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September 24, 2025 • 40 mins

On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the much anticipated game this Sunday Night between the Cowboys and Packers as Micah Parsons makes his return to Dallas.

Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to discuss the Chargers, Colts and the other major NFL headlines.

In this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew talk about the biggest surprises of the NFL season through week 3. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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(00:47):
it Tuesday Morning Quarterback you can hear on Tuesday's here
on the show. What does it signify? It signifies the
fact that we during that segment of the show, we
talk about things that everybody else, ourselves included missed. We'll
miss some stuff. Because there's thirty two teams, we have
two hours live and one hour of a live podcast.

(01:10):
It helps. So I do think sometimes we've got to
show off that we're all sports fans. We pay attention
to the entirety of the sports world. Is a good thing.
Case in point, I feel like we talk about baseball
and nobody else does. Although there are times in which
I'll have a day with like, I didn't really watch
that much baseball, you know, Sam, I'll actually point out

(01:32):
I've been watching. I've been caught watching some WNBA playoffs
and it's honestly because as we're implementing our offensive and
defensive schemes, a couple of teams in the w play
the way that I want to play. All right, we're like,
so you get ideas, and there you go. Again. Here's
the full disclosure. The part that it's a lot the

(01:55):
spacing is the same. Obviously, they have no ability to
be vertical above the rims, so you have to kind
of change in some of the angles. The skill is
very good, but it's also slower, and so they can
be a little bit more precise and you can see
a little bit what they're doing. Whereas and it's like
the NBA, it's stupid physical in the playoffs. So some
of it is just really hard to watch because there's

(02:17):
so much grabbing and holding, but less so in the
WNBS because the NBA where you can run a really
good set, but it gets blown up because they're just
allowed to kind of tackle you to let you get
the ball. And the only way to you know, go
around that is find a mismatch, throw it to somebody
and let them go play. Anyway. I digress. We got
a big show for you. The Midway is midpoint of

(02:39):
our show that's upcoming in one hour. We'll talk about
surprises or things that we just didn't expect to happen
that have happened so far in the NFL season. Sunday Night,
the Cowboys are going to host the Packers. Of course,
there's a lot of things that go along with the
cub with the Cowboys hosting the Packers. Right, one is

(03:01):
des caught it Right, it does catch the ball. We
all go back. That was a huge playoff game and
des Brian caught the ball. But the most recent one
is Micah Parsons recent former Cowboy. We're talking about four
and a half weeks ago, a month ago, he was
a Cowboy and now he's a member of the Packers.
Here's Micah talking about his anticipator return to AT and

(03:22):
T Stadium for Lea.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know, I accepted my feet weeks ago when the
trade happened. So for me, it's just all about playing
another game and just doing what I do best, and
that's just need to.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Disrupt a football player. You know.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I think the media and the fans are trying to
blow it up to be such a big thing, but
you know, I just look at just another game at
AT and T.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, and let's be fair, Okay. Micah Parsons is a pro,
he's an adult. There's a little bit of there's a
little bit of the desire to sound mature, but you
actually sound and immature in saying it. That makes sense.
It's like when somebody uses a big word that they

(04:06):
don't really know what it means. Again, not saying Parsons
does this. I'm drawing an analogy here, right. Have you
ever been around somebody uses a big word and you're like,
you want to say to one of your friend's, like,
I don't think he knows what that means. Right, Here's
let me replay that for you and you understand the case.
He's saying, I don't get it. I don't know why

(04:28):
it's such a big deal, just another game. I'm just
just another guy, right, which sounds mature. It sounds like
I'm saying like, hey, just another game. I moved on.
I'm ready to get on with things. This is post
therapy me, right when the reality is you were a
Dallas Cowboy. It is supposed to and we believed it

(04:52):
really meant something to you. You competed your butt off.
The message should be I love being a Dallas cowboy.
I loved I was a Dallas Cowboy. They drafted me
in the first round and I played my tail off
for him. I gave him everything I had and we
couldn't come to a financial agreement, so they traded me,
and now I'm a Green Bay Packer. Of course I

(05:14):
get to play against the Cowboys in Cowboys Stadium at
at and t like, this is awesome, and I get
to you cheer me, boom me. I'll be a focal
point of it. That's great. I'm excited. But it was
an honor to play for him. It's not to play
against him like that's don't undersell it. But it's not
what he said. He was trying to sound mature. Hey
I moved on, But there's no possible way that anybody

(05:37):
thinks you truly moved on in its month. And this
was you know, what's it called when he bounce back
in relationship? You know, it's that next relationship after the
one ends. What is it? Are you a rebet? There's
a little bit of rebound relationship there. Right here is
Michael Parson's talking about what it'll be like if he

(05:59):
sex Prescott.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's gonna be painful, you know what I mean? That's
my guy. You know he was always like a good
mentor for me. Well you know it is.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
He always talking about I faced him that you know
it'll be a it'll be a great match up.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
So I'm excited to see what Sunday it brings you.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So uh uh that now that sounded real. That did
not sound for me, Laic just sounded real. Where's the
other stuff? Sounded like somebody told him to say that.
Here's Jerry Jones, one of the Dallas Cowboys, talking about

(06:34):
the game.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Jerry, do you feel any extra competitive drive to win
this week with Michael Parsons coming back?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yes, yes I do, And uh I think that of
course I have said this time and time again. I
think the world of Micah and uh as an individual
and of course know him well. Uh but and then
mind say shit, well, except it's obvious I don't this

(07:02):
weekend in terms of the Green Bay winning winning the
ball games, and so it makes for an exciting time
and I'm not anxious to see if over the years
when I saw Michaels mitigated, when I saw teams playing
pretty well, which he's going to make some plays no

(07:25):
matter how you played. But when I saw people play
us well with Micah in the game and it did happen,
then obviously it will be looking to try to run
those kinds of plays.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I love what Jerry Jones said, like, it's a big game. Yeah,
the guy just left, whatever happened with the contract, we
offered him a contract attension, he chose to not be
a Dallas Cowboy. So yeah, it's a big game, and
it's the Packers and they're good, they're coming off loss,
and we haven't played well yet. I don't know I

(08:00):
why Parsons would try and downplay it. There's no way
to downplay what took place. When you remember the Cowboys,
it was awesome. Now you're playing against the Cowboys, it's
equally awesome. Every guy who leaves the place. I told
people this all the time. Notre Dame did nothing wrong.
When I had to leave Notre Dame zero, they didn't
do anything wrong, but I still wanted. I almost went

(08:22):
to Marquette because one I thought it was cool, a
small school, you know, in Milwaukee where I was born
and did they played an NBA arena and Mike Dan
at the time I really liked. But the bigger one,
big motivator was I could play against Notre Dame every year.

(08:44):
I'm like, don't, So I don't. I just don't know why.
Michael Parsons can't be real about it, And then he
was when he started talking about Dak. It'll be hard,
but that's my guy. But man can't wait to compete
against him. Sure, that's what natural competitors do. Here's a
game where the Cowboys, whose defense is struggled can step

(09:07):
up and show, hey, we're not that bad. I don't
know what the Cowboys do offensively where now they've lost
one of their go to guys in a CD LAMB.
So a team that hasn't stopped anybody, and obviously without
Michael Parsons is not designed to put pressure on the
quarterback and an offense that loses one of its two

(09:30):
big time wide receivers. I just it feels like they're
out of talent disparity. But that's where emotion energy may be.
Fighting for the star makes them more competitive. We'll see,
we'll see. But I don't know anybody who no matter
how you live on good terms, you live on bad terms.

(09:51):
I just think competitive people are going to be competitive.
So I don't buy the Micah Parsons. It's just another game,
do you? I sure don't.

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Speaker 1 (10:47):
Et cetera. DJ, what what's this experience like? Because how
many years have been doing Charger games?

Speaker 8 (10:55):
Now?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm gonna guess seven. I just I feel like seven. Okay, okay,
So you've experienced playoffs before, right, so they haven't all
been like people we make the Chargers out to be
like they're the laughingstock of the league. That haven't been.
But there there was the Chargering thing which became a thing,
which is no game was ever intact because you always
they always found a way to lose. That thing is flipped, right,

(11:17):
I mean last week, like you're like, this is classic
Chargers let down, lose to the loose to the Broncos,
and yet and yet Herbert within a couple amazing plays
and they pull it out. What what is that like?
As somebody who has watched this thing evolved evolve over
the last eight years.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
Yeah, I just changed it from what could you know,
what could go wrong? To what could go right? You know,
like that's that's just the mindset that's completely flipped. And
I give Donald Jim Harball a lot of credits, but
you know, Ben Herbert, their strength coach, all the extra
work that they put in. I think the offense was
on the field for eighty six snaps and you're down
a couple offensive linemen, and they found a way on

(11:57):
the biggest drive to you know, to make the play
they needed to make. And it's not only kind of
you know, avoiding being physically tired, but being mentally focused
and in tune when you got to have it. And
late in that game they had to have a stop,
the defense gave it to him, they had to move
the ball, the offense did it, and they had to
make a kick and the kicker is the best in
the league at doing that right now. So you know,
he's got a real, a real complete team. And I

(12:20):
think hardball, you know, coming in and uh, kind of
establishing some confidence is a is a huge part of that.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, it seems to be a very very big part
of it. What's wrong with the Broncos.

Speaker 9 (12:34):
Nothing wrong with their front. I mean their defense is
really really good, and I you know, you look over
the last couple of weeks, they've had two heartbreaking losses
down at the last minute, so they're they're right in games.
They've just they've missed. They've missed the throws. I mean
Bownicks missed three throws in that game which should have
been huge, huge home runs. And uh, you know it's

(12:54):
not all it's not a super hard fix. He's seeing it,
he's getting the ball where it needs to go. He
just throwing the ball when he's got guys in the
clear with way too much air and he's airmailed some
instead of when you're that open to put it on him.
I mean, that should be a you know, a teaching
point that you can nail home and be able to
solve and fix. But that to me is you know,

(13:17):
kind of my take what they look like. I've seen
them up close. That was a fast the defense as
you're going to see up front, very very physical. It
looked like a playoff team. They just don't have the
record to support that right now.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremi. I moved to sticks to his podcast. Okay,
let's bounce around the league a little bit. I think
Jason Stewart asked a great question, but instead of me
taking his question, I'll let Jay stu our steam producer
asked the question, No, it is not baseball related. Jase,

(13:49):
do go ahead, thanks Stgy.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
I't to take it from here. Doug Daniel question, So
not only are the coled Serano, but Daniel Jones looks great.
I know Jonathan Taylor's has a lot to do with this,
but the weirdest thing for me is this. You have
a guy that is renowned in his career for being
a turnover machine, has zero turnovers in three weeks. How

(14:12):
do you coach turnovers out of a guy who has
been turnover laden?

Speaker 9 (14:18):
Uh, it's a great question. I would say the circumstances
and situation have changed. He's playing behind a better offensive
line than he ever had with the Giants as part
of it, so that makes life a little easier on you.
He's got buying and complete belief from everyone in the building,
coaching staff, you know, the front office, everyone, So he's

(14:40):
playing with confidence. He's not playing scared. A lot of times,
it's like they always could say, like if you play
not to get hurt, you're going to get hurt. And
if you play not to turn the ball over, you
end up turning the ball over. You got you got
to see it. Trust it and let it rip. And
you do that when you have guys that instill some
confidence in you. So I think he has that. You
know my thing. Jaycee is thinking about this the other day,

(15:00):
and I said this on a couple platforms, but Eli
Manning is the only quarterback who had really long sustained
success in the New York market Jets or Giants at
the quarterback position in the last what thirty years, and
even that came with some ups and downs in the
regular season. He just had a couple of magical postseason runs.
But that market has now chewed up and spit out.
Geno Smith, who we've seen go on and be a

(15:22):
solid productive player. Sam Darnold, who now is doing it
for another team, looks like he's solved some of his problems.
And now Daniel Jones, I think that's there's an aspect
to that New York pressure that that I don't know.
I gas it's enough recognition, There you go.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Daniel Jeremiah
is our guest. Is Jackson got ready?

Speaker 9 (15:46):
I don't know that he's ever going to be, you know,
ready for that first start. It's just going to be
so different than what he did in college. But it
was not really a decision. They had a choice with Daway.
Russ had looked into of these first three games, and
they've they've got to try and protect him as best
they can and try and run the ball. I think,
use him to run the ball a little bit the

(16:06):
RPO game, doing things to make him comfortable. I think
you've got to tell him, hey, the goal isn't to
come out and light the world on fire right out
to shoot. The goal was for us to get better
each and every week with you out there. So I
think I would lower expectations initially and the hope that
he continues to grow and get better and and figure
out ways to get Malik neighbors the ball as many
many different ways as you can. You know. I think

(16:29):
that it's gonna bring some excitement. I'm excited to be
in the building. I think he'll bring some juice and
some buzz to the stadium after what's been kind of
a painful watch here outside of one game against the
disgustingly bad Cowboy defense.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, but what why not? Why not? Jamis?

Speaker 9 (16:45):
I just think you're spinning your wheels there. I look
at teams like the Giants. I've talked about this with
the Browns. I know they had a big win last week,
but this season for teams like that the Saints, I
would put in that category as well. You're trying to
find out who's going to be part of this group
next year. Let's get a chance to you know, evaluate

(17:07):
as many young players as we can to know what
we have and uh, in the hopes that we were
rocking and rolling next year. These teams aren't playoff teams
this year. They're not going anywhere this year. So to
roll out, you know, a stop gap quarterback in Jamis
Winston in the hopes that you're going to make the
playoffs this year, I don't. I don't think that's the
smart move. I think the smart move to see what
you got with this kid.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Why why is the Steelers defense not not better?

Speaker 9 (17:31):
I mean, they're just turnovers. They got some turnovers this
last week, but that was really the kind of the
only reason that they won that game. You know, offensively,
I don't think they were they were great. I think
it was a little bit better defensively, So that was
encouraging based off what we saw the previous two weeks.
But they've they've been hit with some similar concepts and

(17:53):
struggled to make some adjustments inside of games, which I
would say it's been kind of a you know, an
issue for them. But at least, you know, at least
for one week, they were you know, they were able
to take the football away.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
For one week. It's the Gotlip Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. I don't know whether to ask about the
Eagles or the Rams, right, I think it's the Eagles,
But like two block field goals in the fourth quarter,
I get this. It kind of circles back to where
we started with Harbaugh. The Eagles just have that we

(18:27):
find a way to win thing that few teams have,
and they that's how they won football games. Does it
ultimately catch up to them?

Speaker 9 (18:38):
You know, I don't know that it does. I don't
even think it's just a football thing. I talked to
my kids about this, Doug Is, and I'm sure you've
had similar conversations with both your kids and your teams.
But I have a firm believer that grit is a muscle,
and the more you exercise it, and the more you
prove that you can do something when things are against you,
and those gotta habit moments. I think it tends to

(18:58):
happen more and more and more and more are and
you don't win whatever they are now, what like nineteen
out of twenty games without having ways in those big
moments when you nest not necessarily have played your best,
but there's those key moments. The Eagles have gotten really, really,
really good at digging down and finding ways to make
those plays. And I think you draw the right comp

(19:18):
with the with the Chargers because I think that's what
Harbaugh's instilled with this group and you're starting to see
that as well. The Eagles have done that on a
completely other level. I Mean you could argue, I say,
they're three plays away from being winless this year, and
I would push back and argue and say, but that's
why they're the Eagles, because they know how to make
those three plays absolutely had to make.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I agree with you. Last thing, what is your status
as far as the Padres and the Cubs, Like, are
you going to fly to Chicago for the series?

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Well, I don't know that. I'm gonna have to fly
because I think we got a very good chance of
catching them in that series could be at Petco, you know,
we're only a game and a half behind them. We're
a game and a half behind the Dodgers. We don't
have the tiebreaker with the Dodgers. To be honest, I
want jay us Dodgers to win the division, so then
they have to go get beat by Philadelphia and then
we can just cruise through the Cubs and the Brewers.

(20:08):
So that's my that's my game plan.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Cubbies have lost five in a row. They have two
more against the Mets, including one tonight and tomorrow night.
Then they got the cards for for three, so we'll
see how that plays for the week.

Speaker 9 (20:22):
By the way, the Brewers, the Brewers, best team in
the National League, have scored eight runs in five games
against the Padres.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Come on, okay, I mean listen, let's let's let's see
how it plays out. I mean see how plays out.
I mean Jase Stu's doing a victory lap because he
predicted that the Dodgers bullpen would be their downfall. It has.
But again, see what happens in the second season. DJ,
you are the best man, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
What upout you? Dot Leap Show Box Sports? Alrighty, yeah,
how you doing? How you doing? Trying to get to
the bottom of Uh? Did I hear a guy named
Jibebroni is the new general manager of the Nationals. He's
a JIBEBRONI? Is that what I heard? To BONI? I

(21:19):
thought it would have been better if his name was JIBEBRONI. Y, JIBEBRONI.
Do do do doo doo doo. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
I hope you're having a great day. You do know
this is a Wednesday, which means, among other things, we
got football tomorrow. We can figure out a little bit
of baseball to talk, although I'm not sure after yesterday

(21:40):
Jason Sewer wants to talk baseball because, uh really, this
is kind of his prediction, which was the bullpen would
be ultimately the Achilles heel.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
So you just answered your own question. Yeah, you said,
I don't know if Jason will want to talk about
something that he has been predicting all season long. Of
course I would want to take a victory lap so
that it's a contradiction.

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(22:46):
times we try and keep it to sports. But it's
the middle of the day, the middle of the show,
the middle of the week. Let's get to the midway.
It's not getting It's time for the midway, all right,
Jay Stu, this is your show. What's it you dog?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'll take it from here.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Thank you, Doug.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Are you guys are working together? Look it's finally you're
finally working together with the drop. Thank you you dog.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
I sent the following text out to the crew today.
I got one response from Iowa Sam.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
No, you got two response?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got two?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, did you see the thumb up?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Oh, the thumbs up.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's a response that could.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Be subtle, but I like it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
It was nothing subtle about it. It was right after
you sent it them up.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
So just to get this straight for the listeners who
aren't on the group text, I sent a choice of two.
Doug sent a thumbs up and thinks I should accept that.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
No no no no no no no no no no
is the thumb up on both choices.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
No thumb up on both choices.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Here are the choices fellas the biggest surprise in the
NFL season through week three. Pick one, pick one, and
Droe down on it. I feel the need to give
instruction because in recent days we have Iowa Sam, who
the verb is developed after samming it up, and then
the host of the show has been samming things up.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I want, We've been we've been filled, We've been philibustering,
like we're what's the guy? Shoot? He stood there all day,
Corey Booker, Corey Booker, Corey Booker philibustered for.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Like a day, t five hours or something.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but you know, you.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Guys have been IOWA samming it up and philibustering more.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Than me lately.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
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the roof because of the coverage we've given the Panthers
the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2 (24:43):
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Speaker 5 (24:44):
I just saw the headline today. Uh, Doug Gottlieb's coverage
of Bryce Young has already become Bryce Old.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So drilled down on one we go around.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
With a dad like nineteen years that's like your worst
dad joke.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Ever, or a playful yet serious discussion on the ABS
challenge system.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I have a lot of thoughts, but cool of the three,
which do you guys? Of the two? What auld you guys?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Like?

Speaker 11 (25:10):
I thought we were doing NFL, so I didn't even
think that there was a Yeah, this guy.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I didn't even know about the ABS line, Dan Byers,
Since you were excited about doing that. I could feel
it in your voice. What's the biggest surprise for you
after a week three?

Speaker 11 (25:22):
Well, it's it's a surprise in a weird way, and
it comes from a place that we just were at,
Jason Stewart, we were in Buffalo and through three weeks
of the season. If you're a Buffalo Bills fan, not
taking what your team has done on the field, but
you could not have asked for a better start to

(25:43):
your season and the hopes of this being your year.
Didn't you see something in Buffalo, Jason where it said
this is our year?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, that was a pretty wame year mantra. You know, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Let me can I can? I? I think this is
where you're going with it again? Come of them wrong? Right?
The rest of the teams that we think are the
top of the AFC are all collapsing. Is that what
you're getting doing?

Speaker 11 (26:08):
It's part of it, Yes, what's the other part of it? Well,
they've got to win over the Ravens. So their lead
over Baltimore right now is technically three games. Yes, if
it were to ever come to that. The Bills were
also the team in the NFL. I believe the only
team in the NFL at the start of the year
where they would have been favored in every single game. Now,

(26:31):
obviously if something happens with Josh Allen that would change,
but at the beginning of the year they were going
to be favored in every single game they played. They've
got the Chiefs coming to town in early November, They've
got the Eagles coming to Buffalo at the end of December,
and by the way, what could be a meaningless game
in week seventeen, and depending on how things shape out.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But it's not.

Speaker 11 (26:50):
Only the Ravens being one and two and their win
over the Ravens. It's the Chiefs being one and two,
their division in Buffalo, the Dolphins and Jets and Sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, it looks like the worst division in football outside
of the Bills.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Yes, so even if you're looking at the Chargers at
three and zero, which by the way, would be I
think a nightmare matchup for the Bills. I think the
one team that they would not want to play is
the Chargers. But the Chargers, go ahead, I'm sorry, are
three to zero in their division, but they do have
road games coming up with the Chiefs with the Broncos

(27:24):
in rematches later on in the season, So there could
be could be some faltering there, but so far, so good.
If you're a Bills fan, where everything is lined up
in your way, and even if the Colts go sixteen
and one or fifteen and two, I don't think that
they would be worried about having a playoff game having
to go to Indianapolis to face them.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, that's honestly a point that I was thinking as
you're talking Dan, which is if in worst case scenario
Buffalo has to go to Indy or La, Josh Allen
on a fast track is actually better for Josh Allen. Right,
That's why you're talking about the Chargers if they had
to come to Buffalo AFC championship game in Buffalo. The

(28:07):
Chargers are really a running, run based team, right, and
the power football team. On the other hand, they're also
the Chargers, so there is no faith from anybody that
they can actually pull it off, they can even get
that far in the playoffs. So I'm with you. It
is when you look at when if you were to
name the top teams in the AFC, and you're like Bengals,
they're done, right, Chiefs don't look better, look worse. Although

(28:30):
they're gonna get healthy a wide receiver you think they'll get,
they'll get better. The defense is not bad, but right
now they're taking l's and Baltimore losing two games they
rightfully could have won. And you know, like you have
no faith in Baltimore in the playoffs, let alone Baltimore
coming to Buffalo. I'm with you last year, that building
playing outdoors. It's been a good it's been a good

(28:50):
month so far. Can I do mine? Mine's real simple.
I can't believe the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is playing how
they're playing, you know, I the Aaron Rodgers looking old
and Russell Wilson looking washed. I mean that there's a
rant there, Jay stew that at some point we got

(29:10):
to come up with, which is it's like the It's
like when you go back to your college tow with
your old buddies and you sit around and you're like, man,
are these do these girls look really young? You're like, no,
we're really old.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's that moment that you realize Aaron Rodgers at old,
Russell Wilson is old, like Tom Brady is an outlier
that he was able to perform that well in his forties, Like, guys,
look goal. But it's way more surprising that the Pittsburgh
Steelers defense hasn't dominated at all. Hasn't dominated at all.
And you know, cam Heywood wanted more money and they

(29:41):
just gave him some incentives because they know he's over
the hill. You know, JJ Watt got a new deal, right,
but he hasn't been as dynamic and they're surviving games.
And I just I'm I'm frankly, I'm surprised. I would
have thought that defense was nasty and they have not
shown it so far this year.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, good one.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
It's supposed to be in concert with what the offense
is doing. Now, they did force five Patriots turnovers, some
of those the fault of New England themselves, but that's
the only reason why they won the game against the
Patriots this past weekend. Turned the ball over five times.
You should lose force five turnovers?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
You actually, and I will and like, look, I love Rabel, okay,
but remember he kind of talked a little trash about Belichick. Like, look,
one thing Belichick's teams didn't do is beat themselves, and
his team beat it to beat themselves.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
I'm Glad Dan brought up the term turnovers because my
surprise of the year involves a person who had seventy
three turnovers in his career coming into the season is
currently three and oh with his new team and has
zero turnovers. That's Indiana Jones, Daniel Dollars, whatever the new

(30:54):
nickname is for this guy three and oh as a
starting quarterback on the Colts. I can understand it if
Shane Syken has put him in places to succeed, if
the scheme is better, and Jonathan Taylor being healthy is
a big reason. I don't understand how you could coach
turnovers out of your turnover Leyden quarterback. That doesn't make
sense to me. So whatever has happened is a complete

(31:17):
anomaly for three weeks or we're seeing a new quarterback.
And what I like best about this surprise is it
has provided the contrast to the Giants' decision makers. I
honestly don't think they make the decision yesterday about Jackson
Dart if Daniel Jones isn't playing, or if he's playing poorly.

(31:38):
I think this has gone into the mix of the
decision to further the process of getting rid of Brian
daball and let's start this rookie and take a hail
Mary chance at saving his job. Daniel Jones providing the
surprise for the Colts at three and zero, and the
contrast for likely a Hall of Fame quarterback hall of

(31:59):
Fame esque. I know that's a trigger term for Dan
who doesn't think Russell William's a Hall of Famer, But
to get that guy to lose his job and potentially
a head coach to lose his job by playing so well,
Danny Dollars or Indiana Jones my choice for the death
it is.

Speaker 11 (32:17):
I think it's absolutely fair to say that because there's
no reason, legitimate reason why Jackson Dart should be starting now. Yeah,
because if you wanted to say that they were working
him in, why now? I mean, Russell Wilson just threw
for four hundred and fifty yards. I can I guess
ten days ago?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Can I guess?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Dan?

Speaker 11 (32:39):
I think Jason just did in saying like that's why
they did it?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Why Jace, why do you think they did?

Speaker 5 (32:46):
I think that the Giant's decision to hastily put their
rookie quarterback in this week had something to do with
the fact that their old quarterback is balling it out
in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I don't think that's what it is. I don't. I
think this is a this is how you save your job.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
But I think that's also what Jason is saying too.
Is that's my point, Yeah, this is this is why
you do it. Now, this is their hail Mary because
the ship is this ship is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, I I just don't. I don't know on
the Danny Dimes thing. The only thing I'm hesitant on
the Danny Dimes sing was, do you guys remember when
Sam Donald went to Carolina and they were three, you know,
the first three games and McCaffrey, McCaffrey was the running back.
McCaffrey gets hurt I don't know, the third or the
fourth game, and then all of a sudden he goes

(33:35):
back to New York jet Sam Donald and he gets
cut at the end of the year, right if he
split time with with what Saint Baker ends up replacing
him at some point in the year. My point is
that Jonathan Taylor is a huge factor in Danny Dimes, right,
and so there's still kind of that excuse, like I
understand what you're saying. I just think this is a
classic overreaction of just play the kid and that's our future.

(34:00):
And anytime we lose, we say we're playing a kid.
And anytime we win, where the quarterback whisper it's people
do that in college sports as well. Ah, my team
is so young, Well, you're only playing the young players
because that's how you save your job.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Can you ask Daners Jeremiah something? I never do this,
but can you ask him something? How do you coach
turnovers out of your turnover laden quarterback? How do you
coach that out of them? How does he have zero
after three weeks?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's a great question. They've done a good job with
Jordan Love up until this past week, he hadn't turned
it over in like eight games.

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Colts also have a great running game too.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
That helps.

Speaker 11 (34:41):
Yeah, the Colts did a couple of things. First of all,
they lost pieces via free agency going to Minnesota Will
Fries and Ryan Kelly, but they still have Quenton Nelson.
They invested in a couple of other pieces that they
resigned along their line and it's yeah, it's been Jonathan
Taylor as well. Jonathan Taylor's been the best running back

(35:02):
through three weeks of the NFL season. So now you
have a mobile quarterback as well, not that that has
a threat to throw the football, which Anthony Richardson wasn't.
And maybe they've got something like I don't think that
Shane Stiken forgot how to coach football just because he
went to Indianapolis. So it seems to be working out
as well. Also the Donald thing, just because I know

(35:23):
we're big in Charlotte. Donald was there a year in
Carolina with that three and oh star Baker did and
come until the next year and then started right away.
But no, that's it's just the point of of how
crazy that whole situation was that the Browns then ended
up dealing him in the preseason to the Panthers, and
then the Panthers just gave him the starting job right away,
and then he ended up failing in Carolina.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Wait down, what do you got, Sam?

Speaker 10 (35:49):
Well, if it's wait and see with the Indianapolis Colts,
it's uh, it's got to be wait and see with
the Chargers, right, I mean, they're they're the first Charger. Listen, there,
they're three and o for the If it's inherently a
surprise if you're three and oh for the first time
in twenty twenty three years.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
That is a surprise. It fits the definition perfectly.

Speaker 10 (36:11):
You know, they've had key injuries now, Rashaun Slater in
the offseason before the season start. Now they have lost
Najee Harris, but man Harbob being there is just turned
Justin Herbert from a really good quarterback into a guy
you can put on, you know, put the game on
his back and he'll deliver. So maybe they won't Charger,
but I still think a lot of Charger fans are
gonna wait and see they have a they have three

(36:32):
and oh up three and oh in the division that
that's really great. But I think that the biggest surprise
is if it's the winning side of the Chargers. Maybe
you go like the losing side, the Texans, But the
Chargers are the surprise. They are the positive surprise being
three and oh.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Can I argue with that? That's a good one, especially
with Rashaun Slater going down, Khalil Mack going down.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh yeah, I forgot. How got that?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I mean the Slater injury I really thought was like
that sealed the fate for them to make maybe win
nine or ten games, maybe like creep into the playoffs.
I don't understand how they're doing this. Maybe you could
ask Jeremiah.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
That what's your what's surprise? Dan Jason? Oh you oh
you did your yours with the with the New York
Giants and the quarterback play.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, yeah, we did as instructive. We went around the
horn and.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
We did we did one.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Again, I apologize. We all talked about that topic. That's
why I thought about Okay, can I give you? Can
I give you one more that's a surprise? Yes, just
I can.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Right, it's your show.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I'm frankly flabbergasted at what happened to the Texans. I'll
be honest with you. I don't follow a Texan football
in the offseason and what they've done two years ago. Okay,
two years ago, c J. Stroud was the future. Right.
They have a dynamic young coach who comes back from

(37:54):
the Niners to a place he played, and you're like,
you got a defensive minded code that everybody thinks. He's
like their version of Dan Campbell, right, not as much
of a of a of a raw rose Dan Campbell,
but solid. Everybody believes. You've got a quarterback who comes
in at Ohio State. You're like, dude, CJ. Stroud is it?

(38:16):
And you know last year was a sophomore slump. Okay,
it's been worse this year, Dan explain, help.

Speaker 11 (38:26):
Help, Yeah, a sophomore slump, which is crazy enough they
ended up making the playoffs last year and meet the
Chargers in the playoff game, and and which is true,
Like I'm not being sarcastic and saying, well, it absolutely
was a let down year for what we thought could
have been and how they were able to at least
get what they got last year. They've lost is again,

(38:48):
they've lost close games, but it's not like they are
close games they should have won. Like when you don't
score a touchdown in a game because you fumble on
your way into the end zone, that is on you.
That's happened twice this season. In Week three against the
Jaguars when they only had ten points on the board
and Nico Collins with the late fumble. Then Daria Gumbal
Walley fumbled in their frantic comeback against the Rams, which

(39:10):
they lost fourteen to nine. Like this is I mean,
they can't score more than twenty points in a game? Yeah, nine, Yeah,
they don't have an offensive line. They lost Jill Mixon.
Nick Chubb hasn't been the replacement that that mixing was
last year for them, and that's no fault on Nick Chubb.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
It's just where he is. The injury.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
Yeah, I think it's just that injury is just so
devastating to come back from that. Like he is what
he is, and they've got, you know, they have Damian
Peers and Woody Marks, a rookie out of USC could
be options moving forward. But they traded Laramie Tunzel to
the Commanders this past offseason when they already had a
bad offensive line. So their defense has been really good

(39:55):
so far this season, and the offense in the little
that they had to do the little and that's just
holding onto the football, could not do it when they
needed it the most. And it's been, yeah, a dreadful start.
They're already three games back in the division. They got
the Titans this weekend, so if they can't win that game, yikes.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And that is the midway.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
The midway
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