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On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Cowboys "win' over the Packers Sunday night as the game finished in a tie. 

On this edition of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most about the weekend. 

Doug welcomes former Chargers and Raiders GM Tom Telesco onto the show to discuss the Ravens, Chargers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.

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we got a crazy weekend of college football. Another firing
in high major college football, and I don't even know
if we have time to get to it today because
baseball playoffs are a day away from start. The playoffs
are in fact set and oh yeah, by the way,
crazy day in the National Football League we've we've done

(01:07):
this before with the Cowboys. We did it week one
and now we've we've learned in week three, which is
what have we learned? What do we learned? The Cowboys
aren't as bad as we thought, or maybe it's the
momentum of a game, or maybe the other team is
not as good as we thought. But last night was

(01:28):
just a wild game, just a wild game. And if
you had the assumption that was gonna be a blowout,
and early on it looked like it might be a blowout,
never fear. The Packers' ability to keep a game that
should have been a blowout close is here. And then
you factor in that Micah Parsons is playing for the
Packers and not the Cowboys, and it was a huge

(01:50):
part of the discussion. And then you factor in that
Ceedee Lamb wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this,
this shouldn't be close. After the game one and win,
it's the Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can
all is that? Okay? We all okay? Saying that Cowboys
won forty to forty. They won a game that was tied.
Here's Jerry Jones, owner and general manager of the Cowboys

(02:12):
talking about the game, I don't want to play.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
That game was probably a great game for the NFL
as far as the showcase for the game and competition,
because you had outstanding quarterback play, you had some very
talented people out there playing. You certainly had one of
the most expensive players in the history of the NFL
out there playing. And so I guess everybody was going

(02:35):
to take a look tonight and decide to see.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Work all there.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind, right,
and so yes, and Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Was and Michael wasn't. I would can we just we
haven't seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in
the playoffs. But if we're having four weeks of the season,
are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that
watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know

(03:11):
anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does.
I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay
Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam
watches WNBA and football, right. I think Jay Stu probably
mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially

(03:32):
Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own
college basketball team, but we watch a lot of football,
are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for
a lot of things, he has been his reason behind
hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons,

(03:53):
his reason behind a lot of things is I got
Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't
have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships.
I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right Like,
had he hired a different coach, that would have been

(04:14):
a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows. If
Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and
total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he
did going back to last year, and he looks like
one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Meyer
you okay with saying that.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That Dek looks like a top five quarterback?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and essentially, again,
I don't know if you want to go through numbers
of who looks, you know, whatever, but I would say
that if Jerry's right about anything, he is right about
Dak Prescott so.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Far, I will I will just say this because I've
never had a problem with Dak at all, and I
think I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak.
So I think last night was what we saw with
Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines with.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
You, okay, Sam.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Last night I looked at Dak in his performance and
I'm like, you know what, this this year so far
and then his past seasons. I just look at him
as like the industry standard. Like he is. He is
a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid. Maybe
he's not the flashiest all the time, but he is
like he is, He's the standard. That's how you should
play quarterback. I don't know if I put him top five,
maybe he floats around in there, but he is the

(05:27):
industry standard in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Jay.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Still, I'm gonna answer your question with a question, would
you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week,
would you be surprised if he did a head scratching
a bad decision in the next game and we're in
a week we're talking about him being a dumb crap
because like the thing with Dak Prescott to me, has
always been consistency. When he's been healthy, he does he

(05:50):
goes up and down. So we're talking about him after
a really good game. He seems to have had a
couple good games in a row here. But the thing is,
I wouldn't be surprised if he if he didn't do
well in the next game, and we're talking about the
weird decision making and the interception or whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually
kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks.
And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears
where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right,
I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants.
He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey,
out of four games, he's played well in three of them,

(06:30):
my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing.
Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers,
Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you
go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It would probably impress me. Though, if he backed up
this performance with another outstanding performance.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
So then he's not top five, right, because you expect
a more consistent quarterback in the top five.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Uh yeah, eah? So who are the top five quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Though?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes,
although Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of
it is he didn't have weapons to throw to all year, right,
Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there.
I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of
the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of
the reason was as good was he had no protection.
So who else are we? Lamar has been good but

(07:29):
bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost.
So who else are we we're putting in that list?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
I think Burrow's always two or three, right.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Sure, but he's hurt and.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
You're talking first four weeks of the season. Top five
quarterback play?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I think the point is is that he's definitely in
the top ten, and right now it leads the NFL
in passing yardage, So there's that aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I would say through four games of the season, we
can we can all say like he may we may
carry pass biases against him, and that's fair. But if
you'd say, through four games of the season he hasn't
looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding
the past against him too much. And and and again,

(08:22):
what was Jerry's logic. Jerry's logic was last year and
signing him first was he's the most valuable you have
to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic
in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working,
he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it.
Let's let's let's fall there and then and I don't

(08:42):
know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons
or if this is just something that he's come upon,
which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want
to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already
paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I
don't need to be doing that with two different guys.
And so if I have to choose between one, I'm
gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision.

(09:04):
That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten
both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse
for it, of course, but I also think that Dak
Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader. If
you found an offense that works for him, Now you
have two first round picks, you free some money up
for future years, rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard.

(09:28):
Isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback? Yes, yes, Dan, you.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Know it's funny because I'm just I'm looking at I'm
watching a highlight package now of last night, and I
think that Jerry made all the right decisions. But also
these decisions are made like via Jerry, And it's funny
because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the screen just as
much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And Jerry Jones is
on the set of Sunday Night Football in America last

(09:55):
night talking with the whole thing. So whether it works
out in the long term or not, and I think
in the short term it's worked out for Dallas, and
Jerry keeps on saying in the long term, they've got
those picks.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
That deal is is right to the wheelhouse for Jerry
because he's the focus of attention. And now when we're
you know, waxing poetically or most of us are about Dak.
It's more about Jerry, like as crazy as it is.
And I don't know how good the Cowboys are after
a miserable week in week three, but even after a tie,
I think we're looking like Jerry and the Cowboys at

(10:29):
least are winners right now.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Sure, suh, that's the be That's why I say they
won last night forty to forty. They won last night
forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was
not at all pleased with the result.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Obviously he didn't come down here to tie a football game,
but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led
to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great
job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field.
But there's a lot of things that we all have
to clean up, and starting with myself, I mean trying
to be aggressive at the end of the half and

(11:02):
that that really bit us in the butt.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, end of the half and end of game and
end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor.
We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end
of the game, which caused them to have to tie.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
That just goes to the level of detail where we're
not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left,
we call a play to take a shot.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
To the end zone. They played cover two.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
We end up checking the ball down, so we have
it on the ball call to send everybody to the
end zone. And we knew that there. I mean, we
use the turmo zone saying that it's got to go
out of bounds or end zone.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Obviously with time remaining, and.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Just the operation was just way too slow, Like I
don't know if our guys didn't know where in two
minutes or what. But ultimately the communication has got to
get better. Myself to Jordan, Jordan to the huddle. And
that's that's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad,
tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the
end of the game, and here's guys that have been
they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before,
you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they
look disorganized. And I get that it's true this season
and I get that it's it's crazy. Maybe you didn't
expect to be in that position. I commend Lafour Like

(12:15):
Lafour is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got
to be better. They got to know what we're in.
You know, these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for
the Packers who started out like a house of fire
and felt like they went through the motions last week
and got beat And obviously you give up a block
field goal last week a blockfield goal this week, and

(12:37):
that ends up being the difference in both those games.

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(13:31):
integrated into Bill's mafia, plus the Bills are undefeated, we'll
preview our Monday night football at doubleheader. Oh yeah. Also,
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going to be fantastic, fantastic. We do this every Monday.
It's a great way of basically exposing what we watched

(13:53):
and what we cared about this weekend. It's also a
good way of talking about other topics. We call it
love and hate. Did you love God?

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I love you?

Speaker 7 (14:02):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Meet these player haters?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
What you love from the weekend? What did you hate
from the weekend? Love? Love, love, hate hate? Hate? Dude?
Do do bum bum bum baby bo bum bum by?
Uh boy? I know what I hated? That one's pretty easy.

(14:28):
There are two. Oh it was God there's a play
I really hated. Let me tell you the start with
what I loved, but I want to start with Dan
Byer because he's a resident lover boy.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
D w A, you got, Doug.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I don't know if I should love or hate it
because I hated the first two days of the Ryder
Cup for the United States. However I did love on
Sunday the comeback and the fire that they had. It
does tell me a little bit that maybe this is
the problem with the US Ryder Cup team, is that
they are so great and their individual aspects, but some
reason it does not translate into the team aspect. But

(15:05):
if the US would have just laid down on Sunday,
it would have been a completely wasted weekend.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
It was you.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
You were you were singing. I know, I know, I
just didn't realize. I was just saying I felt that
it was good that the US came back on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I love
here real quick. Okay, what are you say? What do
you think of? I'm sorry, I just.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Think there's a lot of meat on that bone at
the Ryder Cup. We have a golf expert on the
show so many theatrics, so many insults. I thought the
American fans looked like a bunch of jerks, Dan, Are
you as most of us were with the way the
Americans treated the Europeans on the course this weekend, Doug, I.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Was completely uncomfortable, Dan, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think that I think there was an awful look,
like there is a line. And I feel that with
all the hype that we gave to this Ryder Cup
being at Bethpage Black, that the fan base there was
set up for it and felt entitled to treat like this,
treat the players like this. I mean they had an
MC that they the PGA of America had hired that

(16:23):
gets on the mic and yells bleep you Rory on
Saturday to go along with the chance And I just
it's it was an awful look, atrocious look, and I
felt that the build up to it enabled all of this.
Oh wait till they get the Bethpage bath Page is
gonna get rowdy. I would have hate to have seen

(16:44):
would have been like if the US was winning, because
I almost think it could have been worse.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Because it's embarrassing that we got smoked. We were getting
smoked and we were acting with that way.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
And yeah, so like I don't know which way to
take it, but it really was embarrassing. And I don't
want to see Shane Lowry jumping around on the green
when they win the Ryder Cup. I wish the US
would have won that match, however, or won any of
those matches over the weekend on Friday and Saturday. However,
it is a competition. They came in and handed the

(17:14):
US their lunch. That's what it's all about. It's not
about yelling bleep you Rory and heckling Rory's family, and yeah,
just yelling things to Shane Lowry that crossed the line
of heckling. Having fans kicked out?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Such a ridiculous, just ridiculous atmosphere that I felt was
built up because that's all we said. Wait till they
get to Beth Page. All those New York fans and
then the New York fans.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Hey, New York enjoy the Mets playoff run? Oh wait,
they don't have one. You just you embarrassed the entire country.
And as much as you can write it off as like,
well that's just maga idiots, apparently that's who we are, right,
That's who we are, right, that's who we have become,

(18:03):
whether you like it or not. Okay, it's it's just
like anything people bring in the predetermined bias as to
who Americans are. And because our president goes, you know,
in New York at the at the United Nations and
says like all of your countries are going to hell,
right and starts just trashing everybody else, then all these

(18:24):
other aid it's like, yeah, you suck rw y like.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
That.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's again. It doesn't mean you have to golf clap.
It doesn't mean you can't cheer wildly, it doesn't mean
you can't boo. But it's like you said, Dan, everybody
knows the line, and we were so far over the line.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You got golfers saying you f U f you. They're
only doing that if they're just tired of the verbal abuse.
They just had it. And by the way, eat it.
We lost. You look like the world's biggest clown. That's
what athletes actually think, right when you lose, Like, hey man,
you gotta shake hands. That that's it. You don't have
to like it, you gotta shake hands. When fans continue

(19:08):
this year after losing you, you just appear to be
the biggest losers ever, even if you're a super successful guy. Whatever,
that's your inner hate, whatever, you just can make us
all look like clowns. I thought that was wis just
I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So fired up about we went on to a different
track there. Sorry, but it's okay, it's all. It's all
in code, it's all in it's all.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Let me tell you what I love speaking of idiot fans. Okay,
how many idiots that think of themselves as Alabama fans?
Said fire Kaylin de Moore. Hey, he's an embarrassment. Bring
back Nick Sapement. I don't care for costs. Just seven
million dollars to get rid of them. Get rid of them.
Alabama football is going to hell. It's going to hell.

(19:54):
And what they what they do Saturday?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Dann Bayer when to Athens and one.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yes led from kickoff to finish. Okay, we stood an
unbelievable comeback from a really good, really well coached football
team with a really good ground game. Like Georgia didn't
play terribly, Alabama was just better. So all of you
just know I love it. I got video on my
social media this lady was like, if I win in

(20:21):
the lottery, first thing I'm gonna do is get rid
of Kaylin de boor Hey, lady, you sound like an
idiot because this is what happens with fans. You don't
know about what you don't know about. Guys, got a
new quarterback, got half a new team. They had to
go into Florida State first week of the season, and
they got beat from another team that's pretty good, probably
way better than you think, maybe not as good as
they look that day. It's one game. It's what you

(20:41):
do over the lifespan the season. Let the guy coach
and Kaylen de Bor congratulations. I love that you went
in there and beat George's ass. All right, what he
got there?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just this is a love filled with lots of tension
and hate. That's fine, though, Go ahead, Jason.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
I love that Aaron Rodgers played well. I love that
the Steelers wont I pull for Aaron Rodgers. I pull
for interesting people. I want him to succeed, so it's
great to see him succeed. He looks really like he's
having fun too. I don't know if you guys watched
kind of his demeanor yesterday. It looks like a guy

(21:14):
who's like, this is my last season. I'm going to
enjoy every last minute of it. It got a little
dicey at the end, but it doesn't matter. And the
only thing I like better than watching Aaron Rodgers win
is when Aaron Rodgers wins me money. Because for the
fourth straight week in a row, I have put my good,
hard earned money on the team against Colin Cowherd's favorite

(21:39):
choice of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's your favorite thing, and it worked again.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
He loved the Vikings, loved and of course I put
money on the Steelers and got up in the middle
of the second quarter and watch the rest game and
really like that. Do you guys know how hard it
is to miss four games? It's just as hard as
being four games, right, It's hard. It's just as hard

(22:03):
to go four and oh than it is zero to four.
So again, when Cowherd says this is the one that
I like most this weekend, put money down on the
other one.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And that's.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
That's credit to the Vikings. They did make it interesting late.
But but what Sam doesn't understand, and he pointed that
out on text too, and I get it. Sam doesn't gamble.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
It's not that Cowherd said that the Vikings might pull
it pull it off rarely, he liked them. He he
was wondering why it was a two and a half
point spread. He thought it was going to be at
least a seven point outcome. Get that, So just just
them making it close doesn't count, right, and in this conversation,

(22:47):
but understand, shall I go?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (22:50):
You should?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, I had a my second ever NFL Sunday. That's
what I love. And thanks to Scott Shapiro made that happen.
AD some tickets for some people here at FSR to
go to the Rams hosting the undefeated Colts. So I
was sitting next to Covino and rich producer Danny g
and his steps on AJ and then I brought my
friend Dylan. You know, it's I think the only way

(23:14):
you can really go to these games, especially in place
like La affordably is to get something completely for free.
So I love that I got free tickets. You still
got to pay for parking, which is ridiculous even off site,
but we had an off site parking spot, a little tailgating.
The clouds cleared out, beautiful day, had some great seats
down at the hundred level. It was a little hot
in their little Muggy gets a little muggy in there

(23:35):
in so far, but it was It was a fun game.
It was kind of locked at thirteen to ten for
a while, and then the last few minutes the Rams
kind of came back with an explosion of points and
you know you can you can't not bring up a
done Mitchell's fumble as he was going over the goal line.
That was a big break for the Rams, big break

(23:57):
for the Rams. And but still the Colts had a
twenty to thirteen lead late and the Rams just exploded.
And then it was Matthew Staffer's longest ever pass play
to to two at well eighty eight yards. He had
a nice game. He kind of dinked and dunked a lot,
and then he had that huge pass play and exciting
way to end it. The place was nuts. The Rams
fans were great. I had a great time. You make

(24:18):
a day of a game like that, like you gotta
get down there, you gotta get back, you know, you
spend six seven hours just going to a game. But
I loved it. I had a great time. Jase can
I can I quick jump in just something quick?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
That explains why you thought the Vikings, you know, made
it close at the end because you were all tail gatting, right,
you probably didn't see watching.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, well that game, Yeah, I mean I was falling
along with it. But that game was over by like
my local time. We hadn't even left yet. Yeah, a
bunch of like the Steelers, some of their decisions let
the Vikings bash. But also ad Ni Mitchell had a
holding call on Jonathan Taylor's touchdown run late in the game.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
At night Mitchell, I mean like I wanted to get
I mean, I don't think he was showboating when he
lost the football.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
No, No, it was weird.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think he was switching. I don't know, he was
like moving, he was kind of maybe changing hands with
the ball, but it just no, he was he was,
he was, he was. He was about to hold it up,
hold up over the goal line.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I think he was about to hold it up after
they went into the end zone, and it slipped out
of his hand.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Right before he walked over. And that was like the
whole dynamic of inside SOFI changed. There were a lot
of Colts fans there too, credit to them, but that
was that was crazy. And then's the way the game
ended was was, so we don't.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
We're not putting this in the category of all these
weave the ball right before the well I.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Was going to get to that with my hate. Well,
we'll talk about that with the hate. Let's get Jay Stu,
get your get your love.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I love Aaron Rodgers and I love the Steelers winning
me money yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
There you go, that's covered. Let's get Oh we did,
we did. I'm I'm so wrapped up in in uh
in yours. All right, let's get to hate. Let's start
with our resident hater, Jay Stu.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I was a part of the millions of people on
Twitter who were in Adam Schefter's mentions yesterday. I don't
know if you guys saw this. This might be a
little too inside baseball. I know Buyer followed it. I
think Schefter has a problem with people who were raised
in southern California. He took dead aim at Doug gottlieblest December,

(26:23):
and then he screwed me over this weekend. So I
have Jalen Warren on my fantasy team, and like millions
of people across the country, I went to bed Saturday
night with a report from Adam Schefter that Jalen Warren
would be active for the game in Ireland. That so

(26:44):
I left him in my lineup and I went to sleep.
I wake up into the first quarter and I check
my phone and Jalen Warren in the meantime was scheduled
as an inactive And all those people that went to
sleep thinking Jayalen Warren was fine and left them in

(27:05):
the lineup, we're all over Schefter's mentioned. I think this
is insider malpractice. I think that Schefter and the coaches
and the NFL needs to do a better job of
catering to fantasy owners. I was an Adam Schefter casualty
on Sunday, and I'm still pissed off about it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Okay, uh damn byer.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Wow, there is a lot to get to.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I will say this, this is some bad audio, but
this is what James Franklin had to say after Penn
State lost in overtime to Oregon. I hope you guys
can hear it. Sammy may have to turn down the
music a little bit just because we didn't get a
good mic on this.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
This is James frank I.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
Kind of look at the entire picture. I get that narrative.
It's really not a narrative. It's fatal.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's the facts.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
I get it, but I try to look at the
entire picture and what we've been able to do here.
But at the end of the day, we've got to
find a way to win those games.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
And I take ownership and I take responsibility.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
This sat with me all weekend and hearing that sound bite,
because at first I thought that I loved it that
he recognized the noise, and then as I listened to
it and thought about it more, I almost feel that
he's trying to dismiss the noise. And I'm curious and
your thoughts, Doug on that, because I don't think a

(28:28):
lot of times we're fair to James Franklin. But the
numbers are the numbers. Like now, Oregon was ranked sixth,
so we expand instead of top five, we say top
six teams. That's not necessarily fair. That's just trying to
make a stat look worse than maybe what it is.
But it's not good with James Franklin, And so it
sat with me yesterday at this time he feeled to

(28:49):
talk to me, and I said, that's good for James
Franklin owning it up, but as it's gone on and on.
I almost feel like he's dismissing it by saying, yeah,
I know it's there, but this is what's going on.
So it just kind of got to bother.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Me more and more. Speaking of recognizing the noise, it
sounded like James Franklin was doing that press conference from
a jet.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well that's that's the problem. There's for some reason this
is old audio stuff. But all we can get our
people holding cell phones. Even the official like press conference
video that we were trying to pull from was far away,
but it was.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Loud and clear to me.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I get the narrative.
Two and twenty one against top six teams, fifty er row.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's impossible to get away from it, and I feel.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's what he was trying to say.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, But in a way, I also feel that he's
dismissing it by just saying, all right, that it's factual.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Maybe maybe I was right yesterday in my feeling about it,
but today I feel differently.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I just look at four and twenty one against top
ten teams. Those are facts, Jack, So there you got
star facts. Check.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
What do you got there? Jase Sammy.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Well, my hate is how the Iowa Indiana game ended
on Saturday. Iowa had not welcome to ranked team to
Kinnick Stadium for three seasons, which is kind of hard
to believe. They had had dog poo opponents coming to
town for a couple of seasons. They finally they finally
get a really good Indiana team at number eleven coming
in and the whole game was tense. I mean, by

(30:14):
the time it was over, I was chewed up and
spat out. I was just I felt like I had just,
I don't know, just a crime had been committed and
I was there traumatized. I think that a lot of
Iowa fans expected Iowa just kind of get their pants
pulled down. They didn't. They really battled in the game.
But then you get to the final three minutes and
Iowa picks off quarterback Indiana quarterback Fernanda Mendoza's first interception

(30:37):
of the year. They returned it all the way to
I think the IU twenty nine yard line. Oh on this,
by the way, Iowa's quarterback Mark Ronowski had been out
the entire fourth quarter with injury, which sucked and does
still suck because we don't really know his status right now.
So incomes Auburn transfer Hank Brown. They try to get
it in field grange.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
They do.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
They get it to a forty two yard attempt and
Iowa's very reliable kicker, dw Stevens. This is all with
three under three minutes ago. Drew Stevens kicks a wobbler.
It goes wide left. I don't know if the hold
was great, I don't know, but it didn't go in
and usually Drew Stevens's money, so they could have gone
up sixteen thirteen. Anyway, They give the ball back to Indiana,
and Indiana hits a long pass play, breaks a tackle,

(31:19):
and their guy siat I believe that's his name, takes
it in for a touchdown and Indiana wins twenty to
fifteen after a very weird safety that uh even Mendoza
acknowledged afterward cooked the spread, as he said, all right
that that was just a tough, tough way to lose.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
All right, I'll give you a tough way to lose.
Deuce Robinson's going in the end zone for Florida State.
Ball is thrown to him before the goal line and
he catches it, bobbles it tip whatever catches it, gets
it into his possession, gets both feet down. Then while
his feet are in the air before he steps out
of bounds, he like automatically adjusts it to one hand.

(31:55):
But because he adjusted that split second, it appears that
he doesn't have control. Okay, I just just kind of
let's go around here, Dan, you know the play I'm
talking about? Correct? Yes, did he catch the football?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not saying did he illegally
catch it with the with the ball adjusted, like if you're.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Like, yeah, he caught it when he was out of
the end zone.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yes, Okay, Sam, do you think he caught the football? Okay?
Jay Stu probably not familiar with the play either.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Not what I and I have no problems, admitted on
the air, as Sam.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Was, I was not familiar with the play.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But it was a crazy game. Virginia had the lead
Florida State going down trying to win the game or whatever,
and you'll see it. It's one of the craziest catch
no catch. I rule it the greatest incompletion, greatest incomplete
catch of all time.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I watched that game and I don't I don't recall that,
but he bobbled it for twelve yards through the end zone.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Okay, okay, I'll send it to you. No, No, it's
what I what I hate is he caught it, but
it's not a complete pass and it just it Also,
it just shows like all it's gonna sit there and
goes like wow, Mike. No Valley lost to Virginia, like okay,
but they the game was not and I felt like

(33:20):
it was one of the great field stormings of all time.
But they came in fast. They came in fast and hot.
Has anybody found that Florida state wide receiver that that
was laying on the ground when they went. It looked
like he got trampled. Maybe he didn't get trampled. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
They put it out a statement saying he's okay, but
it definitely looked like he was dead. Like they killed it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
It looked like they killed him Virginia, right, And for
Virginia fans, think about it, how the hard that is.
You're Virginia fan, right, You're not used to good football.
You got your sweater tied around your neck, you got
your tea in one hand, right, you got your monocle
on the other hand. And now you got to run
on a football field. That's really hard, very difficult for
Virginia fans.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Could we point out the fact that that was funny.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I thought that was funny. That was no nothing from them, zero, Okay,
go ahead. I'm sorry, jeez too.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
I'd like to point out the fact that half of
the Jay's two team parway was Virginia and that Sam
had the balls to go right after me in the
gambler and put his money on Florida State. We all
know how that ended up, thank you.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I yeah, and I did. I thought Florida State would
win this one convincingly. They did not double overtime game.
They couldn't even cover. Florida State could not have even
covered if they wanted to. They would only won by
a few points, two points, whatever. But I did have
a problem with that field storming. It looked amazing, but
that looked super dangerous, and Virginia was fine fifty grand

(34:41):
for that. So I was like, just it was just
too fast, too much. It was like just people flooding
onto the field really too fast, too furious, too fast,
too furious. I just it looked dangerous for the players.
I love the enthusiasm from the fans and they have
been waiting a long time. But man, that was just
that looked a little out of control.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And that is love.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
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Speaker 1 (35:10):
Doug Gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco will join
us after the update and we'll get his thoughts on
on on questions like this, like, uh, what are you
think's going on with the Ravens? A lot of injuries now, Uh,
Lamar Jackson tugs his hamstring. Here's John Harbaugh after the game.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
You know.

Speaker 10 (35:34):
The three losses are gets probably three of the top
teams in the league for sure, you know, And that's
just the hand we've been dealt. But it doesn't really matter.
We've gotta we've gotta win the next game. And then
once you win the next game, then you have a
chance to start stacking some wins. And that's what we've
got to do, big picture wise, but small picture wise.
We gotta do a great job of putting together a
great game plan and a great practice and then a
great game.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, and they got to know who's gonna be on
their team, who's gonna be, who's gonna be playing, who's
gonna be playing.

Speaker 9 (35:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm not gonna bail on the on the Ravens. That'd
be silly, especially when you look at that division. Right,
Bengals don't have Burrow Browns. I know they had a
huge win over the Packers last week, but there's still
the Browns and the Steelers. It feels like it's coming together,
but it's hard to tell if it was coming together
because they played the Vikings, were so depleted by injury
and have a rookie quarterback. You heard that intro song,

(36:22):
so Bad Bunny is playing it at halftime. I want
to make sure this is clear. I want to be consistent. Okay,
before you complain about Bad Bunny and you go, I
don't know any of those songs. I don't either. Guess what.
They're not designed for us? Okay, it's not meant for us,

(36:46):
that freaking voodoo music. Sure, but we're not. We're all
gonna watch the super Bowl if there was no halftime show, right,
So they have to find somebody who all the sponsors
agree with that works and then they got to find
somebody who can bring the biggest audience that wouldn't normally

(37:10):
watch through watch up until halftime of an NFL game.
That's the logic behind I hate that song, I got it,
but that's the logic behind Once we understand that logic
that remember whether it's I think Apple has to agree
with it. Right there the title sponsor. I don't know
if Pepsi still does the halftime show whatever this year,

(37:33):
is that NBC is doing the game, so NBC has
to be on board. Can't be somebody who NBC doesn't want.
All these corporate partners have to come to okay, And
then when they're trying to find the right group, band, singer, performer,
generally the plan is who can we get that people
who don't traditionally like to watch NFL games will watch.

(37:53):
That way we bring more people because everybody who likes
to watch NFL games, or even partially like to watch
NFL games, they can watch anyway.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
That seems to make sense to me what you just said.
At the same time, there's a I don't know who
the target is, like even Jay Z and like his
announcement was like, uh, Benito's been great for Puerto Rico. Okay,
I don't know what that has to do with his
legitimacy for being the halftime performer. I think Kendrick Lamar

(38:25):
got similar pushback in that a lot of people aren't
familiar with his music. Ken Mar has has won like Grammys,
he's won like Pulitzers, like he's a genius. I don't
know what bad bunny bring what what audience does he
bring to this thing? Is it your twelve year old daughter,
is it your twenty one year old half big college

(38:46):
student or.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I think I think, uh women, and I think, uh Latino.
That would be my guess.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
He's got three three Grammy's, eleven Latin Grammys, so I
mean he's very popular. But yeah, it's at least Kendrick Lamar,
like Kendrick Lamar is American. I mean he's wraps in English.
I mean that's it's gonna probably reach more people. I
would think Puerto Rico obviously if part of the US
in a way, but it's not. But yeah, twelve year

(39:20):
olds to bring him in.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well again, what's sixty five million latinos in the United States?
Sixty five million? Sixty five million? There's your answer. And
yeah and excuse younger and excuse excuse Latin hope makes
complete sense to me.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think Jason, though, has always been on the point
that like the NFL do this stuff like the go
play games in other countries and then they'll do like
the halftime show like this, And Jason, when you say that,
like you're kind of worried about the actual NFL audience
being turned off and isolated and alienated.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Doesn't work that way, though, Everybody's still going to watch
the Super Bowl. Dan, you had something, you looked you
had something you want.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
To add, No, go ahead, that's totally fine.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
No, No, I don't even know what it was.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Okay again, I I understand what you're saying, but like,
are you really going to do you Everybody says I
won't watch Here you will.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, the anger will burn off. People will watch.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
There's no anger. You're like, here you will. It's la
type show. You don't want to.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Watch it, you don't watchment.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
If you don't want to watch it, you don't watch it. Yeah, right,
You're like, Okay, I watched the second half. I'm gonna
go and take a walk. I'm gonna go drink a beer.
I'm gonna go to the restroom. Whatever. It's not designed
for you, design for your wife, your girlfriend, your children,
and especially a predominantly Latin fan base that that probably
is sitting there going like, hey, we're this is one

(40:47):
of the biggest most supportive fan bases in the NFL,
and what do we get, right, what do we get? Nada?
So yeah, I think it's the college student. I think
it's the high school student. I think it's the the
Latin fan and the Latin viewer and even you know,
Latin females that are like, I'd never watch the Super Bowl,

(41:07):
Well now you might.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Doesn't it feel though, like a second, third, or fourth choice,
Like a soon as they announced that, I thought, oh,
Taylor Swift turned it down. It's kind of like those
when you see those casts of movies and you're like, oh,
Meryl Streep turned it down, So of course Renee Russo
is going to star in that nineties movie for the
fifth time.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Was it pointed out or proven that Taylor Swift turned
it down this year? I've not heard in the last
news cycle, because last year when they announced it, they
announced it week one of the NFL season and it
got completely overshadowed. And so this was like week four
with all of those remember those Taylor Swift Easter eight
things from the New Heights podcast. And I just wonder

(41:49):
if negotiations broke down and they're like, all right, we
can't come to a deal.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Yeah, it's like Taylor's not going to do it. Could
we go back to Adele?

Speaker 9 (41:58):
No?

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Adele said, if she's a second show, she's not going
to do it. We got this less.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
That's that's literally how literally how it works, though, it's
how it works. Did Glorious Stephan ever do the halftime show?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I don't think so. I don't know. It hasn't been
in the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Anybody know Sam did Glorious? Did Glorious Stephan? Let's just
say sorry, yeah, Stephan do the halftimes show?

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Looks like nineteen ninety two and then with nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Five, Rhythm is going to get you. Rhythm is going She.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Appeared several times a year halftime shoot.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yes, but Jay stew like, you're right, that's how it works.
That's kind of how it always works, you know. And
and why would you go get Taylor Swift? Why women
girls love her? Right, and then Evel was like, eh,
not for us. Who is the other one? You said, oh, Adele,

(42:57):
same thing. It's not our target demo. Right. It just
feels weird because the dude and they're like, well, I
don't I don't know any of the songs. Hey, you
know what if you don't know that any of the
bad bunny songs get in line? Needed do I? But
it's like every time you watch every year, when you
watch the Grammys, I don't know any of this music.
Turn it down. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You listen

(43:19):
to Fox Sports Radio, and we are so honored to
be joined by Tom Telesco, former general manager of the
Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us for his weekly
visit here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's go with the
national games and we'll go kind of in reverse. We'll
reverse engineer it. Right. Cowboys Packers again on paper, is

(43:41):
one of those why would this be close? Right? Cowboys
haven't stopped anybody all year? Then offensively where they've been
really good, they didn't have CD LAMB and early on
it looked like Packers were the dominant team. Ends up
being a forty forty tie what's wrong with the Packers defense?

Speaker 8 (44:00):
First, you know, with the game, I was thinking the
same thing, that this could go, you know, blowout pretty
hard on green Bay side. And then it's funny because
I just I just read a book recently about the
nineteen sixty at Harvard Yale season, and it was here
that Yale was a huge favorite in the game and
Harvard came back there like a age fourth quarter comeback,

(44:20):
tied the game, and game ended a tie, and the
headline in the Student Harbord Student newspaper was Harvard BTL
twenty nine to twenty nine. And that's the kind of
way I felt about the game yesterday with Dallas and
green Bay. I mean, the tie for Dallas is actually
I mean, you don't really count world victories, but it
kind of is considering they were pretty big underdog going

(44:40):
into the game. But to me, the biggest thing, like
Dak Proscott continues to show when he's healthy he's one
of the best quarterbacks in the league. And I know
there's always a magnifying glass on him trying to pick
out the flaws, and everybody has their flaws, but you know,
he played out a good defense with Green Bay and
He did it with a banged up offensive line, an
average run game, and then missing CD Lamb, which I

(45:02):
think was it should have been a bigger deal than
it was because with Green Bay you asked, like, what's
the problem with their defense or their their front sevens outstanding.
The one hole that they've had and they have right
now and he saw it going into the year, was
the corner position. You know, are they good enough at
corner to take this defense where it needs to go.
They've got two predominantly nickel corners are playing outside now

(45:23):
with Nate Hobbs and DeShawn Nixon, and those two guys
are excellent Nichols as outside corners. They're still finding their feet.
They're not quite there yet. And they got Javon Bullard
playing nickel, who's, you know, kind of a safety slash corner,
and you know, those guys they had a hard time
against the Cowboys receivers, and that it was without CD Lambs,
So that's a bit of a concern. But the end
of the Cowboys, the Packers are really good. They're going

(45:44):
to be fine in the end. Like every every team
has its weaknesses. But I just thought Dak Prescott was
amazing in the game.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like their faith in
Dak is being rewarded right that forever. You know, Jerry's
trying to tell us Heason League quarterback, and we all roll.
What's what's better about Dak this year than in previous years.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
He's healthy, He's healthy for you this year as opposed
to the last couple. But he's doing a lot of
the same things he's done in prior years. You know,
he's very accurate with the football. He's got good enough
arms strength. It's not a cannon, but it's certainly good enough.
He's accurate, And to me, the biggest thing with Dak,
he's just a tremendous leader and he has the ability
to pull the players along with him and really lead.

(46:27):
And I got a chance to see that. We had
scrimmaged and practice at joint practice with the Cowboys twice,
So being on the practice field and watching how he
operated with the offense and operated with the coaches, I
thought was really really impressive. And you can see that
with that team, like his teammates believe in him offense
and defense. So you know, I just thought he did
a great He's done this before, but obviously the last

(46:49):
couple of years, he had some injury that's kind of
slowed him down a little bit. He could still get
out and move the pocket when he has to, but
I thought he played excellent last night.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Stull Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, now
Lamar's hurt, but previously that what's wrong with Baltimore.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
Well, it's a lot of injuries right now, and you know,
going into this season, you know, I am probably some
others just felt like, you know, to me, they had
the best roster in the NFL. I thought that, you know,
if you want to pick some holes, I thought they
lack some depth on the defensive line. And you know,
maybe that's a bigger hole than I had anticipated, because
that's showing up right now on defense, but they've just

(47:28):
got so many injuries that they're trying to get past.
And then offensively, they just to me, they have to
be more than just Derrick Henry and Veay Flowers. So
the last couple of weeks you've seen Andrews the teddand
get more involved, which they have to do. But I
do think they need to spread the ball around a
little bit more to the receivers. Like last year. Yesterday,
Hopkins had one target, Bateman had two targets. So and

(47:49):
this was in a game where they were down early
and had to throw to get back into the game.
So they have to weather the storm on defense right now.
With the amount of injuries that have I saw, I
just saw it before I came on with you that
Marlon Humphrey has a calf injury. That's never good for
a corner because there's those ten to linger. But I
will say this is, you know, the this is what

(48:10):
consistency at the head coach really matters. And they've had
issues like this early in the season before and usually
John Harbaugh can get a figured out and that's where
they're what they're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Do right now. How Dan Rodgers look to you, he
looked out.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
Standing, and but to me, better than what he looked
is really what Arthur Smith did with the offense. I mean,
they finally they ran the ball much better. And I
do think that offensive line is built to run the ball,
probably better than mass protection. So to me, what I
saw Arthur Smith do is, you know, if we're if
we're going to be leaky and pass protection we get,
we need to get the ball out extremely quick, So

(48:46):
the ball came out fast, five percentage throws and gave
all the receivers run after catch opportunities. And with with
Aaron Rodgers, like there's nobody better with ball placement to
put it on a receiver in a spot we can
guess the ball, run and get some yards after contact,
run some yards aft to catch, and then also making
that those back shoulder throws, there's nobody better that they

(49:07):
can do that, so that can kind of make up
for their lack of pass protection with what they're going
to have to do. And he's so accurate with the
football and the receivers made plays for him.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco,
former general manager Chargers Raiders, joining us on the program.
Liam Cohen gets accused of sign stealing by the San
Francisco forty nine ers, most notably their DEFENSI. According to
Robert Sala, who also just happens to be the former
Jets head coach, what's going on there?

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Yeah, pretty pretty cool little side story from from yesterday.
In the end, it won't mean a whole lot, but
I do agree with what Shanahan said, Like, you know,
if you're doing it legally. Why he's so sensitive about
the subject. But this is why I don't understand, is,
you know, defensive coordinators have had coach of player radio
communication in usually the linebacker in his helmet since two

(49:58):
thousand and eight, so you know, there's no signals that
are needed. You you radio in your call to your linebacker,
and most NFL teams huddle. It's a huddle league anyways,
and the linebacker then gives the call to the rest
of the defense. So didn't quite understand why would even
come up in the press conference at San Francisco. They
must have been worried about a little bit. But my question,
would you know why even signaling at all? Because you

(50:20):
don't have to. And by the way, that two thousand
and eight, when this came in, it's there is some
significant significance of that because Spikey was in two thousand
and seven. Now, the Patriots did illegally with video and
CAPE signals and even broke it down in game. But
you know, to do it the old fashioned way, which
is basically your eyes. For some times it's binoculars and

(50:41):
a pen and paper. That's totally legal. And I was
a former pro scout and that was one of my
jobs on the road when I was advancing team was
with to get their signals and do it, you know,
the legal way obviously, and you know that for me,
this is way before they had the coach a player
defensive radio system because once that came in, the signals
basically went away. But the funny part is the defensive

(51:01):
coordinators they're kind of are notorious, and certainly we're notorious
for never changing their signals, like not using multiple signal
signal callers and the sidelines you know, you know who's
live or don't know who's live, for not blocking their signals,
and this is you know, way back when, but a
lot of guys just didn't do a very good job
of kind of blocking them. It's not hard, but you know,

(51:22):
we used to have a book on a lot of
certain defensive coordinators when I was with the Colts. So
but on both sides of this is probably just more
talk than anything else. They shouldn't affect the game much.
But I just thought it was interesting to watch yesterday.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay, so is it your opinion, because the Patriots defense was, Hey,
we film all this stuff all the time, anyway, why
can't we film the signals being sent in corresponding with
with with the plays being played.

Speaker 8 (51:46):
You do you that's just go ahead?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
No, no, go go ahead, that's just what no.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
I just I say. That's That's just been been the
rule for as own as I've been in the league,
that you can. Everybody will try and steal signals what
they can, but but you just couldn't use any any
electronic surveillance or videotaping of signals. That's just that's just
part of the rules of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Okay, But should they but should they be able to.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
I don't think so. I mean to me that that
takes it to a second level, you know, with whatever
Michigan did, I mean to have have cameras on the
sideline shooting the other defensive coordinator, to have a camera
up in the press box shooting the other defensive coordinator,
and then trying to break it down in game. To me,
that's just way too much. Look, if you can do
it with your eyes, with binoculars, with pen and paper,

(52:35):
that's that's fine. But in the end it doesn't really
matter anymore. Because offense and defense both have player to
coach or coach. The player communications system so there's really
no need for a whole lot of signaling, except if
you're in a two minutes drill that sometimes because you're
not huddling, you have to signal to your dbs. But
all you got to do is change your signals. I
mean these you know there's you've got to be smart

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enough to do that, and then you don't have a problem.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Uh the Chargers kind of quick here, Chargers, you know,
now Joe Alt gets hurt and uh, justin Herbert couldn't
get couldn't get comfortable all day. How hard is that
to fix on the fly When all of a sudden,
now you're offensive line, your your two tackles ranger, it's.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
Gonna be difficult. And Minnesota is going through the same thing.
I mean, sometimes you can weather an injury or two,
but when you're when you hit like three injuries on
the offensive line, it's just hard to have that much step,
which the Chargers don't have right now to catch up. Now.
Luckily with Joe Walt, you know, hopefully that's gone a
long term injury. Makai becked in the Guard he'll be
back at some point soon. Looks like only you know,

(53:39):
the only season endors we shaan slater, but they're gonna
have to try and piece together and the time being,
I thought a big takeaway yesterday was the rookie o'marrion Hampton.
He's a stud. I mean, he's never done at first contact.
He just punishes tacklers, but then he's got some breakaway
speed if the space is there. So we're probably gonna
see a lot more of him moving forward because he can.

(53:59):
You know, if you keep pounding with him, that can
slow down to rush a little bit. Throw a couple
of screens slow some people down, but you know, flip
side that is. You know, the Giants have a really
really impressive front seven, especially a front four, and they
controlled the game, which they should have against what was
left on the Chargers offensive line.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Hey, the Packers got called they were at like the
one inch line or six inch line and they got
called for a ball adjustment where they where the center
just kind of adjusted and moved the ball slightly forward.
Have you ever seen that called there?

Speaker 8 (54:32):
Yeah, I've seen a called usually, uh, you know on
a fourth and one when you're either going you know,
quarterbacks make or touch push, you see the centers kind
of move the ball forward. You see long stampers do
it sometimes. My sense is they probably gave him a
warning before that. He may have done it in the
game earlier. I'm not sure it's obviously it's not called
very often. You don't see it, but look if it's

(54:55):
if it's fourth down and you know in a foot
and you've stretched it out six more in that gifts
at center. Because the way he would line up, he'd
line up closer to the ball and then kind of
stretch it out. There's definitely an advantage that's there. So
I thought that was a good call by the officials.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
He's Tom Telesco. He joined us every week here on
the Doug Gottlip Show. Tom, great stuff, awesome insight, really
appreciates being our guest.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
Awesome thanks Doug.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
All Right, Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.