Changes to NBA Playoffs, End of 1 & Done? Plus CJ McCollum

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City of Angels. Do Do Do Dolu Do Do Do Do.

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We will continue to cover the World Cup. The Brits
are up one nil on Croatia. Croatia the country that
everyone I know who has ever been there, was like, dude,
that's the hidden gem of all hidden gems. I've literally
I've had friends play there, I've had friends coach there,
I've had a married to friends visit there, and everyone

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I know is like, it's one of the most beautiful
places on earth. The people are nice, the women are stunning,
the food is good, and you get some of that
kind of old Eastern European charm with some of these
kind of classic older city plus you got water and
beaches and lakes and rivers. It's amazing. It's like a
total hidden gym. That said, I think we all want

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England versus France. Any rivalry that you can think of
pales in comparison to England versus France, even Russia versus America. Like,
imagine the scenario had we actually just qualified right and
Russia got into a finals Russia United States would have
been a historic matchup with superpowers. But here's the thing.

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Soccer is bigger obviously in France and England, and it
is here. But France and England arrivals, you're like going
back to what like the beginning of civilization in those eras.
In those areas, it it puts Duke and Carolina, Auburn

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and Alabama and Michigan and Ohio State together to shame
Dave literally fought in wars against each each other. They're
separated by a body of water, like you can't make
it up. I have no idea if they like each other,
but the fact that one drives on one side of
the road and the other drives on the other side

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of the road, that's crazy. Different languages. You got English muffins,
which are fantastic, by the way, against French toast equally fantastic. Anyway,
we'll get to uh, well, we'll cover the World Cup
as it becomes necessary. Let's get Let's keep talking with

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some NBA, shall we. Apparently Luke Walton was in the
know has been talking texting back with Lebron James that
per Ramona Shelburne, Luke had a great quote about the
night he found out that Lebron was coming to the Lakers.
I'll share that with you. But yesterday Adam Silver spoke
to the media about a quote robust conversation at the

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Board of Governors meeting about improving the current competitive landscape
and that the NBA can create a better system. The
two things that were most discussed or that he was
willing to share was one changing the age limit of
the NBA and two potentially changing the playoff format of

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the NBA. Let's start with the age limit, to which
I don't think he understood the information that was given
to him. So there's Commission on College Athletics chaired by
Condoleeza Rice, who oh yeah, by the way, doesn't really
have anything to do with college athletics. Condoleeza Rice is amazing,

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She's incredibly accomplished. She apparently loves football, that's how she
got on the college football playoff committee. But she doesn't currently,
I believe, work at a university, nor has she recruited
in college. But like the problem with that committee is
like there's nobody who's really kind of present day invested
that much in college basketball, and yet their findings are

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why the n c A is gonna make a change,
and the NBA is likely to make a change, and
the first part is changing the age limit. But what's
interesting about what h Adam Silver said was my personal view,
as we are ready to make a change, it won't
come immediately. But when I weighed the pros and cons

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and given the Condoleeze Rice and a commission is recommended
to the NBA that those one and done players now
come directly in the league. In essence, the college community
is saying we don't want those players anymore. It sort
of tips the scale in my mind that we should
taken a serious look at lowering the age to eighteen.
You're listening to the information all wrong. They don't want them, okay,

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because they don't want the whole attitude persona of only
here for five minutes and then I'm gone, What's what
is in the best interest of the league is most important.
Instead of reacting to emotions, reacting to facts. Go back

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to when we had no age limit. Do you guys
remember that? Why did it change? Because NBA teams we're
tired of trying to evaluate players in high school. NBA
coaches couldn't win with the young players that they drafted.
NBA g ms were reaching and stretching to find the
next stars, but there was way more swings and mrs

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than there were hits and oh yeah, by the by
the way, even when there were I believe in two
thousand five was the last year you had like thirteen
players drafted straight out of high school. Most of those missed.
They didn't develop as human beings. What's a what's a

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healthier What is a healthier system? The NFL system or
the NBA system. Steve Kerr wrote an article, go back
and read it. I tweeted out a relige today. He
was a GM in the NBA. He's now a coach
in the NBA. At the time, he was covering college basketball.
He's like, look, dude, you don't want this. You don't
want eighteen year olds. You want them to have to
stay in school for two or three years plus. It

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builds It builds their brands, It builds their brands for
the teams they're going to join. It develops them as
people and as players. Adam Silver is reacting to Twitter.
He's reacting to motions. He's reacting to people who aren't
involved in the sport. And if you and I warned
college athletics, like, if you want, if you want the
baseball system, you know what you're going to get out

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of college basketball college baseball. How relevant is college baseball?
It's not. And then you look at the idea we
we we want what do you say? Let me be clear,
under the current system, we want teams to compete like crazy.
So I think the Warriors, within the framework of this deal,

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should be doing everything they can to increase their dominance.
But but Adams over says, we can create a better system.
We're not trying to create some sort of forced parody.
We want to realize. We want to really be focused

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on parity of opportunity. There's so many kind of conflicting
alliances in where the NBA should go. But again, you
have to start with what's in the best interest of
the entire league. While motion would tell you, hey, go
to one to sixteen, the fact is that if you

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have an l A versus Golden State Finals, you're not
going to have the viewership that you would have versus
a Boston versus Golden State Finals. That's just the reality
of it. Don't believe me. I give you Yankees Mets
World Series terrible ratings nationwide. Not only are sixty six

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percent of the TV viewers in the Eastern Seaboard, but
the fact is that once you become a regional sport.
Look at college football's numbers and how they've struggled in
the college Football playoff era. When you get when you
get regionalized, when you take Ohio State out of it,
when you take us, you don't put USC in it,
your numbers are gonna suffer. And the NBA is reacting

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on emotion and they're kind of a step behind. And
if you chase down the West and say, hey, the
West is better than the East by the time you
flip it, and you make it one to sixteen in
a couple of years, because it does take that much
time to work out the scheduling changes, the playoff changes,
how to make it fair and equitable for people. But
I'm talking regular season schedule, not just postseason schedule. The

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East is likely to be as good or better. Remember
Janice's in Milwaukee. Uh, Philadelphia appears to be good. They're
gonna be good. Boston's gonna be very good for a
long time. And we'll see if the Wizards and a
couple other teams can figure it out. Hell, Toronto had
the best record. Now Lebron's out, maybe they can get
over the hump. But it feels like Adam Silver is

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reacting on emotion, taking the advice of others. And while
people didn't like David Stern because David Stern could be abrasive,
could be abrupt. Frankly, he could be an a hole.
He just could. He could be a serious ahole. This
dude's so not he's just too nice and he's gonna

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get pushed around and manipulated and mauld in this thing.
He wants to be liked. He wants people to really
like him. That's cool, But you know what people don't
like Roger Goodell. How's the NFL doing. Oh, the NFL
is doing terrible. No, it's not, no, no, it's not.

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The NFL didn't have Thursday Night Football five years ago.
Then they had a couple of games they put on CBS.
They have put games on their own NFL network. Then
they're like, hey, CBS, NBC, you guys split it up.
They didn't even rate that well. And Fox came in
and said, yeah, we're gonna blow that off or out
out of the water. You know why, because you've got
to have the NFL. It ain't about being liked. It's

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not about making people happy, but product well, what's in
the best interest of the league. And while you're really
close in the town might be in an all time high,
half the teams are trying to be bad. And by
trying to play catch up and fix the thing and
make it one through sixteen, you're gonna cut up all

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of the different history of the sport Lakers, Celtics, NBA file,
all the East versus West. You're gonna lose the Eastern
Seaboard in an effort to be liked. The league will
lose popularity, will lose momentum. M it's not NBA two K.
It's real life, right, you know, just not not the

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way it works. I mean. The comical part about the
whole even eighteen year old age limit is there is
no age limit for guys to go to the G League.
They can come straight at high school, go to G
League for a year and be drafted. Let that now
that more know that, even though that's been available to
them for a decade. Let let some of them explore that.

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See how that goes. Go ahead, try it for a year.
They've been able to come straight at high school for
a long time, they just can't get drafted. And even
now they can go to IMG Academy if they want,
they can do the prep school thing. In your effort
to protect two or three kids who might be forced
to go to college for a year, talk to the

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actual people boots on the ground. They'll tell you none
them are really ready. And the reason that the college
system doesn't really want them around is just kind of
the whole attitude of I don't need to be here.
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People confuse initials and nicknames all the time. It's not
the same thing. Initials are not nicknames. Joe Varden knows
that he covers the calves for Cleveland dot com. It's
got some great insight on Lebron, James. He joins us
now in the Doug Gotlic Show. Uh, there's a three
hour podcast out there that here's how good it is show.

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I was having dinner last night in southern in in
Los Angeles with a friend who lives in near the
area where Lebron lives, and he's like, have you downloaded
the podcast with Varden those guys. I was like, I've
heard some of it. We have it at works like
No, No No, three hours. It's all really really good for
people who want to get ahold of it. How do
they do so? Wow? Um, well, there's actually two of them, uh,

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that my colleagues and I had had done. One was
with Howard beck Um the full which was in between
games one and two of the finals, and that there's
a lot more about just what it was like for
four years to kind of live together and live through
the Lebron phenomenon um. And we had a lot of

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fun with that. We also drank three bottles of wine
while we were doing it, which was fun. And then, um,
the new one is u add it actually actually through
a local radio station N point three FM in Cleveland.
There there iPods or their podcast channel, and that is
where we kind of um peel the a couple of

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layers back into what happened in Cleveland and what happened
with Lebron and Lebron and Kyrie and and David Bladd
and ty Lou and Dan Gilbert and just kind of
on down the line. But it's still you kind of
get that same player of um sort of the I
don't know it, just the camaraderie that we had built,

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uh through four years together covering this team. We were
the three guys that stayed on the beat the whole
time and traveled the country with Lebron and those guys
and and you know obviously really got to know him
and know each other in a really good way. Um.
Some of some of what I've heard, I can't tell you.
I've consumed all of it, but some of what I've

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heard paints the picture of Lebron um as a as
a little bit one very very smart, of cunning in fact,
but at times can be petulant, spoiled, can throw fits
all sometimes though he does things for a purpose, like
how would you how would you characterize to the person

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who hasn't seen the real Lebron? How would you characterize
Lebron James as a teammate throughout those four years? Yeah,
I mean it's a really it's Uh, it's a complex
picture when it comes to Lebron um as a as
a a superstar athlete to work with. From my perspective,

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I could not possibly have been treated better. Um. You know,
I I've worked and I've covered politics, I've covered sports,
um and and Lebron was my certainly my favorite UM
subject to cover and to work with in my entire career.
There's no doubt about that. As a teammate, he was

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probably his at his best as a teammate when he
had older players on the team that that he respected
in a certain kind of way. Um. He he needed
to rely on those guys to create the right loose,

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comfortable atmosphere in the locker room and away from the court. Um.
You know, guys like Channing fry And and Richard Jefferson
and James Jones, Um, they could bring some levity to
the situation, and they could kind of invite everybody from
the team from all corners of the locker rooms out,

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you know, to dinner and and to to two people's houses.
And you know, they they they would invite themselves to
Kevin Love's house and have the whole team come over.
Lebron included and you know, after a while they start
going to the Indians games, and when the Indians went
to the World Series, reason and those kinds of things,
that's when Lebron was at his best. UM as a teammate.

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He was very hard on Kyrie, uh and at times
Kyrie totally deserved it. There's no there's no question about that.
That's another longer discussion. Um, this year is a teammate Lebron.
It's it's it's hard because I think it's a teammate.
He really struggled this year. Um, he struggled throughout the year.

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He was uncomfortable, which this is gonna sound so crazy,
but he he he had kind of lost his way
as the um kind of alpha leader of the team
when Dwayne Wade came on and and Isaiah Thomas and
Jay Crowder and Derrick Rose, like these are guys that

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are established veterans that can't really be talked to in
a certain way. And Lebron of course clearly the best
player and it was clearly his team, but he had
kind of gotten away from just kind of really like
enforcing his will as to how this was gonna go.
And then when all those guys got traded like literally

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all of them. Um he he he tried to reassume
that role. But these guys that he that they brought in,
three of them were young twenty five years old and
in one was was George Hill, who he had known
from playing against the playoffs. But he just didn't um,
he didn't really know the other guys in in a way,
and and it it had just become too much of

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a task to try to bring all this together in
the two months they had before the playoffs started. So
what Lebron end up doing, um, by and large, was
taking it upon himself and the Calves set up their
team so that regardless of who was on the floor, whatever, what,
what the other talent was, everything, literally every last little

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thing was going to go us through Lebron. And Lebron
was incredible. He was sensational and and and carried this
team back to the finals when no one thought they
could make it. And um, but but the Lebron the
teammate had long Vin Von by the time that had
rolled around Joe Barton from Cleveland dot Com joining us

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Doug Gotli show, Fox Sports Radio. Why was he so
hard on Kyrie? Well, um, I mean he's Lebron put
words to it himself way at the beginning, early in
that first season together, when he talked about bad habits
and in the truth of the matter is that Kyrie
had shown to be an incredible talent, brilliant offensive player, killer,

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all those things, but tellaying on a bad Calves team,
you know, I mean pretty much maybe with the exception
of the Stepian years, um, the worst Calves team in
in franchise history, that was Kyrie's team, And so he
had developed a ton of bad habits, things that you
just don't do to play winning basketball. And Lebron knew

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that he needed to kind of to to cleanse Kyrie
of that, but he also kind of overstepped in a
way that there wasn't enough respect I think paid to
just how good of a player Kyrie was. And this
this lasted a long time. I mean, this lasted well
into the year. Uh not quite but almost up to

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the to where to where Kyrie, you know, knocked down
that the game winner in Game seven. I mean, Lebron
would publicly um praise him, praise Kyrie and talk about
how he's a he's a future m v P and
all those things, but he also like almost akin to
like mild hazing, Like he would just kind of haze

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him and and just kind of speak about him and
to him in a certain way. Um that that roughs
Kyrie the wrong way. And then also Kyrie and this
is just totally I mean war to view. Kyrie resented
how much power and swaye Lebron had in the organization,
like basically totally disregarding that you were talking about arguably

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the greatest player we've ever had, certainly the greatest player
in Cleveland. Um, you know, four time m v P,
two time champion before that. Uh. And and he just
he didn't like it. He didn't like that reporters ran
the Lebron when something happened politically that that required some comment. Um,
he didn't like how much he didn't like the Lebron's

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friends were hired for jobs in the organization and and
on down the line. So this is something that that
festered over their time together. And in the meantime, they
produced the single greatest comeback in NBA Finals history and
gave a town something that that no one born after
four had ever seen period. Joe Barton joined us from

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Cleveland dot com. Um, the a lot has been made
of of Dan Gilbert, of the fact that they that
Lebron could never get over the letter, that Dan Gilbert,
you know, wanted to make decisions, wanted his team back.
What's the reality to who Dan Gilbert was in this
entire story. Well, that's a great question. And um, you know,

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I try every chance I get to to to kind
of set this this straight. Like the whatever animosity or
whatever ill will that there is or was between Dan
and Lebron in these in this second four years together,
I call it overblown, um because it's portrayed as though

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there was a falling out like, oh, you know, Lebron
is just so furious with Dan or so fed up
with Dan, or whatever the case may be, and that
that just wasn't true. They um, they agreed to kind
of move past what had happened in the past, but
they didn't say they didn't shake hands and say okay,
let's be friends like that. They didn't have a personal

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relationship when Lebron came back. Lebron did not come back
because of Dans um and and and I think said
Lebron was actually telling truth when uh he said that
Rachel at the start of the finals, Like I have
a great working relationship with Dan. I mean they didn't
have any personal relationship ever. Um. But you know, Dan

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for the most part, UH spent a ton of money
and did what he said he would do, which is
fun the team that was capable of of of winning. UM,
and Lebron did what he said he would do, which
was come here and and and get that team to
the finals and and win. So UM, if if Dan

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and Lebron like had had reached some kind of like
new level of trust and friendship, maybe Lebron would have
remained in Cleveland. Maybe. But I just think this is
a lot has a lot more to do about what
Lebron wanted for himself and his family and kind of
how he wanted to write his last chapter. And part

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of that, Doug, is he he wanted to play for
the Lakers, like he has always thought it would be
really cool to play under that under that Moniker and
and now he he's got the chance to do it.
Will it work? And And here's why I ask, because
I agree with you. You You know, he had like Channing Fry,
he had some of these these great teammates who, um,

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they respected him, but didn't take everything too seriously. And
and kind of understood. But and even though I think
he respects Rondo and probably likes the grittiness and toughness
of Lance, and you know, these guys that that need
to play well, that need to fit in. Even JaVale
McGhee has seen JaVale McGee might be the only guy
who can have a good time and be a veteran.

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Then you have all these other young guys who he
might like their talent, but the man, they're really young,
and they might revere him, but that doesn't mean, uh,
they can be their best selves playing with him based
upon what they currently have, how they're currently structuring it.
Do you think it will work well? Do I think
they're going to beat the Warriors this year? Uh? No, no,

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almost no matter what I mean. Now, the Warriors would
need two devastating injuries to kind of bring them back
to the pack instead of just the requisite one, uh
with five all stars over there. But I think this
is a bigger and I think this is a bigger
discussion to um. We were talking out here. I'm at
the Summer League, and we were talking with some of

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the Lakers writers and I won't name names because they
got to work with that team now. But they were
questioned like, uh, you know, are the are the Lakers
right now? Are they even better? They better than the Rockets?
Are they better than the Pelican? They just kind of
name like three or four teams other than the Warriors,
And uh, and Jason and Floyd and I, you know,
the two of the guys that have watched Lebron do

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this for the last four years, just just laughing at us,
like you cannot bet against Ron unless it's the Warriors,
who have an unprecedented level of talent. You can't bet
against him at any point because he's that good. So yes,
I think it can work, however, uh, and I'll try
to get to the points because I can't. We need

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to remember that in January this year, the Calves were
trending in a way that they would not have made
the playoffs. They were six and thirteen at one point,
and they had all these names and it just wasn't working.
And Lebron was in the locker room and they could
not win. Um, And so I am fascinated. You know this,
like Lebron may have to change change a little bit

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kind of how he approaches things away from the floor,
just to make some of these guys feel a little
bit better about things and try to kind of build
that build up. You know that the team and the
camaraderie component of this that it that it takes to
be successful. So I think, I think I think it
will work. But I do absolutely recognize account it's gonna

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it's going to be amazing. What about what about the Calves? UM?
I like their point guard, and I do think Kevin Love,
it's gonna be interesting what they do with Kevin Love.
What do you think the process they go through is
do they tank? Is that is that the plan? How
do they plan to rebuild this thing? Well? So, I mean,

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you know, we've taken like a tire iron to them
over this. Uh, just just searching for every nook and cranny,
every pressure point. Are you going to tank? Just because
that's kind of you know that that's the common knowledge.
That is the right word. But that's like the opinion
out there, like you lost Lebron, you having their chance,
you have to tank. UM. And they insist, including like

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the guys behind the scenes, they insist that that is
not immediately the plan. UM. They feel like their talent
is underrated UM, and they feel like the guys that
they brought in, as it turned out, weren't great fits
the play under the kind of pressure that it takes
the play with Lebron who's trying to go to a

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fourth finals and and expect so much without time to
gel and they just think that those guys on their own, um,
aren't going that that that there's that there's potential there.
They also think, and maybe this is part of it,
is market wise that you don't just trade Kevin, just
trade him. Um, you need to get like you need

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to get the right pieces for him. And the market
might not be there for him now. So they're they're
really there. There is a very viable case to be
made to bring this team back, bring Kevin back, um,
and and see how it goes. You know, Uh, the
East is gonna be weak. Um, there's two playoff spots
that you know, you think that might be there. And

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you know, the rest of the league doesn't think that
Calves are gonna, you know, be a candidate for him,
but right now the Calves kind of do. And and
there's no harm in trying it. And if and if
things go awry, then you trade Kevin at the deadline
and and you know, you look for picks and those
kinds of things, and you start to start to rebuild.

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Then but if if it works, Doug, um, what a
story for Dan and what a story for Kevin. And
the thing they've been saying is, you know, these rebuilds
are not guaranteed to work. Like, yeah, the Sixers are
a heck of a story after just five awful, terrible,
horrendous years. And oh, by the way, if they don't

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trade for Kawhi Leonard, they're probably not getting into the
finals anyway. I mean, like, that's how hard it is.
And and you know, and like, look, they're they're betting
on beat to stay healthy. They're betting on Ben Simmons
the developer jump shot so and and look that's the best.
At the Milwaukee Bucks, they tanked and they got a
great player out of it, but they were, you know,
they still were out of the first round of the the playoffs.

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I mean, still, it doesn't it doesn't, It doesn't always work.
It's a it's a great point. Download those podcasts. It's
incredible conversation. Enjoy the summer league, and uh, we'll talk soon, Joe.
Great stuff, man, Okay, thanks for having me, Doug. Joe
Varden Cleveland dot Com joining us Incredible Insight, Incredible Info
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Wimbledon in five sets, thirteen eleven in the fifth against
number eight c Kevin Anderson, who will now play an
American seated in the top ten, John Isner has won
his quarter Anderson. Kevin Anderson with the South African accent,
though a little different than the film. Novak Djokovic seeded twelfth,
advanced to the semi's back after Djokovic where he would

(32:16):
could could I say, face Raphael the doll, who's up
for three in the fifth set? For those who are
paying attention to this five set Wimbledon quarters, what is
going on with England's defense? What are they doing? What
are you doing? Where have they been the last fifteen minutes?
It's one one through eighty two minutes, I know, but
it's like, all of a sudden, Croatia is just like, okay, now,

(32:36):
now we're gonna go. It feels a little bit like
Drago before he killed Apollo Creed right, like all of
a sudden, he was taking a punch, taking a punch,
taking a punch. There's like boom, oh my goodness, another
shot and say still one one. But England can't get
to the end of the ninety minutes soon enough for
a break in this game. Major League Baseball's All Star
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Mariners short stuff Jean Sigur in the American League and
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The All Star Game will be Tuesday on Fox TeV
from d C. Washington's Nationals got shot out at Pittsburgh
today to nothing. Bryce Harper went over two with two walks.
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Bay Rays four to their final over Detroit. And there
are a couple other matinees starting up in a few minutes.
It's the Giants hosting the Cubs and Chris Bryant is
back from his shoulder injury for the Cubs. Bottom of
the six that Minnesota twins eight four over the Royals.
Back to you, this is amazing to loss like Croatia
is just they're getting shot after shot after shot after shot.

(33:40):
What what is I need somebody from somebody who knows
something about soccer to tell me exactly how this happened.
What are you suggesting that Rama's do you have a
residents soccer Well, no, I think Steve does. Steves to
me as our resident, I know, but but Steve's trying
to give me an update at the same time. But
like all of a sudden creations like okay, now we're
gonna try and score, and they're nearly pull it off.
They're getting shot after shot. There's got another one that's

(34:03):
that's sailed over the net defensive holes. Where where is
the England defense? It's not just yes, Croatia is attacking,
it's just suddenly England's defense wilting. Maggie Johnson was late
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Fox Sports Radio, Man, England is hanging on by the

(34:49):
I mean uh, and now we're in extra time, right,
we are an extra time and they're gonna the Brits
are gonna have a free kick. I believe so from
just outside, just outside the box. Let's take it to Steve.
We are through nine one minutes, so this technically would
be added time. This is why they should just call
the extra period over time. Like all of the rest

(35:10):
of us in this country do because added time, it's
not a field, it's a pitch. No time, those are
not regarding somebody. You're marking somebody. We don't have to British.
It's on a pitch, don't pitch. Don't you like with
the accent just saying the name Delhi Alley for England,
It's like it's like the Dilley Dilley people just say
it often just walking down the hallways. Um, all right,

(35:33):
set this up for you, Steve. You were to uh
to describe the set piece for the Brits, which I
believe is gonna be a goal English. I think the
Scottish would say we're Brits and we hate the English team.
Just for the record, really, yes, they have their own team,
okays the English? Yes, okay, my bad, no idea. Sorry,
didn't want to didn't want you offend your next vacation.

(35:54):
I don't really care. I mean, it's not not going
to be wide left with the free kick. We are
still it was a header, but it yet does you
know the goal that Croatia got It was gonna be
headed out by England's defense and Croatia got a boot
right in front of the defender's face and put it
in and then as you mentioned, had after they had
numerous chances to win this win this game. Uh, the

(36:17):
English defense has been much much like World War Two.
It is just they have taking they have taken an
absolute bombing and they're still surviving. There is there is
president for them surviving and overcoming. You know you mentioned
earlier the history with England and France. If it gets
to be that as a final Sunday morning, I looked
it up. There's been over fifteen wars just from twelve

(36:40):
hundred to eighteen hundred with England at France on the
opposite side. That that's a rivalry. It's like I tell
people all the time, Kansas and Missouri. They don't play
each other anymore because Missouri left the Big twelve. But
that rivalry goes back to the Civil War when Kansas
was a free state and Missouri was a border state
in other words, slave state. But they were border state

(37:01):
and undercover of darkness, some Missourian's burned down Lawrence under
cover darkness. They burned it to the ground, right, So
you go back to the Civil War in our country, Like,
that's a rivalry, slave state, border state. But even that
pales in comparison. We also have a final at Wimbledon.
Final at Wimbledon, uh Rafa Nadal will in fact advance

(37:24):
to the semifinals, like correct, going against Snovak Djokovic in
the semis man See now, look, nobody complains in tennis
when this happens. We're like so spoiled as America's like, oh,
we gotta have the East and the West combined. In
the NBA, you had Djokovic, you got Nidal. They're facing
the semifinals. That's the de facto finals right well, Federers

(37:45):
out on the other side of the bracket. So yeah,
the other semi is Kevin Anderson and John Isner. I
want to go to that. I want to Actually, I've
never wanted to go to a tennis match as much
as I want to go to Novak Djokovic versus Rafa
Nadala Wimbledon. And you know at Wimbledon right now people
can then now watch the overtime. They're going to ot
with England tide. No, this is is this o t or?

(38:05):
Is this extra time? It is extra time? Thirty minutes
of extra time. Do we have time to get to
Steve to Sega with the game. I don't think we do.
Can I just mention for the record then, for those
who don't know, the World Cup has been around since
nineteen thirty. How many times has England been to the
World Cup Final? One? That's it. There's this great history

(38:26):
of the sport in the country. England's been to the
World Cup final literally only one time ever and that
was when they hosted the tournament in nineteen sixty six
and they won the final in overtime. Yeah. Um, you
know they're they're they're massively there. There's there's like, now
you know what they're like. They're like, uh, I don't
think they're nicks. They're kind of like Texas A and M. Right,

(38:48):
everybody talks about it, talks about great like you go
back and look like, man, they've been bad for a
long time. Yeah, and they still are rolling in the
dough in the athletic department. It's not like they're unsuccessful. Yeah. Yeah,
they're Texas A and M as people who as people
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together for you best pro shops and Cabela's together. It's
pretty awesome. That's a rivalry. That's a rivalry. I want
to get to this terry. I want to get to
this as coke and PEPSI I want to get to
Terry Francona and what he did last night it was
almost comical. I still don't understand why. Uh. I'm I'm

(39:29):
into Nidal versus Djokovic. And we'll find out what happens
at the final here at at the World Cup. If
the English can match up with the French, but they
gotta score one more goal or we'll go to uh,
we'll go to penalty kicks, to peak Hayes as they call.
You know. Yesterday we sent our intern down what's her intern?
Name is? Steve, Jim Bill, Eric, Chris Chris. We send

(39:55):
our intern Chris uh to a Blaze Pizza because everyone
in southern CA, California was getting free pizza care of Lebron.
As a matter of fact, my son is at summer
camp in the East Coast. I was on the phone, like, dude,
you hear what Lebron did? Like I heard he's with
the Lakers, Like no, and he loves Blaze Pizza like
he's he got everybody in southern California free Blaze Pizza.

(40:17):
And he's like, and I'm all the way in Maine.
That's no fair. Send me a Blaze Pizza anyway. Uh,
something interesting happened or maybe didn't happen last night with
Lebron James at Blaze Pizza. And it has nothing to
do with the fact that we didn't get our pizza.
Here at Fox Sports Radio, it's next to the Doug

(40:38):
Gotlip Show. What off Tug Gottlieb Show? Fox Sports Radio?
We yet sports on TV during the day. This is
how life should be lived, right, life should be lived.
Consider me the relayer of all that's going on in
the world of sports. I got baseball on TV. That's fun.

(41:01):
I got soccer on TV that really matters. That's fun.
Although a Croatian player looks like he just pulled a
groin muscle. Who um? The the English were in survival
mode to end the second, second half or second period?
What do they call it in soccer half? Call everything

(41:22):
something something different? Why do we have why do we
feel the need it is a great question. Why do
we feel the need to call it their words like
we don't like I don't get an elevator and go like, oh,
I'm getting in the lift. Now I'm getting an elevator
because it's an elevator. That's what we call it, an elevator.
I don't know, it's weird. When do we adjust to
what we adjust to? Um? Anyway, the English seemed to

(41:43):
have been resuscitated and they're very much alive. Keep an
eye on Kansas City and Minnesota that actually I don't
dig day baseball, but Minnesota on the summer Wednesday kind
of feels like a good time. Yeah, it feels like
a beer good time. Peanuts, popcorn, Cubs and giants also

(42:05):
on my television screen. So anything that happens in the
world of sports, we will relay it to you. Yesterday
we covered the Blaze pizza phenomenon. Now I bring up Blaze.
They're not a sponsor the show. We wish they were.
We like any kind of pizza, especially free pizza. But
I actually like Blaze pizza. Um. I like it for

(42:27):
a myriad of reasons. One, I think it's fairly healthy.
I mean, like, look, it's pizza, right, you know, it's
bread kind of down on bread, but not that much
of it. There's a little bit of oil, but the
oil doesn't it's not a criscal variety. There's cheese that's
yummy um, and there's sauce, and the sauce is quite delicious.

(42:51):
My son gets cheese with extra sauce. That's all he
gets in his pizza. But one of my daughters gets pepperoni.
I like getting different stuff, but I will tell you
it's a tricky mix. Like you always think like, oh,
what would that be like like and I get a
little they actually ask do you you want little salt on it? Like, yeah,
salt is one of those things. Salt is like San Diego, right,

(43:14):
do you want to go to San Diego? Yes? Do
you want salt your food? Yes? There's just you don't
even have to take a breath and think to to
say no. But I'm a fan. I'm also a fan
of the fact that you don't wait that long. I
just don't have that much patience. It's kind of like
that whole And I know there's um. There's a there's
a term for it in um in the business for

(43:40):
that type where you order kind of you go down
the line. You know, it's like the old subway thing.
You're picking and pick out what you want. There's a
new place Cova. You remember that crazy feted cheese that
I told you to get that you share with me.
Sometimes they actually have Mediterranean restaurants. You've been to one
of those yet amazing. It's like the Chipotle of Mediterranean food.
It's great anyway, So that's kind of happ Yeah, I'm

(44:02):
into a Blaze Pizza. There's other places. Pie Not is
another another another chain that's similar. Huh. Piology is also
Piology Pizza Rev, which I've never been to. I mean
it's like again, pizzas like San Diego, like salt do
you want? Yes? Yes, I do. Who's going to turn

(44:23):
down a slice of pie? Apparently Lebron James too, so
he tweeted out. In fairness to Lebron, he didn't tweet
out specifically that he would be at the Culver City
Blaze Pizza, right, He did not specifically tweet that out.

(44:45):
On the other hand, he didn't say he wouldn't be there,
and he did tweet out that Culver City one. What
a save? How did that happen? From Croatia? Let's go
bringing Steve to Seger. There was a corner kick for
from the English and then a header and it was
a header by the header by an English player and

(45:06):
a Croatian player was in the goal, but not the
goalie standing next to the post, which is exactly what
Belgium did not do and allowed a goal. And he
headed out, he headed out, I couldn't tell if he
hit it out. With the famed women's game at the
Rose Bowl twenty years ago plus where they won the
World Cup, the US would have lost except they did
that exact thing. They had a defender standing next to

(45:28):
the goal post. So it's kind of like you have
two goalies, you sacrifice somebody moving on defense for the
moment to stop ahead her like that that's amazing. Uh,
that's I would say, that's good coaching or is that
good reacting? Like is that soccer? One oh one? Like
I you know, I'd love to say, I know, but
the last time I played soccer it was I would
stand at midfield, wait for the ball, economy and try
and school. As an outside observer, I thought it was

(45:49):
bad coaching by Belgium, not having what you just saw
what saved this defense right now, Yes, seems like England
has recovered. England was awful at the end of the
second half, and now they seem to be on the attack,
whereas the croats seem to have lost a little bit
of juice. Fair Uh yeah, think of the energy expended
by England on defense those last twenty minutes or so

(46:11):
of regulation. Maybe they really really got the break they needed,
I mean, the rest of it. Uh, it's it's a
it's a it's a fair point anyway, all right, we'll
keep you updated there. So Lebron no showed yesterday at
Blaze Pizza. Uh, let me ask our resident millennial Ryan Music.
I want your honest reaction the fact that Lebron tweeted

(46:31):
out Culver City Blaze Pizza Pizza party everybody, and then
Blaze is like, let's just do everybody get aint. No
party of Blaze, no pizza party like a Blaze pizza party.
There were no promises made, no promises made um about
Lebron showing up, but he didn't show up, and there

(46:52):
were some level of expectations that he would be there.
What's your reaction. I don't think I have an issue
you with Lebron not showing up and never had any
legitimate expectation that he was going to show up. It
was one tweet that became a self fulfilling prophecy that
people hoped he would show up at this one specific location,

(47:15):
as opposed to everyone taking a rational approach and going,
this is probably all just a part of a bigger scheme.
It's not as if he sent out some flyer and
was like, here's Lebron standing in front of a Blaze Pizza,
you know tomorrow, here's the time, here's the place, come
meet me. Do you agree with that? I do? And

(47:38):
it's a perfect point to what you talked about, which
is a telephone the game telephone where our friend says, hey,
Lebron is talking about some Blaze Pizza, and then it
gets to you it's like, man, Lebron is gonna be
at that Blaze Pizza down the street tomorrow. Like wow, okay,
I think that's what it became. People just word him
out like it looks like it's gonna be there. Guy,
let's go horrible, horrible. I actually think I kind of

(48:00):
I can disagree with you, guys. I do I do
disagree with you guys. Um Lebron James did, in fact
tweet out specifically so Blaze Pizza welcomed him. Inky Blaze
Pizza sent out the you know for every everybody, but
Lebron was the one who who said um who tweeted

(48:25):
out that he was, you know, haven't been to a
pizza party in a minute, with the what's the what's
the emoji where you're the thinking man emoji with the
hand over the chin Culver City question mark. Come on man,
that's teasing people like, go to Culver City. This was
after Blaze Pizza said are you ready for the King
of All Pizza parties were celebrating Lebron james arrival to

(48:47):
l A with three pizza seven attends not by any
of our l A locations, and he tweeted out Culver City. Look,
do I think this is like the end of a
friendship and a bromance? Like your fans are a lot
like you know what they're like. They're like people who
watch evangelists on TV. They do they they just they

(49:11):
they they want to be a part whoever the second,
the next next Jesus is they want It was first
it was Magic. Forget Magic, Now it's Kobe. Forget Kobe.
Now it's Lebron. We used to not like Lebron. Now
we like Lebron because he's on our team. Like, okay,
Lebron Pizza, just lead us, lead us to a championship,
leading show up beat one of us. And here's the thing.

(49:34):
I don't think this is anything damning towards Lebron in
the future. I'm not gonna but it's a great missed
opportunity because the one thing that Kobe has never been
able to be though he was loved. Look, if you've
ever been to Staples, Staples is there's stowage is basically

(49:55):
the upper level. Right, it's a weird arena in it's
set up. They're downstairs right when you get down on
the floor level. Those are high dollar, okay, but the
hardcore ultra Laker that that. But that's like you go
there date night, you go there to be seen. But
the Laker fans, real fans of real people are up

(50:15):
in the upper deck. That crowd loved Kobe Mamba mentality,
but he was never really one of them. Italy Philly
lives in you know, he lives in Newport, like he
didn't live in l a And not that Lebron is
really one of them. He's from Akron to Miami to Cleveland,

(50:37):
back to here. He does does live in l A
proper loves and lives in Brentwood, and this was a
chance to at least dip his hell in being a
man of the people. Hey, you know what I'm in
to Blaze Pizza in l A. Let's go to Culver
Cities right around the corner and just show up. And
I mean, like, look, if I was advising Lebron James,
I would have told him like, hey, dude, let's get

(50:58):
there and wait in line. Not get there and even
do the Lebron thing where you are security and cut
through and you shake hands. Just go there and wait
in line, be like, hey, man, what's up. I'm not
gonna sign argraphs. Just got pizza. Bring whoever's with you.
We all came to get free pizza. Yeah, I just
signed for her fifty three million dollars. But it's free pizza.
Who says no to free Blaze pizza. Nobody says no

(51:20):
to and you would have won the people. I just
I feel like it's a missed opportunity, that's all, you know.
It feels very kardashian e. It feels very fake, like
even the Kardashians will go to the restaurants in places
they'll show up at places they got their entourage or whenever.

(51:41):
I don't know. I felt like it's missed, missed, missed opportunity. Meanwhile,
Blaze pizzas packed and once you that stuffs like crack,
you know, once you get on and you're like godza
and then people listen to me like pizza that sounds
good pizza. Yes? Do you think honestly that there is
anyone now who thinks of Lebron James any differently because

(52:04):
he didn't show up. Uh, I get what you're saying,
Bye bye. It's a missed opportunity. And sure there's a
confirmation bias, right it If you think Lebron James came here,
came to l A to just win championships, be all
part of it, just go in all in on l A.
Whereas there's a group of people like, dude, he came

(52:26):
here because it's about business, it's about movies, it's about
next phase, it's it's about that was a business move, right,
it's a business move. Generate interest in Blaze Pizza, Blaze
Pizza Place, Pezza Place Pizza. You know, it's like all
word of mouth becomes all positive for a company that
he is a partial owner of. It's genius. But if

(52:49):
there was somebody who was trying, like I'd like to
be Swede, I'd like to believe that it's the it's
the old bachelor and bachelorette thing. Right. Are you in
it for the right reasons? Did he come here to
win another title, to win number eight team? Or do
you just come here to do the l a thing,
to be in movies, to be an actor? Because that's
when everybody comes here for right actor director, I'll get

(53:13):
a script you gotta see. That's what Lebron, That's what
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Fox Sports Radio. Croatia just had another chance to score,

(55:04):
another chance to score, and uh, I just kind of
missed it on a on a cool kie corner kick right,
So it's like a corner kick, but usually they kick
it up in the air trying to get aheader. Is
this set piece? It's like a set play. No, we
call it a set piece anyway. So they just kind
of made a past open space and one of the

(55:26):
Croatian players came in and swooped him with his left
foot to try and kick it in the goal when
he missed. But exciting game, exiding game I want. I.
I like the way Croatia plays, I like their athleticism.
Plus I just I dig the whole Croatia thing. But
I also want this whole Oh oh oh, let's bring

(55:52):
in Steve to Segre for a live World Cup update.
Croatia has scored it over time. It is to one
over England. It may not I'd be England in the
World Cup final against France. After all, Keep in mind
it is not sudden death over time. It is not
They tried that last decade and teams were so careful
we wound up with a lot of boring overtimes from

(56:12):
the most points, so they they play the fift team
switch sides. Another fifteen were in the second fifteen minutes
of overtime. The hudd eight minute and it's to one.
Croatia has taken the lead deservedly. Mm hmm. Remember that
Croatia you mentioned the last segment, the Croatian defender who
was standing on the goal line by the post and
blocked a shot. What do you know, England did not

(56:34):
take the lead. Croatia finally puts another one through. Ever
since before the seventieth minute, Croatia has been dominating England
and finally takes a two one advantage. Where about ten
minutes to go in this game? Uh yeah. This is
a Croatia team that had gone to penalty kicks their

(56:55):
last two games, one back to back, going to five
and oh in the tournament just to get this far.
It was looking like penalty kicks for a third straight time.
We may not be going to penalty kicks. Let's get
to a game. This is game time side on the
Doug Gottlieb show bummers here, which means it's time to
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(57:18):
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what's the game? Game John? Real news? Fake news? Okay,
I'll bring up an item in the world of sports.
You tell me fake news are real news? Number one?
Magic Johnson was forty five minutes late to his free

(57:39):
agency meeting with Lebron James because of l a traffic.
Real news or fake news? Fake news? You are fake news.
In fact, Magic says he arrived an hour early for
a scheduled meeting with Lebron jew and thirty waited in
his car outside james Southern California home until the moment arrived.
Do you believe he was really an hourly? Uh? Yeah,
I can see that. Sure. What's the early is you've

(58:00):
ever gotten? I don't I don't believe that it was
eight oh one, like he said before then, So you
don't believe that's that's that's the only thing. Yeah, I
got there like an hour early. Yeah, somewhere around there. Yeah,
you got there during the eight o'clock hour, Like, I
just I just don't like Magic lives right down the street. Like, man,
I was so excited. I was. It was eight oh one.
I was there. Come on, dude, I got there half

(58:23):
hour early. Cool. I believe that story. So you get
there an hour early? Right? Like? Do you go get
a couple of coffee? Right? I mean, look, you it's
you can kill time all the time. You know, you
just get pick up your phone texting people anyway. Also
in the NBA, Miami Heat general manager Andy Ellisburg called

(58:43):
Cavaliers general manager Kobe Altman the day after Lebron announced
his decision to join the Lakers and gave him advice
on coping with the King's departure. Real news or fake news? Like?
Who called Kobe Allman that the Heat GM called the
Calves GM. I feel that's fake news. They're real and
they're specter killing. Story from Ramona Shoulber and ESPN a
behind the scenes look that Altman got a call from

(59:05):
the Heat general manager the morning after james announcement. He said,
I called him and said, well, did the sun come
up this morning? He said, yes, it came up. But
I said well, I just want to let you know
it's gonna come up tomorrow too, he said. When James
left Miami, he was so angry and emotional as GM
he thought he was having a heart attack. Once the
initial shock wore off, he realized there was nothing he

(59:28):
could have done to change Lebron's mind, and he relayed
that message to the Cavs. G HM, nothing you could do,
nothing you can do. That's what they did. That's if
people tell anybody, hey, nothing you can do. And that
was actually a lot of things you could have done.
You know, could have gotten a plane, gone out and
just knocked on his door. You could have done the
John Cusack right with the is that two day to

(59:50):
reverence the boom box, right with the boom box stood outside,
stood outside his Redwood house with the boom box. That
would have been awesome. There's all nothing you could have
done like that? Is that? I don't know. That's loser talk.
Nothing you could have done. Lots of things you could
have done, and if you don't learn from it, you're
destined to repeat it. Winston Churchill. Story three. Isaiah Thomas,

(01:00:12):
currently an NBA free agent, said there's only one team
in the league. He would not play for his former team,
the Celtics. Real news or fake news, you are well.
NBC Sports reporter happened to run into Isaiah Thomas at
an airport yesterday, and so the reporter wrote on NBC
sports Boston Instagram account. Isaiah Thomas said he was in

(01:00:35):
a good place health wise after struggling last season with
the hippist injury, and Thomas responded to the post, tell Boston,
I'll come back for a year. L O L good
to see you. Miss my Boston fam. So actually sounds positive. No, listen,
I I I was in Boston with some of the
Celtics people and they they they cannot believe how he's

(01:00:56):
viewed in the league. Granted, you know, he's had hip
surgery now, so that's one of the Sas he's still available,
people trying to how healthy is he? Trying to establish
value for him is really really hard, um. But they
genuine genuinely, genuinely enjoyed their experience with him, genuinely thought
that was the best version of him. Now maybe that

(01:01:18):
created kind of a monster, but that's uh, that's the
reality of how it went down. As they thought he
was a good teammate, he was a great worker and
he was a good Celtics So there's no there's no
uh no ill will from the Celtics side to college basketball.
A group of former Louisville players. They're suing the n
c double A over the vacating of the National Championship.

(01:01:41):
Real news or fake news that feels like real news,
and they're spectacular. In fact, a lawsuit has been filed
describing the n c A as a morally bankrupt organization
that exploits student athletes. There was a press conference on
this today. Suit filed today in a county circuit court.
It does not specify any monetary damages. It states the
n c A cast the plaintiffs, these ex players at

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Louisville in a false light, and it seeks to declaration
that it's wrongfully vacated the plaintiffs wins and their honors
and their awards. Of course, the n c A strip
Louisville of the title as part of sanctions for violations
having hookers inside of inside of your dorm. Yeah, I like, look,

(01:02:23):
did the did the did the lawsuit have a chance
of reinstating the national title? Maybe? Until you're like, the
n c A is a morally what organization bankrupt bankrupt
organization that seems separate from the lawsuit. Really, what is
your what is your point actually aside from you know,
anybody can slander the n c a A. There's some
meat on the bone there, Arrah. Finally NFL Eli Eli

(01:02:47):
Manning not quite a rant, but spoke with reporters saying
he expects Odell Beckham to ease his way back onto
the field, hopes he can get back to at some
point this season. Real news or fake news, it feels
like real news in facts. O'Dell looked healthy, was the quote.
After seeing him at last month's workouts, he was running

(01:03:09):
routes full speed, Manning told the ESPN making cuts. Seemed
to be his old self. I'd always been working hard.
He's going to have a big year end quote. Well,
we'll see, because you know, look, they lost other wide
receivers and now they got they redid their line um
and they you know, they obviously drafted a talented running back.
Big year photo Beckham Jr. Because he wants a big contract.

(01:03:33):
Is game time on The Duck Gottlieb Show. There's a
lot of Steve to Seger in this segment. Don't worry
Trevor Stories just around the corner, first time All Star
out from the Colorado Rockies. He'll join us, We're told momentarily.
We'll get to that in a moment for first Here
Steve Seger with an update. Overtime goal for Croatia and

(01:03:53):
there five minutes left in this World Cup semifinal on
Fox TV. Our beloved editors have put this into our
assist him. This is how it sounded on Fox TV
when it was one one, roughly midway through the ot
Croatia with it the sand walker, the air trip, it
around to my parents us extra time goal officially scored

(01:04:22):
in the one hundred ninth minutes. They're currently in the
one hundred seventeenth minute, three to go, Croatia leading at
semifinal in overtime to one over England. France awaits the
winner in Sunday mornings final on Fox. The tournament does
have a third place game, by the way, that is
Saturday on Fox TV ten am Eastern time to Wimbledon.

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Novak Djokovic, seeded twelfth, advanced to the semifinals where he
will face Raphael Nadal, a winner in five sets, six
four in the fifth eliminating one, Martin del Potro. Number
one Roger Federer lost his quarterfinal at Wimbledon in five sets,
thirteen eleven in the fifth. That was a against eight
c Kevin Anderson, who will face American John Isner next.

(01:05:03):
The Major League Baseball Tampa Bay won its fifth straight game,
four two over Detroit. Pittsburgh shut out Washington two to nothing,
and two other mattinees. At Minnesota, it's eight five twins
over the Royals, top of the ninth inning and bottom
of the third. At San Francisco, the Giants and Johnny
Queto lead for one over the Cubs, and the vote
has ended. All Star Games. Final vote, Yeah, yeah, tell me,

(01:05:25):
tell me who's in. We'll find out in a half
an hour on The leaders were the final tabulations. You
know the leaders were in the last update. Mariners short
stuff Jean Sigur in the American League and Milwaukee first
baseman Jesus Aguilar in the National League. Not big names
is a vote for having great, great first halfs of seasons.

(01:05:45):
These two All Star Game on Fox TV Tuesday in
d C. All right, let's get to Trevor Story, who's
a first time All Star for the Colorado Rock. He's
only second year in the big Um, who who told you?
Who's the first person to tell you? Bud Black? Yeah
it was Bud Black. Um he called me into the
office on uh Sunday, the day that the teams were announced. Um. Yeah,

(01:06:07):
he told me before the game, like thirty minutes before
the game, and UM, yeah, it was very exciting. Okay,
So what did you do, like you walk out of
the office? Take big, take, take, because you can remember
this for the rest of you know, you canna make
other All Star teams. You can remember this once the
first one. What did you do after you walked out
of the office. Man, When I walked out, you know,

(01:06:27):
just I was. I was a little emotional. Um, you know,
and when Buddy told me, and you know I was emotional,
you know in his office when he grabbed me, and um,
you know, we we embraced. And I think that first
one is pretty special. Um. So you know I walked out,
and you know the first thing I did was call
and tell my fiance. Um. But you know, it was

(01:06:48):
a weird dynamic because it was thirty minutes before the
game and you know I was playing, so I was
I had to get those phone calls in real quick
called my fiance, called my my mom and dad and
let them know, and um, you obviously they were excited,
but you know it was quick excorry to get ready
for the game. Okay, So how how hard is that
to concentrate? Does it change? You know? And look and
and I don't know, are you I'm sure most guys

(01:07:10):
are routine guys, right, this kind of screws up your
routine is thirty minutes before on the phone my mom
and dad, it's super excity. How did you how did
you concentrate on Sunday? Yeah? Um, I'm very routine based.
Um so it did, you know, mess up my routine
a little bit. But you know that's all right. Um,
you know, if I'm getting that kind of news, and

(01:07:31):
I'm fine with it. But um, you know, after after that,
you know that the excitement and stuff is, you know,
it's there throughout, you know, the whole day. I think
and um, yeah, I think I just tried to use
it to uh, you know, to play well that day
and you know, just just trying to focus on the
tesk at hand. You know, something interesting happened with you.
Trevor Story joining us. He's the first time All Star

(01:07:51):
shortstop for the Colorado Rockies. Doug gotlip show here on
Fox Sport Trade. You can't get off to the hottest
start in the world, although for a young dude, you
you walked a lot, you took a lot pitches. You know,
your obp was still good. Just your batting average up until,
you know, really up until you got to June, you know,
was in the you know, two fifties or so. Um,
how did you handle a little bit of a sluggish

(01:08:13):
start in terms of uh, in terms of you know,
seeing the ball off the bat, you know, put putting
it in play and other than you know, like like
I said, you saw a lot of pitches, but you
didn't see a ton of success actually hitting the baseball early.
How did you handle that? Right? Um? You know, I think, uh,
you know, baseball is such a you know, a tough game,
and UM, I think you know, realizing that you know,

(01:08:34):
when you when you're having long at bats, you know,
like I wasn't not having success, you know that I wanted. Um,
you know, those those are small victories, you know, when
I'm taking tough pitches and um, you know, batting with
two strikes and putting the ball in play and you know,
helping the team win is you know, those those are
those are big victories. And um, you know you always
want to be successful, but you know that that's certainly

(01:08:55):
not I was gonna happen in this game. And UM,
you know you just really rely on my preparation and
you know, my my everyday work. Um. And you know slowly,
you slowly started coming out of it. You um obviously
grew up in Texas. Uh started playing travel ball at
age Um, let's see, I played. I started playing travel

(01:09:17):
ball probably ah, freshman year high school, so maybe maybe
maybe eighth grade so FOURT. So you weren't playing like fallball,
like literally, you were just playing like little league coming up? Yeah, yeah,
I was playing little league, you know with all my
my best friends from Irving. Um, you know we had
a you know, that core group of guys that we
that we always played with and UM yeah I played

(01:09:39):
with with them, you know all the way up until
that point. Were you always the best? Uh? Um? I
guess yeah, I guess, well, I mean did you always
play like the best player? Always play short pitches catches? Right?
Were you that? Were you that guy? Like like like
in my job, now there's nobody who like, I didn't

(01:10:00):
see you that. I didn't see that happening for you.
But if somebody played baseball with you eleven years old Irving, Texas,
Like wait, Trevor stories and I'll start get out of here.
He sucked when he was eleven. How good were you now?
I was? Yeah, I was good when I was young. Um, yeah,
I think I was. I was more of a picture
when I was younger. Honestly, Um, you know, because I

(01:10:21):
could throw hard. Um, so that was that was kind
of my my thing when I was younger, and um,
you know, I kind of ran into some some arm
problems and you know I didn't you know, I guess
treat morm the right way, so you know, and I
kind of started getting more athletic and then saw what
you know, I wanted to play play in the field
and you know, um play defense and you know I

(01:10:42):
loved hitting, so um. After that, you know, I kind
of made my way towards short stop. Okay. So then
you know, obviously winding around the minor leagues before you
got the call up to the bigs. Uh is always
fasting right? It was Asheville first. That was like that
was your first or did you went to did you
did you go to Casper first, to Casper, Wyoming first? Right, Yeah,

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I went to Casper, Wyoming first and then Ashville. Al Right,
so Casper to Asheville to Modesto, uh to uh what
to to Tulsa? Right, Um, you've been in New Britain.
You've you've been to Albuquerque, best stop on the minor
league's tour. What's the best one? Like, you know what

(01:11:23):
that place is kind of cool? Yeah, there's a couple, um,
the two that come to mind or um Asheville. You know,
I've really enjoyed my time in Ashville. Um, we had
a really good team and you know we we ended
up winning the league, so that always helps. But yeah,
I love you know, it's just the city. You know,
it was uh very beautiful, you know a lot of truths,

(01:11:45):
you know, just just great scenery. And and then Tulsa, Um,
you know that was that was double A my first
Double A experience, and um, you know it feels like hey,
when you get to double as, feel like you kind
of get you know, I tasted the big leagues. You know,
the parks are better, Um, you know, the pitching and
you know, the competition is obviously a lot better, and
it was close to home for me, so I could

(01:12:06):
have some of my my friends and family come up.
But those two are two of the ones that best
stuck out to me. Give me your best minor league story,
like the the go to, like all right, tell me
about the minors, like you won't believe this happened? Man, Um,
let me think for a second. Doug Gotlip Show Fox
Sports Radio, Trevor story is racking his brain. He's trying

(01:12:28):
to remember his best radio appropriate minor league story. The
non radio appropriate will be available on the podcast soon
to be dropped afterwards. In the meantime, we're hoping westalled
enough for Trevor's story to come up with that story.
By the way, I'll give you thirty more seconds here,
Croatia has one. They're advancing to the World Cup final
to match up with with France. Okay, there you go. Okay, Trevor,

(01:12:51):
time's up. Give me your best radio appropriate minor league story. Okay,
um yeah, radio appropriate. Um, you know that that cuts
out a lot of them, but I guess I would
say the most minor league thing. You know that that's
that happened. You know that can only happen in the
minor league, just like was. We were playing a game

(01:13:13):
in Nashville and um, they have they have a zip
line that comes from behind left field fence that comes
all the way to home play and that's how they
delivered the game ball. You know, they would have somebody
holding the ball and ride the zip line down to
home plate. And you know, it happened a few times then.

(01:13:34):
You know, my my buddy was like, hey, make sure
you watched the zip line this time. I was like, okay,
and uh, you know, I watched it and I see
this lady coming down and you know, she's flying down.
She ends up at home plate and it's my mom. Yeah,
my mom's zip line the ball from left field to
home plate during one of my games and threw me

(01:13:57):
off a little bit. So I had to brain her
a little that. I told her that's awful. Inmits, next
time you're headed to d C for the All Star Game,
Um do you do you grab a ball? Like? How
do you how are you any plans on how you're
gonna soak in the moment On the seventeenth on Fox. Yeah,
you know, I'm I'm really excited about it. I'm just

(01:14:19):
uh I'm looking forward to the atmosphere and you know,
talking with all the guys and because there's there's a
lot of great players that were gonna be there, and
you know, it's one of my childhood dreams to to
go to this game participate. So um yeah, you know,
like you said, I think during VP, I'm just gonna um,
you know, kind of sitting in the outfield in the
shag a little bit and uh, you know, take a
step back and you know, realize what's going on and

(01:14:41):
really appreciate the moment. All Right, you guys are in
this hyper competitive Dodgers have woken up, but the Dimebacks
still have a one and a half game lead. You
guys are hanging around giants, are hanging around giants. Trump
for one on the on the Cubs right now, how
do you how do you take that next step? How
do you get back above five? What? What? What? What
did the Cockeys need to do, especially as you get

(01:15:01):
in the second half of the season. Yeah, um, you know,
I think we've been playing well lately and uh you
know that that's a great sign. Um. Uh, you know,
it's it's it's always tough to uh you know, be
hitting and pitching at the same time. Um, you know
that that's always the tough part of it. Um. You know,
we feel like we've we've either been hitting and not

(01:15:22):
pitching or vice versa. And so I think we just
need to find that that good mix of you know,
having you know, good well pitched games and you know,
well executed offensive games too, and um, you know we
started to do that lately. So it's it's it's good signs. Well,
obviously this is a big series with the dimebacks. We'll
let you get back to your prep. We appreciate you
joining us. Thanks for that story, and congratulations on making

(01:15:45):
your first All Star game the first of many, we hope.
Thanks for joining us on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
thank you appreciate it. Trevors story. Remember when he got
when he was first Last year, when he first came
to the bigs, he blew up first kind of month
of the season. Uh, this year kind of a slow start. Now, look,
his numbers very much skewed, especially power numbers, hitting numbers
when he hits at home. But it's interesting, It's like

(01:16:08):
for a for a young guy, he sees a lot
of pitches, a lot of pitches and obviously that is
a prodigious lineup um with three all stars in it.
Nolan Arnato my personal favorite, and that left side of
that endfield is stellar. It's just they gotta they gotta
have better pitching. Alright, a little brexit from the World Cup.

(01:16:28):
Oh I did, I went there? I did, in fact
go there? Does Magic Johnson deserve any credit for the
Lakers landing Lebron James? Wait? Do you hear it's get
Bayliss has to say. Next, broadcasting live from the studios
of Fox Sports Radio, here's Doug Godlieb. Online shopping can

(01:16:49):
be confusing, Well not anymore. With True Price from True Car.
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car buying experience. Doug got Show, Fox Sports Radio. Croatia.
Croatia advances better team one right we okay? Saying that,

(01:17:10):
I write like that's the one thing with soccer, there's
a randomness sometimes two goals. Uh's a ramnius to pks Um.
I would say, from from halftime on, they were the
better team. I'm sorry they were the better side. Oh,
they're better side every day this time we play for
you a portion of a show earlier on Fox Sports

(01:17:32):
Radio Fox Sports TV. We call it No Jip. Bayliss
had this to say about Magic Johnson landing Lebron James.
And as much as I love Magic Johnson and I
do love him on and off the court, he was
my favorite all time Laker and he was the greatest
coming for me. But all that said, I give him

(01:17:53):
zero credit for Lebron's decision to come to l A.
I give him zero credit for any word he uttered
in those three hours he spent up on Lebron's rooftop
on that Saturday evening here in Los Angeles. Lebron had
already decided to be a Laker. You know it and
I know it. And the tip off from what we
just heard from Magic was Lebron had already gone carefully

(01:18:17):
over the entire roster. He was breaking down Kyle Kuzma's
game from Magic to the point that Magic said he
knew more about my roster than I know about my roster.
It was a foregone conclusion. It was a formality of
a meeting, okay, but you still could have screwed it up,

(01:18:38):
right Like that's that's that's the point nothing, none of
what what Skip is saying. First of all, he's Magic
is doing what Magic does. Right, if if you go
back and listen to Magic's comments, which is what Skipp
is is referring to. Magic was the one who said
I showed up at eight oh one. Magic was the

(01:18:58):
one who said he knew every guy in a roster.
He loves Luke Walton system. Like, look, Magic is, he's painting.
He's doing the pr thing he's painting. Do I think
that Lebron likes Kyle Kuzma? Yeah? Do I think he
was breaking down his game, probably knows some of his game.
He's a very smart basketball player who watched the Lakers
play some because he might play for the Lakers, and
he played against him twice this year. But remember, Magic

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is doing that, doing that thing that really smart people do,
which is letting other people take credit, letting Lebron take
credit for running the meeting, letting Luke Walton system, letting
their players take credit. However, it got done. It got done.
He didn't screw it up, and plenty of others have

(01:19:44):
screwed it up. It's called closing. Ask any basketball coach
in college football or basketball, or even baseball. The assistant
sets you up. Sometimes the kid he grew up wanting
to go and play for you. All you gotta do
is stay on script. Don't go off script, coach, don't
go off script. And they can't help themselves and they

(01:20:05):
go and they screwed up. Magic Johnson is the greatest
Laker ever. It's not Kobe, but this is one. Magic
now is like, wow, Kobe is the greatest, likeker every
why because that's what Magic Johnson does. So Magic telling you, hey,
Lebron did this and he knows that that's what Madgie does.
Give him credit for the fact that Lebron needed to

(01:20:28):
be closed, need to be closed, and in three hours
he closed the deal. The ink is dry. He's a Laker.
Credit is due, whether you like it or not, obvious
for closers. Put that coffee down. Music doesn't even know

(01:20:51):
what that's probably just not. I knew you were gonna
come to me. I can't remember the name of the movie,
but I just know there albol have you have you
seen the movie? Or what that coffee down? Yes? What
is second place? Yet? Ah Ramus was a second place? Nothing? No,

(01:21:15):
does it a Cadillac or some sort of car first
places a Cadillac, second place is stag nice, third place
to say your third place anything, I'm sorry? Third of
what uh coffee is for closers from Glengarry Glenn Ross
Classic first place, Cadillac, second place, state nice, third place?

(01:21:38):
Thank you, Steve Okay, steer fired fired, You're fired. That's
what third place is. Pitt the bricks, pal, That's what
it is. Third places, You're fired. Your boss is not
supposed to be your friend. He's your boss. He's your boss.
It happened in football last week. It's happening in asked

(01:22:00):
Bill this week. Adam Silver wants to be buddies. But
guess what. He's commissioner at the NBA. I'll explain next
in the Doug Gotlip Show. What Up? It's the Dog
Gottlip Show. Fox Sports Radio coming to you from the

(01:22:21):
beautiful city of Los Angeles, California. We have we have
a World Cup Final. I want to I'm gonna get
to the boss this thing Adam Silver is doing, which
I just I think is dumb. I don't. We'll get
to in a second. Did you guys see what happened

(01:22:42):
or hear what happened last night with the Indians and
the Royals of Indians and the Reds. Do you hearing
this story? Guys? Okay, So Terry Francona is the manager
of the Indians, right, and the Indians were the Indians

(01:23:04):
were taken on the Reds last night. So apparently he
goes out, Uh, they they were actually up for nothing
in the game, and their reliever uh started to falter,
all right, So he goes to the bullpen and he

(01:23:30):
points to his left arm. Only a righty comes out
to face Joey Vado, and of course Joey Vado ends
up hitting a basis clearing double. So then the story
comes out that that's not exactly what Terry Francona wanted

(01:23:51):
to have happened. He wanted Oliver Perez. So how does
that happen? How do dan Otaro go out there instead
of Oliver Perez? Really interesting, isn't it. Well, apparently he

(01:24:12):
called to the bullpen, called his pitching coach and told
Carl Willis O p Oliver Perez. And because baseball is
the only place on Earth in which they still use
land lines, and and I don't know if you've experienced
this on radio, but landlines aren't even his effective He

(01:24:34):
used to be like call me back in the landline,
but the landline is not sometimes not as effective as
a cell phone. Anyway, Carl Willis thought, he said, O T,
which is dan Otaro. That's his nickname, or his nickname
is is it's not even his initials. Op is at
least Oliver Prez his initials. But O T dan o'taro.

(01:24:55):
So he's like, oh, so he comes out the bullet.
Frank ConA comes out to make the change, and dan
Ontaro comes back, comes out, and he gives up. By
the way, o tero versus left handed hitting gives up

(01:25:15):
three is the batting average for lefties against him, Like
there is one part to the one part to the
Terry Francona thing, which and I do believe it was
a mistake in communication. It's not like I don't believe
the story. But why not just go like no, no, no,
no, no no, no, go back in there as soon as
you see the wrong guy running out there, And they

(01:25:35):
did do that, but why not wait and actually just
I want Oliver press let him get but he misheard
him and that is a stunning story. By the way,
Votto was over four with a walk and uh he
was hit by a pitch in six career appearances versus Otero,

(01:25:56):
He's four for thirteen with a homer and a walk.
Does have six uh six strikeouts in fourteen clear career
appearances versus Perez. So Ohtaro had been good against Joey Vado,
he just wasn't good last night. But Otaro is not
good against leftist. Joey Vato is a lefty, which brings

(01:26:17):
me to my most important point. Let's stop with the
initials thing as nicknames. Initials are initials. Nicknames are nicknames.
Ryan Music's nickname, I believe is Music. That's his last name,
but at least it's not as confusing as RM. Do

(01:26:38):
you have any other nickname? John Ramos? Do you everybody
calls you Ramos? Nothing? Nope, the segor. Do you have
a nickname that you would like to share one you
don't want to share? That's a Steve. We all call
you Stevie D. That's true, that's true. Sorry, I think
see Stevie D. Right, isn't that? Isn't that from back

(01:26:58):
in the days in which he used to rock the club?
That's right? Different pair of pants, the whole thing. I
have friends that will call me d G. My nickname
has always been Fresh, okay, like Douggy Fresh, right, whatever,
or you can just call me Gottlieb. But for now on,
let's ditch the the initials thing because it is too confusing.
Your initials, kid, you gotta have like a clever nickname.

(01:27:20):
I call it a skinny or Jimmy or fatty or
whatever it is. How about oh dog coming out of
the pit, Oh dog coming out? I need give me
the dog? Right? It was give me the dog bet
because he's skinny. Yes, my wife's nickname when she was
a kid in at Oak Grove Elementary outside of Drumwright, Oklahoma,
it's a map dot was chubby. She was nicknamed chubby

(01:27:43):
because my wife is the opposite of chubby. She was
a little she was, she was she was basically held
together by string anyway. And by the way, Adrian Peterson,
it's a D, not a p Adrian Peterson, not in though? Right?
Is he still has he retired? Is he one of those?
Is he like des Bryant where he's not retired. He's

(01:28:06):
a free agent but he hasn't been picked up yet.
A D is like the initials to his nickname, which
is all Day a P is his actual initials. It's
very confusing. And here's another thing. I know they don't
let cell phones in the clubhouse, but had they allowed
cell phones in the clubhouse or they allowed to type

(01:28:26):
out what you want? Like? This is a problem. Remember
with um in the World Series when the Cardinals were
in the World Series one year? Uh was who was
the Tony la Russa, the toylus the bullpen could not
hear him. I couldn't hear him at all. All right,

(01:28:46):
I got a home run for the Cubs as they
climbed to uh, it becomes was it four three? Now?
Johnny Quado's surrenders the home run to Chris Bryant to
run home run straightaway center field. That's in the top
of the fifth inning at San Francisco. John Ramo's resident
Dodger fan applause and claps. Let's get to the one

(01:29:08):
of the stories today. So Adam Silver, they have border
Government Vegas has become like the center of NBA offseason.
They have Board of Governors meeting, a lot of free
agents meet there. They have the NBA Summer League kind
of everybody's there. So Adam Silver comes out of the
Board of Governor's meaning. He's like, hey, look, we don't
want artificial parody. We don't want to create artificial parody.

(01:29:29):
We want to naturally happen on its own. You. Oh yeah,
by the way, we want to change we want to
change um the age limit from nineteen to eighteen. I've
listened to enough of Adam Silver to where I realize
Adam Silver is he's trying to win every room, every room,

(01:29:55):
and that's impossible. I get that you want to be popular.
I get that you want to be liked, but sometimes
when you're a leader, you have to be respected and
you have to do what's right for either the company
kay or for the sport in this case, and look,

(01:30:17):
offering up the idea, like offering up the idea maybe
we should go one to sixteen and not worry about
east versus West, and Adams was like, look, we'll have
to look into it, and I'll say we got some
We had a really, really thoughtful discussion. I almost find

(01:30:38):
myself yearning for the days of David Stern. Tell me
how it is. Look, dude, we're not gonna go eat.
We're not going to combine to east and west, because
if we combined east and West. It's going to kill
the Eastern time zone. Kill it. The games are unwatchable
to the Eastern time zone viewer. And then you run

(01:30:59):
the risk sco all Western time zone games, and that
just doesn't work. East versus West works. It works for
our two partners and Turner, and in ESPN it doesn't work. Otherwise,
then your factor in the travel which is ridiculous, the
massive change to the schedule which is really hard, and

(01:31:22):
the upheaval of of the arrivals in proximity. The Warriors
got good on their own. The Rockets nearly caught him
on their own. The seventies sixers have gotten good on
their own. The Boston Celtics won a title, recreated their
own Big Three on their own. The Miami Heat got
good on their own. Stop trying to change different rules

(01:31:44):
and make it. They'll figure it out to be okay.
They are trends. It is cyclical. The pendulum will always
always swing always. But Adam silver Is I don't think
he's afraid of it. I think he so much of

(01:32:07):
how we are is based upon how we were raised, right,
and how he was raised in this business. Was he
was the guy who watched David Stern walking to all
those boardrooms and kiss everybody off. I don't want to
be that guy. I don't want to. I want people
to talk about me the way they talked about David
Stern when he would walk out of the room. But
you know what put the league in a better place.

(01:32:28):
And that's what the job calls for. What it calls for?
Eight seven seven nine nine. Fox is the phone number.
It's it's do you want to you know what it's like.
Do you want to be cool dad or do you
want to be a good dad? Al Right, cool dad
has all the kids over. Cool Dad, you can crack

(01:32:50):
a beer. It's okay in my house. You're a teenager.
Now you want to be mad? Go ahead, drinke beer,
Go ahead, go ahead. We'll make sure you get home safe.
By the way, you know, cool dad is a bad influence.
Cool Dad, by the way, would be liable for a
kid that drinks a beer. Drink a beer on my property,
go off my property, hit somebody the car. Cool Dad

(01:33:10):
is liable. I wanna be cool dad. Want to fit in.
You know what, kids in a little bit of discipline,
you have to be a jerk about it. Somebody's not behaving.
Somebod's not acting. You don't have to curse, and don't
curse in front of your kids just to act like
you're cool. Don't sit down there and play video games
with them to try and act like you kind of
fit in. Let them be kids, give them, give them
the proper boundaries, the proper guidance. But push over dad.

(01:33:37):
People don't respect you, other parents don't like you, and
your kids aren't the better because of it. Sadam's Olver,
push over Dad. Whatever you guys want, You guys want
eighteen year old in the league. Okay, Twitter One's eighteen
year olds in the league again, let's do it. It's
too hard to make them go to school longer, even

(01:33:57):
though it's better for the product. It's up. People don't
like it. I wonnat be liked. I don't be respected,
especially when you were in the league. Summers here, which
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Auto Zone allR. We're gonna catch up with c Jim
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on the potential to change the playoff format. It's changed
the regular season schedule as well. I want to get
his thoughts on We'll take We'll find out what he
thought Damian Lillard meant from his series of tweets about
being happy and does he think the championship trophy should

(01:34:42):
already be given to the Warriors? I'll ask c Jim McCullum.
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(01:35:04):
really in Las Vegas, NBA Summer League. They got the
Board of Governors meetings, and they got guys like CJ.
McCullum has got a awesome podcast out there. He kind
of have to join us here on the Doug Gotlum Show. CJ.
How are you I'm doing well? How you guys doing? Good? Man? Um,
let me start with what everybody's talking about with your team.
What did you make of the original tweet by Damian Lillard.

(01:35:29):
I actually didn't even see it until it was on
like what Bleacher Report or something like that. I wasn't
really saying attention, but um, I know Dame. I talked
to Dame pretty often. Why didn't really think think of
it as anything? But in the outside world, if you're
not part of the organization, then I can see how
you would leave. You would be skeptical or maybe I
think I think something of it. Yeah, so it was

(01:35:51):
one I mean, is that is that really what it is?
It was just one of those cases where he just
really said, I'm typically a happy camper, right that that
was his tweet, I'm tip be a happy camper. It
what did we misperceive the Hunter forty characters? It wasn't
even Hunter forty characters that he put out there. Yeah, yeah,
I think it was a little blown out of portion,
blowing up a portionate a little bit, just based on

(01:36:13):
what's going on. Obviously, there's a lot of rumors squirling
around our team in general, and there have been very
much for years. Someone asked him a question and he
answered it basically saying that he's typically happy, like basically
like he suttinly happy all the time. So I think
I think that was an accurate statement. And what he
said he typically is happy, you know, most of the times.
And people are gonna make up rumors in garless and

(01:36:33):
what you say, if you answer, if you don't answer it,
there's always going to be something. But I mean, when
it comes down to it, he's a member of the
vote in trouble. What was your reaction when Boogie signed
with the Warriors. I was I was actually on a
plane flying back from Miami to Portland, and my girls
showed me her calm. She was like Mark's cousins just

(01:36:56):
s I was like, stop playing, right, stop playing. I
went to sleep, I didn't leave it. Then I woke
up two hours later, signed into my WiFi, and sure
enough that had happened. I was shocked. I was surprised,
you know, at the number he signed for, Surprise that
he chose the Warrior, surprise that or other teams more interested,
and surprise that he didn't get a bigger offer from

(01:37:19):
another team. Surprise the Lakers did go after him. There
was a lot of thought that went through my head
of that time, so I had to imprect him. I guess,
I guess my question. They let me ge you guys
from the playoffs. They've done it a couple of times. Um,
are we sure it makes them better? And and here's why,
Like I understand, like in the world of fantasy sports,
like you add an all star to a team like yeah,

(01:37:40):
but one he's coming off injury and too, you know,
the beauty to them was that they could play small
and switch everything. They may be like, look, he can
boogie if if healthy can really play, We don't know
healthy he'll be and help good he'll be, and it
changes their ability to switch everything because he's a true
five defensively, all right. I think it'll be tough at first.

(01:38:03):
You gotta make adjustments. Obviously he's not gonna be able
to play and start the season. They'll probably stay out
a little bit to get the more comfortable with, you know,
the recovery process of injury, more comfortable with the Warriors
offensive decency schemes and principles. But overall, I think when
once they figure it all out, it's still help them
because the fact that he's probably the best back to
basket guy you know, on their team for sure. I

(01:38:24):
think Sean Livytin was their biggest post ups, right, Draymond
patted a lot of the post and he doesn't really score,
and that gives him just a different you know, he
can shoot threes, he's capable pastor, has great vision average
or five or six the game, and can embrace double
teams and post other teams. So overall, I think once
they figure out the continuity and and you know, the
touches and where he's gonna get his shots from it,

(01:38:46):
I don't see why they can't be successful with arguably
the best big in the NBA. The podcast is called
The Pull Up uh C J McCollums. To start with
the goal with the with the Portland Trailblazers. He joints
us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's get to lebron Um. It it felt like there
was a foregone conclusion that he would end up in

(01:39:07):
l A. When when it became official that he was
going to l A, what did you think. I wasn't
surprised when you look at the options on the table
for him, and you know, based on the type of
situation he was looking for the market obviously, what he's
doing in the community, what he's doing outside of the
sports round, which options and getting more involved with Tale.

(01:39:29):
It made sense Um looking at because career clear, how
many years he put in there and what he's done
for the community. When he jumped in the state of
Hile the game of basketball anymore, I feel like there
was only two options, and I don't think the Houston
Rockets was the options he wanted to take. Agreed Um,
how far away are they when they add Lebron? I mean,

(01:39:51):
you have Lebron, you always have a chance. You can
put the brown out there where for this king man
on the roster and you're gonna have a chance to
win games. So it just more about health, you know,
how they figure out the rotation with with Rondo coming in,
Arega just signed Pole, they got KU's money on Ingram,
they got a lot of wings who can played. You
just gotta figure out the rotation. Who's going to start,

(01:40:11):
a point guard, who's gonna close game? And obviously matchups
will be uh will be something to look forward to.
The geing in the Western Conference because you never know
what these are gonna get. You never know we're gonna
match up anything possible there. Look, there are people, there's
a lot of people who think, hey, man, Western Conference
is so loaded that we should go one through sixteen. Um.

(01:40:33):
I sit there and go like, you know, look, I
think the Western Conferences is better than the Eastern Conference.
But I'm not sure we're giving credit for for for
Milwaukee and and what what Janice is helping build there.
But we gotta pay attention to Philadelphia and with those
young guys, they're going to get better. Boston at full
strength should be very very good. Toronto is pretty good

(01:40:54):
as well. Like, are we completely dismissing the East a
little bit too early? I mean, I think the Eastern
Conference is good, but the Western Conference the depth. You
look at the dominance and some of the teams that
have won in the last few years that the Rockets
win the sixty five games and not even um getting

(01:41:16):
to the finals. You look at the Warriors, how donan
they've been the last years. I think you you look
at the top of the West and the top of
the East, and that's where the comparisons come out. And
then you add Lebron to the Western Conference and athment
teams start to or people start to talk about the
differences in the Eastern West. I think it's both very competitive,
but the edge probably goes to the West right now
just because of the depth and how good the topic.

(01:41:36):
But there are some very strong teams in Eastern Conference.
But the the proof is in the pudding. The Warriors
have been dominant and they've contended for champiship last couple
of years. The only other team to compete with him
with the team Lebron was on, and now Lebron is
in the in the Western Conference. So I think that's
why they're the disparity and people continue to try to
put down the on the other conference that that part
is fair. Um sege McCullum joining us obviously we started

(01:41:59):
by real acteam to what Damien tweeted, and I think
the reason is, look, you guys were great in the
second half of season, him especially at incredible second half
of the season, and uh and but there there there's
always gonna be people that say, look, that's as good
as it gets, like you're never gonna take that next
step and so and so when when he tweets out, hey,

(01:42:21):
I'm always atty Camper about the possibility of going to
the Lakers, there's like a confirmation bias in it, right, like, oh, well,
of course he wants to go to a team with Lebron,
so now he can compete for a championship. What's it
like to deal with the reality of Man, it's really
hard to get that one more step, that Warriors level step,
or even that Rockets level step when you're in Portland. Yeah,

(01:42:43):
it's tough. It's tough to win regardless of where you're at,
especially in the Western Conference, and haven't played the Warriors
a lot of times the last you know, five years.
You see what a championship Colbert team looks like. You
see how they execute, you see how they play together,
you see how great they are defensively. And it's tough
and it's right straining. But it's a part of life.
Nothing that'shing in life is gonna be easy. It's not
easy to to live in America. It's not easy to

(01:43:05):
work at a nine to five, it's not easy to
play in the NBA, and it's not easy to make it.
So I figure out ways to improve, figure out ways
to get better, and control the controllable. That's kind of
how I've always lived my life. I can only control
my preparation, my mindset and my attitude every day. The
rest of it's gonna be what it's gonna be. Okay,
so uh. The podcast is called The Pull Up. If

(01:43:26):
people haven't heard, haven't downloaded it, what's it like? He
should definitely subscribe. You can subscribe anywhere. To Pull Up,
I would basically just talk about what's going on in
the n B A, I get wine recommendations, I can
book the recommendations. Occasionally. I've had guests on, will continue
to add guests from different backgrounds and Loss of Life.
I've had the producer of Billions on the five Love It,

(01:43:47):
I Do It. I've had d Wayed on. I am
a huge Billions fan, so shout out to shout out
to Blane, what're coming on? But it's been great. It's
been great for me to just kind of talk about
my stought from the NBA and I talked on similar league,
certain rookies. I think I'm gonna play well like Kevin Knox,
who's surprised a lot of people although he was food
on Draft night, you know, typical Knicks fans. He's never

(01:44:07):
not Draft Night. I think he's gonna really help them,
but he just give a variety of takes, you know,
and what it's like to be in the NBA. But
it's like to you know, watch the games in my
point of view. Okay, so let me let me ask
you about Kevin Knox. I too liked him before the
draft eighteen. I think, you know, as a face up
four can play some three. You know he's his body's
gonna get even better. Um So why do you think

(01:44:30):
why do you think some teams missed on him? I
think a lot of Kentucky players are better in the NBA. Um,
there's so much talent around them, their certain rules to
where you know Anthony Dave is you look at devil
Booker Stave, I won't think at the NBA even cry
Athony Town. But I think he's starting to see how
well rounded he is as a player. Versatility, can shoot

(01:44:51):
obviously as a nice looking jump shot, even though you
know we about thirty five or thirty six or sent
I'm here in college. He's big, He's able to guard,
like he said before, you can guard to four. And
it's is a large wing with athleticism and ability to
you know push tempaul awful off a rebound. So I
think he has all the tools to be successful, just
about putting them together. Who's been disappointing to you that

(01:45:11):
you've watched in Vegas? Yeah? I honestly I haven't really
watched that much. I've been working out. Wait wait wait,
wait wait. You can tell me how much you like
how Kevin Knox and other rookies, but you you don't
get you don't offer up anything negative. Well not really,
because it's it's summer league. So when when you play well,
I watched how you played well. I don't necessarily judge

(01:45:33):
to the point six rebounds. I'm looking at how you're scoring.
Does to translate to an actual NBA game? You know?
Can you score at three levels? You have a mid
range game? Can you finish yourround the basket but you
have a float? If you're a guard, can you shoot
threes catching? Shoot open? Can you shoot threes catching shoe contested?
Can you shoot threes off the dribble? So that's kind
of what I watched, and whether you make or miss it,
I can tell them your skill sets. You're going to
be successful now, so I don't really get caught up

(01:45:55):
in trade y'all shooting poorly or shooting well, because you know,
like it's workally, he's made shots. It's just about the
shot selection where he's shooting shots from how he's running
the offense, and once he gets more comfortable and the
resta room, he's get morencomfortable still be successful. But Summer
League is isn't always indicative of the NBA success. That
guy like John Selby who was one really MVP. You've
got a guy like Draymond who is terrible in some

(01:46:18):
one of the one of the worst some of the
players we've ever seen, honestly, and he's a very very
good NBA players, So it doesn't necessarily always equate to
success either way. I just kind of try to watch
the intangibles and as a player who plays the game
and has guarded certain guys like how does how do
they score? How do they fan? How their bi language?
That stuff that translates to success or failure in league?
How how important? And I look, I I completely agree

(01:46:40):
with you in terms of people get so caught up
and make or miss. It's more about the shot selection.
It's also about can you get by guys, But what
about the other end of the floor in terms of
level of effort, level of toughness, and level of ability. Um,
I don't think it. Fans think nobody guards anybody in
the NBA. The reality who it is. If you can't

(01:47:00):
guard anybody, you can't play in the NBA. How much
do you pay attention to that? Definitely attention to that
as well. And it's the saying goes, there's this great
defense and there's better offense. There's a lot of great
defense out there, and there's a lot of extremely talented
players offensively to where like Kevin Durround, you can play
great defense to do everything in your power to pre

(01:47:20):
been a tough shot and he still makes it. So
it can a guy move to see as you know
they ain't gole you help him as to communicate that deepense?
How does he fire over screens to the guard? Those
are things that are a cruisial part of the game.
You're looking at nineties hundred and fifteen picking rolls, think
about how many possessions in the game. Can't he get
over screens? Is he weak? Is he's strong physically? You know,

(01:47:41):
does he died as he crashed? If you're a big man,
does he boxed out? Or you just go for the
rebound because you have a motor. You know, there's a
questions about DeAndre aDNA and whether or not he has
a motor. I think he's coming out with a chip
on his show to try and get chased doown block,
going after every offensive rebound, trying to show that you
know he does have a motor and he is worthy
of the NFL. CJ McCollum, great stuff that you're giving us, um, okay,

(01:48:02):
So knowing all of this and knowing all of the
things you look for, it's Doug Gotlib show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, I'm fascinated by the mellow thing, right,
so mellow mellow. It looks like they're either gonna trade
him or buy him out, or smooth or not smoothing
a stretch him and so he'll be gone from there?

(01:48:23):
Does it? Does it change in a locker room how
he can be and how the presidency has based upon
the salary he earns. What I've always thought on this
is a working premise. You live in, you work in
NBA locker rooms. I do not. I've always thought, hey, man,
if a guy's making twenties seven million, he's got a
little bit more say than if a guy's playing at

(01:48:44):
the minimum. Because he was bought out at seven million.
I guess my question is, Kenny is can you get
the best out of Mellow whatever he's got left in
a championship type situation if the leadership is different and
if he's making a different salary. Absolutely, I think Melow
is who he is. You know, it's a going five score.
He showed that because score at three levels, he could

(01:49:05):
do a light of too things. Then you had a
tough transition. Okay, see it's a different role role. He's
not normally a custom too. He had to shoot a
lot of catching street threes. And we're talking about a
guy who's two years and moved from averaging twenty five
points per game in the NBA. The talent is still there.
I think the motor of the driver is gonna be there.
He's gonna be out the proud people wrong and she's
a big big year for him individually, and thing's gonna
do whatever it takes to to help himself succeed individually

(01:49:27):
and the health of team succeed. So salaries decide. You know,
there's a lot of wealth with people to leave. There's
a lot of guys who want minimums. I think from
a credibility and ability, STANDPOINTSICI respect them. Now it's just
about him finding the right situation, whether that's Miami or
at Houston or wherever he decided to go, and then
applying himself and making shot, you know, descending better doing

(01:49:47):
those things that you know, whatever team he goes to
is gonna need for them to be successful, for him
to continuity spanned his career. The podcast is called to
Pull Up CJ mccullums. You're watching with the Portland Trailblazers.
You fall on social media and apparently it gives wine
recommendations as well. What I need. I don't need that.
I just need the cell phone because I never know
what to order with one. I can't listen to the
podcast and then remember that and they go, Okay, write

(01:50:10):
this down. I'm gonna order this one. I need like,
you know, I need to sound like I know what
I'm talking about. I was at the restaurant last night.
They're like, do you want one? I was like, I
have no idea what I'm looking at? None? Yeah, man,
you gotta here. I try to educate yourself. I ask questions,
use the Vivino app, and you figure out ways to
uh taste certain lines, learn about the great research it
and then actually continue to go to a certain mating

(01:50:32):
at restaurants, you'll be able to pick out what whether
you want a French Bordeaux, whether you want Italian one,
and you want to software at a bowl red a
strong red. Do you want a Sonoma coach or do
you want more of a smooth Italian Italian grapes. So
you just gotta go through it. The more you taste it,
the more you're asking questions, it's easier to kind of
learn about it. And then when you do wine taking
and taking that nature you were comfortable with, you know,

(01:50:55):
go on through the selection process. Great stuff, c J.
C J. McCullum, thanks so much for joining us. I'll
thank you. Pleasures mind. C J. McCullum joined us. Let's
get to Steve Segger. Lots of stuff going on in sports,
including we have a World Cup final and it's France, No,
not England, it's France Croatia. Sunday morning on Fox TV,
eleven am Eastern Time. England scored very early fifth minute

(01:51:17):
and didn't score again, lost in overtime to one to Croatia,
which is now six and oh in the tournament. There
is a third place game on Fox Saturday morning, England
against Belgium. Number one Roger Federer lost his quarterfinal at
Wimbledon in five sets, thirteen eleven in the fifth. It
came against number eight seed Kevin Anderson. Will face American
John Isner next. In the other semi Novak Djokovic, seeded

(01:51:39):
twelve this year, advanced and he will face Raphael Nadal
in that semifinal. Nadal one in five sets, six four
and the fifth against Juan Martin del Potro. The Lady
semifinals are tomorrow that includes Serena Williams. Major League Baseball,
the All Star Games final vote ended this afternoon. The
winners will be announced tonight eight pm Eastern time. The
Tampa Bay Rays won their fifth straight game, four two

(01:52:01):
over Detroit, Pittsburgh, shoutout Washington to nothing Minnesota, and eight
five winner against Kansas City. Johnny Queto started in San
Francisco through the first five innings with seven strikeouts and
it's a four three Giants lead over the Cubs top
of the six, he did allow a home run to
Chris Bryant, coming off the injured list, he had a
shoulder injury. Two run shot for the Cubs third basement.

(01:52:22):
By the way, Houston tonight will be hosting Oakland. Houston
has sent reliever Ken Giles to triple A with an
r A. Have about five back to you. Well, also,
you think he dropped f bomb in his manager's direction
when he got pulled last night? Right? That is correct?
Did you see how they won? No? Oh my gosh,
Houston game last nut craziness in baseball last night? Okay, so,

(01:52:44):
um wasn't It was on a drop third strike, a
drop third strike and I gotta pulled up red standing. Yes,
so so Giles blew the save? All right, Giles blue
the save. But um, it was just a it could
only be determined, will only be called a bizarre finish. So,

(01:53:06):
so here's what happened. It's the eleventh inning and Alex
Bregman's at the plate and he gets called for He
swings MRS strike three, drop third strike. Jonathan Lucroix picks
up the ball and they they like, uh, I don't
know what Bregman forgot that it was dropped third strike,
And then all of a sudden, instead of running towards

(01:53:27):
first base, he liked back pedals for like two steps
to avoid a tag and luke Roid drops the ball. Okay,
luke Roix picks up the ball and throws it to
first base and airmails it, and so the the Astros
had another runner on came around to score upheld with
video obviously well and what didn't even need video. I

(01:53:49):
mean the Lucroid dropped the ball, dropped the ball, and
he picks it up and he throws it the first
and he airmails. He misses it completely misses the first baseman,
and the Astros had another runner on basic came around
the score. She Suston won a game this year on
an infield pop up where the padres from Spaceman came
in said I got it. I got it, and he
didn't have it correct. I mean you want them about
being it's better sometimes better be good than lucky, I

(01:54:11):
mean better sometimes better be lucky than good. Yeah, I
mean it was just an absolutely crazy play as uh
as Jonathan luke Roix, who was good catcher but dropped
the ball then through the first base and kind of
freaked out, and the the Astros came around the score.
That's two wins in just miraculous fact. And this is
already the defending World Series chance. Yeah, they have an

(01:54:34):
incredible lineup. Yeah, the better. They added Garrett Cole and
their first in the a OS as superbous and unexpected
as Seattle season has been. Houston's four games over Seattle
in the division already amazing, amazing. Yeah, Tucker Tucker comes,
came around and scored from second base on the on
the air and throw their big prospect crazy stuff. Also,

(01:54:57):
did you guys see the Gordon Hayward video? Oh have
you guys seen this? So Gordon Hayward has I think
two or two little girls. And I told you guys
that he lives in San Diego in the off season,
gets up five o'clock every morning, gets in lifts and
stretches and everything for an hour. Then he works out
for an hour and then he goes back and the
whole rest of the days with his family. So his

(01:55:18):
wife's pregnant. So they did a um a gender announcement,
gender reveal. Here's what it sounds like. Okay, ready, say daddy,
can you help me? Help you? Okay? Balloons? Whoa? You

(01:55:40):
want a girl? Pretty? You were right? Is daddy happy?
Daddy's always happy. You have to see the body language. Now.
Part of it is he comes from the Brad Stephens
school of let's not get too emotional. I have to girls.
I love My daughters are twin girls are awesome. Um

(01:56:05):
and I did not do the fist pump when I
found out I was having a boy. I did not.
But I mean, like a picture tells a thousand words,
a picture of him says a million more. Yes, Ryan
music was their fear when when you yeah, yeah, okay,
but you know my I mean and all honestly, Like
my my wife is even she's even said like I

(01:56:26):
wanted to go for four. Even numbers better. You know,
even numbers better. Yeah, even numbers better than four is
better than three lots. But people, once you get past two,
you're going man to his own anyway. Whatever. When you
have four, they can team up, and three is it's
just an odd number. It's hard. They two will play
with one and want to get left out, or they'll
team up on each other. Yeah, it's it's an interesting dynamic.

(01:56:48):
I'm one of three. Our brother has three, my sister
has three, so we all have it's all threes. But
I would my preference would have been for four. It's
like my wife. My wife even said, like, look, if
we could have had a little boy like I just
the girl thing, a lot of emotions, a lot of
crying out girls. They're incredibly loving and they're interesting, and
to me, it's just fascinating to watch another sex grow

(01:57:10):
up next. You know, under your your guidance. But yeah,
I mean, any dude once at least one boy, you
want at least one boy. And look, I think if
you have all boys, you want a girl. Everybody thinks
that the guys only want all guys. Like, dude, you
get all boys, there's all I mean, everything smells like farts.
They just punch each other all the time. The mess.

(01:57:30):
You do need a little bit of balance. It's it's
like the House and the Senate and the President, like
we need a little bit of You need balance. You
can't have all one side of the other. Hall of
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(01:57:55):
every topic you need to hear about in as short
period time as possible. Here's Deve de Sega what he got.
Steve turned into a great semifinal at the World Cup,
Croatia versus England. You know, the estimated population of England
is fifty four million people, Croatia four million people. They're
going to the World Cup final for the first time ever.

(01:58:15):
We mentioned it earlier in the show. The World Cup
has been around since nineteen thirty. England, with its rich
history in this sport, has only been to the World
Cup final once ever. Croatia, though, is going with a
population equal to that of the Los Angeles city limits
for four million people. Croatia is going a Doug. I
saved this paper from the Golden Nugget when we went

(01:58:36):
through Vegas this like year, year and a half ago.
Of the odds to win the World Cup for eighteen,
Germany and Argentina where the top two, and of course
they're out of this tournament. Long ago. France was eight
to one to win it all, Croatia fifty to one
to win it all, and they're in their first ever final.
Wish I was there and I would have put obviously
now looking at their talent, I would have I would

(01:58:58):
have put them. I would have put put out of
bucks on that. You know, you have film pretty good
about yourself. Just by comparison, the US was forty to
one to win it all, Croatia fifty to one at
the time. And they say that Vegas always knows. Apparently
Vegas apparently not onto the NFL as in battle Bucks
quarterback Jamis Winston spent yesterday working out with Randy Moss,

(01:59:19):
a couple of weeks ahead of Buccaneers training camp opening. Winston,
of course, we'll open the upcoming NFL season with a
three game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy.
There was a comment from Randy Moss on Jamie, he's
doing things right and bumping the road. He's doing something
right in a bump in the roadman, Just continue to fight.
It happens. You know what I'm saying. You know what

(01:59:40):
he did was wrong. You know, I'm not sitting up
and saying right or wrong. There was a woman involved,
so I'm not gonna get in all that. What he
did was wrong. He knew he was wrong. So I
think it's up for him as a man to understand
what he did wrong, to live and learn from it
and let it go. From Tampa Bay Online on Winston, look,
you know we're in making break. He played better last season,
that there were some moments in which he was disappointing.

(02:00:00):
The team wasn't good enough around him. They need to
get better. Um, I don't know, I just I really
believe this that jameis Winston. Dude, you gotta you gotta
figure out any one of these incidents in it by
themselves outside of the Florida State thing, which three times

(02:00:22):
he's been cleared of, right, but any of on the
incident by himself, You're like, Okay, I can see where
this might but there's just too many little things for
a guy who's that talented. It's almost like you you
want him to have a somebody with him at all
times because you don't trust him. Also in football, Bills,
running back Lashawn McCoy has hired a prominent Atlanta defense
attorney amid a police investigation into a home invasion that

(02:00:45):
sent his former girlfriend to the hospital after she was
allegedly beaten and robbed of jewelry. Police there in the
Atlanta suburb have not named any sub suspects, but the
office of this defense attorney, Don Samuel, confirms that it
is representing the office is McCoy. He has represented other
high profile clients such as the Ray Lewis charged with

(02:01:05):
murder thing in two thousand, charges were later dropped. Yeah,
I mean like, look, I don't want to. I don't
want to correlate Ray Lewis's charges with Shady McCoy's. I
don't know what's what. I know the picture was super
super graphic. I don't know if Shady McCoy was one
responsible for that until I have until we have more,

(02:01:26):
I just I'm somebody that lay back the facts, or
at least some portion of the facts will come out.
And finally, Rob Polinka, Lakers general manager, saying they didn't
want to fall into the trap of other Lebron teams
of how they built the roster. This one done very
differently than past one surrounding Lebron James quote, no one
is going to beat Golden State at its own games.
That's why we wanted to add these elements of defense

(02:01:49):
and toughness to the Lakers depth and try to look
at areas where we will have an advantage end quote.
Are they that smart when they zig zag? That smart?
And business out there? Iressed that was the uh Joel
Moore head from Mississippi State. We'll be sorry, I'm get
ready for college football. Will join us tomorrow, but so
too Matt Barnes. Matt Barnes said Kobe should come out
of retirement play with Lebron. He said that Michael did

(02:02:13):
come out of retirement. Remember if a couple of years
running the Wizards. It wasn't great, but he also didn't
play with Lebron James. Matt Barnes will join us tomorrow.
We'll get you ready for uh for World Cup Final.
We have congrats. The Croatia's doug otlip show

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