August 29, 2018 • 45 mins
Doug's out so Jonas Knox and Rob Parker fill in and tell you why Aaron Rodgers is worth every single penny of his new record breaking contract. They also talk about Sam Darnold being named the Jet's starting QB week 1 of the regular season after they traded Teddy Bridgewater to the Saints. Super Bowl Champion and NFL Network Analyst James Jones joins the show to talk about breaking the news on Rodgers' new contract.
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is the best of the Doug got Leave Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, Fox Sports Radio on what has
turned into a busy, busy day in the National Football League.
We've got quarterback maneuvering all around the NFL, and we
will get to that here coming up in just a
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couple of minutes. You can check out the show as
well on the I Heart Radio app. John Ramos is here,
Ryan Music is here, and most importantly alongside me, Jonas Knox,
it's the great and powerful Rob park I thought you
were gonna say Wizard of Oz my man. Well, Rob Parker, Jonas,
I've been looking forward to doing a show. Yeah, that's
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gonna be fine. It's gonna be fun. We'll do it.
We're gonna get in some trouble, I believe, I think so.
When they're gonna come from upstairs down to the studio. Yeah,
we will. We will be getting a Shapiro bomb. I
think at some point unplug He'll just come down, Scott.
I'm just unplugged my microphone, Like, what are you doing?
A very violent man, very violent man. He is. Um.
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All right, So Rob Parker, let's let's get as started,
because we have got a quarterback who just got really,
really wealthy. Before we talk about that, I do want
to mention the dominoes that have fallen in the New
York Jets quarterback situation. Teddy Bridgewater has been traded to
the New Orleans Saints. Just yeah, just happened, and the
Jets have officially announced Sam Donald as the starting quarterback
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week one Monday Night at Detroit in Matt Patricia's debut.
Now I know you are a die hard Detroit Lion fan.
No no, um, Rob Parker is actually doing the show
right now in a dominic Reola Jersy. The Oh my god,
he founded at Macy's. It was four bucks, that's right.
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But but okay, So, so Sam Donald is a starter.
We're gonna have plenty on that. We've got an NFL
insider joining us coming up. In about fifteen minutes from now.
All the details on that will be coming up, but
we want to start with Aaron Rodgers, who got a
brand new contract some of the details. It was reported
by James Jones, his former teammate. That was the story
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that Aaron Rodgers was going to basically give the info
to James Jones to release to the public. James Jones
will be joining us later on as well too. Um
it's we've been hearing stuff around eighty million dollars guaranteed.
He's going to be due uh eight to ninety by March.
A lot of money, but a big time contract extension
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for Aaron Rodgers, right. The total package was one but
it's the money that we talk and we'll know the
details of that as throughout the course of the day
and we'll figure out just all of that as it
comes up. But it gets to the point of, well,
why is Aaron Rodgers worth that kind of money? And
from my understanding, you feel like, well, why isn't he
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He's the best quarterback I've ever seen play the position,
not the most accomplished. There's a difference between the two.
But Jonas I would say to you, what doesn't he do.
I've seen this guy do everything with the football. He
can throw uh distance, he has a great arm, he
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has great touch, accuracy, accuracy. He has the greatest, not
one of the greatest quarterback rating in the history of
the NFL, all the quarterbacks stacked up, he has the
greatest quarterback rating. He also has the greatest touchdown to
interception ratio, something like four to one. Not Tom Brady
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is not even like two and a half to one.
It's not even close like the next guy. That's how
good it is. So I think he deserves to be
the highest paid guy. People want to say, well, he's
only won one Super Bowl. I get it. And I'm
not one of these guys who's gonna say when he wins,
it's all his doing, and when he loses, never his
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his doing. I get it. He still gets lumped in
with the Green Bay Packers, who have had a chance
to go to a couple more Super Bowls. We saw
in Seattle against Seattle where they choked that down. There
was a trip to the Super Bowl sitting right there
on sidekick tight end not couldn't catch the ball. Uh.
Seattle recovered and wind up stealing that game and trip
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to the Super Bowl away from them, but there were others. Uh.
So he has won super Bowl. He's batting a thousand.
Does he need to win another Super Bowl for his legacy? Absolutely?
I believe in always anybody can win once where everything
the stars aligned, everything works out right, and can it
never happens again. When you win twice three times, it's
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about you, then I know you have something to do
with this when you can do it. So he has
to win another one, But I have no issue. I
don't care how much money Green Bay gave him. I
don't care if they have money left over for other people.
That's not his concern. Aaron Rodgers should be kept compensated.
And that's what they did to that. Yeah, And and
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the latest details and again the guaranteed money number has
changed a couple of times, with the latest according to
Adam Schefter of ESPN is it's a hundred and three
million dollars total. And again the number has changed because
we heard around eight to nine d and then it
moved around. So regardless, it's a record setting deal as
far as guaranteed goes in the NFL. And so that
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people out there will look at this and say, well,
what does it do to the rest of the roster,
because if you've got all this money tied up in
Aaron Rodgers, what happens to the rest of the roster.
There's just a reality in the NFL. You either have
a great quarterback or you don't. And if you don't
have one, what does that mean? You have no shot them?
And and and you have to build in other areas.
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I look at it like this. I think that and
I was making this comparison like nobody's perfect, but I
also believe that nobody's completely lost either. Um, you could
be short, you could be fat, you could be bald,
you could smell, but you probably got a lot of
money or you got I mean, you have to have something.
Somebody has something has I totally agree with that, And
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I think the way NFL teams look at this nowadays
is they think to themselves, all right, who do we
have as a quarterback? Well, if you don't have Aaron Rodgers,
or you don't have Tom Brady, or you don't have
Drew Brees, you have what would be considered a step
below at quarterback, which means you have to put your
money into pieces around him to improve the totality of
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the roster. If you do have one of those elite quarterbacks,
you can afford to put your money into him because
he makes so many people on the team that much greater.
And so when people look at the deal and think, man,
that's gonna tie up, they're gonna be cash trapped and
that's gonna tie up the money. They can't afford this.
They can't afford that they're shopping is different than your shopping. Okay,
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when you're shopping, you need to find pieces around you
to try and improve that quarterback and build him up.
We've seen it with the Rams and Jared Goff. We've
seen it with the Eagles and Carson Wentz. The Eagles
built up that roster so well. They want a Super
Bowl with Nick Foles, who was awful in St. Louis
not that long ago, and what about four or five
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star players has also hurt. That's how and they knew that.
That's why they looked at Carson Wentz and said, on
his rookie deal, let's load up around him and let's
get as many star players as we can and build
the deepest, best roster possible. The Rams did it with
Jared Goff. The Bears are trying to do it with
Mitch Drabinski. How that plays out, we'll see, but it's
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just a different in financial philosophy. You either have a
guy that you pay a ton of money too because
he deserves it and he's elite and he's gonna make
everybody better, or you don't and that money's got to
go somewhere while you still got that quarterback on the
rookie deal. Good for Aaron Rodgers. I totally get the move.
He's worth every single penny, no doubt. And he's one
of those guys sometimes they give a deal out and
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you go, I don't know if I really feel good
about it, even though it's not your money. Yeah, the
the NBA two years ago, all right, when they were
just turning over money to people, and you were like,
really like this guy getting like who was it? Who
was the player for? For who was the highest paid
player at one point? From was a Memphis or the guard?
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Remember that even he had made more money than any
player and who had ever played in the NBA and
the guy had never made an All Star team. I've
never remember that. I've never been more ashamed at being
six too and not all that athletic than when Evan
Turner got seventy million and I thought Jesus just away money.
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But in this case, Aaron Rodgers to me, I don't
know how you can look at the guy and I
you know, yes, he's been injured a couple of times,
but if you look at his body of work and
what he's been able to do, and I love the
way he just plays. There are a few guys I
don't root for teams. You know what. I've been a
journalist for thirty two years. You're not a Lions fan.
I could have sworn your alliance. No, no, oh no,
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not at all. Big Matt Stafford guy here, I mean
Pat Stafforst is that guy? Statad first, that guy unbelievable.
But no. Um So when you see a guy who
can do the things that he's done and you could,
I appreciate watching him. I really They were a handful
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of guys who I would say that I would pay
money as a sportswriter, I would pay my money to
go see. Say I didn't live in that city and
Aaron Rodgers was coming to play, I would go buy
a ticket to watch him play. That's how good he is.
And I think that's why he's separate from a lot
of other guys. And here's the thing about Rogers as well, too,
because if you're one of those people out there that
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are saying, why would you put a hundred and three
million dollars guaranteed in a quarterback who's dealing with injuries
the past couple of years and he's thirty four years old? No, No,
he's sad his first three years. We're talking about a
thirty one year old. He didn't go through the beating
other guy's got. So if you're looking at Tom Brady
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now Aaron Rodgers, I'm not saying he's in the same
which doctor that Tom Brady's using. What I'm saying, here
we go. What I'm saying, there's a good chance that
Aaron Rodgers will be able to play down the road
a little longer as well. And let me tell you something.
Brady's playing at forty years old. Okay, So let's let's
look at Rogers. If he continues to play at this level,
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and even if he diminishes a little bit, which just
happens with time, that's it's it's normal. Time is undefeated. Course,
Aaron Rodgers six years from now, at forty I mean,
what record won't that guy have? I mean, who knows
what the hell he's got. So I think it was
a good deal for the Packers. I totally get the
move absolutely. I think if you're a Packer fan, you're
happy he's not going anywhere. He's not gonna be disgruntled.
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He could just go out and play football, and uh, congrats,
good good for him. That money, you'll go a long
way in Green Bay, by the man. Jeez, that's like
eight dollars to adopt walking into the store with a
fifty spot, you know exactly. They don't even take those
at the cash register. Have you been in downtown Green Bay?
There's a kmart. Not too much else going on down there. Uh.
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Rob Parker Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieb here on
Fox Sports Radio. You can always check out this show
on the I Heart Radio app. You can get Rob
on Twitter and I'm sure you will let him know
how much you appreciate is Tom Brady comments at Rob
Parker FS one. You can also get me at the
Jonas Knox and if you would like to tweet Aaron
Rodgers and uh and ask him his opinion of his
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new record breaking deal. Just tweet him at j S
Ramos zero six, Aaron Rodgers running John Ramo's Twitter account. Yeah,
I believe. So alright, there you go. We know now alright,
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, we are
going to find out why one move in the NFL
just changed the future for a Hall of Fame coach.
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That's next year on FSR. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon
eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Teddy Bridgewater gets traded to the
New Orleans Saints. The compensation is a third round pick,
so the Saints. Um So, the Jets traded a sixth
round pick along with Teddy Bridgewater to the New Orleans
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Saints for a third round pick. So now New Orleans
in next year's draft has one pick in the first
three rounds. Um. From from my understanding, they've got one
pick in the first three rounds. And the Jets have
named Sam Donald their starting quarterback for Week one, Monday
Night against the Detroit Lions. Now, I think that's an
interesting matchup because the brand new head coach for the
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Detroit Lions is Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia was the defensive
coordinator for the New England Patriots for years. The team
Matt Patricia game planned against for years and years was
the New York Jets. He knows that team really well.
I'm fascinated to see on a national stage how Matt
Patricia is going to gear up against a rookie quarterback.
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You've seen this play out before, you mentioned Matt Ryan.
How is Detroit going to They've got a couple of
things happening. They've got a brand new head coach and
potentially new hope there, and then they've got a rookie
they I mean, I've heard it all. Oh, this is
finally the year, the year to Lions win four in
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a preseason. You know what they did that season, So
so come on, you gotta you gotta keep the positive. Mean,
so yeah, I've seen that. I just think it's great.
Here you are, you got your You know, the Jets
were supposed to win two games and get him, and
then somehow they won five games and everybody thought, Okay,
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the one year you're supposed to be awful and get
your franchise quarterback, you you mess it up by winning
more games than you should have. Somehow, the Giants passed
up on him, knowing that they need a franchise quarterback
as time continues to tick on Eli right and take
a running back. Okay, gives the Jets an opening at
number three day get their guy. I love the way
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that they're going into the season with the idea of
our Messiah has shown up. We're going to put him,
give him his sandals, his fish, his loincloth, whatever, and
put him out there and let's see what happens. And
I'm not saying I'm looking for perfection. He has to
go out there and be the quarterback, the age veteran
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and don't do everything right and never throw a pick. No,
he's gotta learn how to play. You throw him on
the road, you throw him against the team like the Lions.
You just said, Matt Patricia the new coach there, and
I don't know, maybe you go out and you see
from day one you've got something different. If somehow he
goes out there. If you're a Jets fan, they go
to Detroit and they win Game one with the look
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it was crazy with Mark Sanchez and he's not half
the quarterback the same Donald and and Mark Sanchez for
all the ripping that with the butt fumble and all that.
He won four road playoff games. I've tell people all
the time, go look up how many quarterbacks good quarterbacks
have won four road playoff games, including beating Tom Brady
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and the Patriots in Foxboro. I know, Mark Sanchez, I
don't think it's enough credit for that. And those Jets
teams were they were closed, yeah, and they were really clear.
They had a lead against Indianapolis in the a f
C title game. They were closed twice and they didn't
get there and Rex Ryan and then the bet worst
thing that ever happened to the Jets after that was
they didn't get there, right, they lost, and then the
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Giants out of nowhere one Net Super Bowl and then
so it was like New York all the way back
to the Giants and nobody people didn't care about. Of course. Um.
The other angle to this, to this story, in this
trade and what it means is Teddy Bridgewater is now
the backup quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. Um. I
love the move for the Saints. And here's why. One,
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it's an insurance policy. Anything happens to Drew Brees and look,
you you never know what could happen. He's getting up
there in age. He had a major injury earlier in
his career. You never know what could happen. And you
don't want to be in the position that some other
teams are where you lose your quarterback and it's a
disaster only quarterback. I e. The Colts, I E. The
Green Bay Packers from a year ago, and what happened
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with Philly your team? What had the m v P
of the NFL until he got hurt? There you lose
your quarterback. Everybody writes you off that it's not gonna happen.
And what did he do? He do? What does he do?
He beats Tom Brady? And I'll play Tom Brady in
the Super Bowl and win you a champion. Yeah, And
I think the Saints look at their situation because let's
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be honest here the Minneapolis miracle, the Saints probably should
have been in the NFC Title Game, and I actually
would have picked them to beat Philadelphia. I thought I
thought New Orleans had a legitimate shot to do that.
But as you know, what happened and the miracle and
all that stuff, the Saints were limitated. They feel like
they've got a roster because they hit home runs in
the draft. Defensively a year ago. All of a sudden,
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they found a defense. The old line is solid. They've
got an actual running game behind Drew Brees. Got a
couple of running I mean really good, even though mark
Ingram was missing the first four games. I love Camara,
I love mark Ingram. There's a lot to like about
the Saints. Also, if this isn't a insurance policy, it
may not be ideal for Teddy Bridgewater to go to
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a place where he's playing behind a Hall of Fame
quarterback who's probably going to break the record for career
passing yards in Week five or six in the NFL.
He's on pace to do it. They've got their quarterback
of the future. Like look at every team that's got
a veteran level quarterback, the Packers, the Patriots, the Saints.
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Only the Saints have their quarterback in the future. And
Teddy Bridgewater, who's still what twenty five years old, has
got a lot of potential. He's very well liked, very
well respected. Him working with Sean Payton. There's hope down
the road. The Saints have been looking for the air
apparent for quite a while and this isn't talked about enough.
The Patriots moved up to to draft Jimmy Garoppolo because
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the Saints were going to take him. They looked at
Jimmy Garoppolo the same way that the Patriots did because
back then New Orleans. Ryan Pace was an executive in
New Orleans. He went to Eastern Illinois. Sean Payton was
the head coach in New Orleans. He went to Eastern Illinois.
They loved Jimmy Garoppolo. They've been hearing about him for
a while. They were going to take Jimmy Garoppolo, and
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the Patriots uh jumped over them and they grabbed him.
So the Saints have been trying to find a guy.
I'll bet in New Orleans their ecstatic Right now here
is your third round pick. If anything happens to Drew
this year, we've got our guy and moving forward, we've
got our no doubt about it. I agree with that.
I don't. I could see why the Stage did it.
It makes total sense, and I understand why the Jets
did it. You don't need three. You got McCown there right,
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of course, you don't need another. You don't need another
guy to have Teddy Bridgewater sitting there a hold a clipboard.
It makes no sense. The Jets had to give up
some picks in order to move up right to get
to the third spot. So now to get a pick back.
I like it. And and you and you name Sam Donald,
No if Ans or Buds, no him. And in Han
he's the guy count to back up and this and
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we go forward and that's how it's played. And uh,
it makes me wonder what's gonna happen with r G
three because r G three was in a similar spot
as Teddy Bridgewater. Listen, the knock on r G three
was can't stay healthy. Um didn't play smart outside of
the pocket. That's why he had the injuries. He's a
little guy, he's bulked up. He's bulked up. He's looked
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better in the preseason and he's out played Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
but you just drafted. Of course, I just don't see
no way, right. But but I wonder what kind of
deal is going to be out there for in r
G three, Like, if you're a team out there, I
would I would, I'd give up a mid round pick
for RG three to see what you got. Why not?
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It's one of those things he had such an unbelievable,
like the best rookie season ever at quarterback right numbers wise,
and to see him fall that far with the injuries,
and he's almost branded now, right, Like you looked at
him and there's just there's a bad taste in your
mouth left over what happened, no doubt about it. And
sometimes people I don't think people even think of him
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as a viable option other than like a backup quarterback.
And he's not old either, because what you know, you
get kind of wedged in somewhere and people look at
you that way. I think that happened, yeah, and I
think that's happened with him. So I'm curious to see
how that plays out because they are in a similar spot.
To your point, you don't need three quarterbacks on the roster.
Nobody carries three quarterbacks. You're not gonna put r G
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three on the practice squad. This doesn't make any it doesn't.
It makes no sense whatsoever. So that he's probably gonna
be traded to a cut right and and and there
will and and they're playing Washington, which is you know,
one of the great coincidences that he's probably playing for
a job and his future in the NFL against and
it's going to be the Redskins. So as as chance
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would have it, be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon eastern three
pm Pacific. Right now, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
Bruce Arians, two time Super Bowl champion, former head coach,
now an analyst with CBS and is also he's got
a book out, Rob Bruce Arians has a book out
called The Quarterback Whisper, and he joins us now here
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on Fox Sports Radio. Bruce, thanks so much for the time.
We appreciate it. Oh, thanks you guys. Glad to be
on so we have I I saw the Football Life
documentary on with you. Um, you have a reputation for
letting it fly as far as the vocabulary goes. How concerned?
How concerned are you? Or was that part of the
discussion with CBS in doing these games, that you don't
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drop an F bomb every week? Yeah? I think that
was all the networks that look confronted, you know, and
uh and my interviews. I had to convince them that
I could actually I did have another voc so that
that would help. Yeah, that that would probably be one
way too. It would be like showing up for a
job interview and they smell booze on your breath. You know,
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it's probably not a good thing to drop a bunch
of bombs. But are you are you looking forward to
it that? What was the tryout? Like? What was it?
Was it different? Are you excited? Like? How how are
you feeling now? I feel great? We got our first game.
We had the the Detroit Tampa game the other night.
Uh done in Tampa and right off to that we
had an hour rain delay with lightning and uh my
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beginning went to eight minutes, so it was it was
five by the seat of your pants. And uh, I'm
so lucky to have great Gumble and try Grain. I mean,
you talk about two great professionals to learn how to
do this thing. That the hard part. I always think
when people leave the field as a player or a
coach and then they go onto the broadcast booth is
you still have a lot of people you know and
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friends and connections and you know, uh stuff, And sometimes
it's hard for guys to make that transition and criticize
people and say stuff when they're not playing well. And
it's not only a critical you know, you're you're not
only criticizing, but sometimes that could be difficult. Have you
thought about that at all? Oh? Yeah, I was playing
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golf with them Aflsburger this summer. I said, you know,
there's a really good chance my first game is gonna
be Pittsburgh Cleveland. He kind of looks me, what are
you gonna say? Said, dude, I'm gonna telling the truth.
I know what are you gonna say yet? Man? But yeah,
that would be my That would be my advice. Man.
You can't go wrong with the truth. Yeah, and so
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you know, we were laughing about it and uh so, yeah,
and actually that is my first game. I'm with Pittsburgh
and Cleveland. Oh that's great. Bruce arians, former NFL head coach,
two times Super Bowl champion, with us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Why was it time to walk away from coaching? Um?
I remember hearing uh and and in seeing that documentary
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that you and your wife had set on retirement. You
guys were gonna go move. I think it was to
Alabama if I remember it correctly. And you guys had
had completely or or down to the South somewhere and
you completely set you're good and then you got called
back by Chuck Pogando to come be a coach again.
And next thing you know, you're filling in for Chuck Pogano.
You do an amazing job with Andrew Luck and that team.
Now you're the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. You
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had success there. Why now it was? It was really
much a family decision. You know. It was a Ralph Thanksgiving.
I had had some health scares, nothing serious, but scarce
and my wife said, you know, I'm not sure I
could do this anymore. I said, you know what, I'm
not sure I can't either. And it really was it
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was time and uh, no better way to go out
to a field goal and see out on the last
play the game and beat beat the Seahawks and uh
and you know, got our fiftieth win. And it was
it was like it was perfect time. And Bruce. The
Jets today traded Teddy Bridgewater and they named Sam Donald
the starting quarterback. I love to just get a guy,
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put him in there. The only way you're gonna learn
how to play quarterback is actually playing it. Or do
you like this the way that the Jets are moving
forward with him? Or would you have liked to see
him sit down a year or so and figure it
out first. No, I love it. I mean it's the
same thing we did with Peyton Manning. He was ready
and we drafted him for that reason. You know, when
when you said don't start, you also don't get any
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practice time, so you just waste a year. Um, now
they're gonna be bumps in the road. But this guy's talented.
I really like his demeanor. I think Todd does too,
so I mean it's hey, let's let's give him the
keys to the car. And uh, obviously, I think all
the rest of the players on the Jets are excited
about it, and uh, he's just gonna get better. But
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he's gonna have up so he's gonna have downs. I
think he's one of those guys is just gonna handle
them all the same. Bruce arians with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. We I've always heard this that if
you put a rookie quarterback in, you can't take him out.
But it seems like it's different at other positions. If
you put a running back in and he's not playing
well initially, you know he can get benched. Why is
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it at the quarterback position that you need to just
deal with what the quarterback goes through without benching him
for poor play. But it's not like that at other positions. Yeah,
because it's such a hard position to play. I mean,
you're gonna get scars, and you don't want the scars
to be too deep. You start benching guys and then
bring them back. Then the scars get way too deep.
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Then they're then they're playing to please you rather than
be the other team. Hey, let him know this is
your team. You're gonna you're gonna screw it up, but
you're gonna make some plays too. Let's make more plays
than your screw up. Bruce. What about the a f C.
I know everybody just likes to hand it everything over
to the Patriots every year before anything gets started. But
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Jacksonville had a great defense last year, had a twenty
to ten leading going into the fourth quarter at Foxboro.
They wind up not winning the game and not getting
to the super Bowl. But I still like Jacksonville. Who
do you like in the a f C? Oh Man,
I think there's three or four teams. I mean, you
always started with the Patriots, But yeah, Jacksonville's defenses they're legit,
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whether or not Blake Borders and actually take him there. Uh,
I was not. I know he was relaxed this preseason,
but I didn't see him get better. UM, So that one,
that one scares me. If they can score enough points.
I love the Steelers because I love Ben Roethlisberger. I
think he's got a chance, like Tom Brady's, be the
m v P of the league with that offense they have.
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If their defense can show up this year, Um, and
then I guess it's it's pretty much the Houston Texans.
If j J watch stay south to Jadaveon Clowney, stay healthy.
Deshaun Watson is going to score points, no doubt. I
really I would really watch out for the for the
Texans this year. And uh in the West, I don't
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know that that one's kind of like going up in
the air. Um, anybody can win it. I don't know
how far they're going to go. The Chargers seem to
be the most complete team. Bruce Arians, two times Super
Bowl champion, former NFL head coach, now an analyst with
CBS Sports, is with us here on Fox Sports Radio
in for Doug gott Leevi, it's Rob Parker and Jonas
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Knox here on FS are UM coach. We were talking
about just some of the quarterback developments around the league.
You had mentioned um and we had talked about you
spending time in Indianapolis and talked about scarring and things
like that. Andrew Luck, is it how confident are you
that he can get back to where he was before
or did he take such a pounding the past couple
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of years that he may have been scarred and moving
forward it might be an issue. No, because andrews the
linebacker playing quarterback. His mindset is unbelievable. Now. I think
you know, all these young quarterbacks when they come in,
they have to win the locker room over, so they
do crazy things to show how tough they are. I
think Carson Wentz and I think Andrew Luck are two
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guys that they've they've earned their stripes. Now they don't
have to show how tough they are anymore, so they'll
play smartyr as far as injury wise. But it's in
Andrew's d n a uh to be a really tough player.
His arm looks. The other night I watched him and
I was so happy to see him back. I mean,
the league needs just this. He was when I had
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him his rookie year. I've never been around a rookie
and I had Peyton Manning, I was around Ben, Timmy Couch.
I mean Timmy was a third year player. But what
he did as a rookie was amazing because he had
six other rookies starting with him on offense, which was
unheard of. Yeah, that's a lot right there, and no doubt. Um,
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you mentioned Carson wins at and this is the reason
I like the Eagles again. They're getting back. They lost
a lot of good players last year right to injury.
They're bringing these guys back. Um, they were already stacked.
They won a super Bowl. But Carson Wentz, I know
he's wanted got a Super Bowl ring. But you know,
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this guy was on the verge of wing the m
v P of the league before he got hurt. Does
it good when you have a quarterback who has something
to prove, who has to something to pick up? You know, like, Okay,
yeah we won the super Bowl, but I didn't get
to do what I was on the verge of doing
last year. And he has like an added uh instead
of to keep those guys focused and to try to
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win again. Whereas if you're asking Nick Foles to repeat
what he did last year. That's that's a tall order.
If if they had to rely on just Nick Foles
duplicating what he did last year. Yeah, I don't think
there's any doubt. I mean they did. That was one
of the best coaching jobs I've ever seen done with
Doug Peterson did with Nick Foles. Uh, and going back
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and doing a lot of stuff that they did with
Chip Kelly when he was successful. Carson wentz Is I mean,
he's he's an animal. I mean, this guy's he's legit.
And like you said, you want a hungry quarterback. Everybody
else probably and I've been there, they're all a little complacent. Yeah,
a little fat, It goes. It goes with the territory.
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I mean, you don't win the championship and not get
a little fat, little complacent. He's not. He's hungry as
hell and he wants to win. So I think it's
gonna He's gonna drive that bus and get the rest
of those guys readier role. Bruce Arians, I do want
to ask you about the book The Quarterback Whisper, How
to Build an elite NFL Quarterback. I just want to
ask you a follow up, though I'm sposed to the
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quarterback whip. Of course, yeah, I can't wait. I'm a listen.
I'm a sucker for football books and documentaries, I really am,
so I will be definitely reading this. Um. But I
want to ask you, because you mentioned quickly about Chip Kelly.
We chip Kelly kind of has a negative vibe attached
to him, I think from NFL fans and NFL media
members with how things ended in Philadelphia, but from a
coaching standpoint, as somebody who has forgotten more about NFL
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schemes and the NFL game than most people even know.
How what is Chip Kelly's reputation like around the league
and in football circles? From people you talked to? A
brilliant mind? I mean, Chip is he's an innovator. Um.
I have the most respect for what he attempted to
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do and and did I mean his first couple of
years we got lucky and beat him a couple of times.
But uh, it takes a coaching staff in the front
office that is so in sync anymore to win and
get the players that the coaches want to coach and
the scouts wanted to have on their team. That is
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such a tough blend. And Um'm not saying they didn't
have it in Philly. But I don't think it was
as good as it could have been. And but Chip
Kelly is one one of the best offensive minds out there.
Um tell us about the book, Bruce arians the Quarterback Whisper,
How to Build an Elite NFL Quarterback? Um, why what
was the reason the decision to write the book to
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be a part of the book this soon after your
coaching career and where can people find it? Well, actually
it's on Amazon. It's it's coming out in paperback. It's
been out for a year and a half and it
came out last summer and hard back, and uh, I
was shocked. I mean I never thought I'd ever read
a book, but we were on Amazon's hot best seller
list for a long time and it's now coming out
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in paperback, and uh yeah, it was just it's just
stories of the guys. You know, I was so fortunate
in my career to have such great quarterbacks and each
and every one of them is so unique and just
just talking about those of what it takes to be
an elite player. That's awesome. Well, good luck, coach, Congratulations
on retirement. You're gonna You're gonna do a hell of
a job at CBS being an analyst for the NFL.
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You've always been one of our favorites. Uh so again,
congrats on all your success on retirement and what's going
to turn into a successful broadcasting career. We appreciate it.
Thank you guys so much. Fox Sports Radio has the
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listen live. Right now though, James Jones, super Bowl champion,
NFL network analysts and now NFL insider, is with us
here on Fox Sports Radio. James, thanks so much for
popping on. We appreciate it. Not a problem man, Thanks
for having me. Um so, so, how does this work?
Because you you you you've got a Super Bowl ring,
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successful NFL career, you become an analyst and now you're
an insider and you broke the biggest story of the day,
Aaron Rodgers. Did he reach out to you personally? Did
his did his agent tell you about it? How did
this work? Well? First of all, I want to say
I'm the inside, I am analyst, I'm want happened to
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be a very good friend of the ever just man
being him, got a very good relationship man. So you know, uh,
he was very kind to let me break the news
and let me know when it's when it always gonna
go down. But no, Man, how it happened man, Um,
you know, just over the over the last year or so,
man with you know, the Jordy Nelson getting released and
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you know me and to really being close to being
able to break up where he's a contract um information. Uh,
We're extremely close, man, It's a family. So Aaron was
you know way back there was just like, hey, Man,
when it's my turn, Man, I would love to have
you doing we played together. I just think it'll be
cool to have to have you do that, uh and
break the charger. And I said, I'm all up for man,
I'm down for that. Eventually it happened, Man, And I'm
(35:40):
from grandy for man just as you know, be a
packer for life, man, be under contract to he you know,
it's about the age of forty man. And you know
he could, you know, bring up more championships the Green
Bay Packers and he deserves every penny of it. I
think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback I've ever seen
throw to football. He's not the most accomplish other people
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of one more and done some other things and awards.
But as far as uh playing the position of football,
do you do you feel that way? Do you that
that Aaron can do? What can you do as a quarterback?
And any of the greatest quarterback radio quarterback rating of
anybody who's ever playing the National Football League? Man, I
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wish I could have you by my side because I
tell people that the exact same thing you just told me.
I've never seen and I played regret. I played with
Derek Carr too. Special quarterbacks man, and I just I've
never seen nobody like Daron riding. Man. I'm just talking
about throwing the ball outside of the pocket, throwing the
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ball inside the pocket. Man. Just I mean, he's just
a special talent. We've never seen the quarterbacks like this
kid like Aaron makes throwing man, and he's a he's
a special player. And I tell people all the time,
I believe he's the greatest of all the time because
we've never seen some of these springs that are being made,
especially on the run, and you know, we've never seen
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any of being made. And he's change in the game,
any quarter that comes out of college, any corn that
you know starting to make some plays in the game.
They always say, man, that looks like Aaron Roser, that
looks like Aaron Rodgers, always comparing him to Aaron Rossings.
And to me, that's the evoluement. To me, that shows
that he's probably the greatest to ever play the game. Head.
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He doesn't have to like Tom, but when you show
us about the talent and the product on the field, man,
it's hard to argue against Aaron Rodgers. James Jones, super
Bowl champion NFL Network analysts with us here on Fox
Sports Radio, Jonas Knox, Rob Parker, uh In for Doug Gottlieb.
So we get to the Super bowls um and people
will do the comparisons between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
(37:51):
Why doesn't Aaron Rodgers have more Super Bowls? Man, that's
a lot that goes into Man, I know, I played
with Aaron Rogers, you know, eight years and I mean
we won the Super Bowl, we were tending six, caught
fire one Super Bowl. The next year we come back
to fifteen and one, and then we leave Eggs the
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New York Giants at home after we had a bye week,
uh Rogers, like three weeks off because he didn't play
the last game of the year. I thought that was
a mistake, and you guys came out yeah but my yeah, exactly.
And I mean I don't even want to go back
to that game because you bring it back some bad memories.
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But um, yeah, man, I think it's I think it's
just the luck of the draw, man. I mean, shoot,
as a team, you have to catch fire at the
right time, and in two thousand and ten we did.
And you know a lot of years that we made.
I mean, he made the postseason eight straight times, and
you know, we went in there and just didn't finish
the job, man. And I mean it has nothing to
do with air, nothing to do with the defense, nothing
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to do you know, with the receivers. It's a team thing, man,
and we just went out there didn't get the job done.
So he has one and now he's under contact for
six more years and hopefully out of him six at
least bring us three more. Um. I've always said this,
and and you being so close with Aaron Rodgers, James
Jones with us here on Fox Sports Radio that I
try not to judge athletes, uh and their personalities because
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I have no idea who they are. Like Jay Cutler
was called, you know, an a hole for you know,
for for ten years and then he's a reality TV
star now, you know, like if he was if he
was really that bad of a person, he wouldn't be married,
successful and all that, and a lot of players speak
very glowingly of him, but he didn't seek the personal spotlight,
so a lot of people had had sort of a
bad image of him. Aaron Rodgers is kind of like that,
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to where people look at him as a little aloof
maybe a little arrogant, and that's sort of the narrative
that surrounds him. What is he really like in your opinion? Man,
you're talking I mean you're talking about I mean, easily
one of the best teammates I've ever had, but I
mean Aaron me and Aaron. Man, he's that's an extremely
good friend man. And I hate when I walk around
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and people say, man, how's airing? Like sometimes that's the
first question you get and I'm like, dude, what do
you mean? How's Aaron? Aaron is probably the best dude
in the world, man, Like, I mean, shoot, got he
got the back seven, always calling me, checking up on me,
you know what I mean, comes to my kids football games,
you know, when he's down here, down here in Arizona.
I'm like, Man, I couldn't ask for like not only
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a teammate, but a better friend, you know what I'm saying.
Him and him and my oldest son, little James, think
they're like best friends. He comes out watching his little
flag football games. He's only sick. He comes out watching
his flag football games. Man. He's just he's just a
special dude. And and every time somebody comes up to
me and ask me, how's Aaron, I'm like, He's the
greatest dude in the world. That's all I say. You
know what I mean, Like what you mean? What do
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you mean? How's airing? Like I mean, you guys are
going off you know magazine you read or you know,
facial expressions you may see. But I'm like, man, he's
probably the best teammate that I've ever been around. Man.
Just a special to it. Like I said, even when
I retired Man and came into the business of, you know,
being an analyst, he always check up on me. That's
why he was so excited to give me the choose.
It's like he threw me another past, you know what
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I'm say in another touchdown, like man, here, I want
to see you succeed. Man. That's just the type of
type of guy he is. Man, he's a loyal guy,
loyal friend. Man. Like I said, Man, he's just one
of them. He's one of them friends that you want
to have on your side for sure. Now, how much
cheese can Aaron Rodgers buy it that kmart downtown Green
Bay with dollars? Man, man by the whole kmark? You
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know what? But I'm already thinking with him being here, Rodgers,
with all that cheesy do guys, he's still gonna go
in there. They're gonna give it to him for free.
You already know even with all that shud. Yeah, It's
it's amazing how that works. Man. Like you work, You
work your ass off all life. You probably you slum
it for a little while, and then finally you get
money to afford things. You don't have to spend it
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any of this. It's it's amazing. I do want to
ask James Jones, super Bowl champion, NFL network analyst with
us here on Fox Sports Radio. He broke the story
of Aaron Rodgers extension. I still want to see his
journalism degree. I will listen. He doesn't need it now,
you're um, I you And I'm not just saying this
because you're on the air. I would say it off
the air because I I try not to kiss anybody's ass.
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But I think you're fantastic as an analyst. I've seen yeah,
and so for you the transition from player to analysts.
Rob and I were talking about this earlier with Bruce
Arians is has it been difficult when you want to
be critical of somebody in the league that you had
a relationship with it maybe makes a bad decision or
makes a bad play. Have you gotten any negative feedback
(42:31):
from former teammates or players about some of your analysts
work that you've done and being critical of former of
current players. You know, what I can't say is that
it is very difficult because a lot of guys that
I played with an extremely close with. Sometimes I'll make
a bad play and I'm like, damn, I don't want
to get on him, but sometimes sometimes you know, to
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being an analyst, you gotta do that. But since every
since every oh since I've played, I've always been one
of those guys and if you played with me, been
in the locker room where I've always been one of
those guys to shoot it straight. I never sugarcoatd nothing,
not even when I played. And I want an analyst.
So like when a lot of guys see me on
TV and I do get on them, they will send
(43:13):
me a text like laughing like dude, you crazy. Huh?
You know what I mean? I do got to do
better right here, you know what I'm saying. So I
kind of built that relationship with guys where if you
come to day they asked me a question, you know,
I'm always gonna shoot it straight. You know, I'm always
gonna be a teammate in their cracking jokes. Always always
given it to you raw and then cut. So I
think that has actually held me. And another thing I'll
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do is if I get on a guy that I
played without texting my heye, bro, I just got on you, brother.
Don't be mad at me. Somebody you know, trying to
soften it up a little bit, but just to let
him know like, man, I love you, bro. I have
to but more TV. But but do you understand now
being on the other side, like the reporters who covered
you and the jobs that we have. I think when
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guys get in this business, they understand that we're not
out to get you. It's just a job that we
have to do. Yeah, And I think, I mean, I mean,
it's crazy you say that because I mean when I
played you, you read in the article you feel like
the guy is you know what I mean? The analysts
is always trying to get you, and uh, you know, right,
bad stuff and who just want the bad stories and
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some reporters that you know really are looking out for
you and run want to write the good story. So
as a player, you really want to stay away from
it all, you know what I mean, the good stories
in the bad story. You know, you want to stay
away from it all. But be being on this side now,
I try not to really talk about too much bad stuff,
and I try to really just the courage dudes on there. Man,
(44:41):
it was a bad player to play and and they
do that as well. But I try not to get
in to all the bad stuff, and I just try
to take the positive out of he dropped it. But hey, listen,
heck up a round James Jones, he is a Super
Bowl champion. NFL network analysts. You can see him on
NFL Total Out Access on NFL Network at seven pm
(45:02):
Eastern time all throughout the week. Um, congrats on all
your success and you can retire undefeated as an insider.
You broke the Aaron Rodgers news. Good for you, James,
thanks so much for the time. I'm gonna hang them up. Yeah,
thanks James. Congrats. Man should
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I've been looking forward to doing a show. Yeah, that's
(01:03):
gonna be fine. It's gonna be fun. We'll do it.
We're gonna get in some trouble, I believe, I think so.
When they're gonna come from upstairs down to the studio. Yeah,
we will. We will be getting a Shapiro bomb. I
think at some point unplug He'll just come down, Scott.
I'm just unplugged my microphone, Like, what are you doing?
A very violent man, very violent man. He is. Um.
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All right, So Rob Parker, let's let's get as started,
because we have got a quarterback who just got really,
really wealthy. Before we talk about that, I do want
to mention the dominoes that have fallen in the New
York Jets quarterback situation. Teddy Bridgewater has been traded to
the New Orleans Saints. Just yeah, just happened, and the
Jets have officially announced Sam Donald as the starting quarterback
(01:48):
week one Monday Night at Detroit in Matt Patricia's debut.
Now I know you are a die hard Detroit Lion fan.
No no, um, Rob Parker is actually doing the show
right now in a dominic Reola Jersy. The Oh my god,
he founded at Macy's. It was four bucks, that's right.
(02:10):
But but okay, So, so Sam Donald is a starter.
We're gonna have plenty on that. We've got an NFL
insider joining us coming up. In about fifteen minutes from now.
All the details on that will be coming up, but
we want to start with Aaron Rodgers, who got a
brand new contract some of the details. It was reported
by James Jones, his former teammate. That was the story
(02:31):
that Aaron Rodgers was going to basically give the info
to James Jones to release to the public. James Jones
will be joining us later on as well too. Um
it's we've been hearing stuff around eighty million dollars guaranteed.
He's going to be due uh eight to ninety by March.
A lot of money, but a big time contract extension
(02:51):
for Aaron Rodgers, right. The total package was one but
it's the money that we talk and we'll know the
details of that as throughout the course of the day
and we'll figure out just all of that as it
comes up. But it gets to the point of, well,
why is Aaron Rodgers worth that kind of money? And
from my understanding, you feel like, well, why isn't he
(03:15):
He's the best quarterback I've ever seen play the position,
not the most accomplished. There's a difference between the two.
But Jonas I would say to you, what doesn't he do.
I've seen this guy do everything with the football. He
can throw uh distance, he has a great arm, he
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has great touch, accuracy, accuracy. He has the greatest, not
one of the greatest quarterback rating in the history of
the NFL, all the quarterbacks stacked up, he has the
greatest quarterback rating. He also has the greatest touchdown to
interception ratio, something like four to one. Not Tom Brady
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is not even like two and a half to one.
It's not even close like the next guy. That's how
good it is. So I think he deserves to be
the highest paid guy. People want to say, well, he's
only won one Super Bowl. I get it. And I'm
not one of these guys who's gonna say when he wins,
it's all his doing, and when he loses, never his
(04:18):
his doing. I get it. He still gets lumped in
with the Green Bay Packers, who have had a chance
to go to a couple more Super Bowls. We saw
in Seattle against Seattle where they choked that down. There
was a trip to the Super Bowl sitting right there
on sidekick tight end not couldn't catch the ball. Uh.
Seattle recovered and wind up stealing that game and trip
(04:39):
to the Super Bowl away from them, but there were others. Uh.
So he has won super Bowl. He's batting a thousand.
Does he need to win another Super Bowl for his legacy? Absolutely?
I believe in always anybody can win once where everything
the stars aligned, everything works out right, and can it
never happens again. When you win twice three times, it's
(05:02):
about you, then I know you have something to do
with this when you can do it. So he has
to win another one, But I have no issue. I
don't care how much money Green Bay gave him. I
don't care if they have money left over for other people.
That's not his concern. Aaron Rodgers should be kept compensated.
And that's what they did to that. Yeah, And and
(05:22):
the latest details and again the guaranteed money number has
changed a couple of times, with the latest according to
Adam Schefter of ESPN is it's a hundred and three
million dollars total. And again the number has changed because
we heard around eight to nine d and then it
moved around. So regardless, it's a record setting deal as
far as guaranteed goes in the NFL. And so that
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people out there will look at this and say, well,
what does it do to the rest of the roster,
because if you've got all this money tied up in
Aaron Rodgers, what happens to the rest of the roster.
There's just a reality in the NFL. You either have
a great quarterback or you don't. And if you don't
have one, what does that mean? You have no shot them?
And and and you have to build in other areas.
(06:04):
I look at it like this. I think that and
I was making this comparison like nobody's perfect, but I
also believe that nobody's completely lost either. Um, you could
be short, you could be fat, you could be bald,
you could smell, but you probably got a lot of
money or you got I mean, you have to have something.
Somebody has something has I totally agree with that, And
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I think the way NFL teams look at this nowadays
is they think to themselves, all right, who do we
have as a quarterback? Well, if you don't have Aaron Rodgers,
or you don't have Tom Brady, or you don't have
Drew Brees, you have what would be considered a step
below at quarterback, which means you have to put your
money into pieces around him to improve the totality of
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the roster. If you do have one of those elite quarterbacks,
you can afford to put your money into him because
he makes so many people on the team that much greater.
And so when people look at the deal and think, man,
that's gonna tie up, they're gonna be cash trapped and
that's gonna tie up the money. They can't afford this.
They can't afford that they're shopping is different than your shopping. Okay,
(07:12):
when you're shopping, you need to find pieces around you
to try and improve that quarterback and build him up.
We've seen it with the Rams and Jared Goff. We've
seen it with the Eagles and Carson Wentz. The Eagles
built up that roster so well. They want a Super
Bowl with Nick Foles, who was awful in St. Louis
not that long ago, and what about four or five
(07:34):
star players has also hurt. That's how and they knew that.
That's why they looked at Carson Wentz and said, on
his rookie deal, let's load up around him and let's
get as many star players as we can and build
the deepest, best roster possible. The Rams did it with
Jared Goff. The Bears are trying to do it with
Mitch Drabinski. How that plays out, we'll see, but it's
(07:57):
just a different in financial philosophy. You either have a
guy that you pay a ton of money too because
he deserves it and he's elite and he's gonna make
everybody better, or you don't and that money's got to
go somewhere while you still got that quarterback on the
rookie deal. Good for Aaron Rodgers. I totally get the move.
He's worth every single penny, no doubt. And he's one
of those guys sometimes they give a deal out and
(08:19):
you go, I don't know if I really feel good
about it, even though it's not your money. Yeah, the
the NBA two years ago, all right, when they were
just turning over money to people, and you were like,
really like this guy getting like who was it? Who
was the player for? For who was the highest paid
player at one point? From was a Memphis or the guard?
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Remember that even he had made more money than any
player and who had ever played in the NBA and
the guy had never made an All Star team. I've
never remember that. I've never been more ashamed at being
six too and not all that athletic than when Evan
Turner got seventy million and I thought Jesus just away money.
(09:03):
But in this case, Aaron Rodgers to me, I don't
know how you can look at the guy and I
you know, yes, he's been injured a couple of times,
but if you look at his body of work and
what he's been able to do, and I love the
way he just plays. There are a few guys I
don't root for teams. You know what. I've been a
journalist for thirty two years. You're not a Lions fan.
I could have sworn your alliance. No, no, oh no,
(09:26):
not at all. Big Matt Stafford guy here, I mean
Pat Stafforst is that guy? Statad first, that guy unbelievable.
But no. Um So when you see a guy who
can do the things that he's done and you could,
I appreciate watching him. I really They were a handful
(09:48):
of guys who I would say that I would pay
money as a sportswriter, I would pay my money to
go see. Say I didn't live in that city and
Aaron Rodgers was coming to play, I would go buy
a ticket to watch him play. That's how good he is.
And I think that's why he's separate from a lot
of other guys. And here's the thing about Rogers as well, too,
because if you're one of those people out there that
(10:09):
are saying, why would you put a hundred and three
million dollars guaranteed in a quarterback who's dealing with injuries
the past couple of years and he's thirty four years old? No, No,
he's sad his first three years. We're talking about a
thirty one year old. He didn't go through the beating
other guy's got. So if you're looking at Tom Brady
(10:30):
now Aaron Rodgers, I'm not saying he's in the same
which doctor that Tom Brady's using. What I'm saying, here
we go. What I'm saying, there's a good chance that
Aaron Rodgers will be able to play down the road
a little longer as well. And let me tell you something.
Brady's playing at forty years old. Okay, So let's let's
look at Rogers. If he continues to play at this level,
(10:52):
and even if he diminishes a little bit, which just
happens with time, that's it's it's normal. Time is undefeated. Course,
Aaron Rodgers six years from now, at forty I mean,
what record won't that guy have? I mean, who knows
what the hell he's got. So I think it was
a good deal for the Packers. I totally get the
move absolutely. I think if you're a Packer fan, you're
happy he's not going anywhere. He's not gonna be disgruntled.
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He could just go out and play football, and uh, congrats,
good good for him. That money, you'll go a long
way in Green Bay, by the man. Jeez, that's like
eight dollars to adopt walking into the store with a
fifty spot, you know exactly. They don't even take those
at the cash register. Have you been in downtown Green Bay?
There's a kmart. Not too much else going on down there. Uh.
(11:37):
Rob Parker Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieb here on
Fox Sports Radio. You can always check out this show
on the I Heart Radio app. You can get Rob
on Twitter and I'm sure you will let him know
how much you appreciate is Tom Brady comments at Rob
Parker FS one. You can also get me at the
Jonas Knox and if you would like to tweet Aaron
Rodgers and uh and ask him his opinion of his
(11:59):
new record breaking deal. Just tweet him at j S
Ramos zero six, Aaron Rodgers running John Ramo's Twitter account. Yeah,
I believe. So alright, there you go. We know now alright,
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, we are
going to find out why one move in the NFL
just changed the future for a Hall of Fame coach.
(12:21):
That's next year on FSR. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon
eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Teddy Bridgewater gets traded to the
New Orleans Saints. The compensation is a third round pick,
so the Saints. Um So, the Jets traded a sixth
round pick along with Teddy Bridgewater to the New Orleans
(12:45):
Saints for a third round pick. So now New Orleans
in next year's draft has one pick in the first
three rounds. Um. From from my understanding, they've got one
pick in the first three rounds. And the Jets have
named Sam Donald their starting quarterback for Week one, Monday
Night against the Detroit Lions. Now, I think that's an
interesting matchup because the brand new head coach for the
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Detroit Lions is Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia was the defensive
coordinator for the New England Patriots for years. The team
Matt Patricia game planned against for years and years was
the New York Jets. He knows that team really well.
I'm fascinated to see on a national stage how Matt
Patricia is going to gear up against a rookie quarterback.
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You've seen this play out before, you mentioned Matt Ryan.
How is Detroit going to They've got a couple of
things happening. They've got a brand new head coach and
potentially new hope there, and then they've got a rookie
they I mean, I've heard it all. Oh, this is
finally the year, the year to Lions win four in
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a preseason. You know what they did that season, So
so come on, you gotta you gotta keep the positive. Mean,
so yeah, I've seen that. I just think it's great.
Here you are, you got your You know, the Jets
were supposed to win two games and get him, and
then somehow they won five games and everybody thought, Okay,
(14:08):
the one year you're supposed to be awful and get
your franchise quarterback, you you mess it up by winning
more games than you should have. Somehow, the Giants passed
up on him, knowing that they need a franchise quarterback
as time continues to tick on Eli right and take
a running back. Okay, gives the Jets an opening at
number three day get their guy. I love the way
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that they're going into the season with the idea of
our Messiah has shown up. We're going to put him,
give him his sandals, his fish, his loincloth, whatever, and
put him out there and let's see what happens. And
I'm not saying I'm looking for perfection. He has to
go out there and be the quarterback, the age veteran
(14:50):
and don't do everything right and never throw a pick. No,
he's gotta learn how to play. You throw him on
the road, you throw him against the team like the Lions.
You just said, Matt Patricia the new coach there, and
I don't know, maybe you go out and you see
from day one you've got something different. If somehow he
goes out there. If you're a Jets fan, they go
to Detroit and they win Game one with the look
(15:14):
it was crazy with Mark Sanchez and he's not half
the quarterback the same Donald and and Mark Sanchez for
all the ripping that with the butt fumble and all that.
He won four road playoff games. I've tell people all
the time, go look up how many quarterbacks good quarterbacks
have won four road playoff games, including beating Tom Brady
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and the Patriots in Foxboro. I know, Mark Sanchez, I
don't think it's enough credit for that. And those Jets
teams were they were closed, yeah, and they were really clear.
They had a lead against Indianapolis in the a f
C title game. They were closed twice and they didn't
get there and Rex Ryan and then the bet worst
thing that ever happened to the Jets after that was
they didn't get there, right, they lost, and then the
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Giants out of nowhere one Net Super Bowl and then
so it was like New York all the way back
to the Giants and nobody people didn't care about. Of course. Um.
The other angle to this, to this story, in this
trade and what it means is Teddy Bridgewater is now
the backup quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. Um. I
love the move for the Saints. And here's why. One,
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it's an insurance policy. Anything happens to Drew Brees and look,
you you never know what could happen. He's getting up
there in age. He had a major injury earlier in
his career. You never know what could happen. And you
don't want to be in the position that some other
teams are where you lose your quarterback and it's a
disaster only quarterback. I e. The Colts, I E. The
Green Bay Packers from a year ago, and what happened
(16:38):
with Philly your team? What had the m v P
of the NFL until he got hurt? There you lose
your quarterback. Everybody writes you off that it's not gonna happen.
And what did he do? He do? What does he do?
He beats Tom Brady? And I'll play Tom Brady in
the Super Bowl and win you a champion. Yeah, And
I think the Saints look at their situation because let's
(16:59):
be honest here the Minneapolis miracle, the Saints probably should
have been in the NFC Title Game, and I actually
would have picked them to beat Philadelphia. I thought I
thought New Orleans had a legitimate shot to do that.
But as you know, what happened and the miracle and
all that stuff, the Saints were limitated. They feel like
they've got a roster because they hit home runs in
the draft. Defensively a year ago. All of a sudden,
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they found a defense. The old line is solid. They've
got an actual running game behind Drew Brees. Got a
couple of running I mean really good, even though mark
Ingram was missing the first four games. I love Camara,
I love mark Ingram. There's a lot to like about
the Saints. Also, if this isn't a insurance policy, it
may not be ideal for Teddy Bridgewater to go to
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a place where he's playing behind a Hall of Fame
quarterback who's probably going to break the record for career
passing yards in Week five or six in the NFL.
He's on pace to do it. They've got their quarterback
of the future. Like look at every team that's got
a veteran level quarterback, the Packers, the Patriots, the Saints.
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Only the Saints have their quarterback in the future. And
Teddy Bridgewater, who's still what twenty five years old, has
got a lot of potential. He's very well liked, very
well respected. Him working with Sean Payton. There's hope down
the road. The Saints have been looking for the air
apparent for quite a while and this isn't talked about enough.
The Patriots moved up to to draft Jimmy Garoppolo because
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the Saints were going to take him. They looked at
Jimmy Garoppolo the same way that the Patriots did because
back then New Orleans. Ryan Pace was an executive in
New Orleans. He went to Eastern Illinois. Sean Payton was
the head coach in New Orleans. He went to Eastern Illinois.
They loved Jimmy Garoppolo. They've been hearing about him for
a while. They were going to take Jimmy Garoppolo, and
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the Patriots uh jumped over them and they grabbed him.
So the Saints have been trying to find a guy.
I'll bet in New Orleans their ecstatic Right now here
is your third round pick. If anything happens to Drew
this year, we've got our guy and moving forward, we've
got our no doubt about it. I agree with that.
I don't. I could see why the Stage did it.
It makes total sense, and I understand why the Jets
did it. You don't need three. You got McCown there right,
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of course, you don't need another. You don't need another
guy to have Teddy Bridgewater sitting there a hold a clipboard.
It makes no sense. The Jets had to give up
some picks in order to move up right to get
to the third spot. So now to get a pick back.
I like it. And and you and you name Sam Donald,
No if Ans or Buds, no him. And in Han
he's the guy count to back up and this and
(19:36):
we go forward and that's how it's played. And uh,
it makes me wonder what's gonna happen with r G
three because r G three was in a similar spot
as Teddy Bridgewater. Listen, the knock on r G three
was can't stay healthy. Um didn't play smart outside of
the pocket. That's why he had the injuries. He's a
little guy, he's bulked up. He's bulked up. He's looked
(19:57):
better in the preseason and he's out played Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
but you just drafted. Of course, I just don't see
no way, right. But but I wonder what kind of
deal is going to be out there for in r
G three, Like, if you're a team out there, I
would I would, I'd give up a mid round pick
for RG three to see what you got. Why not?
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It's one of those things he had such an unbelievable,
like the best rookie season ever at quarterback right numbers wise,
and to see him fall that far with the injuries,
and he's almost branded now, right, Like you looked at
him and there's just there's a bad taste in your
mouth left over what happened, no doubt about it. And
sometimes people I don't think people even think of him
(20:40):
as a viable option other than like a backup quarterback.
And he's not old either, because what you know, you
get kind of wedged in somewhere and people look at
you that way. I think that happened, yeah, and I
think that's happened with him. So I'm curious to see
how that plays out because they are in a similar spot.
To your point, you don't need three quarterbacks on the roster.
Nobody carries three quarterbacks. You're not gonna put r G
(21:01):
three on the practice squad. This doesn't make any it doesn't.
It makes no sense whatsoever. So that he's probably gonna
be traded to a cut right and and and there
will and and they're playing Washington, which is you know,
one of the great coincidences that he's probably playing for
a job and his future in the NFL against and
it's going to be the Redskins. So as as chance
(21:23):
would have it, be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon eastern three
pm Pacific. Right now, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
Bruce Arians, two time Super Bowl champion, former head coach,
now an analyst with CBS and is also he's got
a book out, Rob Bruce Arians has a book out
called The Quarterback Whisper, and he joins us now here
(21:45):
on Fox Sports Radio. Bruce, thanks so much for the time.
We appreciate it. Oh, thanks you guys. Glad to be
on so we have I I saw the Football Life
documentary on with you. Um, you have a reputation for
letting it fly as far as the vocabulary goes. How concerned?
How concerned are you? Or was that part of the
discussion with CBS in doing these games, that you don't
(22:08):
drop an F bomb every week? Yeah? I think that
was all the networks that look confronted, you know, and
uh and my interviews. I had to convince them that
I could actually I did have another voc so that
that would help. Yeah, that that would probably be one
way too. It would be like showing up for a
job interview and they smell booze on your breath. You know,
(22:28):
it's probably not a good thing to drop a bunch
of bombs. But are you are you looking forward to
it that? What was the tryout? Like? What was it?
Was it different? Are you excited? Like? How how are
you feeling now? I feel great? We got our first game.
We had the the Detroit Tampa game the other night.
Uh done in Tampa and right off to that we
had an hour rain delay with lightning and uh my
(22:49):
beginning went to eight minutes, so it was it was
five by the seat of your pants. And uh, I'm
so lucky to have great Gumble and try Grain. I mean,
you talk about two great professionals to learn how to
do this thing. That the hard part. I always think
when people leave the field as a player or a
coach and then they go onto the broadcast booth is
you still have a lot of people you know and
(23:10):
friends and connections and you know, uh stuff, And sometimes
it's hard for guys to make that transition and criticize
people and say stuff when they're not playing well. And
it's not only a critical you know, you're you're not
only criticizing, but sometimes that could be difficult. Have you
thought about that at all? Oh? Yeah, I was playing
(23:31):
golf with them Aflsburger this summer. I said, you know,
there's a really good chance my first game is gonna
be Pittsburgh Cleveland. He kind of looks me, what are
you gonna say? Said, dude, I'm gonna telling the truth.
I know what are you gonna say yet? Man? But yeah,
that would be my That would be my advice. Man.
You can't go wrong with the truth. Yeah, and so
(23:51):
you know, we were laughing about it and uh so, yeah,
and actually that is my first game. I'm with Pittsburgh
and Cleveland. Oh that's great. Bruce arians, former NFL head coach,
two times Super Bowl champion, with us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Why was it time to walk away from coaching? Um?
I remember hearing uh and and in seeing that documentary
(24:12):
that you and your wife had set on retirement. You
guys were gonna go move. I think it was to
Alabama if I remember it correctly. And you guys had
had completely or or down to the South somewhere and
you completely set you're good and then you got called
back by Chuck Pogando to come be a coach again.
And next thing you know, you're filling in for Chuck Pogano.
You do an amazing job with Andrew Luck and that team.
Now you're the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. You
(24:34):
had success there. Why now it was? It was really
much a family decision. You know. It was a Ralph Thanksgiving.
I had had some health scares, nothing serious, but scarce
and my wife said, you know, I'm not sure I
could do this anymore. I said, you know what, I'm
not sure I can't either. And it really was it
(24:55):
was time and uh, no better way to go out
to a field goal and see out on the last
play the game and beat beat the Seahawks and uh
and you know, got our fiftieth win. And it was
it was like it was perfect time. And Bruce. The
Jets today traded Teddy Bridgewater and they named Sam Donald
the starting quarterback. I love to just get a guy,
(25:18):
put him in there. The only way you're gonna learn
how to play quarterback is actually playing it. Or do
you like this the way that the Jets are moving
forward with him? Or would you have liked to see
him sit down a year or so and figure it
out first. No, I love it. I mean it's the
same thing we did with Peyton Manning. He was ready
and we drafted him for that reason. You know, when
when you said don't start, you also don't get any
(25:39):
practice time, so you just waste a year. Um, now
they're gonna be bumps in the road. But this guy's talented.
I really like his demeanor. I think Todd does too,
so I mean it's hey, let's let's give him the
keys to the car. And uh, obviously, I think all
the rest of the players on the Jets are excited
about it, and uh, he's just gonna get better. But
(26:01):
he's gonna have up so he's gonna have downs. I
think he's one of those guys is just gonna handle
them all the same. Bruce arians with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. We I've always heard this that if
you put a rookie quarterback in, you can't take him out.
But it seems like it's different at other positions. If
you put a running back in and he's not playing
well initially, you know he can get benched. Why is
(26:22):
it at the quarterback position that you need to just
deal with what the quarterback goes through without benching him
for poor play. But it's not like that at other positions. Yeah,
because it's such a hard position to play. I mean,
you're gonna get scars, and you don't want the scars
to be too deep. You start benching guys and then
bring them back. Then the scars get way too deep.
(26:43):
Then they're then they're playing to please you rather than
be the other team. Hey, let him know this is
your team. You're gonna you're gonna screw it up, but
you're gonna make some plays too. Let's make more plays
than your screw up. Bruce. What about the a f C.
I know everybody just likes to hand it everything over
to the Patriots every year before anything gets started. But
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Jacksonville had a great defense last year, had a twenty
to ten leading going into the fourth quarter at Foxboro.
They wind up not winning the game and not getting
to the super Bowl. But I still like Jacksonville. Who
do you like in the a f C? Oh Man,
I think there's three or four teams. I mean, you
always started with the Patriots, But yeah, Jacksonville's defenses they're legit,
(27:27):
whether or not Blake Borders and actually take him there. Uh,
I was not. I know he was relaxed this preseason,
but I didn't see him get better. UM, So that one,
that one scares me. If they can score enough points.
I love the Steelers because I love Ben Roethlisberger. I
think he's got a chance, like Tom Brady's, be the
m v P of the league with that offense they have.
(27:49):
If their defense can show up this year, Um, and
then I guess it's it's pretty much the Houston Texans.
If j J watch stay south to Jadaveon Clowney, stay healthy.
Deshaun Watson is going to score points, no doubt. I
really I would really watch out for the for the
Texans this year. And uh in the West, I don't
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know that that one's kind of like going up in
the air. Um, anybody can win it. I don't know
how far they're going to go. The Chargers seem to
be the most complete team. Bruce Arians, two times Super
Bowl champion, former NFL head coach, now an analyst with
CBS Sports, is with us here on Fox Sports Radio
in for Doug gott Leevi, it's Rob Parker and Jonas
(28:30):
Knox here on FS are UM coach. We were talking
about just some of the quarterback developments around the league.
You had mentioned um and we had talked about you
spending time in Indianapolis and talked about scarring and things
like that. Andrew Luck, is it how confident are you
that he can get back to where he was before
or did he take such a pounding the past couple
(28:52):
of years that he may have been scarred and moving
forward it might be an issue. No, because andrews the
linebacker playing quarterback. His mindset is unbelievable. Now. I think
you know, all these young quarterbacks when they come in,
they have to win the locker room over, so they
do crazy things to show how tough they are. I
think Carson Wentz and I think Andrew Luck are two
(29:15):
guys that they've they've earned their stripes. Now they don't
have to show how tough they are anymore, so they'll
play smartyr as far as injury wise. But it's in
Andrew's d n a uh to be a really tough player.
His arm looks. The other night I watched him and
I was so happy to see him back. I mean,
the league needs just this. He was when I had
(29:36):
him his rookie year. I've never been around a rookie
and I had Peyton Manning, I was around Ben, Timmy Couch.
I mean Timmy was a third year player. But what
he did as a rookie was amazing because he had
six other rookies starting with him on offense, which was
unheard of. Yeah, that's a lot right there, and no doubt. Um,
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you mentioned Carson wins at and this is the reason
I like the Eagles again. They're getting back. They lost
a lot of good players last year right to injury.
They're bringing these guys back. Um, they were already stacked.
They won a super Bowl. But Carson Wentz, I know
he's wanted got a Super Bowl ring. But you know,
(30:19):
this guy was on the verge of wing the m
v P of the league before he got hurt. Does
it good when you have a quarterback who has something
to prove, who has to something to pick up? You know, like, Okay,
yeah we won the super Bowl, but I didn't get
to do what I was on the verge of doing
last year. And he has like an added uh instead
of to keep those guys focused and to try to
(30:40):
win again. Whereas if you're asking Nick Foles to repeat
what he did last year. That's that's a tall order.
If if they had to rely on just Nick Foles
duplicating what he did last year. Yeah, I don't think
there's any doubt. I mean they did. That was one
of the best coaching jobs I've ever seen done with
Doug Peterson did with Nick Foles. Uh, and going back
(31:00):
and doing a lot of stuff that they did with
Chip Kelly when he was successful. Carson wentz Is I mean,
he's he's an animal. I mean, this guy's he's legit.
And like you said, you want a hungry quarterback. Everybody
else probably and I've been there, they're all a little complacent. Yeah,
a little fat, It goes. It goes with the territory.
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I mean, you don't win the championship and not get
a little fat, little complacent. He's not. He's hungry as
hell and he wants to win. So I think it's
gonna He's gonna drive that bus and get the rest
of those guys readier role. Bruce Arians, I do want
to ask you about the book The Quarterback Whisper, How
to Build an elite NFL Quarterback. I just want to
ask you a follow up, though I'm sposed to the
(31:42):
quarterback whip. Of course, yeah, I can't wait. I'm a listen.
I'm a sucker for football books and documentaries, I really am,
so I will be definitely reading this. Um. But I
want to ask you, because you mentioned quickly about Chip Kelly.
We chip Kelly kind of has a negative vibe attached
to him, I think from NFL fans and NFL media
members with how things ended in Philadelphia, but from a
coaching standpoint, as somebody who has forgotten more about NFL
(32:06):
schemes and the NFL game than most people even know.
How what is Chip Kelly's reputation like around the league
and in football circles? From people you talked to? A
brilliant mind? I mean, Chip is he's an innovator. Um.
I have the most respect for what he attempted to
(32:26):
do and and did I mean his first couple of
years we got lucky and beat him a couple of times.
But uh, it takes a coaching staff in the front
office that is so in sync anymore to win and
get the players that the coaches want to coach and
the scouts wanted to have on their team. That is
(32:46):
such a tough blend. And Um'm not saying they didn't
have it in Philly. But I don't think it was
as good as it could have been. And but Chip
Kelly is one one of the best offensive minds out there.
Um tell us about the book, Bruce arians the Quarterback Whisper,
How to Build an Elite NFL Quarterback? Um, why what
was the reason the decision to write the book to
(33:08):
be a part of the book this soon after your
coaching career and where can people find it? Well, actually
it's on Amazon. It's it's coming out in paperback. It's
been out for a year and a half and it
came out last summer and hard back, and uh, I
was shocked. I mean I never thought I'd ever read
a book, but we were on Amazon's hot best seller
list for a long time and it's now coming out
(33:30):
in paperback, and uh yeah, it was just it's just
stories of the guys. You know, I was so fortunate
in my career to have such great quarterbacks and each
and every one of them is so unique and just
just talking about those of what it takes to be
an elite player. That's awesome. Well, good luck, coach, Congratulations
on retirement. You're gonna You're gonna do a hell of
a job at CBS being an analyst for the NFL.
(33:52):
You've always been one of our favorites. Uh so again,
congrats on all your success on retirement and what's going
to turn into a successful broadcasting career. We appreciate it.
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(34:14):
listen live. Right now though, James Jones, super Bowl champion,
NFL network analysts and now NFL insider, is with us
here on Fox Sports Radio. James, thanks so much for
popping on. We appreciate it. Not a problem man, Thanks
for having me. Um so, so, how does this work?
Because you you you you've got a Super Bowl ring,
(34:36):
successful NFL career, you become an analyst and now you're
an insider and you broke the biggest story of the day,
Aaron Rodgers. Did he reach out to you personally? Did
his did his agent tell you about it? How did
this work? Well? First of all, I want to say
I'm the inside, I am analyst, I'm want happened to
(34:57):
be a very good friend of the ever just man
being him, got a very good relationship man. So you know, uh,
he was very kind to let me break the news
and let me know when it's when it always gonna
go down. But no, Man, how it happened man, Um,
you know, just over the over the last year or so,
man with you know, the Jordy Nelson getting released and
(35:18):
you know me and to really being close to being
able to break up where he's a contract um information. Uh,
We're extremely close, man, It's a family. So Aaron was
you know way back there was just like, hey, Man,
when it's my turn, Man, I would love to have
you doing we played together. I just think it'll be
cool to have to have you do that, uh and
break the charger. And I said, I'm all up for man,
I'm down for that. Eventually it happened, Man, And I'm
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from grandy for man just as you know, be a
packer for life, man, be under contract to he you know,
it's about the age of forty man. And you know
he could, you know, bring up more championships the Green
Bay Packers and he deserves every penny of it. I
think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback I've ever seen
throw to football. He's not the most accomplish other people
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of one more and done some other things and awards.
But as far as uh playing the position of football,
do you do you feel that way? Do you that
that Aaron can do? What can you do as a quarterback?
And any of the greatest quarterback radio quarterback rating of
anybody who's ever playing the National Football League? Man, I
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wish I could have you by my side because I
tell people that the exact same thing you just told me.
I've never seen and I played regret. I played with
Derek Carr too. Special quarterbacks man, and I just I've
never seen nobody like Daron riding. Man. I'm just talking
about throwing the ball outside of the pocket, throwing the
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ball inside the pocket. Man. Just I mean, he's just
a special talent. We've never seen the quarterbacks like this
kid like Aaron makes throwing man, and he's a he's
a special player. And I tell people all the time,
I believe he's the greatest of all the time because
we've never seen some of these springs that are being made,
especially on the run, and you know, we've never seen
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any of being made. And he's change in the game,
any quarter that comes out of college, any corn that
you know starting to make some plays in the game.
They always say, man, that looks like Aaron Roser, that
looks like Aaron Rodgers, always comparing him to Aaron Rossings.
And to me, that's the evoluement. To me, that shows
that he's probably the greatest to ever play the game. Head.
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He doesn't have to like Tom, but when you show
us about the talent and the product on the field, man,
it's hard to argue against Aaron Rodgers. James Jones, super
Bowl champion NFL Network analysts with us here on Fox
Sports Radio, Jonas Knox, Rob Parker, uh In for Doug Gottlieb.
So we get to the Super bowls um and people
will do the comparisons between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
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Why doesn't Aaron Rodgers have more Super Bowls? Man, that's
a lot that goes into Man, I know, I played
with Aaron Rogers, you know, eight years and I mean
we won the Super Bowl, we were tending six, caught
fire one Super Bowl. The next year we come back
to fifteen and one, and then we leave Eggs the
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New York Giants at home after we had a bye week,
uh Rogers, like three weeks off because he didn't play
the last game of the year. I thought that was
a mistake, and you guys came out yeah but my yeah, exactly.
And I mean I don't even want to go back
to that game because you bring it back some bad memories.
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But um, yeah, man, I think it's I think it's
just the luck of the draw, man. I mean, shoot,
as a team, you have to catch fire at the
right time, and in two thousand and ten we did.
And you know a lot of years that we made.
I mean, he made the postseason eight straight times, and
you know, we went in there and just didn't finish
the job, man. And I mean it has nothing to
do with air, nothing to do with the defense, nothing
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to do you know, with the receivers. It's a team thing, man,
and we just went out there didn't get the job done.
So he has one and now he's under contact for
six more years and hopefully out of him six at
least bring us three more. Um. I've always said this,
and and you being so close with Aaron Rodgers, James
Jones with us here on Fox Sports Radio that I
try not to judge athletes, uh and their personalities because
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I have no idea who they are. Like Jay Cutler
was called, you know, an a hole for you know,
for for ten years and then he's a reality TV
star now, you know, like if he was if he
was really that bad of a person, he wouldn't be married,
successful and all that, and a lot of players speak
very glowingly of him, but he didn't seek the personal spotlight,
so a lot of people had had sort of a
bad image of him. Aaron Rodgers is kind of like that,
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to where people look at him as a little aloof
maybe a little arrogant, and that's sort of the narrative
that surrounds him. What is he really like in your opinion? Man,
you're talking I mean you're talking about I mean, easily
one of the best teammates I've ever had, but I
mean Aaron me and Aaron. Man, he's that's an extremely
good friend man. And I hate when I walk around
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and people say, man, how's airing? Like sometimes that's the
first question you get and I'm like, dude, what do
you mean? How's Aaron? Aaron is probably the best dude
in the world, man, Like, I mean, shoot, got he
got the back seven, always calling me, checking up on me,
you know what I mean, comes to my kids football games,
you know, when he's down here, down here in Arizona.
I'm like, Man, I couldn't ask for like not only
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a teammate, but a better friend, you know what I'm saying.
Him and him and my oldest son, little James, think
they're like best friends. He comes out watching his little
flag football games. He's only sick. He comes out watching
his flag football games. Man. He's just he's just a
special dude. And and every time somebody comes up to
me and ask me, how's Aaron, I'm like, He's the
greatest dude in the world. That's all I say. You
know what I mean, Like what you mean? What do
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you mean? How's airing? Like I mean, you guys are
going off you know magazine you read or you know,
facial expressions you may see. But I'm like, man, he's
probably the best teammate that I've ever been around. Man.
Just a special to it. Like I said, even when
I retired Man and came into the business of, you know,
being an analyst, he always check up on me. That's
why he was so excited to give me the choose.
It's like he threw me another past, you know what
(41:02):
I'm say in another touchdown, like man, here, I want
to see you succeed. Man. That's just the type of
type of guy he is. Man, he's a loyal guy,
loyal friend. Man. Like I said, Man, he's just one
of them. He's one of them friends that you want
to have on your side for sure. Now, how much
cheese can Aaron Rodgers buy it that kmart downtown Green
Bay with dollars? Man, man by the whole kmark? You
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know what? But I'm already thinking with him being here, Rodgers,
with all that cheesy do guys, he's still gonna go
in there. They're gonna give it to him for free.
You already know even with all that shud. Yeah, It's
it's amazing how that works. Man. Like you work, You
work your ass off all life. You probably you slum
it for a little while, and then finally you get
money to afford things. You don't have to spend it
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any of this. It's it's amazing. I do want to
ask James Jones, super Bowl champion, NFL network analyst with
us here on Fox Sports Radio. He broke the story
of Aaron Rodgers extension. I still want to see his
journalism degree. I will listen. He doesn't need it now,
you're um, I you And I'm not just saying this
because you're on the air. I would say it off
the air because I I try not to kiss anybody's ass.
(42:09):
But I think you're fantastic as an analyst. I've seen yeah,
and so for you the transition from player to analysts.
Rob and I were talking about this earlier with Bruce
Arians is has it been difficult when you want to
be critical of somebody in the league that you had
a relationship with it maybe makes a bad decision or
makes a bad play. Have you gotten any negative feedback
(42:31):
from former teammates or players about some of your analysts
work that you've done and being critical of former of
current players. You know, what I can't say is that
it is very difficult because a lot of guys that
I played with an extremely close with. Sometimes I'll make
a bad play and I'm like, damn, I don't want
to get on him, but sometimes sometimes you know, to
(42:52):
being an analyst, you gotta do that. But since every
since every oh since I've played, I've always been one
of those guys and if you played with me, been
in the locker room where I've always been one of
those guys to shoot it straight. I never sugarcoatd nothing,
not even when I played. And I want an analyst.
So like when a lot of guys see me on
TV and I do get on them, they will send
(43:13):
me a text like laughing like dude, you crazy. Huh?
You know what I mean? I do got to do
better right here, you know what I'm saying. So I
kind of built that relationship with guys where if you
come to day they asked me a question, you know,
I'm always gonna shoot it straight. You know, I'm always
gonna be a teammate in their cracking jokes. Always always
given it to you raw and then cut. So I
think that has actually held me. And another thing I'll
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do is if I get on a guy that I
played without texting my heye, bro, I just got on you, brother.
Don't be mad at me. Somebody you know, trying to
soften it up a little bit, but just to let
him know like, man, I love you, bro. I have
to but more TV. But but do you understand now
being on the other side, like the reporters who covered
you and the jobs that we have. I think when
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guys get in this business, they understand that we're not
out to get you. It's just a job that we
have to do. Yeah, And I think, I mean, I mean,
it's crazy you say that because I mean when I
played you, you read in the article you feel like
the guy is you know what I mean? The analysts
is always trying to get you, and uh, you know, right,
bad stuff and who just want the bad stories and
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some reporters that you know really are looking out for
you and run want to write the good story. So
as a player, you really want to stay away from
it all, you know what I mean, the good stories
in the bad story. You know, you want to stay
away from it all. But be being on this side now,
I try not to really talk about too much bad stuff,
and I try to really just the courage dudes on there. Man,
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it was a bad player to play and and they
do that as well. But I try not to get
in to all the bad stuff, and I just try
to take the positive out of he dropped it. But hey, listen,
heck up a round James Jones, he is a Super
Bowl champion. NFL network analysts. You can see him on
NFL Total Out Access on NFL Network at seven pm
(45:02):
Eastern time all throughout the week. Um, congrats on all
your success and you can retire undefeated as an insider.
You broke the Aaron Rodgers news. Good for you, James,
thanks so much for the time. I'm gonna hang them up. Yeah,
thanks James. Congrats. Man should
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