June 22, 2018 • 33 mins
Doug tells you why most NBA fans were not impressed with last night's draft. He also explains why he's not surprised to hear the Rockets might not resign Chris Paul to a max contract. He talks to Nuggets GM Arturas Karnisovas about taking a chance on drafting Michael Porter Jr. Plus, Mo Bamba joins the show to discuss his transition into the NBA and getting draft by the Magic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. One Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope. You're ready for a great,
great sports weekend. Um. Look, we had last night's NBA
Draft coverage, which I thought was outstanding on Fox Sports Radio,
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including Chris Bruce sard Uh saying a little something about
the Chris Paul extension that everyone thought was done might
not be done. Plus we got the Jamis Winston being
suspended for what exactly. Um, we'll we'll dig in on
the Denver Nuggets as their Jenner manager. Our tourist Carnisiatists,
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of course, played at Seton Hall back in the early nineties,
will be our guest. Evan Daniels will join us. We'll
talk about some of the guys, some of the lauded
college basketball players who are not selected, and some of
the surprises of last night. Um, and we'll also talk
about the Calves and Lebron. We got us, we got
We're just jam packed here. Rick Buker is gonna join us,
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Nick Bob is gonna join us. Man, we got a
good show for you. Um, it is the summer season
I hope you're having a great summer. It was the
waning days of spring. Now it's officially summer. I've spent
the past couple of days here in the northeast city
of Boston trying to figure out what's what with Boston Celtics.
Got a chance to be around the organization a little
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bit today they got a new practice facility. Was spectacular. Meanwhile,
uh so spring summer has sprung here. If you will,
it is absolutely gorgeous in Boston Commons. Wherever you are,
I hope you're headed out to a lake of beach, mountain, whatever,
get outside. It's if it's great. We're watching the World Cup. Man,
how good was Nigeria today? But um, with summer comes
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the concert season. My buddy of mine went to see
uh Darius Rucker last night in Tulsa and Darius that
tries to face time me at like one in the morning. Dude,
I'm on the East not the West Coast. I love
my boy Darius. I love going to concerts. There are
certain concerts that I try and go to every year.
I'm one of those guys. Now I don't love, um
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what I I don't love about some of my my
favorite artists are two things. One I hate um. I
hate when they're like compilations, when they when like like
mush a bunch of songs together. But the thing that
is the hardest, the absolute hardest to take in when
you're at a concert is this one's from our new album, right.
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I remember this YouTube played in um Boston Garden last night.
I didn't go. We if you've ever been to Boston,
we went to the North Side, great Italian food, went
to dinner, was amazing, watching the NBA Draft, eating, drinking
some wine, breaking some stories on Twitter. It was fun.
But I went to the you too. I think it
was Pop Mart tour. Ramos probably remembers it because he
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was around Los Angeles at the time. It was in
the mid nineties. It was one of their few albums
that didn't do well, and I remember that anything he
played streets had no name all the at the time
the lighters came out. Now everybody obviously does the cell phones.
But when they said this is from the Pop Mart album,
that's when you went and got a beer. That's when
you went and took a leak. That's when he sat
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down and you talked to the people next to you right.
I remember, Um, I've I've heard so many different bands
in concert, so many um, but I remember it was
the It was the very first national tour National tour
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um for the Zach Brown Band, and I was in
Hartford at the time, and I went to the concert. Now,
Zach Brown Band had previously opened for Dave Matthews Hand
and Z B B. If you've ever seen them in concert,
you know this to be truth. They got a little
they got a little grateful dead to them, right. They're
all super talented musicians. One of the worst looking groups
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of men as well. They're like the country version of
boys to men, right, Like if it wasn't for music,
they wouldn't get any ladies. You put an instrument in
somebody's hand, you put them on stage, and the ladies flock.
I can't tell you what it is, it's just the
way it is. But Zach Brown Band has a little
bit of that grateful dead Dave Matthews Band. Every song
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becomes ten twelve minutes, every instrument has a solo, and
men are they talented musicians? And man, it's getting late.
It was a Sunday night in Hartford, open air, beautiful
night and uh when they played was a Chicken Fried?
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I was jamming. I was jamming. But when they played
songs from their new album, considering they only had one
album out at the time, I was lost. It wasn't
just it wasn't just that they were playing songs from
an album. I didn't know. It was that they're playing
songs from an album. I didn't know. That took way
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too long. All right, you want to play compilation, Play
compilation of the new stuff. Play the one hit that's
on the radio from the new thing. Matter of fact,
if you only had four hits, which they only had
about four at the time, just play those in repeat.
But it got long, he got drawn out. And I'll
be honest with you, I want a good concert. It wasn't.
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I've had the opportunity see Zach Brown Band about ten
times over since then, and now they have an incredible
depth of music to deliver on. And I have no
doubt that those of you who go and see ZBB
and concert, like, dude, you're missing out. It's a great show.
They're up there for three hours. First of all, it's like, sorry,
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Bruce Springsteen fans, when you tell me that Bruce is
up the boss is up there for three hours. That
doesn't make me want to go see Springsteen, doesn't. I'm
not a Springsteen guy, and I'm just not a three
hour concert guy. I'm not a three hour movie guy.
I'm not a three hour anything guy. I get a
d D at the fourteenth hole. Anyway, My point is,
once you start going to this is from our new album,
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it's time to get a drink, time to get a coke,
time to get a beer, time to take a leak,
time to talk sweetly to the to the things sitting
next to you. Right, that's what happened last night with
the NBA draft. All of these guys in the new
album thirteen of the first eighteen picks are one and
dunes thirteen of eighteen. It's not that they're not ultimately
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going to be good. It's that you're telling us, trust me,
they're gonna be good when we're First, we have numbers
to point out that there's a good percentage of them
that won't be great. Secondly, even if the song is good,
if we just haven't heard it enough, if we haven't
adjusted our ears to it, it takes a while. We
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don't know the lyrics, we don't know the melody. We
don't know the beat, we don't know the hook, we
don't know these kids. I do, but that's because that's
what I've done for fifteen years, and I love it.
But I'm also so reasonable, and I gotta tell you,
the NBA Draft used to be really cool. It used
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to be really cool. I don't know when that moment
was that it wasn't that cool. But the perfect example
of how it's trying to be cool again was they
did player introductions last night. That's what they did. They admitted, Man,
we're not cool. Man, we gott alive in this thing up.
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Let's do what's the coolest thing about basketball? Well, outside
of slam dunks and three point shots, which will show
on video, it's player intros. All we needed was, guys,
was slacks to have tearaway pants, and you would have
had the whole thing. The problem with the with the
intros is it sounded a lot better in the boardroom
than it played out on TV. I have no doubt
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there's gonna be some good players. I have some thoughts
on each team. I'll share them with you throughout the
next three hours. You have any questions eight seven, seven,
nine nine, Fox or feel to tweet me. Feel free
to tweet me. At Gottlieb Show, we can even talk
about the guys that didn't get drafted last night and
why they didn't get drafted last night. But man, there
used to be network TV used to be cool, pay
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phones used to exist, and back when all that happened,
the NBA draft used to be a what's what and
who's who? You had to watch because and what's the
real reason? You knew him? You knew Patrick Ewing, you
knew Larry Johnson, you knew Christian Lightner and Bobby Hurley,
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Hecky even new Grant Hill. You go through guys and
the more you knew them, the more you felt attached
to them. It's the same with music. It's the same
with music. It doesn't matter how good this song is.
You might think that's gonna be a hit, but until
it's a hit, until it hits number one on the charts,
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it's really hard for me to start memorizing it and
knowing it and and you may even think it's what
We play out the top songs on Top four the radio.
They probably do ed Shearon's Perfect has played so many
times over the past year or so that it's a completely,
perfectly imperfect song. I want to scream every time I
hear it, but the point is simple, just like summer music,
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when you go to hear it and it's this is
from our new album. The NBA draft is too many
new albums, too many new players. Michael Porter Jr. Who
will talk about with our next guest, the general manager
of the Denver Nuggets, who felt to them at fourteen,
was a top five high school American and suffered an injury.
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There's him talk that he might not play much at
all this year, but because you didn't see him, you
have to take everybody's word for it. Trust me, this
is gonna be a hit and after a couple hours.
Like my first Zack Brown been experience, it's hard to
listen to because you don't know it. Be sure to
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catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. There are some things
that are seen as a foregone conclusion, but it's not
really foregone that that's the conclusion should not be foregone.
The perfect example of that is that Chris Chris Paul
is going to resign with the Houston Rockets. Now, Look,
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I I offered up when Lebron season was over. Why
can't he go to the Lakers? Why can't he bring
Chris Paul with him? I don't think that's ultimately the
home for UH. For I don't think the Clippers would
be an option because I just don't think Lebron goes
to the Clippers, even though, hey, look it is Jerry West,
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and Jerry West has shown and Jerry West did a
great job of the draft last night, expect I thought outstanding.
I love Jerome Robinson and I like Shay Giltish Alexander
from Kentucky. Has two good guards to build the future
of your back court. But why can't Chris Paul, who
should have been a Laker if not for the trade
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being overturned by UH by David Stern back in the day,
should have been a Laker already. Take a listen to
what Cris Broussard said on the Herd earlier today in
regards to Chris Paul in a situation in Houston. What
I'm hearing is that there's tension now between Houston and
Chris Paul, not irreparable tension, But there's some tension because
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there was obviously a handshake wink wink. However you want
to describe it, deal or agreement between Chris and Houston
when he left four years a hundred seventy five million
dollars on the table with the Clippers. You don't leave
that type of money on the table unless they're like, look,
we're gonna take care of if you don't worry. Blah
blah blah. So what's that mean? Now? Look, the the out,
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the clever out for the Houston Rockets front office is, hey, man,
we're under new ownership, right, We're under new ownership, and
I'd love to do it, but my boss says it's
not a smart plan. And remember, as much as you
can say, hey, Chris Paul gave up all this money,
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think about all the players that Houston gave up to
get Chris Paul. And in defense of the Rockets first,
handshake agreements or not agreements, as we've seen before. Second,
wasn't Chris Paul hurt at the most important time, the
one time of year which he was brought in for,
right the series against the Golden State Wars. And it
doesn't mean that it was his fault that he was hurt,
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but he was in fact hurt. He was so I
understand if Chris Paul is bitter that they haven't just
automatically a we're automatically gonna resign you to the max
contract you can get for as many years as possible
late in your career. But I also understand what the
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Rockets are doing. And if you're the Lakers and you
hear this, it's music to your ears. What do we
gotta do to get Chris Paul here? Because Lebron has
always wanted to play with Chris Paul, and Chris Paul
has always won't want to win a title, and he
always wanted to be a Laker even when he was
a Clipper. It doesn't mean it's going to happen. It
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just means that anytime you think it's a done deal
until the ink is dry, lasting final does not mean
last and final. Remember that, guys, when you're negotiating a deal,
last and final. Perfect example, did you see uh Foxes
other you know, all Foxes movie vault and other stuff
was was sold to Do you know the Disney agreement
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was reached like four or five months ago and then
what happened. Comcast came in and said, like, well, you
know what, we can make an all cash offer, make
a better offer. So you know what happened. Disney paid
even more money. Do you know why? Because last and
final is not last and final, and the handshake agreement
is not the agreement in agreement is an agreement. Fox
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Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
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of the most fascinating things about mo Bamba, not his size,
his wingspan, his length, his incredible upside. It's the fact
that he's the highest draft pick at of New York
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City in more than two decades. Like when you think
of New York City like mecca of basketball. And of
course he went to prep school and private school in
New Hampshire and Pennsylvania before going to the University of Texas,
so you don't think of him as a New Yorker.
But to grow up in New York, born in New York,
grew up in New York and then become a lottery
pick in the top five pick and the highest traft
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pick in nearly two decades, really Markable Mobama joined us
in the Doug Gatlum Show on Fox Sports Radio. Congratulations,
what's the last twelve hours been? Like? It's been awesome.
It's there's no way to explain Field because life has
officially come back into full circle. And you grew up
in New York, and you know, you watched the draft
and you watch everything, and then obviously I moved around
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and and did things away from the city. But in
the end Draft night in New York, it's just can
you believe it? Yeah, it's crazy. Okay, So you woke
up yesterday, where did you think? Honestly, where did you
think you were going to go play? I had no
clue because there were so many different speculations about teams
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straightened up and you know teams that, like me with
the Knicks last second was a bit like overwhelming, and
you know, but I didn't really have a good, good,
good steel for any anything. Okay, but you had to
think like Nick's or Dallas, right like? That was that
was the That was the long held rumor, Nick's or Dallas,
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wasn't it Nick's. I didn't know that Nick was a
rumor until you know, I actually met with them. Uh No,
I didn't say anything anything. He didn't really give give
too much information. Um, but I knew Orlando was always
crazy about me, so I obviously looked at here is
a pretty spot that I can very much on that
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What what is it actually like to get that call
to know that you're you are? Like? What what is
that moment like? Um? You know, I didn't find out
till till the pike to the It was like cameras
that came over had pretty good idea that they're maybe
gonna take me. Um, but it was you know, I
guess that words can't really explain how its Mobamba joining
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us in the Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio now
a member of the Orlando Magic. Of course, everybody talks
to about your length, your upside. Do you ever grow
tired of the hey, dude, stick at your arms, let
me see how big your wingspan is? Nope, No, not
at all, because it's a blessing. Honestly, you know, to
be able to have these guys given given tools and
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he's got given shrimps, it I can't really can't really complain.
You know, it's interesting. I've seen some of your workouts
which you've posted with Drew Handlon online and a lot
of it is perimeter work, and there's this kind of
there's there's this discussion with NBA people, do we put
him inside, you know, where he can finish and dunk
on people, or do we let him go outside because
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you can shoot and you're continuing to improve as a
perimeter player. What do the Orlando Magic said about how
they want to use you? You You know, you were just
saying that, I was just thinking why I move u. Um.
They they've gotten guys like, they've gotten guys who can
play inside out and that I can be very special
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because the blueprint there. It's it's fascinating because your first
who's the first basketball coach you can remember growing up
in New York? H was actually my first basketball coach?
Who love Okay, so Grier loves your coach. And I
will bet I could be wrong, but I will bet
most of your coaches growing up were like, hey, big guy,
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get inside, right, that's get inside and we'll throw you
the ball. And now you're going to the NBA wherever,
it's like, dude, you gotta have to get outside and
shoot threes. Well, it's the direction of the league, the
direction of the league is kind of heading in and
you don't want to be behind on times. And this
was something that was that I always had in my
back pocket. But it was just a matter of reaching
back there and getting it. How um, did you just
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get hiccups on me? Yeah? I did a spicy food
drinking soda? What cause? Or just or you you're just
nervous about coming on the radio. Let's just be there
coming in the radio, fair enough, my Mobama joining us
on the Doug Gottlief Show. You know there's this other
thing about Orlando, right, it's the place where Hall of
Fame big guys get started, Shack, Dwight Howard, now Bobamba.
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Have you thought about that connection? I have not, but
it's it's uh, I'm honestly joking up. Obviously, you know
the history of the organization with you know, Shock and Deite.
But what people don't really see you when you tell
you peel a layer back. You know, those guys really
had had a unique personality and that's something that I'm
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I'm hoping to bring to the city. Okay, so are
you gonna be You're gonna play like the next Shazam?
Is that? What is that? What you're planning on. Uh,
not quite. I think I was doing work on the
floor before still of that, Moham Obama joining us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, there's
been a ton of discussion about about DeAndre Ayton. He's
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gone number one overall, and what I said was like, look,
I think he's great in the low post. He can
shoot outside, but you're actually more fluid outside and some
believe you have a greater ceiling in the end. Be
a how competitive are you with Adan specifically and with
a couple of the other big guys as we go
forward in the league? Well, me and DeAndre been planning
gainst each other since high school and you know, he
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can even test for it. Most have been some of
the best games to sort of watch from just like
how much we compete it Like those were those are
truly battles, you know, four and all against you know,
but they've they've been battles, and he really brings out
the best of me, and I believe I really bring
out the best of him. Hey, well listen, congratulations on
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being drafted. Uh, we'll let you get going to know,
it's a crazy day. Lots of interviews, lots of handshaking,
but this is respect that's earned. Best of lucky in
Summer League. And thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you,
thanks having me. All right, that's Mohammed Bambala joining us.
Clearly nervous about being on the show with us. And
that's that's that's that's my big My big takeaway was
he was nervous about being on the show. Be sure
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to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the my Heart Radio app. Let's welcome
to Nick Bob from Fox Sports one a college basketball
and let's like myself and uh, Nick, you you don't
like it when summer concerts somebody comes to Omaha and
they start playing songs for a new album. Do you
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no non play the hits? I mean no, no, Stani
Lane play the hits. I'm totally with you. I like
that analogy. I might steal that one. I like that
a lot. What was the biggest surprise last night for you?
I mean, I think you have to probably say I'm
gonna talk out of both sides whim up. But I
think you're probably gonna have to say, Michael Porter Jr.
Just because of like, on one hand, the talent that
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you know is there. I mean, this is a dude
that is a you know, top five at worst top
ten talent. For him to fall the way he did,
that kind of felt like that was the defining story
of the of the first round. Which also get it,
I mean, bad backs and big, big guys are a
concerning combination, so you can understand why there was some
some concern and why he fell. But I mean, let's
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be honest, Doug, You've seen this guy play like if
he if he stays healthy, this guy is really really good.
I mean he could be. He's an all star level
type of player with his size and skill and ability
to shoot. And I think it just got to the
point where Denver Price thought, you know, there's that whole
best available versus you know, fit and all those things.
It's like you're sitting there at fourteen. You've got a
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guy in Michael Porter Jr. Sitting there You're like, we
gotta do this, we gotta make this happen. So to me,
just because you're talking about a guy, I mean, if
if he were eligible last year, he might have been
selected in the top ten last year and he falls
to fourteen to to Denver. To me, that was kind
of the defining, stunning story of the first round. Who's
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gonna be the best player this year? This year in
the NBA. Oh, Marvin Bagley, Right, I mean, Marvin Bagley
is the guy if if you if you're looking for
the most ready may dude to step in the league
and get buckets and be able to rebound and and
bring at night in and night out, it's Marvin Bagley.
I mean, I do have my concern Earns. I think
you can develop bad habits. You know this Doug when
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you're just sitting in his zone all year. You know
that's sometimes that's just the lazy way out of of
of defending. But ultimately you have Wendell Carter and Marvin Bagley.
You're like, we gotta play these guys at the same time.
We'll send the two three zone whatever. Uh. But he's
the guy that I think he'll have to catch up
on some things with rotations defensively and been able to
slide his feet and all those sorts of things because
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he's just guarden an area in that zone. But he's awesome.
I mean, he he is. He's a really good player.
I think he's gonna be able to step in and
score and be productive right away. He'd be my first
right now. Gun in my head, if I'm picking a
rookie of the year, that's where I'm over. Yeah, I
would say it's him or Trey Young's two things that
the one thing in Trey has going for him back
they has a little bit is you're playing a bad team,
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You're gonna play more, and you're gonna get the ball.
More you gotta get in order to score. You gotta
get the ball. You gotta get minutes. And I think
that Atlanta they're gonna turn the ball over to Trey Young.
I don't think Trey Young is gonna be the best player,
but I do think he could be Rookie of the
Year because he'll he'll have some nights where he puts
up crazy numbers hitting all those shots. Yeah, I mean anymore.
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Oftentimes basketball is kind of predator predicated on you know,
high on ball screen. What are you doing with it right?
And how messy is the defense gonna get when we
set that high on ball screen or random drag ball
screens In transition, That's what step is so good at
I mean you his point of pickups got to be
at about you know, thirty feet. That's a long ways
extended from the basket. You set a ball screen, you
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might force a switch, you might create a hedge and
a double. Now you're playing four on three if he
can throw out of it. So he's gonna be a
guy that's gonna be able to make things happen just
because of the predicament he puts you in those high
on ball screens. And I'm totally with you. I mean,
he might put up a lot of empty stats this year.
I mean, he might have some games where he goes
for for for forty just because he's that kind of
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a shooter. But but time will tell on how much
he can kind of develop his body, how he can
learn to uh, to hang in there defensively for lack
of a better term. But listen, Trey Young, It's it's
one of those things that we we kind of like
to slide a guy into a microscope and kill him
a little bit. Uh. You know, he was a guy
that was the most electric guy in college basketball this year,
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and he can score, so it'll be it'll be fun
to watch him put up some big nights, but ultimately,
you know, how can you hang in there on defense?
Going to kind of define his career. I tend to
agree with you. Stug otlip Show Fox Sports Trader, that's
voice of Nick Bob. Of course, he has his own
radio show in Omaha. Many of you know that he
yells was on Fox Sports one um and you can
follow him on Twitter, part of the Twitter Fox Sports
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College Basketball twitter feed. Okay, so you mentioned then Marvin
Bagley will be the best player right away? DeAndre went
number one overall. I said, look, I know that Phoenix
needs a center. I guess you know Jonathan Bender was
I mean, what say Dragon? Bender was actually pretty good
this year. I just thought Bagley was the best prospect.
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I would have taken him number one overall, especially and
this there's a little bit positional bias to which centers
don't play portions of the of of NBA games. What's
your take on who the best actual prospect would have
been if you were selecting for the Phoenix Suns. Yeah,
you know, and I'm sure you do this sometimes. So
I had to do a top five big men in
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the draft kind of little digital piece, and I put
eight in number one, and if I could have it back,
I probably would have put bad Lee number one. But
it's easy to get excited about the measurables and see
what Aton looks like. I mean, guy's a freak. I mean,
I'm sure you saw him a bunch of doing some
different things in the fact we have and being in
that part of the country, the guy is freaky. But ultimately,
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and to me it was one of the more interesting
things about the draft was, first of all, I didn't
think it was a great draft. I don't think there
are any just for sure superstars. I think there's a
bunch of good players, not great players, but it was
loaded at the top with big guys, and that just
kind of flies in the face of where basketball is headed.
I mean, you watch the playoffs, you know when when
it got to be you know, crunch time and in
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big moments in big games. Outside of Horford a little
bit capella a little bit. I mean, it was just
a lot of guards or glorified guards on the floor.
So it's it's one of the kind of sixty four
thousand dollar questions and how you're assessing eighton is he
a guy that just is coming around fifteen years twenty
years too late where he does. At least at this
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point he is your traditional five man, back to the
basket kind of guy. Now he has shown I think
he shoots like mid seventies from the free throw line,
and he can face up and shoot a little bit.
But man, until he can prove that that he can
step out and stretch the defense a little bit at
least make you think about having to run him off
the three point line. Ever, so you know a little bit.
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I think ultimately Badley was probably the safest and and
and the choice that makes the most sense at the
number one spot. Who knows how much you know, there's
a magnetic poll with him being just down the road
in Tucson, your Phoenix, it makes sense. But I think
I think it was fascinating to see how these teams
are gonna assess some of those big guys at the
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top of the draft. Nick bob joining us thought exports
college basketball analyst, Um, uh, you know, there's there's a
group of guys that didn't get drafted, the Trayvon Trayvon
du Vals of the world, the Trayvon Blewetts of the world.
A senior puts up huge numbers UM and as far
as the underclassman is concerned, they were warned by a
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lot of people about where they may slide in the draft.
Is there a way to get them back into college basketball? Like,
you know, a lot of these guys take money from
an agent, they go work out, they they they take
time away from school. Like, how do you do it
um for a kid who's not draft in terms of
trying to welcome him back, It's really complicated. I mean
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it's it's one of those things that if you're trying
to do right by the kid, it makes sense that
you should be able to do something like how major
League Baseball does it where you kind of have a
choice and whatever the case may be. But it's hard.
I mean, it's the the these these guys get bad
information or sometimes the easiest thing to do is to
tell people what they want to hear. They all want
to hear that they're gonna get drafted. So it's it's
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you're you're gonna be a little bit more eager to
hear those kinds of things. But it's hard. I think
I think it's this challenging right now. I like the
room that these guys can enter their name into the
draft advisory committee and come back. But I can tell you,
at least from being around Creighton's program, I think it
was challenging throughout the spring for what Gregmot was trying
to do with the whole Kyrie term as situation where
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there's a lot of these grad transfers that are price
in themselves. Okay, well, what's is Kyrie Thomas coming back?
Is he's gonna stay? Because you know, if I'm a
grad transfer, I'm trying to I'm trying to go into
a place where I'm gonna get a ton of minutes,
I'm gonna get a ton of shots, and if Kyrie
is there, I don't know if that's exactly what I'm
trying to do. And so I just think even those
sorts of things get challenging for the college aspect of things.
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But ultimately I do feel like we can all come together,
sit down, figure out something that satisfies all parties that
you feel like there's a handful of people that you
either got drafted late second round or didn't get drafted
at all, it feels like they should be able to
have the option to return to college. If we're ultimately
trying to do what's best for these for these kids.
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Villanova had four players drafted in the in the first round.
UM Miles Bridges I like, but I do think he's
a three in d rotation guy, maybe a fifth starter
at best. Jalen Brunson I love in college. I don't
think he's a great NBA point guard because he's more
of a mid range and a post up guy and
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black street athleticism. Um. I like Dante de Vincenzo, but
seven teams seems a bit high for a kid who
came off the bench. He's a great athlete, great athlete,
but probably an off the bench guy most of his career.
Is not a great ball handler. Uh. He made some
a ton of big shots this year, especially in the
final four. And Amari Spellman, who he got some knee issues.
He lost a lot of weight. He still gotta change
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his body. But a stretch five he went in the
first round. I guess the question is like, look, I
know you, and I've been around Villanova enough to know
they have great culture. Uh. The kids buy in in
terms of what they eat, how they play like. It's
all great. But like the NBA, some of it's about intangibles.
A lot of it's about tangibles. Do you think ultimately
they were overdrafted and and that will that will come
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back to bite teams that drafted them as high as
they did. This is gonna sound like I'm kissing you're
you're behind here, Doug, But I totally agree with you.
I mean totally agree with you. And it's hard because
I absolutely love what day Wright does. I love that
they were my favorite team to watch all year. I mean,
they were fantastic, but they are They've been inflated by
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by what they've done collectively, and they're they're really a
poster child for uh, you know, every every individual out
there of hey, you want to get drafted, go win.
You know, it's the rising tide lifts all ships kind
of a thing. Team success breeds individual success. I've watched
Bridges and Deevin Nzo a ton good players, very very
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good players. I think they're the you know, the tenth
pick in the seven team pick. No way. I mean,
I think Deeven Chinzo found a way to kind of
ride the wave of the one point performance in the
National title game. I think there's a big difference between
being a team's focal point of a defensive scantner report
and being just a guy that comes off the bench
as a rotational player even in college. Uh. But don't
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get me wrong, I feel like I'm they're they're good players. Uh,
they're they're overvalued. I'm not so sure that Spellman wasn't
the long term best prospect just because he's still young,
he's developing. Uh, he does have the knee issues, but
I just think he fits in what you want in
a big day. Um. And and then Brunson is what
he is. You know, he's a you know, Fred Van
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Fleet kind of a guy off the guard, be solid
for you. He's not ever going to really be a
totally difference maker guy of for your franchise. But totally
agree with you. Totally agree with you. I think some
of those Nova guys got inflated just because they were
a part of such a great culture and they won
so many games that ultimately you win enough, you play
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enough games, you get hot in the right moment, and
you're the next Donte DiVincenzo, who people kind of get
way too excited about about being a guy that goes
in the top twenty. He's Nick bab He's the King
of Omaha. He joins us in the Doug gott Leaves Show.
We'll talk to h Man. You got a dog man,
appreciate it. Have a happy summer, Nick, Nick Bob Fox
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Sports and of course has his own show. He's a
really really good host on Omaha Radio and a good friend.
This is the best of the Doug gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. One Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope. You're ready for a great,
great sports weekend. Um. Look, we had last night's NBA
Draft coverage, which I thought was outstanding on Fox Sports Radio,
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including Chris Bruce sard Uh saying a little something about
the Chris Paul extension that everyone thought was done might
not be done. Plus we got the Jamis Winston being
suspended for what exactly. Um, we'll we'll dig in on
the Denver Nuggets as their Jenner manager. Our tourist Carnisiatists,
(00:46):
of course, played at Seton Hall back in the early nineties,
will be our guest. Evan Daniels will join us. We'll
talk about some of the guys, some of the lauded
college basketball players who are not selected, and some of
the surprises of last night. Um, and we'll also talk
about the Calves and Lebron. We got us, we got
We're just jam packed here. Rick Buker is gonna join us,
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Nick Bob is gonna join us. Man, we got a
good show for you. Um, it is the summer season
I hope you're having a great summer. It was the
waning days of spring. Now it's officially summer. I've spent
the past couple of days here in the northeast city
of Boston trying to figure out what's what with Boston Celtics.
Got a chance to be around the organization a little
(01:27):
bit today they got a new practice facility. Was spectacular. Meanwhile,
uh so spring summer has sprung here. If you will,
it is absolutely gorgeous in Boston Commons. Wherever you are,
I hope you're headed out to a lake of beach, mountain, whatever,
get outside. It's if it's great. We're watching the World Cup. Man,
how good was Nigeria today? But um, with summer comes
(01:51):
the concert season. My buddy of mine went to see
uh Darius Rucker last night in Tulsa and Darius that
tries to face time me at like one in the morning. Dude,
I'm on the East not the West Coast. I love
my boy Darius. I love going to concerts. There are
certain concerts that I try and go to every year.
I'm one of those guys. Now I don't love, um
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what I I don't love about some of my my
favorite artists are two things. One I hate um. I
hate when they're like compilations, when they when like like
mush a bunch of songs together. But the thing that
is the hardest, the absolute hardest to take in when
you're at a concert is this one's from our new album, right.
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I remember this YouTube played in um Boston Garden last night.
I didn't go. We if you've ever been to Boston,
we went to the North Side, great Italian food, went
to dinner, was amazing, watching the NBA Draft, eating, drinking
some wine, breaking some stories on Twitter. It was fun.
But I went to the you too. I think it
was Pop Mart tour. Ramos probably remembers it because he
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was around Los Angeles at the time. It was in
the mid nineties. It was one of their few albums
that didn't do well, and I remember that anything he
played streets had no name all the at the time
the lighters came out. Now everybody obviously does the cell phones.
But when they said this is from the Pop Mart album,
that's when you went and got a beer. That's when
you went and took a leak. That's when he sat
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down and you talked to the people next to you right.
I remember, Um, I've I've heard so many different bands
in concert, so many um, but I remember it was
the It was the very first national tour National tour
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um for the Zach Brown Band, and I was in
Hartford at the time, and I went to the concert. Now,
Zach Brown Band had previously opened for Dave Matthews Hand
and Z B B. If you've ever seen them in concert,
you know this to be truth. They got a little
they got a little grateful dead to them, right. They're
all super talented musicians. One of the worst looking groups
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of men as well. They're like the country version of
boys to men, right, Like if it wasn't for music,
they wouldn't get any ladies. You put an instrument in
somebody's hand, you put them on stage, and the ladies flock.
I can't tell you what it is, it's just the
way it is. But Zach Brown Band has a little
bit of that grateful dead Dave Matthews Band. Every song
(04:33):
becomes ten twelve minutes, every instrument has a solo, and
men are they talented musicians? And man, it's getting late.
It was a Sunday night in Hartford, open air, beautiful
night and uh when they played was a Chicken Fried?
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I was jamming. I was jamming. But when they played
songs from their new album, considering they only had one
album out at the time, I was lost. It wasn't
just it wasn't just that they were playing songs from
an album. I didn't know. It was that they're playing
songs from an album. I didn't know. That took way
(05:14):
too long. All right, you want to play compilation, Play
compilation of the new stuff. Play the one hit that's
on the radio from the new thing. Matter of fact,
if you only had four hits, which they only had
about four at the time, just play those in repeat.
But it got long, he got drawn out. And I'll
be honest with you, I want a good concert. It wasn't.
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I've had the opportunity see Zach Brown Band about ten
times over since then, and now they have an incredible
depth of music to deliver on. And I have no
doubt that those of you who go and see ZBB
and concert, like, dude, you're missing out. It's a great show.
They're up there for three hours. First of all, it's like, sorry,
(05:55):
Bruce Springsteen fans, when you tell me that Bruce is
up the boss is up there for three hours. That
doesn't make me want to go see Springsteen, doesn't. I'm
not a Springsteen guy, and I'm just not a three
hour concert guy. I'm not a three hour movie guy.
I'm not a three hour anything guy. I get a
d D at the fourteenth hole. Anyway, My point is,
once you start going to this is from our new album,
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it's time to get a drink, time to get a coke,
time to get a beer, time to take a leak,
time to talk sweetly to the to the things sitting
next to you. Right, that's what happened last night with
the NBA draft. All of these guys in the new
album thirteen of the first eighteen picks are one and
dunes thirteen of eighteen. It's not that they're not ultimately
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going to be good. It's that you're telling us, trust me,
they're gonna be good when we're First, we have numbers
to point out that there's a good percentage of them
that won't be great. Secondly, even if the song is good,
if we just haven't heard it enough, if we haven't
adjusted our ears to it, it takes a while. We
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don't know the lyrics, we don't know the melody. We
don't know the beat, we don't know the hook, we
don't know these kids. I do, but that's because that's
what I've done for fifteen years, and I love it.
But I'm also so reasonable, and I gotta tell you,
the NBA Draft used to be really cool. It used
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to be really cool. I don't know when that moment
was that it wasn't that cool. But the perfect example
of how it's trying to be cool again was they
did player introductions last night. That's what they did. They admitted, Man,
we're not cool. Man, we gott alive in this thing up.
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Let's do what's the coolest thing about basketball? Well, outside
of slam dunks and three point shots, which will show
on video, it's player intros. All we needed was, guys,
was slacks to have tearaway pants, and you would have
had the whole thing. The problem with the with the
intros is it sounded a lot better in the boardroom
than it played out on TV. I have no doubt
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there's gonna be some good players. I have some thoughts
on each team. I'll share them with you throughout the
next three hours. You have any questions eight seven, seven,
nine nine, Fox or feel to tweet me. Feel free
to tweet me. At Gottlieb Show, we can even talk
about the guys that didn't get drafted last night and
why they didn't get drafted last night. But man, there
used to be network TV used to be cool, pay
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phones used to exist, and back when all that happened,
the NBA draft used to be a what's what and
who's who? You had to watch because and what's the
real reason? You knew him? You knew Patrick Ewing, you
knew Larry Johnson, you knew Christian Lightner and Bobby Hurley,
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Hecky even new Grant Hill. You go through guys and
the more you knew them, the more you felt attached
to them. It's the same with music. It's the same
with music. It doesn't matter how good this song is.
You might think that's gonna be a hit, but until
it's a hit, until it hits number one on the charts,
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it's really hard for me to start memorizing it and
knowing it and and you may even think it's what
We play out the top songs on Top four the radio.
They probably do ed Shearon's Perfect has played so many
times over the past year or so that it's a completely,
perfectly imperfect song. I want to scream every time I
hear it, but the point is simple, just like summer music,
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when you go to hear it and it's this is
from our new album. The NBA draft is too many
new albums, too many new players. Michael Porter Jr. Who
will talk about with our next guest, the general manager
of the Denver Nuggets, who felt to them at fourteen,
was a top five high school American and suffered an injury.
(09:59):
There's him talk that he might not play much at
all this year, but because you didn't see him, you
have to take everybody's word for it. Trust me, this
is gonna be a hit and after a couple hours.
Like my first Zack Brown been experience, it's hard to
listen to because you don't know it. Be sure to
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catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. There are some things
that are seen as a foregone conclusion, but it's not
really foregone that that's the conclusion should not be foregone.
The perfect example of that is that Chris Chris Paul
is going to resign with the Houston Rockets. Now, Look,
(10:44):
I I offered up when Lebron season was over. Why
can't he go to the Lakers? Why can't he bring
Chris Paul with him? I don't think that's ultimately the
home for UH. For I don't think the Clippers would
be an option because I just don't think Lebron goes
to the Clippers, even though, hey, look it is Jerry West,
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and Jerry West has shown and Jerry West did a
great job of the draft last night, expect I thought outstanding.
I love Jerome Robinson and I like Shay Giltish Alexander
from Kentucky. Has two good guards to build the future
of your back court. But why can't Chris Paul, who
should have been a Laker if not for the trade
(11:28):
being overturned by UH by David Stern back in the day,
should have been a Laker already. Take a listen to
what Cris Broussard said on the Herd earlier today in
regards to Chris Paul in a situation in Houston. What
I'm hearing is that there's tension now between Houston and
Chris Paul, not irreparable tension, But there's some tension because
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there was obviously a handshake wink wink. However you want
to describe it, deal or agreement between Chris and Houston
when he left four years a hundred seventy five million
dollars on the table with the Clippers. You don't leave
that type of money on the table unless they're like, look,
we're gonna take care of if you don't worry. Blah
blah blah. So what's that mean? Now? Look, the the out,
(12:15):
the clever out for the Houston Rockets front office is, hey, man,
we're under new ownership, right, We're under new ownership, and
I'd love to do it, but my boss says it's
not a smart plan. And remember, as much as you
can say, hey, Chris Paul gave up all this money,
(12:36):
think about all the players that Houston gave up to
get Chris Paul. And in defense of the Rockets first,
handshake agreements or not agreements, as we've seen before. Second,
wasn't Chris Paul hurt at the most important time, the
one time of year which he was brought in for,
right the series against the Golden State Wars. And it
doesn't mean that it was his fault that he was hurt,
(12:57):
but he was in fact hurt. He was so I
understand if Chris Paul is bitter that they haven't just
automatically a we're automatically gonna resign you to the max
contract you can get for as many years as possible
late in your career. But I also understand what the
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Rockets are doing. And if you're the Lakers and you
hear this, it's music to your ears. What do we
gotta do to get Chris Paul here? Because Lebron has
always wanted to play with Chris Paul, and Chris Paul
has always won't want to win a title, and he
always wanted to be a Laker even when he was
a Clipper. It doesn't mean it's going to happen. It
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just means that anytime you think it's a done deal
until the ink is dry, lasting final does not mean
last and final. Remember that, guys, when you're negotiating a deal,
last and final. Perfect example, did you see uh Foxes
other you know, all Foxes movie vault and other stuff
was was sold to Do you know the Disney agreement
(14:02):
was reached like four or five months ago and then
what happened. Comcast came in and said, like, well, you
know what, we can make an all cash offer, make
a better offer. So you know what happened. Disney paid
even more money. Do you know why? Because last and
final is not last and final, and the handshake agreement
is not the agreement in agreement is an agreement. Fox
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Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. Here's one
of the most fascinating things about mo Bamba, not his size,
his wingspan, his length, his incredible upside. It's the fact
that he's the highest draft pick at of New York
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City in more than two decades. Like when you think
of New York City like mecca of basketball. And of
course he went to prep school and private school in
New Hampshire and Pennsylvania before going to the University of Texas,
so you don't think of him as a New Yorker.
But to grow up in New York, born in New York,
grew up in New York and then become a lottery
pick in the top five pick and the highest traft
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pick in nearly two decades, really Markable Mobama joined us
in the Doug Gatlum Show on Fox Sports Radio. Congratulations,
what's the last twelve hours been? Like? It's been awesome.
It's there's no way to explain Field because life has
officially come back into full circle. And you grew up
in New York, and you know, you watched the draft
and you watch everything, and then obviously I moved around
(15:28):
and and did things away from the city. But in
the end Draft night in New York, it's just can
you believe it? Yeah, it's crazy. Okay, So you woke
up yesterday, where did you think? Honestly, where did you
think you were going to go play? I had no
clue because there were so many different speculations about teams
(15:48):
straightened up and you know teams that, like me with
the Knicks last second was a bit like overwhelming, and
you know, but I didn't really have a good, good,
good steel for any anything. Okay, but you had to
think like Nick's or Dallas, right like? That was that
was the That was the long held rumor, Nick's or Dallas,
(16:08):
wasn't it Nick's. I didn't know that Nick was a
rumor until you know, I actually met with them. Uh No,
I didn't say anything anything. He didn't really give give
too much information. Um, but I knew Orlando was always
crazy about me, so I obviously looked at here is
a pretty spot that I can very much on that
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What what is it actually like to get that call
to know that you're you are? Like? What what is
that moment like? Um? You know, I didn't find out
till till the pike to the It was like cameras
that came over had pretty good idea that they're maybe
gonna take me. Um, but it was you know, I
guess that words can't really explain how its Mobamba joining
(16:53):
us in the Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio now
a member of the Orlando Magic. Of course, everybody talks
to about your length, your upside. Do you ever grow
tired of the hey, dude, stick at your arms, let
me see how big your wingspan is? Nope, No, not
at all, because it's a blessing. Honestly, you know, to
be able to have these guys given given tools and
(17:16):
he's got given shrimps, it I can't really can't really complain.
You know, it's interesting. I've seen some of your workouts
which you've posted with Drew Handlon online and a lot
of it is perimeter work, and there's this kind of
there's there's this discussion with NBA people, do we put
him inside, you know, where he can finish and dunk
on people, or do we let him go outside because
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you can shoot and you're continuing to improve as a
perimeter player. What do the Orlando Magic said about how
they want to use you? You You know, you were just
saying that, I was just thinking why I move u. Um.
They they've gotten guys like, they've gotten guys who can
play inside out and that I can be very special
(17:58):
because the blueprint there. It's it's fascinating because your first
who's the first basketball coach you can remember growing up
in New York? H was actually my first basketball coach?
Who love Okay, so Grier loves your coach. And I
will bet I could be wrong, but I will bet
most of your coaches growing up were like, hey, big guy,
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get inside, right, that's get inside and we'll throw you
the ball. And now you're going to the NBA wherever,
it's like, dude, you gotta have to get outside and
shoot threes. Well, it's the direction of the league, the
direction of the league is kind of heading in and
you don't want to be behind on times. And this
was something that was that I always had in my
back pocket. But it was just a matter of reaching
back there and getting it. How um, did you just
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get hiccups on me? Yeah? I did a spicy food
drinking soda? What cause? Or just or you you're just
nervous about coming on the radio. Let's just be there
coming in the radio, fair enough, my Mobama joining us
on the Doug Gottlief Show. You know there's this other
thing about Orlando, right, it's the place where Hall of
Fame big guys get started, Shack, Dwight Howard, now Bobamba.
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Have you thought about that connection? I have not, but
it's it's uh, I'm honestly joking up. Obviously, you know
the history of the organization with you know, Shock and Deite.
But what people don't really see you when you tell
you peel a layer back. You know, those guys really
had had a unique personality and that's something that I'm
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I'm hoping to bring to the city. Okay, so are
you gonna be You're gonna play like the next Shazam?
Is that? What is that? What you're planning on. Uh,
not quite. I think I was doing work on the
floor before still of that, Moham Obama joining us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, there's
been a ton of discussion about about DeAndre Ayton. He's
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gone number one overall, and what I said was like, look,
I think he's great in the low post. He can
shoot outside, but you're actually more fluid outside and some
believe you have a greater ceiling in the end. Be
a how competitive are you with Adan specifically and with
a couple of the other big guys as we go
forward in the league? Well, me and DeAndre been planning
gainst each other since high school and you know, he
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can even test for it. Most have been some of
the best games to sort of watch from just like
how much we compete it Like those were those are
truly battles, you know, four and all against you know,
but they've they've been battles, and he really brings out
the best of me, and I believe I really bring
out the best of him. Hey, well listen, congratulations on
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being drafted. Uh, we'll let you get going to know,
it's a crazy day. Lots of interviews, lots of handshaking,
but this is respect that's earned. Best of lucky in
Summer League. And thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you,
thanks having me. All right, that's Mohammed Bambala joining us.
Clearly nervous about being on the show with us. And
that's that's that's that's my big My big takeaway was
he was nervous about being on the show. Be sure
(20:53):
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the my Heart Radio app. Let's welcome
to Nick Bob from Fox Sports one a college basketball
and let's like myself and uh, Nick, you you don't
like it when summer concerts somebody comes to Omaha and
they start playing songs for a new album. Do you
(21:15):
no non play the hits? I mean no, no, Stani
Lane play the hits. I'm totally with you. I like
that analogy. I might steal that one. I like that
a lot. What was the biggest surprise last night for you?
I mean, I think you have to probably say I'm
gonna talk out of both sides whim up. But I
think you're probably gonna have to say, Michael Porter Jr.
Just because of like, on one hand, the talent that
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you know is there. I mean, this is a dude
that is a you know, top five at worst top
ten talent. For him to fall the way he did,
that kind of felt like that was the defining story
of the of the first round. Which also get it,
I mean, bad backs and big, big guys are a
concerning combination, so you can understand why there was some
some concern and why he fell. But I mean, let's
(21:59):
be honest, Doug, You've seen this guy play like if
he if he stays healthy, this guy is really really good.
I mean he could be. He's an all star level
type of player with his size and skill and ability
to shoot. And I think it just got to the
point where Denver Price thought, you know, there's that whole
best available versus you know, fit and all those things.
It's like you're sitting there at fourteen. You've got a
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guy in Michael Porter Jr. Sitting there You're like, we
gotta do this, we gotta make this happen. So to me,
just because you're talking about a guy, I mean, if
if he were eligible last year, he might have been
selected in the top ten last year and he falls
to fourteen to to Denver. To me, that was kind
of the defining, stunning story of the first round. Who's
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gonna be the best player this year? This year in
the NBA. Oh, Marvin Bagley, Right, I mean, Marvin Bagley
is the guy if if you if you're looking for
the most ready may dude to step in the league
and get buckets and be able to rebound and and
bring at night in and night out, it's Marvin Bagley.
I mean, I do have my concern Earns. I think
you can develop bad habits. You know this Doug when
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you're just sitting in his zone all year. You know
that's sometimes that's just the lazy way out of of
of defending. But ultimately you have Wendell Carter and Marvin Bagley.
You're like, we gotta play these guys at the same time.
We'll send the two three zone whatever. Uh. But he's
the guy that I think he'll have to catch up
on some things with rotations defensively and been able to
slide his feet and all those sorts of things because
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he's just guarden an area in that zone. But he's awesome.
I mean, he he is. He's a really good player.
I think he's gonna be able to step in and
score and be productive right away. He'd be my first
right now. Gun in my head, if I'm picking a
rookie of the year, that's where I'm over. Yeah, I
would say it's him or Trey Young's two things that
the one thing in Trey has going for him back
they has a little bit is you're playing a bad team,
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You're gonna play more, and you're gonna get the ball.
More you gotta get in order to score. You gotta
get the ball. You gotta get minutes. And I think
that Atlanta they're gonna turn the ball over to Trey Young.
I don't think Trey Young is gonna be the best player,
but I do think he could be Rookie of the
Year because he'll he'll have some nights where he puts
up crazy numbers hitting all those shots. Yeah, I mean anymore.
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Oftentimes basketball is kind of predator predicated on you know,
high on ball screen. What are you doing with it right?
And how messy is the defense gonna get when we
set that high on ball screen or random drag ball
screens In transition, That's what step is so good at
I mean you his point of pickups got to be
at about you know, thirty feet. That's a long ways
extended from the basket. You set a ball screen, you
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might force a switch, you might create a hedge and
a double. Now you're playing four on three if he
can throw out of it. So he's gonna be a
guy that's gonna be able to make things happen just
because of the predicament he puts you in those high
on ball screens. And I'm totally with you. I mean,
he might put up a lot of empty stats this year.
I mean, he might have some games where he goes
for for for forty just because he's that kind of
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a shooter. But but time will tell on how much
he can kind of develop his body, how he can
learn to uh, to hang in there defensively for lack
of a better term. But listen, Trey Young, It's it's
one of those things that we we kind of like
to slide a guy into a microscope and kill him
a little bit. Uh. You know, he was a guy
that was the most electric guy in college basketball this year,
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and he can score, so it'll be it'll be fun
to watch him put up some big nights, but ultimately,
you know, how can you hang in there on defense?
Going to kind of define his career. I tend to
agree with you. Stug otlip Show Fox Sports Trader, that's
voice of Nick Bob. Of course, he has his own
radio show in Omaha. Many of you know that he
yells was on Fox Sports one um and you can
follow him on Twitter, part of the Twitter Fox Sports
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College Basketball twitter feed. Okay, so you mentioned then Marvin
Bagley will be the best player right away? DeAndre went
number one overall. I said, look, I know that Phoenix
needs a center. I guess you know Jonathan Bender was
I mean, what say Dragon? Bender was actually pretty good
this year. I just thought Bagley was the best prospect.
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I would have taken him number one overall, especially and
this there's a little bit positional bias to which centers
don't play portions of the of of NBA games. What's
your take on who the best actual prospect would have
been if you were selecting for the Phoenix Suns. Yeah,
you know, and I'm sure you do this sometimes. So
I had to do a top five big men in
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the draft kind of little digital piece, and I put
eight in number one, and if I could have it back,
I probably would have put bad Lee number one. But
it's easy to get excited about the measurables and see
what Aton looks like. I mean, guy's a freak. I mean,
I'm sure you saw him a bunch of doing some
different things in the fact we have and being in
that part of the country, the guy is freaky. But ultimately,
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and to me it was one of the more interesting
things about the draft was, first of all, I didn't
think it was a great draft. I don't think there
are any just for sure superstars. I think there's a
bunch of good players, not great players, but it was
loaded at the top with big guys, and that just
kind of flies in the face of where basketball is headed.
I mean, you watch the playoffs, you know when when
it got to be you know, crunch time and in
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big moments in big games. Outside of Horford a little
bit capella a little bit. I mean, it was just
a lot of guards or glorified guards on the floor.
So it's it's one of the kind of sixty four
thousand dollar questions and how you're assessing eighton is he
a guy that just is coming around fifteen years twenty
years too late where he does. At least at this
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point he is your traditional five man, back to the
basket kind of guy. Now he has shown I think
he shoots like mid seventies from the free throw line,
and he can face up and shoot a little bit.
But man, until he can prove that that he can
step out and stretch the defense a little bit at
least make you think about having to run him off
the three point line. Ever, so you know a little bit.
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I think ultimately Badley was probably the safest and and
and the choice that makes the most sense at the
number one spot. Who knows how much you know, there's
a magnetic poll with him being just down the road
in Tucson, your Phoenix, it makes sense. But I think
I think it was fascinating to see how these teams
are gonna assess some of those big guys at the
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top of the draft. Nick bob joining us thought exports
college basketball analyst, Um, uh, you know, there's there's a
group of guys that didn't get drafted, the Trayvon Trayvon
du Vals of the world, the Trayvon Blewetts of the world.
A senior puts up huge numbers UM and as far
as the underclassman is concerned, they were warned by a
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lot of people about where they may slide in the draft.
Is there a way to get them back into college basketball? Like,
you know, a lot of these guys take money from
an agent, they go work out, they they they take
time away from school. Like, how do you do it
um for a kid who's not draft in terms of
trying to welcome him back, It's really complicated. I mean
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it's it's one of those things that if you're trying
to do right by the kid, it makes sense that
you should be able to do something like how major
League Baseball does it where you kind of have a
choice and whatever the case may be. But it's hard.
I mean, it's the the these these guys get bad
information or sometimes the easiest thing to do is to
tell people what they want to hear. They all want
to hear that they're gonna get drafted. So it's it's
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you're you're gonna be a little bit more eager to
hear those kinds of things. But it's hard. I think
I think it's this challenging right now. I like the
room that these guys can enter their name into the
draft advisory committee and come back. But I can tell you,
at least from being around Creighton's program, I think it
was challenging throughout the spring for what Gregmot was trying
to do with the whole Kyrie term as situation where
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there's a lot of these grad transfers that are price
in themselves. Okay, well, what's is Kyrie Thomas coming back?
Is he's gonna stay? Because you know, if I'm a
grad transfer, I'm trying to I'm trying to go into
a place where I'm gonna get a ton of minutes,
I'm gonna get a ton of shots, and if Kyrie
is there, I don't know if that's exactly what I'm
trying to do. And so I just think even those
sorts of things get challenging for the college aspect of things.
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But ultimately I do feel like we can all come together,
sit down, figure out something that satisfies all parties that
you feel like there's a handful of people that you
either got drafted late second round or didn't get drafted
at all, it feels like they should be able to
have the option to return to college. If we're ultimately
trying to do what's best for these for these kids.
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Villanova had four players drafted in the in the first round.
UM Miles Bridges I like, but I do think he's
a three in d rotation guy, maybe a fifth starter
at best. Jalen Brunson I love in college. I don't
think he's a great NBA point guard because he's more
of a mid range and a post up guy and
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black street athleticism. Um. I like Dante de Vincenzo, but
seven teams seems a bit high for a kid who
came off the bench. He's a great athlete, great athlete,
but probably an off the bench guy most of his career.
Is not a great ball handler. Uh. He made some
a ton of big shots this year, especially in the
final four. And Amari Spellman, who he got some knee issues.
He lost a lot of weight. He still gotta change
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his body. But a stretch five he went in the
first round. I guess the question is like, look, I
know you, and I've been around Villanova enough to know
they have great culture. Uh. The kids buy in in
terms of what they eat, how they play like. It's
all great. But like the NBA, some of it's about intangibles.
A lot of it's about tangibles. Do you think ultimately
they were overdrafted and and that will that will come
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back to bite teams that drafted them as high as
they did. This is gonna sound like I'm kissing you're
you're behind here, Doug, But I totally agree with you.
I mean totally agree with you. And it's hard because
I absolutely love what day Wright does. I love that
they were my favorite team to watch all year. I mean,
they were fantastic, but they are They've been inflated by
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by what they've done collectively, and they're they're really a
poster child for uh, you know, every every individual out
there of hey, you want to get drafted, go win.
You know, it's the rising tide lifts all ships kind
of a thing. Team success breeds individual success. I've watched
Bridges and Deevin Nzo a ton good players, very very
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good players. I think they're the you know, the tenth
pick in the seven team pick. No way. I mean,
I think Deeven Chinzo found a way to kind of
ride the wave of the one point performance in the
National title game. I think there's a big difference between
being a team's focal point of a defensive scantner report
and being just a guy that comes off the bench
as a rotational player even in college. Uh. But don't
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get me wrong, I feel like I'm they're they're good players. Uh,
they're they're overvalued. I'm not so sure that Spellman wasn't
the long term best prospect just because he's still young,
he's developing. Uh, he does have the knee issues, but
I just think he fits in what you want in
a big day. Um. And and then Brunson is what
he is. You know, he's a you know, Fred Van
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Fleet kind of a guy off the guard, be solid
for you. He's not ever going to really be a
totally difference maker guy of for your franchise. But totally
agree with you. Totally agree with you. I think some
of those Nova guys got inflated just because they were
a part of such a great culture and they won
so many games that ultimately you win enough, you play
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enough games, you get hot in the right moment, and
you're the next Donte DiVincenzo, who people kind of get
way too excited about about being a guy that goes
in the top twenty. He's Nick bab He's the King
of Omaha. He joins us in the Doug gott Leaves Show.
We'll talk to h Man. You got a dog man,
appreciate it. Have a happy summer, Nick, Nick Bob Fox
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Sports and of course has his own show. He's a
really really good host on Omaha Radio and a good friend.
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