September 8, 2025 • 34 mins
Doug talks about the Bills miracle comeback over the Ravens on Sunday night, and how much Josh Allen's skill and some luck had to do with it. Doug welcomes former Charger and Raiders General Manager Tom Telesco onto the show to talk about the Raiders, Bills and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five,
twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local
station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com,
or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app
by searching appspr boom Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
(00:21):
Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope. You had a spectacular, spectacular weekend.
All the boys are here. The great Dan Byer you
heard him on radio yesterday. I want to talk about
what he saw from his Hawks Seahawks Jay Still who
liked me a Charger fan, So hey, we're want to
know and in a division play and off for the
(00:44):
rest of the weekend and getting all healed up. That
stuff was great. And then of course you got your
boy here who Now I get two teams and both
teams want to know, and so is my fantasy team.
That's all want to know as well. So we're all
we're all good. We'll get to the Bills come back
against the Ravens in a second. We'll get to the
(01:06):
Lions getting dismembered and dismantled by the Packers in a second, Okay,
but I do need to pat myself on the back.
Chase two and Dan Byer. We've been together long enough
that you remember a couple of years ago, there was
this Herbert versus Tua thing, right, Herbert versus Tua. Now
(01:30):
it was mainly mainly Emmanuel Acho and others calling out
justin Herbert as what was it? A social media quarterback,
a social media sensation. And the idea wasn't that he
was on social media, is that social media likes him
more than the reality of who he is quarterback. And
the thing was, hey, Tua Tua is really.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And not only did I believe that was laughable at
the time, they actually played against each other on Monday
Night football. I went to that game with my son
and I came back and I think also as steven
A called out Herbert as well at the time, and
I went to that game and Tyreek Hill made two
(02:16):
unbelievable plays in the first half. Otherwise it's non competitive.
Was mostly a non competitive game. And the takeaway, very
very simply was, if you think those two players are
anywhere in the same solar system, you haven't actually watched football.
You haven't actually watched football, So knowing that, understanding that
(02:44):
if you've now watched week one, and I don't want
most opinions have to be willing to evolve or change.
Because if there's one thing we've learned about early season NFL,
it's whatever you saw this weekend, very very Normally, half
the teams will look completely different week two, sometimes for
(03:04):
the better, sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
For the worse.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But we do have I believe enough data to tell
you that I think McDaniel's going to get fired this year.
He was my wasn't he my first pick? Jay Stu
on our hot seat list last week? By the way,
congratulations to Jason Stewart. He gave you the Ja Stue
team parlay. They both hit over the weekend. So on
(03:29):
Fridays listen to Jay Stu both of his hit this weekend.
Wasn't Mike McDaniel my pick? I believe that was my pick?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Bier would know Byer does the games remember this?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I mean he had the shortest odds. I know you
want to take the victory lapdug, but it was two
to one that McDaniel was the first coach to be fired.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Is there anybody in this room that would now take
Tua over justin Herbert, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Think that that's been that way in a while.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I agree, I agree, but now it's like there's just
no way, and there's like they picked the wrong horse,
that's it. And they they've tried to put him in
the perfect situation, and that perfect situation continues to be
less perfect because you can only provide so much space
(04:22):
and timing for a guy for a period of time
for everybody kind of figures it out. I'm not saying
to a stinks, but I think he it's gonna be
a tough year for him as they're trying to figure
out how to get the ball to Tyreek Hill in
space and others have figured out how to take that away.
(04:43):
Hill is frustrated, and Tua doesn't look like he has
the ability to elevate a team if he can't do
it on time and on target, can't do it on
his own, Herbert does. Okay, let's get to last night's
Comeback Buyer. What time do you click off for the
radio on a Sunday. It's five o'clock local, so eight eastern, okay,
(05:07):
So then you drive home. There's no real traffic driving home.
Usually get home and do you settle in and watch
the game right away? You connect with Berdie and Lisa
right away, Like, what's your pattern on a Sunday?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I get home, I brought food home, and then I
brought the game up on my phone because Brody was
watching something on TV right Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Was there ever a point where you're like, Okay, I'm good.
Now I got to get ready for tomorrow, I got
to go to bed, or did you watch the entire thing? No?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I watch the entire thing. It's one of the advantages
you have on being the West Coast because you don't
have to, you know, game into like eight thirty ish
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I was on the West Coast, Okay. I was
out at a bar and restaurant and literally five minutes
to go, they were down what fifteen points? I was
like forty to twenty five, and there was a group
that I was kind of watching over their shoulder on
Beautiful TV, and everybody collectively when the Ravens scored the
(06:04):
touchdown to give him forty was like, that's it. That's
all not even pay attention to anymore. That's literally what happened.
And then I get back last night and I look
at my phone and you guys are on the group text,
and I'm like, well, I don't even know what happened.
So that to go back and watch. There's a long day,
a long weekend of watching a ton of football. Here
(06:27):
here's Josh Allen. He had a message to fans that
left the stadium early.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Our team didn't quit.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, I think there's people that left the stadium
that's okay, We'll be fine, but have some fight next time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Here's Josh Allen on how they came back and won.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
They took everybody there. I'm just proud of our team
for staying in it. No one on the sideline blinked.
I mean, down fifteen points whenever we were with five
six minutes left, staying with it. Fans leaving, you know,
the stadium. You know, you gotta play this game for
sixty minutes. And that's that's a really good outfit that
we just played. And you know, God willing we take
care of business how we're supposed to and how we
(07:05):
think we will. You know, it's probably a team we'll
see again. So you know they're they're a greatly coached team.
Hats off to them for having a really good game plan.
But you know, gotta were stuck in there, and I'm
just proud of our guys.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a
little counterintuitive that a team that can run the football
with Derrick Henry, can run the football with Lamar Jackson,
can give up that level of lead, right, because the
old adage you have a lead, well, that's a running team.
They know what they're doing and they just run it
down your throat and they have two incredible options.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Arguably, or maybe inarguably, the greatest running quarterback of all
time in Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry has been, if
not the best running back in the league. In any
conversation of the best running back in the league, what
five last five to seven years? Okay, so you have
those two, a good offensive line, the other team's got
(07:58):
to be tired. Defense been on the field of bunch.
Games should be over. I didn't know this until after
the comeback and win that John Harball his teams had
suffered more comebacks than any other coach in the NFL.
Here's Harball on what happened.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Very disappointing. We're just gonna have to regroup and get
ready to go play a long season. We've got sixteen
games in front of us, good football team, tough environment. Obviously,
we did many good things, but we didn't play well
at the end. Two big situations. The fourth down play,
I mean, that's kind of a play that you don't
really expect to happen. I mean, it was pretty pretty
lucky play, but they made it between the scrambles. Josh
(08:37):
Allen played a great game obviously, especially at the end
in the fourth quarter to make those plays. Scramble plays,
extended extended completions, and then a couple big pass plays.
So that's it. We're disappointed, but we'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's a couple different
parts to it. Remember after getting up forty to twenty five,
when I clicked it off, it was because the Bill's
punted on the next possession. It's five plays and they punted, okay,
But then it was the Ravens who ran the ball,
you know, twice in a row, then had a penalty okay,
then threw the ball and then had had the punt
(09:16):
it again. But what leads to every comeback in baseball,
every comeback in baseball feels the same leadoff walk right.
Every comeback in basketball, okay, feels like feels the same,
like a couple of threes and a couple of turnovers,
(09:40):
a couple of empty possessions and some momentum players. In football,
a turnover, especially a fumble, is almost always what leads
to these comebacks. And of all guys, it's a Derrick Henry,
a running back who he's a big, old strong dude.
The last thing you'd expect him to fumble, and he did.
Here's Derrick Henry on the fumble.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
All, I mean I gotta take care of the ball
till my teammates at the game put the boss on me.
I own it like a man. You know, we have
decided taking care of the ball since we since we
got bashed. It's a big gamness, especially in all them
running back taking care of football, keep it high and
tighten like a like a days ago. And they made
a play. But you know, I put his boss on me.
I take care of the ball by it to be
(10:23):
a different.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Situation for me.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
But as far as the offense, we've just got to
ask you and.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
We didn't do as well.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
You know, at the end. So we just got to
look at the field and correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Now, now, look there's a miracle fourth down catch, right,
that also happens. I mean, think of think of Brady
in the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three, right,
what leads to it? Turnovers and oh yeah, by the way,
Julian Edelman catching catching a football in a once in
a lifetime catch. So there's how you come back. Who
(10:55):
the players are that changes what's almost always the turnover miracle,
like one incredible momentum shifting miracle play, and and then
the offense becomes you know, goes into a shell and
(11:16):
becomes the turtle. Because yes there was a fumble, yes
that changed everything in the game, but the Ravens had
two other possessions where three and out and three and
out in the fourth quarter. You gotta keep playing right,
And I'm not being critical of Harbaugh. Look, first year
(11:37):
is a Division one head Ben's coach. You know, up
fourteen to Youngstown, up up fourteen late to Oakland, Like
we've suffered these four I know what happens. I've you
feel that, and the NFL it's almost always a turnover,
usually a fumble, a miracle play, and then your offense
(11:59):
just gets so conservative that the defense salivates, gets a stop,
and then you got a Josh Allen who's a special,
special player. The last part to it is, I understand
Josh Allen has not gotten to a Super Bowl yet.
I understand that Josh Allen has at times try to
(12:21):
do things too much on his own. I do understand
also that if we're honest with ourselves, they were still
down forty to twenty five, right, Like, let's not lose
track of most of the game was dominated by the
Ravens offense. But there's no additional level of clutchness in
your ability to come back. And you're like, well, he
(12:42):
hasn't done the playoffs. Yes he has. When they lost
to the Chiefs a couple of years ago and they
had the thirteen second you know, comeback drive, kick the
field goal and win an overtime, he played a perfect
game under an immense amount of pressure as a player
last night. There's a immense amount of pressure on him
to deliver in the clutch, and he did. It doesn't
(13:05):
mean that he's the clutchest player in the NFL from
week one, and I do reserve the right to go Hey,
maybe the fact that the Ravens were up means the
Ravens are that much better. They just went in the
turtle in the shell and that's why they lost. All
those things are possible, But I've never understood the mentality
of fans, the mentality of broadcasters to call out the
(13:26):
clutches of a player who's shown you that they can
in fact be clutched, they can in fact pull off miracles.
Sometimes it's those miracles, those comebacks, those clutch performances. They
may not always come out in an AFC championship game
or an AFC playoff game. His actually has, but you can't.
(13:47):
I just struggle with the mentality that you can only
be clutching the playoffs, not clutching the regular season. Regular
season clutch doesn't count. Just some food for thought for you.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
This is the only show that brings you guys that
actually truly know what they're talking about. Other shows do,
but we make sure we have the most reputable people,
especially in football. No one better than Tom te LESCo
eleven years GM with the Chargers San Diego in LA
and of course last year with the Las Vegas Raiders.
(14:30):
Kind of to spend some time with us every week
here on the show. Okay, first, let me just get
to the actual performance in the game. We did get
the chance to see Flacco look good. Dylan Gabriel came in,
Shador struggled. We saw Snoopuntley before he got before he
got released. What was your assessment of how the two
(14:50):
rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Well?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I agree with you, Dylan Gabriel looked good for the
second game in the row. He just he can move
the team. He makes quick decisions, he gets the ball
out of his hand quickly. He's got pretty good zip
for a for a smaller quarterback. He's got good arm strength,
which you don't see all the time with a smaller quarterback.
But he looked similar to what he looked in college,
and that was a positive. And Shrador, you know, didn't
(15:16):
have his best day. He played much better that the
two games before. You know, he struggled there and and
I can see I think part of this developmental process
with him, was not putting him out there for that
two minutes drill just because some of the body language
coming off the field after two tough series just wasn't
what you'd expect. You don't want your quarterback to just
(15:38):
walk off the field with his head down. There's there's
there's gonna adversity, you know, down to down series the series.
You have to handle that as a quarterback. So on
the outset looking in, I was wondering if this was
Kevin Stephanis saying, hey, look this this is a teaching
moment for you as far as how you handle the
lows on the field. And we're gonna let Snoop take
this last drive. But I think you can tell by
the way it lined up obviously it's fly Go was
(16:00):
the starter. Dylan Gabriel. He was drafted above Shador for
a reason. They must have had him ranked higher, and
he didn't show anything in the preseason that would lead
you to believe that he would drop in the Dutch charts.
You're looking at him as the two. I guess there's
a three. Can you take us the wild card? I
don't know how if it's in there right now, because
he just didn't play a lot in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is either two?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Is either three? Is he someone they would move? That
remains to be seen before Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I want to make sure I state I am not
putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings
in a second. I have seen other people and now
there are more former players than anything saying Stefanski is
basically sabotaging shadoor right put him out there with lineman
(16:50):
he was going to cut and didn't let him be
the hero and play the two minutes droll, which every
quarterback dreams of. Uh, is there any scenario where that's
a possibility?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No,
that's not absolutely not. I mean he's, first of all,
he's a very good head coach that has a good
track record on the offensive side of the ball. He
knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation
where he has four quarterbacks he's trying to get a
really good look at and I know he don't need
as much a look at Joe Flacco, but you still
(17:23):
want to make sure you know where he is performance
level is. So he had a tough challenge going into
training camp they get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like
to show what they can do, but to help them develop.
So he knows what he's doing. And yeah, no, he's
not out there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get
so many series, and I do think he's just trying
to teach these guys. And he had a rough series,
(17:46):
had a rough couple of series there, he has some
great series. You know, in the first preseason game, you're
going to have up and down as a rookie quarterback.
That's just part of life, and part of life city
and professional football is learning how to deal with that
because when you're the quarterback, not only everybody, not the
fans and media looking at you, your teammates are looking
at you. So you know, just you don't want to
see your quarterback just walking off the field after a
(18:08):
series or walking off with his head down. That I
think it was more a teaching moment than anything else.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Does all of this noise surrounding should Doure does Does
this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work? Does
it make it less likely somebody else picks him up?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
That's a good point, just because I want to say no,
But then you know, he was also drafted in the
fifth round. I think some of that was just due
to the noise people were worried about coming in. But
the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL.
Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet,
but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength,
(18:50):
He's got good feel in the pocket that I get
some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can
feel a rush, you can get the ball out of
his hands, and he's relatively accurate, So he has some
skills there. He's put a lot of staffs in college football,
but he has to adapt to the NFL game. It's
going to take some time. Certainly somebody would give an
(19:11):
opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would, I'm not sure,
just because what I said, like, he was dropped from
the fifth round, and really his talent level said he
should have gone higher. So they're probably some teams that
may be scurried off by that, But I think the
smarter teams see a potential, you know, potential starter down
the road. Maybe not right now, but down the road.
It is something you have to take a look at.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Well, I mean, he's had plenty of opportunities there. They
say he's not, and I do believe them. They've been
loyal to their players, they've been loyal to him and
given them opportunities. But he may be a situation that
other first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like
Daniel Jones with the Giants. He may need a change
of scenery. That's never a bad thing, and that could
(19:58):
come up. And if you look how Daniel Jones handed
his process, the hand went really well. He was released
during the season from the Giants. It just didn't work out.
You know, a lot of options at that point, including me.
I was trying to sign on to come to the
active roster with the Raiders, so he'd give us another
option as a starting quarterback. And he decided to sign
on the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate,
(20:20):
learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get
his kind of settle his career down a little bit,
and then be a free agent at the end of
the year and pick where to go to go compete
for a job. He picked the right spot. Once the
Colts competed for a job and won the job, so
Richison could be in that same boat eventually. But I
do believe it when they say that he'll get another
(20:41):
opportunity there. He's got a lot of talent. His ceiling's
really high. It's just the consistency level. It's just really
low right now. And it's no different than what he
showed in college. There were high, very high high and
low lows, and you're seeing the same thing at this level.
And there are also injuries at the college level, so
you're seeing a lot of the same things. But I
think he'll get another opportunity there to show what he
(21:02):
can do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes
this year. With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's
going to play. He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of
Fables first year or the last couple of years. He's
also had some injury, so there's a good chance at
some point Richardson plays again.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Tom to LESCo, of course, longtime show manager
of the La Chargers. Last year jail manager of the
Las Vegas Raiders. H Terry McLaurin that deal finally gets done.
Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that
(21:40):
it should have taken this log.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean
up to ninety six billion. It could mean a lot
of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in.
My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll
be right in that top ten range. Not necessarily the
top five, but top ten, which I think is a
good spot. You'll get some nice deserved raise. Was it
worth to hold in? I don't know. I don't know
(22:03):
how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's
get a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks
to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm
concerned about as a receiver, and because he didn't have
a full off season program he was rehabbing an ankle
injury and then no training camp. Receivers obviously the high
volume running position, and you know how many stats will
(22:25):
he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly
in conditioning shape, but it's just a difference between conditioning
shape and football shape. But really glad it got done.
This was the point where in the same thing with
the Hendrickson deal. They need to get done now to
get ready for opening day, but there's some deadlines coming
up to kind and they kind of spur that. But
I think the numbers are kind of come in where
(22:45):
we expected it, which be right around the top ten toms.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you do with Micah Parsons? Like,
it's one thing to ask to be traded and go
through all this sort of thing like laying down on
the massage table during a game, just generally acting like
an ass right, Like, what what do you do there?
(23:09):
If you're in charge of the Cowboys? Do you how
do you handle that?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
This is this is real theater, you know, from the
outside looking in, This is totally different than the McLaurin
and Hendrickson holdouts. Yeah, the laying on the table not
the look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the
table for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not
the look you're looking for. First off, They're just you
have to have communication between yourself and the agent. And
(23:34):
I just think in this situation until the agent is
part of the process. I just don't see the deal
getting done. And I know every team does it different ways.
I know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but
in this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with
the agent, I just don't see anything getting done. Now.
The big thing is we move into that cut the
(23:55):
fifty three and get ready for opening Day. You know,
if you're holding out and you're not there and you
don't play in the game, obviously you wouldn't make your
your base salaries for that week. But if you're holding in,
you're on the active roster, and if you don't play
in the game, then the club would still owe you
and his you know, for him, it'd be over a
million dollars one point three million dollars for that game.
(24:17):
I see no way the Cowboys are going to pay
one point three million to not play in a game.
So something has to break here, whether it's to get
the deal done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing
to play, and then you can either you can find
the player, you can suspend them. Something's going to have
to happen because he's on the active roster, he's due
to be paid week one right now, even though he's
(24:38):
not going to play. So I'd be shocked in the
next seven days if there wasn't some movement one way
or another. But it has to start with communication on
both sides, and you know, more so on the Cowboys side.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It sounds like, well Stug Gottlib show here on Fox
Sports Radio, how far away is Jackson dart.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Well.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I'm a big Jackson Dark fan. From the draft and
then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.
So yeah, I think he could go in and play
right now at what level. He would take some lumps,
I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But
I think he could play right now. But it's also
not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I mean,
(25:20):
it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.
I think Brian Daeble is definitely he's going to pick
the quarterback they can that he feels right now has
gives him the best chance to win opening day. He
feels like, right now it's Russell Wilson. But I think
if the time comes, whether it's September, October, November, December,
I think Jackson'll be ready to go. I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Matt Stafford starting to come like how do you handle that?
Where you just you have no idea. I mean, I
guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to
a super Bowl, But how do you handle that in
terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?
Like obviously I'm not telling the contractually, but yeah, what what?
(26:04):
How do you how do you handle the Stafford thing?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
If you're the Rams, Well, it's literally going to be
day by day and it sound like it's getting better
day by day. But as a lot of us know,
with back injuries and that, and if it has affects
your nerves, you know, sometimes the rehab process and the
strength it comes very slowly, and so they have to
(26:28):
kind of gradually start moving them in. But you have
to also have a plan B with with Garoppolo in
case Stafford is not ready to play. So probably in
practice with your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garppolo in
this case, you'll probably take more snaps than he usually
would to get him ready in case he has to play,
which is completely fine because Stafford probably you probably don't
(26:50):
want to have him take every snap right now in practice,
so they've got thirteen fourteen days ago before opening day,
still have some time. But essentially, if you're the coach,
you know you really have to get two quarterbacks ready
to play. Sin it's just, you know, back range back
injuries are unpredictable. I know he has missed very he
haven't missed very much time in his career, but he's
had back injuries in the past. And you know, the
(27:11):
older you get, it doesn't get better. So don't have
a plan for both. But in practice you're certainly going
to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
He's the one and only Tom Telesco. Of course, what
does he know. He's only been in professional football his
entire professional life and been a gentle manager for twelve
years in the Nation Football League. Last thing, Tommy, do
you like this system where it's basically like one big
cutdown or did you like the old system better?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
So I like this better because he gives every player
a chance to compete for a job. The only hard
part about it was is administratively releasing thirty seven players
over a day or two. It's just it's just a
lot of work because you want to spend enough time
with each player on his way out, just as a courtesy,
just talk to him about what he did about career
(28:05):
options moving forward. That sort of things. You want to
make sure you take the right time the head coach
to position coaches. There's a lot of time involved. But
I like the one cut because because everybody get a
chance to show what they can do for the pre
certainly for the third preseason game, you have a really
good chance to play your young guys. If you're a
team that doesn't want to play their starters, it gives
you enough players to play the third preseason game and
(28:27):
give every player, especially college free agents, that when you
sign a master for the draft, part of the recruiting processes,
we're going to give you the whole offseason program. We're
gonna give you all training camp in three preseason games
to show us what you can do. And guys need that,
and so I like this. It's just administratively you over
a two day span. It's just a lot of players
to let go of. Now you know roughly half will
(28:49):
come back on practice squads. But no, it's it's a process.
It's not fun really from players obviously, but the process
itself of building that initial fifty three is a very
enjoyable process.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He's time to LESCo. He's built the original fifty three
as the Gentleman, as the gentlemnasguer for twelve twelve different years,
and just love having you, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom,
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
We'll talk next week, all right, dog donk good? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Remember, check out our
new channel on YouTube. Just go to YouTube dot com
slash at Doug Gottlieb Show. If you're already in YouTube,
just search Doug Gotlieb Show. Be sure to hit the
subscribe button and don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up
icon and comment away. Let me know how incredible all
my takes are. Go check out our brand new YouTube
(29:44):
channel again, just search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe to
get to damn buyer for a game.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Hello Doug. The game today is.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Big deal, Little deal, No deal.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A lot of Week one reaction here with a little
bit more sprinkled in. We start off big deal, little
deal or no deal that the New York Giants are
sticking with Russell Wilson in week two is their starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
No deal.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You know they're gonna get to Jackson Dart at some point,
but that that time is not. We just haven't gotten
that moment yet, right, haven't gotten to that moment yet.
So I and you heard from Tom Tolesco. He didn't
play great, but they didn't block form at all. And
(30:38):
Washington's defense is a real thing. I'd say, no deal.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal that
after a calf injury scare, the forty nine ers gave
Christian McCaffrey thirty one touches in their win against the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I like, I'm with you with the scare. How many
times we heard calf injury and then it ends up
being something totally.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, And with Christian McCaffrey on top of that, guy
who's been injury prone throughout his at times throughout his career.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yep, as soon as he left, as soon as he
signed the big deal in Carolina, he became injury prone.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's crazy, yes, but uh, it was a big part
of their win yesterday, A big deal, little dealer, no
deal that Travis Hunter had six catches in his Jags
debut forty eight snaps in all in a win against Carolina.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I mean, the big thing is the win, right, big
thing is the win. But look, it's it's a it's
a good starting point. I'm still wondering why they chose
offense instead of defense in terms of his main focus,
when somebody have told me that they thought he was
better as a cornerback than his wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think I think it's some of the marketing aspect
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Easier to market a wide receiver than it is a yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, and maybe it's easier to.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Adjest that way.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't hate that thought.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I hate that thought because.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I mean, to take a corner second overall, you know,
would be just solely for a corner, would be I
think I'm precedented.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I think I thought three was maybe the highest that
a corner was ever taken. But big deal, little dealer,
no deal that the Cincinnati Bengals gotta win. But Doug
got off to another slow start in Cleveland. Uh, Joe Burrow, I.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Think it's a little deal, Okay, little deal. I mean, like, look,
big thing is, last year they lost so many close games,
especially early in the year. This one they came back
and won, and their defense helped them right, getting two
turnovers two interceptions of Joe Placo where the defense was
non existent last year. Cleveland's defense is good. By the way,
how nasty was that hit on Burrow? Everyone's at that
(32:42):
dets Wow, you want to play quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
No thanks fourteen of twenty three for one and thirteen yards.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It was for Burrow.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was pedestrian had the ball.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
For twenty four minutes in that game. Big deal, little dealer,
no deal that. Pete Carroll and the Raiders opened the
season with the road win in England.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Big East coach New England. There was some big expectations
of New England and Pete Carroll went in there and
beat one of his former teams and look good doing it.
I think that was a big win.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think it's honestly like for two teams that are
looking to do much better than they did a year
before to have to go on the road win that game. Yep,
it's an East Coast game. I know Vegas isn't West coast,
but western part of the country, eastern coast.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
One o'clock Eastern times. Start. Yeah, not easy, No, I
thought it was. I actually thought it was a really
good win.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And I thought Drake may looked good in the first
half and then in the second half maybe wasn't. So
there's there's a lot of growth there. But Gino Smith
an another magnificent performance three hundred and sixty two yards
and a touchdown in that Raiders victory over the Patriots.
I thought, I thought that was a big deal because
that's one of those coin flip games that we had
this weekend that ended up going the way of the
(33:56):
silver embody.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
One more, yeah, one more, big deal.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
That Georgia dropped two spots in the EIGHTP pole after
beating Austin p twenty eight to six.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This prifty the ap pole is p P so.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
No deal, no deal. All right, that's game time.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Game, This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
What did you love from the weekend? What did you
hate from the weekend? We'll share our love all right.
Next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five,
twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local
station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com,
or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app
by searching appspr boom Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
(00:21):
Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope. You had a spectacular, spectacular weekend.
All the boys are here. The great Dan Byer you
heard him on radio yesterday. I want to talk about
what he saw from his Hawks Seahawks Jay Still who
liked me a Charger fan, So hey, we're want to
know and in a division play and off for the
(00:44):
rest of the weekend and getting all healed up. That
stuff was great. And then of course you got your
boy here who Now I get two teams and both
teams want to know, and so is my fantasy team.
That's all want to know as well. So we're all
we're all good. We'll get to the Bills come back
against the Ravens in a second. We'll get to the
(01:06):
Lions getting dismembered and dismantled by the Packers in a second, Okay,
but I do need to pat myself on the back.
Chase two and Dan Byer. We've been together long enough
that you remember a couple of years ago, there was
this Herbert versus Tua thing, right, Herbert versus Tua. Now
(01:30):
it was mainly mainly Emmanuel Acho and others calling out
justin Herbert as what was it? A social media quarterback,
a social media sensation. And the idea wasn't that he
was on social media, is that social media likes him
more than the reality of who he is quarterback. And
the thing was, hey, Tua Tua is really.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And not only did I believe that was laughable at
the time, they actually played against each other on Monday
Night football. I went to that game with my son
and I came back and I think also as steven
A called out Herbert as well at the time, and
I went to that game and Tyreek Hill made two
(02:16):
unbelievable plays in the first half. Otherwise it's non competitive.
Was mostly a non competitive game. And the takeaway, very
very simply was, if you think those two players are
anywhere in the same solar system, you haven't actually watched football.
You haven't actually watched football, So knowing that, understanding that
(02:44):
if you've now watched week one, and I don't want
most opinions have to be willing to evolve or change.
Because if there's one thing we've learned about early season NFL,
it's whatever you saw this weekend, very very Normally, half
the teams will look completely different week two, sometimes for
(03:04):
the better, sometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
For the worse.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But we do have I believe enough data to tell
you that I think McDaniel's going to get fired this year.
He was my wasn't he my first pick? Jay Stu
on our hot seat list last week? By the way,
congratulations to Jason Stewart. He gave you the Ja Stue
team parlay. They both hit over the weekend. So on
(03:29):
Fridays listen to Jay Stu both of his hit this weekend.
Wasn't Mike McDaniel my pick? I believe that was my pick?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Bier would know Byer does the games remember this?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I mean he had the shortest odds. I know you
want to take the victory lapdug, but it was two
to one that McDaniel was the first coach to be fired.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Is there anybody in this room that would now take
Tua over justin Herbert, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Think that that's been that way in a while.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I agree, I agree, but now it's like there's just
no way, and there's like they picked the wrong horse,
that's it. And they they've tried to put him in
the perfect situation, and that perfect situation continues to be
less perfect because you can only provide so much space
(04:22):
and timing for a guy for a period of time
for everybody kind of figures it out. I'm not saying
to a stinks, but I think he it's gonna be
a tough year for him as they're trying to figure
out how to get the ball to Tyreek Hill in
space and others have figured out how to take that away.
(04:43):
Hill is frustrated, and Tua doesn't look like he has
the ability to elevate a team if he can't do
it on time and on target, can't do it on
his own, Herbert does. Okay, let's get to last night's
Comeback Buyer. What time do you click off for the
radio on a Sunday. It's five o'clock local, so eight eastern, okay,
(05:07):
So then you drive home. There's no real traffic driving home.
Usually get home and do you settle in and watch
the game right away? You connect with Berdie and Lisa
right away, Like, what's your pattern on a Sunday?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I get home, I brought food home, and then I
brought the game up on my phone because Brody was
watching something on TV right Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Was there ever a point where you're like, Okay, I'm good.
Now I got to get ready for tomorrow, I got
to go to bed, or did you watch the entire thing? No?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I watch the entire thing. It's one of the advantages
you have on being the West Coast because you don't
have to, you know, game into like eight thirty ish
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I was on the West Coast, Okay. I was
out at a bar and restaurant and literally five minutes
to go, they were down what fifteen points? I was
like forty to twenty five, and there was a group
that I was kind of watching over their shoulder on
Beautiful TV, and everybody collectively when the Ravens scored the
(06:04):
touchdown to give him forty was like, that's it. That's
all not even pay attention to anymore. That's literally what happened.
And then I get back last night and I look
at my phone and you guys are on the group text,
and I'm like, well, I don't even know what happened.
So that to go back and watch. There's a long day,
a long weekend of watching a ton of football. Here
(06:27):
here's Josh Allen. He had a message to fans that
left the stadium early.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Our team didn't quit.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, I think there's people that left the stadium
that's okay, We'll be fine, but have some fight next time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Here's Josh Allen on how they came back and won.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
They took everybody there. I'm just proud of our team
for staying in it. No one on the sideline blinked.
I mean, down fifteen points whenever we were with five
six minutes left, staying with it. Fans leaving, you know,
the stadium. You know, you gotta play this game for
sixty minutes. And that's that's a really good outfit that
we just played. And you know, God willing we take
care of business how we're supposed to and how we
(07:05):
think we will. You know, it's probably a team we'll
see again. So you know they're they're a greatly coached team.
Hats off to them for having a really good game plan.
But you know, gotta were stuck in there, and I'm
just proud of our guys.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a
little counterintuitive that a team that can run the football
with Derrick Henry, can run the football with Lamar Jackson,
can give up that level of lead, right, because the
old adage you have a lead, well, that's a running team.
They know what they're doing and they just run it
down your throat and they have two incredible options.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Arguably, or maybe inarguably, the greatest running quarterback of all
time in Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry has been, if
not the best running back in the league. In any
conversation of the best running back in the league, what
five last five to seven years? Okay, so you have
those two, a good offensive line, the other team's got
(07:58):
to be tired. Defense been on the field of bunch.
Games should be over. I didn't know this until after
the comeback and win that John Harball his teams had
suffered more comebacks than any other coach in the NFL.
Here's Harball on what happened.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Very disappointing. We're just gonna have to regroup and get
ready to go play a long season. We've got sixteen
games in front of us, good football team, tough environment. Obviously,
we did many good things, but we didn't play well
at the end. Two big situations. The fourth down play,
I mean, that's kind of a play that you don't
really expect to happen. I mean, it was pretty pretty
lucky play, but they made it between the scrambles. Josh
(08:37):
Allen played a great game obviously, especially at the end
in the fourth quarter to make those plays. Scramble plays,
extended extended completions, and then a couple big pass plays.
So that's it. We're disappointed, but we'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's a couple different
parts to it. Remember after getting up forty to twenty five,
when I clicked it off, it was because the Bill's
punted on the next possession. It's five plays and they punted, okay,
But then it was the Ravens who ran the ball,
you know, twice in a row, then had a penalty okay,
then threw the ball and then had had the punt
(09:16):
it again. But what leads to every comeback in baseball,
every comeback in baseball feels the same leadoff walk right.
Every comeback in basketball, okay, feels like feels the same,
like a couple of threes and a couple of turnovers,
(09:40):
a couple of empty possessions and some momentum players. In football,
a turnover, especially a fumble, is almost always what leads
to these comebacks. And of all guys, it's a Derrick Henry,
a running back who he's a big, old strong dude.
The last thing you'd expect him to fumble, and he did.
Here's Derrick Henry on the fumble.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
All, I mean I gotta take care of the ball
till my teammates at the game put the boss on me.
I own it like a man. You know, we have
decided taking care of the ball since we since we
got bashed. It's a big gamness, especially in all them
running back taking care of football, keep it high and
tighten like a like a days ago. And they made
a play. But you know, I put his boss on me.
I take care of the ball by it to be
(10:23):
a different.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Situation for me.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
But as far as the offense, we've just got to
ask you and.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
We didn't do as well.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
You know, at the end. So we just got to
look at the field and correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Now, now, look there's a miracle fourth down catch, right,
that also happens. I mean, think of think of Brady
in the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three, right,
what leads to it? Turnovers and oh yeah, by the way,
Julian Edelman catching catching a football in a once in
a lifetime catch. So there's how you come back. Who
(10:55):
the players are that changes what's almost always the turnover miracle,
like one incredible momentum shifting miracle play, and and then
the offense becomes you know, goes into a shell and
(11:16):
becomes the turtle. Because yes there was a fumble, yes
that changed everything in the game, but the Ravens had
two other possessions where three and out and three and
out in the fourth quarter. You gotta keep playing right,
And I'm not being critical of Harbaugh. Look, first year
(11:37):
is a Division one head Ben's coach. You know, up
fourteen to Youngstown, up up fourteen late to Oakland, Like
we've suffered these four I know what happens. I've you
feel that, and the NFL it's almost always a turnover,
usually a fumble, a miracle play, and then your offense
(11:59):
just gets so conservative that the defense salivates, gets a stop,
and then you got a Josh Allen who's a special,
special player. The last part to it is, I understand
Josh Allen has not gotten to a Super Bowl yet.
I understand that Josh Allen has at times try to
(12:21):
do things too much on his own. I do understand
also that if we're honest with ourselves, they were still
down forty to twenty five, right, Like, let's not lose
track of most of the game was dominated by the
Ravens offense. But there's no additional level of clutchness in
your ability to come back. And you're like, well, he
(12:42):
hasn't done the playoffs. Yes he has. When they lost
to the Chiefs a couple of years ago and they
had the thirteen second you know, comeback drive, kick the
field goal and win an overtime, he played a perfect
game under an immense amount of pressure as a player
last night. There's a immense amount of pressure on him
to deliver in the clutch, and he did. It doesn't
(13:05):
mean that he's the clutchest player in the NFL from
week one, and I do reserve the right to go Hey,
maybe the fact that the Ravens were up means the
Ravens are that much better. They just went in the
turtle in the shell and that's why they lost. All
those things are possible, But I've never understood the mentality
of fans, the mentality of broadcasters to call out the
(13:26):
clutches of a player who's shown you that they can
in fact be clutched, they can in fact pull off miracles.
Sometimes it's those miracles, those comebacks, those clutch performances. They
may not always come out in an AFC championship game
or an AFC playoff game. His actually has, but you can't.
(13:47):
I just struggle with the mentality that you can only
be clutching the playoffs, not clutching the regular season. Regular
season clutch doesn't count. Just some food for thought for you.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
This is the only show that brings you guys that
actually truly know what they're talking about. Other shows do,
but we make sure we have the most reputable people,
especially in football. No one better than Tom te LESCo
eleven years GM with the Chargers San Diego in LA
and of course last year with the Las Vegas Raiders.
(14:30):
Kind of to spend some time with us every week
here on the show. Okay, first, let me just get
to the actual performance in the game. We did get
the chance to see Flacco look good. Dylan Gabriel came in,
Shador struggled. We saw Snoopuntley before he got before he
got released. What was your assessment of how the two
(14:50):
rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Well?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I agree with you, Dylan Gabriel looked good for the
second game in the row. He just he can move
the team. He makes quick decisions, he gets the ball
out of his hand quickly. He's got pretty good zip
for a for a smaller quarterback. He's got good arm strength,
which you don't see all the time with a smaller quarterback.
But he looked similar to what he looked in college,
and that was a positive. And Shrador, you know, didn't
(15:16):
have his best day. He played much better that the
two games before. You know, he struggled there and and
I can see I think part of this developmental process
with him, was not putting him out there for that
two minutes drill just because some of the body language
coming off the field after two tough series just wasn't
what you'd expect. You don't want your quarterback to just
(15:38):
walk off the field with his head down. There's there's
there's gonna adversity, you know, down to down series the series.
You have to handle that as a quarterback. So on
the outset looking in, I was wondering if this was
Kevin Stephanis saying, hey, look this this is a teaching
moment for you as far as how you handle the
lows on the field. And we're gonna let Snoop take
this last drive. But I think you can tell by
the way it lined up obviously it's fly Go was
(16:00):
the starter. Dylan Gabriel. He was drafted above Shador for
a reason. They must have had him ranked higher, and
he didn't show anything in the preseason that would lead
you to believe that he would drop in the Dutch charts.
You're looking at him as the two. I guess there's
a three. Can you take us the wild card? I
don't know how if it's in there right now, because
he just didn't play a lot in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is either two?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Is either three? Is he someone they would move? That
remains to be seen before Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I want to make sure I state I am not
putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings
in a second. I have seen other people and now
there are more former players than anything saying Stefanski is
basically sabotaging shadoor right put him out there with lineman
(16:50):
he was going to cut and didn't let him be
the hero and play the two minutes droll, which every
quarterback dreams of. Uh, is there any scenario where that's
a possibility?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No,
that's not absolutely not. I mean he's, first of all,
he's a very good head coach that has a good
track record on the offensive side of the ball. He
knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation
where he has four quarterbacks he's trying to get a
really good look at and I know he don't need
as much a look at Joe Flacco, but you still
(17:23):
want to make sure you know where he is performance
level is. So he had a tough challenge going into
training camp they get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like
to show what they can do, but to help them develop.
So he knows what he's doing. And yeah, no, he's
not out there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get
so many series, and I do think he's just trying
to teach these guys. And he had a rough series,
(17:46):
had a rough couple of series there, he has some
great series. You know, in the first preseason game, you're
going to have up and down as a rookie quarterback.
That's just part of life, and part of life city
and professional football is learning how to deal with that
because when you're the quarterback, not only everybody, not the
fans and media looking at you, your teammates are looking
at you. So you know, just you don't want to
see your quarterback just walking off the field after a
(18:08):
series or walking off with his head down. That I
think it was more a teaching moment than anything else.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Does all of this noise surrounding should Doure does Does
this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work? Does
it make it less likely somebody else picks him up?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
That's a good point, just because I want to say no,
But then you know, he was also drafted in the
fifth round. I think some of that was just due
to the noise people were worried about coming in. But
the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL.
Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet,
but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength,
(18:50):
He's got good feel in the pocket that I get
some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can
feel a rush, you can get the ball out of
his hands, and he's relatively accurate, So he has some
skills there. He's put a lot of staffs in college football,
but he has to adapt to the NFL game. It's
going to take some time. Certainly somebody would give an
(19:11):
opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would, I'm not sure,
just because what I said, like, he was dropped from
the fifth round, and really his talent level said he
should have gone higher. So they're probably some teams that
may be scurried off by that, But I think the
smarter teams see a potential, you know, potential starter down
the road. Maybe not right now, but down the road.
It is something you have to take a look at.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Well, I mean, he's had plenty of opportunities there. They
say he's not, and I do believe them. They've been
loyal to their players, they've been loyal to him and
given them opportunities. But he may be a situation that
other first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like
Daniel Jones with the Giants. He may need a change
of scenery. That's never a bad thing, and that could
(19:58):
come up. And if you look how Daniel Jones handed
his process, the hand went really well. He was released
during the season from the Giants. It just didn't work out.
You know, a lot of options at that point, including me.
I was trying to sign on to come to the
active roster with the Raiders, so he'd give us another
option as a starting quarterback. And he decided to sign
on the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate,
(20:20):
learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get
his kind of settle his career down a little bit,
and then be a free agent at the end of
the year and pick where to go to go compete
for a job. He picked the right spot. Once the
Colts competed for a job and won the job, so
Richison could be in that same boat eventually. But I
do believe it when they say that he'll get another
(20:41):
opportunity there. He's got a lot of talent. His ceiling's
really high. It's just the consistency level. It's just really
low right now. And it's no different than what he
showed in college. There were high, very high high and
low lows, and you're seeing the same thing at this level.
And there are also injuries at the college level, so
you're seeing a lot of the same things. But I
think he'll get another opportunity there to show what he
(21:02):
can do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes
this year. With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's
going to play. He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of
Fables first year or the last couple of years. He's
also had some injury, so there's a good chance at
some point Richardson plays again.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Tom to LESCo, of course, longtime show manager
of the La Chargers. Last year jail manager of the
Las Vegas Raiders. H Terry McLaurin that deal finally gets done.
Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that
(21:40):
it should have taken this log.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean
up to ninety six billion. It could mean a lot
of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in.
My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll
be right in that top ten range. Not necessarily the
top five, but top ten, which I think is a
good spot. You'll get some nice deserved raise. Was it
worth to hold in? I don't know. I don't know
(22:03):
how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's
get a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks
to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm
concerned about as a receiver, and because he didn't have
a full off season program he was rehabbing an ankle
injury and then no training camp. Receivers obviously the high
volume running position, and you know how many stats will
(22:25):
he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly
in conditioning shape, but it's just a difference between conditioning
shape and football shape. But really glad it got done.
This was the point where in the same thing with
the Hendrickson deal. They need to get done now to
get ready for opening day, but there's some deadlines coming
up to kind and they kind of spur that. But
I think the numbers are kind of come in where
(22:45):
we expected it, which be right around the top ten toms.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you do with Micah Parsons? Like,
it's one thing to ask to be traded and go
through all this sort of thing like laying down on
the massage table during a game, just generally acting like
an ass right, Like, what what do you do there?
(23:09):
If you're in charge of the Cowboys? Do you how
do you handle that?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
This is this is real theater, you know, from the
outside looking in, This is totally different than the McLaurin
and Hendrickson holdouts. Yeah, the laying on the table not
the look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the
table for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not
the look you're looking for. First off, They're just you
have to have communication between yourself and the agent. And
(23:34):
I just think in this situation until the agent is
part of the process. I just don't see the deal
getting done. And I know every team does it different ways.
I know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but
in this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with
the agent, I just don't see anything getting done. Now.
The big thing is we move into that cut the
(23:55):
fifty three and get ready for opening Day. You know,
if you're holding out and you're not there and you
don't play in the game, obviously you wouldn't make your
your base salaries for that week. But if you're holding in,
you're on the active roster, and if you don't play
in the game, then the club would still owe you
and his you know, for him, it'd be over a
million dollars one point three million dollars for that game.
(24:17):
I see no way the Cowboys are going to pay
one point three million to not play in a game.
So something has to break here, whether it's to get
the deal done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing
to play, and then you can either you can find
the player, you can suspend them. Something's going to have
to happen because he's on the active roster, he's due
to be paid week one right now, even though he's
(24:38):
not going to play. So I'd be shocked in the
next seven days if there wasn't some movement one way
or another. But it has to start with communication on
both sides, and you know, more so on the Cowboys side.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It sounds like, well Stug Gottlib show here on Fox
Sports Radio, how far away is Jackson dart.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Well.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I'm a big Jackson Dark fan. From the draft and
then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.
So yeah, I think he could go in and play
right now at what level. He would take some lumps,
I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But
I think he could play right now. But it's also
not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I mean,
(25:20):
it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.
I think Brian Daeble is definitely he's going to pick
the quarterback they can that he feels right now has
gives him the best chance to win opening day. He
feels like, right now it's Russell Wilson. But I think
if the time comes, whether it's September, October, November, December,
I think Jackson'll be ready to go. I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Matt Stafford starting to come like how do you handle that?
Where you just you have no idea. I mean, I
guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to
a super Bowl, But how do you handle that in
terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?
Like obviously I'm not telling the contractually, but yeah, what what?
(26:04):
How do you how do you handle the Stafford thing?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
If you're the Rams, Well, it's literally going to be
day by day and it sound like it's getting better
day by day. But as a lot of us know,
with back injuries and that, and if it has affects
your nerves, you know, sometimes the rehab process and the
strength it comes very slowly, and so they have to
(26:28):
kind of gradually start moving them in. But you have
to also have a plan B with with Garoppolo in
case Stafford is not ready to play. So probably in
practice with your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garppolo in
this case, you'll probably take more snaps than he usually
would to get him ready in case he has to play,
which is completely fine because Stafford probably you probably don't
(26:50):
want to have him take every snap right now in practice,
so they've got thirteen fourteen days ago before opening day,
still have some time. But essentially, if you're the coach,
you know you really have to get two quarterbacks ready
to play. Sin it's just, you know, back range back
injuries are unpredictable. I know he has missed very he
haven't missed very much time in his career, but he's
had back injuries in the past. And you know, the
(27:11):
older you get, it doesn't get better. So don't have
a plan for both. But in practice you're certainly going
to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
He's the one and only Tom Telesco. Of course, what
does he know. He's only been in professional football his
entire professional life and been a gentle manager for twelve
years in the Nation Football League. Last thing, Tommy, do
you like this system where it's basically like one big
cutdown or did you like the old system better?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
So I like this better because he gives every player
a chance to compete for a job. The only hard
part about it was is administratively releasing thirty seven players
over a day or two. It's just it's just a
lot of work because you want to spend enough time
with each player on his way out, just as a courtesy,
just talk to him about what he did about career
(28:05):
options moving forward. That sort of things. You want to
make sure you take the right time the head coach
to position coaches. There's a lot of time involved. But
I like the one cut because because everybody get a
chance to show what they can do for the pre
certainly for the third preseason game, you have a really
good chance to play your young guys. If you're a
team that doesn't want to play their starters, it gives
you enough players to play the third preseason game and
(28:27):
give every player, especially college free agents, that when you
sign a master for the draft, part of the recruiting processes,
we're going to give you the whole offseason program. We're
gonna give you all training camp in three preseason games
to show us what you can do. And guys need that,
and so I like this. It's just administratively you over
a two day span. It's just a lot of players
to let go of. Now you know roughly half will
(28:49):
come back on practice squads. But no, it's it's a process.
It's not fun really from players obviously, but the process
itself of building that initial fifty three is a very
enjoyable process.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He's time to LESCo. He's built the original fifty three
as the Gentleman, as the gentlemnasguer for twelve twelve different years,
and just love having you, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom,
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
We'll talk next week, all right, dog donk good? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Remember, check out our
new channel on YouTube. Just go to YouTube dot com
slash at Doug Gottlieb Show. If you're already in YouTube,
just search Doug Gotlieb Show. Be sure to hit the
subscribe button and don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up
icon and comment away. Let me know how incredible all
my takes are. Go check out our brand new YouTube
(29:44):
channel again, just search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe to
get to damn buyer for a game.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Hello Doug. The game today is.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Big deal, Little deal, No deal.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A lot of Week one reaction here with a little
bit more sprinkled in. We start off big deal, little
deal or no deal that the New York Giants are
sticking with Russell Wilson in week two is their starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
No deal.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You know they're gonna get to Jackson Dart at some point,
but that that time is not. We just haven't gotten
that moment yet, right, haven't gotten to that moment yet.
So I and you heard from Tom Tolesco. He didn't
play great, but they didn't block form at all. And
(30:38):
Washington's defense is a real thing. I'd say, no deal.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal that
after a calf injury scare, the forty nine ers gave
Christian McCaffrey thirty one touches in their win against the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I like, I'm with you with the scare. How many
times we heard calf injury and then it ends up
being something totally.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, And with Christian McCaffrey on top of that, guy
who's been injury prone throughout his at times throughout his career.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yep, as soon as he left, as soon as he
signed the big deal in Carolina, he became injury prone.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's crazy, yes, but uh, it was a big part
of their win yesterday, A big deal, little dealer, no
deal that Travis Hunter had six catches in his Jags
debut forty eight snaps in all in a win against Carolina.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I mean, the big thing is the win, right, big
thing is the win. But look, it's it's a it's
a good starting point. I'm still wondering why they chose
offense instead of defense in terms of his main focus,
when somebody have told me that they thought he was
better as a cornerback than his wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think I think it's some of the marketing aspect
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Easier to market a wide receiver than it is a yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, and maybe it's easier to.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Adjest that way.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't hate that thought.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I hate that thought because.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I mean, to take a corner second overall, you know,
would be just solely for a corner, would be I
think I'm precedented.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I think I thought three was maybe the highest that
a corner was ever taken. But big deal, little dealer,
no deal that the Cincinnati Bengals gotta win. But Doug
got off to another slow start in Cleveland. Uh, Joe Burrow, I.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Think it's a little deal, Okay, little deal. I mean, like, look,
big thing is, last year they lost so many close games,
especially early in the year. This one they came back
and won, and their defense helped them right, getting two
turnovers two interceptions of Joe Placo where the defense was
non existent last year. Cleveland's defense is good. By the way,
how nasty was that hit on Burrow? Everyone's at that
(32:42):
dets Wow, you want to play quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
No thanks fourteen of twenty three for one and thirteen yards.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It was for Burrow.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was pedestrian had the ball.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
For twenty four minutes in that game. Big deal, little dealer,
no deal that. Pete Carroll and the Raiders opened the
season with the road win in England.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Big East coach New England. There was some big expectations
of New England and Pete Carroll went in there and
beat one of his former teams and look good doing it.
I think that was a big win.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think it's honestly like for two teams that are
looking to do much better than they did a year
before to have to go on the road win that game. Yep,
it's an East Coast game. I know Vegas isn't West coast,
but western part of the country, eastern coast.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
One o'clock Eastern times. Start. Yeah, not easy, No, I
thought it was. I actually thought it was a really
good win.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And I thought Drake may looked good in the first
half and then in the second half maybe wasn't. So
there's there's a lot of growth there. But Gino Smith
an another magnificent performance three hundred and sixty two yards
and a touchdown in that Raiders victory over the Patriots.
I thought, I thought that was a big deal because
that's one of those coin flip games that we had
this weekend that ended up going the way of the
(33:56):
silver embody.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
One more, yeah, one more, big deal.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
That Georgia dropped two spots in the EIGHTP pole after
beating Austin p twenty eight to six.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This prifty the ap pole is p P so.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
No deal, no deal. All right, that's game time.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Game, This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
What did you love from the weekend? What did you
hate from the weekend? We'll share our love all right.
Next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio
Host
Doug Gottlieb
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.