October 8, 2018 • 42 mins
Doug thinks Odell Beckham Jr.'s pregame comments about his teammates have done irreparable harm to the Giants. He also tried warning you about the Eagles not being able to replicate the success they had last season. And Chargers RB Austin Ekeler joins the show to talk about his big performance over the weekend and playing a home game where there were more Raiders fans in attendance than Chargers fans.
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is undefeated, undisputed best team in the NFC, the l
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A Rams, who got an absolute gift from Pete Carroll
because Sean McVeigh was gonna go all Jason Garrett late
in that game. More on that to come. Chargers beat
the Raiders because the Raiders suck. Whether they have more
home fans than the Charges in Carson, it doesn't matter.
Chargers probably the best three and two team in the league.
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But once again, a missed extra point. You start scratching
your head. Miss kicks. I can't recall more missed kicks.
Make a bow kicks. Mason Crosby misses, not one, not
too not three, not four, five kicks, four field goals,
and an extra point. What then we got a lot
to get to Major League Baseball Braves fight off the
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Doyers because they can't feel an easy flyball with two
outs and ends up sparking a five run inning. So
you get a little Kuna matata grand slam the Rockies
already out of the playoffs, like what? And I still
don't know why Major League Baseball is choosing to play
games on Sundays against the NFL, because I'm guessing many
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of you were like, wait, they had baseball games yesterday. Yeah,
they did. That's okay, we'll get to some baseball. Let's
talk some football. There's a bunch of expressions that I
have learned and taken from my colleagues people I like,
people I respect, all right. Um, the one that Chris
Carter gets credit for, which is, by the way, accurate,
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is you got to have a fall guy. Right. That
was a good one. You got to have a fall guy.
But by by saying you got to have a fall
guy too, I believe it was the Rookie Symposium back
in the day, and that end up getting Broadcay wasn't
supposed to be broadcast, was actually on the NFL's website
for like a year before people like, oh, you can't
say that. It's one of those you can say the truth.
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You've just got to be careful where into who you
say the truth, which is what I guess defenders of
Odell Beckham Jr. Would be saying. Now, what I will
tell you is the absolute positive truth. And him once
again gonna take from my good pal Chris Carter, who
he can He can walk it and he can talk
it because he's lived it. He nearly drank himself out
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of the NFL and that had an incredible research since
and became a Hall of Fame player. Now he's a broadcaster.
But I'll never forget this saying, and it's about guys
that get draft in the NFL that have checks against them,
marks against them. And he says, this is a great
pointing point. Money doesn't make you something that money doesn't
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change you, makes it more of who you are. And
there is no more obvious person to point that out
than Odell Beckham Jr. Look, the Giants offseason was a
complete joke. It was a joke. They had a chance
to draft a quarterback with the second pick in the draft,
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and as many will tell you in history tells you
they almost never draft in the top five draft. And
oh yeah, by the way, Sam Donald, who many people,
myself included believe was the best quarterback prospect, felled to
them at number two. Additionally, they could have stuck a
dagger in the heart of the team that shares the
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stadium with them, the Jets, who moved three first round picks,
second round picks, and traded first round picks to sit
behind them at the third pick. But an effort to
protect Eli Manning because they thought he still had gas
in the tank, they hired Pat Shermer, who's an offensive guru.
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They chose to draft a running back instead of drafting
your quarterback, and they of course rightfully tried to fix
their offensive line, which was a disaster. And oh yeah,
by the way, they also decided to pay Odell Beckham Jr.
Because hey, who's better as a quarterback's best friend than
a top five wide receiving talent. But Odell Beckham Jr.
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Is not smart enough to know what he apparently does
not know, which is dude. Everybody says they want the truth,
and they just don't because you can't talk about the
places that you work and you It's obviously he's not
married because what Odell Beckham Jr. Did And sitting down
with Josina Anderson and Little Wayne, he was like, why
is little Wayne here? That was weird. Do you want
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to include your age in the interview? No? Do you
want to include your girlfriend the interview? No? Do you
want to include I don't know. You're appreciated if you know,
how about little Wayne? That sounds like a good idea
talk that would say that one to the mirror and
see how you react when you're here in the mirror.
I said this when they gave him the new contract,
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like three months of good behavior, they wanted to get
rid of him. They were tired of him, between the
antics with the other team, between the antics with his
own team, between the people he was hanging out out with,
and the video of him with a woman and what
looked like cocaine. They were like, we're done. And he's like,
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you know what, No, no, no, I'm better. I'm good now.
I'm not healthy, but I'll worked out on the side,
I'll act like I'm a leader. Then he sits down
four weeks into the season and chooses to What he
said essentially is telling your wife when she asks you,
do I look fat in these pants? You say, you
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know what you do. You should go to the gym,
You should eat less carbs, you should drink more water
because you look overweight. Honey. He didn't just call out
Eli Manning. Go back in listen to the interview. He
talks about the energy that they need and that they
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need heart. What he's saying is we don't play hard,
we don't practice hard. Our team has no heart, no courage.
He said, who he said, and then he and then
he said, our two times Superowl champion quarterback stinks and
our new coach doesn't get me the ball isn't scheming
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to get me the football. The craziest part about his
spat with honesty right, it was almost as if remember
eighties movies where they would invest they would they would
get a guy, they would see question in the room.
They shine some white light on him and the guy
would start sweating and all of a sudden, like the
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white light would make him tell the truth. Remember that
like spy movies. Now they inject you with something you
just can't tell a lie. Was. He was asked whether
he was proud of their record, and he said yes,
So he lied about whether he's practiced. Nobody's proud of
being one in three one three time. Now the one
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in four after Graham Gono makes a fifty million yard
field goal to beat them. So he lies about being
proud of the record, but then tells the utter truth
from his perspective about all that's wrong in the Giants organization. Huh,
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say what, But that's because Odell Beckham Jr. Isn't a
different guy since he got paid. Because money doesn't change you,
it just makes you more of who you are. Oh,
that guy's a dB since since winning the lottery. Now
he was a dB before he won the lottery. Now
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it's just a lot more obvious. That's what took place.
And anyone defending him has not only never played on
a in team sports, but they probably haven't worked in
the corporation. Right. Go, All we do is we want
athletes to be honest. Okay, not to the detriment of
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others who you work with, who you need in order
to help you succeed. Imagine that, and this is not
the truth, but imagine if somebody said, hey, godln you worked.
What is it like to work at Fox? Oh? You know,
it's it's great. You know. John Ramos peshes the wrong
button like three times an hour. Ryan Music, He's constantly
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worried about where he's getting married in like three years.
Dan Buyer, he's on Twitter instead of updated like might
like again, these things aren't the truth. But if they
were the truth, imagine how that would go over, Like, Oh,
finally some honesty. Yeah. Those are the people you work with.
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Those are the people who make you look better. Those
are the people who are going to help you. I mean,
you couldn't do that at home. My wife's allows it cooks.
She's not a particularly good wife, and she's usually too
tired when I come to bed. Oh but I'm super
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happy being married. That's what he That's what he did me.
I'm great. I've never been better, best shaped my life.
You know, I'm a good provider. That's what Odell Beckham Jr.
Did Said committed, and that's why his head coach is
furious with him. Curious And if you want to base
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his success based upon his productivity, which he was productive
yesterday against the Panthers, fine, but the harm he has
done has been irreparable to the Giants. Be sure to
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and the I Heart Radio app. There's a lot about
the Raiders taking over um the Stubbhub Center, which is
in cars, which is kind of the home of Raider fandom,
and that appeared accurate. A matter of fact, the Chargers
really struggled early on the game opening drive score three points,
but then they were struggling to get things going. That's
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when they found our next guest on a kind of
a botched play, and he took it the yards the
house broke the game open and changed. The final score
is twenty six to ten, but the Raiders got a
touchdown when they weren't set offensively. The Chargers missed an
extra point um and so it was a lot bigger
whooping than twenty to ten. Austin Neckler joins us in
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the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. What has
this been like to play home games in the NFL
but to not have uh an overwhelming support of the fans? Yeah,
first off, one from having me, but uh, the support,
you know, it's Uh, it's been it's been a clonal
as far as you know, the fans depot. It's not
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I feel I was, Uh, it's kind of I kind
of talked about it the other day that what you've
mentioned the we're kind of in the heart of you know,
Raiders fans, and so we knew the state was probably
all black like it was, and so you know, it's
just come to the team to come together even more.
And then you're not because we're playing by teammates enough
of your fans ever got enough fans? You know. It's
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it's funny because what I've been told is that, look,
look this year, second year. You've seen this before. It
wasn't as bad last year because the Raiders were, you know,
in last place by the time you guys got them
at home and beat them. But then a lot of
the a lot of the new guys, especially against the Niners,
they ran out and they were like wait, what, Like
it was the new guys that had to make the adjustment.
What do you tell them? He's gonna let him know
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how it's gonna be. And you know, that's just the
reality of you know, where we're gonna be dealing with
and so come out. Hey. Like you said, we're playing
for each other saying yeah, especially for you know, a
guy like Durwan, you know he's got for say, they
got all the hands and everything. You're coming really have,
you know, a stadium full of all own fans, you know.
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So it's it's an adjustment for definitely all our new
guys and for us in general. You marked down the
field and you get a fel goal, you start kind
of feeling good, your defense gets get to stop, you
get it back and you punt. You punt the next
I think it was three possess Sians and then Philip
gets the ball snapped him and he drops it and
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then he picks it up and there's a rush come
from left hand side. You're just out there. It's a
screen pass. Was it was that what you were supposed
to be or did you just kind of make it
up on the fly. No. Yeah, I was supposed to
be out there and there was a hot hot pass
right now, it's a hot route. So he was supposed
to do it outlight away, but like you said, he
bombed it and ended up taking a little longer and
it was a little closer than he said, you know,
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ended up working out. It's first in town from the
Oakland forty four. You catch the ball and for people
who haven't seen it, you make one cut to your
right and you've got a couple of linemen clearing the way,
plus two raiders run into each other. Like as soon
as you cut to the right, did you see the house?
Did you know that this this thing all of a
sudden's gonna open up? You know? I catch it right? Yeah,
like you said, you know they ran into each other
for everything. Keenan out and actually had nice block down
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two just get that touchdown Buck and then passed. Then
there was just green dass has Antonio Gates told you guys,
you're all crazy for going to training camp, right He
he didn't go to camp. He comes out, he still
catch football. He's probably gonna be looking at you, like,
what were you guys doing for that month and a half? Unpence?
You know you could do that? Tell you guys, developer
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a little different boat. Austin Ekeler joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Trader your guy that
they split out wide. Um they even I saw the
play Where was Melvin scored on a touchdown or it
was the first down he lined up his fullback. When
was the last time the Melvin Gordon does Has he
lined up at fullback ever before? I don't think he's
ever done that in the game. No, no, So that
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was really a little different package to give a defense
a little different look. Yeah, for for people to see
they were they were going forward on. I'm gonna say
it was fourth in short and you guys give me
either call the time out or come out, and you
were back at running back. Melvine's at fullback. It was
just a quick handoff to Melvin he got the first time.
A matter of fact, the CBS announcer said, that's probably
the first time Melvin Gordon's ever lined up at fullback.
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So's some creativity with how you guys are being used.
Have you have you hit the potential for it? Because
you guys have an InCred doable group in terms of
the weaponry, and obviously not having Hunter has changed kind
of this group. Um, but seeing all the different places
they've lined you up, have you guys yet to hit
your peak level of production offensively? You know, I think
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we're gonna keep sending up by leave, you know, so
we can't get scheming so I think on the level
of production is gonna keep going up because we're gonna
keep changing. So we're gonna give defensive bunch of different looks,
and I think he's gonna have a lot of success
with it. Um you okay with giving away carries to
Melvin Ingram. I don't know about that one difference, but
I would looking back like, I don't know, yeah, so
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I so I It's like, look, you've got two really
good running backs back there, and then they bring in
your you know, your defensive end in to try and
score touchdown. I'm sure Fantasmalers weren't very happy about that one,
you know, like I said, once I was back, Hey,
we worked out in practice. I thought it was gonna
be a good player just and then working that one.
Austin Neckler joining us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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Fox Sports Radio. How this happened for you? How how
did you go from a guy who, you know, most
of America hadn't heard of in college too, you know,
now almost like a household name in the league. Right,
Like Western State in Colorado? Where is Western State in Colorado.
It's a little mountain town up in the Rocky Mountains,
about five thousand people at the town about people in
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the school? When did when did you know you were
going to stick in the league? Um? Shoot, I'd say
been way through the first season. As when physically I
so like I could play at this level, and you know,
I didn't know how much success I would have or
anything like that. But that's kind of the factor when
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you come into the league. You're not sure physically, especially
in my my situation, come from a smaller school. Say okay,
that's that's the biggest things character physically playing this league.
About halfway through his lines like yeah, I could physically
do this, and then since then I've been able to
make some place here and then you know I'm not back.
You're from Eating Colorado right now? How you pronounce it? Yeah? Okay?
So what's in eating is the tiny town's like five
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thousand people a lesson five thousand people? What's what's in it? Like?
What where's the place where everybody goes to hang on?
A little farm town? You know, big on the high
school sports. We had always had a great support from
the from the local town. But that's just one of
those times that everyone knows everyone and you know, kind
of my group that I grew up with. We played
all the sports together, so we're really close from the
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tight now that helps us all out. Actually, one of
my tight ends is a long snapper for the Raiders
that we played together, exaculated together, and so that was
pretty cool to you know, see him on the field yesterday.
That's pretty amazing. Two guys from a town of town
of people that that made it to the NFL. So
you didn't you still tell me like is there a
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main street in town? And is there one place where
you guys can have pizza burgers? Like what one stop?
My wife's my wife? My wife from a one stop?
Like town? Is it a sonic? Is there what a burger?
What's the what's the what's the joint? Where you go
from from finn I think they have McDonald's and a
taco Bell, But then they have all like the mom
and pop shops, you know, a little stores for no
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parel things like that, and then like little restaurants here
and there. It's actually they put a hotel in the
it's a long ago a highway and so like one
of those towns, like she's I having along the highway
and look around like who was there here like one
of those Now is there is there a sign up
for you yet? Did they go this? Eating eating at
in Colorado home of bust Neckler? Took it, took took
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a ball forty four yards to the house against the Raiders.
Probably that because we have I don't know if you
know mission right. You know he's playing I think out
in Tampa. You know he's been playing for like eight
or nine years. You just had a couple of signs up. Uh.
I remember when I went back one time he had
to sign up. He had doing some business in the
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town something like that. I don't know if I got
one yet? Not not yet. Well, well, there's there's still
plenty plenty of time. Look, you guys are three in two.
The two losses again two undefeated teams that the you know,
the Chiefs and the Rams. Now you get a chance
against the Browns team. Uh, that's one a game that
they're two and two. What what's got to change with
this team to get you to where you beat the
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good teams? Thins our consistency, you know, that's that's the
thing you hear out throughout the entire league, but it's
it's true thing. Whoever can be more consistent on that day,
it's probably gonna win the game. And you know, we have,
like you talked about earlier, we have the tools to
you know, to be an explosive offense and things of
that nature. And so it's just gonna come down to
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ab be making the plays on that day. Hey, continued
health and success. They traveled to Cleveland. Thanks for joining us,
and we'll give a big shout out to everybody eating Colorado. Hey,
I appreciate it. Man. You ever going be sure to
catch live editions. So the Doug Dot Leap Show week
days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. We kind of
set it up for you Friday. As Connors a striker,
like a stand up striker and a counterpuncher. Whereas a baby,
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he'll take you to the ground like he is a grappler,
like bye bye. You know, basically my birth his dad
was and that's how he's And there's actually video of
him wrestling a bear as a kid. That's a bear cub,
but it's still a bear. I thought it was awesome.
Although I thought it was awesome, um, but then everyone
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all anyone's talking about is the brawl afterwards, Right, this
is the power of the image of a guy going
into the stands and people from the stands coming out
of the stands and climbing over a cage. And by
the way, the whole idea of a cage is to
keep people out or to keep people in that cage.
There's been no bigger, better sale for not building a wall.
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Then what just happened at UFC, Right, don't keep people
out and don't keep people in doesn't work. But um,
I understand that people don't like the grappling style, true
wrestling style, get a guy to the ground, make him
tap out style. It can be. It's hard. It doesn't
translate well on TV. It's one of the reasons that wrestling,
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which is one of the original five core sports the
Olympics White, it struggles to be on TV. It's an
amazing sport. You ever had a kid might just son
did it for a year. I want to put him
back in it. You ever had a kid do it?
Like man? That's the It's an incredible sport. Incredible, but um,
but it's it's hard to televise. It's hard to watch
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because you can't see or understand some of the moves
or some of the counterattacks and all the stuff going on.
But like he checks every other box though for a
guy who should be a villain, right, Like he's Muslim,
he's Russian. Now he fights a style nobody likes and
he'll go into the stands. But I put the blame
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for that one on Dana White and on Conno McGregor. Right,
like this, you talk about a dude enough his religion,
his family, his country, like you can do in boxing.
Guys are all in on it right, just the way
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to bring attention to the fight. You get a hardcore
Russian dude whose dad was a grappler and he's been
trained like since birth to be this dude, be this guy.
They're not wired like normal human is. Like ha, they
can't laugh it off. That's why he went into the stands.
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And you may think that looks cool, like, oh, that's
that's awesome. No, not awesome. Imagine some multimillionaire billionaire sitting
up close and their wife, you know, tears an achilles
tendon or you know, gets get people fall into her
or somebody gets even worse dies. Not funny then not funny,
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But that's you know, Dana, let Connor do all this
talking you know, show up late for a press conference
where Habib leaves like he's not in on all that
he's a fighter. He is. He is like like a like, look,
I'm an anti pit bull guy, not because I have
any negative feelings about dogs, but some pit bulls have
been trained through the years to fight. Is there natural
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innate instinct they can't help themselves, And that's what he is.
He's basically a human pit bull. Do you hear him
talk afterwards? I mean, sorry, he's apologetic, He's like, but
you know, I just I couldn't take it watching Habib
go into the crowd, thinking, holy cow, somebody might be
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really hurt or somebody could die like he didn't even
mean to. But he's a trained weapon. Fox Sports Radio
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R to listen live. The idea that the Philadelphia Eagles,
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as soon as they got Carson Wentz back, would maintain
the level of focus and really dominance as they had
last year before he got hurt, and even the Super
Bowl they were able to win when he got hurt.
He's completely obtuse to the reality of sport, the reality
of life. Yes, they had players injured whom they have
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mostly gotten back from injury this year. And yes, they
still on paper have a dynamic front seven defensively, and
they have some good pieces offensively. And Carson Wentz when right,
should have won the m v P last year, but
he's only in his third year and he's coming off
of knee surgery. They did employ Joe j g I,
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who the Dolphins jettison mid season, and they got the
best of j j I. Why, he was trying to
prove the entire league wrong. They had a whole team
full of people that was trying to prove everybody wrong.
They're playing that underdog card. That underdog card is great
when you're actually the underdog. Now you're the favorite, and
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it's different. You don't sneak up on anybody. You don't
have anything more to prove. You may say I got
something to prove, but you really don't already proved it.
They won a Super Bowl with one arm tied behind
their back. Nick Foles is their quarterback, right, what is
ther Bowl? So? And they beat the Patriots. However, you
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want to look at that Patriots team not playing. Malcolm
Butler and Brandon Cooks got hurt in the first quarter,
didn't play. That doesn't matter. They beat the Mighty Patriots
in the super Bowl without their starting quarterback. What will
they do when they have their quarterback back? The answer
is losing home to the Vikings, a Vikings team that
is massively depleted by injuries. But this is the shell
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of the like and the Vikings. Dan Bailey missed two
kicks before you hit the game winner. It wasn't like
Dan Bailey was like fifty four forty two. Like damn
they lost to like look Tipper Caps. Sometimes you lose
to a guy got a hot kicker. They cover completely public.
No Vikings won the game. Vikings beat them. Vikings beat
their ass. Do you know why? Because they are everybody's
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biggest game. It doesn't mean that you didn't get up
for Eagles games or to play the link and play
in Philadelphia in the past. But you gotta admit is
different now, Right? Who called the game? Don't call the game?
Were the broadcasters for the game? Monte guess? Go ahead? Right? Music?
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Was it Bucking Ackman? I believe it was Joe Buck
and Troy Aikman. Do you know why, Because the number
one team goes the number one game. The number one
game doesn't usually involve UH Minnesota and phil Adelphia. It
just doesn't. It doesn't unless the Philadelphi Eagles are the
defending Super Bowl champions and now they're the number one.
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Get they get, They get Bucket Eggman and Aaron Andrews.
They get the first team. They also got the vikings.
They got everybody's attention, because the last thing you want
is to not only get beaten, but get beaten when
everybody is paying attention, and by the defending Super Bowl
champions who want to run their mouths a little bit.
We don't want that. Oh yeah, by the way, last
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time we came in here, we lost the NFC Championship
game with kase Keenum. You you make you can act.
Unless we're the same, we get the same level, and
that's fine. The rest of the league does not view
you the same. You are not the underdog, and it
is the hunt. Hunted is different than the hunter. It
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is completely different in terms of your level. If you
go to you go to Vegas, right, and if you're
the one guy who's smart enough to get up, get
a league get up five hundred bucks and then take
four hundred off the table, put in your pocket and
go like or give it to somebody walk away. You're not.
And then you're just playing with house money. You're not
gonna plays tight with that house money. You're not. But
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when you play with your own money, when your rents
on the line, you are tight. You are nervous. Your
attention to every car being flipped over, every every different
tell at a table, your chip count slow, you're paying
attention to everything. I'd love to say that the best
of the best they win, and they just keep that
level of focus, Like there's a reason that the Patriots
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move on from guys and they keep getting guys you've
never heard of. But if you thought the Philadelphi Eagles
were gonna be the exact same team, and I will
grant you injuries, really to all Sean, that was a
big thing. Carson Wentz coming off in a c L.
You're not the same right away. It takes you, takes
you six seven games, maybe even a year before you're
actually back. But that offensive line is not good, not
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blocking people. And if you can and if you can
uh handle their pass rush, their defensive backfields not good,
but more than anything, it's just a different world when
you're wearing that crowd, when you're walking in and you
got what everybody else wants, They're coming at you a
little bit harder, they're preparing a little bit more, and
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it matters at a different a little bit higher level
than it matters to them. Be sure to catch live
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eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app Let's Get the Trend. Dilfer, who's
a Super Bowl champion frequent contributor to the show. He
joints us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
(29:46):
We're just talking about Philadelphia, the Eagles, and how, um
it's differently in the Super Bowl champions and how people
prepare for you differently. And you may not think you're
preparing differently, but you are. In fact. How much does
it change when you win the A game? Yeah, I
think that's a big part of it. Done. I do
think you know, you have a giant target on your
chest each week, people have studied you all off season. Um,
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there's an extra level of preparation. But I also think
you know that those Eagles players and coaches had a
very different experience this offseason. They had access to more stuff,
they had more distractions, people pouring perfume on them everywhere
they went, and just human nature, as you're gonna start
believing it, and you're gonna start believing that you're gonna
come back the next season, and it's just gonna happen
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all over again. And so I think that's why it's
so hard for these teams, um, when they have success
to come back the next year and match the previous
year success. Outside of the Patriots, and I think what
the Patriots have done, what every team needs to do
a better job of the modeling as they reinvent themselves
each year and they don't rest on the previous year's
successes and they know, um very well that the challenges
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are even are even more um difficult following year after
having success. I think all these things add up and
the Eagles just have not handled the success of last
year very well. Okay, but now what about in terms
of their play? Why is their offensive line struggling so badly?
You know when you're when? And again I think there's
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a lot of reasons, um, but to me. The biggest
thing is they've lost that ability in must run situations.
They can run the ball, but the must run when
everybody knows you're gonna run, that extra physicality, UM, that
ability to look across the line of scrimase we're gonna
we're running it right now if you try to stop us.
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I think when you're able to do that, it sets
up all the other things they like to do in
their offense, especially the r p os. They're very big
r PO team. UM teams don't have to honor those
r p o s if there's not the threat of
that UM physicality in the run game. I think that's
the biggest thing I do thing. Since Carson's come back,
he's held the ball a little along too. I don't
see him making his crisp decisions early in play as
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I did last year. Part that's probably the limited off season,
limited training camp, UM. But he he seems to be
holding the ball attle bit longer than last year. And
all those things start added up and it looks like
the offensive line is just a disaster, but when really
it's some of it's a sum of a lot of
different things. UM. Let's go to last night Dallas Cowboys
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fourth in one from the UH Texans forty three yard
line and Jason Garrett decides to punt. What was your
reaction when he made that decision. I understood it. You know,
I'm not saying they're freaking out about it. I understood
why I did it. You know, they're trying to create
an identity as a football team of defense, first, controlled
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the ball, built around Ezekiel and the opportunist, opportunistic in
the passing game. So it fits kind of what they're
trying to be. Now. Personally, I'm a big believer in
this new you know, what is it momentum of going
for it on a lot of fourth downs and the
numbers are in your favor, and I think it's part
that time of the game, that part of the field. Um, Personally,
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I think he should have gone for it, and I
bet you he's regretting the decision the sporting But I
also also understood in context of what the Cowboys are
this year, why they decided to punt and pan and
try to play these Yeah, And it wasn't like the
Texans were marching up and down the field. And I
do think that people don't realize maybe forty three yard line.
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I here's what I take from it. You and me,
we probably go for it, right. We got a special play,
We had a special group of plays for just that
sort of situation that we try and execute, and we
we go for it. On the other hand, if you
don't get it, you're one or two completions away from
losing the game, as opposed to if you kick it
and you do it right now a sudden you're you know,
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two or three plays from getting the football back and
winning the game. Yeah. And I was watching our buddy
kin Housel back today on um TV, and he made
a great argument for White upun it. They've been thinking
in the run game they were getting man hands up front,
they are the edges were being set by the Texans.
So when you're seeing that as a head coach, one, Okay,
we're not gonna run the ball. We just lost yardage
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on third down. Okay, let's bootlet it's been a hard bootlegging.
They've had a hard time getting back out and breaking contains.
So really all those short yardage plays that you would
go to, you know, the way the game's going, it's like,
we're not gonna go out to execute these Okay, well
it's throwing slats receiver. Who who's your big alpha receiver.
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They can go and embody up first man and make
the play. So they're kind of I can kind of
understand it more based on how the game was, the
temperament of the game. It seemed to me like, and
I'm sure Jason Garret felt the same way. We're just
getting our butts kid. We have a better chance to
pump this thing down, play good defense and get it
back and good field positions start over again. Dil for
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
(34:50):
Sports Radio. Um, it feels like Derek Carr regressed yesterday.
Am I wrong? Honestly, I have not seen the whole game.
I've just seen highlights. Um. Three end zone interceptions is
three too many? One the lot Like if you play
a season and you throw one interception, enzom, that's a lot. Um,
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he's troll them three. I think that's the biggest issue. Uh.
He's a very very gifted passer. UM. I kind of
like what they're trying to do offensively. Um, But it
seems I think Gruden mentioned this about the try too hard.
It seems like there's some anxiety in his game. You
look at the interceptions he's thrown, You look at the
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first down interceptions he's thrown, You look at kind of
the situations when they haven't been able to put points
on the board, and it appears to me if there's
a little anxiety in his game, very correctible. I think
he will. He's very talented player, but so far this
season it has not been his best football, and especially
in critical moments. Drew is probably gonna pass Peyton's mark tonight.
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How has he been able to do this? Right? You're
not supposed to be able to there will be that
small or that old and be this effective. How has
the Drew Brees thing happened? That's a great question. Um.
I mean, he's the ultimate pro will start there. Um,
you know, the common phenomenator when you talk about the
Mannings and the Bradies and the Rivers and the Breezes
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and whoever you want to put on your lists, Um,
they're they're just the ultimate pros. They just out prepare
everybody else. They have a beautiful mind for the game. Um.
I think the synergy he has with Sean Payton has
really helped, and he mentioned that in interview as well
as there's so many people to think and Shawn's one
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of them, and just the belief the same tad in
him after his time in San Diego Sean Payton, especially
that symponico relationship he has with the play calling for
all these years. Um, he's obviously very talented, He's a
very gifted pastor. He's a phenomenal foot athlete. I mean,
people don't give enough credit for, especially in his younger years,
what a great athlete he was. Um, and I just
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think he's he's one of those passers that kind of
created his own way of doing it and he didn't
try to be like anybody else. He just tried to
be the best version of himself and it has become
a pretty awesome version. I have not been an admiration
for the man and the player has been fun because
you know what I do with the with the youth kid,
with the high school kids too. We use him as
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teaching tape like we use Drew Brees as one of
our best examples of how to how to play the game,
how to pass, how to play a position of quarterback.
He just kind of does. He checks every box. There's
thirty layers. If there's thirty boxes checking me in a
great quarterback he checks all three, trying Dilford joining us
in the Doug Galip Show. Fall him on Twitter at
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Dilfer's Dimes. Check out the Elite eleven Dot Combinations Premier
Quarterback competition, something that he's run for years. Um speaking
of the young quarterbacks rookies four no, four no yesterday,
who's up? Whose performance was the most impressive of those rookies?
I really like tell Donald play, Uh played, Um, big
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boy throws, UM getting full field reads. You know, a
couple of those chunk throws he makes down the field.
He's not staring him down, you know, he's he's looking
away first, he's getting back to the other side of
the field, playing around with safeties with his eyes. You know,
just just some gradual level stuff. And the big boy throws,
I mean that those were Those are some phenomenal throws.
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And I like how he's handled the adversity so far
the season. I just like his overall makeup. I just
really believe it's gonna be a superstar, and yesterday you
could see a lot of it. Odell Beckham Jr. I
was critical of him, like, look, dude, you can't. When
you say your team doesn't have energy, that means you
your coach isn't getting your play hard. When you say hard,
you you attack how NFL player's heart like, good luck
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with that in the locker room. And then of course
he said, I feel like I'm being schemed out. I'm
not being utilized well. And he said something about Eli
not throwing the ball down field. Look, I don't think
you can utter all of these things, but that's me.
I haven't lived in a n TELL locker room, only
basketball locker rooms. How do you think he was handled
within the locker room? Terrible? I mean it goes against everything, Um,
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it goes against everything you want to be as a
as a team player. It just it rips apart the
team dynamics. It creates a bunch of messes for everybody
else to come clean up for you. Now, Monday and
Tuesday days for reflection and um getting better and moving
on to the next week. Monday and Tuesday. Now you're
dealt with having to deal with Odell Beckham stuff. Do
you have an answer for him? You know you're having
(39:32):
to deal with excess media stuff. It's just the big, hot,
stinking pile of you know what when a player becomes
that selfish and and uses that form to express his frustrations. Now,
I think everything he said there's some truth to it
should have been said privately, UM, to management or coaches
(39:53):
or team meetings or something besides a cheesy sit down
with Josina for the world old to see. I just
it was so bad. I was blown away. Um. And
I really like Odell, you know, I've got to know
him over the years, and I really liked the kid. Um.
I thought this was just all bad. I can't think
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of any other way of say, Angels all bad. Okay,
But but the naysayer will say, hey, look they went out,
they played, they probably could have won or should have
won the game. Now for fifty seven yard field goal,
what's the big deal. I don't care what the naysayer says.
I've been in the locker room my entire life. I
know all these things play out. It's all bad. There's
not nothing good is going to come out of that. Um.
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They may play better. Um, they may do some things
that have nothing to do with that. But being part
of a football team, no matter how good you are,
no matter what your role is, UM, you have to
look at it is something bigger than yourself. If you
get if you're gonna be good. And that had everything
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to do with Odell Beckham Jr. Nothing to do with
the team. Doug out the show fox Port Traited. That's
the voice of Trent Dilford. Trent. Aaron Rodgers admittedly played
poorly in the first half two fumbles, but now look
when his fault, they missed five kicks, four field goals
and an extra point. What do you think is going
on with Rogers though, that he got off to such
a bad start. I mean, obviously he's playing banged up.
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I think that is a big part of it. Um,
It's it's hard. A lot of quarterbacks are doing it.
But it's hard to be your best when physically you're
not there. Um, they've had some injuries that receiver, so
there's some timing stuff that's going on. I've never been
a believer. I know people talk about how good their
tackles are in past protection. I don't see it. I
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don't think they're a great offensive line. I think that
is part of it. Um. But I mean it's Aaron
plays at such a high level. He has set the
bar so high. Um that when it doesn't look the same. Um.
People tend to freak out. Uh. To me, I thought
outside the two fumbles, Uh, it seemed like Aaron To me, Um,
(42:06):
he seemed like he was playing at a very very
high level, especially in the second half. I don't think
this is a reason to panic. I just think that
you know, they're a team, they're an offense that relies
so much on him that as he is off at all, Uh,
it looks much worse than it really is. Great stuff.
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A Rams, who got an absolute gift from Pete Carroll
because Sean McVeigh was gonna go all Jason Garrett late
in that game. More on that to come. Chargers beat
the Raiders because the Raiders suck. Whether they have more
home fans than the Charges in Carson, it doesn't matter.
Chargers probably the best three and two team in the league.
(01:04):
But once again, a missed extra point. You start scratching
your head. Miss kicks. I can't recall more missed kicks.
Make a bow kicks. Mason Crosby misses, not one, not
too not three, not four, five kicks, four field goals,
and an extra point. What then we got a lot
to get to Major League Baseball Braves fight off the
(01:27):
Doyers because they can't feel an easy flyball with two
outs and ends up sparking a five run inning. So
you get a little Kuna matata grand slam the Rockies
already out of the playoffs, like what? And I still
don't know why Major League Baseball is choosing to play
games on Sundays against the NFL, because I'm guessing many
(01:50):
of you were like, wait, they had baseball games yesterday. Yeah,
they did. That's okay, we'll get to some baseball. Let's
talk some football. There's a bunch of expressions that I
have learned and taken from my colleagues people I like,
people I respect, all right. Um, the one that Chris
Carter gets credit for, which is, by the way, accurate,
(02:11):
is you got to have a fall guy. Right. That
was a good one. You got to have a fall guy.
But by by saying you got to have a fall
guy too, I believe it was the Rookie Symposium back
in the day, and that end up getting Broadcay wasn't
supposed to be broadcast, was actually on the NFL's website
for like a year before people like, oh, you can't
say that. It's one of those you can say the truth.
(02:34):
You've just got to be careful where into who you
say the truth, which is what I guess defenders of
Odell Beckham Jr. Would be saying. Now, what I will
tell you is the absolute positive truth. And him once
again gonna take from my good pal Chris Carter, who
he can He can walk it and he can talk
it because he's lived it. He nearly drank himself out
(02:57):
of the NFL and that had an incredible research since
and became a Hall of Fame player. Now he's a broadcaster.
But I'll never forget this saying, and it's about guys
that get draft in the NFL that have checks against them,
marks against them. And he says, this is a great
pointing point. Money doesn't make you something that money doesn't
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change you, makes it more of who you are. And
there is no more obvious person to point that out
than Odell Beckham Jr. Look, the Giants offseason was a
complete joke. It was a joke. They had a chance
to draft a quarterback with the second pick in the draft,
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and as many will tell you in history tells you
they almost never draft in the top five draft. And
oh yeah, by the way, Sam Donald, who many people,
myself included believe was the best quarterback prospect, felled to
them at number two. Additionally, they could have stuck a
dagger in the heart of the team that shares the
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stadium with them, the Jets, who moved three first round picks,
second round picks, and traded first round picks to sit
behind them at the third pick. But an effort to
protect Eli Manning because they thought he still had gas
in the tank, they hired Pat Shermer, who's an offensive guru.
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They chose to draft a running back instead of drafting
your quarterback, and they of course rightfully tried to fix
their offensive line, which was a disaster. And oh yeah,
by the way, they also decided to pay Odell Beckham Jr.
Because hey, who's better as a quarterback's best friend than
a top five wide receiving talent. But Odell Beckham Jr.
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Is not smart enough to know what he apparently does
not know, which is dude. Everybody says they want the truth,
and they just don't because you can't talk about the
places that you work and you It's obviously he's not
married because what Odell Beckham Jr. Did And sitting down
with Josina Anderson and Little Wayne, he was like, why
is little Wayne here? That was weird. Do you want
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to include your age in the interview? No? Do you
want to include your girlfriend the interview? No? Do you
want to include I don't know. You're appreciated if you know,
how about little Wayne? That sounds like a good idea
talk that would say that one to the mirror and
see how you react when you're here in the mirror.
I said this when they gave him the new contract,
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like three months of good behavior, they wanted to get
rid of him. They were tired of him, between the
antics with the other team, between the antics with his
own team, between the people he was hanging out out with,
and the video of him with a woman and what
looked like cocaine. They were like, we're done. And he's like,
(05:53):
you know what, No, no, no, I'm better. I'm good now.
I'm not healthy, but I'll worked out on the side,
I'll act like I'm a leader. Then he sits down
four weeks into the season and chooses to What he
said essentially is telling your wife when she asks you,
do I look fat in these pants? You say, you
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know what you do. You should go to the gym,
You should eat less carbs, you should drink more water
because you look overweight. Honey. He didn't just call out
Eli Manning. Go back in listen to the interview. He
talks about the energy that they need and that they
(06:35):
need heart. What he's saying is we don't play hard,
we don't practice hard. Our team has no heart, no courage.
He said, who he said, and then he and then
he said, our two times Superowl champion quarterback stinks and
our new coach doesn't get me the ball isn't scheming
(06:59):
to get me the football. The craziest part about his
spat with honesty right, it was almost as if remember
eighties movies where they would invest they would they would
get a guy, they would see question in the room.
They shine some white light on him and the guy
would start sweating and all of a sudden, like the
(07:19):
white light would make him tell the truth. Remember that
like spy movies. Now they inject you with something you
just can't tell a lie. Was. He was asked whether
he was proud of their record, and he said yes,
So he lied about whether he's practiced. Nobody's proud of
being one in three one three time. Now the one
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in four after Graham Gono makes a fifty million yard
field goal to beat them. So he lies about being
proud of the record, but then tells the utter truth
from his perspective about all that's wrong in the Giants organization. Huh,
(08:00):
say what, But that's because Odell Beckham Jr. Isn't a
different guy since he got paid. Because money doesn't change you,
it just makes you more of who you are. Oh,
that guy's a dB since since winning the lottery. Now
he was a dB before he won the lottery. Now
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it's just a lot more obvious. That's what took place.
And anyone defending him has not only never played on
a in team sports, but they probably haven't worked in
the corporation. Right. Go, All we do is we want
athletes to be honest. Okay, not to the detriment of
(08:45):
others who you work with, who you need in order
to help you succeed. Imagine that, and this is not
the truth, but imagine if somebody said, hey, godln you worked.
What is it like to work at Fox? Oh? You know,
it's it's great. You know. John Ramos peshes the wrong
button like three times an hour. Ryan Music, He's constantly
(09:08):
worried about where he's getting married in like three years.
Dan Buyer, he's on Twitter instead of updated like might
like again, these things aren't the truth. But if they
were the truth, imagine how that would go over, Like, Oh,
finally some honesty. Yeah. Those are the people you work with.
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Those are the people who make you look better. Those
are the people who are going to help you. I mean,
you couldn't do that at home. My wife's allows it cooks.
She's not a particularly good wife, and she's usually too
tired when I come to bed. Oh but I'm super
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happy being married. That's what he That's what he did me.
I'm great. I've never been better, best shaped my life.
You know, I'm a good provider. That's what Odell Beckham Jr.
Did Said committed, and that's why his head coach is
furious with him. Curious And if you want to base
(10:13):
his success based upon his productivity, which he was productive
yesterday against the Panthers, fine, but the harm he has
done has been irreparable to the Giants. Be sure to
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(10:33):
and the I Heart Radio app. There's a lot about
the Raiders taking over um the Stubbhub Center, which is
in cars, which is kind of the home of Raider fandom,
and that appeared accurate. A matter of fact, the Chargers
really struggled early on the game opening drive score three points,
but then they were struggling to get things going. That's
(10:54):
when they found our next guest on a kind of
a botched play, and he took it the yards the
house broke the game open and changed. The final score
is twenty six to ten, but the Raiders got a
touchdown when they weren't set offensively. The Chargers missed an
extra point um and so it was a lot bigger
whooping than twenty to ten. Austin Neckler joins us in
(11:16):
the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. What has
this been like to play home games in the NFL
but to not have uh an overwhelming support of the fans? Yeah,
first off, one from having me, but uh, the support,
you know, it's Uh, it's been it's been a clonal
as far as you know, the fans depot. It's not
(11:38):
I feel I was, Uh, it's kind of I kind
of talked about it the other day that what you've
mentioned the we're kind of in the heart of you know,
Raiders fans, and so we knew the state was probably
all black like it was, and so you know, it's
just come to the team to come together even more.
And then you're not because we're playing by teammates enough
of your fans ever got enough fans? You know. It's
(12:01):
it's funny because what I've been told is that, look,
look this year, second year. You've seen this before. It
wasn't as bad last year because the Raiders were, you know,
in last place by the time you guys got them
at home and beat them. But then a lot of
the a lot of the new guys, especially against the Niners,
they ran out and they were like wait, what, Like
it was the new guys that had to make the adjustment.
What do you tell them? He's gonna let him know
(12:23):
how it's gonna be. And you know, that's just the
reality of you know, where we're gonna be dealing with
and so come out. Hey. Like you said, we're playing
for each other saying yeah, especially for you know, a
guy like Durwan, you know he's got for say, they
got all the hands and everything. You're coming really have,
you know, a stadium full of all own fans, you know.
(12:44):
So it's it's an adjustment for definitely all our new
guys and for us in general. You marked down the
field and you get a fel goal, you start kind
of feeling good, your defense gets get to stop, you
get it back and you punt. You punt the next
I think it was three possess Sians and then Philip
gets the ball snapped him and he drops it and
(13:04):
then he picks it up and there's a rush come
from left hand side. You're just out there. It's a
screen pass. Was it was that what you were supposed
to be or did you just kind of make it
up on the fly. No. Yeah, I was supposed to
be out there and there was a hot hot pass
right now, it's a hot route. So he was supposed
to do it outlight away, but like you said, he
bombed it and ended up taking a little longer and
it was a little closer than he said, you know,
(13:26):
ended up working out. It's first in town from the
Oakland forty four. You catch the ball and for people
who haven't seen it, you make one cut to your
right and you've got a couple of linemen clearing the way,
plus two raiders run into each other. Like as soon
as you cut to the right, did you see the house?
Did you know that this this thing all of a
sudden's gonna open up? You know? I catch it right? Yeah,
like you said, you know they ran into each other
for everything. Keenan out and actually had nice block down
(13:48):
two just get that touchdown Buck and then passed. Then
there was just green dass has Antonio Gates told you guys,
you're all crazy for going to training camp, right He
he didn't go to camp. He comes out, he still
catch football. He's probably gonna be looking at you, like,
what were you guys doing for that month and a half? Unpence?
You know you could do that? Tell you guys, developer
(14:11):
a little different boat. Austin Ekeler joining us in the
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports. Trader your guy that
they split out wide. Um they even I saw the
play Where was Melvin scored on a touchdown or it
was the first down he lined up his fullback. When
was the last time the Melvin Gordon does Has he
lined up at fullback ever before? I don't think he's
ever done that in the game. No, no, So that
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was really a little different package to give a defense
a little different look. Yeah, for for people to see
they were they were going forward on. I'm gonna say
it was fourth in short and you guys give me
either call the time out or come out, and you
were back at running back. Melvine's at fullback. It was
just a quick handoff to Melvin he got the first time.
A matter of fact, the CBS announcer said, that's probably
the first time Melvin Gordon's ever lined up at fullback.
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So's some creativity with how you guys are being used.
Have you have you hit the potential for it? Because
you guys have an InCred doable group in terms of
the weaponry, and obviously not having Hunter has changed kind
of this group. Um, but seeing all the different places
they've lined you up, have you guys yet to hit
your peak level of production offensively? You know, I think
(15:13):
we're gonna keep sending up by leave, you know, so
we can't get scheming so I think on the level
of production is gonna keep going up because we're gonna
keep changing. So we're gonna give defensive bunch of different looks,
and I think he's gonna have a lot of success
with it. Um you okay with giving away carries to
Melvin Ingram. I don't know about that one difference, but
I would looking back like, I don't know, yeah, so
(15:36):
I so I It's like, look, you've got two really
good running backs back there, and then they bring in
your you know, your defensive end in to try and
score touchdown. I'm sure Fantasmalers weren't very happy about that one,
you know, like I said, once I was back, Hey,
we worked out in practice. I thought it was gonna
be a good player just and then working that one.
Austin Neckler joining us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on
(15:58):
Fox Sports Radio. How this happened for you? How how
did you go from a guy who, you know, most
of America hadn't heard of in college too, you know,
now almost like a household name in the league. Right,
Like Western State in Colorado? Where is Western State in Colorado.
It's a little mountain town up in the Rocky Mountains,
about five thousand people at the town about people in
(16:21):
the school? When did when did you know you were
going to stick in the league? Um? Shoot, I'd say
been way through the first season. As when physically I
so like I could play at this level, and you know,
I didn't know how much success I would have or
anything like that. But that's kind of the factor when
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you come into the league. You're not sure physically, especially
in my my situation, come from a smaller school. Say okay,
that's that's the biggest things character physically playing this league.
About halfway through his lines like yeah, I could physically
do this, and then since then I've been able to
make some place here and then you know I'm not back.
You're from Eating Colorado right now? How you pronounce it? Yeah? Okay?
So what's in eating is the tiny town's like five
(17:04):
thousand people a lesson five thousand people? What's what's in it? Like?
What where's the place where everybody goes to hang on?
A little farm town? You know, big on the high
school sports. We had always had a great support from
the from the local town. But that's just one of
those times that everyone knows everyone and you know, kind
of my group that I grew up with. We played
all the sports together, so we're really close from the
(17:26):
tight now that helps us all out. Actually, one of
my tight ends is a long snapper for the Raiders
that we played together, exaculated together, and so that was
pretty cool to you know, see him on the field yesterday.
That's pretty amazing. Two guys from a town of town
of people that that made it to the NFL. So
you didn't you still tell me like is there a
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main street in town? And is there one place where
you guys can have pizza burgers? Like what one stop?
My wife's my wife? My wife from a one stop?
Like town? Is it a sonic? Is there what a burger?
What's the what's the what's the joint? Where you go
from from finn I think they have McDonald's and a
taco Bell, But then they have all like the mom
and pop shops, you know, a little stores for no
(18:10):
parel things like that, and then like little restaurants here
and there. It's actually they put a hotel in the
it's a long ago a highway and so like one
of those towns, like she's I having along the highway
and look around like who was there here like one
of those Now is there is there a sign up
for you yet? Did they go this? Eating eating at
in Colorado home of bust Neckler? Took it, took took
(18:31):
a ball forty four yards to the house against the Raiders.
Probably that because we have I don't know if you
know mission right. You know he's playing I think out
in Tampa. You know he's been playing for like eight
or nine years. You just had a couple of signs up. Uh.
I remember when I went back one time he had
to sign up. He had doing some business in the
(18:51):
town something like that. I don't know if I got
one yet? Not not yet. Well, well, there's there's still
plenty plenty of time. Look, you guys are three in two.
The two losses again two undefeated teams that the you know,
the Chiefs and the Rams. Now you get a chance
against the Browns team. Uh, that's one a game that
they're two and two. What what's got to change with
this team to get you to where you beat the
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good teams? Thins our consistency, you know, that's that's the
thing you hear out throughout the entire league, but it's
it's true thing. Whoever can be more consistent on that day,
it's probably gonna win the game. And you know, we have,
like you talked about earlier, we have the tools to
you know, to be an explosive offense and things of
that nature. And so it's just gonna come down to
(19:32):
ab be making the plays on that day. Hey, continued
health and success. They traveled to Cleveland. Thanks for joining us,
and we'll give a big shout out to everybody eating Colorado. Hey,
I appreciate it. Man. You ever going be sure to
catch live editions. So the Doug Dot Leap Show week
days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. We kind of
set it up for you Friday. As Connors a striker,
like a stand up striker and a counterpuncher. Whereas a baby,
(19:55):
he'll take you to the ground like he is a grappler,
like bye bye. You know, basically my birth his dad
was and that's how he's And there's actually video of
him wrestling a bear as a kid. That's a bear cub,
but it's still a bear. I thought it was awesome.
Although I thought it was awesome, um, but then everyone
(20:19):
all anyone's talking about is the brawl afterwards, Right, this
is the power of the image of a guy going
into the stands and people from the stands coming out
of the stands and climbing over a cage. And by
the way, the whole idea of a cage is to
keep people out or to keep people in that cage.
There's been no bigger, better sale for not building a wall.
(20:45):
Then what just happened at UFC, Right, don't keep people
out and don't keep people in doesn't work. But um,
I understand that people don't like the grappling style, true
wrestling style, get a guy to the ground, make him
tap out style. It can be. It's hard. It doesn't
translate well on TV. It's one of the reasons that wrestling,
(21:08):
which is one of the original five core sports the
Olympics White, it struggles to be on TV. It's an
amazing sport. You ever had a kid might just son
did it for a year. I want to put him
back in it. You ever had a kid do it?
Like man? That's the It's an incredible sport. Incredible, but um,
but it's it's hard to televise. It's hard to watch
(21:29):
because you can't see or understand some of the moves
or some of the counterattacks and all the stuff going on.
But like he checks every other box though for a
guy who should be a villain, right, Like he's Muslim,
he's Russian. Now he fights a style nobody likes and
he'll go into the stands. But I put the blame
(21:53):
for that one on Dana White and on Conno McGregor. Right,
like this, you talk about a dude enough his religion,
his family, his country, like you can do in boxing.
Guys are all in on it right, just the way
(22:14):
to bring attention to the fight. You get a hardcore
Russian dude whose dad was a grappler and he's been
trained like since birth to be this dude, be this guy.
They're not wired like normal human is. Like ha, they
can't laugh it off. That's why he went into the stands.
(22:36):
And you may think that looks cool, like, oh, that's
that's awesome. No, not awesome. Imagine some multimillionaire billionaire sitting
up close and their wife, you know, tears an achilles
tendon or you know, gets get people fall into her
or somebody gets even worse dies. Not funny then not funny,
(23:06):
But that's you know, Dana, let Connor do all this
talking you know, show up late for a press conference
where Habib leaves like he's not in on all that
he's a fighter. He is. He is like like a like, look,
I'm an anti pit bull guy, not because I have
any negative feelings about dogs, but some pit bulls have
been trained through the years to fight. Is there natural
(23:29):
innate instinct they can't help themselves, And that's what he is.
He's basically a human pit bull. Do you hear him
talk afterwards? I mean, sorry, he's apologetic, He's like, but
you know, I just I couldn't take it watching Habib
go into the crowd, thinking, holy cow, somebody might be
(23:50):
really hurt or somebody could die like he didn't even
mean to. But he's a trained weapon. Fox Sports Radio
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R to listen live. The idea that the Philadelphia Eagles,
(24:10):
as soon as they got Carson Wentz back, would maintain
the level of focus and really dominance as they had
last year before he got hurt, and even the Super
Bowl they were able to win when he got hurt.
He's completely obtuse to the reality of sport, the reality
of life. Yes, they had players injured whom they have
(24:34):
mostly gotten back from injury this year. And yes, they
still on paper have a dynamic front seven defensively, and
they have some good pieces offensively. And Carson Wentz when right,
should have won the m v P last year, but
he's only in his third year and he's coming off
of knee surgery. They did employ Joe j g I,
(24:58):
who the Dolphins jettison mid season, and they got the
best of j j I. Why, he was trying to
prove the entire league wrong. They had a whole team
full of people that was trying to prove everybody wrong.
They're playing that underdog card. That underdog card is great
when you're actually the underdog. Now you're the favorite, and
(25:18):
it's different. You don't sneak up on anybody. You don't
have anything more to prove. You may say I got
something to prove, but you really don't already proved it.
They won a Super Bowl with one arm tied behind
their back. Nick Foles is their quarterback, right, what is
ther Bowl? So? And they beat the Patriots. However, you
(25:41):
want to look at that Patriots team not playing. Malcolm
Butler and Brandon Cooks got hurt in the first quarter,
didn't play. That doesn't matter. They beat the Mighty Patriots
in the super Bowl without their starting quarterback. What will
they do when they have their quarterback back? The answer
is losing home to the Vikings, a Vikings team that
is massively depleted by injuries. But this is the shell
(26:03):
of the like and the Vikings. Dan Bailey missed two
kicks before you hit the game winner. It wasn't like
Dan Bailey was like fifty four forty two. Like damn
they lost to like look Tipper Caps. Sometimes you lose
to a guy got a hot kicker. They cover completely public.
No Vikings won the game. Vikings beat them. Vikings beat
their ass. Do you know why? Because they are everybody's
(26:24):
biggest game. It doesn't mean that you didn't get up
for Eagles games or to play the link and play
in Philadelphia in the past. But you gotta admit is
different now, Right? Who called the game? Don't call the game?
Were the broadcasters for the game? Monte guess? Go ahead? Right? Music?
(26:48):
Was it Bucking Ackman? I believe it was Joe Buck
and Troy Aikman. Do you know why, Because the number
one team goes the number one game. The number one
game doesn't usually involve UH Minnesota and phil Adelphia. It
just doesn't. It doesn't unless the Philadelphi Eagles are the
defending Super Bowl champions and now they're the number one.
(27:10):
Get they get, They get Bucket Eggman and Aaron Andrews.
They get the first team. They also got the vikings.
They got everybody's attention, because the last thing you want
is to not only get beaten, but get beaten when
everybody is paying attention, and by the defending Super Bowl
champions who want to run their mouths a little bit.
We don't want that. Oh yeah, by the way, last
(27:31):
time we came in here, we lost the NFC Championship
game with kase Keenum. You you make you can act.
Unless we're the same, we get the same level, and
that's fine. The rest of the league does not view
you the same. You are not the underdog, and it
is the hunt. Hunted is different than the hunter. It
(27:54):
is completely different in terms of your level. If you
go to you go to Vegas, right, and if you're
the one guy who's smart enough to get up, get
a league get up five hundred bucks and then take
four hundred off the table, put in your pocket and
go like or give it to somebody walk away. You're not.
And then you're just playing with house money. You're not
gonna plays tight with that house money. You're not. But
(28:16):
when you play with your own money, when your rents
on the line, you are tight. You are nervous. Your
attention to every car being flipped over, every every different
tell at a table, your chip count slow, you're paying
attention to everything. I'd love to say that the best
of the best they win, and they just keep that
level of focus, Like there's a reason that the Patriots
(28:37):
move on from guys and they keep getting guys you've
never heard of. But if you thought the Philadelphi Eagles
were gonna be the exact same team, and I will
grant you injuries, really to all Sean, that was a
big thing. Carson Wentz coming off in a c L.
You're not the same right away. It takes you, takes
you six seven games, maybe even a year before you're
actually back. But that offensive line is not good, not
(29:01):
blocking people. And if you can and if you can
uh handle their pass rush, their defensive backfields not good,
but more than anything, it's just a different world when
you're wearing that crowd, when you're walking in and you
got what everybody else wants, They're coming at you a
little bit harder, they're preparing a little bit more, and
(29:25):
it matters at a different a little bit higher level
than it matters to them. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon
eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app Let's Get the Trend. Dilfer, who's
a Super Bowl champion frequent contributor to the show. He
joints us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
(29:46):
We're just talking about Philadelphia, the Eagles, and how, um
it's differently in the Super Bowl champions and how people
prepare for you differently. And you may not think you're
preparing differently, but you are. In fact. How much does
it change when you win the A game? Yeah, I
think that's a big part of it. Done. I do
think you know, you have a giant target on your
chest each week, people have studied you all off season. Um,
(30:09):
there's an extra level of preparation. But I also think
you know that those Eagles players and coaches had a
very different experience this offseason. They had access to more stuff,
they had more distractions, people pouring perfume on them everywhere
they went, and just human nature, as you're gonna start
believing it, and you're gonna start believing that you're gonna
come back the next season, and it's just gonna happen
(30:32):
all over again. And so I think that's why it's
so hard for these teams, um, when they have success
to come back the next year and match the previous
year success. Outside of the Patriots, and I think what
the Patriots have done, what every team needs to do
a better job of the modeling as they reinvent themselves
each year and they don't rest on the previous year's
successes and they know, um very well that the challenges
(30:56):
are even are even more um difficult following year after
having success. I think all these things add up and
the Eagles just have not handled the success of last
year very well. Okay, but now what about in terms
of their play? Why is their offensive line struggling so badly?
You know when you're when? And again I think there's
(31:17):
a lot of reasons, um, but to me. The biggest
thing is they've lost that ability in must run situations.
They can run the ball, but the must run when
everybody knows you're gonna run, that extra physicality, UM, that
ability to look across the line of scrimase we're gonna
we're running it right now if you try to stop us.
(31:37):
I think when you're able to do that, it sets
up all the other things they like to do in
their offense, especially the r p os. They're very big
r PO team. UM teams don't have to honor those
r p o s if there's not the threat of
that UM physicality in the run game. I think that's
the biggest thing I do thing. Since Carson's come back,
he's held the ball a little along too. I don't
see him making his crisp decisions early in play as
(32:00):
I did last year. Part that's probably the limited off season,
limited training camp, UM. But he he seems to be
holding the ball attle bit longer than last year. And
all those things start added up and it looks like
the offensive line is just a disaster, but when really
it's some of it's a sum of a lot of
different things. UM. Let's go to last night Dallas Cowboys
(32:21):
fourth in one from the UH Texans forty three yard
line and Jason Garrett decides to punt. What was your
reaction when he made that decision. I understood it. You know,
I'm not saying they're freaking out about it. I understood
why I did it. You know, they're trying to create
an identity as a football team of defense, first, controlled
(32:42):
the ball, built around Ezekiel and the opportunist, opportunistic in
the passing game. So it fits kind of what they're
trying to be. Now. Personally, I'm a big believer in
this new you know, what is it momentum of going
for it on a lot of fourth downs and the
numbers are in your favor, and I think it's part
that time of the game, that part of the field. Um, Personally,
(33:04):
I think he should have gone for it, and I
bet you he's regretting the decision the sporting But I
also also understood in context of what the Cowboys are
this year, why they decided to punt and pan and
try to play these Yeah, And it wasn't like the
Texans were marching up and down the field. And I
do think that people don't realize maybe forty three yard line.
(33:25):
I here's what I take from it. You and me,
we probably go for it, right. We got a special play,
We had a special group of plays for just that
sort of situation that we try and execute, and we
we go for it. On the other hand, if you
don't get it, you're one or two completions away from
losing the game, as opposed to if you kick it
and you do it right now a sudden you're you know,
(33:46):
two or three plays from getting the football back and
winning the game. Yeah. And I was watching our buddy
kin Housel back today on um TV, and he made
a great argument for White upun it. They've been thinking
in the run game they were getting man hands up front,
they are the edges were being set by the Texans.
So when you're seeing that as a head coach, one, Okay,
we're not gonna run the ball. We just lost yardage
(34:07):
on third down. Okay, let's bootlet it's been a hard bootlegging.
They've had a hard time getting back out and breaking contains.
So really all those short yardage plays that you would
go to, you know, the way the game's going, it's like,
we're not gonna go out to execute these Okay, well
it's throwing slats receiver. Who who's your big alpha receiver.
(34:27):
They can go and embody up first man and make
the play. So they're kind of I can kind of
understand it more based on how the game was, the
temperament of the game. It seemed to me like, and
I'm sure Jason Garret felt the same way. We're just
getting our butts kid. We have a better chance to
pump this thing down, play good defense and get it
back and good field positions start over again. Dil for
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
(34:50):
Sports Radio. Um, it feels like Derek Carr regressed yesterday.
Am I wrong? Honestly, I have not seen the whole game.
I've just seen highlights. Um. Three end zone interceptions is
three too many? One the lot Like if you play
a season and you throw one interception, enzom, that's a lot. Um,
(35:13):
he's troll them three. I think that's the biggest issue. Uh.
He's a very very gifted passer. UM. I kind of
like what they're trying to do offensively. Um, But it
seems I think Gruden mentioned this about the try too hard.
It seems like there's some anxiety in his game. You
look at the interceptions he's thrown, You look at the
(35:35):
first down interceptions he's thrown, You look at kind of
the situations when they haven't been able to put points
on the board, and it appears to me if there's
a little anxiety in his game, very correctible. I think
he will. He's very talented player, but so far this
season it has not been his best football, and especially
in critical moments. Drew is probably gonna pass Peyton's mark tonight.
(35:56):
How has he been able to do this? Right? You're
not supposed to be able to there will be that
small or that old and be this effective. How has
the Drew Brees thing happened? That's a great question. Um.
I mean, he's the ultimate pro will start there. Um,
you know, the common phenomenator when you talk about the
Mannings and the Bradies and the Rivers and the Breezes
(36:18):
and whoever you want to put on your lists, Um,
they're they're just the ultimate pros. They just out prepare
everybody else. They have a beautiful mind for the game. Um.
I think the synergy he has with Sean Payton has
really helped, and he mentioned that in interview as well
as there's so many people to think and Shawn's one
(36:38):
of them, and just the belief the same tad in
him after his time in San Diego Sean Payton, especially
that symponico relationship he has with the play calling for
all these years. Um, he's obviously very talented, He's a
very gifted pastor. He's a phenomenal foot athlete. I mean,
people don't give enough credit for, especially in his younger years,
what a great athlete he was. Um, and I just
(37:01):
think he's he's one of those passers that kind of
created his own way of doing it and he didn't
try to be like anybody else. He just tried to
be the best version of himself and it has become
a pretty awesome version. I have not been an admiration
for the man and the player has been fun because
you know what I do with the with the youth kid,
with the high school kids too. We use him as
(37:21):
teaching tape like we use Drew Brees as one of
our best examples of how to how to play the game,
how to pass, how to play a position of quarterback.
He just kind of does. He checks every box. There's
thirty layers. If there's thirty boxes checking me in a
great quarterback he checks all three, trying Dilford joining us
in the Doug Galip Show. Fall him on Twitter at
(37:42):
Dilfer's Dimes. Check out the Elite eleven Dot Combinations Premier
Quarterback competition, something that he's run for years. Um speaking
of the young quarterbacks rookies four no, four no yesterday,
who's up? Whose performance was the most impressive of those rookies?
I really like tell Donald play, Uh played, Um, big
(38:02):
boy throws, UM getting full field reads. You know, a
couple of those chunk throws he makes down the field.
He's not staring him down, you know, he's he's looking
away first, he's getting back to the other side of
the field, playing around with safeties with his eyes. You know,
just just some gradual level stuff. And the big boy throws,
I mean that those were Those are some phenomenal throws.
(38:25):
And I like how he's handled the adversity so far
the season. I just like his overall makeup. I just
really believe it's gonna be a superstar, and yesterday you
could see a lot of it. Odell Beckham Jr. I
was critical of him, like, look, dude, you can't. When
you say your team doesn't have energy, that means you
your coach isn't getting your play hard. When you say hard,
you you attack how NFL player's heart like, good luck
(38:46):
with that in the locker room. And then of course
he said, I feel like I'm being schemed out. I'm
not being utilized well. And he said something about Eli
not throwing the ball down field. Look, I don't think
you can utter all of these things, but that's me.
I haven't lived in a n TELL locker room, only
basketball locker rooms. How do you think he was handled
within the locker room? Terrible? I mean it goes against everything, Um,
(39:10):
it goes against everything you want to be as a
as a team player. It just it rips apart the
team dynamics. It creates a bunch of messes for everybody
else to come clean up for you. Now, Monday and
Tuesday days for reflection and um getting better and moving
on to the next week. Monday and Tuesday. Now you're
dealt with having to deal with Odell Beckham stuff. Do
you have an answer for him? You know you're having
(39:32):
to deal with excess media stuff. It's just the big, hot,
stinking pile of you know what when a player becomes
that selfish and and uses that form to express his frustrations. Now,
I think everything he said there's some truth to it
should have been said privately, UM, to management or coaches
(39:53):
or team meetings or something besides a cheesy sit down
with Josina for the world old to see. I just
it was so bad. I was blown away. Um. And
I really like Odell, you know, I've got to know
him over the years, and I really liked the kid. Um.
I thought this was just all bad. I can't think
(40:15):
of any other way of say, Angels all bad. Okay,
But but the naysayer will say, hey, look they went out,
they played, they probably could have won or should have
won the game. Now for fifty seven yard field goal,
what's the big deal. I don't care what the naysayer says.
I've been in the locker room my entire life. I
know all these things play out. It's all bad. There's
not nothing good is going to come out of that. Um.
(40:36):
They may play better. Um, they may do some things
that have nothing to do with that. But being part
of a football team, no matter how good you are,
no matter what your role is, UM, you have to
look at it is something bigger than yourself. If you
get if you're gonna be good. And that had everything
(40:57):
to do with Odell Beckham Jr. Nothing to do with
the team. Doug out the show fox Port Traited. That's
the voice of Trent Dilford. Trent. Aaron Rodgers admittedly played
poorly in the first half two fumbles, but now look
when his fault, they missed five kicks, four field goals
and an extra point. What do you think is going
on with Rogers though, that he got off to such
a bad start. I mean, obviously he's playing banged up.
(41:19):
I think that is a big part of it. Um,
It's it's hard. A lot of quarterbacks are doing it.
But it's hard to be your best when physically you're
not there. Um, they've had some injuries that receiver, so
there's some timing stuff that's going on. I've never been
a believer. I know people talk about how good their
tackles are in past protection. I don't see it. I
(41:41):
don't think they're a great offensive line. I think that
is part of it. Um. But I mean it's Aaron
plays at such a high level. He has set the
bar so high. Um that when it doesn't look the same. Um.
People tend to freak out. Uh. To me, I thought
outside the two fumbles, Uh, it seemed like Aaron To me, Um,
(42:06):
he seemed like he was playing at a very very
high level, especially in the second half. I don't think
this is a reason to panic. I just think that
you know, they're a team, they're an offense that relies
so much on him that as he is off at all, Uh,
it looks much worse than it really is. Great stuff.
(42:27):
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
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