July 6, 2018 • 32 mins
Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox sit in for Doug Gottlieb and break down the latest chapter in the Kyrie vs. LeBron drama where Kyrie reportedly didn't want LeBron to return to Cleveland because apparently the Cavaliers were fine without the King. Dan and Jonas also look at the divorce that is coming down the line for Carmelo Anthony and the Thunder and where Carmelo might end up. Would a meet up with LeBron in Los Angeles be beneficial for everyone involved? Would a move to Houston be better for 'Melo? Also, FS1 soccer analyst and former U.S. World Cup member Eric Wynalda joins the show to break down the World Cup and tell you how to fix American soccer.
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This is the best of the Dune gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio and John Ramos boom on a Wednesday.
Oh No, it's a Friday, isn't it. Yeah, that's what
it is. I was thinking it was like a Wednesday.
It's a Wednesday in Alaska. Ah. The weekend is almost here,
scorching against southern California. It's been scorching across up much
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of the country for the last week or so, so
the full summer days, summer vacations in full swing. Nobody's
in school anymore. Everybody's out having fun. An NBA free
agency continues to bring us the fun this July. And
it's not just necessarily guys about Lebron James going to
the Lakers, but it always has something to do with
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Lebron James or Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs will dive
into that. But Kyrie Irving is in the news and
it's nothing that he did recently, but it's something that
was revealed recently about what Kyrie Irving did in the
asked this is what this is what makes the NBA
off season just in Jonathan just keeps getting better and better.
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Just I mean, there's just something new every day coming
out about who said what, who thought this? They wanted
to do this. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Everything is a leak. You can't I don't know how
you trust anybody in the NBA because you know eventually
that story is getting out. Somebody's gonna release it, somebody's
gonna leak it. You talked to one guy, is there
like a shelf life? Was that, Hey, wait two years
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before you release this bit of information that I give you.
And then they decided, all right, now is the right
time since he's no longer there, to to show how
Kyrie Irving really felt about Lebron James. There are more
leaks in the NBA than a twelve hour car ride
for a family vacation. That's where we're going here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. This is the leak that we
are talking about now in Cleveland, where there's so much
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to talk about. It mean, is there a better sports
talk city than Cleveland? From what we've gotten over the
last I don't know, five to seven years, heart, heartbreak
and crummy teams. I mean that's sports radio gold Man
Johnny Manzel to Baker Mayfield to the Indians and obviously
Lebron James and what has going on with the Calves.
Well on ninety two point three the Fan in Cleveland
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yesterday there was a round table with a couple of
guys who we know that have ended up covering the
NBA and covering the Cleveland Cavaliers. Jason Lloyd of The Athletic,
Dave McManaman of ESPN, Joe Varden of Cleveland dot com,
the local writer there. These guys have been on top
of what's been going on with the Calves for four
years and years, and yesterday during a round table, these
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points were brought up about Kyrie Irving and his time
with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Jason Lloyd of The Athletic said,
and I'm quoting, it has been made clear to him
by multiple people, Kyrie never wanted Lebron to come back
to Cleveland in the first place. Lloyd alludes to a
point when Lebron was with the Miami Heat of Lebron
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going up to Kyrie saying, keep and keep doing what
you're you're doing. You never know I could be back
here one day. Kyrie basically said, what is he talking about?
We don't need him, and then Dave mcmenaman said that
Kyrie Irving not only wanted a trade after the seventeen
season when they lost in the NBA Finals, but they
considered a trade immediately after the twenty sixteen season when
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the Cavaliers won a championship. They decided to keep it
in house and not go forward with it, but they
were talking about it at that time that Kyrie Irving
not only wanted out Jonas of Cleveland with Lebron James
after the title, but apparently never wanted Lebron there in
the first place. I'm not I'm not surprised because ultimately
he wanted away from it. Whether you blame Lebron James
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or you think Kyrie Irving's done because dumb because he
didn't want a team up with Lebron James is a
great player, whatever side of the fence you're on. Either way,
he clearly wanted out and he left a very successful
situation with a great player to go pursue something else.
And so the fact that he wanted it earlier, I
kind of get it. Man. When Lebron left and Kyrie
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Irving was the guy, they were bad. And you can
look at that from two ways. You can either say, uh,
from angle number one, well, they were bad when they
had Kyrie Irving and then they finally get good, so
clearly that guy doesn't have winning as his main focus.
Or you can look at it like, listen, man, while
you were away chasing championships in Miami in South Beach,
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I was here trying to figure this out. I was
here trying to grind and get this team back to
their winning ways and trying to work my ass off.
He even signed a deal before Lebron got there. Didn't
he sign a contract extension. I'm almost positive, like a
six year extension before Lebron got there, and then all
of a sudden, here's Lebron. I'd like to come back
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and play. I kind of get where he's coming from.
That he says, you were gone for all the bad times.
Now you're gonna come in and and it's going to
be forgotten, all of the stuff I had to go to.
I showed loyalty to this city by signing a contract extension,
and now you're gonna come in and take all the glory.
I kind of get where he's coming from. Here's here's
the thing, and the Calves, weren't they weren't any good.
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I mean, I remember, I remember going and this is
this will tell you how long ago. This was the
Super Bowl that the Seahawks and Broncos played in New York.
I went to a Knicks Calves game where it was
Kyrie Irving and Anthony Bennett led Cavaliers against the Carmelo
Anthony and j R. Smith Nix steam. That's that's what
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we had. But the Calves weren't any good at that point.
They they weren't. And I just think that this is
that was Kyrie Irving's young guy ego of I can
do this myself, that this is we've got, We'll have
the pieces will build around me. And I think that's
what it's about. And I think that I think that
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I agree with you in the sense Jonas that a
lot of young players coming to the league thinking that, hey,
I'm all a franchise needs. Kyrie was the number one
overall pick, had great talent. But in reality, when you
look at the progression of Kyrie and this is this
is what I think is important for for everything that
has gone on in Cleveland with Lebron leaving and Lebron
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staying and what's happened Lebron came home, won a championship
for the Cavaliers, But in that process, Kyrie Irving became
one heck of a player. And I don't think Kyrie
Irving becomes that type of player without Lebron James around him.
And and I don't think that it's just something that
you can brush aside and say I don't need I
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get Kyrie Irving wanting to run his own show and
having that confidence. I think he was misguided and thinking
as a rookie that they were going to to build
and win around him because they still stunk when he
was there for their first three years. I think that's misguided.
But I think Kyrie developed into the player that he
is because of Lebron James. I don't know that you
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can say that it was solely because of Lebron James.
Maybe it was just the development time and how many
years he had been there and he had learned enough
and he was ready to take that next step, whether
whether it was Lebron James or not. I mean, and
we'll never know, like you never actually know what would
have happened had he not come back, and how Kyrie
would have been had it just been Kyrie Irving and
nobody else and lu All Dang or whoever the hell
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else was in Cleveland at that time. But I just
I understand the idea of you bailed on this city.
I'm the guy that's here. I don't want you back.
I don't I don't need you. I just I can
understand that. And it makes a lot of sense when
you look back in retrospect and you say, why would
he want out when when he did? And I think
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it was for a couple of reasons. One, he did
want to have his own thing, he did want to
do his own thing. He wanted to take it into
another direction, take his career someplace else. And also he
knew what was coming up. Okay, he was there when
Lebron was not there and Lebron decided to come back.
He didn't want to be there on the back side
of that. When Lebron decided, I'm out of here. I've
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done what I need to do here, I'm gonna go
pursue other things. And so Kyrie Irving saw the riding
on the wall, and I think he tried to get
out early. You know, I remember Lebron was there for
years before Kyrie even came along, I know, you know, so,
so it's not like like Lebron's there to show up
like they were. There were six really good years of greatness.
And looking back at the Calvs win totals, I mean
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the the nineteen wins, Kyrie's I believe first year or
somewhere in that ballpark, but they maxed out at thirty
three before Lebron came. And now to see the type
of player that Kyrie is, and and and for all
of the the the talk about Lebron taking guys in
and out, and and Isaiah Thomas wanted to leave, and
look at how Jake Crowderd flourished with Uthah Jazz and
how good he was in Boston. I think that there
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are a lot of players, and Kyrie is one of
them that completely benefit for playing from playing with Lebron James.
Numbers may not be as high, but you even look
at a guy like to j R. Smith, Duane Wade
and Miami's points were down, but his four best years
of shooting the basketball were with Lebron James. There are
guys who may have to take a back seat, and
I think Kyrie is one of those guys that actually
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benefit from it benefited from le Lebron being there, of
being that number two guy. And I don't think Lebron
gets enough credit with that of being able to make
guys around him better because we hear about maybe some
petty things that go on and maybe his fault, but
I think he makes guys around him better. And I
don't think Kyrie is Kyrie without Lebron James. And so
that's what it's so difficult for me to sit there
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to think all along that looking back, if you're Kyrie, now,
would you really wanted out of Cleveland? Would you really
not want Lebron to be there in the first place?
I would have to say no. And but I also
can you can you at least sort of acknowledge the
idea that there was a vibe in Cleveland? And maybe
Kyrie bought into it a little bit and started believing
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it when Lebron left. Kyrie Irving was their first draft
pick after Lebron. If I'm not mistaken, it was sort
of coincided when Lebron left and they drafted Kyrie Irving. Um,
it was they had one season without here because he
was taken raft that summer, and so Kyrie Irving comes
into a situation where all he's hearing about from Cleveland,
from from media, whatever right or wrong is this guy
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bailed on us. We've got nothing here. He walked, he
turned his back on us, he made a big spectacle
of it. He burned us, we burned his jerseys. We
hate that guy. But you're the guy. And so I
could kind of understand. And I'm not saying I agree
with it. I'm not saying he wasn't better off with
Lebron James. I'm not saying he was a better player
than Lebron James. I can just understand where he's coming from,
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where psychologically it's been embedded in his mind since he
got to Cleveland, that that guy who walked away from
us is a bleephole and you're the guy now. And
then a couple of years later he says, hey, I
might becoming back. I kind of get. I just I
I can understand he's got to have where with all
I mean to realize what I mean, this is Lebron
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to coming off of four straight finals appearances back to
back seasons in two of the years that he was
playing in the NBA, Like you've got like people know
how good Kevin Durant is like when Kevin Durant goes
to Golden State play Thompson for as good as he is, Like,
all right, I've probably got to take a little back
seat here mentioning, you know, Kevin Love and Chris Bosh
and playing that third role. Their numbers went down as well.
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But Lebron is the guy like like, and so that's
why I think like the wherewith a like. I don't
want to say it's naive, but in a way, it's
maybe young Kyrie of being like, Okay, I'm better than
this guy, or heck, we don't need him the only
one thirty three games. I mean, you bring him in,
you're an automatic title contender. And that's where I think
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it's just misguided, and looking back on it, I think
Kyrie should be thankful that he got to play with
Lebron James because I don't think he's in the spot
that he is right now as a player. I think
they have and I also think Lebron James benefited from
having Kyrie Irving because he is the guy who hit
the shot. I think they both benefited from each other.
I just think Kyrie Irving it was the first time
you saw a teammate who had the guts or had
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was honest enough to speak out and say, I want
to go do my own thing. And so now what
it's done is it started to bring up the possibility of, Wow,
maybe this guy is sort of there's more that comes
along with Lebron James than just he's going to make
you a better player. Maybe some guys are just worn
out by the circus. Listen in the NBA Finals when
they're down two oh or three out of the Golden
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State Warriors. There were reports Kevin Love said it openly
at a press conference. There were other players on that
team who said it privately to reporters. Man, we really
miss Kyrie. And at the after the regular season opener
against Boston, I was waiting to see sort of how
they would respond to Kyrie Irving who wanted away from them,
and those guys looked sad that he was gone. I
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just think he had more poll in that locker room
and was maybe more well liked in that locker room
than some people realized, and that that may be the case,
but I don't think that's the issue here. Kyrie had
his I mean, shooting wise and just just looking at
the numbers here when he left Cleveland, he had the
best that in the final year with Lebron there, he
had his best numbers that he had in his career.
Points wise, shooting wise got even better in Boston. But
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that's what I'm talking about, like developing into that player,
and and I'm sure that they liked them. I'm sure
that they understood Heck, he hit the shot that really
that gave them the title in After the Warriors, in
Calfskin's score. So I have no doubt that he had
value and had value amongst the guys. But to think
that he could beat Kyrie Irving without the help of
Lebron James, and at one point felt that he never
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really wanted him there in the first place, it's it's
it's interesting to me, it's surprising, But I just don't
think that there's any way Kyrie gets to that level
without Lebron James, a guy that he didn't even want
the first place. I'm just not gonna sit here and
let you trash on Kyrie Irving and called naive just
because you didn't like Uncle Drew. I find that offense.
I've actually heard people say it's a much better movie
than I've given it credit for I will never watch
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that movie. I'd rather watch Killer Clowns from Outer Space
used to get in that stupid movie. Be sure to
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. A bit of
a curveball happening at the World Cup today. Belgium just
took out Brazil to one. The now face France of
the semifinals coming up on Tuesday to talk about that
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and so much more in the World Cup. Former member
of the US men's national team who took part in
three World Cups, Eric Whenalda joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Hey, Eric, think, So what's your coming on?
You guys? Get to watch it? Or were you too
busy working? We we were. We had it on in
the studio and it seemed like the last five minutes
were pretty chaotic as Brazil was trying to trying to
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even the score but ended up failing in their bid
to do so. Yeah, it was a good one. It
was a good It was everything that was It was
bill to be uh and believe it or not, I
still think tomorrow is gonna be crazy wild come so far?
Why is tomorrow going to be better than today from
what we just saw? Because I think, um, the interest
founding this English team has been you know, it's never
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been this high. I think that they for the first
time in a long time. Maybe you call luck of
the draw or just finding your form at the right
time or lady luck. I don't care what you call it.
I think, Uh, this English team is going to have
everybody on the edge of their seat tomorrow because there's
they have a couple of guys that haven't even really
played well yet, um, and they're do for a good
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performance and I think it's it's gonna catch people off.
Sweden's there for the tanking. So now today was great,
It's well, I was gonna be better now. Erica and
I both live in Ventura County. Dan he's from West
like I'm from Thousand Oaks. We are bitter rivals. Bitter rivals,
I know, lew and Orange versus Great. We we don't
like to tether the reality. Yeah it's you ever seen
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the outsiders, They're the socials or the greasers the streets
Thousand Oaks. I'm telling you, man, We've got a little
grease um. But I know that you go to there's
a place called crown an Acre, which is an English
and people go nuts for it. Do you feel like
this English team is starting to captivate a lot of
America or is there some bitterness like there was towards Mexico. No,
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it's a little different. I think that, Um, you know,
the English Americans or the American ing or whatever. Everybody's
got a little bit of English heritage to to a
certain extent um. It's just just it's just different. It's
a different culture. It's a little bit more fun, a
little bit more bander um, and there's just a sense
of humor that goes along with it. I think. I
think the reason why Mexico always loses is they take
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it too damn seriously at some point and then they
freak out and their nerves takeover and they can't they
can't finish the deal. I don't think that will be
the case with uh, this English side, And I love
going there kind of anchors creat If you don't know
where we're talking about, tontosandoats Bolivard. Honestly, guys, it's like
point nine miles from my house. So I haven't had
to walk home yet, but I have spent, uh, you know,
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plenty of times. I like the point nine. You could
have just said about a mile, but said you've obviously
GPS it to know the exact distance to to get there. Yes,
Eric Winalda joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Jonas Knox, I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug. So, uh,
how we give a disappointment for Brazil? Was this a
team that that should have have won the World Cup?
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Now that they're out in the quarterfinals, How big of
a disappointment was this? Well, it's it's it's pretty big.
But I mean, guys, if you think about it, some
of the matchups just suited Belgium as did it for Switzerland.
So I mean when when some of these styles of
play and philosophy is kind of when they when they
hit a crash course, you realize that they look, they've
seen for me and you know they've seen Patino, they've
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seen Fernandino Pauline, they know these guys. They it's not
like it's it's gonna be anything that's gonna throw them off.
And when Neymar has a bad day, uh, you've got
a chance. Courtois was off the hook. I think he
ended up with twelve saves, which is only second to
Tommy Howard's performance of you know, last World Cup against
against Belgian Tech. But I think in this particular game,
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they're gonna walk away and say to themselves, you know what,
we we weren't good enough on the day. In Belgium
is a great team. They have Lukaku, has are Uh
and de Bruin in the middle of the field. Slaney
played out of his skin today. I mean everyone criticized
is that guy. But this was always a team that
if they put it together, we knew they were gonna
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be hard to beat. Um, so it's it's it's but
is I mean all the teams less are basically Europe
So it's uh, it's this is a weird one. This
is This is now going to be a case of
who can just come up with the best performance to
to see them through. Croatia is gonna beat Russia. Sorry, Russia,
it's over a great ride. Great that the home the
host country did well. Uh. And then I think England,
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So to me, it looks like it's gonna be England, Croatia, Uh,
Belgium of course in France So let's think about that guy.
This is France versus Belgium. It's it's gotta be you
could google it. I don't know, but I've done this drive.
It's got to be less than two hundred miles from
Belgium from Brussels to Terrace. That's amazing. That's like if
if I got in my car and decided to drive
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to um San Diego right now, that's about how long
it would take me. So it's this is pretty cool.
That's gonna be a big matchup. He played in three
World Cups for the US National Soccer Hall of Famer
Eric Naldo with US here on fs are Dan Buyer
Jonas knocks in for gott Leeve here on Fox Sports Radio.
So we hear a lot of people hype up and
they're very positive about the US soccer program and where
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it's headed. And even though they missed out, You've always
been brutally honest. You didn't. You don't care who it offends.
You'll speak the truth regardless of what it will impact.
What is the truth about American soccer and where it
stands we're in the world and its status in the
world right now? Well, I mean this, we sure pick
the wrong World Cup to be sitting out. And I'll
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tell you that with all the way that things have
panned out for some of these countries, but look, the
reason why we're not in this thing is because of
the competitive nature of our league. Every no one want
to to say that everyone thinks that everything's great and
they have different versions of success, and we're breathing our
players for mediocrity. There is no real tests for our guys,
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and then what happens is is we go into real
competition and we've never been punched in the mouth before
and we don't know how to react and we end
up losing. To turn it out in Tobago, it was
again the size of San Diego. So it's it's a
scenario where we've got to figure out the making our
league better domestically. We have to we have to have
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our players and better better pockets of the world testing
themselves every day in order for us to be a
better soccer nation. So I think there's ways to achieve that.
It's a longer conversation, but um MLS needs to take
a good long look in the mirror and realize that
this isn't a hole on us soccer. Our League didn't
good enough. I know it's a longer conversation, but what
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would be one way if you had to pick one,
and you can only pick one, that would advance the
United States program from where it is now to where
you want to see it, What would be the one
thing you do? Oh, I don't know, stop investing in
these guys who are showing up in a wheelchair. I
mean maybe that would be wanted. And you know, if
you're gonna give Wayne Rooney twelve million dollars, let's think
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about all all the places that we could have spent
that money on young Americans. I love Laton, He's great,
he's funny, he loves himself. If he were chocolate, he'd
eat himself. But that the reality is we should have
been spending our money on American players, not has been
for thirty eight years old waiting for their fraid rubber
band a c L to go. So that's that's how
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I feel. I want to see us appropriately spend our
money to make sure that we get better, not not
continue to have this country club retirement home for for
what all that has been from Europe, Eric would all
the joining us here on Fox Sports Radio quickly from
Paris to to up Brussels three hours, sixteen minutes. Yeah, yeah,
So there you go. Dan, the way you drive, you'd
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be there in two hours and foot and just zooming
in and out of the four oh five. You can't
catch me unless you catch my personalized place. That's a
bye bye, That's that's what I drive. Hey, in eight
in eight years, we know it's coming. It's coming to
the US in the joint bid of Mexico and Canada,
but also the expanded field. Seeing what you saw this year,
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is this a bad sign of things to come when
this field expands to well, I mean that's a great
that's a great topic. But I think what this also
is telling us is that there are certain pockets of
the world who are getting their act together and making
it more competitive. No one would have thought that we'd
be in the scenario maybe eight years ago, that Belgium
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would would be in the spot but there and it
would have been the likes of a Portugal or or
in Italy or the Netherlands. And there's always certain places
that seem to always be challengers in a World Cup.
But I think I know looking at it now and
going across the Croatious in their Russia had a pretty
good run. Sweden is some of the something to talk
about your way, I think in the in the you know,
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in the in the the first couple of games, we
saw some bad performances out of our region, with Costa
Rica not doing well. Egypt was was disappointing. Saudi Arabia
and Panama were all easy games for everybody. But then
again guys, Korea beat Germany, so it's it opens it up.
Was given the eight years. But you know, when when
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certain countries start to get their act together, it's gonna
make it better in the end. It's gonna make it better.
Easier to get in, of course, but I think once
the competition starts we'll get We'll get just as much.
It's not more enjoyment out of the next one. The
next couple of its top if it all goes well,
the last one for me. For Eric win Alda played
in three World Cups for the US National Soccer Hall
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of Famer. Here on Fox Sports Radio, neymar diving Americans
who are just now seeing it for the first time
in four years, who have never seen him play before.
They're outraged by the diving, the theatrics. What is What
is your opinion on that? How would you react to
that if you were playing against him. I'll give you
a real quick story, right right. I once did that,
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and I went down on the ground, pretending like I
was dying and held my face. I got a phone
call from my dad, who he never does that, and
he says her, why don't you come by the house?
So I dropped by. My mom, grabbed your purse, walked
right past me and said, good luck, go sit down.
I got something for you. He rolled the game and
he showed me over and over again, pretending that I
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was hurt, and they looked at me and he says,
I'm telling you right now, that's my name on the
back of your shirt. If you ever do that again,
you are not welcome in this home. That is just
not anything that I want to be related to. Are
we clear? I never dove again. This is the biggest
problem we have in the game. It is is a
massive problem. They need to be fine. We have the
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ability to to review stuff on V A R and
on video and say look how bad this was this
this simulation. I'm them. They're rich people. You hit their
wall hard and they'll stop doing it. Stop doing absolutely amazing.
He's Eric when all played in three World Cups for
remember the US men's national team and our friend here
on Fox Sports Radio. Eric and I had a Twitter
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battle once on followers. Yeah, years back. It was a
race to six thousand. Um, I want, what are you
at now? I'm yeah, you know, I'm not even in
five digits yet. So we're yeah, we're all at hundred.
You know, hundred, that's all. That's all we've got. You.
You flew past me with white speed. Yes, it's Westlake, man.
That's how they work out there. They're more popular than
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t o. It's just a yeah, it's fistocious. You go
back to that. I plan on running to run US soccer,
so just so you know, so hopefully that'll you know,
turn things around for me a little bit as well. Well.
That gives us a reason to play golf. I think
that we'll get out alright, let's do it. Thanks Eric,
appreciate it, and yeah, enjoy the rest of the World Cup.
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One thing that can't be mistaken is Carmelo Anthony's future
in Oklahoma City, where there doesn't look like there's going
to be One reports saying that the Thunder and Carmelo
are set to work out some sort of parting of
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the ways, whether it be a via a trade or
be a buyout of his contract where he's due twenty
seven million dollars for the upcoming season. Earlier on the show,
we spoke with Jordan Schultz, who is the co host
of the podcast with c J McCollum, The Pull Up Podcast,
and Jordan talked about what's next for Carmelo Anthony. Yeah,
I've been speaking to a sources to Carmelo all day
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about potential spots because obviously it's not a surprise that
he gets fought out. I think everybody kind of expected that. Uh.
I think right now, the Lakers and Rockets both make
a lot of sense. Um, you know, I think the
fact that the Lakers have have a need for a
like a trail fallball power four that can make shots
be huge. And then I think you consider the fact
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of the Rockets loose Trevor reasa Um and they need
a guy that can make shots from the perimeter, from
the the midpost, and Carmelo is not the type of
defender and nor is he that type of the threat
that he used to be. But I think both of
those teams make sense. I think a wild park potentially
could be Philadelphia, just because you can really see him
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stilling a need for for the Sixers in terms of
what what they need shooting, you know, wing depths, and
he can play that three four and that's really where
they've kind of faltered. So I would look at those
three teams and I think probably the favorite right now
with the l A And that was Jordan's Schultz earlier
with us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
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Sports Radio. He's Jona Sknocks. I'm Dan Buyer. I didn't
like Boogie Cousins the Golden State. I don't like Carmelo
Anthony to the Houston Rockets. I don't you don't you
don't replace Trevor Reasa just because Carmelo can kind of
shoot the ball, there's zero oh help defensively, I don't
think that that would be a good mix for the Lakers.
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And I know I tweeted this, I shouldn't say tweeted this.
I searched this in Twitter I just typed in Mellow
Jonas earlier today. The first the result was Mellow to
the Lakers, then Mellow Warriors, and then just Mellow. People
are wondering, yeah, Melow to the Lakers, Mellow possibly to
the Warriors, but to the Lakers was the biggest one.
And I see a lot of backlash. Do it what
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one year deal? Shooting and play with Lebron. Maybe Lebron
can keep him in check. It's really the only thing
that Carmelo can do is actually three point percentage was
one of his better years this past year in Oklahoma City.
I don't think. I don't really actually see how it
could hurt or destroy the Lakers if Carmelo Anthony came
up and can somebody double check in the back if
Melo Yellow was the car sponsor that Rowdy Burns had
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in Days of Thunder, just amaze. Since we're on the
top of Mellow, it will never fit anywhere else on
sports radio. That's that's the only request we have. Where
would he Is there a place in the league that
you think he carries enough name value that at least
he could sell some tickets in because I don't know
that and he could he could right now, still gonna
get you again. Yeah, it may take him thirty eight shots.
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But that, you know, that's with with some guys, like
if at least Lebron is in the town or on
his team where he would maybe put him in check.
We you know, last year when he made the joke
about coming off the bench, and we had kind of
talked about it before the show. I thought it was
a funny line, and he's you know, it's like they
want me to come off the bench with With Carmelo,
there was nobody really there in Oklahoma City that was
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going to check him, if you will. With him being
friends with Lebron and and maybe in Carmelo's mind they're
on the same level, but he may have thought that
he was on a different level level than Russell Westbrook
and Paul George in Oklahoma City. Maybe just maybe that
would put him in some sort of place with the
Lakers where it wouldn't be. But yeah, I mean, it's
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it's all he does is shoot. Really, I mean, that's
that's what you've got with Carmelo Anthony. So if if
you were to put him in Canna, I don't know.
I always used Memphis as an example. I don't think
it draws tickets. Um, I don't think he's that name anymore.
Is he kind of like Adrian Peterson to where you
know he can still probably play, but you just don't
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know whether or not you want him around. It seems
like that's kind of what's happened with Adrian Peterson to
where I'll bet he could still play. You see some
videos of him training and working out. It seems like
he can still play, but for some reason nobody wants
him around. He reminds me of I don't I don't
want to say, because Mike Wallace actually had some somewhat
decent years where all Mike Wallace you thought was just
gonna catch an a yard touchdown the anchor or the
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the wide receiver, where it was just all right, let's
just chuck it deep and hope that he that he
catches it. That's what I think of, Like Carmel, like,
you don't like you're you're not bringing in Mike Wallace
to block or to get that first down, to move
the chains. You're just like, all right, maybe he can
bring oh we know what John Ramos has been doing
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that and uh so I I I just think there's
such limited upside and with his ego and with who
he is and he's you know, I mean there's there's
just limits with what you've got with Carmelo Anthony. Yeah,
I I just it's amazing a guy that can still
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get you twenty three game and you're right it could
take a nine shots. But that he you couldn't sell
him to a fan base anywhere, like a team that
that's maybe starving for some star potential or or look
if he says, hey, I'll come off the bench, I
have no problem coming off the bench. Remember Joe Johnson
was pretty effective in Utah. Um, Joe Johnson had some
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decent years. He could score when he was coming off
the bench or when he wasn't that lead primary role.
I just this is my mind that he didn't anything.
This is how bad it got from Mellow in Oklahoma
City and on a team with Russell Westbrook there, we
were like, man, Mellow shoots a lot of mrs like
you've got Russell Westbrook there who isn't necessarily known as
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the most efficient shot taker at times. That's how bad
it got from Mellow in Okay. See a summer's here,
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This is the best of the Dune gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio and John Ramos boom on a Wednesday.
Oh No, it's a Friday, isn't it. Yeah, that's what
it is. I was thinking it was like a Wednesday.
It's a Wednesday in Alaska. Ah. The weekend is almost here,
scorching against southern California. It's been scorching across up much
(00:23):
of the country for the last week or so, so
the full summer days, summer vacations in full swing. Nobody's
in school anymore. Everybody's out having fun. An NBA free
agency continues to bring us the fun this July. And
it's not just necessarily guys about Lebron James going to
the Lakers, but it always has something to do with
(00:44):
Lebron James or Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs will dive
into that. But Kyrie Irving is in the news and
it's nothing that he did recently, but it's something that
was revealed recently about what Kyrie Irving did in the
asked this is what this is what makes the NBA
off season just in Jonathan just keeps getting better and better.
(01:05):
Just I mean, there's just something new every day coming
out about who said what, who thought this? They wanted
to do this. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Everything is a leak. You can't I don't know how
you trust anybody in the NBA because you know eventually
that story is getting out. Somebody's gonna release it, somebody's
gonna leak it. You talked to one guy, is there
like a shelf life? Was that, Hey, wait two years
(01:27):
before you release this bit of information that I give you.
And then they decided, all right, now is the right
time since he's no longer there, to to show how
Kyrie Irving really felt about Lebron James. There are more
leaks in the NBA than a twelve hour car ride
for a family vacation. That's where we're going here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. This is the leak that we
are talking about now in Cleveland, where there's so much
(01:51):
to talk about. It mean, is there a better sports
talk city than Cleveland? From what we've gotten over the
last I don't know, five to seven years, heart, heartbreak
and crummy teams. I mean that's sports radio gold Man
Johnny Manzel to Baker Mayfield to the Indians and obviously
Lebron James and what has going on with the Calves.
Well on ninety two point three the Fan in Cleveland
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yesterday there was a round table with a couple of
guys who we know that have ended up covering the
NBA and covering the Cleveland Cavaliers. Jason Lloyd of The Athletic,
Dave McManaman of ESPN, Joe Varden of Cleveland dot com,
the local writer there. These guys have been on top
of what's been going on with the Calves for four
years and years, and yesterday during a round table, these
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points were brought up about Kyrie Irving and his time
with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Jason Lloyd of The Athletic said,
and I'm quoting, it has been made clear to him
by multiple people, Kyrie never wanted Lebron to come back
to Cleveland in the first place. Lloyd alludes to a
point when Lebron was with the Miami Heat of Lebron
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going up to Kyrie saying, keep and keep doing what
you're you're doing. You never know I could be back
here one day. Kyrie basically said, what is he talking about?
We don't need him, and then Dave mcmenaman said that
Kyrie Irving not only wanted a trade after the seventeen
season when they lost in the NBA Finals, but they
considered a trade immediately after the twenty sixteen season when
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the Cavaliers won a championship. They decided to keep it
in house and not go forward with it, but they
were talking about it at that time that Kyrie Irving
not only wanted out Jonas of Cleveland with Lebron James
after the title, but apparently never wanted Lebron there in
the first place. I'm not I'm not surprised because ultimately
he wanted away from it. Whether you blame Lebron James
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or you think Kyrie Irving's done because dumb because he
didn't want a team up with Lebron James is a
great player, whatever side of the fence you're on. Either way,
he clearly wanted out and he left a very successful
situation with a great player to go pursue something else.
And so the fact that he wanted it earlier, I
kind of get it. Man. When Lebron left and Kyrie
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Irving was the guy, they were bad. And you can
look at that from two ways. You can either say, uh,
from angle number one, well, they were bad when they
had Kyrie Irving and then they finally get good, so
clearly that guy doesn't have winning as his main focus.
Or you can look at it like, listen, man, while
you were away chasing championships in Miami in South Beach,
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I was here trying to figure this out. I was
here trying to grind and get this team back to
their winning ways and trying to work my ass off.
He even signed a deal before Lebron got there. Didn't
he sign a contract extension. I'm almost positive, like a
six year extension before Lebron got there, and then all
of a sudden, here's Lebron. I'd like to come back
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and play. I kind of get where he's coming from.
That he says, you were gone for all the bad times.
Now you're gonna come in and and it's going to
be forgotten, all of the stuff I had to go to.
I showed loyalty to this city by signing a contract extension,
and now you're gonna come in and take all the glory.
I kind of get where he's coming from. Here's here's
the thing, and the Calves, weren't they weren't any good.
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I mean, I remember, I remember going and this is
this will tell you how long ago. This was the
Super Bowl that the Seahawks and Broncos played in New York.
I went to a Knicks Calves game where it was
Kyrie Irving and Anthony Bennett led Cavaliers against the Carmelo
Anthony and j R. Smith Nix steam. That's that's what
(05:35):
we had. But the Calves weren't any good at that point.
They they weren't. And I just think that this is
that was Kyrie Irving's young guy ego of I can
do this myself, that this is we've got, We'll have
the pieces will build around me. And I think that's
what it's about. And I think that I think that
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I agree with you in the sense Jonas that a
lot of young players coming to the league thinking that, hey,
I'm all a franchise needs. Kyrie was the number one
overall pick, had great talent. But in reality, when you
look at the progression of Kyrie and this is this
is what I think is important for for everything that
has gone on in Cleveland with Lebron leaving and Lebron
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staying and what's happened Lebron came home, won a championship
for the Cavaliers, But in that process, Kyrie Irving became
one heck of a player. And I don't think Kyrie
Irving becomes that type of player without Lebron James around him.
And and I don't think that it's just something that
you can brush aside and say I don't need I
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get Kyrie Irving wanting to run his own show and
having that confidence. I think he was misguided and thinking
as a rookie that they were going to to build
and win around him because they still stunk when he
was there for their first three years. I think that's misguided.
But I think Kyrie developed into the player that he
is because of Lebron James. I don't know that you
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can say that it was solely because of Lebron James.
Maybe it was just the development time and how many
years he had been there and he had learned enough
and he was ready to take that next step, whether
whether it was Lebron James or not. I mean, and
we'll never know, like you never actually know what would
have happened had he not come back, and how Kyrie
would have been had it just been Kyrie Irving and
nobody else and lu All Dang or whoever the hell
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else was in Cleveland at that time. But I just
I understand the idea of you bailed on this city.
I'm the guy that's here. I don't want you back.
I don't I don't need you. I just I can
understand that. And it makes a lot of sense when
you look back in retrospect and you say, why would
he want out when when he did? And I think
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it was for a couple of reasons. One, he did
want to have his own thing, he did want to
do his own thing. He wanted to take it into
another direction, take his career someplace else. And also he
knew what was coming up. Okay, he was there when
Lebron was not there and Lebron decided to come back.
He didn't want to be there on the back side
of that. When Lebron decided, I'm out of here. I've
(08:06):
done what I need to do here, I'm gonna go
pursue other things. And so Kyrie Irving saw the riding
on the wall, and I think he tried to get
out early. You know, I remember Lebron was there for
years before Kyrie even came along, I know, you know, so,
so it's not like like Lebron's there to show up
like they were. There were six really good years of greatness.
And looking back at the Calvs win totals, I mean
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the the nineteen wins, Kyrie's I believe first year or
somewhere in that ballpark, but they maxed out at thirty
three before Lebron came. And now to see the type
of player that Kyrie is, and and and for all
of the the the talk about Lebron taking guys in
and out, and and Isaiah Thomas wanted to leave, and
look at how Jake Crowderd flourished with Uthah Jazz and
how good he was in Boston. I think that there
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are a lot of players, and Kyrie is one of
them that completely benefit for playing from playing with Lebron James.
Numbers may not be as high, but you even look
at a guy like to j R. Smith, Duane Wade
and Miami's points were down, but his four best years
of shooting the basketball were with Lebron James. There are
guys who may have to take a back seat, and
I think Kyrie is one of those guys that actually
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benefit from it benefited from le Lebron being there, of
being that number two guy. And I don't think Lebron
gets enough credit with that of being able to make
guys around him better because we hear about maybe some
petty things that go on and maybe his fault, but
I think he makes guys around him better. And I
don't think Kyrie is Kyrie without Lebron James. And so
that's what it's so difficult for me to sit there
(09:33):
to think all along that looking back, if you're Kyrie, now,
would you really wanted out of Cleveland? Would you really
not want Lebron to be there in the first place?
I would have to say no. And but I also
can you can you at least sort of acknowledge the
idea that there was a vibe in Cleveland? And maybe
Kyrie bought into it a little bit and started believing
(09:55):
it when Lebron left. Kyrie Irving was their first draft
pick after Lebron. If I'm not mistaken, it was sort
of coincided when Lebron left and they drafted Kyrie Irving. Um,
it was they had one season without here because he
was taken raft that summer, and so Kyrie Irving comes
into a situation where all he's hearing about from Cleveland,
from from media, whatever right or wrong is this guy
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bailed on us. We've got nothing here. He walked, he
turned his back on us, he made a big spectacle
of it. He burned us, we burned his jerseys. We
hate that guy. But you're the guy. And so I
could kind of understand. And I'm not saying I agree
with it. I'm not saying he wasn't better off with
Lebron James. I'm not saying he was a better player
than Lebron James. I can just understand where he's coming from,
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where psychologically it's been embedded in his mind since he
got to Cleveland, that that guy who walked away from
us is a bleephole and you're the guy now. And
then a couple of years later he says, hey, I
might becoming back. I kind of get. I just I
I can understand he's got to have where with all
I mean to realize what I mean, this is Lebron
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to coming off of four straight finals appearances back to
back seasons in two of the years that he was
playing in the NBA, Like you've got like people know
how good Kevin Durant is like when Kevin Durant goes
to Golden State play Thompson for as good as he is, Like,
all right, I've probably got to take a little back
seat here mentioning, you know, Kevin Love and Chris Bosh
and playing that third role. Their numbers went down as well.
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But Lebron is the guy like like, and so that's
why I think like the wherewith a like. I don't
want to say it's naive, but in a way, it's
maybe young Kyrie of being like, Okay, I'm better than
this guy, or heck, we don't need him the only
one thirty three games. I mean, you bring him in,
you're an automatic title contender. And that's where I think
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it's just misguided, and looking back on it, I think
Kyrie should be thankful that he got to play with
Lebron James because I don't think he's in the spot
that he is right now as a player. I think
they have and I also think Lebron James benefited from
having Kyrie Irving because he is the guy who hit
the shot. I think they both benefited from each other.
I just think Kyrie Irving it was the first time
you saw a teammate who had the guts or had
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was honest enough to speak out and say, I want
to go do my own thing. And so now what
it's done is it started to bring up the possibility of, Wow,
maybe this guy is sort of there's more that comes
along with Lebron James than just he's going to make
you a better player. Maybe some guys are just worn
out by the circus. Listen in the NBA Finals when
they're down two oh or three out of the Golden
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State Warriors. There were reports Kevin Love said it openly
at a press conference. There were other players on that
team who said it privately to reporters. Man, we really
miss Kyrie. And at the after the regular season opener
against Boston, I was waiting to see sort of how
they would respond to Kyrie Irving who wanted away from them,
and those guys looked sad that he was gone. I
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just think he had more poll in that locker room
and was maybe more well liked in that locker room
than some people realized, and that that may be the case,
but I don't think that's the issue here. Kyrie had
his I mean, shooting wise and just just looking at
the numbers here when he left Cleveland, he had the
best that in the final year with Lebron there, he
had his best numbers that he had in his career.
Points wise, shooting wise got even better in Boston. But
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that's what I'm talking about, like developing into that player,
and and I'm sure that they liked them. I'm sure
that they understood Heck, he hit the shot that really
that gave them the title in After the Warriors, in
Calfskin's score. So I have no doubt that he had
value and had value amongst the guys. But to think
that he could beat Kyrie Irving without the help of
Lebron James, and at one point felt that he never
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really wanted him there in the first place, it's it's
it's interesting to me, it's surprising, But I just don't
think that there's any way Kyrie gets to that level
without Lebron James, a guy that he didn't even want
the first place. I'm just not gonna sit here and
let you trash on Kyrie Irving and called naive just
because you didn't like Uncle Drew. I find that offense.
I've actually heard people say it's a much better movie
than I've given it credit for I will never watch
(13:57):
that movie. I'd rather watch Killer Clowns from Outer Space
used to get in that stupid movie. Be sure to
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. A bit of
a curveball happening at the World Cup today. Belgium just
took out Brazil to one. The now face France of
the semifinals coming up on Tuesday to talk about that
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and so much more in the World Cup. Former member
of the US men's national team who took part in
three World Cups, Eric Whenalda joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Hey, Eric, think, So what's your coming on?
You guys? Get to watch it? Or were you too
busy working? We we were. We had it on in
the studio and it seemed like the last five minutes
were pretty chaotic as Brazil was trying to trying to
(14:40):
even the score but ended up failing in their bid
to do so. Yeah, it was a good one. It
was a good It was everything that was It was
bill to be uh and believe it or not, I
still think tomorrow is gonna be crazy wild come so far?
Why is tomorrow going to be better than today from
what we just saw? Because I think, um, the interest
founding this English team has been you know, it's never
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been this high. I think that they for the first
time in a long time. Maybe you call luck of
the draw or just finding your form at the right
time or lady luck. I don't care what you call it.
I think, Uh, this English team is going to have
everybody on the edge of their seat tomorrow because there's
they have a couple of guys that haven't even really
played well yet, um, and they're do for a good
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performance and I think it's it's gonna catch people off.
Sweden's there for the tanking. So now today was great,
It's well, I was gonna be better now. Erica and
I both live in Ventura County. Dan he's from West
like I'm from Thousand Oaks. We are bitter rivals. Bitter rivals,
I know, lew and Orange versus Great. We we don't
like to tether the reality. Yeah it's you ever seen
(15:46):
the outsiders, They're the socials or the greasers the streets
Thousand Oaks. I'm telling you, man, We've got a little
grease um. But I know that you go to there's
a place called crown an Acre, which is an English
and people go nuts for it. Do you feel like
this English team is starting to captivate a lot of
America or is there some bitterness like there was towards Mexico. No,
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it's a little different. I think that, Um, you know,
the English Americans or the American ing or whatever. Everybody's
got a little bit of English heritage to to a
certain extent um. It's just just it's just different. It's
a different culture. It's a little bit more fun, a
little bit more bander um, and there's just a sense
of humor that goes along with it. I think. I
think the reason why Mexico always loses is they take
(16:32):
it too damn seriously at some point and then they
freak out and their nerves takeover and they can't they
can't finish the deal. I don't think that will be
the case with uh, this English side, And I love
going there kind of anchors creat If you don't know
where we're talking about, tontosandoats Bolivard. Honestly, guys, it's like
point nine miles from my house. So I haven't had
to walk home yet, but I have spent, uh, you know,
(16:55):
plenty of times. I like the point nine. You could
have just said about a mile, but said you've obviously
GPS it to know the exact distance to to get there. Yes,
Eric Winalda joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Jonas Knox, I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug. So, uh,
how we give a disappointment for Brazil? Was this a
team that that should have have won the World Cup?
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Now that they're out in the quarterfinals, How big of
a disappointment was this? Well, it's it's it's pretty big.
But I mean, guys, if you think about it, some
of the matchups just suited Belgium as did it for Switzerland.
So I mean when when some of these styles of
play and philosophy is kind of when they when they
hit a crash course, you realize that they look, they've
seen for me and you know they've seen Patino, they've
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seen Fernandino Pauline, they know these guys. They it's not
like it's it's gonna be anything that's gonna throw them off.
And when Neymar has a bad day, uh, you've got
a chance. Courtois was off the hook. I think he
ended up with twelve saves, which is only second to
Tommy Howard's performance of you know, last World Cup against
against Belgian Tech. But I think in this particular game,
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they're gonna walk away and say to themselves, you know what,
we we weren't good enough on the day. In Belgium
is a great team. They have Lukaku, has are Uh
and de Bruin in the middle of the field. Slaney
played out of his skin today. I mean everyone criticized
is that guy. But this was always a team that
if they put it together, we knew they were gonna
(18:22):
be hard to beat. Um, so it's it's it's but
is I mean all the teams less are basically Europe
So it's uh, it's this is a weird one. This
is This is now going to be a case of
who can just come up with the best performance to
to see them through. Croatia is gonna beat Russia. Sorry, Russia,
it's over a great ride. Great that the home the
host country did well. Uh. And then I think England,
(18:45):
So to me, it looks like it's gonna be England, Croatia, Uh,
Belgium of course in France So let's think about that guy.
This is France versus Belgium. It's it's gotta be you
could google it. I don't know, but I've done this drive.
It's got to be less than two hundred miles from
Belgium from Brussels to Terrace. That's amazing. That's like if
if I got in my car and decided to drive
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to um San Diego right now, that's about how long
it would take me. So it's this is pretty cool.
That's gonna be a big matchup. He played in three
World Cups for the US National Soccer Hall of Famer
Eric Naldo with US here on fs are Dan Buyer
Jonas knocks in for gott Leeve here on Fox Sports Radio.
So we hear a lot of people hype up and
they're very positive about the US soccer program and where
(19:29):
it's headed. And even though they missed out, You've always
been brutally honest. You didn't. You don't care who it offends.
You'll speak the truth regardless of what it will impact.
What is the truth about American soccer and where it
stands we're in the world and its status in the
world right now? Well, I mean this, we sure pick
the wrong World Cup to be sitting out. And I'll
(19:49):
tell you that with all the way that things have
panned out for some of these countries, but look, the
reason why we're not in this thing is because of
the competitive nature of our league. Every no one want
to to say that everyone thinks that everything's great and
they have different versions of success, and we're breathing our
players for mediocrity. There is no real tests for our guys,
(20:12):
and then what happens is is we go into real
competition and we've never been punched in the mouth before
and we don't know how to react and we end
up losing. To turn it out in Tobago, it was
again the size of San Diego. So it's it's a
scenario where we've got to figure out the making our
league better domestically. We have to we have to have
(20:34):
our players and better better pockets of the world testing
themselves every day in order for us to be a
better soccer nation. So I think there's ways to achieve that.
It's a longer conversation, but um MLS needs to take
a good long look in the mirror and realize that
this isn't a hole on us soccer. Our League didn't
good enough. I know it's a longer conversation, but what
(20:54):
would be one way if you had to pick one,
and you can only pick one, that would advance the
United States program from where it is now to where
you want to see it, What would be the one
thing you do? Oh, I don't know, stop investing in
these guys who are showing up in a wheelchair. I
mean maybe that would be wanted. And you know, if
you're gonna give Wayne Rooney twelve million dollars, let's think
(21:15):
about all all the places that we could have spent
that money on young Americans. I love Laton, He's great,
he's funny, he loves himself. If he were chocolate, he'd
eat himself. But that the reality is we should have
been spending our money on American players, not has been
for thirty eight years old waiting for their fraid rubber
band a c L to go. So that's that's how
(21:35):
I feel. I want to see us appropriately spend our
money to make sure that we get better, not not
continue to have this country club retirement home for for
what all that has been from Europe, Eric would all
the joining us here on Fox Sports Radio quickly from
Paris to to up Brussels three hours, sixteen minutes. Yeah, yeah,
So there you go. Dan, the way you drive, you'd
(21:56):
be there in two hours and foot and just zooming
in and out of the four oh five. You can't
catch me unless you catch my personalized place. That's a
bye bye, That's that's what I drive. Hey, in eight
in eight years, we know it's coming. It's coming to
the US in the joint bid of Mexico and Canada,
but also the expanded field. Seeing what you saw this year,
(22:20):
is this a bad sign of things to come when
this field expands to well, I mean that's a great
that's a great topic. But I think what this also
is telling us is that there are certain pockets of
the world who are getting their act together and making
it more competitive. No one would have thought that we'd
be in the scenario maybe eight years ago, that Belgium
(22:42):
would would be in the spot but there and it
would have been the likes of a Portugal or or
in Italy or the Netherlands. And there's always certain places
that seem to always be challengers in a World Cup.
But I think I know looking at it now and
going across the Croatious in their Russia had a pretty
good run. Sweden is some of the something to talk
about your way, I think in the in the you know,
(23:05):
in the in the the first couple of games, we
saw some bad performances out of our region, with Costa
Rica not doing well. Egypt was was disappointing. Saudi Arabia
and Panama were all easy games for everybody. But then
again guys, Korea beat Germany, so it's it opens it up.
Was given the eight years. But you know, when when
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certain countries start to get their act together, it's gonna
make it better in the end. It's gonna make it better.
Easier to get in, of course, but I think once
the competition starts we'll get We'll get just as much.
It's not more enjoyment out of the next one. The
next couple of its top if it all goes well,
the last one for me. For Eric win Alda played
in three World Cups for the US National Soccer Hall
(23:48):
of Famer. Here on Fox Sports Radio, neymar diving Americans
who are just now seeing it for the first time
in four years, who have never seen him play before.
They're outraged by the diving, the theatrics. What is What
is your opinion on that? How would you react to
that if you were playing against him. I'll give you
a real quick story, right right. I once did that,
(24:08):
and I went down on the ground, pretending like I
was dying and held my face. I got a phone
call from my dad, who he never does that, and
he says her, why don't you come by the house?
So I dropped by. My mom, grabbed your purse, walked
right past me and said, good luck, go sit down.
I got something for you. He rolled the game and
he showed me over and over again, pretending that I
(24:28):
was hurt, and they looked at me and he says,
I'm telling you right now, that's my name on the
back of your shirt. If you ever do that again,
you are not welcome in this home. That is just
not anything that I want to be related to. Are
we clear? I never dove again. This is the biggest
problem we have in the game. It is is a
massive problem. They need to be fine. We have the
(24:50):
ability to to review stuff on V A R and
on video and say look how bad this was this
this simulation. I'm them. They're rich people. You hit their
wall hard and they'll stop doing it. Stop doing absolutely amazing.
He's Eric when all played in three World Cups for
remember the US men's national team and our friend here
on Fox Sports Radio. Eric and I had a Twitter
(25:11):
battle once on followers. Yeah, years back. It was a
race to six thousand. Um, I want, what are you
at now? I'm yeah, you know, I'm not even in
five digits yet. So we're yeah, we're all at hundred.
You know, hundred, that's all. That's all we've got. You.
You flew past me with white speed. Yes, it's Westlake, man.
That's how they work out there. They're more popular than
(25:32):
t o. It's just a yeah, it's fistocious. You go
back to that. I plan on running to run US soccer,
so just so you know, so hopefully that'll you know,
turn things around for me a little bit as well. Well.
That gives us a reason to play golf. I think
that we'll get out alright, let's do it. Thanks Eric,
appreciate it, and yeah, enjoy the rest of the World Cup.
(25:54):
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One thing that can't be mistaken is Carmelo Anthony's future
in Oklahoma City, where there doesn't look like there's going
to be One reports saying that the Thunder and Carmelo
are set to work out some sort of parting of
(26:17):
the ways, whether it be a via a trade or
be a buyout of his contract where he's due twenty
seven million dollars for the upcoming season. Earlier on the show,
we spoke with Jordan Schultz, who is the co host
of the podcast with c J McCollum, The Pull Up Podcast,
and Jordan talked about what's next for Carmelo Anthony. Yeah,
I've been speaking to a sources to Carmelo all day
(26:40):
about potential spots because obviously it's not a surprise that
he gets fought out. I think everybody kind of expected that. Uh.
I think right now, the Lakers and Rockets both make
a lot of sense. Um, you know, I think the
fact that the Lakers have have a need for a
like a trail fallball power four that can make shots
be huge. And then I think you consider the fact
(27:03):
of the Rockets loose Trevor reasa Um and they need
a guy that can make shots from the perimeter, from
the the midpost, and Carmelo is not the type of
defender and nor is he that type of the threat
that he used to be. But I think both of
those teams make sense. I think a wild park potentially
could be Philadelphia, just because you can really see him
(27:24):
stilling a need for for the Sixers in terms of
what what they need shooting, you know, wing depths, and
he can play that three four and that's really where
they've kind of faltered. So I would look at those
three teams and I think probably the favorite right now
with the l A And that was Jordan's Schultz earlier
with us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
(27:44):
Sports Radio. He's Jona Sknocks. I'm Dan Buyer. I didn't
like Boogie Cousins the Golden State. I don't like Carmelo
Anthony to the Houston Rockets. I don't you don't you
don't replace Trevor Reasa just because Carmelo can kind of
shoot the ball, there's zero oh help defensively, I don't
think that that would be a good mix for the Lakers.
(28:05):
And I know I tweeted this, I shouldn't say tweeted this.
I searched this in Twitter I just typed in Mellow
Jonas earlier today. The first the result was Mellow to
the Lakers, then Mellow Warriors, and then just Mellow. People
are wondering, yeah, Melow to the Lakers, Mellow possibly to
the Warriors, but to the Lakers was the biggest one.
And I see a lot of backlash. Do it what
(28:26):
one year deal? Shooting and play with Lebron. Maybe Lebron
can keep him in check. It's really the only thing
that Carmelo can do is actually three point percentage was
one of his better years this past year in Oklahoma City.
I don't think. I don't really actually see how it
could hurt or destroy the Lakers if Carmelo Anthony came
up and can somebody double check in the back if
Melo Yellow was the car sponsor that Rowdy Burns had
(28:49):
in Days of Thunder, just amaze. Since we're on the
top of Mellow, it will never fit anywhere else on
sports radio. That's that's the only request we have. Where
would he Is there a place in the league that
you think he carries enough name value that at least
he could sell some tickets in because I don't know
that and he could he could right now, still gonna
get you again. Yeah, it may take him thirty eight shots.
(29:12):
But that, you know, that's with with some guys, like
if at least Lebron is in the town or on
his team where he would maybe put him in check.
We you know, last year when he made the joke
about coming off the bench, and we had kind of
talked about it before the show. I thought it was
a funny line, and he's you know, it's like they
want me to come off the bench with With Carmelo,
there was nobody really there in Oklahoma City that was
(29:33):
going to check him, if you will. With him being
friends with Lebron and and maybe in Carmelo's mind they're
on the same level, but he may have thought that
he was on a different level level than Russell Westbrook
and Paul George in Oklahoma City. Maybe just maybe that
would put him in some sort of place with the
Lakers where it wouldn't be. But yeah, I mean, it's
(29:53):
it's all he does is shoot. Really, I mean, that's
that's what you've got with Carmelo Anthony. So if if
you were to put him in Canna, I don't know.
I always used Memphis as an example. I don't think
it draws tickets. Um, I don't think he's that name anymore.
Is he kind of like Adrian Peterson to where you
know he can still probably play, but you just don't
(30:13):
know whether or not you want him around. It seems
like that's kind of what's happened with Adrian Peterson to
where I'll bet he could still play. You see some
videos of him training and working out. It seems like
he can still play, but for some reason nobody wants
him around. He reminds me of I don't I don't
want to say, because Mike Wallace actually had some somewhat
decent years where all Mike Wallace you thought was just
gonna catch an a yard touchdown the anchor or the
(30:35):
the wide receiver, where it was just all right, let's
just chuck it deep and hope that he that he
catches it. That's what I think of, Like Carmel, like,
you don't like you're you're not bringing in Mike Wallace
to block or to get that first down, to move
the chains. You're just like, all right, maybe he can
bring oh we know what John Ramos has been doing
(30:57):
that and uh so I I I just think there's
such limited upside and with his ego and with who
he is and he's you know, I mean there's there's
just limits with what you've got with Carmelo Anthony. Yeah,
I I just it's amazing a guy that can still
(31:17):
get you twenty three game and you're right it could
take a nine shots. But that he you couldn't sell
him to a fan base anywhere, like a team that
that's maybe starving for some star potential or or look
if he says, hey, I'll come off the bench, I
have no problem coming off the bench. Remember Joe Johnson
was pretty effective in Utah. Um, Joe Johnson had some
(31:38):
decent years. He could score when he was coming off
the bench or when he wasn't that lead primary role.
I just this is my mind that he didn't anything.
This is how bad it got from Mellow in Oklahoma
City and on a team with Russell Westbrook there, we
were like, man, Mellow shoots a lot of mrs like
you've got Russell Westbrook there who isn't necessarily known as
(31:59):
the most efficient shot taker at times. That's how bad
it got from Mellow in Okay. See a summer's here,
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the entire segment. That's what he's been doing. Um at
(32:42):
j S. Ramo zero six for that. Coming up next,
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