August 28, 2018 • 36 mins
Doug tells you why Jerry Jones is starting the negotiations with NFL players by suggesting the NFL change to an 18 game regular season. He also argues the Patriots will be just fine this season despite their issues at wide receiver. And Florida State head coach Willie Taggart joins the show to discuss his expectations for the season and competing against Clemson.
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I hope you're having a great day. I hope you
have begun the negotiations without beginning the negotiations. That's what
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we're gonna start with today, which is what you should
be starting with. You gotta position yourself, folks, position yourselves
for future negotiations. That's what Jerry Jones is doing, and
that's what you need to do. What do you need
to do? Hey, whether it's Thursday night football or Saturday
or Sunday or Monday. I don't know if you're East
coast or your West coast, but it doesn't really matter.
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The negotiations should be underway, even if they're not yet underway.
Here's what I mean. Are you aware of the upcoming
football schedule? Are you? How? How a where are you
of it? Here's your nights? If you care anything about football?
And and I never understand the whole I'm an NFL God,
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don't watch college I'm a college guy to watch the NFL.
Like Okay, I like US Open tennis. But if I
gave you the choice of US Open tennis or college football,
and you're an NFL guy, which will you choose? San
Diego State Stanford on Friday night? Saturday night? Now it
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gets good. Saturday night, Saturday midday you have Tennessee, West
Virginia and Saturday night you got Michigan, Notre Dame, Louisville, Alabama.
Sunday night Miami l s U Monday night Virginia Tech,
Florida State. Whoa college football knows what the f they're doing,
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don't they? They're like, look, we understand that some of
you are going to be split coming up right. Some
of you're gonna be like, I got NFL. I got
NFL Thursday at NFL, Sunday got NFL Monday, I got
a lot of stuff to do. We need to announce
our presents like Nukela Lush with authority. So we're gonna
give you Notre Dame, Michigan, Louisville, Alabama, Miami, l s U,
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Virginia Tech, Florida State. And here's what the negotiations should be.
You don't start negotiating on Saturday morning for Saturday night
with your wife. Hollly, don't worry. I got all this Saturday.
Uh yeah, listen at four thirty or at seven thirty.
I'm gonna need to check out a little bit for football.
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Which you need to be doing is earning up that equity,
earning up that equity. N listen this afternoon. You need
to go get that haircut. You should do that Wednesday.
It's me ladies night. You should do that. You should
do you should do that. It's good, it's good. It's
a good idea. School getting back in another with the kids.
And you're starting the process of negotiating without actually negotiation.
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Don't ask for anything back in return, anything back in return.
You just go. You just go. Hey, you know Norty
is they still have I know the anniversary sale is done,
but they still have a bunch of stuff on sale,
like you should check that stuff out that way. When
the negotiations actually started Friday night, you gonnamorrow listen, um
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the ball game on four thirty Notre Dame Michigan. Really
want to watch it? Oh? Okay, well that sounds reasonable. Listen, Um,
I got some things to do in the morning. You
gotta go to home, deep on bed, bath and behind
it like that sounds good, sounds like a good Saturday
soccer game by fallball, baseball, football, whatever you how to
do you do that Saturday than Saturday night. You're like, huh,
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I still have children and a wife. Fine, how watching football?
That's how it works. So Jerry Jones is doing so
the owners are doing. What have we heard about the
players this entire offseason in preseason? Man, we need longer.
We need fully guaranteed contracts, fully guaranteed contracts. We need
more money. You gotta be more money, whether it's whether
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it's Odell Beckham Jr. Who just got more money, Or
Aaron Donald who's gonna get more money, or clear Mac
and we'd all assume it's gonna get more money. We
just don't know who he's going to get that money from.
Everybody wants more money. Everybody wants more guaranteed deals, more more, more, more,
more more more. Here's Jerry Jones on one oh five
point three The Fan in Dallas giving his thoughts on
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a potential new NFL schedule. My solution is real simple,
is cut back on preseason games. Have one at each
team's home, play a couple of them, and then you
need to add two games to the regular season, which
I've been a proponent of for several years. It's probably
physically better for players than it is to have the
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longer preseason, the longer practicing. Our studies show that we
actually have a ramped up injury situation with players during preseason.
Now are our studies show that even though most of
these injuries occurred to guys that aren't going to make
the NFL, and that most of you don't play, most
of the guys that matter don't play in two preseason games.
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Our studies show that by and large, what I told
you years ago about eighteen game schedule is in fact right.
All this is is Jerry Jones laying down the path
for negotiations. He knows the NFL players want more money.
He knows they want more they want. They want more,
higher percentage of that money guaranteed. He knows the player
association wants deeper rosters, more guys, more jobs, more money, more, more,
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more more. Listen, I got the path, the more money
for me. You hate those preseason games. I hate the
preseason games. Hey, uh, I've been telling you eighteen games
for years. But this isn't about money. It's not about
me making more money. No. No, it's not about the
owners making more money. No. He never mentioned that. He
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never mentioned it's not about all of us owners making
more money or about increased TV deals. Noope, this is
about a players safety and issue. We got you. Preseason
games a nuisance. We got you players and their emotions
tell them they deserve longer, guaranteed, more financially acceptable deals.
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We got you. This is about you, just this is
my solution to your problems. Players are dealing on personal emotions.
Owners are businessmen, and everything in life is a negotiation,
isn't it. You know? You know, go say with your wife,
you negotiate with your kids. Hell, you even negotiate with
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with uh, with somebody who you're talking with the parking spot,
you do? I jam it in really close to this
parking spot to where I have to walk five you know,
five floors less? Or do I go around a couple
of times? Negotiations there's given take and players saying we
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want fully guaranteed contracts is never going to happen, and
owners saying they want eighteen games, it's probably never gonna happen,
and and fans saying we don't want to pay for
preseason games is never gonna happen. And somewhere in the
middle is where life actually exists. You give us this,
we'll give you that. You want fully vested, fully guaranteed contracts. Cool,
I'm about eighteen games now, we don't want that. Okay,
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what if? What if you're vested as a veteran after
three years instead of after four or actually five years,
we reduce some of the right handwriting within the franchise
player tag. Okay, that's cool, we'll do that if you
give us a teen games. This is just negotiation, that's all.
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I don't actually think it doesn't matter in terms of football,
right it doesn't. I think owners the part that they're
not saying is, look, we have to have ten home
dates in our home stadiums. That's the way we keep
the lights on. That's how we have to do it.
It's only ten ho we have minimum of ten home
dates at our stadium. That's what we need to just
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break even. That's how stadiums are built. It's like one
of the great misconceptions about what should there be public financing, like, oh,
there shouldn't be public financing. Owners that they do, they
will make a ton of money if they lay out
all the money on the stadium. They're also gonna want
to have all the land or have all the tax benefits, unless,
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of course, cities want to make that money and cities
benefit greatly from it. This is the big great miscons
option with San Diego. I love San Diego. San Diego,
you have a new downtown, beautiful stadium, just like Petco
pet goes incredible. Imagine if there was a sister stadium
or a big brother stadium sitting somewhere next to it,
they had a football stadium, every event would want to
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be there. And the idea that that approach sports franchise
is supposed to shell out a bunch of money when
they only use it ten times a year. Think about
that for a second. You want to spend how a
billion dollars on something you're gonna use ten times a year. Wow,
that's a luxury purchase. So all of this stuff is negotiation.
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The eighteen game schedule isn't gonna come to fruition if
it ever happens until two thou twenties. And the truth
is it is probably never gonna happen because he can
give us all the data he wants about the high
number of concussions that occur in the preseason. But the
only thing you got to think about how many quarterbacks,
how many important players were hurt last year in the NFC,
And we're only talking about a sixteen game schedule. Come in,
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logic tells you that two more regular season games, which
gives you a higher likelihood of injury to important players.
And you can fill out the rest of the roster
with offensive lineman and defensive lineman for the war of attrition.
But there just aren't that many good quarterbacks. They just
aren't that many good running backs. They just aren't that
many good wide receivers, period. So and begin the negotiations
with your wife for significant others today. Don't start Saturday,
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because you're gonna get shut down because by Saturday, her
plans for Saturday afternoon Saturday evening are made. No no, no no,
no no no no no no no no no. Listen,
I've been planning all week. We're going over to the
Smith's house. They're having people over. It's little Jenny's birthday.
You're gonna come. And if the game is on, the
game is on, right, there's nothing worse than you're like,
oh my god, we're going to the one house that
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doesn't like football, right, or they hate Notre Dame so
much they will not watch the Notre Dame game. When
you walk into house and I've done this before and
you were just like, hey, do you mind if I
put the game on? And they say, what gay, You're
the wrong house. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug Dot Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern three
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pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio ah AP. Let's welcome in Willie Taggert, the new
head coach at Florida State, first coach, Happy birthday, one day, belated,
Thank you very much. I appreciate that, buddy. Does it
does it feel like home yet? Um? Yeah? Because I'm familiar. Um,
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I would say from that dandpoint but and I feel
like home because I'm not playing on go anywhere else. No,
I understand that, but I did notice the pause, like
it's it takes a little bit of time to where
you know you can you could you can drive the
roads of Tallahassee, or when you're at Tampa or when
you're at Western. I'm sure you go Bowling Green Kentucky.
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You I could blindfold you. You could find your way.
You can find your way to the stadium, couldn't you. Ah, yeah,
you can. That think it's very similar here in Tallahassee too.
It's not a big city, you know, it's pretty small,
and you can get to a lot of plays. I
tell you why. Thing about Tallahassee. Now there's so many lights,
so it's about a mile away. But to take you
about ten minutes to get there with all the light, well,
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I just tell you this. Listen, you beat Clemson when
the a sec you pull, you pull local sheriff in
side and said, hey, listen, could we get it where
it's like six D a M. I get a straight shot.
I guarantee those lights with you. All you gotta do
is when when the Sugar Bowl? When when a big
ball game? And I guarantee that will happen. Tell me,
I'm tell me I'm wrong. You're right. Willie Tiggers joining
us on the Doug Gottlives Show, take me through DeAndre
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for the decision to start DeAndre Francois in the opener
last year. Of course, we saw him suffer through a
tragic knee injury because he's such an electric talent. How
close was the call for you? Um? It was? It
was close. I mean we had a really good battle
throughout training camp. Those guys are really working hard. But
I think when we looked at the overall work and
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and just when those guys are in there with eleven
on eleven and just watching how to offense flows and
watching guys that makes the least mistakes. Um, DeAndre was
that guy, and um we felt like he was the
best one for us going forward as a quarterback yourself,
what are the conversation has been like in terms of
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how much you're gonna put him in harm's way where
he hasn't seen live contact, you know, he hasn't seen
those live bullets and suffering the knee injury. Well, we
just talk about being smart and and they always know
where the good and the bad things are, you know,
the things that that can hurt what we're doing offensively
or things that, uh, things that can get you in
those situations. You know. Um, we don't talk a lot
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about I tell him about slide and he gotta learn
and know how to slide. I think that's important playing
the quarterback position. But um, I think when it comes
to the injury is hard to avoid a lot of
those things just playing ball. He just trying to be
smart with the football and understand your job is to
make it back to the line of scrimmage. You know.
The quarterback we've we've only like, look in my lifetime,
has only been to two head coaches at Florida State, right, Um,
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and so we're used to Florida State looking a certain way.
Of course they were the one and so really brought
you know, fast It was like was a fast break
on turf back when uh back Charlie Ward was there, right,
So they were like everybody credits different people for the
spread and for tempo, but Florida State really kind of
brought that into uh into mainstream football. I guess my
question is, how's a Willie Taggart coached Florida State team
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gonna look in comparisons to Jimbo's or or previous previous
Florida State teams. UM, I think again, you won't to
see us huddle. You know you've seen Florid State in
the past day huddle. You won't see us holding UM.
You see us UM dictate the tempo that we want
to play with. UM. I think you probably see some
of the same places. I think when you look around
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and college football, everybody's run the same place. We just
kind of get to it differently. So I see you'll
see us doing those things differently than some formations UM
that you probably hadn't seen as much. You'll see the
old as well. I don't want to disrespect it anyway.
You're Alba model Western Kentucky, which at their level has
been a tremendous program, and you turn that thing around.
Nor do I want to do it to South Florida.
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They had success. We're Oregon, of course has played for
national championship, but Florida State is part of college football royalty.
And be Remissy didn't mention, like, look at the first
African American permanent head coach in the history of Florida
State football. Any sense of what that's gonna feel like
when you walk on the field with that FSU emblazoned
on your chest as the head coach at Florida State
on Saturday. Um, it's gonna be fun. It's it's a
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place where I always wanted to be and um, you
finally get to that spot and now it's it's go time.
It's competitive time, and I know there's gonna be a
lot of energy, everyone excited, and I'll be excited. But
I think once you run out of the tunnel, you
get to the sidelines and it's kind of back to normal.
Is just just playing ball and and and coaching and
locking into the game plan and in what you gotta
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um get accomplished. I think has been the first African
American coach here. Um, I know for me personal, it
was that way everywhere I've been, whether it's West and
South Florida, Oregon. So that then, um doing anything really
other than you know, just trying to be the best
coach you can be and go ahead and try to
wear a ball game. Virginia Tech, Florida State, we're the
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same age, so I'm I'm sure we took it the
same way. When when I think of those two teams
matched up. I think of Mike Vick seemingly a one
man show beamer ball playing against Florida State and that
and that what you think of. Oh yeah, it was
a big time ball game. I know the first half there,
Michael Vick was it was unstoppable and it was it
was good to see op Award come and say the
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day for then and in the second half. So are
you gonna be conducting interviews while the games going on,
like which Bowden used to Uh No, I don't think
I'll be doing that. Uh How how does having such
it's not just a Virginia Tech game out of the shoot,
it's a conference game for your first game? How does
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that change your How does that change your approach here
in the fall and prepping like there's no like you
don't play Northern or Sandford, you don't play those kind
of lead up games. You could play the young guys
and you could try some things and hide some things.
How does it change your prep for this game? Well?
I think I think the thing we do more and
now it is stressed the fact that it is a
conference game. You know, it's still the first game opponent,
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and there's something you. There's some unknowns out there, you know.
But um, for us, we just gotta go out and
and try to execute our our offense, defense and special
team the best of our abilities and and play a
good sound football or not lose a game. And um, again,
it's a conference game and we stress it more unlike
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other games with out of conference and but this is big,
this is part of our goals and things we want
to get accomplished this year. And um, there's no there's
no warm up, you know, you start off end the
fire with with with with a team that could possibly
be playing in a conference championship game as well, no quid,
no question. I mean, and and your schedule votech at home,
Clemson at home, but you go to places like Louisville,
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to Miami, to Notre Dame and then of course you
end the season against in state rival Florida. Like hat
is right into the fire. There's no soft on this schedule. Okay,
So I read the CBS Sports dot Com Name Coaches
article and you garnered the highest percentage of votes for
coaches overrated coaches. I'm sure you've read it and been
asked about it. I just wondered, what's your response, How
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how you took that when you read that article? Um,
I didn't read the article, but I was told that
I was voted as overrated coach by some of my peers.
And UM, how laugh because I'm sure some of those
peers I don't even know. UM, I don't talk to
and UM if I listened to any people like that,
I wouldn't be in this position that I'm in. Stan
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Wilcox is gonna leave and go to the n c A.
He's a man who hired you Florid State Athletic director.
He's going to work for the n c A. UM.
What's the feeling like when a guy who had enough
faith in you to bring you home to give you
a chance to run this program? Uh, then comes in
and says, hey, I just want you to know I'm
gonna take a job with the n c A. UM.
I mean he's doing was best for him and his
family and standing to a great job while he was here.
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And again, I I'm in debt to stand for bringing
me here and to be the head football coach here.
And I know he'll do a good job and n
C double A as well. I would tell you this, Doug,
just me and my young head coaching experience, I've kind
of experienced some of everything. I've experienced this at two
of the jobs I've been at, you know, Western Kentucky
in South Florida. So um, I will say my trip
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here kind of really helped me with all these different experiences.
No question, everything along the way prepares you for the
moment that you are today. Last thing, everybody's gonna talk
about DeAndre and the offense. The truth is that when
Florida State is really good, you got dudes flying around
out there on defense. But of course, you know, offensive
styles have changed. Give me the sense of what you
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were left with, what you've been able to add in
to this nold defense. Well, we uh, we have some talent.
You know, we're young. We're really young on on the
defense side of the ball. And really as a football team,
we have a young football team. And um, but I
know upfront, I think we we have some really good depth.
UM really really happy to our d line. Um secondary,
we have depth, and and then a linebacker we just inexperienced.
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We have some guys they're just inexperience. And the only
way you can get it is by getting in the
fire and and and going. But like you said, when
we're really good is when we have a good defense,
and I think ben simple and allowing these guys just
to play football will help. You. Can't wait to see
you the Knowls on Labor Day at night. Joke Walker
you on the sideline against Virginia Tech. Wish you the
best of luck, coach. Thanks so much for joining us
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on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, thank you very much for
having me on. Do you have a great day if
you want to? Happy birthday again. Hey, thank you, buddy.
Willie Tagger joining us on The Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live edition
so The Doug Got Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern
three pm Pacific. Jordan Palmer trained some of the top
quarterbacks in the country at the QB Summit at QB
Summit on Instagram or at Jordan Palmer. He joins us
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in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Trade's gonna
join us in a moment. Quarterback is the premier position
in football. It's becoming increasingly important because you can't lay
a hand on the quarterbacks, and now that we're seeing
younger quarterbacks, really I'm wondering if it's a good thing
or a bad thing to see some of these guys play. Right.
It seems like Donald's gonna start right away. It seems
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like that's a plan. Jordan, you think Sam's Sam is
It's not necessarily he's ready to start. Does he have
a team around him that can protect him and allow
him to really learn instead of running for his life? Well,
you know, I think that the college game in the
NFL game is different enough where it's it's give me
the point. It's almost a different sport, uh, from college
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quarterback to NFL quarterback. So you know, I don't think
any any college kip coming out is just jumps in
ready to play, but it's can they find success in
an early age. The reason I say it's a different
sport is largely because of the communication flow. So in college,
if you think about it, like this weekend, watch college
football games, You'll see all eleven guys on offense, look
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to the sideline, will be a big card holding up
with funny pictures on it, and then everyone will kind
of look at the card, get to play, and then
the quarterback will clap from gun, never see the ball,
and they go. But in the NFL you're getting it
through the headset. You're repeating that him from if you're
hearing a long play call, you're repeating that long play call.
One of these guys breaks the huddle was like, wait,
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what is it? You explained to him? Then you got
to decipher the defense this so this, the communication is
so much more comprehensive in the NFL than it is
in college, which is that's the ultimate game. It's not
can they catch up at the speed of the game
or is there arm strong enough? It's can they actually
receive and then disseminate that level of information in a
timely manner. Okay, so let me let me get back
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to Sam Donald. Everyone seems to be blown away by
his ability to process all that information like like a
computer and then put it into play on the field,
considering he wasn't doing that last year and he hasn't
not like he's been a starting quarterback all that long, right,
Like he didn't play quarterback the whole time when he's
in high school and he only started for a year
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and three quarters at USC. But let's go back. His
offensive line stinks. Wide receiving Corps average tight end tight
end position probably bottom five in the NFL running back.
Same thing, like, do you feel comfortable with Sam Donald
going out there taking a beating and learning on the job,
considering his supporting cast. Well, I mean, I think I'm
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confident in what Sam brings to the table physically and
what we've seen a pattern here of the rookies that
play well the rookie year, A lot of it is
tied to their ability to extend the play. And that
may be because they didn't really it didn't hit him right,
or they didn't read it quick enough, or they didn't
get their eyes to the right place at the right
time until they have to extend the play, or the
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receivers can't get open they're running back Mr Protection or
they're all warning camp blot. And it is really a
combination of the two right and and so a quarterbacks
ability to extend the play. And that does not mean
running a four three and getting the edge and diving
for a first down. I mean Tom Brady extends to
play by shuffling to the right one step at the
perfect time. So the rookies that are playing well, they
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are extending the play and it's given them an opportunity
to continue to make decisions and get to fall out
of their hands and deliver it actively. So Sam's game
naturally translates that, just like I worked with the Shaun
Watson to here before and his that his game naturally
translated to what he did put on the field in Houston.
I watched the tape of the song. He didn't read
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every play right, he didn't know the offense as well
as Bill o'briyan, but he made it happen, and a
lot of it was extending to play. So I think
I don't disagree with your assessment of the Jets, and
it's too early. I don't agree either, but I do
believe I do have a lot of confidence in Sam's
ability to extend the play and and find a positive
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outcome at the end of every play. Okay, so let's
let's go to Deshaun Watson. You mentioned his ability to
extend to play, but now he suffered two A C
L injuries. How much should that change his approach? Zero?
Absolutely none, he changed. He bruising out of freshman yor college,
played the exact same way um and was asked to
do a lot more physically. I mean he was, he
was getting carries in college. He wasn't running the ball,
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he was getting carries. UM. I don't think it changes
the thing, um, the way he plays. He's going to
continue to get smarter on when to get down and
um and when to throw it away, just because quarterbacks do.
I I have a belief that quarterbacks get really good
at the things that they have to do to survive.
And with Peyton Manning at the end of his career,
that was being unbelievable pre snap because at the end
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he couldn't throw it that great and he couldn't move
that great, so he had to be He had to
get his play in his team in the perfect play
every snap. And with Sean last year, it was moving around,
buying time, making it happen. His old line struggled named
the tight end for these Houston Texans. He had star
power other places, but it was the same thing. It
was buying time, extending the play. Uh. And I think
that that part is not going to change. He'll just
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continue to get smarter and more mature in his game
as it pertains to win, how to protect himself. But
I don't think it changes anything. I just I think
Sean just just taking my crazy I said on TV
it was like two weeks ago. I was like, look,
I think he can change kind of the quarterback position
because of his ability to use what some have deemed
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a college offense or high school offense be successful with it. Um,
come back from a knee injury. He's got an incredible
leadership quality. Asked anybody who's been around him. Um, he
he learns as he goes, He continues to learn, continues
to evolve as a player. I'm buying the stock of
Deshaun Watson even after the injury. Am I crazy to
do so? No? You know if you if you were
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like it blindfolded me last season and didn't tell me
how he did on the field, I would have the
same answer. I didn't say this publicly, Davos Sweeney I said,
but I definitely said it to a couple of teams.
Davis what he's right, kids, Michael Jordan's I know how
like bold that is and all that stuff. I'm just saying,
people don't think the way to Sean thinks. When he adversity,
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He when he plays his plays Alabama back to back years,
that's not adversity to him. Adversity is how he grew up.
Adversity was the first seventeen years of his life. So
when he plays Obama or last year at Seattle, he
goes off at New England's second start, goes off. His
defense lost both those games for them. They allowed the quarterback,
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the posing quarterback, to drive down and score a touchdown
in the two minutes later. Otherwise he's two and oh
and those two games. The way he thinks, the way
he processes information. What I had said all along during
the draft process is as good of a college player is,
he's going to be a significantly better pro. And the
reason is not because he has an elite arm, or
he's enormous or he's super fast. He's not. His physical
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comp is Alex Smith. He's the same size, similar arm, talent.
They both ran high for sex low course seven. Like
he that's his comp. But mentally he thinks about the
world differently. He genuinely believes he's the greiout athlete on
the planet. But he's so humble and likable and smiles
so much that you don't really a lot of people
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don't pick up on that killer instanc until they get
the huddle with them. And then the part that I
got a disposure to and the reason I says you
be a better pro and college player is because he
is one of these smartest players I've ever worked with.
He was on honor role in third grade all the
way through teams list at Clemson, and he graduated in
less than three years, and he did all the work himself.
So he's actually off the charts intelligence. And in college.
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You know, at Clemson, the plays some of them were
really really simple. You know, f mode of red right boomer,
just a couple of words. But in Billibrian's offense, it's
super comprehensive. So the reason I say he's a better
pro college player is because he has more resources. Now
Bill can give him to plays, run past check with me,
away from rocation, run the ball to the shade like
he has. He has more options and more resources. And
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I think he's he's even gonna peaked for three or
four years, and I think in the meantime he's gonna ball.
Jordan Palm are joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show
Fox Sports Radio. Baker Mayfield struggled as of late look
good early, Um, I don't know. To me, I talked
to all these in felt people, They're like, look, he
processes it's super fast. He is a good leader. He's
just little, not a great athlete, and his arm has
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some pop, but it's not like he's He's not like
he's Russell Wilson back there. What are your thoughts on
what we've seen from Baker so far? You know, I
think the Baker is a hard one to gage, but
I'm under the impression with quarterbacks in general, that confidence
is the most important straight in the quarterback because it's
actually the root of everything. Everything can get boiled down
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to are you confident enough in your ability to do
that or not? And because of where Baker is from
the confidence standpoint, and I think there's two types of confidence.
There's self generated confidence and there's reactionary confidence. Reactionary confidences
you believe everything that everybody says about you. If everyone
says you're awesome, you think you're awesome. If everybody thinks
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you're a bum, you doubt yourself. Self generated confidence is
the type of confidence where it doesn't even matter what
anybody says about you. You You building certain things about yourself.
Baker is off the are on self generated confidence. And
I am only saying this in a positive light. This
is this is an amazing thing. If I had a
drill for this, I'd make free kids do it um
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because of where he's at on that spectrum, his arm
is better than everybody thinks. He's athletic enough to extend
the play. But because his confidence is where he is,
I just I find it really hard to be against him.
I think the situation is interesting. You know, he's at
the beginning of his career. I talked about this with
Colin Cowher's lastly. His coaching staff is a lot of
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them are on a when year day, so theoretically or
figure or or realistically, so there's a lot of interesting
aspects of what's happening in Cleveland right now that may
or may not they work for or against him. But
the reality is he's such a unique character in terms
of the confidence that he plays with, how he shows
up on game day are just He's just a guy
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that I'm just not going to bet against. And my
bet is that he figures it out. He surprises everybody,
just like he did at Texas Tack in Oklahoma. I
mean again, let give us a walk on twice, pis
and finalists three times. No, it's I don't know that
we'll see it again. It's it's it's really really remarkable.
Jordan Palmer joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here
here on Fox Sports Radio at QB Summit. You can
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follow him on Instagram or at Jordan Palmer as well.
I want to ask you about a couple of college kids,
because this is a purely college weekend. Let's start with
a guy that everyone in the SEC knows a little
bit about. I think people nationally are gonna learn about. UM,
give me your sense for your expectations. And Drew Lock.
You know, Drew is one of those guys you're just
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flown under the radar most people. People are football things.
I don't know who he is, but I'm gonna get
this wrong, so somebody check this. But I think he
let the sk broken SEC record for yards last year.
He's done some things that are um that are are
there upper restelan and record breaking. If these stays healthy
all these games. Who have more starts than any SEC quarterback.
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So's a couple of these little things where you go, man,
that's interesting. But he plays in Missouri. Um, I'm excited
to watch him have big moments against big teams. UM,
I don't know how what the team's gonna look like
this year. I don't know a ton about Missouri and
defense at the program and all that stuff, um, but
in terms of individual talent um, you know, Drew and
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among two or three other guys at the standards this
year in the SEC. And if I'm if I'm a
big SEC, if I'm Obama on Auburn, any of those fans,
I'm certainly concerned with playing Missouri because they do have
a quarterback who can score as many points as possible
and confidence wise, UH is gonna feel like the best
player on the field and it's gonna play accordingly. And
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I'm fired up for for Drew's name to kind of
cast fire and to watch everybody's help on the span.
Dam all right, you mentioned Auburn and how they should
feel they got Jared's didn't who of course transferred in
from Baylor. They opened up this weekend with Washington. Huge
game for you, Dubney, kind of the entire pack twelve
UH and and their legitimacy on the line. UH. Sindham
had some moments last year, but then he had some
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moments of just being Okay, what are your thoughts on
what we expect from him this season. Well, I'm excited
for Jared because, um, you know, with carry On Johnson,
they're running back last year leaving and he accounted for
a lot of touches for them, made up a lot
of their offense. It's putting you know, gust Mill's on it.
He just all he wants to do is run the
football every single play, run it twice on the play
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if he could. Um, you know, he's in a position
now with carry On leaving, Jarrett taking on a leader,
you know, more of the leadership role on owning the offense.
Got some really talented receivers where they're gonna have to
throw it more. Um and UH and the Auburn Tigers
allowing Jarrett to control more of the offense is a
really good thing. He's really talented, UH, really good understanding
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of the game. He's played in two different systems. Chip
lindsay that that offensive coordinator very cerebral, great decision. Um.
So I'm excited to watch Auburn from run heavy. So
hopefully putting more on Jarret because he's certainly capable of being,
uh the best quarterback in the country and UH and
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the top pick in next year's draft. I see crews
right there, both those guys. The conversation about both two guys,
last one is is j T. Daniels And look, your
brother obviously starred there and he he kind of reinvigorated,
you know, the the luster of the quarterback position. But
we've seen Orange County kids, Tom Rinovich say what you
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want about what happened with drugs and alcohol after after
USC and maybe sometimes during USC, but that was with Raiders.
He was a spectacular talent with SC. We've seen Mark Sanchez,
We've seen Matt Barkley, Um, We've seen Matt Leinert Um.
J T. Daniels could be in high school as a senior. Instead,
he's the starting quarterback at USC. Who of those Alzheimer's
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at SC as he liked uh not of him? And
and I'm really trying to control expectations. I've turned down
a lot of interviews about j C. I do not
want to create expectations. I definitely feel he's on a
different trajectory than anybody I've ever been around. And I
started working with him in the seventh grade, and I
don't really work with seventh graders. I noticed some unique
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traits very early on. None of them were physical, all mental,
the way that he thinks about the game, the commitment
that he has to the game, and he has a
giant head start. He has been around a lot of
the best quarterbacks in the world, so perfect example, last
year he won gatoray Player of the Year and Deshaun Watson,
through a video conference, presented them the award. It's a
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Gator appearance for DeShawn. It's a normal thing. Any high
school kid would think that is the coolest thing in
the world. When that happened, he had thrown with the
Shawn that my stuff forty times. This guy has been
exposed to so much good football for so many years,
and he's just for eighteen. He is just thinking about
the things the right way. So I've been around Carson
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in Sanchez and Barkley and all these guys and Leinert.
JT is in a unique position where he actually I
don't like he has no ceiling and before is really high.
So I don't want to I'm not making predictions or anything,
but I do have a feeling he's gonna be one
of the best players in the country this year. A
great stuff. As always, Jorge, I can talk football with
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you all the time. Matter of fact, I need to
shoot up to your your office, it's literally five minutes
from my house. Well, i'll do so. I know in
the coming weeks I'll do so. I'll grab some You
tell what kind of coffee I'll grab it. We'll talk
Paul in the meantime. Thanks for joining us Jordan Palmer
at QB Summit.
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I hope you're having a great day. I hope you
have begun the negotiations without beginning the negotiations. That's what
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we're gonna start with today, which is what you should
be starting with. You gotta position yourself, folks, position yourselves
for future negotiations. That's what Jerry Jones is doing, and
that's what you need to do. What do you need
to do? Hey, whether it's Thursday night football or Saturday
or Sunday or Monday. I don't know if you're East
coast or your West coast, but it doesn't really matter.
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The negotiations should be underway, even if they're not yet underway.
Here's what I mean. Are you aware of the upcoming
football schedule? Are you? How? How a where are you
of it? Here's your nights? If you care anything about football?
And and I never understand the whole I'm an NFL God,
(01:29):
don't watch college I'm a college guy to watch the NFL.
Like Okay, I like US Open tennis. But if I
gave you the choice of US Open tennis or college football,
and you're an NFL guy, which will you choose? San
Diego State Stanford on Friday night? Saturday night? Now it
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gets good. Saturday night, Saturday midday you have Tennessee, West
Virginia and Saturday night you got Michigan, Notre Dame, Louisville, Alabama.
Sunday night Miami l s U Monday night Virginia Tech,
Florida State. Whoa college football knows what the f they're doing,
(02:15):
don't they? They're like, look, we understand that some of
you are going to be split coming up right. Some
of you're gonna be like, I got NFL. I got
NFL Thursday at NFL, Sunday got NFL Monday, I got
a lot of stuff to do. We need to announce
our presents like Nukela Lush with authority. So we're gonna
give you Notre Dame, Michigan, Louisville, Alabama, Miami, l s U,
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Virginia Tech, Florida State. And here's what the negotiations should be.
You don't start negotiating on Saturday morning for Saturday night
with your wife. Hollly, don't worry. I got all this Saturday.
Uh yeah, listen at four thirty or at seven thirty.
I'm gonna need to check out a little bit for football.
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Which you need to be doing is earning up that equity,
earning up that equity. N listen this afternoon. You need
to go get that haircut. You should do that Wednesday.
It's me ladies night. You should do that. You should
do you should do that. It's good, it's good. It's
a good idea. School getting back in another with the kids.
And you're starting the process of negotiating without actually negotiation.
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Don't ask for anything back in return, anything back in return.
You just go. You just go. Hey, you know Norty
is they still have I know the anniversary sale is done,
but they still have a bunch of stuff on sale,
like you should check that stuff out that way. When
the negotiations actually started Friday night, you gonnamorrow listen, um
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the ball game on four thirty Notre Dame Michigan. Really
want to watch it? Oh? Okay, well that sounds reasonable. Listen, Um,
I got some things to do in the morning. You
gotta go to home, deep on bed, bath and behind
it like that sounds good, sounds like a good Saturday
soccer game by fallball, baseball, football, whatever you how to
do you do that Saturday than Saturday night. You're like, huh,
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I still have children and a wife. Fine, how watching football?
That's how it works. So Jerry Jones is doing so
the owners are doing. What have we heard about the
players this entire offseason in preseason? Man, we need longer.
We need fully guaranteed contracts, fully guaranteed contracts. We need
more money. You gotta be more money, whether it's whether
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it's Odell Beckham Jr. Who just got more money, Or
Aaron Donald who's gonna get more money, or clear Mac
and we'd all assume it's gonna get more money. We
just don't know who he's going to get that money from.
Everybody wants more money. Everybody wants more guaranteed deals, more more, more, more,
more more more. Here's Jerry Jones on one oh five
point three The Fan in Dallas giving his thoughts on
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a potential new NFL schedule. My solution is real simple,
is cut back on preseason games. Have one at each
team's home, play a couple of them, and then you
need to add two games to the regular season, which
I've been a proponent of for several years. It's probably
physically better for players than it is to have the
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longer preseason, the longer practicing. Our studies show that we
actually have a ramped up injury situation with players during preseason.
Now are our studies show that even though most of
these injuries occurred to guys that aren't going to make
the NFL, and that most of you don't play, most
of the guys that matter don't play in two preseason games.
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Our studies show that by and large, what I told
you years ago about eighteen game schedule is in fact right.
All this is is Jerry Jones laying down the path
for negotiations. He knows the NFL players want more money.
He knows they want more they want. They want more,
higher percentage of that money guaranteed. He knows the player
association wants deeper rosters, more guys, more jobs, more money, more, more,
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more more. Listen, I got the path, the more money
for me. You hate those preseason games. I hate the
preseason games. Hey, uh, I've been telling you eighteen games
for years. But this isn't about money. It's not about
me making more money. No. No, it's not about the
owners making more money. No. He never mentioned that. He
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never mentioned it's not about all of us owners making
more money or about increased TV deals. Noope, this is
about a players safety and issue. We got you. Preseason
games a nuisance. We got you players and their emotions
tell them they deserve longer, guaranteed, more financially acceptable deals.
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We got you. This is about you, just this is
my solution to your problems. Players are dealing on personal emotions.
Owners are businessmen, and everything in life is a negotiation,
isn't it. You know? You know, go say with your wife,
you negotiate with your kids. Hell, you even negotiate with
(07:02):
with uh, with somebody who you're talking with the parking spot,
you do? I jam it in really close to this
parking spot to where I have to walk five you know,
five floors less? Or do I go around a couple
of times? Negotiations there's given take and players saying we
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want fully guaranteed contracts is never going to happen, and
owners saying they want eighteen games, it's probably never gonna happen,
and and fans saying we don't want to pay for
preseason games is never gonna happen. And somewhere in the
middle is where life actually exists. You give us this,
we'll give you that. You want fully vested, fully guaranteed contracts. Cool,
I'm about eighteen games now, we don't want that. Okay,
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what if? What if you're vested as a veteran after
three years instead of after four or actually five years,
we reduce some of the right handwriting within the franchise
player tag. Okay, that's cool, we'll do that if you
give us a teen games. This is just negotiation, that's all.
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I don't actually think it doesn't matter in terms of football,
right it doesn't. I think owners the part that they're
not saying is, look, we have to have ten home
dates in our home stadiums. That's the way we keep
the lights on. That's how we have to do it.
It's only ten ho we have minimum of ten home
dates at our stadium. That's what we need to just
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break even. That's how stadiums are built. It's like one
of the great misconceptions about what should there be public financing, like, oh,
there shouldn't be public financing. Owners that they do, they
will make a ton of money if they lay out
all the money on the stadium. They're also gonna want
to have all the land or have all the tax benefits, unless,
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of course, cities want to make that money and cities
benefit greatly from it. This is the big great miscons
option with San Diego. I love San Diego. San Diego,
you have a new downtown, beautiful stadium, just like Petco
pet goes incredible. Imagine if there was a sister stadium
or a big brother stadium sitting somewhere next to it,
they had a football stadium, every event would want to
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be there. And the idea that that approach sports franchise
is supposed to shell out a bunch of money when
they only use it ten times a year. Think about
that for a second. You want to spend how a
billion dollars on something you're gonna use ten times a year. Wow,
that's a luxury purchase. So all of this stuff is negotiation.
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The eighteen game schedule isn't gonna come to fruition if
it ever happens until two thou twenties. And the truth
is it is probably never gonna happen because he can
give us all the data he wants about the high
number of concussions that occur in the preseason. But the
only thing you got to think about how many quarterbacks,
how many important players were hurt last year in the NFC,
And we're only talking about a sixteen game schedule. Come in,
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logic tells you that two more regular season games, which
gives you a higher likelihood of injury to important players.
And you can fill out the rest of the roster
with offensive lineman and defensive lineman for the war of attrition.
But there just aren't that many good quarterbacks. They just
aren't that many good running backs. They just aren't that
many good wide receivers, period. So and begin the negotiations
with your wife for significant others today. Don't start Saturday,
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because you're gonna get shut down because by Saturday, her
plans for Saturday afternoon Saturday evening are made. No no, no no,
no no no no no no no no no. Listen,
I've been planning all week. We're going over to the
Smith's house. They're having people over. It's little Jenny's birthday.
You're gonna come. And if the game is on, the
game is on, right, there's nothing worse than you're like,
oh my god, we're going to the one house that
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doesn't like football, right, or they hate Notre Dame so
much they will not watch the Notre Dame game. When
you walk into house and I've done this before and
you were just like, hey, do you mind if I
put the game on? And they say, what gay, You're
the wrong house. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug Dot Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern three
(11:06):
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio ah AP. Let's welcome in Willie Taggert, the new
head coach at Florida State, first coach, Happy birthday, one day, belated,
Thank you very much. I appreciate that, buddy. Does it
does it feel like home yet? Um? Yeah? Because I'm familiar. Um,
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I would say from that dandpoint but and I feel
like home because I'm not playing on go anywhere else. No,
I understand that, but I did notice the pause, like
it's it takes a little bit of time to where
you know you can you could you can drive the
roads of Tallahassee, or when you're at Tampa or when
you're at Western. I'm sure you go Bowling Green Kentucky.
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You I could blindfold you. You could find your way.
You can find your way to the stadium, couldn't you. Ah, yeah,
you can. That think it's very similar here in Tallahassee too.
It's not a big city, you know, it's pretty small,
and you can get to a lot of plays. I
tell you why. Thing about Tallahassee. Now there's so many lights,
so it's about a mile away. But to take you
about ten minutes to get there with all the light, well,
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I just tell you this. Listen, you beat Clemson when
the a sec you pull, you pull local sheriff in
side and said, hey, listen, could we get it where
it's like six D a M. I get a straight shot.
I guarantee those lights with you. All you gotta do
is when when the Sugar Bowl? When when a big
ball game? And I guarantee that will happen. Tell me,
I'm tell me I'm wrong. You're right. Willie Tiggers joining
us on the Doug Gottlives Show, take me through DeAndre
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for the decision to start DeAndre Francois in the opener
last year. Of course, we saw him suffer through a
tragic knee injury because he's such an electric talent. How
close was the call for you? Um? It was? It
was close. I mean we had a really good battle
throughout training camp. Those guys are really working hard. But
I think when we looked at the overall work and
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and just when those guys are in there with eleven
on eleven and just watching how to offense flows and
watching guys that makes the least mistakes. Um, DeAndre was
that guy, and um we felt like he was the
best one for us going forward as a quarterback yourself,
what are the conversation has been like in terms of
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how much you're gonna put him in harm's way where
he hasn't seen live contact, you know, he hasn't seen
those live bullets and suffering the knee injury. Well, we
just talk about being smart and and they always know
where the good and the bad things are, you know,
the things that that can hurt what we're doing offensively
or things that, uh, things that can get you in
those situations. You know. Um, we don't talk a lot
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about I tell him about slide and he gotta learn
and know how to slide. I think that's important playing
the quarterback position. But um, I think when it comes
to the injury is hard to avoid a lot of
those things just playing ball. He just trying to be
smart with the football and understand your job is to
make it back to the line of scrimmage. You know.
The quarterback we've we've only like, look in my lifetime,
has only been to two head coaches at Florida State, right, Um,
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and so we're used to Florida State looking a certain way.
Of course they were the one and so really brought
you know, fast It was like was a fast break
on turf back when uh back Charlie Ward was there, right,
So they were like everybody credits different people for the
spread and for tempo, but Florida State really kind of
brought that into uh into mainstream football. I guess my
question is, how's a Willie Taggart coached Florida State team
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gonna look in comparisons to Jimbo's or or previous previous
Florida State teams. UM, I think again, you won't to
see us huddle. You know you've seen Florid State in
the past day huddle. You won't see us holding UM.
You see us UM dictate the tempo that we want
to play with. UM. I think you probably see some
of the same places. I think when you look around
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and college football, everybody's run the same place. We just
kind of get to it differently. So I see you'll
see us doing those things differently than some formations UM
that you probably hadn't seen as much. You'll see the
old as well. I don't want to disrespect it anyway.
You're Alba model Western Kentucky, which at their level has
been a tremendous program, and you turn that thing around.
Nor do I want to do it to South Florida.
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They had success. We're Oregon, of course has played for
national championship, but Florida State is part of college football royalty.
And be Remissy didn't mention, like, look at the first
African American permanent head coach in the history of Florida
State football. Any sense of what that's gonna feel like
when you walk on the field with that FSU emblazoned
on your chest as the head coach at Florida State
on Saturday. Um, it's gonna be fun. It's it's a
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place where I always wanted to be and um, you
finally get to that spot and now it's it's go time.
It's competitive time, and I know there's gonna be a
lot of energy, everyone excited, and I'll be excited. But
I think once you run out of the tunnel, you
get to the sidelines and it's kind of back to normal.
Is just just playing ball and and and coaching and
locking into the game plan and in what you gotta
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um get accomplished. I think has been the first African
American coach here. Um, I know for me personal, it
was that way everywhere I've been, whether it's West and
South Florida, Oregon. So that then, um doing anything really
other than you know, just trying to be the best
coach you can be and go ahead and try to
wear a ball game. Virginia Tech, Florida State, we're the
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same age, so I'm I'm sure we took it the
same way. When when I think of those two teams
matched up. I think of Mike Vick seemingly a one
man show beamer ball playing against Florida State and that
and that what you think of. Oh yeah, it was
a big time ball game. I know the first half there,
Michael Vick was it was unstoppable and it was it
was good to see op Award come and say the
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day for then and in the second half. So are
you gonna be conducting interviews while the games going on,
like which Bowden used to Uh No, I don't think
I'll be doing that. Uh How how does having such
it's not just a Virginia Tech game out of the shoot,
it's a conference game for your first game? How does
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that change your How does that change your approach here
in the fall and prepping like there's no like you
don't play Northern or Sandford, you don't play those kind
of lead up games. You could play the young guys
and you could try some things and hide some things.
How does it change your prep for this game? Well?
I think I think the thing we do more and
now it is stressed the fact that it is a
conference game. You know, it's still the first game opponent,
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and there's something you. There's some unknowns out there, you know.
But um, for us, we just gotta go out and
and try to execute our our offense, defense and special
team the best of our abilities and and play a
good sound football or not lose a game. And um, again,
it's a conference game and we stress it more unlike
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other games with out of conference and but this is big,
this is part of our goals and things we want
to get accomplished this year. And um, there's no there's
no warm up, you know, you start off end the
fire with with with with a team that could possibly
be playing in a conference championship game as well, no quid,
no question. I mean, and and your schedule votech at home,
Clemson at home, but you go to places like Louisville,
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to Miami, to Notre Dame and then of course you
end the season against in state rival Florida. Like hat
is right into the fire. There's no soft on this schedule. Okay,
So I read the CBS Sports dot Com Name Coaches
article and you garnered the highest percentage of votes for
coaches overrated coaches. I'm sure you've read it and been
asked about it. I just wondered, what's your response, How
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how you took that when you read that article? Um,
I didn't read the article, but I was told that
I was voted as overrated coach by some of my peers.
And UM, how laugh because I'm sure some of those
peers I don't even know. UM, I don't talk to
and UM if I listened to any people like that,
I wouldn't be in this position that I'm in. Stan
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Wilcox is gonna leave and go to the n c A.
He's a man who hired you Florid State Athletic director.
He's going to work for the n c A. UM.
What's the feeling like when a guy who had enough
faith in you to bring you home to give you
a chance to run this program? Uh, then comes in
and says, hey, I just want you to know I'm
gonna take a job with the n c A. UM.
I mean he's doing was best for him and his
family and standing to a great job while he was here.
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And again, I I'm in debt to stand for bringing
me here and to be the head football coach here.
And I know he'll do a good job and n
C double A as well. I would tell you this, Doug,
just me and my young head coaching experience, I've kind
of experienced some of everything. I've experienced this at two
of the jobs I've been at, you know, Western Kentucky
in South Florida. So um, I will say my trip
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here kind of really helped me with all these different experiences.
No question, everything along the way prepares you for the
moment that you are today. Last thing, everybody's gonna talk
about DeAndre and the offense. The truth is that when
Florida State is really good, you got dudes flying around
out there on defense. But of course, you know, offensive
styles have changed. Give me the sense of what you
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were left with, what you've been able to add in
to this nold defense. Well, we uh, we have some talent.
You know, we're young. We're really young on on the
defense side of the ball. And really as a football team,
we have a young football team. And um, but I
know upfront, I think we we have some really good depth.
UM really really happy to our d line. Um secondary,
we have depth, and and then a linebacker we just inexperienced.
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We have some guys they're just inexperience. And the only
way you can get it is by getting in the
fire and and and going. But like you said, when
we're really good is when we have a good defense,
and I think ben simple and allowing these guys just
to play football will help. You. Can't wait to see
you the Knowls on Labor Day at night. Joke Walker
you on the sideline against Virginia Tech. Wish you the
best of luck, coach. Thanks so much for joining us
(20:21):
on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, thank you very much for
having me on. Do you have a great day if
you want to? Happy birthday again. Hey, thank you, buddy.
Willie Tagger joining us on The Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live edition
so The Doug Got Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern
three pm Pacific. Jordan Palmer trained some of the top
quarterbacks in the country at the QB Summit at QB
Summit on Instagram or at Jordan Palmer. He joins us
(20:44):
in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Trade's gonna
join us in a moment. Quarterback is the premier position
in football. It's becoming increasingly important because you can't lay
a hand on the quarterbacks, and now that we're seeing
younger quarterbacks, really I'm wondering if it's a good thing
or a bad thing to see some of these guys play. Right.
It seems like Donald's gonna start right away. It seems
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like that's a plan. Jordan, you think Sam's Sam is
It's not necessarily he's ready to start. Does he have
a team around him that can protect him and allow
him to really learn instead of running for his life? Well,
you know, I think that the college game in the
NFL game is different enough where it's it's give me
the point. It's almost a different sport, uh, from college
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quarterback to NFL quarterback. So you know, I don't think
any any college kip coming out is just jumps in
ready to play, but it's can they find success in
an early age. The reason I say it's a different
sport is largely because of the communication flow. So in college,
if you think about it, like this weekend, watch college
football games, You'll see all eleven guys on offense, look
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to the sideline, will be a big card holding up
with funny pictures on it, and then everyone will kind
of look at the card, get to play, and then
the quarterback will clap from gun, never see the ball,
and they go. But in the NFL you're getting it
through the headset. You're repeating that him from if you're
hearing a long play call, you're repeating that long play call.
One of these guys breaks the huddle was like, wait,
(22:10):
what is it? You explained to him? Then you got
to decipher the defense this so this, the communication is
so much more comprehensive in the NFL than it is
in college, which is that's the ultimate game. It's not
can they catch up at the speed of the game
or is there arm strong enough? It's can they actually
receive and then disseminate that level of information in a
timely manner. Okay, so let me let me get back
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to Sam Donald. Everyone seems to be blown away by
his ability to process all that information like like a
computer and then put it into play on the field,
considering he wasn't doing that last year and he hasn't
not like he's been a starting quarterback all that long, right,
Like he didn't play quarterback the whole time when he's
in high school and he only started for a year
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and three quarters at USC. But let's go back. His
offensive line stinks. Wide receiving Corps average tight end tight
end position probably bottom five in the NFL running back.
Same thing, like, do you feel comfortable with Sam Donald
going out there taking a beating and learning on the job,
considering his supporting cast. Well, I mean, I think I'm
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confident in what Sam brings to the table physically and
what we've seen a pattern here of the rookies that
play well the rookie year, A lot of it is
tied to their ability to extend the play. And that
may be because they didn't really it didn't hit him right,
or they didn't read it quick enough, or they didn't
get their eyes to the right place at the right
time until they have to extend the play, or the
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receivers can't get open they're running back Mr Protection or
they're all warning camp blot. And it is really a
combination of the two right and and so a quarterbacks
ability to extend the play. And that does not mean
running a four three and getting the edge and diving
for a first down. I mean Tom Brady extends to
play by shuffling to the right one step at the
perfect time. So the rookies that are playing well, they
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are extending the play and it's given them an opportunity
to continue to make decisions and get to fall out
of their hands and deliver it actively. So Sam's game
naturally translates that, just like I worked with the Shaun
Watson to here before and his that his game naturally
translated to what he did put on the field in Houston.
I watched the tape of the song. He didn't read
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every play right, he didn't know the offense as well
as Bill o'briyan, but he made it happen, and a
lot of it was extending to play. So I think
I don't disagree with your assessment of the Jets, and
it's too early. I don't agree either, but I do
believe I do have a lot of confidence in Sam's
ability to extend the play and and find a positive
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outcome at the end of every play. Okay, so let's
let's go to Deshaun Watson. You mentioned his ability to
extend to play, but now he suffered two A C
L injuries. How much should that change his approach? Zero?
Absolutely none, he changed. He bruising out of freshman yor college,
played the exact same way um and was asked to
do a lot more physically. I mean he was, he
was getting carries in college. He wasn't running the ball,
(25:00):
he was getting carries. UM. I don't think it changes
the thing, um, the way he plays. He's going to
continue to get smarter on when to get down and
um and when to throw it away, just because quarterbacks do.
I I have a belief that quarterbacks get really good
at the things that they have to do to survive.
And with Peyton Manning at the end of his career,
that was being unbelievable pre snap because at the end
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he couldn't throw it that great and he couldn't move
that great, so he had to be He had to
get his play in his team in the perfect play
every snap. And with Sean last year, it was moving around,
buying time, making it happen. His old line struggled named
the tight end for these Houston Texans. He had star
power other places, but it was the same thing. It
was buying time, extending the play. Uh. And I think
that that part is not going to change. He'll just
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continue to get smarter and more mature in his game
as it pertains to win, how to protect himself. But
I don't think it changes anything. I just I think
Sean just just taking my crazy I said on TV
it was like two weeks ago. I was like, look,
I think he can change kind of the quarterback position
because of his ability to use what some have deemed
(26:05):
a college offense or high school offense be successful with it. Um,
come back from a knee injury. He's got an incredible
leadership quality. Asked anybody who's been around him. Um, he
he learns as he goes, He continues to learn, continues
to evolve as a player. I'm buying the stock of
Deshaun Watson even after the injury. Am I crazy to
do so? No? You know if you if you were
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like it blindfolded me last season and didn't tell me
how he did on the field, I would have the
same answer. I didn't say this publicly, Davos Sweeney I said,
but I definitely said it to a couple of teams.
Davis what he's right, kids, Michael Jordan's I know how
like bold that is and all that stuff. I'm just saying,
people don't think the way to Sean thinks. When he adversity,
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He when he plays his plays Alabama back to back years,
that's not adversity to him. Adversity is how he grew up.
Adversity was the first seventeen years of his life. So
when he plays Obama or last year at Seattle, he
goes off at New England's second start, goes off. His
defense lost both those games for them. They allowed the quarterback,
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the posing quarterback, to drive down and score a touchdown
in the two minutes later. Otherwise he's two and oh
and those two games. The way he thinks, the way
he processes information. What I had said all along during
the draft process is as good of a college player is,
he's going to be a significantly better pro. And the
reason is not because he has an elite arm, or
he's enormous or he's super fast. He's not. His physical
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comp is Alex Smith. He's the same size, similar arm, talent.
They both ran high for sex low course seven. Like
he that's his comp. But mentally he thinks about the
world differently. He genuinely believes he's the greiout athlete on
the planet. But he's so humble and likable and smiles
so much that you don't really a lot of people
(27:56):
don't pick up on that killer instanc until they get
the huddle with them. And then the part that I
got a disposure to and the reason I says you
be a better pro and college player is because he
is one of these smartest players I've ever worked with.
He was on honor role in third grade all the
way through teams list at Clemson, and he graduated in
less than three years, and he did all the work himself.
So he's actually off the charts intelligence. And in college.
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You know, at Clemson, the plays some of them were
really really simple. You know, f mode of red right boomer,
just a couple of words. But in Billibrian's offense, it's
super comprehensive. So the reason I say he's a better
pro college player is because he has more resources. Now
Bill can give him to plays, run past check with me,
away from rocation, run the ball to the shade like
he has. He has more options and more resources. And
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I think he's he's even gonna peaked for three or
four years, and I think in the meantime he's gonna ball.
Jordan Palm are joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show
Fox Sports Radio. Baker Mayfield struggled as of late look
good early, Um, I don't know. To me, I talked
to all these in felt people, They're like, look, he
processes it's super fast. He is a good leader. He's
just little, not a great athlete, and his arm has
(29:07):
some pop, but it's not like he's He's not like
he's Russell Wilson back there. What are your thoughts on
what we've seen from Baker so far? You know, I
think the Baker is a hard one to gage, but
I'm under the impression with quarterbacks in general, that confidence
is the most important straight in the quarterback because it's
actually the root of everything. Everything can get boiled down
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to are you confident enough in your ability to do
that or not? And because of where Baker is from
the confidence standpoint, and I think there's two types of confidence.
There's self generated confidence and there's reactionary confidence. Reactionary confidences
you believe everything that everybody says about you. If everyone
says you're awesome, you think you're awesome. If everybody thinks
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you're a bum, you doubt yourself. Self generated confidence is
the type of confidence where it doesn't even matter what
anybody says about you. You You building certain things about yourself.
Baker is off the are on self generated confidence. And
I am only saying this in a positive light. This
is this is an amazing thing. If I had a
drill for this, I'd make free kids do it um
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because of where he's at on that spectrum, his arm
is better than everybody thinks. He's athletic enough to extend
the play. But because his confidence is where he is,
I just I find it really hard to be against him.
I think the situation is interesting. You know, he's at
the beginning of his career. I talked about this with
Colin Cowher's lastly. His coaching staff is a lot of
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them are on a when year day, so theoretically or
figure or or realistically, so there's a lot of interesting
aspects of what's happening in Cleveland right now that may
or may not they work for or against him. But
the reality is he's such a unique character in terms
of the confidence that he plays with, how he shows
up on game day are just He's just a guy
(30:55):
that I'm just not going to bet against. And my
bet is that he figures it out. He surprises everybody,
just like he did at Texas Tack in Oklahoma. I
mean again, let give us a walk on twice, pis
and finalists three times. No, it's I don't know that
we'll see it again. It's it's it's really really remarkable.
Jordan Palmer joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here
here on Fox Sports Radio at QB Summit. You can
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follow him on Instagram or at Jordan Palmer as well.
I want to ask you about a couple of college kids,
because this is a purely college weekend. Let's start with
a guy that everyone in the SEC knows a little
bit about. I think people nationally are gonna learn about. UM,
give me your sense for your expectations. And Drew Lock.
You know, Drew is one of those guys you're just
(31:36):
flown under the radar most people. People are football things.
I don't know who he is, but I'm gonna get
this wrong, so somebody check this. But I think he
let the sk broken SEC record for yards last year.
He's done some things that are um that are are
there upper restelan and record breaking. If these stays healthy
all these games. Who have more starts than any SEC quarterback.
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So's a couple of these little things where you go, man,
that's interesting. But he plays in Missouri. Um, I'm excited
to watch him have big moments against big teams. UM,
I don't know how what the team's gonna look like
this year. I don't know a ton about Missouri and
defense at the program and all that stuff, um, but
in terms of individual talent um, you know, Drew and
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among two or three other guys at the standards this
year in the SEC. And if I'm if I'm a
big SEC, if I'm Obama on Auburn, any of those fans,
I'm certainly concerned with playing Missouri because they do have
a quarterback who can score as many points as possible
and confidence wise, UH is gonna feel like the best
player on the field and it's gonna play accordingly. And
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I'm fired up for for Drew's name to kind of
cast fire and to watch everybody's help on the span.
Dam all right, you mentioned Auburn and how they should
feel they got Jared's didn't who of course transferred in
from Baylor. They opened up this weekend with Washington. Huge
game for you, Dubney, kind of the entire pack twelve
UH and and their legitimacy on the line. UH. Sindham
had some moments last year, but then he had some
(33:05):
moments of just being Okay, what are your thoughts on
what we expect from him this season. Well, I'm excited
for Jared because, um, you know, with carry On Johnson,
they're running back last year leaving and he accounted for
a lot of touches for them, made up a lot
of their offense. It's putting you know, gust Mill's on it.
He just all he wants to do is run the
football every single play, run it twice on the play
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if he could. Um, you know, he's in a position
now with carry On leaving, Jarrett taking on a leader,
you know, more of the leadership role on owning the offense.
Got some really talented receivers where they're gonna have to
throw it more. Um and UH and the Auburn Tigers
allowing Jarrett to control more of the offense is a
really good thing. He's really talented, UH, really good understanding
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of the game. He's played in two different systems. Chip
lindsay that that offensive coordinator very cerebral, great decision. Um.
So I'm excited to watch Auburn from run heavy. So
hopefully putting more on Jarret because he's certainly capable of being,
uh the best quarterback in the country and UH and
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the top pick in next year's draft. I see crews
right there, both those guys. The conversation about both two guys,
last one is is j T. Daniels And look, your
brother obviously starred there and he he kind of reinvigorated,
you know, the the luster of the quarterback position. But
we've seen Orange County kids, Tom Rinovich say what you
(34:32):
want about what happened with drugs and alcohol after after
USC and maybe sometimes during USC, but that was with Raiders.
He was a spectacular talent with SC. We've seen Mark Sanchez,
We've seen Matt Barkley, Um, We've seen Matt Leinert Um.
J T. Daniels could be in high school as a senior. Instead,
he's the starting quarterback at USC. Who of those Alzheimer's
(34:56):
at SC as he liked uh not of him? And
and I'm really trying to control expectations. I've turned down
a lot of interviews about j C. I do not
want to create expectations. I definitely feel he's on a
different trajectory than anybody I've ever been around. And I
started working with him in the seventh grade, and I
don't really work with seventh graders. I noticed some unique
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traits very early on. None of them were physical, all mental,
the way that he thinks about the game, the commitment
that he has to the game, and he has a
giant head start. He has been around a lot of
the best quarterbacks in the world, so perfect example, last
year he won gatoray Player of the Year and Deshaun Watson,
through a video conference, presented them the award. It's a
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Gator appearance for DeShawn. It's a normal thing. Any high
school kid would think that is the coolest thing in
the world. When that happened, he had thrown with the
Shawn that my stuff forty times. This guy has been
exposed to so much good football for so many years,
and he's just for eighteen. He is just thinking about
the things the right way. So I've been around Carson
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in Sanchez and Barkley and all these guys and Leinert.
JT is in a unique position where he actually I
don't like he has no ceiling and before is really high.
So I don't want to I'm not making predictions or anything,
but I do have a feeling he's gonna be one
of the best players in the country this year. A
great stuff. As always, Jorge, I can talk football with
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you all the time. Matter of fact, I need to
shoot up to your your office, it's literally five minutes
from my house. Well, i'll do so. I know in
the coming weeks I'll do so. I'll grab some You
tell what kind of coffee I'll grab it. We'll talk
Paul in the meantime. Thanks for joining us Jordan Palmer
at QB Summit.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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