August 7, 2018 • 37 mins
It’s the Best of the Doug Gottlieb Show! Doug explains why LeBron James’ sudden takeover of Hollywood (4 new TV shows!) feeds into the narrative that maybe basketball isn’t the most important thing to him anymore, why the Ohio State rally in support of Urban Meyer was a bad look for everybody involved, and why Kevin Durant is the Donald Trump of sports. Plus, University of Nebraska head football coach Scott Frost stops by
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I'm not sure if you're aware, but last night it
was announced that there'd be a three part doc docuseries
on Showtime called shut Up in Dribble. It's gonna debut
in October, the same month that Lebron James gonna suit
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up for the l A Lakers. The series is gonna
look at the changing role of athletes and the current
political culture and the cultural climate against the backdrop of
the NBA. James is the executive producer of the series,
along with Maverick Carter and his agent Rich Paul Gotham Chopra,
who did Kobe Bryant's mus in two thousand fifteen, also
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that was the Showtime show will direct the series. So
like Look they Got Like Legit a legit guy doing
this thing. There's also an HBO show called The Shop.
That's the barbershop deal, right that he had he had
previously had and argued with people that somehow he invented
this barbershop talk thing. Remember that. Uh. Then apparently there's
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a CBS show called Million Dollar a Mile. He's the
executive producer of a competition series that um has been
ordered by CBS. Yeah, a million Dollar Mile. Contestants will
have a chance to win one million dollars every time
they run the million dollar Miles. Standing in their way
is a challenging course and group of elite athletes with
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one mission stop the contestants from winning money at all
court costs. Right, So it's gonna come from the executive producers,
a big brother, etcetera, etcetera. Oh yeah, and apparently there's
some other show that's gonna be on Netflix. Yeah, he's
got another one on Netflix, like Lebron James is going
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to be have a show on Netflix, have a show
on CBS, have a show on Showtime, have a show
on HBO to those of you're not paying attention to
have a show on Showtime and Hbo albeit different. Once
that docuseries you know, the other one is uh, the
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other one is is a kind of different type of show,
and then the one on uh Netflix is going to
be uh uh, it's gonna be like a situation comedy,
not a rom coma situation comedy. And then have a
game show essentially every type of show, every type of
show he's gonna have with a different network that would
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be like, hey, look, yes, I wear Nike shoes, but
I wear Adetas shorts, I wear stand socks, and my
headband is provided by somebody altogether different. So Lebron takes
l a is really amazing. And by the way, it
does fit into the narrative that people have said, you
know what, basketball is not the most important thing to him.
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I am more. Think about even what Lebron James is
saying himself, I'm more than an athlete. Companies have done
this before and they have failed. For example, if you
get away from your core audience, your core audience well
will sometimes lose interest. The two most prominent examples of
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that of the NHL and NASCAR. How popular is the
NHL and NASCAR look? They were on fire in the nineties.
On fire, of course, Los Angeles was helped out with
the fact that they got Wayne Gretzky once the great
One came to town. All of a sudden, La for
some reason, cared about hockey. The Kings have won two
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Stanley Cups, but they don't not even a blip on
the sports radar in Los Angeles. Remember the Atlanta Thrashers.
Think about the disaster that Phoenix has been in the
National Hockey League. They departed cities like Winnipeg and others
in Canada suddenly were not important to the league. Now, look,
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the NHL has done a really nice job of getting
back to their core audience as they've kind of retracked,
and they're back in Winnipeg and and and they're they're
doing well on you know, uh, they have their own
NHL network on NBCSN and you know, they have some
they got the outdoor game every year right around Christmas time.
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But the fact is that the NHL got away from
their core audience. And even though we like hockey, we
don't know hockey, we know anything about it. Why because
nobody plays hockey growing up, Nobody talks about hockey. The
too many players, too many players that we didn't watch
growing up. We can't their faces we can only see
their numbers. It's not that hockey isn't a cool sport.
It is just Look, I've been doing this for fifteen years.
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Nobody gives a damn about hockey. The same thing with NASCAR.
NASCAR was big in the South, big in the Midwest.
Then they go to Fontana on California Speedway, which is awesome.
And don't get me wrong, there's just as many Rednecks
that love race car, love racing in Fontana as there
are are in Talladega. But what you do is same
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thing as the NHL. You end up taking off your
core audience. They're like, Yo, you've forgotten us, You've gone Hollywood,
You've gone to all these other stops instead of paying
attention to what's important. And NASCAR has seen their ratings
plummet even as they try and get back to what
their core is now. Look, there are other factors that
play for the NHL over expansion. Um. The fact is
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that's just a hard watch on TV. It's hard to
pick up the puck. It's hard to know what's going on.
We didn't grow up watching the sport. Like there's some
other factors. But the fact is that the NHL got
away from their core audience and over expanded into markets
that weren't familiar and that weren't part of that core audience.
And one of the reason is that there's a bunch
of reasons the NHL is far more healthy now. One
is they've set their salary scale, salary structure a lot
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more soundly. But I think the biggest part is they've
gotten back to their core audience. NASCAR essentially will do
the same. And that's the danger of what Lebron James
is doing. It's not that he can't do a movie
here spacem two. It's not that he can't produce a
show there. It's once you start producing multiple shows, once
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you start doing appearances and movies and movie premieres. Plus
your father, and he is an engaged father. I'm not
being critical the fact that he shows up at his
son's games, but there's a reason. There's there's more than
one reason that he doesn't want to practice. He only
wants to do his personal workouts like he is time regimented. Look, dude,
I got two hours our workout our to work on
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my game and then I'm out, and then I'm a corporation.
I got all this other stuff. So all of those
things that some people have been even what Charles Barkley said,
Charles Barkley says it, and you think he's a hater,
he's old school. Was he wrong? What's more important to
him winning basketball games or being a mogul? I mean, look,
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you said, Colins said, oh year long, he wants to
be a mogul. He wants to be a mogul. Now
you are a mogul. Can you satisfy your core audience?
Because what makes Lebron James what what validated Lebron James
calling himself the king at a very young age was
winning NBA championships, right, And the more things you throw
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on somebody's plate, the less you pay attention to the
basketball team. He's already gone to an organization which is
not a perfect fit for a coach who has not
coached a team into the playoffs yet, who wasn't hired
by the front office. He got this isle of misfit
to ways that you've collected Lance Stevenson and um Shoot
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re Gen Rondo and others on that bench. Then you
got the starters, you got LaVar Ball, you got all
this other stuff, which is your core which has made
you what you are. Look, say what you want about
Michael Jordan's. It's really cool to be critical of Michael Jordan's.
Michael Jordan did have been his business interests. Michael Jordan
did play golf, He did smoke cigars, he did play poker.
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He did always something. But you know what else he did.
He did the breakfast club every day, he had the
guys over at his house where he had a gym
and he worked out. He did go to practice. He
never lost track of what the core of what he
was is right, never lost sight of that. And maybe
the reason that he retired was he was ticked at
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the bulls. Maybe it was because he was done, or
maybe it was because he knew that was the last
time he could give all of his attention or the
most important part of his attention to his sport. Because
part of the Lord to Jordan was never lost in
the finals. Now, maybe Lebron it doesn't matter to some
he never gets back. We can make the excuse that
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it's in the West. If he never gets back, we
can make the excuse that he was coached by Luke
Walton and it was magic. And Rob Polinka is inability
to put a team around him. But the idea that
anyone who says Lebron James he is going to the
Lakers for basketball reasons. All of these announcements Showtime, HBO, Netflix,
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CBS in succession. Even the interview after he opens a
school and Acronto which he says maybe I'll run for president,
only feeds into the narrative and makes it more believable
when he says I'm more than a basketball player. Maybe
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you don't want to play basketball anymore. These people that say, well,
basketball is not who I am. It isn't I'm not
saying that doesn't dimini. It diminishes you as a human being.
To see you're a great basketball player, but that's what
made you, That's what made you. Be Sure to catch
live editions of The Doug got Leap Show weekdays at
noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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the I Heart Radio Whip. Scott Frost join just on
The Doug Outlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coach,
how are you doing well? How are you good? Man? Um? Look,
I I mean being a head coach in Nebraska's obviously
anybody's dream that that plays there, but has it do
you have to wait till your first Saturday on the
field at Memorial Stadium to really to let it sink in.
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Or has it sunk in already? No, I think it's
sunk in. You know, it sinks in when I'm around
so many people that I know and care about, and
so many people that care about me and our staff
and our team and our program. And this is home
for me. Um. Just yesterday practice, Uh, my brother's in
town visit and brought his family, and my parents were there.
Coach Osborne was there. Some friends from Junior High and
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m Hook Nebraska were at practice, and uh, we get
to do a special job and it's very rewarding because
because we get to try to help young people be better,
and it's even more rewarding when you're doing it around
friends and family. What was it like as you know, coaching,
you know, going back to coaching Oregon or even at Satral, Florida.
You pay attention to what's going on back home, but
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you also you have a job to do and you
lock in and whatever program you work for becomes your program.
Um was when when did the when did the possibility
of being the head coach in Nebraska really start? To
maybe become a reality, you know, not until really late.
Um you know, some people might not believe it, but um,
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I told everybody all along, I wasn't thinking about any
other job while I was at UCF and and we
were loyal to that uh standard as a coaching staff
because we want to do everything we could for the
kids that were working hard for us. And the bad
part about that was right at the end of the
season when decisions had to be made, A kind of
kind of just landed on us at the end because
we hadn't spent any time thinking about it. Um you know,
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Nebraska was always a program that I watched, but um
you know, I kind of felt, uh disconnected from it
for a long time because there weren't people in the
building at Nebraska that I knew, and wasn't a lot
of people there that had been there when I was playing. Um,
we we kind of felt apart from a little bit.
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And uh you know, I said this publicly a lot,
but I don't think i'd be back here if if
the leadership hadn't changed, and there were some people working
on campus that had our best interest at heart, and
some people I wanted to work with. Uh, recently, your
your home was broken into, and I know you guys
are doing work on it, and that's always and I
got work being down to my home, and you know,
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there's the trust factor. Did somebody lock something up? And
but but considering like this is your home, it's a
huge thing for you to turn back to end you
to be the head coach like guy like that. Doesn't
that go against like everything this whole thing is about
that somebody break in and steal your stuff. Well, what
got reported was worse than what it actually was. We're
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living in a rental house right now. So the house
that got broken into is one we weren't even in,
which makes it a lot better than my wife and
son weren't in the home. Um, when we first got
in there, every single one of our boxes was cut
open and everything was in a huge pile on the floor.
And the police asked me what I didn't see, and
I gave him a big list. As we were digging
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through the rubble, we found most of this stuff. And um, ironically, UM,
they left almost everything and they took every every piece
of work and everything that I had. UM, which kind
of makes sense because I don't I don't I would
have been surprised if Nebraska fan would have done that
to my house at this point in time. So it
probably wasn't an Abraska fan that did it, and I
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was happy that I didn't lose as much as were
initially thought. Did they did they take the Nebraska rings though, No,
there was two boxes they didn't get opened, and um,
all my rings were in one of the boxes. Um,
and shoot, I told people at my helmet from my
senior year at college in Nebraska was opened and laying
on the floor and still there. And I ran out
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on the field on the last play of the nineties
seven Orange Bowl of our national championship game and grabbed
the ball from coach Osbourne's last play and had it
in a big display case. And they left that. Um,
all they took was all my Oregon Jordan's and a
couple of helmets. That's had to Coach Frost. Thanks for everything,
Marcus Mariota. Uh So, I think it might have been
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an Oregon fan or a sneaker head that did it,
But I didn't lose that much. Doug Otlers Show, Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's talk about the job of
rebuilding Nebraska football what I've always always it's it's kind
of interesting how the world kind of comes full circle.
You know, back when coach Osbourne was there, when you
guys were there, Uh look, you guys were guys are
an option team. Um, and it wasn't that you know,
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you you could throw the football, but you you threw
it kind of out of out of option looks. And
that's But but as much as the spread has been
come synonymous with college football, people I think, and you
tell me if I'm wrong, they misassociate some types of
the spread because like, look what what Baylor does. That's
just the veer and then you got one on one
on the outside. Like that's there's a lot of option looks.
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It's kind of like option football has just evolved a
two thousand fifteen. So whereas when Bill Callahan tried to
come in and scrap the whole thing and become a
pro passing game, or even the Mike Riley comes in
and tries to have a pro passing game, there is
a way to to link the old and the new.
Is that is that a fair assessment of some of
the things that you've done everywhere you've been and comparing
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it to when coach Osborne was winning national championships. Yeah. Well,
first of all, I want to thank you for saying
that I could throw the ball, because there will be
a lot of people that would disagree with that. Um, dude,
I saw the ball and I saw the flee flicker.
I was sitting in my I was sitting in my
door room like my sister. Remember that the run game works,
and that's about it. But now you know, college football evolves,
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offenses evolved, and to be honest, if you're getting back
here and getting in the weeds of it, a lot
of um what hasn't been right with Nebraska football, it's
been self inflicted. Uh, it's been decisions to to go
different directions than what had worked at Nebraska for a
long time. And what we do on offense certainly doesn't
look like what I ran an offense when I was
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in college, But there's a lot of similarities schematically, just
like you said, between a spread option offense and a
power option offense. And the biggest one that we got
to get back is the grittiness, the toughness, the work ethic,
the physicality. You can be physical in any type of offense.
You don't have to have a fullback in the back
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field to do that, and um, you know, we're taking
our first two steps, but I can't wait to have
a really physical football field on on the field again,
a Nebraska looking football team out there. Okay, so you
mentioned Nebraska looking football team. So the couple of things
you always had was right, Uh. In addition to the
running backs and the fullbacks and athletic quarterbacks, you had
a great offensive line, but you also had the black
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shirts on defense. How how difficult is it going to
be to rebuild on the defensive side of the ball,
especially considering, you know, the move to the Big Ten.
While financially it's a windfall, it does take you out
of the state of Texas, you know, on a weekly basis,
it does kind of change having recruit and again going
back to when you were in school, you guys were
great in the Northeast Big and Jersey and recruiting, and
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even that's changed, not just with Penn State being in
the Big Ten, but but also you know, Big East
teams becoming a CC teams. How difficult is it going
to be to get the level of athleticism in that
defensive backfield that you guys had when Nebraska was great.
I don't think it's real difficult at all. A lot
of the things that you're saying, I've heard a bunch,
and to be honest with you, I think their excuses. Um.
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We we went through this last recruiting cycle and only
had about two weeks to work before the first signing day,
in six weeks before the second. Uh. And I love
where we finished. And a lot of those kids are
on the field and and doing great things already. Um.
We were created kids from Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, New Jersey, Minnesota, Nebraska, Colorado, California. Um,
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people are gonna want to come, especially if we do
things the right way, which we're going to do things
the way that we're going to Um, kids are gonna
want to come. And which league we're playing in isn't
gonna make a difference. Um, we just have to make
sure that we're functioning the right way. And you said
building rebuilding, but to me, it's more about building. Um.
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We got to build the roster. We got to build
each individual kid. When you look at Nebraska teams back
when Nebraska was great, there was a hallmark, and that
was we were bigger and stronger and better for the
physical condition than everybody else, and and a lot of
that work in the weight room hasn't been there in
recent years. Um, we're going to do more with kids
once we get to campus than almost anybody else in
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the country. We have the people and the resources set
up to do that, and we just need some time
to get it done. You know. It's interesting. I interviewed
for my mother. Going back was like a year a
year ago, year and a half ago. And my wife's
hesitance was She's like, look, they love you back there,
but what if it doesn't work right? Like, what if
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it doesn't work? Like? Can you go home again? Has that?
Did that ever creep into your conversations with Nebraska or
at least into into your mindset and your your conversation
with your wife in returning home. Yeah, it's definitely more
of a fish bowl here, and we definitely thought about that.
If if things go the way that we're planning on
them going, it's gonna be, uh, one of the best
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experiences of my life. But it's a little scary not
to not to succeed. Um, especially when you're in your hometown. Um,
all we can do is put our down heads down
and work and make sure that that doesn't happen. And
I love what we've done already in the progress that
we've made. UM. And also tell you that you know,
any any thought about that was far outweighed by the
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opportunity to be in the same hometown as my parents
and and coach Osborne and people that I care about. Um,
that outweighs any potential negative. Okay. So Matt Davidson has
made basically a career out of that one catch, right,
I mean like he has me. He played basketball, he
played one right And for people don't know Matt Davidson,
he's a color commentator I think on football and basketball,
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and like, look, you threw throw a thousand yards, but
you guys didn't throw it a ton. He makes this
one incredible catch where it hit off a Nebraska kids foot.
I'll never forget where I was. I'm in my dorm
room at Oaklahoma State Bennett Hall, and it's a Saturday,
and I'm like streaming around running and I wasn't a brass.
It was just a super super exciting exciting football game. UM. Okay,
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So in how do you how have you been able
to kind of convey what it's going to be like if,
in fact, you get to where you want to get
to to your current group, because you know, like, look,
they've only seen kind of the negativity. And though even
though people show up and it's a big thing, they
don't know what it's like when it's what it was
like when you were there. Have you been able to
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craft a message so that they can understand it? We're
getting there. I think it's lessons that we all have
to learn and that we have to keep teaching. Uh.
You brought up Matt Davison. He's a perfect example of
a Nebraska kid that came here and worked became a
great player. Uh is known throughout the State's popular because
of who he is and what he accomplished. UM, Nebraska's
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a fish bowl that because it's the only show in town.
The entire states behind it. UM. You know, we sold
out a spring game in thirty six hours with eight
seven thousand seats because people are excited about what's going on.
But we're trying to get Nebraska looking and feeling like
it used to and and a lot of that's our
responsibility to educate and improve on the football program and
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the football players. UM. But I'll tell you this. Wherever
I go around the country, I see other fans and
they talk about how how great Nebraska fans are, that
they cheer for the other team as they're coming off
the feet of them, that they're polite, that they're listen,
it's uncomfortable, how nice they are. What is going it's uncomfortable,
how polite, how how how much they pay attention. I remember,
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and I think this is before you went Yes, so
before you went there. Maybe when you were at Stanford.
Remember when Washington came in and Don James team kicked
their ass and the Nebraska fans game a standing ovation
when they ran off the field, I was like, what
is the matter with you people? It's crazy. I was
at that game. I was sitting in the south south
end zone. Um, listen, I want Nebraska looked like it
did before in all areas. And I think maybe even
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the fan base has gotten a little away from that.
And just in the last few years, um, as a
fan base, as a football team, as a football program. Um,
you talked about how polite Nebraska people are. If I
was the recruits parents, this is where I want to
send them because of factors like that, they're not going
to get booed in their own stadium, even if you're
a visiting player. Um. There's so many things special about
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in Nebraska, but it's best asset is its people. And
I want the game game day Saturdays to to look
like the game day Saturdays that I remember. There's there's
no doubt that I think college football needs College football
needs Nebraska to be back back to where it was,
especially the Big Ten. That side of the Big Ten.
You said, Hey, next year, we think we can compete
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for the Big Ten champions or for the Big Ten West, right?
Was that the was that what you said? I think
it's gonna be a steady build. I really do. UM.
I love the progress that I'm seeing already on the field.
I love how our team looks completely different physically than
they did in January. UM. But I'm not kicking the
can down the road to next year. We got too
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many competitive people that want to prove something. And I
can't wait for this year because I think people are
going to recognize the strides that that this program has made,
and I think we're gonna have a team that's not
gonna not just gonna lay down and look for next year. UM.
I can't wait to start competing this year. But however
good we are this year, we better be better than
that the next year and even better the following. Yeah,
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you see a Tanner said Tanner. Farmer said at at
the media session, I think was yesterday said I don't
just want to win a Big ten championship. I don't
win the championship. That's my goal. A lot of people
saying winning a national championship isn't a realistic goal. I'm
not about being realistic. I wanted all go bigger, go home.
And then he dropped the mic. It's not bad. Well,
you don't want any kids playing for you. They don't
feel that way. Um, So I love that he says that.
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I love that spirit. We had a whole team full
of those guys when I was playing, and anything short
of of the things that he's talking about wasn't good enough.
So if I can have a hundred fifty kids thinking
that way, I'll take them. Well, listen, we wish you
the best of luck. The schedule makers, did you know
favors for people who haven't been paying attention? You know,
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of the top teams you play Michigan on the road,
you play Wisconsin on the road. You play Ohio State
in the road, you play Iowa on the road this year,
you do you don't get Penn State, uh this year.
But man, that's a there's all sorts of do. That's
a that's a doozy. Um. Can't wait. I can't wait
for the day when two we're saying, Oh, the schedulemakers
did us bad. We have to play in the breath.
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Great stuff, Scott, thanks so much for joining us. Look
forward to talking to during the year and can't wait
to see you your football team on September one against Accharin.
Appreciate being our guest. Appreciate it. Thanks Scott Frost, head
coach of Nebraska. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug Dot Leaps Show week days in noon eastern
three pm Pacific. All right, speaking of dumb, they're only
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like two hundred people. But this is the way it
works in two in two thousand eighteen, when there's a
small brust protest but it gets put on Facebook or
gets put on Twitter or gets put on TV, we
all of a sudden freak out. So the first thing
is this is a there's a hundred thousand plus fans
at Ohio State games on Saturdays and there's only like
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somewhere around a hundred two hundred people at this protest
rally yesterday. Um, I'm not going to criticize Zekei Elliott's
dad showing up and supporting urban Meyer because ezekiellet has
had off the field issues. I'm not I think you're
looking at We're being way. There's just way too many
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steps to get to that. What I am going to
be critical of ezekiel It's dad is the reason why
he's showing up and supporting urban Meyer. Take a listen, Well,
anybody abuses a woman is not right first and foremost,
and I know Erban Meyer would never condone a woman
being abused, So those who abuse women need to stop
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right now. But the truth of the matter, based on
what we all know, he handled the situation according to
how his job required him too. So the whole him
in this situation where he gotta deal with his emotions,
not being with his boys and representing his university with
the utmost integrity is wrong. Yeah, the problem is that
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he's right. Everyone believes the domestic islands is wrong. And
if he definitely went through the proper channels, I think
I could understand some support, but the idea that Ezeki
Elliott's father knows what urban Meyer did is laughable. That's
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the problem with it. We don't know. That's why they're
conducting an investigation. Also, the idea is, even if he
did go through the proper channels twofold one, he allowed
a guy to be around the program that had multiple
calls from his wife. Like, that's just a bad look.
Just is like when there's that much smoke, you think
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there's some fire. But okay, let's say he didn't do
what we what the pictures and the digital evidence links
him and doing okay, or maybe he did but urban
Meyer kicked it up the food chain or whatever. Um,
how come irban Meyer doesn't get criticized for black lee
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and obviously lying to the media and walking him self
into this corner. These wounds are self inflicted. I mean,
look the idiocy of having fake news signs and ESPN.
ESPN didn't even break the story, right Brett McMurphy was
let go from ESPN and works for Satellite Now and
a stadium now excuse me, and put the story out
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on Facebook. So the the idea that ESPN somehow is
fake news. By the way, ESPN conducted an interview with
I'm defending a company I used to work for, and
to the idiot who put the hashtag me too and
then had it about football. I don't like who creates
these these It's not that if you know everything and
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you want to support your coach, that's fine, but you
don't know, so you're blindly supporting based upon what you
think and what you want, not what you know. The
crazy part about it is this is more the right.
This is more of the people who are you know,
(29:09):
anti me too, anti you know, and they think, look,
this is nothing but lynch mob mentality, and we're going
after anybody associated with anything ever. Yuh. But they're going
with their feelings, not with the facts. Right. Isn't that
their argument always? Isn't that the rights argument for the left,
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that the left always goes with feelings not with facts.
That's what the right is doing. That's what these people
are doing. They're going with feelings. I think, I know
you don't know anything. You think you know rban Meyer.
Why because he recruited your son and coach your son
for three years. You don't know anything nothing? Did you
know that? Zack Smith was accused of these things urban
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Meyer did and apparently didn't do anything about it. Even
if Zack Smith didn't do what he's accused of doing,
the fact that he was still around the program not
getting therapy, that Ermire didn't step in and say at
the pointy and said, look, I knew this is a
toxic relationship. I urged Za time and again to get
out of it because ultimately it would come to a head,
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and he did not, now that he lost his job. Instead,
he told us he didn't know anything about it, which
he obviously did if we're to believe his story. So
a man who can lie to the country at Big
ten Media Day can't lie to you because you coached
his son. Okay. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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I understand that sometimes you hear you think you hear
politics on sports radio and you immediately want to go like,
I'm not talking politics, right, but I'll use a political
(30:58):
reference to make a ton of sensor. Look, I don't
care who you voted for or or what your political affiliation.
But if you were, if you had any brains at all,
and I do think that a lot of people in
power have brains, or at least people around the people
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in power have brains. If I was telling the president,
all you should do, if even if you tweet, is
just tweet every day, every morning, the economy. Now. Look,
the people don't like Trump can say, look, the tax
cuts ultimately heard us. They can say Obama left him
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the economy in great shape and rescued it from you know,
the greatest collapse since the Depression, etcetera, etcetera. But if
if if I was advising the president, that's a winning topic.
There's no fight, there's there's nothing. Unemployment is like three
point nine. This should be he should be taking victory laps,
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high fiving people, get up and give a speech and
just say the economy and sit back down. Nothing else,
nothing else. He's like no one could ever I know,
just stand up and go the President's here, he's everybody's
winning the economy. That's it, and then walk out. That
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was the whole idea of the guy right was he's
a businessman and he can fix the business. And it's
pretty hard to argue there are there are there factors
that have helped it? Sure? Are there things that he's
doing that might well actually hurt um, his his core flaw,
his some of his success. Sure, But if you simply
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if for the next two and a half years he
just said that, he just said the economy and nothing else,
dude would win by a landslide. Matter of fact, um
polling last week showed that the president had made substantial
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gains in the African American community. That was before he
called out Lebron James and Don Lemon, called Don Lemon
the dumbest guy on TV and said that he made
Lebron James look smart, which is hard to do. Um.
You know, like I'm a Mike guy, right, Donald Trump
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should be should be congratulated right now for one, I've
all this is the it's the greatest upset in the
history of political science. Took down fifteen establishment Republicans and
the Clintons to win the highest office public service. Right,
But instead the Republicans, many of them, are fighting for
(33:52):
their lives in midterm elections. Why is that? Because of
social media? Because of Twitter? Because he can't help himself,
he can't help him He wants to fight every battle,
he watches TV, see somebody say something negative about him,
and he's got to come back at them. He's got it.
What do they call it, He's got a clap back? Correct?
Is that? Is this an accurate assessment? Right? So many
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of the things that he does, it's about the tweets
that he sends out. If he simply somebody simply took
away his Twitter or he only tweeted out the economy
every day, there's really no competition out there for you
know who that is In sports, It's Kevin Durant, Kevin Wrnt,
(34:37):
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant has one two straight finals MVP.
He has two NBA championships. He also he also has
a previous league MVP. He's in a He's in one
of the top ten cities in the entire world, in
San Francisco. He is revere heard for his talent. Matter
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of fact, his pull up jump shot as a seven
footer is widely regarded as an unstoppable, unblockable shot, the
likes of which we have not seen since you go
Jordan Kobe's fade away, but maybe even Kareem abdul Jabar
skyhook like I believe that Kevin Durant is the best
player in the NBA. Why isn't he viewed as such?
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Is it because he left the Thunder and went to
the Warriors who had won seventy three games and had
beaten the Thunder a little bit? But the truth is
that trying to fight every fight on social media, trying
to tell people this is who I really am and
clap back at people, and first he had the Burner
accounts and then it was his own account. There's no
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difference between the two. Both should be revered. Both should
be celebrated because if you if you question Kevin Durant,
you say, hey, Kendre, you left the Thunder or you
did this? All he has to do is go that
one but to championship rings, not one, but two finals MVP.
By the way, who was guarding him when he hit
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the game the game the series clinching shot in both
of the past two NBA finals, that would be Lebron James.
So he beat Lebron in the last two finals. Whether
that was a fair fight or not doesn't even matter. No,
it matters. He won two finals MVPs, two championships, has
an m v P and they're likely gonna win a third.
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But instead of tweeting out rings or finals, MVPs or
all he has to do is a A A. It's
called a gift, a gift of his game winning jump
shot in game three of either the past two series.
If he just did that, there's no arguing with it. Well,
I got not I got nothing I can do. You
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can throw out me Lebron stats. You're gonna throw out
me Kobe's rings. You can do this, you can do that.
But as of right now, he is king of the
Hill and there is nobody taking the Warriors down next year.
Correct and any different than Trump
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I'm not sure if you're aware, but last night it
was announced that there'd be a three part doc docuseries
on Showtime called shut Up in Dribble. It's gonna debut
in October, the same month that Lebron James gonna suit
(00:43):
up for the l A Lakers. The series is gonna
look at the changing role of athletes and the current
political culture and the cultural climate against the backdrop of
the NBA. James is the executive producer of the series,
along with Maverick Carter and his agent Rich Paul Gotham Chopra,
who did Kobe Bryant's mus in two thousand fifteen, also
(01:05):
that was the Showtime show will direct the series. So
like Look they Got Like Legit a legit guy doing
this thing. There's also an HBO show called The Shop.
That's the barbershop deal, right that he had he had
previously had and argued with people that somehow he invented
this barbershop talk thing. Remember that. Uh. Then apparently there's
(01:28):
a CBS show called Million Dollar a Mile. He's the
executive producer of a competition series that um has been
ordered by CBS. Yeah, a million Dollar Mile. Contestants will
have a chance to win one million dollars every time
they run the million dollar Miles. Standing in their way
is a challenging course and group of elite athletes with
(01:49):
one mission stop the contestants from winning money at all
court costs. Right, So it's gonna come from the executive producers,
a big brother, etcetera, etcetera. Oh yeah, and apparently there's
some other show that's gonna be on Netflix. Yeah, he's
got another one on Netflix, like Lebron James is going
(02:10):
to be have a show on Netflix, have a show
on CBS, have a show on Showtime, have a show
on HBO to those of you're not paying attention to
have a show on Showtime and Hbo albeit different. Once
that docuseries you know, the other one is uh, the
(02:31):
other one is is a kind of different type of show,
and then the one on uh Netflix is going to
be uh uh, it's gonna be like a situation comedy,
not a rom coma situation comedy. And then have a
game show essentially every type of show, every type of
show he's gonna have with a different network that would
(02:54):
be like, hey, look, yes, I wear Nike shoes, but
I wear Adetas shorts, I wear stand socks, and my
headband is provided by somebody altogether different. So Lebron takes
l a is really amazing. And by the way, it
does fit into the narrative that people have said, you
know what, basketball is not the most important thing to him.
(03:19):
I am more. Think about even what Lebron James is
saying himself, I'm more than an athlete. Companies have done
this before and they have failed. For example, if you
get away from your core audience, your core audience well
will sometimes lose interest. The two most prominent examples of
(03:40):
that of the NHL and NASCAR. How popular is the
NHL and NASCAR look? They were on fire in the nineties.
On fire, of course, Los Angeles was helped out with
the fact that they got Wayne Gretzky once the great
One came to town. All of a sudden, La for
some reason, cared about hockey. The Kings have won two
(04:01):
Stanley Cups, but they don't not even a blip on
the sports radar in Los Angeles. Remember the Atlanta Thrashers.
Think about the disaster that Phoenix has been in the
National Hockey League. They departed cities like Winnipeg and others
in Canada suddenly were not important to the league. Now, look,
(04:23):
the NHL has done a really nice job of getting
back to their core audience as they've kind of retracked,
and they're back in Winnipeg and and and they're they're
doing well on you know, uh, they have their own
NHL network on NBCSN and you know, they have some
they got the outdoor game every year right around Christmas time.
(04:44):
But the fact is that the NHL got away from
their core audience. And even though we like hockey, we
don't know hockey, we know anything about it. Why because
nobody plays hockey growing up, Nobody talks about hockey. The
too many players, too many players that we didn't watch
growing up. We can't their faces we can only see
their numbers. It's not that hockey isn't a cool sport.
It is just Look, I've been doing this for fifteen years.
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Nobody gives a damn about hockey. The same thing with NASCAR.
NASCAR was big in the South, big in the Midwest.
Then they go to Fontana on California Speedway, which is awesome.
And don't get me wrong, there's just as many Rednecks
that love race car, love racing in Fontana as there
are are in Talladega. But what you do is same
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thing as the NHL. You end up taking off your
core audience. They're like, Yo, you've forgotten us, You've gone Hollywood,
You've gone to all these other stops instead of paying
attention to what's important. And NASCAR has seen their ratings
plummet even as they try and get back to what
their core is now. Look, there are other factors that
play for the NHL over expansion. Um. The fact is
(05:52):
that's just a hard watch on TV. It's hard to
pick up the puck. It's hard to know what's going on.
We didn't grow up watching the sport. Like there's some
other factors. But the fact is that the NHL got
away from their core audience and over expanded into markets
that weren't familiar and that weren't part of that core audience.
And one of the reason is that there's a bunch
of reasons the NHL is far more healthy now. One
is they've set their salary scale, salary structure a lot
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more soundly. But I think the biggest part is they've
gotten back to their core audience. NASCAR essentially will do
the same. And that's the danger of what Lebron James
is doing. It's not that he can't do a movie
here spacem two. It's not that he can't produce a
show there. It's once you start producing multiple shows, once
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you start doing appearances and movies and movie premieres. Plus
your father, and he is an engaged father. I'm not
being critical the fact that he shows up at his
son's games, but there's a reason. There's there's more than
one reason that he doesn't want to practice. He only
wants to do his personal workouts like he is time regimented. Look, dude,
I got two hours our workout our to work on
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my game and then I'm out, and then I'm a corporation.
I got all this other stuff. So all of those
things that some people have been even what Charles Barkley said,
Charles Barkley says it, and you think he's a hater,
he's old school. Was he wrong? What's more important to
him winning basketball games or being a mogul? I mean, look,
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you said, Colins said, oh year long, he wants to
be a mogul. He wants to be a mogul. Now
you are a mogul. Can you satisfy your core audience?
Because what makes Lebron James what what validated Lebron James
calling himself the king at a very young age was
winning NBA championships, right, And the more things you throw
(07:44):
on somebody's plate, the less you pay attention to the
basketball team. He's already gone to an organization which is
not a perfect fit for a coach who has not
coached a team into the playoffs yet, who wasn't hired
by the front office. He got this isle of misfit
to ways that you've collected Lance Stevenson and um Shoot
(08:05):
re Gen Rondo and others on that bench. Then you
got the starters, you got LaVar Ball, you got all
this other stuff, which is your core which has made
you what you are. Look, say what you want about
Michael Jordan's. It's really cool to be critical of Michael Jordan's.
Michael Jordan did have been his business interests. Michael Jordan
did play golf, He did smoke cigars, he did play poker.
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He did always something. But you know what else he did.
He did the breakfast club every day, he had the
guys over at his house where he had a gym
and he worked out. He did go to practice. He
never lost track of what the core of what he
was is right, never lost sight of that. And maybe
the reason that he retired was he was ticked at
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the bulls. Maybe it was because he was done, or
maybe it was because he knew that was the last
time he could give all of his attention or the
most important part of his attention to his sport. Because
part of the Lord to Jordan was never lost in
the finals. Now, maybe Lebron it doesn't matter to some
he never gets back. We can make the excuse that
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it's in the West. If he never gets back, we
can make the excuse that he was coached by Luke
Walton and it was magic. And Rob Polinka is inability
to put a team around him. But the idea that
anyone who says Lebron James he is going to the
Lakers for basketball reasons. All of these announcements Showtime, HBO, Netflix,
(09:32):
CBS in succession. Even the interview after he opens a
school and Acronto which he says maybe I'll run for president,
only feeds into the narrative and makes it more believable
when he says I'm more than a basketball player. Maybe
(09:52):
you don't want to play basketball anymore. These people that say, well,
basketball is not who I am. It isn't I'm not
saying that doesn't dimini. It diminishes you as a human being.
To see you're a great basketball player, but that's what
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the I Heart Radio Whip. Scott Frost join just on
The Doug Outlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coach,
how are you doing well? How are you good? Man? Um? Look,
I I mean being a head coach in Nebraska's obviously
anybody's dream that that plays there, but has it do
you have to wait till your first Saturday on the
field at Memorial Stadium to really to let it sink in.
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Or has it sunk in already? No, I think it's
sunk in. You know, it sinks in when I'm around
so many people that I know and care about, and
so many people that care about me and our staff
and our team and our program. And this is home
for me. Um. Just yesterday practice, Uh, my brother's in
town visit and brought his family, and my parents were there.
Coach Osborne was there. Some friends from Junior High and
(10:59):
m Hook Nebraska were at practice, and uh, we get
to do a special job and it's very rewarding because
because we get to try to help young people be better,
and it's even more rewarding when you're doing it around
friends and family. What was it like as you know, coaching,
you know, going back to coaching Oregon or even at Satral, Florida.
You pay attention to what's going on back home, but
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you also you have a job to do and you
lock in and whatever program you work for becomes your program.
Um was when when did the when did the possibility
of being the head coach in Nebraska really start? To
maybe become a reality, you know, not until really late.
Um you know, some people might not believe it, but um,
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I told everybody all along, I wasn't thinking about any
other job while I was at UCF and and we
were loyal to that uh standard as a coaching staff
because we want to do everything we could for the
kids that were working hard for us. And the bad
part about that was right at the end of the
season when decisions had to be made, A kind of
kind of just landed on us at the end because
we hadn't spent any time thinking about it. Um you know,
(12:05):
Nebraska was always a program that I watched, but um
you know, I kind of felt, uh disconnected from it
for a long time because there weren't people in the
building at Nebraska that I knew, and wasn't a lot
of people there that had been there when I was playing. Um,
we we kind of felt apart from a little bit.
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And uh you know, I said this publicly a lot,
but I don't think i'd be back here if if
the leadership hadn't changed, and there were some people working
on campus that had our best interest at heart, and
some people I wanted to work with. Uh, recently, your
your home was broken into, and I know you guys
are doing work on it, and that's always and I
got work being down to my home, and you know,
(12:46):
there's the trust factor. Did somebody lock something up? And
but but considering like this is your home, it's a
huge thing for you to turn back to end you
to be the head coach like guy like that. Doesn't
that go against like everything this whole thing is about
that somebody break in and steal your stuff. Well, what
got reported was worse than what it actually was. We're
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living in a rental house right now. So the house
that got broken into is one we weren't even in,
which makes it a lot better than my wife and
son weren't in the home. Um, when we first got
in there, every single one of our boxes was cut
open and everything was in a huge pile on the floor.
And the police asked me what I didn't see, and
I gave him a big list. As we were digging
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through the rubble, we found most of this stuff. And um, ironically, UM,
they left almost everything and they took every every piece
of work and everything that I had. UM, which kind
of makes sense because I don't I don't I would
have been surprised if Nebraska fan would have done that
to my house at this point in time. So it
probably wasn't an Abraska fan that did it, and I
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was happy that I didn't lose as much as were
initially thought. Did they did they take the Nebraska rings though, No,
there was two boxes they didn't get opened, and um,
all my rings were in one of the boxes. Um,
and shoot, I told people at my helmet from my
senior year at college in Nebraska was opened and laying
on the floor and still there. And I ran out
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on the field on the last play of the nineties
seven Orange Bowl of our national championship game and grabbed
the ball from coach Osbourne's last play and had it
in a big display case. And they left that. Um,
all they took was all my Oregon Jordan's and a
couple of helmets. That's had to Coach Frost. Thanks for everything,
Marcus Mariota. Uh So, I think it might have been
(14:31):
an Oregon fan or a sneaker head that did it,
But I didn't lose that much. Doug Otlers Show, Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, let's let's talk about the job of
rebuilding Nebraska football what I've always always it's it's kind
of interesting how the world kind of comes full circle.
You know, back when coach Osbourne was there, when you
guys were there, Uh look, you guys were guys are
an option team. Um, and it wasn't that you know,
(14:52):
you you could throw the football, but you you threw
it kind of out of out of option looks. And
that's But but as much as the spread has been
come synonymous with college football, people I think, and you
tell me if I'm wrong, they misassociate some types of
the spread because like, look what what Baylor does. That's
just the veer and then you got one on one
on the outside. Like that's there's a lot of option looks.
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It's kind of like option football has just evolved a
two thousand fifteen. So whereas when Bill Callahan tried to
come in and scrap the whole thing and become a
pro passing game, or even the Mike Riley comes in
and tries to have a pro passing game, there is
a way to to link the old and the new.
Is that is that a fair assessment of some of
the things that you've done everywhere you've been and comparing
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it to when coach Osborne was winning national championships. Yeah. Well,
first of all, I want to thank you for saying
that I could throw the ball, because there will be
a lot of people that would disagree with that. Um, dude,
I saw the ball and I saw the flee flicker.
I was sitting in my I was sitting in my
door room like my sister. Remember that the run game works,
and that's about it. But now you know, college football evolves,
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offenses evolved, and to be honest, if you're getting back
here and getting in the weeds of it, a lot
of um what hasn't been right with Nebraska football, it's
been self inflicted. Uh, it's been decisions to to go
different directions than what had worked at Nebraska for a
long time. And what we do on offense certainly doesn't
look like what I ran an offense when I was
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in college, But there's a lot of similarities schematically, just
like you said, between a spread option offense and a
power option offense. And the biggest one that we got
to get back is the grittiness, the toughness, the work ethic,
the physicality. You can be physical in any type of offense.
You don't have to have a fullback in the back
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field to do that, and um, you know, we're taking
our first two steps, but I can't wait to have
a really physical football field on on the field again,
a Nebraska looking football team out there. Okay, so you
mentioned Nebraska looking football team. So the couple of things
you always had was right, Uh. In addition to the
running backs and the fullbacks and athletic quarterbacks, you had
a great offensive line, but you also had the black
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shirts on defense. How how difficult is it going to
be to rebuild on the defensive side of the ball,
especially considering, you know, the move to the Big Ten.
While financially it's a windfall, it does take you out
of the state of Texas, you know, on a weekly basis,
it does kind of change having recruit and again going
back to when you were in school, you guys were
great in the Northeast Big and Jersey and recruiting, and
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even that's changed, not just with Penn State being in
the Big Ten, but but also you know, Big East
teams becoming a CC teams. How difficult is it going
to be to get the level of athleticism in that
defensive backfield that you guys had when Nebraska was great.
I don't think it's real difficult at all. A lot
of the things that you're saying, I've heard a bunch,
and to be honest with you, I think their excuses. Um.
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We we went through this last recruiting cycle and only
had about two weeks to work before the first signing day,
in six weeks before the second. Uh. And I love
where we finished. And a lot of those kids are
on the field and and doing great things already. Um.
We were created kids from Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, New Jersey, Minnesota, Nebraska, Colorado, California. Um,
(18:08):
people are gonna want to come, especially if we do
things the right way, which we're going to do things
the way that we're going to Um, kids are gonna
want to come. And which league we're playing in isn't
gonna make a difference. Um, we just have to make
sure that we're functioning the right way. And you said
building rebuilding, but to me, it's more about building. Um.
(18:29):
We got to build the roster. We got to build
each individual kid. When you look at Nebraska teams back
when Nebraska was great, there was a hallmark, and that
was we were bigger and stronger and better for the
physical condition than everybody else, and and a lot of
that work in the weight room hasn't been there in
recent years. Um, we're going to do more with kids
once we get to campus than almost anybody else in
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the country. We have the people and the resources set
up to do that, and we just need some time
to get it done. You know. It's interesting. I interviewed
for my mother. Going back was like a year a
year ago, year and a half ago. And my wife's
hesitance was She's like, look, they love you back there,
but what if it doesn't work right? Like, what if
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it doesn't work? Like? Can you go home again? Has that?
Did that ever creep into your conversations with Nebraska or
at least into into your mindset and your your conversation
with your wife in returning home. Yeah, it's definitely more
of a fish bowl here, and we definitely thought about that.
If if things go the way that we're planning on
them going, it's gonna be, uh, one of the best
(19:33):
experiences of my life. But it's a little scary not
to not to succeed. Um, especially when you're in your hometown. Um,
all we can do is put our down heads down
and work and make sure that that doesn't happen. And
I love what we've done already in the progress that
we've made. UM. And also tell you that you know,
any any thought about that was far outweighed by the
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opportunity to be in the same hometown as my parents
and and coach Osborne and people that I care about. Um,
that outweighs any potential negative. Okay. So Matt Davidson has
made basically a career out of that one catch, right,
I mean like he has me. He played basketball, he
played one right And for people don't know Matt Davidson,
he's a color commentator I think on football and basketball,
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and like, look, you threw throw a thousand yards, but
you guys didn't throw it a ton. He makes this
one incredible catch where it hit off a Nebraska kids foot.
I'll never forget where I was. I'm in my dorm
room at Oaklahoma State Bennett Hall, and it's a Saturday,
and I'm like streaming around running and I wasn't a brass.
It was just a super super exciting exciting football game. UM. Okay,
(20:41):
So in how do you how have you been able
to kind of convey what it's going to be like if,
in fact, you get to where you want to get
to to your current group, because you know, like, look,
they've only seen kind of the negativity. And though even
though people show up and it's a big thing, they
don't know what it's like when it's what it was
like when you were there. Have you been able to
(21:02):
craft a message so that they can understand it? We're
getting there. I think it's lessons that we all have
to learn and that we have to keep teaching. Uh.
You brought up Matt Davison. He's a perfect example of
a Nebraska kid that came here and worked became a
great player. Uh is known throughout the State's popular because
of who he is and what he accomplished. UM, Nebraska's
(21:25):
a fish bowl that because it's the only show in town.
The entire states behind it. UM. You know, we sold
out a spring game in thirty six hours with eight
seven thousand seats because people are excited about what's going on.
But we're trying to get Nebraska looking and feeling like
it used to and and a lot of that's our
responsibility to educate and improve on the football program and
(21:49):
the football players. UM. But I'll tell you this. Wherever
I go around the country, I see other fans and
they talk about how how great Nebraska fans are, that
they cheer for the other team as they're coming off
the feet of them, that they're polite, that they're listen,
it's uncomfortable, how nice they are. What is going it's uncomfortable,
how polite, how how how much they pay attention. I remember,
(22:09):
and I think this is before you went Yes, so
before you went there. Maybe when you were at Stanford.
Remember when Washington came in and Don James team kicked
their ass and the Nebraska fans game a standing ovation
when they ran off the field, I was like, what
is the matter with you people? It's crazy. I was
at that game. I was sitting in the south south
end zone. Um, listen, I want Nebraska looked like it
did before in all areas. And I think maybe even
(22:33):
the fan base has gotten a little away from that.
And just in the last few years, um, as a
fan base, as a football team, as a football program. Um,
you talked about how polite Nebraska people are. If I
was the recruits parents, this is where I want to
send them because of factors like that, they're not going
to get booed in their own stadium, even if you're
a visiting player. Um. There's so many things special about
(22:55):
in Nebraska, but it's best asset is its people. And
I want the game game day Saturdays to to look
like the game day Saturdays that I remember. There's there's
no doubt that I think college football needs College football
needs Nebraska to be back back to where it was,
especially the Big Ten. That side of the Big Ten.
You said, Hey, next year, we think we can compete
(23:17):
for the Big Ten champions or for the Big Ten West, right?
Was that the was that what you said? I think
it's gonna be a steady build. I really do. UM.
I love the progress that I'm seeing already on the field.
I love how our team looks completely different physically than
they did in January. UM. But I'm not kicking the
can down the road to next year. We got too
(23:37):
many competitive people that want to prove something. And I
can't wait for this year because I think people are
going to recognize the strides that that this program has made,
and I think we're gonna have a team that's not
gonna not just gonna lay down and look for next year. UM.
I can't wait to start competing this year. But however
good we are this year, we better be better than
that the next year and even better the following. Yeah,
(23:59):
you see a Tanner said Tanner. Farmer said at at
the media session, I think was yesterday said I don't
just want to win a Big ten championship. I don't
win the championship. That's my goal. A lot of people
saying winning a national championship isn't a realistic goal. I'm
not about being realistic. I wanted all go bigger, go home.
And then he dropped the mic. It's not bad. Well,
you don't want any kids playing for you. They don't
feel that way. Um, So I love that he says that.
(24:22):
I love that spirit. We had a whole team full
of those guys when I was playing, and anything short
of of the things that he's talking about wasn't good enough.
So if I can have a hundred fifty kids thinking
that way, I'll take them. Well, listen, we wish you
the best of luck. The schedule makers, did you know
favors for people who haven't been paying attention? You know,
(24:42):
of the top teams you play Michigan on the road,
you play Wisconsin on the road. You play Ohio State
in the road, you play Iowa on the road this year,
you do you don't get Penn State, uh this year.
But man, that's a there's all sorts of do. That's
a that's a doozy. Um. Can't wait. I can't wait
for the day when two we're saying, Oh, the schedulemakers
did us bad. We have to play in the breath.
(25:04):
Great stuff, Scott, thanks so much for joining us. Look
forward to talking to during the year and can't wait
to see you your football team on September one against Accharin.
Appreciate being our guest. Appreciate it. Thanks Scott Frost, head
coach of Nebraska. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug Dot Leaps Show week days in noon eastern
three pm Pacific. All right, speaking of dumb, they're only
(25:25):
like two hundred people. But this is the way it
works in two in two thousand eighteen, when there's a
small brust protest but it gets put on Facebook or
gets put on Twitter or gets put on TV, we
all of a sudden freak out. So the first thing
is this is a there's a hundred thousand plus fans
at Ohio State games on Saturdays and there's only like
(25:47):
somewhere around a hundred two hundred people at this protest
rally yesterday. Um, I'm not going to criticize Zekei Elliott's
dad showing up and supporting urban Meyer because ezekiellet has
had off the field issues. I'm not I think you're
looking at We're being way. There's just way too many
(26:11):
steps to get to that. What I am going to
be critical of ezekiel It's dad is the reason why
he's showing up and supporting urban Meyer. Take a listen, Well,
anybody abuses a woman is not right first and foremost,
and I know Erban Meyer would never condone a woman
being abused, So those who abuse women need to stop
(26:34):
right now. But the truth of the matter, based on
what we all know, he handled the situation according to
how his job required him too. So the whole him
in this situation where he gotta deal with his emotions,
not being with his boys and representing his university with
the utmost integrity is wrong. Yeah, the problem is that
(26:56):
he's right. Everyone believes the domestic islands is wrong. And
if he definitely went through the proper channels, I think
I could understand some support, but the idea that Ezeki
Elliott's father knows what urban Meyer did is laughable. That's
(27:17):
the problem with it. We don't know. That's why they're
conducting an investigation. Also, the idea is, even if he
did go through the proper channels twofold one, he allowed
a guy to be around the program that had multiple
calls from his wife. Like, that's just a bad look.
Just is like when there's that much smoke, you think
(27:39):
there's some fire. But okay, let's say he didn't do
what we what the pictures and the digital evidence links
him and doing okay, or maybe he did but urban
Meyer kicked it up the food chain or whatever. Um,
how come irban Meyer doesn't get criticized for black lee
(28:00):
and obviously lying to the media and walking him self
into this corner. These wounds are self inflicted. I mean,
look the idiocy of having fake news signs and ESPN.
ESPN didn't even break the story, right Brett McMurphy was
let go from ESPN and works for Satellite Now and
a stadium now excuse me, and put the story out
(28:23):
on Facebook. So the the idea that ESPN somehow is
fake news. By the way, ESPN conducted an interview with
I'm defending a company I used to work for, and
to the idiot who put the hashtag me too and
then had it about football. I don't like who creates
these these It's not that if you know everything and
(28:49):
you want to support your coach, that's fine, but you
don't know, so you're blindly supporting based upon what you
think and what you want, not what you know. The
crazy part about it is this is more the right.
This is more of the people who are you know,
(29:09):
anti me too, anti you know, and they think, look,
this is nothing but lynch mob mentality, and we're going
after anybody associated with anything ever. Yuh. But they're going
with their feelings, not with the facts. Right. Isn't that
their argument always? Isn't that the rights argument for the left,
(29:31):
that the left always goes with feelings not with facts.
That's what the right is doing. That's what these people
are doing. They're going with feelings. I think, I know
you don't know anything. You think you know rban Meyer.
Why because he recruited your son and coach your son
for three years. You don't know anything nothing? Did you
know that? Zack Smith was accused of these things urban
(29:52):
Meyer did and apparently didn't do anything about it. Even
if Zack Smith didn't do what he's accused of doing,
the fact that he was still around the program not
getting therapy, that Ermire didn't step in and say at
the pointy and said, look, I knew this is a
toxic relationship. I urged Za time and again to get
out of it because ultimately it would come to a head,
(30:14):
and he did not, now that he lost his job. Instead,
he told us he didn't know anything about it, which
he obviously did if we're to believe his story. So
a man who can lie to the country at Big
ten Media Day can't lie to you because you coached
his son. Okay. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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I understand that sometimes you hear you think you hear
politics on sports radio and you immediately want to go like,
I'm not talking politics, right, but I'll use a political
(30:58):
reference to make a ton of sensor. Look, I don't
care who you voted for or or what your political affiliation.
But if you were, if you had any brains at all,
and I do think that a lot of people in
power have brains, or at least people around the people
(31:19):
in power have brains. If I was telling the president,
all you should do, if even if you tweet, is
just tweet every day, every morning, the economy. Now. Look,
the people don't like Trump can say, look, the tax
cuts ultimately heard us. They can say Obama left him
(31:40):
the economy in great shape and rescued it from you know,
the greatest collapse since the Depression, etcetera, etcetera. But if
if if I was advising the president, that's a winning topic.
There's no fight, there's there's nothing. Unemployment is like three
point nine. This should be he should be taking victory laps,
(32:04):
high fiving people, get up and give a speech and
just say the economy and sit back down. Nothing else,
nothing else. He's like no one could ever I know,
just stand up and go the President's here, he's everybody's
winning the economy. That's it, and then walk out. That
(32:25):
was the whole idea of the guy right was he's
a businessman and he can fix the business. And it's
pretty hard to argue there are there are there factors
that have helped it? Sure? Are there things that he's
doing that might well actually hurt um, his his core flaw,
his some of his success. Sure, But if you simply
(32:47):
if for the next two and a half years he
just said that, he just said the economy and nothing else,
dude would win by a landslide. Matter of fact, um
polling last week showed that the president had made substantial
(33:08):
gains in the African American community. That was before he
called out Lebron James and Don Lemon, called Don Lemon
the dumbest guy on TV and said that he made
Lebron James look smart, which is hard to do. Um.
You know, like I'm a Mike guy, right, Donald Trump
(33:28):
should be should be congratulated right now for one, I've
all this is the it's the greatest upset in the
history of political science. Took down fifteen establishment Republicans and
the Clintons to win the highest office public service. Right,
But instead the Republicans, many of them, are fighting for
(33:52):
their lives in midterm elections. Why is that? Because of
social media? Because of Twitter? Because he can't help himself,
he can't help him He wants to fight every battle,
he watches TV, see somebody say something negative about him,
and he's got to come back at them. He's got it.
What do they call it, He's got a clap back? Correct?
Is that? Is this an accurate assessment? Right? So many
(34:14):
of the things that he does, it's about the tweets
that he sends out. If he simply somebody simply took
away his Twitter or he only tweeted out the economy
every day, there's really no competition out there for you
know who that is In sports, It's Kevin Durant, Kevin Wrnt,
(34:37):
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant has one two straight finals MVP.
He has two NBA championships. He also he also has
a previous league MVP. He's in a He's in one
of the top ten cities in the entire world, in
San Francisco. He is revere heard for his talent. Matter
(35:01):
of fact, his pull up jump shot as a seven
footer is widely regarded as an unstoppable, unblockable shot, the
likes of which we have not seen since you go
Jordan Kobe's fade away, but maybe even Kareem abdul Jabar
skyhook like I believe that Kevin Durant is the best
player in the NBA. Why isn't he viewed as such?
(35:26):
Is it because he left the Thunder and went to
the Warriors who had won seventy three games and had
beaten the Thunder a little bit? But the truth is
that trying to fight every fight on social media, trying
to tell people this is who I really am and
clap back at people, and first he had the Burner
accounts and then it was his own account. There's no
(35:48):
difference between the two. Both should be revered. Both should
be celebrated because if you if you question Kevin Durant,
you say, hey, Kendre, you left the Thunder or you
did this? All he has to do is go that
one but to championship rings, not one, but two finals MVP.
By the way, who was guarding him when he hit
(36:09):
the game the game the series clinching shot in both
of the past two NBA finals, that would be Lebron James.
So he beat Lebron in the last two finals. Whether
that was a fair fight or not doesn't even matter. No,
it matters. He won two finals MVPs, two championships, has
an m v P and they're likely gonna win a third.
(36:33):
But instead of tweeting out rings or finals, MVPs or
all he has to do is a A A. It's
called a gift, a gift of his game winning jump
shot in game three of either the past two series.
If he just did that, there's no arguing with it. Well,
I got not I got nothing I can do. You
(36:55):
can throw out me Lebron stats. You're gonna throw out
me Kobe's rings. You can do this, you can do that.
But as of right now, he is king of the
Hill and there is nobody taking the Warriors down next year.
Correct and any different than Trump
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