Why The NBA Regular Season Matters & NBA Champ Dahntay Jones

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You're listening to Boom, What Up America, Doug gott Leave show,
Fox Sports Radio. Man, do we got a lot to
get to. We'll react to the Celtics drubbing of the
Calves last night. We'll take you to Boston. I will

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also be joined by Dante Jones, of course, former teammate
of Lebron James in studio in about an hour and
a half. Jason Whitlock is gonna join us later on
the show I Want It talks about Andrew Luck who
apparently still has not thrown the duke the duke. Uh
and and I know a lot of you have at

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least discussed this new anthem policy. Wait to hear what
Steve Kerr had to say at the Warriors shoot around
about the NFL's anthem policy and the follow up question
which appears to have been missing from anybody who had
a microphone that was taking in what Steve Curse said.

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So all that to come, let's get to what we
saw last night. UM. I sat with my daughter last night.
I was helping her study and she's um, she was
reviewing feudalism. You guys, remember what feudalism was like feudalism

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feudalism was um, it was a time and when when
lords it was like lords then knights, right then surfs.
Lords owned all the land, Nights protected those lands from
barbarians and servest it all the kind of daily mostly
agricultural work, or they were kind of like indentured servants

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around the house. You couldn't move up in the social structure,
but you could definitely move down. You lost everything. You
could move from a lord potentially to a surf. No one,
there was no these stories that you hear Disney stories,
you know, where someone's a surf and somehow they marry
a lord, like that didn't actually happen in real life anyway.

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My daughter was asking me, like, how much of this
do I really need to know? Which is a great question,
and I was like, I didn't come up in daily
conversation with me, hasn't come up before, But I do
think you need to know what feudalism is because if
somebody represents you know that's like feudalism. You don't want
to be the person that goes, oh yeah, and have
no idea what they're talking about. And then I went

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to the other room. My son was was doing some
math He's nine doing his multiplication tables and oh yeah,
by the way, they do math totally differently now than
we had done previously, and he was like, how much
this do I need to use? It's like some you
know you need. There is addition the multiplication division like
aligab about not really geometry. No shot trigger Commond, try,

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come on, I took it. I still haven't. I couldn't
go back and answer one single question. But I was
thinking about about little things that you learn along the
way in a semester, and about how everything has weighted
towards the final, and you'd get to the final and
there might be a week or two weeks that you
checked out I didn't need that, and then turns out

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there's a big section on it on the final. I
remember a test like that. That's the NBA playoffs are
getting to be like home court advantage man or your show.
They can go and win one game Houston, right game
one like our muscles. There goes your home court advantage.

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Remember the Calves up until the last couple of weeks
of seed, and they weren't paying attention as much to
winning or losing or where their seed. It was more
who we're gonna play. We want to get the right
seed and play the right team. It's funny because when
the final comes around game seven, if there's a Game
seven in Houston, Golden State, if there's a Game seven

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with the Celtics and the Calves, those two teams who
are both favorites. Let's remember this about Lebron James. I
know many of us, myself included, will give him a
bit of a pass on what appeared like shutting it
down last night. Right. If Lebron James team loses to
the Celtics, Vegas had them as the favorite. A matter

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of fact, even after Game one, Vegas had them as
the favorite. After Game four, Vegas had them as the
favorite to win the series. So this would be an upset,
This would be um Vegas would deem this to be
a major upset if the Celtics, without their two best
players won the series, even with home court advantage, and

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especially in the Celtics Cavs series, where you could you
can tell me all you want. Corn venation is a
matter of Lebron James won Game seven in Boston. For
he has it might not play a huge factor with him.
But if you watched the Celtics off this postseason at all,
have you how have they performed on the road versus
how they performed at home. It's like bipolar like multiple

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personality disorder. Right, call them Butcher at home, call them
Jim on the road. They're different people. Whether it's youth
Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and Terry Rogier, even Marcus Smart.
Young players that play feed off the energy and almost
the there's a little bit there's just a tinge of viciousness,

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a lot of toughness that comes from the Boston crowd.
Is it real or pretend real? I don't know, Like,
look you're I don't care. If Boston can tell me
how tough a town it is. If you make enough
money to buy a playoff ticket to a game seven
the NBA, plus you're doing okay for yourself. You've got
some courts sort of ancillary income. This is not like
a bare knuckles in the middle of Boston Commons when

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anybody where, anybody can show up. So this Boston fans
are tougher than Cleveland fans. Like you're making a pretty
good coin if you go into one of these games.
But there is an energy that comes from the garden
crowd that those guys clearly feed off. Additionally, they're able
to get away with being much more physical now. Game

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seven's are usually very evenly and and actually well officiated games.
They're more physical than most playoff games, less physical than
the grab and holds fast we've we've seen throughout the playoffs.
They're pretty well pretty They play it straight up and
usually the best team wins. But if you're playing a

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young team that is completely different at home than it
is on the road. While it isn't the end all
be all, it doesn't necessarily completely decide the series. It's
kind of a big thing, you know. And as much
as we consider and go, regular season doesn't matter. See,
it doesn't matter. Home court advantage doesn't matter. That's the

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that section doesn't matter. This class has all weighted on
the final. Dude, it's all but final. Then the final
comes and there's that section and you look at it.
You're like, right, what, Wow, I might be screwed. You know,
I thought to yourself, killing it good, got a good

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tutor studied. But if you don't know it, you don't
know it, don't know what cold, So I don't know
what to make of Lebron somehow being disengaged late in
that game. Um when I see two pieces of tape
around a water bottle and I believe that to be

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what other people like, maybe he's either maybe one Lebron
is super German phone guy. Don't touch my water bottle?
Very possible, very possible, um to it. Also could be, Hey,
I'm not feeling good, don't anybody touch my water bottle.
Also both could be true. And just because he's not
feeling good doesn't mean that, uh I one thing about

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not feeling well. And I don't know how you guys
are when you play. I feel better when I play
the sport like I've never missed. The only time I
ever missed a practice ever in my life was was
when I was sick at Oaklhom State my senior. My
coach made me go home two days in a row
to not get other people sick. Because when you're stuffed
up and you play, everything kind of opens up. You know,

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you just feel better now afterwards, or when you sit
down and slow down, you start to feel you don't,
You lack energy and you get lethargic and you start
to get get get congested again. But when you're actually playing,
you feel fine, You just might, you might might miss
a little bit of a hitch in your step. I'm
willing to can see that he's a little bit worn
down physically, mentally, emotionally. I'm willing to con see that

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he also thought himself w winning this game. We said
it at your game one. Game one was like, when
you winning this game, I'm not using all my energy.
I'm not. I'm gonna save it fro when it really
really matters. And one of the problems with the gift
of Lebron is not just that he's physically gifted. Mentally,

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he's obviously brilliant. Sometimes yeah, I think yourself, though not
just in terms of overthinking his jump shot, but he
over outthinks himself in terms of all right, I'm gonna
shut it down. And now you do put a ton
of pressure on your teammates to pick it up in
game six. So that you have the pressure, you have
the energy for game seven. Here's one last note about yesterday.

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Uh game five, and yesterday's story was about Kyle Corver.
Game five, Kyle Corver was excumeing. Game four, Kyle Corver
was incredible, and before game five, the story about the
death of his brother. Going back into March uh, Brian
Windhorst did a very good job chronically, but then we
we didn't see him in the first quarter, like where

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is what did Kyle Korver do? Who? Whose corn flakes? DPN?
He went from an incredible weapon, making shot after shot
after shot to you don't put him in. Here's Tyler
on one. Initially he's been putting all of j in,
so that's been kind of Cal's matchup when he comes
in the game. But he didn't play him tonight, so
you know, it kinda threw us for a loop. But

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we got brought out with two and a half minutes
and I started a fourth he wasn't ready to go.
So the same thing happened game I think one or two,
I can't remember. So and as much as you can
sit there and go, I can't believe that Tyler wouldn't
play Kyle Korver. Considering the matchup, Remember Kyle Corver, they
had to have to find somebody he can guard on

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that court, and by their estimation, chemy Ojally is the
only guy that can guard on that court. That he
can guard on that court because he's not there. He's
not a very good shooter yet and by the way,
Shammy Old when he matches up with Kyle Corver can
guard him, falls asleep. Doesn't realize you gotta stay attached,
constantly attached to a shooter, whereas he's more actually of

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a four man trying to learn to become a perimeter player.
When you're thirty seven years old and you're just a shooter,
you got to find just the right spot, just the
right matchup. And while Brad Stevens gets a ton of
credit for his out of bounds plays and for some
of the sets and for how hard his team plays,

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that was about matchups. And in game five he made
a noted roster move in terms of who he was
gonna play and shortening his bench, and it worked. So
would I have still put Kyle Corver in, Probably because
he had such a hot hand in game four, But

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I completely understand the idea of like, look, when you're
thirty seven, there's just only a couple of there's one
or two guys on the other uster that you can
guard that you can stay in front of. You don't
want to make a guy he can't take him is
too much for him. Brown's too much for him. Rosier's
too much. Those guys are too quick, too explosive, doesn't
you're on an island. The NBA can't do anything about it.

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I gotta find a guy who you can guard. So
I do think that's a viable excuse. Even if I
would have given him a look against what would have
been a bad matchup. They just needed some pop and
they didn't have any. By the way, here's Tyler being
asked about how Lebron felt. Did Lebron look tired to
you and especially you know, did you think he looked
tired at all? No concerns. Gotta be ready to play now,

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no concerns. Here's Lebron on how he's feeling my moments.
But I think everybody at this point it's tired or
worn down or whatever case may be. But I'm still
trying to make plays to help our team win, put
us in position to win. And uh, we had moments,
we had an opportunity, but we didn't. Um, we didn't
make enough place. Yeah, we're making excuses for Lebron that
he's not making excuses for himself. I do think the

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Lebron's tired. Hey, everybody's tired. That's the Steph Curry's hurt,
not injured. Everybody's a little bit banged up right about now.
I'm just fascinating series and it will be interesting, especially
to see if what we all pa pooed and blew
off hey home court advantage doesn't matter ends up really
really mattering, especially in a series to which these teams

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Why are the Celtics so much different at home? And
is there another CounterPunch that Cleveland has when they returned
to their own home. Lebron James gonna miss the finals
for the first time in almost a decade. We discuss next.
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It's It's amazing though. It really is the difference home
versus road for the teams. Right, if you just parachuted
down from outer space and you haven't seen any other games,
and you watched Game three in Cleveland, you're like, Wow,

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this series is gonna go four games. Cleveland's gonna swep.
If you watch game five or game one, you're like, well, wow,
Boston's gonna sweep this series. Right, it's four games and none.
It's crazy. Let's try and figure out what we saw
last night and what's gonna possibly what could possibly change
in the coming nights. We don't know everything, but we

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know people that know what you want to know. You know,
sounds like you meet a guy. I got a guy.
Adam Himmel's box covers the Boston Celtics for the Boston Globe. Um,
all right, what was the biggest adjustment made? Was it

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chemy osually not playing? That's what That's what changed the
game for Boston. I mean, I don't I don't even
think it was necessarily a big adjustment. I think it's
what you were just talking about earlier. I think it's
that they were home, like they ran the calves and games,
wanting games too. For the most part, but then once
you lose, afterone starts freaking out, what do you change?
What's gonna go? You know, what's going to be different
this time? And you know, just like that Buck series

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when they would be pretty bad head of Milwaukee three times,
they also beat Milwaukee pretty badly four times at the Garden. Uh,
you know the chemy change was was different. You know,
they put Aaron Bain's in the starting lineup to change
things up a little bit. That certainly helped. They weren't
be on the glass as much as they were. But
the biggest, like if you made all those changes in Cleveland,
I'm not sure they win. I think the biggest changes
being home, Yeah, but I think they go hand. And

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as far as being at home, is it confidence that
the young guys have in making shots there? Is it
the way in which the game is officiated or maybe
I guess both. I think it's I think it's both. Um,
you know, the officiating everyone gets worked up about. But
really like there's a lot of players, like if you
I would love like how they put out the last
two minutes report. I'd love to see like a full
game report for some of these playoff games. And it's

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not even like to me, you know, and I'm you know,
I don't. I don't have enhanced video like they're doing.
And it's just my untrained eye. But it's not even
like like they're making the wrong calls. It's just that
the fifty fifty calls generally go to the home team,
it seems like. And and that happens pretty consistently in
the playoffs, or maybe a no call like something you
see called in one place then is not called when

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it's on your home court. And and people say, oh,
that doesn't make up for like at difference. You're right,
it doesn't. But those can swing a game, and all
of a sudden, you're down eight, you're down nine, the
crowd gets into it, and then and then things get
rolling and it just kind of unravels from there. And
I think it does have an impact. What's your best
guess on what was going on with a Brown last night? Um,

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you know, Marcus Morris was able to stay in the game,
he picked up the foul trouble in Cleveland. I wasn't
really able to guard him. He's the primary defenders. He
was able to be in there and guarding him, you know, Tyler,
which I was surprised acknowledged that he thought Lebron looked tired,
which even if he thinks that he usually wasn't say
stuff like that. You know, maybe Lebron was a little tired.
You know, he's been so kind of superhuman basically always

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that when he you know, there wasn't even like you
had that bad of a game. It was just he
didn't dominate like we've we've seen so many other times.
But I think, you know, I wouldn't surprise me at
all if he kind of gets back to being Lebron
tomorrow night. Right, But that that is, that is one
reason he was able to he was his Marcus Moore
has gotten a foul trouble that you talked about the officiating.
That's the differences, right, One play here, one play there,

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and you can sit here, you know, guys are supposed
to in front of their lockers. Say, well, that didn't
change the game. But it does change the game when
you have your primary defender, a guy who one of
the few guys who athletically embodied bodies a type wise
can at least do something to keep in front he's
out of the game. That dramatically changes things. Yeah, No,
you're right to us, like and even last night, you know,

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I didn't see really good replays of it, but the
two early fouls on Kevin Love, he was like exasperated afterwards,
and he doesn't usually react quite like that, like like
he was just didn't understand how it could possibly be
fouls and he goes to the bench late in the
first quarter and sits for a while. It does, it
shifts things. But in the end, also, like you mentioned earlier,
these young guys to kind of ride the way of

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the Jayleen Browns, the Jayson Tatums, Tarra's ears, they do
ride the way about this rowdy crowd, and it is
one of the rowdiest crowds in the m A. There's
no question about that, no question about it. Level of
confidence that they can actually win Game six on the road,
oh they can. But I've said all alonger I think
it's gonna be a home series. I think the only
so I think the way they could win six is
if the Cavs veterans kind of pack up and kind

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of see in the back of their minds, look, we're
not gonna go when we're not we're not winning Boston
like like they had Lebron had a forty two point
triple double game. They lost double digits last night. The
Celtics shoot and win by double digits. If the Calves
are kind of defeated and been like, look this thing,
this thing, but we're not no mat that that's the
only way I can do the Celtics winning six. But

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I still think the Calves win six. Then it comes
back to Boston and the Celtics closed out. Yeah, and
then I think I kind of think Lebron's kind of
sitting there going I'm gonna need every amount of energy
I can have to have a superhuman Game seven. We'll
we'll see Adam Hamil's back a Celtics beat right for
the Boston Globe. We'll see what happens in Game six
and maybe Game seven. Thanks so much for your insight.
I got a guy, Big Schwartz covers the Calves for

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Bleacher Report at Calves Greg br is his Twitter handle Greg. Well,
what's your assessment of what was really going on with
Lebron last night? Yeah? I think it was pretty clear
he was not um And I think for the Cavs,
you know, you you kinda enter the mindset. This is

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the fifth most minutes already that he's ever played in
a playoffs and regular season in his career, number one
being in in two thousand and seven. So and you're
already in top five minutes and you have you reach
the finals yet, Uh that that's not a good sign
for Lebron. And you know, certainly we've seen throughout these
playoffs he's averaged over forty minutes a game. Um. A

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lot of that, you know is guarding bigger players, guarding
athletic players on the wing. Um, we saw him. I
think it was Game four that was the best defensive
game I think he's been all postseason, and I think
it took a lot out of him. And then between
games uh two and three, you had that three days
off and now you're backed only one day off in between.

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Uh yeah, I think that's definitely had a toll on Lebron.
And uh he's a guy that thrives on maintenance and
and taking care of his body, and when you only
have that one day off in between, I think that's
maybe starting to catch up to him a little bit.
Can they do you think they have the fight in
game six? Oh? Yeah, they definitely have the fighting game six.
I mean Boston has been terrible on the road all postseason.

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I mean, they went to seven with Milwaukee Bucks in
the first round because they couldn't they couldn't win a
game on the road. UM, So I'm not worried about
him in Game six. I think this is still gonna
come down to Game seven. Um, I think most people
who covered the Cavite and Celtics would agree with that.
I think everybody's you know, for the most part, it's
probably gonna expect Cleveland to go home and take care
of business. I I don't think I've ever seen a

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series where one team looks so good at home and
just so utterly terrible on the road. And you could
speak that way about Boston and Cleveland. Just the what
they get out of their role players, um, the percentage
that they shoot, defensive intensity, whatever, whatever it is. I mean,
all that is just so elevated by the home team
in this series. I think Cleveland still gonna win Game

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six comfortably. Um. We we've seen g R. Smith and
George Hill, these guys have been much better at home.
I think this is just gonna come down to Game seven,
and really it's not looking good for Cleveland right now.
Give me your assessment of what Tyler admitted with the
Kyle Korver thing. Hey, we didn't play him early because
we didn't see that Shamy osual A matchup that he's
been exposed. God, I thought that was terrible. Um, I'm

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just gonna be honest with you. I thought that was
an absolutely terrible decision on a night that you are
struggling to generate any sort of offense. You don't play
Kyle Korver the entire first quarter, and he's been your
third leading scorer in the postseason by far, your best
three point shooter. Came in shooting about on threes. And
I mean, you're not getting any offense. Um, they're neutralizing

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your role players. Jr. Smith's giving you nothing, George Hills
giving you nothing. I thought that was a prime opportunity
to bring in to bring in Kyle Corver at the
end of the first run some sets for him, use
that two man in action with him and Kevin Love
that they've been so good with, especially in the Toronto series.
You don't use them at all, and then you don't
use them for most of the third quarter either, and
by the end of the third quarter of the game

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is getting out of hand. I mean, you were approaching
fifty points deficit. That to me was just I I
didn't understand that all when Corver's first of all, he
should be your starting shooting guard. I understand there's a
deficients on defense from him, but the effort is there.
And for him being the third leading scorer and not
even coming in the game in the first quarter because

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you were waiting for Boston's eighth best player to come in,
I didn't understand that all. I thought that was a
terrible coaching decision. Well he he did cop to it.
Great stuff, and I love your pin. Greg Schwartz joining us,
a CALVS beat writer, covers it for Bleacher Report. Craig,
thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. So you
needed a guy, We got you a guy. Yeah. I

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I only disagree with it from from this perspective what
I've given him a look. Yeah, but I also understand
that I think even Quarver knows he's got to have
just the right matchup to not get totally exposed offensively.
And we can sit here, and we can sit here
and say, you're Tyler has lost his mind. He shouldn't have.

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But Tyler does know Quiver can't guard anybody. You gotta
find a guy out there that he can stick to.
They cannot switch with where you hide, because otherwise it
doesn't matter. With this effort, he just gets left in
the dust. But it is, it's fascinating, fascinating to see.
Let's get to Dan buy Er find out what else
going on sports Dan? Is that the Angel game live? Um, well,

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it's about to be not live anymore. It's eight to
one in the bottom of the ninth inning, so the
Angels are taking it to the Blue Jays. Mike Trout
home run number fifteen on the season. So I don't
know if there's a delayer if you're looking at highlights,
but I'm looking I'm looking at highlights. That's all right,
the bottom of the ninth one out Angels up on
the Blue Jays eight to one. They're also heading to

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the bottom of the ninth That Cincinnati Reds on top
of the Pirates of five to four. While that ever
popular Orioles White Sox game battle of fifteen win teams
in the fourth inning, Orioles up night. Nothing on the
south Siders. How about some of the NBA Warriors Head
coach Steve Kerr says, that Clay Thompson has expected to
play through a knee string tonight, while Andre Iguodala is

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a game time decision with a knee contusion. Warriors in
Rockets Game five nine o'clock Eastern tim series is tied
up at two a piece. Cast forward Lebron James a
unanimous first team selection to the All NBA Team, as
was James Harden of the Rockets. For Lebron, it's his
twelve time being named to the first team, breaking the
market held by Karl Malone and Kobe Bryant. The Athletic

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reports the Orlando Magic have an interest in Michigan State's
Tom Izzo. Doug Weather. New York Times says the Magic
will also interview former Hornets head coach Steve Clifford for
their coaching vacancy. You know is obviously they had all
those issues with Dr Larry Nassa and some of their
old issues that at Michigan State UM came up as well.

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There's completely new administration there, new athletic director. He was
really close with the former a d and new president.
New board knew everything, and so it wouldn't if there's
a time to go, I just you know, look and
I also think that Izzo carries with him the baggage
of he should have gone to Cleveland last time he
had a chance. That was before remember Lebron James made

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his decision to come back. I know there were some
also some rumblings lately. And I'm not a big recruiting guy, Doug,
It's not my thing, but I followed big ten sites
and I've just heard a little rumbles of maybe Michigan
State isn't getting some of the guys that they were
hopefully in on that at least in this most recent
recruiting class. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, look,
he had there are preseason number one, He's got two

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that will be one will be a lottery pick in
Jaren Jackson, the other will be close to He's got
a good team coming back with Nick ward Um, He's
got a point guard back. They had a pretty stacked roster.
So I don't Yeah, I don't think do I do?
I think that it's time for a change. It's not
crazy for time Zo to go like, hey, I've been

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here for thirty years, remember us, and to to assist a
long time assistant before he got that coaching job. I've
been here for thirty years, um, thirty plus years? Why not? Right?
Cash one last check? I just when I hear they
have some interests, it's interesting talking to him and see
if he's If there's the interest is mutual. But some
of this is also the Brad Stevens effect. Right, Brad

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Stevens can win in the NBA after winning in college,
why can't Tom Iszo? I love Boston Guy. Boston Guy
is still bitter that I said, Hey man, the Angels
have the two best players in baseball, and I'm looking
at show Heyo Tani who has two hits today, walked twice,

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hitting three twenty on the ear, and of course Trout
hit his fifteenth home run of the year. He's on
base of the time. Okay, oh yeah, and is a
really good frontline starting pitcher. His splitter is as nasty
as anybody's in Major League Baseball. I didn't say the
Angels are good. I just said they got the two
best players in baseball. Um, I'm okay freaking out now, right,

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I'm okay freaking out now. But apparently Frank Reich is
not freaking out. This from the what is this team? Website? Again?
This is the official team website. Frank Reich continued to
preach patients, noting he's not fret fretting over Andrew Luck,
not throwing a football. Note, not worried at all. Can't

(28:18):
cut things short. There's no reason to cut things short.
It's a day to day process, evaluation, and just trusting
in that. I'm completely comfortable with him throwing when he's
ready and when doctors say he's ready. He's totally engaged
in every aspect of what we're doing. Mentally, the physical part,
for a guy like him, you've got to work at it.
But I'm not worried about that. There's plenty of time.

(28:40):
You guys like yogisms, Yogi barra isms. What's your what's
your favorite favorite heading? Over till it's over? Is probably
the most famous? Right baseball is? Uh? Is? Uh? Was
it physical? Mental? Is that? What it is? One of

(29:00):
my one of my favorite yogism is right now, it's
getting later early. It's getting later early. That's it. It's
getting later early, which is genius. Right, it's not over,
and it's it is. We still have a long time
until actual NFL snaps matter, but it's getting later early. Like, dude,

(29:27):
you gotta be throwing him. First, you have to know
if you can do it without hurting it. Then you're
gonna have to build up strength and endurance in that strength.
And then oh yeah, by the way, you gotta build
up accuracy. And then after all that you got it,
then you got game speed, game competition, game reps. We're

(29:49):
not talking about he's struggling with throwing the deep ball,
or he hasn't quite gotten his accuracy in his footwork,
or is throwing motions a little bit different. He is
not throwing a football. And this is the you had
one job type deal. Right. It's like the the Brandy
Chastain statue or you know, right where it didn't look

(30:11):
like Brandy chest It looked like Brad Chastain more than
Brandy Chastain. Like that guy had one job to do
make it look like her. He failed. I mean, pay
may never threw a football, great, but to not throw
a football for two years and everybody's going like, oh,
it'll be fine. How do you know, I just you know,

(30:32):
can't step step skip steps just faith Okay, I'm freaking
out a little bit. Yeah, we're not forget about whether
he could take a hit on it, right, he's got
a new offense, Like, oh, well, he's been doing the

(30:53):
mental reps. You know it's better than mental reps. Physical reps. Yeah, yes,
bright music. Is there any sort of If you're the Colts,
what you're buying is the fact that you can look
at someone like Tom Brady. Tom Brady hasn't had a
shoulder injury, but he did tear as the c l once.
So you're hoping if you buy it in the short

(31:16):
term he gets fully healthy, he can still be an
effective quarterback for another, you know, decade plus when he's
almost forty. I mean, is that really what they're just
hoping on right now? I just think you're hoping that
he's healthy. When he's healthy, you're you're a double digit
win team. You know last year they didn't look last year,
they didn't have the roster to protect him anyway. Last

(31:37):
year didn't matter. So I just dude, at some point,
you haven't thrown a football in a position which calls
for you to throw a football forty times a game
like that's that's we're getting to be it. It's May.
Kids in the Midwest already had a school. It goes fast.

(31:58):
We're at the end of May May twenty four, gone fast,
isn't it. So that's June and they get July and
then in August you're in camp and to not have
thrown a football. Remember a lot of guys who are
coming off injury, a lot of guys who are young,
they get that armed fatigue from throwing so much. In camp.
The guy hasn't thrown, so you can say, well, who
is arm will be arrested? Like yeah, if it's works,

(32:24):
what happens if if the pain comes back? We don't
have any idea. So this feels like it does feel
a little bit like listening to a doctor. You know,
have you ever sprained your ankle and you go to
a doctor and doctors like, oh, you gotta say, I
gotta get on crutches for like a month, Like well,
how is it that when I sprained my ankle, I'm
on the crutches for a month and NBA player you know,

(32:46):
ice stim and they play the next night taping it up.
I mean, look, doctors are going to be extra precautious
because no one wants to be the guy who was
like yeah, he he was, he was rehabbing fine, but
that dumb doctor told us to le let him throw
the football letter rip one or two times and he reinjured.
No one wants to be that guy. So it does
feel like, hey, take a month off of the sprained
ankles sort of thing, Like you mean to tell me

(33:08):
that it's not rehabbed enough that he can't throw it
just one time. Just let me just just one time. Nope,
I'm not gonna do it. Doctor's orders. Andrew luck is
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(34:13):
a year and a half and like, no, we're good.
We're good. We're good, we're good. No, has has has
not thrown any football. That's not throwing a football. That's
but I'm telling you everything's fine. How's your business doing great?
How much money you guys making? Not a penny? That's

(34:34):
so good. That's good of you. Not a penny? Nope, nope, Uh,
all right, let's don't let's do it. Let's play game.
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If Andrew Luck was on Shark Tank, would you just
say I'm out? Or would you want like five percent
or fifty of the Andrew Luck business? You'd just be like,

(35:18):
I'm sorry, I don't see a future. That's what. Yeah,
that's where that's exactly what? Uh? What's his name with
the Mavericks, Mark Cuban would do Wait, okay, so you
want me to buy something to which you have not
yet accomplished. Okay, for that, Look it sounds great. You
look great. You're good looking kid, your colts number one pick.

(35:39):
You've been to the playoffs, greatest comeback and playoff history
against Kancay, get all that, haven't touched the football in
almost two years. And for that, I'm out. Are you good?
I think that? Yeah? Yeah, I think John and Ryan
I think are going in as partners, maybe on Andrew
Luck each getting five percent. I don't think it's now.
You woudn't go to five percent. You'd want you know,

(36:01):
you'd want some you know, like Mr Wonderful type of deal.
Right Like, No, here's what's gonnappen. You're gonna give me money. Alright,
You're gonna give me money, and I'm gonna take the
company and gotta get a royalty deal. All right, The
game today is all right. Guess who joined James Harden
in the back court of the All NBA First Team

(36:22):
announced today. Damian Lillard, Yes, receiving seventy one votes out
distancing Russell Westbrook and DeMar De Rosen for the first
team backcourt honors. Ye. Look, people forget that they had
an incredible second half of the season. Um, and he
was he was a dominant player in the league. Lillard's
issue is he's not a very good defender, doesn't doesn't
play that hard defensively, and also not you know in

(36:47):
the scatter report in the league is to make him finish.
He's not a great finisher, but he's a prolific, prolific
three point shooter who carried Portland to a far greater
seed than they probably should have, and then Water found
its level in the playoffs. Um, this is a regular
season award, and he rightfully won regular season First Team
All NBA. Even if I don't think he's close to

(37:07):
being one of the top five or top ten players
in the NBA, he played above his level for about
two months. Steph Curry and Victor Oladipo with the third
team guards. Guess who Doug is the coach of an
NBA team that took some of his players to watch
Game five of the Eastern Conference Finals last night NBA
Tyler and Brad Stevens, Not David Fizdale. Yes, Fizdale, the

(37:28):
new nick said coach took Frank Blackina, Emmanuel Moodier and
Damian Dotson to last night's game trying to bond with
some of his new players. That's the that's the greatest
thing I've ever heard. That's it's called a busman's holiday.
You guys know busman's holidays when you do what you
would do at work in your free time. Bustman's holiday.
So anyway, it's a busman's holiday for David Fizdale. Of

(37:48):
course he has the connects, I'm sure with the ESPN
NBA some pretty good seats. But it's got to be
the weirdest thing ever for those guys to be watching
an NBA game. I'm guessing it's the first NBA a
game any of them have seen in person, not playing,
since they joined the NBA. It's also the only way
the Knicks can make the playoffs. There we go, that's

(38:11):
too easy. Guess who Doug wants Dwayne Casey even though
Toronto doesn't want him anymore? Team Oh Detroit Pistons. Yeah,
the Pistons just tired Ed Stefanski to be a senior
executive from the Grizzlies. He'll look for a new GM
and a head coach, and WOJ is reporting that Quate

(38:31):
that that Casey is the top choice for the Pistons
to take over for stan Van Gundy. Interesting. I just
I found it fascinating that the but yesterday um was
it in Doc Rivers got a contract extension. His team
didn't make the playoffs. Dwayne Casey had the best record
in the Eastern Conference coach the year, and he was
at least at this point still out of a job.

(38:52):
So anyway, I found that to be ironic. Guests who
dug on the crew warrant earring in college on the
crew weren't earring in college. You yes, it. It happened
for a month. It happened for a month. Sophomore year
in college. Decided, you know what, let's do this. Let's

(39:14):
get the left ear lobe pierced Hooper study. Well, that
was part of the problem. You gotta go stud early.
But I wanted to go Hoop like because we were
going Me and some roommates were actually going to take
a road trip to Ohio State to go and spend
a weekend. So I wanted the w hoop earring in.
But I had to keep the stud in for a
certain amount of time, and I was like, oh the
heck with that. So my ear got infected and a

(39:35):
month later, Yeah, the earrings. The ear ring wearing was
no more. Do you ever have any arrings? No earrings?
No tats? Yeah, no tats for me. This is game
time on the Duck Gotlieb Show. I don't know if
I should give at forty too long that's his Twitter handle,

(39:58):
any sort of creditor or shif out out on radio
since he has two followers and it's clearly a troll move,
But I will anyway. You said, the disrespect continues. Calling
your co workers by their last name, very strange habit. Well,
whoever you are, just know if I was to say
Ryan and you hadn't yet listened to this show, would
you know who Ryan is? Or John is or Dan

(40:19):
is that's Dan fire ram Everybody calls Ramos Ramos. Even
Ramos calls Ramos Ramos is this third person thing all
the time. It's very uncomfortable. And Ryan music is in
fact music. The NFL is not perfect, but I love
that people are ripping it for all of our problems.

(40:41):
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(41:07):
Sports Jason Smith. We got a hell of a lineup
and m For the last twenty four hours, everybody's discussing
something that we had a chance to discuss first, which
is the NFL's new uniform policy. Of Remember, uniform policy,
there's two is double entange with the word uniform. Uniform

(41:29):
can mean clothing you wear a uniform comen you know,
covering the entire league uniform policy of Hey, you come
out of the field during the at anthem, You're gonna
stand up, You're gonna get fine, you don't have to
come out in the field. And it's it's kind of
a middle ground that was reached without an attempt truly
to have a middle ground to kind of try and
hash it out after they tried to hash it out previously. Um,

(41:54):
here's what I think is amazing right now. I am
a Here's what I am. I'm an extreme centrist. I'm
a common sense politician. That's what I am. Um, Because
I think both sides can be incredibly hip hypocritical. You

(42:17):
just can now what I'm probably gonna say it might
offend you, but that's the U problem, not a ME problem,
because it's actually inoffensive if you see the basis of it.
I don't believe that you can be ah pro smaller,
less intrusive government and somebody who believes abortion should be

(42:38):
made illegal. Right. I want less government, but I want
more government as to what a woman can do with
her body. Those those two ideals conflict directly with one another, right, um.
And so what I try and do I believe in
kind of common sense. And I also don't fall into
the line of of uh politics, which play to the

(43:04):
very very extreme right. I believe we should have a
welfare system, but I don't think that it should be
so forgiving that you can stay on forever and ever
and ever. It should be a shot in the arm
to somebody who really is knocked off their feet and
wants a chance to get back up, but needs a
little bit of help for a short period time. I
think that's fairly reasonable. You know. I'm somebody who believes

(43:28):
in universal health care. I just think we have to
find a really smart way to pay for it, because
the truth is we're paying for it anyway. You get
hit by a car, clock crossing. I sit in a
studio that overlooks suppoled to bovards. You will across the
street you don't look, which I have a tendency to do.
Occasionally get hit by a car. You don't have insurance,
It still gets paid for, you still get medical treatment.

(43:49):
The only difference is now, or at least before they
dispanded Obamacare, that we were all kind of paying for
it with our premiums, a little bit more so than
we thought. Anyway, these things are comp cadd and simply
playing to the fringes. I don't think is where most
of us sit. Most of us are sensible, most of
us are in the middle. So when it comes to
the kneeling before the national anthem, I'm not a huge

(44:14):
fan of it. I'm just not. Not because I'm not
sensitive to people who feel disenfranchised, or to the plights
of people who feel like the police police brutality, but
because I hold our country to be a special place,

(44:34):
and having lived in other countries, I understand what that
flag at least means to me, not even taking in
the military, but people have represented us have what's the expression,
stood at in that wall right and made sure and
insured our freedom On the other hand, I also understand
that our freedom is supposed to extend you the right

(44:54):
to protest. So I don't like it, but I under
stand your reason behind it, or at least I understood
what I think was your original reason behind it. Here's
what I find fast in the NFL passed the rule,
which basically is just like the NBA's rule, and because

(45:17):
they didn't hash it out with the players, and by
the way, I think it's a little disingenuous to what
the what the players are saying, Hey, listen, we didn't
this was not collectively bargained like you guys met, you
guys met. I'm sure this was one of the things
that would discuss. It's a possibility. A matter of fact.

(45:37):
Jalen Rose yesterday on Get Up was like, Hey, I
think they should have something where you don't have to
come Why don't why don't have to come out for
the anthem, which is what the NFL said, You don't
have to come out for the anthem, but if you
do stand up for the anthem, which by the way,
mirrors the NBA's rule, mirrors it. So they did try

(45:58):
a compromise without having to reach some sort of formal compromise.
But here's the amazing part. Whether the NFL mishandled this
thing or not where they didn't understandn't see what they're
walking into and trying to make it like the NBA
or not. Inconsequential police brutality, that's not an NFL issue.

(46:21):
Domestic violence has become an NFL issues. It's it's not.
This is a societal issue, right, Like the NFL is
getting blamed for our problems. Now wait, no they're not. Yeah,
they are right. Police brutality is not an NFL problem.

(46:42):
That is not a Roger Goodell problem. It's just not.
And and if if your argument is, hey, listen, what
they're doing is to bring attention two things like happened
to Sterling uh Um Sterling Brown of the Milwaukee Bucks. One.
Did anybody who's a sports fan not know what happened

(47:04):
to Sterling Brown? Two? Your mission has been accomplished. We
are all well aware you have actually accomplished your goal
of bringing attention to police brutality. A matter of fact,
there's been a couple of stories to which people claim
police brutality is actually a one story which a woman
claimed to be sexually assaulted by a police officer. They

(47:25):
pulled the body camp footage and she had made it
all up. You probably haven't heard of it, you know why,
because no one has taken a protest to bring attention
to when people make it up. We have brought protests
to when people have been brutalized by police officers, and
we are well aware you have actually accomplished that. There
has to be a next step to it. By my estimation,

(47:47):
most people now are protesting Donald Trump more so than
their protesting just police brutality alone. Couple of predictions NBA
final Somebody's gonna take a name, gonna happen because the
NBA is now being thrust into this because they have
all offered up their own political discourse. Their own commissioner,

(48:09):
Adam Silver said, don't uh, what is it? Don't just
stick to sports, even though on the books the NBA
has the same policy. This is Steve Kerr at shoot
Around earlier. Today, they're just applying to their fan base
and they're just basically trying to use the anthem as
fake patriotism, nationalism um, scaring people in city outic. But

(48:34):
that's how the NFL has handled their business. I think
our leadership in the NBA understands that when the NFL
players players were kneeling, they were kneeling to protest police brutality,
protest racial inequality. Okay, well, I'm we're all well aware
of it. By the way, mak mudap to our roof

(48:55):
was protesting the same thing. You can say it was
because of his religion. Go back and look at some
of his comments, and this rule was put in place
and he was basically blackballed in the league, traded to
the Sacramento Kings, and out of the league. By the
time he was twenty nine, he still had plenty of
gas in the tank. This happened to Dixie Chicks as
well to Shore. We're aware, right. Dixie Chicks spoke out

(49:18):
at a concert in London during the outbreak of the
Gulf War that George Bush, George W. Bush started and
said that as Texans they were they were embarrassed to
be from the same state as the president. And whether
it's because they're overseas or was it because it was
country music radio? They went from the biggest country music

(49:42):
band too, couldn't hear him on radio? And back then
it really used to matter. So let's not act like
the black balling hasn't happened in the past. It has.
Some of it is the consumer, some of his fear
of a consumer revolt. Some of it is the our
structure of our country. But I'll tell you this, the

(50:07):
NBA is the same policy. And no, I don't know
why there wasn't a media member who who had a
follow up? And why didn't they ask Steve Kerr. You
can say, well, it was collectively bargained upon. It wasn't
addressed in the last collective bargaining agreement. And it's just
so disingenuous, so disingenuous. Two uh for even the the

(50:32):
head of the NBA's Players Association. Because I saw what
she said. Um this is a direct quote. I love this. Um.
So remember Lebron James called Donald Trump a bum. Steph
Curry and the Golden State Warriors chose not to visit,

(50:54):
not to visit the the White House. And what's robert
first name? Who's the head of the NBA p A
Michelle Roberts. In early September, Adam Silver and Roberts Co
signed letter to the players encouraging them to express their
views on social issues. But Michelle Roberts said, I haven't

(51:18):
discussed it with Adam because I haven't needed to. She
told Chris Mannox I was not the executive director when
the mak Mud abdur Rah situation happened. But I'm aware
of the rule, and the players are aware of the rule.
We'll see this is a different commissioner. I disagree with
the view that taking a knee is disrespectful. It is disrespectful.
It's intentionally disrespectful. Like, let's it's intentional disrespect two for

(51:43):
a protest. You can tell me it's not, but it is.
I don't think anybody would argue. I don't think anybody
who I takes a breath, which but for Michelle Roberts
to go like, hey, that was a rule that came
into place before I got here, Like, you just signed
an extension of the c b A. You didn't address it.
It was an over sight. That's what all you have
to say is be a human being, go like, hey,
you know what we totally forgot. We glossed over it.

(52:05):
We just signed the paper because all that was good.
But then it's part of the Collected Art Agreement. It's
iron clad. Now, who knows of Adam Silver actually find somebody.
But I'm gonna just I'll tell you right now, my
guests would be an educated guess whether it's the Warriors

(52:26):
or the Calves. I don't know if any of the
Rockets would. I don't know if any of the Celtics would,
but pretty educated guests, my guess is one of the
one of the Warriors would. And it wouldn't stun me
if it was Steve Kerk would stumm at all. You
know a little something about Steve Kerr. It's not just

(52:48):
and you go, well, it's liberal politics, Like look, his
dad was assassinated while representing our country abroad in Libya
when used in high school. Right, So here's a guy
who knows a thing or too about representing our country
and the ultimate price being paid for representing our country.
I do think it's fascinating though, that the that all

(53:09):
of these societal problems, like look, the NFL has got
plenty of problems. I just I don't know if it's
sustainable to throw guys out there when they're going to
get brain damage, let alone the damage to the rest
of their bodies. They don't know. Plus, it's a sport
that's based that that does have some basis on people
going there and paying these ridiculous personal seat licenses. When

(53:29):
none of us want to go to games anymore. We
can watch them on our big screen TV, and it's
better than sitting in a stadium. Games keep getting longer
with all these replays. The NFL has got problems issues
keeping players healthy in a season. They want to play
more games to make more money, but it's hard to
keep all these quarterbacks healthy, let alone finding quarterbacks are

(53:50):
any good. There's only like ten there any good anyway.
They have problems, but they're catching flak for all these
societal problems that have nothing to do with them. Anyway,
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Was Lebron worn out? Or was he just one out
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(54:33):
And how are the Celtics a completely different team when
they play in the park, I mean completely different. They
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(56:23):
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let's let's get to what we were just talking about
you're listening in on. Okay. The NBA has the same rule,
the same rule. Whereas you want to stay in the
locker room, say locker room, no, actually you can't stand Marco.

(56:46):
You're not supposed to. So you're not supposed to. But
if you're supposed to go to rest room, right, But
if you're supposed to. If you're on the court for
the national anthem, if you're on the court and your
team has to do something universally um, whether it's hand
over your heart, behind your back, whatever it is, you
have to have your uniform on. It has to be
something in unison um. But you have to be a

(57:07):
team in that in that front. Like remember when the
holding of the arms, like you can some people holding arms,
you can't, other people not like you all have to
do it together. But there's no kneeling. No one known
has taken a knee. It hasn't been addressed by Adam
Silver and I think there have been probably been small
conversations and where we say, you know what, that's not
the way we bring attention to this calls. We can

(57:29):
find other ways to do it, because it's it's obviously
being deflected in the right in the wrong manner within
the NFL, because I think right now we're deflecting the
conversation rather than addressing what it's for. We deflected as
disrespect rather than saying, you know, we do have a
real problem in our country. So it's a deflection tactic
rather than like this whole, this whole narrative of disrespecting

(57:53):
when it's a it's an opinion. You may feel disrespectful,
I may not. You have veterans that think it's disrespected.
We have veterans that don't think it's back. People who
want to lie on have different opinions. However, we're not
addressing what it's for, and I think that's where the
frustration stubbornness is come into play by the players. I
completely actually agree with you on that at that point,
I totally agree with you. My thing is, attention has

(58:14):
been brought to this right. Attention has been brought to
brought to police brutality as a huge problem. But but
the NFL hasn't addressed it. And the reason why is
the NFL is supposed to address police brutality. What I'm
saying is the NFL's has never addressed it and said,
you know, our guys are standing for something, but this
is not the right the way they're supposed to do it.
They say, you know, what is disrespectful to the flag,

(58:35):
like they haven't at some point in time. As as humans,
as Americans, we have to Standford what's right sometimes and
and we and the dollar is the dollar is important
in business purposes. But you see businesses Standford what's right,
even when it could cost him a dollar or two,
because at the end of the day, it's the human
thing to do. Okay. So, but but you didn't. There's
two different parts to it. First, we both agree that

(58:58):
none of this gets us to it. But you're like,
I don't understand what the NFL is supposed to do, okay.
And second, the NBA players are supposed to stand, so
it is actually the same rule by by rule, and
they can be fined. Adam Silverston said, whether or not
he will find somebody or won't find somebody, but nobody
has taken taken a knee. I guess the second part

(59:19):
of the issue is you have a problem with me
saying that it's disrespectful. Right. I respect your opinion, whether
you know I don't have a I don't mind you
I don't have a problem with you. I just feel differently,
and and that's fine. I think we're all going to
feel differently in some respect to what the notion is.
But at the end of the day, doesn't matter whether
you agree or disagree with it. What it's for is
why we're doing like, I mean, I agree to a

(59:40):
to a protest like I don't. I mean, I think
that's effective, but you have to understand why the people
are doing it, because they're trying to draw attention to
something that is that's not supposed to be seeing. I
think it's been really effective. I think sometimes you people
get caught up in the semantics. I'm not offended by it,
but I do think it's a sign of disrespect. It's
an intentional sign of disrespect to bring attention to a problem.

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And attention has been brought to a problem. The there's
there's other issues respect for to where a hat during
the national anthem, yes by a fan, yes, is disrespectful
not happy? Hand of your heart? Uh No. The standard
attention is good enough disrepectfact, sitting your seat yes, okay,
but these are all things people do, like don't look
at if you're looking at it when you go to

(01:00:22):
the stadium, people are hats on, sitting standing, Like when
was the last time You're at a game Game three
and four of the East of the Eastern Conference Final,
and during the national anthem, people are sitting. I've seen
people sit like some some majority we're standing, Some were sitting.
Some people chose to do different things. Some people go
to the concession stand when it's playing because they're just

(01:00:43):
like it. This is what it is like. It's not
a pivotal point in the night. If you get what
I'm saying. People say, you know what, I can't wait
till the national anthem starts playing, because that's what I
came for. Now. We came to see this, this this
athletic event, and it's it's it's something that goes on.
People sing. Some people wait to see who's singing it
and who's performing or what have you. But some people
get up and go. Some people like national is coming on,

(01:01:05):
I'm out of here. You know what I'm saying. I
don't know anybody who gets out of there other than
somebody who's like, I want to skip that. I want
to I want to cut the line that time. I
don't think I don't think that's why they do, and
they of the night. I don't think it has anything.
I think the guy who goes the concession line is
the guy who thinks he can get a better is
your spot and concession line, But he's not paying attention
to what you value as being important in the night. Sure,

(01:01:27):
but if you're if you're so, is he disrespectful if
he's trying to be the line at that point in time, well,
if he's walking out when they start singing, then yeah, no. No.
If it's like you know, if he walks out right
before they start saying when you start lining up, he
walks up before he made disrespectful, I'm just just a question.
I'm not saying it's right. But if you're in there,
I mean, like I wouldn't because he chose not to
stay for it because he wanted to get a line.
And I'm not I'm not gonna sit here and tell

(01:01:48):
you that I'm like, I'm like some flag waving super
super patriot. I will tell you that like comes out
at your house you're watching with your kids. Do you
stand up on your living room? Yes, okay, but it
only happens during the Super Bowl or doing and part
of it, sit down and just keep watching the game.
I understand. I understand they do. But I got kids
around him, Like I think I'm supposed to show them

(01:02:09):
to do this because it's out of out of respect
and out of respect for a country. I think is
kind of the general thing. Like, Look, I'm not disputing
at all that there's a problem with police officers. Look,
we also we have a litany of other problems that
kind of go handed man with That's just the one
the athletes chose to just stand up before because it

(01:02:29):
was the most one that resonated in your community and
them as people. And as now we see an athlete
who's dealing with the same type of issue of just
just being he committed he committed an offense, but he's
just like it was no need for the level of aggression.
Who oh dude, that was ridiculous, right, So the whole
thing is ridiculous, right, And and so now now as

(01:02:51):
an athlete, like it doesn't matter, as an African American athlete,
like it doesn't matter just because because I've ran into
two law officers. Who find is that point in time
to like, oh, oh you think you're hot, you have
to de escalate the situation because of who you are
sometimes and because they just feel threatened. I would say

(01:03:14):
that though there's and it's probably not equal numbers, but
as a white guy, I can tell you that there's there,
there are cops that they're just that way with anybody
they're on there. I would agree with you, and and
I and and the hard part that the hard line
to walk. And I think the big thing that got
this off to a bad start was Kaepernick was not

(01:03:35):
somebody who was comfortable being out in front of the
media and commanding the different to make sure that the
protests kind of stayed on point, to stay on focus
about what it was about, right, and it just didn't.
And because he wanted to silently go about his business
and just do it in his own way and then
donate money in his own way. It needed somebody like

(01:03:56):
a Lebron or who's who's better. And and then it
wasn't that he wasn't big enough. It's that he had
the other he had the pig socks, he had the
the castro shirt. But also he's just not somebody who
is comfortable in having a voice more so than in
his actions. It has to be in his words and

(01:04:18):
direct us to how to follow you next, because he
did start a movement that people are still talking about.
Yet you never hear Colin Kaepernick ever. You mean to
tell me, I wouldn't have MoMA radio show in a heartbeat.
He should be on all He had a responsibility to
to voice and and and and speak on this rather
than just I think so and I agree with you.

(01:04:39):
I agree with you. I don't know if we're solving
any of the world's problems. I do want to get
to a bunch of hoops with with Dante Jones the second. First,
let's go to Dan buy Er, find out what else
is going on the little sports you guys are talking to,
or we'll be talking some hoops. Warriors and Rockets playing
some hoops to night, nine o'clock Eastern time. In Game
five of the Western Conference Finals series tied up as
to a peace, Steve Kirk, giving an update earlier today
on the status of Clay thomp said, and andre Iguodala,

(01:05:01):
I believe Clay will play, but we're still listening as questionable.
We've gotta see how he feels in the pregame. And
andre Um again in incremental progress, we'll see game time decision.
He needs more treatment and he'll probably warm up tonight
and we'll see what happens. Best of seven series tied
up at two a piece. Now they'll take on James
Harden and the Rockets. Hardening unanimous selection to the NBA

(01:05:23):
All First The All NBA First Team that is today,
as was Cavaliers forward Lebron James. For Lebron, it's the
twelfth time in his career he was named to the
first team, breaking the market out by Karl Malone and
Kobe Bryant. Anthony Davis, Kevin Duranted, Damian Lillard round out
that first team. Pistons are reportedly targeting former Raptors coach
Dwayne Casey to be their next head coach, while the
Magic are looking for a head coach. The New York

(01:05:44):
Times says they'll interview Steve Clifford for their job, while
the Athletics says the Magic have also have an interest
in Michigan states. Tom is Zoe, finally in baseball, reads
down the Pirates today by account of five to four,
while Mike Trout hit a home run number fifteen on
the season. Angels beat the Blue Jay's eight to one.
Speaking of the Angels, Shohyotani won't pitch Sunday against the Yankees.

(01:06:05):
Skipper Mike socialists the team wants to manage his workload.
Back to you, Doug, Yeah, let's let's manage the workload
of the second best player in baseball. Dante Jones continues
to join us on the Doug Gottlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's up, let's start it at last night.
You know Lebron. You play with Lebron, and last night
was a night to which they just didn't seem to

(01:06:25):
have it. Uh, the lack of use of Kyle Korver
because apparently they liked the chemiosual a matchup when you're
sitting there watching the game and they're not using a
guy who now he's a third league score but it's
coming off a night in which he hit everything and
and probably changed this series for the better for the Calves.
What was your reaction. I didn't understand the strategy of

(01:06:50):
having him only play in the second quarter or not
playing any first quarter minutes, but there's obviously some strategy
behind it, and it didn't work, So I guess we
gotta go back to the drawing board. Um, but you
have to respect the effort that those kids on the
Celtics put out on their home court. They're like, they're
they're amazing at Why are they so much better at home?
I don't That Celtic crowd is is amazing. Number one,

(01:07:13):
it's in the top five of best arenas in best
crowds and best fan bases in the NBA. But they
just have so much more confidence and you and there.
Even the shots they take early on are just different
with their their home crowd behind them. So um. Officiating,
officiating I think plays apart um, I don't think. I
don't think so in that capacity. I think they just
they're just more confident. Marcus smarts knocking threes down in

(01:07:36):
in in a great capacity there and not in Cleveland.
Like it has nothing to do it officiating. I think
it's still gonna be a tough game. Defensively, they give
the effort, but officially they're more confidence. They play at
a different pace when they're at home. All right, So
what about Lebron At some point he did whether he's
playing to the camera or he was exhausted, you know,

(01:07:56):
he had that he had look on his eyes. On
the other hand, we saw this in game one a
little bit to where I don't know if he was
just you know, conserving himself for game two. What do
you think what's going on? He's been saying he's like
extremely tired after these games and the outputs he had
to put on, so he's this is not something that's
been even in the last game when when when they won,
he said, there's nobody more tired than me right now

(01:08:17):
after this game. Um, but even the first you look
at the first quarter. So he just didn't have it.
And as an athlete, you can say some nights like
you just don't have it like consistent. We think he's
a robot, we think he's like he's he's Superman. But
he had twenty six and ten and he looked bad.
And that's that's crazy right now, Like we're acting like
he had the worst game ever. But he looked exhausted.

(01:08:38):
He looked like he looked you see it in his face.
He looked dehydrated. He looked like all these things that
happened to athletes when you think you're fine and then
all of a sudden you just feel like crap and
and and it sucks. There used to be a uh
I like love this video r C U R R
C cart though it was um. Remember they used to
it was like like a little radio could introll cart

(01:09:00):
and you have the nut. You can hit the nitris
right or in in any of the NFL live games whatever.
In terms of hitting the turbo, sometimes you go to
hit the turbo button and you got no no turbo there,
and it's not there, and that how hard is it
to get it back when you only have one day
off in between these next two. Um, it's just like
some days, you just it's just some somebodays. We just
have bad days. Some days our body just feels bad

(01:09:22):
as we get older, like you just feel terrible and
you have to fix it by diet, sleep, whatever you
can do in these next couple of hours. But it's
just something he's gonna have to try and try and fix.
Do you think they win the series? I think they
win the series. I I've said this, it's gonna be
a seven game series. I think they're gonna win tomorrow

(01:09:46):
and I look forward to a historic performance in Boston Garden.
Like with his back against the wall, I think he
operates the best with his back against the wall. UM,
and I have faith in that I think we have
two commodities, proven commodities in the NBA right now, the
Golden State Warriors and Lebron James I like, and what
I bet against either one of those two? No, yeah,

(01:10:06):
I I tend to think that he wasn't feeling great. Uh,
And there was a certain level of conservation and there
is the knowledge he still has, whether it's confidence or arrogance,
the same thing as the Warriors, that he knows Game
seven in Boston. I've done this. I've literally done this before.
Other people can say confidence, but he is a confidence
in a track record to say, you know what, Okay,
I can scratch that throw out aside, and I've done

(01:10:28):
this before and I can do it again because I
am the greatest in the game. Right It is a dangerous,
dangerous game to play. All right, Let's get to the Warriors,
who it looks like they're gonna have Clay. I think
they'll have a Guadala, but we don't know how important
is I Guadala from your perspective. That's a dangerous one
right there, because what makes them specials they have They
have multiple elite defenders. They have Draymond, they have um Clay,

(01:10:50):
they have Andre and Sean Livios and at points and
times can do that. Um. But then when you take
him away, you take their best defender away. The quarterback.
He's a playmaker. Um, he's probably the smartest. He's always
in the right spot because it's the most intelligent. And
you can tell that, like he's all about winning because
he's a max player that took a demotion to the

(01:11:11):
bench and doesn't care about the stat alive. He just
wants to win. And that is what makes that team
special because you have a max player to say, you know,
I go to the bench and I just do whatever
you want to. If you're gonna be every six and five,
I will just just just to win a championship and
going to Hall of Fame like that, I'm fine with that.
Um Okay, I don't think Adreadallas going Hall of Fame.
When when Junior a champion, you're going to You're going

(01:11:32):
to You're going to the Hall of Fame, your finals,
m v P, You're going you. It may take a
couple of ballots, but I love you. I don't think
he's going on of Dante Jones joining us in the
Doug guy, you're in the Hall of fame already as
a champion, though, like you're Hall of Fame, yeah, but
you get introduced as a Hall of Famer, you get
voted as a Hall of Famer, like I I think
Draymond's going in because how many you know, how many

(01:11:58):
are not in the Hall of Fame. That's a that's
a if you like that, we'll have Ryan Music pull
up there that out. But but finals m vps don't
aren't necessarily things that h He'll be very close. He'll
probably get in there. But he was also multi time
All Star, which I'd like to see. Iguadala, who previously
in his career average over twenty a game but now

(01:12:20):
is so here. Here's what I think Iguidala's okay. You
know when you have a you know when you have
like a quartet and you have the one guy who's
the bass guy that right, like that guy right, like
you always go like, hey, anybody can do that, anybody
can do it, and then all of a sudden they
switch bass guys and he doesn't know quite the moves

(01:12:40):
like everybody else the base. That's what like, Look, I
think Jordan Bell eventually is gonna be a good, really
good player. I think he won't. No, no, I'm saying,
but remember we're talking Andrego Dolla now in his mid
thirties as opposed. He'll never be Andreagodala in his twenties.
But he could very easily be a Clint Capella type eventually.
That's the type of player that he'll be. Six ft eight,
can guard a bunch of positions there, but that's fine.

(01:13:05):
What six ten eleven. The point is as a ring protector,
a guy who can switch on the defense, rebound with
great energy. I think he's gonna be a really good player.
I think Kavon Luney's gonna be a really good player.
But at this point in time, when they're out there
in a big situation, they're like a little bit off
there in the wrong player, Like wait, where am I
supposed to be? This is not and they're just a
little bit off if they have Iguadala. Even though Iguodala

(01:13:28):
is the fifth most important terms of scoring offensive player, right,
but he does so many things that you can't quantify,
whether it be scoring, defense, playmaking. He's he's he's their
quarterback with Draymond and making plays to get guys in
the right sets, um and keeping keeping heads cool as
you see what um with Steve Kerr said about him,
like he's he's a valuable part of that team because

(01:13:48):
they are ultimately a team. They're collective of very good
players that work well together and make up for you
for each other's inefficiencies. Okay, are they in trouble if
he doesn't play, their in trouble. But it's hard to
bet against him when when he's on it, when he's available,
when they have a full roster, it's hard to bet
against them. Why do you think because he with with

(01:14:09):
the exception of game was Game three and then that
five minute stretching Game four. Uh, Steph has looked He
hasn't looked like an all NBA guy. He's looked like
a guy who takes a lot of shots. Why that's
what he does. He takes shots? Like what do you

(01:14:30):
depend on Steff Curry to do it? In the day?
You pend on him to make shots and take shots.
You don't depend on him to make place for other people.
He just has shooters around him. No, I I totally
and I completely understand that. I'm saying though that the
that the percentages are way down again if you take
out those stretches. They are games that he has to
play defense Conference finals. He he struggles when when when

(01:14:51):
he's being his confidence lie. It's looking like his confidence
lies in his ability to to just just to be
comfortable up there. And when people are attacking you every
play looking for your switch, making you work on the
defensive end, it takes away from his personal confidence, which
is helped hurts the shooting confidence. So with Igodala out there,

(01:15:13):
like their whole thing is they're trying to find the
right matchup and the switching and all that, and well,
looking at him like now I don't want him. I
don't want him. Oh yeah, I want him, And it's
just it's just harder. It's hard with him not being there.
Is it's easier to get to match up that you
want in the favorable matchup and you go one on
one with and and you can create something. But by
the way, I'm gonna I'm gonna win the DeAndre Goodala

(01:15:35):
finals MVP debate real quick? Why was he the finals MVP?
Because he actually did something offensive end too, and because
they didn't guard him. They remembered in that finals they
didn't got guard him. They left him wide open and
he made them pay right, And that's hard to do
well when you're no no, no, because shooting confidence. Because
because they left Harrison Barnes and he didn't do it,

(01:15:55):
I understand it's hard to do be being left open
is probably the worst one you want to be because
there's a lot of pressure. One. I'd rather have somebody
running at me than leave me squide open. My my
point is that I don't think anyone would argue he
was even the best player in that series. He just
simply scored a bunch of points in because he scored
a whole bunch, did a great job. But also Lebron

(01:16:16):
probably should have been the MVP, considering he was playing
without he was playing with that Kyrie. What numbers in
that series? Not great? Okay, not great, but they played
a depleted Calves team and so it was like an ensemble,
which I haven't I have a whole opinion on that
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the NBA one NBA Championship with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He

(01:17:19):
joins us in studio, all right, so, uh we want
to start Calves go. So I don't agree with people saying,
you know what, the Calves won the championship because Draymond
didn't play, or because they had injuries because Bog went
down and people weren't fully healthy. But then they give

(01:17:41):
the Warriors the credit for winning it the first year
they wanted when Kevin Love and Kiri didn't play, didn't
have a full roster. Well, I don't know, but I
just don't know who you're reacting to, because like the
sense of media, the media is but who what what media?
I mean, I don't do the media because I'm in
the media. Public perception they have they earned THEIRS, but
the Calves did not earn THEIRS. That's that's that's that's well, look,

(01:18:04):
I think there's but if you remember when the Warriors
first won their title, a lot of people I thought
there actually was Remember Steve Kirrven said, we were we
were fortunate, we were lucky that they played the was
the Hornets, then the Pelicans, now the Hornets and Drew
didn't play the first two games they played, they played

(01:18:25):
Grizzlies mikek and they didn't play. And then they never
played the Clippers of the Spurs that year because the
Clippers beat the Spurs, and then the Rockets beat the
beat the Clippers, and then and then they played the
Rockets at pep Everley, and then after game one didn't
have Kyrie, never had Kevin Love. So I disagree with
you in terms I think was there an asterisk by it, like, yeah, look,

(01:18:45):
this is what's happened in so many championships in the past,
always a big just so much is how good you are?
Larry Bird. Larry Bird's back cost the Celtics title. Uh
Byron Scott was hurt one year that hurt the Lakers,
even when the Lakers last repeat ended. Um, Yes, Kobe
and Shack refuting, but car Malone got hurt and Rick

(01:19:05):
Fox got hurt right, and and of course the Pistons
beat him. So it has last luck coaching and players.
They all have to aligne like the stars have to
aligne for you to win a championship. Is just not
total dominance and you just like people, it's a long season.
So health is a is a is a part of
your championship properly characterized From an NBA veterans mind, what

(01:19:27):
we should see when we see the Golden State Warriors.
What we should see well, like like I've heard, is
this the greatest team of all time? Is this? When
you see them? What's them as a collective? And I
see them as like they have a bunch of important pieces,
like when people say, you know, Steph is STFs not
their best player, but he does his job. He he

(01:19:50):
creates spacing for the other parts of their team. Clay
is one of the best. They have the top three
shooters in the game. Katie's the bet, one of the
top two score because of Kyrie is around Like you
can debate that, but he's seven feet tall. He can
get to a spot. He can score them on basically anybody. Um.
So they have spot up shooters, the tough shot makers,

(01:20:13):
hybrid hybrid defensive players as well. They have multiple defenders.
They also a very backup point. They're also very bright.
They also have guys that are collectively like Steve helped
them become bright because Steve Kirk plays an integral part
in there, because they have great coaching, because his system
and how he got step off the ball and put
him into just a mover and where he moves without

(01:20:36):
the ball now right, and just put him in traditional
point guard space where he just has to umi a
roll and make places where but that's not what he does.
He's a nightmare off the ball, the way he cuts
and moves and keeps and you always have to be
focused to wards. And see, that's actually one of the
best points I've ever heard made that I've never heard
anyone say. Right, It's like the genius to Phil Jackson

(01:20:56):
wasn't just the triangle offense. It was that he got
people in perfect trying it goes perfect spacing so that
Mike could be Mike, and then he convinced Michael Jordan's
when the double team comes, I'm gonna get the right
teammates in the right spot. You get it to him
and they'll make shots and ended up working. And what
you're saying is hey, Steve Kerr was the first guy
to tell Steph like, stop trying to prove your point guard.

(01:21:16):
Just be just Stef Curry, which sometimes you handle it,
sometimes you move and it's been the greatest shooter of
all time, and you can beat that and you can
make it a nightmare for people to guard everybody else
because we have specialists. You like me understand how important
confidence is. K D. Something weird happened the fourth quarter
where he took two terrible shots and then last possession
he didn't even look at the basket. He just he quit,

(01:21:37):
kind of kind of hot pitated it to Clay Thompson.
How hard is it for a guy of his stature
to flip it in one game? To go from terrible
fourth quarter everybody's talking about you turning down a shot
to Okay, I gotta get back to being k D.
It's all learning comparance. Each game is a learning experience.
You gramp different things from each game in the course
of the series. I think he hindsight is always twenty twenty.

(01:21:58):
He's aware of that right now. But in that instance,
in that quick instance, he was forced to be a playmaker,
and that's not what he does. He's a score He's
a flat out scorer. Hed he finds his spot, he
gets it done. He scores over anybody. At that point
in time. He tried to make the right play. And
that's just that's not the best of his skill set. Yeah,
when people say just be you, be you, that that
isn't He was supposed to get a shot up. He's

(01:22:20):
supposed to get the best shot and get to a
spot and rise. And the only thing I can think
of is he overreacted to how bad, how atrocious those
previous two shots where that he took and tried to
get somebody else to look Dante Jones great stuff, man.
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(01:22:45):
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and I kind of bought into the home court advantage.
Not that big a deal. Not that big a deal,
you know why, because home court advantage basically comes down this,
All I gotta do is win one game on your court,
then I got home court advantage. We saw the Warriors
dispatch up home court advantage like that, And the Warriors
hadn't lost at home in the playoffs since they got

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Kevin Durant until Game four, of course, change that. And
so when we got ready for the playoffs, so many
of us who watched love cover the league. We kind
of bought into the whole idea of, ah, what does
it really matter? Is the court still ft longh? Yes

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it is? Is it still fifty ft wide? Why? Yes
it is. Do they play with the basketball that's inflated
between seven and nine pounds? What? Yes they do? Is
that a Spalding basketball? Are the hoops ten ft? Yes?
They are? Well, what's the difference really? Right? We've seen
Lebron win championships on the road. We saw the Warriors

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win a championship on the road. We saw the Calves
win a championship on the road. We've seen all these teams,
we you name it. We've seen teams win on the road.
This is not that it's not the bigger thing. But
have you seen the home road split in the Celtics
Cavs series? Have you seen them? I mean it's really

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kind of remarkable. I mean kind of remarkable. It's it's
in the idea of day and night, it's actually day
and night. That's exactly what it is. Um, the Boston
Celtics at home versus the Boston Celtics on the road

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in the playoffs is about as starker contrast as you're
gonna find it really is, and um, the home road
spits are just stunning. Talking about ten points different, ten
percentage points different. It's crazy. And so when you watch
the Celtics, they didn't just beat they humiliated the Calves

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in two of the three games, and the other game,
game two, Lebron James would not have been better in
the first quarter, one points, forty two points overall, and
the Celtics still ran away and hit with it at
the end of the game. So we sit, We sat
at the start of the season and even the start

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of the playoffs and thought, man, I'll tell you what,
the the Boston Celtics home court advantage doesn't matter in
the playoffs. And now you sit there and go, yeah,
I guess it kind of does, all right. So here's

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what they got on the road on the road in
the postseason. Here's the Boston Celtics splits right on the road.
Let's keep switching back and forth on me. It's really crazy.
On the road, they average point four points a game

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on the road field goal percentage wise, from three they
shoot thirty from h field goal percentage they shoot. That's crazy.
So if you shoot forty one and thirty on the road,
and you average ninety four point four points a game

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on the road, what do you think you shoot at home?
The home numbers are stark in contrast, especially in the postseason.
They played ten home games. They average a hundred and
nine points at home. That's a fifteen point difference from three.
They shoot thirty eight. That's seven half percentage points difference

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from two. They shoot forty six. That's a six percentage
point difference. Forget about the fact their defensive numbers are
all better as well. Fifteen point better at home. You
can tell me all you want, and I even bought
into it that home road doesn't matter in the NBA
playoffs because Lebron's one in Boston Garden a million times.

(01:28:06):
What's a million or one? But if you watch this series,
if you watch the whole playoffs, and if you watched
last night, you start to feel like remember that week
that you decided to take off in the middle of
the semester, Like, ah, it's just a week. And as

(01:28:27):
long as I'm back to study for the final, I'm good.
I miss a couple of lectures, what could I possibly miss? Right,
kept up with the syllabus, kept up with the reading.
I'm fine. Then you get to the final and you
realize there's a big chunk of the final that's based
upon that week or week and a half when you
came back from that week off. Now you're playing catch
up and you're not as attemptive, playing as much attention

(01:28:49):
to the week that you were in school after you
out of school for a week. It does matter, and
it feels like the Celtics Calves home court advantage could
ultimately be the difference. Do I think that? Is it
beyond Lebron James to go in and put some herculean
effort in Game seven now, And I don't think it's
crazy to think that he didn't have it last night.

(01:29:11):
He knew he didn't have it last night. I knew
his team didn't have it last night. And he's saving
up and resting for these two games. But he saved
up in game one for game two. Game two, he
gave him everything he had and one enough. It wasn't
close enough. He had forty two points, it was not enough.

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He had twenty one the first quarter. It was not enough.
So it doesn't mean that history will absolutely repeat that game.
But I I do think this idea that home court
advantage is. That's like the guy that says age is
just a number. You heard that age just a number. Yeah, okay,

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But once you get to forty, they start poking in
a place you only poked at every time you go
to a doctor. Kay, age is more than just a number.
When you get to fifty, you like your body starts
to change. When she gets to sixty, like, things start
to They're not as easy as they used to be.
He gave it everything he had. He he had forty two.
He had twelve assists and ten rebounds, made five eleven

(01:30:19):
from three, sixty nine from the floor, and they lost
by why because they played the Celtics on the road
and the Celtics at home average fifteen points more per game,
shoot six percentage points higher from the field eight percentage
points higher from three, are far more efficient and frankly

(01:30:42):
better at both ends of the floor. So we can
sit here and buy into this whole home rund doesn't matter.
But so far in the playoffs, through ten games at
home and nine on the road for the Celtics, absolutely matters,
Absolutely matters. Um. Then there was that weird thing that

(01:31:04):
we're we're Kyl Corver didn't play in the first quarter.
Remember Kyl Corver's coming off arguably his best playoff performance
he had ever had. Corver only played nineteen minutes, had
seven points. Now, there's one of two possible conclusions you
can bring from this. Against the Boston Celtics in Game four,

(01:31:28):
he had fourteen points on just seven shots, made four
free throws, he made one off drible and had three
block shots. And I would sit here and go like, look,
when you're thirty seven years old, sometimes you don't have
it that next game, right, you extended you expent so
much energy. Twenty five minutes is a lot that maybe
he didn't have it. Take a listen to why Tyron

(01:31:50):
Lou said he didn't play Kyl Corver in the first quarter.
Initially he's been putting all of j in so that's
been kind of calls matchup when he comes in the game.
When he didn't play him tonight, so you know, kinda
through uswore loop. But we got brought out with two
and a half minutes and I started a fourth he
wasn't ready to go. So the same thing happened game
I think one or two, I can't remember. Yeah, So

(01:32:10):
what he's saying is like, look the only place we
can stick him on the floor defensively is when Chemi
Ojala is in the game. He didn't come into game.
We didn't feel comfortable putting him out there, I mean outlook,
it's explained to us this is how we're able to
hide Kyle korver right. We're only able to hide him
when you get a guy that we think he can
stand next to you and do a good enough job on.

(01:32:31):
And so while we all talk about Brad Stevens and
adjustments and pace and running things, the truth is he
made an adjustment in personnel stuck with two big guys,
That's why they rebounded better and it kept Kyle corn
Rock the floor. Stay tuned for or game six to
see what additional adjustments are made to kind of counteract that.
From Tyron Loop. By the way, here's Lebron James on

(01:32:55):
how tired he was. Oh my, my moments, but I
think everybody at this point it's tired corn On or
whatever case may be. But I'm still trying to make
plays to help our team win, put us in position
to win. And uh, we had moments, we had an opportunity,
but we didn't um we didn't make enough place mhm
um m hm. So look I I it's my belief

(01:33:17):
that Lebron is not making an excuse, he's simply being honest.
You know, he didn't say I was tired that's why
we lost? Is that have my moments? We didn't make plays?
And I think it's believable enough. You don't have to
be the most ardent Lebron James fan to buy that,
Nor do you have to be a Lebron like you're

(01:33:39):
a Lebron James hater. If you go like, no, no, no,
he's got to be great everything he can't. No human
being is perfect and feels perfect every game. I guess
the only question is did he played up more because
he was on camera? And to that, only Lebron James
actually knows. If you're checking in line comes on coming

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Kerr moving uh, Steph Curry off the ball is something
that no NBA guy has said previously, even though those

(01:34:23):
of us who watched the NBA know it to be
accurate or believe it to be accurate. But I also
don't buy the idea that people in the arena during
the national anthem, we're not standing good attention? Ramos was
the last time here the game a basketball game, NBA,
just a game in general, any game U last year?

(01:34:43):
How many people stood up in this stood up and
took their hats off when national anthem's even played? I did,
I'm guessing around me, everybody did. I really didn't look,
but the people that I saw just talking to Lucas
and look into my left and right. Everybody was up
that was around me. Music you. The last event I
went to was an Angel game on Mother's Day, so

(01:35:05):
it was a couple of weeks ago. I was actually
waiting to still get into the stadium, so I don't
know exactly standing um. I would say ninety five percent
of the people were all, you know, standing at what
was supposed to be attention towards where the flag was
supposed to be. But there were a few people who
didn't take their hats off. Okay, I've actually been in

(01:35:27):
the concourse or in the national anthem and people have stopped.
People have stopped. You know, if it's on like the
screen and they show the flag, then you just kind
of you kind of stopped. The point was only in
that like, look, you stand out of respect, and we
kind of gotten a little bit of a semantic discussion
as to I do think it's disrespectful. I think it's
intentionally so to draw attention to the protest, but just

(01:35:53):
stand out of respect. Jason Whitlock joins the show. I'll
ask him his thoughts on the new national anthem policy
in the National Football League. Of course, the juxtaposition of
the NFL getting slaughtered today because of a rule that
really mirrors the same rule in the NBA. Who's getting

(01:36:13):
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Jason Winlock has been a calmness and a TV star.
As on radio show, he's basically done it all. You
can see him on First Things First on Fox Sports One,
as well as at times on on a litany of
news shows who like his opinions balm on Twitter as well.
Jaesson Whitlock joins us on the Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio, What's Up. My show is called

(01:37:02):
Speak for Yourself, and I said, First Things First, I'm
sorry it was on in front of me that that's
my bad speak for yourself. I can't believe I did that?
Did you dump that? Ramos? Did you? Did you? Let's see,
this is what we do. We don't dumb it now.
Now I think it's too late. I think you're too late.
That's that's what happens. I apologize to you Speak for
Yourself as a show that's on. I'm so confused because

(01:37:23):
when we're on, it's on at the exact same time. Anyway, Um,
Jason Whitlock joins us. I'll try and redo that one.
So all right, here we go three to one. Jason
Whitlock from Speak for Yourself joins us, in the Dug
Outlip Show when when you heard the new NFL policy
on the national anthem, what was your reaction. I think

(01:37:46):
my initial reaction was it's a step in the right direction,
and I have step in the wrong direction. I think
it tries to please everyone, and I don't think this
is a six wation where you can please everyone. I
think the NFL should have chosen just to purely please

(01:38:09):
it's fan base, and the fan base is bothered by
the national anthem protests. It's it's not good television. It's
not good for television ratings. It brings a conversation into
game day that's not good for football. And so I
wanted the NFL to do with David Stern did when

(01:38:31):
he was faced with this issue two decades ago, with
my move abdu raove and you just pass the rule. Hey,
you gotta stand for the national anthem. I felt like
they had two options. They could have said, Okay, we're
just gonna take our players off the field during the
national anthem, everybody's staying in the locker room. Or and

(01:38:52):
this is probably option I would have preferred. I was
you come out and you stand for the national anthem.
If you choose to protest you don't play period um
and you can't play you don't play period that. Yeah,
but that one seemed that you know that, that one
seems more challenging to get through than what they did.

(01:39:12):
I will tell you this, I like you, like any
human being bothered by what happened to Sterling Brown. I
think they ran into a lot of bad luck with
the announcement just the day the video, the Sterling Brown video,
it becomes public right like seventy two hours beforehand that
they were releasing the Sterling Brown video Wednesday. So it

(01:39:36):
wasn't by surprise. It didn't drop. It's not an album
that was dropped by surprise. That was they told the
Milwaukee Police said we're releasing this on Wednesday, earlier in
the week. Uh. But again, this just goes back, Hey,
sometimes does this really tough decisions to make in all
the walks of life, but particularly in sports, and particularly

(01:39:59):
in these lyrically charged times. And and David Stern made
the right call with the NBA years ago, and it
hasn't been a problem. And now everyone's reacting like the
NBA doesn't have a harsher rule or the same rule
as the NFL does. Now no one's talking about that.

(01:40:19):
I find like Steve Kerr's comments today preposterous, well even
even worse way, but even worse people in our profession.
Nobody challenged him on it. And and for people who
want to know what Steve Kerr said, let me play
for This is Steve Kerr after they shoot around today
offering his opinion on the NFL's new UH policy. They're

(01:40:40):
just applying to their fan base and they're just basically
trying to use the anthem as fake patriotism, nationalism um
scaring people in city outic. But that's how the NFL
has handled their business. I think our leadership in the
NBA understands that when the NFL player renewing, they were

(01:41:01):
akneeling to protest police brutality, protest racial inequality. Go on
about Steve Kerr. Look, I I don't know if Steve
Kerr had to Was he in Chicago with Craig Hodges.
I think he was in the league when Chris Jackson,
my mood abdul Rauf was in the league, the NBA.

(01:41:24):
Everything he just said applies to the NBA and all
of sports have attached themselves to patriotism as a way
to market themselves and as a way to to to
attach sports to the best ideals of Americana. This is
not This is pervasive throughout all of sports. Sporting events

(01:41:47):
are the only place where we play the national anthem.
So this isn't something brand new, and so it's a
read and in a league that one of their play years.
Yesterday they released the video of one of their players
being abused by the police. Why isn't Steve Kerr leading

(01:42:09):
the Golden State Warriors and taking a knee tonight and
asking all of the NBA to take a knee. Why
is he not doing that? Why is he taking pot
shots at football? It's it's repulsive and embarrassing to me.
I don't get it. I'm trying to as well. I asked.

(01:42:30):
I've asked NBA people in they c well, it's a
completely different relationship with the commissioner like that. That's that
that's a cop out statement, right, It's the same rule.
They haven't challenged the rule, and yet they're questioning the
NFL for instituting a rule that like Adam Silver has
been the commissioner of the NBA for seventy years, the

(01:42:53):
guy is two or three years into his job, and yes,
he's as soft as butter and the of he's intimidated
by the players, and he's best friends with the players.
Let's see how long that leadership style actually works. And last,
he's presiding over a league that can't put on competitive

(01:43:14):
games at playoff time right now. But no one in
the media will talk about this in a real way
and ask questions about why is that? Is there something
wrong with the rules, Have we gone three or three
point addictive? Had the players made so much money that
they're just not as competitive when facebood adversity. None of
this gets addressed because we're all caught up in this

(01:43:36):
attack on football, which is unfair out of context, put
a lie that this whole notion that NFL ownership is
just blatantly patently racist. They've constructed a league that has
seventies seventy black employees making a ton of money, a

(01:44:00):
ton of money and touches. No industry has created more
black millionaires than football in the NFL, and we're attacking
it as racist. This is reading over Colin Kaepernick. It's
it's ridiculous. Colin Kaepernick and a lot of these football

(01:44:21):
players have to understand they were working on a television show.
That's what the NFL is, that's what the NBA is,
that's what Basic League Baseball is. Television shows have scripts,
and they have producers, and when that television show starts
with the national anthem, it's all scripted and it's and
the reason why they're making so much money is because

(01:44:44):
of what Steve Kerr has identified as fake patriotism, which
is actually brilliant marketing and has allowed these guys to
make a tough generational wealth, help their families, pull themselves
out of poverty, all kinds of You don't attack in
the industry like that. You help it get better, but
you don't attack it and try to bring it down.

(01:45:05):
You don't paint those people as racist. All right, So, Jason,
a black listener might listen to you and say, you
know you work for Fox, you're just selling out. What
would your response, I would say, I'm speaking the truth.
I'm a black person who senior year in high school,

(01:45:25):
Me and my father lived in a one bedroom for
her to square foot apartment in the hood of Indianapolis,
and football came and got me and put me on
a college campus and change my life and the life
of my family. I never got a whiff of the NFL.
But but I'm just speaking a truth, a factual truth

(01:45:47):
that you have been hoodwinked and bamboozled into believing football
in the NFL is some sort of racist industry against
the black man. If you would apply the same standards
to Hollywood, where a black man and a black woman
can barely get a job, can can't make the kind
of money you can make in the NFL, seventy sev

(01:46:08):
of their employees aren't black. You won't attack that, and
that's run by liberals, But you attack football because you
think it's run by conservatives who are biggest, who have
created an industry that's better for black men than anything
the other the other group, the liberal side, says they've
created for the black man. You've been led us straight

(01:46:29):
hood wing bamboos or whatever. You're just wrong. Jason wentlike
johniuson doug out your hold on with I want to
get a quick updated what's going on the world of sports.
Then get to what we saw last night, or you
think we'll see tonight in the NBA, here's Dan Buyers tonight.
In the NBA, it's the Warriors and Rockets for Game five,
nine o'clock Eastern Time Series tired at to Clay Thompson
expected to go for the Warriors, still gonna have to

(01:46:50):
go through pregame warm ups, though with that knee strain.
Andre IgA Dolla also questionable for the game. Steve Kirk
calls him more likely a game time decision with a
knee contusion. All NBA teams announced today, and for the
twelfth time in his career, Lebron James name to the
first team, breaking a mark set by Karl Malone and
Kobe Bryant. Lebron was a unanimous pick, as was Rockets

(01:47:11):
guard James Harden. Other players on the first team include
Warriors forward Kevin Durant, Pelicans forward Anthony Davis, and Blazer's
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(01:47:34):
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zone Auto Zone. Jason Whitlock from Speak for Yourself joins
us on the Doug Gottliep Show. All so, a talented
calumnist as you read, and you can see him as
a sports personality. Uh and and uh uh just a
personality on plenty of news shows throughout the year. He
joins us year on the Doug Gotlip Show. All right,
let's get to last night. What's your take on Lebron

(01:48:17):
suddenly tired, suddenly worn down mid series shop the hell
out of every listen. Lebron's a weird duck man. We
we've seen strange things from him when he was in Miami,
the meltdown against Dallas previous uh stint in Cleveland, the

(01:48:38):
meltdown against the Boston Celtics, and last night we saw
another clunker of a game that you know, I just
think is a part of Lebron's issues, perhaps with anxiety
or who knows what, Maybe he just when I'm kicked
it last the night before. I don't know, but we've

(01:49:00):
seen it before where Lebron will have these games that
are impossible to understand, it impossible to explain. Do you
think he can still win the series? Yeah? I never
ever ever count Lebron James out of anything. He was
down three one to the Golden State Warriors, came back
and one that championship for Cleveland. Never count him out.

(01:49:22):
I I fully expect him to win the next two games.
But you know, I know there are other people out
there to think, Look, this is the process of Lebron
exiting from Cleveland and he's you know, backing off. But
I just don't see it. I never count him out.
I expect this series to go seven and I expect
him to figure out how to win it all. What
about the Warriors? Suddenly they looked human, They look fallible.

(01:49:47):
You don't think they look hum No, I think they
missed Andre Equadala and Kevin Durant had a bad fourth quarter.
I think that's all that happened last game. I think
Golden State is gonna handle their business today. Is you
give me fast aim to see? I man, I don't know.
I mean, I don't think anything happened. I think James
Harden had a good first half. Christ Paul had a

(01:50:08):
good second half. The rest of that Calf I didn't
see anything that I think it's transferable to the night
that makes me think, oh my god, you know if
If Capella or Eric Gordon or p J. Tucker. I
didn't see anything from the supporting cast. I saw good
halves by both guards, and I saw Kevin Durant have

(01:50:28):
a bad fourth quarter and Noandre Guadala. I agree with
you on both. But I also there was a sense
of panic from the Warriors for a team that's won
a championship, team that is made up of guys that
have competed in three championships. You know, some of them
have won two championships. They're they're just there wasn't an
ease by which they handled the Rockets, And I think

(01:50:51):
it goodall is a big part of it. He's an
underrated valuable commodity, especially when you had a Jordan Bell
or Kevon Looney kind of he's out the charts in
terms of brilliance. Even if he can't shoot, he's always
in the right place at the right time, and he's
a tremendous defender. That said, like Steph, Steph Clay, and

(01:51:11):
Kevin Durant, they all panic. They all took terrible shots
and look completely out of sorts. All true, all fixable,
and I just think I just didn't see enough from
Houston that makes me think, oh, they got it. I
saw Houston Chris Paul make a free throw when he shouldn't,

(01:51:35):
and then I Steph Curry get a wide open shot
with a half second left. So I just saw all
the things about Houston and Mike D'Antoni that they did
dumb stuff too. They just got away with it for
at night. It's a great point. I still can you
figure out why they made that free throw? No, just
they're not well coast and they're just it starts from

(01:51:57):
the top, my dame talking. Someone was there a huddle
before he took the second shot? Did anyone think you know?
Because don't players gather up and any look over to
the sideline and get to my shot, I make or miss.
Chris Paul just decided he's gonna make the free throw
because he was frustrated he missed the first one and
it just wasn't far through. Um, do you enjoy watching

(01:52:20):
James Harden play? Now? I really don't enjoy watching Houston
play that much. Just there's just not enough ball or
man movement. I don't like the icehole style of play. Uh,
and no, I'm not James Harden is not fun basketball
in comparison to Steph Curry or Clay Thompson or Lebron

(01:52:41):
or Kevi k d that He's just not fun to watch.
Great stuff, man, let's talk to you, Okay, all right,
thank you? All right. Jason Whitlock, how do they screw
that thing up? I got the wrong show. I think
it's I think you're right. It kind of was up
on the TV and you looked up and it just
that just went into your head. Yeah that happens. Yeah, yeah,
bad one. Okay, I know he's not had Like, Yo,

(01:53:04):
you've been on my show, you dope? Like, yeah, my bad. Sorry,
I don't even know what I was done. I lost
my I lost my mind for a second. There it happens. Um,
it definitely happens. Doug out The Show, Fox Sports Radio.
I feel completely better. I feel like there was a
therapy session with Jason. No, nothing happened. I know they
freaked out and panicked that you're you're right it Just

(01:53:26):
remember Houston made a free through they shouldn't make, and
Steph Curry was still wide open. He's right, right, that's
process versus result, Like we're reacting to the result when
the processes. Golden State probably still should have won that game.
Even though Steph was bad after you know, getting hot,
and Katie took a couple of terrible shots and Clay
was a no show. They still gotta stop when they

(01:53:49):
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the press, damn buy what he got. Let's start out
on the diamond. It's lifted high and it's hit deep
out into left center field and up against the wall.
Trying to catch that one and unable to do so.

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Home run for Mike Trout is the season. Put some
one backup Mookie Bets for the league lead in the
m American League Angels Radio Network is the Halos getting
eight one win over the Jay's Albert Poolholes hit home
run number seven for him on the season. He is
having an amazing season. Mike Troud is having an amazing season. Uh,

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last night he was on base. I think he was
at bat four total times. He's on base like four
of the times, and he's on base at the time,
taking a lot more walks. Also a better defensive player
than Mookie Betts. Bets is having an amazing year with
the bat, but Mike Trout tracking him down with fewer
at bats because he's taking more pitches and taking more walks.
I've said it before. I've said I don't think the

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Angels the best team. I think this actually is a um.
The rest of their team is offensively bad. In comparison,
they got two best players in the game. A panel
studying the current day baseball says the aerodynamics of the
baseball have changed since causing the ball to carry further
and on the ten member panel claims that the way

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batter swing has nothing to do doug with the increase
in the number of runs. It's the aerodynamics of the baseball.
Why they have changed or why that has changed, they
don't know. I think the ball has changed. I think
the swing has changed. I also think that there's more
power pitching. Uh. Someone's told to me by Major League

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hitting pitching coach, was you know there there didn't used
used to have big dudes and they would all be
first baseman catchers or first baseman catchers are A lot
of them are smaller now, but a lot of big
guys are in fact power pitchers, and the power creates
this exit vlow which is off the charts is gone.
I thought this was interesting and a piece on the athletic.

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Ken Rosenthal reveals that Major League Baseball is changing where
the proceeds go when it comes to their Memorial Day apparel.
You know, we always see different you know, uniforms warn't
on certain days and on Memorial Day weekend a Memorial Day,
they'll wear special uniforms. Well, Rosenthal reports that Major League
Baseball now is going to send the charities to how

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families that have lost a loved one at war instead
of the Welcome Back Veterans Foundation, this DOUG because they
want to get the true meaning of Memorial Day, which
is to honor those that are lost. So Major League
Baseball being cognizant of that, making a change to where
they distribute money. Smart making making a change with your
money instead of just with your mouth, yes yes, and

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understanding the real meaning of Memorial Day. So that's kudos
to Major League Baseball. Let's shift gears. Still talking uniforms though,
but in the NFL, the forty Niners unveiled an alternate
all white uniform last night that they are going to
wear in the NFL next season to honor the season.
Now it's gonna be their third uniform DOUG. But the

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alternates are a nod to the Super Bowl twenty nine
winning team Yeah, which won a Super Bowl over the
San Diego Chargers led by Steve Young. That I remember
that Charger team Natron means business stand the man Humphreys
and they got shellacked shell act that was that was
the monkey out the back. Steve youngs right, Yeah, I
thought to One of the best interviews I've ever had

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was Joe Montana who told me he's still pissed that
he was that he was traded from the Niners because
he knew that everybody knew that was the championship team. Yeah.
That year was also the seventy fifth anniversary of the NFL,
so they went to a lot of throwbacks that year,
and the forty Niners throwback was the nineteen fifty five jersey,
which is now I guess this jersey that they're going

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to wear. So just the little semantics are just explaining
how that came about. All right, let's stock some moop.
The Pistons are reportedly targeting former Raptors coach Dwayne Casey
to be their next head coach. According to ESPN, as
long as they don't play Lebron in the playoffs, that's fine.
The New York Times says the Magic will interview former
Hornets coach Steve Clifford, while The Athletics says the Magic
also have an interest in Michigan State's Tom is Ooh

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be interesting. He is a new president, new a d um. Obviously,
the five million dollars they had to pay to Larry
Nasser's victims, plus his own name getting kind of pulled
into it, you know, wouldn't be crazy to see is
Oh finally take a shot and finally dug Game five
and night in Houston Warriors and Rockets. Let's hear from
Steve Kerr about Clay Thompson and andre Goodalla status. I

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believe Clay will play, but we're still listening as questionable.
We've gotta see how he feels in the pregame and
Andre Um again in incremental progress. We'll see game time
decision he needs more treatment, and we'll probably warm up
tonight and we'll see what happens tip off tonight, nine
o'clock Eastern times. Um. Look, I'm I'm interested to see

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what happens tonight in in the game. If Igo Dolla plays,
I feel a lot better about the Warriors in this series.
And he can't really shoot and make a shot occasionally.
It's all the little things that he does and sometimes
just stay in the hell out of the way. He's
a very bright basketball player. He doesn't play. I think
they're in trouble. Get out there and pressed. That was

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the press some of this, some of this discussion about
the NBA. Who I mean, NBA guys continue to call
out the NFL we or the rule which they put
in place, which if you're in the arena, if you're
in the stadium, you gotta stand for the for the
national anthem um. It's a lot like the wall discussion. Now,

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for the record, I think it's a waste of money
to build a wall or to extend the wall, But
I also think that this is kind of what happens
to us to where we're forced to take aside politically, right,
you're either for or against the protests. The NFL is
in the business of getting people to watch. They're also

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a huge portion of their viewership is in the Midwest,
more so than in the cities that watch the NBA,
and enough people who are sponsors and viewers have said,
that's not what I want on Sunday when I'm just
gonna watch football. But the idea that we're creating this. Hey,
the NFL is wrong for putting this rule in place,
and they didn't discuss things with the players. Is is

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a joke they met, But the layers they offered up
to the players, Hey, we'll set you up with funds
to start making real change and real progress. You just
have to decide what the next step is how to
keep Trump out of this equation, because he's gonna find
a way to make it so that he wins. Because

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we have enough people, sponsors that aren't happy about it.
It's gotta stop. We gotta find a way to take
the next step with it. And oh yeah, by the way,
in those discussions this was discussed. This is actually giving
players freedom to which like, hey, look, if you don't
want to stand before the flight, you don't have to

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do not have to be there, but if you do,
we gotta leve you some kind of fine against your team.
We're not even gonna find you. Find your team. They
decided they find you. This is like the wall discussion.
There's already a wall in parts of our country between
US and Mexico. Like, no, there isn't, yes, there is.

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You've been there. I have plenty, not not just at
the actual border we can drive through in Tijuana and
other parts. In other parts of the barrier between the two,
there's already a wall. Now do I think that's a
good place to spend our taxi our money. I do not.
I don't. I don't personally believe it's the best ways
to the best way to make our to to rid crime,

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which is at its lowest point in a hundred years
in our country. I don't. I don't think it's But
we've so changed the narrative to which we can't even
go like, well, there's already a wall. We just they
just want to extend the wall. And part of it
is that's what he said to get elected. So I
just it's so ypercritical of NBA players, and even if

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Steve Kerr to criticize a rule to which they have
the exact same rule in the NBA, essentially the same deal.
I'll be interesting to see what happens tonight, or maybe
what happens in the NBA Finals when the national anthem
is a big thing in both teams are on the floor.
Ryan is the who wins tonight. That's gonna be the Warriors.
Doug John Ramas who wins tonight, Well, going over too

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so far. I'm gonna take the Warriors. Um Dan Buyer
who wins tonight. I'm gonna go Golden State as well.
I think a goodall plays. I think it's a great,
great close game. Karan Butler joined us in the studio.
Will be right or will be all wrong? Find out
tomorrow on The Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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