May 8, 2018 • 37 mins
Doug doesn't understand why the Cavaliers did not punish Rodney Hood for refusing to play in the 4th quarter of their win against the Raptors. He also thinks people need to stop comparing college athletes to slaves because it's completely inaccurate. Plus he talks to NBA Champion Eddie House about LeBron James' chances of leaving the Cavaliers and who's the best team remaining in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up, America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Coming to you from the beautiful City
of Angels. Where we are waiting Lebron James. Might be
like waiting on GOODO or Lebron never shows up, We'll
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still be waiting here. Speaking of Lebron, tell me if
you've heard this before, but Lebron swept the Raptors does
feel like everything like, man, is this groundhog Day? No,
I'm not Bill Murray. This is not groundhog Day. The
Raptors were beating one three yesterday. Sixers did stave office
sweep as they played our boy teaching McConnell and uh
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and got a home win to force the Game five.
Speaking of Game five's home game for the Warriors, that
one feels over. Home game for the Rockets, That one
feels over, and eventually we'll get We'll get back around
to what we thought would happen to start year. The
only difference, the only surprise, would be that the Boston
Celtics could be in the Eastern Conference Finals without Gordon Hayward,
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without Kyrie Irving. Outside of that, had I started the
year and said, Hey, the Calves and the Celtics, you
would have said, yeah, okay. Had I started the year
and said the Warriors and the Rockets, he was said yeah, okay.
So it wasn't about Lebron. Lebron shot wait for it,
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Fife from three point range in the in the four
game series, they barely played Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkston, Heck
Rodney Hood refused to go in the game last night
for the Cleveland Cavaliers, like said's three rotation players basically useless.
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And the Raptors were swept four games tonight. So I'd
like to make this about Lebron James, Lebron James, Lebron James,
that Lebron James. But really it's about the Toronto Raptors.
Who they are, who we thought they were. That's it.
They are exactly who we thought they were. And you
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can come at me with the you know, regular season, dude,
the Hawks once had the best regular record in the
regular season, the Bulls once had the record in the
regular season. Last year, the Celtics had the best record
in the regular season, and nobody thought they were the
best team. And had Rondo not gotten hurt. They would
have been beaten by the Chicago Bulls because they were
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beating two games none in Chicago to start the series.
So we can make this about Lebron. It's really about
the Raptors. This is who the Raptors are. Cool story,
you got, Drake, You are the North which feels like
really bad English, but maybe it works in Canada. I'm
not sure that the Queen's English. But what we see
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is a team that wins a bunch of games that
nobody takes seriously and now they've been eliminated. Dinosaurs Extinct
May seven, two thousand eighteen. That series was about the Raptors,
not about this, not about the calves, not about We
can make it about Lebron stealing game one, hitting the
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runner in game three, but really it's about the Raptors.
You couldn't win one game, not one. You couldn't find
a way to win one game. Nope. Now, the one
really interesting part of the Cavaliers is the rodney Hood deal.
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Right Like, if I'm Lebron James and today I wake
up and rodney Hood refused to go in the game
last night because he's falling out of the rotation and
he felt like he's too good to be playing mop
up duty, Like that's fine, we can handle that. But
for the Calves to not suspend, not find him, what
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what sort of culture are we instilling? How does it
become okay? And to anyone who says, well, he listened,
the real fine is gonna be the offseason when he
doesn't get nearly as big a deal as he would
have gotten, and by this getting out he gets embarrasses him.
All that's true. But if I want to build a
consistent winner, and I want a guy who I need
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to have bought in because you never know when you're
gonna go to him, You just don't know. You go
to a six or seventh game with the buston Celtics
and you're gonna have to use your look at these
Once you get fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh game in these series,
you start using guys you didn't use before because a
couple of guys are out of gas. And and to
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not instill the culture in your franchise that that is
completely and utterly and totally unacceptable, unacceptable. He is unacceptable,
all right? Like, wait, I don't want to go in
the game because I'm what's the term I believe the
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kids term, you know, the kid's sermon for this one
in his ramos. I believe but her would be the
the kids term. All right, I believe that's what it is,
because I'm but heard over the fact that I did.
I'm no longer in the rotation. I'm the petulant child
that's mad because I went from Game one starter against
the Pacers too. I'm a scrub, I'm a mop up dude.
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Guess what this is the deal? This is the deal.
So roddy hood, we can ship you off to Atlanta,
to Brooklyn, to one of these other franchises. That's fine
with losing in the off season the meantime, how do
you not hold him accountable? How is he not fine
and suspended today? Even if ultimately it becomes a slap
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in the wrist, a game one suspension, a game he
wouldn't have played in. How do you not do that?
How does that become acceptable behavior? And while part of
me wonders if Lebron James secretly loves this, dude, I
love this idea. I love this idea of me being
a guy who can lift up a franchise. Think of
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the credit he is getting for beating a team that
everyone thought he was going to beat. I love when
we're sitting there, going, I can't believe, Lebron, did you
actually think Toronto was gonna win the playoffs? Like last
week Nick Nick right came on and I said, like, dude,
can he continue to carry a friend? Who do you
think is gonna win? Like, yeah, I think I think
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the Calves. Why because they're the Raptors, zero faith that
they'll win important games in the playoffs, and that has
played out as such. But think of the credit that
Lebron James has a right, Like Lebron James misses a
couple of key free throws, makes a runner in a
tie game Game three at home, a game that they
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nearly spit up and cost themselves, and we and we
start playing footage of different Jordan's moments and like, see
he's like Michael Jordan's or he's just beating the He's
been beating the Raptors, who everyone knew we're gonna be beaten,
including the Raptors. So I guess the one thing in
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my mind is does Lebron like the fact that he's
quote unquote overachieving with this Calvs roster where he gets
a lot more credit as opposed to you go to
the West, you play with the Lakers, you had a
couple of stars, and now you're expected two win a championship,
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compete for a championship in the West, which is far
more difficult. So the Raptors are who we thought they were.
The Calves are who we thought they were. I'm a
little bit bothered, more than a little bit bothered by
the lack of culture being instilled with what one player,
Rodney Hood pulled last night. And I just wondered today
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if Lebron's like, hey, you know what, it's kind of
better being on the underdog and getting to the finals
then it is being on the favorite and competing and
falling short of the finals. I just wonder, how about
teaching McConnell last night, Right, McConnell fits into that kind
of classic First, he's the classic true point guard. But
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if you look at backups, and I remember when Matthew
Dellavedova was was the backup you had to become a starter.
Because Kyrie got hurt against the Warriors in the finals.
This is going back to two years ago or three
years ago. Actually three years ago, people went crazy because teaching.
McConnell was diving on the floor and he thought they
were he was taking out people's legs. And my point
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then is my point now, those guys wouldn't be in
the league if they didn't make those plays. They weren't
a little bit tougher, borderline a little bit crazy and
made the and and put their body out there to
which other starters with more athletic talent, sometimes more skill,
aren't willing to do. We had Patrick Beverley on two
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weeks ago. He's the same guy. Forget skin color. Being
a backup means you've got to kind of have a
level of psycho to you to which you you you're
you believe that you should be a starter. You're willing
to compete and willing to fight anybody in the gym
to show you're a starter. And McConnell showed that that
he could be one last night in a pinch in
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pinch Duty, much the way that Delhi showed us at
times in pinch Duty, much the way that Patrick Beverley
has showed us in pinch Duty. That's not their best role,
but that's why they've made it. That's why they've stuck.
When there are other guys that are taller, shoot better,
maybe more elegant, more flamboyant, more athletic, that haven't penned up.
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Eddie House Joints. Of course, Eddie could have gone anywhere
in the country. Out of high school. He went to
Arizona State, And I'm I'm just wondering, Eddie, do you
do you think that's a like that there's the Hey,
are you better off staying in Cleveland where you might
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not win another title, but you might get to championships
several times. You might have one or two shots if
you stay healthy, or going to a place like the
Lakers are going to the Sixers, where you can surround
yourself with better talent, but you're gonna have to kind
of remake a team, remake their culture and try to
make that run all over again. Um, I think I
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probably will. I would stay where I'm at instead of
because it's not guaranteed, guaranteed that you being able to
stay in Cleveland and surround yourself with with a cast
and you're gonna get to the to the finals. Somehow,
I'm not sure that if you you could depend on
some of those guys, um, even though they're there, are
a lot more talents, better talent, But like going to Philly,
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similar skill set. Both play with the ball in their hands.
And you see Ben Simmons coming off of pen downs.
Can you see Penn Simmons playing off the ball. It's
hard for me to see that. So with the Lakers,
same thing. You want Linzo playing off the ball. I
think he's better. I would stay in Cleveland just for me.
Uh all right, So look, you've been on teams before,
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you've been on Lebronze teams before. How do you think
he feels about Rodney Hood refusing to come out the
bench last night? Oh? Man, I think everybody is probably
extremely upset about that, because if they're not the only one,
they're not the only ones that set there and and sacrifice.
Mean he's not the only one to sacrifice. You gotta
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think at times Jr. Was struggling playing getting minutes, Kyle
Gorver was struggling getting minute that time, and uh so
that was like a slapping everybody else's face. Was Ben sacrifices.
Why didn't they Why don't they find him? Why don't
they suspend him? Why they just I'm like, look, I
understand that the you could say, hey, the fine or
the suspension that's coming this summer when he's a restricted
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free agent, But I mean they basically did nothing. Yeah,
well you know what I think they're doing. They're they're
not doing nothing now because they're gonna do something later.
He probably they're gonna find a way to get him
out of here. Roddy Uh, Roddy hood is Uh obviously
refused to come in the game. Um Eddie House. Joining
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us of the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio,
I said, to start the show, I thought the series
is more about Toronto. Look, they're flawed in construction, right.
You got Valanciunis. When the Calves play small, he can't.
He's useless when the Calves play small, right, And now
all of a sudden, they're playing backups to guard Lebron,
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which becomes a huge mismatch for Lebron. James. You know
when you move your shop blocker over to to to
guard Kevin Love. So some of it is in constr ruction,
but a lot of it look a lot of it
is in that's who the Raptors are, like they this
is who they are in the playoffs, there are What
is it about the Raptors that limits them in the
postseason from your perspective, but I don't think they have
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any multiple superstars. They got really good players, the Mark,
the Rose, and I wouldn't call them a superstar. Um.
They relied heavily on their bench. And what one thing
we do know in the playoffs, what usually happens the
rotation shrink Guys that were getting the twelve to four
teen minutes earlier in the year, you could depend on
them earlier in the year against the seconds. Well, the
minutes aren't going around like that, the bench shrink um.
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The other team's gonna play their stars way more so.
Those bench players who were getting off against bench players
are now going up against the stars. And to your point,
you have backup players Guarden, Lebron, James mismatch all day.
I just think, really, I psychologically I think Toronto just
uh they can't get over the hurdle uh mentally over Lebron.
I think Game one just that that basically sealed the
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deal from for them. They weren't able to even though
they went that the second game it was tight, but
I don't think mentally they'd have an edge if they
didn't get that game one. It was all bad. That's
what I thought, and that's what happened. Um, it was
just there a perfect storm for for the if you
if you look at it, they're a perfect storm for
the calves. And you know, especially the way the caps
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are constructed. Kevin Love was able to get into paint
and get off. He wasn't able to do that against Indiana.
So I just think they have they have some reevaluating
to doing it. It's tough. I mean, it's hard to
land a superstar up there. You gotta get taxed. The
tax is high up there, the weather is bad. I
mean you would I wouldn't want to go if I
had an opportunity to go somewhere else. Yeah, I think
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they're their best Their best option is to get if
they're a Canadian guy, they can bring back, right, Like
that's the whole Hey, you and I. Everybody likes visiting Toronto,
but most people guys don't want to. Like every NBA
guys like, man, I love visiting Toronto. You want to
go play up there like nah nah, I mean, maybe
do you make a move for a Wiggins? I mean,
is that is that what? But he doesn't put you
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don't think he puts you over the time. He's gonna
probably put butts in the seats. But I mean we've
seen him in the playoffs this year. He looks suspect.
So now you've got two gods kind of like that
don't show up in big moments, the Rosen and Wiggins.
I mean, that's not gonna that's not gonna get it done.
I agree with you. I just you know, at some
point you gotta try something different. Right, the same thing
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expecting a different result is the and and trying the
same thing over and over again is the definition of insanity.
I just I don't know exactly what to do, but
maybe that's which Maybe you take the pressure off Wiggins
by putting him with the Rosen and find a way
to do it that way. I just don't know if
there's a deal to be made with Minnesota Eddie House
joining us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Obviously, the Sixers
staved off elimination playing their own backup point guard and
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teaching McConnell. It moves, it moves Simmons off the ball,
kind of changes that dynamic. Um. Is there any chance
they come back and win this series? I don't think so.
I mean, I think they can maybe get a sneak
one more game, but that would be tough. You know
how good Boston been in these playoffs at home and
how bad they conversely, how bad they've been on the road.
So it's gonna stick the script. I believe. I think
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they'll go back. I don't think they have a chance.
I think, uh, what what happened with the two best
players for Boston going out? It gave opportunity for Terry
Rosier to emerge, for Morris to play better, for Jason
Brown and Jason Tatum to Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
be guys that they leaning all heavily an ice though
game and then Al Horford being able to get it done,
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and Brad Stevens. We all agreed, wizard fantastic coach over
there on the sideline. But it's also a system and
his players. You have to have talent and the right
type of players to make sure that your system is
followed through from top to bottom. And I think that
that's the best thing that that Boston has gone for
him is a system, is a good coaching and the
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opportunity for these junk players not to be scared and
take advantage of their moment that they're getting. Otherwise they
might not have the extending minutes, like a Terry Rosier,
Kyrie Plain, he might not have those extending minutes Jaylen
Brown or Jason Taton with Gordon Hayward there, they might
not have those extending minutes, but they have can't come
invaluable to them because they have had an opportunity to
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get out there and play throughout this whole year and
then also in these playoffs and some of these type
playoff games as well. Edie, how do they match up
with with the Calves? Well, I mean, I'm always going
with the best players on the planet. I think they
match up well for for this reason. They do have
guys that can score off the dribble. They can make
create their own shot and not only for theirselves but
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for others, for others as well. I think that's the
manage that they have. The only person that really creates
for the Calves is Lebron James, and I think the
best approach. I thought Indiana hit it right on the head.
How to guard the calves and how to make them struggle.
Let Lebron get off. He's gonna do his thing, But
you can't have twelves and fifteens and eight teens and
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twenty twos from all the role players. You have to limit.
You know what Lebron's gonna get, because you're not gonna
be able to stop him. But you have to limit
the role players. And how you do that you do
not allow them to get in the rhythm early by
getting wide up his shots and paint so much attention
to Lebron because he's a willing pastor. He's a facilitator first,
so he see and he thinks. So he's standing over
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the defense and he's able to pick you apart get
his guys in rhythm. And that's why I think this
this series, he really didn't have to do too much.
I mean, he stunk it up pretty much as far
as shooting the ball from three only, but again he
was able to get his guys off, and that's all
they needed. Now they move on to the next round.
I think the best way to play them is that approach.
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But is that gonna get it done. I wouldn't bet
against that. I wouldn't bet against Lebron either, but I
do think it makes it super interesting. All right, let's
go to the West, uh Clinton, Clint Compel has been great,
but you Clint Copella can playing that series because they
have Rudy Gobert right there, both rent protectors role guys.
Can Clint Capella be effective in the Warriors series, especially
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when they go small? Well? I think, well, the Warriors.
I think that they might try to match up with
click Compel at first and then they might change it
off dependence, But I just it's just too the only
thing that Houston has. I think that we'll give him
a shot. And I've been saying this their own. They're
the only team I think that is capable of matching
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that three point shots. They have about six to seven
guys that can knock that can hit three, about four
guys that are knocked down three point shooters. So with
that being with with that dynamic that they have over there,
that gives them a punch of chance to me to
be within the game because they can knock down match
for me. But I just don't think the Warriors just
have too much. You were saying earlier that you think
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Kevin Durant is better than Lebron as a player right now.
So you have that, plus you have another two time
m v P all start as a knockdown shooter, and
then Draymond who does all the dirty work. I mean,
Draymond could pass. He I mean, he's a hell of
a basketball player, and you know, you like I like
his nasty and this his readiness. But he just plays
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the game extremely well and he knows where everybody is.
He gets everybody off. I just don't there's not enough.
Warriors has got too much over there. I I tend
to agree with you. I mean, like, look, if Draymond
can't hit any shots, and you can, you know, you
can play in the lane off him. Maybe maybe you
give him a shot. But he is he's he's hit
enough to keep you honest here in the playoffs, which
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leads him to believe he's gonna hit enough again, as
opposed to like a p. J. Tucker who's still not
making his shots. Like he's there. Draymond, he's just not
as effective defensively. Inside He's not as good as shooter,
especially in big spots in the playoffs. And he's not
as good as good of a pastor. And you and
how you would say playoff of Draymond and dare him
to shoot the three. You gotta remember he has Clay
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k D and step on the wing. He's just gonna
go right into a drip on handoff. You're playing so
far off him because he's a smart player high basketball
i Q he can read. Again, if you want to playoff,
I'm not gonna forced his three. I'm just gonna go
drible hand off. You're so far back, they're gonna come
off with a wide open, clean shot, which is that's
the beauty of what they have over there. Yeah, Eddie House,
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Eddie House joining us on the Doug Gotli Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Eddie, Eddie, last thing? Um, Ben
Simmons shooting. How do you fix it? You gotta just
be in a gym at first. It gotta it starts
with compidence. You know, that's like you need. I gotta
have ultimate confidence. Um. You have to figure out what's
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comfortable and where can you get your shots to be
comfortable where? And you know if they're stagging off, you
don't have to always shoot that three. You can take
a step in because I'm gonna take a deuce over
a midst three any day. I mean, yeah. The only
the only thing though, is he does this thing and
look as as a guy who was a bad shooter
in college, I would do the same thing where you're
wide open, but instead of just catching and shooting it,
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he'll like take a dribble like he's gonna get a
better shot, and it ends up becoming a worse shot.
Just catch and shoot it. You're much more likely wherever
you are to make it on a catch and shoot
than you are off the dribble, especially if it's uncontested.
Sometimes the dribble gives you a them you know, just
a nice like step hear rhythm, like when you're shooting
free throws. People tend to tend to dribble when they're
shooting free throws. But um, yeah, I just think that
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he just got to get a lab man, and he
You can't go to the lab and just say, hey,
I'm gonna get up a thousand shots and make two hundreds. No,
if you get up a thousand shots, you gotta be
setting your goals. You gotta make more more than happier shot,
especially a guy like him starting off gotta make more
than half your shots. He want to get up to
about six hundreds and thirty. If he can do that consistently,
that data definitely improve it. Which it sounds um a
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lot easier than easier said than done, But he could
definitely get that done. He has plenty of time to
do it. I'm thinking that's the only way. And surround
himself with good shooters while they're they're having shooting drills.
Make it competitive. Do something, you know, you gotta find
some kind of edge anyway you can do you do
you have them shoot right handed? I mean he he
shoots everything right handed inside the lane anyway, he keeps
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trying to shoot left handed jump shots. He's ambidextrous. Why
not just haven't shoot right handed in the offseason? Well,
it was ever comfortable, like whatever you've been doing for
this long, Let's let's try to fix Let's let's fix that.
Let's not try to have restarted all over. Recalibrate your
brain to say, man, you gotta okay, now start here.
You gotta keep the elbow in over here when everything
is you know what I mean? I just feel like
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you stick with what he's been doing. What he feels
it is comfortable what comes to him naturally, and then
work on it from near great stuff Eddie House joining us,
Eddie great Stuff. Thanks so much. You're doing us man
all good. Thanks for having you, Edie House. Fox Sports
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is a really good job. So it is last piece.
He He wrote that there are people not in the Thunder,
but people in the NBA who think the Thunder should
consider trading Russell west Now here's the first part, and
this is important. You consider everything. You consider everything. Hey,
would you consider moving your show to this? I'll consider it.
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I mean I'm gonna do it, but smart people consider things.
Consider it. What is the offer in return for Russell Westbrook?
Let me consider it. If the offer is, Hey, I'm
gonna give you Chris stops Perzingis, I'm gonna give you
a Tim Hardaway Jr. And the Knicks lottery pick. I considered.
I still probably pass because I'm not convinced Prozingis is
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won a superstar, and too, I have no idea his
level of health, but I consider it I also think,
and this is really interesting anyone who's ever done an
NBA draft. I used to have this discussion with my
buddy Ryan Rossilo, and Roussillo used to say, so, I'll
make sure I give credit where it's due. And he
also say, you know who always tells you what they
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would do in the top five picks in the lottery.
Guys they would take guys. They wouldn't take guys that
aren't in the top five of the lottery. I wouldn't
touch him. That's right, because you're picking right, Oh, I
take that guy to Harpeat. Yeah, but you're you're drafting seventeenth.
He ain't gonna be there. You're talking about something you're
It's like the guy talking about a party that he
would never get invited to. I can't believe they have
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a kegger for a bunch of forty year olds. Hey,
you didn't get invited. He can't invited. So other people
in the NBA going like, man, they should really move
on from Russell Westbrook. That's because you don't have Russell Westbrook.
I'm not saying Russell westbrooks perfect. I don't think he's
easy to coach. And then I think he's easy to manage.
I do think you're in a a sweet spot if
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you're Oklahoma City. And here's why, uh ramos. Do you
remember the comedian Yakov Smirnov. Yes, ye, knock enough. I
am comedian from Russia. Right. This is back when Russia
was Soviet Union Russia. He used to do this bit
about stay free. You know it's stay free, is right?
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Stay free? About how he always puts it at dinner
table because he wants to stay free. People come over
to the house. They don't understand you have a napkin
that gives you freedom, right Like, it's not like kind
of napkin. But he had this line about comedy in Russia.
You know the best thing about comedy in Russia you
have captive audience. They're not going anywhere, right, great line,
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Yakov Smirnoff, I believe has his own theater and jop
not jopping. Uh Branson, Missouri, Branson, Missouri, the Yakov Schmirnov
theater where Han Yakosh Mimirnof. He's in Branson. So and
Branson is like the Vegas of Missouri in Arkansas. So um. Anyway,
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the Yakov Schmirnov line reminds me of Russell Westbrook. He's
keptive audience. He's not going anywhere. Do you know why
I know that because Russell Westbrook signed the biggest extension
in the history of the NBA this past offseason. It's
a five year, two hundred and five million dollar extension,
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which I believe kicks in this year. So I got
him for five more years. Russell Westbrook is gaptive audience.
He's not going anywhere. And the thunder of double down
said Billy Donovan's coming back. So there's you need an approach,
and there's a two headed approach to it. The first
is he got us surround him with pieces that can
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get the best out of him. My guests would be
another ball handler that he can trust, that can move
him off the ball. Now, Russell Westbrook might not want
to be coached, but you got to coach him anyway. Hey, dude,
we try it your way. You've been here almost a
decade and Harden is gone, Kadi's gone, Oladipo's gone, Paul
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George has probably gone. You have a world of talent.
You're not going anywhere for a while, so why don't
you try and do it our way? And the way
to do that is to coach him, put a team
or around him with ancillary pieces, much the way that
the Calves have been built around Lebron James. I get
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guys that are versatile, that can switch defensively, that can
all shoot, And when Russell goes into his Russell routine
and no one else touches the basketball, howd he comes.
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and the I Heart Radio app. Don't do the n
A players are like slaves. Wendell Carter is a spectacular
kid and a really good player who's going to be
a lottery pick after one year at Duke Kalia. Carter
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is a former student athlete. I believe it old miss
who spoke at the Night Commission yesterday. Here were her
comments afterwards, pull back the layers. The problem that I
see is not with the student athlete. It's not with
the coaches at the institutions of higher learning, but it's
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with a system, like the only system that I have
ever seen, where the laborers are the only people that
are not being compensated for the work that they do. Wow,
those in charge receive mighty compensation. The only two things,
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the only two systems where I've known that to be
in places slavery and the prison system. Mm hm prison system, yes, slavery,
mm hmm. She also essentially said that all the all
players are black, which are not um And she starts
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by saying it's not the coaches, it's the system, but
then she indicts the coaches for the amount of money
that they make. There's a lot of people that will say, well,
Mike Schefski makes seven point two million dollars. That is
a lot of money. Mike Chefsky has also been a
duke for thirty eight years. Thirty eight years, So forget
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about the amount of success that he's had, the number
of lives that he's touched, or the fact that most
of the value, true value in college athletics is the
uniform and the coach. That's what we sell. We get
to learn about the players by the way. Interns collect
no no money. We had interns here too, two at
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at Fox Sports who just finished last week with two
two of them right, three of them? Who's the other one?
Cooper Landing and Spencer how much money at Cooper Landing
and Spencer make zero? Landing zero, Spencer zero. Um, please
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don't do the slavery thing. It's offensive, it's inaccurate, and
the idea that basketball players get nothing. Dude, your kid
was on campus for six months. First of all, Window
Carter is a good kid. A good player is gonna
be a lottery pick. This is not an attack on
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on her. It's an attack on the idea that she
clearly as not seeing the world through an accurate lens.
Just isn't now. I know that your heart says Wendell
Carter should be able to sell his name in likeness.
Had any you guys ever heard of Window Carter before
this year? Do you know why you heard of Window
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Carter because he played a duke? Don't tell me that
they there's no value, They don't get anything. They're not slaves.
Nobody forces them to do it. Slave labor was just
that you were kidnapped from a country where you grew up.
You were brought on ships where people would commit suicide
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because they knew what waited for them. You were beaten,
you were held, You were forced to create children and
then work until your your skin was bare and fed
the bare minimum plays stop. It's offensive, it's bothersome as
somebody who is completely and totally uh sensitive to the idea.
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There's an incredible education inequality in our country. There is
no fight for education equality. There are places in this
country where Helen Flinton, you can't even get clean water,
let alone education, where you start out and you have
no shot. Why because there ain't ain't chance of getting
out of there. And this is the best possible chance
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we have of educating as many people of diverse backgrounds
as possible. It's the second biggest scholarship program in the
history of the United States, to the g I Bill.
That's how many people benefit from it. And benefit is payment.
It is a payment. It is tax free. All you
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gotta do is show up and play a sport you
love to play and get better coaching, better education, better food,
better uh better gear, better dormitories, better school, better academic
health than you could ever get elsewhere. And people have
the nerve, the hutzpah, the balls to go. You know,
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it's a lot like slavery. Please stop. It is akin
to people who have lived it, to people who deal
with it, to people I talked to in administrations, coaches
or whatever. It's more expensive too. It's hard to get
into and by the way states are funded and schools
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are funding athletic programs, less and less people have to
live on their own just because sports has billion dollar
deals for huge conferences paid out over twenty years. Yeah, dude,
you get more money, but those are twenty year deals
paid out to fourteen schools. You break it down, it's
a good chunk of money. They have to pay for
the stadiums, they had to pay for the scholarships, they
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have to pay for the coaches, they have to pay
for the trainers, they have to pay for the academic services.
They have to pay for all of the other member
Title nine, all the women's sports, then the non revenue
generating sports. And do some coaches who generate a ton
of the income benefit from it after all life's work.
Yes they do. But you know what that's not. That's
not slavery, that's reality. No one forces you, No one
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forces you to do it. If you don't value it,
if you don't understand what it can create, if if
if Wen o'carter's mom isn't smart enough to understand that
her son is a dukie that doesn't leave. You know
what else is a dukie? Not just Mike Tachevski. You
know Adam Silver Suduki. Do you know there are there
are centers, There are champions of business as well as
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broadcasters and coaches were all dukies, and they all take
care of one another. You're getting a you're getting a
key open that door. That's why you go there. And
oh yeah, by the way, I didn't know when Will
Carter existed in this world until he played for Duke.
And now he'll be a lottery pick potentially making generational
wealth in about four or five years. So forgive me
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if I get offended by the fact that somebody is
completely factually inaccurate. She also went on to say, like,
why don't they make you get an education? Like, what
are you talking about? They do the best they can.
We cannot hold you hostage and make you get an education. Right.
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I missed the part that said you had to go
to the kid didn't even want to go to the
NLVA NBA draft. I don't know if I've meaned Wendell
Carter didn't want to go. He liked Duke so much
he wanted to stay and his parents are like, now
you gotta go okay, but it's our fault. By the way, Wendow,
Carter can come back anytime he wants beyond scholarship, get
his degree anytime once, whether playing off season, train there,
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whether it's after he's done playing for ten fifteen years
in the NBA. It's the greatest deal ever and it
keeps getting better. But here's the problem with it. The
only problem is human nature. We all want more, which
is why no five thousand all or ten thousand all
or fifteen thousand dollar payment will ever change people wanting more.
That's what people that want more and college have said.
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This is what we're giving you. We're giving your room board,
tuition and cost ptenance, a little money in your pocket.
Plus you get per diem, you get all this other stuff.
You work camp, you get more money. You always have
cash in your pocket, You always have good gear, you
always have the best of everything. You fly, you fly
around with your team. You get to travel overseas, travel
all these great cities. We promote your brand. All you
gotta do a show twenty hours a week, eight hours
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in the off season. That's it, and you get an
education at last year lifetime you tell me how that's
comfortable to slavery or the prison system.
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of Angels. Where we are waiting Lebron James. Might be
like waiting on GOODO or Lebron never shows up, We'll
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still be waiting here. Speaking of Lebron, tell me if
you've heard this before, but Lebron swept the Raptors does
feel like everything like, man, is this groundhog Day? No,
I'm not Bill Murray. This is not groundhog Day. The
Raptors were beating one three yesterday. Sixers did stave office
sweep as they played our boy teaching McConnell and uh
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and got a home win to force the Game five.
Speaking of Game five's home game for the Warriors, that
one feels over. Home game for the Rockets, That one
feels over, and eventually we'll get We'll get back around
to what we thought would happen to start year. The
only difference, the only surprise, would be that the Boston
Celtics could be in the Eastern Conference Finals without Gordon Hayward,
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without Kyrie Irving. Outside of that, had I started the
year and said, Hey, the Calves and the Celtics, you
would have said, yeah, okay. Had I started the year
and said the Warriors and the Rockets, he was said yeah, okay.
So it wasn't about Lebron. Lebron shot wait for it,
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Fife from three point range in the in the four
game series, they barely played Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkston, Heck
Rodney Hood refused to go in the game last night
for the Cleveland Cavaliers, like said's three rotation players basically useless.
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And the Raptors were swept four games tonight. So I'd
like to make this about Lebron James, Lebron James, Lebron James,
that Lebron James. But really it's about the Toronto Raptors.
Who they are, who we thought they were. That's it.
They are exactly who we thought they were. And you
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can come at me with the you know, regular season, dude,
the Hawks once had the best regular record in the
regular season, the Bulls once had the record in the
regular season. Last year, the Celtics had the best record
in the regular season, and nobody thought they were the
best team. And had Rondo not gotten hurt. They would
have been beaten by the Chicago Bulls because they were
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beating two games none in Chicago to start the series.
So we can make this about Lebron. It's really about
the Raptors. This is who the Raptors are. Cool story,
you got, Drake, You are the North which feels like
really bad English, but maybe it works in Canada. I'm
not sure that the Queen's English. But what we see
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is a team that wins a bunch of games that
nobody takes seriously and now they've been eliminated. Dinosaurs Extinct
May seven, two thousand eighteen. That series was about the Raptors,
not about this, not about the calves, not about We
can make it about Lebron stealing game one, hitting the
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runner in game three, but really it's about the Raptors.
You couldn't win one game, not one. You couldn't find
a way to win one game. Nope. Now, the one
really interesting part of the Cavaliers is the rodney Hood deal.
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Right Like, if I'm Lebron James and today I wake
up and rodney Hood refused to go in the game
last night because he's falling out of the rotation and
he felt like he's too good to be playing mop
up duty, Like that's fine, we can handle that. But
for the Calves to not suspend, not find him, what
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what sort of culture are we instilling? How does it
become okay? And to anyone who says, well, he listened,
the real fine is gonna be the offseason when he
doesn't get nearly as big a deal as he would
have gotten, and by this getting out he gets embarrasses him.
All that's true. But if I want to build a
consistent winner, and I want a guy who I need
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to have bought in because you never know when you're
gonna go to him, You just don't know. You go
to a six or seventh game with the buston Celtics
and you're gonna have to use your look at these
Once you get fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh game in these series,
you start using guys you didn't use before because a
couple of guys are out of gas. And and to
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not instill the culture in your franchise that that is
completely and utterly and totally unacceptable, unacceptable. He is unacceptable,
all right? Like, wait, I don't want to go in
the game because I'm what's the term I believe the
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kids term, you know, the kid's sermon for this one
in his ramos. I believe but her would be the
the kids term. All right, I believe that's what it is,
because I'm but heard over the fact that I did.
I'm no longer in the rotation. I'm the petulant child
that's mad because I went from Game one starter against
the Pacers too. I'm a scrub, I'm a mop up dude.
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Guess what this is the deal? This is the deal.
So roddy hood, we can ship you off to Atlanta,
to Brooklyn, to one of these other franchises. That's fine
with losing in the off season the meantime, how do
you not hold him accountable? How is he not fine
and suspended today? Even if ultimately it becomes a slap
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in the wrist, a game one suspension, a game he
wouldn't have played in. How do you not do that?
How does that become acceptable behavior? And while part of
me wonders if Lebron James secretly loves this, dude, I
love this idea. I love this idea of me being
a guy who can lift up a franchise. Think of
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the credit he is getting for beating a team that
everyone thought he was going to beat. I love when
we're sitting there, going, I can't believe, Lebron, did you
actually think Toronto was gonna win the playoffs? Like last
week Nick Nick right came on and I said, like, dude,
can he continue to carry a friend? Who do you
think is gonna win? Like, yeah, I think I think
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the Calves. Why because they're the Raptors, zero faith that
they'll win important games in the playoffs, and that has
played out as such. But think of the credit that
Lebron James has a right, Like Lebron James misses a
couple of key free throws, makes a runner in a
tie game Game three at home, a game that they
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nearly spit up and cost themselves, and we and we
start playing footage of different Jordan's moments and like, see
he's like Michael Jordan's or he's just beating the He's
been beating the Raptors, who everyone knew we're gonna be beaten,
including the Raptors. So I guess the one thing in
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my mind is does Lebron like the fact that he's
quote unquote overachieving with this Calvs roster where he gets
a lot more credit as opposed to you go to
the West, you play with the Lakers, you had a
couple of stars, and now you're expected two win a championship,
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compete for a championship in the West, which is far
more difficult. So the Raptors are who we thought they were.
The Calves are who we thought they were. I'm a
little bit bothered, more than a little bit bothered by
the lack of culture being instilled with what one player,
Rodney Hood pulled last night. And I just wondered today
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if Lebron's like, hey, you know what, it's kind of
better being on the underdog and getting to the finals
then it is being on the favorite and competing and
falling short of the finals. I just wonder, how about
teaching McConnell last night, Right, McConnell fits into that kind
of classic First, he's the classic true point guard. But
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if you look at backups, and I remember when Matthew
Dellavedova was was the backup you had to become a starter.
Because Kyrie got hurt against the Warriors in the finals.
This is going back to two years ago or three
years ago. Actually three years ago, people went crazy because teaching.
McConnell was diving on the floor and he thought they
were he was taking out people's legs. And my point
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then is my point now, those guys wouldn't be in
the league if they didn't make those plays. They weren't
a little bit tougher, borderline a little bit crazy and
made the and and put their body out there to
which other starters with more athletic talent, sometimes more skill,
aren't willing to do. We had Patrick Beverley on two
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weeks ago. He's the same guy. Forget skin color. Being
a backup means you've got to kind of have a
level of psycho to you to which you you you're
you believe that you should be a starter. You're willing
to compete and willing to fight anybody in the gym
to show you're a starter. And McConnell showed that that
he could be one last night in a pinch in
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pinch Duty, much the way that Delhi showed us at
times in pinch Duty, much the way that Patrick Beverley
has showed us in pinch Duty. That's not their best role,
but that's why they've made it. That's why they've stuck.
When there are other guys that are taller, shoot better,
maybe more elegant, more flamboyant, more athletic, that haven't penned up.
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Eddie House Joints. Of course, Eddie could have gone anywhere
in the country. Out of high school. He went to
Arizona State, And I'm I'm just wondering, Eddie, do you
do you think that's a like that there's the Hey,
are you better off staying in Cleveland where you might
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not win another title, but you might get to championships
several times. You might have one or two shots if
you stay healthy, or going to a place like the
Lakers are going to the Sixers, where you can surround
yourself with better talent, but you're gonna have to kind
of remake a team, remake their culture and try to
make that run all over again. Um, I think I
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probably will. I would stay where I'm at instead of
because it's not guaranteed, guaranteed that you being able to
stay in Cleveland and surround yourself with with a cast
and you're gonna get to the to the finals. Somehow,
I'm not sure that if you you could depend on
some of those guys, um, even though they're there, are
a lot more talents, better talent, But like going to Philly,
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similar skill set. Both play with the ball in their hands.
And you see Ben Simmons coming off of pen downs.
Can you see Penn Simmons playing off the ball. It's
hard for me to see that. So with the Lakers,
same thing. You want Linzo playing off the ball. I
think he's better. I would stay in Cleveland just for me.
Uh all right, So look, you've been on teams before,
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you've been on Lebronze teams before. How do you think
he feels about Rodney Hood refusing to come out the
bench last night? Oh? Man, I think everybody is probably
extremely upset about that, because if they're not the only one,
they're not the only ones that set there and and sacrifice.
Mean he's not the only one to sacrifice. You gotta
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think at times Jr. Was struggling playing getting minutes, Kyle
Gorver was struggling getting minute that time, and uh so
that was like a slapping everybody else's face. Was Ben sacrifices.
Why didn't they Why don't they find him? Why don't
they suspend him? Why they just I'm like, look, I
understand that the you could say, hey, the fine or
the suspension that's coming this summer when he's a restricted
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free agent, But I mean they basically did nothing. Yeah,
well you know what I think they're doing. They're they're
not doing nothing now because they're gonna do something later.
He probably they're gonna find a way to get him
out of here. Roddy Uh, Roddy hood is Uh obviously
refused to come in the game. Um Eddie House. Joining
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us of the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio,
I said, to start the show, I thought the series
is more about Toronto. Look, they're flawed in construction, right.
You got Valanciunis. When the Calves play small, he can't.
He's useless when the Calves play small, right, And now
all of a sudden, they're playing backups to guard Lebron,
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which becomes a huge mismatch for Lebron. James. You know
when you move your shop blocker over to to to
guard Kevin Love. So some of it is in constr ruction,
but a lot of it look a lot of it
is in that's who the Raptors are, like they this
is who they are in the playoffs, there are What
is it about the Raptors that limits them in the
postseason from your perspective, but I don't think they have
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any multiple superstars. They got really good players, the Mark,
the Rose, and I wouldn't call them a superstar. Um.
They relied heavily on their bench. And what one thing
we do know in the playoffs, what usually happens the
rotation shrink Guys that were getting the twelve to four
teen minutes earlier in the year, you could depend on
them earlier in the year against the seconds. Well, the
minutes aren't going around like that, the bench shrink um.
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The other team's gonna play their stars way more so.
Those bench players who were getting off against bench players
are now going up against the stars. And to your point,
you have backup players Guarden, Lebron, James mismatch all day.
I just think, really, I psychologically I think Toronto just
uh they can't get over the hurdle uh mentally over Lebron.
I think Game one just that that basically sealed the
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deal from for them. They weren't able to even though
they went that the second game it was tight, but
I don't think mentally they'd have an edge if they
didn't get that game one. It was all bad. That's
what I thought, and that's what happened. Um, it was
just there a perfect storm for for the if you
if you look at it, they're a perfect storm for
the calves. And you know, especially the way the caps
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are constructed. Kevin Love was able to get into paint
and get off. He wasn't able to do that against Indiana.
So I just think they have they have some reevaluating
to doing it. It's tough. I mean, it's hard to
land a superstar up there. You gotta get taxed. The
tax is high up there, the weather is bad. I
mean you would I wouldn't want to go if I
had an opportunity to go somewhere else. Yeah, I think
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they're their best Their best option is to get if
they're a Canadian guy, they can bring back, right, Like
that's the whole Hey, you and I. Everybody likes visiting Toronto,
but most people guys don't want to. Like every NBA
guys like, man, I love visiting Toronto. You want to
go play up there like nah nah, I mean, maybe
do you make a move for a Wiggins? I mean,
is that is that what? But he doesn't put you
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don't think he puts you over the time. He's gonna
probably put butts in the seats. But I mean we've
seen him in the playoffs this year. He looks suspect.
So now you've got two gods kind of like that
don't show up in big moments, the Rosen and Wiggins.
I mean, that's not gonna that's not gonna get it done.
I agree with you. I just you know, at some
point you gotta try something different. Right, the same thing
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expecting a different result is the and and trying the
same thing over and over again is the definition of insanity.
I just I don't know exactly what to do, but
maybe that's which Maybe you take the pressure off Wiggins
by putting him with the Rosen and find a way
to do it that way. I just don't know if
there's a deal to be made with Minnesota Eddie House
joining us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Obviously, the Sixers
staved off elimination playing their own backup point guard and
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teaching McConnell. It moves, it moves Simmons off the ball,
kind of changes that dynamic. Um. Is there any chance
they come back and win this series? I don't think so.
I mean, I think they can maybe get a sneak
one more game, but that would be tough. You know
how good Boston been in these playoffs at home and
how bad they conversely, how bad they've been on the road.
So it's gonna stick the script. I believe. I think
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they'll go back. I don't think they have a chance.
I think, uh, what what happened with the two best
players for Boston going out? It gave opportunity for Terry
Rosier to emerge, for Morris to play better, for Jason
Brown and Jason Tatum to Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
be guys that they leaning all heavily an ice though
game and then Al Horford being able to get it done,
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and Brad Stevens. We all agreed, wizard fantastic coach over
there on the sideline. But it's also a system and
his players. You have to have talent and the right
type of players to make sure that your system is
followed through from top to bottom. And I think that
that's the best thing that that Boston has gone for
him is a system, is a good coaching and the
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opportunity for these junk players not to be scared and
take advantage of their moment that they're getting. Otherwise they
might not have the extending minutes, like a Terry Rosier,
Kyrie Plain, he might not have those extending minutes Jaylen
Brown or Jason Taton with Gordon Hayward there, they might
not have those extending minutes, but they have can't come
invaluable to them because they have had an opportunity to
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get out there and play throughout this whole year and
then also in these playoffs and some of these type
playoff games as well. Edie, how do they match up
with with the Calves? Well, I mean, I'm always going
with the best players on the planet. I think they
match up well for for this reason. They do have
guys that can score off the dribble. They can make
create their own shot and not only for theirselves but
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for others, for others as well. I think that's the
manage that they have. The only person that really creates
for the Calves is Lebron James, and I think the
best approach. I thought Indiana hit it right on the head.
How to guard the calves and how to make them struggle.
Let Lebron get off. He's gonna do his thing, But
you can't have twelves and fifteens and eight teens and
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twenty twos from all the role players. You have to limit.
You know what Lebron's gonna get, because you're not gonna
be able to stop him. But you have to limit
the role players. And how you do that you do
not allow them to get in the rhythm early by
getting wide up his shots and paint so much attention
to Lebron because he's a willing pastor. He's a facilitator first,
so he see and he thinks. So he's standing over
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the defense and he's able to pick you apart get
his guys in rhythm. And that's why I think this
this series, he really didn't have to do too much.
I mean, he stunk it up pretty much as far
as shooting the ball from three only, but again he
was able to get his guys off, and that's all
they needed. Now they move on to the next round.
I think the best way to play them is that approach.
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But is that gonna get it done. I wouldn't bet
against that. I wouldn't bet against Lebron either, but I
do think it makes it super interesting. All right, let's
go to the West, uh Clinton, Clint Compel has been great,
but you Clint Copella can playing that series because they
have Rudy Gobert right there, both rent protectors role guys.
Can Clint Capella be effective in the Warriors series, especially
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when they go small? Well? I think, well, the Warriors.
I think that they might try to match up with
click Compel at first and then they might change it
off dependence, But I just it's just too the only
thing that Houston has. I think that we'll give him
a shot. And I've been saying this their own. They're
the only team I think that is capable of matching
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that three point shots. They have about six to seven
guys that can knock that can hit three, about four
guys that are knocked down three point shooters. So with
that being with with that dynamic that they have over there,
that gives them a punch of chance to me to
be within the game because they can knock down match
for me. But I just don't think the Warriors just
have too much. You were saying earlier that you think
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Kevin Durant is better than Lebron as a player right now.
So you have that, plus you have another two time
m v P all start as a knockdown shooter, and
then Draymond who does all the dirty work. I mean,
Draymond could pass. He I mean, he's a hell of
a basketball player, and you know, you like I like
his nasty and this his readiness. But he just plays
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the game extremely well and he knows where everybody is.
He gets everybody off. I just don't there's not enough.
Warriors has got too much over there. I I tend
to agree with you. I mean, like, look, if Draymond
can't hit any shots, and you can, you know, you
can play in the lane off him. Maybe maybe you
give him a shot. But he is he's he's hit
enough to keep you honest here in the playoffs, which
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leads him to believe he's gonna hit enough again, as
opposed to like a p. J. Tucker who's still not
making his shots. Like he's there. Draymond, he's just not
as effective defensively. Inside He's not as good as shooter,
especially in big spots in the playoffs. And he's not
as good as good of a pastor. And you and
how you would say playoff of Draymond and dare him
to shoot the three. You gotta remember he has Clay
(20:44):
k D and step on the wing. He's just gonna
go right into a drip on handoff. You're playing so
far off him because he's a smart player high basketball
i Q he can read. Again, if you want to playoff,
I'm not gonna forced his three. I'm just gonna go
drible hand off. You're so far back, they're gonna come
off with a wide open, clean shot, which is that's
the beauty of what they have over there. Yeah, Eddie House,
(21:05):
Eddie House joining us on the Doug Gotli Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Eddie, Eddie, last thing? Um, Ben
Simmons shooting. How do you fix it? You gotta just
be in a gym at first. It gotta it starts
with compidence. You know, that's like you need. I gotta
have ultimate confidence. Um. You have to figure out what's
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comfortable and where can you get your shots to be
comfortable where? And you know if they're stagging off, you
don't have to always shoot that three. You can take
a step in because I'm gonna take a deuce over
a midst three any day. I mean, yeah. The only
the only thing though, is he does this thing and
look as as a guy who was a bad shooter
in college, I would do the same thing where you're
wide open, but instead of just catching and shooting it,
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he'll like take a dribble like he's gonna get a
better shot, and it ends up becoming a worse shot.
Just catch and shoot it. You're much more likely wherever
you are to make it on a catch and shoot
than you are off the dribble, especially if it's uncontested.
Sometimes the dribble gives you a them you know, just
a nice like step hear rhythm, like when you're shooting
free throws. People tend to tend to dribble when they're
shooting free throws. But um, yeah, I just think that
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he just got to get a lab man, and he
You can't go to the lab and just say, hey,
I'm gonna get up a thousand shots and make two hundreds. No,
if you get up a thousand shots, you gotta be
setting your goals. You gotta make more more than happier shot,
especially a guy like him starting off gotta make more
than half your shots. He want to get up to
about six hundreds and thirty. If he can do that consistently,
that data definitely improve it. Which it sounds um a
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lot easier than easier said than done, But he could
definitely get that done. He has plenty of time to
do it. I'm thinking that's the only way. And surround
himself with good shooters while they're they're having shooting drills.
Make it competitive. Do something, you know, you gotta find
some kind of edge anyway you can do you do
you have them shoot right handed? I mean he he
shoots everything right handed inside the lane anyway, he keeps
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trying to shoot left handed jump shots. He's ambidextrous. Why
not just haven't shoot right handed in the offseason? Well,
it was ever comfortable, like whatever you've been doing for
this long, Let's let's try to fix Let's let's fix that.
Let's not try to have restarted all over. Recalibrate your
brain to say, man, you gotta okay, now start here.
You gotta keep the elbow in over here when everything
is you know what I mean? I just feel like
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you stick with what he's been doing. What he feels
it is comfortable what comes to him naturally, and then
work on it from near great stuff Eddie House joining us,
Eddie great Stuff. Thanks so much. You're doing us man
all good. Thanks for having you, Edie House. Fox Sports
Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. That glowed
(23:36):
is a really good job. So it is last piece.
He He wrote that there are people not in the Thunder,
but people in the NBA who think the Thunder should
consider trading Russell west Now here's the first part, and
this is important. You consider everything. You consider everything. Hey,
would you consider moving your show to this? I'll consider it.
(23:57):
I mean I'm gonna do it, but smart people consider things.
Consider it. What is the offer in return for Russell Westbrook?
Let me consider it. If the offer is, Hey, I'm
gonna give you Chris stops Perzingis, I'm gonna give you
a Tim Hardaway Jr. And the Knicks lottery pick. I considered.
I still probably pass because I'm not convinced Prozingis is
(24:21):
won a superstar, and too, I have no idea his
level of health, but I consider it I also think,
and this is really interesting anyone who's ever done an
NBA draft. I used to have this discussion with my
buddy Ryan Rossilo, and Roussillo used to say, so, I'll
make sure I give credit where it's due. And he
also say, you know who always tells you what they
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would do in the top five picks in the lottery.
Guys they would take guys. They wouldn't take guys that
aren't in the top five of the lottery. I wouldn't
touch him. That's right, because you're picking right, Oh, I
take that guy to Harpeat. Yeah, but you're you're drafting seventeenth.
He ain't gonna be there. You're talking about something you're
It's like the guy talking about a party that he
would never get invited to. I can't believe they have
(25:06):
a kegger for a bunch of forty year olds. Hey,
you didn't get invited. He can't invited. So other people
in the NBA going like, man, they should really move
on from Russell Westbrook. That's because you don't have Russell Westbrook.
I'm not saying Russell westbrooks perfect. I don't think he's
easy to coach. And then I think he's easy to manage.
I do think you're in a a sweet spot if
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you're Oklahoma City. And here's why, uh ramos. Do you
remember the comedian Yakov Smirnov. Yes, ye, knock enough. I
am comedian from Russia. Right. This is back when Russia
was Soviet Union Russia. He used to do this bit
about stay free. You know it's stay free, is right?
(25:51):
Stay free? About how he always puts it at dinner
table because he wants to stay free. People come over
to the house. They don't understand you have a napkin
that gives you freedom, right Like, it's not like kind
of napkin. But he had this line about comedy in Russia.
You know the best thing about comedy in Russia you
have captive audience. They're not going anywhere, right, great line,
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Yakov Smirnoff, I believe has his own theater and jop
not jopping. Uh Branson, Missouri, Branson, Missouri, the Yakov Schmirnov
theater where Han Yakosh Mimirnof. He's in Branson. So and
Branson is like the Vegas of Missouri in Arkansas. So um. Anyway,
(26:34):
the Yakov Schmirnov line reminds me of Russell Westbrook. He's
keptive audience. He's not going anywhere. Do you know why
I know that because Russell Westbrook signed the biggest extension
in the history of the NBA this past offseason. It's
a five year, two hundred and five million dollar extension,
(26:57):
which I believe kicks in this year. So I got
him for five more years. Russell Westbrook is gaptive audience.
He's not going anywhere. And the thunder of double down
said Billy Donovan's coming back. So there's you need an approach,
and there's a two headed approach to it. The first
is he got us surround him with pieces that can
(27:20):
get the best out of him. My guests would be
another ball handler that he can trust, that can move
him off the ball. Now, Russell Westbrook might not want
to be coached, but you got to coach him anyway. Hey, dude,
we try it your way. You've been here almost a
decade and Harden is gone, Kadi's gone, Oladipo's gone, Paul
(27:43):
George has probably gone. You have a world of talent.
You're not going anywhere for a while, so why don't
you try and do it our way? And the way
to do that is to coach him, put a team
or around him with ancillary pieces, much the way that
the Calves have been built around Lebron James. I get
(28:06):
guys that are versatile, that can switch defensively, that can
all shoot, And when Russell goes into his Russell routine
and no one else touches the basketball, howd he comes.
He's captive audience. He's not going anywhere. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
(28:28):
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Don't do the n
A players are like slaves. Wendell Carter is a spectacular
kid and a really good player who's going to be
a lottery pick after one year at Duke Kalia. Carter
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is a former student athlete. I believe it old miss
who spoke at the Night Commission yesterday. Here were her
comments afterwards, pull back the layers. The problem that I
see is not with the student athlete. It's not with
the coaches at the institutions of higher learning, but it's
(29:13):
with a system, like the only system that I have
ever seen, where the laborers are the only people that
are not being compensated for the work that they do. Wow,
those in charge receive mighty compensation. The only two things,
(29:37):
the only two systems where I've known that to be
in places slavery and the prison system. Mm hm prison system, yes, slavery,
mm hmm. She also essentially said that all the all
players are black, which are not um And she starts
(29:59):
by saying it's not the coaches, it's the system, but
then she indicts the coaches for the amount of money
that they make. There's a lot of people that will say, well,
Mike Schefski makes seven point two million dollars. That is
a lot of money. Mike Chefsky has also been a
duke for thirty eight years. Thirty eight years, So forget
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about the amount of success that he's had, the number
of lives that he's touched, or the fact that most
of the value, true value in college athletics is the
uniform and the coach. That's what we sell. We get
to learn about the players by the way. Interns collect
no no money. We had interns here too, two at
(30:42):
at Fox Sports who just finished last week with two
two of them right, three of them? Who's the other one?
Cooper Landing and Spencer how much money at Cooper Landing
and Spencer make zero? Landing zero, Spencer zero. Um, please
(31:08):
don't do the slavery thing. It's offensive, it's inaccurate, and
the idea that basketball players get nothing. Dude, your kid
was on campus for six months. First of all, Window
Carter is a good kid. A good player is gonna
be a lottery pick. This is not an attack on
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on her. It's an attack on the idea that she
clearly as not seeing the world through an accurate lens.
Just isn't now. I know that your heart says Wendell
Carter should be able to sell his name in likeness.
Had any you guys ever heard of Window Carter before
this year? Do you know why you heard of Window
(31:52):
Carter because he played a duke? Don't tell me that
they there's no value, They don't get anything. They're not slaves.
Nobody forces them to do it. Slave labor was just
that you were kidnapped from a country where you grew up.
You were brought on ships where people would commit suicide
(32:13):
because they knew what waited for them. You were beaten,
you were held, You were forced to create children and
then work until your your skin was bare and fed
the bare minimum plays stop. It's offensive, it's bothersome as
somebody who is completely and totally uh sensitive to the idea.
(32:35):
There's an incredible education inequality in our country. There is
no fight for education equality. There are places in this
country where Helen Flinton, you can't even get clean water,
let alone education, where you start out and you have
no shot. Why because there ain't ain't chance of getting
out of there. And this is the best possible chance
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we have of educating as many people of diverse backgrounds
as possible. It's the second biggest scholarship program in the
history of the United States, to the g I Bill.
That's how many people benefit from it. And benefit is payment.
It is a payment. It is tax free. All you
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gotta do is show up and play a sport you
love to play and get better coaching, better education, better food,
better uh better gear, better dormitories, better school, better academic
health than you could ever get elsewhere. And people have
the nerve, the hutzpah, the balls to go. You know,
(33:39):
it's a lot like slavery. Please stop. It is akin
to people who have lived it, to people who deal
with it, to people I talked to in administrations, coaches
or whatever. It's more expensive too. It's hard to get
into and by the way states are funded and schools
(34:00):
are funding athletic programs, less and less people have to
live on their own just because sports has billion dollar
deals for huge conferences paid out over twenty years. Yeah, dude,
you get more money, but those are twenty year deals
paid out to fourteen schools. You break it down, it's
a good chunk of money. They have to pay for
the stadiums, they had to pay for the scholarships, they
(34:21):
have to pay for the coaches, they have to pay
for the trainers, they have to pay for the academic services.
They have to pay for all of the other member
Title nine, all the women's sports, then the non revenue
generating sports. And do some coaches who generate a ton
of the income benefit from it after all life's work.
Yes they do. But you know what that's not. That's
not slavery, that's reality. No one forces you, No one
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forces you to do it. If you don't value it,
if you don't understand what it can create, if if
if Wen o'carter's mom isn't smart enough to understand that
her son is a dukie that doesn't leave. You know
what else is a dukie? Not just Mike Tachevski. You
know Adam Silver Suduki. Do you know there are there
are centers, There are champions of business as well as
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broadcasters and coaches were all dukies, and they all take
care of one another. You're getting a you're getting a
key open that door. That's why you go there. And
oh yeah, by the way, I didn't know when Will
Carter existed in this world until he played for Duke.
And now he'll be a lottery pick potentially making generational
wealth in about four or five years. So forgive me
(35:33):
if I get offended by the fact that somebody is
completely factually inaccurate. She also went on to say, like,
why don't they make you get an education? Like, what
are you talking about? They do the best they can.
We cannot hold you hostage and make you get an education. Right.
(35:56):
I missed the part that said you had to go
to the kid didn't even want to go to the
NLVA NBA draft. I don't know if I've meaned Wendell
Carter didn't want to go. He liked Duke so much
he wanted to stay and his parents are like, now
you gotta go okay, but it's our fault. By the way, Wendow,
Carter can come back anytime he wants beyond scholarship, get
his degree anytime once, whether playing off season, train there,
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whether it's after he's done playing for ten fifteen years
in the NBA. It's the greatest deal ever and it
keeps getting better. But here's the problem with it. The
only problem is human nature. We all want more, which
is why no five thousand all or ten thousand all
or fifteen thousand dollar payment will ever change people wanting more.
That's what people that want more and college have said.
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This is what we're giving you. We're giving your room board,
tuition and cost ptenance, a little money in your pocket.
Plus you get per diem, you get all this other stuff.
You work camp, you get more money. You always have
cash in your pocket, You always have good gear, you
always have the best of everything. You fly, you fly
around with your team. You get to travel overseas, travel
all these great cities. We promote your brand. All you
gotta do a show twenty hours a week, eight hours
(37:01):
in the off season. That's it, and you get an
education at last year lifetime you tell me how that's
comfortable to slavery or the prison system.
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