October 3, 2025 • 49 mins
On a Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug second guesses Rams' head coach Sean McVay after he called a run play on the 4th and 1 play that ended their chances to win Thursday night.
Doug talks about an exchange between a reporter and Padres' star Manny Machado and explains why Machado was way out of line in how he responded.
Doug riffs on Lamar Jackson before welcoming former Bucs GM Mark Dominik onto the show to break down the Rams-49ers game, Shedeur Sanders and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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great show for you here on the DG Show, as
once again Jay stew continues to just swim in the
money from his picks, which are really the fade of
another pick, and he appears to be a genius. We
got a lot to get to Major League Baseball's DS's
that's the Divisional series are set. Couldn't get any better
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with Cubs and Brewers, Yankees takedown the Red Sox. I'd
like to point out all my predictions for who would
win these series that I had any idea about. I
didn't really know Detroit and Cleveland, although my guest was
Detroit would win because they were better all season long.
But anyway, my predictions came, came, came correct, and now
we got we got some big ones. Right, Dodgers, Phills
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and Cubs Brewers the Craig Council Series, if you will.
And then you know, in the American League, the Yankees
go take on the Mariners, is that right? The Yankees
take on the Mariners. Yankees take on the Blue Jays,
and then the Mariners get a chance to play Detroit, right,
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And you know last time the Mariners were this good,
the Yankees took them down. How many gud they win?
Like one hundred and something games, and that was like,
I don't know if it's like twenty five years ago.
So we got some Major League Baseball to get to.
But I want to start with the National Football League
because a couple things came predictably true last night with
the Niners holding on to take down the Rams. I
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do want to talk about punching out of football, which
it's interesting the things that happened last night we talked
about on this show. Jay Stu predicted two things. Early
in the week. He's like, I think they're going to
take punching a football out of football for next year,
and I disagreed, but he did bring up punching out
of football and then he said, hey, my my picks
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every week are whatever Cowherd loves, I'm doing the opposite.
So Jay sue, heck of a night for you, because
the punch out of Caroen Williams touchdown ends up being
the being the difference, and as predicted, colin'sert, Callen Cowhert's
pick was what was wrong?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He has he does his Blazing five, but there's always
a Thursday night game. So sometimes he'll be like, I
have a favorite game this week, and I can't put
it under my Blazing five. But if I could, I
would have put the game last night in there. So
that was that was the prompt to me, as you
put it to fade the bet, I'm five and zero
on games that Cowherd says are his favorite play of
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the week.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thank you Colin, Yeah, thank you, thank you Colin. That
that come from one Jason Stewart. Right, Let's get to
the game itself. Because you had you had Mac Jones.
What was he wearing? What what was he What was
the idea behind that? That was terrible? That was it
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was like a bad Halloween costume where it was a
suit black on one side, red on the other team Colors. Sure,
but that had somebody he had to lose a bet
or have it did feel like there's some designer. Throw
this on for your walk in. It'll be cool. Then
he ends up winning the game. Now he's at a
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press conference wearing the same ugly suit. It was like
a two face suit. Maybe there's an inside joke, but
nobody asked him about it. That was bad. Here's Sean
McVay taking ownership over the play call in the last play.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a bad call.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's a bad call by me. Thought about maybe trying
to draw him off sides. I took one, they took
the other, and it was a poor decision by me
right there. But you know, you give the Niners credit.
They made enough places to be able to win the
football game. We had plenty of chances throughout this game.
You know, we stayed in it. We fought, we battled.
But I'm pretty sick right now. I'm sick of the
spot that I put our group in to end the game.
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But hey, these are the tough beats that you got
to be able to learn from and move forward. And
that's what we're going to.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Do, Isilo. What did you think of that last call
the fourth and one?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I was, I was, I was stunned. So often in
the NFL we'll see fifty to fifty go forward on
fourth down or whatever, and I thought to go forward
on fourth down there was absolutely the right thing to do.
But I'm shocked in how many situations they do a
run straight up the middle to a stacked defensive front.
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Because what did the forty nine ers do after the
Kyron Williams fumble at the end of regulation. I understand
you want to be conservative, you don't want to throw it,
but they ran three times up up the middle, right
into a stacked defense, and the Rams didn't learn the
lesson for that. I have no problem running the ball.
I just have a problem running it right into the
strength of the defense. Well, who's your best player, Matthew Stafford?
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Why would you pook and Nakua DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There was It's really interesting because Sean McVay is obviously
when he's hired as youngest coach in the league, and
and it's it's crazy how much sex success he's had.
And and this.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Is when you think about it, huh nothing, both coaches. No, no, no,
you just misspoke success And I made a I made
a witty retort.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Sorry, Okay, no, but I mean he's had a remarkable
amount of success at a very young age and now
he's been in the league for as the head coach
for like a decade, like it's you know, been into
super bowls, won one, and you know, last year they
were trending away where I thought, if the weather would
have been at least reasonable, like kind of could have
beaten the Eagles last year out And maybe I'm crazy,
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but I think they could have won that game. Nonetheless, Nonetheless,
like offensive play calling, creativity is what he does best.
They won a Super Bowl essentially having the last drive
with one player, you know, a wide receiver who they
in Cooper Cup, just constantly getting open. Now you have
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Pooka Naka, like, what are we doing there?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
And Doug that's a great point because on that drive
in the Super Bowl, they had the same situation. They
had a fourth down and they ran Cooper Cup on
an end around.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, So you know, look, I understand that, I truly
understand that. When you're over there and you're calling plays,
you know, who's going to think they're going to run
it again? Right like none of us thought they would.
But and you don't have a quarterback it's not like
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you have a run pass option on a quarterback like
Matt Stafford is. He's not. He's he's still pretty mobile
back there, but like with his back with his A
there ain't no way that he's gonna run for it.
But I was stunned at the play calling, especially the
way that the game is officiated, where it really becomes
pro offense when it comes to wide receivers of getting open.
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You know, they call holding, they call past interference, they
call legal hands, they call all these all this different stuff.
I just I was really surprised. Now, truth be told,
I don't think it. It may matter at the end
of the year. It may not in that they'll probably
both be playoff teams. I could be wrong, but I
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was stunned at a young coach who felt like an
old coach with the just run the damn ball, only
three things can happen when you throw it sort of mentality,
and they end up losing a game because of it.
Just really really surprised by it, really surprised by it. Sam.
You just Sam Kensell just sent me a text with
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the two face suit, right, That's that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
My favorite two face Tommy Jones from the nineties, Tommy
Lee Jones. Yeah, it's it's it's and there's even I'm
seeing even like a cartoon of Mac Jones's head on
two faces body, So it's it's. You know, I don't
know guys in pros. Pro athletes make weird wardrobe choices
that are like people tell them they're ahead of the game,
and we all maybe laugh at them, but they are
(08:19):
laughing all the way to you know whatever the bank.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I guess, muh, I just I look at this and
I I think to myself, Okay, I think to myself,
this is a game in where it's the Rams, Like
you gotta be kicking yourself. You get the Niners. And granted,
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as we said, and so many of the things we
talked about this week all culminated last night at SOFI. Right,
so many of the things culminated it so Fi. I
talked yesterday about how it would be a Niner home game.
Was that a Niner home game? Is that It's one
of the more amazing things ever, is that the Chargers
constantly get told about how they play only road games
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when they're playing at home, and that game every year
the Niners, I understand anything like it, Go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I was just gonna say, so, you know, I was
at the Rams hosting the Colts last Sunday, and it
was harder to tell there were a lot of Colts
fans there, but obviously they share blue and even Rams
back in the day used to be blue and white
as their color scheme. But you could definitely tell last night.
I mean, it felt like the Rams were well overpowering
the Colts fans on Sunday, but this time it felt
like a lot more kind of burgundy in there. Like
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there were so many Niners fans they it seemed like
they were outnumbering the Rams fans.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It does you think you mean last.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Week or no, no, no, yesterday, Niners fans are out
numbering Rams fans. I think obviously Niners fans were traveling.
They took the day off of work, and then like
Rams fans had to, you know, get out of work,
get there as fast as they could, you know, and
maybe they sold their tickets because Thursday night, maybe they
just couldn't couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But somebody we talked about punching out the ball that
happened at the end of regulation as a game changing
play and we talked about Colherd, we talked about the
home crowd, and then there's just this actually goes back
to something that Jay Stewart, I'm gonna give you credit again,
just thought about this. Do you remember we were talking
about how you hate prediction radio and you hate we
all hate predicting like records, right, like, oh, that's gonna
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be a big game because you don't know who's going
to be playing, especially in the NFL. That was like
a week long discussion that we had. I mean, here's
a perfect example. The the Rams get a beaten up
Niners team that starts their backup quarterback. Several other key
backups are playing, and I mean the number was obviously
bloated to I think eight and a half, maybe even
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eight it maybe what came down to eight at kickoff.
So it's not just that you lost a divisional game.
It's not just the lost divisional game at home. It's
not just the lost divisional game at home that I mean,
you're right there on fourth down. You can kick, and
you can kick the ball. You don't have to go.
There's no rule says you have to go for when
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you're down three in overtime? Is there a rule. I
haven't seen that rule of there's one. But then when
you factor in the opportunity you had to beat the
Niners when the Niners aren't whole this early in the season,
it feels like a loss in a half. And you
have the kind of half bye week here as well, right,
you have the half bye week as well. So I
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look at this thing and I'm just I'm telling you,
I thought that loss was devastating for the Rams. Obviously,
now the mac Jones has swagger. The issue I would
have with people hopping on the mac Jones bandwagon where
Kyle Shanahan has always really wanted to coach mac Jones,
supposedly wanted to draft mac Jones when they trade up
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and drafted Trey Lance instead. But I would be cautious
of the mac Jones fandom only from this standpoint. How
many times have we seen a backup come in and
win a game and you're like, that guy's the guy,
and then the more games they play, suddenly you realize
why they were backup. I mean, I could use so
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many instances. I mean Joe Flacco obviously a couple of
years ago with the Browns getting them to the playoffs,
and he's been fine, but he's not that guy in
a consistent basis. And we could kind of go through
the league and talk about backup quarterbacks and how they
win a game, but then the next week they come out,
you have that expectation they'll be the same guy, and
they're just simply not. Here's Kyle Shanahan talking about Matt
John's performance.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
He played his ass off man was unbelievable in the
first half, got banged up a little bit there in
the second half and battled through it and protected the ball,
going against that defense and throwing the ball that many
times and not having a turnover and protecting them like
you did. I can't send up good things about Mack.
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way tire buying should be. So I've never well, when
I say I've never taken a broadcasting class, I've never
actually taken a broadcasting class. I took one course in
junior college, so Notre Dame for a year, went to
Golden West College in Hunting the Beach, California for a year,
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and then went to Oakland State for three years. I've
taken one technical technically, it's a journalism class in my
life in schools Now, yes, there's the School of Hard Nacts,
if you will, and there's there's also there's a kind
of another layer to it, if you will, in that
when I was the ESPN. We'll get to this. They
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they did train people on interviewing if you were on air,
and I'll get to that in a moment. So I've
never taken a journalism class. And yet I would say again,
this is this is my own ego. I think like
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Dan Patrick as somebody have always emulated as an interviewer.
I do like that Jim Rome oftentimes would ask hard questions.
I just didn't like the formula by which he came
upon asking those those questions and the way in which
he asked them. But I do think that, you know,
like Romie would have really good interviews back in the day.
(14:52):
There there's some others, but those are the two in
terms of sports radio that I look up to. I'm
just gonna be honest, I put myself in in their
class with anybody. I have plenty of plenty of interviews
I can play for where I got good stuff out
of good people. And of course we have the All
Ball podcast, which is all interview, long form and whatever.
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And I'm a curious person. I like to ask questions
that I don't know the answer to. That's a little
bit why I kind of side with the Dan Patrick style.
But I also have kind of cleaned up a lot
of a lot of my questions from way way earlier
in my career because there's a guy at ESPN named
John Sawatsky. He's a Canadian journalist, and he came up
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with kind of like the Sawatsky method for interviewing. And
when I was at ESPN, I was like probably the
second year he was. He was employed as a like
a consultant but like I might've been a full time
consultant and we would have like a two day course
on interviewing, and you can kind of go back and
it would usually be I think it was like late summer, know,
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and late summer you'd have in a room. You'd have Dan, Mike,
and Mike how Heard, myself and I sometimes I think
they staggered it. So we weren't all off the air
one day, but it felt like we were all off
the air one day, Like I knew Mike and Mike
was was in there when we did it. And his
general belief was that some of the people you think
(16:24):
are the best interviewers are actually the worst, and he
did it did feel like he picked on Larry King
a little bit, but rightfully so when you listen to
the actual questions that Larry King asked. One of the
examples is, you know, he said avoid a trigger word,
because someone you interview will react to the trigger word.
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So if you listen, Larry King used to ask people
or you shot by what you saw and then sometimes
they would get the the the proper response. It's like
it's it's almost implanted a word into your brain, and
so sometimes people would react to the word. No, I wasn't.
I wasn't shocked, but what I saw Larry or yes, Larry,
(17:09):
I was shocked by what I was shocked before I
saw Larry. That's like, that's what he he wants you
to say that word, So he says that word in
the question when the reality is you got to let
somebody use their own vocabulary and use their own description.
So the proper way of asking a question is what
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was your reaction to what you saw? Open? And it's neutral, Who?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
When?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Why? How? It's not a double header. You know when
people ask two questions. They do that a lot of
times at the White House, some because they don't think
they'll get called on again. But still it's terrible questioning,
terrible line of question. No, yes, knows open in a
neutral no trigger words, no double headers. You know, it's all.
(17:59):
There's also that don't assume. And then the other one
is go in chronological order, right, like you don't ask
I don't ask Jason Stewart if I'm interviewing Jason Stewart
about Game two of the Dodgers game Dodgers series, and
then go, hey, what about in August when the Dodgers
were scuffling. What'd you think is show? Hey, then like
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your your brain doesn't work that way. There's a starting
point at any point, and the whole path has to
work in chronological order. So last night the Cubs take
down the Padres, and I mean, the last call of
the game was a terrible call. But the Padres are
a team that This is the second straight year where
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you feel like the Padres have a great shot to
steal one on the road. Remember last year they're up
two games to one and the best of five series
against the La Dodgers. Dodgers are scuffling. Jay s Douw
has already decided that everybody's going to be fired, and
the Dodgers turn around and decide, hey, we're gonna And
that was the ball incident, right where Dave Roberts says
(19:04):
a ball was thrown at him. There's video of it.
Supposedly that got the Dodgers all upped up and wanted
to fight, and they stood up to the bullies that
are the Padres. The Padres kind of baseball bullies. They
want to be tough, they want to have bravado, they
want to play with Latin panash, they want to talk
trash and they want a Cadillac around the basis that
that's the reputation. So for a second straight year, they lose,
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this time in the wild card round to the Cups.
Manny Machada was asked about the season after the game.
Please take a listen to the question as well as
the answer.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I know it just ended, but how do you assess
a season like this? I mean, I mean a type
of question is that?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Dude? My guy? How do I assess the season?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
We just lost?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
How do you think I assessed thee How do you
think I assess it?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know. I was asking you tell me whether
what's a loss?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We lost? How do you assess it's a loss? You're lost?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Come on, I mean you can ask better questions than that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let's call no, you actually can't ask a better question
than that. How how would you assess this season? It
allows Manny to take it anywhere. He was, well, we
just lost, but we had a an unbelievable Oh, we
just like it's a disappointment, it's a success, it's somewhere
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in the middle, it's failure, it's whatever word you want
to describe. It was a perfect question, perfect tone and
of course, we know that Manny is defensive, because well
he's Manny and he did the smiling guy. You can
ask a better question that tell him what the better
question is. Jayceu, you've been doing this a long time.
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What's your reaction to the question. I know your reaction
to the answer. Not a Manny guy. Manny's seen as
a leader now with the Padres. I have lots of
Padres fans like, oh, Manny's he's so much better. He's
a leader, he's whatever. Maybe he is, but forget about
We'll get to the other discussion, which is what's the
media's purpose in being there? Did you have an issue
with the question?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, the loss is baked into the question. The loss
is baked in now that you've lost and your season
is over, that's the implication. How do you assess the
season now? And it was actually a question to give
to give many a chance to go totally positive, and
Manny went the other way.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yep, yep, yeah, go ahead, Sammy.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I it was a fair, totally fair question. I think,
like they just lost the game. He's emotional and he's
not even he's like he can't go big picture looking
at the season. He's looking at this three game series
that they're now out in the wild card round, and
he's upset. It's like the season was just steps to
get to where we wanted to start the next set
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of steps to get to the World Series. And right there,
you know, he gets snippy. He can probably gotta handle
that a little better, but he's like he can't go
big picture in his brain when he's so wrapped up
in the moment they just lost and now they're out
of the playoffs. Just giving him a little bit of
room there too explain why he answered that way, but
it was a totally fair How.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Old is Manny Machado, that's your question, han Yah, he's
in his thirties. I don't know if he's made thirty
three thirty three that's mid thirties, early mid thirties. How
long has he been playing Major League Baseball? Fourteen years?
How many times he been in the playoffs. I'm gonna
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go with six. I guess six would be my guess
without looking it up. So he's gone through this six times.
He's a veteran, he's a leader. I understand the emotions
are hot. That's this is the time to get the interview.
They flew home after the game. They scattered. They're in Cabo, right,
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so this is part of the job. Is you lose
a game, you make thirty five million dollars. You can
answer some questions like how would you assess the season?
He's not a child, right, he doesn't. He's not Shador Sanders,
who hasn't played a full season in the NFL. He's
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played fourteen years in Major League Baseball. He's played for
one of the most storied franchises, two of the most
He's played for one of the most story franchises in
Major League baseball. Right, he's been an All Star in baseball.
This is not his first rodeo. Somebody just asked him,
how would you assess the season? Take it however you
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want to take it. You can't do that. That's your failure,
not the interview and not the interviewer. Stop this and look,
there's a portion of it which is on all of
us because because we've we've done this to where the
media is always bad. There's nothing, there's zero wrong with
the question. Nothing. It is a perfectly open ended, neutral,
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correctly asked question where he addressed him, and he started,
do you have to start with the statement, now the
season's over. I probably it's a it's as you said, Jason,
it's a statement of fact. Now the season's over. I
just says the season. I mean, the only thing I
would change you could be the wording. How would you
characterize the season. But again there's that's that's we're just
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moving around. We're just moving around words. We're not doing
anything special, changing anything at all. But this this media
defiance thing, and you get other people who are like
support it, like no, no, this is where Manny is wrong.
This is where the media is right. Guy just asked
for it. What do you think of the season, It's
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all he asked you taking it wherever you want to
take it, And as you said, Jason, you can take
it positively. Hey, I get it. We just lost our
last game in the Cups. They're really good, We're better
than we played. I'm really disappointed how it ended. But
I gotta tell you another year, the padres in the playoffs.
We're going to get there. And this was a great year.
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May not had a great ending, but a great year
or man, it's just disappointing. Here we are again. We
feel like we're the best team. We feel like we're
the best team and we came up short.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean this came up earlier in the week because
remember Ben Johnson on Sunday said something again that he
regretted and he had to walk back and apologize. Ben
Johnson hasn't worn this as a first year head coach.
You are in your second year as a head coach.
Manny Machado makes forty million dollars a year as a
part of that salary to you and Ben Johnson man Matchado.
(25:49):
As a part of that salary, you are being paid
to have these skill set to have a level head
in this moment. I'm guessing you have not loved every
question after a loss that you've ever gotten, but you
have the professionalism because you're paid to have that skill set.
It's not the reporter's fault that you lost.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
No again, and it's all you're asking for is for
somebody to be fair, right, somebody to be fair. I'll
tell you the the only two there's only two things
three that I had an issue with last year, and like, look,
there's people tweeting and writing stories and whatever, like I
(26:32):
can't control, and none of this can you control. But
you know I allowed complete and total access to people
that asked for complete and total access to write a story.
I didn't say, aything, I don't say. I didn't say,
don't say anything to nobody about nothing, but none of that,
None of that, Okay. So I had a couple of
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writers follow us around and one guy wrote a story
which again I could it felt like he did backflips
to try and make it more neutral because we knew
each other, we had a relationship. But in his effort
to make it more neutral and provide both sides of
the story, he actually puts some Now, there was some
(27:17):
negative in there, but there was just things that didn't
there was no reason to write about it, and it
took away from what he told me he found right,
Like his whole premise was when he told me when
he walked away, was I thought it was gonna come
up here and it was gonna be a complete clown show.
And I walked away going, it's just a program that
doesn't is too young and doesn't have good enough talent,
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but is actually kind of really cool to be around.
Like that was what he told me. And then when
you read the story, like, well, that's not what you
put on paper, you know, he didn't. And so my
issue with him though, was in a kind of a
mischaracterization of an event in which I was like, we
were both there for why would you characterize it that way?
(28:00):
And so I just picked up the phone and called him,
and there's I thought there was no negative there. I
had a writer, a student newspaper writer last year when
Oklahoma State was struggling at the end of the year,
wrote an article that said, well, at least they didn't
hire me because we're struggling. I was like, So I
called him, and I was just And the only reason
(28:23):
I knew it existed was because my daughters both go
to school there and they happened to be a day
where they happened to pick up both look at the
paper and they're both like, Dad, why are they writing
an article about you? You don't coach here? And I
was like, I don't know. And so, you know, I
called the guy who was a young who was a
younger dude, and I was just like, did I do
something wrong? Was there somebody did my when we were
(28:45):
parents in school there, and I, you know, didn't buy
them a beer? Or was I rude to somebody? Like
to tell me? It's like why would you ask that?
I was like, well, cause, why would Why am I
catching strays when you don't know anything about my situation?
And oh yeah, by the way, when we played you,
we're down two at the half, we got beat Did
we look like a well coached team? Yes? Well, so
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why is this even a part of your purview? My
point is I thought both were unfair, but I also
didn't say they're unfair and voice it in the moment
and make us think about it. I've had people ask
questions and again, part of the power you have when
you're the person being interviewed, even as an interviewer. It
frustrates me, but the truth is that they're allowed to
(29:29):
say whatever they want. You ever have an interview or
you Politics is a perfect example, because Jay Stu, I
know you are like me. We do like watching politics.
But you'll like post debate or something will happen and
they'll they'll ask one of these what do they call it?
When you're like a super supporter of somebody running for president?
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You're there, what's the word?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Not a mega donor? When you're that's it? Thank you,
I though you're a surrogate.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Wow, good job, Isaac. I wouldn't come up with that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's it's a very political TV where like they have.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
That I follow politics very closely.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, so there you go. So you know what, like
a circuit is the correct word. So they have one
of the circuit's on there, and you'll ask him a
question about healthcare and they'll go on to some they'll
just take it and not answer that question and then
take it wherever they want, Like you're allowed to do that.
It's annoying when you're asking the questions, but you're I'm
powerless over it because if I interrupt you, now I'm rude, right,
(30:28):
But if I allow you to, you can take the
interview where you want. So the first thing that Manny
and Manny should know this. He's been doing it long
enough where if you ask him a question you don't
like it, you can go off on any tangent, Like
if you want to make a point about the umpires,
there's your moment. If you want to make a point
about hey, we're playing on the road in Chicago instead
of playing at home in San Diego, or it's unfair
that there's three games in Chicago. We have airplanes these days,
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we don't have to have three games in one day.
You can do that if you want to say if
you want to say anything you want to say, you
can say it. But instead he tries to intimidate and
in and make it out like it was a bad question.
So yes, to answer your question. I don't know as
Jay stew or or or Sam. Yeah, I've been asked
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some questions, but again I understand that the powers within me.
My issue moving into year two is I don't need
to talk as long like nobody. My press conferences are
too long. Ask the question, to answer the question, move on,
ask the question, to answer the question, move on, ask
the question to answer the question, to move on. I'm
trying to layer it and contextualize it so everybody understands.
It's not that deep. It doesn't require that much. But
(31:34):
I you know, this is Manny being manny. This is
the Dodgers being the Dodgers, even if it was a
negative question, which is not. It's really interesting that the
Dodgers here they are I mean Dodgers, sorry Padres here
they are trash talkers here, they are Bravado. Here, they
are Hey, this is how we roll. Then you get
beat again and they they're terrible losers, terrible losers. But
(32:00):
in the world of broadcasting, there ain't nothing wrong with
that question. Zero.
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you heard from Isaac Loewencron with his update at the
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top of the hour, Lamar Jackson, misspractice got a hamstring
ish issue and I mean stands a reason he doesn't
play this weekend, right, so you know, fantasy football wise,
you've got to adjust. But what's this mean? Has there
been a word? This is a bad week for Shador Sanders?
(32:59):
Was it named starter? When they pull Flaco? That was expected?
The miming your answer is not expected and wildly widely
criticized by just about everybody. Just about everybody. And then
then the Ravens, who I think it was last week
(33:21):
Dion was on a podcast saying, Hey, the Ravens want
to draft him, but we we didn't want them. Do
we tell them not to because we want him to play?
Not sit again? Just look up Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson
is a superstar quarterback, absolute superstar quarterback. Right, but Lamar
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Jackson is constantly hurt. All right, This is like a
yearly thing for Lamar that he is. He's hurt. It
doesn't take a ton of research to go pull up
Lamar Jackson and go like, oh wait, okay, so last
year he played all seventeen week before year before sixteen,
(34:07):
but then twelve twelve, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, and then of
course his rookie year he didn't start until the I
want to say, ninth game of the season. So what
does it mean, Well, Ravens are in trouble if they
can't win this game, right, I mean team gets off
to a tough start. Now Houston comes in Houston at
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one and three, and the Ravens they have the Rams
next week, then they have the bye week. I mean,
very likely scenario that you you don't have Lamar the
next two weeks. They sit him so that he's fresh
and rested. But if you start the year one in
five hard not impossible because again, we play more games,
and Cooper Rush has shown the ability to be that
(34:51):
backup that comes in solid, can start play a game,
and he can really he can run. He's not Lamar,
not close, but he can run, he can move. But man,
is that that the Ravens, who I think so many
people thought eventually they'll figure it out. This is one
of those things that happened. I don't think they're gonna
fire John Harpball. I don't for one, not for one second,
(35:14):
do I think they're gonna fire John or Harpball, even
if they have a bad season, even if they missed
the playoffs. He has enough positive equity. But this is
one of those when it rains, it pours, and Derrick
Henry's two big fourth quarter fumbles start, you know, the
collapse and two losses, and then just when you get
to a softer part of your schedule, Lamar Jackson's out
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Let's get to Mark dominic Key joins us in the
Doug Outlet Show on Fox Sports. Trade. Of course, Mark's
former general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. His entire life
in professional football. How much does this dim the hopes
of the Ravens. If Lamar doesn't play these next two weeks,
that will with a one to three start.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Yeah, it's tough, right, I mean, obviously it's a It's
not where you want to see anybody have to and
this division is obviously going through its lowes right now
with the injuries. Actually have the quarterback position. The one
thing you can look at coming out of it is
that they really have a soft schedule after they're buy
you Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets just back to back
(36:12):
to back to back to back. They have Bengals twice
and so there's a lot of victories still there. So
I still think they're going to be a wild card team,
even if they lose these next two games and fall
all the way down to one and five. I still
believe in this team too much. I agree with you,
bar Balls the head coach in twenty twenty six, unless
he doesn't want to coach anymore. There's no way with
the equity he's built that he would be out of there.
But you know, I think they're fortunate that the Bengals
(36:33):
obviously had the catastrophic injury and they're in a division
where they just got to come in second.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, okay, let's get the last night. What was your
reaction to the play calling in overtime from Sean McVay.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Shockingly, you really aggressive, but then you know the kicker
missus a kick and you're like, you're not surprised he
you know, goes for it. So it's it's one of
those ones where you just feel like you already had
every opportunity to win. You have crazy turnovers, they get
the ball, use three time outs to get the ball back,
and then I mean just it was a crazy game
and somehow Shanahan walks out with the victory, and yet
(37:09):
I think the better team lost last night. And so
you know, that's just the way the ball bounces. I mean,
it's a random fumble in a bad spot, or like
you said, maybe a difficult decision in terms of a
fourth down and not making it. But I thought the
Rams would win the game walking into it. Obviously it's not.
But I don't worry about the Rams and what I
(37:30):
think they're going to be for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Mac Jones look backups for one game oftentimes they're really good,
and then you know they come back down to earth.
What are your thoughts on mac Jones and what our
expectations can be moving forward.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Yeah, well, I think with mac Jones, I mean anytime
a guy can go throw for three hundred yards, I
think that the number one indicator is this when a
quote coach grabs a younger quarterback Max got obviously experience,
but a younger quarterback, and he lets him throw it
forty times a game, which they've basically done with Nac
Jones every game's starter, right, He's thrown had almost forty
(38:08):
attempts in every game, all three games he's played. That
shows you they have a ton of confidence him, understanding
the system and be able to trust him, like, Okay,
we don't have to turn around and get to our running
back because we're not sure because we've seen so many
times a quarterback who might beginning the game goes Caroll
to throw it twenty two times and we're going to
try to run. They believe in Nac Jones, and I
always thought that he was a good fit for the
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four nine ers, even when they took Trey Lance. In
my mind and I was on radio saying it, I
was like, I really think They'll take Jones because I
just feel like Shanahan will connect with him, and I
have a feeling John Lynch convinced him to go the
other direction. Now they get Jones, and he stepped in
here and played phenomenal. And I think you can say
with pretty good confidence when you've got a guy completing
sixty six sixty seven percent of his passes, still throwing
(38:51):
the ball down the field at least it's over seven
yards in an attempt, and you know, just one time to
one interception. If I'm not mistaken, he's he's doing everything
you could ask and it's you know, kept the San
Francisco four hours absolutely in the Hunt.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Doug Otlebs Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic
is our guest, of course, general manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, as well as working his way up through
the food chain and now of course joins us on
a weekly basis here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let let's let's hang around a little bit, Schadoor Sanders,
(39:24):
he's the backup or third string quarterback whatever. As a
quarterback change was made, and I guess he was responding
to Rex Ryan, but he was miming his Dad tweets
that he likes it. Uh, you've been a general manager
in the league. What was your reaction when you saw
his locker side interview?
Speaker 8 (39:50):
A little bit disappointing, you know, I think it's the same.
It's it's kind of that one where you're you know,
it's Dylan Gabriel's chance. Uh, you know, it's it's his
opportunity to finally uh have the clipboard. It makes total sense.
It's time for that, right, It's time for this to
get to that point where it's moving on. But I
just didn't like the way that he handles it all, just
to feel like, what's the right way to say? You know,
(40:13):
you just feel like he's still just too mature, and
it's frustrating to watch, even from the sideline. And I'm
sure and within the building it's a it's just again
it's maturity level that you feel like you think he's
going to have, and then he does little things that
make you remind you that that's probably why he dropped.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's all making sense to so
so many people, Right, it's all making sense to to
just so many people. Mark aj Brown, you know, sends
out a tweet and apologize for the tweet. The Eagles
are still winning. They won a Super Bowl despite the
(40:52):
fact he was a malcontent. I've seen people go over
the film and say, yeah, I know he got nine targets,
but they weren't nine good targets. What's the reality to
your thoughts on the Eagles and their aj Brown situation.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Yeah, I mean, any day's just got Look if they're
not even good targets, you're still getting targeted. I mean,
last three games, he's averaging nine targets a game. There's
a lot of receivers in the NFL that would love
and live to have that. And maybe they're not great targets,
but they're still you know, the focus is trying to
maybe get them the ball. You know, any great player
is going to want to make plays. Any great player
is going to want to be part of being successful
(41:25):
or helping the team, you know, show off what they
can be. And I think obviously with the Philadelphia Eagles
at four and oh it's a subtle spot, but this
is where like the Saquon Barclays of the world can
really make an impact, even with the more of a
guy that's even more of a veteran. But I understand,
like you want to have a bigger impact on the games.
But the other thing is we need to have you
out there for the games, and so you take what
you can get. It's again, it's different if they were
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targeting two or three times four times a game and
there's frustration building up. But winning will help calm this
all down. If they keep doing that, it'll be water
under the bridge.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
The Colts lose to the Rams on Sunday, but part
of it was just a crazy fumble and series events
and and look, two of their three wins are over
the bottom of the NFL Dolphins and Titans. But did
be the Broncos and could have been the Rams to
get the Raiders to come in kind of limping in.
Then the Cardinals at home, so he got some winnable
(42:17):
games before they head on the road to take on
the Chargers, Steelers, and Chiefs. How real is this cold start?
Speaker 8 (42:26):
I think it's real, and I think it speaks more.
Everything'll be like, well, what Tron, Why wasn't Daniel Jones
successful in the Giants? It was the offensive line was bad.
It's still not great at the Giants. Since we see
Jackson Dark trying to survive and Russell Wilson didn't. And
I think that offensive line, you know, it's so easy
to overlook it. You know, think about draft day when
your team that you love drafts offensive lineman. You know,
(42:48):
a lot of times you're like, oh, great, we took
a guard first round, like, and then the other team
that's right next to you is like, got the brand
new running back of the new receiver, the sexuy tight end,
and they're like yeah, and You're like, I got a guard.
But in the end, the fact that I think because
the Colts offensive line is so much better than people realize,
and I think that's the biggest piece of the puzzle
of the cults. And so I think it's real because
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I think Daniel Jones has confidence and understanding of what
he's asked to do in the system. But again, it
goes more to the offensive line. And this is kind
of the first time that they've all been out out there.
And you know, there's a guy named Tanne Bordelini who's
the starting center, who was drafted in fourth round last
year because Ryan Kelly was there, he didn't get to play,
but he's played in flashes and I watched his tape.
But then Matt Conclaves was the third round pick same year.
(43:32):
He kicked right into guard. And so you've got Quentin
Nelson's who looks really good right now, really athletic and smooth.
It's the offensive line. It's Tyler Warren. If you watch
his tape, he is a beast across the board. And
you got a quarterback that they trust. And I think
that's everything he could ask. So I think it's a
real thing. I don't think it's just a flashing fan
on who they played. I think the culture for real
and I can't I'll be honest, I'm surprised I'm saying it,
(43:54):
but it's true.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, it really is amazing, right, it's amazing. On how
uh quickly you feel like they have I don't know,
I want to say, flip this thing, but they've they've
changed this thing for the better. Whereas you felt like
the staff was gonna be turned over. Then they go
and get Daniel Jones and like, no way that works,
and sure enough it again, so far, so far has worked,
(44:19):
so Baker. They lose last week to Philly, but they're
they're three and one. They're going to take on Seattle
and Donold's got his team at three and one. There
are a lot of questions about Sam donald coming out
of Minnesota because everyone thinks you got a great quarterback, whisper,
you got a lot of talent. What are your thoughts
on Sam donald so far? You're one in Seattle.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
Yeah, I think John Schneider was right and he bought
the contract that was very club friendly, and I think
he's found the right guy. And now, yeah, we've got
to play down the stretch and postseason, all those things
that you know, such a disaster sadly for Sam at
the end of last year. But again, you know, little
indicators that you go to are you know, anytime a
(45:00):
quarterback's you know, throwing the ball a lot over that
seventy percent completion rate. But also the difference is when
you're completing seventy percent, but his yards per tempt are
over nine yards. So that's a that's a lethal combination
that's working for them. And so that's where you like
Sam Donaldson. He's willing to be aggressive with the ball
and push the ball down the field and you've seen
him do that, and you know when he wants to
easy throw, maybe it's a J. Barner or somebody you know,
(45:22):
one of the backs, but he is pushing the ball
down the field and you like to see that from him,
and so I feel really impressed by what he's been
able to accomplish. And now you look at the Seattle
Seahawks and you know they're in a spot, you know,
with a very hard division and might be quite frankly,
might be the toughest division in football, which if you
(45:43):
told me to be in the season, that's say the
NFC West was going to be the toughest division football.
And then maybe I do believe that Arizona's still better,
but certainly right now that looks like it and Seattle
held their own.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, it's really kind of amazing what's done. I look,
the Raiders weren't expected to be good, but aren't we
seeing the ceiling of Gino Smith, It's like everybody loved
the story. He's better than we thought. People thought he
was washed up. But like I just I don't feel
I'm not surprised when he throws picks. I'm not. I'm
(46:16):
just not by it. Then he got the Ashton genty thing,
where now of a sudden he looks like the College
Ashton gent It's only a couple of games, and people
were saying it's because you know of his uh Michael
myersh stance in the backfield. But the Raiders issue is
still on offense at least. Gino's not the quarterback of
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the future, is he. No?
Speaker 8 (46:38):
I don't think he is. And I think that they
were hoping he'd be the quarterback for the next year
or two while they've you know, whether poor O'Connell. Anytime
an opportunity comes up, another bro bone breaks in his body.
And so now you know, can they trash they draft?
You know, they trade real draft collateral for you know,
can you ticket? And then yet you know, I think
they'll play the season with Gino and then I think
(46:58):
you're going to see this team of where they're going
to finish up being the market for drafting the quarterback
in the first round easily. And I think that's where
they're headed. And you know, when you look at Gena Smith, yes,
they are parts where I watch them like that that's actually
better than I thought or expected. But I think the
Ashton Genty thing along with Gino is part of that
offensive line in front of him is a bad unit.
Right now. They've got guys in my personal opinion that
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are out of position. Jackson powers. Johnson should not be
a guard, he should be a center. DJ Glaize is
not playing well at right tackle. They don't have a
ton of options now that they've got injuries as well.
But I just feel like we talked about the Colts
and how important that element is. I think the Raiders
are the exact opposite right now, where that line is
not playing at all to the level, and now they've
lost their left tackle as well, So this is a
really bad time for the Raiders. Stands.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Great stuff as always, man, listen, enjoy the weekend. You
always bring the great insight and analysis. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
As always, thanks for having me on, Buddy.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I need to check in with Jason Stewart. Jason, how
are you on your Dodgers prep for the Phillies all
my Dodgers prep? Like, just emotionally, where are you on
on the series with the Phillies?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Phillies and three? Why do you do that Phillies in three?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So the Dodger I'm gonna give you an example, Okay, okay.
Show Hao Tani went into the final weekend of the
regular season needing an RBI for RBA one hundred. We're
talking about show Heo Tani with fifty plus home runs.
Kyle Schwarber, who was the lead offf man for the Phillies,
his counterpart, had one hundred and thirty six RBI on
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the season. So just if you're looking for a contrast,
the seven eight nine hitters of the Phillies get on
base for Kyle Schwarber. The Dodgers one of their achilles
heel is seven eight nine. We have a catcher I
think with a lifetime average of one. So that's just
one of the reasons they'll likely lose the series.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Okay, how do you feel about show Hey getting the start? Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I love it. I love watching that guy. P This
is the I hate predictions, but I just want to
show you where my instincts are. Showhey goes an amazing
five innings and they somehow find a way to lose
it with the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I knew that prediction was Kevin
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great show for you here on the DG Show, as
once again Jay stew continues to just swim in the
money from his picks, which are really the fade of
another pick, and he appears to be a genius. We
got a lot to get to Major League Baseball's DS's
that's the Divisional series are set. Couldn't get any better
(00:44):
with Cubs and Brewers, Yankees takedown the Red Sox. I'd
like to point out all my predictions for who would
win these series that I had any idea about. I
didn't really know Detroit and Cleveland, although my guest was
Detroit would win because they were better all season long.
But anyway, my predictions came, came, came correct, and now
we got we got some big ones. Right, Dodgers, Phills
(01:08):
and Cubs Brewers the Craig Council Series, if you will.
And then you know, in the American League, the Yankees
go take on the Mariners, is that right? The Yankees
take on the Mariners. Yankees take on the Blue Jays,
and then the Mariners get a chance to play Detroit, right,
(01:30):
And you know last time the Mariners were this good,
the Yankees took them down. How many gud they win?
Like one hundred and something games, and that was like,
I don't know if it's like twenty five years ago.
So we got some Major League Baseball to get to.
But I want to start with the National Football League
because a couple things came predictably true last night with
the Niners holding on to take down the Rams. I
(01:52):
do want to talk about punching out of football, which
it's interesting the things that happened last night we talked
about on this show. Jay Stu predicted two things. Early
in the week. He's like, I think they're going to
take punching a football out of football for next year,
and I disagreed, but he did bring up punching out
of football and then he said, hey, my my picks
(02:14):
every week are whatever Cowherd loves, I'm doing the opposite.
So Jay sue, heck of a night for you, because
the punch out of Caroen Williams touchdown ends up being
the being the difference, and as predicted, colin'sert, Callen Cowhert's
pick was what was wrong?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He has he does his Blazing five, but there's always
a Thursday night game. So sometimes he'll be like, I
have a favorite game this week, and I can't put
it under my Blazing five. But if I could, I
would have put the game last night in there. So
that was that was the prompt to me, as you
put it to fade the bet, I'm five and zero
on games that Cowherd says are his favorite play of
(02:52):
the week.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thank you Colin, Yeah, thank you, thank you Colin. That
that come from one Jason Stewart. Right, Let's get to
the game itself. Because you had you had Mac Jones.
What was he wearing? What what was he What was
the idea behind that? That was terrible? That was it
(03:17):
was like a bad Halloween costume where it was a
suit black on one side, red on the other team Colors. Sure,
but that had somebody he had to lose a bet
or have it did feel like there's some designer. Throw
this on for your walk in. It'll be cool. Then
he ends up winning the game. Now he's at a
(03:38):
press conference wearing the same ugly suit. It was like
a two face suit. Maybe there's an inside joke, but
nobody asked him about it. That was bad. Here's Sean
McVay taking ownership over the play call in the last play.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a bad call.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's a bad call by me. Thought about maybe trying
to draw him off sides. I took one, they took
the other, and it was a poor decision by me
right there. But you know, you give the Niners credit.
They made enough places to be able to win the
football game. We had plenty of chances throughout this game.
You know, we stayed in it. We fought, we battled.
But I'm pretty sick right now. I'm sick of the
spot that I put our group in to end the game.
(04:14):
But hey, these are the tough beats that you got
to be able to learn from and move forward. And
that's what we're going to.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Do, Isilo. What did you think of that last call
the fourth and one?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I was, I was, I was stunned. So often in
the NFL we'll see fifty to fifty go forward on
fourth down or whatever, and I thought to go forward
on fourth down there was absolutely the right thing to do.
But I'm shocked in how many situations they do a
run straight up the middle to a stacked defensive front.
(04:47):
Because what did the forty nine ers do after the
Kyron Williams fumble at the end of regulation. I understand
you want to be conservative, you don't want to throw it,
but they ran three times up up the middle, right
into a stacked defense, and the Rams didn't learn the
lesson for that. I have no problem running the ball.
I just have a problem running it right into the
strength of the defense. Well, who's your best player, Matthew Stafford?
(05:11):
Why would you pook and Nakua DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There was It's really interesting because Sean McVay is obviously
when he's hired as youngest coach in the league, and
and it's it's crazy how much sex success he's had.
And and this.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Is when you think about it, huh nothing, both coaches. No, no, no,
you just misspoke success And I made a I made
a witty retort.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Sorry, Okay, no, but I mean he's had a remarkable
amount of success at a very young age and now
he's been in the league for as the head coach
for like a decade, like it's you know, been into
super bowls, won one, and you know, last year they
were trending away where I thought, if the weather would
have been at least reasonable, like kind of could have
beaten the Eagles last year out And maybe I'm crazy,
(05:58):
but I think they could have won that game. Nonetheless, Nonetheless,
like offensive play calling, creativity is what he does best.
They won a Super Bowl essentially having the last drive
with one player, you know, a wide receiver who they
in Cooper Cup, just constantly getting open. Now you have
(06:19):
Pooka Naka, like, what are we doing there?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
And Doug that's a great point because on that drive
in the Super Bowl, they had the same situation. They
had a fourth down and they ran Cooper Cup on
an end around.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, So you know, look, I understand that, I truly
understand that. When you're over there and you're calling plays,
you know, who's going to think they're going to run
it again? Right like none of us thought they would.
But and you don't have a quarterback it's not like
(06:52):
you have a run pass option on a quarterback like
Matt Stafford is. He's not. He's he's still pretty mobile
back there, but like with his back with his A
there ain't no way that he's gonna run for it.
But I was stunned at the play calling, especially the
way that the game is officiated, where it really becomes
pro offense when it comes to wide receivers of getting open.
(07:14):
You know, they call holding, they call past interference, they
call legal hands, they call all these all this different stuff.
I just I was really surprised. Now, truth be told,
I don't think it. It may matter at the end
of the year. It may not in that they'll probably
both be playoff teams. I could be wrong, but I
(07:34):
was stunned at a young coach who felt like an
old coach with the just run the damn ball, only
three things can happen when you throw it sort of mentality,
and they end up losing a game because of it.
Just really really surprised by it, really surprised by it. Sam.
You just Sam Kensell just sent me a text with
(07:55):
the two face suit, right, That's that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
My favorite two face Tommy Jones from the nineties, Tommy
Lee Jones. Yeah, it's it's it's and there's even I'm
seeing even like a cartoon of Mac Jones's head on
two faces body, So it's it's. You know, I don't
know guys in pros. Pro athletes make weird wardrobe choices
that are like people tell them they're ahead of the game,
and we all maybe laugh at them, but they are
(08:19):
laughing all the way to you know whatever the bank.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I guess, muh, I just I look at this and
I I think to myself, Okay, I think to myself,
this is a game in where it's the Rams, Like
you gotta be kicking yourself. You get the Niners. And granted,
(08:43):
as we said, and so many of the things we
talked about this week all culminated last night at SOFI. Right,
so many of the things culminated it so Fi. I
talked yesterday about how it would be a Niner home game.
Was that a Niner home game? Is that It's one
of the more amazing things ever, is that the Chargers
constantly get told about how they play only road games
(09:05):
when they're playing at home, and that game every year
the Niners, I understand anything like it, Go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I was just gonna say, so, you know, I was
at the Rams hosting the Colts last Sunday, and it
was harder to tell there were a lot of Colts
fans there, but obviously they share blue and even Rams
back in the day used to be blue and white
as their color scheme. But you could definitely tell last night.
I mean, it felt like the Rams were well overpowering
the Colts fans on Sunday, but this time it felt
like a lot more kind of burgundy in there. Like
(09:34):
there were so many Niners fans they it seemed like
they were outnumbering the Rams fans.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It does you think you mean last.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Week or no, no, no, yesterday, Niners fans are out
numbering Rams fans. I think obviously Niners fans were traveling.
They took the day off of work, and then like
Rams fans had to, you know, get out of work,
get there as fast as they could, you know, and
maybe they sold their tickets because Thursday night, maybe they
just couldn't couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But somebody we talked about punching out the ball that
happened at the end of regulation as a game changing
play and we talked about Colherd, we talked about the
home crowd, and then there's just this actually goes back
to something that Jay Stewart, I'm gonna give you credit again,
just thought about this. Do you remember we were talking
about how you hate prediction radio and you hate we
all hate predicting like records, right, like, oh, that's gonna
(10:24):
be a big game because you don't know who's going
to be playing, especially in the NFL. That was like
a week long discussion that we had. I mean, here's
a perfect example. The the Rams get a beaten up
Niners team that starts their backup quarterback. Several other key
backups are playing, and I mean the number was obviously
bloated to I think eight and a half, maybe even
(10:44):
eight it maybe what came down to eight at kickoff.
So it's not just that you lost a divisional game.
It's not just the lost divisional game at home. It's
not just the lost divisional game at home that I mean,
you're right there on fourth down. You can kick, and
you can kick the ball. You don't have to go.
There's no rule says you have to go for when
(11:05):
you're down three in overtime? Is there a rule. I
haven't seen that rule of there's one. But then when
you factor in the opportunity you had to beat the
Niners when the Niners aren't whole this early in the season,
it feels like a loss in a half. And you
have the kind of half bye week here as well, right,
you have the half bye week as well. So I
(11:27):
look at this thing and I'm just I'm telling you,
I thought that loss was devastating for the Rams. Obviously,
now the mac Jones has swagger. The issue I would
have with people hopping on the mac Jones bandwagon where
Kyle Shanahan has always really wanted to coach mac Jones,
supposedly wanted to draft mac Jones when they trade up
(11:50):
and drafted Trey Lance instead. But I would be cautious
of the mac Jones fandom only from this standpoint. How
many times have we seen a backup come in and
win a game and you're like, that guy's the guy,
and then the more games they play, suddenly you realize
why they were backup. I mean, I could use so
(12:14):
many instances. I mean Joe Flacco obviously a couple of
years ago with the Browns getting them to the playoffs,
and he's been fine, but he's not that guy in
a consistent basis. And we could kind of go through
the league and talk about backup quarterbacks and how they
win a game, but then the next week they come out,
you have that expectation they'll be the same guy, and
they're just simply not. Here's Kyle Shanahan talking about Matt
John's performance.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
He played his ass off man was unbelievable in the
first half, got banged up a little bit there in
the second half and battled through it and protected the ball,
going against that defense and throwing the ball that many
times and not having a turnover and protecting them like
you did. I can't send up good things about Mack.
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way tire buying should be. So I've never well, when
I say I've never taken a broadcasting class, I've never
actually taken a broadcasting class. I took one course in
junior college, so Notre Dame for a year, went to
Golden West College in Hunting the Beach, California for a year,
(13:50):
and then went to Oakland State for three years. I've
taken one technical technically, it's a journalism class in my
life in schools Now, yes, there's the School of Hard Nacts,
if you will, and there's there's also there's a kind
of another layer to it, if you will, in that
when I was the ESPN. We'll get to this. They
(14:10):
they did train people on interviewing if you were on air,
and I'll get to that in a moment. So I've
never taken a journalism class. And yet I would say again,
this is this is my own ego. I think like
(14:31):
Dan Patrick as somebody have always emulated as an interviewer.
I do like that Jim Rome oftentimes would ask hard questions.
I just didn't like the formula by which he came
upon asking those those questions and the way in which
he asked them. But I do think that, you know,
like Romie would have really good interviews back in the day.
(14:52):
There there's some others, but those are the two in
terms of sports radio that I look up to. I'm
just gonna be honest, I put myself in in their
class with anybody. I have plenty of plenty of interviews
I can play for where I got good stuff out
of good people. And of course we have the All
Ball podcast, which is all interview, long form and whatever.
(15:13):
And I'm a curious person. I like to ask questions
that I don't know the answer to. That's a little
bit why I kind of side with the Dan Patrick style.
But I also have kind of cleaned up a lot
of a lot of my questions from way way earlier
in my career because there's a guy at ESPN named
John Sawatsky. He's a Canadian journalist, and he came up
(15:37):
with kind of like the Sawatsky method for interviewing. And
when I was at ESPN, I was like probably the
second year he was. He was employed as a like
a consultant but like I might've been a full time
consultant and we would have like a two day course
on interviewing, and you can kind of go back and
it would usually be I think it was like late summer, know,
(16:00):
and late summer you'd have in a room. You'd have Dan, Mike,
and Mike how Heard, myself and I sometimes I think
they staggered it. So we weren't all off the air
one day, but it felt like we were all off
the air one day, Like I knew Mike and Mike
was was in there when we did it. And his
general belief was that some of the people you think
(16:24):
are the best interviewers are actually the worst, and he
did it did feel like he picked on Larry King
a little bit, but rightfully so when you listen to
the actual questions that Larry King asked. One of the
examples is, you know, he said avoid a trigger word,
because someone you interview will react to the trigger word.
(16:48):
So if you listen, Larry King used to ask people
or you shot by what you saw and then sometimes
they would get the the the proper response. It's like
it's it's almost implanted a word into your brain, and
so sometimes people would react to the word. No, I wasn't.
I wasn't shocked, but what I saw Larry or yes, Larry,
(17:09):
I was shocked by what I was shocked before I
saw Larry. That's like, that's what he he wants you
to say that word, So he says that word in
the question when the reality is you got to let
somebody use their own vocabulary and use their own description.
So the proper way of asking a question is what
(17:30):
was your reaction to what you saw? Open? And it's neutral, Who?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
When?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Why? How? It's not a double header. You know when
people ask two questions. They do that a lot of
times at the White House, some because they don't think
they'll get called on again. But still it's terrible questioning,
terrible line of question. No, yes, knows open in a
neutral no trigger words, no double headers. You know, it's all.
(17:59):
There's also that don't assume. And then the other one
is go in chronological order, right, like you don't ask
I don't ask Jason Stewart if I'm interviewing Jason Stewart
about Game two of the Dodgers game Dodgers series, and
then go, hey, what about in August when the Dodgers
were scuffling. What'd you think is show? Hey, then like
(18:20):
your your brain doesn't work that way. There's a starting
point at any point, and the whole path has to
work in chronological order. So last night the Cubs take
down the Padres, and I mean, the last call of
the game was a terrible call. But the Padres are
a team that This is the second straight year where
(18:44):
you feel like the Padres have a great shot to
steal one on the road. Remember last year they're up
two games to one and the best of five series
against the La Dodgers. Dodgers are scuffling. Jay s Douw
has already decided that everybody's going to be fired, and
the Dodgers turn around and decide, hey, we're gonna And
that was the ball incident, right where Dave Roberts says
(19:04):
a ball was thrown at him. There's video of it.
Supposedly that got the Dodgers all upped up and wanted
to fight, and they stood up to the bullies that
are the Padres. The Padres kind of baseball bullies. They
want to be tough, they want to have bravado, they
want to play with Latin panash, they want to talk
trash and they want a Cadillac around the basis that
that's the reputation. So for a second straight year, they lose,
(19:26):
this time in the wild card round to the Cups.
Manny Machada was asked about the season after the game.
Please take a listen to the question as well as
the answer.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I know it just ended, but how do you assess
a season like this? I mean, I mean a type
of question is that?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Dude? My guy? How do I assess the season?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
We just lost?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
How do you think I assessed thee How do you
think I assess it?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know. I was asking you tell me whether
what's a loss?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We lost? How do you assess it's a loss? You're lost?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Come on, I mean you can ask better questions than that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let's call no, you actually can't ask a better question
than that. How how would you assess this season? It
allows Manny to take it anywhere. He was, well, we
just lost, but we had a an unbelievable Oh, we
just like it's a disappointment, it's a success, it's somewhere
(20:27):
in the middle, it's failure, it's whatever word you want
to describe. It was a perfect question, perfect tone and
of course, we know that Manny is defensive, because well
he's Manny and he did the smiling guy. You can
ask a better question that tell him what the better
question is. Jayceu, you've been doing this a long time.
(20:48):
What's your reaction to the question. I know your reaction
to the answer. Not a Manny guy. Manny's seen as
a leader now with the Padres. I have lots of
Padres fans like, oh, Manny's he's so much better. He's
a leader, he's whatever. Maybe he is, but forget about
We'll get to the other discussion, which is what's the
media's purpose in being there? Did you have an issue
with the question?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, the loss is baked into the question. The loss
is baked in now that you've lost and your season
is over, that's the implication. How do you assess the
season now? And it was actually a question to give
to give many a chance to go totally positive, and
Manny went the other way.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yep, yep, yeah, go ahead, Sammy.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I it was a fair, totally fair question. I think,
like they just lost the game. He's emotional and he's
not even he's like he can't go big picture looking
at the season. He's looking at this three game series
that they're now out in the wild card round, and
he's upset. It's like the season was just steps to
get to where we wanted to start the next set
(21:57):
of steps to get to the World Series. And right there,
you know, he gets snippy. He can probably gotta handle
that a little better, but he's like he can't go
big picture in his brain when he's so wrapped up
in the moment they just lost and now they're out
of the playoffs. Just giving him a little bit of
room there too explain why he answered that way, but
it was a totally fair How.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Old is Manny Machado, that's your question, han Yah, he's
in his thirties. I don't know if he's made thirty
three thirty three that's mid thirties, early mid thirties. How
long has he been playing Major League Baseball? Fourteen years?
How many times he been in the playoffs. I'm gonna
(22:40):
go with six. I guess six would be my guess
without looking it up. So he's gone through this six times.
He's a veteran, he's a leader. I understand the emotions
are hot. That's this is the time to get the interview.
They flew home after the game. They scattered. They're in Cabo, right,
(23:02):
so this is part of the job. Is you lose
a game, you make thirty five million dollars. You can
answer some questions like how would you assess the season?
He's not a child, right, he doesn't. He's not Shador Sanders,
who hasn't played a full season in the NFL. He's
(23:25):
played fourteen years in Major League Baseball. He's played for
one of the most storied franchises, two of the most
He's played for one of the most story franchises in
Major League baseball. Right, he's been an All Star in baseball.
This is not his first rodeo. Somebody just asked him,
how would you assess the season? Take it however you
(23:46):
want to take it. You can't do that. That's your failure,
not the interview and not the interviewer. Stop this and look,
there's a portion of it which is on all of
us because because we've we've done this to where the
media is always bad. There's nothing, there's zero wrong with
the question. Nothing. It is a perfectly open ended, neutral,
(24:08):
correctly asked question where he addressed him, and he started,
do you have to start with the statement, now the
season's over. I probably it's a it's as you said, Jason,
it's a statement of fact. Now the season's over. I
just says the season. I mean, the only thing I
would change you could be the wording. How would you
characterize the season. But again there's that's that's we're just
(24:32):
moving around. We're just moving around words. We're not doing
anything special, changing anything at all. But this this media
defiance thing, and you get other people who are like
support it, like no, no, this is where Manny is wrong.
This is where the media is right. Guy just asked
for it. What do you think of the season, It's
(24:53):
all he asked you taking it wherever you want to
take it, And as you said, Jason, you can take
it positively. Hey, I get it. We just lost our
last game in the Cups. They're really good, We're better
than we played. I'm really disappointed how it ended. But
I gotta tell you another year, the padres in the playoffs.
We're going to get there. And this was a great year.
(25:14):
May not had a great ending, but a great year
or man, it's just disappointing. Here we are again. We
feel like we're the best team. We feel like we're
the best team and we came up short.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean this came up earlier in the week because
remember Ben Johnson on Sunday said something again that he
regretted and he had to walk back and apologize. Ben
Johnson hasn't worn this as a first year head coach.
You are in your second year as a head coach.
Manny Machado makes forty million dollars a year as a
part of that salary to you and Ben Johnson man Matchado.
(25:49):
As a part of that salary, you are being paid
to have these skill set to have a level head
in this moment. I'm guessing you have not loved every
question after a loss that you've ever gotten, but you
have the professionalism because you're paid to have that skill set.
It's not the reporter's fault that you lost.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
No again, and it's all you're asking for is for
somebody to be fair, right, somebody to be fair. I'll
tell you the the only two there's only two things
three that I had an issue with last year, and like, look,
there's people tweeting and writing stories and whatever, like I
(26:32):
can't control, and none of this can you control. But
you know I allowed complete and total access to people
that asked for complete and total access to write a story.
I didn't say, aything, I don't say. I didn't say,
don't say anything to nobody about nothing, but none of that,
None of that, Okay. So I had a couple of
(26:53):
writers follow us around and one guy wrote a story
which again I could it felt like he did backflips
to try and make it more neutral because we knew
each other, we had a relationship. But in his effort
to make it more neutral and provide both sides of
the story, he actually puts some Now, there was some
(27:17):
negative in there, but there was just things that didn't
there was no reason to write about it, and it
took away from what he told me he found right,
Like his whole premise was when he told me when
he walked away, was I thought it was gonna come
up here and it was gonna be a complete clown show.
And I walked away going, it's just a program that
doesn't is too young and doesn't have good enough talent,
(27:39):
but is actually kind of really cool to be around.
Like that was what he told me. And then when
you read the story, like, well, that's not what you
put on paper, you know, he didn't. And so my
issue with him though, was in a kind of a
mischaracterization of an event in which I was like, we
were both there for why would you characterize it that way?
(28:00):
And so I just picked up the phone and called him,
and there's I thought there was no negative there. I
had a writer, a student newspaper writer last year when
Oklahoma State was struggling at the end of the year,
wrote an article that said, well, at least they didn't
hire me because we're struggling. I was like, So I
called him, and I was just And the only reason
(28:23):
I knew it existed was because my daughters both go
to school there and they happened to be a day
where they happened to pick up both look at the
paper and they're both like, Dad, why are they writing
an article about you? You don't coach here? And I
was like, I don't know. And so, you know, I
called the guy who was a young who was a
younger dude, and I was just like, did I do
something wrong? Was there somebody did my when we were
(28:45):
parents in school there, and I, you know, didn't buy
them a beer? Or was I rude to somebody? Like
to tell me? It's like why would you ask that?
I was like, well, cause, why would Why am I
catching strays when you don't know anything about my situation?
And oh yeah, by the way, when we played you,
we're down two at the half, we got beat Did
we look like a well coached team? Yes? Well, so
(29:06):
why is this even a part of your purview? My
point is I thought both were unfair, but I also
didn't say they're unfair and voice it in the moment
and make us think about it. I've had people ask
questions and again, part of the power you have when
you're the person being interviewed, even as an interviewer. It
frustrates me, but the truth is that they're allowed to
(29:29):
say whatever they want. You ever have an interview or
you Politics is a perfect example, because Jay Stu, I
know you are like me. We do like watching politics.
But you'll like post debate or something will happen and
they'll they'll ask one of these what do they call it?
When you're like a super supporter of somebody running for president?
(29:50):
You're there, what's the word?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Not a mega donor? When you're that's it? Thank you,
I though you're a surrogate.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Wow, good job, Isaac. I wouldn't come up with that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's it's a very political TV where like they have.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
That I follow politics very closely.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, so there you go. So you know what, like
a circuit is the correct word. So they have one
of the circuit's on there, and you'll ask him a
question about healthcare and they'll go on to some they'll
just take it and not answer that question and then
take it wherever they want, Like you're allowed to do that.
It's annoying when you're asking the questions, but you're I'm
powerless over it because if I interrupt you, now I'm rude, right,
(30:28):
But if I allow you to, you can take the
interview where you want. So the first thing that Manny
and Manny should know this. He's been doing it long
enough where if you ask him a question you don't
like it, you can go off on any tangent, Like
if you want to make a point about the umpires,
there's your moment. If you want to make a point
about hey, we're playing on the road in Chicago instead
of playing at home in San Diego, or it's unfair
that there's three games in Chicago. We have airplanes these days,
(30:50):
we don't have to have three games in one day.
You can do that if you want to say if
you want to say anything you want to say, you
can say it. But instead he tries to intimidate and
in and make it out like it was a bad question.
So yes, to answer your question. I don't know as
Jay stew or or or Sam. Yeah, I've been asked
(31:12):
some questions, but again I understand that the powers within me.
My issue moving into year two is I don't need
to talk as long like nobody. My press conferences are
too long. Ask the question, to answer the question, move on,
ask the question, to answer the question, move on, ask
the question to answer the question, to move on. I'm
trying to layer it and contextualize it so everybody understands.
It's not that deep. It doesn't require that much. But
(31:34):
I you know, this is Manny being manny. This is
the Dodgers being the Dodgers, even if it was a
negative question, which is not. It's really interesting that the
Dodgers here they are I mean Dodgers, sorry Padres here
they are trash talkers here, they are Bravado. Here, they
are Hey, this is how we roll. Then you get
beat again and they they're terrible losers, terrible losers. But
(32:00):
in the world of broadcasting, there ain't nothing wrong with
that question. Zero.
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you heard from Isaac Loewencron with his update at the
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top of the hour, Lamar Jackson, misspractice got a hamstring
ish issue and I mean stands a reason he doesn't
play this weekend, right, so you know, fantasy football wise,
you've got to adjust. But what's this mean? Has there
been a word? This is a bad week for Shador Sanders?
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Was it named starter? When they pull Flaco? That was expected?
The miming your answer is not expected and wildly widely
criticized by just about everybody. Just about everybody. And then
then the Ravens, who I think it was last week
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Dion was on a podcast saying, Hey, the Ravens want
to draft him, but we we didn't want them. Do
we tell them not to because we want him to play?
Not sit again? Just look up Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson
is a superstar quarterback, absolute superstar quarterback. Right, but Lamar
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Jackson is constantly hurt. All right, This is like a
yearly thing for Lamar that he is. He's hurt. It
doesn't take a ton of research to go pull up
Lamar Jackson and go like, oh wait, okay, so last
year he played all seventeen week before year before sixteen,
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but then twelve twelve, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, and then of
course his rookie year he didn't start until the I
want to say, ninth game of the season. So what
does it mean, Well, Ravens are in trouble if they
can't win this game, right, I mean team gets off
to a tough start. Now Houston comes in Houston at
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one and three, and the Ravens they have the Rams
next week, then they have the bye week. I mean,
very likely scenario that you you don't have Lamar the
next two weeks. They sit him so that he's fresh
and rested. But if you start the year one in
five hard not impossible because again, we play more games,
and Cooper Rush has shown the ability to be that
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backup that comes in solid, can start play a game,
and he can really he can run. He's not Lamar,
not close, but he can run, he can move. But man,
is that that the Ravens, who I think so many
people thought eventually they'll figure it out. This is one
of those things that happened. I don't think they're gonna
fire John Harpball. I don't for one, not for one second,
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do I think they're gonna fire John or Harpball, even
if they have a bad season, even if they missed
the playoffs. He has enough positive equity. But this is
one of those when it rains, it pours, and Derrick
Henry's two big fourth quarter fumbles start, you know, the
collapse and two losses, and then just when you get
to a softer part of your schedule, Lamar Jackson's out
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Let's get to Mark dominic Key joins us in the
Doug Outlet Show on Fox Sports. Trade. Of course, Mark's
former general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. His entire life
in professional football. How much does this dim the hopes
of the Ravens. If Lamar doesn't play these next two weeks,
that will with a one to three start.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Yeah, it's tough, right, I mean, obviously it's a It's
not where you want to see anybody have to and
this division is obviously going through its lowes right now
with the injuries. Actually have the quarterback position. The one
thing you can look at coming out of it is
that they really have a soft schedule after they're buy
you Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets just back to back
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to back to back to back. They have Bengals twice
and so there's a lot of victories still there. So
I still think they're going to be a wild card team,
even if they lose these next two games and fall
all the way down to one and five. I still
believe in this team too much. I agree with you,
bar Balls the head coach in twenty twenty six, unless
he doesn't want to coach anymore. There's no way with
the equity he's built that he would be out of there.
But you know, I think they're fortunate that the Bengals
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obviously had the catastrophic injury and they're in a division
where they just got to come in second.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, okay, let's get the last night. What was your
reaction to the play calling in overtime from Sean McVay.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Shockingly, you really aggressive, but then you know the kicker
missus a kick and you're like, you're not surprised he
you know, goes for it. So it's it's one of
those ones where you just feel like you already had
every opportunity to win. You have crazy turnovers, they get
the ball, use three time outs to get the ball back,
and then I mean just it was a crazy game
and somehow Shanahan walks out with the victory, and yet
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I think the better team lost last night. And so
you know, that's just the way the ball bounces. I mean,
it's a random fumble in a bad spot, or like
you said, maybe a difficult decision in terms of a
fourth down and not making it. But I thought the
Rams would win the game walking into it. Obviously it's not.
But I don't worry about the Rams and what I
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think they're going to be for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Mac Jones look backups for one game oftentimes they're really good,
and then you know they come back down to earth.
What are your thoughts on mac Jones and what our
expectations can be moving forward.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Yeah, well, I think with mac Jones, I mean anytime
a guy can go throw for three hundred yards, I
think that the number one indicator is this when a
quote coach grabs a younger quarterback Max got obviously experience,
but a younger quarterback, and he lets him throw it
forty times a game, which they've basically done with Nac
Jones every game's starter, right, He's thrown had almost forty
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attempts in every game, all three games he's played. That
shows you they have a ton of confidence him, understanding
the system and be able to trust him, like, Okay,
we don't have to turn around and get to our running
back because we're not sure because we've seen so many
times a quarterback who might beginning the game goes Caroll
to throw it twenty two times and we're going to
try to run. They believe in Nac Jones, and I
always thought that he was a good fit for the
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four nine ers, even when they took Trey Lance. In
my mind and I was on radio saying it, I
was like, I really think They'll take Jones because I
just feel like Shanahan will connect with him, and I
have a feeling John Lynch convinced him to go the
other direction. Now they get Jones, and he stepped in
here and played phenomenal. And I think you can say
with pretty good confidence when you've got a guy completing
sixty six sixty seven percent of his passes, still throwing
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the ball down the field at least it's over seven
yards in an attempt, and you know, just one time to
one interception. If I'm not mistaken, he's he's doing everything
you could ask and it's you know, kept the San
Francisco four hours absolutely in the Hunt.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Doug Otlebs Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic
is our guest, of course, general manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, as well as working his way up through
the food chain and now of course joins us on
a weekly basis here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let let's let's hang around a little bit, Schadoor Sanders,
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he's the backup or third string quarterback whatever. As a
quarterback change was made, and I guess he was responding
to Rex Ryan, but he was miming his Dad tweets
that he likes it. Uh, you've been a general manager
in the league. What was your reaction when you saw
his locker side interview?
Speaker 8 (39:50):
A little bit disappointing, you know, I think it's the same.
It's it's kind of that one where you're you know,
it's Dylan Gabriel's chance. Uh, you know, it's it's his
opportunity to finally uh have the clipboard. It makes total sense.
It's time for that, right, It's time for this to
get to that point where it's moving on. But I
just didn't like the way that he handles it all, just
to feel like, what's the right way to say? You know,
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you just feel like he's still just too mature, and
it's frustrating to watch, even from the sideline. And I'm
sure and within the building it's a it's just again
it's maturity level that you feel like you think he's
going to have, and then he does little things that
make you remind you that that's probably why he dropped.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's all making sense to so
so many people, Right, it's all making sense to to
just so many people. Mark aj Brown, you know, sends
out a tweet and apologize for the tweet. The Eagles
are still winning. They won a Super Bowl despite the
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fact he was a malcontent. I've seen people go over
the film and say, yeah, I know he got nine targets,
but they weren't nine good targets. What's the reality to
your thoughts on the Eagles and their aj Brown situation.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Yeah, I mean, any day's just got Look if they're
not even good targets, you're still getting targeted. I mean,
last three games, he's averaging nine targets a game. There's
a lot of receivers in the NFL that would love
and live to have that. And maybe they're not great targets,
but they're still you know, the focus is trying to
maybe get them the ball. You know, any great player
is going to want to make plays. Any great player
is going to want to be part of being successful
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or helping the team, you know, show off what they
can be. And I think obviously with the Philadelphia Eagles
at four and oh it's a subtle spot, but this
is where like the Saquon Barclays of the world can
really make an impact, even with the more of a
guy that's even more of a veteran. But I understand,
like you want to have a bigger impact on the games.
But the other thing is we need to have you
out there for the games, and so you take what
you can get. It's again, it's different if they were
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targeting two or three times four times a game and
there's frustration building up. But winning will help calm this
all down. If they keep doing that, it'll be water
under the bridge.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
The Colts lose to the Rams on Sunday, but part
of it was just a crazy fumble and series events
and and look, two of their three wins are over
the bottom of the NFL Dolphins and Titans. But did
be the Broncos and could have been the Rams to
get the Raiders to come in kind of limping in.
Then the Cardinals at home, so he got some winnable
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games before they head on the road to take on
the Chargers, Steelers, and Chiefs. How real is this cold start?
Speaker 8 (42:26):
I think it's real, and I think it speaks more.
Everything'll be like, well, what Tron, Why wasn't Daniel Jones
successful in the Giants? It was the offensive line was bad.
It's still not great at the Giants. Since we see
Jackson Dark trying to survive and Russell Wilson didn't. And
I think that offensive line, you know, it's so easy
to overlook it. You know, think about draft day when
your team that you love drafts offensive lineman. You know,
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a lot of times you're like, oh, great, we took
a guard first round, like, and then the other team
that's right next to you is like, got the brand
new running back of the new receiver, the sexuy tight end,
and they're like yeah, and You're like, I got a guard.
But in the end, the fact that I think because
the Colts offensive line is so much better than people realize,
and I think that's the biggest piece of the puzzle
of the cults. And so I think it's real because
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I think Daniel Jones has confidence and understanding of what
he's asked to do in the system. But again, it
goes more to the offensive line. And this is kind
of the first time that they've all been out out there.
And you know, there's a guy named Tanne Bordelini who's
the starting center, who was drafted in fourth round last
year because Ryan Kelly was there, he didn't get to play,
but he's played in flashes and I watched his tape.
But then Matt Conclaves was the third round pick same year.
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He kicked right into guard. And so you've got Quentin
Nelson's who looks really good right now, really athletic and smooth.
It's the offensive line. It's Tyler Warren. If you watch
his tape, he is a beast across the board. And
you got a quarterback that they trust. And I think
that's everything he could ask. So I think it's a
real thing. I don't think it's just a flashing fan
on who they played. I think the culture for real
and I can't I'll be honest, I'm surprised I'm saying it,
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but it's true.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, it really is amazing, right, it's amazing. On how
uh quickly you feel like they have I don't know,
I want to say, flip this thing, but they've they've
changed this thing for the better. Whereas you felt like
the staff was gonna be turned over. Then they go
and get Daniel Jones and like, no way that works,
and sure enough it again, so far, so far has worked,
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so Baker. They lose last week to Philly, but they're
they're three and one. They're going to take on Seattle
and Donold's got his team at three and one. There
are a lot of questions about Sam donald coming out
of Minnesota because everyone thinks you got a great quarterback, whisper,
you got a lot of talent. What are your thoughts
on Sam donald so far? You're one in Seattle.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
Yeah, I think John Schneider was right and he bought
the contract that was very club friendly, and I think
he's found the right guy. And now, yeah, we've got
to play down the stretch and postseason, all those things
that you know, such a disaster sadly for Sam at
the end of last year. But again, you know, little
indicators that you go to are you know, anytime a
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quarterback's you know, throwing the ball a lot over that
seventy percent completion rate. But also the difference is when
you're completing seventy percent, but his yards per tempt are
over nine yards. So that's a that's a lethal combination
that's working for them. And so that's where you like
Sam Donaldson. He's willing to be aggressive with the ball
and push the ball down the field and you've seen
him do that, and you know when he wants to
easy throw, maybe it's a J. Barner or somebody you know,
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one of the backs, but he is pushing the ball
down the field and you like to see that from him,
and so I feel really impressed by what he's been
able to accomplish. And now you look at the Seattle
Seahawks and you know they're in a spot, you know,
with a very hard division and might be quite frankly,
might be the toughest division in football, which if you
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told me to be in the season, that's say the
NFC West was going to be the toughest division football.
And then maybe I do believe that Arizona's still better,
but certainly right now that looks like it and Seattle
held their own.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, it's really kind of amazing what's done. I look,
the Raiders weren't expected to be good, but aren't we
seeing the ceiling of Gino Smith, It's like everybody loved
the story. He's better than we thought. People thought he
was washed up. But like I just I don't feel
I'm not surprised when he throws picks. I'm not. I'm
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just not by it. Then he got the Ashton genty thing,
where now of a sudden he looks like the College
Ashton gent It's only a couple of games, and people
were saying it's because you know of his uh Michael
myersh stance in the backfield. But the Raiders issue is
still on offense at least. Gino's not the quarterback of
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the future, is he. No?
Speaker 8 (46:38):
I don't think he is. And I think that they
were hoping he'd be the quarterback for the next year
or two while they've you know, whether poor O'Connell. Anytime
an opportunity comes up, another bro bone breaks in his body.
And so now you know, can they trash they draft?
You know, they trade real draft collateral for you know,
can you ticket? And then yet you know, I think
they'll play the season with Gino and then I think
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you're going to see this team of where they're going
to finish up being the market for drafting the quarterback
in the first round easily. And I think that's where
they're headed. And you know, when you look at Gena Smith, yes,
they are parts where I watch them like that that's actually
better than I thought or expected. But I think the
Ashton Genty thing along with Gino is part of that
offensive line in front of him is a bad unit.
Right now. They've got guys in my personal opinion that
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are out of position. Jackson powers. Johnson should not be
a guard, he should be a center. DJ Glaize is
not playing well at right tackle. They don't have a
ton of options now that they've got injuries as well.
But I just feel like we talked about the Colts
and how important that element is. I think the Raiders
are the exact opposite right now, where that line is
not playing at all to the level, and now they've
lost their left tackle as well, So this is a
really bad time for the Raiders. Stands.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Great stuff as always, man, listen, enjoy the weekend. You
always bring the great insight and analysis. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
As always, thanks for having me on, Buddy.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I need to check in with Jason Stewart. Jason, how
are you on your Dodgers prep for the Phillies all
my Dodgers prep? Like, just emotionally, where are you on
on the series with the Phillies?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Phillies and three? Why do you do that Phillies in three?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So the Dodger I'm gonna give you an example, Okay, okay.
Show Hao Tani went into the final weekend of the
regular season needing an RBI for RBA one hundred. We're
talking about show Heo Tani with fifty plus home runs.
Kyle Schwarber, who was the lead offf man for the Phillies,
his counterpart, had one hundred and thirty six RBI on
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the season. So just if you're looking for a contrast,
the seven eight nine hitters of the Phillies get on
base for Kyle Schwarber. The Dodgers one of their achilles
heel is seven eight nine. We have a catcher I
think with a lifetime average of one. So that's just
one of the reasons they'll likely lose the series.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Okay, how do you feel about show Hey getting the start? Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I love it. I love watching that guy. P This
is the I hate predictions, but I just want to
show you where my instincts are. Showhey goes an amazing
five innings and they somehow find a way to lose
it with the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I knew that prediction was Kevin
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