July 13, 2018 • 42 mins
With Doug off, Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox fill in and give their thoughts on the possibility of Kawhi Leonard getting traded to the Raptors. They also discuss RB DeMarco Murray retiring from the NFL at age 30 and what that could mean for Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell. Plus NBA veteran and Analyst Olden Polynice joins the show to talk about the Rockets potentially signing Carmelo Anthony.
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that and a whole lot more on this Friday the
thirteen Radio. Yeah, we may have something up our sleeve,
just like those San Antonio Spurs Jonas As the Kauai
letter trade talks continue to go on in the NBA,
But don't look at the Los Angeles Lakers right now
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as a destination for Kauai Leonard report saying that the
Lakers are in no hurry to make a move for
Kauai Letterard. So a new team has vaulted to the
top of the Kauai Letard sweepstakes. Not the Lakers, not
the Celtics, not the seventies sixers. Your Eastern Conference regular
season champion Toronto Raptors are the top the betting odds
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les destination. I got news for you. If bag Dad
had an NBA team, they trade him to Bagdad. Instead,
the Spurs are not going to to gift him anything.
They're going to make this as difficult as possible. And
I'm sorry for everybody that wants to defend Kawhi Leonard
and Kawhi Leonards people in his camp. You guys butchered this.
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This is your problem. Now, it's your fault, and you
just gotta deal with the repercussions. Looking at the situation
with the Spurs, we have heard reports that they wanted
brandon Ingram from the Lakers. Don't know what the Celtics
would give them, but likely they would want Jalen Brown
as part of the package. If they're just some of
the names that were popped up. Dario Sharich part of
the Sixers deal plus first round picks was a big
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thing with this Toronto Raptors talk. It's interesting, Jonas to
hear it centator around DeMar Derozen because he is thought
to be the top player on the Toronto Raptors but
coming off of an awful playoff run. So if you
look at the pieces around and you look at the
accomplished players, brandon Ingram Uh, Jalen Brown, yeah, up and
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coming player, but DeMar Derozen has the most accomplishments, at
least to his resume of being an All Star than
any of those players. And at least if you're the
San Antonio Spurs, you would be getting a I don't
want to say, an All Star and annual All Star,
maybe a little difficult to crack in the West, but
a much better talent then you would get in the
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other deals with Boston and the Lakers, and you've got
control for a couple of years because he signed a
big term deal in in Toronto, and I love the
first of all, this is my favorite story in sports.
We can talk all we want about a Wimbledon set
that lasted three days, and that's fine if you want
to go, waste your time with that. Waste your time
with that. The Kawuhi Leonard Spurs dynamic is the most
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interesting thing in sports. Last year it was the Redskins
and Scott mccluen and that whole fiasco. This is a
disaster like that. You could not find two sides that
want nothing to do with each other more than the
Spurs and Kauai Leonard. And then you've got us a
tryouts or whatever coming up soon where Popovich is going
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to be a part of. Reportedly Kawhi Leonard is going
to be a part of This is fantastic and the
idea that not only will the Spurs not play Kate
to Kauai Leonard and put him in l A, They'll
trade for another l A Native and send him to
Toronto to get back that l A Native, just to
dangle the whole l A dynamic around with Kauai. I
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think it's fantastic. I love it. I think the Spurs
are handling it perfectly up until the point where it's
getting too late and you need to get something back
for him. Well, it's let's start with the point that
you bring up. This is good on both sides of
the equation. This isn't just a team letting a player
go like when Paul George and this is I think
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there there are parallels to take when you have this
Kawhi Leonard situation and the Paul George situation when you
put Toronto in the mixed jonas. Because the deal to
Oklahoma City, now it's worked out really well for the
Thunder that Paul George has committed there. But there was
a lot of thought around the league that Kevin Pritcher
dealt him to Oklahoma City because he felt it was
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a place where a they could get some good players
in return, but be it was a destination that he
wouldn't want to be long term, and there were others
maybe could have dealt him to the Lakers. Maybe he
could have dealt him in a three team deal to
the Cavaliers, which was one of the trades that was
out there that he ended up backing out of. The
Denver Cleveland Pacers deal Kevin Pritcher did that would have
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sent Paul George to Cleveland, so he ends up sending
him to Oklahoma City instead. No offense to Toronto. But
the fact of the matter is, I don't think the
Raptors and that organization in that city would be on
a top five list of destinations for Kawhi Leonard. I'm
sure if it would make the top fifteen in destinations
for Kawhi Leonard since Toronto was a long way from
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southern California. So this has the essence to me of
a little let's stick it to him and send them
to Toronto where we can also get a good player
in return. And there's a lot of ramifications on the
on the Raptors side of things as well. But this
San Antonio side of things reaks a lot of what
the Pacers did last year with Paul George. Yeah, and
there are some people that say, well, Toronto is a
great city, and maybe he goes there and he falls
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in love with it, and you take a chance that
you know he's not gonna be there long term, and
that's fine and all. But when when your camp comes
out and they say, will only go to this team
and that's the only way it's gonna be, and you're
dealing with an organization that wants nothing more than to
not help out somebody inside their conference who they've had
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a rivalry with in the past, then you you shoot
yourself in the foot right off the bat. At least,
Kyrie Irving a year ago said I'm willing to go
to X amount of teams. It didn't mean he was
really willing to go an X amount of teams or
stay there long term, but he gave you options. He
gave you the idea that there is something else that
would be available or possible should you find a better deal.
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Kawhi Leonards camp wanted to play hardball, and they wanted
to do it a year early. You have no control
in this, like at least at least if you want
out and you want completely away from the situation and
you want out that badly, you figure out a way
to make it work. You you'll find an exit strategy
that's going to get it done faster. Now you're in limbo.
They're floating out Toronto. There's been other teams that have
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floated out there, none of which are the l a Lakers.
I'm sorry you set yourself self up for failure the
second you came out and said only the Lakers. And
that's it. Isn't this why you put more than two
things on your Christmas list? Because you because you leave
it up to chance if you don't put seven or
eight things. That's the thing is like, Okay, yes I
love a box of baseball cards when you're a kid. Yes,
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I would love love that jersey of my favorite player.
But you can't just have those two because you're also
likely going to get more gifts, and then you're leaving
it up to chance to everybody else. That's what kai
letard when he's just saying he'd like to go to
Los Angeles, preferably the Lakers. Okay, you put two things
on your Christmas list. Now if those two things don't happen,
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you're just leaving it up the chance. He could have
done reverse psychology and said, I want to go to Atlanta, Orlando,
in Memphis, you keep me the hell away from l
a place I do not want to go anywhere near
Van Nuye. I don't want anything to do with it.
That's what Kawhi Leonard could have done. But no, he's
limited as options and from the Toronto side of things
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that Jonas, I think this is almost as intriguing with
the San Antonio Spurs because so much of the conversation
over the last week or so, the last couple of
weeks since free agency started as how do you compete
with the Golden State Warriors? And if the Raptors were
to do this deal in essence, I would say that
it may not look like they're competing, but I think
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it would say we are compe eating because we realize
what we have in our in our current situation isn't
enough to beat them. We couldn't beat a one man
show in Lebron James in Cleveland to make it to
the NBA Finals. There is no way that we are
going to be able to to move past that. You
said it yourself the Raptors. The Raptors took their shot
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and maxed out in their in their Surgeonboca deals. You've
talked about it a lot. This would allow them if
Kawhi Leonard came aboard, and even if you left after
a year of free agency, it would get them out
of the DeMar DeRos in business where he's got the
couple of years left on his contract, as he said
in with the Raptors, knowing that your ceiling is only
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so high, maybe even a reboot of all of this
is what's best for the organization. So I look at
it as the Raptors situation. You bring in Kauhai Leonard,
you're better for next season if if Kauai Leonard ends
up playing, and now you don't have DeMar de Rosen
sticking around for a couple of years at that twenty
seven million dollars, you can opt out after. But I
look at it on the Raptors position of hey, why
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not now if the East is so much for the taking,
I mean, Lebron's gone, the Sixes are still trying to
find their way. The Celtics are are welcoming Kyrie and
Gordon Hayward off of injuries. Why not go take a chance?
I think for the Raptors, I think this would be
a huge, huge move to hit restart and restart that
franchise and do it in a way that really doesn't
hurt a lot of people's feelings. Now we've talked about
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it'll how it will benefit the Toronto Raptors, We've talked
about how it would benefit the San Antonio Spurs, We've
talked about how it would benefit Kawhi Leonard, and we've
talked about how it would benefit to mar de Rozen.
There is one entity here, Dan, that we need to
talk about what would benefit them the most. You know who?
That is maybe the most important that you and I Dan,
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because we got a lot of time to fill on
weekend radio. Here. You and I do shows on the weekend,
and let me tell you something, the best thing for
our business is that Kawhi Leonard stays with the Spurs.
Because if I'm gonna watch a boat sink, I want
to watch it in slow motion. I want to see
every window o break, I want to see people jumping off,
I want to see everything that comes along with it.
I don't want to sped up. We need this to
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continue on in all the way through to this summer.
Get us through us some of the boring training camp
stories like oh my god, two teammates fought in an
NFL training camp. Wow, I've never seen that before. Unbelievable.
Get us through all that, get us through baseball. We
need this story to continue. Please stay with the San
Antonio spur. It is a history making day here on
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Fox Sports Radio on the Doug Gottlieb Show. For the
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insider Olden Polemies joins us here on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Hey,
Old and how you doing today? I'm good? How we are?
We are doing great? And well it's it's it's a Friday,
so we're doing great. We're doing remarkably well because Kauai
Leonard is in the news once again with a reported
deal or or an option to go to the Toronto Raptors.
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According to some sports books out there is the Spurs
maybe dealing the forward on the On the just overall
look of this deal, how would you view Kawhi Leonard
going to the Toronto Raptors as a former player With
everything that's going on behind the scenes of the Lakers
talk and the Sixers and Celtics talk, how would you
view it if Kawhi Leonard ended up with the Raptors. Well,
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it will be based on what Toronto has to give up.
But I would say it's similar to Lebron being in
the East. Now, Um, you know, they would just dominate
because Kauai is one of the best players we have
in this lead and so to me, he just makes
you know, a team that had to you know, the
best way in the East that much better. But again
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it's based on do they have to give even if
they have to give up the Rose and I think
they still the team in the East with Kawai lear
Hey old and if you were still playing, what would
be the worst team to get traded too? If you
had a couple of teams that you would say, oh please, Lord,
don't trade me there, whether it be location or just
roster the wrong guy. You know, you guys always asked
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the wrong guy those kind of questions. I was the
guy that I don't care if I was in timbug too, man,
as long as I'm playing and I'm getting paid, I'm happy.
Come on, come on, don't there's gonna be team mean, hey,
I'm gonna trying to make the teams. I'm on better.
You know, I had the pressure of, you know, help me.
Two teams make the playoffs for the first time in
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the history, which was the l A Clippers in the
South American So I kind of bring good luck a
little bit, holding folies join, I guess here on Fox
Sports Radio, what would it say about the Raptors though,
if they were to deal to mar De Rosen for
Kauai Leonard, I'm just the guarantee that Kauai would be
there for one season. Um that they're trying to win.
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They're trying to win right now. They're trying to get
into the finals. And also they know what they have
and the Marda Rosen, and they know what they're gonna
get with Kawai Land. It to me, the Martha Rosen
has a shelf life and it's untossed. But you know,
we know how far we can get with him. But
Kauai is a champion, and so we want to experience that.
You know, if I'm the you know, massaigah Jeny, I'm
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saying myself, Okay, I want to experience the finals with
the Kawai Land and I'm not gonna get there with
the model Rose. And he's proven you know that he
has he has limitations and it's unfortunate, but that's just
how it is. Some guys are meant for the moment
and some aren't. Olden polonies with this yere on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Fox Sports Radio, NBA insider, longtime veteran
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of the league. Do you put any not that it
has to be anybody's fault, but if you were to
say the demise of the Kawhi Leonard san Antonio Spur relationship,
who do you put the blame on as to why
the fell apart so fast? That's a great question. It
has to go in in order. Basically, it was san
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Antonio's problem. I mean, it was san Antonio's fault in
the beginning, you know, because they questioned this manhood and
everything else. And then when Kauai never spoke a word
and then became a Kauai problem, and Kauai became the scapegoat.
And so right now that's where we at. You know,
it started out that you know, it was santanis fault
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and how they handled everything, but na, it's Kauai's fault
and how he's handling everything. You know, be professional, that's
the whole thing. Be a professional. So this is a profession.
Handled the thing the right way. You don't have you know,
people speaking for you. You you have a good relationship
with Pop, you know, regardless of what the media is saying,
Oh what we perceived, you guys had a good enough,
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you know relationship because he gave you an opportunity, so
you're own him that much and vice versus. So they
should have sat down as men and hashed it out
and figure out something. Ain't gotten it done. Now it's
deteriorated to this point and it's just getting worse and worse.
And that's why he has to be traded. There's no way,
you know, like I always say, my favorite day, you
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can't put the doodle back in the Hold Hold NBA
vet joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the
The Gottlieb Show. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer in
for Doug One. More on this Kauai thing, and and
and and I know it's a little dated, but did
you have any problems with what Mono Ginobil or Tony
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Parker said during the season about Kauai. No, I didn't.
I mean that's your teammates, those of your dads you
grew up with. Basically, you know, they should be able
to come to you and question It's like, hey, what's
going on? Is it's something serious? Is it not serious?
Are you mad at the organizations? What's going on? They've
they've built enough cachet to it. They should have been
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able to do that. And just like Kauai should have
been able to go to Tony and say, hey, Tony, um,
you're hurt right now? What's going on? Yeah, I don't
question your teammates, you know, because those guys that come on,
we know that it's guy that faked the flunk. On injuries,
you know, there's being hurt and then there's an injury,
and sometimes you know, guys don't know which one's lives.
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And so again, this organization has always been able to
protect everything, and now we're seeing everything fall apart. It's
I've never seen anything like this. Yeah, I agree with you,
because I also looked at it that Genobil has been
wondering for the last couple of years if he was
going to come back. We obviously know Tony Parker's no
longer in San Antonio anymore, so his time at the
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time was running out with the Spurs. Just their statue
and what they've accomplished and how long they've been there,
I thought gave them reason to say whatever they wanted.
Considering the situation for two guys who are about to
ride off into the sunset with an organization that they
spent their entire career with, I didn't find anything wrong either,
So I was just curious on your take on that.
And then and then definitely, and they're doing the thing
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that they've never done, rebuild, you know, they Kyle Anderson
goa is gonna be done before rebuild now old and
we hear a lot about olden polonies with us here
on Fox Sports Radio. We hear a lot about, you know,
players want to go to l A and it's it's
all about, you know, the market size and this and that,
and so Lebron James chose the Lakers, you being somebody,
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and you mentioned it earlier being a member of the
Clippers during your time in the NBA. Why why have
the Clippers still not been able to attract big time
free agents? They've had a better run than the Lakers recently,
they've play in the same building. What is it about
the Clippers that still appears to be a turn off
for free agents. Well, it's just a little bit of everything.
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The fact that you know, they've never won you know, yeah,
they've won some a few games here and there, but
you know, they've never won a championship. They've never gotten
to the finals, they've never gone to the Western Compass finals.
So it's like that's a knock and players don't want that.
You know, we're all Cruisis of the moment and we
want what hot right now. So, you know, they want
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to be with the Warriors, they want to be around Lebron,
they want to be on those you know, flashy teams,
you know, and it makes it tough for them to
get guys unless they draft them or something. Happened, like
with Chris Paul. You know, we ended up getting Chris Paul.
But it's it's still tough, you know, it's tough to
get mocky guys. But I do believe that Kauai with
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him saying that he wants to be in l a
he never said it was the lakerst I could see
him ending up with the Clippers. Olden Polonies joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's join us Knocks. I'm
Dan buyer. Of course, Olden spent fifteen years in the association.
Last one for me. There's a report Carmelo Anthony in
the Houston Rockets could be a match that the Rockets
are the front runners to land the forward once he
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gets out of Oklahoma City. Do you see that being
a match in Houston? If it happens, it's gonna have
to be because he's not a match anywhere else, and
so that's the thing for him. Unless he's able to say, hey,
I willing to come up the bench, I'm willing to
put my ego aside. He's gonna go the way of
Alan Iverson, and it's unfortunate for him. You know, he
did his thing when he was playing, but you're not
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the same player anymore. I think, you know, with um Houston,
he has the relationship with D'Antoni, and I don't know
if that's gonna be a good thing all bad. I
think D'Antoni basically said, you know, putting all that behind me.
So we'll see. But again, you gotta have a lot
of office supply power. But where's your defense coming from.
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So it's a tough situation. If I was in I
would go to Miami. Miami can would stand that, you know,
they can give him more minutes and you know, more
playing time, but and they have defense, So that would
be the better situation. But Houston, we'll see, I guess.
Find him on Twitter at Olden Polities one fifteen year
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com and within the I Heart Radio app. DeMarco Murray
retired from the NFL today after seven years in the
National Football League. Murray has called that quits, was doing
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some TV recently and now has announced that maybe that'll
be his next venture because playing is no more good
for him. Man guy gets out by thirty years old.
Running backs take a pounding in the league. He made
a little bit of scratch while he was there. I
didn't play. I think he played one year on a
franchise tag if I'm not mistaken or or that was
the possibility. And then he ended up signing a big
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time deal. Um, but he did make He made a
little bit of money, so he got out by age thirty. UM.
I would love to see more guys play the Sean
Alexander route where I think Sean Alexander got paid three
times in his career as a running back, which was
pretty impressive. Um, but good for him. Well, this, you know,
this is the situation that Levan Bell needs to look
at because DeMarco Murray had that rookie contract with the Cowboys,
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ended up being a free agent after through the year
he led the NFL and rushing with over eighteen hundred
yards and then signed that huge deal forty two million
dollars for five years with the Philadelphia Eagles. What's interesting
in all of this DeMarco Murray in that forty two
million dollar contract. In addition to the money that he
made during his rookie on his rookie deal, which wasn't
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a whole lot under a million dollars in those first
couple of years, DeMarco Murray ended up making a total
of twenty five point seven million dollars in his entire career.
And the reason that number is unique and it's a
great number, and I think a lot of people would
love to take twenty five point seven million dollars in
their career is that's less than what levy On Bell
is making last year and this year. If he ends up,
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you know, playing under the franchise tag for fourteen and
a half million dollars, he would have been playing for
twenty six million dollars over a two year span. So
it looks like Jonas on the outside that Levian Bell
has really played things the right way. But when you
take a step back and you look at how NFL
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money goes and what Levian Bell had with him on
the table, if you're a young running back, and I
know DeMarco Murray's situation is is one that you could follow.
But what he needs to realize is that you've got
to take the money when you can. Levian Bell is
going to be twenty seven years old in February, so
he will play next year at twenty six years old.
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If he would have taken that deal with the Steelers,
could have made forty two million dollars in the first
three years, thirty million in the first two. I know
that's a lot of numbers, but the point is he
would have made more in those two years than he
has under the franchise tag. He then could have hit
free agency again before he's thirty years old and still
have the value of a running back in the National
Football League. It's a short career. We've known that, but
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I think DeMarco Murray's tail is, hey, take the money
when you can get it, because you never know when
it's gonna come to an end. And for DeMarco Murray,
it came just three years after he signed a huge deal.
And this has picked up a lot of talk in
the past cup the weeks because tis this season. Every
time the NBA starts free agency and a bunch of
guys get paid, or you look at mediocre players and
you see the contracts you get paid, NFL players start
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chirping about, oh, well, we're not happy about our we
need guaranteed money. We need guaranteed contracts. And the fact
of the matter is in the NFL, if you want
guaranteed contracts as it stands right now, before they the
new CBA comes out and they determine that you've got
to take it on short term deals. So the idea
that franchise tags are a bad thing, yeah, they're a
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bad thing if you look at it from well, it
doesn't it doesn't give me security beyond that point. But
we've seen players utilize the franchise tag and be smart
with it. Guys like Kirk Cousins, who is really smart
with it. He's he's in rarefied air. But you've also
seen guys like al Sehan Jeffrey who has been very
really smart with it. The fact that people, I think
would look at this and go and you and I
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agree that there was an offer on the table that
seems like it made a lot of sense. He's gonna
end up losing money the first couple of years with Pittsburgh.
There's also a segment of the population of NFL fans
that think, man, Steelers, what are you doing? Why don't
you give this guy? Sign them already? Get him done,
get the contract done. They gave him a damn good offer.
If it's what was reported, it was a damn good offer.
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DeMarco Murray was smart within and that he got a
contract that he felt was was deserving of after his
big year in Dallas, and he got it. He made
his coin and he got out with it. If Levian Bell,
it's a gamble. But if he does see the end
of this franchise run in Pittsburgh and then gets another
big time contract afterwards, he's going to get paid a lot.
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But it comes with a caveat what is Levian Bell
dealt with his entire career, either off field issues, injuries
like like all of that is it comes to and
I just think at a certain point Levian Bell looked
at this and said, well, I want to get paid
like this guy, this guy, and this guy without factoring
in all of what comes with why those guys got
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paid and why a team would be hesitant to pay you.
And he didn't do that to Marco Murray didn't have
off the field issues. You know, he got a contract
that was that that was deserving of, had no off
the field issues, and he got paid and now he's
out of the league at thirty. If Levian Bell is
looking at this from a Kirk Cousins standpoint. I'll be
fascinated to see if he gets through healthy and without
any issues, because then it's going to pay off. But
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as it stands right now, he lost money. The Kirk
Cousins at the quarterback position is the only position in
the National Football League that I think that you can
do that because it's the only position that will give
you more money as you get older, and and it's
it's so unique. You want you want your veteran quarterback
to stick around, Yes, you want him to it. At
every other position. Heck, we're sitting there looking at when
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does he turn thirty? When does he turn thirty? To
Marco Murray turned thirty. You just can't do that. And
that's why, like Levian Bell, it seems like it's great
playing for fourteen million dollars and playing for twelve million
dollars and and he wants seventeen million dollars annually. But
if he gets if he gets that contract, he's already
short four million dollars from from what he could have
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gotten in the long term deal. That's tough to make up.
And if you're Levian Bell, think about this. If you
had another good season this year, Jonas, and it's now
the next offseason he's a free agent, would get another
franchise take I know what wouldn't be the seventeen million dollars,
but you have that four million dollar becushion to work with,
you've got to take. You've got to take your money
and do that short term deal, whether it be a
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three year deal or or some something something to that effect,
something that David Johnson probably wants to look at for
Arizona because it may seem like you're really playing it
well with the other team. It only happens. I think
if you're a quarterback, I just don't see it working
out for a young running back. And you look at
the way that it played out with the Marco Murray.
He went to Tennessee, had almost a thirteen hundred yards season,
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and the Titans were like, Okay, well we're gonna give
Derrick Henry some more carries the next year. And now
two years removed from that, two seasons removed from that
almost hundred yards season, he's out of the league. I
think NFL players, if they really want this, If if
Levian Bell went to the Pittsburgh Steelers right now, and
he said, hey, how about two years, thirty million guaranteed?
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Would the Steelers take that deal? If you're Levy on Bell,
why the hell wouldn't you either. I mean, that's guaranteed money,
and if you get through it, you've got thirty million
dollars and you could potentially become a free agent again afterwards.
All Sean Jeffrey did it. He took a nine million
dollar deal after he was on a franchise tag the
year before. So in essence, he made twenty three million
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dollars because he trusted himself on a short term deal
that he was going to get paid and ended up happening.
They didn't see the end of the season before they
reapped him for four more years. I just think if
NFL players really want this money, they have got to
do it in a in short term installments. Kirk Cousins
did it. I don't know that he could get a
three year commitment from the Pittsburgh Steelers, but if he should,
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he'd be walked into their office and said two years,
thirty million dollars guaranteed, I'm yours. The Steelers would get
him in the prime of his career. They'd be out
of it afterwards. You could throw away the franchise tag.
You don't have to give him the franchise tag designation
this year, and you could be done with it in
two years. For a guy who's got off the field issues,
but he's playing hardball wanting like a five year, guaranteed contract,
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big money, they're not going to do it. It's not happening.
Seventeen million dollars annually is reportedly what Levy on Bell
wants for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and that's just not going
to happen. And and and if he wants to make
the fifteen over the you know, a piece over the two,
as you mentioned, that's something you've got to take. You've
got to take the guaranteed money when you can when
you're in NFL running back. And DeMarco Murray is a
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perfect example. It's not that DeMarco Murray played it wrong.
DeMarco Murray played on his rookie contract, hit free agency
when his did when he did, and all of a sudden,
now he's out of the league after three years. That's
that is now Jonas the lifeline. That is the typical
career of an NFL running back who has made it.
Let not let alone somebody who hasn't made it. But
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that would be considered a good career. And that's why
it's so important to take that money, because DeMarco Moorey
took that money when he did ended up making a
majority of his money from that, even though it was
just an am using air quotes seven million dollars. Be
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now to Talk Baseball is a national columnist for Bleacher
Report and also worked on a new book with former
Major League Picture and Mental Skills coach Bob Tewksberry. Former
picture in the Big League, Scott Miller joins us year
on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Scott, thanks so much for
taking the time today. Hey guys, my pleasure. Exciting time
of your trade deadline coming up, all Star Game coming off,
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all kinds of good stuff. Yeah, and l a Is
is pumped as well because the Dodgers have made it
to the top of the division, taking control of the
n L West. Last night, I'll be U by a
half game over the Diamondbacks. But the Dodgers are actually
in first place in here in southern California, it is
a big deal. So my question to you, Scott is,
now that they are in first place and have been
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in the thick of it lately, how active do you
see the Dodgers being as the trade deadline comes up
in a couple of weeks. Oh, I think they'll they'll
be active. The question is are they going to be
active on a marquee player level or on a role
player supporting player type of level. Um. You know, they've
been linked to Manny Machado forever since seemingly, I mean
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since Corey Seeger went down with the bad elbow and
in needing Tommy John surgery. Um, the Dodgers absolutely are
talking to the Orioles and that that maybe we'll see
that happen. I tend to believe Machado will go to
Milwaukee or New York simply because the Dodgers history, um,
you know, under their current baseball operations ares which has been,
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by the way, a very successful history, getting back to
the World Series last year for the first time since nine. Um,
but they don't fork over their best prospects. You know,
we didn't we saw that last year. They went't got
you Darvish because he cost less in prospects than Justin
Berlander did a few years back. Cole Hamilts they had
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a shot at they bypassed him. So I don't know
that they're going to give up some, you know, grade
A level prospects for Manny Machado. I think I kindn't
think they need to add to their pitching depth. Um,
not real sexy starting pitchers out there available right now,
but whether it's a starter, a bullpen guy, um, I
believe that's the way they'll go. But you know they
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it's early yet in the trade deadline season, so we'll
see what develops. He is. Scott Millery covers uh MLB
for the Bleacher Report with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Scott,
Manny Machado is the big name. He's the one that
everybody's been talking about. Who are a couple of names
out there that maybe haven't gotten as much buzz that
would be have a real impact on a team down
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the stretch that could be dealt at the deadline. Well,
you know, I start with starting pitching because that that's
what everybody wants. And as I said, it's it's a
little bit of a down year. I mean, Cole Hamilets
of Texas is out there. He's got no trade power,
so he can kind of direct where he where he
winds up. But um, you know, Cole Hamils is not
peak Cole Hamils. But and he hasn't been throwing particularly
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well lately, but you know he's been around the October battles.
He's he's not gonna fade from the spotlight in October.
You you kind of know with a vetteran what you're getting. Um,
you know, he would add depth to somebody's rotation. Uh
j A happ in Toronto is another starter that is available.
Possibly Michael Fulmer in Detroit. That's the guy I would
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keep an eye on. Um. You know, in terms of
other guys beyond Machado, relievers are always always sought after.
Brad Hand in San Diego is is a guy that
you know, Padres are asking high right now. But a
lot of teams Dodgers could use bullpen help, Boston Red
Sox could use bullpen help. Um, you know, Baltimore jumping
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around hopscotching around here. We hear so much about Machado.
Adam Jones is a free agent at the end of
this year. He granted he's thirty two, will be thirty
three in August, but you know he can still bring
it this and and I know as center field skills
aren't what they once were, but you know he's he's
a force offensively, and it would be interesting. The Orioles
are gonna have to rebuild Zach Britton their closer. He
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just came back from the disabled list. Um he's available now.
I think he'll be a trade if he if he
does go, which I think he should closer to July
thirty one, because, as I say, he just came back
from the d L, and you've got clubs are gonna
want to make sure he's healthy and see him pitch
a few times before they make any deals. Scott Miller
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knox.
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I'm Dan Buyers. We're talking Major League Baseball. What about
the surprising NL East, And I think that's what I
We're just going to call it for the entire year
with the Phillies and Braves being on top. Do you
see either of those two teams doing anything prior to
at least July thirty one? You know, the Phillies seem
to be pretty aggressive. I know they were in the
Manna Machadow talks for a while. Um, Phillies, I can see.
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I think both clubs are in a little bit of
a danger zone. And the only reason I say that
is because you're right. They both Atlanta and Philly if
at surprisingly good seasons. And I say dangers because they're
both rebuilding. You don't want to, you know, over estimate
your own club and and and I think both Atlanta
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and Philly are close. But I also think there's a
danger in in in maybe swinging for the fences and
trading away you know, one or two prospects that maybe
you shouldn't because you're tempted to go for it this year. Um.
So from that perspective, I think it should be very
interesting to see what either the fit, well, both the
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Phillies and Braves do. Um. You know, Phillies seem, like
I said, to be more aggressive. Um, but you know,
we'll see. I mean Atlanta earlier in the year they
tried some small potatoes upgrades, you know, like Jose Baptista
after Toronto let him go and see Baptista play third base.
That didn't last long. Um, you know, whether they've got
Camargo there. You hear some lower level names, uh, Mike Mustakis,
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the third baseman in Kansas City, for example. Um, that
that is probably going to be available. You know, you
wonder if Atlanta or somebody might take a flyer on
somebody like him. Scott Miller of the Bleacher Report is
with us here on Fox Sports Radio covers Major League Baseball.
Dan Buyer Jonas Knox in for Doug Gottlieb. So we've
talked about how just to make an NBA parallel. We've
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talked about how the Spurs have never had dysfunction within
their organization. Now all of a sudden they've got it
with Kawhi Leonard. The Cardinals have kind of been the
Spurs of Major League Baseball to where they've always had
a ton of success, they're always relevant, and there's never
really a lot of dysfunction. And now multiple times this
year you've had the incident with Dexter Fowler and the
front office kind of barbing at each other in in
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in the media, and now you've got Jordan Hicks and
Bud Norris. There's apparently a riff there. What is going
on in St. Louis? Yeah, you're right. It's interesting. I
think you know, one reason you're seeing these things come
up is when they're not winning or they're not playing
up to the level that they're accustomed to in St. Louis.
As you said, you never hear about dysfunction St. Louis. Well,
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what's a common denominator? Kind of like San Antonio. All
those years the Cardinals have been winning and winning and winning,
and all of a sudden, now this is their second
or third year in a row where they're not you know,
a factor, or at least, you know, so far, they
could be still this year, but they missed the playoffs
the last couple of years, and so you know, all
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of a sudden, you begin to see tension. You begin
to see guys maybe pressing or feeling the pressure, and
and so you're right. I mean, you know, the veteran
Bud Norris has apparently been going to old school on
on on on the kid Hicks and and you know,
almost you know, rasing him like the way Vedders used
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to hay his rookies. And Mike Matheny, the manager who's
been under starting to be under fire. Yeah, it doesn't
see anything wrong with it, of course, Matheny is an
old school guy. And and uh, as you mentioned in
the front office, Uh, there was some you know some
basically some some public shots at at Dexter Fowler questioning.
You know, Fowler's one of those guys. He's so smooth.
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He glides on the field that if when things aren't
going well, you can say, geez, is he putting out
all dred percent effort? And when things are going well,
it's like, oh, he's Mr Cool. You know, it doesn't
look it looks effortless. And again winning, not winning, playing well,
not playing well. Uh, when when things turn a little bit,
things can go sideways. So it'll be interesting to see
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what happens. As I say, Matheny's under beginning to be
under some heat in St. Louis and um, if they
don't have a strong recovery this year and and and
roll into the playoffs, you can see some moves made.
Scott Miller the Bleacher Report talking Major League Baseball with
us on Fox Sports Radio. Choose which way you want
to take this? Are you shocked that the Red Sox
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are up thirty nine and a half games on the Orioles?
Are you shocked that the Orioles are thirty nine and
a half games back of Boston and the least uh
the ladder dulous. Yeah, going into the season, guys, I
think this is one of those rare baseball years where
when we all look at things in spring training and
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pencil it out, usually you know, things go sideways and
and it's like, hey, not even close to uh, how
we predicted it go. Well in American League has gone
exactly like we predicted it would go, except from that perspective,
the Red Sox, the Yankees in the Astros, I thought
spring training, and I know I wasn't along. A lot
of us thought those were going to be the superpower
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teams and they are. Um, so I'm not surprised that
Boston is doing what they're doing. But yeah, you can't
to look as we sit here on July, we haven't
even made it to the All Star Game yet, and
for a team to be whatever it is, thirty eight
and a half games out of thirty nine, it is
absolutely humiliating for the Orioles. And also, um, you know,
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a number as many bad teams as are in baseball
as we speak, you know, between either teams just under
achieving or teams that are tanking. Um, there's a competitive
balance issue right now in the game that baseball better
hope is short term and not long term. Uh, Scott,
before we let you go, because we're up against it here,
but we want to find out about You've got a
book that's getting rave reviews. Um. A lot of players
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have reached out and commented on it, John Lester among
some of them, with Bob Tewksbury, and it talks about
just the mental approach to the game. Explain where we
can get ahold of the book and just sort of
what what got you started starting to think about putting
something like this together. Yeah, I appreciate you saying that
to answer your first question. As as they say, it's
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available at fine bookstores everywhere, as as you said by
Bob Tewksbury, and I uh, Barnes and Noble, whatever your
favorite bookstores are, it should be on the shelves now.
Also Amazon dot Com online at your favorite places. UM.
Tooksberry is the second in the second season and metal
skills coach for the San Francisco Giants after twelve seasons
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of serving the same position with the Boston Red Sox,
and you know, it's an interesting subject. He reached out
to me a couple of years ago and via email,
I've known twos for a while, said, would you have
interested in writing a book? And knowing Bob is really
good at what he does, he's really well respected, and
I'm interested in the subject. I think it's it's it
pertains not just a baseball but you know, as Bob says,
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this book obviously is a baseball book, but it's more
mental skills book with a baseball narrative. You know, some
of the stuff in there that the Tooks teaches breathing, imagery, visualization.
You know, if you're if you're out on the golf course,
you can you can apply it, if you're in your
office trying to work with co workers, you can apply
it everyday life. In other words, there's a lot of
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what we think our life lessons. It was a fun
project to work on. Live of great baseball stories in
there from both when Twoksbury played in the eighties and
nineties and also some current stuff. You know, he John
Lester was great. You mentioned he tweeted uh and sent
a nice endorsement out. Um, he's one of the guys
I that that is a key player in the book
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because Lester does all kinds of things to sharpen his
mental skills. He worked with Tewksbury for many years and
he really respects Bob and um, yeah, so it's been
a fun project. And like I said, I think, you know,
there's a lot of lessons we all can can achieve that,
you know, basically, a positive result never comes from a
negative thought, as one of the thing themes in the book.
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And you know, God knows how all of us in
our daily lives, how many negative thoughts come at us,
and we gotta keep batting him away. The title of
the book, Mental and All Star Player Turn Mental Skills
Coach reveals the hidden game of baseball. Co author Scott Miller,
of course, covering the MLB for the Bleacher Report. We
appreciate it, Scott, enjoy the All Star break and we'll
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do it again soon. Sounds good. I thank you,
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that and a whole lot more on this Friday the
thirteen Radio. Yeah, we may have something up our sleeve,
just like those San Antonio Spurs Jonas As the Kauai
letter trade talks continue to go on in the NBA,
But don't look at the Los Angeles Lakers right now
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as a destination for Kauai Leonard report saying that the
Lakers are in no hurry to make a move for
Kauai Letterard. So a new team has vaulted to the
top of the Kauai Letard sweepstakes. Not the Lakers, not
the Celtics, not the seventies sixers. Your Eastern Conference regular
season champion Toronto Raptors are the top the betting odds
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les destination. I got news for you. If bag Dad
had an NBA team, they trade him to Bagdad. Instead,
the Spurs are not going to to gift him anything.
They're going to make this as difficult as possible. And
I'm sorry for everybody that wants to defend Kawhi Leonard
and Kawhi Leonards people in his camp. You guys butchered this.
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This is your problem. Now, it's your fault, and you
just gotta deal with the repercussions. Looking at the situation
with the Spurs, we have heard reports that they wanted
brandon Ingram from the Lakers. Don't know what the Celtics
would give them, but likely they would want Jalen Brown
as part of the package. If they're just some of
the names that were popped up. Dario Sharich part of
the Sixers deal plus first round picks was a big
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thing with this Toronto Raptors talk. It's interesting, Jonas to
hear it centator around DeMar Derozen because he is thought
to be the top player on the Toronto Raptors but
coming off of an awful playoff run. So if you
look at the pieces around and you look at the
accomplished players, brandon Ingram Uh, Jalen Brown, yeah, up and
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coming player, but DeMar Derozen has the most accomplishments, at
least to his resume of being an All Star than
any of those players. And at least if you're the
San Antonio Spurs, you would be getting a I don't
want to say, an All Star and annual All Star,
maybe a little difficult to crack in the West, but
a much better talent then you would get in the
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other deals with Boston and the Lakers, and you've got
control for a couple of years because he signed a
big term deal in in Toronto, and I love the
first of all, this is my favorite story in sports.
We can talk all we want about a Wimbledon set
that lasted three days, and that's fine if you want
to go, waste your time with that. Waste your time
with that. The Kawuhi Leonard Spurs dynamic is the most
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interesting thing in sports. Last year it was the Redskins
and Scott mccluen and that whole fiasco. This is a
disaster like that. You could not find two sides that
want nothing to do with each other more than the
Spurs and Kauai Leonard. And then you've got us a
tryouts or whatever coming up soon where Popovich is going
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to be a part of. Reportedly Kawhi Leonard is going
to be a part of This is fantastic and the
idea that not only will the Spurs not play Kate
to Kauai Leonard and put him in l A, They'll
trade for another l A Native and send him to
Toronto to get back that l A Native, just to
dangle the whole l A dynamic around with Kauai. I
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think it's fantastic. I love it. I think the Spurs
are handling it perfectly up until the point where it's
getting too late and you need to get something back
for him. Well, it's let's start with the point that
you bring up. This is good on both sides of
the equation. This isn't just a team letting a player
go like when Paul George and this is I think
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there there are parallels to take when you have this
Kawhi Leonard situation and the Paul George situation when you
put Toronto in the mixed jonas. Because the deal to
Oklahoma City, now it's worked out really well for the
Thunder that Paul George has committed there. But there was
a lot of thought around the league that Kevin Pritcher
dealt him to Oklahoma City because he felt it was
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a place where a they could get some good players
in return, but be it was a destination that he
wouldn't want to be long term, and there were others
maybe could have dealt him to the Lakers. Maybe he
could have dealt him in a three team deal to
the Cavaliers, which was one of the trades that was
out there that he ended up backing out of. The
Denver Cleveland Pacers deal Kevin Pritcher did that would have
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sent Paul George to Cleveland, so he ends up sending
him to Oklahoma City instead. No offense to Toronto. But
the fact of the matter is, I don't think the
Raptors and that organization in that city would be on
a top five list of destinations for Kawhi Leonard. I'm
sure if it would make the top fifteen in destinations
for Kawhi Leonard since Toronto was a long way from
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southern California. So this has the essence to me of
a little let's stick it to him and send them
to Toronto where we can also get a good player
in return. And there's a lot of ramifications on the
on the Raptors side of things as well. But this
San Antonio side of things reaks a lot of what
the Pacers did last year with Paul George. Yeah, and
there are some people that say, well, Toronto is a
great city, and maybe he goes there and he falls
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in love with it, and you take a chance that
you know he's not gonna be there long term, and
that's fine and all. But when when your camp comes
out and they say, will only go to this team
and that's the only way it's gonna be, and you're
dealing with an organization that wants nothing more than to
not help out somebody inside their conference who they've had
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a rivalry with in the past, then you you shoot
yourself in the foot right off the bat. At least,
Kyrie Irving a year ago said I'm willing to go
to X amount of teams. It didn't mean he was
really willing to go an X amount of teams or
stay there long term, but he gave you options. He
gave you the idea that there is something else that
would be available or possible should you find a better deal.
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Kawhi Leonards camp wanted to play hardball, and they wanted
to do it a year early. You have no control
in this, like at least at least if you want
out and you want completely away from the situation and
you want out that badly, you figure out a way
to make it work. You you'll find an exit strategy
that's going to get it done faster. Now you're in limbo.
They're floating out Toronto. There's been other teams that have
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floated out there, none of which are the l a Lakers.
I'm sorry you set yourself self up for failure the
second you came out and said only the Lakers. And
that's it. Isn't this why you put more than two
things on your Christmas list? Because you because you leave
it up to chance if you don't put seven or
eight things. That's the thing is like, Okay, yes I
love a box of baseball cards when you're a kid. Yes,
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I would love love that jersey of my favorite player.
But you can't just have those two because you're also
likely going to get more gifts, and then you're leaving
it up to chance to everybody else. That's what kai
letard when he's just saying he'd like to go to
Los Angeles, preferably the Lakers. Okay, you put two things
on your Christmas list. Now if those two things don't happen,
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you're just leaving it up the chance. He could have
done reverse psychology and said, I want to go to Atlanta, Orlando,
in Memphis, you keep me the hell away from l
a place I do not want to go anywhere near
Van Nuye. I don't want anything to do with it.
That's what Kawhi Leonard could have done. But no, he's
limited as options and from the Toronto side of things
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that Jonas, I think this is almost as intriguing with
the San Antonio Spurs because so much of the conversation
over the last week or so, the last couple of
weeks since free agency started as how do you compete
with the Golden State Warriors? And if the Raptors were
to do this deal in essence, I would say that
it may not look like they're competing, but I think
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it would say we are compe eating because we realize
what we have in our in our current situation isn't
enough to beat them. We couldn't beat a one man
show in Lebron James in Cleveland to make it to
the NBA Finals. There is no way that we are
going to be able to to move past that. You
said it yourself the Raptors. The Raptors took their shot
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and maxed out in their in their Surgeonboca deals. You've
talked about it a lot. This would allow them if
Kawhi Leonard came aboard, and even if you left after
a year of free agency, it would get them out
of the DeMar DeRos in business where he's got the
couple of years left on his contract, as he said
in with the Raptors, knowing that your ceiling is only
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so high, maybe even a reboot of all of this
is what's best for the organization. So I look at
it as the Raptors situation. You bring in Kauhai Leonard,
you're better for next season if if Kauai Leonard ends
up playing, and now you don't have DeMar de Rosen
sticking around for a couple of years at that twenty
seven million dollars, you can opt out after. But I
look at it on the Raptors position of hey, why
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not now if the East is so much for the taking,
I mean, Lebron's gone, the Sixes are still trying to
find their way. The Celtics are are welcoming Kyrie and
Gordon Hayward off of injuries. Why not go take a chance?
I think for the Raptors, I think this would be
a huge, huge move to hit restart and restart that
franchise and do it in a way that really doesn't
hurt a lot of people's feelings. Now we've talked about
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it'll how it will benefit the Toronto Raptors, We've talked
about how it would benefit the San Antonio Spurs, We've
talked about how it would benefit Kawhi Leonard, and we've
talked about how it would benefit to mar de Rozen.
There is one entity here, Dan, that we need to
talk about what would benefit them the most. You know who?
That is maybe the most important that you and I Dan,
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because we got a lot of time to fill on
weekend radio. Here. You and I do shows on the weekend,
and let me tell you something, the best thing for
our business is that Kawhi Leonard stays with the Spurs.
Because if I'm gonna watch a boat sink, I want
to watch it in slow motion. I want to see
every window o break, I want to see people jumping off,
I want to see everything that comes along with it.
I don't want to sped up. We need this to
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continue on in all the way through to this summer.
Get us through us some of the boring training camp
stories like oh my god, two teammates fought in an
NFL training camp. Wow, I've never seen that before. Unbelievable.
Get us through all that, get us through baseball. We
need this story to continue. Please stay with the San
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insider Olden Polemies joins us here on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Hey,
Old and how you doing today? I'm good? How we are?
We are doing great? And well it's it's it's a Friday,
so we're doing great. We're doing remarkably well because Kauai
Leonard is in the news once again with a reported
deal or or an option to go to the Toronto Raptors.
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According to some sports books out there is the Spurs
maybe dealing the forward on the On the just overall
look of this deal, how would you view Kawhi Leonard
going to the Toronto Raptors as a former player With
everything that's going on behind the scenes of the Lakers
talk and the Sixers and Celtics talk, how would you
view it if Kawhi Leonard ended up with the Raptors. Well,
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it will be based on what Toronto has to give up.
But I would say it's similar to Lebron being in
the East. Now, Um, you know, they would just dominate
because Kauai is one of the best players we have
in this lead and so to me, he just makes
you know, a team that had to you know, the
best way in the East that much better. But again
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it's based on do they have to give even if
they have to give up the Rose and I think
they still the team in the East with Kawai lear
Hey old and if you were still playing, what would
be the worst team to get traded too? If you
had a couple of teams that you would say, oh please, Lord,
don't trade me there, whether it be location or just
roster the wrong guy. You know, you guys always asked
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the wrong guy those kind of questions. I was the
guy that I don't care if I was in timbug too, man,
as long as I'm playing and I'm getting paid, I'm happy.
Come on, come on, don't there's gonna be team mean, hey,
I'm gonna trying to make the teams. I'm on better.
You know, I had the pressure of, you know, help me.
Two teams make the playoffs for the first time in
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the history, which was the l A Clippers in the
South American So I kind of bring good luck a
little bit, holding folies join, I guess here on Fox
Sports Radio, what would it say about the Raptors though,
if they were to deal to mar De Rosen for
Kauai Leonard, I'm just the guarantee that Kauai would be
there for one season. Um that they're trying to win.
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They're trying to win right now. They're trying to get
into the finals. And also they know what they have
and the Marda Rosen, and they know what they're gonna
get with Kawai Land. It to me, the Martha Rosen
has a shelf life and it's untossed. But you know,
we know how far we can get with him. But
Kauai is a champion, and so we want to experience that.
You know, if I'm the you know, massaigah Jeny, I'm
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saying myself, Okay, I want to experience the finals with
the Kawai Land and I'm not gonna get there with
the model Rose. And he's proven you know that he
has he has limitations and it's unfortunate, but that's just
how it is. Some guys are meant for the moment
and some aren't. Olden polonies with this yere on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Fox Sports Radio, NBA insider, longtime veteran
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of the league. Do you put any not that it
has to be anybody's fault, but if you were to
say the demise of the Kawhi Leonard san Antonio Spur relationship,
who do you put the blame on as to why
the fell apart so fast? That's a great question. It
has to go in in order. Basically, it was san
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Antonio's problem. I mean, it was san Antonio's fault in
the beginning, you know, because they questioned this manhood and
everything else. And then when Kauai never spoke a word
and then became a Kauai problem, and Kauai became the scapegoat.
And so right now that's where we at. You know,
it started out that you know, it was santanis fault
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and how they handled everything, but na, it's Kauai's fault
and how he's handling everything. You know, be professional, that's
the whole thing. Be a professional. So this is a profession.
Handled the thing the right way. You don't have you know,
people speaking for you. You you have a good relationship
with Pop, you know, regardless of what the media is saying,
Oh what we perceived, you guys had a good enough,
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you know relationship because he gave you an opportunity, so
you're own him that much and vice versus. So they
should have sat down as men and hashed it out
and figure out something. Ain't gotten it done. Now it's
deteriorated to this point and it's just getting worse and worse.
And that's why he has to be traded. There's no way,
you know, like I always say, my favorite day, you
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can't put the doodle back in the Hold Hold NBA
vet joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's the
The Gottlieb Show. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer in
for Doug One. More on this Kauai thing, and and
and and I know it's a little dated, but did
you have any problems with what Mono Ginobil or Tony
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Parker said during the season about Kauai. No, I didn't.
I mean that's your teammates, those of your dads you
grew up with. Basically, you know, they should be able
to come to you and question It's like, hey, what's
going on? Is it's something serious? Is it not serious?
Are you mad at the organizations? What's going on? They've
they've built enough cachet to it. They should have been
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able to do that. And just like Kauai should have
been able to go to Tony and say, hey, Tony, um,
you're hurt right now? What's going on? Yeah, I don't
question your teammates, you know, because those guys that come on,
we know that it's guy that faked the flunk. On injuries,
you know, there's being hurt and then there's an injury,
and sometimes you know, guys don't know which one's lives.
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And so again, this organization has always been able to
protect everything, and now we're seeing everything fall apart. It's
I've never seen anything like this. Yeah, I agree with you,
because I also looked at it that Genobil has been
wondering for the last couple of years if he was
going to come back. We obviously know Tony Parker's no
longer in San Antonio anymore, so his time at the
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time was running out with the Spurs. Just their statue
and what they've accomplished and how long they've been there,
I thought gave them reason to say whatever they wanted.
Considering the situation for two guys who are about to
ride off into the sunset with an organization that they
spent their entire career with, I didn't find anything wrong either,
So I was just curious on your take on that.
And then and then definitely, and they're doing the thing
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that they've never done, rebuild, you know, they Kyle Anderson
goa is gonna be done before rebuild now old and
we hear a lot about olden polonies with us here
on Fox Sports Radio. We hear a lot about, you know,
players want to go to l A and it's it's
all about, you know, the market size and this and that,
and so Lebron James chose the Lakers, you being somebody,
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and you mentioned it earlier being a member of the
Clippers during your time in the NBA. Why why have
the Clippers still not been able to attract big time
free agents? They've had a better run than the Lakers recently,
they've play in the same building. What is it about
the Clippers that still appears to be a turn off
for free agents. Well, it's just a little bit of everything.
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The fact that you know, they've never won you know, yeah,
they've won some a few games here and there, but
you know, they've never won a championship. They've never gotten
to the finals, they've never gone to the Western Compass finals.
So it's like that's a knock and players don't want that.
You know, we're all Cruisis of the moment and we
want what hot right now. So, you know, they want
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to be with the Warriors, they want to be around Lebron,
they want to be on those you know, flashy teams,
you know, and it makes it tough for them to
get guys unless they draft them or something. Happened, like
with Chris Paul. You know, we ended up getting Chris Paul.
But it's it's still tough, you know, it's tough to
get mocky guys. But I do believe that Kauai with
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him saying that he wants to be in l a
he never said it was the lakerst I could see
him ending up with the Clippers. Olden Polonies joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's join us Knocks. I'm
Dan buyer. Of course, Olden spent fifteen years in the association.
Last one for me. There's a report Carmelo Anthony in
the Houston Rockets could be a match that the Rockets
are the front runners to land the forward once he
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gets out of Oklahoma City. Do you see that being
a match in Houston? If it happens, it's gonna have
to be because he's not a match anywhere else, and
so that's the thing for him. Unless he's able to say, hey,
I willing to come up the bench, I'm willing to
put my ego aside. He's gonna go the way of
Alan Iverson, and it's unfortunate for him. You know, he
did his thing when he was playing, but you're not
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the same player anymore. I think, you know, with um Houston,
he has the relationship with D'Antoni, and I don't know
if that's gonna be a good thing all bad. I
think D'Antoni basically said, you know, putting all that behind me.
So we'll see. But again, you gotta have a lot
of office supply power. But where's your defense coming from.
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So it's a tough situation. If I was in I
would go to Miami. Miami can would stand that, you know,
they can give him more minutes and you know, more
playing time, but and they have defense, So that would
be the better situation. But Houston, we'll see, I guess.
Find him on Twitter at Olden Polities one fifteen year
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com and within the I Heart Radio app. DeMarco Murray
retired from the NFL today after seven years in the
National Football League. Murray has called that quits, was doing
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some TV recently and now has announced that maybe that'll
be his next venture because playing is no more good
for him. Man guy gets out by thirty years old.
Running backs take a pounding in the league. He made
a little bit of scratch while he was there. I
didn't play. I think he played one year on a
franchise tag if I'm not mistaken or or that was
the possibility. And then he ended up signing a big
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time deal. Um, but he did make He made a
little bit of money, so he got out by age thirty. UM.
I would love to see more guys play the Sean
Alexander route where I think Sean Alexander got paid three
times in his career as a running back, which was
pretty impressive. Um, but good for him. Well, this, you know,
this is the situation that Levan Bell needs to look
at because DeMarco Murray had that rookie contract with the Cowboys,
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ended up being a free agent after through the year
he led the NFL and rushing with over eighteen hundred
yards and then signed that huge deal forty two million
dollars for five years with the Philadelphia Eagles. What's interesting
in all of this DeMarco Murray in that forty two
million dollar contract. In addition to the money that he
made during his rookie on his rookie deal, which wasn't
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a whole lot under a million dollars in those first
couple of years, DeMarco Murray ended up making a total
of twenty five point seven million dollars in his entire career.
And the reason that number is unique and it's a
great number, and I think a lot of people would
love to take twenty five point seven million dollars in
their career is that's less than what levy On Bell
is making last year and this year. If he ends up,
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you know, playing under the franchise tag for fourteen and
a half million dollars, he would have been playing for
twenty six million dollars over a two year span. So
it looks like Jonas on the outside that Levian Bell
has really played things the right way. But when you
take a step back and you look at how NFL
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money goes and what Levian Bell had with him on
the table, if you're a young running back, and I
know DeMarco Murray's situation is is one that you could follow.
But what he needs to realize is that you've got
to take the money when you can. Levian Bell is
going to be twenty seven years old in February, so
he will play next year at twenty six years old.
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If he would have taken that deal with the Steelers,
could have made forty two million dollars in the first
three years, thirty million in the first two. I know
that's a lot of numbers, but the point is he
would have made more in those two years than he
has under the franchise tag. He then could have hit
free agency again before he's thirty years old and still
have the value of a running back in the National
Football League. It's a short career. We've known that, but
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I think DeMarco Murray's tail is, hey, take the money
when you can get it, because you never know when
it's gonna come to an end. And for DeMarco Murray,
it came just three years after he signed a huge deal.
And this has picked up a lot of talk in
the past cup the weeks because tis this season. Every
time the NBA starts free agency and a bunch of
guys get paid, or you look at mediocre players and
you see the contracts you get paid, NFL players start
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chirping about, oh, well, we're not happy about our we
need guaranteed money. We need guaranteed contracts. And the fact
of the matter is in the NFL, if you want
guaranteed contracts as it stands right now, before they the
new CBA comes out and they determine that you've got
to take it on short term deals. So the idea
that franchise tags are a bad thing, yeah, they're a
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bad thing if you look at it from well, it
doesn't it doesn't give me security beyond that point. But
we've seen players utilize the franchise tag and be smart
with it. Guys like Kirk Cousins, who is really smart
with it. He's he's in rarefied air. But you've also
seen guys like al Sehan Jeffrey who has been very
really smart with it. The fact that people, I think
would look at this and go and you and I
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agree that there was an offer on the table that
seems like it made a lot of sense. He's gonna
end up losing money the first couple of years with Pittsburgh.
There's also a segment of the population of NFL fans
that think, man, Steelers, what are you doing? Why don't
you give this guy? Sign them already? Get him done,
get the contract done. They gave him a damn good offer.
If it's what was reported, it was a damn good offer.
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DeMarco Murray was smart within and that he got a
contract that he felt was was deserving of after his
big year in Dallas, and he got it. He made
his coin and he got out with it. If Levian Bell,
it's a gamble. But if he does see the end
of this franchise run in Pittsburgh and then gets another
big time contract afterwards, he's going to get paid a lot.
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But it comes with a caveat what is Levian Bell
dealt with his entire career, either off field issues, injuries
like like all of that is it comes to and
I just think at a certain point Levian Bell looked
at this and said, well, I want to get paid
like this guy, this guy, and this guy without factoring
in all of what comes with why those guys got
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paid and why a team would be hesitant to pay you.
And he didn't do that to Marco Murray didn't have
off the field issues. You know, he got a contract
that was that that was deserving of, had no off
the field issues, and he got paid and now he's
out of the league at thirty. If Levian Bell is
looking at this from a Kirk Cousins standpoint. I'll be
fascinated to see if he gets through healthy and without
any issues, because then it's going to pay off. But
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as it stands right now, he lost money. The Kirk
Cousins at the quarterback position is the only position in
the National Football League that I think that you can
do that because it's the only position that will give
you more money as you get older, and and it's
it's so unique. You want you want your veteran quarterback
to stick around, Yes, you want him to it. At
every other position. Heck, we're sitting there looking at when
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does he turn thirty? When does he turn thirty? To
Marco Murray turned thirty. You just can't do that. And
that's why, like Levian Bell, it seems like it's great
playing for fourteen million dollars and playing for twelve million
dollars and and he wants seventeen million dollars annually. But
if he gets if he gets that contract, he's already
short four million dollars from from what he could have
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gotten in the long term deal. That's tough to make up.
And if you're Levian Bell, think about this. If you
had another good season this year, Jonas, and it's now
the next offseason he's a free agent, would get another
franchise take I know what wouldn't be the seventeen million dollars,
but you have that four million dollar becushion to work with,
you've got to take. You've got to take your money
and do that short term deal, whether it be a
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three year deal or or some something something to that effect,
something that David Johnson probably wants to look at for
Arizona because it may seem like you're really playing it
well with the other team. It only happens. I think
if you're a quarterback, I just don't see it working
out for a young running back. And you look at
the way that it played out with the Marco Murray.
He went to Tennessee, had almost a thirteen hundred yards season,
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and the Titans were like, Okay, well we're gonna give
Derrick Henry some more carries the next year. And now
two years removed from that, two seasons removed from that
almost hundred yards season, he's out of the league. I
think NFL players, if they really want this, If if
Levian Bell went to the Pittsburgh Steelers right now, and
he said, hey, how about two years, thirty million guaranteed?
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Would the Steelers take that deal? If you're Levy on Bell,
why the hell wouldn't you either. I mean, that's guaranteed money,
and if you get through it, you've got thirty million
dollars and you could potentially become a free agent again afterwards.
All Sean Jeffrey did it. He took a nine million
dollar deal after he was on a franchise tag the
year before. So in essence, he made twenty three million
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dollars because he trusted himself on a short term deal
that he was going to get paid and ended up happening.
They didn't see the end of the season before they
reapped him for four more years. I just think if
NFL players really want this money, they have got to
do it in a in short term installments. Kirk Cousins
did it. I don't know that he could get a
three year commitment from the Pittsburgh Steelers, but if he should,
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he'd be walked into their office and said two years,
thirty million dollars guaranteed, I'm yours. The Steelers would get
him in the prime of his career. They'd be out
of it afterwards. You could throw away the franchise tag.
You don't have to give him the franchise tag designation
this year, and you could be done with it in
two years. For a guy who's got off the field issues,
but he's playing hardball wanting like a five year, guaranteed contract,
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big money, they're not going to do it. It's not happening.
Seventeen million dollars annually is reportedly what Levy on Bell
wants for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and that's just not going
to happen. And and and if he wants to make
the fifteen over the you know, a piece over the two,
as you mentioned, that's something you've got to take. You've
got to take the guaranteed money when you can when
you're in NFL running back. And DeMarco Murray is a
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perfect example. It's not that DeMarco Murray played it wrong.
DeMarco Murray played on his rookie contract, hit free agency
when his did when he did, and all of a sudden,
now he's out of the league after three years. That's
that is now Jonas the lifeline. That is the typical
career of an NFL running back who has made it.
Let not let alone somebody who hasn't made it. But
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that would be considered a good career. And that's why
it's so important to take that money, because DeMarco Moorey
took that money when he did ended up making a
majority of his money from that, even though it was
just an am using air quotes seven million dollars. Be
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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now to Talk Baseball is a national columnist for Bleacher
Report and also worked on a new book with former
Major League Picture and Mental Skills coach Bob Tewksberry. Former
picture in the Big League, Scott Miller joins us year
on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Scott, thanks so much for
taking the time today. Hey guys, my pleasure. Exciting time
of your trade deadline coming up, all Star Game coming off,
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all kinds of good stuff. Yeah, and l a Is
is pumped as well because the Dodgers have made it
to the top of the division, taking control of the
n L West. Last night, I'll be U by a
half game over the Diamondbacks. But the Dodgers are actually
in first place in here in southern California, it is
a big deal. So my question to you, Scott is,
now that they are in first place and have been
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in the thick of it lately, how active do you
see the Dodgers being as the trade deadline comes up
in a couple of weeks. Oh, I think they'll they'll
be active. The question is are they going to be
active on a marquee player level or on a role
player supporting player type of level. Um. You know, they've
been linked to Manny Machado forever since seemingly, I mean
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since Corey Seeger went down with the bad elbow and
in needing Tommy John surgery. Um, the Dodgers absolutely are
talking to the Orioles and that that maybe we'll see
that happen. I tend to believe Machado will go to
Milwaukee or New York simply because the Dodgers history, um,
you know, under their current baseball operations ares which has been,
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by the way, a very successful history, getting back to
the World Series last year for the first time since nine. Um,
but they don't fork over their best prospects. You know,
we didn't we saw that last year. They went't got
you Darvish because he cost less in prospects than Justin
Berlander did a few years back. Cole Hamilts they had
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a shot at they bypassed him. So I don't know
that they're going to give up some, you know, grade
A level prospects for Manny Machado. I think I kindn't
think they need to add to their pitching depth. Um,
not real sexy starting pitchers out there available right now,
but whether it's a starter, a bullpen guy, um, I
believe that's the way they'll go. But you know they
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it's early yet in the trade deadline season, so we'll
see what develops. He is. Scott Millery covers uh MLB
for the Bleacher Report with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Scott,
Manny Machado is the big name. He's the one that
everybody's been talking about. Who are a couple of names
out there that maybe haven't gotten as much buzz that
would be have a real impact on a team down
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the stretch that could be dealt at the deadline. Well,
you know, I start with starting pitching because that that's
what everybody wants. And as I said, it's it's a
little bit of a down year. I mean, Cole Hamilets
of Texas is out there. He's got no trade power,
so he can kind of direct where he where he
winds up. But um, you know, Cole Hamils is not
peak Cole Hamils. But and he hasn't been throwing particularly
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well lately, but you know he's been around the October battles.
He's he's not gonna fade from the spotlight in October.
You you kind of know with a vetteran what you're getting. Um,
you know, he would add depth to somebody's rotation. Uh
j A happ in Toronto is another starter that is available.
Possibly Michael Fulmer in Detroit. That's the guy I would
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keep an eye on. Um. You know, in terms of
other guys beyond Machado, relievers are always always sought after.
Brad Hand in San Diego is is a guy that
you know, Padres are asking high right now. But a
lot of teams Dodgers could use bullpen help, Boston Red
Sox could use bullpen help. Um, you know, Baltimore jumping
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around hopscotching around here. We hear so much about Machado.
Adam Jones is a free agent at the end of
this year. He granted he's thirty two, will be thirty
three in August, but you know he can still bring
it this and and I know as center field skills
aren't what they once were, but you know he's he's
a force offensively, and it would be interesting. The Orioles
are gonna have to rebuild Zach Britton their closer. He
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just came back from the disabled list. Um he's available now.
I think he'll be a trade if he if he
does go, which I think he should closer to July
thirty one, because, as I say, he just came back
from the d L, and you've got clubs are gonna
want to make sure he's healthy and see him pitch
a few times before they make any deals. Scott Miller
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knox.
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I'm Dan Buyers. We're talking Major League Baseball. What about
the surprising NL East, And I think that's what I
We're just going to call it for the entire year
with the Phillies and Braves being on top. Do you
see either of those two teams doing anything prior to
at least July thirty one? You know, the Phillies seem
to be pretty aggressive. I know they were in the
Manna Machadow talks for a while. Um, Phillies, I can see.
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I think both clubs are in a little bit of
a danger zone. And the only reason I say that
is because you're right. They both Atlanta and Philly if
at surprisingly good seasons. And I say dangers because they're
both rebuilding. You don't want to, you know, over estimate
your own club and and and I think both Atlanta
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and Philly are close. But I also think there's a
danger in in in maybe swinging for the fences and
trading away you know, one or two prospects that maybe
you shouldn't because you're tempted to go for it this year. Um.
So from that perspective, I think it should be very
interesting to see what either the fit, well, both the
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Phillies and Braves do. Um. You know, Phillies seem, like
I said, to be more aggressive. Um, but you know,
we'll see. I mean Atlanta earlier in the year they
tried some small potatoes upgrades, you know, like Jose Baptista
after Toronto let him go and see Baptista play third base.
That didn't last long. Um, you know, whether they've got
Camargo there. You hear some lower level names, uh, Mike Mustakis,
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the third baseman in Kansas City, for example. Um, that
that is probably going to be available. You know, you
wonder if Atlanta or somebody might take a flyer on
somebody like him. Scott Miller of the Bleacher Report is
with us here on Fox Sports Radio covers Major League Baseball.
Dan Buyer Jonas Knox in for Doug Gottlieb. So we've
talked about how just to make an NBA parallel. We've
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talked about how the Spurs have never had dysfunction within
their organization. Now all of a sudden they've got it
with Kawhi Leonard. The Cardinals have kind of been the
Spurs of Major League Baseball to where they've always had
a ton of success, they're always relevant, and there's never
really a lot of dysfunction. And now multiple times this
year you've had the incident with Dexter Fowler and the
front office kind of barbing at each other in in
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in the media, and now you've got Jordan Hicks and
Bud Norris. There's apparently a riff there. What is going
on in St. Louis? Yeah, you're right. It's interesting. I
think you know, one reason you're seeing these things come
up is when they're not winning or they're not playing
up to the level that they're accustomed to in St. Louis.
As you said, you never hear about dysfunction St. Louis. Well,
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what's a common denominator? Kind of like San Antonio. All
those years the Cardinals have been winning and winning and winning,
and all of a sudden, now this is their second
or third year in a row where they're not you know,
a factor, or at least, you know, so far, they
could be still this year, but they missed the playoffs
the last couple of years, and so you know, all
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of a sudden, you begin to see tension. You begin
to see guys maybe pressing or feeling the pressure, and
and so you're right. I mean, you know, the veteran
Bud Norris has apparently been going to old school on
on on on the kid Hicks and and you know,
almost you know, rasing him like the way Vedders used
(36:58):
to hay his rookies. And Mike Matheny, the manager who's
been under starting to be under fire. Yeah, it doesn't
see anything wrong with it, of course, Matheny is an
old school guy. And and uh, as you mentioned in
the front office, Uh, there was some you know some
basically some some public shots at at Dexter Fowler questioning.
You know, Fowler's one of those guys. He's so smooth.
(37:20):
He glides on the field that if when things aren't
going well, you can say, geez, is he putting out
all dred percent effort? And when things are going well,
it's like, oh, he's Mr Cool. You know, it doesn't
look it looks effortless. And again winning, not winning, playing well,
not playing well. Uh, when when things turn a little bit,
things can go sideways. So it'll be interesting to see
(37:41):
what happens. As I say, Matheny's under beginning to be
under some heat in St. Louis and um, if they
don't have a strong recovery this year and and and
roll into the playoffs, you can see some moves made.
Scott Miller the Bleacher Report talking Major League Baseball with
us on Fox Sports Radio. Choose which way you want
to take this? Are you shocked that the Red Sox
(38:03):
are up thirty nine and a half games on the Orioles?
Are you shocked that the Orioles are thirty nine and
a half games back of Boston and the least uh
the ladder dulous. Yeah, going into the season, guys, I
think this is one of those rare baseball years where
when we all look at things in spring training and
(38:24):
pencil it out, usually you know, things go sideways and
and it's like, hey, not even close to uh, how
we predicted it go. Well in American League has gone
exactly like we predicted it would go, except from that perspective,
the Red Sox, the Yankees in the Astros, I thought
spring training, and I know I wasn't along. A lot
of us thought those were going to be the superpower
(38:45):
teams and they are. Um, so I'm not surprised that
Boston is doing what they're doing. But yeah, you can't
to look as we sit here on July, we haven't
even made it to the All Star Game yet, and
for a team to be whatever it is, thirty eight
and a half games out of thirty nine, it is
absolutely humiliating for the Orioles. And also, um, you know,
(39:08):
a number as many bad teams as are in baseball
as we speak, you know, between either teams just under
achieving or teams that are tanking. Um, there's a competitive
balance issue right now in the game that baseball better
hope is short term and not long term. Uh, Scott,
before we let you go, because we're up against it here,
but we want to find out about You've got a
book that's getting rave reviews. Um. A lot of players
(39:31):
have reached out and commented on it, John Lester among
some of them, with Bob Tewksbury, and it talks about
just the mental approach to the game. Explain where we
can get ahold of the book and just sort of
what what got you started starting to think about putting
something like this together. Yeah, I appreciate you saying that
to answer your first question. As as they say, it's
(39:51):
available at fine bookstores everywhere, as as you said by
Bob Tewksbury, and I uh, Barnes and Noble, whatever your
favorite bookstores are, it should be on the shelves now.
Also Amazon dot Com online at your favorite places. UM.
Tooksberry is the second in the second season and metal
skills coach for the San Francisco Giants after twelve seasons
(40:12):
of serving the same position with the Boston Red Sox,
and you know, it's an interesting subject. He reached out
to me a couple of years ago and via email,
I've known twos for a while, said, would you have
interested in writing a book? And knowing Bob is really
good at what he does, he's really well respected, and
I'm interested in the subject. I think it's it's it
pertains not just a baseball but you know, as Bob says,
(40:35):
this book obviously is a baseball book, but it's more
mental skills book with a baseball narrative. You know, some
of the stuff in there that the Tooks teaches breathing, imagery, visualization.
You know, if you're if you're out on the golf course,
you can you can apply it, if you're in your
office trying to work with co workers, you can apply
it everyday life. In other words, there's a lot of
(40:56):
what we think our life lessons. It was a fun
project to work on. Live of great baseball stories in
there from both when Twoksbury played in the eighties and
nineties and also some current stuff. You know, he John
Lester was great. You mentioned he tweeted uh and sent
a nice endorsement out. Um, he's one of the guys
I that that is a key player in the book
(41:16):
because Lester does all kinds of things to sharpen his
mental skills. He worked with Tewksbury for many years and
he really respects Bob and um, yeah, so it's been
a fun project. And like I said, I think, you know,
there's a lot of lessons we all can can achieve that,
you know, basically, a positive result never comes from a
negative thought, as one of the thing themes in the book.
(41:38):
And you know, God knows how all of us in
our daily lives, how many negative thoughts come at us,
and we gotta keep batting him away. The title of
the book, Mental and All Star Player Turn Mental Skills
Coach reveals the hidden game of baseball. Co author Scott Miller,
of course, covering the MLB for the Bleacher Report. We
appreciate it, Scott, enjoy the All Star break and we'll
(41:58):
do it again soon. Sounds good. I thank you,
Host
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