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August 27, 2018 125 mins

Doug talks about Odell Beckham Jr's new deal and discusses how the Giants are making a mistake. Doug also defends Tom Brady for hanging up the phone on a local radio host. Super Bowl champion head coach Brian Billick joins the show with his thoughts on Odell and the rest of the NFL for this season.

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little bit of the little bit of hoops with Mono
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but he won best all around. And then we have
some college football with some freshman true freshman be announced
the starting quarterbacks at some historic universities, and we as
some NFL to talk about. Let's start with the nash
Football League. Andrew luck looked better. We told you that
these were baby steps and he was going to get better.

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There are other players that didn't play different types of
dress rehearsals. We gotta get to Tom Brady, who hung
up on some folks in Boston, and I completely understand why,
even though uh how it will be relayed in the
media was Tom Brady was defensive over some questions asked
about Alex Gurero. But the breaking story of the moment

(02:30):
is Odell Beckham Jr. Signs the biggest contract in the
history of the wide receiver position. This has become par
for the course for the Giants. The Giants have gone
all in. I remember it's not just O b J's contract.
They also overpaid for Nate Soldier, they overpaid for Olivier Vernon,
and now they're gonna overpay for Odell Beckham Jr. This

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to me isn't isn't about oh b J and his talent.
I don't think anyone would dispute his talent. No one.
Odell Beckham Jr. Through three and a half four years
in the National Football League has been incredibly productive. Three
seasons of over a thousand yards receiving and oh yeah,

(03:12):
by the way, he only played twelve games in his
rookie year. He also catches touchdown passes. He is the
best combination in the National Football League, the best combination
of speed, athletic ability and route running. So he's rightfully,
and he's only twenty five years old. He's rightfully. You

(03:33):
gotta like, look, he's the best combination of athletic ability,
speeding route running in the NFL. Like, what's the big deal? Well,
four seasons he did miss four games out of the
shoot and he missed you know, fourteen uh fourteen last year.
Not his own fault, but availability is a big issue
in the Nashvilleball League, maybe more importantly. More importantly, it's

(03:56):
the off the field drama, the need for attention and
the need to surround yourself with people like whoever the
girl was in the video and whatever the substance was
in that video. Everyone I know says, oh, b J
is a good dude, loves football. He shed some of
those clingers honors that he's had around him since he

(04:18):
arrived in New York. All I can tell you is
this from the high risk high reward just to loading
up with three players at the time paid at the
tops of their position, to the high risk high reward
of an Odell Beckham Jr. Who you tell me somebody
who's a better dude since they got money? Either, I

(04:42):
don't know anyone who's like, man, you know what, he
wasn't a really good dude, but he got money and
now he's the best. And then you're at the wide
receiver position, which is important and is impactful, but it's
not the most important. They had a chance to get
the quarterback of the future. They had a chance to
get young and have an under contract for four or

(05:05):
five years with Sam Donald, and they didn't do it.
They went all in and all in now and nobody
knows how much Eli Manning has left in the tank
and there is no plan B. And oh yeah, by
the way, they're highly leveraged. So here's what here, here's
what the giants have done. The giants went out and
bought a Maserati. You guys, ever heard of Maserati? But

(05:27):
the engine of a Maserati turns me on? It does,
It does completely and totally. I'm not gonna lie to you,
I hear. I'm like, man, I don't know who the
dude or chick is, but I want to ride with them.
But you ever have a Maserati breakdown? Oh my gosh,

(05:48):
talk to somebody who owns one. Oil changes crazy expensive
gas must be premium. Don't get me started on the insurance,
the old in the NFL. You can't make the tub
in the club, I mean your cars in the shop
when you buy a mos right, Men, they are sweet.
Their logo is like that of the devil. Like man.

(06:11):
I love that. I like the look, I like the feel.
I like the tires are like the rims, like the engine.
I like it all. How much is it? Oh? I
gotta pay retail for that? So the Giants have paid
retail for left tackle important, Olivier Verton important, and wide
receiver important. But the most important part of that franchise

(06:35):
is thirty seven years old and hadn't played well in
a couple of years. So that's what they've done. I
wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't do with Odell Beckham Jr.
Because what was the rush? It was three months ago,
four months ago when the owner, John Marrow is like, look,
we need to consider trading this guy. We need to

(06:57):
open up to all possible options. Why because he didn't
get it. So all of a sudden he gets it.
I was like, oh, now I get it. Fellas three
months of the office season, one month of the preseason,
and he gets it. He's completely healed. I haven't seen
a healing that fast since the faith either came through
the South. You are saved, you are healed. So it

(07:24):
doesn't mean I don't think he's talented. I do. It
doesn't mean I don't understand that you want him happy,
you want him to feel like he's But here's a
dude who's been opening for a contract and this is
not a quarterback level contract, but it's a lot of money.
But to have him when he has not played a

(07:45):
game since that video came out, when he has struggled
with health and with adversity with the team in the past,
and he's not the most important position on the field.
It is a high risk, high reward proposition what the
New York Giants have done. And so to anybody says like, well,

(08:06):
this is not what the Giants usually do, Yes, it is.
It's not what the Giants used to do. Now, it's
what the Giants do. Now, that's what the Giants do.
So that welcome in this the Doug Outlip Show, Fox
Sports Radio. Lots of stuff happening, man, is there a
lot of stuff. I mean, metric Ton Football getting ready

(08:27):
to get underway. Remember this Odell Beckham Jr. Deal is
five years, million, sixty five million in guaranteed, highest guaranteed
for receiver averages twenty million over the first three years.
Antonio Brown seventeen million, average, Mike average fifty five million,
and guarantee we're top benchmarks of the wide receiver position.

(08:47):
So I mean ten million more than Mike Evans and
seven million more per year for the first three years
that Antonio Brown. That blows them out of the water.
Not making quarterback money, but pretty darn't close. Matt Ryan
kirk Cousins all right, eight ninety four and a half
and eighty four and uh he he's a ninety million

(09:10):
average for the contract. It's just below von Miller. By
the way, how have the how the Denver Bronco has
been since Von Miller signed a new contract? Anybody? Why?
Is that? Because their quarterback play has been atrocious? Atrocious?
Al Right? Brian Billick is a Super Bowl champion head coach.

(09:32):
He's also an NFL network analyst. I'll ask him if
he would pay that type of money to one of
the elite wide receivers in the league. Well also asked
him about that doesn't matter that there appears to be
no plan for life after ELI in New York, that
Aaron Donald appears very very close to signing a deal
if he hasn't already signed one with the l A
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Progressive dot com or called on Progressive. Kenny tweets and says,
God leave show. That's the Twitter handle. Why did you
compare Vaughan with our quarterback issues? Von Our defense was
near the top of all defenses last few years. He
deserves his did your dollars? Sorry? That that's my voice
of angry Twitter, Kenny. It all comes from the same pool, Kenny,

(11:51):
It's all the same pool. You're like, Vaughan deserves and
nobody's saying Odell Beckham Junior doesn't deserves money, or um
or Olivier Vernon doesn't deserve his money, or Nate Soldier
doesn't deserve his money. But what happens is when there's
a it's like a pie. Ramo's favorite kind of pie,

(12:11):
go cherry cherry pie. Very nice, she's my cherry. Ton
Tonny Kitan right, don't ask Chuck family about Tonny Kitaan.
Don't ask Chuck Familey about Tonny anyway. When you have
a pie, right, it's like I want a big piece
and I want a big piece and I want a
big piece. All right, cool, Well, if if your three

(12:36):
kids get three gigantic pieces was left of Pope, there's
one pie, sway works. Sway works, and look if you
pay for it, now, that's cool. Like there's ways in
which you can front load things, uh with signing, but
eventually it's gonna hurt you against the cap, like there's

(12:57):
a whole math to it, which if this whole idea,
always just put it in. It's just a signing in
roster bonus. It doesn't hurt your salary cap. Like that's
actually not true. It will hurt your salary cap eventually.
So this idea that you just we just hey, our
quarterback issues are not related to von Miller, Okay, it's

(13:18):
all related. It's one team. The only thing that matters
is the Dubs or the Elves. And we would all
agree that the Broncos have made bad decision after bad
decision at the quarterback position, correct, Like, there's no real
arguing then, And I guess some of this I guess
is it's gotta be you know, John Elway going like, look,
when I won my last Supero, my first super Bowl,
it was actually the lowest quarterback rating in the history

(13:38):
of the Super Bowl for a winning quarterback. And when
Peyton Manning won his Super Bowl, he couldn't throw the football.
So I guess if our defense is good enough, it
doesn't matter. Maybe that's this thinking, but the truth is
that if you spend a ton of money, the most
money on one position, it's gonna hurt you somewhere else.
It's gonna hurt you over all the team. Look at
the Seahawks, Well, he deserves to get paid, and he

(14:01):
deserves to get paid, and he deserves to get paid,
and you know what, they have not paid their offensive line.
Wasn't that a problem for the Denver Broncos is not
just a quarterback play. It's in fact their offensive line
not good, not good? So, yeah, can you could you
draft better? If you're John one l A, of course

(14:24):
you could draft better off your job, or make better
free agency selections, all of these things. But don't kid yourself.
When you have to overpay von Miller at one position,
it's going to hurt you elsewhere. That's just the way it's.
One pie. If one dude takes a huge slice of
pie and you're like, man, he's been you know, he's

(14:44):
been working out, he has, he's been fasting. He deserves
that piece of pie. He eats that. That's cool. That
means just less pie for everybody else. That's the way
it works. No one knows that better than Brian Billick.
His team wants to bowl in Baltimore, and then they
were in cap hell and they had to scrap it
and start all over. And I'm I'm wondering his perspective

(15:07):
on these contracts, specifically Odell Beckham Junior, who I don't
think anyone would question whether or not he's the best
young wide receiver league. He's right there or in the conversation,
any conversation. But there's the he it was only a
couple months ago he was in the hotel room with
some substance on the table, snapchatting with a girl. And
he has been hurt and like damn, the giants Olivier Vernon,

(15:30):
Nate Solder and Alodell Beckham Junior, top paid guys at
the time of their position, overpaying guys their position. Let's
welcome in Brian Billick. He is a Super Bowl champion
head coach and you can see him on the NFL Network. Coach,
I just your immediate reaction when you saw the numbers
for O. B J. Well, you know, I'm long past
being shocked by the numbers, um because every year, every player,

(15:52):
every contract, um, it just keeps going higher and higher
and higher at the level that it's it's unimaginable, uh,
that we could be And when you look at the
NBA and Major League Baseball and look at the numbers
of guaranteed contract all of it being guaranteed, you know, yeah,
it's it's it's it's hard to be shocked anymore. But

(16:15):
what you're referring to is right. I mean, that's one
thing the players do have to understand. The pie is
only so big. And that's the unique thing about the
NFL CAT structure, and that every do you give one
player has got to come off some other player. And
and so that the Giants plan appears to be, hey,
let's solidify's change your offensive line, solidify that especially the

(16:36):
left side um, you know, defensively, obviously they loaded up
on some big name players and they got Odell Beckham,
ju they got sick one Barker. Those guys in our
contract next five years. What are your thoughts on Eli
Manning because like they passed on Sam Donald, who they
could have had under contract for five years and he
would have been the heir apparent. Do you like this
plan or would you have liked the Donald plan instead

(16:58):
of instead of having Barkley. Well, there are two different approaches. Obviously,
they're they're looking at a window where they feel like
they can make a run at this thing by giving
you know, O b J that kind of contract using
Barkley as their first pick, which I love by the way,
re re shuffling that offensive wine. Certainly, I'm not prepared
to say Eli Manning is passed his day and can't

(17:22):
contribute and be a quarterback that can deliver a championship
with the right set of assets around him. Isn't getting
close to us? Possibly, but no, I can't. I can't
argue with your approach they're taking because it is consistent
to have done those other things and to go get
Donald maybe would have not made sense. That's the voice
of Brian Billick from the NFL Network's joining us in

(17:44):
the Doug out Li Show on Fox Sports Radio. Is
there any team that has surprised you with how good
they've looked, especially with their ones early on the preseason here? Well,
I'm you know, I'm like I said, I'm very rarely
shocked at the numbers that come by way of contracts.
I've also been around enough to know to not draw

(18:06):
any conclusions whatsoever from from the preseason. It's just, uh,
that's a mistake. Um. Yeah, I do the Ravens games, uh,
And I think they're frontline players who haven't played a lot. Uh.
And and because they've they've had the extra game they've
played or scrimmage. Had two scrimmages with both the Rams

(18:27):
and the uh Indianapolis Colt. They've not played their starters
a lot when they have, Um, with the addition of
Michael Crabtree. Uh, they've got Willie Snead. I think these
young tight ends they've got if they stay healthy. And
Joe Flacco has never looked better. So yeah, I mean,
but that is a team obviously I'm focused on because
I've seen their preseason games. But to draw conclusions from

(18:50):
any preseason whether team's four oh or OH and four
usually proves to be UM not a good idea. UM.
You mentioned the Ravens um having watched Lamar Jackson the
first three weeks, I didn't feel like he was he's
he's just more prospect than quarterback. I know he played
better in this last preseason game. But what are your

(19:12):
thoughts on the different I mean, there's such different quarterbacks
and they're so you know, flack Will actually looks really
really good. Which your thoughts on the quarterback their quarterback situation. Well,
Lamar Jackson is certainly an interesting prospect right now. In
my opinion, he's just that he's a long way from
being on track to be a legitimate pocket quarterback that
he's going to have to evolve to. It doesn't mean

(19:33):
he can't, and he has progressed. He made a couple
throws uh in the Miami game, subtle throws, little throws
that that we're encouraging. But in visiting with the Ravens
and seeing how they're approaching it, I don't think they
believe he is ready to go right now, nor do
they need for him to do a big question for
them is Do they keep three quarterbacks with r G

(19:53):
three as the backup or are they comfortable enough with
Lamar Jackson to just go with two. What do you
think they should do? Well? Yeah, the luxury of keeping
three is great, but that costs you a good player.
They're very deep in the defensive line, they're deep in
the secondary. They need some depth that the offensive line position. Um,
you know, so if they keep three quarterbacks, it comes

(20:15):
at a cost. I don't think Lamar Jackson is ready
to step in and this is a good enough team
to play well and make the playoffs even if a
Joe Flacco gets hurt. There that good defensively, I think
um that an r G three could probably get them there.
I'm not sure Lamar Jackson could. So having said that,
my guess is that they're going to keep three. That's

(20:37):
the voice of Brian Bella, who's joining us here on
the Doug otlif Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're a
week away from game week. Obviously we got game week
in college football. It's getting down to cut time. Uh.
The the Jacksonville Jaguars lost probably their best wide receiver,
and of course this reopens calls to hey, maybe Dez Bryant.
Dez is openly opined to be on a He wants

(20:57):
to be on a winning team. Like I know a
couple of winning teams who he's reached out for and
to this point they're they're not interested. There's some talk
with the Patriots or Eric Decker announcing his retirement and
they had some kinds of of wide receivers. Uh, what's
the what's the best situation do you think legitimately to
bring in a Dez Bryant, Well, I think he needs
a He needs to go someplace where there's a very

(21:20):
strong presence of quarterback that can can deal with Dez Bryant. Um.
I you know, I don't know that Blake Bortles is
that guy in Jacksonville. Certainly they are a good team.
There are winning team. Um. And it's not like he
has to go in and be their soul provider in
terms of production. Uh, because they're gonna be able to

(21:41):
run the ball, they're gonna play good defense. But to
put him with a quarterback like Blake Mortals that is
still developing, still trying to establish himself, that that could
be difficult. This is Doug Gotlie Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. What about Bortles and his struggles. He got
a Teddy Bridge or who's out there with the with

(22:01):
the jet You mentioned r G three. Last year he
had his best year as a pro by far. But
as was pointed out, even like, look the guy wins
the Super Bowl Championship Doug Peterson, and he points out
that the Jags didn't go for it on you know
when they got the ball fifty nine seconds to go
a f C champions game. That as much as they
did a really good job of stabilizing the quarterbacks, and

(22:22):
there's there's a limit there with Blake Bortles. What are
your thoughts on the Jaguars quarterback situation. Well, Bortles, you'd
like to see him continue to develop and be that guy.
I mean, he can be very serviceaful for what they're doing.
Is he that guy that you know you gotta throw
throw the ball times to win in a game. I
don't think he's that guy. Uh. He needs to become

(22:45):
that guy. Uh. And and certainly he's with the right
team to give him that opportunity to go forward. Um.
I like Blake Bortles coming out, I've not seen the
growth that you'd like to see all but with a
good season last year. Uh, this will be an interesting
year knowing you're with a good team, knowing, okay, this
is where I can take shots. Nay at times, No,

(23:05):
I don't have to because we're good enough team. Uh.
To see him make those kind of decisions, that's what
I want to see. How of Blake Bortles, but Brian
Billi joining us in the Doug Gotlip show. Of course,
super Bowl champion head coach, and you know, one of
the things you're able to do. You're winning a Minnesota's
offenseive coordinator and then you immediately were winning in Baltimore,
so you you didn't have to really change completely, want

(23:27):
to change kind of the culture from massive losing culture
in Baltimore to competing for a super Bowl in the
a f C. You look and you're like, look, Jacksonville's
got talent. Obviously New England, I'd say, obviously Pittsburgh out west.
There's a lot of talk about the l A Chargers,
but this is a franchise that has gotten off to
poor start after poor start after poor start. How hard
is that mentality to change? It is if you don't

(23:50):
have a group of players. I always when I look
at a situation like that, it's like, okay, where where
are they draw on their strength to say, we're okay,
we can get out of this. You know, we don't
have to panic now. The good thing about the Charges,
like you're talking about, they have been down early uh
and and lost some games and been able to fight
their way back into it. So that's a reference frame
that's good for them. Compared to you look at the

(24:12):
team like Cleveland Brown. That's the difficulty when adversity hits Cleveland.
Where do they lean on? Who do they look to
amongst themselves to say, no, world, okay, we can get
out of this. When you're one in thirty one that
that's tough. So you've got to have it now obviously,
like the Charges, and you've got the guy um like
Philip Rivers, and you typically are gonna look to the

(24:32):
quarterback to a degree or other key players, veteran players
on your team to have that strength. Hey, don't panic.
We've been here before. We know what we're doing um.
And that's that's going to be the challenge for those
teams the Empty West. It's certainly not the best division
in football, but it's certainly gonna be the most interesting.
I think this year simply because of the questions they

(24:53):
have the quarterback changes in Denver, obviously, what's going on
with Kansas City, and what happens with now the re
immerse gans of of Derek Carr and John Gruden being
back in Oakland. Let me ask you really quickly about
Kansas City. I mean it it appears to be fun, right,
Like he can really throw the football. I mean, he
got incredible arm talent, and they got guys to hand
it to, guys to throw it to. They got all
the weaponry they need, but the defense is not exactly stout.

(25:17):
And you know, with all that reward of the deep
throws and all that armed talent comes a lot more
risk than all the regular season wins they had with
with Alex Smith. It feels a little big twelves e right.
It feels like, you know, there'll there'll be some knights
when they when they put fifty on the board, and
there'll be some knights when there's a lot of picks

(25:37):
and they're fighting an uphill battle. What do you think
of how Kansas City ultimately plays out. Yeah, that's gonna
be interesting because they're obviously making the move to say Okay,
we need more than what we've had, and what we've
had has been pretty good. I'm you know, here and
live in the mid Atlantic area, and they're all excited
about Alex Smith here in Washington. You know. So one
man's trash is another man's treasure. We'll see in Kansas

(26:00):
City and the approach they're gonna take. Uh. Yeah, just
like I said earlier about Blake Bortles, Uh, it's gonna
be a matter of whether Mahomes can step up and
can he beat that forty and forty five throw guy
and in throwing at forty times, Yeah, he could have
three touchdowns, but as the alfas three interceptions, you know,
it's it's one thing to be that gun slinger and

(26:20):
throw it up and have no fear, but but you
can't have the turnovers to go with a particularly in
your defense. It looks to be maybe not quite what
it has been in the past. So that's that's gonna
be the question on him. Yeah, we know he can
throw it around, He's gonna make spectacular plays, but can
can he do that in a two to one ratio,
which is the minimum you're looking for out of a
top end quarterback. Two touchdowns for every interception. Great stuff,

(26:44):
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to football season. What he got it is good afternoon, Doug.
We started in the NBA where today? Future Basketball Hall

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of Famer Montagen Nobly announced his retirement after sixteen seasons
with the Spurs. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said at a statement,
Monty was a pioneer who helped globalize the NBA. He
is one of Basketball's greatest ambassadors NFL. The New York
Giants have agreed to an extension with receiver Odell Beckham,
wortha reported nine million dollars over five years, with sixty

(28:54):
five million guaranteed. Here was the actual Giants locker room
reaction of the news of Beckham's contract extension, courtesy of
Sterling Shepherd's Instagram. Listen elsewhere. Jacksonville Jaguars receiver Mark Heasley

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out for the season after suffering a knee injury and
Saturday's preseason game against the Falcons. New England Patriots quarterback
Tom Brady does not flinch when confronted by a three
hundred fifty pound defensive lineman intent on crushing his bones. However,
when confronted by a one hundred thirty pounds sports talk
radio dweeb, he flees in fear. Today during a paid

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appearance on Boston radio station w e I, Brady cut
the interview short after being asked a series of questions
about his controversial training guru Alex Guerrero. I'm just trying
to figure out how the reports this weekend and he's
traveling with the team. Was he on the sideline on Friday? Yeah, alright, guys,
have a great day. I'll talk to you later. Real

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headline there might actually be. Tom Brady still uses a
landline anyway. Finally, in tennis US Open, number one seed
Simona Hallep was upset today in the first round by
Kayak Canneppy. Doug Kaya Caneppy is the new umbc She
got you, Simona Hallep got u M B seed up
out of here the Maryland Baltimore County of Tennis. You're right, yeah,

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Now Simona help has actually won She won one um
she won the French Open earlier this year, so unlike
Virginia that ain't won nothing, she has won something. Just
have to see if Canneppy can go on to become
the loyal of Chicago of tennis. Will be tracking that nice. Uh.
Sean mcveie, of course, the youngest head coach in the league,

(30:52):
said this the rent. But I We'll get to the
Brady thing top of next hour, and I'm actually gonna
offend Tom Brady against was a hundred fifty pound rady
O Dweeves first of all, Lowe Cron, there's no chance
those Boston Smitty's are a hundred and fifty pounds all
that zero, all that pressure room food at Fenway Park
and t D Garden. You're right at Fenway pack and
have it. Yeah, there's lots like great food up. Yeah.

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They go to the they go to the North Side.
You go to the north you go to the North End.
You have some Italian food. Then you have some pastries.
After you see the Socks or after you see the Celtics.
But if you see Tom Brady, you go to the
North End, you have some great Italian That's what you do.
I love Boston, by the way, i'm'm legitimate little like Boston. Um,

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one of the more underrated cities, like I feel like
d C. Obviously the most underrated city I think in
the country San Francisco right there. Just San Francis is
so expensive, it's it's stupid. Um. But Boston is in
the in the of the big cities, remarkably underrated in
quality of food, um, historical significance. Obviously, the weather can

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be awful, awful one she gets November, like November to
April or even May not good. But cool city. We'll
get to that top of the hour. The Rams will
head into the regular season with most of their starters
having played zero snaps in the preseason. This is this
is the new NFL From a thirty year old thirty
something's perspective. Quarterback Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, Brandon Cooks, Andrew Whitworth,

(32:24):
John Sullivan among many players who haven't even stepped on
the field in the preseason. Sean McVeigh said, there's a
simple reason his priorities keeping starters healthy. It's simply not
worth the risk to have them play in the preseason.
It's an imperfect deal, but this decision that we felt
like we wanted to make. Look I have UM, I

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have told you for you guys for years that at
the end of the season, if you're set in the playoffs,
don't play your players. Don't play your players now. Um,
there are sir, instances where you can get the matchup
that you want. You can get a home field if
you're a team that you know it's not a dome team,

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to which home field is where you are a dome team.
It's more important to completely understand that. But for the
most part, like you're set, this whole idea of going
for some regular season record. The same idea is true
in basketball. Like the mistake the Warriors made everybody points
to with the Warriors when seventy three games they went
out and Kevin Durant, the problem was they were going
for it. They went for it and they had they

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didn't have the gas in the tank. Injuries become a
problem just this year. Attrition of travel and of playing
every night in eighty two games is a is a problem.
The Rams are going the opposite. They're just sitting dudes.
They don't care we are. We're not even playing for September.

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We're playing for January and February. Here's the problem with it.
They play against the Raiders start of the year on
the road, and they get the Cardinals and then the
battle for l A with the Chargers. To not play
your best offensive linemen at all in the preseason kind
of risky with two of your first three of being

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the games. And look the Cardinals defensive line look nasty
the other night last night right against the Cowboys. Granted
the Cowboys didn't play all of their starters, but the
the issue you run into is you do want to
have game reps, you do want to be sharp, but
you run the risk of it with injury, run the

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risk of it with injury. Ram's got a weird schedule.
And have you guys seen this? Ramos, you're a huge
Rams fan. Have you seen how strange their schedule is.
I know it's tough. I do know that. Well, they play,
they play the Raiders on the road, then three in
a row at home, and oh yeah, by the way,
the third one is and this is one of those
if you want to bet it, now, knock yourself out.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna pick a game now. Wow, I'm
picking a game now that I'm telling you the winner regardless,
I I know the outcome of the game. Ready for it,
Let's do it. Vikings are gonna beat the Rams in
l A. Okay, it's all I think. It's Fox's first
Thursday night game? Is that right? Is that the first

(35:12):
week Fox has Thursday night football? It's in l A.
It's Rams. It's the Vikings to playoff teams from last year.
Here's here's why. The week before on Sunday, the Rams
play the Chargers at home at one oh five. Okay,
one oh five local, that's four oh five on the
East coast. Why does that matter? Obviously, play afternoon games
when you're in l A. Chargers game is gonna be

(35:34):
a war. It's gonna be played at a ridiculously high level,
Joey boast of Melvin Ingram in addition to all the
past weaponry they have, like do that. Those are two
of the most talented teams in football going at it
on on Sunday afternoon. And then the Rams gotta turn
around and play the Vikings. The Rams gotta turn around

(35:55):
and play the Vikings. You kid me, and the Vikings
are right there in the conversation of most talent teams football.
And oh yeah, did you see who the Vikings play
the week before they play the Bills weren't good at home.
Vikings are gonna beat the Rams make smart picks based
upon actual research on football. I don't listen. I'm not

(36:18):
telling you tout services are bad or or Vegas betting
guys are bad. They're not. They have their own pattern
and system of doing things. I'm gonna tell you right now.
Ask people in football who are the most talented teams,
and all of them that would put the Vikings, the
Chargers the Rams in the conversation of the eight most
talent teams in football. The Rams play two in a row,
both at home, but with only three days in between

(36:40):
and the turnaround playing against the Vikings team, that's that's
thirsty for blood, and that's more talented than they were
last year in their offensive backfield, at quarterback and and
at running back. Giving the Vikings Week four first Fox
Thursday Night game. Monto Genobil is retiring after six teen
seasons with the Spurs. Big deal, a little deal, or

(37:02):
no deal, I'll tell you next. Be sure to catch
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(37:33):
MM hmmm. I hope you had a great weekend. I
hope you did all the things you're supposed to do
for the wife or for the girlfriend or the girlfriend
and the wife. You know why, because it's game week, Honey.
I I can't I have a thing. Let me have
a thing. I gotta I got a thing. Saturday night,

(37:54):
Notre Dame, Michigan. I got a thing I got, I
got a series of things, all right, totally in let's
get the game type. This is game time on the
Doug Gottlieb Show, they go warms the little cold sip
of Arnold Palmer. All right, as a going cron I'm ready.

(38:19):
Let's go. All right, Doug, let's find out what we
got on this busy Monday. Big deal, little deal, no deal.
That's a big deal. Started off in the NBA. Announced
just a short time ago on his social media MANA
Genoboli is retiring after sixteen seasons in the NBA, all
with the San Antonio Spurs, four of them ending in

(38:40):
World Championships. Monty generally retiring big deal, little deal or
no deal. Well, first of all, it's a big deal.
Second of all, he won a World championship and a
gold medal, real World Championship, real gold medal with with
the Argentine's and anyone for NBA Championships, anyone to Europe
in championships while playing overseas guys, the ultimate winner, um,

(39:04):
incredible all around players. That's a big deal, especially with
the Spurs having a completely turn over their roster from there.
The the dynasty is done, even if the Spurs should
be a better team this year based upon their talent,
and he put up with Popovich for sixteen seasons as well.
That deserves a medal in its own right. About onto
the NFL, where Cleveland Browns head coach Hugh Jackson told

(39:28):
reporters that receiver Josh Gordon, who recently rejoined the team
and was recently activated over the weekend, will play in
Week one of the regular season, but will not be
in the starting lineup. Is that a big deal, a
little deal or no deal? Well? I thought Antonio Callaway
was punished by playing every every down, every snap of

(39:50):
the of the first preseason game, Like why not punished
Josh Gordon the same. Um, I do think it's a
big deal that that Josh Gordon is back in the
National Football League. We just haven't seen him a long time,
you know. I mean, has anybody tracked the last time
Josh Gordon actually played a football game? Like it was
a long long time ago, two thousand and seventeen. He

(40:11):
played before that last year he played, and before that
it was two thousand fourteen. So um, look, I think
it's a big deal. I think they do have a
talented wide receiving Corps. He's six three two five pounds,
and you go back to fourteen, he was a dominant
young town. Is a big deal. Over the weekend, America's
college football insider Brett McMurphy Now Stadium told Jason McIntyre

(40:34):
the following on The Big Lead here on Fox Sports Radio.
I think this would be Urban's last year at Ohio State.
I just think you see him at the press conference
and now he was so worn down and beat down.
He was asked specifically twice you felt like you deserved
the suspension, and he basically mumbled, I trust the leadership.
But like you just mentioned, no, he's angry. He doesn't

(40:55):
believe he should have been suspended. He didn't believe he
did anything wrong, and now he knows the press event
doesn't have his full support. Is McMurphy's prophecy a big deal,
a little deal, or no deal. I think it's a
huge deal. It's also a deal I've heard as well.
Like look, I haven't reported as such. I'm not reporting.

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I've just told you that Ohio State people told me
that either the president goes or Erwin Meyer goes at
the end of the season. Here's the problem. Coaches feel
worn down now than they get energized at their team
competes for a national championship and they change their mind.
This is game time. On the Duck Godli Show, the

(41:39):
Patriots come from the Patriots mantras do your job right
and then and the Saints have actually stolen that they do.
They have a big sciences do your job. I actually
think that that Tom Brady hung up on some guys
he's paid to do a radio spot with in Boston
and I and I honestly think, I honestly think that

(42:05):
those guys did their job. And then I'll explain while
Tom Brady made the right decision. That's up coming next
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(42:31):
Fox Sports Radio Dune Doon Doom Doone Noon Done Done,
Don Dune Doon Mano Genobiley calls it quits. I find
it hard to think there's a player I enjoyed watching
more brought it really brought the Euro step to the NBA. Yes,

(42:52):
there was some flamboyant flopping that did. He helped bring
us Her into the NBA, but also winning to San Antonio,
and I know they won one title four he out there,
but four NBA titles, two year Old League titles, and
a gold medal with Argentina. Right, when you say like
Olympic gold bed, it's like, okay, yeah, I get it.

(43:12):
Olympic gold medalists Argentina, Like okay, go go back and
look historically, you know, go back and look historically. They're
amazing what they've done. Uh, really really remarkable what they

(43:33):
were able to do in winning a gold medal at
the Olympics. I mean that's an a silver medal, which
I think, um, I think they lost to Yugoslavia in overtime, right,
and that Yugoslavian team was stacked, and that was on
American style. And they were the first they were the

(43:56):
first um international team to beat the United States national
team with a full squad of NBA players. So what
had been a great program in South America but had
never been really competitive internationally to win a gold medal,

(44:17):
he put Argentinean basketball on the map. That's what happened,
UM anyway, so congrats to monitor nobody calling in a career.
Let's get to the Tom Brady situation. So Tom Brady
and this happens in UM. This happens in a lot

(44:39):
of major markets for years. For years, he's been asked
to uh to come on other shows and he can't
because he gets paid to come on Kirk and Callaghan,
which is a big local show. And so um, Kirk
and Callahan I think is the operated morning show in Boston.

(45:02):
Don't hold me to that because it's varied. W b
n Z started beating w e I. These are local
radio wars, but whatever. Basically what happened was this Alex
Guerrero has apparently worked his way back into some sort
of good graces or that's how it's being reported that

(45:22):
Alex Guerrero is now on the sideline with the team
and they wanted to ask some questions. Now, let me
first have Kirt and Callahan's back. Anytime we have a
guest and there is a major story, we tell them,
like listen, we have to ask at least one question
about this story. I have to, um help Ryan, can

(45:47):
you help me out here? When was the who was
the last guest. I'm trying to think that we turned down.
I think I think it was DeAndre eight and we
turned down the file four. That's the last what I
would say, big guests. We turned down because he didn't
want us or his It wasn't It wasn't DeAndre. It
was his. People said, we don't want to answer any

(46:07):
questions about Arizona, Like, no question about Arizona. Is that about, right, Ryan?
Was that the last time that's happened. Yes, I do
believe that is the last week. I can recall that
someone had very strict rules on what can and cannot
be asked. Okay, So I looked at this happens. It
happens in in sports where you're like, look, we can

(46:30):
we get you. A guest comes on. He's gonna come
on because he's got a promo something or getting it,
gonna come on because he he already I'll come on,
But you can't ask me about this. And then I
was like, look, I'm not doing my job unless I
ask you a question or maybe a question to follow
up question on it. You answer it however you'd like
to answer it. You know it's coming, but I have

(46:53):
to answer to ask the question. That's generally generally the
way it works. Um, do we have the full sound,
eyes or do you want me to just simply I
have the trip? Okay, So here's the full sound of
Kurt and Callahan asking Tom Brady about Alice Careera. We
saw the reports this weekend that U that Alex was
on the team plane, which he wasn't for the second

(47:14):
half of last year, I guess, and not on the sideline.
Is that is that accurate? Uh? Yeah, he was with
me this last week, so it is what changed in
him not being on the team plane last year and
this year. You know, I don't want to I'm not
getting into all that, Okay. When I ran in him
at the Super Bowl last year Minneapolis and I talked
to him there, he had said, in his opinion that
that all this stuff had been overblown, that he in

(47:35):
Belichick actually had a pretty good relationship even then. Would
you say that was true? I said, I don't want
to get into it. Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I mean
everyone knows it's well documented. How you know, the work
that he and I do together? No, I know, I no, no,
you know I understand that. I'm just trying to figure
out because I saw the reports this weekend that he's
traveling with the team. Was he on the sideline Friday? Yeah,
all guys have a great thing. I'll talk to you later.

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So look they got the click and and the phone
line and as as a glowing crime point out, he
calls from the land line, which is super super classy.
Who was it? Ryan? Who you said last week? Always
calls from the land line, like always, always the landline guy.
Chris Simms, Chris Sims is a landline guy, solid Chris
Sims out of NBC Sports. It's a quarterback thing. And
of course Chris Sims formerly worked with the Patriots. After um,

(48:21):
after football, after playing football. Maybe it's the Patriots thing. Hey,
we always call from the land lines, guys, guys, we
always call from land lines. Don't say anything in the
press conference and always called from land lines, Um Kirkmanahan.
I will support him in asking the first question and
even the follow up question. But once he says, I
don't want to get into all of that. Now you're

(48:43):
running the risk of getting hung up on or Tom
Brady coming back on what the hell fellas what what
the hell? Now? You can keep going with it. He
was trying to make it seem like the everyone saying
was a big deal wasn't a big deal, and he was.
But whatever you're trying to say, you get one, maybe

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I give you a follow up. You got the three,
and now you're running the risk of getting hung up
on and look to Kirk and Callahan's kind of like, look,
we asked the questions. Everybody wants to know the answers
to That's what we do. It brings publicity to their show,
and it makes Tom Brady look to people who don't

(49:31):
who aren't spending the time to read the transfer, just
listen to the audio. It makes it makes Tom Brady
look like a jerk. I mean, you hung up on something.
Who hangs up on somebody? Ever get hung up on
It makes him look like a jerk. But in truth,
he answered the question. He's like, look, I really don't

(49:51):
want to talk about that against again, you know, it's
really don't want to talk about that. That's enough. He's done.
I understand why the question was asked. He actually answered
the first question. I even understand because Tom Brady did
not make a full stop at the end of his answer,
why the follow up was asked. Once you go for

(50:12):
three too much too much music? Do you agree you disagree?
I mean, obviously we work under kind of same philosophy. Um,
should they have not gone there? What's your your gut
feeling on Kirk and Callahan and go and and asked
because they weren't really they weren't going at Tom Brady
and they weren't going at Belichick. But he was. It's

(50:34):
more you can get he was not. He's like, I'll
answer your question, but I'm not really answering your question. Yeah,
I definitely thought that. By the time that he kind
of had that, Brady basically shut it down and then
he came back with, well, yeah, I know, And but
I had talked to him, and I was just wondering, like,
was he on the sideline Like at that point, I

(50:56):
would be looking at that situation, going, man, I would
not be surprised if he if he weird to hang up.
The thing that I just find weird about it is
do you think it was Belichick or is it just
Brady being typical Brady where he's trying to avoid controversy
at all. Whether to talk about her. He said, I

(51:17):
don't want to talk about it. I just find it
weird talk about that's what that's what happens at home. Like, listen,
you're engaged now, everything is happy and lovely and whatever.
At some point she's gonna want to talk about something
like all right, listen, did you asked you again? And
she asked you and then you're like, listen, I really,
how is your day? Honey? Wasn't great? I just can

(51:37):
I can I just spend a little time in quiet? No,
how was your day? What's wrong? Listen? I really don't
want to talk about it. How is your day? Was wrong?
God leaves in AO, all right, that's what happened. You snap?
And instead of snapping, he was like, look, I don't
want to talk about it. I don't want to talk
about it. Like Ramos, you've been doing this a long time. Um,
you're on team Brady and team Kurt and Callahan. I'm

(51:58):
on team Brady only because as UM, I agree that.
I think once you ask a question, he says, you know,
I want to talk about that. They kind of follow
up with a kind of more conversational question, which he answers,
and then it should be done. But once you keep
going down the road over and over again, I think
eventually you deserve what you got right there. I don't
think it was that bad. Actually it did sound like
they really cared too much. And I don't think he

(52:20):
really cared too much. But I agree with you and
and Uh and Ryan the Hunter percent that you start there.
He says, no, you try one more time. He says, no,
you're done. You're done. You're absolutely done. And and here
here's the risk you run is at some point Tom
Brady goes like, look, I don't care the sponsor do.

(52:40):
I don't need it. I don't We already had a
guy who called and I don't understand why Brady was
got a guy fired. What was he called? Uh piss
And he's called his son a pissant, which again I
wouldn't have called anybody's son a piss and I don't
I think there's you have time to repair and your
some ran about his son and thinking that he's whiny

(53:02):
like any kid. If you have kids, you know that
kids can get whiny or and tied over whatever. Um.
I just think it's not a good look. But you
already had one guy get fired because he calls his
son a name. Now you at the morning show guys
clearly going above and beyond what's needed to try and

(53:23):
chase some narrative that they want about Alex Guerrero not
really being on the outs with the Patriots. So I
I just at some point your time bred you're like, look,
I just don't want to do it anymore. I don't
have to. I don't. I really don't have to. Whereas
had you asked two questions and then you went back

(53:44):
and he was upseting, like, look, we asked you a question,
and then we asked you follow up, and then we're good.
You start asking three or four. Come on, dude, what
are you doing? Everyone knows the basic rules you're allowed,
and anyone in broadcasting you say, look, I'm allow if
it's a recent story, I gotta ask you one. Otherwise
it looks like I'm chilling for you. If you don't

(54:04):
want to answer it, that's fine, but I gotta ask
you one. I gotta ask you. So I'm not a
fan of the We don't take radio interviews to which
people dictate terms. But what we do say is and
this is full candor full disclosure, because my show, I

(54:27):
love interviewing athletes, I like interviewing coaches. Not everybody does.
I feel like it's my It's kind of like I
take it as a challenge. I want to be able
to get inside the head of a guy that you're
going to see on Saturdays or Sundays or Thursdays or whatever,
and and have it from their own words, whatever type
of person they are. That's the deal here. But what
I won't do is I absolutely won't do this. I

(54:48):
won't have them. I won't have them dictate terms. But
I think it's reasonable to not also say, Look, you
can answer however you want. I just gotta ask you
a question about it, all right. Coming up next one
of my my closest friends in sports and Matt Holidays,
a seven time All Star, and I'm not sure you're aware,
but he's already back in the bigs. He's already hit
a home run with the Rockies. He was out of

(55:09):
baseball until like a month ago. Then the Rockies called up, like, hey, man,
you want to come down the park and see if
you can hit some balls. Two stops in the miners
hit a ball out of the park in Albuquerque, and
now he hits home run over the weekend in Colorado
and the Rockies are in a dog fight in the
NL West and in the wild card and he's returning

(55:30):
home to a place where he originally called home, his
first home in Major League Baseball. Matt Holiday joins us
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Doug gott Leave Show Fox Sports Radio back when this
song first came out and where um our next guest
was throwing footballs. It's still Water High School. Then, of

(57:21):
course he got drafted by the Colorado Rockies and decided
to not play for my alma mater, play football for
my own mother. He's Matt Holiday of the Colorado Rockies again.
He joins us here on the Doug Gottlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Maddie, how are you what? Um? Sorry
that we haven't been able to connect for breakfast. I'm
gonna try and how really? Like I just text you,

(57:42):
how really a riser are you? Because I gotta go
in and do color? Huh not not probably early enough
for you to have it done before you have to
be there. All right, all right, well maybe I'll slip back.
We'll fig we'll figure out a way to make it work. Um, okay,
so you joined us. It was like three few weeks ago, right,
three weeks here you're yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

(58:02):
and play back in the bigs again. Um did did you?
What was the There had to be a level of
trepidation when you show up in double A after playing
with the Yankees last year? What was that experience like
for you? Honestly, I really enjoyed it. Uh. You know,
we we spent four days in Grand Junction with his
rookie Lobo. Um, you know there's some kids and high school,

(58:25):
you know, the college. You know, they're just fresh out
of the draft. And see that was fun of a
good experience. Uh, kind of going back to rookie ball
and and kind of seeing, um, you know where those
guys are and and just kind of you know, I
had my boys with me and the whole family. So, um,
it was cool. They got to take batting cracks on
the field with the guys and and sitting the dugout. Um,

(58:46):
we really enjoyed it. Just trying to enjoy the process
and and uh and enjoy every day and and really
just a kind of a perspective going in was that
and my perspective coming towards this whole experiences just to
just kind of see where it leads and and just
enjoy it. Um and and really with no expectations and
no urgency and just kind of trying to be where

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I'm at. And uh, it was an enjoyable experience. And
then on to Triple A and in Albuquerque and and
uh and the same sort of deal, just kind of
uh doing the thing, just being part of the team
and we know, traveling and uh the boys got to
kind of do the same thing and be out on
the field and take batting practice and on the field,
and um, so I really actually really enjoyed it, and

(59:29):
uh and obviously culminating and getting a chance to come
back up to the major leagues and Okay, but it
didn't it wasn't like it clicked right away though. It
cook a couple of days before you started started kind
of hitting. Like I was reading, there's a couple of
of of sites and like the Rockies, they shouldn't be
all that fight up at Matt Holiday, you know who
knows about him playing in left field, and he struggled
with triple A pitch and then it seemed to click.

(59:51):
Was it? Did it feel good the whole time? Where
there's something that all of a sudden you're like, Okay,
I feel like I'm back. You know, I was confident
for too much right away, and how I felt physically
and how I felt h and and like I said that,
it doesn't always translate to oway and and there was
some timing stuff and you know, just like anybody else

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that jumps back into this the old even of spring
training when you when you haven't seen live pitching, you
haven't seen a hundred miles an hour fastballs and a
good bit of time. It takes some adjustment from from
a timing standpoint, from your eyes adjusting to to see
and spend to seeing different kinds of pictures and recognizing
pitches from from different angles. And so there goes into

(01:00:35):
a lot that goes into sort of getting the whole package,
sort of feeling comfortable, but as far as my skills
and my ability to hit the ball the way I'm
accustomed to and and uh and the way my body
was reacting to um days and games and pool games
and playing the field. I was. I was very confident that, um,
that I could still do it at a high level.

(01:00:55):
And it felt like that, Um, you know, it's just
a matter of time before I really started feeling comfortable
to play, and that seemed to come pretty quick. And uh,
here I am, so I feel good And when my
body feels good, I feel comfortable in the box and
and uh and so it was. I said. It was
one of those things where maybe didn't look good every time,
but but I felt good about it in the process
of it, and I was trying to just enjoy it.

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But day um and uh and here I am. Okay.
So for people who don't know, I think it was
Friday night right you were flying with It was last
Friday night. You were flying from Albuquerque to Colorado. And
I think I mistakenly like leak news you guys had
on your your your i G page, or maybe it
was your wife's I page. I was eating your son's

(01:01:39):
i G page because I follow your son on Instagram,
it was like Jets and Colorado, right, and so like,
oh I so I tweeted out like congrats and Rockies
fans like what are you talking about? Congrats? Like, we
don't even know if he's getting called up. And then wasn'
until the next morning when you're already there. Um, but
when did you find out that you didn't have the
right color cleats? Well, what happened was we were on

(01:02:00):
the road and El Paso, and you know, you've got
some one cleats and you've got some great cleats and
and so I just took the Gray Ones sale Passo
and we were in El Paso and when I when
they told me I was coming up, and it was
I think it was a Saturday, because I played on Sunday.
I don't know, I don't know what day it was. No,
maybe it was a Wednesday and I played on Thurns. Anyways, Um,

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they told me I was going up. So we ended up,
you know, having to find a flight and then um,
you know I got there, or actually the night before
the clubhouse guys who I've known forever text me, Hey,
what kind of cleat situation we got here? And I
was like, actually, I have a great. He's like, all right, well,
let me look around what size? And I was like fourteen.
So he texted back, nobody here, where's fourteens? Uh? But

(01:02:47):
I I got some stuff in my garage from back
when you played here. And so they sent me a
picture of of the cleats. Uh, and I had my
autograph on the toe. He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
blackness autograph out and and I was like all right.
Uh So the next day, uh, you know, it's the
gay day that I played and uh and he had

(01:03:07):
a couple of my cleats from two thousand seven and
my locker. Uh so I figured, uh, give it a
go and uh. And so that was cool just to
kind of wear some cleats from oh seven we had
that magical season and um, so that's kind of went.
Were those the ones that you didn't touch home in
I don't know. I don't know which. I don't know
if those are the ones. I had a lot of

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the same kind of pairs, but um, they could have been.
It could have been the ones that I touched home.
Now did you know you said you touched him? Okay,
so why oh so then so then you had on
the player's weekend jerseys, right and play you had I
touched home on it? Did you pick that or did
somebody else pick it out? That was photoshop? Um, I

(01:03:49):
didn't have time to put anything on my jersey because
basically I got there it was players weekend. So the
guy the uh, the guy that handles the Instagram page
for the Rocky because all this, Yeah, he said, hey,
is it cool if I put this on Instagram? And
I was like, yeah, that's funny, that's fine. So he, uh,
he put that on there. That sound. Actually it was

(01:04:10):
just my last name on the back of my journey.
You've had some great ovations, of course, and and there's
there there's an irony right to to hit in your
first home run against the Cardinals because the last time
you hit in a Cardinals uniform you hit a home run. Um,
but what's that feeling like to to like, you go
back a month ago and I think you're in a
good place. You're done with baseball unless the right thing

(01:04:33):
happened to go from being out of baseball, coaching your
kids and thinking about the next step to hitting a
home run in a Pennant race in Colorado. Yeah, it's
been a real World One. You know, it's it's really um,
it's been pretty cool, just kind of the way I
thinks of unfolded and as a man of faith, kind
of feeling like guy has had his hand on this,

(01:04:54):
and just really just kind of trying to embrace every
day and not really worrying about where it's going or
what the ending for of this is and what it
looks like. And so it's been really neat and to
kind of culminate in and and ending up back in
the major leagues with you know, playing the Cardinals this
past weekend and and sort of having both fan bases
and and you know, to get that ovation, like you

(01:05:15):
talked about, was pretty humbling and pretty just surreal kind
of experience of kind of showing back up the course
field as a Rocky where I started in two thousand
four and just kind of remembering pulling up to the
course field as a twenty four year old, so excited
about playing in your first major league game too. Uh,
you know, to be in called back up, so to speak,

(01:05:35):
it's alt. It's a little bit like being a kid again,
you know, honestly, to get called back up and the
adrenaline and the excitement of going to the field. Uh,
and that first game back and and uh and like
you said that the crowds have been really really cool
and really humbling to to get the kind of ovations
and appreciation from both fan bases against Cardinals and then
the first game against the Padres was, um, you know,

(01:05:57):
something I'll never forget and just just really neat honestly, Doug.
I've just just kind of try to enjoy this. And
and like I said, my expectations have not really been anything.
I've just you know, try to enjoy it with the
family kind of called it our our summer adventure and
and uh, just you know, enjoying each other and enjoying
our time and and wherever we're at. And it's it's
been pretty pretty cool experience. What's what what makes Ronado

(01:06:20):
so good? Like he's one of these guys that obviously
he's he's so he's a so cal guys come back
home playing in Anaheim tonight. Um, you know he grew
up around here in Mission V A O. And the
numbers are obviously spectacular, and you know how it works
when you play in Colorado sometimes those get kind of
brushed aside. But like thirty one home runs zovps around
uh around, h I mean, just crushes a baseball. He's

(01:06:42):
outstanding third baseman. But when when you watch his approach
at the plate, what impresses you? Well, he you know,
his his physical skills are tremendous. So I think everyone
knows that, But I think what he is is he's
one of those guys that that it really is all
in on baseball and he really eats and sleeps and
and breathes a baseball all the time. He's always talking

(01:07:04):
about this wall, and he's talking about hitting, and he's
trying to get better constantly, and he's what he that
knows what he's trying to do, and he's he's constantly
watching his his tapes and watching pictures and just really
one of those guys that that it's very cerebral about
the game and he is always looking to get better
and uh, you know it doesn't really care about accolades

(01:07:25):
or money. He's he's in it to be great, and
he's he loves to play and he plays every day. Um,
he's just a tremendous competitor. You know, he's very very
determined and and you combine that with a tremendous skill set,
which he has. Uh, and I think you get, you know,
an elite player, one of the best players in the game,

(01:07:45):
if not the best player in the game. And and uh,
somebody that's super fun to watch. Yeah, your boy Carpenter
over on the other side. And he had four hits
and I know they banged out about sixteen. He's had
had in a great August, but he had an incredible July. Um,
what is it that makes carb so good? Well, he's
another guy that that that you know, shows up to

(01:08:07):
the field that at one o'clock in the afternoon and
he's you know, he's he's everything is baseball and and
uh and he's one of those guys that it knows
himself really well. He's got a very very repeatable swing. Uh.
He pulled the ball really really well. He knows how
to pull the ball and pull the ball in the air. Uh.
He doesn't hit the ball the other way a ton,

(01:08:28):
but but he's so good at getting his swing off
and not swinging balls. I think that's the main thing
for him for me, is that he doesn't swing outside
the strike thow. He makes pictures, throw the ball with
the plate and and and he's very consistent at at
putting a good swing on it. So he's got a
tremendous year for them, and I think that between he
and Nolan, they've got to be the front runners for

(01:08:49):
EMPP and Uh, it's it's a it's pretty impressive for
a guy like uh, you know, have you know he's
got close to thirty four thirty five home runs and
and thirty eight doubles and in a pitcher's park, he's
he's had a tremendous sea though Matt Holiday joining us.
Colorado Rockets take on the Angels tonight, one game back
in the NL West. Um, what's what's the clubhouse feel like? Like?

(01:09:11):
You've been in championship clubhouse in Colorado, You've been in
one in St. Louis. This is a team that I
don't think anybody expanding with the Dodgers and the Dimingbacks
in the West, and of course, uh, you look at
what else is out there in nationally, I don't think
anybody had these type of expectations. Does it feel like
a championship or a playoff clubhouse? Yeah, it really does.

(01:09:32):
I think there's a lot of talent here that's maybe
underappreciate it a little bit at this point. Uh you know,
Trevor Story has got high end, high end talent, like
big time athlete, and uh, there's this guy, there's there's
there's baseball players all over the field. I mean obviously
from a clubhouse standpoint, it's just been a few days,
so I'm still kind of still kind of you know,
enjoying the late of the land and and figuring out

(01:09:52):
you know, rolls and and and who's who does what
and all those things. But it seems like a really
cohesive group. And I think the talent is is very strong.
I think the pitching young pitching, and the rotation is
is really good. And uh so I think it's definitely
a playoff caliber team. And that that was one of

(01:10:12):
the things that got me so excited about potentially chasing
this opportunity was the potential for this team to have
to get into the postseason and then make a run
into all Right, what about you? You mentioned on how
you're just taking a day by day and you're really
accountable where you are. What about you as a baseball player? Right,
because I think anybody else looks at your baseball card
and he's like he's how old and he's doing this,
Like how have you went, how do how do you

(01:10:35):
think you're different as a hitter? Especially it's one thing
you know last year rehabbing in New York or previous seasons.
When you're rehabbing, you take but when you're actually away
from the game, I feel like sometimes you learn more
about yourself and things you would do differently if you've
got a different opportunity. Are you the same guy? Are
you different than you were especially early in the season
last year in New York? You know, I'm really enjoying

(01:10:57):
this more. And I think as you look back at
your um for me, especially this year and not knowing
whether I was going to play again or what you
know got ahead in store for me. Um, I think
that as athletes sometimes we get caught up in the
grind a little bit too much and we don't enjoy, uh,
what we're doing. We don't enjoy the successes. It's more
relief than than having some joy that you're actually getting

(01:11:20):
to play a game and you get to help, you
know the team and enjoying these moments instead of just
being relieved for a moment and then it's on to
the next at bat or it's on to the next play.
And sometimes you know, we just grind it so hard
that that you look back at the end of the
season and you say, well, did I really even enjoy that?
And so that's something that I've I've really felt like that,
um I learned from and that I'm trying to enjoy

(01:11:42):
this and and have another opportunity to play and play
independent race like and I feel good. I feel good,
you know, swinging the bad I feel as good honestly
that I haven't in a while as far as having
it bats, being confident in my swing and and and
what I'm doing. Um So I'm excited about my opportunity
which I'm not what they're gonna be and how consistent bath.

(01:12:02):
I think I'm gonna play against most lefties, um and
and probably have some good, you know, good opportunities to
pinship and and we'll see. I don't know. I don't again,
I don't know exactly how this is gonna look, but
but I'm I'm pretty confident and where I'm at and
uh and trying to enjoy it all right, d h
in to night are you playing it? Because I don't know.
I haven't seen all n up yet. I don't think
I put it up I'm here, but I haven't seen it.

(01:12:24):
All right, stay stay ready. And by the way, seven
and seven and what what I say was seven and
five eighths is no? No? I seven seven three eight,
seven and fives. What is your size? Right? I wasna, Yeah,
that's that's that's that's you know, it's not that big.
But seven seven, three eights, I mean like, yeah, once
you get to eight, now you get jug ahead. You
get to man, how does that guy keep as that
guy stand up? Once you get below seven unless you're

(01:12:45):
a child with my sons, then then you get the
beetle choice, right, that's when you start getting those. Just
so we're clear, Matt Holiday rockies taken on the Angels night.
I will will, We will catch up sometime here on
this West Coast wing. Thanks for joining us. So good
a Matt Holiday seven time I'll star joining us. Uh.
Let's take you into Isaac lowen Kron's world in a second.
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(01:13:28):
to be with you, Doug today. Future Basketball Hall of
Famer Monty Genoble announced his retirement from the NBA after
sixteen seasons. Was with the San Antonio Spurs. Commissioner Adam
Silvers said in a statement, Monty was a pioneer who
helped globalize the NBA. He's one of basketball's greatest ambassadors. NFL,
the New York Giants agreed to an extension with receiver
Odell Beckham worth reported ninety million dollars over five years,

(01:13:52):
with sixty five million guaranteed. Here was the actual reaction
in the Giants locker room when this news that the
Beckham contract extension broke courtesy of fellow receiver Sterling Shepherd's instagram.

(01:14:18):
Elsewhere in the NFL, Jacksonville Jaguars receiver Mark ease Lee
out for the season after suffering a knee injury and
Saturday's preseason game against the Falcons. NFL media reports the
Patriots have agreed to a five year, fifty million dollar
extension with offensive guards Shack Mason. Speaking of the Patriots,
and a quarterback. Tom Brady cut short a paid appearance

(01:14:38):
on Boston's w e I Radio after being asked a
series of questions about controversial training guru Alex Guerrero. And
I'm just trying to figure out because I saw the
reports this weekend and he's traveling with the team. Was
he on the sideline Friday? Yeah? Alright, guys, have a
great thing. I'll talk to you later. Tune in next
week for hard hitting question. It is about Brady's keenwa

(01:15:01):
and kale smoothie recipe. Finally, in tennis US Open, number
one seats Simona Hallep was upset today in the first
round by Kayak Kenneppi. Duck back to you because in
tight Kaya Kenneppi. Here's the thing about Simona Hellop, does
it really matter? I know she was the number one
radio woman in the world, but did he anybody actually knew?
It is an amazing one's happen with women's tennis. My my, my,

(01:15:25):
my son plays tennis, and he were watching last year's final,
which was replayed on the Tennis channel yesterday, and he said, Dad,
is Serena the best? And I was like, ever, He's
like no, Now, and I go she she might be
the best female ever. She might not, probably Martina Navtilova,
although Serena's right there in any conversation. Um, but I

(01:15:48):
don't think she's the best now. Although the problem is
I couldn't name you half of the other not and
not like look, I work in sports, but women's tennis,
which was maybe not as popular, but name brand wise
is huge. Who are the names of the top You
would have told me Simona Hallip is the number one
ranked player in the world and was the number one

(01:16:09):
seed I and you said you want to and you
want to bet either side of that one, I would
have taken now anyway. The men's side, in the other hand,
huge names, huge names. Doug got Leave show rolls on
Colin cow heard things, Dak Prescott is underrated. I'll give
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(01:16:54):
time we'd like to bring for you a portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports One Fox Sports Radio.
We call it Colin Goward's getting ready for the NFL season.
He had this to say about Dak Prescott. I've always
had great appreciation for people who can stabilize things. People
can have ceilings. I'm okay with it, but stabilization is

(01:17:16):
a real thing. It's why I've always defended Doc Rivers
of the Clippers. They were a grease fire for forty years.
He has stabilized them. Do you watch the Cowboys last night?
Eight turnovers? Do you know the last time they look
like that? When Tony Romo got hurt before they drafted
Dak Prescott. That's what they looked like. Colin. They were
playing with backups last night, so it was Arizona. Arizona's
backups didn't have eight turnovers. This is what I've said

(01:17:37):
about Dak Prescott. Zeke Fire, des Fire. Jerry's always making noise.
Biggest brand in the league since Dak Prescott has arrived
with the loudest franchise in America, not football franchise, loudest
sports franchise. In North America is the Dallas Cowboys. He
has started thirty two games legit starts. They have not

(01:17:59):
only one thirty two, but of the remaining ten, they
have been in the game for five of ten one possession.
Dak Prescott is the great stabilizer. Okay, he's he's fine,
but but but here's the here's the important thing. If
he's the great stabilizer and he is solid, that's important.

(01:18:25):
Showing up at work and being solid is great. But
you know, is he Alex Smith? Right? Alex Smith is
a stabilizer. Alex Smith was a stabilizer in San Francisco.
Remember they was seven years before he ultimately hit and
then finally he he was solid there and they were like,
you know what, we love Alex We we really like
Alex Smith. We don't love Alex Smith. And so we're

(01:18:47):
gonna go with Colin Kaepernick, who gives us a shot
at the super Bowl and he did get them past
that next step. And then Alex Smith goes to Kancity
and he's been stable and he's been good. In a
matter of fact, he get his best season as a
pro with the Cancer. The Chiefs too, we need somebody
who can throw us to a Super Bowl, throw us
to a playoff game. And I don't even know if Zach,

(01:19:08):
if it's his Zack, if Dak is Alex Smith at
this point in his career in terms of his efficiency,
both the very mobile in and out of the pocket.
Both are solid dudes without bad reputations at all. But
you're given Dak, Dak walked into a loaded deck. Oh,

(01:19:29):
Dad was great two years ago, two years ago. Dez
Bryant still had it two years ago, so did Jason
wit And two years ago, the best offensive line in
the league. Two years ago, you had the best running
back in the league. A lot of dudes would kill
for that team they had two years ago. Wow, it
was unstable, like noth necessarily true? Douna rama was heard right?

(01:19:52):
Tuna Roma won thirteen games two years before that? Why
because they had dudes all over the place. So are
you a guy that can not hold us back from
winning or you guy that allows us to win? And
I think Dac is a guy who not who won't

(01:20:12):
hold them back from winning. But I don't believe that
Dak Prescott is a guy who allows them to win
or forces them to win, forces them to win. It's
doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Man, there
are a lot of things going on. Odell Beckham Jr.
We started the show with five years mill. It's really

(01:20:32):
sixty five mill and nineteen million a year. UM, I
don't What I don't do is I don't compare across um,
across different sports. But the idea that football doesn't have
guaranteed contracts. Odell Beckham Jr. Is guarantee to make sixty
five million dollars over the next five years. That's a
guaranteed contract. You may not like what the final number

(01:20:55):
is in guarantees, but that's the guaranteed number. That's it.
And what's interesting about the wide receivers like Sterling Shepard
going crazy in the locker room when they found out
that he had agreed to the terms in the deal.
Right and and you hear the um was that the
Eisleys was that money? The love of money? Is that

(01:21:15):
Eisley's I'm trying to think who sings that song? O J? Sorry,
the o J singing that song for the love of money.
The fact is that there's only one pie. There's only
one pie, And you're like, yeah, because all guys in
the NFL want other guys to get paid because they
assume that's going to raise up my value. If he's

(01:21:37):
worth nineteen million year and he's the number one, is
the number two? Like what am I worth? Twelve thirteen?
It's crazy money. It's not actually the way it works. Yeah,
not the way it works. And you may be worth
twelve million dollars a year, but maybe not with the giants,
because they're like, yeah, here's the thing. We only have
like a hunter mill to spend, and we spend a

(01:22:00):
bunch of Olivier Vernon, We spent a bunch of eight soldier,
and we spent a bunch on Odell Beckhams Jr. So
everybody else gets what's left. All right, that's the weird thing.
I completely understand celebrating somebody getting bad. Hey, Lebron's like this.
I love dudes getting paid. Love it. Lebron made that

(01:22:22):
mistake when he was in Cleveland. He loves when guys
around him get paid. And Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade
wou never obviously never got the top dollar like you
name it. You come to Cleveland and Kevin Love got
paid is great. Tristan Thompson j R. Smith They got oh,
just he he celebrates a matter of fact, many of

(01:22:45):
them were represented by his agent. But here's the problem.
There's a salary cap and he can't just go like, well,
why don't we just go out and get more guys?
Like yeah, there's these things, all salary caps. Not that easy,
not easy at all. We've got a little bit into
the Tom Brady thing. I will defend him on hanging
up on w E. I not it wasn't the first

(01:23:06):
question that was asked, like the third question that was asked.
And Mono Genobli retired today. And Mona is one of
those guys that asked basketball people. Dirk Look, Dirk was
a great score, Dirk was an m VP. Dirk won
NBA title as the go to guy, and that's harder
to do than being the sixth man. But to win
four NBA titles, to European titles and a gold medal

(01:23:29):
as well as a silver at the World Championships. I
actually think Mono is the most impactful player born outside
the contiguous United States. Most impactful the chem of course,
But I'm I don't you know, Kean went to school
in the States. It's a hard one, pat youing, but
he never won a championship. Steve Nash never won a championship?

(01:23:50):
Did when two m vps Canadian? If we go Europe
and South America, I don't think it's even close, more
so than Dirk Navitski. Coming up next, Um, we're gonna
ask Adam Character about Odell Beckham Jr's contract. Plus Nebraska
starting a true freshman. This is Doug gotlib Show. Fox

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(01:24:34):
here's a quick couple of quick takeaways. I get the
Aaron Donald deal, which is supposed to be done very
very soon, very soon, because that's who the rams are.
Rams are short term, not long term, and rams are
they're they're tired of being average, they're tired of being
Jeff Fisher, and they're going for it. But they're gonna

(01:24:54):
give Aaron Donald a ton of cash at twenty seven
years old. He's a dominant player. He's a dominant player,
and they're gonna be nasty, but a bunch of one
year deals and a bunch I mean, like THEO they
gave Brandon Cooks a bunch of money. We didn't really
have that much value around the league. But this is
long term. It's gonna hurt. And that's the exact same thing.

(01:25:16):
Remember they having yet, the Rams having yet had to
pay Jared Goff, and they're going to have to pay
Jared Golf. The Giants, I think, are even worse position
because at least the Rams were good last year paying
Aaron Donald have to bring in a bunch of dudes. Like,
at least the Rams were good, the Giants were bad.
And so their answer when they had a chance to
get Sam Donald a franchise quarterback for the next decade

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plus was let's draft a running back we have for
five years in our contract. Let's resign Odell Beckham Jr.
Who we have under club control before he ever plays
the game, and give us the biggest contract in the
history of the position. Plus they got Olivier Vernon, who
they overspent on. Plus they have Nates Solder who they
overspent on. Like, they got a lot of money tied
up into three positions, and boy, the better hope Eli

(01:25:59):
has something in the tank, and what happens when they
got to replace Eli. So I guess I'm supposed to celebrate,
but I'm also reasonable and thinking, like, I don't know
how much the Vikings that don't have a super highly
paid wide receiver, right, Stefon dig has got a new deal,
but not like huge, huge money they got Adam Feeling.

(01:26:21):
You know, they actually lost their starting running back for
the year. They're working there and and but now they
got a bunch of money and Kirk Cousins, but that's
because they saved elsewhere. Looking at the Philadelphia Eagles, they
spend a bunch of money, but whence On, you know,
third year of a rookie deal foals not making a bunch.
Not huge name wide receivers are huge. Name running backs,

(01:26:43):
skill position guys are a little bit dicey to spend.
Not I'm looking around the National Football League and like
and and Hey, Pittsburgh, they got a bunch of money
in a running back. They got a bunch of money
in a wide receiver. Their defense they're lying at times
to suffer because of it. I think it's gonna be
in interesting to see how it all works, how it

(01:27:06):
all works because um, it needs to work. It needs
to work now. If it doesn't work now, then what
Let's welcome to a guy who, uh you may remember,
was the first round pick of the Washington Redskins overall pick,
a star, actually a super stud back when Nebraska was

(01:27:27):
in the Big twelve. Adam character joins us on the
Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Look, I know
that guys in the league always celebrate when other guys
at their positions or anybody who gets paid. You celebrate
because it drives the average salary up. That's good news
for everybody. But within like the Giants locker room is
actually a good thing when you got money tied up

(01:27:49):
in three or four guys. I mean, honestly, if I
was in that locker room, you are happy that your
teammates are doing well, that they're getting paid, and you're
not really focused on where the money is tied up overall,
because you're not your GM. You figure it's not your job.
You're happy that your guy, your friend, your teammate is
doing well, and now behay man, congrat, let's go hit

(01:28:11):
the field, Let's lay somebody else. That would be my attitude.
I wouldn't be too focused on the GM's job, because
that's that's its problem, not mine. Adam character joining us
on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
about that it's a wide receiver? Should there be anymore? Like? Look, oh,
b J is an unbelievable combination speed, athletic ability and
route running. But it's the other stuff, right, Yeah, he's

(01:28:33):
been hurt, but it doesn't sound like a knee, not
a hip, not a back. But he has been hurt
a little bit obviously going back to last year, missed
eight games, only played really in two games played a
little bit and two others. Um, But it's been the
off the field stuff and and he hasn't He seems
to have made right with the organization, but he hasn't
played a game since we saw the video with the

(01:28:53):
girl in the what looked like coke in a in
a hotel room. Shouldn't we allow him to see him
play go through adversity before we give a bunch of money.
Let's see again. If I'm a player, I got a
totally different mindset. If I'm the GM, I would agree
with your thoughts. You know, it's one of those things
where he's gonna say, hey, if you've done it, I'm
eventually gonna walk and I may hold us against you.
And he's an elite, a talent. If I'm a player

(01:29:15):
in that locker room, I'm looking at him like, hey, man,
let's clean up the off field crap and let's get
ready to hit the field. And we need you to
be one of the leaders on this team. We need
you now to become a guy that the young guys
can look to to model their behavior after. Okay, we've
got to clean up some of this childish behavior. We
love your passion, but you gotta get your mind right.
So there's a difference between looking at it's a fan.

(01:29:37):
You're like, man, is, here's a lot of risk in
this money. So I understand that mindset right there, and honestly,
i'd be with you. I'd be a little bit more
hesitant if I was in the GM shoes to hand
out money like that uh Adam character joining us in
the Doug Gotlip Show All American at Nebraska first round
pick the Washington Redskins thirteen pick overall, I want to
ask you about Nebraska football. Look, I I love what

(01:30:00):
I love the idea of what Scott Frost brings, you know,
bring back, bring back the old guard right with with
a little new twist, because he saw he helped implement
Organs outstanding offense and then finished undefeated last year at
Central Florida. But how much more difficult is this job
now than it was back when the Big Red was rolling?

(01:30:21):
I think the job now so there's always a silver lining,
Like if something's going wrong, I'm having a bad day.
My wife like if you always be worse, and I'll
be like, it could always be better, you know, But
there's always a silver lining no matter how bad it
is in that moment, And they's silver lining. And I
love Mike, great guy, but he was not successful on
the field wins and losses. The silver lining is people's

(01:30:42):
expectations have been lowered. Like we're six and twelve in
our last eight teen games here in Nebraska. For forty
years we didn't win forty two years, we didn't win
less than nine games. The expectations have been lowered people.
If you ask them, out of seven billion people walk
in the face of Gosh Green Earth, who's the right
guy for this job? Most of the Grassians are gonna
say Scott Frost translation there's going to be patient, there's

(01:31:04):
going to be support or frankly, Mike Riley didn't have it,
but not many other people would have it. So it's
almost kind of like the silber lining is. Yeah, we
went through some years there weren't phenomenally phenomenal, but the
future is bright and people are willing to wait for it. Yeah,
I mean, but but here's the here's the difference. Okay,
when you're in school, you're in the Big Twelve, and
even you go back to when they were dominant in

(01:31:26):
the Big Eight, k State used to be one of
the worst programs on Earth. Kansas has always been one
of the worst programs on Earth. Right, you had Missoo
and Colorado. I mean there was yes, you had Oklahoma
and Oklahoma State in the Big Eight days, but you
could chalk up five, you know, four or five conference
wins every year in the Big Twelve. You also you
played all of those teams in the North. You didn't

(01:31:48):
not necessarily play Oklahoma every year or Texas every year,
so sometimes you would get a Texas Tech and again
you could chalk up you know, five conference winds every year.
Now you're in the Big Tech and granted you're not
in the Michigan Michigan State, Penn State and Ohio state side.
You're in the in the in the in the West,
which is easier. But look, you can't compare Iowa State

(01:32:10):
and Iowa you know, or Wisconsin to anybody else in
the big twelve North. And oh yeah, by the way,
you're not playing every year in Texas and where you
used to recruit in the East. Now you've got a
C C football and and the a C which used
to be the Big East. It's a lot more competitive
in areas you used to be recruiting outside of Nebraska,

(01:32:31):
and the competition in conference is a lot more competitive.
So again, let's go back. How much different is the
job than when you play there. I would argue the
biggest challenge that we had was when they got rid
of Prop forty eight. That's a really effective the type
of players that we could bring in. Because we could
bring in those types of players and we have, you
could argue in Nebraska and more academic all Americans in

(01:32:52):
anybody in the country. You could get those players eligible,
you can get them playing and their talented. So I
would argue is tough as anything because we can't use
that anymore at Nebraska. Now you talk about the conference
schedule in the difference there, I mean, in the Big Hey,
let's be honest, you think you could chalk up five wins.
You could chalk up every win except for basically Oklahoma
was the one game you had to fight and work

(01:33:13):
hard every year to win. In the Big Twelve. Being
in the North, it wasn't as tough as the South.
That's why the South dominated the Big Twelve championship game.
But that kind of comes back to in the West.
I mean, the West is owen four in the Big
Ten championship game versus the East Division so far, so
the West kind of needs a little bit of a savior.
But again, in the West, you're not playing all those
teams from the East. Ohio State at Penn State, Michigan,

(01:33:34):
Michigan State. Every year you're kind of alternating, so you
do have like this year's schedule is is freaking rural.
Let's right out of the battles of how I mean, Michigan,
Michigan State, Ohio State, Um, you got Colorado coming into town.
Who's not you know, I'm not not gonna play for
the patrol title like they did a couple of years ago,
Wisconsin and Ohiowa. All those games are on the road
this year. So it's a little bit of the luck

(01:33:55):
of the jaws to who you get in the crossover games.
Like two years ago, Wisconsin lost three games and they
were finished the regular season ranked seven. Let's finished ranks
sixth because their crossover games were so much easier. So
the job itself, people are looking at the situal, look
at the thing that you are. And it used to

(01:34:17):
be man a conference championship feed Oklahoma, that's almost expected,
not being Oklahoma, but being in that game. Now if
we get the Big Ten championship game, people are like, Okay,
we've made progress, we're going in the right direction. Let's
get to the point where we're getting to this game,
and then let's get to the point where we're winning
words before with let'speed Oklahoma, let's play for national titles
every year, which is where we want to get. The

(01:34:38):
expectations are different now, um Adam, I want to ask
you about Adrian Martinez. Last time a Martinez started as
a freshman at at Nebraska didn't work out so well.
Taylor Martinez right, wasn't the super and he couldn't throw.
Adrian Martinez a kid from Fresno. He's had some arm
issues going back, um, I think after his junior year

(01:34:58):
in high school, but super were talented A six two
two twenty and just one the Nebraska quarterback job. Can
he can he throw? Like, I know he can run
and I know they're gonna run a lot of zone read,
but can he actually throw accurately throw football? Well, So
that that's the big question is how much are they
going to trust him to throw the ball? So Tristan

(01:35:18):
Jeff who he beat out for the job, was a
better pastor, but he was also a freshman, so it
was like, which guy can you really trust being a freshman,
and it's almost like, well, this guy is the future
of our offense anyway, and he can run better, so
let's go at Adrian's a little bit safer if you
can always you can always run take off when a
play breaks down. So when it comes to Adrian, that's
the question mark that we don't exactly have the answer to.

(01:35:41):
His former players that were allowed to go to practice
up into a couple, but like members of the media,
have not been allowed to go to practice. So a
lot of people are gonna see Adrian Peters Adrian Martinez
for the second time, including the spring game this Saturday
against Accress. So that's a question that I'm awaiting an
answer to. See Ray stuff Man Adam. By the way,
you can check out Adam Character. Uh the Character Chronicles

(01:36:06):
a k. The People's Show. How can I get the
People's Show? Oh? You know what that's I'm a big
pro wrestling fan and when I started the Chronicle four
years ago, first of all, I thought nobody would ever
watch it. So I was like, I'm gonna steal a
line from The Rock. You know, he was the People's Chance.
It's gonna be the People's Show. And I do. I
do a lot of things like people hit me up

(01:36:26):
and I pay attention to responses and they don't dictate
everything that happened. But I try to make it the
people Show as much as possible. So I took it
directly from the Rock and very open with that. I'm
a big time fanum so if you smell when I'm cooking,
that's how it became the People Show. I love it,
Adam Character. Adam, thanks so much, great stuff, appreciate you
joining us, Thanks for having me. Coming up next, I'll

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Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. Man, I hope you're having
a great day. I know, I am music. You have
a good weekend? Last weekend? No football? Do you have
a good weekend? Had a great weekend, Doug? Do'n what
you did? Oh? Let's see. Friday night, celebrated my future
brother in law's birthday. Then Saturday, um, we checked out

(01:37:55):
a potential wedding location and then we went and sell
alebrated her best friend's birthday in Santa Monica. And then
Sunday just kind of hung out and relax, golfed a
little bit. Um you play golf driving range? Okay, Okay,
he did. Did he did? He did? Ramos? He did

(01:38:16):
try to say he played golf, didn't he He said
a little bit, I said I golfed a little bit. Um. Okay,
but Ramos, I need a ruling on this one. Golf
a little bit implies playing golf. Yeah, I I personally,

(01:38:38):
and it's just my opinion. I a personally. When someone
says that, I wouldn't think they were at the golf range,
I think they were actually playing like five or six holes.
Uh yeah, that that's what sounds like me. Listen, I'm
not like coming at you. It sounds like a great weekend.
It's awesome. I'm just just being honest, Ramos, good weekend. Yes,
I spent Saturday at a softball league tournament with my daughter.

(01:38:59):
He played a old header. It was crazy. A lot
of fun though, a softball doubleheader a lot of fun. Yeah,
it was lots of fun. Yeah, we wanted the first game,
lots of second but we played very well as our
first league game in this Burbank tournament. So awesome. So
so Ronce you're doing. You're a better softball coach than
the worst soccer coach I am. Yes, I will admit

(01:39:19):
to that yes, Okay, that's cool. Um, so we we
are like we're still not yet in the go crazy
with sports. I mean, like the little dude is, and
he is. He is right now hardcore surfing, like has
terrible surfresh on his on his abs because he we
went to Doheini for three hours yesterday and then hit

(01:39:41):
Newport for like an hour and a half, and like, look,
I love the water right now in southern California. If
you're not you're not from southern California, the water is
usually really cold here, right, It's just that's how that's
how would stays cool in the in the summer, right,
and it doesn't. It's usually very very cool as opposed
Atlantic which is really really warm in the summer. But

(01:40:02):
it has been remarkably like close to eighty degrees above
and below for most of the last month. So I
love going in the water now. But like, dude, three
hours when I'm not on the board is that's all
a good long period of time. But he is hardcore
and so I mean hardcore into it. But I was

(01:40:23):
I was gauging people's reaction to terrible injury to marquis
Ley marquis Lee Star wide receiver played at sc and
of course place now for the Jacksonville Jaguars gets hit
on the knee by the Atlanta Falcons and is out
for the year. Here's his teammate, defensive back Jalen Ramsey

(01:40:43):
on the hit over the weekend. You can't be mad
at two seven. It kind of gonna be mad at
the NFL. I guess I'm mad at him, but I mean,
it's just how the rule is. Like people are scared
to tackle normal I guess just because they think they're
gonna get helmets, helmet or they think they don't get flagged,
and now it's not even flagged and also you know,
potentially getting thrown out the game. Mm hmmmm. So the

(01:41:11):
idea is, hey, guys, this is the old I'd rather
get hitting the head than hitting the knee. I'd rather
getting the knee that I've rather get hit in the
head than hitting the knee. First of all, you say that,
Say that to somebody who can't remember where they parked
their car, can't remember their wife's name, Like this is
a short term, long term conversation that guys always have

(01:41:33):
a right, Like ask Steve Gleason if you would rather
get hitting in the knee than the head. Right, But
even if you don't look at the hit on Mark
kis Lee, go back and go back and check out
the hit. Go on, look at it, and what will
you notice? You'll notice that it's the helmet, the top

(01:41:56):
of the helmet. Davant a CAZy use the top of
his helmet to hit the knee of Marquistley. This also
is not how you're supposed to be tackling. That's the
whole point. Go back to what Bill Belichick said. Was
it last week or the week before? I'm sorry, I
get my weeks confused. I was doing two different shows

(01:42:18):
last week. I apologize to you if I forget was
it last week music or the week before? Where he's like, look,
we I've never felt like it was a good position
to tackle. You're leading with your helmet, you gotta be
up and be proper position, like Casey's going, he's just
shooting for somebody's knees. He's not even looking at what
he's hitting. I do believe that was last week. Yeah,

(01:42:38):
so I do I understand that this is like football
players that don't know, like man, i'd I'd rather get
hit in the knee. I really get hit in the head.
You know, I can recover from concussion. My niece splits
and half like, no, actually, it's not how it works.
You get dinged in the head and you think you're fine,
but you've begun a chain of events that is going

(01:42:59):
to hurt you a long term. And yeah, the head
that hits a little low. But if he if he
simply tackles looking up in that same position, in proper
tackling position, knee injury doesn't happen. I actually think the
NFL's new rule one with that awful hit. The only

(01:43:20):
problem was it wasn't called a penalty. But you're still
launching your body. It's just what you're launching your body.
Add then you have the Tom Brady situation. Take a
listen this Tom Brady earlier today on with Kirk and
Calahan's top rated morning show in Boston. We saw the
reports this weekend that, uh that Alex was on the

(01:43:41):
team plane, which he wasn't for the second half of
last year, I guess, and not on the sideline. Is
that is that accurate? Uh? Yeah, he was with me
this last week, So is what changed in him not
being on the team plane last year? And this year.
You know, I don't want to I'm not getting into
all that. Okay. When I ran in him at the
Super Bowl last for Minneapolis, when I talked to him there,
he had said in his opinion that that all this

(01:44:02):
stuff had been overblown, that he in Belichick actually had
a pretty good relationship even then, would you say that
was true? I said, I don't want to get into it. Okay, Yeah,
I mean everyone knows it's well documented. How you know
the work that he and I do together? No, I know,
I know, No, you know, I understand that. I'm just
trying to figure out because I saw the reports this
weekend and he's traveling with the team. Was he on
the sidelinine Friday? Yeah, guys, have a great thing. I'll

(01:44:24):
talk to you later. So so it it sounds to
people like to Tom Brady is just hanging up, I
don't want to talk about it and getting pissy with
Kirk and Callahan, who's paid to do the appearance on
just because I'm paid to do this appearance, this is like,
well like, look, this is like you go into a
gentleman's club, right, You're going to a gentleman's club and

(01:44:48):
they are paid to dance for you, not anything else. Sorry,
fellas that clubs down the street. That that's physically it is,
give the gonna give you a hundred bucks and we
get a little more. Like, no, that's not really what
I'm here for. And I have a two hundred bucks
and I get a little more. That's not really how
we roll here. This is a classy joint. We do

(01:45:10):
things by the rules. Boys, keep your hands to yourself.
Almost you uncomfortable with the Gentleman's club comparison there, almost
sitting there sweating. He's like, where's he going with this?
Where's he going with this? Yeah? It was an interesting comparison,
but it is it is correct. I mean when you
think about it, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but it is correct.

(01:45:35):
Look at this. I don't I don't have any problem
with curtain Callahan asking him a question or evenna follow
up about about Guerrero. Hey, Guarros back on the well
on the sideline. Is there anything we should know? Is
as what's the relationship? There's a there's an artful way
to ask a question, what's the relationship like now between
Guerrero and the Patriots? Um, where where are you with

(01:45:59):
the New England Patriot? In regards to Alex Guerrero, like
any of these two questions to find and when he
says like twice, like hey, I don't really want to
talk about Like that's good, We're good, it's over done, finished,
try to move on. So I understand that people want
to dislike Tom Brady. You want to think he's so

(01:46:21):
arrogant he can't be asked what are normally fair questions?
But like, look, you don't want to talk about it,
you asked, he answered, ysked again, he answered, we're good.
Let's check in with Isaac Lowen Crown. Isaac, I took
it from your your feelings. You disagree? What uh what
could have given you that impression there? Doug, my condescending

(01:46:44):
remark about the one, and you made a good point.
There are no one d thirty pound sports talk radio
dweebs in Boston. The food in that market is just
too good. The other thing I was wondering, though, what's
in it for Brady to even do that. I'm sure
he gets paid a lot, but a lot to him,
relatively speaking, is pocket change. I just don't understand what

(01:47:06):
the benefit for him is to do those paid interviews.
But the drama continues, and we get it up. Um.
I mean, like, look, he gives us. He obviously wants
to set his own narrative. He wants to be on
the radio, he wants to seem like a normal guy.
And I think normally they go well, and occasionally he
says something that gets the news. I also think, like, look,
Eli Manning does it in New York. They all do it.

(01:47:26):
I think it's kind of it's it's like one of
those it's you know, it's like it's like O T A. S.
You don't have to be here, but you should probably
be here. And with that in mind, it's a chance
for him to control the narrative because I'm sure if
he just put out some typical athletes speak Vanilla's statement,
give a thirty second answer without saying anything, the host

(01:47:48):
would just move on. Because the number one thing they
tell you in PR and crisis communications is don't prolong
the story, and he certainly did no prolonging for the
career of future Hall of Famer Manhu. He announced his
retirement from the NBA today after sixteen seasons with the Spurs.
Commissioner Adam Silver sang in a statement, Man who was

(01:48:08):
a pioneer who helped globalize the NBA. He's one of
basketball's greatest ambassadors. By the way, speaking of Charles Barkley,
who you heard a second ago, he told the New
York Times of Junobli today, my mon who retired. It's
like losing a family member. See you soon at the
Hall of Fame. NFL, the New York Giants agreed to
an extension with the receiver Odell Beckham with reported ninety

(01:48:31):
million dollars over five years, with sixty five million guaranteed.
And here was the actual reaction in the Giants locker
room to the news courtesy of fellow Giant receiver Sterling
Shepherd's instagram. In New England, Patriots news not involving someone

(01:48:59):
hanging up. NFL media reports they've agreed to a five year,
fifty million dollar extension with offensive guard Shock Mason. And finally,
in tennis today, US Open number one seed Simona Hallep
was upset in the first round by Kaya Canneppy. Doug
back to you appreciate Isaac. We're gonna agree to disagree
on the Tom Brady thing. Um, yeah, I mean going

(01:49:21):
back to what Isaac said, which was like, why why
even do it if you don't want to answer kind
of questions from the people. This is just like one
of those things that that's it's it's generally done right.
And yeah, they get paid and usually what they would
guys do from that little the chump change money is
that's how they take care of, you know, their driver
guy or the security guy. This guy gets take care of,

(01:49:43):
that guy gets Like the famous stories Michael Jordan had
his his camp at you see Santa Barbara and you
know Jordan. For Jordan, he got to go to Santa Barbara,
stay the four seasons, play golf every morning, and he
showed up, you know, and spoke to the camp every
afternoon and then played ball at night and then we
go out that night as well. And he said, why
does Jordan do it? He was making so much money

(01:50:04):
he didn't need it. Was like, yeah, but he was
making a lot of money. But what he would do
was he'd make three or four million on the camp
and he'd give you know, some people here, some there, something.
All of his guys got taken care of so that
it never really came out of his bottom line and
then he writes it all off genius to it. So
I would guess that's what this is. One of those
the team wants you to do it. You know, hey,

(01:50:25):
they listen, they carry our games. We want you to
do it, like we'll get your sponsored. We'll get you
paid for it. Fine, you get you getting money for it.
You know, it's usually sponsored by a car place. You
get a free car. Because rich people don't like paying
for things. That's why they're rich. That's how you stay rich.
You don't buy stuff. You know, new money buy stuff
old money, and they don't buyse they you know, it's

(01:50:47):
all trade deals. Anyway, you work that thing out, but
then the team kind of pushes you to do it,
pushes you to do it anyway. H eight seven seven
nine on on Fox is the phone number eight seven
seven nine on on Fox. Here's the report from Ian Rappaport.

(01:51:09):
The New York Giants and Odell Beckham Jr. Have agreed
to a five year, ninety five million dollar contract extension.
He receives the highest ever fully guaranteed amount for a
receiver at forty one forty one million, with sixty five
million in total guarantees. The extension also averages twenty million
over the first three years. Antonio Brown's seventeen million dollar average,

(01:51:31):
Mike Mike Evans fifty five million in total guarantees where
the benchmarks, and Odell Beckham Jr. Far surpasses both of them.
Now it's not quarterback money, but his his eighteen a
year in base in over new money is second only
below Von Miller. There is a life is not black

(01:51:53):
and white. It's just not. It's one of those things.
What happens with, for example, social media is you know,
social media pushes you to the fringes, to the right,
to the left politically, and as politics invade sports. That
that's how we are in sports. You know. Like if
I say I don't think Lebron James is the greatest

(01:52:14):
player ever, Guys like Nick right, like what you think
he stinks? Like, No, I just think Michael Jordan is better.
A matter of fact, I've said at the end of the
the game in their prime, I'd rather have Larry Bird
with the basketball. I just would equally adeptive not better passer,
far better shooter, the skilled shopmaker obviously not the athlete

(01:52:38):
of Lebron. Not the athlete, but a much more diverse
skill set of offensive moves and offensive weaponry. In my opinion, Um,
but that doesn't mean that I, you know, there's a
million basketball players lifetime. If I think Lebron James is
one of the five greatest ever, like, that's not exactly

(01:52:58):
a slight How I look at I think the world
is in gray, and so look, I actually, on one hand,
totally understand that the Giants are, like, look happy, Odell
Beckham Junior is productive, Odell Beckham Jr. He is the
best if you just look at the football player, unbelievable
and best combination of great athletes, great right runner, great speed,

(01:53:20):
and only at twenty five years old. And basically this
becomes like a lifetime he's a lifetime New York Giant.
Like we've had him for four we get him for
five more. Like we're pretty good shape. We're gonna get
the best out of his career. But on the negative side,
there's the Hey, why don't it just a couple months

(01:53:41):
ago that you guys were considering trading him because he
posted some Snapchat video with a chick in a hotel
room and there cocaine being there that that did happen, right,
And and you go back to the previous year, didn't
they have major issues with him and his quarterback telling
him he needed to get right in the the kicking
net thing and the and the the on field antics

(01:54:04):
with Josh Norman, Like did that did happen? The same guy?
And he hasn't played a game even this year a
matter of fact, hasn't played a game since Week four
of last year. That these things did happen? Correct? And
the Giants a team that have always tried to spend
smartly but huge money. Olivier Vernon huge money into Nate Soldier,

(01:54:25):
overpaid for Nates Soldier, and now I spent more money
on one wide receiver and they have the rest of
the rest of the wide receiving corp combined. This this
is like Odell Beckham Jr. Is essentially what the Giants
are doing. Huge reward, a lot of risk. He is

(01:54:48):
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he is a quarterback goo rue or as my dad
just say, guru, which I don't really know where that
sentences that that comes from. I don't really know where

(01:55:51):
it comes from at all. Guru Like now that that's
a guru. Guru. Well, let's get to the press, shower
the press. It's guru, isn't it Isaac Lori as in
Tom Brady's controversial Guru Alex grow All right, let's begin

(01:56:12):
with the National Football League. Indianapolis Colts head coach Frank
Reich announced today that Andrew Luck will not be practicing
today because of a minor foot injury. He was injured
on a sack and Saturday's preseason game against the forty Niners. Again,
Reich says it's a minor foot injury and also added

(01:56:33):
that if this was a regular season game, where he
would be able to play huh um. Look, he actually
said he finally felt better. He like he finally felt
better um and and felt like he knew where the
ball was going. He felt like there was a massive
improvement as he played better in his last preseason game.

(01:56:55):
So hopefully the foot is a minor thing. But a
guy who's finally been making major steps for the show
or doesn't need any setbacks don't open until September nine
against the Cincinnati Bengals. To A. Tago Vila and Jalen
Hurts were listed today as co starters on Alabama's first
official depth chart, and when asked about the quarterback situation,

(01:57:17):
Nick Saban said, none of that has been decided yet.
I wish we could talk about something else. Mr Happy
Pants then added, I don't think you should assume anything. No,
I don't. If I'm ready to tell you, I'll tell you.
If I'm not, I won't, all right, so you can
assume that, Mr Hap another news, Saban also announced to

(01:57:42):
deal with a new weekly radio interview with w e
I Isaac low Isaac Lowen Cron everybody tap your way, staff,
try the veal. I mean, what what do you expect?
To get from from Nick Saban. My favorite one was
like people just think we're gonna we lose the play.
We're just gonna poop one out right, you don't. I

(01:58:04):
always wait, you don't. Oh okay, I'm happy as hell.
That was the greatest sound bite, not the happiest hell,
but the one you just mentioned that was the I'm
shocked if that didn't get more national play. I think
it happened on a weekend, right, so maybe that's why
didn't it didn't go viral. But only Saban could say

(01:58:27):
something like that, he's in He's in the Spurrier zone, Isaac.
We we called we used to call this a Spurrier zone,
right once you can Steve Spurrier could say anything you wanted.
Plus he and and Saban's getting too that age too,
was he's very well well hell uh used like Blaine
George the start of the year, and they always had
a couple of guys to spend and you're like whoa, whoa,
And then you're like, look like, well they always does

(01:58:48):
have a couple of guys to spend it like, he
could say whatever he wanted. Uh, if only social media
was around when Spurrier was a head coach in the
college game. Staying in college football, Mississippi State quarterback Nick
Fitzgerald was suspended for their opening game against Stephen F.
Austin and John Moorehead's first game as a head coach.

(01:59:08):
He was suspended for a violation of team rules back
in March. Of course, this does seem to be the
season for first opening game suspensions, and then it was
just suspended, but team violation of team rules. Just what

(01:59:34):
are you insinuating. I'm not specified. I'm not insinuating anything.
Studio seems very smoky. All of a sudden, Hugh Jackson,
the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, announcing that Baker
Mayfield will get the start this Thursday against the Detroit

(01:59:56):
Lions and could play the entire first half. So a
lot more material for Baker Mayfield to learn and grow,
and also a lot more material for the folks at
Hard Knocks. Big Yeah, I mean like Baker Mayfield is
gonna play a bunch. That's because he's not the starting quarterback.
We'll see he was awful in his last preseason out
and we'll see how much he bounces back playing against

(02:00:17):
guys that won't play in the NFL this year. The
NFL and the Players Association met today regarding the anthem
policy negotiations, and they actually issued a joint statement saying,
today we continued our productive dialogue on the issues that
players have raised awareness about, and we remain committed to

(02:00:38):
working together on solutions. In the spirit of our ongoing
collaboration and process, we will continue the confidentiality of our discussions. Unquote,
a lengthy statement in which they seem to be saying much. Yes,
that that is, that is that is really really remarkable
how little was said right there. Tom Brady take notes

(02:01:03):
onto the Denver Broncos where Evance Joseph announced that second
year quarterback Chad Kelly will start the preseason finale and
play the first half Paxton Lynch and after that. So
that means they're not going to play case Keenum, who
was the presumptive starting quarterback. But it's a chance for
Chad Kelly to make his impression and continue his staking

(02:01:25):
his claim as the backup quarterback in the my High City. Yeah,
and I mean and and a guy in Paxston Lynch
is gonna I mean he's playing with the third and
fourth teamers. Good luck with that one. Right, I mean,
good luck with guys that can't block, So that'll be fascinating,
fascinating to me. And that is the pressures that the

(02:01:47):
press can ask you a question. Isaak Gonna, I'm bringing
in on this one. Um, I've got an interesting a tweet,
Isaac says different, Isaac, Isaac case. It is funny how
everyone wonders why the Giants didn't take a replacement for Eli.
The Giants had a better track record than the Jets
or the Browns by a mile. Maybe people just are
just smarter and realized overdrafting a non franchise quarterback is

(02:02:11):
the worst thing for a franchise. What's fast thinking about
the Jets is I was looking so, um, here's the
Jets records since uh, two thousand and eight, So the
last ten years, right, last ten years, the Jets were
nine and seven, nine and seven, eleven and five, eight
and eight, six and ten, eight and eight, four and twelve,

(02:02:32):
ten and six, five and eleven, five and eleven. That's
the that's their record. Okay. They they lost in the
conference championship twice in back to back years in two
thousand nine, two thousand and ten. Do the Giants have
a better or worse run over the last ten years.
That's the question to you, Isaac than the Jets just

(02:02:53):
off the top of your head, Off the top of
my head. I mean, they obviously won the Super Bowl
on a coughlin in super Bowl forty six, and that
was within the last seven years. But if you're asking
me this question, there's got to be a reason I'm
going to say no. You're gonna say no, Okay, just
close you're you're you're trusting me that that that's that's

(02:03:14):
basically why, right, yes, okay. So so here's um, here's
what they have done since two thousand and eight, two
thousand eight, twelve and four, a little bit better, eight
and eight, ten and six, nine and seven, nine and seven,
seven and nine, six and ten, six and ten, eleven
and five, thirteen and three. They won the Super Bowl
in between. That's the only difference they've been. The Giants

(02:03:35):
have been the playoffs three times in the last ten years.
The Jets have been in the playoffs two times in
the last ten years. The Giants have won one Super
Bowl and then they've lost their first game in both
the other two playoffs that they've been in. The Jets
got all the way to the the a f C
Championship and lost twice. They've had equally good years and
equally pugid years. There is actually no difference outside of

(02:03:58):
the perception that the Giants have their stuff together than
the Jets don't. And over the last decade it's not true.
It's just not true. And Eli Manning, by the way,
it's been the quarterback the entire time, and everybody's gotten
fired except Eli Manning. I'm not telling Eli Manning stinks.
I'm just telling your image of Eli Manning had he
not played way above his level. And like the last

(02:04:20):
time I won Super Bowl, that was a nine and
seven team. The first time they won a Super Bowl
that was a twelve and four team, again dominant defenses,
and he played great in both those two Super Bowls,
but they won because their defensive lines. Anyway, I there
is that there's an assumption that the Giants are always

(02:04:40):
better than the Jets, when the truth is that even
though the Jets are the second team in that building,
they're not that much different. Although I do believe that
the Giants should be much better this year, I think
the Jets have a chance to position themselves to be
better for a long, longer period of time, with a better,
a long term situation at quarterback, and with ninety million

(02:05:03):
dollars estimated in cap roomin years to come. All right,
get more reaction to the Oldell Beckham junior contract. Also,
Aaron Donald supposed to sign his contract at any moment,
and we'll see what happens to Khalil Mack. We're getting
closer and closer. Game weekend college football, Willie Tagger, Cliff
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