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July 27, 2018 • 34 mins

It's the Best of the Doug Gottlieb Show LIVE from Los Angeles Rams training camp! Doug is joined by Rams wide receiver Brandin Cooks, defensive back Aqib Talib, head coach Sean McVay and wide receiver Cooper Kupp. What does Cooks think about Sammy Watkins getting a big deal before him? What does Talib think led to Malcolm Butler's benching by the Patriots in the Super Bowl? Does McVay think the Rams are the new Kings of the NFC West? And did Kupp really call Doug 'Dave'? Find out the answers to all of that - and so much more - in this Best Of edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Dug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. This is Doug Gottlieb Show here live
at Rams Camp, Fox Sports Radio. And a guy who
one of the key editions we talked a little bit
about joins me. Now he just signed a new contract,
so he will be a Ram for the foreseeable future.
It's Brandon Cooks of the l A Rams. What's up?

(00:22):
Thanks for having me? Okay, so, um, what let's go
back a year ago. Okay, let's go back a year
ago and you're transition from your New Orleans when you
were in New Orleans? What do you think of the Rams?
This is a year and a half ago. Um? You know, well,
you know that takes me back a little bit. Uh,
to be honest, Um, also focused on being in New Orleans,

(00:46):
but they weren't like a team that anybody would think
of in terms of a championship team. Right, Like you
go back a year and a half ago, it was
a different regime, a different coaching staff, a completely different
mentality like it's I was just pointing out how amazing
it is we here a year ago and no one
knew if golf could play. People are wondering if they
could be a head coach and how all this stuff

(01:07):
would work. And now there's thoughts of Super Bowl overwhelming
favorite in the NFC West. Being in the league, that's
kind of gotta be amazing how quickly it's it's changed
and turned over here. Well, I think that shows, uh,
you know, as far as this league on what one
year to the next can do. Uh, you know what
a couple of great editions in our coach Um and
then Jared playing well last year and now that we're

(01:28):
just continuing to b you know, we gotta build off
of last year and can't just expect anything to come
to all Right, the last time we saw you was
in the Super Bowl. That was a really rough shot
of you where where you get knocked out of the game.
What's that like to go through? Where you put so
much in you win the a f C Championship, you
go to the Super Bowl and through no fault to
your own, your Super Bowl ended early and it really

(01:50):
hurt your teams and like you guys didn't even punt
that game. But you don't get to see the end
of the Super Bowl, get a chance to win the
game at the end, you know, It's all a part
of the game. Unfortunately happened to have happened on the
uh you know, biggest stage. But at the end of
the day, you know, you take that, you use it
as few and to come back stronger next year. It's
all a part of it. Well, you came here because
they wanted to make you a long term part of

(02:12):
of their team. What's it mean to you to you
haven't played a game yet, you just started practicing, but
you already got the deal done with Less so that
you got your new contract and that's not something you
have to worry about this season. You know, that's a blessing.
You know that just from coach on his belief in me,
uh you know Mr Cronky and Kevin dim Off and
Tony and less Neat. I mean to be able to
get that done speaks wonders um and I'm just extremely

(02:34):
thankful and overwhelmed with gratitude. The other part is you
get to work with awesome coaches and awesome quarterbacks everywhere
you've been, right like you're in New Orleans and you
got Sean and you have Drew Brees. Then you go
and play play with arguably the Goat and Tom Brady,
And now you're here and you've got McVeigh drawn up,
drawn up all this different stuff for you and Jared
Jared Goff, what what about Brady? Did you learn? Uh?

(02:57):
Did you learn or did you uh that kind of
that that kind of changed your perspective in that one
year year in New England. I will have to just
say his attention to detail, uh, you know when it
comes to the game. I know that's such a broad statement,
but I mean from everything that he does, not just
on the field, but off the field, from the way
that he eats, the way that he sleeps, the way
that he takes care of his body. Uh. To see

(03:18):
him doing that and going into year nineteen as a
young guy, that helped me a lot early in my career.
So I can get on that on that pace sooner
than You're not gonna show up with the dad bot
that he has, right Like he's got he's got limited
muscle tale. You're not gonna show up be like, hey, guys, listen,
it works for Brady, it's gonna work for me. No.
I mean, he's at the end of the day, nineteen
years going in, he's the ghost. So he can show up. However,
we want as long as you can keep producing. I

(03:39):
know it's early. I know you guys just started camp,
but what are your thought when you look at this offense? Uh,
what's your kind of initial impression of what you guys
are throwing out there? You know, day one, you know,
we come out here, um, you know, get the bugs out.
But at the end of the day, building off of
what we did in the spring, not necessarily starting over
is what our coach uh teaches us and coaches to us.

(04:00):
And so at the end of the day, that's what
it's all about. You know, we're coming together, you know,
you know, making our weaknesses our strength and making our
strength even stronger. You know, you're a guy who you
take the top off the defense. You've got incredible speed,
but I know you want to be more than just
that right Like, but Tavan's gone, which means you feel
that role. There's a lot of different ways in which
they can they can use you. How can you take
your game from what you've done so far in your

(04:22):
career in NOLA in New England to hear and continue
to grow? I would just say that keep building off
of what I've done over the past years. Um, and
you know, making this year my best year and however
that comes about, that's trust and coach uh getting on
the pages Jared Um and just fitting in with this
offense that's already has been special. Brandon Cooks showing us
in the Dug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Ready no

(04:44):
longer Patriots. You can tell us what happened with Malcolm Butler.
Come on, come on, come on, dude, I don't come on.
I don't know. I mean, was he was he? Was
he overweight? Was he drinking when he was in the hospital?
Like did you know? I don't know. Did you know
he wasn't gonna play? I don't know. Oh, come, you're
not in New England. You can't tell us. He won't
to Belichick won't tell us. Nobody else will tell us.

(05:04):
Somebody's gotta tell us. I can't be one uh three
teams in three years. You're buying a house here in
southern California, right because you're staying. You just sign a
contracts and you're gonna buy a house, right. You know
whatever my financial people telling me to do. Um, your
financial people will tell you. By by real estate in
southern California, maybe high, but it's it's only going up.

(05:25):
Welcome to Southern California. I wish you nothing but health
and success this year, and thanks for joining. Thank you
very much. Brandon Cook's course star wide receiver Saints Patriots
and now just on a new contract after he's been
traded over here with the l A Rams. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Keith to leave

(05:47):
joining us here on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Welcome Southern California. Thank you, thank you, thank
you man. It's a pleasure to be here. Um Uh,
Jason Brad gets hurt in the conditioning test. It's crazy,
You're right crazy man. See everybody needs to just cancel
their conditioning test. You never know what had happened, You
never know what could happen. Man, just do away with them.

(06:09):
So it's everybody's You've been on a several different teams,
douse everybody's conditioning test the same. No, every every every
conditioning test is different. Actually every team I've been on,
every every test would have been different. Which is the easiest. Uh,
with a vets had a pretty nice condition test here.
What you guys have to do. We had a verse oclimba.
We didn't even have to run, so it was on

(06:30):
a verse o climate. Man, the vets we had it
was pretty tough, but it was it was the verse
o climate or it wasn't running it. Yeah, it's not running,
so there's no chance of planting turn out and getting
hurt and hearing something popping and ending your season. Exactly. Yeah,
So let's listen. This is not your first time around,
but it is your first time around UM with a
young head coach who one year in has I think
impressed a lot of people. Obviously, you get your old

(06:52):
defensive coordinator in Wade Phillips, a chance to work with.
What's your initial thoughts? I know you guys just got
here to camp. What's your initial thoughts on the rams? Uh?
We work hard, We work hard, man, So we take
this thing one day at the time and uh put
this put to put all this work where we that
we're doing. Man, We'll put this work together and we'll
see how it turned out. I think the one concerned
to outsiders, not insiders, but to outsiders is man, you

(07:14):
got a lot of you Marcus and domin can sue.
A lot of big personalities, a lot of guys on
one year deals are expiring deals. Uh what give me
a sense of how all those personalities are gonna blend
together to form to form the kind of defense you
need to get to a Super Bowl? H Man? You
you you talk about our names, and then, uh, that's

(07:34):
just the stuff that the what the media portrays. Man.
You you go ask Bill Belichick and guys like Devin mccordy,
what kind of teammate I was? You gonna ask guys
like what I'm saying, Uh, DJ Johnson and and and
Eric Barry what kind of teammate Marcus Peters was? Then
you really see what I'm saying, how we was in
the locker room. So, man, all of us is one
thing we've got to common. We've been great teammates, you know.

(07:55):
So we've been great locker room guys. So the media
sees one thing, Man, they don't see how we vibe
as a team. You you, like you said, you've been
in some great locker rooms, some great defense. As you
mentioned the Patriots. You mentioned that obviously the Denver broncos
Um in terms of the level of athleticism, the balance
between having a front seven and having a back end.
Again very very early on. But does this and without

(08:17):
Aaron Donald, who is arguably the best defensive player in
the league, eventually, I'm sure you're gonna sprinkle him in,
does this? Does this have the looks on paper or
to your eyes, to your skilled eyes of the type
of defense that can dominate a league on paper? Is there?
But I mean the paper don't play, you know. So
that's what that's what t is was for. That's what
this training camp is for. We got a mess as

(08:38):
a team, and uh, come out here and work every day.
See how it's are not you'd like to get those
prime looks. I know you'd like to. You start licking
your chops. You got golf. He's a young pupp he
thinks he thinks he had a great year. I know
you want to get out there and and and kind
of level him out, level that confidence out you at
this point in your career. Are you excited about training
camp or he's just trying to kind of get through it,

(09:00):
not getting hurt and get to the season. Oh I'm excited, man. Uh,
It's it's important. It's it's super important. If you if
you're planning on being successful in February. So that's where
a lot of the work is put in. Once you
get to the season, I mean this game plan, and
that's when you're trying to stay healthy and practice and stuff.
But it's go time out here right now. So I'm
definitely excited to put his work in. Brandon Cooks wouldn't

(09:20):
tell us your a former Patriot? Come on, tell us.
Do you know what happened to Malcolm Butler? How's he
not gonna play in the Super Bowl? I don't know, man,
I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know
what happened, man, but hey, he did something wrong. Can
you believe that? Though? Like I mean, I guess you
can because you you understand Bill Belichick? But two in
the Super Bowl sit down, when your top cover corners
down and not not playing him, That's that's the Patriots

(09:44):
in Malcolm Butler. I don't know, you know, akeep believe?
Joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio,
there is a lot of talk about the anthem thing.
Has it been addressed so far with the team? Uh?
Now we focus on football, man, We're trying to win
some games this year, man, So we're worried about that
when it come up. You mentioned focus on football. What
is it like when some guys are getting these contracts

(10:05):
and you don't have aaron? How does that? How do
you maintain the focus on it when some of the
talk at least is about guys getting paid and guys
getting their deals redone. That's not our job to worry
about that. That's that's the front office and errand his
age and his representatives is their job to do that.
So we all got a very important job to do here.
And if you ain't focused on it, you somebody will

(10:27):
take it from you, you know. So we're worried about
our own jobs. What about wade system allows you to thrive?
I already know it, already noticed system. So I can
just come out and play fast. I don't really gotta think.
Uh you make a call, I know what to do
and I can just play fast. I don't really have
to think. So that's the main thing that I mean.
It's gotta be gotta be great for you, right like
you just your plug and play. Already know there's a

(10:47):
there's a continuum right on one side, there's athleticism and
On another side, there's football like Q, and you've always
been a guy with super high football I Q. But
as you get, as you get further along in your career,
you're not gonna have that same burst that you had.
How do you? What have you done in the offseason
to get your body so that you can get the
most out of it while your football, like you is

(11:07):
kind of off the charts with all these years. Have
you changed your training if you like you know, Brady
does this flexibility stuff. If you what have you done
in this offseason? I just I still with trying, man,
I still keep my same resument. Really a lot more rehab.
You know, your a little your little older, so you
get a little more sore. So I start off with prehab,
do my workout, and I do rehab after. You know
what I'm saying. So I say that's the biggest difference, man,

(11:29):
Just a lot more time in the training room. I
keep to leave joining us on the Dug Gotlips Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. It is in training camp.
Is there anything in terms of off the field that
brings a team together? Like? Is there something? Because you've
been through defenses and you know that you work better
when you guys are all a tight unit. Is there
something that you guys can do. Is there something you

(11:51):
can say or something that you've learned through your travels
that makes some defenses tighter. Just do stuff together, man,
Go out to dinner, you know, hang out of somebody house.
You know what I'm saying. Just go to games together.
Just really be friends and then and then you would
be closer as a group. You're like Kobe, like Lebron
coming to town. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I'm trying
to find season tickets right now, but ain't it ain't
turning out too good. I would just tell you this.

(12:13):
You get to the Super Bowl, the tickets would be
very easy to come by. You'd be amazed at how
quickly on the Florida I'm not trying to sit like
in the family section. I want to be on the
wood and this is this is this ain't like Denver. Now,
Like getting down on the on the wood in Denver,
it's not not not difficult getting down there. You gotta see.
You gotta get to know Jack, you gotta get to
know justin timber Lake. You gotta get to know one

(12:34):
of the Kardashians. Like these are the things that you
have to do if you want to get down there
super closely. You see those dudes sweating, and I'm tying
to I'm learning, man, I'm learning. Man. I try to
get season tickets. Man, tell when it was gone. So
I'm looking at road three road fo right now? Keep
to leave row three Row four would would be disappointing
for for you, but for everybody else it would it
would be a dream. Are you a Jordan guy or

(12:55):
you a Lebron guy? I'm both, man, it's a it's
an error. You know, Jordan's the best his era. I
think Lebron is the best his eror so the game changes,
so I'm both. Okay, who's the who's the goat cornerback?
Is it is? It is Deon the goat cornerback? Easy? Yeah, okay?
So who's the goat quarterback? Quarterback? Who got the most range? Frady?

(13:18):
Who got the most records? I would uh either Brady Manning?
Brady Manning and is paying man in time? But you
you look, you played with and against um and you obviously,
so you know those two. What about Aaron Rodgers in
terms of my thought has always been like, man, Aaron
Rodgers checks a lot of boxes except the number of rings.

(13:39):
Is he actually a better quarterback than the other two? Uh?
I don't know. I think Aaron Rodgers still he's still
building that legacy. Man. Once once he gets to your
sixteen and fifteen like those guys, and I think you
can be in a conversation, but he still got room
to work. Okay, Maybe here's a smarter way to ask
a question. Ask the question when look you. We've had

(14:00):
you on a couple of times and you talked about
watching film and knowing what's coming before it's coming. Is
there a guy that you feel like? Man, he's a
lot better than the media things he is because I've
gone against him as a quarterback, as a cornerback, and
that dude is really really good and he doesn't get
the respect he deserves. Uh. I can't think of one
on on the gate? Can you can you think of

(14:22):
one that you own that you you see him across
the way You're like, I got this dude, I want
to say it on the air. I guess you would
think one definitely, But can you can you give us
a hint? You can you give us a region? I
might play him and then the football and guys might
you know, make him tear me up because I was
talking noise on the air. So I don't play like that.
Who do you? Who do you like to not not

(14:42):
and not and not in no disrespectful terms. You like
to talk? You you love to talk when you play.
That's part of the position. Is you gotta you gotta
you know, you have to walk it like you talk it.
Who do you like to line up against on a Sunday,
have have a little chat with and matchup against. I like,
I like brains different to the table, you know, so
like playing against all anybody make you laugh? Anybody's like, damn,

(15:04):
you gotta you gotta stop because you're actually making me laugh.
I mean, I don't know. I don't really don't remember
the conversation after the game. It's just, you know, this
is this fun while we play. Okay, So here's your
job for training camp. Find out what happened to Malcolm Butler.
That's all we want to know. Everybody America wants to
know if you're the guy that can break the story.
Visit go visit. Uh they're not you can't you. I

(15:25):
don't know if you hurt like like he doesn't even
he doesn't even he doesn't even want to talk about
last season, let alone what happened to Malcolm Butler. I mean,
you know those guys, I know, but but you have
no tie to them anymore. They're not gonna cut you
out of the will. I don't want to talk about
last season and then nothing neither. I just want to
talk about l A and and putting these days together.
It is pretty cool though that like and I don't

(15:45):
I'm not saying this is the last year, but for
you to end up here in l A, to start
in Tampa, worked work through those stops, and end up
in Los Angeles what what will be a partially redone
stadium this year, fully redone Stadium the following year, and
and then that incredible complexion in three years. This is
pretty cool thing to have a chance to go to
the super Bowl with this team. Definitely dope, man. Good

(16:05):
energy in the city, good energy in our building, and
uh a lot of hard working guys in our business.
So man, uh we put this thing together right, man,
we might have a chance. Welcome to l A. Thanks
so much for joining us. Thank Fox Sports Radio has
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of our shows at Fox sports radio dot Com and
within the I Heart Radio app Let's just get right
after it. Joining me is the now second year head

(16:28):
coach of the Rams who went to the playoffs and
uh really kind of change the dynamic in the NFC West.
Shan McVeigh joins us. Here your second training camp last year, Dude,
you were like a flat line and there was no
super excitement. You were focused. It was like you were
meant to be here. Can you be honest with us,
You had to be a little bit nervous last year
first meeting with the team. Oh absolutely, You know you

(16:50):
still get nervous in a good way. You know, it's excitement.
But I think it's amazing to think how much has
gone on in in the last year. We were just
sitting here a year ago when we got here and
know here here we are starting our second season. A
lot of excitement, a lot of exciting acquisitions that we made.
But you know, I think our guys do appreciate that
kind of one day at a time mindset. But it's
been good to get going in now day two here

(17:10):
we go. It's it's crazy, though. We I talked about
this two hours ago when we started the juxtaposition of
last year when you're thirty one, hadn't been a head
coach Jared Goff, a lot of people on the fence
as to whether or not he could play, and then
you know, could the offensive line protect? Could you did
you have the skill position players? Now this year, not

(17:31):
only are people all in on Jared Goff and obviously
the team all in on on Todd Gurley, but the
acquisitions that are made, the and Dominican sues, the Marcus Peters,
the keep too leaves Um. I mean, every everyone seems
to include in front office going all in. There's huge expectations.
How does how do you change your message, your management

(17:51):
of this team, your management of those expectations in the
early days of camp. Well, I think in terms of
our process and kind of the standards that we want
to establish him maintain with the things that we focus on, Doug,
they'll remain the same. But certainly it is a little
bit different in terms of the expectations that that people
the outside sources have. But I think our guys have
done a good job of not really letting those outside
influences affect the way that we approach our everyday behavior

(18:14):
in terms of how we operate, and that's really how
we meet, how we practice. Uh. I think there's a
there's a confidence, there's a swagger, but there's a humility
and understanding that there's thirty one other really good teams
in this league and really good coaches and players, and
we got to do a great job putting ourselves in
a position to be ready to ride when September ten
comes around. I know you don't want to look back
too much on last year because it's about this year.
It's a different team, a different year. But I gotta

(18:36):
point out that ask Weepon of the Seattle Seahawks, that
was that was that that was a change, right like
the Rams even before, you had always been really competitive
with the Seahawks, but no one had gone into Seattle
and done that to the Seahawks and just I mean
they they surrendered to you. How big do you think
that was for the mentality of this organization, not just

(18:56):
saying that we're good enough to win this division, but
we're we're dethroning the team that consistently has dominated this division. Well,
I think that was a big game for us last year,
but I think we still have such a huge amount
of respect for the Seattle Seahawks, that consistency at which
they've really competed and done such a good job under
Coach Carroll's leadership. And you know, really, you know, the
Cardinals are gonna be really tough, and and you look

(19:17):
at all the excitement around the forty niners, and I
have a whole lot of respect for Kyle Shannon and
Steve Wilkes with with the Cardinals. So it's really tough.
But I thought that game last year was instrumental in
terms of when it took place, what we were able
to do. I thought it was a great example of
guys kind of playing their best when we needed it.
And you know, we talked about that all the time.
Reference in coach wouldn't with achieving competitive greatness, And that
was certainly a fun game for us. But you know,

(19:39):
you know, as an athlete, you know everything can kind
of change where it was a good day for us,
but you play that same team the next week, and
you've got to find a way to bring it in
and understand that each game is kind of its own
entity and really each play in this league. What do
you think guys like golf learned from the playoffs, because
it is it's a higher level of football, and the
Falcons came in a team that had been the Super
Bowl and that were they were playing their best FOOTBA

(20:00):
at the end of the year. What can be taken
away from that disappointing loss to the Falcons at home, Well,
I think anytime you get a chance to play in
an atmosphere and environment like that, with a game of
that magnitude, you know, you always want to do a
good job. You know, it starts with me. You know,
I would think I made a lot of mistakes in
terms of putting our players in the right spots. But
but but again, when you really look at, you know,
what we did, you know, kind of look at as
our football philosophy, Doug. You know, it always starts with it.

(20:22):
It's all about the ball and other than points. In
this league, when you look at the history over the
last handful of years, there's no greater indicator of wins
and losses than turnovers and and taking care of it.
And you know, we lost the turnover battle zero two
and against a great football team. That's gonna be tough.
But I think he took a lot of good things
really from the entirety of the season, but especially that
playoff game. And uh, that's what you like so much
about him, He's really coachable. Well, the front office obviously

(20:44):
reacted to what was I think a weakness and some
kinds of injury and just some kind of personnel in
that defensive backfield. Right, you go out and you get
Marcus Peters, you go out and get a keep to leave,
and of course you've entrusted Wade Phillips to run your defense.
How much does it change this team that you bring
in two players of that caliber to the back end
of your team. Well, I think in terms of just

(21:05):
the overall philosophy in the way that Wade likes to
run his defenses, there's a premium on playing a lot
of you know, man coverage and then some zone match
principles where those guys are asked to play on an
island or asked to match up with individual players. And
I think when you just look at the course of
these guys careers, Uh, they take the ball away, you know,
they get their hands on the ball, they get it
back for the offense, and and those guys are hard
to find. And I thought it was a great example

(21:26):
of Less doing a nice job being able to acquire
those players via trade. You go getting the Dominican sue
and he's released by the Dolphins, and and those were
things that when you looked at it, which Tremaine Johnson
hitting free agency, lose him to the Jets, Cavon Webster
tears his achilles, We were able to resign to kel
Robe who did a great job for US franchise, tag
LaMarcus Joyner, you feel really good about John Johnson. So

(21:46):
those two are gonna be really instrumental pieces. And Sam
Shields as a player too, that has had a lot
of success in this league. That unfortunately with the concussions,
but he's back and he looks really good as well.
He Aaron Donalds in in the conversation, the best defensive
player in football, he's not here. How does that? How
do you handle game planning, putting together defense, putting together

(22:07):
a team with the unknown of when, let's just I
would assume he's going to be here, but the unknown
of when he's gonna ride. It's a good question, you know,
And and it's something that we kind of dealt with
a little bit last year. So it's it's been something
that that we've had to do. We'd love Aaron to
be here. We're proactively working to find that solution. But
in the meantime, you know, the guys that are here,
they're doing a good job working. Bill Johnson, our defensive

(22:28):
line coach, does an excellent job developing depth, uh, and
you can see some guys really stepping up and continuing
to get better. But when he comes back, if if
that date does come, you know, we'll certainly all be
excited and welcoming back with open arm. How do you
communicate with him? Do you text with them? You stay
in touch with him? Oh? Yeah, yeah, we keep in touch,
you know. And when with some of those things, Doug,
there's so many nuances and levels involved in the negotiations.

(22:50):
You know, I just want to make sure he's doing good,
how's he feeling? And we kind of let the agents
and uh, you know, the powers that be kind of
discussed those types of things. We certainly want to try
to figure it out. And I know our people feel
like actually the same way, and his representation has been
good to deal with and hopefully we'll find a conclusion.
All right. I think a lot of people know that. Um, obviously,
at thirty two years old, you started this business with

(23:11):
the Tampa Buccaneers, and of course your first game this
year is against John Gruden. Not only did you coach
under John Grumen, you coach and his brother, right and
with the Tuskers. Yeah, and I could be in Jay
in Washington and it was right. So you're like all
Gruden all the time. Um, But now he hadn't been
in the league for a decade. On the other hand,
he's he's been going around studying everybody and watching everybody,

(23:33):
watching all these players. What's that gonna be like for you? Well,
it's pretty surreal, just because I couldn't be more grateful
for the Gruden family. You know, a lot of the
opportunities I've gotten in this league are are thanks to them,
and it goes back to my grandfather and their dad,
Jim Gruden Senior, working together with the forty niners, and um,
you know, feel really fortunate to even be in this role.
In a large part of that is due to the
mentorship that bo j and John provided. You know, he

(23:56):
stayed up on the game and uh, he's grinding, he's working.
Those guys will be ready to go, but it'll certainly
be It'll be a fun night, we know it will
be a great atmosphere in the black Hole on Monday night,
little little cradle of coaches, mine of Ohio ties, all
the Ohio stuff. I know people are gonna hit you
up for give me your best, give me your best?
Do you do? You don't have You've lost some of
the Ohio right with the accent. You don't do the

(24:17):
Gruden like so many others do the Gruden. I don't
think you know. I've heard some people tell me I
have an accent and some don't, But I don't. I
don't really know if I really do. Okay, Gurley signs
a new deal. We're having this discussion about the dynamics
of Todd Gurley in comparison to some of the other
running backs you work with with some of the best
in the league. What what elevates Todd Gurley's Is it

(24:38):
the ability to catch the ball as well as run? It?
Is it what he does in pass protection that we
don't see, you watch film, you work with him on
a daily basis. What allows Todd Gurley to be viewed
as one of those special backs so much so that
you guys have given him that long term deal. Yeah,
I think it's kind of all those things you mentioned, Doug,
the biggest thing is is you know, there's really nothing
that you can't do with him. He he can contribute
in the past game, He's gonna be aid in protection,

(25:00):
understands where he fits. You can utilize him on any
run scheme. And I think those types of guys that can,
you know, create one play drives are really hard to find.
You look at him have an eight yard touchdown run
against the Titans. You look at him go fifty seven
against the Seahawks, so on just a run. So anytime
that this guy gets the ball in his hands, he's
capable of taking at the distance. And and those types
of explosive playmakers that are also really impressive above the

(25:23):
neck and can do a variety of things. You don't
find guys like that last thing. Jared Goff had an
outstanding sophomore season for you last year. But as we've
all come to learn watching and as you know better
than any of us, Lee gets a book on you league.
Lee says, Oh, this is what he likes. This is
his favorite route, This is his favorite hot this is
his favorite thing to do. What what's the next step

(25:45):
when when you break down tape, which I'm sure you
spent most of your offseason doing What's the next step
for Jared Goff? I think it's just continuing to take
ownership of our offense. We always talk about the quarterback
being an extension of the coaching staff, understanding the intent
behind all the play calls, and that's where we've got
to do a great job as coaches as well. Knowing
that we have put a year tape out there, We've
got to be mindful and cognizant of our self scout

(26:07):
and making sure that we're mixing up some of our
tendencies putting our players in the right spots. But in
terms of taking steps in the right direction, Uh just
kind of naturally uh easing himself for really just becoming
a leader. Because of who he is and how he
handles himself on a day to day basis, He's really
been a joy to be around. Is he Is he
different in terms of his confidence because sometimes you know
that first year can beat you up. Well, is he

(26:28):
different in terms of his confidences? He is kind of
how he carries himself. I would say that one of
the things that's always been impressive about Jared, as he's
always had an even killed demeanor disposition even after the
rookie year. I didn't sense that is that he didn't
have a lot of confidence and belief in himself. And
I think that's kind of what really sets him apart,
is that mental toughness that he does have. Is that
you know, he's really unfazed by kind of the outside

(26:49):
influences and kind of what things are said about him.
He's always had that confidence last year. Anytime you're able
to have some success and draw on that, it can't
help but make you feel good. But he's got an
appreciation for how he's got to earn it every single
day and how many things are involved with the nuances
of the position. But he's doing a great job right now. Ma, congratulations.
Eleven wins, playoffs and all the expectations are all because

(27:10):
of the job that you and your staff were able
to do helping turn this group around. We wish you
nothing but health and success getting ready for the season.
We'll see you on Monday night in Oakland. I appreciate it, Doug,
good to see man. That's Sean McVeigh joining us, head
coach of the l A Rams. Were on the road
today live at Rams training camp. When you're on the road.
Everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk. People could
get hurt or killed. Yeah, you're welcome. That was a

(27:30):
great interview. I appreciate that you could get arrested and
kur huge legal expenses or even lose your job if
you If you think driving drunk is no big deal,
you couldn't be more wrong. Drive sober or get pulled over.
It is the Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What
we're gonna do instead of going to break for any
of our stations nationwide, We're pleased to be joined by
a guy who was named after his parents. Uh, former dog.

(27:52):
That's really what what we learned from Cooper Cup last year.
Cooper Cup, who is the second leading receiver in terms
of receptions, leading receiver in terms of yards U joins
us now on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
How are you, man? I'm good. What's what's just like
year year two? Year one, you were everybody's everybody was
paying attention to you. We heard how productive you could be.

(28:13):
Year two. What's the feeling like going into training camp?
I think there's just a little bit more of just
a calming feeling. You know, you know, you know what
to expect coming in here. Um what just even down
to the terms of what the schedule is, and um
having a graft now of the offense, and um the
guys that you are spending twelve hours a day with
two and um, you know it really just feels like,
you know, we're coming out here, were just coming out

(28:34):
of playing foot both a bunch of my friends. Now,
so you know that's how you that's how you love
playing football. How do you maintain not kind of the
same hunger and drive when everybody's been telling you how
great you are? Uh? Because last year is about proving yourself.
Last year's like why you play a little lower level
of football, Like how you put up good numbers. But
let's see you can do in the NFL. Now you
do in the NFL. How do you maintain that? Stam,

(28:55):
I want to prove it to you a kind of mentality.
I just don't think that that's it should never change
what anyone else says about you or your game. I mean,
if you're not driven by your own belief, in your
own expectations and you I just don't think you're gonna
survive playing this game. So That's why I kind of
fall back on your My expectations for myself are always
gonna be higher than anyone's expectations for me. It's it's
it's very early in camp. Obviously you guys have had

(29:16):
O T A s. But you know, to leave, he's
gonna talk a little bit to you. You have you
are you do you? How do you handle that when
dude start start chattering at you. That's just it's just
part of it. It's just part of you. Got a
few guys over there they call you sunshine? What what? What?
What do they start throwing at you? Last year in
the NFL? Nah, you know, I I try to turn
my turn my ears off to all that stuff. You know,
I really just don't listen to it. So what you

(29:39):
learn if you could say, like, look, we talked a
little bit after it was well after the Seattle drop
in the end zone. Of course you guys went up
and thump Seattle and paid them back. Uh, there are
other couple of little things. But what did you learn
when you take away you look back on your own
tape of season one in the NFL, would you learn,
uh that you you've gotta be ready to move on

(29:59):
you in this league, You've got seven days to turn
around from Sunday to Sunday. And if you aren't able
to move past your mistakes, learn from him, rectify them,
and move forward to that next game and preparing for
that the best that you can. You're just gonna get
caught up and fall farther behind. So the biggest thing
was moving forward. There's there's gotta be something about And
obviously there's a change. Tavan's gone, Brandon Cooks is in

(30:20):
his place, another speedy guy, but seems to be a
better wide receiver. Uh. You know Robert Woods, his lack
of health I think obviously helped you get more balls.
What's your thoughts on but no Sammy this year? It
feels like the team is coming around to Hey, this
is You're a guy we want to build around long term.
What are your thoughts on the wide receiving corps now
as opposed to the one we saw last year in

(30:41):
ramps uniforms. Oh, I've got a ton of respect for
Sammy Um as a ball player, as a as a
man off the field as well. Um, but very excited
for sixteen million a year. Wow, But but Brandon coming
in this year? Um? Just in terms of the way
he's meshed into this team, how he's just from day
one challenge our room to just to step it up

(31:02):
and really just helping UM lift guys up around him
to UM and the attitude he takes into this thing.
It really speaks volumes to him as a as a
in terms of his character and um just raising guys up,
not just in football, but just as uh, you know,
everything goes on behind the scenes as well. Cooper Cup
joining us in the Doug Gatlin Show on Fox Sports Radio.
We talked with coach mc fee just moments ago about

(31:23):
Jared Goffin. Haveing met him before during the draft, talk
with him last year here, talk with him at the
Super Bowl, hung out with him a little bit when
he was in Orange County in the summer. Like he's
kind of always the same guy he's He doesn't he
doesn't seem to get too high, he doesn't seem to
get too low. Like is is that just an act?
Or is that really how he is? He really a
lot more energetic and rambunctious like or is that really

(31:45):
how he is? No, That's just that's who he is.
I remember the first time I met him. We went
to UH barbecue out with our agent, my first very
first time medium. He was the exact same person then
as he is today. UM and Uh, you know, I
think that's a testament to UM to him. I mean
just as a football player, you know, you you go
through a lot of stuff as a quarterback, highs and lows,

(32:05):
and Hurnaby will keep that even keel um and just
be Jared Goff through all of that. I think is
UH is a huge thing for us. All right, So
what's it like to walk in the locker room you
see and Dominican Sue and you know he's on your
side down And I'm not complaining at all or would
way rather him being our locker room than anyone else's.
He's a he's a big, he's a bad dude, but
he's like one of those guys. He's on your team.

(32:25):
You couldn't be you couldn't be more thrilled. It feels
like the team feels like everybody in the league senses
you guys know there's something special. How do you manage
those expectations with the all in mentality of let's pick
up Marcus Peters, let's go get in Dominkins Sue let's go. Now,
how do you manage that considering people are expecting even
bigger things than the eleven wins in the playoffs last year.

(32:48):
It all comes back to that first question. Um, if
you're playing this game, your expectations for yourself as to
be harder than anyone else's. UM. As a team, that's
that's the actude we should be taking to. You know,
our expectations from for ourselves are higher than you want
else expects of us, and so and what are we
Because of that, we got modeled our whole off season.
Everything we do, every moment, every minute, every day has
to be a reflection of those goals that we have

(33:08):
for ourselves moving forward. Um, the guy you went against
last year that you have the healthiest respect for you like, man,
that guy is really really good. Man. There are so
many of them, Um, you know, I think the first
one just in terms of just you know, early in
the year, having just that wake up of seeing someone
playing at a very high level. Um. You know it
was Josh Norman um and their second game against the

(33:30):
Redskins and didn't get a ton of reps against him,
but just early on coming into that season seeing someone
do what they do at a very high level. Um,
I think that's someone in terms of someone not on
our team, well and incredibly impressive first year. We expected
to add to that all the fantasy fans out there.
He said, like, hey, five touchdown is not good enough, dude,
Gotta have some more touchdown receptions this year. Best of lucks.

(33:52):
Most importantly, stay healthy in the training camp in the preseason,
we'll talk to the season roles on. Thanks for joining
you very much, Cooper Cup of the l A Rams
joining us year live at Rams Camp
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