What’s Going on with Tom Brady?

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You're listening to sports Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show,
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we have a great show. I could not be happier
about this show. Um, but I want to start with
with this. I was going through teams today and I

(00:46):
was trying to figure out you. Look, I have mostly
brushed aside the fact that Tom Brady isn't an O
T A S. Hey, Rob Gronkowski not being an O
T S. I told you a long time ago. That's
about money, nothing else us. We can say what it's
about Mogan Bowler, it's about his treatment, it's about having
fun or whatever. No, it's not. If you If you

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get We're gonna talk a little later about Bryce Harper
and potential landing spots for Bryce Harper this upcoming offseason.
If you hire Scott Boris as your agent in Major
League Baseball, nine and a half times in ten that
the statement that is sent out, the statement that is

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set that is set out to every Major League Baseball
team is we are going to the highest bidder. If
Boris is your agent, you're going to the highest bidder.
If Drew Rosenhouse is your agent, you want more money. Okay,
So I'm not freaking out about Rob Gronkowski. We've seen

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skill players. We've seen guys that have had injuries. He
has had a viable excuse by the way Gronk run long,
get open. Now, from a football perspective, Tom Brady missing
O T A S doesn't mean much of anything. Eighteen
years he's been there. He is the same offensive coordinator.

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He he probably wouldn't be doing a ton And the
mental reps aren't necessarily going to pay off in the
fall and definitely not in the winter. And there there
is a need for a certain mental refresher, right, like
everybody needs to. I don't know if you guys know this,
but I think I've taken uh a handful of days

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off in the year in which I've been on radio.
Now I've been off of this show, but oftentimes I
still work. All Right, I'll do Colin Show or I'll
do Dan Patrick show. So the point is that there
is that will come a time here soon. We're like, man,
I just I need a mental refresher day. And I
don't blame Brady for that. But I was going through

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all of the teams in the NFL on the way year.
It's not a big deal, but it's a huge deal. Wait,
that's contradictory, is it. The Buffalo Bills have three quarterbacks
in our contract? How many of them are at O
T s? Three Miami Dolphins, same thing, New York Jets,

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same thing, The Steelers, the Ravens, the Bengals, the Browns.
A matter of fact, I look through all thirty two teams,
I noticed only one starting quarterback isn't an O T
A S. His name Tom Brady. And of course backups
have to be there even if the starters are not,
because backups have to always be ready and always be stable.

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How many backups are in camp all thirty two including
Brian Hoyer, the backup to Tom Brady. Heck, you go
through third string quarterbacks. Forget about rookies and free agents
and guys that are still under contract, some guys that
don't even have numbers, and yet have names on the
back of their jerseys. They're all in camp. If we

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admit that at this point in time, every team carries
at least three quarterbacks, and there are thirty two teams
by my math, that's quarterbacks. Ninety five of them are
O T A s. The only one that is not
is Tom Brady. So do I think it hurts them
in the fall in football season. I don't. I think

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it has no real effect on their opening season game
against the Texans, or their first road game against the Jags,
or their second road game against the Lions, or hell,
even when they go to to take on the Packers
on the fourth of no of November. None of these
have any sort of effect on Tom Brady's performance. But

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there's some statement being made when other guy show up
at work and you don't. And of course others have
pointed out that Brady in the past talked about how
the reps are in fact important, the team building is important,
the leadership is important. He is making a statement. One
of the worst part about it, we'll never know what

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that statement is. My guest remains that he's trying to
have some sort of work life balance that he becomes
imbalanced in terms of is worth work life ratio when
he's in the season. You combine that with the potential
post career setbacks because of hits to the head, not

(05:41):
that he's had him, but the but the the push
between him, between he and Giselle. Remember Giselle as a
supermodel no longer has to grind, She doesn't have to
show up early. When if somebody wants Giselle Bunched in
to do a photo shoot, then Giselle Bunch didn't can
pick the time and the location. And she's not exactly
used to the fact that that's not the case in

(06:03):
the NFL. She wants him to fight for his solidarity.
She wants him, she wants him to fight for his independence.
She wants him at some point to either retire or
call his own shots, which is just not the way
of the National Football League. So the best that he
can do is when it says voluntary, volunteer to not
show up. Could it be about treatment? Could it be

(06:28):
about pay? Could it be about Malcolm Butler? It could?
I think it's more likely that it's about based upon
the people I've talked to him trying to find a
balance between being in his forty a father of a
couple who actually wants to be there for them in
the off season because it's hard in the regular season.

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But make no mistake about it, when there's nineties six
guys do it work and show up, and you're the
most decorated, you're the most senior, and you decide I'm
going to be the one guy that doesn't show up,
especially when you have in the past. I don't think
this is a big deal from a football sense. I

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do think it's a big deal that it doesn't happen
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want to offer up a guess as to why you
think Tom Brady is doing this. I think, as we've
talked about before, you know his contract situation, his age,
and where he's at in the NFL. It's sort of
his only play and he's always been a patriot guy
who's done things the right way, and I think that
that's what has led to so much success for them

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is Bill Belichick has sort of built this team based
off of discipline and attention to detail, and Tom Brady
being their best player for as long as he has been,
has always been the perfect soldier to help fulfill that plan.
And now Brady realizes the only one thing he has
is this to create leverage because none of us truly

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think that he is going to demand a trade or
try and sit out of regular season games or anything
like that. So the one thing he can do is
skip out on O t s and voluntary workouts. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's trying to control what he actually controlled
because he's so out of control at other points in time.

(08:38):
It's fair, very fair. It's kind of like, I don't know,
if you're if you're trying to like punish your kid,
there's only like so many things you can do. If
they're doing something you can see, you're just like, I
don't know, I'll take the cell phone because I don't know.
Maybe they'll learn that way. Well, let's see what let's do.
This is Bill Belichick's reaction or Brady not being there

(09:00):
on here today? Have you guys spoken into both? Talk
about the people that aren't here. The guys that are
here are improving, they're working hard, and um, those of
the guys are gonna focus on Okay, icy Icy again.
I want to make sure that I point this out.
I don't think it affects their ability to win the division.

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I think this is one of those it's a statement
being made right. Wives make statements, husbands make statements. Bosses
make statements. You know, you do something questionable and your
boss made Dania make Collie out in front of your
fellow employees. Why not because of what you did? That

(09:44):
was But he has to feel like he has to
make a statement. There is something amiss that Tom Brady
feels the need to make a statement. That's what he's doing.
That's what he's doing olden policies. So join us up
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(10:05):
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veteran old and polonies. Who joins us? All right, So,
what's the real deal with this series? Why is such
a difference between the games in Boston and the games

(13:02):
in Cleveland from your perspective, Well, home, home cooking, that's
all it is. It's home cooking. Boston had the first
two at home, and they did what they were supposed
to do in Cleveland with their backs against the wall.
Then what they have to do. You know, you notice
everybody picked up their game on their own home floor,
guys that you know, we're having bad games on the road.

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They went home, and I think it's gonna reverse again. Boston.
It's gonna end up winning Game five and so on.
I think it's why it's gonna end up going to
Game seven, and then and then and then if you
have the best player, and you have the best player
in the series by by a good margin, you end
up winning the series. Right, Yeah, Well in a game seven, yes,
but he's gonna have to do the same things the

(13:45):
rest of the way. He can't just you know, pick
and choose. Like the Game Too one was the one
that was the most interesting to me, you know, was
that game the first game one we knew he was
gonna come out, and you know, the games at home
he's played well. But the Game Too, for some reason,
he looked really disengaged, and I think that took it
away from his teammates as well, because it's like if

(14:08):
all leader our best raids not engaged, and uh, we
can't win. Um. I've heard a lot of crazy statements. Um,
but do you feel like there are people that that
want failure from Kyrie? Like look when the when the
Celtics wrote two games and none, you had people saying that, well,

(14:29):
they don't need Kyrie. You can trade Kyrie Irving. He
could be a free agent at the end of next year.
It's almost like, because Kyrie left the show and now
we don't have the two super teams, that there's a
little bit of Maybe this is more fans, but I
do sense there's some other bitterness towards Kyrie Irving, to which,
even if it was proved to be um an incorrect statement,

(14:50):
there are at least a substantial portion of people that
want Rosier to be as good as Kyrie, to prove
Kyrie wasn't that important. Oh that's a major fallacy. Um
I'll say Kyrie irving all day, every day against Terry Rozier,
no dispect to Terry, but Kyrie is the better player.
We know that. And this series is a different series

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if Kyrie plays. Let's get that straight right there. And
I think Boston definitely probably would have, you know, would
have swept them, not even a probably definitely would have
swept them because they're doing all this with two of
them top players out, you know, And to me, that's
the thing people are not seeing going here and went

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out the beginning of the season. Kyrie went out in
the middle of the season. And these guys are in
the in the Eastern Conference signals. Do you take Lebron
off of Cleveland where we already know what would happen
so they can't afford that. But Boston was able to
sustain got one but two injuries, and to me that
that speaks well and boes well for them as a team.

(15:54):
So looking forward to the future or they they pretty
much are going to control the Eastern Conference. It does,
in fact feel that way. Olden polonies Johinius Dug Gatip Show,
Fox Sports Radio, all right, what about tonight? Let me
play you with Mike D'Antoni Romos. Do you know what
Mike D'Antoni had to say. D'Antoni was asked about about
the pressure being on the Houston Rockets to win tonight

(16:17):
members Game four tonight, and he had this to say, me,
bold say, that's all the pressure and they're still they
gotta windom at night. You know, we should come in
with a little bit of a swagger and get you
up in our name and see what you get it. Yeah.
So yeah, you know when you hear D'Antoni say that,
what's your reaction of Well, I heard that this morning
and I started laughing very very hard, because that's that's

(16:42):
a coach in panic. Okay, there's no pressure on the Warriors.
That's why it is that they did this year. They
took the pressure off of themselves because they had been
too three finals already, and so rather than have pressure
of being having the best record, they said, you know what,
we'll just state not say that they did on purpose,

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but they had a mental look at it and say, hey,
this is gonna be better for us. If we don't
blind for the regular season, let's just get to the playoffs.
So the pressure is on the team with the best record,
just like it was on them when they won seventy
three games. They have to win the title, and they
didn't and they were ridiculed. So the pressure is totally

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on You have home court advantage, you gave it away,
You have the best record, and you're down to one.
So the pressure is on Houston, it's not on Golden State.
I completely agree with you, and I almost feel like
he's trying to convince his team right that that he
has because you know how it is, will be some guys.
You're telling this pressure on him and they step up

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their game. They completely changed. Some guys they start forcing
things and and and and playing playing away in which
you're not going to be productive for the team. It
feels like the only reason he would say that is
because he has some players that don't welcome that pressure. Hey, actually,
and he's as he's smart enough to know that about
his players. He has two in particular who have not

(18:06):
done well under pressure. And I'm speaking of James Hard
and Chris Paul. They don't do well. Trevor reason will
do well under pressure. You you don't have the say
anything to him, even PJ. Tucker. You know, he's never
been in these kind of situations. He'll do well under
pressure because he's a tough, hard and those kind of guy.
But Chris Paul and say he's home. They are welcome

(18:27):
pressure too much. Holden Polinies joining us in the Doug
Gotlip Show. Can they or maybe maybe more importantly, will
they beat uh Igo? Dollar is limited, but he's been
Uh he's been upgraded, uh from well from doubtful to
what I think they're expecting him to play? Um, what's
your thoughts on the likelihood of Houston going in there

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and getting a win? They're not getting win. I called
this in five Warrior isn't gonna win tonight? You know
step is back. Oh, it's just kind of crazy. You
know there's a steps back, but that's bad. I believe
the Warriors win tonight and then they go into Houston
and finish them out. M still got the show here

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on Fox Sports Radio. Olden Polonies is joining us. How
do you look how do you view the Kevin Durant
and Lebron James in terms of not historical historically Lebron
has had a better career and been dominant for longer
as of right now, who do you think is the
more effective player? I believe Lebron is, But at the

(19:29):
same time, I say that Kevin Durant is just as
effective for his team. I think Lebron's um um, what
he's done is more encompassing because of the team and
the city behind. It's it's a it's on a bigger scale.
But I think Durant is just as important to the

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Warriors as anybody. And so, you know, it's I hate,
you know, doing the comparisons because it's always hard to do,
you know, and right now the only reason that we're
able to do it a little bit now is because
they both playing right now. You know, I don't do
the errors and all that stuff. But that's totally a
no no. Look, it's it's you make a great point.
We we oftentimes can get out of the Jordan versus

(20:12):
Lebron because it's a different era. The rules are different,
the styles are different, the personnel is different. Right there's
no power forwards really now in basketball. That would be
the type of guys and Marcus Morris when a few
power forwards remaining in the game in terms of size,
and he just shoots more threes than they used to.
But outside of that, there's not But the point is
it's hard to compare errors. But it's also hard to
compare same era, different situation, right exactly, same, very different situations,

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different players, different bodies, types, different positions. And one thing
I will say is this, and I've told people, here's
another way you can look at it. To me, Kevin
Durant is the only player in basketball that if I
said you can only do one specific thing to average thirty,

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he's the only one that could do it. If you
said you can only shoot all three pointers, he can
do it. All post stuffs, he can do it all.
Pull up jumpers for two, he can do it. I'll
grab the rebound, bring the ball up, pull up, whatever
it is, whatever you specify, He's the only one, in
my personal opinion, that could do that in average. Great stuff,

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Old Policies, thanks so much for joining us, and I
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of Milwaukee, the attorney for Bucks forward Sterling Brown says
his client is suing the Milwaukee Police Department following his
arrest in January. The paper reports that Brown was not
combative during the arrest, but police still chose to use
a stunted gun on Brown. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett told
reporters yesterday after seeing the video. He has concerns over
public backlash once the body camp video is released tomorrow,

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but Sterling Brown of the Bucks going to sue the
Milwaukee Police Department following his arrest. He was never charged
with anything that he was stopped by police for in January.
That's a hard one. Like look, there's there's good body
camp video and bad bodycamp video. Let's be um. Uh
did you see the one uh over the weekend that

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came out and uh it was it was an N
double a C P lee or who claimed racial profiling.
And then there was a The gentleman's name was Reverend
Jared Moultrie of Timminsville, South Carolina, And after he was

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pulled over, he uh he claimed um, he claimed that
he was racially profiled. And then when he and he
he made statements saying on his Facebook page that they
accused him of having drugs and guns in the car

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because he's black. Then the bodycam footage came out and
none of that took place, right, So look in Milwaukee,
obviously these officers, I don't know why you taste them.
Dude didn't do anything wrong, but not just Sterling Brown,
just any human being, forget for the fact he's a
basketball player, or whether it's because he's black or I
have no idea what the explanation is. But all body camp,

(24:55):
all bodycam footage does not always prove the cops to
be the bad guy. Sometimes the body camp footage proves
that the people the the accused are the bad guy,
or the pulled over are the bad guy. Um, white
or black. There is the woman in was that New
Jersey who chastise and used the F bomb to talk

(25:16):
to talk to some officers when she was standing outside
the car. She just had to go anyway. But yeah,
I mean, and Milwaukee of course has been uh distressed
some because of some other incidents between the police and
some of their citizens. I have no doubt. I just

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I think it's interesting that when one of these comes
out and it vindicates somebody like Sterling Brown's claims, we
should be appalled by it and somebody should have to
answer for it. But we have we don't have that
same level of offense taken when somebody makes something up

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like this. Reverend Jared Moultrie, who is the nub A
C President of Timminsville, South Carolina, thank you story. Just
be fair. Um, where was this, Uh, where was this
taken from? It's it's kind of what I said, he
said in a press conference to day's fascinating. Aaron Rodgers

(26:22):
has this desire to be honest, which is fantastic for us.
Now Ben Roethlisberger has the same desire to be honest.
But then Ben Roethlisberger gets pushed back and he completely
changes his mind. So here's the deal. Aaron Rodgers was
asked about the possibility of bringing in Dez Bryant. That's

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because Jason Witten, who's now the voice. He's now the
color anists for Monday Night Football, which is really remarkable stuff.
Jason Witten has offered exactly zero important or repeated quotes
in a fifteen year pro career. Like his pro career
with the Cowboys has coincided with my professional career covering

(27:07):
national sports, and not one time did I ever say,
you know what Jason Witten said. Now, he may be
great as an analyst, he may be unbelievable, But the
idea that Jason Witten is a big name, like Okay,
sure where they win one playoff game. He's a great player,

(27:33):
a great all time Cowboy. He had exactly zero quotable
quotes in his fifteen year career. The first thing we've
ever quoted him on is a podcast with Adam Shafter
to which he said he's gonna end up with the Packers.
Right Talking about Dez Bryant, Aaron Rodgers said, we like
young wide receivers, so I'm assuming that's the way they're

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gonna keep going. I don't know why you'd cut Jordy
Nelson and bringing Dez what. He's the talented players gonna
end up somewhere. If he ends up here, obviously we
welcome him with open arms, get him up to speed
as quick as possible. And Rodgers is like, dude, we're
not signing Dez Bryant, who's a pain the assid, a
bad rat runner and is over the hill after we

(28:15):
got rid of Jordy Nelson, who was a great route
runner and one of the all time great human beings
in Packer history. Noted noted anyway, So I love the

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honesty bug that Aaron Rodgers has, the fact that Aaron
Rodgers believes he's so empowered that he can go like
when we got Jordy and we're gonna sign Dez. No thanks,
no thanks? Uh speaking of which, And then there's Ben Roethlisberger,
who does say what he thinks until he realizes he

(28:58):
should keep his mouth shut. Uh. Ben Roethlisberger, remember when, Um,
when he was asked on a radio show that his
Steelers could have used to pick for a win now player,
he said he might have to point to the playbook
if he asked the question. Now, Ben Roethlisberger, who I mean,

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back pedals faster than any great cornerback in NFL history.
Had this to set. I think people took some things
that I said into a context that I was going
to be mean or rude or whatever, and that was
not it at all if you listen to the whole
conversation of it and said just in laughing and having fun.
So I've never been the type to just be rude
or mean to other quarterbacks. He tasts, you know Jones.

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And I've had a lot of quarterbacks through here that've
been younger me that I've tried to help anyway that
I can. So, Um, you know I'll continue to do that. Wait,
what he's like? People thought I'd be mean to him? No,
we heard exactly what you said. Why are you drafting
a third rounder instead of somebody they can help us win. Now,
that's what you said, correct, And then you were the
one who said, and maybe that's where you're joking. I'd

(30:03):
point to the playbook, but you did say it. You
did all these things, are thinking he took out of context.
Now we took in the right context. You said you
wish they would have drafted a player that could win
down instead of a backup. What was the context ben
of when you said you weren't fully committed to coming
back thinking about retirement? Where was that context? Guys, trying

(30:26):
to contextualize conversations to which we understand that, we fully
understand what you're saying. Nobody thought you were gonna do
neogies and atomic sit ups. And what's that spit thing
you do where you you pin somebody down, your big brother,
pinny down and they have the spit go all the
way down. Then they right before it hits you in
the faces, stuck it up? What's that? Is there a

(30:48):
Is there a word for that that's not Indian typewriter torture?
Dan Buyer, do you know the term for that? For
the spit thing? Oh? No, Um, you have a big
do you have a big brother? Were you a big brother,
so you have no idea, you have no idea, No,
not at all, a big sister. But that's it. Yeah,

(31:13):
she did she do that to you? No, no wedgies, no,
no nothing, no you do you know what an atomic
sit up is? Yes? Isn't that like where is that
where you well, let me try to describe it. Go ahead.
Is that where you like sit up and you're sitting

(31:34):
over them or yeah? So sort of sort of, yes,
I mean I think the idea behind it is you
have a you blindfold the guy. So this is the
old high school prank, which is now really you think
about it now, you're like, that's really gross. You blindfold
the guy and you pretend like you make to sit
up impossible to do. You don't blindfold, You just put

(31:54):
put a put like a towel over his eyes and
you hold him back from doing a sit up. And
then the last second you let the towel go and
you have somebody stand in front of him, and so
he puts his face into that human beings backside the
atomic sit up? Right, Yeah, we did those at John

(32:15):
Romos's birthday party. Let it out. It's awful, awful with
that what kids due to other kids. Was not done
to me in high school, but I did know that
it was done. John called it the Ramo special. That's
what that's That's why I was confused. Anyway. It's not
like Ben Roethlisberger said, I'm gonna do the spit thing

(32:37):
or the new Gies or the Atomics sit up or
the Indian typewriter torture. That's when you put your knees
on their shoulders and you just start beating on their
chest and it both hurts and tickles at the exact
same time. You're familiar with that, I believe now we
call it Native American typewriter coachure. Okay, Robinsburger didn't say

(32:58):
any of that, but he does have this Aaron Rodgers
thing to where he says it, but then instead of
owning it, he always does the just kidding, I just playing.
He took me out of context, whereas Aaron Rodgers his
I don't give a you know what is that index
is as high as anybody's in the game. Here's this

(33:19):
direct quote, and it wasn't from an obscure source. This
was at his press conference today. Man, we like, we
like young receivers, so I'm assuming the way we're gonna
keep That's the way we're gonna keep going. I don't
know why you'd cut Jordi and bringing Doz. He's a
talented player, and now, of course he says nice things.
He's gonna end up somewhere. If he ends up here,
we obviously will welcome open him, welcomeing with open arms,

(33:41):
get him up to speed as quick as possible. It's
yeah that any other quarterback. Where most other quarterbacks would
go like, hey, we love to have Daz. Anybody wants
to play here, A great players we'd love to have. Instead,
he gives the thoughtful answer, kind of tweaking them about,
like why would you cut Jordy Nelson to bring in

(34:03):
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a lot of stupid things that are consistently said during
the NBA playoffs. We have such we are so prone
to hyperbole. Uh, maybe it's because people don't understand how
to talk about sports. Maybe it's because they want the

(34:48):
era to which they're going to champion to feel bigger. Um.
Not really sure, but there are so we are gonna
go through them at the top of the hour. This
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(35:31):
It's called Rankum. Wake up, wait for hit and wait
for rank it is it is rank Um. Rank You know.
Jason McIntyre and Colin Cowherd have made their top ten
lists of the top ten NBA players after the regular season, Doug,
now is your time to do so. Who in order

(35:53):
your top ten players in the NBA. This is currently
right as of today? Correct? All right? I do uh
Kevin Durant one Lebron to Kauai three um Anthony Davis
for uh, let's see here now I gotta get five.

(36:17):
Is when he gets super super interesting, right because you
have the pardons, you have the steps. I thought it
was interesting at one, so well, look I just I
think that, and we did this a little bit with
Michael Jordan as well. We have a tendency to act
like Lebron James consistently is the defender that he used

(36:37):
to be. He's not. He dials it up sometimes he
can still be a very active defender. Lebron's Lebrons gift
is he can stuard any position. Kevin Rant is a
is a rim protector. Now, Kevin rand is pretty good
on the ball. Um, He's probably not as good as
good a rebounder, but he can rebound as well. I
think Kevin duran is actually when he wants to be

(36:59):
a little bit better, more active defender than even Lebron
is because he covers out in the court better than
le Bron. Lebron can do it in limited instances, but
there are times to which he cannot. Um so, and
then offensively, I just think Duransom much better score shooter score,
and uh, you know Lebron, it's it's a little bit
more bullyball. He's obviously a better passer. But even as

(37:20):
we saw last night, like Lebron didn't hit you know,
we have one jump shot last night. One. And I
do think once you get against really really good teams,
you have to get jump shots to win. Serious, I
do Durant one, Lebron to Kauai three, Anthony Davis four?
Who would you have five? That's that's where it kind
of to me, that's where it gets interesting, just because
I like guys. Obviously all of those, all of the

(37:40):
ones I listed, I can play both ways. I know
that James Harden hasn't had the greatest series, but I
would probably put him five right now. That would be
my I know, and that defensively, I know, but I
would probably put hard in five. Uh got your honest,
you got Westbrook, you got Kyrie, you got Yeah, and

(38:04):
Bed Simmons I would probably put. I would put Westbrook
at at five. UM. I would not put Simmons or
and Bed they're not there yet, they their potential to
be there. I would probably put Kyrie in there at
about six. UM. I put harden It around seven. Actually,

(38:25):
you know what, I put Steph ahead of harden Um.
I don't know what's our next question. Okay, Doug, how
about this. That's let's do a top eight. It's all good.
Ranked the rookies who made the first team All Rookie
Team today. There were five Donovan Mitchell, Ben Simmons unanimous picks,

(38:45):
Jayson Tatum almost a unanimous missed out by one vote,
Kyle Kuzma, and Lorie Marken In Well, Ben Simmons is
not a rookie. He's a red shirt rookie. But if
we're gonna put him on this, if he's on this
list and he was on that list, I'll put him
one um put now now is just as far as
how good they are, how good a season they had.
Like again, the context does matter. I was just saying

(39:08):
right now, if you had to rank the players for
what they have done at this point, not future endeavors,
but what they have accomplished and what they've done so far. Simmons, Mitchell, Tatum, Kuzma, alright, uh, Doug.
I on the way to work today saw Gilbert Arenas
on a bike. Okay, it was totally totally random. I

(39:29):
can top that. Okay, all right, what did you see today?
Tony Hawk on a skateboard? Really? Hey? Now? And I
think I booked him for this show. How did this happen? Um?
We both have the same kind of car and we
parked our cars. I was parked close to him, and

(39:51):
he popped out of his car, hopped on a skateboard,
rode down, got a cup of coffee where I had
gotten a cup of coffee, and then was coming back
and got hopped into his car. And I thought I
saw it when he him when he hopped out, and
he just just so naturally like and Tony Hawk on
a skateboard, and then he had a skateboard on the
front of his license plate. Now I was like, oh, yeah,

(40:11):
that's gotta be him. So I went up, introduced myself
and said, Hey, you know I hosted nash radio show.
He said, I know, I listened every day. You can't
might have made that last part up. And I said,
like to have you on cool here's the number. My
guy set it up. Oh not too bad. What is
that the most don't? Yeah? I was star struck. What's

(40:33):
the most random? Um? I saw? I thought it was
Tiffany Amber Thesen at the Chili's up the street. But
it was David hassele Off at the Chili's up the
streets about ten years ago, off before you made that
assessment that it's uh yeah, I was. I I when
I was new to the new to the city. I

(40:55):
knew where the Chilies was and I'd go there for lunch.
And one week I saw Tiffany Amber thieves in no kidding.
The next week I saw David Hasselhoff there. That's that's
my most random of all. This is game time on
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Sometimes it's not our point that we want to make.
That makes us look foolish. It's the supporting point or
the desire to take down somebody else's point, which makes
him look foolish. Right, the Lebron Jordan debate is fascinating,

(42:05):
especially because we've gotten to this place. There was a
time at the end of his career before injury where
we had somehow to Kobe Jordan's debate. Now, I felt
like that was one of those deals to which we
um we kind of forced, but it did make a

(42:27):
lot more sense because Kobe and Jordan's close to the
same size, Kobe and Jordan's close to the same position,
Kobe and Jordan both one in the same system. And
I think people would also remember that, uh, Jordan's had
to go through the Eastern Conference, which was stacked then,
and Kobe had to go through the Western Conference which

(42:49):
was stacked then. Right, Kobe's team took down, for example,
the Sacramento Kings that King's team was loaded, the Portland
Trailblazers was they were loaded. It like you go back
through who they had to the Utah Jazz, who had
two Hall of Famers, and so there was a lot
of similarities. How Kobe Bryant his first five six years

(43:12):
in the league tried to talk like Michael Jordan's, tried
to walk like Michael Jordan's. He wanted to be Jordan's.
So we used to have that debate, and now of
a sudden we're having this Lebron one, which is really
hard because they're so different. They just are not just
in size, but in style and in this Now, look

(43:37):
what happens so often when people, well Lebron James is
he has chanced to be in his tenth final in
fifteen years. Remarkable feat. But anyone who doesn't admit that
the Eastern Conference is the JV division and has been
for pretty much the entirety of his career, is it.

(44:00):
It's not that they're not paying attention, they just don't
want to admit that portion of the truth. You stand
what I'm saying. The perfect example of it is he's
gone through what the Indiana Pacers and who are they
go through Pacers, Raptors and now the Celtics. Right now

(44:27):
we can get to the virtues of the teams that
how good were the teams that Jordan's actually beat, and
we can get to a a Lebron and Kevin Durant discussion,
because Kevin Durant is on what everybody deems to be
a better team. Is that because a better team wants him,
or is that because he wanted to get a better
team and so it makes it easier on him, And

(44:49):
is it possible that both are in fact true. But
to people who say, hey, it's not Lebron's control that
the rest of the Eustern Conference, thanks, you're right, it's
not up to him, you know, it should be pointed out,
should be pointed out that he ain't going through Hall

(45:10):
of famers to get to the finals. Nickname the Hall
of Famer he's gone through doesn't doesn't exist with the
exception of the Boston Celtics when when they started to
be depleted, started to be over the hill and he
was in Miami that was, and he used to consistently
dominate them. The Pacers went. Paul George is the type
of guy that probably, especially if he goes to one

(45:31):
of these championship caliber teams, he wins one or gets
close to one, there'll be a Hall of Fame caliber
player like those are the best Celtics teams, and those
teams other than that, they weren't playing the Knicks types
of teams. With Patrick ewing that the way that Jordan was,
or the Pistons with Isaiah Thomas the way that Jordan was,
or the Jazz in the finals, or the Sonics in
the finals, or the Sons in the finals, or the

(45:54):
Lakers in the finals, like, let's make sure that we
mentioned I heard Cowherd say summer the other day, and
if this is what the Fox said, I don't listen
to what the Fox said. Before I heard cowhard say
something to which was a direct contradiction of itself in
and of itself. I love Colin and I'm going on

(46:14):
the show tomorrow. But he said, Hey, some of you
read about I was twenty seven in I watched all
the all the playoff games and there wasn't a hundred
over a hundred channels. My question to Colin is what ability?
How did he have the ability that no one else
did to watch all of these playoff games. But okay, anyway,

(46:44):
he started to go through, well how much you know,
lack of shooting all these other teams had he made
a complete non sequitur, uh non sequitor argument When anybody
who lived in the era knows that he went through
Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer and when he
got to the NBA Finals. He played, though the West

(47:05):
may not have been as good. I think of who
he played in the finals. Let me go through them,
the l A Lakers with Worthy he did not. They
did not have Kareem he had retired. They had Worthy,
they had Magic, they had Byron Scott. That's three Hall
of Famers in their team. He went through the Portland

(47:25):
Trailblazers who had Clyde the Glide Drexler in the peak
of his powers, and they died. They throttled them, bottled them.
They went through the Phoenix Suns. Charles Barkley was the
m v P. They went through the Seattle SuperSonics and
not only had Sean Kept, but they had Gary Payton

(47:45):
the Glove, one of the great defenders and point guards
of his or any era. They went through the Utah Jazz,
who had the greatest pick and roll combination maybe of
all time in the history of the NBA, and one
time Carl Malone was in fact the m v P
of the league. So he didn't just win the finals.
He beat the best team for the Western Conference who

(48:08):
weren't upsets to get to the Western Conference, and he
played Hall of famers to win championships. But I've heard
people say things that are just unfair and untrue, some
about Lebron, some about Jordan's. You hear bit, well, you
know he didn't shoot the three that well, which is

(48:29):
a fair statement if you only look at the stats
and you compare him to today's stats. You know who
else didn't shoot the three well? Any of these big guys.
Al Horford didn't shoot the three well early in his
pro career. But then what is the statement? Um necessity
is the root of all invention. Aaron Baines didn't shoot

(48:49):
threes until the playoffs and now he makes them. If
centers can go from never shooting outside of five feet
to becoming three point shooters in this era in the NBA,
my guess is that Michael Jordan, who evolved from the
best driver mid range guy, to the best UH to
the best jump shooter to the best post player, could

(49:11):
evolve into a great three point shooter even in this era.
So I've heard Jordan's didn't shoot threes wouldn't be as
good in this era, Like, are you kidding? If you
spread out the lane and you couldn't put a hand
check on Michael Jordan's how exactly would you guard him? Similarly,

(49:33):
I have heard that that Lebron wouldn't be great because
Lebron isn't as confident shooter like Okay, But Lebron, if
he's Magic, He's got a better body, he plays better defense,
and he's a far better shooter than Magic Johnson could
ever hope to be. I've heard the self people say

(49:54):
that Celtics remember going before Terry Rogier came on the road. Well,
maybe the sell looks are better without Kyrie Irving. Maybe
you trade Kyrie Irving and now, oh, Jason Tatum, Jalen
Brown better than Gordon Hayward. Apparently forgotten that Gordon Hayward
average twenty one and a half points a game last year.

(50:16):
There's a reason that he was the most sought after
free agent. Is he a superstar? No? But is he
a star? Damn right? You can win with him and
he can guard multipositions. You can score from any of
those positions six, nine, two, three, four this day and
age in the NBA. So I've even heard Kevin Kevin

(50:37):
Durant if he was on the Calves, they'd be home
right now. Really, do you think Kevin Durant with Kevin
Love and all those shooters would have lost in a
series to the Indiana Pacers, to the Toronto Raptors, or
to the Boston Celtics without Kyrie, without Gordon Hayward. Yeah,

(50:57):
I'm gonna disagree with that statement. Kevin Durant is a
virtually unguardable player, and if he has space to operate,
how are you gonna guard him? You know? And then
I've even heard the Kevin Kevin Durant could I can't
respect Kevin Durant And he'd only win because he joined

(51:19):
a seventy three win team, which is accurate. It is
fair to point out that he didn't just join that team.
They also shed a good amount of their bench, and
Harrison Barnes was their starting three man played some power
forward for them as well. But you know, Lebron James
when he went to Miami, he didn't just join Miami.

(51:44):
They had Duane Wade, who was already a finals m
v P and will be a Hall of Famer, and
they got Chris Bosh to sign there as well. There
really is very little difference from Lebron loading up with
a big three, plus you Adonis Haslem and all those
other guys in Miami me to what Kevin Durant did
ian Golden State. Oh, by the way, and then they

(52:06):
added Ray Allen. So well, I don't like Durant because
he Durant could only win a championship when he joined
the seventy three win Warriors. For Lebron did win a championship,
he had to join the Miami Heat, get Chris Bosh
and eventually get Ray Allen. Right, then he goes to

(52:30):
Cleveland and it wasn't just E didn't just joined Cleveland
won thirty one games, had Kyrie Irving, and they got
Clay Thompson. They got not excusing, they got um Kevin
Love to join them, like the thing is still the same,
it's still a big three, and then find ancillary parts.
Instead of having Draymond Green, they had Tristan Thompson. So

(52:51):
I just I get tired of if you're gonna make
your point and say, hey, look, I think Lebron does
more things well. I think he's become a much better shooter.
I think his level of dominance and consistency and ability
to not get hurt, I think he'd be you know,
he's big, strong, he'd play in any era. I think
he'd be better than Jordan's like your I disagree with

(53:12):
that opinion, but you're allowed to have that opinion. But
you shouldn't be allowed to do is just make up
false falsities and just leave them out there all right.
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Mike just share with me his best celebrity siding. You
guys know it was Gary Coleman. Gary Coleman doesn't mean
anything to music. Music has no idea who Gary Coleman was.

(54:17):
I thought he was gonna say Big Mike when he
looks in the mirror, that's just so you know, uh,
the the epicenter of Fox Sports radios is here in
Los Angeles, and Big Mike runs the joint. Don't let
anybody fool you. He walked, and he's like Gary Coleman,
I was like, you win. When I saw Tony Hawk,
who goat skateboard writer? Right, like, would Rob Dear Dick

(54:39):
go anywhere near close to that? Like in terms of popularity,
I guess he would, but not in terms of skill
and talent and right like omnipresence, like you say, like
he's the He's the Jordan, isn't he He's the chat
everything down? You say, Tony Hawk. It was weird too,
just tops out of his car, pops on his board,
glasses on, and I was like, that was Tony Hawk.

(55:00):
And then I was going to leave a note on
his car with my my phone number, not like a
you know, like that's a good way to just get
put on someone's radar for like keep this guy away
from it. No, just like, look, hey, Doug Gottlie, but
I gotta do a show on Fox Sports. Radio. I
don't want to bug you. I mean that was my
first thing. Is like, I'm not trying to bug you.
I just I think you're amazing. I would love to

(55:23):
have you. I want to hear your whole story. But
I want to hear it on my radio show. And
if you have a book, you can tell us about
the book, but then tell me your whole story. I
want to know how it went from that to like now, like,
what's right? He has to have been doing this for
forty years. I know he just turned fifty. I've been
doing this for forty years. Like, how do you go
from I'm writing skateboards with my boys too? Hey, there

(55:44):
goes the greatest skateboard dude ever getting a cup of coffee.
Do they still? I remember there was a Tony Hawk
video game every used to play, like pro skate that yeah, yeah, anyway, music,
what's your best to celebrity sighting? We I had like none? Uh,
the only one I can think of isn't even that

(56:07):
big and even that right? It was just person like
Rony Terry off down the street from the Galen Center.
That's he was at a Chipotle. What do you get?
I don't even remember don't act like you didn't stock
you didn't pay attention. I honestly don't remember what about you.
Ramos Ramos, he sees him all the time because he
coaches soccer, and a lot of them coach their kids. Yeah,

(56:28):
I haven't seen anybody at the at the soccer fields.
I did see Michael Anthony, the bass guitarist for Van
Halen at a um at a Coco's. Okay, I've seen
Kobe a bunch of times, but there's yeah, but we
I lived near Kobe, so it's so I don't feel
like it's the same. It's not a random, random celebrity
sighting is. I feel like it's better. The randomness of

(56:53):
the place I think is also more sometimes intriguing than
the actual celebrity. Like I was telling the guy, is
when I used to to live in in a different spot,
I saw Reese Witherspoon walking your dogs one morning. Okay,
Reese Witherspoon is definitely a bigger star than well, at
least in the States, than David Hasselhoff. But David Hasselhoff

(57:13):
at a Chili's. I think it's a better story, and
that's more random than anything of you know, any superstar
walking their dog or just being out doing a normal thing.
I used to see luf Frigno all the time at
the grocery store, the incredible hulk. I mean, but half
at of chilies. I think the randomness of it is
is key. Um how how tall is Lufrigno? I was about, Yeah,

(57:37):
he's I don't know, six three, that big. Yeah. I
always thought lou Ferrigno was was really small, no noise,
big guy, big guy. I mean, obviously he's a he's
a big dude. Uh yeah. Six listen at six four.
All natural, by the way, all of that was totally natural.
Frenow I saw Don Cheetle he was a had to

(57:58):
me at a Starbucks once. Yeah, I mean that's that's
that's a very you'll you'll still spot guys, and it
just it does happen, and it happens more in l
A than it does in Orange County. Although you see,
you know, you'll see how Mike Trout, you'll see a Kobe,
you'll see you won't see Philip Rivers says, you live
around there, you'll see some other charges around. Um, but

(58:19):
you do l A. You have a tency to celebrities
and everybody wears their kind of l a uniform, right,
which is some kind of Vans or dark sneakers, dark
jeans and a T shirt, sunglasses and a meshback hat.
I just thought of another random one. It was probably
about a year ago from now down the street from
here at the studio, there's a little spot to get

(58:40):
food at the end of like Van Eys Boulevard. And yeah,
see how Puig was there. But again not that random.
I think he lives nearby. So and not to not
to interrupt, you mentioned Mike Lynding guard's Gary Coleman sighting,
and he didn't go. He didn't explain. I will, and
you can ask Mike about this. Mike was trying to

(59:03):
get with a I think a girl way back in
the day. This is back in the dead, Yeah, because
Gary Coleman is dead now and she invited her neighbor
over to play scrabble. In the neighbor was Gary Coleman, right,
So that's the that's the that's the story he told me.
I just but again, Gary Coleman's one to which I'm
trying to think, what is the what is the modern
day Gary Coleman, who is a modern day Gary Coleman

(59:26):
right now, is there a young child actor who's taken
the world by storm on on on a mainstream television show.
Oh gosh, she's no. Young Sheldon's not as funny as
uh Coleman was. A young Sheldon would be the one, though.
That's that's a John Romos. That's a good, good job.

(59:48):
John Ramos is the one viewer that watches you. I've
never I've never watched it, but I know there's like
the young kids, and they kind of compare them to
like the Goonies. Is apparently that show Stranger Things, But
I don't even I don't even know. You've never seen Goonies. No, no, no,
Stranger Things. I've never. I watched one episode of one
and a half episodes of Stranger Things. And the problem

(01:00:08):
with Stranger Things is there was there was like a
kidnapping of of young kids and two shows to which
I like, I used to love s Lawn or SUV.
But I can't watch it now, Like I have daughter
and wive and you start to think like, oh gosh,
I only want to have the possibility of those images
with my family. I know my wife thinks I'm weird

(01:00:30):
like that too, but I just I can't possibly fathom
having those images in my head and then you have, um,
the other one is stranger things. I just I can't
do child abduction. I can't can't do it. Um huh,
because we weren't it spoiler alert. I guess, um they
were abducted by like aliens, right, it wasn't. Yes, yes

(01:00:55):
it doesn't. It doesn't. But the point is, like your
kid goes off and he's riding his bike with buddies
and then he's taken. That's enough. I'm like, yeah, you
know the other one that's like that. I never watched.
I can never watch Lost. At the time Loss came out,
I was playing overseas and I could just never handle
the idea. And I had friends that died in the
plane crash tolcoma state year after I. I just I

(01:01:17):
didn't want the whole premises based on a plane crash.
Couldn't do it, couldn't get best that I couldn't get past.
Then it got convoluted. That's what I lost. That's when
they lost me. They lost you, They lost you and
lost okay. Um. Sometimes people make statements for the opposite
meaning of what they actually say, like and Ramas you can,

(01:01:39):
you can maybe attest to this. There will be a
time in your marriage and I Dan hasn't been married
long enough, and Dan such a good dude. I probably
doesn't happen to him like it's happened to me. But
your wife gets really upset, and she says, just please
leave me alone, right, And you think leave me alone,

(01:01:59):
Like we're guys, Like you mean leave me alone, Like okay, cool,
I mean, all right, I'll talk to you later. But
that's not actually what they mean. They mean the opposite
of that. They say leave me alone, but they want
you to come in and say sorry and then just
hear them talking, listen, and just be there for them.
I know it's super confusing because guys just don't operate
that way, or at least I don't operate that way.

(01:02:21):
But there will be a time in your relationship where
your wife will say leave me alone, and she means
the opposite of that. That's what Mike D'Antoni did to
the media yesterday. Mike D'Antoni was asked about the pressure
on his team down two games to one, The idea
of being down three games to one to a team
with the firepower of the Golden State Warriors. He offered

(01:02:43):
this up right now to me all the pressure and
they're still they got a windom are nine. You know,
we should come in with a little bit of a
swagger and get you up in our dame and see
what you get it. We should feel good, we should
be happy, We should have a little swagger. We got
no pressure here, like, yeah you do. I think I

(01:03:05):
believe that Mike D'Antoni is trying to take the pressure
off his team, that he feels like that's one of
the things hindering some of their guys is that they're
thinking too much about the ramifications. The last thing he
wants is to get into the fourth quarter in a
close game against a team like the Golden State Warriors
and have his team thinking about every shot and the
ramifications of missing those shots. So he's saying the opposite

(01:03:28):
of what he actually believes, which is a guy's way
of saying, like my wife has occasionally saying the complete
opposite of what she means. If your check engine light
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can get it fixed right the first time, getting the
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didn't get a time to prep because you're a part
so much part of that second He's like, well, I
have nothing for you because I was paying attention to anyway,
Gordo says, Megan Fox sat next to me on a
bench in Westwood. I enjoyed my didd he Reese ice

(01:04:10):
cream sandwich and we had normal small talk. Oh interesting,
that's pretty good, especially if she was the one that
sat down next to him, Like if there was an
open spot and she was sitting on the bench, be
a lot easier if he was just like, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna go sit next to Megan Fox. But if
she just walks up and is there, that's completely random.
I don't know if Andrea Dallas could have played a

(01:04:31):
night for the Warriors. But the good news is last
night he was doubtful. Today he's questionable. With a swordee
Game four Warriors and Rockets in Oakland nine o'clock Eastern time,
Warriors are up to one in the best of seven series.
Jazz Guard Donovan Mitchell and six is guard Ben Ribbons,
Unit Ben Simmons were unanimous picks to the All Rookie Team.
Check that, let's try that again. Sixers guard Ben Simmons,

(01:04:54):
Jazz guard Donovan Mitchell unanimous picks to the NBA All
Rookie Team. Here's what's interesting me about the All Rookie Team.
Do you see where Alonzo balls in the second team
All Rookie Team. Yes, the Alonzo ball paid fifty two games. Okay,
that's it's just slightly more than half the games, and
he had an atrocious first two months, made first two
and a half months, and he still made the All

(01:05:15):
Rookie Team. The point is that while we freak out
and say, hey, Jason Tatum, Donan Mitchell, Ben Simmons was
not really rookie. What a great draft class. The deal
runs like three or four guys deep. That's really what
we've had now. Part of it is Marquelle Folks was
hurt and trying to figure stuff out. Part of it
is these draft class are super young, so eventually there
will be pay out on on these guys. We're talking

(01:05:37):
about three or four impactful players. That's it. That's a wow.
Folks made the NBA All Rookie ninth Team. No, that's
a that's a joke. That's a cheap shot by me.
I shouldn't have said that. The NFL has approved the
sale of the Carolina Panthers to David Tepper for a
report at two point two seven five billion dollars. Eagles
are releasing linebacker Michael Kendrick's well, Eagle said. Coach Doug

(01:05:59):
Peterson says this Super Bowl champions will visit the White
House on June five, but it will be up to
each individual player if they want to attend the event. Finally,
the MMQB dot COM's Albert Breer reports that as the
NFL owners meet in Atlanta this week, they're discussing possible
rules to put in place for the national anthem. Breer
reports that owners are discussing a policy for the anthem,

(01:06:20):
which could include a fifteen yard penalty for a team
if they kneel during the anthem. The report says the
league is considering letting the home team decide if the
teams will be on the field for the anthem or
stay in the locker room. It's just being discussed, but
that reported today. That's one of those like if everybody
come out with that idea is like, you know what
if we had a fifteen yard penalty, if they take

(01:06:43):
any like al, I write that one down, we'll vote
on it later. That feels like one of those things
that suggested that never actually comes to a vote. Yeah,
I was just kidding. That's a bad that's a bad
look right there. I understand that you want you don't
want to distant for inch eyes any fans. You just

(01:07:03):
you just don't because the part of the biggest problem
with the protest is, you know, people have taken it
to mean things that the intent of the protests didn't mean,
and they don't want to disrupt in their Sunday football,
So you don't want that. You have tough enough time
getting people to watch your sports in person anyway, let
alone on TV. But fifteen yard penalty, it does not

(01:07:26):
seem like a great play. I feel like, let's not
overreact to something that was just suggestion, just suggested by
the way. Gordos says Marcus uh as we wait from
Marcus Thompson from the athletic and to join US covers
to Golden State Warriors. Uh, Megan Fox sat next him.
I do have this problem, and maybe it's because I'm married.
I have zero game at all is christ The Thompson

(01:07:47):
says this all the time. She's like, why you never
shut up on radio? And I see you hanging around
other people. Why are why he got your tongue with
you're with me? I was like, here's crazy good looking
and I'm just uncomfortable. I just am sorry you lose
I've lost that part. So if Megan Fox that next
to me, I don't even know what I'd say, which
is weird because like if some thirty five year old

(01:08:11):
dude sat next to me and starts arguing the virtues
of Kevin Durant, which I explained, like, look, he's virtually unstoppable.
Scories actually awesome. I could have that conversation much more comfortably. Yeah,
that's the way my life is gone. Not great. Doug
got them show Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in, Marcus Thompson,
he joins us. Now it does a great job. He's
covered them for a normal newspaper. Now writes for The Athletic,

(01:08:34):
does a great job um covering, among other things, in
the NBA, the Golden State Warriors. I have a tough
time with this series, only in that I thought the
words were better. I thought Game one was a good
sign of that. Game two left me with some pause,
and I know that the Rockets had their backs against
the wall, but they were physical. Some of their ancillary

(01:08:56):
pieces did hit shots, and they really dominated that game.
Give me your sense of just how big a gap
there is between these two teams, much bigger than I
was hoping for, to be honest, Like, I'm so thirsty
for like a real series, right, you know something. They're
going six games with tense moments and big shots at

(01:09:17):
the end that I was kind of hoping. You know,
Houston was like right there on the hill and then
game too happens here like Okay, let's go. But the
reality is like the Warriors are just so good and
they have to play poorly and you have to play
almost perfectly in order to beat them. So can it
happen with more It's possible. I just don't from what

(01:09:40):
I see from Houston. It's not even really talent. It's
about the pedigree and the things that they do. It
just doesn't have the kind of pedigree you need to
beat the Warriors. They're they're just not ready mentally cohesively.
They're much more concerned about drawing files than they are
about beating the Warriors. All right, there's a there's a
bunch of stuff to dig into. Let's start with f Curry,

(01:10:00):
who finally looked like well Steph Curry in Game three.
What changed? I think he got he got a rhythm.
He he was hunting for three, like and I think
part of it was because, you know, James Harden and
Chris Paul, they're going after him and they're making highlights
on him. They're getting all these shots and you go
on this island. I think he wanted to answer back, right,

(01:10:21):
He wanted to come back and stick a three right
back in their eye. So he was hunting for threes.
I think in the second half he just decided, I'm
just gonna take the layups. And they made like three
straight lay up. They'reletting him get to the basket, and
eventually they just left him open and they asked him
open again. And then once he got his rhythm, that
was that. I think it was much more rhythm than anything. Yeah.

(01:10:42):
I thought he got his rhythm muster with some layups,
some finishing shots. He had a backdoor cut for a layup,
he had a couple other floaters, and I thought, and
then you know, once she kind of gets those you
see the ball go through the basket, and you make them,
you make them think that there's other ways you can score.
Now you get you know, one open look. And then
then he was hitting shots to which he doesn't a
defense didn't even really matter after a while. That's how

(01:11:03):
it was. The crazy person like that's that's not a
Steph Curry thing, Like I haven't made a shot, you know,
January practically, and I'm gonna hoist this thirty footer because
Chris Paul went under the screen like that's so Steph Curry.
And and that's when I knew he felt good. That
he would even take that shot. Is kind of is

(01:11:24):
kind of wild from the painted Oracle logo. Once he's
in that zone like you're done, there's nothing you can do.
And when he's playing like that, I just cannot um
I've I've heard people say we have wind Horse said
wrote that we take Lebron James for granted. I don't
think that's possible, especially you start, you start people start

(01:11:45):
calling him the greatest of all time, comparing on to
Michael Jordan. That's not taking somebody for granted. But whatever,
I do think we take durance, level of consistency, his unguardability,
and the fact that he contributes now at at both
ends a bit for grand did you've watched every game
this season? Give me your sense of Kevin Durant the
player and his level of domins You know what I

(01:12:08):
actually think we take We do take him for granted,
and it's the other parts of him that Kevin Durant man.
Like watching that dude scores like watching the sunset, right,
it never gets older and it's always breathtaking. Like he
just scores with like a with a fluidity that is unbecoming.
But in the last game, for instance, the first three

(01:12:31):
basket Steff made, those were Kevin durantasis. Right, He's out
here edishing, like running the running the play, he don't
want hit him with the back door cut like he
does all of those little other things. On top of
being like probably the greatest natural score we've ever seen.
That whole game was about getting stuff going. And this
was after Durant proved like saying, there was nobody in

(01:12:54):
Houston to garden, but he switched his whole game and
became an off ball score playmaker type instead of the
a one dominant ball score. So the fact that he
could do that, this is when Houston Stars can't do
right James Heart and Chris Bolshow and they can't go
off the ball and dominate. Kevin Durant just did that,
and from game three to game to the game three

(01:13:16):
he switched into an off ball score and was still
just as good. Okay, UM, help me out with the
Igua dollar stuff. Do you think he plays tonight? I
think he does. I think he. I mean, look, I
rever like Nick Young and all that, but I mean
the season is on Nick Young giving you fifteen points,
and then that's a rough spot, right, That's a tough

(01:13:37):
place to be in. I think ire is gonna figure
out a way to get on the court. I don't
know whether that's a Cortis own shot or what, but
he's already been upgraded to question, to move from doubtful.
I think you'll start seeing him gradually creep there because
I know he wants to play. And last night, when
I saw him leave the game, he did not think
it was that bad. He thought it was fine, and

(01:13:59):
something happened where overnight it got worse and he woke
up and was like, WHOA my knee? But I think
he's gonna knuckle it up and play, just because I
don't think he wants to. If they don't want to
make this a series. I know that. I know that
for sure, no, no question, that's that is what happens,
all right. You heard it, You feel find the adrenaline
of the game. Then then you get a bunch of
overnight swelling. There's also the possibility of you have Looney,

(01:14:21):
you got Jordan Bell you kind of you just kind
of see what work kind of throws some stuff out there.
But this is kind of the worst. This is like
your worst fear realized because he wasn't good for a
good stretch, is kind of mailed in the regular season,
and you thought, all right, can he just crank it
up and turn it on for another playoff run? Or
is this really who he really is? Ends up kind

(01:14:42):
of getting nick now and so the bench can get
a little exposed. What are your thoughts in the possibility
of using uh If Nick Young doesn't work that Jordan
Bells and Kevin Looney's in the world, I think he
has to uh and not that even even works, right,
Nick Young is going to be the shooter. You need
somebody to like play defense in that pick and roll setting.

(01:15:04):
I don't know if that's necessarily nick Young, but Jordan
Bell's the athlete. So if you can put him with Compella,
get him the switch, you know, you you give Looney
some breathe or time, right, Loony doesn't have to play
thirty minutes in the in the in the game like that.
I think he's gotta go with George Belle. I think
it was probably a blessing in disguise that he played

(01:15:24):
in last game and kind of give him a little feel,
give him a little taste first. But yeah, you I
think you see Jordan, but I think you also see
a little bit of Quinn Cook come in and get
three minutes that do score like eleven points in the
blink in garbage time last game. So maybe he comes
in and make a shot or two. The problem with
Quinn Cook is who's he gonna guard? And you know,
and uh, little guys do not fare all that all that. Well,

(01:15:47):
the other thing we haven't seen is we haven't seen
the great Clay Thompson quarter or Clay Thompson half yet.
Where has that been? It's been in Trevor Rees's pocket.
The Rockets are doing a great job of playing the
Nile details right, They're just they're doing like you know,
the defense they used to play on you, like, man,

(01:16:08):
don't let him shoot. Everybody's just face guard you and
way out at three point line. Clay he doesn't have
that great of a counter to that, so the counter
is to try to figure out ways to get him open.
And the Rockets are are covering that up. But I
think if step is playing like this and now, it's
gonna make the defense start tripping out doing weird stuff
and then you got the rent. Now, I think you'll

(01:16:30):
get more open shots for for Clay, and if the
Rockets are not on point defensively, he might get a
lot of open shots. Marcus, great stuff for you all.
Love your work with the Athletic. Like you on Twitter
as well. Appreciate you join us here in the Doug
Gottlip Show. Let's talk after tonight's game. Yes, sir, thank
you very much, all right, Marcus Thompson from the Athletic website.
You can go and becomes like a national sports paper.

(01:16:51):
It's pretty awesome. I write some stuff for them, uh,
covering college in the NBA Draft as as well. Chris
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(01:17:34):
like he just had too many quarterbacks, couldn't pick one.
Derek Carr is obviously their guy, and this is more
the Jets admitting a mistake. And it had bound to
have a conditional seventh round pick, which is, come on, dude,
you gotta give us something for a firmer's second round pick.
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or two. Find acient farmers dot com are Chris Carter
had this to say about how he views Colin Kaepernick
going forward. My thing with Cap not playing in the
NFL has always been with my association with the NFL
over the last thirty years, We've always promoted it as
the best players in the world, regardless of nationality, religion,

(01:18:43):
wherever they came from. These were the best football players.
And with Cap being out because of a peaceful protest,
it let me know you couldn't say that anymore. And
I knew that owners in general managers were holding against that,
holding holding that again, Cap holding that over his head
by not signing them because a lot less competent players

(01:19:05):
forget about being on rosters actually started games in the
NF al So, yes, I'm glad the evidence it was
presented and and we found out, Yes, that's we all
knew that Cap is still a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Um alright, So uh, this is what it says in
what he's react to is what Mike Florio wrote, Um,

(01:19:29):
if he's subtle on the surface, shift that happened last
July when kaepernick status went from being only about football
to being about non football considerations wasn't enough to prove
it's all about football narrative amount of to nonsense. The
ongoing collusion cases establishing that multiple teams viewed Kaepernick as
a starting quarterback in two thousand seventeen and they continued

(01:19:50):
to view him that way par a source with knowledge
of the situation, internal franchise documents generated as part of
the free agency evaluation process, testimony witnessed, harvested via dispositions,
and collusion litocation that established the teams you'd count Kaepernick
as good enough not simply be employed by an NFL team,
but to to be a starter. Okay. The problem with

(01:20:14):
it is being viewed as a starter doesn't mean doesn't
prove in any way that there is collusion, doesn't prove that.
By legal definition, collusion Kry, collusion is an agreement a

(01:20:35):
secret or a legal corporation, or conspiracy, especially in order
to cheat or deceive others. There has to be some
form of agreement between owners. Hey, nobody signed Kaepernick. Okay,
that's the deal, will show him. And unless you can
provide any sort of uh text message, email or phone call,

(01:20:59):
record phone calls that have owners saying, hey, everybody in
on this, because without without proof, there is no collusion.
Could he start a game in the NFL last year? Probably? Yeah.
Do I want him on my team? It's a different conversation.
Does he fit our system that's half the teams probably

(01:21:22):
doesn't fit. Does he fit our personnel? Remember he lost
his job in San Francisco one because of how he's
playing in two because of his inability to get people
behind him. The first time in his life he's shown
true leadership as a professional athlete is in this movement.
On the other hand, he still hasn't spoken about the movement,

(01:21:44):
So I don't just I don't think the anybody in
the NFL would dispute any of this. He views himself
as a starter. Was there a place to which he
felt like he fits. Look, the Baltimore thing is gonna
come down really hard on him, and he won't prove
the case. The biggest story in the NFL right now

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starts from World Day right, A lot of kids out
of school already. My kids are still in school for
another month. Thank you, California. Help us out. It feels
it does feel like. Look, it feels like that Celtics
um Calves deal is gonna go seven games. It just does.

(01:22:48):
And I don't know how the Celtics are gonna beat
the Calves, but I also don't know how they were
only down seven with seven minutes ago. Um. I just
I want to make this statement really really clear. I
like Terry Rogier a lot. I like um all of
those young Celtics a lot. There's a reason that Kyrie

(01:23:09):
Irving makes the money that he makes. There's a reason
Gordon Hayward makes the money that he makes. And I
know here's what happens is we see some success from
the Celtics, we see the points that are scored, we
automatically look, some of it is out of opportunity of opportunity.

(01:23:31):
Yesterday we had On Howard back on from Bleacher Report,
and I was like, look, I like Terry Rogier and
Marcus Smart, but tell me the other Eastern Conference playoff
teams that those guys start for like, well they know
they don't They're super quick, superactive, and they're really bench
They're really good bench players. When bench players play against starters,

(01:23:52):
they look like bench players. I said this all the time.
I remember saying this to when Tom Crean's out the
head coach of Georgie. He was the head coach Indiana
and they had so much talent. They were number one
ranked team in the country. I was sitting on the
decks at CBS and I was like, I remember he
used to have Victory Ladipot and he had were the
other two pros that he had on the same team

(01:24:15):
at the same time. He had Cody Um uh uh,
he had Cody Seller and he had one other NBA player.
Oh he had a point guard place for the Dallas Mavericks.
Now ah, shoot, oh he has a he has like

(01:24:37):
a Muppets nickname. Why I want to I want to
say Kermit, but it's not Kermit. Why am I blanking
on his name? I'll think of it Yogi Ferrell Muppets,
not Muppets cartoon. Hey, I'm having one of the average barrel. Yeah. Hey, anyway,
and they came to us at halftime, and I was like, Hey,
somebody should tell Tom Green you can take of those

(01:25:00):
guys out, maybe two of those guys. I don't take
all three out at once. You know why, there's a
reason those other guys come off the bench. You know
there's a reason Terry Rosier comes out the bench, and
that reason has been shown the last couple of games.
But it does feel like that one goes seven and
it comes down to can Lebron carry them late in

(01:25:21):
the game seven? Oh, it feels like the Warriors rockets.
Mike D'Antoni can say all he wants and the pressures
on them really has has a team come back from
three one down against the Warriors? Yes, two years ago,
But it's not a position I would like to put

(01:25:42):
the Warriors in. I would not like to have to
beat them three games in a row. It's not that
is suboptionable. So Mike D'Antoni can say all the time like, hey,
pressures on them. Okay, maybe maybe, but it's sure feels
like the pressure is on you. You fall down three
games to one after getting blown out last game, it

(01:26:07):
feels like the pressure is on you. It feels like
you're trying to trying to switch that pressure. Um. I
kind of dismissed this. I'll be honest with you, here's
the way we work. I call Ryan Music and we
start talking. He starts throwing out story ideas to me.
And I've heard that, like that, don't haven't heard that?
Don't like that? And he's like what he's asked meself

(01:26:29):
some time? What do you think this Brady thing with
him not going to A T A S. And And
I'll be honest with you, I I kind of blew
it off a little bit. I did, because I think
what happens is I do I have a tendency to
look things in how does this affect them as a
football team? And it doesn't. You know, it just doesn't.

(01:26:50):
There's no effect on them as a football team. So
you might say yourself or ask yourself, why are you
gonna talk about it now? Because then I started to
look around the league, and I realized that there are
thirty two teams like you just realized, thirty two teams.
No no stick with me. And I realized as thirty

(01:27:11):
two teams at this point in time all carry three quarterbacks.
They're all having O T A S. And they're all
having all three quarterbacks reporting. So I have my own
hypotheses over what this is. Over again, not theories, theories
are proven, These are unproven scientific thoughts. My unproven thought

(01:27:35):
is I think he's probably unhappy about some of the
things at work, but I think a lot of that
is triggered by being with Giselle. Giselle has said she
doesn't want him to play into his mid forties. Giselle
went go back yet last year and said he played
with concussions that he said he didn't have, and Giselle,

(01:27:56):
even in the time versus time, said he was not
being appreciated enough. So I don't know if Giselle is
being Yoko Ono or Giselle is just being the supermodel
that she is demanding. But whatever it is, I think
Giselle is helping stir up some of these emotions because

(01:28:17):
I don't believe this affects them when they kick off
the season next year. It really doesn't have any effect,
any effect on whether or not um doesn't have any
effect on whether or not they'll win the a f
C East zero, And I don't think it affects their

(01:28:40):
football team. He's been there eighteen years Josh McDaniel has
been there about ten in two different stints, and of
course McDaniel staging means he has stability there. He knows all.
You know, he's gonna be an incredible shape. But being
the only quarterback kah out of nineties six that is

(01:29:03):
not at O T A S is a statement. We're
in an actions not words sort of statement. You're never
gonna find out what it is because he can hide
behind the Hey, I just want to spend more time
with their family, and and maybe that is it, but
that's one of those excuses that you simply can't challenge.

(01:29:25):
That's like the my mom had cancer. You can't make
cancer jokes, right, Like, you just can't do that. When
somebody says I wanted to spend more time. Even when
stan Van Gundy clearly got stabbed in the back by
Shack and Dwyane Wade and pat Riley, he said he
wanted to spend more time in his family, none of
us could challenge that. It's like, ah, man, well, it's

(01:29:47):
like that's like if I went That's why that's why
people go to rehab. Something goes wrong, they go to rehab.
You get caught, you in your wife sex rehab. You
get caught doing some blow drug rehab, you get called
god drinking. I called rehab, rehab, rehab rehab. Why because
you can't challenge rehab be like, oh, he's got a problem,
we'll give him rehab. That's what happens when you say, um,

(01:30:12):
my family issues. But the interesting part about the Brady
thing is not how it affects the team. It's that
this is simply a non political, nonverbal statement being made
that he's unhappy about something. Maybe it could be in

(01:30:33):
my feelings are he's fighting the good fight to keep
playing in Giselle is like, hey, until they say you
have to be there, you're gonna be a father. That's
my deal with you. She don't want to play. She
thinks it's nonsense. She don't unless you're there, paying you
to be there. Why are you there? The only only
thing you happened is hurt being hurt. She doesn't understand

(01:30:55):
teams to model. But take a listen what Bill Belichick
said about Tom Brady Abount being here. Have you just
spoken in Frank boat about the people that aren't here.
The guys that are here are improving, they're working hard,
and those of the guys are gonna focus on I'm

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not gonna talk about it. So we're in a weird
place in New England. Gronk, it's been clear. It's about money,
about getting as much as he can because he knows
it's not gonna last as long as he wants to.
Bradies could be about money he's underpaid. Bradies could be
about respect. If your wife says you're not being they're

(01:31:37):
not they're not appreciate you enough. And of course, uh,
what's his name? Gray? Who? Jim Gray? Asked you a
question about not being appreciated enough? That could be part
of it. But whatever it is, this is a clear statement.
When there's nineties six quarterbacks and are at their respective

(01:31:57):
camps and the one who's been to eight Super Bowls
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the road is difficult for the Celtics. Can they can
they crank it back up, turn it back on at home?
And was it me or was youth clearly on display?
Rosier bad shot? Brown, bad shot? Uh? A couple of
bad shots from the youngsters down the stretch even when
they cut it to seven. Is it youth exposing itself?

(01:32:44):
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(01:33:09):
Do Do Do? I heard Christian Mannix and he's guest
hosted for Dan Patrick. He made some sort of bet
with Dan Patrick about shaving his head. He joins us
down on the Doug Galix so you can also hear
him uh Sundays from noon to three alongside NBA champion
Karen Butler. What was the bet? Well, the the original

(01:33:29):
bet Doug was you know, back in in November, I
wrote a column saying that the Celtics were gonna win
the This is like in the latter stages of that
sixteen game winning streak, and um, I just said, I
have seen enough from Cleveland to make me disbelieve in them.
Now a lot changed. Of course, Kyrie went out the
Calves bit a bunch of trades. But you know, here

(01:33:50):
we are in the conference final with these two teams,
and I thought enough of Boston to say that Dan,
that will make that bet go forward. So the bet
parameters are self excludes this series. I have to shave
my head. If they win, I get to host Dan
show with Dan in the back row. So uh, it's
it's a lot of risk. But summer one. Yeah, But

(01:34:12):
so there was was there cheering going on in the
press box last night or booing last night? Were I mean,
were you? Were you upset because now a sudden you
have to shave your head? No? I mean, you know
I did say that, Dan, and we had a little
bit of an argument that you know, we didn't say when,
And I'll probably do it in August when I can
just sort of hype for for a month, month and
a half for I have to reappear in NBA circles.

(01:34:36):
But uh uh no, I mean this series close enough
that I'm still uh I wouldn't say confident, but you know,
comfortable making that bet again. All right, So what what
what changed in your like? Look, I thought the officiating
did change, and people can well that's not I thought
that the Celtics were incredibly physical and the aggression at home.
I thought that Cleveland just manhandled them. In Game three,

(01:34:59):
it was it was to the point of being a
little ridiculous. And then last night just you know, Marcus
Morrison falco Will barely playing just it was really really
hard to tell what was a foul, what wasn't a fould.
I did not think it was a well officiated game.
But other than the officiating, what else changed? I mean
Game three, I don't know what you read into that
other than Cleveland came to play and nothing was gonna

(01:35:21):
stop him in that one. I mean, that was just
an avalanche. And when you see Brad Stevens go to
Gershon Yabasell in the first quarter, Greg Monroe in the
first quarter, you know he's searching for something to stem
the top. But games that's the physicality of the Caps
really made the difference. I mean, they lost the two
rebounding battles in Boston, right, and they go back to

(01:35:43):
Cleveland and they win those two rebounding battles and create
four by double digits. Um, there's Mannix. Hold on real quick.
Let's let's let's get Mannix and he's too good to
get him on a bad cell phone line. Uh, let's
we'll recalibrate that in in a second. Doug out the
show Fox Sports Radio. By the way, I want to

(01:36:05):
get to the Brett five story up coming next where
Farve said that he's been rehabed three different times. Really
interesting stuff with with with Peter King that have coming
after half past the hour. Chris Mannox worked for Yahoo Sports.
He's an NBA insider. You could also hear him Sundays
from noon to three Eastern Time, alongside NBA champion Karan Butler.

(01:36:27):
It's called Chris and Karen. Last week, Um, what they
had they had, uh Wallburger on last week, right, Yeah,
but not Donnie Wallburger. Now now they had Marky Mark
and Mark they had Mark Wallburger. Because Karen travels in
those circles Karen lives like in the in the Valley
now was always Hollywood types. He had Kobe last week

(01:36:50):
he had you know, he's he's Karen Butler, he's tough shoes.
All right, let's let's get back after it. I don't
know what we lost you, but you said the physicality
of the Calves was a big factor or last night. Um.
I also thought that look, Terry Rows years look like
a backup, and at times the two wings have looked
like twenty year olds for the Boston Celtics, that sometimes

(01:37:12):
sometimes there is a regression to the mean in addition
to the physicality of the older, more veteran cavaliers. I
agree with that. And my second point was that I
thought that ty Lou had a terrific Games three and four.
I mean, I think his adjustment to put Lebron on
Jalen Brown was effective. I think his adjustment to make
Tristan Thompson basically a shadow of of uh Al Horford

(01:37:36):
was effective. Uh we give Brad Stevens a lot of
credit when he pushed the right buttons. We gotta give
Tylu the same amount of credit when he does the same.
So I thought that was a factor and You're right, Doug.
The young players they regrets in this series. Um, and look,
he reminds you of a point that young players tend
not succeed in the playoffs. The Celtics played above their
heads most of the postseason, but in these these road games,

(01:37:59):
not just in the cast series, but in others, they
have looked like year olds that they are. Doug Gatlers
show Fox Sports Radio. All right, Dan Tony says the
pressure is on Golden State tonight, not on Houston. Do
you agree? No? I mean, let's get real, and the
pressure is on the Rockets. You know, you lose this game,
the series is over. Simple as that. It's gonna be

(01:38:20):
hard enough to win. You know three of the next
four games. You're not gonna win three straight to beat
Golden State. This game? Is this pressure not just on
the Rockets? Does It's on James Harden? I mean, this
game is a referendum on James Harden. I mean he's
got a sixty win team, another All Star in his backcourt,
the best supporting cast he's had in his Oklahoma city.
He's got to show up and that might not be enough.

(01:38:42):
But the pressure in this game is on James Harden.
To perform. I agree, and I've said before I just
I struggled to really enjoy watching him play. Some of
it is obviously the defense, and it's not just the defense, like, look,
Steph Curry is not a great defender, but there doesn't
seem to be the give up, uh the ratio of
of give up to play hard that there is. Harden

(01:39:03):
gets beat and it's just all right, I'm kind of
done with that defensive possession, whereas you you don't see
that as much from Steph. And then you know, I
think some of it is body language stuff. Well that's
fair unfair there there is kind of a different sort
of maybe almost aloofness h to his body language that
that I don't love. Um, you know, let me just

(01:39:24):
say this, Doug about about Harden. He doesn't look as
gas as he looks in last year's playoffs, but there
does seem to be a little fatigue I've seen the
last couple of games. And then that's a disaster for Houston.
Because the Warriors can survive a faulty Steph Curry, a
gas Steph Curry, the Rockets cannot survive a James Harden
is not completely agree with you. What what changed with

(01:39:48):
Steph Curry. I don't know that that anything changed necessarily.
It does feel like he's continuing to round back into
shape and get his rhythm back. And we're kind of
used to Steph coming off injury and playing great right
early in the season. He came off that, uh, the
ankle injury and set the league on fire for a

(01:40:09):
few weeks. The reality is, when you come off an injury,
there's there's a curve, right, I mean, you've got to
get your your rhythm back, and meanwhile, you're playing with
a guy in Durant who is you know, on fire
offensively and consuming a lot of the offensive oxygen out there.
So I think he just, you know, finally cut a
little bit of a rhythm in that second half the
other night, and there's no reason to believe that can't continue. Now.

(01:40:30):
The Rockets will do some creative thing to try to
force him into tough spots, but he's a two time
m v P for a reason. I think he plays
a great game tonight. I tend to as well. I
also think we may see something Clay Thompson. Know he's
been on Aresa Island most of this series, but it
does you think, let me ask you this, duck, do
you think this is fun? Like I get no pleasure

(01:40:50):
out of watch him the Warriors anymore because I'm sitting
there and I'm not covering the West Finals, but I'm
covering I'm doing the East Files, and it feels like
the Bronze medal game, like you know, we're watching, you know,
a coronation. And I know the NBA loves superstars and
the ratings have been good, but this just feels bad
for the NBA to have, you know, the the Warriors
just once again on cruise control. Uh yeah, I I do.

(01:41:14):
I just what's interesting about it is I still think
there's a there's a bit of a talent gap between
the two. I don't think it's as great as others others,
you know, like in terms of personnel, like you know,
the Warriors have their benches very young and very limited.
I mean, Igodala might play, might not play. You know,
Draymond is a great role play. He's like the probably
the best true role player in the NBA. But he's

(01:41:36):
not a superstar. It's just pieces that fit together so well,
and no one has been able to match kind of
those pieces. So yeah, I I don't think this will
be looked at look back on as one of the
golden eras of the NBA, even if this is one
of the dominant teams of NBA history. Well, I think
next year is where it gets interesting because you know,
I felt that the star of the season, that the

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next team to beat Golden State was gonna be Boston
in a series. Uh, and it might not have happened
this this year and it's not going to but the
way the Celtics play against them, the game plan they have,
the switch they can do on everything, the defenders that
they have. Um. You couple that with the offensive firepower
they'll have next year with their guys coming back and
the evolution of Katum and Brown if they wind up

(01:42:17):
meeting in the finals next year, to me, it's a
coin flip. Yeah, I I tend to agree with you.
I tend And as we see like, look, the you know,
Livingston has started to age, Iguodala has aged, and I'm
not sure, Like I like Jordan Bell, I like Kevon Looney,
but I'm not sure if they are going to be
you know, replacements. You know, the swaggy p thing until

(01:42:39):
this series hasn't really worked this year. And whereas Boston
you may not have a Durant of any of your
you know, I think Durant's the best offensive player in
the league, and he's not on the downward side of
his career. You might not have a Durant to match him,
but you can. The strength in numbers that Golden State
used to have is kind of what feels like Boston

(01:42:59):
will have actually have when everybody's healthy. Yeah, I agree,
And and you know, the the Golden State series down
the line, I think is one big reason Boston should
invest in Marcus Smart moving forward. Now he's he's a
total disaster Offensively, I mean, I don't know if it's
if it's all the hand injury. I talked to him
extensively about this last week and he was sort of
pointing to spots on his hand where his release has

(01:43:20):
totally changed. I know there's a ring finger problem with
him right now that's causing him a lot of pain.
But he is a train wreck out there offensively, but
defensively he's a force. And if you if you have
so many offensive weapons like Boston's going to have next year,
having that kind of Swiss army knife defender to maybe
put on a durant to muscle him to play against
the Steph Curry. That's gonna be an invaluable asset. Yeah,

(01:43:42):
I'll say this, and I love Marcus Smart and he
is he's the ultimate intangible guy. But there's two things. One,
he's never been able to shoot right, to go back
and track for me when he was it what you
want to say, hand injury has heard his development like, okay,
but he wasn't. He wasn't. He was never a good shooter, agree,
but before and um, the other part about Marcus Smart

(01:44:03):
is if you know you have a hand injury, why
does he take shots like he's Ray Allen? Like he
comes out hunting first touch, it's going up, which is
great and kind of part of what makes him him.
But he's not a guy. He's one of those guys
that plays like he's a great shooter even though he's
open for a reason. And it's the isolation stuff too.

(01:44:23):
I mean some of it is. You know, I thought
the Caps defense was great the last couple of games,
and they forced Boston til some isolation plans. But when
I see Marcus Smart kind of stepping back and doing
that victoral adipot stuff from a Pacer series. You kind
of have to face palm yourself there because it's that
you know that there's a a ninety percent degree of
chance that's not going to go in. He's not a

(01:44:44):
one or one player. What maybe he can be down
the line, And you're right, it's gonna take work. I mean,
he cracked for the first time in three years from
three this season. Um, what he needs to be is
just a spot up shooter that you can play, drive
and kick with and he's not even that yet. Yeah,
I agree with you. Okay, So you have Warriors tonight. Yeah,
I mean, how do you bet against him? I mean

(01:45:05):
unless the the absence or the injury the aquadala Is
is so significant and and Kevin Looney can't step in,
although their defensive numbers with Looney been pretty good too.
I don't I don't know how they win. I don't,
Like I said, I'm very curiously how hard in response,
because if he plays poorly, we'll be talking about this
game I think for a while. Yeah, and remember last year,
like people forget that they not they didn't just lose

(01:45:27):
to the Spurs at home. And was that game I
think that was Game five? It was they lost the
Spurs at home and uh, and they didn't have the
Spurs didn't have Kawhi Leonard. That was LaMarcus Aldridge and
the D League team like not the deal is the
summer league team. It legitimately was like three summer league
players that whooped up on the Rockets in that game. Well,
you brought up his fatigue. Look, one of the reasons

(01:45:48):
Oklahoma City was willing to trade him. It wasn't just
the trade demands. It was they played in the NBA
Finals and he kept going out. He was a disaster
in the finals, and they they told him not go out,
and he kept going out and he was still living
that club life. And they're like, this is just that
he's a hangout guy. We didn't want to have one
hangout guy around our other young stars, and that was

(01:46:09):
one of the reasons they chose that. I don't know
if that's the reason for fatigue, or if it's the
amount of times which he has the basketball and I
sell on offense and defense, or it's probably all of
it combined. But I do think there's a there's a
question about whether or not he has the gas in
the tank to carry your team when he has to
carry a team. Yeah, yeah, that I mean, look, I
I I don't know enough about his his social habits

(01:46:30):
to say anything on that, but you know, being an
isolation player that takes more energy out of you than
being a sort of like bald movement type of team.
I mean, having to carry that responsibility is huge. And
and look, I mean you're probably right about whatever happened
there in Oklahoma City, but I mean that was a
major screw up by the Thunder. I mean the Thunder
not not Maxium out at that time. And by the way,

(01:46:52):
you know, everybody likes to say that James Harden would
have said, give me the responses, to give me my
own team. I want to be in Alpha. Maybe that happens,
but those Thunder coaches there were there at that time.
I've all told me to a man that James Harden
loved being a sixth man. Has six man, So I
don't know. Maybe it would have come unraveled at some point,
but I think they would have squeezed a few years
out of part in the sixth man role. No, it's

(01:47:12):
it's one of those that's gonna go down as the
greatest what if team of all time. They had him
had three m vps right there, and they chose to
break it up before they ever got to their got
to their prime. And uh you know, um, you know
they yea, the same guy drafted them, so you gotta
give him credit for drafting them. And they've been able
to make it work to a certain extent, but they
also have a limitation that that ceiling has been much

(01:47:36):
slower than it would have been had they stayed. Great stuff, Mannix.
Hopefully you keep your hair. We'll see what happens in
that series. Appreciate you joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
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just talking about Rockets and Warriors. Nine o'clock Eastern, Tom
Warriors up to one of the series again, Andrea Dolla
questionable with that sore knee. Other NBA news to talk about.
First in Milwaukee, the attorney for Bucks forward Sterling Brown

(01:48:18):
says his client is going to sue the Milwaukee Police
Department following Brown's arrest in January. Brown was never charged
in a parking situation that Kurt occurred in late January
of this year. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports Brown was
not combative during the arrest, but police chose to use
a stun gun on Brown. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett told
reporters yesterday he has concerns over public backlash once the

(01:48:40):
body camp video is released on Wednesday. Jas Gard Donovan Mitchell,
and Sixers Gard Ben Simmons were unanimous picks to the
NBA All Rookie Team. The Celtics Jason Tatum just missed
out on being a unanimous pick one vote Shy Kyle Kuzma,
the Lakers in the Bullslry market, and round out the
first team. News from the NFL is the Jets of
traded quarterback Christian Hackenburgh to the Raiders for a conditional

(01:49:03):
seventh round pick. In The Eagles have released linebacker Michael Kendricks.
She spent six years with the team, while Eagles said
coach Doug Peterson says the Super Bowl champions will visit
the White House on June five, but it will be
up to each individual player if they want to attend
the event. And some baseball notes. Mariners second baseman Dee
Gordon placed on the ten d d L with a
fractured right big toe. Jose Bautista, recently released by the

(01:49:27):
Atlanta Braves, has now reportedly signed a deal with the
New York Mets. Doug back to you, Wow, Jose Bautista
with the net crazy. I mean he couldn't hit with
the Braves. And then it's like, yeah, we know, saying
division will take it. And then how about the curse
of second base of the Mariners can know on you know,

(01:49:47):
on the p D suspension as well as well as
being injured and then former p D uh positive tester
Dee Gordon now on the d L with a with
a broken sergeant. Holkay, did you uh Ramas, did you
see Deadpool two yet? No, I'm start trying to get

(01:50:09):
to Avengers Infinity Wire of War. Sorry, uh yeah, a
lot of people die and uh yeah, I was just
talking to Ryan who fills in for me sometimes on
the board. And you were saying you thought it was
too much for your son, right, yeah, yeah, And Lucas
is six, So now I'm debating that I shouldn't take
him to see it. Lucas is only six, Yeah, he's
only six, Yeah, would be seven in November. I think

(01:50:32):
I think too young. I think too young a lot.
And and it's not like, oh, it's not like Star
Wars where they disappear like use the force and throw
people off somewhere else. Bodies everywhere. Yeah, it's a lot,
a lot of a lot of that, a lot of death.
Doug Gotti Show on Fox Sports. Rade, you guys see what.

(01:50:52):
Peter King wrote his last column for the Monday Morning Quarterback,
and in it Bred Farve Um came out and said
that he had not been to rehab just once for
Viking in which had been reported, but apparently three times,
two times for alcohol abuse, which is one of those
really poorly kept secrets. Although I don't think we knew

(01:51:15):
the level of detail or the amount of alcohol or
all this different stuff that he came out and said, right,
because what happened was, if you remember, Farve had the
Viking in problem, and that's what he went to rehab for.
And people are like, well, far was a drunk too,
and Farv said basically, I yes, I was, and two

(01:51:35):
different times he went to rehab for for drinking. So
I don't know. I just I sit there and I
think it's great that far Um found happiness. That's one
of the things he said was he found kind of
happiness in retirement, and he found happiness in doing things

(01:51:57):
without boozing. Like he'd liked to play golf, he said
when he turned out he didn't like play golf. To
play golf, He like play golf because he got to drink.
Does say something about golf, right anyway, Um, I just
I sit there and go like I I like far
I do. I know he's super flawed, and I would

(01:52:23):
love to go back and and try and see if
I don't remember people even making him in to the
perfect guy. Whereas Brady is kind of perfection right, Like
he's gotten better looking over time, his haircuts have gotten better,

(01:52:43):
he dresses better than he ever did before. He's kind
of gotten more refined in there. He totally knows himself,
He totally knows the offense, like he's he's like the
cutout copy of how it's supposed to be takes care
of his body, whereas like I kind of like the
farv which is the and maybe this is me projecting

(01:53:04):
myself onto a player. I'm somebody who struggles to be neat.
I can't fold close. And if even if you have
a dirty laundry basket in my closet, my clothes don't
often find their way there. If they do, it's right
on the lip. But even when I just throw them

(01:53:25):
in there, Like if there's a basket in there, folded clothes,
not fuld of clothes, that's right. But you told me
to put him in there, I put him in there.
I'm somebody who works a little bit better in chaos.
One of the things about Peyton Manning, which I never
really Peyton Manning with somebody who had to have He's
the type of guy that had to have his pencils
over here and his pens over here and everything perfect.
I like guys that operate well in chaos. It's one

(01:53:48):
of the things that Aaron Rodgers does well. It's one
of the things that Breent Farve did well. Matter of fact,
the vicot in the year he actually was an m
v P that year, And one of the things he
said that Peter King was, you guys all thought I
was high on life. I was high on something else.
That's where I had. But here I am all high
on Viking and and I was playing at an unbelievable level.

(01:54:12):
So I'm not sitting there telling you you should take
vikating because you could be in an NFL m v P.
I'm saying that Brett Farve is somebody who operated well
amongst amidst chaos, and I like guys more like that
than guys that have to have things to be perfect
around them. It's a little bit like what you know,

(01:54:36):
It's a little bit like the pressure discussion we had
about the rockets. I think that James Harden must be
feeling some of that pressure. Chris Paul must be feeling
some of that pressure. Otherwise, why would Mike D'Antoni suddenly
put the pressure on somebody else? Right, Like if your guys,
there are certain guys that play better when you talk
trash to them, There's certain guys that play worse. There's

(01:54:57):
certain guys that play better when there's pressure on them.
There's certain guys that play worse. Certain guys that when
you try and punk them physically, they played better. Some
guys shut down, they play worse, and far of somebody
who seemed to play his best football when there was
somehow chaos going on his life. Think about the great
game he played when his dad died, his dad died.

(01:55:20):
He plays on Monday night football against the Raiders, and yeah,
his teammates they laid out and made great place, but
he was unbelievable. So look, I think there's a bunch
of different ways to shape it. It's a lot like
the Lebron Jordan's discussion. Jordan's was at was an absolute

(01:55:40):
killer who had to learn to pass, but he wanted
to take and make every big shot, and he had
to learn to find teammates. He still seemed to thrive
more when the stuff, when the stuff was on the line,
to give me the ball and all score more than Lebron.
Lebron is a passer who had to learn to score,

(01:56:01):
had to learn to be more aggressive, and even now
he still wants to facilitate a lot unless it's reaction.
If he has to think, it's not as good as
when he just reacts like he had at the end
of the Toronto series, in two different games. But when
you say, like Peyton Manning was the guy everything had
to be perfect except his ball. He was the best

(01:56:21):
quarterback to throw a bad ball. Tom Brady is somebody
who seemed to get better looking and better at quarterback
and more efficient and live a cleaner life as the
years went on. Bred Farv was the everyman who seemed
to operate better amongst chaos, great arm, but would make
some bad decisions, just like he was as a human being.

(01:56:45):
Probably has a good heart, but he made some awful decisions,
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got a bunch of stories. Hey, you're driving around your car,
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buy what you got. Well, we've got news from the

(01:57:31):
Jets as they have traded quarterback Christian Hackenburg to the
Raiders for a conditional seventh round pick. In conditional conditional
seventh round pick. I know you need any more conditions
in the seventh round pick. Well, I don't just say like, hey,
we got a bag of footballs without football's in it.

(01:57:54):
I mean we got a Khalil mac jersey for Oh,
how the mighty have fallen more? They missed on that
draft pick the way that Christian Hackenburg misses on his throat. Oh,
come on second on pick fifty first overall in that draft.
Of course, the Jets at one point at five quarterbacks
on the roster. Now it's Teddy Bridgewater, Josh McCown, and

(01:58:17):
of course Sam Donald one, two and three. Albert Brewer
of the MMQB dot Com reports NFL owners are discussing
a policy for the national anthem. One of the options
could include a fifteen yard penalty for a team if
they kneel during the anthem. Yeah, but the other team
niels does that? All? Does that become what's called setting penalty?
A question. The discussion will continue tomorrow. Judy Bautista the

(01:58:41):
NFL Network reporting that the discussion is still ongoing now.
Reports say the league also considering letting the home team
decide if the teams will actually be on the field
for the national anthem. The NFL, by the way, has
it proved the sale of the Panthers to David Tepper
Four two point to seven five billion dollars not too shabby,
not not too shabby. And he did it all in cash.

(01:59:04):
And when you say cash, that doesn't actually mean cash.
That means it's still a transaction. Uh. That it's not
done in small bills. Right, one billion dollar bills? That
would be great. Uh. Eagles head coach Doug Peterson says
the Super Bowl champions will visit the White House on
June five, but it will be up to each individual

(01:59:25):
player if they want to attend the events. A lot
of pressure on guys to not go. That would be
fascinating to see who goes. Carson Wentz Wentz to the
practice field today working out and throwing practices as he
returns to the field five and a half months after
having surgery to repair his injured knee. This was once earlier.
So far it seems fine, so limited to some respect

(01:59:45):
as far as what I can do. So the brace
is something that might never want to use it as
a crutch by any means, but just to to feel
a little more protected, to make sure the doctors feel
a little safer within everything. But it's something I'm just
now really getting used to. I love that he doesn't
want to use the brace at a crutch. No use
the braces a brace, use the crutch as a crutch.
By the way, Uh, Carson Wentz stores a cl about

(02:00:06):
five minutes ago. He's he's on the football field in Philadelphia.
Tom Brady is fine. He's known to be found in
the ESPN's annual rankings of the most famous athletes. Christiano
Ronaldo ranks number one in the world, with Lebron James
coming in at number two. I don't live in the world.
I live in America, okay. And in America it's Lebron

(02:00:28):
James one. Uh, Steph Curry to Odell Beckham Junior three, J. J.
Watt Captain America four. Interesting because Tom Brady is the
highest ranked football player in this list, coming in at
number thirty eight the entire world. So it means people

(02:00:49):
in the entire world only watch the Super Bowl. Yeah, messy,
neymar and Roger Federer around out the top five. Oklahoma
state coach and former Montana head coach Bob Stitts, who
lasted just three seasons with the Grizzlies. We did this today.
We closed on our home in Missouli yesterday. I'd like
to thank all the helpful people that placed the for
sale signs in our yard in the past three years.
Since we sold it without having to list it, I

(02:01:11):
thought that was kind of funny. That's pretty amazing. College
sports is pretty interested. It's a real thing. And uh
let's wrap up with this. Bay Area Hall of Fame
president Kevin O'Brien says they will redo the plaque of
soccer star Brandy Chastain, which was unveiled last night as
she was inducted into the Bay Area Hall of Fame.
O'Brien saying it will cost a lot of money, but

(02:01:31):
it's the right thing to do, as the plaque looked
nothing like the soccer star. How did no one stop them?
How did that happen? You had one? You had one job?
It looked like Andy Rooney. Uh No, also teeth on
those things never look good. Just close the mouth. Teeth

(02:01:53):
never looked good on those statues. Was the press Houstern
Golden State tonight, Ryan Music, Who do you like, Sir?
I will go with the Warriors. Uh, what about you?
John Ramos wors big, big, big league, like ten ten
points or more, win ten points or more? Dan Buyer,
are you gonna go against the Grain to eight and
a half points, I'll go Warriors bigger. I'm gonna say Warriors,

(02:02:18):
close game, close game, Houston covers, Golden State wins. I
think we have a close game tonight. Somebody either hits
the Buffalo wild Wings, but now somebody makes the call
to be like, yo, we gotta keep this thing close.
So I'm gonna take the Warriors in a close game,
but not the Rockets to win. We'll recap it all
tomorrow and find out if Tom Brady shows up at

(02:02:39):
O T. S. Huh. That's upcoming on The dug Otlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio.

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