
slow the game down at some point, does DeMar de
Rosen even stopped to think, alright, game on the line,
it's slow, mo. I see Tristan Thompson, Oh, this is
(06:08):
a better shot a twenty six ft for a guy
with one arm all right, let me go ahead and
throw it over here, and let's see. That was there's
no way that had to be options z on on
Dwyane Casey's playbook. That had to be the last possible
thing to where Dwyane Casey when he when you went
out there, said all right, last case scenario, and this
is only if we've got no other choice, throw the
(06:31):
ball out of bounds, don't give it to Fred van Fleet.
And they still gave it to him, and he couldn't
He couldn't muster up enough to to make the shots.
So that's that right there. The end of that game
was what the Raptors are to the calves. They just
find ways to lose the mentally. I don't know if
they just can't get over that hurdle, but that was
that was the epitome of that series all time. Bard
Rose in the Last Night explained his thinking on passing
(06:54):
an overtime to Fred van Vleets, who missed that attempt
at a game winner. If we same situation again, make
the same exact past, you know, it's not just me
trusting him, may be single guy on his team, coaching staff,
trust them in the moments. That's why he in the
game late in the game. You know he got a
tough skin. You know he's gonna bounced back, respond respond
from it. But you know still have the most confidence
(07:16):
in him. You're gonna say that about your teammates, but
that's not the point. The point is is why didn't
you pull up in front of Tristan Thompson. Why didn't
you try to make a move to the basket instead
of running to a dead end at the block, where again,
the Cavaliers don't have any size down there. I mean,
if you're gonna put the ball on the block, give
it to Valancunis and at least at least let him
(07:36):
try to score since he's taller than ever. It wasn't
about having confidence. Of course he's on the court, but
as he said, he was option Z. They didn't even
look at option A, BC or D on the way
through it. Pull it up drive middle of the lane,
try to draw contact. He went to the worst possible
spot on the floor, erased about ten other options, and
then had to kick it out with the guy with
(07:58):
the bump shoulder, who yeah, they have and it's maybe
shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.
If that's the situation. And the thing about recapping NBA
Playoff games because of these seven games series, especially the
later it gets, you'll see blowouts and then a team
will come back and they'll blow out the other team.
And you know, it was like the finals a couple
of years ago Calves Warriors that went seven games. You know,
every game was a blowout outside of game seven. So
(08:20):
you can you can do knee jerk reaction stuff, and
a lot of times we do it and then we
look like fools because then second game is completely different
from what the first game was. This one, though, don't
you kind of get the feeling that was a really
really important loss, Like that was that was really bad.
This is one that's gonna rattle the rest of the series.
It's gonna change the way this series goes. I think
(08:41):
it was a terrible lossome because it it now is
in their heads. Yes, that's the biggest part about it.
It's now in Toronto's heads. Be sure to catch live
editions of the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Coming up in June. There
was a celebrity softball game that will benefit Tom Coughlin
j Fund. The game is hosted by one of the
(09:04):
best defenders in the entire NFL, Giant safety Landed Collins. Hey, Land,
and thanks so much for coming on today. Oh yeah,
we are doing well and I've got a I've had
a question for a year and I'm glad that you're
on today that I can finally ask you this. What
the heck was the difference between what you guys did
in twenty six on defense and then to what happened
(09:26):
last year. Now that you've stepped away from last season
and had some time to think about it, what was
the difference for such a for such an unfortunate turnaround
in your guys sake, where you guys were second in
scoring defense two years ago and then just didn't have
it last year. What were the biggest differences that you
saw from year to year from those two seasons. Um,
(09:46):
first of all, we had a lot of injuries offense,
so that really caused us a defense to be on
the shold a little bit more than we usually were
in the previous year. And then, um, definitely, we just
we just pushing to make plays and stuff to let
them come to us. We were trying to make something happen. Besides, um,
(10:07):
let it come back through Landing. If you had to
rank one to three the most obnoxious fan base in
the division, it could go, you know, Philly, it could
go Dallas and then Washington. What order is the most
obnoxious fan base in that division? Uh? That division? The
first one, I gotta be silly, silly, and then after
(10:30):
that I would have to go with h Washingtons and Wow,
Washington's Urson down. That's surprised. I thought Dallas would be
the other. So, so you're saying that Philly is the
most obnoxious, do you know how bad it's going to
be now that they want a Super Bowl? It was
gonna be ridiculous. We know that. So we have to
go up in there with H. L. High Nut up
(10:52):
and go play some football and get a get a
win and have to quiet that noise real quick. Let's
let's raise the stakes a little bit with Landon Collins
of the New York Giants joining us. More obnoxious fan
base Eagles or Auburn. Oh no, I'll go Auburn. WHOA interesting?
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Why is it just because of the proximity in the
state of Alabama or what's the reasoning? Correct is in
the state of Alabama two schools. One school is always
ranked higher than the other one and it's the Arm
Bold Arm. But there's like no other. I promise you that,
um and we literally hate each other, hate each other
on the field and the fans like in the NFL
(11:35):
football players, we play against each other because we're a
competitor at alban and Alabama we hate each other. Okay,
who's the fans and team Latin columns with us here
all pro from the New York Giants. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, Dan Buyer Jonas knocks with us here landon
what do we in the media get most wrong about
(11:56):
Odell Beckham? You being his teammate, what do we get
wrong the most about him? His lifestyle, the kind of
person is he has, has the biggest heart that anyone
can ever imagine. He loves what he does, plays with passion,
and everybody looks at his passion as childish, but it's
(12:17):
it's how we all are. I mean, the only thing
that that that kills him because y'all keep everybody keeping
the media keeps the camera on him. When I could
I give a prime example after the Tampa Bay game.
We call the play. I told him, I told ours
in the quality and not to call it. He called
it anyway. I can't to the sideline through my helmet,
(12:40):
told me I pushed my coach off because he try
to grab him. Push my coach off. And we walked
to the end of the other side of the field,
yelling all kinds of all kinds of stuff. But nobody
sees that. But the camera's always an odelt, so you're
gonna see every expression, every each other that he does.
And that's just the passion of the game that we happened.
How bad we want to win Land in College. Joining
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us here on the Doug got Leaves Show. He's Jonas Knocks,
I'm Dan Buyer. We are in for Doug today. What
did we get wrong about the U and Eli Apple dispute.
I've understood you guys made up that you guys are
now on the same page. But was there anything that
we were missing when you guys were beefing during the season. Um, no,
(13:26):
it was. It's just really just a misunderstanding between me
a lie because at the end of the day, we
just we just not just myself, all of us dbs
because we the ones that's gonna deal with him every day,
but the ones I see him all the time, we
don't want to be all go to dinner. Most of
the time. It was like we I think people just
thought were actually trying to fight, all right, go at
(13:49):
each other. It's really just I was trying to be
a big brother Phone, but he wasn't allowing all of
us to be a big brother phone and be that phone.
Was he a cancer or do you wish you took
that statement back? Man? I was just coming out of
surgery when I said that, So yeah, I would definitely
take that back. I would definitely use a different wording.
I just said, he his mind is just somewhere else. Um,
(14:10):
he's not really focused. Um he has a lot of
uh he had, he had a lot of um in house,
personal reasons of why he's the way he was so. UM.
We see during the NBA playoffs a lot of altercations.
There's never usually ever a fight. Guys are usually john
at each other, kind of getting into each other's face,
and that's just sort of the heightened stakes of playoff basketball.
(14:33):
But you playing in football and you being a safety
and somebody can that can lower the boom. I don't
know how much you can do nowadays in in these NFL,
in this NFL climate. But what's the most angry you've
ever been on a football field, whether it be in college,
whether it be in high school or the NFL. Which
player got you the most heated that you were looking
to take out the next play the most that man,
(15:05):
I really didn't have. I never had had a player
really gonna need my skin to make me very huge.
It really just take off on the next play. I
want to do bull rush Mr. Anyone who was team
is that I never never had that problem. Um, A
lot of people will stayed away from me, honestly because
I was a definite player and really hard. Yeah, that's
(15:26):
and that's like, you guys have an advantage in the NBA.
They can't. It's not like anybody's gonna throw down. But
you guys, the physicality is built into your job. So
if somebody gets under your skin, or if Dez Bryant
shooting his mouth off, you know, if he comes over
the middle, you can lower your helmet, you can lay
the boom. So when you watch the NBA and some
of the physicality in that league, what's your biggest impression
(15:47):
of it. Ye um, uh, they're not built like us. Honestly, Uh,
it does not mean they they very They're very they're
very competitive. I give ned, but men played men play football.
(16:10):
Landed College of the New York Giants joining us is
he'll be hosting the celebrity softball game that will benefit
the Tom Coughlin j Fund. The mission of the Tom
Coughlin j Fund used to help families tackle childhood cancer
by providing comprehensive, financially, emotional, and practical support. This game
goes down June nine. You're one of the captains with
former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs. Am I correct in
(16:33):
saying that this kind of came about from the idea
of a fan. The the license plate guy in the
New York Giants. Did he approach you or how did
this game come about? Well? Actually, yeah, he definitely posted me.
But um, it was at the Pro Bowl. When I
was at the Pro Bow my first year, my first,
my second year, and if in the year and then
in my career, and I want to be always be
other signature depth. So I went off to the sideline
(16:55):
to gap him off and stuff like that, and he's
like Hey, you ever thought about doing a charity event?
I said, yeah, but I just never really had the
time to sit down and do it because I had
so much going on, especially with the crazy year I
had it was, and then coming off the first year,
I was was like, really just want to focus on
playing football being the best tack can be out. Never
really sat down and I wanted to do it, but
I had if somebody could definitely do it for me,
(17:18):
help me do it. Pushing in the right direction, Yeah,
he said, bet as all he said. Honestly, he didn't
bring up softball. He didn't say basketball and said kickball,
flag football, any of those things you say. All they
said was that I got it. And then from that
point on he came up to me. We went like
two weeks later, called me up and hey, do a
softball event, and I said, let's do it. And from
(17:41):
that point on we we took off of it, and
now we're on our second should I be a softball
event and it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be way
better than the first one. Taking place Saturday, June ninth
and Pimono, New York, and you can get tickets at
Landon Collins game dot Com. It should be an amazing
of Hey, you guys have a new running back now
in Kwon Barkley. What does he need to know not
(18:05):
only about the NFL, but playing in New York and
playing as a member of the Giants. To watch out
for the media definitely definitely one of the biggest ones.
Definitely watch out for the media. But definitely, um, just
um take it all in. The atmosphere is great. You
could definitely learn a lot from this. This, this place,
this organization is city, both cities, New Jersey and New York,
(18:27):
and it's no place like playing up here. This this marketing,
this this uh, this city, what all it has to
offer is nothing love it not nothing like it, and
just take it all in. Honestly, that's what I would
tell them in the advice I would give him as
multi as probably some other stuff I tell him now
(18:49):
when I sit down with him one day, But for
that would be the most parts. For right now, how
many times have you picked off at ELI manning and practice?
Honestly because during the doing them, doing training camp, I
get more opportunity, but doing the season I don't really
get too much. So honestly, since I since I've been
(19:12):
playing with him. Yeah, four four picks not bad man,
not bad? I mean, and now are you gonna what's
what's your goal as far as interceptions as training camp A,
you're going you're gonna try and top that in one
training camper. You just take it one at a time.
I'm just taking it on one at a time. Because
Eli Bradley makes mistakes, I promise you that he rather
makes mistakes when it comes down to practicing and getting
(19:35):
what he needs to done, getting getting what he needs
to do right. Well, hopefully we'll see Eli doing that
for the next couple of years as well. No fly
zone back in eighteen, I assume you guys, uh yes, absolutely,
and tell Sae Kwon Barkley to stay away from Eli Apple. No,
I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. Total Hey, Eli Apples
a buckey. Can't you know? I'm not, I don't. I
(19:56):
don't hate dot'im alone. So just having to Landed College again.
The game June nine, Pomona, New York landed Collins game
dot com, the celebrity softball game that will benefit the
Tom Coughlin j Fund. You are a captain of one team,
Brandon Jacobs, the Super Bowl champion captain of another should
be great. We thank you for the time, Landing, and
(20:18):
UH have a great time in June, and good luck
with everything with the game. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger saying now after these last couple
(20:39):
of years, jonas of maybe some indecision in the off season,
saying that he expects to play three or five more seasons.
This less than a week after the Steelers used a
third round pick to take Oklahoma State quarterback Mason Rudolph
in the draft. So Ben Roethlisberger, who has said in
previous off seasons, if you wouldn't even know if you
(21:00):
was going to play next year or that next season,
now is saying that he plans to play three to
five more years for the Black and Gold. Yeah, it
seems like he's made up his mind. I mean, he's
only hinted it retirement a couple of times over the
past couple of years, and now it seems seems like
a very very he's very sure of what his career
(21:20):
is gonna look like, make up your mind, man, I mean,
what is is this just because they drafted a quarterbacks
so now it's like f him, like I'm not here
to mentor anybody. This is going to turn into far
Vin Rogers. I mean, come on, this is a quarterback
that I don't want to say is not comfortable in
his own skin, Jonas. But he seems to always try
to be something that he's not, and that he's he's
(21:41):
never himself, and if he is himself, he comes off
as a jerk at times. I mean this if if
you want to take the full circle of Ben Roethlisberger's career.
As we look at these comments, Jonas, we had heard
reports out of Pittsburgh that that even when they were
winning Super Balls, he wasn't well liked in town, Like
(22:02):
he wasn't the quarterback that the city of Pittsburgh loved,
and that at times he could be aloof maybe a
little standoffish. There were also the allegations that were made
against him with sexual misconduct. All of that surrounded Ben
Roethlisberger in his early years. Something seemed to change midway
through where maybe he warmed up to the media, or
(22:23):
learned how to talk to the media, or maybe it
was a little bit more genuine. But when you had
seen the comments over these last couple of years, if
I don't know if I'm gonna play again, I don't
know if I'm gonna play again, that seems to be
very Brett farvesh. And what it also does is it
brings out trying to get the fan base to say, Ben,
we don't want you to leave, we don't want you
(22:43):
to go anywhere, we don't want you to do anything.
Please stay b our quarterback. He's almost fishing for compliments
when he was leaving his status up in the air.
Now he wants to put on the Tom Brady roll
when he feels threatened or thinking that the Steelers may
actually not want manymore. And now he says, well, I
may end up playing the next three or five years.
(23:04):
He just he can't. It's always got to be something,
or it's always got to be a character for some
sort of story or narrative that wants to pass along.
And it's just getting really old as you watch this. Unratty.
He's also called out his coach and his teammates on
multiple occasions. In fact, I don't remember a season where
he hasn't taken a shot in the media at Mike Tomlin,
which with the way they practice or whatever you want
(23:26):
to call it. Imagine if that was somebody else a right,
Imagine if Jay Cutler had done that when he was playing,
called out his coach, which he never did, or called
out a teammate, which he never did, despite what anybody
wants to say, how would that have been portrayed. But
with Roethlisberger, you just kind of expected, like he's just
one of those passive, aggressive guys who's going to say
(23:46):
things through the media. I also heard that he was
upset or kind of uh surprised by the trade of
Martavis Brian and uh, you know what, didn't didn't really
see it. Isn't that the same guy that he called out,
Like he called Martvis Brian out before. He's taken shots
at Martvis Bryant for the way he handled his career
early on. So I just whenever he's one of those
(24:07):
guys when he starts talking, you just kind of take
it with a grain of salt. Okay, man, all right,
because you can jot down, you can do a timeline,
you can mark these quotes that he gave within the
last twenty four hours, and then six months from now
he's going to say something that's the complete opposite, and
at some point you just go alright, just stop leaving him.
I look at Ben Roethlisberger at his time, and he's
(24:28):
got a contract that runs through twenty nineteen, where if
you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, now you start to say, if
there's any drop off that you have got in the
next two years that you'll see and twenty nineteen, maybe
you end up making the decision like the green Bay
Packers had to do. I don't think that Ben Roethlisberger
(24:48):
has the poll that Brett Farve had, and look at
how difficult it was for Brett far but green Bay
ended up having to do it. They had to move on.
Brett Five ends up announcing his retirement in March, so
they've moved down to Aaron Rodgers, and then five wants
to come back, and then it ends up being the
end of the Brett Farve era in Green Bay. I'm
not saying that Ben Roethlisberger is going to announce his
retirement Jonas, but when you are the Pittsburgh Steelers and
(25:11):
you wanted to write by all your players, but if
he hasn't done right by you, this makes it, in
my mind, a heck of a lot easier for the
Pittsburgh Steelers to move on from Ben Roethlisberger whenever they
would like to, or whenever they would see fit. I mean,
we just had Landon Collins on and we're talking about
Eli Manning, a guy that summoned that building thought last
year was at the end of his rope, that this
(25:32):
was the end of Eli's career. Maybe they should start
looking forward. Well, if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and you
see Ben Roethlisberger and making those comments, I would say,
guess what makes a little bit easier because this year
we actually tried to plan for something that you were
saying you're planning for your retirement, and now you're gonna
go around and and essentially do us like this. If
(25:53):
I'm Pittsburgh, I can't wait till the bend. If I'm
a Steelers front office guy, I can't wait for the
Ben Roethlisberger era to be over to not deal with
these Well, although look there's been plenty of time. I mean,
Mike Tomlin, I'm sure he's probably annoyed with it. But
I think he also realized that's what he's a damn
good quarterback. So I I sort of this is sort
of what you have to deal with when you're there.
But this, like everyone talks about how dysfunctional the Patriots
(26:16):
all of a sudden, all right, like everyone talks about
all the Patriots dysfunction, and Belichick and Brady don't like
each other, as Tom Brady ever called out Bill Belichick
in public. Never once, uh yeah, never, never once has
he gone down that road if it's and now the
media knows when you go to Roethlisberger whether it's an actual,
real quote, something he actually believes, you know, he's going
(26:38):
to talk. He's also very sensitive to criticism. I've heard
from a lot of people that didn't even know they
were blocked by Ben Roethlisberger on Twitter because they may
have tweeted something they didn't even maybe direct the tweet
at him. Maybe he searched his name and saw criticism,
and they go on there go, oh, I'm blocked to
like people like people also a sudden started checking in
the media and really, oh yeah, he blocked me. I
(27:01):
I didn't even I didn't even know. So he's very
sensitive that he's just he's a bit of a diva.
He likes to complain, he wants to you can never
believe everything he says. He just always realized that he's
going to go back on his word later on and
say something completely the opposite. He's just this is just
part of what you deal with Roethlisberg. Unfortunately, this is
the drama that comes on. Well, that's it, and this
(27:22):
isn't what you get from a top level quarterback in
the National Football League. And that's what's what I think
is is unique about this. You're not seeing. I mean,
Drew Brees is far and away going to be the
starting quarterback for the Saints and there was even them
talk of them maybe getting Lamar Jackson. You didn't see
Drew Brees saying, you know what, I want to play
three or four more years. You didn't see that. You
(27:44):
see Tom Brady making that comment with the New England
Patriots and he said before and that's where I think
that Ben is trying to play these roles that he
thinks that people like, or he's trying to get that admiration.
Because we've heard Tom Brady say I'd like to play
in my mid forties three to five more years. We've
heard that comment before. We've heard Brett fare threatened retirement
(28:07):
every offseason, and here the Packer fans being like, oh no,
Brett's you know, is he gonna come back? Ben did
the same exact thing. He just can't settle in and
be comfortable with himself. And I just think it puts
Mason Rudolph in a tough spot. I mean, how are
you going to feel as the third spring quarterback coming
in there? And now not that Mason Rudolph thought that
he was going to have the starting job for the
(28:28):
next twelve years for the Pittsburgh Steelers if he was
the first overall pick in the draft. Okay, he's a
third round pick, so there's some flexibility there, But now,
how does that how does that go over? It's just
it he puts others in in comfortable positions for the
sake of himself, for the benefit of himself, and he's
done in time and time again in his career, and
(28:48):
it's just it's just if it's getting old to me,
I don't know how the Steelers deal with it. The uh.
It just that team is so fragile when you think
about it, because You've got a real, really emotional Mike
Tomlin who is so emotional that he'll trip players on
kickoff returns. You've got You've got him leavy On Bell,
(29:08):
who the hell knows what's happening there. You've got Antonio
Brown that may or may not go on Facebook live
in the locker room after a game. You've got Ben
Roethlisberger who goes back on his word and criticize his
teammates for their being. I mean, they are just like emotionally,
they're just fragile. Man. Like every every year there's drama
you had after they lost to the Bears, and and
(29:30):
it was during the national anthem protests and all that stuff.
You had. Then Ben Roethlisberger going back on his word
again and saying it's just it's it's a weird saying
what he thinks. Just a weird dynamic man. Just it's something.
I mean, be yourself, just just go with it. Be
I mean, I understand that you made some mistakes early
on in your career. I get all that, but come on, man, enough,
(29:53):
it's it's just the same old story, just in different instances. Yeah,
And if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers, I am done with it.
To catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Joining us
now a two time World Series champ who now has
uh something different on his mind and that is uh
(30:14):
the two Steps. Johnny Damon joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio as Johnny as a member of the Dancing
with the Stars cast. Hey, Johnny, thanks so much for
coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me guys. UM definitely
was a great experience. It was definitely quick. Yeah, I
was gonna say, how the heck did you get eliminated? First?
I mean, what was that like worst case scenario for you?
Or is this best case scenario? Now you can sit
(30:35):
back and don't have the pressure on you. Well, I
can definitely sit back. But I had a great dance
for a week two. Um. The issue arose that we
there was just no time to vote. I mean that
that was the biggest issue, Like all of my friends
cannot um tune in. Granted I'm not the best dancer
(31:00):
that but but in all reality I was definitely between
six and nine. So but it's all good, you know.
It was a great experience. I did something that I
never um would have done before. But my mom has
always wanted me to learn how to dance, and my
(31:21):
girls know how to dance, so it's a great experience. Unfortunately,
with the way the voting was, it was really tough
to advance. UM. They always say that when you when
you work out new muscles, or if you do a
new workout routine or something, you know it works if
you're really sore the next day, especially in those areas
that you worked out. So that being said, never dancing
(31:44):
before the first time you started it, describe what your
body felt like the days afterwards. Well, this is the
first time in a long time that I committed four
plus hours to a workout, and I am so grateful
for that because playing baseball there was a commitment like
(32:06):
when I was a young kid. When I got older,
there was that commitment that I had to have, and
doing Dancing with the Stars actually showed me that commitment again,
because once you're done playing baseball, I mean, you're not
going to go play baseball for just the fun of
(32:26):
it at like fort or four years old, So so
this was good to get hit me out there. I
actually thought we should have advanced, but you know, they're
they're trying to run a TV show. It's and it's
a great TV show, but there was so much more
that America and the world could have seen from me.
(32:49):
But you know they're the ones that losing out right
now because we we had such a great dance for
a week two. Um, it is a vote of oating thing,
but we cannot control it. So unfortunately we are out
and we will be back for week number four. I'm
(33:10):
gonna say this, Johnny David joining us here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. He's showing usknocks. I'm dan got screwed.
Kareem should be the one going home? Is that? Is
that what I'm saying? Is that? Is that what I'm deciphering,
because that's how I think most of us feel. Guys,
guess what Kareem has been through a lot. You know,
he was a stud back in the seventies and eighties.
(33:32):
This is his time and it's Tanya Harding's time as well.
You know she from the age of say twenty, her
life has been in chaos. So this this is good
for both of them. I mean, I live a great life.
I am happy, I have eight kids. I have the
(33:55):
great wife, my mom is still around. You know, I
do not need this, but they do. So I'm very happy. UM.
I'm going to come back and dance very well and
week four. And I know a lot of people are
upset that I'm not there because I brought energy. I
(34:17):
brought like everything I brought to my team. You know
they're going to miss that when they're doing the rehearsals
and all that stuff. But everybody was great. I love
the experience, but I really wish I could have performed
UM next Monday Night. But you know, TV has their
(34:41):
priorities and I wasn't one of them. Johnny Damon with
us here on Fox Sports Radio, Dan Buyer Jonas stocks
in for Doug Gottlieb, two time World Series champion. You
played for a long time in Major League Baseball. What
was your favorite time in the Major Oh, it's gotta
be my time with the Red Sox. I mean, we um,
(35:03):
we changed the world's perspective on the Red Sox. I
mean it was always twenty five players, calves, players never
got along. The team knew they were going to lose
going into the season. We changed all that, and and
it was because we had some cool players who didn't
(35:25):
give a crap about what happened eight six years ago.
So so that was a incredible experience. I also love
playing for the Yankees, I mean first class organization UM,
top to bottom, and obviously my childhood team, the Kansas
City Royals UM. Being able to play for six years
(35:46):
for them with no revenue sharing where they could not
have a chance to compete, you know, that kind of
stunk that. I'm glad they wanted World Series that come
a couple of years ago. What where did you come
up with the idea? At what point were you looking
around going, you know, what's really going to get this
team fired up if I do some naked pull off?
So when did that idea come to your mind? Well?
(36:08):
I always wanted guys to have fun, Like we're grown
men and we're playing a kid's game. So whenever you're
in a clubhouse, you have to enjoy it, Like you
can't sit back and say, oh, I'm getting ready to
play a game. The stinks. I always look at it
(36:28):
like this is what we dreamed of as a kid,
and being able to play at the big highest level
UM for so many years UM and to win some championships.
I mean, this is the coolest thing ever. I mean,
my life has been really great because of the game
of baseball, but it also took dedication and and hard work,
(36:52):
which goes like that's that's behind the scenes, you know,
But championships is the reason why I started to play
the game of baseball and wanting to hoist the trophy. So,
I mean, my life's great. Johnny Damon joining us here
(37:13):
on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. When
you left Boston to go to the Yankees, was there
ever a time that you wish you hadn't left? Oh? Yeah,
I mean that was the toughest choice. I mean, first off,
the rest Sox really weren't um in position to try
to resign me. They had a young kid named Jacobe
(37:34):
Elsberry who um only needed me to be in Boston
for one more year before he made his presence stuck
so and all in a like, maybe they would have
moved me to left field, but then Manny Ramirez goes
somewhere else, which he eventually did. So so running a
baseball team is so hard. I mean, you have to
(37:56):
have five out fielders just ready to go nowadays five
until there's ready to go nowadays, and you know, it
was a great experience, but I understand that what the
GM's are going through. I mean you always have to
get younger for field. I mean one one moment before
(38:16):
I know your time is short. So I just want
to quick ask you this because well, John Carlos Stanton
is going through uhh, I mean being traded to the Yankees.
This spotlight is enormous on him. Even when he does well,
there's something going wrong. Does that just come to the territory.
What kind of advice would you give him of maybe
something that that he didn't know he would be getting
(38:37):
playing for the New York Yankees. I would say, talked
to a Rod. I mean a Rod has been through everything,
everything through the media and all uh Stanton has to
do hit home runs and hit them when they count.
I mean, it's a long season and he's going to
catch fire, and I can't wait for him to catch fire.
(39:00):
But this game of baseball is so humbling that not
one day can you go out there and pack yourself
on the back because the next day you might face
Justin Verlander who just punches you out a couple of times.
So I think that's why when everybody meets baseball players,
(39:21):
they they're mostly very humble and they understand that it's
a game of failure and they can step up at
any time and be the greatest player of all time
and then the next minute on everybody's atlas. So he
(39:43):
just needs to go out and play. At the end
of the year, you've gotta see his stats. He's gonna
have four d plus home runs, hundred RBIs, hunter runs scored,
and everyone's gonna say it's a great year. But right now,
it's kind of tough to do. But this kid is
a study and he's going to be incredible. He's Johnny
(40:05):
David cast member of Dancing with the Stars Athlete Edition.
Even though he was voted off this week, he's going
to be back in about three weeks as well. Johnny,
We appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the season, even
if you are looking for looking from afar, and enjoy
this baseball season which is shaping up to be something special.
We appreciate it absolutely, guys. Thank you. Johnny David, two
(40:25):
time World Series champ,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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