September 23, 2025 • 37 mins
In this installment of Tuesday Morning Quarterback, Doug and the crew cover what wasn't covered on Monday in the NFL. Doug weighs in on the Packers' situation as head coach Matt LaFleur did not appreciate one of his players talking about an undefeated season. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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to you, Good luck to you. Baseball crank it up.
As we're getting ready for Octoba Octoba football. I mean,
how many coaches now it was this three major college
head coaches plus Stanford's open that have already been fired.
We're like, not even to October yet. And yeah, the
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Cowboys are terrible. Who are we going to make fun
of in the playoffs this year? When they lose early,
not the Cowboys a lot to get you, a lot
to digest. But we're just here doing the do and
getting you ready for another week of ball. As we
react to last night's when of the Lions taking down
the Ravens in Baltimore, how to do Baltimore fans Baltimore, Baltimore, Baltimore.
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And there's lots of things that we got to yesterday.
Major points we have on. We had Tom Telesco on,
we had John Miin o'caff on. Today. We talk a
lot of ball, but there are always things that get
missed time. I've always thought, hey, could we do our
true duties and show people, hey, we pay attention to
more than just the Cowboys suck or Kayleb Williams is good?
Or the Lions Ravens last night standalone games, or even
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the Chargers that Jase Douw and I are celebrating Verse
three and oh starts since two thousand and two. We
do that with Tuesday Morning quarterback, well Tuesday to.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This is Tuesday morning quarterback. In the afternoon, Mondays can
be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't get.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
To on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon. Yeah, you know, look,
Bryce Young wasn't great on Sunday, but if you if
you take what he did in the second half of
their second game that they lost when he was cooking,
and then you factor in Michael pennocks By though was awful.
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Two terrible picks. We haven't discussed it. We haven't gone
to detail of it. I don't know where we are
on Bryce Young. He's a little bit better than the
gotta get him out. Remember last year he got pulled
as being a starter at times, but we all kind
of annointed Mike Pennix is like, hey, he's a dude.
Now definitely didn't play like it. This past weekend he's
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had they're one and two in their own right. He's
had a kind of mere curiol second year and now
first year is a full time starter. Like again, just
something to keep your eye on. As when Kirk Cousin's
stunk and they put him in. Everybody fell in love
with Pennix because of his play at Indiana and at
Washington and he just got a rifle arm and how
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good is he really? I just I honestly think the
jury is still out.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You've got cat scratch fever. This is second straight week
you had picked Panthers on your Tuesday morning quarterback in
the afternoon. Yeah, the comeback against the Cardinals that just
fell short in that crazy game in week two, and
they seem to carry that momentum into week three.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I know whose ears are perked up right now, Big Mike,
Big Mike in the Facts of Carolina Panther Fan, He's like,
he's loving this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, you could all.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You can also say that Doug repeating his Tuesday morning
quarterback is getting Bryce full.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The Panthers have the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I didn't get that one. Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The Panthers have the Patriots coming up in Week four,
so that will be an interesting matchup. And it's a
perfect transition to the game and the teams that I
want to talk about, and that's the Steelers and the
New England Patriots. Oh please, do I think we look
on the surface and say, great win by Pittsburgh, by Pitts,
that's why you bring in Aaron Rodgers. Great job, That's
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why you do it. New England turned the ball over
five times in that contest, including a goal line tumble
by Romandre Stevenson where they're about to get points and
then they don't get points. But five turnovers in that
game that was dominated by the Patriots, and I think
New England probably will have some growing pains and they're
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experiencing them right now with that loss to Pittsburgh. They
were able to hold off the the Dolphins in Week
two and lost a weird game to the Raiders in
Week one, but Pittsburgh's two and one, and I don't
even know how good they are. The Seattle game has
the muff kickoff return right Caleb Johnson, Iowa product messes
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that out and ultimately that kind of turned out to
be the game, even though the Seahawks won by two scores.
But Aaron Rodgers was average at best against New England
in Week three. So you have a Patriots team at
one and two that I think we're down on that
maybe they aren't as bad. And Drake may threw for
two hundred and sixty eight yards. Now he's got some
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fumbling issues and he also threw an interception. Yeah right,
But yeah, I think that New England's a little bit
better than what their record has shown. And I don't
think Pittsburgh is not as good.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yes, sums up with that Pittsburgh team. They're just not
that good. Just not that good.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Feels like a great time to bring up this too.
Every single year Dan puts a prediction uh list in
the studio for everybody to make predictions, and Sam's out
on a limb of everything in the NFL that he
thinks is out on a limb, like really going out
there on a LEMMI predicted that the Patriots would be
nine and eight.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Little did I know that there? Dan, didn't you say
that their Vegas win total prediction was like eight and
a half. Okay, but they're one and two. I think
if they finished about five hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Simon, let me let me help you, Sam, Like seventy
five percent of the teams in the NFL end up
nine and eight or eight nine. Well, so it's actually
the most reasonable, you know, that prediction. Ever, that's what
you're getting at.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It's very on a limb, very close the trunk.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I didn't think that they thought he'd be so they'd
be decent. Like I thought that Vrabel would go like,
you know, four to thirteen, okay, but uh, I should
have done this. So my MVP pick with c J.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I should have said c J. Stroud's MVP is my
out on the LIMP pick. That would have been a
much better pick.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What happened to CJ.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Stroud? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's like it's a junior not I don't know. I'm
trying to think of some kind of is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He like dating? Is he dating really now? And his
mom's got to shut that down again like she did previously.
He's the one, He's the one who is it? Hammers it? No,
it's Jane dating and Daniels, Yeah, whose mom like comes
around with him? You know, she's like, see you're retenting
him from from the center block. Woman. She's yes, she's
center block in this she is.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So here's the Texans at oh and three, and in
game time I said, Houston's bad this year. They're bad
relatively to where they were last year.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, they've played a ten and where they were we
expected them to be after two years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But think of what they've done in the last three weeks.
They lost a tight game to the Rams fourteen to nine,
but they couldn't score a touchdown, So you're like, what's
up with that? Buccaneers score? At the end of the game,
come back and win it. In week two on Monday
Night football, so you're zero and two. Then you have
Nico Collins fumbling when you're tied up at ten, driving
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in the score and he loses a fumble. Your best
offensive player, best weapon on the team, four CJ. Stroud.
Then Jacksonville goes down and scores a touchdown and that's
a wrap. So like Texas, the Texans deserve to say
that they're bad at Owen three, But when you look
at like how they did it, they just seem to
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kind of be getting in their own way. The offense
is not producing points, but man, it's a tough way
to go oh to three, and I think they only
have themselves to blame.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
What'd you say earlier, Dan, you said you asked a question.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I believe it was this.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Then there you go in there, How did.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The Niners get like the softest schedule ever to where
we have no idea how good they are? Right? Seattle,
new quarterback, new coach. Again, I don't know how good
Seattle is. Part of it was the Saints are so bad.
Saints are so bad, like Donald like, hey, just don't
screw it up and you're fine, here, we're gonna we're
gonna win by a million. But then they played the Saints.
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Then they play the Cardinals at home again. The Cardinals
are okay now they lost Bosa, right like half of
their stars they've lost, and they get the Jags at
home next before and then it gets real, right Rams
Buccaneers on the road. But the Niners have this soft
schedule to where like they're three and oh, I have
zero feel for how good they actually are.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It helps to play the NFC South and the AFC
South this sason.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
The the NFC West is going to be this year's
AFC West from last year, right where you match up
against the two weakest divisions, and and NFC North from
last year the same thing as well. That's why both
of those divisions got three teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Two and one is in last place right now in
the NFC West.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The Niners are their most rickety three and oh team
in the NFL. I think we can agree very.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Rickety rickety meaning they guys are just well just I
mean that they're they're three and oh, but they've scraped
by rickety means I mean like an old boat it's
squeaky and it's got things falling apart the injuries.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, but that's not what you just said. You said
that they squeaked by they're rickety. Rickety is rickety is. Yes,
when they're all old and you think they're they're falling apart.
Rickety is when you're like you're on a wooden roller coaster,
a wooden roller coaster like.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
The bolts a loose rickety like rick old boat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's I thought the wooden roller coaster was enough. I
thought everybody got the wooden roller coaster analogy roll.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Wooden roller coasters are cool. There's one in Des Moines.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
No, they're not Ventureland.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
They're not. They're not. They are not.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Is this gonna last?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
They're they're they're they're not cool. The new ones are amazing, amazing.
Go to six Flags, Go about Batman. I mean, it's
like all comes back to Iowa. That all it comes
back to Iowa. Do you have anything you have anything
to add to this this segment? I mean Dan came
up with it. Jason, go ahead, like I thought you
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was taking a little nap.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Ug Is sammed up the entire segment by three topics already.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
There's so much talking about we're good. It's okay to
sam it up, It's all good.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
When we came up with the concept for this for
a Tuesday morning quarterback, it's not just the teams that
we didn't get to yesterday. It also could be an
angle on a story we did cover but just didn't
cover this angle. I don't know if you guys noticed
the end of the Eagles Rams game, but something truly
badass happened. You guys are familiar with the word stoic, Yes,
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very composed. It's it's something that is undervalued, especially in
our business behind the scenes. I want you composed. I
want you to be a I want you to be
someone who is stoic, who when the bullets are flying,
you're not running for the doors. I want I love
that quality and Jalen Hurts is all of that. So
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the Rams are kicking a field goal to win the game.
The Eagles block the kick famously, and the dumb special
teamer picks up and starts running to the end zone.
The entire Eagles sideline is going crazy. Jalen Hurts has
his arms crossed in front of him with a stoic
look on his face. Not reacting at all. Then he
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just walks to the middle of the field to shake
the quarterback's hand. It reminds me of something we talked
about recently. Remember when Tom Brady went on the podcast
and he talked about how he wants his quarterbacks to
react after touchdowns go ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
That's what I look for all the time when a
quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass. I actually watched to see
who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do.
I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went
down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates
every time. I wanted everyone to feel like they were
part of the success. I told the lineman, we're all
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running to the end zone and we're celebrating as a team,
because I think that's way more intimidating than a quarterback
doing his sixth s her guns and pointing up in
the crowd and doing all that other that's very self promotional,
but it's not about winning, and I think winning in
football is about a team always a team attitude.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
First, I thought that Tom Brady in this moment forgot
the third and coolest thing, which is a quarterback throws
a touchdown and he just runs off the field. That's
a badass move. And jaywhen Hurts doing what he did
on Sunday was a badass move. We just got away
with a game, onto the next game. No need to
over celebrate like a bunch of five year olds.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
His his reaction was so minimal. It was almost alarming
how little he reacted.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
He was just like there was Jay Wright winning the
National champions Just boom.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Larry Bird and Brenchan Miller hit that shot back in
the late nineties. Remember Larry Bird just sat there and
stared at him.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Larry, Larry legend.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's working out for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Dan, you got more, Daniel.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I think Jalen Hurts won a Super Bowl in February,
so he understands that that's the big win. That's where
you celebrate and smile. This was a this was a
business transaction. They've completed, the deal, finalized it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
He's the Billy d of the NFL. He's just kind
of cool. It's kind of cool, kind of yeah. Oh well,
Billy D. Billy D.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I got one any more?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Dan? You want to you want to get any more?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I don't know if you guys are alarmed at seeing
this this amount of backup quarterbacks at this point in
the NFL already. Let me rattle off some names. Toad Taylor,
Mac Jones, Jake Browning, Marcus Marioto, Carson Wentz. They all
stepped in for injured starters, a couple of big money,
big money quarterbacks like Brock Perty and Joe Burrow. I'm
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a little alarmed because didn't we set a record like
last year or two years ago for the number of
quarterback Two years ago it was like sixty it was
like fifty five or sixty seven. It was ridiculous, and
we've already I just feel like we're you know, as
they say, your best ability is your availability. And I'm
a little worried. Why are all these injuries happening? You know,
it's all you can explain it on a case by
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case basis, But we're seeing more backups than I think
we'd like to, and I'm I'm sure it brings down
the quality of the game. So I'm just a little
alarmed by how many injuries have taken place at the
quarterback position, and I hope it's not a trend that
continues for rest this season.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'll say this like I know, Jay stew you are
pretty set in on your on your thought that this
is was it Zaropa Right? Last year the NFL was
so poorly played that it was living on its previous albums,
not on the current album. Like you two with the
Zeropa Tier Tour. I think the quality plays and some
level been really good. Entertaining last night was a good,
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good level football. It was good. And the tackling from
the Lions also the pursuit tackling. You know, that's one
of those things that the guys that Lamar does go by,
they come back and get they come back and grab
his legs while he's about to make a move the
other way. But I think that the level of play
and a lot of these standalone games, maybe more than
the Sunday games, has been good. And then obviously the
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finish is Saturday. We said this yesterday, But it was
that early window when you went back to back to
back with crazy finishes, right, it was with.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The Browns pack party.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh ye had Brownspackers, and you had the Rams Eagles,
and then you had the comeback with the Buccaneers. Buccaneers
late drive all in the early window was pretty awesome.
Good weekend that's Tuesday Morning Quarterback. So so we'll we'll, we'll, well,
we'll take you behind the scenes. So that means we
have not developed an outro for the for We only
have an intro for it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Sam, I'm just gonna I'm gonna have Bob do another
outro and it's gonna be called that's Dog's take on
Bryce Young becoming Bryce Old.
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think a lot of you guys have heard this. Rashid
Walker's a lineman for the Packers when they were two
and zero. He was in the locker room and being
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interviewed and he said this, that's.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Why we well right now, and then the goal is,
you know, keep it going.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've maybe even go undefeated. Honestly, So look what he
didn't say we're going undefeated. He didn't say we talk
about going undefeated all the time. He's like, look, honestly,
I think we can go undefeated, but you know, it's
kind of silly, and then they turn around lose to
the Browns in the very next game. Here's their head
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coach Matt Lafleur, when he was asked to address the
comment by Walker.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
I just think this league is such a week to
week league and you can never lose sight of that,
and you can't take any moment, any game for granted.
And the goal and I've said it a million times
to you guys, I don't think I've obviously said it
enough to our team. The goal is to go want
to oh every week, and it pisses me off when
we start talking about things outside of the next game,
things that are way down the road, like focus on
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keep keep the focus on the present, on the now,
and worry about getting better each and every day.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's fair. Six six fall starts, fourteen overall penalties, that'll
that'll get you beat. So it does, you know, want
to know every week does sound like coach peak, but
it's true. You start looking, you know, you start worrying
about things that are, you know, fifteen weeks away and
you forget that it doesn't matter now because you've you've
lost to the Browns. But you know, guys step in it.
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I don't think he's stepped in it that bad, but
it looks worse when you have so many penalties and
you look so asleep and get beaten by a team
that I think most people would say is inferior in
terms of top to bottom talent and everything else. Didn't
they win the WNBA championship last year?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
They beat the Links and then they had a first
round exit. I don't, I don't get it. I think
the coach, the whole coaching situation the WNBA is different
from any other sport. I mean, I'm just going off
what the Fever did where they had their prior coach
and then they're like, now you got the playoffs, we're
gonna get something better.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, but I mean she had all kinds.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Sure she has definitely White's great been great for the Fever.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But anyways, yes, uh okay, well uh Jay s dou
you want you wanted to get in on my my
thoughts on the Packers situation.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
No, I wanted to ask you guys about Matt Lafour
because he sounds really aggravated. How much of his aggravation
do you think day to day is that he is
not getting what he had hoped out of his quarterback.
If you kind of take a look at Jordan Love's
strange career as a starter, you know, after four or
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five games, you had a prevalent host on this network
saying that he can't play. Then he finishes out the
twenty three season like nobody else. He's the trendy pick
for MVP a year ago, and he underwhelmed. I know
he hadn't thrown like an interception in like nine games
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up to this past week, but that was a bad interception,
and the lack of interceptions doesn't speak to his kind
of poor decision making on the way. Do you think
do you think Matt Lafour is frustrated most with his
quarterback at this juncture?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No? Do I think it's frustrating, Yes, But do I
think it's no. I thought his offensive line play was
not good. Fourteen penalties not good? Yeah, I mean, but
you have to know that Jordan Love hadn't had one
of those moments in almost a calendar year. It was
like the first half of the season last year he
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kept doing it and that went away. So I again,
I don't think that's the energy behind it. I think
it's that when you watch the tape, it was incredibly
sloppy and you know, you just played well against two
really good teams. Why are we playing to the level
of the Browns. I think that's the annoyance.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'll tell you something that's also happening. And Doug, you
may get a sense of this because you're in the city.
But I do follow pressure well. I do follow reporters
and other people who cover the Packers, and there is
starting to be a narrative of it being difficult to
play quarterback for Matt Lafleur. And I think that that's
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an interesting angle with all of this when you consider
how the Aaron Rodgers tenure occurred in Green Bay and
Jordan Love is supposed to be their guy drafted by
this crew. With Matt Lafleur there, then maybe it's not
the easiest to play quarterback in Green Bay right now?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Sure, sure that's fair, And you know, then there's all
the other factors. There's the there's the you know, he
had a wide receiver go down last week, still waiting
for one to get get healthy. No, you know, doesn't
have the time because his offensive line was just getting dominated,
and there's probably unrealistic expectations, not just of him, but
playing for a quarterback. Listen, I guard myself against it
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a great deal.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I have a a really talented junior college All American
point guard, and then I have two other point guards
that are very good, a D two kid who I
really like, another junior college D two Junior college All American,
and and then my team captain's like a combo seeking
play point. And even if you go back to last year,
you know one of my my freshman, Ben Tweety, who's
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now at Colgate. You know, the guys who pulled me aside, like,
you know, they don't see the game the way you
see the game. I'm just great, But I told them
where the ball needs to go. Make it go there.
It's there, and it's a It's a really hard thing
sometimes when you're like, I know how this is supposed
to operate. Just do what I tell you to do,
and you'll be better because of it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I just think Matt Lafleur a lot of times comes
off as very uptight. And even though you're from the
same coaching tree that Sean McVay was Kyle Shanahan, you're
from that group. I feel that there's he feels seems
more stressed out than say shanahan or McVay.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well me, listen, Shanahan's not easy to play for those quarterbacks. No, okay,
And the same thing with McVeigh. I mean, Derek GoF
took me to the Super Bowl and they were like, yeah,
we're done with him.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Correct. But I think that there's give and take. Like
I think that there's an appreciation of good and bad
which allows you to make those decisions. And I think
with Lafleur at times, just the sense that I get
is that everything is bad, that that everything is now.
I'm not saying saying that you're going to go undefeated
is something that you should accept, but I just I
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get the sense that that it's probably not the easiest
to play quarterback because of what he demands and what
he expects. And I think that there there's got to
be some some give and take.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's it's fair. I would also tell you that living
in the area I think there's some pressure. I think
I think that's what this particular rant or whatever or
feeling us about is. Okay, when they traded for Michael Parsons,
people half joking like, all right, and this is our year.
Then they win two games against two good teams, and
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now they're convinced this is our year. Now you've got
some young defensive linemen be like, yo, I think we
go undefeated. And so you're sitting there on your mount before,
like we have fourteen penalties, we can't even beat the Browns.
You're talking about being unefeated. You're like perturbed. You're feeling
the pressure of trying to live up to expectations. You
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have a new president, remember that. You know Mark Murphy
now he's actually one of my bosses. Now he's the
outgoing Presidency of Policy now who's had policies in charge.
And you know Brian Goodencuntz who pulled off that trade.
Their contracts have not been extended. His contract's not been expended.
I'd say some it's also the pressure. Some it's also pressure.
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It stuck out the show here on Fox Sports Radio.
So Jackson Dart has been named the starter for the
New York Football Giants, which, as Dan has pointed out,
kind of weird, like you could have gone with you
if you wanted to give yourself a chance with a veteran,
like yeah, jam is sitting there, why not? But it
does feel like this is the old job saver, right
(25:35):
because if you win a couple of games, they're like, oh,
look what's in the future, and he's the quarterback whisper again,
and oh yeah, by the way, if he makes a
big turnover late, you just go, hey, it's a rookie quarterback,
you know, And we don't even want to start him,
but we do because we just don't have anybody else
but Jackson Dart be named quarterback. When I heard it,
(25:55):
it signified the end of Russell Wilson's football career because
there's just certain things you kind of can't do once
you become Russell Wilson, and being a full time backups
one of those things.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's like cowhurt is never going to be a sidekick
to somebody on a radio or TV show, right, Like,
once you've kind of done that, even as you like
you age out, like it doesn't really work like that,
not that he's aging out. The same thing with Dan Patrick.
You know, Dan's not going to be a part of
somebody else's ensemble cast. He's Dan freaking Patrick. Right. The
(26:30):
problem with being Dan Patrick to problem be Alan Iverson.
You know when when I don't know any MVP to
come over the bench, right, Well, okay, but either you
want to stick in the league or you don't. Russell
Wilson was you know, he two different coaches in Denver.
Seattle was done, Pittsburgh was done, and now the Giants
(26:53):
are done. I think he's done. I think it's done,
and I think he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. You know,
when we stop, we take a breath. Two Super Bowls
won to one part of you know, yeah, he was.
He was, uh, Jalen hurts before Jalen hurts, right, And
I know Jalen runs more than he ran, But it
(27:14):
just the stats didn't. They weren't jaw dropping, but it did.
I've Dan and I have talked about this on and
off air all the time. Every Seahawks game seemed to
be the same right where it would be close, he
wouldn't be playing great, and then he'd the defense skeeme close,
and then late in the game somehow he'd run around,
scrim around and make a play and they'd win the game.
And you're like, how how how are you end up
(27:34):
win the game? He wasn't that good, but his teams win.
I think that's the last we see of him. You know,
maybe this year we'll see him a couple more times.
If Dark gets hurt or he struggles, put him in whatever,
start him a game. I don't know, but I just
don't see it going forward.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Did you guys? You guys remember the final part of
the Giants Chiefs game if.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Russell when he threw the ball out of out of
the end zone, Like, was that three time?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
If it's Russell Wilson's final actions on an NFL field,
The Giants were trailing by two touchdowns, the Giants needed
to score quickly, and he's throwing it out of the
balance pretty much way out of the reach of his
receivers in the end zone. His his last pass is
identified as this incompletion pass incomplete to uh to Robinson,
(28:24):
and that doesn't even come close to summarizing how bad
the pass was. It would be I guess it would
be kind of a fitting ending to these last couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Crazy Dan, do you think he's in the NFL next year.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, I just I don't think he's a starter.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Do you think Russell Wilson sticks around to be somebody's backup?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Why, I don't know. I just I don't think that
that he's ready to call it quits. I think someone
will will want him and bring him along. Yeah, I
just I don't know. I just I don't think that
it ends like this. It may not end great, but
I just don't think not that he's going to have
this response and come back and play great. I think
(29:11):
that it's over, But I just think that there's there's
enough spots in the NFL where that he could serve
as a backup.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I wrote him off, but he's not gonna right back.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I think that yours is way more practical. But I
just don't see him going out like that. He likes
to be Russell Wilson the quarter.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I know. That's why I think he'll be on TV.
I just think he'll be on TV. And as much
as you're like no way, like come on, man, he's
good looking, he's good with a sentence like we we're
all kind of done with you. We call roller eyes
at the Unlimited. But Guys like that always get a
shot on TV. They just do you know Bre's gotten
(29:56):
two shots now, you know quarterback Super Bowl smart, good looking,
married to a super superstar. Yeah, he'll be on DV.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
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talk about it more in the podcast. I've said this
and I mean it. PTI is the best show, best
(31:00):
sports show on TV. It's really really good. But they
I thought they had a bad moment yesterday, bad moment yesterday.
So Bruce Pearl retires, and I look, I think, Byer,
let me hit you with this. What if I said,
Bruce Pearl is the quintessential college basketball coach from from
this perspective. Okay, like he was. He was a manager
(31:24):
in college for doctor Tom Davis, right, kind of works
his way up. He he uh, he's the He's the
tattletale on Illinois basketball when they were cheating for Deon
Thomas back in the day. Right, then he's the head coaches.
He gets ostra sized and sent to Division two. He's
the head coach of Southern Indiana. They win a national title,
(31:45):
goes to Milwaukee, wins there Sweet sixteen. There, goes to Tennessee,
wins there, but then gets in trouble. Right the NCAA
comes back with Auburn, goes to the Final four twice.
He's on TV. And when I say quintessential, like he's
half car salesman, half snake oil salesman, but of it
is comes from like some genuine joy where he just
a bit of a force multiplier. Right. And he's quirky,
(32:10):
he's glib, he has great one liners, he's always smiling.
He's Jewish, but he's promoting Jesus within his players. Like
he's kind of tries to do everything and somehow it
all works. Right. That's when you think of college basketball coach.
There those type of big personalities that you're like, I
know he's a good guy, but a good guy, bad guy, shady, something,
(32:30):
I don't know, but I like him there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes, I got to know him a little just when
he was at Milwaukee because I was working in Madison
at that time. Not on a personal level, just over
the phone, and he made you feel like you were
the most important thing at that point. Very welcoming had
his home phone number, the whole deal. So very yes.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, So here's God.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But I was just gonna say, yeah, but ask any
Illinois fan on what they thought of Bruce Pearl and no,
no question, I'll tell you differently.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, here's Mike Wilbon when they did Happy Trails for
Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Happy Trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl. The Auburn coach
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletics
department in his place. The school gave a five year
deal to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He
has had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which
made the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen.
His decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did
(33:27):
the same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not
run for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Tony.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
and I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Really, I would liked him. He was such a great guest.
He were on the other side on him.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
It was really, really really that was one of the
oddest exchanges ever. Like happy Trails, you always say something
nice about like, Nah, didn't like him. He's divisive because
he's become he's become a mega guy. That's really what
it is.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
That's what it is, Doug Nobody.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Also one last thing about Bruce Pearl as he's retiring,
Nobody sweated through a suit jacket like Bruce Pearl. Guy I.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Second Olahoma State. I sweated, but not suit jacket.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
What about Sean Miller?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He is also Sean Miller is a small sweat team.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
But Bruce was a Tennessee. There was one day where
he was wearing like the all orange and.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
He was light gray suit, sweat through it. Let's get
to the press and Dan byer.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
The press.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Here's the thing. I'm not a maga guy. Everybody listens
to the show knows that. But like, he's not divisive.
He's in Auburn, Alabama. What do you think his bas is, like,
what are we doing? I don't know. Felt weird for
for Wilbond to have an opinion on something for once.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
In Norman, Oklahoma, Doug, they are not happy after hearing
the news that quarterback John Mattire is out indefinitely. He
will have surgery tomorrow in Los Angeles. Crazy tore pair
a right hand injury now. Pete Thamil of ESPN says
it's a broken bone in his right hand that he
suffered in the first quarter of their win against Auburn.
(35:10):
He finished the game on Saturday. Michael Hawkins Junior will
start against Kent State on October fourth. That's their next
game Texas at the Cotton Bowl. Red River Rivalry coming
up October eleventh.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
But by the way. The big story is oklham State
firing Mike Gundy. The little story is, well, their starting
quarterback transferring from TCU. You know, with the now interim
head coach at Oklahoma State, right offense quarter quarterback together,
he got hurt three series into his career. Mattier, his
offense quarter came over from Washington State. Now he's hurt.
(35:42):
A fast Matteer has been the best quarterback in college football.
I can't believe he's hurt. That suck. Honestly, that sucks
for the suitors.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We talked about Mike Gundy being out at Oklahoma State.
We just talked about Jackson Dart replacing Russell Wilson as
the Giants quarterback. We didn't talk about the Titans making
a change as head coach Brian Callahan is giving up
play calling duties. Quarterbacks coach bo Heart agree will now
call place for the zero to three Titans. Tights are bad,
they are, and it feels like it's a desperate move.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
This regime in the front office did not bring in
Brian Callahan, who's only in year number two. But you
wonder on if you're starting to feel the pressure.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
New stadium is the state of mixt year.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh No, I think it's a couple of years away.
The Bills is next year, but I don't think. I
know they're in the process of building the Titan Stadium,
but I don't think it's next year. Don't quote me
on that. Major League Baseball's Competition Committee has approved the
automated Balls and Strikes Challenge system for the twenty twenty
sixth season. It'll be there all season long next year.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's so good. ABS is so good. I mean, it's
really really that simple. I can't believe it took this long.
It worked in the miners, now they have in the majors.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Good and Doug One other final notes WNBA after a
championship appearance, New York Libert fired at coach Sandy Broundello
today and the new Nissan Stadium will open in twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Can I quote you on that one?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I just looked it up, so now you can.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And that is the press.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Now you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 8 (37:17):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So you can download the podcast and listen. But the
basic point is, like, I don't understand what the need
to fire a guy three games in with a new
regime is. But whatever this is The Gottlieb Show. Download
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to you, Good luck to you. Baseball crank it up.
As we're getting ready for Octoba Octoba football. I mean,
how many coaches now it was this three major college
head coaches plus Stanford's open that have already been fired.
We're like, not even to October yet. And yeah, the
(01:10):
Cowboys are terrible. Who are we going to make fun
of in the playoffs this year? When they lose early,
not the Cowboys a lot to get you, a lot
to digest. But we're just here doing the do and
getting you ready for another week of ball. As we
react to last night's when of the Lions taking down
the Ravens in Baltimore, how to do Baltimore fans Baltimore, Baltimore, Baltimore.
(01:35):
And there's lots of things that we got to yesterday.
Major points we have on. We had Tom Telesco on,
we had John Miin o'caff on. Today. We talk a
lot of ball, but there are always things that get
missed time. I've always thought, hey, could we do our
true duties and show people, hey, we pay attention to
more than just the Cowboys suck or Kayleb Williams is good?
Or the Lions Ravens last night standalone games, or even
(01:57):
the Chargers that Jase Douw and I are celebrating Verse
three and oh starts since two thousand and two. We
do that with Tuesday Morning quarterback, well Tuesday to.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This is Tuesday morning quarterback. In the afternoon, Mondays can
be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't get.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
To on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon. Yeah, you know, look,
Bryce Young wasn't great on Sunday, but if you if
you take what he did in the second half of
their second game that they lost when he was cooking,
and then you factor in Michael pennocks By though was awful.
(02:43):
Two terrible picks. We haven't discussed it. We haven't gone
to detail of it. I don't know where we are
on Bryce Young. He's a little bit better than the
gotta get him out. Remember last year he got pulled
as being a starter at times, but we all kind
of annointed Mike Pennix is like, hey, he's a dude.
Now definitely didn't play like it. This past weekend he's
(03:05):
had they're one and two in their own right. He's
had a kind of mere curiol second year and now
first year is a full time starter. Like again, just
something to keep your eye on. As when Kirk Cousin's
stunk and they put him in. Everybody fell in love
with Pennix because of his play at Indiana and at
Washington and he just got a rifle arm and how
(03:26):
good is he really? I just I honestly think the
jury is still out.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You've got cat scratch fever. This is second straight week
you had picked Panthers on your Tuesday morning quarterback in
the afternoon. Yeah, the comeback against the Cardinals that just
fell short in that crazy game in week two, and
they seem to carry that momentum into week three.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I know whose ears are perked up right now, Big Mike,
Big Mike in the Facts of Carolina Panther Fan, He's like,
he's loving this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, you could all.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You can also say that Doug repeating his Tuesday morning
quarterback is getting Bryce full.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The Panthers have the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I didn't get that one. Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The Panthers have the Patriots coming up in Week four,
so that will be an interesting matchup. And it's a
perfect transition to the game and the teams that I
want to talk about, and that's the Steelers and the
New England Patriots. Oh please, do I think we look
on the surface and say, great win by Pittsburgh, by Pitts,
that's why you bring in Aaron Rodgers. Great job, That's
(04:30):
why you do it. New England turned the ball over
five times in that contest, including a goal line tumble
by Romandre Stevenson where they're about to get points and
then they don't get points. But five turnovers in that
game that was dominated by the Patriots, and I think
New England probably will have some growing pains and they're
(04:53):
experiencing them right now with that loss to Pittsburgh. They
were able to hold off the the Dolphins in Week
two and lost a weird game to the Raiders in
Week one, but Pittsburgh's two and one, and I don't
even know how good they are. The Seattle game has
the muff kickoff return right Caleb Johnson, Iowa product messes
(05:19):
that out and ultimately that kind of turned out to
be the game, even though the Seahawks won by two scores.
But Aaron Rodgers was average at best against New England
in Week three. So you have a Patriots team at
one and two that I think we're down on that
maybe they aren't as bad. And Drake may threw for
two hundred and sixty eight yards. Now he's got some
(05:40):
fumbling issues and he also threw an interception. Yeah right,
But yeah, I think that New England's a little bit
better than what their record has shown. And I don't
think Pittsburgh is not as good.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yes, sums up with that Pittsburgh team. They're just not
that good. Just not that good.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Feels like a great time to bring up this too.
Every single year Dan puts a prediction uh list in
the studio for everybody to make predictions, and Sam's out
on a limb of everything in the NFL that he
thinks is out on a limb, like really going out
there on a LEMMI predicted that the Patriots would be
nine and eight.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Little did I know that there? Dan, didn't you say
that their Vegas win total prediction was like eight and
a half. Okay, but they're one and two. I think
if they finished about five hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Simon, let me let me help you, Sam, Like seventy
five percent of the teams in the NFL end up
nine and eight or eight nine. Well, so it's actually
the most reasonable, you know, that prediction. Ever, that's what
you're getting at.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It's very on a limb, very close the trunk.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I didn't think that they thought he'd be so they'd
be decent. Like I thought that Vrabel would go like,
you know, four to thirteen, okay, but uh, I should
have done this. So my MVP pick with c J.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I should have said c J. Stroud's MVP is my
out on the LIMP pick. That would have been a
much better pick.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What happened to CJ.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Stroud? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's like it's a junior not I don't know. I'm
trying to think of some kind of is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He like dating? Is he dating really now? And his
mom's got to shut that down again like she did previously.
He's the one, He's the one who is it? Hammers it? No,
it's Jane dating and Daniels, Yeah, whose mom like comes
around with him? You know, she's like, see you're retenting
him from from the center block. Woman. She's yes, she's
center block in this she is.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So here's the Texans at oh and three, and in
game time I said, Houston's bad this year. They're bad
relatively to where they were last year.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, they've played a ten and where they were we
expected them to be after two years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But think of what they've done in the last three weeks.
They lost a tight game to the Rams fourteen to nine,
but they couldn't score a touchdown, So you're like, what's
up with that? Buccaneers score? At the end of the game,
come back and win it. In week two on Monday
Night football, so you're zero and two. Then you have
Nico Collins fumbling when you're tied up at ten, driving
(08:02):
in the score and he loses a fumble. Your best
offensive player, best weapon on the team, four CJ. Stroud.
Then Jacksonville goes down and scores a touchdown and that's
a wrap. So like Texas, the Texans deserve to say
that they're bad at Owen three, But when you look
at like how they did it, they just seem to
(08:22):
kind of be getting in their own way. The offense
is not producing points, but man, it's a tough way
to go oh to three, and I think they only
have themselves to blame.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
What'd you say earlier, Dan, you said you asked a question.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I believe it was this.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Then there you go in there, How did.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
The Niners get like the softest schedule ever to where
we have no idea how good they are? Right? Seattle,
new quarterback, new coach. Again, I don't know how good
Seattle is. Part of it was the Saints are so bad.
Saints are so bad, like Donald like, hey, just don't
screw it up and you're fine, here, we're gonna we're
gonna win by a million. But then they played the Saints.
(09:01):
Then they play the Cardinals at home again. The Cardinals
are okay now they lost Bosa, right like half of
their stars they've lost, and they get the Jags at
home next before and then it gets real, right Rams
Buccaneers on the road. But the Niners have this soft
schedule to where like they're three and oh, I have
zero feel for how good they actually are.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It helps to play the NFC South and the AFC
South this sason.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
The the NFC West is going to be this year's
AFC West from last year, right where you match up
against the two weakest divisions, and and NFC North from
last year the same thing as well. That's why both
of those divisions got three teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Two and one is in last place right now in
the NFC West.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The Niners are their most rickety three and oh team
in the NFL. I think we can agree very.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Rickety rickety meaning they guys are just well just I
mean that they're they're three and oh, but they've scraped
by rickety means I mean like an old boat it's
squeaky and it's got things falling apart the injuries.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, but that's not what you just said. You said
that they squeaked by they're rickety. Rickety is rickety is. Yes,
when they're all old and you think they're they're falling apart.
Rickety is when you're like you're on a wooden roller coaster,
a wooden roller coaster like.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
The bolts a loose rickety like rick old boat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's I thought the wooden roller coaster was enough. I
thought everybody got the wooden roller coaster analogy roll.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Wooden roller coasters are cool. There's one in Des Moines.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
No, they're not Ventureland.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
They're not. They're not. They are not.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Is this gonna last?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
They're they're they're they're not cool. The new ones are amazing, amazing.
Go to six Flags, Go about Batman. I mean, it's
like all comes back to Iowa. That all it comes
back to Iowa. Do you have anything you have anything
to add to this this segment? I mean Dan came
up with it. Jason, go ahead, like I thought you
(10:59):
was taking a little nap.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Ug Is sammed up the entire segment by three topics already.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
There's so much talking about we're good. It's okay to
sam it up, It's all good.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
When we came up with the concept for this for
a Tuesday morning quarterback, it's not just the teams that
we didn't get to yesterday. It also could be an
angle on a story we did cover but just didn't
cover this angle. I don't know if you guys noticed
the end of the Eagles Rams game, but something truly
badass happened. You guys are familiar with the word stoic, Yes,
(11:33):
very composed. It's it's something that is undervalued, especially in
our business behind the scenes. I want you composed. I
want you to be a I want you to be
someone who is stoic, who when the bullets are flying,
you're not running for the doors. I want I love
that quality and Jalen Hurts is all of that. So
(11:56):
the Rams are kicking a field goal to win the game.
The Eagles block the kick famously, and the dumb special
teamer picks up and starts running to the end zone.
The entire Eagles sideline is going crazy. Jalen Hurts has
his arms crossed in front of him with a stoic
look on his face. Not reacting at all. Then he
(12:18):
just walks to the middle of the field to shake
the quarterback's hand. It reminds me of something we talked
about recently. Remember when Tom Brady went on the podcast
and he talked about how he wants his quarterbacks to
react after touchdowns go ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
That's what I look for all the time when a
quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass. I actually watched to see
who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do.
I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went
down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates
every time. I wanted everyone to feel like they were
part of the success. I told the lineman, we're all
(12:53):
running to the end zone and we're celebrating as a team,
because I think that's way more intimidating than a quarterback
doing his sixth s her guns and pointing up in
the crowd and doing all that other that's very self promotional,
but it's not about winning, and I think winning in
football is about a team always a team attitude.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
First, I thought that Tom Brady in this moment forgot
the third and coolest thing, which is a quarterback throws
a touchdown and he just runs off the field. That's
a badass move. And jaywhen Hurts doing what he did
on Sunday was a badass move. We just got away
with a game, onto the next game. No need to
over celebrate like a bunch of five year olds.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
His his reaction was so minimal. It was almost alarming
how little he reacted.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
He was just like there was Jay Wright winning the
National champions Just boom.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Larry Bird and Brenchan Miller hit that shot back in
the late nineties. Remember Larry Bird just sat there and
stared at him.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Larry, Larry legend.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's working out for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Dan, you got more, Daniel.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I think Jalen Hurts won a Super Bowl in February,
so he understands that that's the big win. That's where
you celebrate and smile. This was a this was a
business transaction. They've completed, the deal, finalized it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
He's the Billy d of the NFL. He's just kind
of cool. It's kind of cool, kind of yeah. Oh well,
Billy D. Billy D.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I got one any more?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Dan? You want to you want to get any more?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I don't know if you guys are alarmed at seeing
this this amount of backup quarterbacks at this point in
the NFL already. Let me rattle off some names. Toad Taylor,
Mac Jones, Jake Browning, Marcus Marioto, Carson Wentz. They all
stepped in for injured starters, a couple of big money,
big money quarterbacks like Brock Perty and Joe Burrow. I'm
(14:43):
a little alarmed because didn't we set a record like
last year or two years ago for the number of
quarterback Two years ago it was like sixty it was
like fifty five or sixty seven. It was ridiculous, and
we've already I just feel like we're you know, as
they say, your best ability is your availability. And I'm
a little worried. Why are all these injuries happening? You know,
it's all you can explain it on a case by
(15:04):
case basis, But we're seeing more backups than I think
we'd like to, and I'm I'm sure it brings down
the quality of the game. So I'm just a little
alarmed by how many injuries have taken place at the
quarterback position, and I hope it's not a trend that
continues for rest this season.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'll say this like I know, Jay stew you are
pretty set in on your on your thought that this
is was it Zaropa Right? Last year the NFL was
so poorly played that it was living on its previous albums,
not on the current album. Like you two with the
Zeropa Tier Tour. I think the quality plays and some
level been really good. Entertaining last night was a good,
(15:39):
good level football. It was good. And the tackling from
the Lions also the pursuit tackling. You know, that's one
of those things that the guys that Lamar does go by,
they come back and get they come back and grab
his legs while he's about to make a move the
other way. But I think that the level of play
and a lot of these standalone games, maybe more than
the Sunday games, has been good. And then obviously the
(16:00):
finish is Saturday. We said this yesterday, But it was
that early window when you went back to back to
back with crazy finishes, right, it was with.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The Browns pack party.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh ye had Brownspackers, and you had the Rams Eagles,
and then you had the comeback with the Buccaneers. Buccaneers
late drive all in the early window was pretty awesome.
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Speaker 5 (16:30):
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think a lot of you guys have heard this. Rashid
Walker's a lineman for the Packers when they were two
and zero. He was in the locker room and being
(17:19):
interviewed and he said this, that's.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Why we well right now, and then the goal is,
you know, keep it going.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've maybe even go undefeated. Honestly, So look what he
didn't say we're going undefeated. He didn't say we talk
about going undefeated all the time. He's like, look, honestly,
I think we can go undefeated, but you know, it's
kind of silly, and then they turn around lose to
the Browns in the very next game. Here's their head
(17:49):
coach Matt Lafleur, when he was asked to address the
comment by Walker.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
I just think this league is such a week to
week league and you can never lose sight of that,
and you can't take any moment, any game for granted.
And the goal and I've said it a million times
to you guys, I don't think I've obviously said it
enough to our team. The goal is to go want
to oh every week, and it pisses me off when
we start talking about things outside of the next game,
things that are way down the road, like focus on
(18:15):
keep keep the focus on the present, on the now,
and worry about getting better each and every day.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's fair. Six six fall starts, fourteen overall penalties, that'll
that'll get you beat. So it does, you know, want
to know every week does sound like coach peak, but
it's true. You start looking, you know, you start worrying
about things that are, you know, fifteen weeks away and
you forget that it doesn't matter now because you've you've
lost to the Browns. But you know, guys step in it.
(18:41):
I don't think he's stepped in it that bad, but
it looks worse when you have so many penalties and
you look so asleep and get beaten by a team
that I think most people would say is inferior in
terms of top to bottom talent and everything else. Didn't
they win the WNBA championship last year?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
They beat the Links and then they had a first
round exit. I don't, I don't get it. I think
the coach, the whole coaching situation the WNBA is different
from any other sport. I mean, I'm just going off
what the Fever did where they had their prior coach
and then they're like, now you got the playoffs, we're
gonna get something better.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, but I mean she had all kinds.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Sure she has definitely White's great been great for the Fever.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But anyways, yes, uh okay, well uh Jay s dou
you want you wanted to get in on my my
thoughts on the Packers situation.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
No, I wanted to ask you guys about Matt Lafour
because he sounds really aggravated. How much of his aggravation
do you think day to day is that he is
not getting what he had hoped out of his quarterback.
If you kind of take a look at Jordan Love's
strange career as a starter, you know, after four or
(19:55):
five games, you had a prevalent host on this network
saying that he can't play. Then he finishes out the
twenty three season like nobody else. He's the trendy pick
for MVP a year ago, and he underwhelmed. I know
he hadn't thrown like an interception in like nine games
(20:16):
up to this past week, but that was a bad interception,
and the lack of interceptions doesn't speak to his kind
of poor decision making on the way. Do you think
do you think Matt Lafour is frustrated most with his
quarterback at this juncture?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No? Do I think it's frustrating, Yes, But do I
think it's no. I thought his offensive line play was
not good. Fourteen penalties not good? Yeah, I mean, but
you have to know that Jordan Love hadn't had one
of those moments in almost a calendar year. It was
like the first half of the season last year he
(20:55):
kept doing it and that went away. So I again,
I don't think that's the energy behind it. I think
it's that when you watch the tape, it was incredibly
sloppy and you know, you just played well against two
really good teams. Why are we playing to the level
of the Browns. I think that's the annoyance.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'll tell you something that's also happening. And Doug, you
may get a sense of this because you're in the city.
But I do follow pressure well. I do follow reporters
and other people who cover the Packers, and there is
starting to be a narrative of it being difficult to
play quarterback for Matt Lafleur. And I think that that's
(21:32):
an interesting angle with all of this when you consider
how the Aaron Rodgers tenure occurred in Green Bay and
Jordan Love is supposed to be their guy drafted by
this crew. With Matt Lafleur there, then maybe it's not
the easiest to play quarterback in Green Bay right now?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Sure, sure that's fair, And you know, then there's all
the other factors. There's the there's the you know, he
had a wide receiver go down last week, still waiting
for one to get get healthy. No, you know, doesn't
have the time because his offensive line was just getting dominated,
and there's probably unrealistic expectations, not just of him, but
playing for a quarterback. Listen, I guard myself against it
(22:15):
a great deal.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I have a a really talented junior college All American
point guard, and then I have two other point guards
that are very good, a D two kid who I
really like, another junior college D two Junior college All American,
and and then my team captain's like a combo seeking
play point. And even if you go back to last year,
you know one of my my freshman, Ben Tweety, who's
(22:38):
now at Colgate. You know, the guys who pulled me aside, like,
you know, they don't see the game the way you
see the game. I'm just great, But I told them
where the ball needs to go. Make it go there.
It's there, and it's a It's a really hard thing
sometimes when you're like, I know how this is supposed
to operate. Just do what I tell you to do,
and you'll be better because of it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I just think Matt Lafleur a lot of times comes
off as very uptight. And even though you're from the
same coaching tree that Sean McVay was Kyle Shanahan, you're
from that group. I feel that there's he feels seems
more stressed out than say shanahan or McVay.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well me, listen, Shanahan's not easy to play for those quarterbacks. No, okay,
And the same thing with McVeigh. I mean, Derek GoF
took me to the Super Bowl and they were like, yeah,
we're done with him.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Correct. But I think that there's give and take. Like
I think that there's an appreciation of good and bad
which allows you to make those decisions. And I think
with Lafleur at times, just the sense that I get
is that everything is bad, that that everything is now.
I'm not saying saying that you're going to go undefeated
is something that you should accept, but I just I
(23:51):
get the sense that that it's probably not the easiest
to play quarterback because of what he demands and what
he expects. And I think that there there's got to
be some some give and take.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's it's fair. I would also tell you that living
in the area I think there's some pressure. I think
I think that's what this particular rant or whatever or
feeling us about is. Okay, when they traded for Michael Parsons,
people half joking like, all right, and this is our year.
Then they win two games against two good teams, and
(24:25):
now they're convinced this is our year. Now you've got
some young defensive linemen be like, yo, I think we
go undefeated. And so you're sitting there on your mount before,
like we have fourteen penalties, we can't even beat the Browns.
You're talking about being unefeated. You're like perturbed. You're feeling
the pressure of trying to live up to expectations. You
(24:47):
have a new president, remember that. You know Mark Murphy
now he's actually one of my bosses. Now he's the
outgoing Presidency of Policy now who's had policies in charge.
And you know Brian Goodencuntz who pulled off that trade.
Their contracts have not been extended. His contract's not been expended.
I'd say some it's also the pressure. Some it's also pressure.
(25:13):
It stuck out the show here on Fox Sports Radio.
So Jackson Dart has been named the starter for the
New York Football Giants, which, as Dan has pointed out,
kind of weird, like you could have gone with you
if you wanted to give yourself a chance with a veteran,
like yeah, jam is sitting there, why not? But it
does feel like this is the old job saver, right
(25:35):
because if you win a couple of games, they're like, oh,
look what's in the future, and he's the quarterback whisper again,
and oh yeah, by the way, if he makes a
big turnover late, you just go, hey, it's a rookie quarterback,
you know, And we don't even want to start him,
but we do because we just don't have anybody else
but Jackson Dart be named quarterback. When I heard it,
(25:55):
it signified the end of Russell Wilson's football career because
there's just certain things you kind of can't do once
you become Russell Wilson, and being a full time backups
one of those things.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's like cowhurt is never going to be a sidekick
to somebody on a radio or TV show, right, Like,
once you've kind of done that, even as you like
you age out, like it doesn't really work like that,
not that he's aging out. The same thing with Dan Patrick.
You know, Dan's not going to be a part of
somebody else's ensemble cast. He's Dan freaking Patrick. Right. The
(26:30):
problem with being Dan Patrick to problem be Alan Iverson.
You know when when I don't know any MVP to
come over the bench, right, Well, okay, but either you
want to stick in the league or you don't. Russell
Wilson was you know, he two different coaches in Denver.
Seattle was done, Pittsburgh was done, and now the Giants
(26:53):
are done. I think he's done. I think it's done,
and I think he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. You know,
when we stop, we take a breath. Two Super Bowls
won to one part of you know, yeah, he was.
He was, uh, Jalen hurts before Jalen hurts, right, And
I know Jalen runs more than he ran, But it
(27:14):
just the stats didn't. They weren't jaw dropping, but it did.
I've Dan and I have talked about this on and
off air all the time. Every Seahawks game seemed to
be the same right where it would be close, he
wouldn't be playing great, and then he'd the defense skeeme close,
and then late in the game somehow he'd run around,
scrim around and make a play and they'd win the game.
And you're like, how how how are you end up
(27:34):
win the game? He wasn't that good, but his teams win.
I think that's the last we see of him. You know,
maybe this year we'll see him a couple more times.
If Dark gets hurt or he struggles, put him in whatever,
start him a game. I don't know, but I just
don't see it going forward.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Did you guys? You guys remember the final part of
the Giants Chiefs game if.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Russell when he threw the ball out of out of
the end zone, Like, was that three time?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
If it's Russell Wilson's final actions on an NFL field,
The Giants were trailing by two touchdowns, the Giants needed
to score quickly, and he's throwing it out of the
balance pretty much way out of the reach of his
receivers in the end zone. His his last pass is
identified as this incompletion pass incomplete to uh to Robinson,
(28:24):
and that doesn't even come close to summarizing how bad
the pass was. It would be I guess it would
be kind of a fitting ending to these last couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Crazy Dan, do you think he's in the NFL next year.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, I just I don't think he's a starter.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Do you think Russell Wilson sticks around to be somebody's backup?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Why, I don't know. I just I don't think that
that he's ready to call it quits. I think someone
will will want him and bring him along. Yeah, I
just I don't know. I just I don't think that
it ends like this. It may not end great, but
I just don't think not that he's going to have
this response and come back and play great. I think
(29:11):
that it's over, But I just think that there's there's
enough spots in the NFL where that he could serve
as a backup.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I wrote him off, but he's not gonna right back.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I think that yours is way more practical. But I
just don't see him going out like that. He likes
to be Russell Wilson the quarter.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I know. That's why I think he'll be on TV.
I just think he'll be on TV. And as much
as you're like no way, like come on, man, he's
good looking, he's good with a sentence like we we're
all kind of done with you. We call roller eyes
at the Unlimited. But Guys like that always get a
shot on TV. They just do you know Bre's gotten
(29:56):
two shots now, you know quarterback Super Bowl smart, good looking,
married to a super superstar. Yeah, he'll be on DV.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
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(30:39):
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talk about it more in the podcast. I've said this
and I mean it. PTI is the best show, best
(31:00):
sports show on TV. It's really really good. But they
I thought they had a bad moment yesterday, bad moment yesterday.
So Bruce Pearl retires, and I look, I think, Byer,
let me hit you with this. What if I said,
Bruce Pearl is the quintessential college basketball coach from from
this perspective. Okay, like he was. He was a manager
(31:24):
in college for doctor Tom Davis, right, kind of works
his way up. He he uh, he's the He's the
tattletale on Illinois basketball when they were cheating for Deon
Thomas back in the day. Right, then he's the head coaches.
He gets ostra sized and sent to Division two. He's
the head coach of Southern Indiana. They win a national title,
(31:45):
goes to Milwaukee, wins there Sweet sixteen. There, goes to Tennessee,
wins there, but then gets in trouble. Right the NCAA
comes back with Auburn, goes to the Final four twice.
He's on TV. And when I say quintessential, like he's
half car salesman, half snake oil salesman, but of it
is comes from like some genuine joy where he just
a bit of a force multiplier. Right. And he's quirky,
(32:10):
he's glib, he has great one liners, he's always smiling.
He's Jewish, but he's promoting Jesus within his players. Like
he's kind of tries to do everything and somehow it
all works. Right. That's when you think of college basketball coach.
There those type of big personalities that you're like, I
know he's a good guy, but a good guy, bad guy, shady, something,
(32:30):
I don't know, but I like him there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes, I got to know him a little just when
he was at Milwaukee because I was working in Madison
at that time. Not on a personal level, just over
the phone, and he made you feel like you were
the most important thing at that point. Very welcoming had
his home phone number, the whole deal. So very yes.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, So here's God.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But I was just gonna say, yeah, but ask any
Illinois fan on what they thought of Bruce Pearl and no,
no question, I'll tell you differently.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, here's Mike Wilbon when they did Happy Trails for
Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Happy Trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl. The Auburn coach
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletics
department in his place. The school gave a five year
deal to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He
has had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which
made the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen.
His decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did
(33:27):
the same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not
run for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Tony.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
and I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Really, I would liked him. He was such a great guest.
He were on the other side on him.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
It was really, really really that was one of the
oddest exchanges ever. Like happy Trails, you always say something
nice about like, Nah, didn't like him. He's divisive because
he's become he's become a mega guy. That's really what
it is.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
That's what it is, Doug Nobody.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Also one last thing about Bruce Pearl as he's retiring,
Nobody sweated through a suit jacket like Bruce Pearl. Guy I.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Second Olahoma State. I sweated, but not suit jacket.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
What about Sean Miller?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He is also Sean Miller is a small sweat team.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
But Bruce was a Tennessee. There was one day where
he was wearing like the all orange and.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
He was light gray suit, sweat through it. Let's get
to the press and Dan byer.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
The press.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Here's the thing. I'm not a maga guy. Everybody listens
to the show knows that. But like, he's not divisive.
He's in Auburn, Alabama. What do you think his bas is, like,
what are we doing? I don't know. Felt weird for
for Wilbond to have an opinion on something for once.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
In Norman, Oklahoma, Doug, they are not happy after hearing
the news that quarterback John Mattire is out indefinitely. He
will have surgery tomorrow in Los Angeles. Crazy tore pair
a right hand injury now. Pete Thamil of ESPN says
it's a broken bone in his right hand that he
suffered in the first quarter of their win against Auburn.
(35:10):
He finished the game on Saturday. Michael Hawkins Junior will
start against Kent State on October fourth. That's their next
game Texas at the Cotton Bowl. Red River Rivalry coming
up October eleventh.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
But by the way. The big story is oklham State
firing Mike Gundy. The little story is, well, their starting
quarterback transferring from TCU. You know, with the now interim
head coach at Oklahoma State, right offense quarter quarterback together,
he got hurt three series into his career. Mattier, his
offense quarter came over from Washington State. Now he's hurt.
(35:42):
A fast Matteer has been the best quarterback in college football.
I can't believe he's hurt. That suck. Honestly, that sucks
for the suitors.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We talked about Mike Gundy being out at Oklahoma State.
We just talked about Jackson Dart replacing Russell Wilson as
the Giants quarterback. We didn't talk about the Titans making
a change as head coach Brian Callahan is giving up
play calling duties. Quarterbacks coach bo Heart agree will now
call place for the zero to three Titans. Tights are bad,
they are, and it feels like it's a desperate move.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
This regime in the front office did not bring in
Brian Callahan, who's only in year number two. But you
wonder on if you're starting to feel the pressure.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
New stadium is the state of mixt year.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh No, I think it's a couple of years away.
The Bills is next year, but I don't think. I
know they're in the process of building the Titan Stadium,
but I don't think it's next year. Don't quote me
on that. Major League Baseball's Competition Committee has approved the
automated Balls and Strikes Challenge system for the twenty twenty
sixth season. It'll be there all season long next year.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's so good. ABS is so good. I mean, it's
really really that simple. I can't believe it took this long.
It worked in the miners, now they have in the majors.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Good and Doug One other final notes WNBA after a
championship appearance, New York Libert fired at coach Sandy Broundello
today and the new Nissan Stadium will open in twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Can I quote you on that one?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I just looked it up, so now you can.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And that is the press.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Now you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 8 (37:17):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So you can download the podcast and listen. But the
basic point is, like, I don't understand what the need
to fire a guy three games in with a new
regime is. But whatever this is The Gottlieb Show. Download
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