October 2, 2025 • 48 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Major League Playoffs and all of the things that he is enjoying about the Wild Card Round.
On this edition of "Don't Call It a Throwback, Thursday!", Doug and the crew focus on the sports year of 2003.
Doug welcomes former FSU standout and NFL quarterback Danny Kanell onto the show to cover all of the major headlines around college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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having the most spectacular day you've ever had in the
history of your life. That would be cool, right, I mean, like, wow,
that's a little different than wishing me a good day,
the most spectacular day in the history of your life.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, I feel good?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well do I do too? I do too? Okay, so congratulations.
In Major League Baseball, they fixed their regular season, by
my estimation, making it I've told you like baseball is
exciting to watch. Is it ever going to be Is
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it going to be NFL football college football? In terms
of the contact collisions the game to game. Probably not.
It's a different vibe, right, It's just a different sport.
But they have made it a much more exciting version
of itself with the rule changes going back a year ago.
I mean, there's been several rule changes in the last
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couple of years, but a year ago is when the
you know, the size of the bases were increased, and
that's when we had more stolen bases. The ship was eliminated,
so we've had more balls put into play, athleticism is back,
and then you know, this Wildcard Round, which is a
three game series all at the same site, has given
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us three game threes today. I think the most remarkable
thing about it, guys, if we're being completely hand, it
is the only team that swept their opponent and that
is through is the Dodgers. And we have a huge
Dodger fan on our staff, and he can't stand his
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own team. It's like he roots for their demise, roots
for their demise. Right. So yeah, I'm just sitting there
and trying to figure trying to figure out how we
got to this place where we got three game threes.
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Super super exciting, and the baseball has They've reeled me in.
October is always the best month. I mean, I don't
know what it's like where you are in northeast Wisconsin.
We're getting a little Indian summer. It's like eighty degrees outside.
It's amazing. The weather's good. Even when the weather's not good.
The leagues turn in most parts of the country. College
football matters, NFL starts to matter, and Major League Baseball
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is great, and the playoffs are better than anything you
can imagine. The difference in level of intensity of baseball
playoffs as opposed to baseball regular season is the greatest
jump in all the sports. And then you factor in
how good these this wild card's been, and it's pretty amazing.
JAYSETU do you want to talk like why are you
still not why are you still bitter about your team?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I'm bitter about him? No, yeah, I mean just.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
In your group text. I don't worry that the bullpen
will still blow it, right, Like they spank the Reds
in two straight games. Yes, they had a bullpen guy
in each game kind of implode, but they had enough
slack if you will, to easily win both games.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I just still get the sense of you're not in
on your team.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, and I know you're you're being intellectually dishonest right now.
I mean beating the Reds in a wild card series
that's not the standard for the Dodgers. My obvious goal
is to have my team win the World Series. And
do you think they can win a World Series when
your bullpen in the last two nights in the eighth
inning has an ERA of sixty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Uh no, no, I don't. But again, like last night,
the guy who blew up as a rookie, wasn't he.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
She might be a secondhand guy, but our second ear guy.
But yeah, he's no heasy gone guy. Yeah, but it's
a It's not like that. It's not like this is
just an issue that happened the last two nights. It's
been a systemic issue for the entire season. The maybe
the most viral video yesterday was a video of Mason
Miller hitting one hundred and four point three Miles Prower
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in the pottery game. The Dodgers are like, no, thanks, Nah,
we don't need to seek Mason Miller because our trade
deadline is going to be the guys coming back from injury, right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Which obviously has not worked out well for them. Listen,
it's fair, but I again, at some point just enjoy
the Dubs while being cautiously, maybe cautiously pessimistic over the
bullpen moving forward.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Let me give you an example of I mean the
difference between the Reds and the Phillies, and it kind
of comes back full circle to one of the Dodgers
weak spots. So if you look at the series with
the Phillies, Kyle Schwarber, if you look at the stats
that are ridiculous, Kyle Schwarber had one hundred and thirty
two RBIs this year from the leadoff spot, shohe Otani
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went into the final weekend of the year needing an
RBI for one hundred. In other words, one of the
Dodgers week spotses are seven through nine. The Phillies have
done exceptionally at the bottom of their order, and then
they went out and got a frontline closer at the
tread dentline and the Dodgers did not. So no, I
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definitely I go into each series series with this apprehension
because I know so well are flaws.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Uh, if you could be in one stadium tonight, which
stadium would it be?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And why Yankee Stadium? Without a doubt, this is the rival.
This is your your rival for decades, right.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yes, okay, but the only other option, obviously is is
Wrigley Right, like no offense to Cleveland. I don't even
know who they used to be the Jake. I don't
know what that's called now, but it's a it's a
distant third.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Aggressive stadium sponsor along the way, is that's still the field?
Progressive Field?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't know. You want to get to the Google
machine there, Sammy, that'd be great. So the question is,
and it's a really good question, you'd rather be Yankee
Stadium without a doubt because it's the Red Sox. Does
it feel the same Red Sox and Yankees?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I just think that's like next level stuff, right, A
deciding game at Yankee Stadium with the Red Socks. Whool
Dan Byerfield in for you yesterday he said that, Tom,
why go to game two? If you could go to
game three? Why go to game two? Like, the only
thing that can happen last night is that you get
really down and frustrated for losing Game two. But game three,
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my goodness, gotta be.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
There a game three Yankees. Here's what happens with me
and baseball does this probably better than anybody else, right,
It brings up nostalgia. It really makes you nostalgia for
the moment and when I first began, when I began
sports radio on a national levels with Chuck Wilson, and
it was in two thousand and three, was our first fall,
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and we did counter programming for for the other's place.
And you know, I remember when they put Pedro Martinez
back in the game. He shook everybody's hands, he had
the jacket app and then all of a sudden, he's
back for the seventh inning, and we all knew what happened.
After he hit one hundred pitches, suddenly he became hittable
after being utterly and completely unhittable before that. And that that,
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you know, there was career long, season long statistics for it.
So I watched last night and yeah, it brought me
back to three and then to four and Dave Robert
Steel in second base. But I do think that I
don't want to see the rivalry. It's not died. It's
just not the same, right. The Red Sox have won
multiple World Series. There's not a single player or I
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don't even know if there's a person in the organization
that was there with the comeback, and we're so far
up and even the Yankees yet the Yankees in the
World Series last year. The Red Sox haven't been there,
hasn't been the same bitterness of rivalry over the last
five to ten years, or at least it doesn't appear
that we're way outwardly so and so I think that
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we the idea that Yankees Red Sox would probably be
the choice, But I don't know if it's as big
as slam dunk as turning down Wrigley Game three against
the Padres, even though there's no uniqueness of the rivalry
with the Padres in the Cup by er, you bitterly disagree.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Sorry, Doug, we just got some behind the scenes stuff going.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
On here, no problem. I was asking you if I
just think the Red Sox Yankees thing, while still sort
of a thing, kind of die. With the Red Sox
winning multiple World Series.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think the whole Red Sox aura did as well,
and there's a piece of it for the Cubs. But
with the matchups today, I mean, I don't know how
Yankee Stadium can get any better. Actually, I think it's
really good with the Cubs playing a day game. I
know it's probably gonna end up at night, but just
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the feel of having that game and having the Red
Sox and Yankees actually playing now at least it's a
guaranteed three games to it. I know that we talked
a little bit yesterday and Jason and Monci weren't loving
that these teams are playing now. But it may not
be what it once was, Doug. It may not be
like it was in two thousand and three, in two
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thousand and four, but it's still interesting. And I think
that that is at least a draw tonight. At least
you can guarantee yourself that matchup. But I almost think
that the Padres are so intriguing because of how many
times we've thought maybe it was the Padres year, and
then it wasn't. And now to Jason's point about their
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bullpen and then maybe being a contender. The Brewers didn't
have great luck with the Padres. Maybe they're the hot team.
I think that that is that is an interesting storyline
for twenty twenty five, only in just that the Padres
maybe the team that nobody outside of the Dodgers wants
to face.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Hmm. Yeah, I actually really agree with you on that.
I think that's probably what draws me to that game
is the Cubs can do the dirty work for the
Dodgers and everybody else in the NL if they just
win tonight's game. Whereas I guess maybe the Yankees are
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that kind of juggernaut and they've been playing good ball
of late, but I don't feel like it's the same
in terms of everybody wanting them out of the playoffs,
and everybody wants the Padres out one because the Padres
are really talented. And then I don't think people love
how the Padres roll. But baseball does this to us
every year. If you're a quasi baseball fan, if you're like, man,
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I've always loved baseball baseball, but you know, October comes
around and it reels you in, and now you have
three game threes on like a random Thursday, and then
we got great series set up. Plus you have Yankees
Red Sox. And I do think that while the Cubs
have lost their lure of being same old Cubs and
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wait till next year, Cubs, Wrigley still is special and
I think it's gonna be a fascinating night for both places.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
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Speaker 4 (13:13):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Great year in my life two thousand and three. What
he got there?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Jake, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So let's see twenty this October twenty two years ago.
This October, as the Yankees and Red Sox are about
to play a deciding Game three of the Wild Card Series,
I thought I would look back on a special moment
in time in this Yankees Red Sox rivalry, and it
included the manager of the current Yankees team. What are
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the odds? What are the odds that we would focus
in on a play twenty two years ago this October,
when the manager of the current Yankees is getting ready
to play the Red Sox, Aaron Boone. He hit a
home run that no Yankee fan will ever forget. Twenty
five years after Bucky Dent hit his home run against
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the Red Sox, Boone provided one that might be even bigger.
Game seven, Take All Game two thousand and three ALCS
the winner goes to the World Series. In the Bronx,
Pedro Martinez had been lifted or did he No, he
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stayed in the game. That's part of the story. That's
a big part of the story.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Not through that home run. That was what fourteen.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Boone stepped in against Knockleball or Tim Wakefield. As I
get my notes sorted that fourteenth bottom of the eleventh inning. Okay,
so I think we're we got all the facts straight
as I got my notes sorted. Two thousand and three, gentlemen,
let's focus on on that. I want the listeners to
think about what you were doing in two thousand and three.
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Damn Bayer, what do you remember most from that year?
In sports?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Two thousand and three will always be the year that
Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse won the NCAA National Championship. Oh yeah,
and just to look back at that time, it was
also a tournament and specifically Elite eight game because they
got crushed in the final four. It was also the
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emergence of Dwayne Wade that year at Marquette. I felt
that Dwayne Wade became a household name. But then that
national championship game between Syracuse and Kansas was I don't
know if it was a classic, but it was a
darn goodwe of two coaches trying to break through and
winning their first national championship, and Beheim gets his and
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Kansas would ultimately get theirs with Bill salf and Roy
Williams would get his with North Carolina, but never Williams
and the Jayhawks. So two thousand and three, when that
year outside of Gulf pops up, I always think of
that final four and Mellow cutting down the nets for Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Doug Head coach of Marquette with Dwayne Wade. Is he
the Harbaugh's brother in law?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yes, Tom Crean, Tom Crean, Tom Crean, I do. No,
he's a broadcaster, I think so. Two thousand and three
is a pretty big year in my life. Okay, how
much time do we have? Two thousand and three I
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was my first year I did full time radio in
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And just to sect that before you get started, don't
take up too much time because I have to tell
you that Ben Curtis and Sean mckeel when golf majors. Okay,
so try not to take up too much time with
your stuff, because I get to the real important stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Hold on, hold on, does anybody know outside of Dan
Byro what Ben Curtis looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Too?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
First? Aim, guy, nothing. Ben Curtis was sitting next to
me right now, and he's and he had three noses.
I would like, Okay, I got nothing for you anyway.
Two thousand and three, I was I had a show
in Oklahoma City with Mark Rogers called the Middle of
to Day Show. I called games for ESPN and the
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ESPN Regional and Cowboy Sports properties. Had bought my first house,
about our first house in Oklahoma City, and after Championship
week got a call to go back and play in France.
Played with for Cremont Feron loved it. It's the one
NCAA tournament I know. Oklahma State lost to Syracuse in
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the second round. They were up seventeen I think at
the first half. But it's one that I have very
little recollection of actual games because I was in France
and you would I only saw like the championship game
against Kansas, right that was the Bonnie Bernstein asking Roy
Williams about leaving the Kansas job for the Carolina job
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when he went crazy, and then of course he left
the Kansas job for the Carolina job. Anyway, that year
also had Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Carmelo, Anthony Darko,
Millisi's being drafted. How do I know because that was
my end to National Radio National TV. I worked for
ESPN Radio calling the draft. Then I started ESPN radio
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that fall, and then of course late that fall that's
when we had the Aaron Blanking Boone home run, and
I was on radio on the time with Chuck Wilson,
and I felt like running around the studio like Jack Buck,
I don't believe what I just saw. I don't believe
what I just saw. So that was a I started
that year living in Oklahoma City, was in Cement, Feront, France.
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Actually had was with the Timberwolves in their summer league
like tryouts, didn't make the summer league team, and then
moved to Burlington, Connecticut. All in one year, big year.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
We come from France.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Wow, it was the start of it all.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Huh yeah, it was sammy Wow.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I can give you my Iowa Hawkeyes two thousand and
three recap if you'd like. I was a sophomore in
high school. They went ten to three and whooped up
on Florida in the Outback Bowl. Let's go Nathan Chandler
at quarterback, Fred Russell at running back. They had They
didn't have Dallas Clark, he had left by then. M
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I think that's all I remember.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, you had golf, had Matt Roff.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
On the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
One of my favorite players.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did Lebron have twenty nine or thirty in his first
game of his career was against the Sacramento Kings. I
remember that it was pretty spectacular. That was in two
thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It was also the emergence of USC, right the start
of the Pete Carroll run. Now there was the controversy.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
They did beat up on Iowa the year prior that
they win the Pac ten and then they went to
the Orange Bowl and beat Iowa thirty eight seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There you go, it's more Iowa content for you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Thank you for interrupting. What was the controversy there?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Dan, Well, you had LSU and Oklahoma playing in the
BCS National Championship Game. Sure, so LSU ends up beating
the Sooners in that contest, But I felt that that's
when USC really arrived. And then the next year they
dominate win the national championship and then we know what
happened in two thousand and five with Vince Young, But
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it felt like that was the that was the arrival
season of USC, and maybe to Sam's point, the win
over Iowa the previous year was the springboard. But yeah,
that was yeah, crazy wacky year in college football.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
NFL football, if you remember, that was a Patriots Super
Bowl win over the Carolina Panthers in four but the
three season, Peyton Manning was the MVP, and of course,
as was kind of part of the course, for the
most part, Peyton Manning lost in the playoffs. Right, he
was the he was. We used to call it Clayton Kershaw,
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Peyton Kershaw or Clayton Manning because similar careers for a
good portion of their.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Career and in golf, and in golf, aside from Ben
Curtis winning the Open Championship and Sean mckel the PGA Championship,
Mike Weir won the Masters. The lefty from Canada was
your Masters Champion. And then Jim Furick finally broke through
winning at Olympia Fields in Chicago. Jim Furick's lone major
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victory was the two thousand and three US Open, and
Furich had been kind of the guy of best player
to never have won a major, at least in that
category of players at that time, and then was able
to break through in golf.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think there was a lot of Jim Furick mentioned
at the Ryder Cup this weekend, right isn't that what
the crowd and the players were saying to each other.
Furick you feurick you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I I was wondering what song he was listening in
his headphones when he was warming up for that final round.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well before that, I have a personal, self important story
about Mike Weir. You guys have all played golf.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
With me and Debbie Brett Wie what I said, I
have some Taylor.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Taylor Made clubs. I went down to the San Diego
Taylor Made factory and they carved out some starter clubs
for me because Mike Weir appeared on the Jim Rome
Show and his agent said, after the interview, would you
like to get to fit into some clubs? I said,
I love free things and I'll see you in San Diego.
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So the clubs that I still have, Dan and you
could tell me twenty two years later, is that a
long time to have the one?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I I yeah, I'd probably switch about. I think he
can only do you a little bit of good.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, there's three months till Christmas. If you uh, if
you're looking.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
For maybe even a birthday in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There you go. But yeah, as Mike Whir was getting
ready to win that that major. He was listening to
something in his uh I iPhones iPads two thousand. We
didn't what was it?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, maybe player iPod maybe was even that early.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't think so. Maybe people had like still it
might have been.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
M three three players. Yeah, yeah, And this is what
he was listening to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When I'm down.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is three Doors Down.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They no no no one, three doors down wronggo three
doors down, sorry, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Number one on the charts for six weeks in two
thousand and three. This is uh three doors downs. Uh,
maybe greatest hit, most downloaded hit. I know Dan Byer
walked into the studio, uh just ten minutes ago and
had it on his phone, like very accessible on his phone.
So it speaks to how popular the song was at
one point.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, there's there's other three Doors Down songs on my
phone as well. But when you guys asked, I was
willing to pull this one up right away?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Was it downloaded via LimeWire onto your MP three player?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I did the LimeWire thing, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Hell yah, I tried.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
I tried downloading a few songs on LimeWire with dial
up internet, and it took like twenty seven hours to
do like two songs.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Times.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Bringing Down the House was the biggest grossing film. Is
that right? Reading that right?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I've not even heard of that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's in that's in March. I don't know why I did.
I that's that's that's.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Wrong Steve Martin and Queen Latifa.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And you made a hundred million dollars. I never even
heard of that. Lord of the Rings The Return of
the King was the number one grossing movie. It made
three hundred and seventy seven million dollars. Finding Nemo Finding
Nemo made three hundred and thirty nine million dollars. There's
also Pirates of the Caribbean or Caribbean depending upon your pronunciation.
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The Curse of the Black Pearl. The Matrix Reloaded was
number four. Bruce Almighty was five x two X Men
United with six Elf, which my son believes is the
greatest Christmas movie ever. Hey, listen, it's not bad parenting,
it's just a bad decision on his part. Terminator three,
Rise of the Machines was eight. The Matrix Revolution was
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also same year. That's number nine, and Cheaper by the Dozen,
which is a terrible movie, was ten.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I just want to jump in. I usually let you
guys handle this, but I did want to look up
what TV was like then. That's when Joe Millionaire aired
on Fox. Do you guys remember that one?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is that kind of the precursor to The Bachelor? Like
in a way like he had a bunch of women
trying to go after a guy who they thought was
a millionaire but wasn't, but they didn't know that he
wasn't a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I wouldn't doubt it if it was a precursor. Maybe
the Bachelor was in works at that point. But I
think that that's a great, great insight. There were a
lot of awful shows like that that came after The.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Wire was the number one show, and The Wire is
one of the great shows ever. That was two thousand
and three.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well that's what somebody said. According to the ratings, CSI
was the number one show at least in the spring
of two thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Broadcast counted back then, so ratings people watched actual over
the air TV, the Wire on HBO. Yes, yeah, so
take a lot of people didn't. That's why CSI would
out outdo it.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
By the way, this Joe Millionaire guy looks like kind
of like Mark Sanchez. You know, yeah, he was a
good looking guy. Absolutely, if I was a B and
he was a B. Here's the funny thing about TV ratings.
Monday Night Football was tenth.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Like CSI Friends, Joe millionaire Er, American Idol survivor, everybody
loves Raymond, Law and Order all beat Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, I think it's a real
thing that people don't realize that the NFL was not
always king, Like this NFL king thing has been what
the last fifteen years by fifteen, well I.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Would I would also say too though along with that,
with what Doug just said, it also tells you that
the only thing people are watching on over the RTV
right now are live sports. Right. That's like they're just
not watching dramas or sitcoms or reality shows. They're watching
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sports live and those get rated and then everything else
is like DVR or whatever. Right, sure, and these and
these are also the prime time show that you would get.
But if you do look in future years, you see
Sunday Night Football at the top or near the top,
Like in twenty sixteen, Sunday Night Football had a twelve
point six rating. So they're not taking the Sunday Afternoon
(28:13):
Fox game, but the Monday Night Football came back in
two thousand and three, there were ten other shows that
were or nine other shows that were getting higher ratings.
I have a question, let's bring this, let's bring this
whole full circle. Who was playing in that game? Dan,
I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I'm not sure because oh oops, yeah, it probably would
have well for your It was at two thousand and two.
Two thousand and three ratings were the ones that I
was looking at in the next The next year ratings
two thousand and three and two thousand and four, which
again is half the year, Monday Night Football was ninth.
So even even in those ratings with again CSI number one,
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American Idol second and third.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
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join us in five minutes. So another year, more ugly
Eagles wins and more of the malcontent than is aj Brown, Right,
here's aj Brown addressing the media yesterday.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
This is home, this is this is my home. You know, Uh,
this un fortunately I did it to myself. You know,
I would't even say unfortunately I did it to myself.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But this is my home.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I love it here.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But you just see frustration because obviously, you know, we
want to be great, and most definitely I want to
be great as well. Sunday after the games, I did
my frustrations boil over. I didn't speak to the media.
I had a chance to correct my my frustrations, and
I continue to let it boil over.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
That's on me.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You know. I take full accountability on that posting that.
Uh my message on Twitter wasn't director of anyone in
the building, my coaches, on my quarterback GM and nobody,
you know, Like I said, I take full accountability. I
think it's normal to have frustrations because of the standard
that we hold ourselves to. We have a lot of
talent on our offense and and to be honest, defense
and special teams have been low key carrying us, you know,
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and it's it's just like we need to clean up
who we need to clean up and get on the
same page. And you know and play to the building
that we that we say that we can and be
who we are hoop car to be. So it's it's
a standard that we preach and so so it's yeah,
so it's easy to have that frustration. I think it's
fair to have that frustration. But like I said, I
just can't let that all over.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So here's the tweet. If you're not welcome, not listen
to quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders
and be on your way, right, Which.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I get.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That's you know, it's a it's a cryptic biblical message, right,
and you're you're trying to put tweeding. It is the
complete opposite of what the verse says, right, quietly beyond
your way. So we tweeted out to our hundreds of
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thousands of followers. Yeah, that's the opposite of being quiet,
that's being cryptic. And you just want a game. You
just want a game. So is their offense great?
Speaker 7 (31:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And yeah he had nine targets, a couple of bad throws,
a couple were just just because or whatever. But they
won the game thirty one to twenty one. They're undefeated
on the season, they're defending Super Bowl Champion, like, let's
take our dubs a little bit here, and whatever you
share publicly has got to be positive, and whatever you
want to work on, you do that behind the scenes.
(31:49):
What was gained nothing, Nothing was gained by by tweeting
that nothing. If, in fact, like I said, you're you're
being a hypocrite. If you're talking about quietly withdrawing and
not making a scene, tweeting about it is the opposite
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of what your what the Bible verse says. And by
the way, that's not it's accountabil it's being accountable to say, yeah,
I did it, my bad, I was wrong. Full accountability
is okay, I get suspended for this. If I could
find for this, I don't complain about it. I'm fully accountable.
It was wrong.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
We move on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, Doug, for the record, that aj Brown tweet has
been taken down, but it was up as of yesterday
at this time, So something in the last twenty four hours,
including his recent comments, made him take that tweet down.
But it was up yesterday while we were doing your show,
So just odd that it would sit up there for
three days and then now, oh, kind of I'm taking
it down. There's nothing against my head coach a quarterback
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or GM.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome man.
He's a good friend of the program, a good friend
of mine, and I just love talking football with him.
Danny Canell joins us, of course. He was a standout
quarterback at Florida State, started in the Nation Football League.
He joined us on behalf of bet Online. I got
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and college football Week six lines. What was last Friday
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Night like for you? Obviously? DK played at Florida State.
Florida State huge win over Alabama to start the season,
but lost to Virginia on a that was a crazy
incomplete catch. He caught it, but he didn't have I
don't know by rules, it was an incomplete pass. As
emotions like watching that game.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
H Doug. So, I had about fifteen people over, a
couple of colleagues of mine from work. I had my
sister in law who went to Florida State. My wife
was there who went to Florida State. My daughters were watching,
and I thought it was going to be one because
I don't like having friends over when it's going to
be an intense game. Right, Like, I don't want to
be all stressed out, so I thought it was going
to be a comfortable win, send everybody home in halftime,
(34:03):
you know, with the comfortable leads. Instead, we're on the
edge of our seats throughout, like thinking, Holy cow, is
it's really going to happen? And then to come down,
I mean, devastating was pretty much the sentiment that was
going around. And you mentioned the Deuce Robinson catch. I
thought they got it right, like, thank goodness, because I
didn't want to have the game and Florida State fans
can be a little bit of noxious every once in
a while, so I'm glad there wasn't a call at
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the end that would have taken away from it because
it was a phenomenal game. It was a fun game,
and you have to give credit to Virginia Channel. Morris
was incredible. But it was definitely a devastating loss. But
the good news and I think this is the way
you have to approach it. If you're Mike Norvell, is
you have an opportunity to erase that loss as quickly
as possible as the game against Miami this weekend. You
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just have to make sure you do that because if
you lose back to back games. I know the win
against Bama was big, and Bama looks like they could
be really good. You just wonder what a two loss
Florida State team would look like in the committee's eyes.
But then even aside from that, like you, who knows
what the rest of the season holds for Florida State,
Like if you lose to Virginia, it's kind of like,
(35:08):
here we go again. Is this going to be another
roller coaster ride? So it was devastating on Friday nights.
But of course my family, my Florida State friends are
hoping we can erase that quickly with a nice win
against Florida against Miami this weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, how do they match up against Miami.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
At the skill positions? Really good? At the offensive and
defensive lines not so much. And that's really not a
knock against Florida State. It's more about Miami, who has
one of the best offensive lines, one of the best
defensive lines in the country. There are edge rushers Ruben
Vain and Keem mesidor absolute beast coming off the edge.
But I do think Florida State, I mean, I would
have said the same thing about the Alabama game. And
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that's the one thing that a mobile quarterback does is
it neutralizes some of that edge. And that's what you
saw actually in Virginia. I mean Chandlin Morris was from
taking that ball on his own when any time there
wasn't a place to go, and he was able to
beat him. So that's how you hand on the offensive
size ball. So it's concerning. I don't think it's something
that means you can't win. For the defense, that probably
is my biggest concern because if Carson Beck has all
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day to throw and they're able to get their running
back march Mark Fletcher going and they can march down
the field and keep it away from Florida State, that
is a way one. It devastates your morale. You can't
get off the field and it really takes the crowd
out of the game. So that's something to watch out for.
If they're driving the length of the field and they're
keeping possession of the football, that does not bold well
for Florida State, who wants to go fast, they want
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to go up tempo, they want a lot of possessions,
they want a lot of big plays. If they can't
get off the field defensively, that could be a long
night for the Seminoles.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Vanderbilt's undefeated. They take on Alabama. Alabama well lost to
Florida State, but then they go up and beat Georgia.
At Georgia, BAM is a ten and a half point
favorite in the totals fifty five and a half. Would
you like I like two.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Plays in this game. I actually think Bama kind of
puts the hammer down here. If last year it happened
right they went to Nashville, they got beat. I think
that's the best thing for Caitlin to bore. His team
has been reminded and told about that game all the
off season long. It kept him out of the playoffs
last year. I just think they're the better team. I
think they're one of the best teams in the entire country.
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And I do think that this is the opportunity for
them to kind of showcase what they can do. Diego
Pavia has been awesome and I just wonder how many
times can he put the team on his back. And
I think this is sort of when it comes to
an end for Vanderbilt. And I also like the total
in this game, where you look at the amount of
points in this one Bam I think is going to
score cart excuse me. Their quarterback Tyle Simpson has been phenomenal.
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They have so much firepower on the offensive side of
the ball, and I do think Diego Pavia will put
up some points, so I think it's a higher scoring game,
and ultimately I think BAMA pulls away and win wins
by two touchdowns or more.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, help me out here, do you Does Bobby Petrino
keep the job at Arkansas?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Unless he pulls off a miracle. They they're schedule that
they have left. They're gonna be significant underdogs. If he
somehow got to eight wins or something like that, then
he would. I really see zero chance of that happening.
They're just the schedule's too tough. I mean, he also
fired in like three of the defensive coaches. It has
me wondering who the heck is running the defense for them.
(38:18):
I mean, I'm sure they have I mean, every staff
has forty coaches on it, so they'll be bodies out
there to coach. But I just think it's going to
be an uphill battle. I do think if he got
to seven wins, it becomes interesting because I do think
there's a snific portion of the Arkansas fan base that
would love to kind of try to run it back
with them. I also wonder, too, is he the type
of coach like I saw Brent Key at Georgia Tech
(38:40):
come in as an interim coach and infuse a ton
of life into that program. But I don't know if
Bobby Petrino is that style of coach, somebody who emotionally
gets a team up. He's a little bit harsh, you know,
one of those kind of old school coaches, not afraid
to call out his players. I don't know if he
really is the type of coach that's just emotionally gonna
lift up a team when they need it the most.
So I don't think he is. And then look gets
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really interesting. Is it's not a really attractive job right now.
But that's hard to explain because they have the types
and foods money, they have Walmart money, They've got boosters
that can actually contribute, but they need to step up
to the plate and pull a package together to show
to a a potential coach, a guy like Rhet Lashley,
who who went to college there and it's probably one
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of the top coaches available, say all right, we're going
to make this an attractive job where we're going to
be able to compete with Texas, at Alabama and Georgia,
some of the programs that invest heavily in the sport
of football. But it doesn't help when they're athletic director
just a few weeks ago says we can't really compete
for a national championship like that's I thought that was
a really embarrassing look for them. So they've got some
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sort of they got some image repair to do. After
he went on the record with those comments.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
What do you think of coaches being fired this early
into the season, What do you think?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I think it's ridiculous. I mean, I really do. But
in all of those situations, Doug like, I've always been
somebody who's been preaching patience with fan bases, and I
understand where it can get frustrating because you want to
win and you want to win now, And like some
of them, they were very obvious, like there's not one
firing where I was like, oh, I get it, but
it becomes so toxic where it almost becomes impossible to
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win with anybody that's there. So they're almost trying to
win over the fan base more than they are the
actual players on the field, you know, because I think
that's what happened at Arkansas is a great example. They
get blown out at home, they're losing. At halftime, the
stadium empties out, and I think the boosters get involved.
They start pounding the table saying this is unacceptable. But
what good does it do? And there's almost this race
(40:41):
to get in line for the next big head coach,
which doesn't really make sense because all of the attractive
coaches I mentioned Rhet Lashly, John Thummrawl at Tulane. You know,
there's some really good coaches. None of them are going
to leave the jobs they're at right now. They're all
going to wait until their season is over. So unless
you're going to go hire somebody off the market, a
guy like a Jim Fisher or an Urban Meyer, you know,
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Nick Saban, if he decided to come out of retirement,
it doesn't make any sense to do it this early.
So I look at it and I scratch my head
and say, what is the purpose of this? When you're
firing coaches before the month of October. It's kind of insanity.
But it's a copycat league, you know, kind of like
every league. They see other schools do it, They're like, oh,
we better do it to get in the front of
the line for the interviews. But I don't think that
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really matters that much.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It doesn't. All it does. All it actually does is
it allows those players to either get in the portal
or if they haven't played that they haven't played that
extra the extra game, they can ride shirt that season
and save it and not play for you completely.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Legally, right, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
And in fact, I mean Arkansas they did wait for
the fifth game, right, so that kind of screwed over
the players that could have red shirted or potentially you know,
got out of the portal early. That is part of
the underbelly of the system that you know very well,
that is just a little bit shady when there's oftentimes
they're looking out for the best inters of you know,
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the program only and not really looking out for the
best interests of the players.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Football is better when everybody all the schools in Florida
are really good. Central Florida is obviously better now with
Scott Frost, Miami is back. Florida State appears to be
close to back, right, not quite there. As you point
out in lines, what about Florida can can Billy Napier?
Will he get to hang on?
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I doubt it. It kind of follows the trend too.
I mean, their boosters, their fan base, they're circling like
sharks in the water. And I fear that if they
get beat by Texas this weekend, and really if it's sideways,
but even if they only lose by a field goal
and there's some you know a lot of penalties or
sort of some sort of you know, coaching blunders that
are in there, I wonder if he survives the weekend.
(42:46):
But the crazy thing is, like we saw this story
unfold last year, like they were left for dead. They
had got blown out at home by Texas, A and
m and Miami, and then the team kind of figures
it out. They play hard, and they win their last
four games of the season and win their bowl game,
and there's all this optimism around the program. It's been
a little bit of disaster because they lose the USF
Like that's the one that's inexcusable. Their quarterback those five
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interceptions at LSU, Like, how is that on billion Apier?
You know, you could say it's on quarterback development, which
I understand, and then they lose it in Miami in
the game that was competitive for a half, but then
it's just like, man, they look like they're so far behind.
But I do think this weekend is one. I think
this is the last stand. Like, I feel like this
weekend they will get their best effort from the from
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the Florida Gators. They're playing against arch Spanning, Texas has
come into town. It's a huge brand. I think the
Swamp will be loud. And actually, what I worry about
in this situation is a fan being their worst enemy.
Like if they go three and out two series in
a row, they're going to be doing and like, what
good does that do for the team off the field?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, I don't I don't know, right, makes them feel
bad about themselves, which the kids need confidence, Like it
doesn't make any.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Sense, and I hate that for them, so I but
I actually do think the Gators will get their best
effort this week. And I'm very curious to see what
arch Man dutch because he hasn't been great. You know,
it was the last time we saw him on the
road was at the Horseshoe and he was a little
bit skittish. You know, he had the one game against
Sam Houston where it was a much inferior opponent. I'm very,
very curious to see against a defense that is pretty
(44:13):
good still in the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
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six lines. What do you think is shad Or Sanders
uh not refuse miming. I guess he mined. I guess
(44:39):
we're saying he mimed his answers when asked abou Dylan
Gabriel getting the start for the Browns.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
I mean, I thought it was idiotic. I just like,
what what are you doing? First of all, the third
string quarterback should never be speaking to the media. And
trust me, this is somebody who was a third string quarterback,
Like your job is to lay low. Your job is
to just kind of do the work, especially as a rookie,
Like even if you're a backup as a rookie, I was,
I was always kind of hiding from the media, like
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what was my position? On the team to be speaking
to the media about anything, like you're sort of one
of the lower places on the roster. I mean half
the times you're not even active for the game. And
by the way, like I saw some people saying, well,
Cleveland shouldn't have made him available. You can hide, you
know this, Doug, Like when the media availability is there,
you can go watch film, you can go in the
training room, like, you can leave unless they request to
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bring you out, and then in that circumstance, you could
still say no. But I do think Shudora loves the
spotlight and he loves talking. And not only was it
idiotic and kind of stupid to do, but what about
the fact you're on a team that's one in three,
it's been an awful season, and you're kind of joking around,
like making light of this whole situation. I'd be really
curious to know what Kevin Stefanski thinks off the record.
(45:49):
I bet he's not super enthused about.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
It, Danny, You know an he thinks, yeah, I just
know there's no question anybody. And listen, I'm telling you
this as a coach, but as also a human being,
and we both played college sports. We about to know,
there's no question he thinks he's a jackass. There's just
no question none. And he actually he actually really helped
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Kevin Stefanski with that because there's pressure to play him,
he's quite obviously not ready. And I think the big
thing is they like Dylan Gabriel because Dylan Gabriel do
exactly what they tell him to do. Right, That's like
we just just a to B B two C really
simple whatever. But because of how immature it looked. And
(46:38):
I even think Dion's telling people admitting that he told
the Ravens not to draft him because he didn't want
to be a backup. I think all of those things
it helps Stefanski where he can just coach and evaluate
Dylan Gabriel. I hope.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
So I do have a feeling. I mean, the team
has been struggling. I do wonder how like they're not
going to bench Dylan Gabriel if he throws two picks.
But I do wonder if they lose another two or
three games in a row, if Kevin Stevanski's just like,
you know what, let's roll them out there and let
everybody see and let him kind of expose themselves. And
then on the flip side of Shaduur makes the most
of it. I mean, can you imagine hysteria. It's going
to be there, will be off the charts. I just
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don't think he's ready to play either. I just thought
it was a bad look all around. But I will say,
like the Chador backers, they're not seeing any of it.
They love it. They're like, good for Shador. But those
people aren't realistic. They don't know how sports work or
an NFL locker room works. Like se Fancy, I do
agree with you. I do wonder what the locker room thinks,
because most time they do treat rookies all the same.
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It doesn't matter if you're a first round pick, third
round pick, or a fifth round pick. They kind of
expect you to shut up and go about your work.
And Shadueur has been doing anything but that. And that
is probably the most important thing. What are the players,
because they talk to other players around the league, and
if you get a bad reputation as a bad teammate
and the guy who's kind of a distraction among the players,
that could be more devastating than what the coaches think.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
No question, he's Danny Canell. He's got his own show.
He's got his own pod. Check out that online dot
ag for an updated college football playoff Heismith in College
Football Week six lines DK great stuff. As always, thanks for.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Joining us, you're the best man's Sorry for the noise.
I'm at a rental car place picking up a rental
car and I'm driving up with my two daughters up
to Tallahassee to go to the game Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
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Speaker 5 (48:21):
I'm going to I'm gonna get something nice.
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having the most spectacular day you've ever had in the
history of your life. That would be cool, right, I mean, like, wow,
that's a little different than wishing me a good day,
the most spectacular day in the history of your life.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, I feel good?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well do I do too? I do too? Okay, so congratulations.
In Major League Baseball, they fixed their regular season, by
my estimation, making it I've told you like baseball is
exciting to watch. Is it ever going to be Is
(01:11):
it going to be NFL football college football? In terms
of the contact collisions the game to game. Probably not.
It's a different vibe, right, It's just a different sport.
But they have made it a much more exciting version
of itself with the rule changes going back a year ago.
I mean, there's been several rule changes in the last
(01:32):
couple of years, but a year ago is when the
you know, the size of the bases were increased, and
that's when we had more stolen bases. The ship was eliminated,
so we've had more balls put into play, athleticism is back,
and then you know, this Wildcard Round, which is a
three game series all at the same site, has given
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us three game threes today. I think the most remarkable
thing about it, guys, if we're being completely hand, it
is the only team that swept their opponent and that
is through is the Dodgers. And we have a huge
Dodger fan on our staff, and he can't stand his
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own team. It's like he roots for their demise, roots
for their demise. Right. So yeah, I'm just sitting there
and trying to figure trying to figure out how we
got to this place where we got three game threes.
(02:36):
Super super exciting, and the baseball has They've reeled me in.
October is always the best month. I mean, I don't
know what it's like where you are in northeast Wisconsin.
We're getting a little Indian summer. It's like eighty degrees outside.
It's amazing. The weather's good. Even when the weather's not good.
The leagues turn in most parts of the country. College
football matters, NFL starts to matter, and Major League Baseball
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is great, and the playoffs are better than anything you
can imagine. The difference in level of intensity of baseball
playoffs as opposed to baseball regular season is the greatest
jump in all the sports. And then you factor in
how good these this wild card's been, and it's pretty amazing.
JAYSETU do you want to talk like why are you
still not why are you still bitter about your team?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I'm bitter about him? No, yeah, I mean just.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
In your group text. I don't worry that the bullpen
will still blow it, right, Like they spank the Reds
in two straight games. Yes, they had a bullpen guy
in each game kind of implode, but they had enough
slack if you will, to easily win both games.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I just still get the sense of you're not in
on your team.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, and I know you're you're being intellectually dishonest right now.
I mean beating the Reds in a wild card series
that's not the standard for the Dodgers. My obvious goal
is to have my team win the World Series. And
do you think they can win a World Series when
your bullpen in the last two nights in the eighth
inning has an ERA of sixty three and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Uh no, no, I don't. But again, like last night,
the guy who blew up as a rookie, wasn't he.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
She might be a secondhand guy, but our second ear guy.
But yeah, he's no heasy gone guy. Yeah, but it's
a It's not like that. It's not like this is
just an issue that happened the last two nights. It's
been a systemic issue for the entire season. The maybe
the most viral video yesterday was a video of Mason
Miller hitting one hundred and four point three Miles Prower
(04:44):
in the pottery game. The Dodgers are like, no, thanks, Nah,
we don't need to seek Mason Miller because our trade
deadline is going to be the guys coming back from injury, right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Which obviously has not worked out well for them. Listen,
it's fair, but I again, at some point just enjoy
the Dubs while being cautiously, maybe cautiously pessimistic over the
bullpen moving forward.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Let me give you an example of I mean the
difference between the Reds and the Phillies, and it kind
of comes back full circle to one of the Dodgers
weak spots. So if you look at the series with
the Phillies, Kyle Schwarber, if you look at the stats
that are ridiculous, Kyle Schwarber had one hundred and thirty
two RBIs this year from the leadoff spot, shohe Otani
(05:36):
went into the final weekend of the year needing an
RBI for one hundred. In other words, one of the
Dodgers week spotses are seven through nine. The Phillies have
done exceptionally at the bottom of their order, and then
they went out and got a frontline closer at the
tread dentline and the Dodgers did not. So no, I
(05:58):
definitely I go into each series series with this apprehension
because I know so well are flaws.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Uh, if you could be in one stadium tonight, which
stadium would it be?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And why Yankee Stadium? Without a doubt, this is the rival.
This is your your rival for decades, right.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yes, okay, but the only other option, obviously is is
Wrigley Right, like no offense to Cleveland. I don't even
know who they used to be the Jake. I don't
know what that's called now, but it's a it's a
distant third.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Aggressive stadium sponsor along the way, is that's still the field?
Progressive Field?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't know. You want to get to the Google
machine there, Sammy, that'd be great. So the question is,
and it's a really good question, you'd rather be Yankee
Stadium without a doubt because it's the Red Sox. Does
it feel the same Red Sox and Yankees?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I just think that's like next level stuff, right, A
deciding game at Yankee Stadium with the Red Socks. Whool
Dan Byerfield in for you yesterday he said that, Tom,
why go to game two? If you could go to
game three? Why go to game two? Like, the only
thing that can happen last night is that you get
really down and frustrated for losing Game two. But game three,
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my goodness, gotta be.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
There a game three Yankees. Here's what happens with me
and baseball does this probably better than anybody else, right,
It brings up nostalgia. It really makes you nostalgia for
the moment and when I first began, when I began
sports radio on a national levels with Chuck Wilson, and
it was in two thousand and three, was our first fall,
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and we did counter programming for for the other's place.
And you know, I remember when they put Pedro Martinez
back in the game. He shook everybody's hands, he had
the jacket app and then all of a sudden, he's
back for the seventh inning, and we all knew what happened.
After he hit one hundred pitches, suddenly he became hittable
after being utterly and completely unhittable before that. And that that,
(08:03):
you know, there was career long, season long statistics for it.
So I watched last night and yeah, it brought me
back to three and then to four and Dave Robert
Steel in second base. But I do think that I
don't want to see the rivalry. It's not died. It's
just not the same, right. The Red Sox have won
multiple World Series. There's not a single player or I
(08:25):
don't even know if there's a person in the organization
that was there with the comeback, and we're so far
up and even the Yankees yet the Yankees in the
World Series last year. The Red Sox haven't been there,
hasn't been the same bitterness of rivalry over the last
five to ten years, or at least it doesn't appear
that we're way outwardly so and so I think that
(08:46):
we the idea that Yankees Red Sox would probably be
the choice, But I don't know if it's as big
as slam dunk as turning down Wrigley Game three against
the Padres, even though there's no uniqueness of the rivalry
with the Padres in the Cup by er, you bitterly disagree.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Sorry, Doug, we just got some behind the scenes stuff going.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
On here, no problem. I was asking you if I
just think the Red Sox Yankees thing, while still sort
of a thing, kind of die. With the Red Sox
winning multiple World Series.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think the whole Red Sox aura did as well,
and there's a piece of it for the Cubs. But
with the matchups today, I mean, I don't know how
Yankee Stadium can get any better. Actually, I think it's
really good with the Cubs playing a day game. I
know it's probably gonna end up at night, but just
(09:43):
the feel of having that game and having the Red
Sox and Yankees actually playing now at least it's a
guaranteed three games to it. I know that we talked
a little bit yesterday and Jason and Monci weren't loving
that these teams are playing now. But it may not
be what it once was, Doug. It may not be
like it was in two thousand and three, in two
(10:03):
thousand and four, but it's still interesting. And I think
that that is at least a draw tonight. At least
you can guarantee yourself that matchup. But I almost think
that the Padres are so intriguing because of how many
times we've thought maybe it was the Padres year, and
then it wasn't. And now to Jason's point about their
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bullpen and then maybe being a contender. The Brewers didn't
have great luck with the Padres. Maybe they're the hot team.
I think that that is that is an interesting storyline
for twenty twenty five, only in just that the Padres
maybe the team that nobody outside of the Dodgers wants
to face.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Hmm. Yeah, I actually really agree with you on that.
I think that's probably what draws me to that game
is the Cubs can do the dirty work for the
Dodgers and everybody else in the NL if they just
win tonight's game. Whereas I guess maybe the Yankees are
(11:03):
that kind of juggernaut and they've been playing good ball
of late, but I don't feel like it's the same
in terms of everybody wanting them out of the playoffs,
and everybody wants the Padres out one because the Padres
are really talented. And then I don't think people love
how the Padres roll. But baseball does this to us
every year. If you're a quasi baseball fan, if you're like, man,
(11:28):
I've always loved baseball baseball, but you know, October comes
around and it reels you in, and now you have
three game threes on like a random Thursday, and then
we got great series set up. Plus you have Yankees
Red Sox. And I do think that while the Cubs
have lost their lure of being same old Cubs and
(11:48):
wait till next year, Cubs, Wrigley still is special and
I think it's gonna be a fascinating night for both places.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
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Dan Byer production. We don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Great year in my life two thousand and three. What
he got there?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Jake, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So let's see twenty this October twenty two years ago.
This October, as the Yankees and Red Sox are about
to play a deciding Game three of the Wild Card Series,
I thought I would look back on a special moment
in time in this Yankees Red Sox rivalry, and it
included the manager of the current Yankees team. What are
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the odds? What are the odds that we would focus
in on a play twenty two years ago this October,
when the manager of the current Yankees is getting ready
to play the Red Sox, Aaron Boone. He hit a
home run that no Yankee fan will ever forget. Twenty
five years after Bucky Dent hit his home run against
(14:12):
the Red Sox, Boone provided one that might be even bigger.
Game seven, Take All Game two thousand and three ALCS
the winner goes to the World Series. In the Bronx,
Pedro Martinez had been lifted or did he No, he
(14:33):
stayed in the game. That's part of the story. That's
a big part of the story.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Not through that home run. That was what fourteen.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Boone stepped in against Knockleball or Tim Wakefield. As I
get my notes sorted that fourteenth bottom of the eleventh inning. Okay,
so I think we're we got all the facts straight
as I got my notes sorted. Two thousand and three, gentlemen,
let's focus on on that. I want the listeners to
think about what you were doing in two thousand and three.
(15:00):
Damn Bayer, what do you remember most from that year?
In sports?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Two thousand and three will always be the year that
Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse won the NCAA National Championship. Oh yeah,
and just to look back at that time, it was
also a tournament and specifically Elite eight game because they
got crushed in the final four. It was also the
(15:26):
emergence of Dwayne Wade that year at Marquette. I felt
that Dwayne Wade became a household name. But then that
national championship game between Syracuse and Kansas was I don't
know if it was a classic, but it was a
darn goodwe of two coaches trying to break through and
winning their first national championship, and Beheim gets his and
(15:47):
Kansas would ultimately get theirs with Bill salf and Roy
Williams would get his with North Carolina, but never Williams
and the Jayhawks. So two thousand and three, when that
year outside of Gulf pops up, I always think of
that final four and Mellow cutting down the nets for Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Doug Head coach of Marquette with Dwayne Wade. Is he
the Harbaugh's brother in law?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yes, Tom Crean, Tom Crean, Tom Crean, I do. No,
he's a broadcaster, I think so. Two thousand and three
is a pretty big year in my life. Okay, how
much time do we have? Two thousand and three I
(16:30):
was my first year I did full time radio in
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And just to sect that before you get started, don't
take up too much time because I have to tell
you that Ben Curtis and Sean mckeel when golf majors. Okay,
so try not to take up too much time with
your stuff, because I get to the real important stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Hold on, hold on, does anybody know outside of Dan
Byro what Ben Curtis looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Too?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
First? Aim, guy, nothing. Ben Curtis was sitting next to
me right now, and he's and he had three noses.
I would like, Okay, I got nothing for you anyway.
Two thousand and three, I was I had a show
in Oklahoma City with Mark Rogers called the Middle of
to Day Show. I called games for ESPN and the
(17:15):
ESPN Regional and Cowboy Sports properties. Had bought my first house,
about our first house in Oklahoma City, and after Championship
week got a call to go back and play in France.
Played with for Cremont Feron loved it. It's the one
NCAA tournament I know. Oklahma State lost to Syracuse in
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the second round. They were up seventeen I think at
the first half. But it's one that I have very
little recollection of actual games because I was in France
and you would I only saw like the championship game
against Kansas, right that was the Bonnie Bernstein asking Roy
Williams about leaving the Kansas job for the Carolina job
(17:57):
when he went crazy, and then of course he left
the Kansas job for the Carolina job. Anyway, that year
also had Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Carmelo, Anthony Darko,
Millisi's being drafted. How do I know because that was
my end to National Radio National TV. I worked for
ESPN Radio calling the draft. Then I started ESPN radio
(18:19):
that fall, and then of course late that fall that's
when we had the Aaron Blanking Boone home run, and
I was on radio on the time with Chuck Wilson,
and I felt like running around the studio like Jack Buck,
I don't believe what I just saw. I don't believe
what I just saw. So that was a I started
that year living in Oklahoma City, was in Cement, Feront, France.
(18:44):
Actually had was with the Timberwolves in their summer league
like tryouts, didn't make the summer league team, and then
moved to Burlington, Connecticut. All in one year, big year.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
We come from France.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Wow, it was the start of it all.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Huh yeah, it was sammy Wow.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I can give you my Iowa Hawkeyes two thousand and
three recap if you'd like. I was a sophomore in
high school. They went ten to three and whooped up
on Florida in the Outback Bowl. Let's go Nathan Chandler
at quarterback, Fred Russell at running back. They had They
didn't have Dallas Clark, he had left by then. M
(19:29):
I think that's all I remember.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, you had golf, had Matt Roff.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
On the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
One of my favorite players.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did Lebron have twenty nine or thirty in his first
game of his career was against the Sacramento Kings. I
remember that it was pretty spectacular. That was in two
thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It was also the emergence of USC, right the start
of the Pete Carroll run. Now there was the controversy.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
They did beat up on Iowa the year prior that
they win the Pac ten and then they went to
the Orange Bowl and beat Iowa thirty eight seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There you go, it's more Iowa content for you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Thank you for interrupting. What was the controversy there?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Dan, Well, you had LSU and Oklahoma playing in the
BCS National Championship Game. Sure, so LSU ends up beating
the Sooners in that contest, But I felt that that's
when USC really arrived. And then the next year they
dominate win the national championship and then we know what
happened in two thousand and five with Vince Young, But
(20:37):
it felt like that was the that was the arrival
season of USC, and maybe to Sam's point, the win
over Iowa the previous year was the springboard. But yeah,
that was yeah, crazy wacky year in college football.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
NFL football, if you remember, that was a Patriots Super
Bowl win over the Carolina Panthers in four but the
three season, Peyton Manning was the MVP, and of course,
as was kind of part of the course, for the
most part, Peyton Manning lost in the playoffs. Right, he
was the he was. We used to call it Clayton Kershaw,
(21:13):
Peyton Kershaw or Clayton Manning because similar careers for a
good portion of their.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Career and in golf, and in golf, aside from Ben
Curtis winning the Open Championship and Sean mckel the PGA Championship,
Mike Weir won the Masters. The lefty from Canada was
your Masters Champion. And then Jim Furick finally broke through
winning at Olympia Fields in Chicago. Jim Furick's lone major
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victory was the two thousand and three US Open, and
Furich had been kind of the guy of best player
to never have won a major, at least in that
category of players at that time, and then was able
to break through in golf.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think there was a lot of Jim Furick mentioned
at the Ryder Cup this weekend, right isn't that what
the crowd and the players were saying to each other.
Furick you feurick you.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I I was wondering what song he was listening in
his headphones when he was warming up for that final round.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well before that, I have a personal, self important story
about Mike Weir. You guys have all played golf.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
With me and Debbie Brett Wie what I said, I
have some Taylor.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Taylor Made clubs. I went down to the San Diego
Taylor Made factory and they carved out some starter clubs
for me because Mike Weir appeared on the Jim Rome
Show and his agent said, after the interview, would you
like to get to fit into some clubs? I said,
I love free things and I'll see you in San Diego.
(22:50):
So the clubs that I still have, Dan and you
could tell me twenty two years later, is that a
long time to have the one?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I I yeah, I'd probably switch about. I think he
can only do you a little bit of good.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, there's three months till Christmas. If you uh, if
you're looking.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
For maybe even a birthday in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There you go. But yeah, as Mike Whir was getting
ready to win that that major. He was listening to
something in his uh I iPhones iPads two thousand. We
didn't what was it?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, maybe player iPod maybe was even that early.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't think so. Maybe people had like still it
might have been.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
M three three players. Yeah, yeah, And this is what
he was listening to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When I'm down.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is three Doors Down.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They no no no one, three doors down wronggo three
doors down, sorry, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Number one on the charts for six weeks in two
thousand and three. This is uh three doors downs. Uh,
maybe greatest hit, most downloaded hit. I know Dan Byer
walked into the studio, uh just ten minutes ago and
had it on his phone, like very accessible on his phone.
So it speaks to how popular the song was at
one point.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, there's there's other three Doors Down songs on my
phone as well. But when you guys asked, I was
willing to pull this one up right away?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Was it downloaded via LimeWire onto your MP three player?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I did the LimeWire thing, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Hell yah, I tried.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
I tried downloading a few songs on LimeWire with dial
up internet, and it took like twenty seven hours to
do like two songs.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Times.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Bringing Down the House was the biggest grossing film. Is
that right? Reading that right?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I've not even heard of that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's in that's in March. I don't know why I did.
I that's that's that's.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Wrong Steve Martin and Queen Latifa.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And you made a hundred million dollars. I never even
heard of that. Lord of the Rings The Return of
the King was the number one grossing movie. It made
three hundred and seventy seven million dollars. Finding Nemo Finding
Nemo made three hundred and thirty nine million dollars. There's
also Pirates of the Caribbean or Caribbean depending upon your pronunciation.
(25:19):
The Curse of the Black Pearl. The Matrix Reloaded was
number four. Bruce Almighty was five x two X Men
United with six Elf, which my son believes is the
greatest Christmas movie ever. Hey, listen, it's not bad parenting,
it's just a bad decision on his part. Terminator three,
Rise of the Machines was eight. The Matrix Revolution was
(25:40):
also same year. That's number nine, and Cheaper by the Dozen,
which is a terrible movie, was ten.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I just want to jump in. I usually let you
guys handle this, but I did want to look up
what TV was like then. That's when Joe Millionaire aired
on Fox. Do you guys remember that one?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is that kind of the precursor to The Bachelor? Like
in a way like he had a bunch of women
trying to go after a guy who they thought was
a millionaire but wasn't, but they didn't know that he
wasn't a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I wouldn't doubt it if it was a precursor. Maybe
the Bachelor was in works at that point. But I
think that that's a great, great insight. There were a
lot of awful shows like that that came after The.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Wire was the number one show, and The Wire is
one of the great shows ever. That was two thousand
and three.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well that's what somebody said. According to the ratings, CSI
was the number one show at least in the spring
of two thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Broadcast counted back then, so ratings people watched actual over
the air TV, the Wire on HBO. Yes, yeah, so
take a lot of people didn't. That's why CSI would
out outdo it.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
By the way, this Joe Millionaire guy looks like kind
of like Mark Sanchez. You know, yeah, he was a
good looking guy. Absolutely, if I was a B and
he was a B. Here's the funny thing about TV ratings.
Monday Night Football was tenth.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Like CSI Friends, Joe millionaire Er, American Idol survivor, everybody
loves Raymond, Law and Order all beat Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, I think it's a real
thing that people don't realize that the NFL was not
always king, Like this NFL king thing has been what
the last fifteen years by fifteen, well I.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Would I would also say too though along with that,
with what Doug just said, it also tells you that
the only thing people are watching on over the RTV
right now are live sports. Right. That's like they're just
not watching dramas or sitcoms or reality shows. They're watching
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sports live and those get rated and then everything else
is like DVR or whatever. Right, sure, and these and
these are also the prime time show that you would get.
But if you do look in future years, you see
Sunday Night Football at the top or near the top,
Like in twenty sixteen, Sunday Night Football had a twelve
point six rating. So they're not taking the Sunday Afternoon
(28:13):
Fox game, but the Monday Night Football came back in
two thousand and three, there were ten other shows that
were or nine other shows that were getting higher ratings.
I have a question, let's bring this, let's bring this
whole full circle. Who was playing in that game? Dan,
I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I'm not sure because oh oops, yeah, it probably would
have well for your It was at two thousand and two.
Two thousand and three ratings were the ones that I
was looking at in the next The next year ratings
two thousand and three and two thousand and four, which
again is half the year, Monday Night Football was ninth.
So even even in those ratings with again CSI number one,
(28:52):
American Idol second and third.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
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join us in five minutes. So another year, more ugly
Eagles wins and more of the malcontent than is aj Brown, Right,
here's aj Brown addressing the media yesterday.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
This is home, this is this is my home. You know, Uh,
this un fortunately I did it to myself. You know,
I would't even say unfortunately I did it to myself.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But this is my home.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I love it here.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But you just see frustration because obviously, you know, we
want to be great, and most definitely I want to
be great as well. Sunday after the games, I did
my frustrations boil over. I didn't speak to the media.
I had a chance to correct my my frustrations, and
I continue to let it boil over.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
That's on me.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You know. I take full accountability on that posting that.
Uh my message on Twitter wasn't director of anyone in
the building, my coaches, on my quarterback GM and nobody,
you know, Like I said, I take full accountability. I
think it's normal to have frustrations because of the standard
that we hold ourselves to. We have a lot of
talent on our offense and and to be honest, defense
and special teams have been low key carrying us, you know,
(30:20):
and it's it's just like we need to clean up
who we need to clean up and get on the
same page. And you know and play to the building
that we that we say that we can and be
who we are hoop car to be. So it's it's
a standard that we preach and so so it's yeah,
so it's easy to have that frustration. I think it's
fair to have that frustration. But like I said, I
just can't let that all over.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So here's the tweet. If you're not welcome, not listen
to quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders
and be on your way, right, Which.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I get.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That's you know, it's a it's a cryptic biblical message, right,
and you're you're trying to put tweeding. It is the
complete opposite of what the verse says, right, quietly beyond
your way. So we tweeted out to our hundreds of
(31:12):
thousands of followers. Yeah, that's the opposite of being quiet,
that's being cryptic. And you just want a game. You
just want a game. So is their offense great?
Speaker 7 (31:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And yeah he had nine targets, a couple of bad throws,
a couple were just just because or whatever. But they
won the game thirty one to twenty one. They're undefeated
on the season, they're defending Super Bowl Champion, like, let's
take our dubs a little bit here, and whatever you
share publicly has got to be positive, and whatever you
want to work on, you do that behind the scenes.
(31:49):
What was gained nothing, Nothing was gained by by tweeting
that nothing. If, in fact, like I said, you're you're
being a hypocrite. If you're talking about quietly withdrawing and
not making a scene, tweeting about it is the opposite
(32:10):
of what your what the Bible verse says. And by
the way, that's not it's accountabil it's being accountable to say, yeah,
I did it, my bad, I was wrong. Full accountability
is okay, I get suspended for this. If I could
find for this, I don't complain about it. I'm fully accountable.
It was wrong.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
We move on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, Doug, for the record, that aj Brown tweet has
been taken down, but it was up as of yesterday
at this time, So something in the last twenty four hours,
including his recent comments, made him take that tweet down.
But it was up yesterday while we were doing your show,
So just odd that it would sit up there for
three days and then now, oh, kind of I'm taking
it down. There's nothing against my head coach a quarterback
(32:54):
or GM.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome man.
He's a good friend of the program, a good friend
of mine, and I just love talking football with him.
Danny Canell joins us, of course. He was a standout
quarterback at Florida State, started in the Nation Football League.
He joined us on behalf of bet Online. I got
bet online dot ag for updated college football playoff, Heisman
and college football Week six lines. What was last Friday
(33:22):
Night like for you? Obviously? DK played at Florida State.
Florida State huge win over Alabama to start the season,
but lost to Virginia on a that was a crazy
incomplete catch. He caught it, but he didn't have I
don't know by rules, it was an incomplete pass. As
emotions like watching that game.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
H Doug. So, I had about fifteen people over, a
couple of colleagues of mine from work. I had my
sister in law who went to Florida State. My wife
was there who went to Florida State. My daughters were watching,
and I thought it was going to be one because
I don't like having friends over when it's going to
be an intense game. Right, Like, I don't want to
be all stressed out, so I thought it was going
to be a comfortable win, send everybody home in halftime,
(34:03):
you know, with the comfortable leads. Instead, we're on the
edge of our seats throughout, like thinking, Holy cow, is
it's really going to happen? And then to come down,
I mean, devastating was pretty much the sentiment that was
going around. And you mentioned the Deuce Robinson catch. I
thought they got it right, like, thank goodness, because I
didn't want to have the game and Florida State fans
can be a little bit of noxious every once in
a while, so I'm glad there wasn't a call at
(34:26):
the end that would have taken away from it because
it was a phenomenal game. It was a fun game,
and you have to give credit to Virginia Channel. Morris
was incredible. But it was definitely a devastating loss. But
the good news and I think this is the way
you have to approach it. If you're Mike Norvell, is
you have an opportunity to erase that loss as quickly
as possible as the game against Miami this weekend. You
(34:47):
just have to make sure you do that because if
you lose back to back games. I know the win
against Bama was big, and Bama looks like they could
be really good. You just wonder what a two loss
Florida State team would look like in the committee's eyes.
But then even aside from that, like you, who knows
what the rest of the season holds for Florida State,
Like if you lose to Virginia, it's kind of like,
(35:08):
here we go again. Is this going to be another
roller coaster ride? So it was devastating on Friday nights.
But of course my family, my Florida State friends are
hoping we can erase that quickly with a nice win
against Florida against Miami this weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, how do they match up against Miami.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
At the skill positions? Really good? At the offensive and
defensive lines not so much. And that's really not a
knock against Florida State. It's more about Miami, who has
one of the best offensive lines, one of the best
defensive lines in the country. There are edge rushers Ruben
Vain and Keem mesidor absolute beast coming off the edge.
But I do think Florida State, I mean, I would
have said the same thing about the Alabama game. And
(35:46):
that's the one thing that a mobile quarterback does is
it neutralizes some of that edge. And that's what you
saw actually in Virginia. I mean Chandlin Morris was from
taking that ball on his own when any time there
wasn't a place to go, and he was able to
beat him. So that's how you hand on the offensive
size ball. So it's concerning. I don't think it's something
that means you can't win. For the defense, that probably
is my biggest concern because if Carson Beck has all
(36:09):
day to throw and they're able to get their running
back march Mark Fletcher going and they can march down
the field and keep it away from Florida State, that
is a way one. It devastates your morale. You can't
get off the field and it really takes the crowd
out of the game. So that's something to watch out for.
If they're driving the length of the field and they're
keeping possession of the football, that does not bold well
for Florida State, who wants to go fast, they want
(36:31):
to go up tempo, they want a lot of possessions,
they want a lot of big plays. If they can't
get off the field defensively, that could be a long
night for the Seminoles.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Vanderbilt's undefeated. They take on Alabama. Alabama well lost to
Florida State, but then they go up and beat Georgia.
At Georgia, BAM is a ten and a half point
favorite in the totals fifty five and a half. Would
you like I like two.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Plays in this game. I actually think Bama kind of
puts the hammer down here. If last year it happened
right they went to Nashville, they got beat. I think
that's the best thing for Caitlin to bore. His team
has been reminded and told about that game all the
off season long. It kept him out of the playoffs
last year. I just think they're the better team. I
think they're one of the best teams in the entire country.
(37:13):
And I do think that this is the opportunity for
them to kind of showcase what they can do. Diego
Pavia has been awesome and I just wonder how many
times can he put the team on his back. And
I think this is sort of when it comes to
an end for Vanderbilt. And I also like the total
in this game, where you look at the amount of
points in this one Bam I think is going to
score cart excuse me. Their quarterback Tyle Simpson has been phenomenal.
(37:37):
They have so much firepower on the offensive side of
the ball, and I do think Diego Pavia will put
up some points, so I think it's a higher scoring game,
and ultimately I think BAMA pulls away and win wins
by two touchdowns or more.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, help me out here, do you Does Bobby Petrino
keep the job at Arkansas?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Unless he pulls off a miracle. They they're schedule that
they have left. They're gonna be significant underdogs. If he
somehow got to eight wins or something like that, then
he would. I really see zero chance of that happening.
They're just the schedule's too tough. I mean, he also
fired in like three of the defensive coaches. It has
me wondering who the heck is running the defense for them.
(38:18):
I mean, I'm sure they have I mean, every staff
has forty coaches on it, so they'll be bodies out
there to coach. But I just think it's going to
be an uphill battle. I do think if he got
to seven wins, it becomes interesting because I do think
there's a snific portion of the Arkansas fan base that
would love to kind of try to run it back
with them. I also wonder, too, is he the type
of coach like I saw Brent Key at Georgia Tech
(38:40):
come in as an interim coach and infuse a ton
of life into that program. But I don't know if
Bobby Petrino is that style of coach, somebody who emotionally
gets a team up. He's a little bit harsh, you know,
one of those kind of old school coaches, not afraid
to call out his players. I don't know if he
really is the type of coach that's just emotionally gonna
lift up a team when they need it the most.
So I don't think he is. And then look gets
(39:03):
really interesting. Is it's not a really attractive job right now.
But that's hard to explain because they have the types
and foods money, they have Walmart money, They've got boosters
that can actually contribute, but they need to step up
to the plate and pull a package together to show
to a a potential coach, a guy like Rhet Lashley,
who who went to college there and it's probably one
(39:24):
of the top coaches available, say all right, we're going
to make this an attractive job where we're going to
be able to compete with Texas, at Alabama and Georgia,
some of the programs that invest heavily in the sport
of football. But it doesn't help when they're athletic director
just a few weeks ago says we can't really compete
for a national championship like that's I thought that was
a really embarrassing look for them. So they've got some
(39:45):
sort of they got some image repair to do. After
he went on the record with those comments.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
What do you think of coaches being fired this early
into the season, What do you think?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I think it's ridiculous. I mean, I really do. But
in all of those situations, Doug like, I've always been
somebody who's been preaching patience with fan bases, and I
understand where it can get frustrating because you want to
win and you want to win now, And like some
of them, they were very obvious, like there's not one
firing where I was like, oh, I get it, but
it becomes so toxic where it almost becomes impossible to
(40:20):
win with anybody that's there. So they're almost trying to
win over the fan base more than they are the
actual players on the field, you know, because I think
that's what happened at Arkansas is a great example. They
get blown out at home, they're losing. At halftime, the
stadium empties out, and I think the boosters get involved.
They start pounding the table saying this is unacceptable. But
what good does it do? And there's almost this race
(40:41):
to get in line for the next big head coach,
which doesn't really make sense because all of the attractive
coaches I mentioned Rhet Lashly, John Thummrawl at Tulane. You know,
there's some really good coaches. None of them are going
to leave the jobs they're at right now. They're all
going to wait until their season is over. So unless
you're going to go hire somebody off the market, a
guy like a Jim Fisher or an Urban Meyer, you know,
(41:02):
Nick Saban, if he decided to come out of retirement,
it doesn't make any sense to do it this early.
So I look at it and I scratch my head
and say, what is the purpose of this? When you're
firing coaches before the month of October. It's kind of insanity.
But it's a copycat league, you know, kind of like
every league. They see other schools do it, They're like, oh,
we better do it to get in the front of
the line for the interviews. But I don't think that
(41:23):
really matters that much.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It doesn't. All it does. All it actually does is
it allows those players to either get in the portal
or if they haven't played that they haven't played that
extra the extra game, they can ride shirt that season
and save it and not play for you completely.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Legally, right, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
And in fact, I mean Arkansas they did wait for
the fifth game, right, so that kind of screwed over
the players that could have red shirted or potentially you know,
got out of the portal early. That is part of
the underbelly of the system that you know very well,
that is just a little bit shady when there's oftentimes
they're looking out for the best inters of you know,
(42:01):
the program only and not really looking out for the
best interests of the players.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Football is better when everybody all the schools in Florida
are really good. Central Florida is obviously better now with
Scott Frost, Miami is back. Florida State appears to be
close to back, right, not quite there. As you point
out in lines, what about Florida can can Billy Napier?
Will he get to hang on?
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I doubt it. It kind of follows the trend too.
I mean, their boosters, their fan base, they're circling like
sharks in the water. And I fear that if they
get beat by Texas this weekend, and really if it's sideways,
but even if they only lose by a field goal
and there's some you know a lot of penalties or
sort of some sort of you know, coaching blunders that
are in there, I wonder if he survives the weekend.
(42:46):
But the crazy thing is, like we saw this story
unfold last year, like they were left for dead. They
had got blown out at home by Texas, A and
m and Miami, and then the team kind of figures
it out. They play hard, and they win their last
four games of the season and win their bowl game,
and there's all this optimism around the program. It's been
a little bit of disaster because they lose the USF
Like that's the one that's inexcusable. Their quarterback those five
(43:08):
interceptions at LSU, Like, how is that on billion Apier?
You know, you could say it's on quarterback development, which
I understand, and then they lose it in Miami in
the game that was competitive for a half, but then
it's just like, man, they look like they're so far behind.
But I do think this weekend is one. I think
this is the last stand. Like, I feel like this
weekend they will get their best effort from the from
(43:29):
the Florida Gators. They're playing against arch Spanning, Texas has
come into town. It's a huge brand. I think the
Swamp will be loud. And actually, what I worry about
in this situation is a fan being their worst enemy.
Like if they go three and out two series in
a row, they're going to be doing and like, what
good does that do for the team off the field?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, I don't I don't know, right, makes them feel
bad about themselves, which the kids need confidence, Like it
doesn't make any.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Sense, and I hate that for them, so I but
I actually do think the Gators will get their best
effort this week. And I'm very curious to see what
arch Man dutch because he hasn't been great. You know,
it was the last time we saw him on the
road was at the Horseshoe and he was a little
bit skittish. You know, he had the one game against
Sam Houston where it was a much inferior opponent. I'm very,
very curious to see against a defense that is pretty
(44:13):
good still in the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
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six lines. What do you think is shad Or Sanders
uh not refuse miming. I guess he mined. I guess
(44:39):
we're saying he mimed his answers when asked abou Dylan
Gabriel getting the start for the Browns.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
I mean, I thought it was idiotic. I just like,
what what are you doing? First of all, the third
string quarterback should never be speaking to the media. And
trust me, this is somebody who was a third string quarterback,
Like your job is to lay low. Your job is
to just kind of do the work, especially as a rookie,
Like even if you're a backup as a rookie, I was,
I was always kind of hiding from the media, like
(45:07):
what was my position? On the team to be speaking
to the media about anything, like you're sort of one
of the lower places on the roster. I mean half
the times you're not even active for the game. And
by the way, like I saw some people saying, well,
Cleveland shouldn't have made him available. You can hide, you
know this, Doug, Like when the media availability is there,
you can go watch film, you can go in the
training room, like, you can leave unless they request to
(45:28):
bring you out, and then in that circumstance, you could
still say no. But I do think Shudora loves the
spotlight and he loves talking. And not only was it
idiotic and kind of stupid to do, but what about
the fact you're on a team that's one in three,
it's been an awful season, and you're kind of joking around,
like making light of this whole situation. I'd be really
curious to know what Kevin Stefanski thinks off the record.
(45:49):
I bet he's not super enthused about.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
It, Danny, You know an he thinks, yeah, I just
know there's no question anybody. And listen, I'm telling you
this as a coach, but as also a human being,
and we both played college sports. We about to know,
there's no question he thinks he's a jackass. There's just
no question none. And he actually he actually really helped
(46:16):
Kevin Stefanski with that because there's pressure to play him,
he's quite obviously not ready. And I think the big
thing is they like Dylan Gabriel because Dylan Gabriel do
exactly what they tell him to do. Right, That's like
we just just a to B B two C really
simple whatever. But because of how immature it looked. And
(46:38):
I even think Dion's telling people admitting that he told
the Ravens not to draft him because he didn't want
to be a backup. I think all of those things
it helps Stefanski where he can just coach and evaluate
Dylan Gabriel. I hope.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
So I do have a feeling. I mean, the team
has been struggling. I do wonder how like they're not
going to bench Dylan Gabriel if he throws two picks.
But I do wonder if they lose another two or
three games in a row, if Kevin Stevanski's just like,
you know what, let's roll them out there and let
everybody see and let him kind of expose themselves. And
then on the flip side of Shaduur makes the most
of it. I mean, can you imagine hysteria. It's going
to be there, will be off the charts. I just
(47:13):
don't think he's ready to play either. I just thought
it was a bad look all around. But I will say,
like the Chador backers, they're not seeing any of it.
They love it. They're like, good for Shador. But those
people aren't realistic. They don't know how sports work or
an NFL locker room works. Like se Fancy, I do
agree with you. I do wonder what the locker room thinks,
because most time they do treat rookies all the same.
(47:34):
It doesn't matter if you're a first round pick, third
round pick, or a fifth round pick. They kind of
expect you to shut up and go about your work.
And Shadueur has been doing anything but that. And that
is probably the most important thing. What are the players,
because they talk to other players around the league, and
if you get a bad reputation as a bad teammate
and the guy who's kind of a distraction among the players,
that could be more devastating than what the coaches think.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
No question, he's Danny Canell. He's got his own show.
He's got his own pod. Check out that online dot
ag for an updated college football playoff Heismith in College
Football Week six lines DK great stuff. As always, thanks for.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Joining us, you're the best man's Sorry for the noise.
I'm at a rental car place picking up a rental
car and I'm driving up with my two daughters up
to Tallahassee to go to the game Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
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get the mustag.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
I'm going to I'm gonna get something nice.
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