September 17, 2025 • 39 mins
On this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss Dabo Swinney's situation at Clemson. Doug reacts to what an Eagles lineman says about all of the Tush Push Talk. Doug welcomes FOX Sports College Football analyst RJ Young onto the show to cover all of the major headlines from college football. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Young's gonna join us. He is the he has the
Number one show, which is a huge college football podcast.
He's also gigantic Oklahoma Homer Big week this week for
the Sooners. They just demolished Temple. Now they bring in Auburn. Right,
first SEC game in Auburn's quarterback was oklahoma'squarterback jack Sonarnold
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last year.
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Can't wait to talk with r J.
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Young the guy who was the next guy is now
with Auburn, and then John Mittier. Now maybe he's the
next Oklahoma quarterback to win the Heisman Trophy.
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As he is.
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I think Dampires said yesterday he's the betting favorite to
win the Heisman. Dan can definitely correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'm right. Okay, thanks Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Anyway, we'll get to some college football upcoming. Also got
to talk Tush Push. I saw something on First Things
First which I thought was absolutely brilliant, and well, we'll
play that off versus something that an Eagles offensive lineman
said about the Tush push this past week. That'll be
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Speaker 5 (02:37):
Doug, I'll take it from here. Dabo Swimmy made news.
He went viral as he's protecting his turf. I guess Dabo,
and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. They
lost a game on Saturday they that most people thought
they should have won, and they're one and two on
the season and the knives are out and Dabbo took
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time I'm yesterday to address this.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
If they want me gone, they can. If they tired
of winning, they can send me on the way, because
that's all we've done is win. So if they tired
of winning, we've had We've won this league eight out
of the last ten years. Is that not good? I'm just
asking is that good? I don't know if that's good
or not. To win your league eight out of ten
years to go to the playoffs seven out of ten years,
being four national championships and went it twice. Yeah, we
little down right. Now take your shots. But I got
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a long memory in case y'all don't know, We'll be
all right. We'll bounce back. This is a program built
to last, always has been, always will be. And I
would just say, if you give up on us, if
you don't believe on us, because we've lost two games
down to the last trade and we're wanting you didn't
believe in us anyway, so it don't matter. You wasn't
all in anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
If you all in, you burn the ships.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Man.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.
And hey listen, I mean Cumpston's tired of winning. They
send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,
and coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell them
fifty five. I got a long way to go, y'all
gonna have to deal with me for a while, A
long way to go. I'm just getting going. I'm just
now good enough to be a head coach.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Now, you guys are the college football guys. Doug, you're
a head coach. Dan, you follow the sport closely. From
a thirty thousand foot view on this, if I could
as just listening to that SoundBite, that sounds like a
guy who has made more money than he could spend,
who if you want to buy him out, would be
a tremendous amount of money that is grandkids probably couldn't spend.
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And I'm going to say whatever I want, so get
rid of me and I'll probably get a really good
job next. That sounds like a guy that could kind
of take or leave things. But you guys might disagree.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't think it has anything to do with anybody
buying him out. I think that was really at the
whether it's fine bombs or internet trolls of the world
right understanding the reality of it. And I have a
lot to say on on Clemson, and I'll say it,
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but again, my thing is, I don't think that was Hey,
he spent.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Too much money.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's he knows that coaching football and coaching, and the
one thing the Playoff allows is for real coaching, which
is what do you look like at the end of
the season, and we can keep getting better. So I
think that was more at the Internet or at X
and social media than it was Clemson administration, Clemson boosters,
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Chase Dan.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (05:30):
And it very it may well be that that could
be the case with Dabbo. And I actually will side
with Dabbo on this in the fact that Clemson, we
all know this, clemsonting used to be a verb when
you lost the game you should have won, or blew
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it in some crazy fashion. That was clemsoning, and that
happened prior to Dabbo, and it happened years after the
year after year, season after season. Something that you think
could go right for the Tigers ultimately wouldn't and he
turned it around. And I understand that this new age
of college football is one that a lot of people
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are adjusting to, and Dabbo may seem like a fossil
or an antique because of the new way of college football.
But I hate it when coaches get run out of
town for stuff that they shouldn't have And considering where
Clemson was prior, I think that Dabbo has at least
another two years of goodwill built up for the run
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that he put them on. And that doesn't even include Doug.
Everything that you said about the current state of college
football and what is the real goal at the end
of the season. Their loss to LSU wasn't great, but
you know what, it's really not going to hurt them
in the long run. And when you look at the
ACC seems to be there for the taking. Sure, you
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lose a game at Georgia Tech New Quash Jeorgia Tech's
pretty good football team. Yep, those things happen. So for
a fan base that now seems like they're spoiled, it's
those spoiled brats that I think Dabo is talking to.
And I may not agree with everything that he does
with with it coaching in how they build their team,
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but I am one hundred percent behind him in what
he said in defending his record and what he has
done for that school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So let me get into the state of college football thing.
Their deal is they want to stay out of the portal.
They want all you know, hey, where get our guys,
keep our guys, grow our guys, and go from there.
And here's the thing that, look, no one actually knows
what the best way to do it is, and the
best way to do it at one place might not
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be the best way to do it somewhere else. Now,
the one thing Dabo had going for him that others
did not was he had, you know, eight nine years
of excellence before you know, he had a couple like
five unbelievable years before the portal started, before playing players
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really started. So he did have a culture, he did
have the backing of everybody. He could have done it
a bunch of different ways. We're all I'll agree with
Dabo is like, I don't think they have the money
of a Georgia. I don't think they have the money
of an SEC. And so if you want to compete
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at the highest level when you're not at that level financially,
you got to find a different way because you just
can't load up. It's like, it's the reason that moneyball
exists in baseball, Right, The A's had no chance of
outbidding the Yankees, just none, or the Dodgers or any
of these big market even the Giants, right, they just
don't have that much money. So I just we're all
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trying to figure out what the best avenue is for
our university. And it's a trial and err thing. And
again last year is a perfect example. Didn't look great
out of the gate, but they end up coming around
and winning the acc right and going to the playoffs
and ultimately, you know, did they live up to the Hey,
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can you have a high retention rate and win a
national championship?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, they were a.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Notch below talent wise the elite elite teams, but they
had a level of consistency and that I think he
believes is their avenue.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, he's absolutely earned the right for more time.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And I do think I told you last year I
was cheering for him because I like that way. I
think that's I think you can build the true college experience.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think you can bring great culture.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think you're going to have more consistent ten win
years that way, even though you may not have a
national championship that way. That's the hard part, right, like
the going all in every year for new players and
new pieces.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I think the highs and the lows.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's Florida State two years ago, florest Date doesn't lose
a game last year, forty wins two games this year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I think they're back to being good.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Could be next year because you just year by year
there's such volatility. He's building for consistency. I think that's
the smarter play. It's the more consistent play. But again,
like you have to preserve the right. You might be
wrong because no one's ever experienced college sports in this era.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's new to everybody, everybody.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I just wouldn't want to be the president or the
ad or the boosters or whoever to be the one
to run Dabbo out of town.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But you know where he's gonna go, right, I mean,
everybody knows what happens. Well, he sits there and waits,
and if calen Bory gets fired, he gets.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To the job at Alabama.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Yes, that seems to be a possible landing spot, but
it should never come to that. It really shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
At Clemson, he is Clemson Football.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
And I would also say, Doug that, and I'll use
your sport as an example of someone like coach k
who transitioned and altered the way that they did things
because of a different landscape in college basketball. Sure that
Dabbo at least, if he's stuck in his ways now,
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at least deserves the runway for the next couple of
years to continue to really analyze if what he is
doing right now is correct or if he does need
to turn it around. And that's something that you shouldn't
throw away. Because of two losses in one score games
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to one team that's three and nine again Georgia Tech,
I think is a pretty good football team and LSU
at home. I know that LSU outplayed Clemson in that game,
but still one score game. Like, what are we doing
here if we're running someone out of town because they're
one and two with a combined loss of you know,
ten points on their two losses this year. I just, yeah,
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don't I don't like it. I don't like either. I
understand that there's an ever changing world of college sports,
and I think a lot of schools are trying to
find out ways. We also don't know, Doug on how
much the new revenue sharing deal in the ACC is
going to affect the top schools because they are expected
to get more money because of their exposure and what happens.
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So does that put the Miami's in Florida States and
Clemsons further down the road than the other schools once
that really fully takes, you know, goes into effect. I
don't know. But just for Dabble to be dealing with
this and I get it, and there's he's said a
lot of stuff previously which kind of makes him an
easy target for this, But I'm glad that he's sticking
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up for himself because I just think it's absurd to
have this sort of conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Look, I'd even link in Mike Gundy at MI alma
mater right where you know, they get blasted by Oregon,
and look, the whole deal is he shouldn't have played
the game. Shouldn't have played the game right That game
was scheduled in twenty eighteen. Oregon was eight and seven
at the time, Oklahoma State was the top ten team.
The landscape of college ball has changed showed dramatically, and
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I think Mike Gundy and obviously Dan Lanny picked on
it and made it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Act to be some negative.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I think my Gundy was trying to be one trying
to set everybody up for what they were going to see,
like he knew, and two he's actually trying to give
them a cump and like, look, they're really well coached
and they got way more money than we have. Like this,
this is what he should have said, was this is
what big time college. If you want to build a
program at a place like Oregon where you don't have
great instate recruits, this is what you do they have
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done it perfectly.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's all you have to say.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, But the point is that, like, do we think
that in two years Mike Gundy has forgotten how to
coach football?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Like he suddenly like completely lost track of how
to coach football. Last year they beat Arkansas and then
all of a sudden it fell apart. Why because Arkansas
beat him up? They lost Like they only had three
or four difference makers. I think three or four of
them got hurt. The quarterback end up in his seventh year,
stinking up the joint. The offensive line wasn't good enough,
but they lost their difference makers to injury because the
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attrition of early in the season and they don't have
the money to have the depth. Then he scraps it
and has to have a whole new staff. You have
a whole new staff and you have money for the
first time, and you go out and spend it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You don't know what to like.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
People are gonna make mistakes, make mistakes first time you
have money. When you haven't had money and you have
a new staff, you don't have an identity. How are
we gonna play? We don't know. Guys are showing up late.
And then you go and play a behemoth like Organ
and you get pumbled.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Ninety percent of the teams get pumbled by Organ, So
you know. Again, My thing is, if you've shown that
you can win over a decade, which Dabo has, which
Mike Gundy has, you got to give him the benefit
of the doubt of give him a little bit of runway,
because this is a completely different era, completely different and
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what your plan is until you see it play out.
And no, if your plan is, hey, we're gonna win
this year and you tell everybody we're going all in,
we're gonna win this year and then you.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Don't, that's different.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But if you say here's our plan, here's what we're
gonna try, you have to understand you might be wrong
and things might things might not go well. And that's
what's happened in Oakland State, and we'll see what's happening
in Clemson.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Oh well, I will finish you with this. This would
be my last word. Just to jump back to Dabble
for a second. There isn't a game on their schedule
outside of a home game against Florida State number seven
Florida State that they shouldn't win, and that game against
Florida State is a game that is winnable for them,
so they could run the table. As some people pick
Clemson to win the national title at the beginning of
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the year. If they do go on a run, Doug,
you know what we're gonna hear two months from now
is the team I wouldn't want to face in the
bracket Clemson, just you know, like we would have any
other the team you don't want to face because they
would be hot at that time and it would be
funny on how two months difference would change the narrative.
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
RJ.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We were just talking about Dabosweeney and he did the
whole resume. Hey, if Clemson is tired of winning, you
guys can write the check and I'll go wherever. H
what's your sense though of Clemson football, who you know
last year was able to get into the College to
the Ball playoff. They're trying to do it without the
portal high retention rate and you know two losses combined
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by combined I think four points this year, Well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Getting a sense that was twenty fourteen all over again
to start one and two. They finished to ten wins.
They find a way and on acc but top to Turvy.
I think Dabo is having the most fun when he
feels as if the world is against him and he
needs to be reminded that we are referring to Clemson
like we had been referring to Clemston for one and
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thirty years. They had won one national championship with coach
Ford in nineteen eighty one, and then he showed up
and he's right. He will recited all this debt and
then needs to tell everybody he doesn't actually listen to
what you or I have to say. And I'm going
it sounds like a dog because you're out there like
the sid so any how many times you've been to
the playoff, how many times you've been to the National
Championship game, how many times you want the conference? How
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many times that do you have won nine games or more?
I think the way in what you're doing at works
for him. That's it. Do I think that it's going
to be better for them to be on ranked and
then figure out who they are and then by November
we're talking about them. Yes, but it's got to a
point where I don't really pay much attention to what
Gabber was saying in September. By October, Tyler skin Spartenberg
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would be on the line. They'll tell him to come
down and coach the coach the team if you want to.
And then all of a sudden, the end up in
the Agency Championship game because Miami can't finish against Syracuse
and they're in the playoffs, so I put him down
in September. They'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm with you, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Most people know, not just from your time on here,
but if they listen to the Number one podcast, you
are an official auto for Oklahoma football. This is a
gigantic week for ow you right, they start this unbelievably
unbelievable gauntlet of remaining games. Were only one I think
unranked team actually South Carolina now, but that's still going
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to be a beast of a game when they play
South Carolina. But it's unique because Auburn's beaten Baylor at Baylor,
people think Auburn's pretty good. Maybe more importantly, the last
air apparent, Jackson Arnold, is now quarterback for Auburn. The
new air apparent to the Heisman Trophy potential number one
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overall pick is John Mattier, Right, who's the current quarterback
at Oklahoma. So you got all this different stuff. What
do you think of this weekend's game in Norman?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I think the winner has a very strong argument to
make the college football playoffs. That's what I think. I
think both of them will have a marquee victory. Oklahoma.
You might argue already has one with their defeating Michigan,
who is the top fifteen team at the time. They
do that, Field Alan gets to come to owen Field,
they get a win. I guess they top fifteam. Oklahoma,
we got to talk about Auburn at for real in
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the SEC. I'm not there to say either one's gonna
win the conference championship because Georgia still runs this league
until it's such time that somebody can dedrone them and
Tennessee couldn't do that. I'm more interested in a couple
of things inside of Oklahoma as they are reflected in
what Auburn's going to did. If you'll allows so, Rent
Venables is a defensive coach and he is calling the defense.
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There is no bones about that. They have zero takeaways
through the three games, which is very unbreventable. Like I mean,
even last year they had to take away and two
before things went off the rail. They've been actually pretty
decent and as far as stopping people from scoring, and
they don't like to have people score it even when
the offense turns the ball over inside the low red zones,
they take pride and being able to blow up Jack
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Ronald you'll know, has formed the football eight times and
throw three inceptions in the Oklahoma US And if anybody
knows how that guy is unraveled with he is Brint Vinnables.
Who's going to send six, who's going to spend seven?
He's coming after him, and he's got to force Jackson
Arnold to makes the kinds of plays that we wanted
him to make last year that he just couldn't. Rco
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Reef were not there. He needed to tucking me go.
He's a dynamic runner, and I think this is gonna
test you Freeze, who wants to push the ball down
Phil He's got a million dollar wide receiver in Cam Goeman.
He's got a million dollar wide receiver in Eric Singleton.
And they can't seem to take much advantage of those
guys because the guy at quarterback just can't be trusted
sports down the field like the guy at Oklahoma. But
Jeremiah cop can run it, you know, Jackson Arnold can
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run it, and that I think is how they're going
to win a lot of football games. It's gonna look
a lot like Texas spreads with Ben Young if they're good.
That said, it's still Oklahoma. You still are coming into
well owen Field and Alabama figured out just how hard
that is to do. I expect Auburnville too, but I'm
gonna be watching just how uncomfortable Jackson Arnold is. And
I expect John here to be playing quarterbacks why he
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plays shortstop, which is enough to give me heartburn.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, at the top of the college ball landscape, what
did what you learn about Georgia and Tennessee from last weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Two best teams the SEC's That's what I came away with.
There are a large number of volunteer fans in Oklahoma,
believer or not, and I heard the bunch of them.
They were disappointed that they could not get this win done.
And I'm going, maybe Matt Gilbert can't show his face
for a little while of the kickers because he made
that kicking over time the going you couldn't done that
five minutes earlier, I understand. But I also learned the
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gunner stopped him as a students like, that's the underrated
part of that game. He had not played or started
an SEC games. He certainly had not started one on
the Roads, and he hadn't played at Kneeland, where Rocky
Top was absolutely Rockets fourth and six. I'm acpecting this
guy to try to find a plant over the middle,
maybe rollout playing pass. No, he went for the goal.
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He threw a tea. He put it where ode On
the Comfort could catch it, and that dude made a play.
If I learned nothing else about Georgia all year, I
don't know the guy at quarterback can stand up, and
I didn't know that him before this game. Other side,
Tennessee did everything they wanted to do except when the
football game. Joey Aguilar got off through I think the
best oar Teamy body's ever had through fifteen passes against
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the curtain, smart defense like working at fifteen to two
thirteen two tds, uro interceptions, and the offense was running
the way that we expected it to last year and
how it looked when him and Hooker was at quarterback.
It's just Canbama gets passed Georgia if they get to
this CHET Championship? And I think right now those are
the two teams I think that are best in that league,
and I think they couldn't be on a collision course
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come December.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What do
we do with the rest of college football, and by that,
I'm like again, I'm you know me, I'm in Oklahoma State, Alum,
I'm a Big twelve guy. I love it, but I'm
also a realist and I realized that there is a
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drop off between the SEC, Big ten and everybody else,
right and everybody else? How do we adjust our eyes
considering you know, some of these teams haven't crossed over
against the SEC and Big ten, and so the records
don't reflect as much.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I love you, Doug, but I don't mind telling you
that it's been more than three hundred and eighty days.
Thince Oklahoma State last week NETPS opponent. Good news is
they played at FPS opponted on Friday and they should
be able to get on the board. I don't think
teams it's good. They celebrated like they won the Super
Bowl up to beat Napalon Christian and they got smoked
by New Mexico State. They got smoked by me. So
there's that. But if you're looking at Oklahoma State as
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one of these.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Teams, no no, no, no no no no no. I'm
not thinking of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm just thinking of the like the Big twelve, like
the Big twelve, and I'm there, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm there. You're thinking about one of the Oklahoma State
as being one of the teams that may not have
what it takes to compete against the Big Ten, against
the DUC, the top end of the APEC. I think
that that is a little short sighted. I think that
as long as you have a network television deal that
is paying you competitively, not all as far with the
SEC or the Big Ten, obviously, but more than say
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you get paid in the American or you get shown
in what the paxworld was going to be, you have
a shot get back into the swing of things. I
think that you know, when you and I were playing
in college, we didn't care about the SEC. That was
that was that was nothing to us, was the SEC.
And then all of a sudden two thousand and six,
two thousand and eight, they take control of college football,
and here lately it's been the Big Ten. I think
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he's been a difficult I think the only way that
you're actually out of the game is because you don't
have a network television deal that can help you. Look
at Notre Dames, they've got that NBC deal and their
competitive every single year. That's going to be the ad
and have not Who's playing on television? Who play on ESPN, five, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Deshaun Foster got fired three games into his second season,
and full disclosure, Deshaun's a friend. We were actually high
school basketball teams. He's a freshman. I was a senior,
and but I mean three games into his second year.
Holy cow, they pulled. They pulled the ripcord. Virginia Tech.
(26:06):
And what's crazy about UCLA is they haven't started school yet.
So every player on that roster has thirty days they
can enter the transfer portal and if you have space
and can get them into school, you can actually add
a player who played at UCLA completely legal and they
can play it right away, you know, because they haven't
(26:27):
started school, so it has nothing to do with academics.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But what does it say about this landscape that now,
I mean Virginia Tech it's year four, but still three games.
In UCLA, it's year two, three games in. What does
it say about the landscape that we're making decisions this
early in the season in September, we're firing coaches, and
not for cause that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
People are doing their fiscal map now as it ain't
adding up if you want to compete at that level.
I think brit Pride was always of all the time.
He hasn't gotten off to a great start into the
last three years, and it was time for him to
go for DeShawn. I'm thinking you hired the guy that
everybody likes, and that's usually not the guy that you
should hire, because hey, we really love an alumnus as
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a head coach. You know his heart's going to be
in it. But you were pretty damn good with Chiff
Kelly and they just didn't like it, and chick Kelly
didn't like it, so they parted. Now they get to
wash their hands of what they think is perhaps an
older way of having a head coach. Like when I
think about how we're going to go into the cycle,
you're going to be looking for a guy that can coach,
probably a rising coordinator. Will sign is my top candidate
(27:34):
for anybody if they can lure him out of Oregon.
I doubt it, because he's in line for a big
time job. But I think what it says about UCLA
is the Jena text. They need to get on the
ball light tap. They know that with revenue sharing online
and il been online for about four years now, give
or take, and the money continue to go up. You
need to have a head coach that is not only
able to see around corners and coach the team, but
(27:56):
that is builtful what college football is the coming and
what you're learning is aren't a whole lot of guys
that hunt of coaches that really want this job and
the way that has to be done. Now Now I'm
mc kenny, Billiam g J Kenny, Marcus Spreeingman, guys that
are in their late thirties and our company to be
in our early forties, and we're going we didn't work
this hard just to give up the job because they
(28:16):
changed the Wolves. No, I want to be a head coach.
Pelin Deshaun wanted to as well. I think what happened
there is the bet on we go ya Maliava. It's
a bad look because Julie Aguilar is falling out. You
had that guy, so now we get to get you
for evaluation. We get to say you don't know who
your quarterback should be because you have a guy, and
then you brought in a guy that they were happy
to get rid of and you can't play that. That's
(28:36):
I think really the ripcord. There you loose in Mexico
in the way that New Mexico is basically retinned Idaho vandals. Yeah,
they're gonna have a problem with that. But now you
get to go have a robust schirch and try to
find somebody that you see unless that fis Virginia Tech
quicker than you might if you fired that person in December.
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Really interesting to see what happens in Norman this weekend.
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Speaker 2 (29:50):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I want to get to this, do you guys ever
watch first things first? Because I saw, you know, look,
it's Nick Writes a Kansas City home. That's his hometown.
He they talked the Chiefs more than anybody else, but
they unveiled a banner that said basically, tush push and
it ended in twenty twenty five, right started like twenty
(30:14):
twenty two, ended twenty twenty five. And I thought it
was brilliant because now that we're pointing out how hard
a play it is to officiate and how they do
miss some of the fall starts, their assessment, and I
agree with it is this is gonna be last year
it survived a vote.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Next year it will not.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Here's Eagle's offensive lineman Jordan Malata Miltta in Philadelphia when
he was asked about all the talk of the push
Push since Sunday's winterver Kent City.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I understand the outrage. What I don't understand is theam
using it as an excuse to why we won the game.
I think it's incredibly disrespectful to our defense and our
special teams who bowled out my brothers on defense, the
special teams who bought out that game, who had our
backs when we went moving the ball or we went
doing anything. When I see those things and they fly,
(31:08):
you know, they fly across my timeline here and there.
And I do my best to stay off social media.
But now that kind of irks me a little bit.
That pisces me off because we give so much to
this game and to kind of base of a short
yardage play that is a football play, and say that
we won the game off that, but not the not
(31:30):
how our defense played, not how our special teams have
played putting us in those positions. You know, I think
it's I think it's bull crap. I was gonna say
a lot of other stuff, but you know, I just
think it's rubbish. It's absolute rubbish, man. It makes me
makes my blood boy just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, I mean, listen, you can be as mad as
you want. Games are decided on short yardage plays, right,
Nothing decides games more and They've had this virtually unstoppable
play and you're starting to see again they got guys
either fall start jumping off sides, lining up in the
neutral zone, the center lining up in the neutral zone.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The the the net net to me is now it's
going to be called it'll be harder for them to run.
And most people's guess is this is the last year
of the toush push. Come up with The Doug Gottlieb Show,
Bears head coach Ben Johnson did not let up when
analyzing his zero to two team.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
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Speaker 2 (33:18):
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Speaker 5 (33:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just then announcement again, a thank you to the Buffalo
Bills who have hooked my guys up right, and I'd
love I'm eating again. They're being super nice and they
want to give me credit. That's not really credit. I
just gonna connect the dots and called and are you guys.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Fifty yard line seats?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yes we are, Doug, we are fifty yard line lower
ball ye falling. And I'll tell you what's the best
part about it is we are have the view of
what you would see on TV. So all of the
highlights that we can look back from this game years
later will not be the reverse angle like we won't
be on the other side. And so instead of going left,
(33:58):
they're going right. We will see it how the country
watches it tomorrow night and for years to come in highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Okay, So now here's the other thing. Okay, you guys
are for people to understand. I want to get this
real quick. So I want to get the press taking
a red eye, getting in there, gonna take a nap.
Are you gonna do we want to hook you up
with Bill's mafia or do you want to get in
and you want to try and get you pregame sideline.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
I think that I'm gonna let I'm gonna defer to
Jason on this. I think we may just go and
check everything out. I don't know if sideline is really needed,
but I'll defer to Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I just want to be a part of the common man.
I want to experience everything that Bill's fans experienced, So
we will definitely be in the in the parking lot.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, So here's what I need. Here's what I need.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If you're Bill's mafia or visiting or you know anybody
Bill's mafia, I need to just slide on it. Not
to my DMS, just regular regular Twitter, regular Instagram. Where
should the guys go? Dan Byer, what's your handles at?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Dan Byer on Fox?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
On It?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Jase Ja stew what's your handle.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
At Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, and you can just if you can't remember them,
can't find them, just tag me. I will make sure
they get it. But these guys need to feel what
it's really like to go to a game in Buffalo,
in this old in Orchard Park, and what Bill's Mafia
is really about.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And we're gonna check in on tomorrow's show with you
as well. We've already aligned that with Ryan Berschinger, who
will be producing the show.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
All right, let's get to the press, the press, Dan,
what you got.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Ben Johnson's got a lot to say, a lot to say,
including so much, so much as the Bears head coach
ways in on his team's practice.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
Habits, I think our practice habits are are yet to
reflect the championship caliber team.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Alight, all right, well, hey, hey, didn't you have training camp?
Couldn't she have worked that one out in training camp?
Speaker 7 (35:51):
What about the approach of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
And like I said, he took a big step from
week one to week two, I'm really expecting him to
do this same thing week two to week three. But
the fact of the matter is we're not gonna go
week one, week two, week three, all the way through
seventeen just like that. We're gonna have some hiccups along
the way, and we're I'm aware of that, but his
approach to the game right now is what it needs
(36:15):
to be. He's coming in, he's doing the work. Eventually,
these results will start speaking for themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Daniel Jeremiah joined us and said he thought on tape
he improved greatly from game one to game two.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
That one bad throw is the one that gets highlighted
the entire time. But you know that's a fair assessment
from a sharp eye in the NFL. One Daniel Jeremiah,
Bears have the Cowboys coming up. By the way, it
was kind of unfair that it was pointed out that
the NFC Offensive Player of the Week has come from
the team that's played the Bears the last two weeks,
(36:49):
because I have no idea how JJ McCarthy won at
Week one. I get Jared Goff in Week two, but
for some reason, it felt like there was this recency
bias because it was the last game of Week one
that he was bad for.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, hour of the game, yes, and they kind of
dialed up some throws, but yeah, that was that was
one of those wet.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 7 (37:07):
The forty nine ers may have Brock Purdy for Week
three limited in practice going to be today, said Kyle Shanahan.
The Niners head coach, says there's a chance that he
could return from the toe and shoulder injuries that forced
him to miss Week two against the Saints. Division showdown
between the Cardinals and Niners coming up Sunday in Santa.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Cardinals like quietly to and oh but they're just kind
of okay, So we'll see what that. By the way,
I was thinking about this, is any player in the NFL.
He's in a gigantic market, He's won a Super Bowl,
he plays for a really well respected coach. No one
mentions Matthew Stafford, who's been amazing through two weeks.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Is that's a weird one, right, Yes, I'm sorry, No,
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I know it wasn't part of what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But you're talking about NFC West and no one's talking
about the I mean, we haven't talked about the Rams
and he's been really good.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Well, if they beat the Eagles this weekend, which I
think they have a decent ants to, we'll be talking
about him on Monday.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
One quick word about Kyle Shanahan giving us any updates
on injuries. He's a liar, He's a proven liar. The
NFL should have a very least find him, if not
suspended him last year when he didn't tell us a
Christian McCaffrey was going to miss the season and all
the fantasy drafts had happened and everyone took him at
the top of their drafts. That's a fireable offense as
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far as I'm concerned, and I will never believe an
injury report coming out of that camp.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
Jaden Daniels are the Commander's not going to practice until
Friday at the earliest because of his knee injury. So
Marcus Mariotto would be in line to start Jets one
of justin fields. He's out against the Buccaneers and Stefan Diggs,
wide receiver from the Patriots and girlfriend Cardi b expecting
their first child together. Doug back to you may get.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Out there and pressed that was the press. So will
she be Cardi C. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
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R J.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Young's gonna join us. He is the he has the
Number one show, which is a huge college football podcast.
He's also gigantic Oklahoma Homer Big week this week for
the Sooners. They just demolished Temple. Now they bring in Auburn. Right,
first SEC game in Auburn's quarterback was oklahoma'squarterback jack Sonarnold
(01:01):
last year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Can't wait to talk with r J.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Young the guy who was the next guy is now
with Auburn, and then John Mittier. Now maybe he's the
next Oklahoma quarterback to win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
As he is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think Dampires said yesterday he's the betting favorite to
win the Heisman. Dan can definitely correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm right. Okay, thanks Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Anyway, we'll get to some college football upcoming. Also got
to talk Tush Push. I saw something on First Things
First which I thought was absolutely brilliant, and well, we'll
play that off versus something that an Eagles offensive lineman
said about the Tush push this past week. That'll be
upcoming in fifteen minutes. But it is the middle of
(01:45):
the week. It's a Wednesday. It is the middle of
the day, right, I mean one on the west, three
on the east. You're not going to bed at seven tonight.
It's the middle of your day and it's the middle
of our show. We have two hours of live radio,
one hour of podcast, which which lands in your queue
at the top of the hour. So we do something
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on the on the midway, Jason Henk you.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Doug, I'll take it from here. Dabo Swimmy made news.
He went viral as he's protecting his turf. I guess Dabo,
and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. They
lost a game on Saturday they that most people thought
they should have won, and they're one and two on
the season and the knives are out and Dabbo took
(02:59):
time I'm yesterday to address this.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
If they want me gone, they can. If they tired
of winning, they can send me on the way, because
that's all we've done is win. So if they tired
of winning, we've had We've won this league eight out
of the last ten years. Is that not good? I'm just
asking is that good? I don't know if that's good
or not. To win your league eight out of ten
years to go to the playoffs seven out of ten years,
being four national championships and went it twice. Yeah, we
little down right. Now take your shots. But I got
(03:22):
a long memory in case y'all don't know, We'll be
all right. We'll bounce back. This is a program built
to last, always has been, always will be. And I
would just say, if you give up on us, if
you don't believe on us, because we've lost two games
down to the last trade and we're wanting you didn't
believe in us anyway, so it don't matter. You wasn't
all in anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
If you all in, you burn the ships.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Man.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.
And hey listen, I mean Cumpston's tired of winning. They
send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,
and coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell them
fifty five. I got a long way to go, y'all
gonna have to deal with me for a while, A
long way to go. I'm just getting going. I'm just
now good enough to be a head coach.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Now, you guys are the college football guys. Doug, you're
a head coach. Dan, you follow the sport closely. From
a thirty thousand foot view on this, if I could
as just listening to that SoundBite, that sounds like a
guy who has made more money than he could spend,
who if you want to buy him out, would be
a tremendous amount of money that is grandkids probably couldn't spend.
(04:28):
And I'm going to say whatever I want, so get
rid of me and I'll probably get a really good
job next. That sounds like a guy that could kind
of take or leave things. But you guys might disagree.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't think it has anything to do with anybody
buying him out. I think that was really at the
whether it's fine bombs or internet trolls of the world
right understanding the reality of it. And I have a
lot to say on on Clemson, and I'll say it,
(05:04):
but again, my thing is, I don't think that was Hey,
he spent.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Too much money.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's he knows that coaching football and coaching, and the
one thing the Playoff allows is for real coaching, which
is what do you look like at the end of
the season, and we can keep getting better. So I
think that was more at the Internet or at X
and social media than it was Clemson administration, Clemson boosters,
(05:29):
Chase Dan.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (05:30):
And it very it may well be that that could
be the case with Dabbo. And I actually will side
with Dabbo on this in the fact that Clemson, we
all know this, clemsonting used to be a verb when
you lost the game you should have won, or blew
(05:52):
it in some crazy fashion. That was clemsoning, and that
happened prior to Dabbo, and it happened years after the
year after year, season after season. Something that you think
could go right for the Tigers ultimately wouldn't and he
turned it around. And I understand that this new age
of college football is one that a lot of people
(06:13):
are adjusting to, and Dabbo may seem like a fossil
or an antique because of the new way of college football.
But I hate it when coaches get run out of
town for stuff that they shouldn't have And considering where
Clemson was prior, I think that Dabbo has at least
another two years of goodwill built up for the run
(06:37):
that he put them on. And that doesn't even include Doug.
Everything that you said about the current state of college
football and what is the real goal at the end
of the season. Their loss to LSU wasn't great, but
you know what, it's really not going to hurt them
in the long run. And when you look at the
ACC seems to be there for the taking. Sure, you
(06:58):
lose a game at Georgia Tech New Quash Jeorgia Tech's
pretty good football team. Yep, those things happen. So for
a fan base that now seems like they're spoiled, it's
those spoiled brats that I think Dabo is talking to.
And I may not agree with everything that he does
with with it coaching in how they build their team,
(07:19):
but I am one hundred percent behind him in what
he said in defending his record and what he has
done for that school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So let me get into the state of college football thing.
Their deal is they want to stay out of the portal.
They want all you know, hey, where get our guys,
keep our guys, grow our guys, and go from there.
And here's the thing that, look, no one actually knows
what the best way to do it is, and the
best way to do it at one place might not
(07:46):
be the best way to do it somewhere else. Now,
the one thing Dabo had going for him that others
did not was he had, you know, eight nine years
of excellence before you know, he had a couple like
five unbelievable years before the portal started, before playing players
(08:06):
really started. So he did have a culture, he did
have the backing of everybody. He could have done it
a bunch of different ways. We're all I'll agree with
Dabo is like, I don't think they have the money
of a Georgia. I don't think they have the money
of an SEC. And so if you want to compete
(08:28):
at the highest level when you're not at that level financially,
you got to find a different way because you just
can't load up. It's like, it's the reason that moneyball
exists in baseball, Right, The A's had no chance of
outbidding the Yankees, just none, or the Dodgers or any
of these big market even the Giants, right, they just
don't have that much money. So I just we're all
(08:51):
trying to figure out what the best avenue is for
our university. And it's a trial and err thing. And
again last year is a perfect example. Didn't look great
out of the gate, but they end up coming around
and winning the acc right and going to the playoffs
and ultimately, you know, did they live up to the Hey,
(09:14):
can you have a high retention rate and win a
national championship?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, they were a.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Notch below talent wise the elite elite teams, but they
had a level of consistency and that I think he
believes is their avenue.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, he's absolutely earned the right for more time.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And I do think I told you last year I
was cheering for him because I like that way. I
think that's I think you can build the true college experience.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think you can bring great culture.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think you're going to have more consistent ten win
years that way, even though you may not have a
national championship that way. That's the hard part, right, like
the going all in every year for new players and
new pieces.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I think the highs and the lows.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's Florida State two years ago, florest Date doesn't lose
a game last year, forty wins two games this year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I think they're back to being good.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Could be next year because you just year by year
there's such volatility. He's building for consistency. I think that's
the smarter play. It's the more consistent play. But again,
like you have to preserve the right. You might be
wrong because no one's ever experienced college sports in this era.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's new to everybody, everybody.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I just wouldn't want to be the president or the
ad or the boosters or whoever to be the one
to run Dabbo out of town.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But you know where he's gonna go, right, I mean,
everybody knows what happens. Well, he sits there and waits,
and if calen Bory gets fired, he gets.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To the job at Alabama.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Yes, that seems to be a possible landing spot, but
it should never come to that. It really shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
At Clemson, he is Clemson Football.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
And I would also say, Doug that, and I'll use
your sport as an example of someone like coach k
who transitioned and altered the way that they did things
because of a different landscape in college basketball. Sure that
Dabbo at least, if he's stuck in his ways now,
(11:15):
at least deserves the runway for the next couple of
years to continue to really analyze if what he is
doing right now is correct or if he does need
to turn it around. And that's something that you shouldn't
throw away. Because of two losses in one score games
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to one team that's three and nine again Georgia Tech,
I think is a pretty good football team and LSU
at home. I know that LSU outplayed Clemson in that game,
but still one score game. Like, what are we doing
here if we're running someone out of town because they're
one and two with a combined loss of you know,
ten points on their two losses this year. I just, yeah,
(11:58):
don't I don't like it. I don't like either. I
understand that there's an ever changing world of college sports,
and I think a lot of schools are trying to
find out ways. We also don't know, Doug on how
much the new revenue sharing deal in the ACC is
going to affect the top schools because they are expected
to get more money because of their exposure and what happens.
(12:19):
So does that put the Miami's in Florida States and
Clemsons further down the road than the other schools once
that really fully takes, you know, goes into effect. I
don't know. But just for Dabble to be dealing with
this and I get it, and there's he's said a
lot of stuff previously which kind of makes him an
easy target for this, But I'm glad that he's sticking
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up for himself because I just think it's absurd to
have this sort of conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Look, I'd even link in Mike Gundy at MI alma
mater right where you know, they get blasted by Oregon,
and look, the whole deal is he shouldn't have played
the game. Shouldn't have played the game right That game
was scheduled in twenty eighteen. Oregon was eight and seven
at the time, Oklahoma State was the top ten team.
The landscape of college ball has changed showed dramatically, and
(13:08):
I think Mike Gundy and obviously Dan Lanny picked on
it and made it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Act to be some negative.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I think my Gundy was trying to be one trying
to set everybody up for what they were going to see,
like he knew, and two he's actually trying to give
them a cump and like, look, they're really well coached
and they got way more money than we have. Like this,
this is what he should have said, was this is
what big time college. If you want to build a
program at a place like Oregon where you don't have
great instate recruits, this is what you do they have
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done it perfectly.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's all you have to say.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, But the point is that, like, do we think
that in two years Mike Gundy has forgotten how to
coach football?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Like he suddenly like completely lost track of how
to coach football. Last year they beat Arkansas and then
all of a sudden it fell apart. Why because Arkansas
beat him up? They lost Like they only had three
or four difference makers. I think three or four of
them got hurt. The quarterback end up in his seventh year,
stinking up the joint. The offensive line wasn't good enough,
but they lost their difference makers to injury because the
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attrition of early in the season and they don't have
the money to have the depth. Then he scraps it
and has to have a whole new staff. You have
a whole new staff and you have money for the
first time, and you go out and spend it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You don't know what to like.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
People are gonna make mistakes, make mistakes first time you
have money. When you haven't had money and you have
a new staff, you don't have an identity. How are
we gonna play? We don't know. Guys are showing up late.
And then you go and play a behemoth like Organ
and you get pumbled.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Ninety percent of the teams get pumbled by Organ, So
you know. Again, My thing is, if you've shown that
you can win over a decade, which Dabo has, which
Mike Gundy has, you got to give him the benefit
of the doubt of give him a little bit of runway,
because this is a completely different era, completely different and
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what your plan is until you see it play out.
And no, if your plan is, hey, we're gonna win
this year and you tell everybody we're going all in,
we're gonna win this year and then you.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Don't, that's different.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But if you say here's our plan, here's what we're
gonna try, you have to understand you might be wrong
and things might things might not go well. And that's
what's happened in Oakland State, and we'll see what's happening
in Clemson.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Oh well, I will finish you with this. This would
be my last word. Just to jump back to Dabble
for a second. There isn't a game on their schedule
outside of a home game against Florida State number seven
Florida State that they shouldn't win, and that game against
Florida State is a game that is winnable for them,
so they could run the table. As some people pick
Clemson to win the national title at the beginning of
(15:35):
the year. If they do go on a run, Doug,
you know what we're gonna hear two months from now
is the team I wouldn't want to face in the
bracket Clemson, just you know, like we would have any
other the team you don't want to face because they
would be hot at that time and it would be
funny on how two months difference would change the narrative.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
RJ.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We were just talking about Dabosweeney and he did the
whole resume. Hey, if Clemson is tired of winning, you
guys can write the check and I'll go wherever. H
what's your sense though of Clemson football, who you know
last year was able to get into the College to
the Ball playoff. They're trying to do it without the
portal high retention rate and you know two losses combined
(17:19):
by combined I think four points this year, Well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Getting a sense that was twenty fourteen all over again
to start one and two. They finished to ten wins.
They find a way and on acc but top to Turvy.
I think Dabo is having the most fun when he
feels as if the world is against him and he
needs to be reminded that we are referring to Clemson
like we had been referring to Clemston for one and
(17:45):
thirty years. They had won one national championship with coach
Ford in nineteen eighty one, and then he showed up
and he's right. He will recited all this debt and
then needs to tell everybody he doesn't actually listen to
what you or I have to say. And I'm going
it sounds like a dog because you're out there like
the sid so any how many times you've been to
the playoff, how many times you've been to the National
Championship game, how many times you want the conference? How
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many times that do you have won nine games or more?
I think the way in what you're doing at works
for him. That's it. Do I think that it's going
to be better for them to be on ranked and
then figure out who they are and then by November
we're talking about them. Yes, but it's got to a
point where I don't really pay much attention to what
Gabber was saying in September. By October, Tyler skin Spartenberg
(18:28):
would be on the line. They'll tell him to come
down and coach the coach the team if you want to.
And then all of a sudden, the end up in
the Agency Championship game because Miami can't finish against Syracuse
and they're in the playoffs, so I put him down
in September. They'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm with you, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Most people know, not just from your time on here,
but if they listen to the Number one podcast, you
are an official auto for Oklahoma football. This is a
gigantic week for ow you right, they start this unbelievably
unbelievable gauntlet of remaining games. Were only one I think
unranked team actually South Carolina now, but that's still going
(19:06):
to be a beast of a game when they play
South Carolina. But it's unique because Auburn's beaten Baylor at Baylor,
people think Auburn's pretty good. Maybe more importantly, the last
air apparent, Jackson Arnold, is now quarterback for Auburn. The
new air apparent to the Heisman Trophy potential number one
(19:26):
overall pick is John Mattier, Right, who's the current quarterback
at Oklahoma. So you got all this different stuff. What
do you think of this weekend's game in Norman?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I think the winner has a very strong argument to
make the college football playoffs. That's what I think. I
think both of them will have a marquee victory. Oklahoma.
You might argue already has one with their defeating Michigan,
who is the top fifteen team at the time. They
do that, Field Alan gets to come to owen Field,
they get a win. I guess they top fifteam. Oklahoma,
we got to talk about Auburn at for real in
(19:59):
the SEC. I'm not there to say either one's gonna
win the conference championship because Georgia still runs this league
until it's such time that somebody can dedrone them and
Tennessee couldn't do that. I'm more interested in a couple
of things inside of Oklahoma as they are reflected in
what Auburn's going to did. If you'll allows so, Rent
Venables is a defensive coach and he is calling the defense.
(20:22):
There is no bones about that. They have zero takeaways
through the three games, which is very unbreventable. Like I mean,
even last year they had to take away and two
before things went off the rail. They've been actually pretty
decent and as far as stopping people from scoring, and
they don't like to have people score it even when
the offense turns the ball over inside the low red zones,
they take pride and being able to blow up Jack
(20:43):
Ronald you'll know, has formed the football eight times and
throw three inceptions in the Oklahoma US And if anybody
knows how that guy is unraveled with he is Brint Vinnables.
Who's going to send six, who's going to spend seven?
He's coming after him, and he's got to force Jackson
Arnold to makes the kinds of plays that we wanted
him to make last year that he just couldn't. Rco
(21:05):
Reef were not there. He needed to tucking me go.
He's a dynamic runner, and I think this is gonna
test you Freeze, who wants to push the ball down
Phil He's got a million dollar wide receiver in Cam Goeman.
He's got a million dollar wide receiver in Eric Singleton.
And they can't seem to take much advantage of those
guys because the guy at quarterback just can't be trusted
sports down the field like the guy at Oklahoma. But
Jeremiah cop can run it, you know, Jackson Arnold can
(21:26):
run it, and that I think is how they're going
to win a lot of football games. It's gonna look
a lot like Texas spreads with Ben Young if they're good.
That said, it's still Oklahoma. You still are coming into
well owen Field and Alabama figured out just how hard
that is to do. I expect Auburnville too, but I'm
gonna be watching just how uncomfortable Jackson Arnold is. And
I expect John here to be playing quarterbacks why he
(21:49):
plays shortstop, which is enough to give me heartburn.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, at the top of the college ball landscape, what
did what you learn about Georgia and Tennessee from last weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Two best teams the SEC's That's what I came away with.
There are a large number of volunteer fans in Oklahoma,
believer or not, and I heard the bunch of them.
They were disappointed that they could not get this win done.
And I'm going, maybe Matt Gilbert can't show his face
for a little while of the kickers because he made
that kicking over time the going you couldn't done that
five minutes earlier, I understand. But I also learned the
(22:27):
gunner stopped him as a students like, that's the underrated
part of that game. He had not played or started
an SEC games. He certainly had not started one on
the Roads, and he hadn't played at Kneeland, where Rocky
Top was absolutely Rockets fourth and six. I'm acpecting this
guy to try to find a plant over the middle,
maybe rollout playing pass. No, he went for the goal.
(22:50):
He threw a tea. He put it where ode On
the Comfort could catch it, and that dude made a play.
If I learned nothing else about Georgia all year, I
don't know the guy at quarterback can stand up, and
I didn't know that him before this game. Other side,
Tennessee did everything they wanted to do except when the
football game. Joey Aguilar got off through I think the
best oar Teamy body's ever had through fifteen passes against
(23:10):
the curtain, smart defense like working at fifteen to two
thirteen two tds, uro interceptions, and the offense was running
the way that we expected it to last year and
how it looked when him and Hooker was at quarterback.
It's just Canbama gets passed Georgia if they get to
this CHET Championship? And I think right now those are
the two teams I think that are best in that league,
and I think they couldn't be on a collision course
(23:33):
come December.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What do
we do with the rest of college football, and by that,
I'm like again, I'm you know me, I'm in Oklahoma State, Alum,
I'm a Big twelve guy. I love it, but I'm
also a realist and I realized that there is a
(23:57):
drop off between the SEC, Big ten and everybody else,
right and everybody else? How do we adjust our eyes
considering you know, some of these teams haven't crossed over
against the SEC and Big ten, and so the records
don't reflect as much.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I love you, Doug, but I don't mind telling you
that it's been more than three hundred and eighty days.
Thince Oklahoma State last week NETPS opponent. Good news is
they played at FPS opponted on Friday and they should
be able to get on the board. I don't think
teams it's good. They celebrated like they won the Super
Bowl up to beat Napalon Christian and they got smoked
by New Mexico State. They got smoked by me. So
there's that. But if you're looking at Oklahoma State as
(24:34):
one of these.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Teams, no no, no, no no no no no. I'm
not thinking of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm just thinking of the like the Big twelve, like
the Big twelve, and I'm there, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm there. You're thinking about one of the Oklahoma State
as being one of the teams that may not have
what it takes to compete against the Big Ten, against
the DUC, the top end of the APEC. I think
that that is a little short sighted. I think that
as long as you have a network television deal that
is paying you competitively, not all as far with the
SEC or the Big Ten, obviously, but more than say
(25:05):
you get paid in the American or you get shown
in what the paxworld was going to be, you have
a shot get back into the swing of things. I
think that you know, when you and I were playing
in college, we didn't care about the SEC. That was
that was that was nothing to us, was the SEC.
And then all of a sudden two thousand and six,
two thousand and eight, they take control of college football,
and here lately it's been the Big Ten. I think
(25:27):
he's been a difficult I think the only way that
you're actually out of the game is because you don't
have a network television deal that can help you. Look
at Notre Dames, they've got that NBC deal and their
competitive every single year. That's going to be the ad
and have not Who's playing on television? Who play on ESPN, five, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Deshaun Foster got fired three games into his second season,
and full disclosure, Deshaun's a friend. We were actually high
school basketball teams. He's a freshman. I was a senior,
and but I mean three games into his second year.
Holy cow, they pulled. They pulled the ripcord. Virginia Tech.
(26:06):
And what's crazy about UCLA is they haven't started school yet.
So every player on that roster has thirty days they
can enter the transfer portal and if you have space
and can get them into school, you can actually add
a player who played at UCLA completely legal and they
can play it right away, you know, because they haven't
(26:27):
started school, so it has nothing to do with academics.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But what does it say about this landscape that now,
I mean Virginia Tech it's year four, but still three games.
In UCLA, it's year two, three games in. What does
it say about the landscape that we're making decisions this
early in the season in September, we're firing coaches, and
not for cause that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
People are doing their fiscal map now as it ain't
adding up if you want to compete at that level.
I think brit Pride was always of all the time.
He hasn't gotten off to a great start into the
last three years, and it was time for him to
go for DeShawn. I'm thinking you hired the guy that
everybody likes, and that's usually not the guy that you
should hire, because hey, we really love an alumnus as
(27:13):
a head coach. You know his heart's going to be
in it. But you were pretty damn good with Chiff
Kelly and they just didn't like it, and chick Kelly
didn't like it, so they parted. Now they get to
wash their hands of what they think is perhaps an
older way of having a head coach. Like when I
think about how we're going to go into the cycle,
you're going to be looking for a guy that can coach,
probably a rising coordinator. Will sign is my top candidate
(27:34):
for anybody if they can lure him out of Oregon.
I doubt it, because he's in line for a big
time job. But I think what it says about UCLA
is the Jena text. They need to get on the
ball light tap. They know that with revenue sharing online
and il been online for about four years now, give
or take, and the money continue to go up. You
need to have a head coach that is not only
able to see around corners and coach the team, but
(27:56):
that is builtful what college football is the coming and
what you're learning is aren't a whole lot of guys
that hunt of coaches that really want this job and
the way that has to be done. Now Now I'm
mc kenny, Billiam g J Kenny, Marcus Spreeingman, guys that
are in their late thirties and our company to be
in our early forties, and we're going we didn't work
this hard just to give up the job because they
(28:16):
changed the Wolves. No, I want to be a head coach.
Pelin Deshaun wanted to as well. I think what happened
there is the bet on we go ya Maliava. It's
a bad look because Julie Aguilar is falling out. You
had that guy, so now we get to get you
for evaluation. We get to say you don't know who
your quarterback should be because you have a guy, and
then you brought in a guy that they were happy
to get rid of and you can't play that. That's
(28:36):
I think really the ripcord. There you loose in Mexico
in the way that New Mexico is basically retinned Idaho vandals. Yeah,
they're gonna have a problem with that. But now you
get to go have a robust schirch and try to
find somebody that you see unless that fis Virginia Tech
quicker than you might if you fired that person in December.
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Really interesting to see what happens in Norman this weekend.
Thanks as always for being our guest.
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Speaker 2 (29:50):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I want to get to this, do you guys ever
watch first things first? Because I saw, you know, look,
it's Nick Writes a Kansas City home. That's his hometown.
He they talked the Chiefs more than anybody else, but
they unveiled a banner that said basically, tush push and
it ended in twenty twenty five, right started like twenty
(30:14):
twenty two, ended twenty twenty five. And I thought it
was brilliant because now that we're pointing out how hard
a play it is to officiate and how they do
miss some of the fall starts, their assessment, and I
agree with it is this is gonna be last year
it survived a vote.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Next year it will not.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Here's Eagle's offensive lineman Jordan Malata Miltta in Philadelphia when
he was asked about all the talk of the push
Push since Sunday's winterver Kent City.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I understand the outrage. What I don't understand is theam
using it as an excuse to why we won the game.
I think it's incredibly disrespectful to our defense and our
special teams who bowled out my brothers on defense, the
special teams who bought out that game, who had our
backs when we went moving the ball or we went
doing anything. When I see those things and they fly,
(31:08):
you know, they fly across my timeline here and there.
And I do my best to stay off social media.
But now that kind of irks me a little bit.
That pisces me off because we give so much to
this game and to kind of base of a short
yardage play that is a football play, and say that
we won the game off that, but not the not
(31:30):
how our defense played, not how our special teams have
played putting us in those positions. You know, I think
it's I think it's bull crap. I was gonna say
a lot of other stuff, but you know, I just
think it's rubbish. It's absolute rubbish, man. It makes me
makes my blood boy just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, I mean, listen, you can be as mad as
you want. Games are decided on short yardage plays, right,
Nothing decides games more and They've had this virtually unstoppable
play and you're starting to see again they got guys
either fall start jumping off sides, lining up in the
neutral zone, the center lining up in the neutral zone.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The the the net net to me is now it's
going to be called it'll be harder for them to run.
And most people's guess is this is the last year
of the toush push. Come up with The Doug Gottlieb Show,
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Speaker 2 (33:18):
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Speaker 5 (33:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just then announcement again, a thank you to the Buffalo
Bills who have hooked my guys up right, and I'd
love I'm eating again. They're being super nice and they
want to give me credit. That's not really credit. I
just gonna connect the dots and called and are you guys.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Fifty yard line seats?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yes we are, Doug, we are fifty yard line lower
ball ye falling. And I'll tell you what's the best
part about it is we are have the view of
what you would see on TV. So all of the
highlights that we can look back from this game years
later will not be the reverse angle like we won't
be on the other side. And so instead of going left,
(33:58):
they're going right. We will see it how the country
watches it tomorrow night and for years to come in highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Okay, So now here's the other thing. Okay, you guys
are for people to understand. I want to get this
real quick. So I want to get the press taking
a red eye, getting in there, gonna take a nap.
Are you gonna do we want to hook you up
with Bill's mafia or do you want to get in
and you want to try and get you pregame sideline.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
I think that I'm gonna let I'm gonna defer to
Jason on this. I think we may just go and
check everything out. I don't know if sideline is really needed,
but I'll defer to Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I just want to be a part of the common man.
I want to experience everything that Bill's fans experienced, So
we will definitely be in the in the parking lot.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, So here's what I need. Here's what I need.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If you're Bill's mafia or visiting or you know anybody
Bill's mafia, I need to just slide on it. Not
to my DMS, just regular regular Twitter, regular Instagram. Where
should the guys go? Dan Byer, what's your handles at?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Dan Byer on Fox?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
On It?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Jase Ja stew what's your handle.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
At Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, and you can just if you can't remember them,
can't find them, just tag me. I will make sure
they get it. But these guys need to feel what
it's really like to go to a game in Buffalo,
in this old in Orchard Park, and what Bill's Mafia
is really about.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And we're gonna check in on tomorrow's show with you
as well. We've already aligned that with Ryan Berschinger, who
will be producing the show.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
All right, let's get to the press, the press, Dan,
what you got.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Ben Johnson's got a lot to say, a lot to say,
including so much, so much as the Bears head coach
ways in on his team's practice.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
Habits, I think our practice habits are are yet to
reflect the championship caliber team.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Alight, all right, well, hey, hey, didn't you have training camp?
Couldn't she have worked that one out in training camp?
Speaker 7 (35:51):
What about the approach of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
And like I said, he took a big step from
week one to week two, I'm really expecting him to
do this same thing week two to week three. But
the fact of the matter is we're not gonna go
week one, week two, week three, all the way through
seventeen just like that. We're gonna have some hiccups along
the way, and we're I'm aware of that, but his
approach to the game right now is what it needs
(36:15):
to be. He's coming in, he's doing the work. Eventually,
these results will start speaking for themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Daniel Jeremiah joined us and said he thought on tape
he improved greatly from game one to game two.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
That one bad throw is the one that gets highlighted
the entire time. But you know that's a fair assessment
from a sharp eye in the NFL. One Daniel Jeremiah,
Bears have the Cowboys coming up. By the way, it
was kind of unfair that it was pointed out that
the NFC Offensive Player of the Week has come from
the team that's played the Bears the last two weeks,
(36:49):
because I have no idea how JJ McCarthy won at
Week one. I get Jared Goff in Week two, but
for some reason, it felt like there was this recency
bias because it was the last game of Week one
that he was bad for.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, hour of the game, yes, and they kind of
dialed up some throws, but yeah, that was that was
one of those wet.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 7 (37:07):
The forty nine ers may have Brock Purdy for Week
three limited in practice going to be today, said Kyle Shanahan.
The Niners head coach, says there's a chance that he
could return from the toe and shoulder injuries that forced
him to miss Week two against the Saints. Division showdown
between the Cardinals and Niners coming up Sunday in Santa.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Cardinals like quietly to and oh but they're just kind
of okay, So we'll see what that. By the way,
I was thinking about this, is any player in the NFL.
He's in a gigantic market, He's won a Super Bowl,
he plays for a really well respected coach. No one
mentions Matthew Stafford, who's been amazing through two weeks.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Is that's a weird one, right, Yes, I'm sorry, No,
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I know it wasn't part of what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But you're talking about NFC West and no one's talking
about the I mean, we haven't talked about the Rams
and he's been really good.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Well, if they beat the Eagles this weekend, which I
think they have a decent ants to, we'll be talking
about him on Monday.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
One quick word about Kyle Shanahan giving us any updates
on injuries. He's a liar, He's a proven liar. The
NFL should have a very least find him, if not
suspended him last year when he didn't tell us a
Christian McCaffrey was going to miss the season and all
the fantasy drafts had happened and everyone took him at
the top of their drafts. That's a fireable offense as
(38:24):
far as I'm concerned, and I will never believe an
injury report coming out of that camp.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
Jaden Daniels are the Commander's not going to practice until
Friday at the earliest because of his knee injury. So
Marcus Mariotto would be in line to start Jets one
of justin fields. He's out against the Buccaneers and Stefan Diggs,
wide receiver from the Patriots and girlfriend Cardi b expecting
their first child together. Doug back to you may get.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Out there and pressed that was the press. So will
she be Cardi C. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Down with the podcast, let's the interbonent podcast. Boys read
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