October 2, 2025 • 29 mins
Doug riffs about Dan Lanning. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take about field goal kickers. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Jason Kelce makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. There's a there's video out there
of Dan Lanning when they're about to run out last
weekend take on Penn State, and Penn State does that
we are chant and he says his players yells, we
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are about we are about to get our ass kicked.
And there's this and and honestly, frankly, it's something I
struggle with as a coach where I'm a confident dude,
I know when my team's prepared, and yet obviously record
you're like, wow, you're not supposed to, like, how do
you There's just that fine line of knowing you've got
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a good enough team, not being a jerk, but being
confident but not arrogant. And a lot of people make
it a big deal. But the meme or the video
of after the game, did I think he was a
bit of a dick against Oaklahoma State? Yeah, they were
way better, but oklahom State simply couldn't stop the run.
They just lined up and it didn't matter. Who they
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put back there just ran the ball and it was
a complete shellacking. But it did feel like there was
some extra emphasis on it. And you know, it's like,
why are you running it up on a team that's
not any good and taking great joy in it. So
part of me thinks, like, Okay, Landing needs a little
bit of his come up ins. But part of it
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is the former athletes, like I'm actually I kind of
gravitate towards that level of confidence, and so maybe it's
maybe I need to kind of retract my or not retract,
rethink my comments in We talked about this all the time.
The uniforms and the uniform designs are not for me
or you. They're for players, right, They're not made. Do
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they sell him, Yeah, but they're really made. It was
always intense on attracting players. Hey, we're Oregon, we're off
the beaten path, but we have this really cool thing
with Nike where we get the coolest and most unique
uniforms of anybody in the country. That's cool, that has
equity the masses of young people, and I think that
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again those uniforms. If you like him and don't like him,
it doesn't matter. It's not designed for you. Well, that's
the same thing with how Dan Lanning handles himself and
gets ready for games. If you think he's arrogant, that's
fine you can. If you think he's a prick, that's
fine you can't. Or if you think that he's nailing
it or whatever, that's fine. You're allowed to think that.
The only thing that matters is players. How do they
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feel about it? And winning all these games? I think
they feel pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
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Speaker 2 (02:53):
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One show, here's Dan Patrick talking about NFL placekickers.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now, all of a sudden, it's the kickers are ruining
the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've gotten better,
they've gotten stronger, And it goes back to the analytics.
It's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten back to
how do I strengthen my leg? Okay, and you know,
how do we block. If you're kicking a sixty five
yard field goal, well that ball is going to be lower.
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You got to make sure you do your job differently
up front. So but we're seeing more kicks are blocked, well,
more kicks are blocked. It feels like because now we
have longer kicks, we have no problem. Like when the
ball goes out to the thirty five yard line, you're thinking,
we get two first downs, we're in field goal range.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It was like, man, it's fifty yards and then all
of a sudden, it's sixty yards, and then Tom Dempsey
and then it's sixty three yards, and you're thinking, these
guys can kick seventy yards. I think somebody's kicking a
seventy yard field goal this year.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But they do it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You watch them when they practice. Now there's no rush,
there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to
get it that far.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do. It's I was actually on the fifty yard
line of Lucas Oilfield yesterday. We were talking about how
unbelievably skilled those guys are. But yeah, they It's crazy
that two things have happened at once, which is one
NFL kickers have now shown the ability to make sixty
yarders with relative fifty yards with relative ease. And two
we've had all these block kicks. Here's Colin Cowhert talking
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about AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
J McK and I had a disagreement on this. I said,
you an accountant, a judge, a novelist, an actor. In
most careers, you got about twenty five years of prime
and you can work to your seventies. You can't as
a pro football player, and so A J.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And I do think winning matters, but he's already he
got a trophy. I do think if you went to
Kobe and said, listen, you get six shots a game,
Kobe would have been like, peace out, I'm gonna go
somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer yards than the third
Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got money and he's got
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a trophy. His legacy is on the line. He's not necessary.
They try to target him nine targets seven yards most
of the time. He's just not And I think if
I was AJ Brown, this sounds selfish, but I think
pro athletes get cornered into well it's about winning games.
Well that's part of it, and it's transformational money, and
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there's legacies involved. And my take is, if I was
AJ Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia and I'd say quietly,
I'm not gonna screw the market up. I'm not gonna
do a mellow with the Nuggets to the Knicks. I
don't want to be here. Make a deal. I think
AJ Brown has a right to leave. I am defending
him not staying with a better organization. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just I This is the coaching perspective. You won
a Super Bowl, your competitive every year for Super Bowl
AJ Brown not being able to actually shut the fuck
up and play, dude, you can win without AJ Brown.
You'll be just fine. You'll be just fine. I have
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no doubt. I think he's terrific. I think he's a
very good football player. And every wide receiver has this
bit of diva where you know inherently they want the ball,
they think they can win the game on their own.
But but you've won essentially without him a ton. So
he needs to get line, and I do think that
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the time to get him in line is now, not later,
not later. Here's Brady Quinn talking about shod Or Sanders
mining his way through answers in the locker room.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It got to the point where and I had a
couple media people reach out and there are comments were
literally that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing
I've ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people
who've covered it for a long time. And I said
to myself, like, they've seen a lot of things like
that's that's saying something. But supposedly this was in response
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to something that was said on ESPN by someone who's
taken a lot of had a lot of hot takes
so far this year, and this is why he did
what he did, which was just incredibly odd. Like, I
don't even know what to make of that. It comes
off as very immature as a response, even if it
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was to Rex Ryan bizarre. I mean, I've never seen
a player handle things like that before.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'd agree, I'd completely agree with you in that it's
really immature. It's not that these things are not that hard, right.
Ask me what I think about Dylan Gabriel getting to
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getting the starting job. Hey, I'm really happy for Dylan.
I'm going to support him as any quarterback in our
quarterback room should, and I'm gonna be ready if God
forbid something happens. But my job this week is to
get him ready and to keep learning and keep readying
myself for if and when my opportunity comes, that's it.
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But instead he makes a complete He just he makes
a farce of the whole thing. And I've read things
where like, oh, it's brilliant, right. Why would he do
it well? Because in his mind, anything he said would
be used against him. You know, anything he said, the
media is going to turn it against you, like not
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if you just say the right thing.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
So I'm going to go back to my same take.
I don't know if you watched it, but the reporters
were not giving in. The reporters were going to be
there all day until he said a word, and a
member of the Browns media staff actually started doing their
job and they said, that's enough. Guys. I have no
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idea why a team who pays a staff five deep
of media relations people, I don't understand how that staff
allows him to be available for anything because they know
by now that that becomes the story. The Dylan Gabriel
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promotion yesterday was secondary to Shador Sanders acting like a
fucking idiot. Why don't the Browns understand that, and they
don't make him available and they tell reporters he's not
available today. We see this all the time in sports.
I'm sure you have a media staff like this is
what they do. They protect the team from bad publicity.
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That's what their job is.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
To the core.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Um, yeah, but again, like you've been a college star,
you've been in front of the media. You don't know
how to handle this. Again, I'm just I'm asking, like, yet, yes,
you could not. He doesn't have to be available, he
doesn't have to be available. But I do think it's
very normal in this situation to go and hey, we
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want to go to get you do it for coming now.
The truth is the local media knows he hasn't been
the backup quarterback. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dylan
Gabriel is getting first crack at this thing. He was
drafted higher, he's listed hiring the depth chart. It makes
complete and total sense. But if you're twenty two to
twenty three years old, you've started for four years in college,
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your dad was a star, you've had a hammering your
face your whole life. This is this is not hard.
This is not hard. I hear what you're saying this
is not hard not a hard one, not at all. Uh,
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Say.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Speaker 2 (11:26):
Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So something that's kind of taken a life of its
own here on Twitter, and I have not gotten ratioed yet,
so I'm not going to give in. But the number
of critics are increasing and the number of likes are
staying the same, so I might be ratioed pretty quick.
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I'm gonna set this up for the listeners. Fernando Cruz
is a baseball player. He's a reliever, middle reliever for
the Yankees. He came in last night with runners on
first and second in the eighth inning, first and second,
nobody out in a tie game. He gets the first
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dumbass who popped up a bunt, then he got out two,
and then Trevor Story comes up and hits a fastball
that missed. In other words, the fastball needed to be located,
probably out of the strike zone. It got way too
much of the strike zone and Trevor Story hit the
shit out of the ball. It was like twenty feet.
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If he pulls a twenty feet it's a three run homer.
But no, regardless, it was a p shot to the
warning track. It could have been a three run homer.
And this Fernando Cruz guy is acting like the guy
like struck a batter out after a hundred and three
mile power fastball. I mean everyone has seen it, right
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his antics and he's literally chest pounding. Chest pounding, according
to chat GPT, by the way, is a gesture that says,
look at me, look what I just did. Pounding your
chest after giving up a almost moonshot and not doing
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your job and getting that pitch out of the strike zone,
to me, came off as unseemly. I needed to see
more humility in that moment. I needed to see him
thank the gods that he got away with something. But
instead he's sitting there out in front of the dugout
would look at me gestures that's annoying to me, Doug,
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I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
There is something that major league players they know when
a guy's missed. What was the exit vlo on that
one would love to know, like even though it was
warning track, it feels it. It feels like like an
easier out to them than it does to us. I
would say the pounding on his chest was did he
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come in with the runners at first and second? So
getting out of it is the is the thing. But yeah,
the guy nearly took him yard. I get what you're annoyed.
I don't think you'll get ratioed because I think there's
a good percentage of people that agree with you.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I think that there's like a there's a slippage. There's
been a slippage, and what has become accepted. I don't know.
I mean, you're the you're the basketball coach, but like
I don't know shit about basketball. But what does offend
my sensibilities is when a guy misses a big free
throw and he seeks out high fives, Like, you just
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missed the free throw and you're looking for high fives.
I understand the concept of you just missed a big
free throw and your teammates are going to come up
to you and support you. You got this high five,
But why is the shooter who just missed the shots
seeking high five like that to me is like something
that that's fucking weird. That seems like a gen Z thing,
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like I need support type of thing. Does that offend
your sensibilities as much as it does me?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Uh No, because the high five sometimes it's it's guys
way of breaking out of it. The guys have a rhythm.
They always give high fives. So I think you're overthinking
a little bit too much, you know, I just that
would be my That would be my take there.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So I have an issue with the term conspiracy theorist, right,
It's become a pejorative. Uh It's become a way of
kind of dismissing somebody as a fucking imbecile when it basically,
I guess by definition, is just kind of believing in
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something where more than more than two people agreed to
participate in something and keep it a secret. That's what
a conspiracy theory is. It's become a pejorative, it's become political.
I get it. So Jackson Dart pissed some people off
on the left, especially by saying that he doesn't think
that we landed on the moon. Now, this is one
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of those conspiracy theories that that is believed by a
lot of people. There have been books written about it,
there have been movies made about it. The flat Earth thing,
you totally lose me. Like when Kyrie Irving, I think,
said he still thinks Earth is flat, Well, you're just
fucking stupid, and there are there are no reasonable or
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scientific reasons to believe that the Earth is flat. Now
the moon landing thing, and I would I would actually
for people that are just shaking their head right now,
I would encourage people to like seek out a podcast.
Joe Rogan debated this guy named Bart Sibrel. Bart Sibrel
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is the guy who makes the case for the moon
landing being a hoax, how it was all done on
film to win the Battle of the you know, the
space race with the Russians in the heat of the
Cold War. He makes an incredible case. It's it's very interesting.
I'm not saying if you listen to it you're going
to become a conspiracy theorist asshole. I'm thinking if you
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listen to it, you're going to be thought provoked. It's provocative.
It's like, oh, that's another way of seeing something. Maybe
I won't believe everything everybody tells me. Full sail So
Jackson Dart getting shit for believing this conspiracy theory, which
I think is just is interesting. I'm not saying I
believe it's true. I just think that a lot of
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people believe what Jackson Dart does, that we faked the
moon landing to win the space race with the Russians.
But it's just annoying to see him thrown into the
fucking Maga crew because he believes that we faked the spacelanded.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yes, but the Maggot crew has become the conspiracy theorist crew, right,
I mean that's my point. Yes, Yeah, it's a it's
a it's a weird one. When there were when I
when I was in high school, I used to think
the same thing. It had to be that looks like
a sound stage, you know, it looks like a sound stage.
But I am going to download that one. I am
going to listen to it later on today. But okay,
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so those are didn't she have one?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
More so?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Kathy Engelbert sent out a statement everyone knows about the
NOFISA call your Takedown a couple days ago we covered
on our show. And then there's been the Kathy Engelbert statement,
and then there's been the fallout. Scott Van Pelt spent
his I Guess You opinion part of his Sports center
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on it. Steven A says she needs to resign. So
the calls are coming from the rights holder for her
to resign. It's this weird uh, not even a slow
moving coup. It's just a fucking coup. So the rights holders,
the big voices on the rights holders, are saying to
retire or to resign. It's been full throated. Everybody in
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the players Union agrees with the FISA Collier's version of
that conversation. I still maintained two days later that she
probably didn't make up the conversation with all the negative
shit that that the commissioner said, but she sures how
mischaracterized it. It's like, if you, Doug, want to make
a case to your buddies that that chick that broke
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up with you is crazy, they're going to get a
very one sided viewpoint of this check and maybe some
of the things she said, you're going to exaggerate a
little bit because your consensus building, well, the FISA Collier
was consensus building. She wants everybody on her side. I
don't believe a fucking word of how she reapped under
those comments. Now, Kathy Engelbrook could be incompetent, she could
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suck as a leader. I don't really know where care
to be honest, but I just think this is fucking dirty.
Whatever's going on right now is very dirty.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I thank you for bringing this up. Here's the here's
the issue, okay that I almost First of all, I
agree with you on if there's zero percent chance she
said those things in the way in which they're portrayed,
or I believe she said word for word that Nafisia
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Colliers is representing. If she did, I have no problem
I calling for resignation or she should be fired, Like,
no problem with it, right, So that's that's the first thing, Like,
it's just people in charge don't speak like that, especially
to a player. They're not idiots, even if she did
believe it, which I don't believe that she does. The
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second part, here's actually probably the troubling thing is is
that some of her comments two days ago, I think
is when Engelbert actually spoke to the media, some of
her comments and the way in which Nafisia Collier is
taking her comments is diminishing Caitlin Clark really, which by
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the way is what every WNBA player has done. And
Engelbert at her press conference said kept saying like this
is over twenty five years, no one player. She is
actually bowing at the feet of these WNBA ladies, not
saying that their rise to popularity is because of Kaitlyn Clark.
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So she's kissing their ass while pointing out to them
kind of the matter of fact fashion of how it
actually works and whatever, and they still want to get
rid of her. Can we be honest, jay Stu, do
you think that if the CBA deal was different that
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because because here's what's happening, They're gonna the w NBA
players want to walk out on the deal, on their deal, okay,
they want this offseason to be and they're like, hey,
we maybe we don't play next year. So my guess
is this is a coup to get somebody more player
friendly in there. Player friendly means they get a more
prayer friendly deal, they get a more player friendly deal,
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and suddenly now they have a commissioner that they like.
And the crazy part about it is she's kissing their ass,
acting like they're not popular just because of Kaitlyn Clark.
Went that's the reality to it. Kaitlin Clark has brought
them to a whole new level of popularity. Would this
happen if she was African American? It's a question interesting
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what would it happened if you know? Because look, here's
the way, here's the here, here's my issue with I
don't know if it's woke or whatever. I don't know
what they're but this is what's happening. Anybody who's in
charge they want to get rid of. I mean, people
came out to Roger Goodell for years and the whole
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point that the owners made and I'm sure the WNBA
owners are probably thinking, is Engelbert actually done a pretty
good job. We're actually making some money now, like getting
new TV deals.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So I just I think this is dirty pool. I
don't think. And by the way, like Steven A. You
don't have you talked to the commissioner of the WNBA
because you're Steven if. This is my biggest problem with
Stephen A. Smith. He is, in any conversation, the five
most powerful people in the world of sports. Fair So
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if he takes up the phone and he calls Kathy
Eelbert and says, hey, can you take me through like
this conversation you had with ifs Collier, she would, but
you know what he didn't do. He didn't do the
fucking work. And the worst hard about it is calling
the other side to have a conversation or to even
get comment. Who does that?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
What part? What profession does that? So, Jay stew what
profession would when somebody accuses one side of something would
call the other side to get their side of the story.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, you're asking me what profession?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah? What profession?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Like journalists somebody who says that they've been a journalist
for decades.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, So my point about Stephen and we know he's
opinion is he's not. But again, don't represent yourself as
a journalist. I think it's embarrassing. It's like it's literally
taking one person's word for it. And like Nafisia Collier's
husband being involved with the big threat with the whatever
the what is that called not undisputed the unrivaled, which
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is a three on three full court league. It's a
form of competition with the w NBA. Granted it's not
but because it's a different time of year. But like
all of these are conflicts of interest, and Nafisia Collier
has a reason to think what she thinks and say
what she says. I just I'm with you. I don't
buy it, and I think I'm really I'm not surprised.
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But this is the power of women in sports. It's
really interesting. Like women in sports, you cannot criticize their performance.
You cannot criticize their looks, like in terms of not
facially if they're pretty or not pretty, but like if
they're in shape not in shape, like, good luck doing that.
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Yet they want to be treated and covered the same
way the men's men's athletes are, which are not Like
if a Oliver Miller was famously gigantic. In fact, Sean
Kemp ruined his career up to the lockout because he
came back so heavy. We all talked about it. We
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can't do that with women, And again that's fine. I'm
okay with it. I've been I was taught at a
very young age by my parents that you don't talk
about a woman's weight. Great, but all of these you
can't do because they're a woman. Thing that changes the
idea of them being treated the same. And if a
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male athlete came out and said these things about about
the NBA the NFL Commission'd be like, whoa, and you
know you do you go to that commission and go like,
is this true what was said in that conversation. But
that's not what we do here. That's not what we
do here. So I would say the whole Kathy Engelbert
thing is annoyed.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's because we can here, Jaystuo.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Doug, the AJ Brown thing has become a big story,
big NFL story this week. AJ Brown came out and
read a statement, took some questions yesterday. But it all
goes back to him sending out that less than cryptic,
pretty unsubtle social media posts on Sunday after he got
two catches in the game, and then a week of
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discussion in the talk space here. And one of those
voices is his former teammate. This is Jason Kelsey. I
don't know if you know who he is because you
never see him on commercials or on TV. He's got
a brother named Travis, and they have a podcast and
they talked about AJ.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Your four No boss, Come on, man, I don't think
this is where you and I disagree a little bit.
A couple of weeks ago, I don't think it's unfathomable
that a player of AJ Brown's caliber. I think that
he should be upset that he is not being utilized
in this offense. I think that as a normal feeling,
and I think he should feel comfortable explicitly saying that
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to the coaches and players within that locker room.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I do.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I don't think that that's like a dick move, a
selfish move. AJ knows the level of player he is
and what he can do to offenses and we as
offensive though, everybody should be upset that AJ's not getting
the ball, and I guarantee they are. They're trying to
force it to them. I just it needs to be
done in a better way. But one of the things
about this quote is if you're not welcome not listening
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to you, quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your
shoulders and be anyway. Everyone should be really happy that
AJ Brown is not doing that. Like by him tweeting this,
he's literally not doing the tweet right He's being vocal
and he's telling everybody, I'm fucking not happy with what's
happening right now.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah. I just this need for attention, this need for
outside people to jump in on a conversation, and I
think this is one where Jason Kelsey probably a little
bit too much, too close to the forest to see
the trees and how it looks, you know. I mean,
he's a former ego, he's a teammate of him, Like,
what's he going to say here? Almost to the recuse
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your self level? But yeah, it's okay to not be
happy with it. It's just not when everybody can see you.
You look like a whiny malcontent. Why could we play
for you? Because we can. That's it for the In
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What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. There's a there's video out there
of Dan Lanning when they're about to run out last
weekend take on Penn State, and Penn State does that
we are chant and he says his players yells, we
(00:32):
are about we are about to get our ass kicked.
And there's this and and honestly, frankly, it's something I
struggle with as a coach where I'm a confident dude,
I know when my team's prepared, and yet obviously record
you're like, wow, you're not supposed to, like, how do
you There's just that fine line of knowing you've got
(00:52):
a good enough team, not being a jerk, but being
confident but not arrogant. And a lot of people make
it a big deal. But the meme or the video
of after the game, did I think he was a
bit of a dick against Oaklahoma State? Yeah, they were
way better, but oklahom State simply couldn't stop the run.
They just lined up and it didn't matter. Who they
(01:12):
put back there just ran the ball and it was
a complete shellacking. But it did feel like there was
some extra emphasis on it. And you know, it's like,
why are you running it up on a team that's
not any good and taking great joy in it. So
part of me thinks, like, Okay, Landing needs a little
bit of his come up ins. But part of it
(01:34):
is the former athletes, like I'm actually I kind of
gravitate towards that level of confidence, and so maybe it's
maybe I need to kind of retract my or not retract,
rethink my comments in We talked about this all the time.
The uniforms and the uniform designs are not for me
or you. They're for players, right, They're not made. Do
(01:56):
they sell him, Yeah, but they're really made. It was
always intense on attracting players. Hey, we're Oregon, we're off
the beaten path, but we have this really cool thing
with Nike where we get the coolest and most unique
uniforms of anybody in the country. That's cool, that has
equity the masses of young people, and I think that
(02:17):
again those uniforms. If you like him and don't like him,
it doesn't matter. It's not designed for you. Well, that's
the same thing with how Dan Lanning handles himself and
gets ready for games. If you think he's arrogant, that's
fine you can. If you think he's a prick, that's
fine you can't. Or if you think that he's nailing
it or whatever, that's fine. You're allowed to think that.
The only thing that matters is players. How do they
(02:38):
feel about it? And winning all these games? I think
they feel pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
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Speaker 2 (02:53):
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One show, here's Dan Patrick talking about NFL placekickers.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now, all of a sudden, it's the kickers are ruining
the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've gotten better,
they've gotten stronger, And it goes back to the analytics.
It's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten back to
how do I strengthen my leg? Okay, and you know,
how do we block. If you're kicking a sixty five
yard field goal, well that ball is going to be lower.
(03:28):
You got to make sure you do your job differently
up front. So but we're seeing more kicks are blocked, well,
more kicks are blocked. It feels like because now we
have longer kicks, we have no problem. Like when the
ball goes out to the thirty five yard line, you're thinking,
we get two first downs, we're in field goal range.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It was like, man, it's fifty yards and then all
of a sudden, it's sixty yards, and then Tom Dempsey
and then it's sixty three yards, and you're thinking, these
guys can kick seventy yards. I think somebody's kicking a
seventy yard field goal this year.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But they do it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You watch them when they practice. Now there's no rush,
there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to
get it that far.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do. It's I was actually on the fifty yard
line of Lucas Oilfield yesterday. We were talking about how
unbelievably skilled those guys are. But yeah, they It's crazy
that two things have happened at once, which is one
NFL kickers have now shown the ability to make sixty
yarders with relative fifty yards with relative ease. And two
we've had all these block kicks. Here's Colin Cowhert talking
(04:38):
about AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
J McK and I had a disagreement on this. I said,
you an accountant, a judge, a novelist, an actor. In
most careers, you got about twenty five years of prime
and you can work to your seventies. You can't as
a pro football player, and so A J.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And I do think winning matters, but he's already he
got a trophy. I do think if you went to
Kobe and said, listen, you get six shots a game,
Kobe would have been like, peace out, I'm gonna go
somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer yards than the third
Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got money and he's got
(05:18):
a trophy. His legacy is on the line. He's not necessary.
They try to target him nine targets seven yards most
of the time. He's just not And I think if
I was AJ Brown, this sounds selfish, but I think
pro athletes get cornered into well it's about winning games.
Well that's part of it, and it's transformational money, and
(05:40):
there's legacies involved. And my take is, if I was
AJ Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia and I'd say quietly,
I'm not gonna screw the market up. I'm not gonna
do a mellow with the Nuggets to the Knicks. I
don't want to be here. Make a deal. I think
AJ Brown has a right to leave. I am defending
him not staying with a better organization. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just I This is the coaching perspective. You won
a Super Bowl, your competitive every year for Super Bowl
AJ Brown not being able to actually shut the fuck
up and play, dude, you can win without AJ Brown.
You'll be just fine. You'll be just fine. I have
(06:21):
no doubt. I think he's terrific. I think he's a
very good football player. And every wide receiver has this
bit of diva where you know inherently they want the ball,
they think they can win the game on their own.
But but you've won essentially without him a ton. So
he needs to get line, and I do think that
(06:41):
the time to get him in line is now, not later,
not later. Here's Brady Quinn talking about shod Or Sanders
mining his way through answers in the locker room.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It got to the point where and I had a
couple media people reach out and there are comments were
literally that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing
I've ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people
who've covered it for a long time. And I said
to myself, like, they've seen a lot of things like
that's that's saying something. But supposedly this was in response
(07:16):
to something that was said on ESPN by someone who's
taken a lot of had a lot of hot takes
so far this year, and this is why he did
what he did, which was just incredibly odd. Like, I
don't even know what to make of that. It comes
off as very immature as a response, even if it
(07:36):
was to Rex Ryan bizarre. I mean, I've never seen
a player handle things like that before.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'd agree, I'd completely agree with you in that it's
really immature. It's not that these things are not that hard, right.
Ask me what I think about Dylan Gabriel getting to
(08:14):
getting the starting job. Hey, I'm really happy for Dylan.
I'm going to support him as any quarterback in our
quarterback room should, and I'm gonna be ready if God
forbid something happens. But my job this week is to
get him ready and to keep learning and keep readying
myself for if and when my opportunity comes, that's it.
(08:37):
But instead he makes a complete He just he makes
a farce of the whole thing. And I've read things
where like, oh, it's brilliant, right. Why would he do
it well? Because in his mind, anything he said would
be used against him. You know, anything he said, the
media is going to turn it against you, like not
(09:00):
if you just say the right thing.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
So I'm going to go back to my same take.
I don't know if you watched it, but the reporters
were not giving in. The reporters were going to be
there all day until he said a word, and a
member of the Browns media staff actually started doing their
job and they said, that's enough. Guys. I have no
(09:28):
idea why a team who pays a staff five deep
of media relations people, I don't understand how that staff
allows him to be available for anything because they know
by now that that becomes the story. The Dylan Gabriel
(09:48):
promotion yesterday was secondary to Shador Sanders acting like a
fucking idiot. Why don't the Browns understand that, and they
don't make him available and they tell reporters he's not
available today. We see this all the time in sports.
I'm sure you have a media staff like this is
what they do. They protect the team from bad publicity.
(10:11):
That's what their job is.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
To the core.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Um, yeah, but again, like you've been a college star,
you've been in front of the media. You don't know
how to handle this. Again, I'm just I'm asking, like, yet, yes,
you could not. He doesn't have to be available, he
doesn't have to be available. But I do think it's
very normal in this situation to go and hey, we
(10:37):
want to go to get you do it for coming now.
The truth is the local media knows he hasn't been
the backup quarterback. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dylan
Gabriel is getting first crack at this thing. He was
drafted higher, he's listed hiring the depth chart. It makes
complete and total sense. But if you're twenty two to
twenty three years old, you've started for four years in college,
(10:58):
your dad was a star, you've had a hammering your
face your whole life. This is this is not hard.
This is not hard. I hear what you're saying this
is not hard not a hard one, not at all. Uh,
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Say.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So something that's kind of taken a life of its
own here on Twitter, and I have not gotten ratioed yet,
so I'm not going to give in. But the number
of critics are increasing and the number of likes are
staying the same, so I might be ratioed pretty quick.
(12:01):
I'm gonna set this up for the listeners. Fernando Cruz
is a baseball player. He's a reliever, middle reliever for
the Yankees. He came in last night with runners on
first and second in the eighth inning, first and second,
nobody out in a tie game. He gets the first
(12:21):
dumbass who popped up a bunt, then he got out two,
and then Trevor Story comes up and hits a fastball
that missed. In other words, the fastball needed to be located,
probably out of the strike zone. It got way too
much of the strike zone and Trevor Story hit the
shit out of the ball. It was like twenty feet.
(12:43):
If he pulls a twenty feet it's a three run homer.
But no, regardless, it was a p shot to the
warning track. It could have been a three run homer.
And this Fernando Cruz guy is acting like the guy
like struck a batter out after a hundred and three
mile power fastball. I mean everyone has seen it, right
(13:03):
his antics and he's literally chest pounding. Chest pounding, according
to chat GPT, by the way, is a gesture that says,
look at me, look what I just did. Pounding your
chest after giving up a almost moonshot and not doing
(13:28):
your job and getting that pitch out of the strike zone,
to me, came off as unseemly. I needed to see
more humility in that moment. I needed to see him
thank the gods that he got away with something. But
instead he's sitting there out in front of the dugout
would look at me gestures that's annoying to me, Doug,
(13:51):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
There is something that major league players they know when
a guy's missed. What was the exit vlo on that
one would love to know, like even though it was
warning track, it feels it. It feels like like an
easier out to them than it does to us. I
would say the pounding on his chest was did he
(14:16):
come in with the runners at first and second? So
getting out of it is the is the thing. But yeah,
the guy nearly took him yard. I get what you're annoyed.
I don't think you'll get ratioed because I think there's
a good percentage of people that agree with you.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I think that there's like a there's a slippage. There's
been a slippage, and what has become accepted. I don't know.
I mean, you're the you're the basketball coach, but like
I don't know shit about basketball. But what does offend
my sensibilities is when a guy misses a big free
throw and he seeks out high fives, Like, you just
(14:51):
missed the free throw and you're looking for high fives.
I understand the concept of you just missed a big
free throw and your teammates are going to come up
to you and support you. You got this high five,
But why is the shooter who just missed the shots
seeking high five like that to me is like something
that that's fucking weird. That seems like a gen Z thing,
(15:11):
like I need support type of thing. Does that offend
your sensibilities as much as it does me?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Uh No, because the high five sometimes it's it's guys
way of breaking out of it. The guys have a rhythm.
They always give high fives. So I think you're overthinking
a little bit too much, you know, I just that
would be my That would be my take there.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So I have an issue with the term conspiracy theorist, right,
It's become a pejorative. Uh It's become a way of
kind of dismissing somebody as a fucking imbecile when it basically,
I guess by definition, is just kind of believing in
(15:56):
something where more than more than two people agreed to
participate in something and keep it a secret. That's what
a conspiracy theory is. It's become a pejorative, it's become political.
I get it. So Jackson Dart pissed some people off
on the left, especially by saying that he doesn't think
that we landed on the moon. Now, this is one
(16:19):
of those conspiracy theories that that is believed by a
lot of people. There have been books written about it,
there have been movies made about it. The flat Earth thing,
you totally lose me. Like when Kyrie Irving, I think,
said he still thinks Earth is flat, Well, you're just
fucking stupid, and there are there are no reasonable or
(16:42):
scientific reasons to believe that the Earth is flat. Now
the moon landing thing, and I would I would actually
for people that are just shaking their head right now,
I would encourage people to like seek out a podcast.
Joe Rogan debated this guy named Bart Sibrel. Bart Sibrel
(17:04):
is the guy who makes the case for the moon
landing being a hoax, how it was all done on
film to win the Battle of the you know, the
space race with the Russians in the heat of the
Cold War. He makes an incredible case. It's it's very interesting.
I'm not saying if you listen to it you're going
to become a conspiracy theorist asshole. I'm thinking if you
(17:27):
listen to it, you're going to be thought provoked. It's provocative.
It's like, oh, that's another way of seeing something. Maybe
I won't believe everything everybody tells me. Full sail So
Jackson Dart getting shit for believing this conspiracy theory, which
I think is just is interesting. I'm not saying I
believe it's true. I just think that a lot of
(17:49):
people believe what Jackson Dart does, that we faked the
moon landing to win the space race with the Russians.
But it's just annoying to see him thrown into the
fucking Maga crew because he believes that we faked the spacelanded.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yes, but the Maggot crew has become the conspiracy theorist crew, right,
I mean that's my point. Yes, Yeah, it's a it's
a it's a weird one. When there were when I
when I was in high school, I used to think
the same thing. It had to be that looks like
a sound stage, you know, it looks like a sound stage.
But I am going to download that one. I am
going to listen to it later on today. But okay,
(18:27):
so those are didn't she have one?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
More so?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Kathy Engelbert sent out a statement everyone knows about the
NOFISA call your Takedown a couple days ago we covered
on our show. And then there's been the Kathy Engelbert statement,
and then there's been the fallout. Scott Van Pelt spent
his I Guess You opinion part of his Sports center
(18:54):
on it. Steven A says she needs to resign. So
the calls are coming from the rights holder for her
to resign. It's this weird uh, not even a slow
moving coup. It's just a fucking coup. So the rights holders,
the big voices on the rights holders, are saying to
retire or to resign. It's been full throated. Everybody in
(19:19):
the players Union agrees with the FISA Collier's version of
that conversation. I still maintained two days later that she
probably didn't make up the conversation with all the negative
shit that that the commissioner said, but she sures how
mischaracterized it. It's like, if you, Doug, want to make
a case to your buddies that that chick that broke
(19:41):
up with you is crazy, they're going to get a
very one sided viewpoint of this check and maybe some
of the things she said, you're going to exaggerate a
little bit because your consensus building, well, the FISA Collier
was consensus building. She wants everybody on her side. I
don't believe a fucking word of how she reapped under
those comments. Now, Kathy Engelbrook could be incompetent, she could
(20:05):
suck as a leader. I don't really know where care
to be honest, but I just think this is fucking dirty.
Whatever's going on right now is very dirty.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I thank you for bringing this up. Here's the here's
the issue, okay that I almost First of all, I
agree with you on if there's zero percent chance she
said those things in the way in which they're portrayed,
or I believe she said word for word that Nafisia
(20:34):
Colliers is representing. If she did, I have no problem
I calling for resignation or she should be fired, Like,
no problem with it, right, So that's that's the first thing, Like,
it's just people in charge don't speak like that, especially
to a player. They're not idiots, even if she did
believe it, which I don't believe that she does. The
(20:56):
second part, here's actually probably the troubling thing is is
that some of her comments two days ago, I think
is when Engelbert actually spoke to the media, some of
her comments and the way in which Nafisia Collier is
taking her comments is diminishing Caitlin Clark really, which by
(21:17):
the way is what every WNBA player has done. And
Engelbert at her press conference said kept saying like this
is over twenty five years, no one player. She is
actually bowing at the feet of these WNBA ladies, not
saying that their rise to popularity is because of Kaitlyn Clark.
(21:41):
So she's kissing their ass while pointing out to them
kind of the matter of fact fashion of how it
actually works and whatever, and they still want to get
rid of her. Can we be honest, jay Stu, do
you think that if the CBA deal was different that
(22:07):
because because here's what's happening, They're gonna the w NBA
players want to walk out on the deal, on their deal, okay,
they want this offseason to be and they're like, hey,
we maybe we don't play next year. So my guess
is this is a coup to get somebody more player
friendly in there. Player friendly means they get a more
prayer friendly deal, they get a more player friendly deal,
(22:28):
and suddenly now they have a commissioner that they like.
And the crazy part about it is she's kissing their ass,
acting like they're not popular just because of Kaitlyn Clark.
Went that's the reality to it. Kaitlin Clark has brought
them to a whole new level of popularity. Would this
happen if she was African American? It's a question interesting
(22:55):
what would it happened if you know? Because look, here's
the way, here's the here, here's my issue with I
don't know if it's woke or whatever. I don't know
what they're but this is what's happening. Anybody who's in
charge they want to get rid of. I mean, people
came out to Roger Goodell for years and the whole
(23:17):
point that the owners made and I'm sure the WNBA
owners are probably thinking, is Engelbert actually done a pretty
good job. We're actually making some money now, like getting
new TV deals.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So I just I think this is dirty pool. I
don't think. And by the way, like Steven A. You
don't have you talked to the commissioner of the WNBA
because you're Steven if. This is my biggest problem with
Stephen A. Smith. He is, in any conversation, the five
most powerful people in the world of sports. Fair So
(23:48):
if he takes up the phone and he calls Kathy
Eelbert and says, hey, can you take me through like
this conversation you had with ifs Collier, she would, but
you know what he didn't do. He didn't do the
fucking work. And the worst hard about it is calling
the other side to have a conversation or to even
get comment. Who does that?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
What part? What profession does that? So, Jay stew what
profession would when somebody accuses one side of something would
call the other side to get their side of the story.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, you're asking me what profession?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah? What profession?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Like journalists somebody who says that they've been a journalist
for decades.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, So my point about Stephen and we know he's
opinion is he's not. But again, don't represent yourself as
a journalist. I think it's embarrassing. It's like it's literally
taking one person's word for it. And like Nafisia Collier's
husband being involved with the big threat with the whatever
the what is that called not undisputed the unrivaled, which
(24:53):
is a three on three full court league. It's a
form of competition with the w NBA. Granted it's not
but because it's a different time of year. But like
all of these are conflicts of interest, and Nafisia Collier
has a reason to think what she thinks and say
what she says. I just I'm with you. I don't
buy it, and I think I'm really I'm not surprised.
(25:16):
But this is the power of women in sports. It's
really interesting. Like women in sports, you cannot criticize their performance.
You cannot criticize their looks, like in terms of not
facially if they're pretty or not pretty, but like if
they're in shape not in shape, like, good luck doing that.
(25:36):
Yet they want to be treated and covered the same
way the men's men's athletes are, which are not Like
if a Oliver Miller was famously gigantic. In fact, Sean
Kemp ruined his career up to the lockout because he
came back so heavy. We all talked about it. We
(25:57):
can't do that with women, And again that's fine. I'm
okay with it. I've been I was taught at a
very young age by my parents that you don't talk
about a woman's weight. Great, but all of these you
can't do because they're a woman. Thing that changes the
idea of them being treated the same. And if a
(26:18):
male athlete came out and said these things about about
the NBA the NFL Commission'd be like, whoa, and you
know you do you go to that commission and go like,
is this true what was said in that conversation. But
that's not what we do here. That's not what we
do here. So I would say the whole Kathy Engelbert
thing is annoyed.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's because we can here, Jaystuo.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Doug, the AJ Brown thing has become a big story,
big NFL story this week. AJ Brown came out and
read a statement, took some questions yesterday. But it all
goes back to him sending out that less than cryptic,
pretty unsubtle social media posts on Sunday after he got
two catches in the game, and then a week of
(27:08):
discussion in the talk space here. And one of those
voices is his former teammate. This is Jason Kelsey. I
don't know if you know who he is because you
never see him on commercials or on TV. He's got
a brother named Travis, and they have a podcast and
they talked about AJ.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Your four No boss, Come on, man, I don't think
this is where you and I disagree a little bit.
A couple of weeks ago, I don't think it's unfathomable
that a player of AJ Brown's caliber. I think that
he should be upset that he is not being utilized
in this offense. I think that as a normal feeling,
and I think he should feel comfortable explicitly saying that
(27:45):
to the coaches and players within that locker room.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I do.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I don't think that that's like a dick move, a
selfish move. AJ knows the level of player he is
and what he can do to offenses and we as
offensive though, everybody should be upset that AJ's not getting
the ball, and I guarantee they are. They're trying to
force it to them. I just it needs to be
done in a better way. But one of the things
about this quote is if you're not welcome not listening
(28:09):
to you, quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your
shoulders and be anyway. Everyone should be really happy that
AJ Brown is not doing that. Like by him tweeting this,
he's literally not doing the tweet right He's being vocal
and he's telling everybody, I'm fucking not happy with what's
happening right now.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah. I just this need for attention, this need for
outside people to jump in on a conversation, and I
think this is one where Jason Kelsey probably a little
bit too much, too close to the forest to see
the trees and how it looks, you know. I mean,
he's a former ego, he's a teammate of him, Like,
what's he going to say here? Almost to the recuse
(28:49):
your self level? But yeah, it's okay to not be
happy with it. It's just not when everybody can see you.
You look like a whiny malcontent. Why could we play
for you? Because we can. That's it for the In
the Modus podcast. Check out the radio show every day
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