Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show: 05/24/2018

After losing to the Celtics in game 5, Doug thinks the Cavaliers not having home court advantage could come back to haunt them. He also explains why it is time to be worried about Colts QB Andrew Luck. Plus NBA Champion Dahntay Jones joins the show in studio and tells Doug why the Cavaliers will still win the series in 7 games. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America? Doug got
leave show Fox Sports Radio. Man, do we got a
lot to get to. We'll react to the Celtics drubbing
of the Calves last night. We'll take you to Boston.

(00:23):
I will also be joined by Dante Jones, of course,
former teammate of Lebron James in studio in about an
hour and a half. Jason Whitlock is gonna join us
later on the show. I want to talk to about
Andrew Luck who apparently still has not thrown the duke
the duke uh and and I know a lot of
you have at least discussed this new anthem policy. Wait

(00:48):
to hear what Steve Kerr had to say at the
Warrior shoot around about the NFL's anthem policy and the
follow up question which appears to have been missing from
anybody who had a microphone that was taking in what
Steve Curse said. So all that to come, let's get

(01:08):
to what we saw last night. UM. I sat with
my daughter last night. I was helping her study and
she's um, she was reviewing feudalism. You guys, remember what
feudalism was, and you're like, feudalism. Feudalism was, um, it

(01:32):
was a time and when when lords it was like
lords then nights, right then surfs. Lords owned all the land,
nights protected those lands from barbarians, and serves did all
the kind of daily mostly agricultural work, or they were
kind of like indentured servants around the house. You couldn't

(01:55):
move up in the social structure, but you could definitely
moved down. You lost everything. You could move from a
lord potentially to a surf. No one. There was no
these stories that you hear Disney stories, you know, where
someone's a surf and somehow they marry a lord, like
that didn't actually happen in real life anyway. My daughter

(02:19):
was asking me, like, how much of this do I
really need to know? Which is a great question, and
I was like, I didn't come up in daily conversation
with me, hasn't come up before. But I do think
you need to know what feudalism is because if somebody
represents you know that's like feudalism. You don't want to
be the person who goes, oh yeah, and have no
idea what they're talking about. And then I went to

(02:41):
the other room. My son was was doing some math.
He's nine, doing his multiplication tables, and oh yeah, by
the way, they do math totally differently now than we
had done previously. And he was like, how much this
do I need to use? It's like some you know
you need. There is addition the multiplication in division, like algebra,
not really geovantry, no shot trigger Ammond, try common. I

(03:05):
took it. I still haven't. I couldn't go back and
answer one single question. But I was thinking about about
little things that you learn along the way in a semester,
and about how everything has weighted towards the final. And
you'd get to the final and there might be a
week or two weeks that you checked out I didn't

(03:25):
need that, and then turns out there's a big section
on it on the final. I remember a test like that.
That's the NBA playoffs are getting to be like home
court advantage man or your show. They can go and
win one game Houston, right game one flex our muscles.

(03:46):
There goes your home court advantage. Remember the calves. Up
until the last couple of weeks of season, they weren't
paying attention as much to winning or losing or where
their seed. It was more who we're gonna play. We
want to get the right seed and play the right team.
Funny because when the final comes around game seven, if

(04:07):
there's a Game seven in Houston, Golden State, if there's
a Game seven with the Celtics and the Calves, those
two teams who are both favorites. Let's remember this about
Lebron James. I know many of us, myself included, will
give him a bit of a pass on what appeared
like shutting it down last night. Right. If Lebron James

(04:27):
team loses to the Celtics, Vegas had them as the favorite.
A matter of fact, even after Game one, Vegas had
them as the favorite. After Game four, Vegas had them
as the favorite to win the series. So this would
be an upset, This would be um Vegas would deem
this to be a major upset if the Celtics, without

(04:49):
their two best players won the series, even with home
court advantage, and especially in the Celtics Cavs series, where
you could you can tell me all you want. Corn
is a matter Lebron James in Game seven in Boston
four he has it might not play a huge factor
with him, but if you watched the Celtics this off
this postseason at all, have you how have they performed

(05:13):
on the road versus how they performed at home. It's
like bipolar like multiple personality disorder. Right, call them Butcher
at home, call them Jim on the road. They're different people.
Whether it's youth Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and Terry Rogier,
even Marcus Smart. Young players that play feed off the

(05:35):
energy and almost the there's a little bit there's just
a tinge of viciousness, a lot of toughness that comes
from the Boston crowd. Is it real or pretend real?
I don't know, Like, look you're I don't care if
Boston can tell me how tough a town it is.
If you make enough money to buy a playoff ticket
to a game seven the NBA, plus you're doing okay

(05:55):
for yourself. You've got some court of sort of ancillary income.
This is not like a bare knuckles fight in the
middle of Boston Commons when anybody where, anybody can show up.
So this Boston fans are tougher than Cleveland fans. Like,
you're making a pretty good coin if you go into
one of these games. But there is an energy that

(06:15):
comes from the garden crowd that those guys clearly feed
off of. Additionally, they're able to get away with being
much more physical now. Game seven's are usually very evenly
and and actually well officiated games. They're more physical than
most playoff games, less physical than the grab and holds
fast we've we've seen throughout the playoffs. They're pretty well

(06:38):
pretty they play it straight up and usually the best
team wins. But if you're playing a young team that
is completely different at home than it is on the road.
While it isn't the end all be all, it doesn't
necessarily completely decide the series. It's kind of a big thing,

(06:58):
you know. And as much as we consider and go,
regular season doesn't matter. See, it doesn't matter. Home court
advantage doesn't matter. That's the that section doesn't matter. This
class has all weighted on the final. Dude, it's all
but final. Then the final comes and there's that section
and you look at it. You're like, right, what, Wow,

(07:23):
I might be screwed. You know, I thought to yourself,
killing it good, got a good tutor studied. But if
you don't know it, you don't know it, don't know
what cold So I don't know what to make of
Lebron somehow being disengaged late in that game. Um when

(07:47):
I see two pieces of tape around a water bottle
and I believe that to be what other people like,
Maybe he's either maybe one Lebron is super German phone guy.
Don't touch my water bottle? Very possible, very possible. Um too.
It also could be, Hey, I'm not feeling good, don't
ebody touch my water bottle. Also both could be true.

(08:08):
And just because he's not feeling good doesn't mean that, uh,
I one thing about not feeling well. And I don't
know how you guys are when you play. I feel
better when I play the sport like I've never missed.
The only time I ever missed a practice ever in
my life was was when I was sick at Oaklhom
State my senior. My coach made me go home two

(08:30):
days in a row to not get other people sick.
Because when you're stuffed up and you play, everything kind
of opens up. You know, you just feel better now afterwards,
or when you sit down and slow down, you start
to feel you don't, You lack energy and you get
lethargic and you start to get get get congested again.
But when you're actually playing, you feel fine. You just
might you might might miss a little bit of a

(08:51):
hitch in your step. I'm willing to can see that
he's a little bit worn down physically, mentally, emotionally. I'm
willing to con see that he also thought himself he
winning this game. We said it after game one. Game
one was like, when you winning this game, I'm not
using all my energy. I'm not. I'm gonna save it
for when it really really matters. And one of the

(09:15):
problems with the gift of Lebron is not just that
he's physically gifted. Mentally, he's obviously brilliant. Sometimes yeah, I
think yourself, though not just in terms of overthinking his
jump shot, but he over outthinks himself in terms of
all right, I'm gonna shut it down. And now you
do put a ton of pressure on your teammates to
pick it up in game six, so that you have

(09:36):
the pressure, you have the energy for game seven. Here's
one last note about yesterday. Uh game five, and yesterday's
story was about Kyle Corver. Game five, Kyle Corver was excumeing.
Game four, Kyle Corver was incredible and before game five,
the story about the death of his brother. Going back
into march uh Brian Winhorse did a very good job

(10:00):
to clean but then we we didn't see him in
the first quarter, like where is what did Kyle Korver do?
Who whose corn flakes? DP? And he went from an
incredible weapon making shot after shot after shot to you
don't put him in. Here's Tyler on one. Initially he's
been putting all of j in, so that's been kind

(10:20):
of Col's matchup when he comes in the game. But
he didn't play him tonight, so you know, it kinda
threw us for a loop. But we got brought out
with two and a half minutes and I started a
fourth he wasn't ready to go. So the same thing
happened game I think one or two, I can't remember.
So and as much as you can sit there and go,
I can't believe that Tyler wouldn't play Kyle Korver considering

(10:44):
the matchup, Remember Kyl Corver, they had to have to
find somebody he can guard on that court, and by
their estimation, chemi Ojally is the only guy that can
guard on that court. That he can guard on that
court because he's not there he's not a very good
shooter yet. And by the way, Sammy Old when he
matches up with Kyle Korver can guard him, falls asleep.

(11:07):
Doesn't realize you gotta stay attached, constantly attached to a shooter,
whereas he's more actually of a four man trying to
learn to become a perimeter player. When you're thirty seven
years old and you're just a shooter, you got to
find just the right spot, just the right matchup. And
while Brad Stevens gets a ton of credit for his
out of bounds plays and for some of the sets

(11:29):
and for how hard his team plays, that was about matchups.
And in game five he made a noted roster move
in terms of who he was gonna play and shortening
his bench, and it worked. So would I have still
put Kyl Corver in, Probably because he had such a

(11:50):
hot hand in game four, But I completely understand the
idea of like, look, when you're thirty seven, there's just
only a couple of years, one or two guys on
the other roster that you can guard that you can
stay in front of. You don't want to make a
guy he can't take him is too much for him
Brown's too much for him, Rosier's too much. Those guys
are too quick, too explosive, doesn't you're on an island.

(12:12):
The NBA can't do anything about it. I gotta find
a guy who you can guard. So I do think
that's a viable excuse, even if I would have given
him a look against what would have been a bad matchup.
They just needed some pop and they didn't have any.
By the way, here's Tyler being asked about how Lebron felt.
Did Lebron look tired to you? And especially you know,

(12:33):
did you think he looked tired at all? No concerns.
Gotta be ready to play now, no concerns. Here's Lebron
on how he's feeling my my moments. But I think
everybody at this point it's tired or worn down or
whatever case may be, but still trying to make plays
to help our team win, put us in position to win.
And uh, we had moments, we had an opportunity, but

(12:54):
we didn't um, we didn't make enough place. Yeah, we're
making excuses for Lebron that he's not make excuses for himself.
I do think the Lebron's tired. Hey, everybody's tired. That's
the Steph Curry's hurt, not injured. Everybody's a little bit
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(13:16):
I Heart Radio app. I'm okay freaking out now, right,
I'm okay freaking out now, But apparently Frank Reich is
not freaking out. This from the what is this team website? Again?
This is the official team website. Frank Reich continued to

(13:37):
preach patients, noting he's not fretting over Andrew Luck, not
throwing a football. Nope, not worried at all. Can't cut
things short. There's no reason to cut things short. It's
a day to day process, evaluation, and just trusting in
that I'm completely comfortable with him throwing when he's ready
and when doctors say he's ready. He's totally engaged in
every aspect of what we're doing. Mentally, the physical part.

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For a guy like him, you've got the work at it.
But I'm not worried about that. There's plenty of time.
You guys like yogisms, Yogi barra isms. What's your what's
your favorite favorite heading? Over till it's over? Is probably
the most famous, right baseball is uh? Is? Uh? Was

(14:20):
it physical? Mental? Is that what it is? One of
my one of my favorite yogism is, let's right now, Okay,
it's getting later early. It's getting later early. That's it.
It's getting later early, which is genius. All right, it's
not over, and it's it is. We still have a

(14:44):
long time until actual NFL snaps matter, but it's getting
later early. Like, dude, you gotta be throwing him first.
You have to know if you can do it without
hurting it, then you're gonna have to build up strength,
an endurance in that strength, and then oh yeah, by
the way, you gotta build up accuracy. And then after

(15:08):
all that you got, then you got game speed, game competition,
game reps. We're not talking about he's struggling with throwing
the deep ball, or he hasn't quite gotten his accuracy
in his footwork or throwing motions a little bit different.
He is not throwing a football. And this is the
you had one job type deal. Right. It's like the

(15:31):
the Brandy Chestain statue or you know right where it
didn't look like Brandy chest looked like Brad Chestain more
than Brandy chest Ain. Like that guy had one job
to do make it look like her. He failed. I mean,
pay may never throw a football, great, but to not

(15:52):
throw a football for two years and everybody's going like, oh,
it'll be fine. How do you know? I just you know,
get step step skip steps, just faith. Okay, I'm freaking
out a little bit. Yeah, we're not forget about whether

(16:12):
he can take a hit on it, right, he's got
a new offense, Like, oh, well, he's been doing the
mental reps. You know, it's better than mental reps. Physical reps. Dude,
At some point, you haven't thrown a football in a
position which calls for you to throw a football forty
times a game. Like that's that's we're getting to be it.

(16:33):
It's May. Kids in the Midwest are already out of school.
It goes fast. We're at the end of May. May
twenty four, gone fast, isn't it. So that's June and
you get July and then in August you're in camp
and to not have thrown a football. Remember, a lot
of guys who are coming off injury, a lot of
guys who are young, they get that armed fatigue from

(16:55):
throwing so much in camp. This guy hasn't thrown, so
you can say, well, who is armorably rest to, Like, yeah,
if it's works, what happens if the if the pain
comes back, We don't have any idea. So this feels
like it does feel a little bit like listening to
a doctor. You know, have you ever sprained your ankle

(17:17):
and you go to a doctor and doctors like, oh,
you gotta stay, I gotta get of crutches for like
a month, Like, well, how is it that when I
sprained my ankle, I'm on the crutches for a month
and NBA player you know, ice stim and they play
the next night taping it up. I mean, look, doctors
are going to be extra precautious because no one wants
to be the guy who was like yeah, he he was,
he was rehabbing fine, but that dumb doctor told us

(17:39):
to let let him throw the foot a lettle rip
one or two times and he reinjured. No one wants
to be that guy. So it does feel like, hey,
take a month off of the sprained ankles sort of thing,
like you mean to tell me that it's not rehabbed
enough that he can't throw it just one time. Just
let me just just one time. Nope, I'm not gonna
do it. Doctor's orders. Andrew luck is the only quarterback

(18:02):
with a doctor's note they keep from throwing a football.
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(18:23):
When NBA Championship, he's Dante Jones gonna join us in studio. Um,
all right, let's let's get to what we were just
talking about. You're listening in on O. Hey. The NBA
has the same rule, the same rule. Whereas you want
to stay in the locker room, stay locker room. No,
actually you can't stand. You're not supposed to. So you're
not not supposed to. But but if you're supposed to
go to rest room. But if you're supposed to, if

(18:45):
you're on the court for the national anthem, if you're
on the court and your team has to do something universally, Um,
whether it's hand over your heart, behind your back, whatever
it is, you have to have your uniform on. It
has to be something in unison um. But you have
to be a team in that in that front. Like
remember when the holding of the arms, like you can
some people holding arms, you can't other people not like
you all have to do it together. But there's no kneeling.

(19:08):
No one known has taken a kneed. Hasn't been addressed
by Adam Silver and I think there have been probably
been small conversations and where we say, you know what,
that's not the way we bring attention to this cause.
We can find other ways to do it, because it's
it's obviously being deflected in the right in the wrong
manner within the en NFL, because I think right now

(19:29):
we're deflecting the conversation rather than addressing what it's for.
We deflect it as disrespect rather than saying, you know,
we do have a real problem in our country. So
it's a deflection tactic rather than like this whole, this
whole narrative of disrespecting when it's a it's an opinion.
You may feel disrespectful. I may not. You have veterans

(19:50):
that think it's disrespected. We have veterans that don't think
it's disrespectful people want to lie on have different opinions. However,
we're not addressing what it's for. And I think that's
where the frustration stubbornness is come into play by the players.
I completely actually agree with you on that at that point,
I totally agree with you. My thing is, attention has
been brought to this right. Attention has been brought to
brought to police brutality as a huge problem. But but

(20:13):
the NFL hasn't addressed it. And the reason why is
the NFL is supposed to address police brutality. What I'm
saying is the NFL's has never addressed it and said,
you know, our guys are standing for something, but this
is not the right the way they're supposed to do it.
They say, you know, what is this respectful to the flag?
Like they haven't at some point in time. As as humans,
as Americans, we have to standard what's right sometimes and

(20:34):
and we and the dollar is the dollar is important
in business purposes. But you see businesses standford what's right,
even when it could cost him a dollar or too,
because the end of the day, it is the human
thing to do. Okay, so, but but you didn't. There's
two different parts to it. First, we both agree that
none of this gets us to it, but you're like,
I don't understand what the NFL is supposed to do, okay,

(20:56):
And second, it is actually but I think the NBA
players are supposed to stand. So it is actually the
same rule by by rule, and they can be fined.
Adam Silverston said whether or not he will find somebody
or won't find somebody, but nobody has taken taken a knee.
I guess the second part of the issue is you
have a problem with me saying that it's disrespectful, right.

(21:17):
I respect your opinion, whether you know I don't have
a I don't mind you. I don't have a problem
with you. I just feel differently, and and that's fine.
I think we're all going to feel differently in some
respect to what the notion is. But at the end
of the day, doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree
with it. What it's for is why we're doing Like
I may not agree to a to a protest like
I don't. I mean, I think that's effective, but you
have to understand why the people are doing it, because

(21:38):
they're trying to draw attention to something that is that's
not supposed to be. See. I think it's been really effective.
I think sometimes you people get caught up in the semantics.
I'm not offended by it, but I do think it's
a sign of disrespect. It's an intentional sign of disrespect
to bring attention to a problem. And attention has been
brought to a problem. The there's there's other issue. Respect
for a hat during national ranthem by a fan, Yes,

(22:01):
it's disrespectful, not happyr hand of your heart. Uh no,
the standard attention is good enough. Disrepectat sitting your seat, yes, okay,
but these are all things people do, like don't look
at if you're looking at when you go to the the stadium,
people are hats on, sitting standing, Like when was the
last time you at a game? Game three and four

(22:22):
of the East of the Eastern Conference Final and during
the national anthem, people are sitting. I've seen people sit
like no, some some majority we're standing, Some were sitting.
Some people chose to do different things. Some people go
to the concession stand when it's playing because they're just
like it. This is what it is like. It's not
a pivotal point in the night. If you get what
I'm saying. People say, you know what, I can't wait

(22:43):
till the national anthem starts playing, because that's what I
came for. Now. We came to see this, this this
athletic event, and it's it's it's something that goes on.
People sing, Some people wait to see who's singing it
and who's performing or what have you. But some people
get up and go. Some people are like national is
coming on, I'm out of here. You know what I'm saying.
I don't know anybody who gets out of there other
than somebody who's like, I want to skip that. I

(23:03):
want to I want to cut the line that. I
don't think. I don't think that's why they do, and
they do the night. I don't think it has anything.
I think the guy who goes the concession line is
the guy who thinks he can get a better is
your spot and concession line, But he's not paying attention
to what you value as being important in the night. Sure,
but if you're if you're so, is he disrespectful if
he's trying to be the line at that point time, well,

(23:23):
if he's walking out when they start singing, then yeah, no, no,
if it's like you know, if he walks out right
before they start saying when you start lining up, he
walks up before he made disrespectful. I'm just just a question.
I'm not saying this right now, but if you're in there,
I mean, like I wouldn't because he chose not to
stay for it because he wanted to get And I'm
not I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that.
I'm like, I'm like some flag waving super super patriot.

(23:44):
I will tell you that like comes out at your house.
You're watching your kids, Do you stand up on your
living room? Yes, okay, but it only happens during the
Super Bowl or doing And part of it is just
keep watching the game. I know that, I understand. I
understand they do. But I got kids around him, Like
I think I'm supposed to show them to do this
because it's out of out of respect and out of

(24:06):
respect for a country. I think is kind of the
general thing. Like, Look, I'm not disputing at all that
there's a problem with police officers. Look, we also we
have a litany of other problems that kind of go
hand and hand with That's just the one the athletes
chose to just stand up before because it was the
most one that it resonated in your community and them
as people. And as now we see an athlete who's

(24:27):
dealing with the same type of issue of just just
being he committed. He committed an offense, but he's just like,
it was no need for the level of aggression. Who
was sterling? Oh dude, that was ridiculous, right, So the
whole thing is ridiculous, right, And and so now now
as an athlete, like it doesn't matter, as an African
American athlete, like it doesn't matter just because because I've

(24:49):
ran into two law officers who find is that point
in time to like, oh, oh you think you're hot.
You think you're hot. Problem, you have to de escalate
the situation because of who you are sometimes and because
they just feel threatened. I would say that there's and
and probably not equal numbers, but as a white guy,

(25:11):
I can tell you that there's there. There are cops
that they're just that way with anybody they're on there
agree with and and I and and the hard part
that the hard line to walk. And I think the
big thing that got this off to a bad start
was Kaepernick was not somebody who was comfortable being out
in front of the media and commanding the different to

(25:33):
make sure that the protests kind of stayed on point,
to stay on focus about what it was about, right,
And it just didn't And because he wanted to silently
go about his business and just do it in his
own way and then donate money in his own way.
It needed somebody like a Lebron or who's who's better.
And and then it wasn't that he wasn't big enough.

(25:55):
It's that he had the other He had the pig socks,
he had the the uh, the castro shirt. But also
he's just not somebody who is comfortable in having a
voice more so than in his actions. It has to
be in his words and direct us to how to
follow you next, because he did start a movement that
people are still talking about. Yet you never hear Colin

(26:16):
Kaepernick ever. You mean to tell me, I wouldn't have
MoMA radio show in a heartbeat. He should be on
all He had a responsibility to to voice and and
and and speak on this rather than just I think
so and I agree with you with Dante Jones continues
to join us on the Doug Gottlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's up, let's start it at last night.

(26:38):
You know Lebron. You play with Lebron, and last night
was a night to which they just didn't seem to
have it. Uh, the lack of use of Kyle Korver
because apparently they liked the chemiosual a matchup when you're
sitting there watching the game and they're not using a
guy who now he's a third league score but it's

(26:59):
coming off a night in which he get everything and
and probably changed this series for the better for the Calves.
What was your reaction. I didn't understand the strategy of
having him only play in the second quarter or not
playing any first quarter minutes, but there's obviously some strategy
behind it, and it didn't work, so I guess we
gotta go back to the drawing board. Um, but you

(27:19):
have to respect the effort that those kids on the
Celtics put out on their home court. They're like, they're
they're amazing at Why are they so much better at home?
I don't That Celtic crowd is amazing. Number one, it's
in the top five of best arenas in best crowds
and best fan bases in the NBA. But they just
have so much more confidence and you and there. Even

(27:40):
the shots they take early on are just different with
their their home crowd behind them. So um officiating to officiating,
I think plays apart um. I don't think. I don't
think so in that capacity. I think they just they're
just more confident. Marcus smarts knocking threes down and in
in a in a great capacity there and not in Cleveland.
Like it has nothing to do it officially, I think

(28:00):
it's still gonna be a tough game. Defensively they give
the effort, but offensively they're more confidence. They play at
a different pace when they're at home. All right, So
what about Lebron? At some point he did whether he's
playing to the camera or he was exhausted, you know,
he had that he had a look on his eyes.
On the other hand, we saw this in game one
a little bit to where I don't know if he

(28:21):
was just you know, conserving himself for a game too.
What do you think what's going on? He's been saying
he's like extremely tired after these games and outputs he
had to put on, so he's this is not something
that's been even in the last game. When when when
they won. He said, I there's nobody more tired than
me right now after this game. Um, but even the
first you look at the first quarter, you can say
he just didn't have it. And as an athlete, you
can say some nights like you just don't have it,

(28:44):
like consistent. We think he's a robot, we think he's
like he's superman. But he had twenty six and ten
and he looked bad. And that that's crazy right now,
like we're acting like he had the worst game ever.
But he looked exhausted. He looked like he looked you
see it in his face. He looked dehydrated. He looked
like all these things that happened to athletes when you

(29:04):
think you're fine and then all of a sudden you
just feel like crap and and and it sucks. There
used to be and I like love this video. R
c U R R C. Cart thought it was Um.
Remember they used to it was like like a little
radio controlled cart and you had the nut. You could
hit the nitris right or in in any of the
NFL live games whatever. In terms of hitting the turbo.

(29:25):
Sometimes you go to hit the turbo button and you
got no no turbo there, and it's not there, and
that how hard is it to get it back when
you only have one day off in between these next two. Um,
it's just like some days, you just it's just some
some days we just have bad days. Some days our
body just feels bad as we get older, Like you
just feel terrible and you have to fix it by diet, sleep,

(29:46):
whatever you can do in these next couple of hours.
But it's just something he's gonna have to try and
try and fix. Do you think they win the series?
I think they win this series. I I've said this,
it's gonna be a seven game series. Okay, I think
they're gonna win tomorrow. And I look forward to a

(30:07):
historic performance in Boston Garden. Like with it's back against
the wall, I think he he operates the best with
his back against the wall, um, and I have faith
in that. I think we have two commodities, proven commodities
in the NBA right now, the Golden State Warriors and
Lebron James. I like. And what I bet against either
one of those two? No, yeah, I I kind of
think that he wasn't feeling great, uh, and there was

(30:30):
a certain level of conservation and there is the knowledge
he still has, whether it's confidence or arrogance, the same
thing as the Warriors that he knows Game seven in Boston.
I've done this. I've literally done this before. Other people
can say the confidence, but he is a confidence in
the track record to say, you know what, Okay, I
can scratch that throw out aside, and I've done this
before and I can do it again because I am
the greatest in the game. Right. It is a dangerous,

(30:50):
dangerous game to play. All right, Let's get to the Warriors,
who it looks like they're gonna have Clay. I think
they'll have Iguadala, but we don't know how important is
Iguadala from your That's the dangerous one right there, because
what makes them specials they have they have multiple elite defenders.
They have Draymond, they have um Clay, they have Andre

(31:11):
and Sean Livios and at points and times can do
that Um. But then when you take him away, you
take their best defender away. The quarterback. He's a playmaker. Um.
He's probably the smartest. He's always in the right spot
because it's the most intelligent. And you can tell that
like he's all about winning because he's a max player
that took a demotion to the bench and doesn't care

(31:31):
about the stat alive. He just wants to win. And
that is what makes that team special because you have
a max player to say, you know, I go to
the bench and I just do whatever you want to.
If you're gonna be every six and five, I will
just just just to win a championship and going to
Hall of Fame like that, I'm fine with that. Um Okay,
I don't think Andrea Dallas got a Hall of Fame
when when junior champion, you're going to you're gonna you're

(31:52):
going to the Hall of Fame, your finals, m v P,
You're going your It may take a couple of ballots,
but I love you. I don't think he going Hall
of It. Dante Jones joining us in the Doug Show.
You're in the Hall of Fame already as a champion though,
like yeah, but you get introduced as a Hall of Famer,
you get voted as a Hall of Famer, like I
I think Draymond's going in because how many you know,

(32:15):
how many defense are not in the Hall of Fame.
That's that's what happened. If you like that, we'll have
Ryan Music pull up the check that out, but finals
m vps don't aren't necessarily things that he'll be very close.
He'll probably get in there. But he was also multi
time All Star, which i'd like to see Iguadala, who

(32:35):
previously in his career average over twenty a game but
now is so here. Here's what I think Iguadala's okay.
You know when you have a you know, when you
have like a quartet and you have the one guy
who's the basse guy that right, like that guy right like,
you always go like, hey, anybody can do that. Anybody
can do it, and then all of a sudden they

(32:56):
switch bass guys and he doesn't know quite the moves
like everybody else the base. That's what like, Look, I
think Jordan Bell eventually is gonna be a good, really
good player. I think No, he won't be close to
Andre Goodala. No no no, no, I'm saying, but remember we're
talking Andregodala now in his mid thirties as opposed. He'll
never be Andrea Goodala in his twenties, but he could
very easily be a Clint Capella type eventually. That's the

(33:17):
type of player that he'll be six ft eight, can
guard a bunch of positions. But that's fine, Okay, what
six ten eleven? The point is as a ring protector,
a guy who can switch on the defense, rebound with
great energy. I think he's gonna be a really good player.
I think Kavon Luney's gonna be a really good player.
But at this point in time, when they're out there
in a big situation, they're like a little bit off

(33:39):
there in the wrong play like wait where am I
supposed to be? This is not and they're just a
little bit off if they have Iguadala. Even though Igodala
is the fifth most important terms of scoring offensive player, right,
but he does so many things that you can't quantify,
whether it be scoring, defense, playmaking. He's he's he's their
quarterback with Drakemond and making plays, get guys in the
right sets, um and keeping keeping heads cool. As you

(34:02):
see what um with Steve Kerr said about him, like
he's he's a valuable part of that team because they
are ultimately a team. They're collective of very good players
that work well together and and make up for for
each other's inefficiencies. Okay, are they in trouble if he
doesn't play their in trouble. But it's hard to bet
against him when when he's on it, when he's availab
when they have a full roster, it's hard to bet

(34:25):
against them. Why do you think because he with with
the exception of game was Game three and then that
five minute stretching Game four, Uh, Steph has looked He
hasn't looked like an all NBA guy. He's looked like
a guy who takes a lot of shots. Why that's

(34:46):
what he does. He takes shots? Like, what do you
depend on Steff Curry to do it? In the day.
You pend on him to make shots and take shots.
You don't depend on him to make place for other people.
He just has shooters around him. No, I I totally
and I completely understand that. I'm saying though that that
the percentages are way down again if you take out
those stretches their games. That he has to play defense

(35:07):
Conference finals. He he struggles when when when he's being
his confidence lie. It's looking like his confidence lies in
his ability to to just just to be comfortable out there,
and when people are attacking you every play looking for
your switch, making you work on the defensive end, it
takes away from his personal confidence, which is helped hurts

(35:28):
the shooting confidence. So with Igodala out there, like their
whole thing is they're trying to find the right matchup
and the switching and all that, and well looking at
him like now I don't want him. I don't want him.
Oh yeah, I want him, And it's just it's just harder.
It's hard with him not being there is it's easier
to get to match up that you want in the
favorable matchup and you go one on one with and

(35:49):
and you can create something. But by the way, I'm
gonna I'm gonna win the DeAndre Goodala Finals MVP debate
real quick? Why was he the finals MVP? Because he
actually did something offensive end too, because they didn't guard him.
They remembered in that finals they didn't got guard him.
They left him wide open and he made them pay right,
and that it's hard to do well when you're no, no,

(36:09):
no, no no, because shooting confidence because because he has left
Harrison Barnes and he didn't do it, I understand it's
hard to do being left open. It is probably the
worst one you want to be in because it's a
lot of pressure. One I'd rather have somebody running at
me to leave me squide open. My my point is
that I don't think anyone would argue he was even
the best player in that series. He just simply scored
a bunch of points because he scored a whole bunch

(36:32):
of did a great job. But also Lebron probably should
have been the MVP, considering he was playing without when
he was playing with that Kyrie was the numbers in
that series. Not great, okay, not great, but they played
a depleted Calvs team and so it was like an ensemble,
which I haven't I have a whole opinion on that
one too, because all right, good, you'll give us the
opinion on that one. In a second Doug Olive show

(36:53):
Fox Sports Radio, Dante Jones played for a decade in
the NBA one NBA Championship with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He
joins us in studio, all right, so uh, we want
to start Calves go. So I don't agree with people saying,
you know what, the Calves won the championship because Draymond

(37:14):
didn't play, or because they had injuries because you know,
um Boge went down and people weren't fully healthy. But
then they give the Warriors the credit for winning it
the first year they wanted when Kevin Love and Kyrie
didn't play, theyn't have a full roster. Well, I don't know,
but I just don't know who you're reacting to, because
like the sense of media, the media is but who
what what media? I mean, I don't do the media

(37:37):
because I'm in the media. Public perception they have they
earned THEIRS, but the Calves did not earn theirs. That's
that's that's that's well, look, I think there's but if
you remember when the Warriors first won their title, a
lot of people it was by it. I thought there
actually was. Remember Steve Kurrven said, we were we were fortunate,

(37:57):
we were lucky that they play a the was the Hornets,
then the Pelicans, now the Hornets, and Drew didn't play
the first two games they played, they played the Grizzlies,
Mike nd they didn't play. And then they never played
the Clippers of the Spurs that year because the Clippers
beat the Spurs, and then the Rockets beat the beat
the Clippers, and then and then they played the Rockets
at pep Everley, and then after game one, didn't have Kyrie,

(38:20):
never had Kevin Love, so I disagree with you in
terms I think was there an asterisk by it? Like, yeah, look,
this is what's happened in so many championships in the past,
always a big just so much is how good you are?
Larry Bird? Larry Bird's back cost the Celtics title. Uh
Byron Scott was hurt one year. That hurt the Lakers,
even when the Lakers last repeat ended. Yes, Kobe and

(38:43):
Shack refuting, but Carmelone got hurt and Rick Fox got hurt, right,
and and of course the Pistons beat him. So it
has coaching and players. They all have to outline like
the stars up to aline. For you to win a
championship is just not total dominance and you just like people,
it's a long season. So health is a is a
is a part of your championship properly characterized from an

(39:06):
NBA veterans mind, what we should see when we see
the Golden State Warriors. What we should see well, like,
like I've heard is this the greatest team of all time?
Is this? When you see them? What he's them as
a collective and I see them as like they have
a bunch of important pieces. Like when people say, you

(39:27):
know Steph is stefs not their best player, but he
he does his job. He he creates spacing for the
other parts of their team. Clay is one of the best.
They have the top three shooters in the game. Katie's
the best, one of the top two scorer because of
Kyrie is around like you can debate that he but
he's seven feet tall. He can get to a spot.

(39:48):
He can score him on basically anybody. Um So they
have spot up shooters. They have tough shot makers, hybrid
hybrid defensive players as well. They have multiple defenders. They
as they all so, are all very bad. They're also
very bright. They also have guys that are collectively like
Steve helped them become bright because Steve Kerr plays an

(40:08):
integral part there, because they they have great coaching, because
his system and how he got step off the ball
and put him into just a mover and where he
moves without the ball now right, and just put him
in tradditional point guard space where he just has to
um a role and make places where but that's not
what he does. He's a nightmare off the ball, the
way he cuts and moves and keeps and you always

(40:30):
have to be focused to Wars and see, that's actually
one of the best points I've ever heard made that
I've never heard anyone say. Right. It's like the genius
to Phil Jackson wasn't just the triangle offense. It was
that he got people in perfect spence triangles, perfect spacing
so that Mike could be Mike. And then he convinced
Michael Jordan's when a double team comes, I'm gonna get
the right teammates in the right spot. You get it
to him and they'll make shots. Ended up working, and

(40:51):
what you're saying is, hey, Steve Kerr was the first
guy to tell Steph like, stop trying to prove your
point guard. Just be Stef Curry. Sometimes you handle it,
sometimes you move and it's been the greatest shooter of
all time, and you can be that and you can
make it a nightmare for people to guard everybody else
because we have specialists. You like me understand how important
confidence is. K D. Something weird happened the fourth quarter

(41:14):
where he took two terrible shots and then last possession
he didn't even look at the basket. He just he
quick kind of kind of hot poitated it to Clay Thompson,
how hard is it for a guy of his stature
to flip it in one game to go from terrible
fourth quarter everybody's talking about you turning down a shot
to Okay, I gotta get back to being k D.
It's all learning exparience. Each game is a learning experience.

(41:35):
You grab different things from each game in the course
of a series. I think he hindsight is always twenty twenty.
He's aware of that right now. But and that instance,
in that quick instance, he was forced to be a playmaker,
and that's not what he does. He's a score. He's
a flat out score. He had he finds his spot,
he gets it done. He scores over anybody at that
point in time. He tried to make the right play.

(41:55):
And that's just that's not the best of his skill set. Yeah,
when people say just be you, be you, that that isn't.
He was supposed to get a shot up. He's supposed
to get the best shot, get to a spot in rise.
And the only thing I can think of is he
overreacted to how bad, how atrocious those previous two shots
where that he took and tried to get somebody else
to look Dante Jones great stuff, man, be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays

(42:16):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Jason Wittlock from
Speak for Yourself joined us in The Doug Gotli Show.
When when you heard the new NFL policy on the
national anthem, what was your reaction. I think my initial
reaction was it's a step in the right direction, and

(42:40):
I half step in the wrong direction. I think it
tries to please everyone, and I don't think this is
a situation where you can please everyone. I think the
NFL should have chosen just to purely please it's fan base,

(43:00):
and the fan base is bothered by the national anthem protests.
It's it's not good television. It's not good for television ratings.
It brings a conversation into game day that's not good
for football. And so I wanted the NFL to do

(43:21):
with David Stern did when he was faced with this
issue two decades ago, with my move abdu Raouf and
you just pass a rule, Hey, you gotta stand for
the national anthem. I felt like they had two options.
They could have said, Okay, we're just gonna take our
players off the field during the national anthem, everybody staying

(43:42):
in the locker room, or and this is probably option
I would have preferred. I you come out and you
stand for the national anthem. If you choose the protest,
you don't play period. Um. Yeah, if you can't play,
you don't play period. That bit, that one seemed that

(44:02):
you know that that one seems more challenging to get
through than what they did. I will tell you this,
I like you, like any human being bothered by what
happened to Sterling Brown. I think they ran into a
lot of bad luck with the announcement just the day
the video, the Sterling Brown video, It becomes public right
like seventy two hours beforehand that they were releasing the

(44:29):
Sterling Brown video Wednesday. So it wasn't by surprise it
didn't drop. It's not an album that was dropped by surprise.
That was they told the Milwaukee Police said we're releasing
this on Wednesday, earlier in the week. Uh. But again
this just goes back, Hey sometimes does this really tough

(44:51):
decisions to make in all the walks of life, but
particularly in sports, and particularly in these politically charged times.
And and David Serr made the right call with the
NBA years ago, and it hasn't been a problem, And
now everyone's reacting like the NBA doesn't have a harsher

(45:12):
rule or the same rule as the NFL does. Now
no one's talking about that. I find like Steve Kerr's
comments today preposterous. Well they have even even worse way,
but even worse people in our profession. Nobody challenged him
on it. And and and for people who want to know
what Steve Kerr said, let me play for this is
Steve Kerr after they shoot around today offering his opinion

(45:35):
on the NFL's new UH policy. They're just applying to
their fan base and they're just basically trying to use
the anthem as fake patriotism, nationalism um, scaring people in
city outic. But that's how the NFL has handled their business.
I think our leadership in the NBA understands that when

(45:56):
the NFL players players renewing, they were to protest police brutality,
protest rational inequality. Go on about Steve Kerr. Look, I
don't know if Steve Kerrand had to Was he in
Chicago with Craig Hodges. I think he was in the
league when Chris Jackson. My mood abdul Roof was in

(46:20):
the league, the NBA. Everything he just said applies to
the NBA and all of sports have attached themselves to
patriotism as a way to market themselves and as a
way to to to attach sports to the best ideals
of Americana. This is not This is pervasive throughout all

(46:43):
of sports. Sporting events are the only place where we
play the national anthem. So this isn't something brand new,
and so it's a read. And in a league that
one of their players yesterday they release the video of
one of their players being abused by the police. Why

(47:05):
isn't Steve Kerr leading the Golden State Warriors and taking
a knee tonight and asking all of the NBA to
take a knee. Why is he not doing that? Why
is he taking pot shots at football? It's it's repulsive
and embarrassing to me. I don't get it. I'm trying

(47:27):
to as well. I asked. I've asked the NBA people.
They c well, it's a completely different relationship with the
commissioner like that. That's that that's a cop out statement, right,
It's the same rule. They haven't challenged the rule and
yet they're questioning the NFL for instituting a rule that
Adam Silver has been the commissioner of the NBA for

(47:49):
seventy years. The guy is two or three years into
his job, and yes, he's as soft as butter and
the he uh, he's intimidated by the layers, and he's
best friends with the players. Let's see how long that
leadership style actually works. And last, he's presiding over a

(48:09):
league that can't put on competitive games at playoff time
right now. But no one in the media will talk
about this in a real way and ask questions about
why is that? Is there something wrong with the rules?
Have we gone three or three point addictive? Have the
players made so much money that they're just not as
competitive when Facebook adversity. None of this gets addressed because

(48:32):
we're all caught up in this attack on football, which
is unfair out of context, put a lie that this
whole notion that NFL ownership is just blatantly patently racist.
They've constructed a league that has seventies sevent black employees

(48:55):
making a ton of money, a ton of money and touches.
No industry has created more black millionaires than football in
the NFL and we're attacking it as racist. This is
reading over Colin Kaepernick. It's it's ridiculous. Colin Kaepernick and

(49:18):
a lot of these football players have to understand they
were working on a television show. That's what the NFL is,
that's what the NBA is, that's what Basic League Baseball is.
Television shows have scripts, and they have producers, and when
that television show starts with the national anthem, it's all
scripted and it's and the reason why they're making so

(49:40):
much money is because of what Steve Kerr has identified
as fake patriotism, which is actually brilliant marketing and has
allowed these guys to make a generational wealth, help their
families pull themselves out of poverty, all kinds of You
don't attack in the industry like that. You help it
get better bet her, but you don't attack it and

(50:02):
try to bring it down. You don't paint those people
as racist. All right, So, Jason, a black listener might
listen to you and say, you know you work for Fox,
you're just selling out. What would your response. I would say,
I'm speaking the truth. I'm a black person who senior

(50:22):
year in high school. Me and my father lived in
a one bedroom for her to square foot apartment in
the hood of Indianapolis, and football came and got me
and put me on a college campus and change my
life and the life of my family. I never got
a whiff of the NFL. But but I'm just speaking

(50:42):
a truth, a factual truth that you have been hoodwinked
and bamboozled into believing football in the NFL is some
sort of racist industry against the black man. If you
would apply the same standards to Hollywood, where a black
man and a black woman can barely of the job,
can can't make the kind of money you can make

(51:03):
in the NFL, seventies of their employees aren't black. You
won't attack that, and that's run by liberals, but you'll
attack football because you think it's run by conservatives who
are biggest, who have created an industry that's better for
black men than anything the other the other group, the
liberal side, says they've created for the black man. You've

(51:26):
been led us straighthood wing, bamboos or whatever. You're just wrong.
Jason Whitlock from Speak for Yourself joins us on the
Doug got Lip Show. Also a talented calumnist. As you
read and you can see him as a sports personality.
Uh and and uh uh just a personality on plenty
of news shows throughout the year. He joins us here

(51:48):
on the Doug got Lip Show. All right, let's get
to last night. What's your take on Lebron suddenly tired,
suddenly worn down mid series? Shop the hill out of me. Listen,
Lebron's a weird duck man. We we've seen strange things
from him when he was in Miami, the meltdown against Dallas,

(52:10):
previous uh stint in Cleveland, the meltdown against the Boston Celtics,
and last night we saw another clunker of a game
that you know, I just think is a part of
Lebron's issues, perhaps with anxiety or who knows what, Maybe

(52:31):
he just went I'm kicked it last the night before.
I don't know, but we've seen it before where Lebron
will have these games that are impossible to understand, it
impossible to explain. Do you think he can still win
the series? Yeah? I never ever ever count Lebron James
out of anything. He was down three one to the

(52:52):
Golden State Warriors, came back and one. That championship for
Cleveland never count him out. I fully expect Tim to
win the next two games. But you know, I know
there are other people out there to think, Look, this
is the process of Lebron exiting from Cleveland, and he's
you know, backing off. But I just don't see it.

(53:13):
I never count him out. I expect this series to
go seven, and I expect him to figure out how
to win it all. What about the Warriors? Suddenly they
looked human, They look fallible. You don't think they look human? No,
I think they missed. Andre Equadolla and Kevin Durant had
a bad fourth quarter. I think that's all that happened
last game. I think Golden State is gonna handle their

(53:34):
business today. If you give me fascinating to see, man,
I don't know. I don't think anything happened. I think
James Harden had a good first half, christ Paul had
a good second half. The rest of that cast, I
didn't see anything that I think it's transferable to the
night that makes me think, oh my god, you know
if If Capella or Eric Gordon or p J. Tucker.

(53:58):
I didn't see anything from the supporting cast. I saw
good halves by both guards, and I saw Kevin Durant
have a bad fourth quarter and Noandre Guadala. I agree
with you on both, but I also there was a
sense of panic from the Warriors for a team that's
won a championship, team that is made up of guys
that have competed in three championships. You know, some of

(54:20):
them have won two championships. They're they're just there wasn't
an ease by which they handled the rockets. And I
think you Godal is a big part of it. He's
an underrated valuable commodity, especially when you had a Jordan
bellar Kevon Looney kind of in the wrong. He's out
the charts in terms of brilliance. Even if he can't shoot,
he's always in the right place at the right time,

(54:42):
and he's a tremendous defender. That said, like Steph, Steph
Clay and Kevin Durant, they all panic. They all took
terrible shots and looked completely out of sorts. All true,
all fixable, and I just think I just didn't see
enough from Houston that makes me think, oh, they got it.

(55:05):
I saw Houston Chris Paul make a free throw when
he shouldn't, and then I saw Steph Curry get a
wide open shot with a half second left. So I
just saw all the things about Houston and Mike D'Antoni
that they did dumb stuff too. They just got away
with it for at night. It's I still can you

(55:26):
figure out why they need that free throw? No, just
they're not well coast and they're just it starts from
the top my dame talking someone. Someone was there a
huddle before he took the second shot? Did anyone think
you know? Because don't players gather up and any look
over to the sideline and get to my should I

(55:46):
make or miss? Chris Paul just decided he's gonna make
the free throw because he was frustrated to miss the
first one and it just wasn't fall through. Um. Do
you enjoy watching James Harden play? Now? I really don't
enjoy watching Houston play that much. Just there's just not
enough ball or man movement. I don't like the ice

(56:08):
O style of play. Uh And no, I'm not James
Harden is not fun basketball in comparison to Steph Curry
or Clay Thompson or Lebron or Kevin k d That
he's just not fun to watch. I agree with great
stuff man, let's talk soon, okay, all right, thank you,
all right, Jason Whitlock