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September 22, 2025 • 37 mins

On this edition of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most about the weekend. Doug previews the Monday Night Football game. Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:22):
YouTube channel. How are you welcome in Hope. You had
a great weekend The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live sort
of by coastal. I mean, I'm on the coast of Wisconsin,
but they're on the coast of California, and we're having
a good day. There's a lot going on right a
lot going on. You had crazy college football weekend, crazy

(00:46):
NFL weekend. I know Major League Baseball is still going on.
I've heard the WNBA plus are going on. Bruce Pearl
retired today. His son, Stephen Burrow's name is his successor
getting a five year deal. A lot of a lot
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footballs on the table, College Pro Iowa. Sam's here to

(01:30):
filibuster Forest. We got the whole crew. Let's uh, let's
play a little love and hate.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
What did you love?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
God? I love you?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And what did you hate? Net these player hays.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Love love love love love love love. Hey, hey, hey,
hey hey, Dan Byer has been in such a good mood.
Let's look like he had a great trip with Jay
stew To to Buffalo, to Niagara Falls and back. Let's
let him laid off. Dan.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
What do you got, Doug? I loved our trip to Buffalo.
I had a magnificent time. Sands the ending since the
departure from Buffalo, if that could be a different story,
maybe even for the same day, a different day.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, we just we had some travel snaffers out of Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh oh wait, give me the Okay, so you guys
know I travel a lot, right, a lot like I do.
I took Friday off so I can see my daughter
harper rye the Oakland State Scrimmage and we get to
recruit some as well. I was there. I was in
LA for one day and then I'm back. So tell
me the I'll tell you how my brain works for

(02:41):
the travel issues.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
What happened before Dan?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Before Dan eloquently talks about what happened on the way back.
I just want to give it a title because it's mine.
I made it up. It sounds like a murder mystery novel.
But the title of the story Dan's about to take
about to say, is the nightmare at O'Hare.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh, Oh, here's the worst. Oh, here's the worst. You
don't have to tell me that one of my assistant
coaches was flying out the California gate changed five times
because there were thunderstorms. Right, That's what happened on What
day was is that Friday after the show.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
This is my nightmare. We were trying to fly back Saturday,
Saturday night, and we were delayed in Buffalo. And then
it's not my love like it's I want to get
to my love of But we had to stay of
the night at O'Hare. Yeah, we spent the night at
O'Hare at the Hilton.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
No at O'Hare the actual airport, not the o'heritan either.
I guess it is the Hilton. I always think it's
a Sheraton, but it's a Hilton.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Because of the we just we didn't find the value.
Neither of us did.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And how long was the was the time between when
you thought you were gonna fly and then when you
did fly the next morning? What time is your flight
in the morning?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Seven am?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh? It was absolutely worth it to go check in
the hotel because I mean, you're in the hotel, you
can already be checked in. You could get up at
six fifteen to make your flight.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, well they did.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Then you're in a bad mood the whole weekend, dude.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, it wasn't worth the amount that we would have
had to pay because of the limited discount that was
given by the airline. Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
What was that fat discount there offered you big ten
percent off, big ten big ten country, big ten percent off.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Right, So let's see, so it should actually.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Be like, are you on United.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Ten percent off?

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Aren't they supposed to give you the.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Full Were you on American? Were you on American United?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
We were on United.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
So let's say the hotel room at the Oheritan or
the Hilton was two hundred dollars because it's it's right
by the airport, so it's very convenient. So you're saving
twenty dollars. What good does that do?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah? The Hilton by the at the airport was not
two hundred dollars. It was more than that, yes, yes,
significantly more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, what I did love
were the variety of eating establishments in Buffalo that we
went to. Jason, I don't know if you can attest
to this, but my goal was to eat wings every
single meal, and I almost accomplished it. In fact, there

(05:03):
was a sandwich you had a place bar Bill where
people raved about, but it looked so good that I
had to go with the sandwich over the wings. But
every other spot that we went to, I loved the wings.
Sands won. One was kind of let them. We won't
name who it was, but I almost accomplished having wings
for every meal during our sixty hours in Buffalo. It

(05:23):
was magnificent, in fact, because I had to then check
my bag because I had some sauces left that I
that I wanted to bring back and I had to
recheck the bag because of the sauces and the TSA
agent even said on one of the sauces, good job,
like that was a good recommendation, like a good place

(05:43):
to go.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's awesome. Yes, that's so Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
So kudos to Bob Schmidt for giving us the recommendation
on one of those places. Voice of the job. We
appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, but that's great sauce job.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, it was good sauce, real good sauce.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
That's good sauce. And we have a by the way,
we have dug the thing for the tickets, you weren't
here on all magnificency. Tickets were outstanding. This the in
game experience was so much fun. We had a lot
to say on Friday about it. But at bottom line
is Mike delivered on that one dog.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
My favorite honestly this is and I people ask me
for tickets all the time. You guys were great because
you asked early, then you followed up periodically without being
jerks about it whatever. But honestly, it's my favorite part
of everybody asks all the time. Like I I like
going to shows and games that I've been to a
lot of them. Nothing makes me happier than you liking

(06:36):
and appreciating and going to something that somehow is able
to pull off. That was cool and our thanks to
Chris and the Buffalo Bill's ticket.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Did you see the h did you see our seats?
Like from another social media? Yeah, we were, like I.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Was, I was like, I was like, honestly, when I
saw the seats, I said, God, I wish I would
have gone.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
We were we were six rows ahead of al Michaels
and Kirkerr Street, Like that's where we turned around. We
saw the Buffalo coaching staff, We saw the Miami coaching staff.
We saw Yeah, it was magnificent.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Did you turn around and flip them off for wave
or something?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
So, yeah, we definitely flipped him off, gave him a finger. Yes,
that's definitely what I'm gonna do to al Michaels.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Herbie's former buck guy, so you wouldn't flip him off.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Herbye's the best dude. Herby's good people. Oh no, you're
clothes like you could have gone and seeing Herbie great dude. God,
he's always bringing a different Golden Retriever though, on the road, right,
he's got to do.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's got his new one.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
His former one met it's you know, it's end and
he's got a new one now.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So that's my goal is to be able to bring
Barty on the road with me. But it's not he's
he's a service dog, but he's.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Not Sideline mascot.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
He'd be good. Okay, Samy, would you love for the weekend?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Okay, let's go to Friday night. You know, I don't
mind the Friday night Big Ten game or the Friday
night college game, but it's kind of nice, so it
gets it out of the way, especially if your team wins,
which Iowa did thirty eight twenty eighth. As Iowa was
locked in kind of a crazy shootout with Rutgers and
Piscataway and of the first quarter hits and Rutgers their
athletics department at their football program did a really nice thing.

(08:06):
They did their own version of the Iowa Wave, but
they used drones to make the form of a hand
to wave a little bit at fireworks, and then they
had a big r drone drones. I feel like they
had fire x too, but drones are like, you're not
gonna creep out the dog. They're not gonna make veterans
or people with PTSD feel like they're under attack. So
the drones are nice. They can do a lot of advancing.

(08:27):
So they did the hand, they did the wave, and
then they tinted the whole stadium. Read I loved it.
I thought it was a great gesture. If you want
to see video of it, it's at on my Twitter
page io Sam ninety nine. You can see it a
couple couple tweets down. Just a nice gesture from the
Rutgers athletics department in the stadium.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Therese two, I know you already touched on this and
this show, but I do want to give kind of
my perspective on the Charger. So Dan got into only
like a tenth of what made the nightmare at O'Hare
a nightmare. I could not be more happy to be
back in my couch watching football yesterday and to watch

(09:05):
the Chargers from start to finish. They just they don't
win games like this. As Doug has stated, they're not
only three and oh, but they're three and oh against
the AFC West. They are out to such a great start.
Justin Herbert was getting his ass kicked all game long,
and he kept fighting through it, kept making plays. Naja

(09:29):
Harris has done for the year. I want to say
the Khalil Mack. I'm hoping maybe to get back, but
like we just the Chargers just keep winning. It's so unchargedable.
Like I love it. I loved it from the weekend,
especially because it was a nice thing to experience after
the nightmare at a.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Chargers Go Go Chargas.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Was Philip Rivers?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Was he the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
When they were in.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Funny wesk Funny? Ask Drew ah the last time they
know too? The Drew Brees led him to four and oh,
now here's the funny side. They finished the year eight
and eight, so I don't want to take anything from
that year. But Drew Brees was the quarterback. Ladanian Tomlinson
was in his what first or second year, Marty Schottenheimer
was the.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Head coach, so they had everyone but Philip Rivers pretty much.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Jeez, what a touchdown throw and seriously by Herbert.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Like unbelievable, Yeah, unbelievable. I mean, look, my love would
be that people are starting to figure out, like he's
really good. You had knuckleheads on TV that I don't
think watched game full games. You know, they watch mistakes
and whatever. But honestly, I'm going to give my love
of the weekend to the Cleveland Browns. I love it
in Cleveland Browns. You're like, wait, dude, you live in

(10:49):
Green Bay. You like the Packers. I do, okay, But
we have our first practice today, say we get done.
Our practice begins thirty minutes after the show is done.
And I've learned a lot in one year. But the
hardest thing to teach us, I've told people is how
to win, you know, is how to how to win,

(11:10):
how to how to control everything and focus and finish
the task. And we just didn't. Last year. I had
a really young team, and I you know, I was
going through kind of mental reps of like six games
I thought we should have won. We did not close
the deal. But it wasn't just that they won. It
wasn't just that they kept fighting and they block a

(11:30):
kick and then they kicked their own. It was did
you see how seamless that operation was of getting a
couple more yards spiking the ball now that the ref
is supposed to touch it before they said it? But
whatever point is that the Cleveland Browns were ready for
that moment, right, ready for that moment. And and I like,

(11:52):
I can tell you you're getting ready for a game,
and you're worried about how do we stop them, and
how do we score? And what if they do this
we call it, if this, then that, if they do
and we do that, if they do this and then
we do that. Right, You're worried about all these other things.
But that team that was on the field, that was
in the two minute drill, they were prepped and ready
and executed to absolute perfection. Not just a two minute

(12:14):
but the ability to get a field goal down, you know,
to throw in the middle field, spike the ball, get
the field goal unit out there, kick the field goal,
win the game. And I as a coach, I loved it. Cleve,
all right, let's get to what we hated from the
weekend plenty to talk about. We go to our resident hater,
Jase Douo.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
What do you go, bye, Doug.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I can't stand prediction radio. I've said on this so
many times, I know what's coming. Once I program a network,
I'm gonna ban predictions. No predictions. It's silly, it's lazy,
it doesn't serve the listener. But on Friday, something really
neat happened. So I hate predictions. But on Friday, when

(12:57):
you weren't here, Dan Bayer and Carrie Rhodes were filling in.
Dan and I were doing the show from our affiliate
in Western New York. And I'm hoping that Dan remembers
the station's name because I don't. I should have done
that all much.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Downstation thirteen forty WLVL.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Oh, that could be a liner right there.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
They could not have been more professional, amazing accommodations. Thank
you to Frank for that. Now, Dan went around the
horn during game time. It was I got DIBs, and
he's like, I got dis what's your upset specials? What's
the upset for the weekend? And something like this happened.
There are some home teams getting a lot of points

(13:36):
this weekend, So I'm going to go with Cleveland getting
it looks like eight or eight and a half if
you're lucky, Cleveland to beat the Packers at home with
eight and a half points. Wait a minute, outright or
just to cover that's a great question. I guess I
misread the question. I'm going to go with the Brown's
outright pay Thank you So bottom line, I hate prediction

(13:59):
radio until I get one right. And then also I
want to let the listeners know. Did you see how
clumsy I was with that prediction. I didn't take it serious.
I was mocking the fact that we were doing predictions
and I still got it right. That should show you
how flimsy your gambling expert analysis is.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Thank you. Wow. And so it's my ted talk Sam.
We'll let you go second. Let me hate it in
the weekend, all right.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Well, I could have hated the Packer loss on the
road to the Browns in Cleveland. That's low hanging fruit
for me because I'm a Packer fan. I did not
like it, didn't care for it. I was here at
Fox Sports Trio watching it live. But I'll go to
something else. This is a hate based on fear. I
hate how good the Indiana Hoosiers look because they come
to Kinnick Stadium next weekend, and my goodness, the thrashing

(14:47):
that they did the ninth ranked Illinois fighting a lion
and I the ali and I were in fact not
fighting that day. They lost? Was it sixty five to ten?
Alost by fifty some points? Indiana, Indiana Hoosiers for a
second year in a row. We're like, we have the
big tennis to deal with. These guys. They brought in
the outgoes Curtis Rourke, who came in from Ohio to Indiana.

(15:10):
He brought them to the playoff last year. In they
bring in Fernando Mendoza from Cal stud and this guy
went twenty one of twenty three two sixty seven, five touchdowns,
no picks. I watched a handful of Cal games last
year when he was a quarterback at you know, Pack
two after dark whatever they were in the ACC at
that point, let's just say West Coast Football after dark.
I don't remember him ever putting on a show like this.

(15:31):
This guy is a stud. I am fearful of what
the Hoosiers might do to the Hawkeyes at Kinnick Stadium
next Saturday. They went from like a two and a
half three and a half four point favorite on Sunday
to now they're over a seven and a half point
favorite on the road. So, wow, Indiana looks like they
haven't skipped a beat. Kurt Signetti has he is a
transfer portal maven and so hopefully Iowa can get out

(15:55):
of their own home stadium with some dignity intact.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Hey, guys, real fast, have you guys noticed has there
ever been a state on a bigger sports heater than Indiana?
Sam just eloquently put how good the Hoosiers are playing
and they made the playoffs last.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Year, Pacers went to the finals.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Caitlin Clark and the Fever are the talk of an
entire sport and they just won their playoff game the
other day. I heard I didn't see it.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
First game in the sammis over the aces yep after
Asia Wilson took the MVP.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Culture three and oh, Culture three and oh with a
with a guy that was counted out and Daniel Jones
has not turned the ball over once in three games.
Has there ever been a state on a bigger sports
heater than the Indiana state?

Speaker 5 (16:43):
The state of Indian state, State of Indiana and Notre
Dame went to the went to the championship game last year,
and Indian Notre Dame probably will write the ship this year.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Don Dawkits is just killing folks with his right sports commentary.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Don and Dan and Indians having a hell of a
couple of two years. Now, hell of a couple of
two years.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Okay, let's get to you there, Dan Byer.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm nitpicking. I'm absolutely nitpicking because it was a banner
day yesterday for CBS Sports. All Right, you guys want
to know why? Why was yesterday a banner day.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Fiftieth fiftieth anniversary of NFL today or something.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Doug. This is how they started their broadcast yesterday. Loved it.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yes, you are looking live you how amazing Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's a battle of backup.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Quarter Brett Musburger, the Banals. They dressed up hoping they
can deliver in their seventies gear. Brought back to the
old set where the Patriots chased. It was magnificent. It
was just magnificent, Bret, the whole deal.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Hate.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
When the Patriots and Steelers played, the Patriots wore their
throwback uniforms. The on screen graphic used by Sports was
the current Patriot. Oh come on, absolutely yeah, my thoughts exactly,
Sam might have been in the computer, might have been.
But guess what. Guess who else wore throwback uniforms yesterday?

(18:14):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Fox And guess what Fox's graphic
Bucco Bruce brighton orange in our face, perfectly positioned knife
and teeth and CBS could not go that one millimeter
more to replace the flying Elvis with Pat Patriot. Yes,

(18:34):
and everything was great about yesterday in the throwback and
honoring the fifty years of CBS, and even the on
site announcers were dressed up ein Eagle and JJ Watt
looking straight out of nineteen seventy five. But that one
minor detail could have gone so far for CBS. They
dropped the ball on it. Otherwise a banner day, But

(18:56):
let's bring back Pat Patriot. If Fox can bring back
Bucko Bruce, CBS could do the same with another AFS
with a AFC legend.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
They should have had you look it over, Dan, They
should have had you and nobody asked proofreed everything.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I was at O'Hare, freezing to death, the nightmare O'Hair.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I hate what's happened to college football fans and broadcasters,
fans and broadcasts. I was watching Friday night as Oklahoma
State lost to Tulsa, and look, congrats to Tulsa. All right,
they lost their last two. They got a new coach,
They had a backup quarterback who transferred in from I
think East Tennessee State. He played really well Oklahoma State. Hey,

(19:36):
look good in the first drive and then stalled out
on just about every drive until the end and ended
up losing a game at home nineteen to twelve. Now
people are freaking out, how could you lose to Tulsa.
Look two years ago they won ten games. They lost
to South Alabama to start to start the season. Any
things happened. What I hate is this, What was the
point of Mike Gundy being awesome fifteen years? Now, of

(19:56):
a sudden, we're paying players and it it clearly they've
had a trouble adjusting right. Last year they had a
seventh year quarterback who won very good. The line they
kept six year linemen like, they kept their whole line
from that ten win team, and they just weren't that
good and they kind of got exposed. Everybody else got better.
And then this year he revamped everything. There's something called

(20:17):
sweat equity, and we completely lost it. Let me explain
to people, Okay, there was no Oklahoma State football before
Less Miles and then Mike Gundy. Okay, you had a
couple of years there where when you had Gundhy in
college and Hartley Dyke's and Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas, Right,

(20:37):
they were also they got put on probation, so they
were cheating at that time, okay, And this program was built.
And look, I'm not sitting here defending Gundhy like he's perfect. Okay,
but he won ten games two years ago at the
place and they lost to South Alabama. They have a
backup quarterback, they have a whole new staff. It's a
completely different way of doing business. My guess is ultimately

(21:00):
he'll figure it out. But this idea that things go
bad and oh yeah, by the way, no one has
ever said, like, hey, how much does it cost. They
all say, well, it's fifteen million dollars to get rid
of him. That's not how much it is to get
rid of him. The two coordinators have three year deals
at a million dollars apiece. Okay, so that's six million dollars,
or it'll be four million dollars ode to each of them.
I've been told it's like fifteen million dollars to get

(21:21):
to the staff. That's thirty million. Okay. Then all these
players have to be compensated. I've heard it's fourteen million,
So fifteen fifteen, fifteen. He's somewhere in the forty five
million dollar range, right, maybe a little bit more because
you're still paying that staff for this year. Okay, then
you gotta go get a new staff that's fifteen million,
and you're gonna get a new team. Well, this is
a fourteen million dollar team. Next year's team will be

(21:42):
a twenty million dollar team. They don't have the money.
You're talking about things that don't exist. So if you
want to rune a check for eighty million dollars, then
by god, you can tell my gun to you built
this program from basically scratch. Okay, that he can. He
can go and right off into the sunset with oothers.
But and by the way, he gonna take every right.
So I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm just saying we

(22:04):
get to this thing like people want Dabbo out like
he's it's like, he's right. It was eight out of
ten years they won the league, Like, what are we doing?
It's a completely The sport has been turned on its head,
turned on its head. People can compete that never could
previously compete because they have money and they can spend

(22:25):
it freely, and you have to adjust to how things
are done. And it takes guys a while. But usually
if you knew what you're doing before, you're gonna know
what you're doing now. It just takes a little while
to adjust, or maybe you don't. But I just hate
this knee jerk lose a game. Let's fire him. Let
the season play out, and let's see what's what makes
me want to keep does well right? And that is

(22:48):
love and hate.

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(23:23):
Did did? Does the new ownership group have to keep
them in Tampa?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
You know that's it's a Florida based group, and so
that seems to be the goal that they will, uh,
they will stay in Tampa. But the stadium situation is
one that is uh yeah, still up in the air.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, no, very very very very much. Okay, hey, uh
Jayce dud give me the rundown right now, guys, give
me the rundown of the baseball playoffs, because the Cubs
are gonna play the Padres? Is that right? And all
three will be at Wrigley?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
That's like?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Is it next week?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So the Cubs? The Cubs are in. Cubs are fully
in Brew clinched the division yesterday. Cubs have already clinched
their postseason birth, so they are good to go. Yes.
The drama comes in a variety of spots, not only
in the NL wild card race, with the Padres, Reds,

(24:20):
and Mets all hanging around, or the Reds and Mets basically,
but the Diamondbacks are their one game back of the
Reds and Mets, who are tied for the final NL
wild card. The American League wild Card is tied with
the Guardians and Astros, but the Guardians are also just
a game back of the Tigers for first place in
the AL Central, and those teams start a three game

(24:41):
set tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, but you didn't really what's likely to happen. Like
if you had to if I hate this, we do
it middle season, but it's really close to the end
of the season. If the playoffs were to end today,
who would play and how would it work?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
The Cubs would play the Podrays in that three game set.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
But all three are in Chicago. Go right, yes, that's
that's the rules, okay.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I just as of today, the Reds and or Mets
would visit the Dodgers for three games.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, and then if the Dodgers win, they play who
the Brewers or they play the Phi Phillies. Pay the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeick, Yes, that's right, that's what you're seeing, jay, right.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yep, yep, okay, And then American League American League.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
As of now, the Yankees and Red Sox are going
to play the free game set at Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean that's amazing. By the way, this is I
believe that's why they expand it.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
But go ahead, and then the uh Guardians and or
Astros would play the Tigers at Detroit, and.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Then Yankees Red Sox winner plays who.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
It would be uh Seattle right down or maybe maybe
maybe Toronto, Not sure?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Toronto and Seattle the Ones waiting for the for the
wild card winners.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yes, but right now Toronto has a three game lead
on the Mariners for the best record in the AL.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Okay, there's your baseball minute. Let's get ready for some
Monday night football tonight. Right Everyone to try an Olympic
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(26:30):
you hate prediction radio, but you can kill in your predictions.
Do you want to make prediction on tonight's game?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
No, but I definitely want to preview it. There's a
difference between preview and predicting it. The preview is these
are two of the best teams in football, and it's
going to be really fun. Two quarterbacks that could not
be less similar or less Yeah, less similar. That's all
I know about the game. I'm gonna leave the rest
of the pros.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, there's no real pros there. I mean again, it's
just we're still waiting for Detroit to look like Detroit
in the past couple of years and the Ravens look awesome.
They just didn't close out the Bills game, right, So
the Ravens have looked like frankly, you thought that the
Lions looked last year, and the Lions have looked like

(27:17):
a shell of themselves again in comparison to the dynamic
offense that they had. Ad Hutchson what he's got a
sack coming off of the knee. But you know, this
is our first chance to really dive in, and it's
I think this is a really fair You've had two games.
You know, You've had some ups, I've had some downs. Whatever.
You know, you kicked the crap out of the Bears

(27:38):
last week, so you got your confidence going now. I
think it's really fair to make a true assessment of
who the Lions are at the top of the NFL
based upon tonight. And then again, we're gonna my guess
is Lamar plays great. He's awesome regular season quarterback. You know,
I think the untold story that lost the Bills was
they had three three and outs as well as the

(27:59):
fumble in the fourth quarter when they lost that lead
to the Bills. But my expectations are the Ravens win.
I still don't think the Lions are close to what
they've been and I think some of it is coaches,
a lot of it is personnel is different.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
So if the Ravens win thirty four to twenty four,
what would be your takeaway? Like, because that's the we
got to watch the game.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Though, right, Like if the you know, it's like the
Lions struggled toy, have no creativity offensively, and you know
they score a couple of touchdowns late to make it
twenty four, that's different than really close game. Then Lamar
does something crazy, they go up a touchdown and then
you know, late in the game they get a stop
kick a field goal to make a ten. Right, It
very much depends upon the game play.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
The only reason I put it in that aspect is
at least these teams don't play often. However, because of
the seventeen game schedule, we did get a Lions Ravens
match up a couple of years ago that we normally
wouldn't in the NFL schedule rotation, and it's when the
Lions were on top of their game and they went
to Baltimore and got absolutely destroyed thirty eight to six.

(29:05):
It was a very unlion like performance and I don't
know if at that point it turned the season around
for the Lions or what it did, but that was
a game where we thought, wow, look at this great
matchup between these two teams, and it was anything but.
So if the Ravens win tonight, which I think that
they will, that I don't think it's going to change

(29:25):
anything along the way. But as long as the Lions
are competitive and in the game and not lost like
they were against Green Bay, I still think that they
have an opportunity and that they will be there at
the end. So I don't think it's as big of
a game as you think it is and how it's
going to set the tone. The Lions go and win,
then maybe they're just off and running in Week one

(29:47):
was a fluke. But yeah, I just they don't get
blown out thirty eight to six. I'm I'm I'm good
with it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, well, listen, I agree. I'm talking more of a
snapshot of who they are, right. Sometimes when we do this,
you know, I give you whatever you see from game
I mean, like, look as bad as they looked at
Game one, look awesome in game two. Granted, competition is different,
but they're still amazing in the second game against the Bears.
To me, it's just more of a snapshot of this
is the type of team that I have to go
through to win in the playoffs. And I do think

(30:19):
what has made them great has held them back in
the playoffs in that you know two years ago with
San Francisco. You know, sometimes he doesn't go for it,
sometimes he does, He gets a little, he makes odd decisions,
but you know, I think there are times in which
the trick plays at worked. There try times in which
there was untimely and then so now it's you're not

(30:39):
trying to prove yourself as a coordinator, but you're trying
to prove yourself as a coordinator. What does it look
like against the Ravens, who again look on paper and
at times on the field, like outside of the fourth
quarter against the Bills, they look at the best team
in football. I know it's a huge fourth point, okay,
but they look at the best team in football and
it's probably not even close. So how do the Lions

(31:03):
look in comparison to an elite team. It's different than
how they looked against the Bears, than their home field,
or even different than the Packers. Nobody knew what Micah
Parsons would do how they would look with it, like
there's a lot of unknown there. Now you have some known.
I do think the Ravens win. I do think it's
a competitive game. And you know, like again, I'm with

(31:27):
Jay stew like the whole predictions thing, but my guess
is close throughout. Here's another one for the Ravens. Here's
one that we don't know. They've had arguably or inarguably
and he wasn't very good last year, but they've had
the best kicker in football for or at least one
of the two or three best kickers in football for

(31:48):
the last decade. Now they have Tyler Loop. Now he
made a fifty two yard or he's four to four
in the year. There's no reason to think he's not.
But he's a rookie, right and all it takes is
one shank and you're like, wait, maybe these guys can go.
Kickers can kickers. Usually it's their second or third team
where they hit. See what happens with Tyler Loop. I'm

(32:08):
excited about tonight's game. I do think I like the
Ravens to win. I do think it's competitive. I do
think it's high scoring.

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(32:47):
Let's get to the press, the press. What do you
got there, Dann.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Doug forty nine Ers edge rusher Nick Bosa done for
the season, tore his a cl and his right knee
and yesterday's win over the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Is there is there something to the fact that Niners
seem to have more injuries to their star players than
everybody else?

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah? I don't. I don't think that they're cursed like
I just I don't know if it's the way that
they play. Yeah, but yeah, they're three and oh right now,
but three and oh but I don't I don't know
how sustainable. This is what two of them.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Like, Christian McCaffrey's not hurt. He was hurt the first
game yet right, Your quarterbacks hurt, missed the last game,
Your tight ends.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Hurt yep, Brendon Ayuk has yet to return.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yerik has not returned. Like these are all the guys,
I mean, there's other guys. Didn't Trump Williams get hurt
last year late in the year, I think, right, That's
why they weren't as good. I mean, so it just
happens they is there there guys. Part of it is
they're getting older. The part of is they have just
bad injury.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Run can I can I give you guys my theory? Yeah,
Kyle Shanahan wise about his injuries and maybe this is
some kind of karma. If you mislead the public about
the injuries of your team, they will become more injured.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Hmmm? Interesting?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Your karma could be karma, guy, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Good job.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
They come and go, They come and go.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Not even close to Culture Club's better songs, but definitely
the most popular. Would you say, do you really want
to hurt me? Yeah, that's better than karma chameleon. I'll
say that, do you really want to make me cry?
I think time clock of the heart is their best one.
But that's a different story for a different day. Cowboys

(34:56):
wide receiver Ceedee Lamb could miss three to four weeks
with his high ankle spray and likely to miss that
matchup Sunday in Week four against the Packers.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
On some team with no defense. This is one of
their two best offensive players.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
This is what Brian Dabole had to say about his
quarterback situation when asked today if Russ is the starter
moving forward, says, we're working through all personnel decisions. We'll
do that over the next few days. And then that
does sound like and then he goes, we're doing what
we normally do, which is watch tape. We're watching with
the players right now. We'll have a staff meeting after this.

(35:30):
Then wh I have a press conference right now? Why
don't you get all that stuff out of the way,
then have the press conference. So we have answers. But
I think there's going to be some change in New York.
That's the sense.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I'd love to see Jamis. I'm a bit I love you.
I like Jamis, you know, I know he turns it over,
he's entertaining, he can lead a football team. And yeah, like,
I'd like to see Jamis get after it.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
One other football note from this weekend, Syracuse was fine
twenty five grand by the ACC for faking injuries during
their win over Clemson this past Saturday.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Clemson find twenty five grand for faking being good. I mean, honestly,
the difference than Clemson's pretty obvious, right. They used to
have dudes outside the numbers. They used to have dudes,
Mike Williams, Nuke Hopkins, like you just you kind of
go through the list they used to just have do

(36:21):
they don't have to. The quarterback's not as good as
people thought it'd be, but they just don't have the dudes.
And again, that's that's where the portal changes things, because
in order to go Rick Herd high school guys, you know,
you're still having the hit rate and it takes them
a while to get up to speed. I just I
don't think they have the dudes they used to have.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Houston Rockets guard Fred Van Vlietz suffered a torn acl
according to ESPN.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh that stinks. I mean, that's the team that people
thought could challenge for the title with KD coming in
another KD team without a point guard. Let's see how
that worked out in Phoenix. So we'll see what Houston
can do in the short term.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
And Bruce Pearl retiring after eleven seasons with Auburn, son
Steven gets a five year deal to take over the reins.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Unbelievable. I believe he will end up in the Nations
Memorial Hall of Fame. Won a national title, a couple
national titles in Division two before taking Auburn to two
final fours two and that's the press. May get out
there and press.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
That was the press.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
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