BKR: Jalen Ramsey Has A Lot To Say

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Ramos is here as well. On this hump day, I
think Jaws five is coming out alright, Yeah, Jaws five,
Jaws meaning the jaw of Jalen Ramsey, Yes, gobbling up
every NFL quarterback that you can find, spinning out analysis
that you may agree with, that you may not agree with.
But Jalen Ramsey, the Jacksonville Jaguar's corner who has never

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been shy to say anything, kind of John Ramos esque Jonas.
When you when you hear Jalen Ramsey or you read
what Jalen Ramsey says, it is very John Ramos ask
when it comes to how John likes to take shots
at people on social media. Yeah, Jalen Ramsey slowly becoming
the most arrogant individual in the US whose initial start

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with j R. Which is tough to do, considering, Uh,
we've got a blow hard who's got his own segment
coming up an hour three called the John Rama. That
is your Jalen Ramsey did not hold back and giving
his assessment of many NFL quarterbacks and a piece that
was in GQ magazine and it's an interesting piece and
how it's laid out. Jonas and I think that it's

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it's important to do two things. Number One, on this program,
I know you were playing airport roulette. You were going
in different places. You were gonna take off a nice
a nice six hour flight turns into the eighteen hours
or something like that. It's so much fun. But yesterday
with Rob Parker and I were here, we talked about
Jalen Ramsey going after a Jacksonville reporter for putting up

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a video of a fight at training camp, sticking up
for his teammates, as he put it, and then telling
his teammates to not talk to that reporter and threatening
that reporter because of what he posted on social media
after telling them not to. I didn't think that that
was a good practice. I didn't think that Antonio Brown
being mad over a tweet sent by Ed Bouchet of
the Pittsburgh Post Gazette was good practice. I don't think

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that the NFL players should be attacking the media for
what they tweets or what they may put on social
media if it seems to be as fair game as
a training camp fight would be, or Antonio Brown limping
off the field. Jalen Ramsey now comes out today, and no,
it doesn't come out today. The article came out today
in g Q magazine in an interview that he did

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with Clay Skipper, and what we hear from Jalen Ramsey
is his analysis of a majority of the quarterbacks in
the National Football League. But it wasn't a situation where
you had Jalen Ramsey saying, alright, let me break down
these thirty two quarterbacks. Let's start in the a f
C East. Good, bad, awful. It kind of came in
a natural conversation. I think what we can agree on,

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Jonas is that Jalen Ramsey think goodness is speaking his mind,
something that we don't often get in the world of sports. Yeah.
I don't have an issue with it. You can't. You
can't have it both ways. We wish these guys would
say more things. They give to too many cookie cutter responses.
And then when a guy comes out and takes a
sowed off figuratively not literally to half the quarterbacks in

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the NFL, and he's being brutally honest about it and
putting his name on it, I don't have an issue
with it at all. I I wish I wish we
got that kind of honesty more often. And when a
player is taught, there's certain players in the league who
sometimes just talk. Freddie Mitchell, he just talked and he
didn't really deliver, you know, I mean, his his claim

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to fame is he had the belt tuck way before
Aaron Rodgers did, and the Belt championship thing, the rapper
under waist like way before, but he never gets credit
for it. Jalen Ramsey is one of the best players
in football. I would say he's a top ten if
you were starting an NFL team, not a quarterback. If
you were starting a team, I would imagine Jalen Ramsey's

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one of the top guys you think about taking in
the NFL. I think he's probably I think he's a
top two corner in the NFL. I think it's him
or Josh Norman as the best two cornerbacks in the
National Football League, and yeah, he would be a guy
that you would that would be rare. And so when
a guy like that speaks out and gives honest opinions,
and again they're just his opinions about quarterbacks around the NFL,

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you can either dismiss the comments and say, well, he's
just that's a guy just talking trash, or you can
look at it and go, well, I don't know. You
hear some of the stuff that he had to say,
and it seems like he pays attention to what goes
on in college He's watching what's happening. When he threw
Josh Allen under the bus, it wasn't like he just said, oh,
this guy stinks. He gave examples as to why this

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guy struggled against top tier teams in college football. So
I don't have an issue with it. I wish more
players were honest like that. And Jalen Ramsey if if
if this is how he goes about his business, I'm
good with it. In the question about Josh Allen, the
Buffalo Bill's quarterback who was never taking an taking an
NFL snap, Ramsey responded responded, excuse me, I think Alan

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is trash. I don't care what nobody say. He's trash
and it's gonna show two. That's a stupid draft pick
to me. We play them this year and I'm excited
as hell. I hope he's there starting quarterback. He played
at Wyoming. Every time they played a big school like
they played, and I think it was Iowa not Iowa State.
But what she said is not a big school in
his opinion, he threw five interceptions and they lost by

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a couple of touchdowns, saying he never beat a big school,
so there was there was data in reasons and why
he thought that Josh Allen wasn't a good quarterback. But
this conversation then was was a a branching off of
the conversation of why Lamar Jackson wasn't drafted higher, and
his explanation on that and why he was wondering why

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Lamar Jackson wasn't drafted higher was if he had the
same traits as Baker Mayfield, and Baker Mayfield went number
one and those traits were worthy of the number one pick.
Why did Lamar Jackson last number thirty two? And why
were other quarterbacks taken before Lamar Jackson was That's where
the point ended up being, and Josh Allen's name was
then brought into it because of the fact that he

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was taken ahead of Lamar Jackson. The other quarterbacks that
he talked about there were a bunch started out in
a way of who are the quarterbacks that you don't
think suck? That was the question to Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers,
Tom Brady, Marcus Mariotto, he faces twice a year, Tara Taylor,
he says, is a better quarterback than he gets credit for.
And he goes on to say that Carson Wentz into

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Shawn Watson from the Eagles and the Texans respectively, will
be battling for the next five or ten years for
m v PS. All of this is really good stuff, Jonas,
because we don't know what it's like to be a
cornerback in the National Football League and going up against guys,
and he has gone up against guys, and I should
leave out the point where he did say. I did
leave out the point where he said Joe Flacco sucks
because he's actually played against Joe Flacco and says that

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he was not impressed and thinks that Lamar Jackson will
have more of a role in Baltimore. But all of
this is analysis, whether it's taken from watching film, from
playing against guys, from from scouting. This is how Jalen
Ramsey has an opinion of this. All this is all
that we want from NFL players. I don't, Yeah, I don't.
I don't have an issue with it. Like I said,
if we get so tired of Belichick doesn't give us

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any responses, we get so tired of Tom Brady never
gives us, gives us any real answers. Tom Brady walked
out of a press conference and that was the story
of the day because all he said was it's ridiculous
to ask about P. E. D. S. I'm out see
you guys, And that turned to do a big story
because he doesn't speak. If Jalen Ramsey is going to
open up and give actual and not just surface sort

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of takes and surface sort of opinions and provide data
to go along with it. To your point, that's I'm
good with it. I don't. I don't have an issue whatsoever.
But I think he needs to be careful of though.
Is the more you say, the less meaning that it has.
And this is this is the issue that that I
would have with and I don't know if it's if
it's timing, if this was going to be in a

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in a new stand coming up in September, so the
article ends up coming out now. But this is now
the second week in a row of a training camp
where we've had Jalen Ramsey in the news and it's
from what he said and did so for everything that
we said about how great of a player he is,
he also has a pretty strong voice because of how
good he is Jonas And this is what worries me

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is that the more and more that he talks, and
I love the honesty, I would not want it the
other way around. I don't want it like Bill Belichick.
I don't want it like that. But the more and
more that he continues to talk, the less and less
everything that he said prior means there's it's less weight.
And that's where I think you've got to be careful
because if you're talking every single week and making comments

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and strong comments about players, it's just it's not gonna
hold weight. We've seen it before with Tara Owens, Jed Johnson,
LaVar Ball, I mean the biggest one of all. The
more he talks to the less we listen. That's what
scares me about Jalen Ramsey is you gotta be you
gotta be careful, you gotta watch. It doesn't scare me,
but you just gotta watch out on how you deliver
because pretty soon, if you talk too much, words are

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going to be empty. Well. Um, you saw the media's
reaction when it came to Marshawn Lynch after he refused
to speak at the Super Bowl. Every time somebody wanted
to interview Marshawn Lynch, it was like, hey watch this,
Hey Marshawn, your thoughts on the game? Got no thoughts?
What are we doing tickling each other? Like Jesus, the

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guy's not gonna speak. He doesn't want to talk, so
you just walk away. But everybody wanted to go there.
What's gonna happen now is every single media member is
going to try and get a sound bite out of
Jalen Ramsey. The sad part about this whole conversation is
that this wasn't caught on tape, Like there was no
audio of it. Because like, I have a buddy whose
name is Alan, I would love nothing more than to

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have a sound bite that I could send to him
that said, Alan's trash. That's all I want. But we
don't have that now because Jalen Ramsey did it for
an interview with g Ke. So your point, yeah, every
mix is going to be in his face. Um uh,
they're they're all going to be talking to him, They're
all going to to want to get a sound bite
out of him. It's just I'm curious to see what

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he actually thinks about his own quarterback, Blake Bortles. Um
because I know that he gave sort of a a
a standard response of well, you know, he's got to
do what he's gotta do, and I wish he would
have trusted him more and all that. But if he
were not his quarterback, how would he reacted? Because Blake
Bortles has been the laughing stock of quarterback playing in
the NFL for the past couple of years. He had

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a hit a good year last year, he played pretty
well in the postseason, but he's been the butt of
many jokes around the NFL by media and by fans,
and so I find it funny that Jalen Ramsey takes
a shot at Ben Roethlisberger, who's got two super Bowls,
but with his own quarterback. Yeah, I wish he would
have trusted him. They do have they they do have
the the Steelers number Roethlisber. He's picked off Roethlisberger I

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think three times in his career. And we obviously know
what they did in the off C Divisional playoffs with
getting a regular season win that they had earlier. But yeah,
to his point about Bortles as well, what what's interesting
about it is saying that he wished that they had
more confidence in him in that a f C championship
game to throw the ball at the end of the
first half. They also asked how does he do in practice?

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And he says, we don't go up against him in practice,
only in training camp? Do you have the ones and
the ones? Saying that he goes up against the scout
team in practice leading up to games, And then he
said they didn't want to hurt his confidence that going
up against that Jaguars defense. Now there's some there's there's
bravado there for your own team and what you do.

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But also you have to realize that he's wearing the
same helmet and jersey you are, so even though he's
not on the field at the same time, he is
your teammate, and that's not the that's not the most
glowing response that you would have. You would hope that
that defense could maybe toughen him up and show that
he can make the throws. Doesn't seem like that's the
case in Jacksonville. Dan Buyer Jones is Knox in for

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Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. You can get
Dan on Twitter at Dan Buyron Fox. You can get
me at the Jonas Knox and if you would like
to get at Jalen Ramsey has opened up a new
Twitter account for criticisms of quarterbacks around the NFL, but
third string quarterbacks, that is at j S Ramo zero
six if you want to get in touch with with
Jalen Ramsey. Um Coming up next, though, we have got

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some honest evaluations from a guy one of the best
in the business who studies tape. He's been a scout,
he's been a player, He's one of the best in
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Heart Radio app he's Jonas Knox, that's Gen Ramos. I'm
Dan Buyer. We are in for Doug today here on
Fox Sports Radio. Did get a tweet in from Robert
Coleman saying, what had Big Ben throw for against the
Jaguars in the playoffs? Four hundred and sixty nine yards,
five touch downs. Jalen Ramsey's analysis on Big Ben and

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that g Q article, I think he's decent at best.
It's not Big Ben, it's the receivers. It's Antonio Brown.
He's just he just slings it and his receivers go
get it. So that was Jalen Ramsey's defense for having
the Jaguars defense be lit up by Ben Roethlisberger in
a game that Jacksonville one in Ramsey and the Jaguars
are two and oh against Big Ben and the Steelers

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during Ramsey's time there. But just just just add some
context to the situation, uh, that we talked about at
the top, Jalen Ramsey's critique of the quarterbacks in the
National Football League. Joining us now to talk about that
article and everything else that's going on in NFL training camps.
Are good friend from the NFL Network and this Sunday
He'll be co hosting with Calvin Washington from noon until

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three Eastern time right here on Fox Sports Radio. Bucky
Brooks joines, sys Hey, Bucky, how you doing today. I'm good.
I'm good. How you doing? We are doing well. I
know from your tweets you didn't seem to have a
problem with Jalen Ramsey's g Q article. What is a
misconception that people are taking from it that they shouldn't
when you read this article, well, I mean if you

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go through and you really read it. He kind of
outlined the guys that he said like weren't good and
why he didn't feel like Matt Ryan was a guy
that was overrated. Uh. He went the article and stated, look,
Matt Ryan was the m v T with Kyle Shanahan.
I saw what Kyle Shanahan did to Jimmy Garoppolo. Mike
Matt Ryan played without Shanahan. He doesn't look like the

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same player. Maybe it was the coaching not the player. Um.
When he talked about Eli Manning, he talked about the
difference that he is with Odell Beckham Jr. And without
o Bill Odell Beckham Jr. And with Ben Roethlisberger. I
heard you guys talk about how ben I guess list
the Jaguars up from four sixty nine, But you have
to remember the first time that they played them, they

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picked up in Roethlisberger five times in the game that
they beat them thirty to nine or whatever. So for
those guys as players in the way Jalen kind of
sieved it when he plays against those guys, maybe he's saying, look,
these guys are good, but some of these guys are
propped up by the audility pieces around them rather than
them being great players on their own. How similar is

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this to what Kelvin Benjamin had to say about Cam
Newton where people got so caught up in who was
speaking as opposed to what he was really saying. Because
a lot of people may look at what even Kelvin
Benjamin said about Cam Newton said, well he's not wrong.
So do you feel like this is the case maybe
with what's happening with with some of the commentary we're
hearing and some of the pushback in regards to Jalen
Ramsey's comments, Well, I think what you're hearing is the

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pushback on a lot of people have their favorite quarterback,
A lot of people who romantasize about all of their quarterbacks,
their favorite quarterbacks being elite dues. But what you're seeing,
guys that are key to playing with them or against them,
are saying, no, these guys are fine and they're okay,
but there's some flaws with them. And the reason they
talked about the elite because a lot of times guys

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are thrown into that elite quarterback circle easily, but really
the at least when you talk to players, it's Tom Brady,
it's Aaron Rodgers. They will throw Drew Brees in there,
and maybe Russell Wilson, but they're not a lot of
guys that they're seeing deserved to be in the v
I P Club. And a lot of times the pushback
comes from us on the other side, the media side,

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thing but no, no, no, no, this guy has to
be an elite player because he's thrown for four thousand
yards and this and that. The players are saying, no,
it's more than the stats. It is really how you
feel or fear that person when they have the ball,
as opposed to, hey, we're just looking at the stats.
You're just saying these guys are great, and all the
guys are not. Bucky Brooks joining us here on the
Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks.

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I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug today, Bucky off the top,
I said something that at least just worried me about.
These comments. Are I think something that Jalen Ramsey needs
to be careful about. And I want to get your thoughts.
Does he need to realize how much a his the
weight that his words carry. But be it also matters
how often he speaks, because now this is the second

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straight week we've seen him in some sort of media
controversy if you will, or comments in the press because
there was the video posted by the reporter that he attacked.
And my worry, Bucky, is this could start if he
keeps talking every week, He's gonna be t l where
we we just we hear the noise, but maybe we're
not listening. Is that something Jalen Ramsey needs to be

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worried about? Um? No, I don't think there's something that
he never needs to be worried about, because I think
the incidents are two separate different things. Um. I think
the incident with the video and then attacking the local
reporter like that was out of line that was out
of bounds. However, I will tell you annoying Jalen since
he was in high school and being around him, like, man,
sometimes it's hard to those guys that choke it down

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when they're alpha dogs and we love the pilociousness and
the gladiate the mentality. We can't expect them to turn
that off when we want them to turn it off.
Sometimes they are what they are when it comes to
these comments. I just find it interesting. Everybody is like, hey,
we would love our athletes to talk beyond the cliches.
We really want to hear them say it. But then

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when they give you some real stuff, everyone like, oh
my god, how could you say that? So I think
we have to be trouble. What do we really want?
Do we really want people to give their honest opinion
or do we want them to give button of responses
that don't make us uncomfortable if that opinion is a
little different than what we think. Bucky Brooks with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas knocks Stan Buyer in
for Doug Gottlieb. Bucky moving on to just the rookie

(18:29):
quarterbacks that were taken and if have already played in
the NFL preseason. I know we're just a game in
and this is all a projection, but which of the
rookie quarterbacks that you've seen thus far did you have
the most concern about over some of the some of
the issues they may have had in their first games.
I mean, I think it's early. I would say that

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for the majority of the quarterback that we saw play
the rookie they all kind of played like they have
played in college. Um. Baker Mayfield was an active quarterback college.
He kind of played like that. Uh. Sam Donald was
an improvisational specialist. He did that. Josh Rosen needs to
be protected to throw. I think the big thing is
Josh Allen is what we thought Josh Allen was. He

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is going to davis you and tease you with some
wild plays, but he's also going to make some mistakes
and some flubs that kind of leaves you scratching your head.
And the big thing that you have to worry about
if you're Buffalo, how do I build an offense around
the player that has kind of built like that. Um,
a guy that has not necessarily the most accurate thrower,
but he has tremendous talent in the draft, leading up

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to the draft or whatever. I said, Look, this dude
is kind of like a version of Cam Newton, and
I believe that some of the fascination that Buffalo had
with them, they had guys that were in Carolina when
Camp was in. They win the Super Bowl with Camp.
They feel like they probably can build a team that
allows Josh Allen to be the dude that he is,
take advantage of his wild talent, but also lived through
some of the inconsistencies that would come along with his game. Bucky,

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who do you think starts first? Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield?
Sam Donald? Um, I think Sam Donner is going to start,
probably from week one. I think the funny thing to
me about the Baker Mayfield conversation is, look, I understand
he's a number one overall pick, and I understand that
people were excited about what they saw, but when you
really looked at the game, he's eleven for twenty yet
two on the yards, Tyrod Taylor was Spotify nine of

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n yards went up and down the field where he
was there. I know people want to see Baker Mayfield
get on the field, and I know there's a bit
of that underdog story even though you can't really be
an underdog weed the number one overall pick. I just
believe Tyrod Taylor is a good quarterback. Tyrod Taylor took
a franchise to the playoffs this season ago. The Cleveland
Browns are trying to gain some respectability. I think the

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best way for them to do that is to go
to the vetteran. He's gonna take care of the ball
and it's probably best position to help them win games.
Which rookie quarterback has the most around him to be
successful should they start year one, I would say probably
Baker Mayfield is the most around him. When you look
at if Baker Mayfield starts, you donna have Josh Landry,

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one of more prolisted young receivers in football. Eventually, Josh
Gordon is going to be back, and when he's been
on the field, he's been nothing short of sensational. And
then depending upon any other pieces that they had, David
and Joeku is a solid tide end they got running
back in the backfield. If they get another weapon like
a dead brand, another playmaker, he will have a compliment
of playmakers to really just kind of lean on and

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to drive the bus as opposed to having to do
everything like Sam Donna is going to have to do
in New York because because I know it's Sam Donald
and he looked good and and the idea is what
you know, he's getting first team reps now. But they
open up Monday night football against Detroit, Matt Patricia making
his debut. It's on the road. If you're the Jets,
would you be a little hesitant to put him in

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that situation to start out? Or do you feel like
with the media there, it being New York, they want
to get this thing going and get it turned around fast,
sooner rather than later. Well, I think obviously if you're
the coach's staff in the front offs, you don't make
necessarily decisions based on what the media is saying and
what they're doing. A lot of that is in between
the lines. I think it's been very very telling when
you've heard players talk about Sam Donald, players on his

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own team talk about him just kind of going put
his head down, going to work. Didn't you hear Josh
Norman talk about little Man. We tried to fool, We
tried to trick him, he didn't make mistakes. You really
don't feed young players play like that. I think what
is happening. Sam Donald's game is really doing the talking.
That's why there's being kind of the rush to maybe
put him on the field because what we've seen the

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two young quarterbacks and Jered Golf and Carson Wentz. So
they went through their struggles their fostseason, their second season,
teams were able to assess what they needed surrounding with
the right weapons, and then those guys games took off.
I think in New York they could probably follow a
similar blueprint. Bucky Brooks at the NFL Network joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio this Sunday, You'll be hosting
with Calvin Washington from noon until three right here on

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FS are last one for me? Do the Browns really
need does Bryant? I do think they will need a
guy like Dev Bryant. And the reason why is the
only guy I think is really establishing their wide receiver
corps is Jarvis Landry. We don't know when Josh Gordon
is coming back, but let's just say he comes back.
That third receiver position with more teams are playing about
seventy percent at a time as a walker. Look, I

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like Antonio Callaway. I think his talent was first round
worthy but look, he just got in some trouble. We
don't know if you really can rely on him. I
would rather have a former pro bowler and Dez Bryant
come in play a role and kind of has success,
I believe, and I think this is the important thing
to understand. A wrote about a couple of weeks ago,
Todd Haley has had at your mindous amount of success

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his career, An Kwan Bolden, Keyshawn Johnson, tar Owens, Larry
fas Gerald, on and on and on. He understands how
to kind of put those guys in a position where
they can have some opportunities. I believe if he got
Dez brand he would put dead Bland in a situation
where he could play to his strength and he would
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thanks so much for the time. I appreciate it. Dan
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in this one. So far, he's got seven strikeouts in
five innings, but does give up three earned runs so
far in that contest. And then one other game, White
Sox are doubling up the Tigers six to three. It's
in the top of the ninth inning from Detroit off
the Diamond, Seattle Mariners head place picture. James Paxston on
the ten Dade d L with the Left Forum contusion.
So far the season ten and five record with an

(26:24):
e L right just over three and a half. Guys,
back to you, thank you very much. Davis is gott
Leap Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks, that's
John Ramos, I'm Dan Buyer. We are all in for
Doug Today. Tomorrow preseason football features the Eagles and Patriots playing.
How about that guy's little Super Bowl rematch? And I

(26:46):
would I would guess, and I'll ask John Ramos this. John.
If I were to say to you, of the two
Super Bowl participants that we saw in February and Minneapolis,
Eagles and Patriots, which team do you feel has the
better chance of making it back to the Super Bowl?
I would say the Patriots. I think that a majority

(27:07):
of the people would say that as well. I think
a vast majority would say that because of their belief
in the Patriots. But Jonas, there is something that is
also to me just off about the Philadelphia Eagles. And
I want you to hear a SoundBite from Carson Wentz.
This is a this is a part of what seems
off about Philadelphia. This is the quarterback earlier this week

(27:27):
talking about his comeback from his knee injury and when
he will play in the regular season. You know, I
would I obviously would love to be out there. Um,
that's that's been my goal all off season, ever since
the injury. And um, it's gonna be close. You know
it's gonna be close. And I'm still I on that date.
But it's at the end of the day, not just
my decision. There's there's coaches and doctors that I really

(27:47):
have the final say. But uh, I really like where
I'm at and time will tell here Carson Wentz with
w y p saying that week one is his goal,
but they just aren't sure. Yeah, there's an easy answer
for that, Carson, it's no, I will not hear ready,
let's go, why don't we Let's not waste time here.
That would be a flat out no. He's not playing
considering considering what happened in the playoffs, right with when

(28:10):
you've got Nick Foles being able to take over, you're
playing a Thursday game. If you sit out that game,
you get a full week plus another a couple of
days to rast or to clean up whatever you need.
I I think that it's I think that it's crazy
to think that the Philadelphia Eagles would want to put
Carson Wentz in that situation. And I'm just wondering, Jonas,
if they start Nick Foles, and let's say that they

(28:31):
beat the Falcons, do you do you start to say, well,
maybe maybe Nick Foles should just continue. I mean, I mean,
it sounds it sounds ridiculous, but maybe this is a
conversation that that could start up. But with this fan
base and with everything that's gone around the league, there's
just something off with this team in in this off season,
and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's

(28:51):
because the Vikings got better with Kirk Cousins. Maybe it's
because Green Bay is gonna have Aaron Rodgers. Maybe because
the Cowboys will have Ezekiel Elliott for six more games
this season. There's something going on where I just don't
think that the Eagles are going to have it this season. Yeah,
And it's it's weird to have this conversation because if
you were to if somebody were saying, well, where's their hole,

(29:12):
you know, where's the hole on this team? There aren't
a lot I mean they are loaded there. Offensively, their
offensive line is loaded, the defensive line is a nightmare. Um,
they're they're good pretty much everywhere. But I also think
that there's something off with this team. And I think,
just to kind of follow up on what you're saying,
I think that there's in certain cities, there are certain

(29:36):
franchises where when you win, it just takes on a
different magnitude, like when you win and your yeah to
the Chicago Cubs, or when you win and you're the
Boston Red Sox, or when you win and especially when
you haven't done it in so long and it's been
forever or it's been forever since it's happened. I think

(29:57):
that's where the Philadelphia Eagles find themselves. And so there's
no real xs and ohs angle I can take here
and say, well, I don't like their scheme fit versus No,
it has nothing to do with that. I think there
are certain cities where when you win, and you're told
every single day when you walk around, what it meant
to that family and how you would they wish their
grandfather could have been here to see them win that

(30:19):
Super Bowl, because uh, they that's the reason they're a fan.
When you're told that over and over and over again,
that next year usually doesn't end well. Like there's just
there's a certain amount of pressure and you cannot help
but take your foot off of gas and feel feel
accomplished and feel appreciated every time you go out. And

(30:40):
I think there is an element of that. And that's
why I just don't buy them doing it again a
second year in a row. I don't think that's a
long shot. We know it's tough to repeat in the NFL.
It's tough to do it consistently over and over again.
That's why the Patriots are so rare that teams like
the Steelers are so rare. I just I'm with you,
there's something off, and I don't I can't put my
finger on it, but I think could say eight an

(31:00):
emotional letdown or a mental one as well. They they
may not have Elshon Jeffrey for the first six six
weeks of the season, while they may have the best
running they they they have the top one or two
offensive line in the NFL. I mean, really, there's there's
there's there's no there aren't two teams better than what
the Eagles have. And they're they're probably number one for
the best offensive line. But I mentioned the the Jeffrey injury.

(31:23):
There's some questions. You no longer have Legarrett Blunt, and
even though you had a bunch of running backs, he
did provide a skill set of being a bruising running
back that you don't necessarily have anymore. You you lost
some on the defensive line. Michael Kendricks is no longer
a part of that team, and Jonas. When you look
at the playoff run that they had with Nick Foles

(31:43):
at quarterback and everything being great, Doug has mentioned in
a bunch on this show. Remember New England never punted
in that Super Bowl. They never had to punt. When
you look at what Minnesota did and they're dominating, went
over the Vikings. I think you could say, all right
after what Minnesota did the week prior in there with
the Minneapolis miracle, that letdown was probably seen from miles

(32:04):
away that you would have something like that. But remember
a Falcons team came in and it was a fourth
down away from knocking them off. So for as great
as the run was, there's you look back and you
have you have hindsight, and you kind of step away
from what they did, and then you're saying, okay, well
if this, if Leo Jones is able to catch the
ball in the fourth down, they're out. Maybe if the
Vikings said, aren't off that emotional letdown, it's a little

(32:26):
bit more competitive the the Patriots, Yeah, they outscored them,
but the Eagles defense still wasn't able to stop in
New England. So there are there are warts there. And
even though you're getting your starting quarterback back, maybe not
in Week one and you're getting your left tackle back,
something is just wrong. And I think the rest of
the NFC is better. Had I got to even mention
the Rams and all of the additions that they had.

(32:47):
I just think it's gonna be a really, really tough
task for Philadelphia to remotely match what they did a year.
And also, every time you suit up, you're gonna get
everybody's best. Every single time. There is no letdown game him,
there is no it's that's marked on the calendar. That's
the defending champion. It's a big deal. And on the
Nick Foles front, Sat Nick Foles is look, the tone

(33:08):
of Carson Wentz appears to be a guy who knows
it's a long shot. He plays week one, But what
if it goes a couple of weeks in and they
just want to play it safe. We know in the
NFL the odd that the numbers are there if you
start off and I'm not saying they'll start off oh
and two, but if you start off with a poor record,
it's really tough to to to try and make the

(33:28):
playoffs after that. I think it's what a less than
eleven percent of teams to start out owen to go
on to make the playoffs when you start out oh
and three. I think five and hundred and seventy three
have done it over the past whatever number of years.
If you start off poor in the NFL, it's really
tough to make up that ground later. And you remember
card L Jones at Ohio State Man when he came

(33:50):
in and everybody thought Ohio State was screwed because they
were going to their backup quarterback or their third string
at that point. Then he ended up winning the three
biggest games of the season, and then when in a
national title guess what happened the next year, All of
a sudden, people had more tape on him and more
time to prepare, and he wasn't close to being the
player he was when he came in as a backup,
because teams could scheme for him if you need to

(34:12):
go to Nick Foles the first couple of weeks of
the season because you don't trust Carson Wentz and you
don't want to rush him back. Now all of a sudden,
everybody's got film on him. Everybody knows what you're trying
to do. I just think there's a there's a lot
going against them, and and it's a It's an odd
conversation to have because they are loaded almost everywhere, like
they really are loaded in in in it's hard to

(34:35):
find a bad spot on the roster. But I just
think I'm with you. I think there's something And if
you if you talk about this, Eagle fans will rip
you to pieces. But I mean, who cares to me?
They also eat a horse crap on the streets. So well,
we're usually talking about the Super Bowl loser having the hangover,
and now it's more of the conversation with the Super
Bowl winner having the hangover. We expect New England to

(34:57):
be a playoff team likely to win the a f
C East with Philadelphia. They're the best team in the
NFC East and it should play out that way, but
when you look at it as a whole at the NFC,
a lot of the other teams in the NFC got
better and it's a different animal when you look at
that run, maybe it wasn't as one one sided for

(35:18):
Philadelphia as you would have thought. Dan Buyer Jonas knocks
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(35:41):
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(36:04):
time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. David gascon join just now,
how much you get gas gone? How did that come from? John?
The tent tent with John Ramos? How much gosh con
you want? John was giving me update tips during the break.

(36:27):
So the tent tent with John Ramos interesting? Okay, al right,
guys trying to play a game. So we got real
news or fake news? This will be a favor for one.
Jonahs knocks the NBA gentleman is adding four new teams
this year. Real news are fake news? Uh, it's it's

(36:48):
He's gotta be a little. I think he's got to
be more specific. I think it's fake news. Yeah, I
would also say fake I think we would have heard
about that. Well, it's real news. And check this out
at the BA is adding four new franchises to its
two K Yeah, but I thought it was the NBA

(37:08):
two K League. I didn't think that. I didn't think
Adam Silver oversees that lead. How con you need? So, guys,
here we go Atlanta Hawks, Brooklyn Nets, l A, Lakers
in Minnesota, Timberwolves leading the way here and your number two,
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars they have to pay
for three years of participating in this league seven hundred

(37:31):
fifty thousand dollars and they have to operate and control
all their expenses for the three years. The league has
average over a hundred fifty thousand viewers in the first year,
but according to some recent reports on Twitch, it's only
ten thousand views, so a little bit of a different watch.
I watched the first week weekend of it, like the
Thursday and Friday games, and it was interesting. But after that,

(37:54):
I don't know how you can continue to follow it
and be a be a fan, even if you like
the Lakers, or you like the Bucks or the calves
of the Pistons and those that have teamed You. Got
to give the NBA a little bit of credit, though
they still trying to just squeeze out of some headlines
somewhere in August. Huh hey, you had your month, go away,
go away. Stop enough with the schedule releases, the video

(38:17):
game stuff, enough with the bogus trade rumors, the rankings.
Go away, It's football season. We'll see you in December, guys.
National Football League News here patrons. Tedant Rob Gronkowski has
told friends and even some colleagues that he's filing for
bankruptcy because he's dead broke. Real news are fake news.

(38:38):
That's fake news. That is that is the news I
always I'm gonna say fake two yeah, guys. Gronkowski actually
told Maverick Carter he's made about forty five million dollars
in his NFL career, spending eight years, and he hasn't
spent a single dime of it. He said, quote, if
you see my NFL money, how much I've made, I
got away with way more than that, haven't spent into it.

(39:00):
Cording to Rob Yeah, it's the same thing Marshawn Lynch
did he You just spend either your sponsor money or
your your bonuses or whatever. They never touch their salaries, thanks.
John never touches his salary because Susan, how much? By
the way, two minutes, how much cash you want, guys.

(39:26):
We'll finish this off with a bang. Here. A former
library director spent almost ninety thousand dollars on a video
game app. It's a multiplayer game on iTunes called Game
of War. Real news or fake news. I'm gonna wow,
what a well for what a loser. I'm gonna I'll
say real I'll go with you on that one. Check

(39:49):
this out. Former director of a Utah Library was sentenced
yesterday for stealing eighty nine thousand dollars worth of library
funds and spending out on a mobile game called Aime
of War. Investigators said that they had found out thirty
eight year old at A Winger had made hundreds of
purchases for using gift cards from the Logan City Library

(40:10):
and he used it on this video game. What a nerd.
He was ordered to pay restitution spent a whopping thirty
days in jail for this infraction. Last time you're in
a library, Dave, Uh during the summertime, I would say
June okay to June. John Ramos Jonas within six months, alright,

(40:34):
it's been a couple of years for me. I like libraries.
It's a different, different, different field nowadays. What a nerd
that guy is? Though, huh a egon putting the pocket
protector down, You're going to the clanking time on the lady.
They should book him. Buyer nothing to do with anything, man,

(41:00):
What a loser. This is the Dug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer. If
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(41:23):
And John Ramos is here as well. In ninety minutes
at John Ramos Show and New and Improved. I don't
know if it's gonna be a new format, Jonas, I
just know that it's going to be a new episode. Yeah.
I mean, you never can tell. Uh. Sometimes I can
just get the idea during the prep of the show.
And the reason I know about the prep of the

(41:44):
John Ramos Show is because it goes on while we
are doing the show. So I can sometimes see his
reactions and think, Okay, we got ourselves a winner, and
then other times I go, yeah, I don't think this
is gonna go real. Well, don't worry. It even happens
prior to the show. I noticed today that Robert Garrard,
secutive producer, was working on The John Ramo Show as
we were trying to work on this show. So it's

(42:05):
a NonStop production of The John Ramo Show. And while
most TV shows are on hiatus in the summer, not
the John Ramo Show new episodes whenever possible. Jalen Ramsey
could have his own TV show and it would be
pretty darn good. He's got an article in g Q
out and the Jaguars cornerback gave his analysis of I

(42:26):
don't want to say all of the quarterbacks in the
National Football League, but saying some would be an understatement
because there seems to be about I don't know twenty breakdowns.
Are so of different signal callers in the National Football League,
some good, some bad. But Jalen Ramsey just giving his
honest opinion of what he thinks of the current state
of quarterbacks in the National Football League, and it's a

(42:47):
mixed bag. Giving kudos to the likes of Aaron Rodgers,
Deshaun Watson, Tom Brady, and not giving kudos to such
quarterbacks as Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck and Matt Ryan if
he knew Matt Ryan's name. Those just some of the
quarterbacks that were brought up in this g Q article.
And how Joe Flacco, by the way, he is not

(43:08):
a fan of the Baltimore Ravens. Single call. Yeah, not
not a big fan at all. I think he would
speak for many and many fantasy football owners who have
had to sign Joe Flacco on a scramble, thinking all right,
this is the time, and then he gives you a
a twelve of nineteen buck twenties six, no touchdown, no
interception performance and you go, wow, there's a waste of money.
Here goes bye bye to my fantasy hopes and dreams. UM.

(43:32):
I am curious to think what Tom Coughlin thinks about
all this. I would love to ask Tom Coughlin, are
you okay with this? Because Tom Coughlin and we all
know that he's been essentially running the show in Jacksonville.
We know Doug Moron is the coach, but Doug Moron
is an extension of Tom Coughlin. They've already punished Jalen

(43:52):
Ramsey for issues he's had going on social media, um
criticizing local reporters there this, this would tell me that
they've had conversations with him before about hey, keep it cool,
we don't need all this. And then outcomes a g
key article where he just lays waste just se the
quarterbacks in the NFL. I can't imagine Tom Coflin's thrilled. No,

(44:14):
and Tom Coughlin likes to run a tight ship, and
that's why you get a one week suspension for him.
In the Dante follower as well, they want to keep
things in order in Jacksonville. In reading this piece, there
are some who are I I really don't know if
there are some. I gotta be honest with this. I
don't know if people are even offended at all by
these comments. Most of the things that I've heard are like, good,

(44:34):
he's speaking up. That was the message that Bucky Brooks
had from the NFL network as he joined us earlier,
but said if anybody does have a problem with this article,
well then they didn't get the big picture of it.
Here was Bucky Brooks earlier on the show, Well, I
think what you're on a lot of people have their
favorite quarterback. A lot of people who are emphasized about

(44:55):
all of their quarterbacks, their favorite quarterbacks being elite to well,
Bucky Brooks got an email, are playing with them or
against them? Are saying no, these guys are fine and
they're okay, but there's some flaws with them. And the
reason they talk about the elite because a lot of
times guys are flown into that elite quarterback circle easily.
But really the et least when you talk to players,

(45:18):
it's Tom Brady, it's Aaron Rodgers. They will throw Drew
Brees in there, and maybe Russell Wilson, but they're not
a lot of guys that they're seeing deserved to be
in the v I P Club. You've got mail? Can
we next? Thank Can we not have an email up
when we're playing audio from a computer? Just maybe just
log out for that? Oh my god, there's a mute

(45:40):
on It's a mute at the top on outlook. Jus
that was Bucky Brooks earlier. We have a fractured team
here at Fox Sports Radio, but another fallout of this
and and I think Bucky's right where you've got, you know,
a handful of elite quarterback. By the way, that before
he got out of the subject, that's the equivalent to

(46:03):
going to use the restroom like a T. G. I. Friday's,
and he peek into the kitchen and you see the
cook drop the burger on the floor. That's what just
happened here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh one unread message
in the inbox, Bucky Brooks laying out Essentially, there's there's
a handful of elite quarterbacks that no matter what everybody's

(46:25):
gonna say they're great under that Jonas even there maybe
be good. There may be good quarterbacks at something are
great and something that are okay. They're okay quarterbacks that's
something stink and that somethink are all right. So you
have various opinions on it, and I think that's one
of the things that Bucky is trying to say. But
what you have also got is you've got Jalen Ramsey
talking about his own quarterback. He was brought in or

(46:48):
Blake Bortle's name was brought into the conversation, and he
brought up that the team didn't trust that the organization
didn't trust Blake Bortles in that a f C Championship
game against New England and said that he and said
that he felt that they wished that they were a
little bit more aggressive. He also said that they don't
go up against the Jaguars offense during the season, and
he joked that it's going to hurt his confidence. But

(47:09):
if you want to dig a little deeper into that,
there could be some issues there. Yeah. Um, when you
start to say when we've seen this a couple of
times in the NFL, um and there could be more examples,
but just off the top of my head, the most recently,
the Seattle Seahawks, UM before that, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. UM.
Before that, say the Chicago Bears. The Bears to where

(47:30):
you saw a team whose defense was the star of
the team, regardless of when anybody says the eight five Bears,
it was about their defense. The Seahawks, it was about
that legion of boom defense, that mentality they carried. For
as good as Russell Wilson became, he wasn't He wasn't
as good of a quarterback at that time because I
think he was still developing. And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

(47:52):
it was all about the defense. You know, John Gruden
get all the credit he wants, but that defense was
world class and they were the best in the league.
But what ends up happening is they become the star
and there's almost a divide. Well, it's all about the
team and not really, because I can remember Warren SAPs saying, well,
if we had um you know, uh, if we had

(48:12):
even the fifteenth ranked offense, we'd be the best team
in the NFL. Nobody could stop us. All right, So
what you're saying is that the offense isn't good enough.
It's all about the defense. If the offense could get
good enough, you would win more Super Bowls. Same with
the eight five Bears who called out Jim mcmanhnon for
not staying healthy from time to time. Um the same
with the Seattle Seahawks to where they were critical of
Russell Wilson and once um Marshawn Lynch left. It just

(48:37):
so to me, he's kind of throwing shade at the
offense here. He's he's kind of calling out the coaching
staff for not letting Blake Boardles do this or not
letting him do that. And we know how that played
when Richard Sherman was trying to call out plays on
the sideline and telling the offense not to do this
during a regular season game last year. I just wonder

(48:59):
if it's point the defense becomes such a star that
they almost look down on the offense for not being
able to play at their level. And I wonder if
that does cost a divide and maybe that's a bigger
concern for you. You You know what I think is is
different in Jacksonville than the other situations that were brought up.
His humidity, and that Blake Bortles could lose his job,

(49:22):
that Jim McMahon was going to be the Bears quarterback.
There was no doubt about that. Russell Wilson was the
guy in Seattle. The Buccaneers, Brad Johnson was their veteran quarterback.
The Blake Bortles situation, and this is why it may
be tough on on him specifically, is because there was
such a question about his status and if this team
takes a step back this year offensively. I know that

(49:45):
they made the commitment to Blake Bortles in the off season,
but this we've seen the Seahawks window of a defense.
To use them as an example, it's maybe five years,
six years at at most, and so you've got to
maximize every single one of those years. Jacksonville is taking
a risk with having Blake Bortles, but this puts him
even more in the spotlight. The divides, you really couldn't

(50:07):
argue with the success of those divides Jodas because the
Bears want a super Bowl, the Buccaneers won the Super Bowl.
The Seahawks want a super Bowl around the verge of
of winning back to back ones. But in the end,
it ends up crumbling down. The Bears ended up crumbling.
The Buccaneers run didn't last as long as maybe some
would have hoped. So there's so there's that aftermath of it.

(50:28):
But yeah, I do think it's a legit problem just
because of the the status of Blake Bortles, of of
even just him keeping his job. And if now you
have defenders, it's not it's not like all of the
pressure is being put on the other eleven players on offense.
All of the pressure is being put on one Blake Bortles,
and that's different than the others. And we always hear
defense wins championships in sports, and it's true, defenses do

(50:50):
win championships. Um, you know what wins a lot of
championships Great offenses. And you can think, I know that
that's bs. Think about it. Think about all the dynasty's
we've seen just in the last twenty to thirty years
in the NFL, whether it was the fort of the eighties,
whether it was the Dallas Cowboys of the nineties, whether
it was the Patriots most recently, what do they all

(51:13):
have in common. They're all known for great quarterback play
and great offenses. Nobody talks about the defenses. And it's
true because that's sustainable. A great quarterback can carry you
to great places. Like Bill Walsh was an offensive minded
head coach. Jimmy Johnson, Yeah, defense was important in Dallas,

(51:34):
but it was all about that offensive line and Troy
Aikman and running the football. Like even at one point
during one of the Super Bowls, they went into halftime
trailing Buffalo, and they ran the same play to start
the second half because they knew they could wear out
that Buffalo defense. So you can you can talk all
you want about, well, you know, it's our defense is
going to carry this team, But if you want to

(51:55):
win a lot of Super Bowls and you want to
have sustained success, you need consider aston high, high caliber
play offensively or else it's not gonna happen. And that's
been proven in the NFL for the last thirty to
forty years. We've seen that. And and that's that's the
one thing I would say about Jacksonville if if anything
concerned me, not so much that he's honest, it's the

(52:16):
fact that he is sort of calling out his offense,
kind of implying that, yeah, they don't wanna he's they're
scared to put him up against us. Well, if I'm
if I'm Blake Bortles, I'm thinking, what the hell is that? Okay,
put me up against you guys? Like if if the
whole point is to get better, what are we trying
to do here? I think he was trying to make
the point of how strong their defense is. And it

(52:37):
can be taken a completely different way. And it's the
way that we're talking about right now is that it's
not about how great the Jacksonville defense is. It's about
how fragile that they have been handling Blake Bortles and
how concerned they are and how much pressure is on him.
By the way, I picked Jacksonville to win it all
this year even with all of this, I I've there's

(52:57):
I I think that the defense is great enough. This
fracture may not help, but I still think that they
are so elite on defense. No matter what Jalen Ramsey
says about any other quarterback in the NFL, I think
that they're going to win the Super Bowl. You know
what I do um most of the time, because like
Dan does a show here on Sunday's here on Fox
Sports Radio, Great Show with Mike Carmen I do weekend overnights.

(53:18):
Everybody that listens to my show is hammered. So what
I do is I usually pick make my Super Bowl
picks every February, not bad after the season, and because
they're so they have no idea what's happening, so I
get away with it. Every time. John Romos is off
his email now so he is. He is back joining us.
You've got a show to make marked marked Red. Alright,

(53:43):
grow up, you guys. Jonas Knocks Dan Buyer in for
Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. You can get
Dan on on on Twitter at Dan Byron Fox. You
can get me at d Jonas Knocks. You can get
John Ramos on Twitter at js Ramos Zero six Underscore.
You've got May where you can find John during the
show live coming up next year on fs are though

(54:04):
there is so we're getting to witness something in the
NFL that we haven't gotten to see very much before.
We're gonna go live there because there's some interesting takeaways
from one of the more discussed teams in the league
right now. That's coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Dot
Leap show week days at noon eastern three pm Pacific

(54:26):
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
I'm Dan Buyer. That's Jonas Knox. He is John Ramos.
We are in for Doug today. Glad to have you
with us. Getting set for week two of the NFL
preseason schedule. Games Tomorrow, games, Friday games Saturday, as we
get ever closer to the start of the regular season.

(54:47):
Of course, during the preseason, Jonas, there are days that
you can look forward to. You can look forward to
three days of football. You can look forward to five
days of football if you want. You can look forward
to football on Tuesday nights. Because Hard Knocks and hb
OH covering the Cleveland Bronze Training Camp is now an
annual tradition, this year stopping in Cleveland, joining us now
from Cleveland dot Com. The Bronze Beat writer and I

(55:09):
guess we could say somewhat a an extra role in
Hard Knocks. Mary Kay Cabot Norris, who was featured on
a couple of shots at last night's episode, Hello, Mary Kay,
I think you're selling it a little bit short on
I would say maybe best supporting actor. Yeah, there you go, perfect, perfect.
There were there were not only questions from Mary Kay

(55:30):
and exchanges, there was shots to the to the assembled
media where she was in as well. When when you
see an episode of Hard Knocks, are you surprised to
see the storylines develop or what storylines are played out?
Considering you've been with that team for those previous six
days or so, I know you knew that this was
going to be a compelling Hard Knocks and it really is.

(55:53):
All the storylines that we thought they would kind of
focus on and make a big deal out of there
all there for Ultra see, and there are some that
we didn't even think would happen. I mean, who knew
that Antonio Callaway just shortly after being promoted to the
first team offense would get stopped by police. I mean,
there's some ready made stuff going on for this show,
and I think fans are probably really enjoying it. How

(56:16):
real is what we're seeing on television because you've been
around this team when there's been no cameras, there are
no reality show being done. There Are we seeing a
normal Brown's training camp? Or is is a lot of
this sort of played up for the cameras that are there.
I think a little bit, a tiny bit of it
is played up now this you have a building full
of people here that are very television savvy. I mean,

(56:38):
d has One, the co owner of the Cleveland Browns,
has been in television her entire life. Their son in law, J. W. Johnson,
He's been in television his entire life. So when they
bring up a Brad, I'm out at practice right now
for her practice sounds um. You know, when you're bringing
a Brad Paisley yesterday to practice, you know some of
that is by design to add a little some things.

(57:00):
They've got Dez Bryant coming in tomorrow for a workout,
so I think there are a few things that are
you know that they're playing to the cameras just a
little bit. Mary kay Cabin of Cleveland dot Com covering
the Cleveland Browns joining us here on Fox Sports Radio
on the Doug Gottlip Show. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan
Buyer as we are in for Doug. Were you surprised
at how the Antonio callaway thing played out, at least

(57:23):
on TV? I mean, I thought John Dorsey would be
a little bit more mad than he was. Same thing
with Hugh Jackson and in their dealings with it were
you surprised at all of how Cleveland has dealt with this. Well,
you know, I think when they directed Antonio Callaway, they
knew he was going to be a work in progress.
They knew they were taking a risk in the mid round,
and they knew that he was going to need guidance

(57:43):
and a firm hand, and they've tried to provide that.
They feel that he's worth saving. They feel that he's
a player that has not only talent, but the right
kind of personality to succeed in the NFL, and so
I think they kind of expected there might be some
hiccups along the way, and I think they're just trying
to give him a little bit of the benefit of
the doubt. Here. Mary Kay Cabott with this series covers

(58:05):
the Cleveland Browns for Cleveland dot Com. Here on the
Doug gottleip Show, Dan Buyer Jonas knocks in for Doug.
When players see and and and they're watching these episodes
of Hard Knocks, and they see maybe Tyrod Taylor tell
Hugh Jackson, like he did on last night's episode, put
a camera up there to catch anybody that's running slow.
Could that be taken the wrong way? By teammates there

(58:27):
who made me feel like he is sort of, you know,
throwing them under the bus, so to speak, and kind
of siding with coaching over them. Yeah. I don't think so,
because I think everyone that's around here right now they've
recognize that they're taking hours and hours and hours of
film for these episodes and that just tiny snippets are
actually showing up on the show. So I don't think

(58:49):
anyone is taking anything too seriously, even the even the
coaches exchange that we saw between Preddie Kitchens and Todd
Haley and Hugh Jackson. You know, when we talked to
pretty Kitchens about that, he was like, you know this,
there's nothing if you really knew what goes on in
some of these meetings. So I don't think anybody's taking
you know, just little small things that seriously. We had

(59:09):
Bucky Brooks on earlier and I asked him who he
thinks starts for Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield, and he
immediately said Donald, And he says that he thinks that
Donald could start week one. But with saying that, he
mentioned that how well Tyrod Taylor played in the preseason
opener and what he's meant for the Browns. Does Hugh
Jackson's job security play into maybe him sticking with Tyrod

(59:30):
Taylor a bit longer just because of of of what
he may need to do to keep his job. Well,
there's some barking going on behind me. Happens to the
dog pounds. So I don't think that he's going to UM.
I don't think he's going to operate in any way,
shape or form based on trying to save his job.

(59:52):
They just want to go out and win football games.
That's what he's all about. One in thirty one doesn't
sit well with Hugh Jackson, and uh, he's going to
start the quarterback that gives him the best chance to win.
And right now that Tyrod Taylor UM. Mary Kay Cabot,
with this year from Cleveland dot Com covers the Cleveland

(01:00:12):
Browns has for many years. You saw her. She'll be
getting invited to the Emmys are probably the Oscars after
her appearance on the episode last night. Don't forget us
a little people when you when you actually make it
to the Emmy's Mary Kay, if you could, like, don't
forget about us and blow us off, please, you know
I I will remember you. Guys. You got the show
has always been great to me. I will make it
a point to continue to come on. Okay, well will

(01:00:33):
be in your your speech that you get for winning
the Emmy. UM let me ask you this though, because
if say Hugh Jackson goes six, just he goes sixteen,
to know this year he wins every single game, that
still puts him at fourteen games below five hundred his
time in Cleveland. What's a realistic expectation this year for
Hugh Jackson to keep his job beyond this year? How

(01:00:55):
many wins? What's the mark that you see him needing
to do in order to remain the coach for year four? Well,
you know, I think everyone expects as this team sure
to later around six or seven games this year. I
think everyone is looking at this is sort of a
reset in some ways. It's not really even being viewed
as Hugh Jackson's first year as a head coach because

(01:01:16):
he was kind of uh hamstrung the first couple of
years he had. He had a hand tied behind his back,
without the talent that he really needed, without a quarterback.
I mean last year, look, they went into the season
without a quarterback on the russ or who would ever
won a football game in the NFL and to that
had never started one, So uh, you know, I think
they're really just willing to give him a chance to

(01:01:37):
see what he can do with a good GM that
he gets along with and some talents. I'm gonna wrap
up my last question for you, Mary Kay Cabot joining
us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. What is the
chance of his team signs Des Bryant. Uh, you know,
I don't know if I could put a percentage on
it right now, but as well, if he comes in
here tomorrow and he feels like it's a fit for

(01:01:59):
him in the Browns, like what they're hearing out of
him and how he wants and how he's willing to,
you know, just not maybe necessarily be the number one
receiver or whatever the case may be. I think there's
a decent chance I would I would go, like, right now,
who's looked the best between Baker Mayfield and Tyrod Taylor
and camp? You know, they both look good. You can't

(01:02:19):
compare apples to apples because Tyrod's first team, Baker second,
so it's really difficult to compare them that way. They're
both doing really well in camp, making both making a
lot of progress, and um, you know, I was just
very impressed with Baker's debut, really was. I mean, I've
been saying I've never seen somebody locate the ball the
way that he does, and actually know a lot of

(01:02:40):
quarterbacks come through these parts. Mary Kay Cabot, Brown's beat
writer for Cleveland dot Com. Find her on Twitter and
mary Kay Cabot and see her probably on the next
episode star of Hard Knocks. Yes, Mary Kay, thanks so
much of the time. I know it's busy and we'll
do it again soon. Thanks for having me. Guys. The
Browns and Bills play in Week two of the NFL

(01:03:00):
preseason coming up on Friday. Yeah, I saw her featured
last night. I thought, all right, she's gonna be all
with us tomorrow. That's fantastic. I wondered if these this
is what I because we know some of the storylines.
We knew about Antonio Callaway, we knew about this and that.
But if you're around the team day in and day
out and you're trying to cover stories, does anything pop
up that maybe because you're not on that field, end

(01:03:21):
up all all of a sudden appearing and it doesn't
seem like that's much of it. But maybe because Jonas,
the stories around the Browns have been so darn big,
with Antonio Callaway, with the Corey Coleman trade, with just
all of us watching Baker Mayfield and Tyrod Taylor at quarterback,
maybe there isn't anything to surprise because of how much
action has been going on. Well, and I've all I wonder.

(01:03:43):
That's why I asked her about how realistic is? Like
how real is what we're watching? Because I remember seeing
an interview with with a reality show one time and
they asked the whole crew or cast that was on
the show, and they said, is it real? Is what
we watched real? And I think one of them responded
with how could it be? And if you think about it,
there was a camera in here every day following our lives.

(01:04:03):
I mean, would would you uh, you know, pick your
nose like you normally would, or would you uh go
use the restroom or say some of the things you
normally would out loud or in private yourself like you
could never be a hundred percent natural. It could never
just be that organic. And so I wonder just being
around the team every day, being around them for the
past several years, like she has covering the team. She

(01:04:25):
even alluded to the fact that, you know, Brad Paisley
showing up, which I'm sure we'll be featured on next
week's Hard Knocks. Why the hell is he there? What? Like? What?
It just you know, it's got to be to to
sort of play up for the cameras and show this
is how exciting it is, um, And if I'm a coach,
I don't think it's It's a reason why coaches aren't
that ecstatic about having to and you have to basically

(01:04:47):
force teams to be a part of this. Why aren't
bone Thugs and Harmony no mean or Camara, Yes, you're
a big Camara. Absolutely. I think he's gonna have a
great year with the same mushroom Head's another band from Yeah, sure,
it's all. I got the Ramos twins from John Ramos

(01:05:11):
in the Heartbreakers, John Robison the Black Hearts, all right,
Dan Buyer Jonas knocks him for Doug Gottlieb here on
Fox Sports Radio. I'll get Dan on Twitter at Dan
Byron Fox coming up next year on FSR, UM, you
saw something in the world of sports last night that
was absolutely embarrassing. Okay, but is it the most embarrassing

(01:05:35):
thing of all time. We will tell you coming up
next year on fs ARE. But for all the latest
from around the world of sports, sit back and just
listen to the gas mask David gascon Jack. We get
a new stinger. Please, how much do you want? Like
like Tom Broke a little bit better? Guys in Major

(01:05:55):
League Baseball, Kyle Hendricks has done for the day six
innings plus, has got a couple runners on right now
at first and second base that are his responsibility, but
he is in position to win right now. Covey is
on top of the Brewers seven to two, top of
the seventh from Wrigley. Anthony Rizzo a two run shot
in this one, who's got three runs driven in Hendrix
eight strikeouts in six plus the names give seven hits

(01:06:16):
and two earn runs against. Meanwhile, other games around the Diamond,
White Sox leading Detroit six to five twin six four
advantage over the Pirates. Game right now is in the
bottom of the give me the top of the ninth inning,
Mariners and A's underway and there's no score. Top of
the fifth. And speaking of Seattle today, they have placed
pitcher James Paxton, one of their aces on the ten
day DL with a left form contusion. So far this year,

(01:06:38):
Paxson's ten and five with an e R a just
under four three eight. Meanwhile, in the National Football leag
a couple of notes here. Seattle Seahawks running back the
Shot Penny, of first round pick from this year, will
undergo surgery for a broken bone in his hand. Will
have a screw put into it. We'll miss about three
to four weeks worth of action. Cordon Adam Schefter. Seattle
has also reached an agreement former Colts linebacker Eric Olden

(01:07:00):
and Denver Broncos wide receiver Carlos Henderson has been suspended
without pay for the first game of this upcoming year
after filing the NFL Policy and Program First substance of abuse. Gentlemen, Dave,
I know you played uh sports throughout your life. You're
ever get in a fight with anybody during any sporting
events football game, uh, during hockey, Yes, hockey, during during football.

(01:07:22):
I did one time and it was during practice, and
I will never do it again. It's just in it's
not smart to punch a guy with a face mask on. Yeah,
that's the kind of like hockey. That is the only
place where you get real fights really, because that's that's
the place where where you can actually say, okay, that
was a good fight. When players are known as good fighters,

(01:07:45):
it's the hockey is the only place that you can
do something like that well. And you also they still
you know, bang up their hands. There's a h it
is called Ice Gladiators. It's a Netflix documentary on fighters
in hockey and just sort of their lifestyle. And you
see the scars on their hands because even though you're
fighting a guy, maybe he still got his helmet on
and you're clipping your knuckles on the guy's helmet. So

(01:08:06):
it's still dangerous, but a lot a lot more cleaner
shots to the face. Dan, thank you, Thank you very much,
David Gascons. John Ramos has just locked a gascon as
he is he has done, but we bring up fights.
By the way. This is the Doug gott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. John Ramos, Jonas knocks, I'm Dan Buyer.
We are in for Duc today. What was that, John?
What was that? How much sound drop you need? Last

(01:08:32):
night at Dodger Stadium there was a bit of a
brew haha. Yeah. Gleig and Huntling are calling at it
and the pinch is clear Quig and Huntley. I'm not
sure what caused it. And now Hundley has been tackled.
Pence is in the middle of it now getting Huntley

(01:08:53):
out of the way. The benches have cleared, the bullpens
have cleared. I not sure what was said, but we
could tell you what was done. Wi is really hot,
Bob Darren trying to keep him away from the scrum.
They started churching, and then all of a sudden, pushing

(01:09:14):
and shoving and benches clearing. That was last night on
a M five seventy l A Sports in Los Angeles.
As the Yes, benches cleared between the Dodgers and Giants.
And when you see one of these fights, Jonas, they
never ever live up to any of their expectations or
what could happen. One of my favorites in baseball is
the guy twenty yards away trying to be held back

(01:09:38):
to get into the freakas because no one's near him,
no one is challenging him, yet he wants to be
the one that seems to be like, no, I gotta
get my piece. A lot of fake tough guys in
baseball fights. Yeah, it's uh that that seems to be
the norm. Aquig trying to do a superman punch. The
older m may move to where you, uh, you pretend
like you're throwing a knee, but INSTEADY throw a punch.

(01:09:58):
Except most guys in m they don't slap like y'all.
See how pwe did. Uh. And they were trying to
figure out, like why Puig was so upset, and I think, um, uh,
Puig was overheard telling somebody, have you seen our effing bullpen? Uh?
So I had believe that's that was a sort of
the commentary from Puig. Yeah, it's it's dumb. I mean,
you've had some Hunter Strickland, Bryce Harper was a good time,

(01:10:20):
but nobody really threw an actual punch. It was like
a slap punch sort of that that connected a couple
of times. Um. Yeah, it's very rare to find a quality,
quality fight. Dave said it, you know, like when you're
when you're in a football fight. And we saw one
today at Texans camp when they were having a joint
practice with the Fortins. DeAndre Hopkins gets in it with

(01:10:41):
Jimmy Ward. Hopkins helmet comes off, but Ward stays on
why in the world you would fight with a player
with a helmet on just makes no sense. And it's
nothing new. I mean, we've we've seen this from from
days and days. But if you're trying to find out
what sport has the worst fights, NFL training camps are
pretty awful. Um, Major League Baseball is ridiculous, and then

(01:11:04):
you get to the NBA, where it doesn't seem anybody
ever fights. All it is is maybe than Maker running
up and trying to kill someone, and yeah that overseas tournaments.
I got a Thon Maker, your guy, Thon Maker. I
got a whole new level of respect for him. I've
never seen an NBA player use moy tie in a fight,
straight moy tie, and you know what, he's got every

(01:11:24):
advantage in the world. He's long. I was a little disappointed.
M Tai. You gotta point the toes down so you
exposed the kneebone more if you really want to make contact.
But I thought he was agile. I thought he used,
he would probably have decent power, good leverage on his shots.
I was impressed with though Maker and the the NBA
may have the best. Remember Dr J and Larry Birds
ripping each other's throats out. I think it was. It

(01:11:47):
was rapid play, like I would rather see like an
old NBA fight then to see the junk that we
saw in l A last night, or to see the
crap that we're seeing on NFL training camps. Those are
the fights, even even the the Alonzo morning Larry Johnson
when they didn't connect. But if just one of those
from one of those guys would have connected to the other,

(01:12:10):
it would have been carnage. John Ramos. I did not
get to see the dodging last night because I live
in l A. But no free tickets either. Uh. But
I watched the highlights and they showed that fighting slow motion,
and I saw where Plague was going to punch and

(01:12:30):
I went, Okay, he's gonna punch the guy and then
his hand opened up and slapped it like a w W. Yeah,
that's the move man move baseball is? Is baseball the worst?
I mean of them all? At least, I mean, baseball
has got to be the yeah, it's it's really well,
it's also hard and then like the guys running in
from the bullpen. Okay, why hasn't baseball figured out what

(01:12:55):
the NBA figured out a long time ago? Hey, if
a bunch of guys running off the sideline. We could
have a prop him here, because that's when this stuff escalates,
and it just looks dumb, like why wouldn't you penalize
guys for running from the bullpen and the dugout? Yeah,
I have no idea. It's it's I mean to make
that much of an effort now that I think about it,
because there's one player at the plate going against nine guys.
But there's enough but one on nine, let's see it.

(01:13:18):
But but the point is, at least the other team
has the dugout full of players that they can run
out and try to protect. This is the other thing
about baseball. This is what you get with Don zimmer
And and Pedro Martinez he's back. You get sixty seventy
eight year old coaches that are in uniform all of
a sudden, trying to stop a fight. One of the
Dodger coaches ended up being in that situation last night,

(01:13:40):
so that's a complete mess. You guys who have no
business being there or trying to break up a fight
between these athletes getting in the mix of it. Yeah,
it's it's I just always watched the guy who is
when the fight Jonas let's say the fight is at
first Base. There's the guy at the pictures bomb that's
trying to be held back because he's not near the action,

(01:14:00):
but he wants to be known as the guy of
well let me, let me get at him, and somebody's
holding him back and he's purposely like not making the
effort where he could totally push off the other guy.
You saw that last night. There's not too many Kyle
Farnsworth's anymore. Who will just charge a guy and tackle
him to the ground. What was that guy's named Wilson?
I forget his name, Tom Wilson or something like that.

(01:14:21):
Kevin who knows some guy named Wilson and he just
tackled him for the reds and started pounding on him. Yeah,
it is very rare. It was disappointing. I was expecting
a lot more. We didn't get it. Get it was.
It was Wilson, the neighbor from home amproof okay, good.
We finally saw his face. It was blunty. He came
up from the outfield fence and oh, that's who he is.

(01:14:41):
You know, if it was Tim Allen, you know what
what Pedro Martinez would say? Would he say? How much
cooke you want? Come on, wasn't he a snowblower? Wa
wa way back in the day, maybe early eighties. I
think there was a mud shot How much sugar you need?

(01:15:02):
I thought he's got popped or something like that a
long time ago. It's in the past. That's all right,
all right, Dan Buyer, Jonas rom Uh and for Doug
gott leave here on Fox Sports Radio. If you would
like to get me on Twitter for my reckless comments
about a guy who may or may not have done coke,

(01:15:24):
you can find me at J. S. Ramo zero six.
That's where you can find me on that Uh. Coming
up next though, Uh, we have some interesting commentary, some
interesting commentary in regards to one player that most of
you can't stand. All right, there's a player out there
most of you cannot stand. Wait till you hear what
a couple of guys had to say about this individual.

(01:15:46):
That's next year on FSR. Be sure to catch live
editions of the Doug dot Leap Show weekdays at noon
eastern three pm Pacific. I'm Dan Buyer, that's Jonas KNOXI
is John Robos and Noon John Ramos Show coming up
in about forty minutes or so here on Fox Sports Radio.
Doug Duck's been busy all week. He's been in for

(01:16:07):
Culin Cowhard on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio.
But just because Doug isn't here doesn't mean we won't
take something interesting from a show from Fox Sports Radio
or Fox Sports One and play it back to you
as it's time now. For now, we starts from Fox
Sports One. Shannon Sharp earlier today, in the topic that

(01:16:29):
we discussed Jonas on Carson Wentz his situation with the
Philadelphia Eagles is the quarterback, said that there may be
some question whether he can be ready for Week one
of the regular season. Here was Shannon Sharp earlier today.
If I'm the Eagles, I'm going to air on the
side of caution. If Carson wins is not healthy, he's
not starting. He's the future, but it could be a problem.

(01:16:49):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Carson, this
is the first month skip that four and though and
folds hands eight touchdowns one of those sessions, how do
you take him out of the lineup. There's a reason
why Tom Brady did not will Jimmy Garoppo to get
any snap. There's a reason why for like seventeen years,
Baton Manning took every single snap. There's a reason why
Joe Montana didn't Steve Young to get any bump up

(01:17:11):
duties killed Bays. Tom Brady understood how he got the job.
Carson Wins is looking like, hold on, I don't really
want this guy in there. Could have got this. He
did the last game he played, he won the Super Bowl.
He's the Super Bowl m v P. He went to
Disney shedding sharp and undisputed earlier today. Um, I would
I would think that there's cause for concern. I don't.

(01:17:32):
I wouldn't say that it's because they feel like Nick
Foles could replace him. There's a reason why Nick Foles
has been a backup quarterback majority of his career. UM.
I don't know if anybody happened to see Nick Foles
when he was a member of the St. Louis Rams.
He was atrocious, absolutely atrocious. So it's not that all
of a sudden he's found something new in Philadelphia. It's that, yeah,

(01:17:54):
he's he's a capable quarterback in spot duty, and he
performed really really well against in the playoffs and and
performed at the highest level. But I would I would
say that if you were to just look at Nick
foles career, do you buy that he is more like
the guy in the playoffs last year or the guy
that he was majority of his career before that. If

(01:18:16):
I had to pick one or the other, I would
say a majority of his career before that. So if
that's the case, I don't know that I would worry
about him taking Carson Wentz his job. I just worry
if he does have to play for a month. You've
got the Falcons opening night. You know they're gonna be
out for revenge. Uh, that's a high pressure environment. It's

(01:18:37):
in Philadelphia. You're raising the Super Bowl banner. They've never
done it before. We see how that plays out for
a lot of teams. Um, remember the New England Patriots
against the Kansas City Chiefs. That didn't go too well. Um,
you've seen it in the NBA. Before you do get
a break, you get Ryan Fitzpatrick, which is basically a
bye week against Tampa Bay. But then you get Andrew
Luck and you get Marcus Mariotta in weeks three and four.

(01:19:00):
So if he does miss the first month of the season,
it was aren't exactly Showan's I mean you're not looking
at four. Oh, if you're two and two, you now
need to rely on a guy coming off an a
c L injury to carry you the rest of the way.
And I just I think there's a lot going against him.
I don't think that to Shannon's point of if Nick
Foles ends up doing well and playing Week one, that

(01:19:21):
Carson Wentz doesn't want any of that. I still think
that Carson wentz Is draft position plays value second overall
a couple of years ago, so that plays into the investment.
But also, Jonas what plays into the investment is that
Carson Wentz was an m VP candidate going up to
last season. So so when you take what you said
about Nick Foles and how we both feel about him,

(01:19:43):
I don't think that there is there's any rush for
the Philadelphia Eagles too to or for Carson Wentz to
come back for the Philadelphia Eagles, because it's Carson Wentz's job.
Even the the worst case scenario happened for Carson Wentz
and that's Nick Foles runs the table and win the
super Bowl, and he's still thought to be the starting
quarterback for a Week one, that doesn't change. It's just

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as if this stuff creeps in, if Nick Foles ends
up having to start a few games, and Shannon Sharp said,
if they do win, then all of a sudden you're like, okay, well, really,
how important is the quarterback position? Maybe that creeps into it.
Maybe to your point, if all of a sudden, Carson
Wentz isn't fully healthy, which we don't think he's gonna
be ready week one, you get off to a bad start,
maybe your two and two or one and three, and

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then you have a really tough schedule with Jacksonville on it,
and you've got more division games. Those could all all
pose problems for the Eagles. Also, just look at the division,
because the Patriots figure this out a long time ago.
Let's if we can dominate our division, that's gonna give
us a great head start. So if you're the Patriots
and you know you've got the Dolphins twice, the Bills twice,
and the and the Jets twice, generally, you're probably gonna

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go five and one. That's that's basically a five game
advantage you've got over somebody else because they may play
in a tougher division. So if you were to look
at the NFC East, I think Dallas is probably gonna
be better. Um, I think the Giants, well, you to
be better, you can't be worse. And maybe Alex Smith
provides a little bit of stability that they haven't had

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there because there's been the ongoing question of what do
we do with Kirk Cousins. So if everybody in your
division got better, that kind of makes the road a
little bit more difficult. And plus you brought this up earlier.
The NFC is a wood chipper all the way that
there are so many good teams in the NFC that
I just don't think it's a shoe in for Philly.

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Minnesota got better, The Packers got better just for having
Aaron Rodgers for a full season. The Rams have added
a lot of pieces. We think they're going to get
better better. So when you try to you're not gonna
face all those teams in the NFL playoffs unless something
wacky happens, but you're gonna have to try to navigate it.
I agree. Jalen Ramsey has been navigating quarterbacks throughout his
early NFL career. What does you have to say about him?

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that is that's that's not what the Jaguars corner said. However,
he did call Josh Allen trash in an interview with
g Q. We are talking about what the Jaguars star
cornerback had to say about the state of quarterbacking in
the National Football League. Jonas as I look at this
and I see the the rundown of what Jalen Ramsey

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thinks of each and every quarterback in the NFL. I
want to make this clear in case he's just joining us.
We're on the same page right where. I know we're
on the same page, and I think we're on the
same page as many We are more than happy to
see Jalen Ramsey give an honest assessment of who he
thinks is good and bad in the National Football League.
That's all that we want from a player's perspective. Heck,

(01:22:56):
that's all that we want from players. That's all that
we want from analysts who are covering the football games
on broadcast. We want their honest opinion. We don't want
any sugarcoating. And that's what Jalen Ramsey gave us in
this g Q article. Fair enough, Yes, And it's a
lot more fun to talk about this than it is
to talk about what the true meaning behind the graffiti
on the lebron James mural really meant? What did it

(01:23:19):
really mean? And then somebody took spray paint to another
wall here in l a big deal. Drive around some time,
open your eyes. It's everywhere. The No, that's all right,
that's all right. The graffiti that he would write on
a wall about Joe Flacco would be he sucks. That
was that's what Jalen Ramsey thinks of the Baltimore Ravens quarterback.

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But it was in a conversation of a much bigger picture.
In fact, Jalen Ramsey did say I've played I've played
him twice. He wasn't any good. He was talking about
the emergence of Lamar Jackson. But we've talked about Jalen
Ramsey's comments today and if you're just joining us, I
encourage you to check out the podcast at Fox Sports
Radio dot Com. We talked about maybe what some of
the implications couldn't mean with Jalen mcs saying this, I

(01:24:00):
don't think that there are many, but I do feel
that Jalen Ramsey is is talking every single week about
some topic and making comments like this. It lessens the
value and the weight of the comments that he has
made previously, almost like a Tarall Owens and a Chad
Johnson situation where they were talking so much you kind
of stopped listening. We're listening to Jalen Ramsey because of

(01:24:21):
how good he is and because of how honest he
is in this assessment. But now what we can do
is we can actually look at what his comments were
in last hour, we talked about his comments specifically about
Blake Bortles and how this could be a negative because
it could fracture the team and making it an offense
and defense sort of thing. But there are other ramifications
as well throughout the league that you pointed out that

(01:24:44):
you think that Jalen Ramsey could face against these quarterbacks
because his schedule features thirteen of the quarterbacks that he
mentioned in this article. Our games that the Jaguars will
play in the regular season. So in thirteen games he
has mentioned those quarterbacks in those core rebacks may want
to prove a point. Yeah, and you've heard other top

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cornerbacks talk about this um where they say occasionally they'll
get bored because if you're that dominant, teams aren't going
to throw your way. They're not going to make that mistake.
And so if that's the case, maybe Jalen Ramsey wants
to butter up or entice some of these quarterbacks or
even criticize them to the point to where they think, oh,

(01:25:24):
you think I'm scared of you watch this and sort
of bait them into want to engage uh In in
some action his way so that he can try and
up his I n T stats or his past deflections
or whatnot. I have wondered that if Matt Most maybe
an idea he's trying to bait some of these quarterbacks
into proving him wrong. Come throw my way and prove
me wrong. So I've wondered that I will say this

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the quarterbacks that he gave praise to, like a Marcus
Mariota and Deshaun Watson, maybe they wouldn't. I don't know
if they're gonna say we're not gonna go at him
because he said good things about me, or they're just
gonna say we don't want to go at him because
we don't want to go at him. And granted, you
got a j Bouye on the other side, i'd so
somebody's going to see some action. But when you're looking
at his at his analysis, let's say, was there any

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that stood out to you that you said, you know
what he's wrong about that that one is? That one
is way off base from what I've seen. I got
the sense of, well, I think we all put Rogers
in Tom Brady in that elite category along with Drew Brees.
The elite category is a small, small group of quarterbacks

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in the National Football League, and maybe smaller than some
may think. The guys that he was talking about Jonas
there was nothing on me. I may be a little
off on some of those, but they were. I did
think that the Josh Allen one was unfair for the
fact that we have no idea how Josh Allen is
going to fair in the National Football League. But if
you're criticizing Joe Flacco because he sucks, or if you're

(01:26:52):
criticizing Ben Roethlisberger because he thinks he just throws it
to all of his great weapons. At least there's some
validity there with this criticism. I don't want to say
that he was off, but there was none that I
thought really that stood out and said, wow, he's way
off on that one. No, Um, maybe Roethlisberger. UM. I
think Roethlisberger has done enough in this league with enough

(01:27:14):
revolving pieces um around him at at wide receiver, and
he's put up enough numbers to where I think he
deserves something better than you know, decent at best. Um.
We've heard people talk about Eli Manning and the you know,
without Odell Beckham, what are they? And so I do
understand that he said Matt Stafford was straight whatever that means. Uh,

(01:27:37):
we'll go ahead. I think else if that would have
been some breaking news. Um, and then we've got like
Matt Ryan. Look, some people, listen, Matt Ryan has been
gifted more talent since he's been to the NFL than
a lot of quarterbacks had their entire careers. Like if
you were to think about all all the pieces around

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Matt Ryan throughout the course of his career since he's
been there, Roddy White, Julio Jones, Tony Gonzalez, Michael Turner,
like he's always had pieces around him. The offensive line
continues to get better. So it's not like and the
fact that he actually put some reasoning behind some of
his comments. He talked about Kirk Cousins. He talked about

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Kirk Cousins play action game is the best in the NFL. Like,
that's not just a guy saying, well, you know he's
got that. He's pointing out a strength that Kirk Cousins had,
And if you watch Kirk Cousins in play action, he
is really really good at it. So it's it's not
that he just gave a one word response to a
bunch of different players to play the one word game.

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Josh Allen, who do you go up against in college?
I don't. I don't mind it because it seemed like
it came from an educated place and a guy who
actually put thought and actually stands behind what it is
that he that he was saying. Is Josh allen criticism
about not only his college has really stem from I
think his support of Lamar Jackson as well, because that
was his whole point, is that he was talked about

(01:29:00):
the skill set that Baker Mayfield possessed that made him
number one. A skill set that Josh that Jalen Ramsey liked,
and he felt that Lamar Jackson had a similar skill
set and didn't understand why he went thirty one picks
later to the Baltimore Ravens at the end of the
first round. The Roethlisberger one is interesting. We had a
guy tweet an Steelers fans saying, yeah, how did Big
Ben do in that game? When we had Bucky Brooks
on Guess what Bucky Brooks said. Well, remember the first

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time they played in the regular season when Ben Roethlisberger
through five interceptions. During the time that Ben Roethlisberger has
played against Jalen Ramsey is passed. Her rating was fifty six,
zero touchdowns and three interceptions. That was done by NFL research,
by the way, as they did a stat breakdown of
all of the quarterbacks that he talked well about in
the ones that he talked not so well about. And
Ben Roethlisberger hasn't played well against Jalen Ramsey. So even

(01:29:46):
if we're watching the fifteen other games and the other
seasons that Ben Roethlisberger played for the time that Jalen
Ramsey at least has been on the field and had
to defend Ben Roethlisberger. There is validity there because he's
picked him off three times. So that's so with everything
that's being said. You may be surprised at how he
thinks about some of these quarterbacks, but he may not

(01:30:06):
be that far off on all of them, considering I
mean Rogers, yeah, does not suck neither. Just Tom Brady
and amusing amusing the the phrase here. They're they're arguably
some of the greatest quarterbacks and Brady, if not the
best of all time. But the other guys, when you're
kind of saying he's okay, decent at best, O'Dell makes

(01:30:26):
Eli Manning the quarterback that he is there. There's there's
threads of truth, Yes there is there is, But unfortunately
it's like the Kelvin Benjamin stuff about Cam Newton. Unfortunately
people got bothered by Kelvin Benjamin saying those things about
Cam Newton because the comments came from Kelvin Benjamin. When

(01:30:47):
you actually look at those comments and you were to
stack up Cam Newton against other quarterbacks in the NFL,
I don't think what he said was wrong. We just
got we got the message lost because of the messenger,
and I think that's what maybe some people are are
thinking here. And also, look, because he had so much
success against Pittsburgh. It's like the old adage styles make fights.

(01:31:09):
Somebody you may match up against really well and somebody
else like you've got a favorite. Remember the Seattle Seahawks.
Didn't they get swept by the Rams when they were
bad a couple of years ago, or they lost consistently
all the DRAMs there were an awful matchup just for
whatever reason, you just it's a bad matchup. Just like
for whatever reason, Jacksonville when they were really really hot
last year got smoked by the forty Niners. Garoppolo went

(01:31:32):
up and down the field on them. So from his perspective,
he was being honest. I got no issue with that,
you know what. I the the Jalen Ramsey thing and
he says in this g Q article that he thinks
that Carson Wentz into Shaun Watson are going to go
back and forth for m v P s over the
next ten years, that those guys are going to be
m VP candidates. One of the things that I like

(01:31:54):
about those guys, and I'm not sure how much Carson
Wentz is going to be do it would be able
to do it anymore. Jonases, at at least you have
a thread of running that that if they can get
out into the open, they can bring another dimension. And
when I'm looking at quarterbacks and you bring up the
Calvin Benjamin aspect of he wanted to go to a
pure passer quarterback at shore, seemed like he was Eli

(01:32:15):
Manning in that conversation, which wasn't the the best the
best example considering Eli of the NFL and interceptions three times,
but it seems like the the running ability of these
quarterbacks is never taken into account of quarterback play. We're
only talking about passing at least with this with what
Jalen Ramsey is saying, and I may be trying to

(01:32:36):
pull things out, but he mentions how Lamar Jackson could
be used in Baltimore, how Baker Mayfield is going to
be used, the mobile quarterbacks of Marcus Mariota and others,
and they used the Wentzon and Watson description as well.
I like how that's taken into account because I think
it has to be taken into account when you're talking
about quarterback play, an overall quarterback play, if a quarterback

(01:32:56):
can run. Maybe it makes up for some of the deficiencies.
I didn't mind that. I really don't have a problem
with even I don't have a problem with him speaking
his mind, and then when he spoke his mind, I
really didn't have a problem with any of the assessments
that he gave. Ben Roethlisberger is going to go to
the Hall of Fame, but he's picked him off three
times in his career, so obviously Jalen Ramsey has a
different opinion. I would also encourage people, and this may

(01:33:18):
be a conversation for another another segment on another day,
some other time, but maybe two thirty let's say beach
what we got planned already. UM, let's go ahead and
slow down. Deshaun Watson is the next and gonna be
competing for m VPS. Let's go ahead and slow down everybody.
I know everybody wants to proclaim that he's the next
great quarterback, but I don't know. Uh. If if some

(01:33:40):
quarterback in his rookie year average more than an interception
a game, I think we'd probably be pretty critical of him.
But because it's Deshaun Watson and they think they've found
the savior in Houston, I just a chronic knee injury
and turns the ball overway too much. Let's just slow
down at Deshaun Watson. The yeah, yeah, great games against

(01:34:03):
with the Chiefs and the Seahawks, like really like games
and great games. But when he got hurt too, there
are still like three and five like there wasn't like
they were in the playoffs on the outside looking in. Yeah,
I get it, but I think that I think that
the pieces that they have around him, with you know,
Dean DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller and what they've got
in the backfield with La Marmot, I think that's another

(01:34:24):
reason maybe why. But yeah, the guy coming off two
knee surgeries, I can understand your your trepidation, if you will.
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Hard Knocks episode two last night in Cleveland, as the
Browns were featured in. My biggest takeaway from last night
is I thought that Antonio Callaway was going to be
in for in for trouble when you think about the
issues that he had in Florida, the positive drug test
at the combine, which is why he fell in the draft.

(01:36:11):
To see the way that John Dorsey and Hugh Jackson
reacted to the Antonio Callaway arrest after he didn't tell
them about it, surprising to me that John Dorsey and
Hugh Jackson were really really calm in column in there,
I guess, delivering of the news with Antonio Callaway. Surprising

(01:36:32):
to me to see that last night. Yeah, I do
you think that had they not already traded Corey Coleman,
they would have been as as forgiving as they were,
because it seemed like, Wow, who else we got? Hey,
are anybody available in company? Is not returning my calls? Alright, Uh,
we'll let you up on the warning this time, kid.

(01:36:53):
I think that they in and in the clip that
they played of Mike Mayak of the NFL Network, I
think that they really believe that they got a steal.
And if it was any other fourth round pick, I
think that the circumstances around it would be different. But
even with those circumstances, Jonas, I would like I'm watching
John Dorsey and I'm watching Hugh Jackson, and I'm seeing

(01:37:16):
him sit down, and I'm waiting to hear what are
you doing? Like this is this is why you fell
in the draft. This is something that you've got to
clean up. You have got to be more aware. You've
got to tell us when stuff is going on. Instead
we get you know, Antonio, I'm a little disappointed in you,
Like that's all that we got. And then you got
Hugh Jackson telling the team everybody's got one mulligan what like,

(01:37:39):
like like what great? Okay? Good to know? Good to know?
I mean you know that there aren't you know, like
an Aaron Hernandez situation. Probably don't get another mulligan. I
mean like, hey, according to Hugh Jackson, everybody's got one
mess up. I didn't think Antonio Callaway's apology to the
team was very heartfelt. It did just I'm sorry I

(01:38:00):
did that put you guys in the situation, and then
he sat down. I don't know, to me, it just
it came off as just being so under I don't
I don't know, like under valued that it's not even
I just think that it was downplayed so much. I
thought it was a much bigger deal than the Browns
apparently led on well and all. And I don't know
what to make because you have a think factor in

(01:38:21):
how many how many hours of film and what they're
editing it down to. And I don't think that we
saw the whole conversation. And if we didn't see the
whole conversation, it does look bad on the Brown's part
that they look so forgiving with a rookie who was
pulled over, had a suspended license, and had weed in
the car after falling because of character issues in the draft,

(01:38:43):
Like that's just a little And then the fact that
his punishment was playing a whole preseason game. If I'm
a fan who bought tickets to that preseason game, what
does that tell me about my purchase? Like like that
NFL players see it as a punishment playing in front
of you the full time, you know what I mean? Like,
what is that you brought up reps as well? Yeah?
I mean I mean if like if you're a guy
that's behind Antonio Callaway on the depth chart after he

(01:39:05):
was just promoted the first team and you're trying to
get that spot, and all of a sudden you're not
getting reps because he's still out there. Yeah, that's an issue.
In fact, if I was a guy behind um, because
we were talking about Robert Giara, are executive producer, would
mentioned like, yeah, the guys who aren't getting reps behind
him before the show and I'm thinking, man, if I'm
a wide receiver there, and I'm thinking, all right, now

(01:39:25):
is my opportunity. They traded Corey Coleman, Now I think
I got a shot here to make this team. I
would call up my one buddy, who I know is
the most responsive, most irresponsible, and I'd say, hey, man,
I'm gonna let you borrow my car for two hours,
leave a bunch of weeding it, and then I'm gonna
blow through a stoplight in Berea and I'm gonna hope
I get pulled over so that way I get punished
and played the whole preseason so I get hold the snaps.

(01:39:46):
I mean, I do like, by the way, how you
gave Robert credit for his point and I couldn't remember.
I knew it wasn't John Ramos they came up. Absolutely
knew that because he was focusing on the John Ramos Show,
but it was it was Robert's take on that. Roberts
also just to just to tell you his thoughts. He

(01:40:07):
thinks that Hugh Jackson has looked awful in this season.
And when we talked to Mary Kay Cabot, we brought
up the status of Hugh Jackson, who I'm sorry is
on the hot seat. I believe everybody knows that Mary
Kay Cabot Cabot covers the Browns for Cleveland dot com,
and she joined us about Hugh Jackson's job security. Everyone

(01:40:28):
expects that this team sure to water around six or
seven games this year. I think everyone is looking at
this is sort of a reset in some ways. It's
not really even being viewed as Hugh Jackson's first year
as a head coach because he was kind of uh
hamstrong the first couple of years he had, he had
a hand tried behind his back, without the talent that
he really needed, without a quarterback. I mean last year, look,

(01:40:51):
they went into the season without a quarterback on the
roster who would ever won a football game in the NFL,
and she that had never started one. So, uh, you know,
I I think they're really just willing to give him
the chance to see what he can do with a
good GM that he gets along with and some talent.
I I think you're playing with fire if you're Cleveland,

(01:41:12):
if you don't have significant improvements. Think about this, Jonas
if they don't win, if they don't if they win
six or less games, I think that you can move
on from Hugh Jackson for the simple point of imagine
the candidates that would love that job with that talent there.
I don't think that they need to reset. I I
disagree in the sense of I think that you can

(01:41:35):
move on from him, and I think you're taking a
risk if you keep him around longer. If they don't
have the success this year, well, because it's not a
talent issue anymore. Pretty talented team, man. They've got a lot,
a lot of talent on that roster. And so that's
why even when we talked to Bucky Brooks before and
everyone's talking about Sam Donald, he's going to be the
guy to start. And my whole point, the whole time,
of every quarterback that was taken as a rookie who's

(01:41:57):
got the most help around him, because that's important. If
you don't think it's important, Look what happened to Jared Goff.
Look what the Bears are trying to do with Rabinsky.
Look at Carson Wentz. What you have around you is important. Well,
nobody's got more around him in Baker Mayfield. He's by
far got the most town around him of any young quarterbacks.
So if if the Browns continue and they only like
here's the most amazing, like the amazing numbers about Hugh

(01:42:20):
Jackson's time in Cleveland, this is how historically bad it's been.
If they go five and eleven, that's a five hundred
percent increase in winds over the last over the first
two years of this time in Cleveland. In any business,
in any walk of life, if you improve five hundred

(01:42:41):
percent in year three, that's incredible. But that is that
is a huge, huge growth spurt and an amazing thing
to have happened. But that being said, if you do
go five and eleven and you've increased five on your
wind total over the first two years, uh, that puts
you at six and forty two in three years as

(01:43:03):
a head coach. How the f are you keeping your job?
And if so, I want a job there because Jesus man,
I know, I I think it's I think it's got
to be a seven and nine, eight and eight, nine
and seven sort of season. And I just I think
that the talent is there in Cleveland, and I think
that if he wasn't there, then the job ends up

(01:43:24):
attracting a lot of very good candidates. I think that
you're playing with fire if you don't see that significant improvement.
And I what I asked Mary Kay about do you
stick with Tyrod a bit longer because of the possibility
of losing your job? And and she, you know, gave
that answer as you heard there as well, that I
just I think it's on the line, and I think

(01:43:45):
the talent there is as you said, it's it's the
best of any of the young quarterbacks. It's also why
I don't think that they need to bring in Dez Bryant.
I think that Dez Bryant what he would need. I
don't think that he is going to I don't think
he's going to settle in as a number three receiver
as could be the possibility in Cleveland. If you were there,
why would you want to bring in Dez Bryant If
you're going to hamper the production of Antonio Callaway and

(01:44:07):
if you end up getting someone of the likes of
Josh Gordon back in in the rotation. Plus with all
of the other weapons, it's they've got a lot of riches,
especially at the skill position. I would actually think that
if you want to know what they feel about Hugh
Jackson's future in Cleveland, you'll know if they trade Tyrod Taylor.
Because if somebody offers you up something to for Tyrod

(01:44:29):
Taylor this offseason and you're confident enough that Baker Mayfield
the guy and you and you trade Tyrod Taylor because
you get either a first round pick or a second
round pick, and you feel like you're not losing that
much with Baker Mayfield as your starting quarterback. That tells
me Hugh Jackson is not going to be around for
next year, because that means John Dorsey is saying, listen,
this is our guy. There's not that much of a different.

(01:44:51):
I'd rather get rolling now on Baker Mayfield's career than
wait another year. And if I can improve the roster
by adding a second round pick or a third round pick,
whatever you get for Tyre Taylor, that tells me that
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bottom of the ninth the name Mike Leaks so far
as throwing a gem for Seattle pitches eight innings, six strikeouts,
two hits and one walk against. But again this game
is scroireless. Right now is ahead to the bottom of
the ninth inning. In Oakland Twins earlier today, Twins batting
leading by one, Bobby Wilson swans and launches left field

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and deep down the line back at dolls and hold run. Wellson,
a former Texas Ranger, rates another former Texas Ranger, it's
a line drive. Rockets to left. The Twins have a
two run league Yeah Twins Radio Network for an answer.
They come back to beat the Pirates six to four.
White Sox six five winners over the Tigers. Top of
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They are doubling them up, eight to four. Anthony Rizzos
so far to for four. The home run a two
run shot, three runs driven. In National Football League News,
Broncos wide receiver Carlos Henderson's spend it for the first
game without pay after final the NFL policy and program
for substance abuse, and a couple of notes. In Seattle,
Seahawks tailbacker Shot Penny is gonna undergo surgery for a

(01:46:59):
broken bone in his hand out three to four weeks.
Should be ready for a week one, and according to
Adam Schefter, Seahawks have reached an agreement with former Colts
linebacker Eric Walden. Guys, it is all you and j. S.
Ramos zero f and six. Thank you very much, Dave.
This is the Nut gott Leave Show. He's Jonas Knocks.

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(01:48:03):
Suzanne tells him to sail. Yeah, yeah, I hope I
remember to get out. Let's do this good evening, everybody.
We have a great show for you tonight, It's what
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(01:48:26):
Woods Vintage performance at the BJ, we need to you
to tweet us your favorite comebacks of all time? Was
it Tom Brady in the Super Bowl against the Falcons?
What about the Calves coming back from down three one?
Or maybe it's Lisa Ann's return to the adult film industry.
Tweet us your answers and we'll read them on the
air Later on that night show. I'll share some of

(01:48:46):
my dirtiest sports secrets on the download, so stay doing
for that. Plus, today's National Freeway Signed Day, so we
want to know from you what your favorite freeway sign is.
Mine is z z z y x x off the
fifteen Physics. Yeah, that plays well for the national audience.
Joan is what is your favorite sign? I actually I'm

(01:49:08):
a book, my normal psychic Ryan. It's not here today,
but I have my friend Robert here with me. And Robert, Hey, John,
let's get a start with Let's get to start with
some football. How's all right? Look? I thought this was interesting.
Did you just see that butt light put Fridges all
around Cleveland that will give out free beer when the
Browns win their first game. Yeah, I did see that, John, Yeah,

(01:49:31):
and I heard they're going to do something similar here
in l A. Really. Yeah, they're gonna give out free
beer the next time the Dodgers convert a save. Come on,
didn't even laugh. But don't worry, the reporters will wish
happy birthday on Twitter. What else, whatever happened to? Whatever

(01:49:55):
happened to Lebron's headbrand? Find out next on the John
Ramos show, Thank You is that five seconds delay with
his studio audios in Saudi Arabia, they hear the joke
introducing Zubercats skating plush from the get is this cleaning

(01:50:22):
audio to uper Cats skating? Everybody giving up for Garth Frocks?
All right there, alright, nobody in country music has loved
more tender than my man, Garth Brooks. Don't forget. He'll
join me here upon stage later on for an in
depth interview. Got Shaquille O'Neal well and appearance to the

(01:50:45):
teeny bus. That's unbelievable. Thank you, Eric Rawbards. I'm back
of the editing. By the way, you know Frank Pollock
our former tech producer the Late Rate. He said if
he was in porn, his name would be Garth Brooks.
True story said it on the air, that's true. Talk
about our mutual patchelor for baseball Head sent Mike for

(01:51:06):
the den of Jeans. Thank you for that. Also exclusive
something you won't hear on any other show is Sam
Donald going to start for the Jets half Not for
you later on, but right now, just because I want
you to know where you can always count on the
genre almost show to give you the inside scoop. It's

(01:51:27):
time for this. Oh my god, I love this clothes
off story a while. Look, the Cleveland Browns have only
won one game in the past two seasons, but look

(01:51:47):
on the down low, I heard HBO was thinking about
putting them on hard notes this season. Our ratings are
so damn low. Lebron James play eighty two games with
the Calves for the first time in his career this
past season, but on the down low, I heard he's

(01:52:08):
thinking of signing with the Lakers. I does the music stop?
What about different button? Leo mckin ndonald And won the
last two NFL Defensive Player of the Year awards, but
on the down low. I heard both guys are unhappy
right now and they might hold out for new deals.

(01:52:33):
Why does Jake Color look like he has no chin
about next other John Robbo's show? Now this is buck Ball,
he can spin hair comes Katy. This is our last episode.
I firmly believe that's a wrap on the Did someone

(01:52:54):
spill a gallon of coke on the board? By the
way that the version, did Keane pick up a shift?
Let's here for Garth Brooks? Wait time out. I was
gonna say, it doesn't really sound like Garth. Well, it

(01:53:14):
sounds like a cover. Okay, it really does. I don't
think this is Garth Brooks. I don't know. Maybe I'm
wrong Edity Bay, thank you for that. By the way,
we'll talk to We'll talk to Garth later on. We'll
ask him this is really him. Also coming up, I
know you've been waiting on this for a while. Monday
was National Left Handers Day, so I will give you

(01:53:35):
my top ten left handed third string quarterbacks to play
in the y SEC in the nineties. Trust me, there
are some stars on that list. But of course it's
time for one of my favorites. It's the John Ramos
show mail bag. Look, this one comes from Arnie and Vermont.

(01:53:56):
Go ahead, Jonas, Hey, Hey, hey, hey, knuckle ahead. This
is Arnie in Vermont. Hey, John, I'm a big Arizona
Wildcats fan and I think Khalil Tate might when the
highs in this year. What do you think, knuckle ahead? Look?

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Great question, Arnie. I like Little Tit as well. But
you know there's a pub down in Tucson and that
has happy hour that goes all the way from nine
pm on Wednesday, and that's nice, So you should definitely
check that one up. Let's move on to Rob Detroit. John,
what the lines? Finally gonna cut the court with step padfood?

(01:54:39):
He's not a good quarterback. Great question, Rob, thank you
for asking. There's just something about walking across the etmail
bridget two in the morning on a Saturday night that
really puts things in perspective. How about this mail from
Steven San Diego. I think, John, we lost the Clippers
and now we lost the Chargers. Why does it only

(01:55:00):
sports team on a stay in San Diego? Steve? Thanks
for checking in. You know I went to Sea World
with my kids a few weeks ago. A plays and
two hours turns out that none of the whales are
actually named Shamu, and I thought that was very interesting. Look,
that's all the time we have for tonight. A big
thanks to everyone who joined us, including Garth Brooks for

(01:55:20):
me tonight special guests. Sorry gee Brooks, about to get
back you later on and Robert, I'll catch you on
your backside. Was unbelievable. Um man, Oh my god, I
don't know why. Uh he said, take it away, Jonas

(01:55:43):
when a guy from Arni who was like an artie
was calling in the old saying it's just like riding
a bike. Yeah, wheel, yeah, yeah, that was that was
quite a ride. May Man. Maybe when there's gaps between

(01:56:04):
John Ramo shows, we should just do dry runs in between.
Oh my god, that is too good. I man, good stuff.
I'm so glad that wasn't on the air, like it
was just a practice edition. I'm so glad it just
you know, we didn't try and do it. One take
on standby and we're back on Fox Sports Radio. Oh man,

(01:56:27):
that was too good. Um all right, Dan Buyer, Jonas
knocks him for Doug godd Leep here on Fox Sports Radio.
If you have any information you would like to pass
along to John Ramos, or if you would like to
provide him with ideas for future John Ramas show bits,
please hit him up at j S Ramo zero six
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(01:56:51):
have got a couple of stories in the world of
sports that have not been touched on. We will hammer
those out for you and try and follow up that
scintilating performance by John next year on FSR. Be sure
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(01:57:35):
Cowherd on the Herd and just just heads up Jonas
before we get to the press and David Gascon. John
Ramos has um an announcement to make. Yeah, I'd like
to make an on air public apology to Eric Roberts
in the back. Uh, he did not mess up the
Garth Brooks song. Uh, that was myself for leaving David
Chat's council mike open and he played the Genie Buss

(01:57:56):
sound that came across the air. So I appologiz and
also apologize to our friend who was on the show,
Garth Brooks, since that wasn't him. I think acknows with
the time where you apologize to Scotch Chapiro and Don
Mark at they like the show, Let's find out what's happening. Geez, yeah, no,

(01:58:20):
we can do that. That's fine. It was just really loud.
I don't know that's what's happening in one of the sports.
David Gascon is here, you know, I guess I gotta
be on board with this. I gotta apologize to Eric
Roberts too. And part of the reason was we played
some sound earlier today and a certain email sounder came
on and I immediately turned off my microphone and called

(01:58:41):
him up and started airing him out for putting that
sounder into a sound bite for you guys. So yeah,
I gotta apologize publicly to Eric Roberts. That was our
executive producer, Robert Gara, who was buying birthday presents for
himself during the show at a discounted rate on upon.
I would also like to I would like to apologize

(01:59:02):
to Eric Roberts as well, too, um for walking in
on him a few minutes ago when he was drinking
out of a flask. I didn't mean to do that. Seriously,
I'm seriously sorry about that. I'd like to apologize. Uh, guys,
We'll start things off in the NBA and this Genie
Buss was on with Rich Eisen today talking about Kobe Bryant,

(01:59:25):
Lebron James, the future the Lakers and this, that and
the other. When we got Shaquille O'Neal as a free
agent in it kind of felt the same way, which
that is the formula, kind of the way Dr Bust
like to do things is to go after the best
and you know, put together the best team he can

(01:59:46):
to play and represent the Lakers. Entergy Al McGhee. You
got it, okay, all right, guys. Lebron James obviously coming
to town do you see anywhere on this roster that
is a up and coming Kobe Bryant or anyone that
rivals that, or of course on the bench. Phil Jackson
to Luke Walton, Uh, listen, I I just to her comments.

(02:00:09):
I'll just say this, Dave. It's a pretty easy formula
where you could just go out and get the biggest
star in the NBA, like they've been able to do.
And they're only certain amount of teams that can have
the cash to do that, and the Lakers are one
of them. I know what wants to sound fancy if
that's the formula, but there are very few teams that
can make that formula work. Yeah, it's not real rocket science.

(02:00:29):
It's not well, you know, we crunch the numbers and
we found that. No, you'r l A and it's the Lakers,
and it's pretty simple the magic. We can turn things
around if we get Lebron James and Kevin Duran. Imagine
that's the formula. Just imagine that, guys. We go onward
to Major League Baseball. A couple of notes here. Big
news for the Houston Astros. Who's al today is gonna
take batting practice today. He had been on the disabled

(02:00:51):
list since July of twenty six with discomfort in his
right knee. Looks to return to the line up sometime
here in the immediate future. But the Astros are sitting
pretty right now. They're a gaming of Oakland in the
a L West, but seventy three and forty seven, they're
one of the top dogs in all of the land.
I've said, I'm looking forward. I think that the America
League playoffs are gonna be like the Western Conference Playoffs
were in the NBA in October, because there's just gonna

(02:01:13):
be great games after great games. But you obviously you
need a lot of health. The Astros having some health
issues this season. George Springer dinged up a bit too,
um Carlos Korea as well. They're gonna need everybody healthy.
They're gonna want to overtake the to knock off the
Red Sox right now, even though the Astros are the
defending champ, Boston has the best record. What do you

(02:01:34):
think the chances are before the World Series they could
put the Astros back in the n L so that
the World Series would actually nobody has a shot. This
year it's over. Nobody has a shot. Sorry, guys, we
go from everything in Major League Baseball, I Guess to
the Gridiron and a little bit of baseball. Our our

(02:01:55):
favorite quarterback baseball player, broadcaster tim Ebo and his brother
Robbie are actually making a film. It's a faith based
movie about a couple of brothers looking to overcome adversity
through sports. One track star and the other one is
you Guess today football player. The name of the movie
Run the Race also features till back Eddie George, the

(02:02:17):
former Heisman Trophy winning running back. That will premiere here
in the next couple of months. They're in post production
right now. Would you see it? Yes, you're no Dann Buyer.
Um I know, John Ramoss answer, if it comes with
a free pass? Yes, Um, I'm probably gonna take a
pass on this one. No shot, not a chance to
get out there and pressed. That was the press. Would

(02:02:40):
that be a movie you'd like to go to, John Ramos,
says a premier. Sure, Hey, do some interviews on the
red carpet, John, and see if you can get any
of those guys to curse. Come on, seriously, checks, come on,
There's an easy way to make someone curse. Just try
to get them to produce the John Ramo Show for
the day after the three week hiatus and Finger You've

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