October 24, 2018 • 43 mins
Doug thinks you should blame the Dodgers front office for a controversial pitching change, not Dave a Roberts. He also dives in on the NBA beef between Rajon Rondo and Chris Paul. Packers K Mason Crosby joins the show to talk about his comeback from missing 5 kicks in a loss to the Lions to kicking the game winner against the 49ers one week later.
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Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. What. I
hope you're having a great day. I hope you enjoyed
sports last night. Specifically, no, not Blake Griffin's He dropped
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World Series on the way on Fox and the Boston
Red Sox take a one game to none lead. We'll
start there. We will get you into some National Football
leagu discussion. Mason Crosby, kicker with the Green Bay Packers.
I'm gonna ask him out the Nightmare game where he
missed kick after kick after kick and uh and then
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to come back and hit the game winning kicked. The
very next week, we'll talk with Mason Crosby the Green
Bay Packers. Upcoming the Broncos release swag Kelly. Chad Kelly
now has hit the hit, hit for the cycle. You
ready for it. He's been kicked off of his high school, college,
and pro team. Right. I feel like that's Nucula luch
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level a new another new league record. So we'll get
to some of that and what the NFL has finally
figured out that baseball and basketball figured out a while
back or a while ago, depending on what part of
the country you're listening into. Robert Woods and the Rams
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will join us. Matt Holliday, seven time All Star, a
World Series champ, will get his thoughts on last night,
and Great Co South NFL Films will join us for
his weekly stop. Man, do we got a lot to
get to. Let's begin last night in Boston with the
Red Sox took a one game to none lead and
for the record, Clayton Manning, I mean Clayton Kershaw wasn't
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great in a big spot. Again. Now, sometimes I think
it's going to the well too much with Kershaw, and
he had an outstanding second outing with the but with
the Dodgers against the Brewers and then closed out the
series out of the bullpen. You go to that well
too much. And this is what happens. He gets bat
around four innings, pitched seven hits, five earned runs, He
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walked three, struck out five, struggled some with not just
control but location and pitching, much like real estate is
about location, location, location, still because Chris Sale wasn't great either.
Remember this is Chris sale stud picture for the Red Sox.
He gave up five hits, only three runs, struck out seven,
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but only last four innings as well, and he turned
it over to the Red Sox bullpen, which has been
much blind. It was four. It was five to four
in the seventh inning. The Dodgers had just played a run.
They had bases loaded, made him maccadow with a short
sack fly only plates one run. But this game was
very much hanging in the balance. And though Craig Kimberl
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was yet to be used, and so is Nathan Nevaldi,
the fact is, you tell me what's better to have
a one run lead or to have a four run lead.
So with a one run lead, with one run lead,
Pedro Biaz was in the game at the start of
the bottom of the seventh inning. Now Bias, who is
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right hand, came came in and struck out the first
two batters he faced. Excuse me, he struck out one,
then they intentionally walked another in order in order to
get a double play first and second. Then he struck
out another. She got runners at first and second and
two outs, and Dave Roberts goes to the mound and
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pulls Pedro Bias out because by the book, by the numbers,
by the book, by the numbers, it was better. He
was better going to Alex Wood out of the pen.
Here's what happened. One oh when he swings it drives
walk a left high at day five, a wall god three,
red pitch home warnon, yes, get you a flavor, have
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a Red Sox. Late at eight to four, Edward o'noniez
with the home run, and that was that, right, You
get a four run lead at that point the game.
If Ali comes in and pitch as well, so too
does Craig Kimberrell, and the Red Sox take and take
a one game to none lead the best of seven series.
Remember this is after an inning in which the Dodgers
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had bases loaded with only one out. They only played
in one run, but they were putting pressure on that
Red Sox bullpen. Now bet ten came in against Urus
and it's a ground rule double. They bring in Bias,
he strikes out Moreland, they intentionally walk Martinez Andrew uh
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what's name a Zander Bogart's strikes out swinging, and both
Bogarts and Moreland look completely overmatched by Bias. So of
course they bring in Wood and instead of having lefty
lefty as Devers was up for the Red Sox, Eduard
o'nionez from the right side of the plate comes in. Now,
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for the record, if you wanted to go full analytics,
if you really want to do it by the books,
you could do what the Raised did earlier this year,
what we've seen Joe Madden doing the regular season. That's
you could have sticked Bias out in right field, and
then if they're gonna pinch hit for devas with Neon Yez,
switch him and put Alex would in right field. In baseball,
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there is this where you take a picture out of
the game, you can't put him back in. You're right,
you can't put him back in. But if you take
him off the mound and switch positions, you can put
him back in. Still, it's the idea of going by
the book, going by the numbers when all you have
to do is watch and whether it was Morland or
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Xander Bogart's, they look completely overmatched against Bias. And sadly
this is this is the case in baseball. We have
taken gut feel out of it. We go by the
What does the book say, Well, damn it, We're going
by the book. Here's Dave Roberts explaining his decision. Deva
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is really good against the right hander, and to get
a guy off the bench, and Nunez I really liked
Alex in that spot. I did so um whether they
were going to hit Devas with a lead or go
to the bench and go with Nunez. I still liked
Alex in that spot, and he hit a three run
home run. Now, part of it is it's like surgery, right.
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Any time you go to the pen, you run the
risk of a guy being off his game or a
guy struggling with the magnitude of the moment. Bias had
clearly settled in. He comes in and immediately strikes out Moreland.
The magnitude of the moment was not too much for him.
He was hitting his spots and he was thrown in
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the mid to high nineties and so every time you
go in, you run the risk of an Alex Would.
We think, based upon the numbers, Alex you like Alex
would in that spot. But you have no idea how
he's feeling on a Tuesday night in October on the
road in Boston when he thinks he's gonna fix face
a lefty and steady faces devers. You miss by that
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much because you're not quite there. You're not perfect in
this whole idea. Well, you know, we asked him for
the game. And what guy I asked before a World
Series game is gonna say, na skip pass over me.
I'm not locating today, No, thank you. But I don't
think Dave Roberts wanted to do that. Like Dave Roberts
is a lifeer baseball guy. Remember, Dave Roberts stole the
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most important base in the history of the Boston Red
Sox when they're down three games to none against the
New York Yankees. But in order to get his job
and keep his job, he had to please his bosses.
And this is where it's relatable to all of us,
right that sometimes you gotta do something because your boss
says that's what you're gonna do. Yeah, I don't know.
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My gut tells me this is not the good idea. Well,
I guess what. I'm the boss. It's a good idea.
That's exactly what happened here. Precisely what happened here. It's
not that Dave Robberts doesn't believe in the numbers. It's
not that Dave Robberts didn't think lefty lefty generally. But
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Dave Roberts could see what all of us saw, which
is Bayas was dealing locating, and there is and this
doesn't you don't see this by the book. But if
Bias comes up and he's facing a left hander as
a righty, knowing the numbers say go to Alex Wood
and you stick with him. You don't think that pumps
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some confidence into Bias's blood. Of course it does, but
the numbers don't tell you that. But this isn't about
Dave Roberts being completely sold out to the numbers. It's
selling out to what his boss wants, because that's how
he got his job instead of Din Mattingly, and that's
how he'll keep his job. And that's sadly the state
of baseball. Andrew Friedman is the general manager. He comes
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from the Tampa Bay Rays. They go by the numbers,
and that's exactly what they're doing here. It becomes over
managing and paralysis by analysis. Just watch the game. How's
bias pitching? Great? Then don't do anything. Don't do anything.
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Would that happen in basketball? Guy hits two jump shots? Hey,
you gotta go get him? Why I don't like this
matchup as much? But that happened in football? Man, they
cannot cover Julio Jones. Well, they change the matchup. They
put Richard Sherman on him. Let's stop throwing to Julio Jones. No,
you make them. You make as much as numbers may
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tell you. Hey, maybe it's time to do something else.
Your gut has to weigh at least of it. That's
why it's important that you played. If you don't want
any sort of relatable if you don't want any sort
of feeling of understanding of the game, higher, damn robot.
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But we've made robots out of smart baseball people. Tal
Aaron Boone got the job. Dave Roberts got the job. Listen,
just manage he goes, and we'll manage the game for you.
When the numbers say, make a change, you make a change,
and that game went from winnable to unwinnable with one
ill fated decision. Because the truth is that if he
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left Bias in there and he said, you know the
number said Alex would But I also knew that if
I put wood in, they'd hit a right They hit
a righty against him, and I'm watching Bayaz and he
was pitching. Great. We see this with starting pictures. All
the time. Guy is dealing, and so instead of letting
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him come out to start the next inning, we pull
him because the book says, based upon this number of
pitches against this hitter, let him pitch a guy to
a guy because the old what's the worst thing that
could happen actually happened when they made the change. This
is what happens in relationships. You're gonna do something for
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your wife which you know is wrong that you shouldn't
do with your girlfriend or your boyfriend, your husband, and
you do it in your job all the time. I
don't want to do this. I know it's not the
right thing, but this is how I get to keep
my job because if I'm wrong, I will take the blame.
But the truth is, this is why I got the job.
My boss told me to do it. Be sure to
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catch live editions of The Doug got Leap Show week
days in noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. How many years
do you think Mason Crosby has played for the Green
Bay Packers music? What do you think? I'm gonna go? Nine? Nine? Nine? Uh? John, John,
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what are you gonna? What are you gonna? What are
you gonna get? Say? Twelve? Twelve years? Twelve years? Yes? Okay? Um,
Mason Crosby joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Mason, what's the correct answer? Is correct?
Twelve is correct? Oh? Wow? Wow? That is really Look
at ramost walking or walking around. Yeah he is. He
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is absolutely celebrating. It's a really kind of amazing. Uh.
There's there's like this weird world of kickers where you know,
Cody Park you whatever. I mean, He's been on several
different teams, Dolphins last year, Bears this year, who knows
where he'll be next Year's signed a one year, big
money deal. So many other guys kind of bounce around
with exception of you, uh, justin Tucker. Um, I'm trying
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to thank us Gostkowski right like that, those are the
only three now that seemingly have a home and aren't
leaving anywhere. What's the secret to longevity in one place?
Oh man, I wish uh I knew, uh I could
give you some insight to a secret, But I think
it's it was just being consistent, um, you know, showing
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up every day on and off the field and trying
to be the be a consistent uh you know person
in the locker room with the team, with your teammates,
and uh, you know, going out on a daily basis
on the field and you know, doing your job at
a high level and being able to do handle you know,
six sess and you know and adversity. Um, you know,
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you you just kind of get connected with with the
people in the building and uh in the community and
all those things. And yeah, I think you know obviously
you know athletics, you've seen it now. We've been lucky
enough here in Green Bay we've had a very consistent
you know front office and uh you know head coach
and coaching staff. So I think that helps as well.
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But uh, you know, in athletics, you're just uh you
get comfort level and you feel you know, feel good
and you have your you know, you have your guys,
and I think that, uh, that's definitely a part of
it as well. So, um, you look at the places
that you mentioned, the guys who have longevity. Uh, that's
probably a big factor of it as well. Is is
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having a comfort level with uh, with the people in
the organization, coaches, front office, um, you know, etcetera. They're
just um, you know, trusting and knowing that that we're
gonna do our job every day. Making them making of
helps to write, like you know, like you still you
do have to there is other things important on the continuum,
but making them helps. I remember, I think it was
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your first your first preseason game. Didn't you have like
a fifty two yard or against the Steelers? Was that
my misremembering my impressive Yeah? Um so so so okay,
so process if you can, I draw like this is
your first kick as a pro and you're a six
round draft picking. One of the things that's interesting about
the mercurial world of kickers is a lot of times
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guys are better in their second or their third spot,
right because the pressure, especially guys are draft there a
lot of pressure on you to perform, um, do you
remember what it was like to line up that first
time fifty two yards away Hinesfield kick a kick a
field goal, I do, yeah, you know it. I was
you know obviously, and I was in a battle for
the for the job there. Um you know, had to
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had a good uh you know, a good position since
I was drafted, but you know, they put us through
the ring or we I was competing with Dave Rayner,
and I just remember you I remember going out there
for that kick and just you know, feeling feeling the
freedom to just swing away and uh know that, um,
you know whatever whatever, you know, however the chips were
gonna fall, I'm gonna I'm gonna just go out there
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and swing and make sure that, uh that I had
a good solid ball. And I think at the time
when I hit that fifty two yard or um, you know,
obviously it was preseason, but I think I tied tied
the longest field goal in hines Field or something like that.
I think it's been it might have been broken now,
but uh yeah, that was that was a big moment.
And and you know, every kick like that. And I
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remember the first game of my regular season, my of
the regular season there against the Eagles that same same year,
I I kicked the fifty three yard or was my
first field goal in the NFL as well. Uh you know,
uh there in Lambeau. So that uh, those those are
memories you know, twelve years later that you still stick
with me, and um, you know, well, I'll never forget
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those moments. And of course you guys want a Super
Bowl that year. So but you so you've shown that
pressure doesn't you know, press doesn't really ratty you. So
what what went wrong? Um? Well segue And I'm just like, look,
I'm not trying to make it all Debbie Downer, but
I do you know, how do you how do you
go from being one of the most consistent kickers in
the NFL to just having one of those days against
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the Vikings where nothing goes your way? Yeah, That's that's
what it felt like. Yeah, just nothing. Um, It's like
nothing I've ever felt or you know, been been involved
in where I pick a line felt you know good
obviously wearing a dome. So I'm just uh, you know,
take my steps on the line that I that I
felt good about, and uh it honestly, as I look
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at the film, all this stuff is like did I
when I was kicking from the left hash and I
think I was on the right hash Like it was,
did I have a bout of vertigo in that game?
I mean it literally all those as as I watch it,
That's that's almost like the way I would have to
explain it, because it just felt like I pick a line,
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I'd commit to the kick, all the things, and it
just every strike, every ball was just slightly off and
h and every bad possible thing that could happen went wrong.
So yeah, I I chalked that one up to I've
done this for such a long time, I could have
never imagined a game like that, and uh uh it was.
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It was by far, Yeah, my worst performance. Uh gosh,
even when I started sports. You know, I can't look
back at pee weee sports and think of a of
a worse, worse performance that I've ever had. Of course,
truro We learned that it was about the laces being out. Yeah,
you know, I wish I could, Yeah, I wish there
were something it was something I could dissect in the
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film that that was the case, But that was it
was a strange one. It was it was like, yeah,
it was just a nightmare that that just kind of
kept going. So unfortunately, I had a lot of attempts
at game, and uh I just kind of kept snowballing. Okay,
but but you you haven't you've never thrown your holder
or your long snapper under the bus, you know. But
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but in reviewing, it was it all you you know, honestly,
you know. The tough part there is the last kick
that I made. Um, you know, we ended up kind
of rushing out there because we decided to go for
a field goal and they actually didn't get a kicking
ball and so we actually kicked a quarterbacks ball that
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you know was laces straight back they got turned and
I made that one. So um yeah, you know it
was It's unexplainable, honestly, and uh it's one of those
days that I was happy to be done with and
uh you know, obviously moving on a week and two
weeks now just to be passed, but uh uh yeah,
it was. It was strange and um you know, I yeah,
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i I've never I've never put anything over the top
on anyone else. I know that I have to do
my job at high level all the time, but uh,
you know, it's uh, it was it was an interesting one,
and um, you know we're we're continually working hard every
day to make sure that nothing like that ever happened. Okay,
but if if you write a if you write a script,
it couldn't been scripted any better to come down to
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a game winning kick the next thing. Now, look, it
was a it's a twenty seven yarder, But are those
Are those really harder? Are they easy? Like? I don't know,
There's there's gotta be something to like if you kick
a fifty two yarder and you miss it, people like,
well it's a fifty two yarder, you know, seven yarder.
When you had the yip maybe the yips the week before,
how amazing is uh? You know that the turnaround in
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just one week, you got another opportunity to show your
team you belong. Yeah, you know, like you said, opportunity.
I was so thankful to have that that chance and
all the opportunities I had in that game, a lot
of big kicks, um, you know throughout that game. And yeah,
I mean I had a fifty one yarder on that
Monday night, uh Monday night game that Uh, as I
went out there, I'm just like, well this is kind
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of this is kind of it. You better, you know,
just swing free and hit the hit a good ball here,
because uh, you know these uh, these are the types
of kicks you have to make to to kind of
get the confidence everyone back, you know, kinda al right,
he's uh, he's past it. And so knocking that one
through was great. And so yeah, I had confidence, uh
you know, uh going into that game as I you know,
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as I how I approached it through the week. I
felt really solid with my preparation. And then yeah, the
twenty seven yard or it's just just pick a line
right down the middle and just just rip it, just
hit it hard. I felt like, you know, our time
on it was really fast. Uh you know, operation was good,
protection was good. They came, they rushed really hard. I
almost got hitting the legs, you know by some of
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the San fran guys. But uh but yeah, I knew
as long as I just just got it off and
got it quick, uh, we we'd have no issues there.
So I'm thankful for Aaron and uh and Devonte on
that one for getting us, getting us as as close
as possible. So h so it made it a chip shot. Yeah,
and and Aaron, of course, being a solid friend, put
his arm around you the week before, and uh, and
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and then you paid him back with the game winner
against the Niners. Doug Gotlie show Fox Sports trading Mason
crossby Packers. Our guests Graham Gono joined us, and he
wasn't bragging because it was in fact true. Apparently kicked
a seventy three yard that was called back as a penalty.
In high school. You had what's what's your bragging kicker
back in the day, I kicked it from the parking
lot story. Um, let's see, you know I I haven't
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kicked I haven't kicked seventy one yard or seventy three
yarder in a game. But uh yeah, my my longest
set I've kicked with a snap hold operation. Um, you know,
just goofing around before a game is is seventy one yards.
So um, you know did that a few times in college.
Uh here in Lambeau pre game, you know I've stretched
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it back out the sixty five. So that's uh, I
think if the right conditions were there, uh, sixty five
would be doable. Good good conditions this week in l A.
Those are you know, real grass field. It's it's not
a dome, although we know you and domes maybe don't
don't get along, you like, give me the nasties playing outside.
I'm okay with a Yeah, Mason Crosby joined us. Wait,
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you're now you're getting this custom cleat thing, right you guys.
You guys can't wear custom cleats in the game, but
pre game and then everybody tweets out some sort of
what's your custom cleats you're wearing. Yeah, so this year
I'm gonna wear I'm gonna wear a couple had the
Vince Lombardi Cancer Foundation has made made up of a
couple of pairs for me. And then my my mom's
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organization down in Georgetown, Texas is uh, the Locker Foundation,
and there they she actually had students at the local
schools there do a competition and they they mocked up
a pair of cleats that I sent down, uh with
the Locker logo and all the stuff on it. So
I'll be, uh, I'll be rocking on you know, both
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those pairs at some point later on in this Uh,
in this season. One of the things that kickers have
is they have the ability to kind of be wallflowers
to see, you know, what's what's really going on with
the team. Take the temperature of the Green Bay Packers.
How would you characterize, uh, kind of the mojo of
the team heading into this battle against the L A Rams. Yeah,
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I mean you you said the word battle. I mean
I think this team has shown that throughout this this year. Uh,
you know, obviously from the first game there in Chicago
coming back and getting that win. Um, pretty much honestly
every game that we've been in just you know, we've
had some adversity, UM, some adverse situations that we've had
to battle back from and uh and find ways to win. Unfortunately,
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some of those didn't go the right way. But you know,
I think this team has has the makeup and as
a chemistry to to just find a way to to
battle through adversity and find ways to to not let
it be overwhelming and get us down and um, you know,
you know, get into that hole. So I think our
our biggest thing is that trying to start fast, try
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to get get on the field and get this thing
rolling a little bit quicker. Because our our second half
of games of have been exceptional. I mean, our our
two minutes stuff has been excellent. So we just need
to find that formula for that first half and early
in games but uh, the week of work we're putting
in right now, it's exciting and uh yeah, we're we're
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excited to get out to l A and uh and
play a great team in the Rams and go out
there and have some fun and get get some eighty
degree weather and uh and get some sunshine. Yeah. Listen,
I hate to break it to you. Tell me about
seventies seven seven. It's not a little rough. So so,
I mean, you know, and you're gonna eat some sun
block over there. But hopefully you and I think Greg
the leg might be back as well, so it might
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be a Kickers duel in the coliseum. Mason, thanks much
for being a champ, kind of walking us through your
journey and more than anything, congratulations on getting back on track.
Look forward to seeing in l A this Sunday. Thanks
for joining us. Awesome. I really appreciate it, all right.
That's remember the locker and the Lombardi Cancer Foundation, two
things he's wearing shoes for his pregame cleats. Of course,
be sure to catch live editions so the Doug Dot
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Leaps show week days at noon eastern three pm for CCIFIC. Chris,
Paul and Rondo don't like each other. This is a
poorly kept secret that Uh came to a head last
week when the two got in a fight on the
floor at Staples Center in the Lakers home opener against
the Rockets. Punches were thrown, suspensions were handed out, and
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then yesterday Rondo went Uh went back in. This is
the only time I'm going to address this. I had
a mouthpiece of my mouth. I was exasperated because I
was about to tell him to get the blank out
of here. Look at my body language, my hands, and
my hip. I turn away for a second. I look
at Eric Gordon and Mellow in the video. If they
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saw me spit, they would have turned their face up
or something. They would have had a reaction. Of course,
the NBA went on his side, him being Chris Paul
and I got three games and he got to Everyone
wants to believe Chris is a good guy. They don't
know he's a horrible teammate. They don't know how he
treats people. Look at what he did the last year
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he was in l A trying to get trying to
get to the Clippers locker room. They don't want to
believe he's capable of taunting or igniting an incident. He
comes out and says, I spit, and the media sides
with that, y'all are playing me with these tricks and
these mind games and tampering with the evidence. Ain't no
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way I intentionally spit with my bidy language the way
it was. I was now whether he intentionally spit or
unintentionally spit back and to left was there a second
spinner was Roger McDowell. That's who was. There is video
that appears to show him spitting on Chris Paul or
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spittle coming out. You know that. There is that if
if all of a sudden some spit comes out of
your mouth and lands on another person, you usually go like, oh,
my bad, right you almost it's almost like slow motion
when that happens. You You you say something and you
overpronounced the word, and it's in the air and you
see it like old good land on them, and the's
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like bush more, My bad, sorry about that, My bad,
My bad. He also didn't say that, so there wasn't
an emittance of unintentional spit, But he said like, look,
what do you mean this spit? Everybody thinks he's a
good guy. He's actually a really bad guy. And of course,
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we want to believe Chris Paul is a good guy
because Chris Paul has those really funny State Farm commercials. Right,
what if both of these things are true, because the
idea that Rondo is a better teammate when Rondo quit
on the Mavericks, when Rondo essentially got run out of Boston,
he was the one guy who when they had the
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Big three, was like, Hey, how come nobody talks about me?
He didn't endear himself to the Celtics. He didn't endear
himself to the Mavericks. A matter of fact, they cut
him out of the play off shares. He spent one
year in Sacramento, which it was basically being out of
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the league. That's Basketball Siberia. When he was in Sacramento,
that's basically saying I don't have a job anywhere else.
I'm gonna take whatever I can. And last year with
the Pelicans or you go. You go to his year
with the with the Bulls. He wasn't great with the Bulls.
He played exceptional in the first two playoff games. They
took a two games to none lead when Isaiah Thomas's
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sister had tragically died, remember that. Then he got hurt
and the Celtics came back. Then he goes to the
Pelicans and he has an okay year as a backup,
it gets the start in the playoffs and they beat
the Trailblazers, and he gets a ton of the credit
for it. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
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Rondo is not a good player, but this is basically
what it is. Chris Paul believes knows in his heart
he's a better player than Rondo, but he never got
the opportunit already to play with the players that Rondo
has gotten to play with, like k. G. Ray Allen
and Paul Pierce. And so he's jealous because in order
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to consider yourself an all time great, you gotta win
a championship. And last year his body let him down,
has let him down before. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's played with the likes of the Hornets before they
were the Pelicans, and with the Clippers essentially to expansion
franchises considering where they were when he got there, and
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he's made them a viable playoff team, which in reality
is just as good or close to as good as
winning a championship with a loaded team. So of course
he's just jealous, and Rondo's jealous, or Chris Paul because
he's like, look, I want a championship and because I'm not,
because I'm not uh loving towards the media, I don't
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get the love. That's what he thinks. I actually liked this.
This is really how the world works. I like to
cheer for other people who I really like in this profession.
I friends all over this profession radio, TV play by play,
side analysts, side uh talk show host, you name it.
I have friends. I also have people that I feel
(31:18):
like I'm competitive with. And there's some people that I
don't particularly like. And there's some people that I can
tell you I'm openly jealous of because they've gotten opportunities
that I feel like I'm better than them. I have
no doubt that it goes that way for me. You know,
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I've gotten some incredible when I when I stop and
take stock, like, I got some incredible opportunities. I'm doing
the Final Four and having my own TV show, and
I have my own radio show, doing an NFL game.
I guarantee there are thirty people who have who do
TV or radio nationally or like, why is Gottlieb doing
(32:03):
an NFL game on sidelines? What what? Why would you
put him on sidelines? He does radio, he's got college,
he's a basketball guy. My answer would be I interview
people for a living every day for fifteen years. Like
I'm around sports. We talk NFL mostly in national radio.
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Why not? But I look, if you are if you
want to take the negative route, you can. And this
is in my business. They say everybody hates everybody, and
that's really what it is in that business. Maybe it's
not everybody hates everybody. Maybe there is, Uh, there are
some friendships and guys generally like each other that they
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play with, that they compete against. But I can tell
you that everyone I know, in any business they're in,
they have a rival or a nemesis, somebody they just
they don't like. I don't like that guy. I don't
like that guy, And I'm okay with it. Coming becoming public,
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s R to listen live. You want about outhouse to
the Penthouse. You go from the Bills to the Rams.
You get to come back home and immediately play with
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a a fun offense, with a coach that gets it,
and you just you just start winning. Um, what's it
like for him? We'll ask him? Robert Woods joins us
on the Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what what was it like when when you knew you
were going to the Rams? What would take me? Take
me back? When you know you were going to the
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Rams after spending three years in Buffalo? What was that
feeling like? Uh? You know, first of thought, you know,
thanks for having me on, Doug, But just the free
agency period looking at teams, UH had you know, a
few few teams to choose from looking at the Rams.
I looked at U Jared golf course, you know on
quarterbacks number one pick Uh stood tall in the pocket,
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had to arm Um hadn't really had a chance yet.
And you looked at what Girly done in the backfield,
and then just some of the pieces that they were
adding on. But the main one was just the head
coach move hearing what he Uh did in Washington. Um
with the control, he had the creativeness. A lot of
players and coaches vous for him, um saying, you know
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he's a you know, true genius. He really knows the game.
And then just come out and just trusting it and
uh coming out here and actually playing out exactly you
know how how I thought, you know, with the great
coach Jared pan and gall was number one, uh quarterback
and uh just getting this high powered offense rolling again.
Was there, ever, was there a moment to which you
totally bought in, you know because you heard about it
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and people talked about it. Was there a moment you're like,
all right, this dog will hunt, this is the place
for me. Uh? Probably, Uh, first off, you know, just
throwing with throwing with Jared, My first time throwing with Jared,
I knew he had the arm, um delift the ball
nice and nice and easy right in the pocket, um
so define and justin shirts and T shirts, I knew
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Jared had an arm And then just coming coming to
this offense, learning the offense and then seeing the transition
from O. T A S and training camp just mcveighs transition,
learning his players, learning the guy and coming back with
a whole new twist of his offense like that that
kind of fed off of us. I think just him
being a mastermind, being creative, always thinking of new plays
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and ways so I attack defense. It shows, Uh, how
we how we practice in the shows on Sundays when
we play. How do you fight off complacency? Like, right
now you're seven and oh and I know polls don't matter,
but there's not a there's not a human being alive
that dozen things. You're not the best most complete team
in the national football Like obviously you know you've had
some issues, injuries at a kicking position, a couple of
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other injuries. But you know it's not just that you
have the wins. You've beaten legit teams or teams good
teams on the road. How do you fight off complacency? Yeah,
under understanding it's a process. Understanding that it's it's clearly, uh,
a daily process to our success. Um, it's not just weekly. Um,
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it starts in our daily preparation. We come in and
we work every single day, whether it's in the film room,
in the waiver, and we compete and uh and just
go out there and execute our game plan. The biggest
thing just um being ourselves. And you said, you know,
not many complacent. I think we all been in different
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places on the other side of this thing. Uh, but
we had, you know, losing records or just a battling
season and a lot of guys know you know, it
contains very quickly and uh, you know it just really
it's the standu fel every every team every week as
a talent um, we have to be well prepared. Cooper
has been out obviously, so that changes your role. What's
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that like for you when there's less options? Now you're
used in even more prominent position. Uh, just just works.
Just finding works in this seeing you know, keep keep winning,
keep being productive as the offense, and find ways to
execute our game plan. Whether it's me playing in a
the slop position and playing outside. You know, we we
still have to execute our game plan. We we all
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move around as receivers in his offense. But just this
being dial in and still having the same goal as
a team and has to win. And that's to finish
our driving. Robert Woods joining us on the Doug Otlip
Show Fox Sports Radio. Gotta be weird for you, right
or I don't know if weird is the word, what's
the word you would describe? You know, you play at
sc you go away, you come back and you're playing
in l A. Like when you were at SC there
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was no proteins in l A. So now there is,
And now you're playing in the exact same stadium, albeit
partially redone. What's that like for you? Yeah, I would,
I wouldn't say weird, I would. I would say comfortable. Um.
I've been playing in that stadium, been going to that
stadium uh for for years uh almost probably probably a
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decade or so. UM, but this just knowing that field, UM,
practicing in there uh in college from games to spring games. UM.
Have an opportunity to come back as a bill and
playing that same stadium, which I thought would be my
last time, and coming back in the RAM, playing in
that stadium, play many many games in that stadium called
lots of passes, uh in touchdowns. But I would say
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the word is just just comfortable. I think I play well.
It feels like I'm playing in my backyard when or there.
All right, you got the all whites, you got the
all yellows, you got the traditional blue and yellow. Uh.
Pick if Robert Woods in charge, you get to pick
the uniforms for some of these big games. Packed this
week Saints, next week Chiefs in Mexico, city. What's what's
the uniforms that you think are the cleanest? Uh, probably
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probably the throwbacks. I'll go with the throwbacks blue and yellow. Um.
I love the helmet we wear with with our yellows
as well, but I love the blue face man. Uh
to go with the yellow horns, Um, that would be
my comination. Yeah, you know it's funny when they were here,
I'm old enough to I grew up in Orange County
and when they were here the first time, like I
didn't like those Rams uniforms, but now it's throwbacks. I
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love those. And then the all whites are like the
super super way back throwbacks back to when they were
the l A Rams the first time. But it's it's
weird how what was once ugly is now super super cool. Yeah,
the exactly what you say, you know those throwbacks are.
They're you know, players and want to where the throwbacks
to the retros And because there's something you don't where
as much, you know, you bring out some different colors
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and I get to bring up some different cleats as well. Um,
give me something about golf that we don't know. Like
I met him before the draft, and we met him
after his first year and like, look, he just seems
like a regular sort of dude, but there has to
be something behind the face mask in a game. Is
he secretly super competitive or is he always kind of
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that chill, laid back guy. I would I would say both.
I think he is very laid back. He's always in control,
very confident. But I would say he is that confederate.
I know he he lines up and uh, he reads
the defense, and I think he's very confident in our
ability in our plays that we could compete with anybody. Uh.
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He loves his match up. He takes his his senses
and U but the biggest thing, he's aggressive and he
and he's poised at the same time. And I think
that's a good uh combination for our quarterback. You want
one who is aggressive and takes his shots and takes
his match up, but you want a quarterback who also
is going to lead and stay poised and matter the
situation to drop the game. How different is it for
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you this year? And by that, I mean you go
back two years ago and like you said, you were
with the Bills, you played against the Rams. People always
thought they were about a five hundred team. Last year,
it could be safe to say that you stuck up
on people. This year, everyone knew that the the Rams were
going for right, picking up Marcus, picking up in Dominican,
you know, making some changes to really kind of go
for it. You haven't snuck up on anybody. Is it
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different this year than last year in terms of the crowds,
the level of preparation from opponents? Is it different? I
would say so just just a little bit. Last year, Uh,
you know, we had a little street going and I remember,
you know, another player, you know, Uh, We're looking to
the side and in questions like hey, like are we good?
Like you know, we were actually pretty good, you know.
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And I would say from this year is transition is
uh we feel like we know we're good, We know
our team, we know our ability. But the biggest thing
is this year from last year is kind of drowning
out all that outside noise, outside factors and literally everything
that we talked about, everything um our goals, our game
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plans is always about us, always about executing our game plan.
We go into the week where we know we match
up with great opponents, but we know like if if
we play our game and we execute our our game play,
our play, our best performance doesn't really matter what they
do on their end, because you know, we're a complete team.
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We're gonna play as a unit and just just be
ourselves and play ufl Prior Guardina, Sarah Robert Woods joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Only l A guys
can answer these two questions. Team CP three or Team Rondo?
Oh seeing Rondo? Uh Lake Lake or so Lake? So?
Uh you gotta go at Rondo? Okay, well, I mean,
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but but but CP three did he won with the Clippers.
He didn't win at all, but he won with the
clip one debt of greater level with the Clippers. Anyboy,
all right? How about this one? Team Kobe or Team
Lebron Team Kobe? Uh? You know, happy happy brons here. Um,
but you know I grew up watching Kobe cee and
great and seen the transformation from eight to four. Um,
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seeing his grind and just kind of seeing his whole career.
You see him being young Kobe, Uh coming in you know,
airball on the side, to come in hitting game winners
with three people on him. You've seen this process, You've
seen his grind. You always hear about the work that
he put in. Uh. Now with someone who I watched
growing up, So I would definitely go with uh, Kobe
being briant. All right, So you were the one who
(43:21):
defaced the mural. That's what that's what you're. You're you're
the one who's like, no way, no, no, Lebron Murals. Now,
let's taken in best in the game right now for sure?
All Right. I don't remember Kobe missing two free throws
in the waiting seconds to to ice a game. I don't.
I don't remember that. I like Lebron too, but I
don't I don't remember that. Robert, congrats on the season
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so far, good luck against the Pack, and we look
forward to talking the very near future. Thank you. Just
talking to something, all right, this Robert Woods, Guardina Sarah
usc l a Rams, and boy, the Rams have a
high powered offense and you know he's been their leading
wide receiver I think four of their seven wins
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hope you're having a great day. I hope you enjoyed
sports last night. Specifically, no, not Blake Griffin's He dropped
(00:44):
World Series on the way on Fox and the Boston
Red Sox take a one game to none lead. We'll
start there. We will get you into some National Football
leagu discussion. Mason Crosby, kicker with the Green Bay Packers.
I'm gonna ask him out the Nightmare game where he
missed kick after kick after kick and uh and then
(01:05):
to come back and hit the game winning kicked. The
very next week, we'll talk with Mason Crosby the Green
Bay Packers. Upcoming the Broncos release swag Kelly. Chad Kelly
now has hit the hit, hit for the cycle. You
ready for it. He's been kicked off of his high school, college,
and pro team. Right. I feel like that's Nucula luch
(01:25):
level a new another new league record. So we'll get
to some of that and what the NFL has finally
figured out that baseball and basketball figured out a while
back or a while ago, depending on what part of
the country you're listening into. Robert Woods and the Rams
(01:46):
will join us. Matt Holliday, seven time All Star, a
World Series champ, will get his thoughts on last night,
and Great Co South NFL Films will join us for
his weekly stop. Man, do we got a lot to
get to. Let's begin last night in Boston with the
Red Sox took a one game to none lead and
for the record, Clayton Manning, I mean Clayton Kershaw wasn't
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great in a big spot. Again. Now, sometimes I think
it's going to the well too much with Kershaw, and
he had an outstanding second outing with the but with
the Dodgers against the Brewers and then closed out the
series out of the bullpen. You go to that well
too much. And this is what happens. He gets bat
around four innings, pitched seven hits, five earned runs, He
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walked three, struck out five, struggled some with not just
control but location and pitching, much like real estate is
about location, location, location, still because Chris Sale wasn't great either.
Remember this is Chris sale stud picture for the Red Sox.
He gave up five hits, only three runs, struck out seven,
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but only last four innings as well, and he turned
it over to the Red Sox bullpen, which has been
much blind. It was four. It was five to four
in the seventh inning. The Dodgers had just played a run.
They had bases loaded, made him maccadow with a short
sack fly only plates one run. But this game was
very much hanging in the balance. And though Craig Kimberl
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was yet to be used, and so is Nathan Nevaldi,
the fact is, you tell me what's better to have
a one run lead or to have a four run lead.
So with a one run lead, with one run lead,
Pedro Biaz was in the game at the start of
the bottom of the seventh inning. Now Bias, who is
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right hand, came came in and struck out the first
two batters he faced. Excuse me, he struck out one,
then they intentionally walked another in order in order to
get a double play first and second. Then he struck
out another. She got runners at first and second and
two outs, and Dave Roberts goes to the mound and
(04:03):
pulls Pedro Bias out because by the book, by the numbers,
by the book, by the numbers, it was better. He
was better going to Alex Wood out of the pen.
Here's what happened. One oh when he swings it drives
walk a left high at day five, a wall god three,
red pitch home warnon, yes, get you a flavor, have
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a Red Sox. Late at eight to four, Edward o'noniez
with the home run, and that was that, right, You
get a four run lead at that point the game.
If Ali comes in and pitch as well, so too
does Craig Kimberrell, and the Red Sox take and take
a one game to none lead the best of seven series.
Remember this is after an inning in which the Dodgers
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had bases loaded with only one out. They only played
in one run, but they were putting pressure on that
Red Sox bullpen. Now bet ten came in against Urus
and it's a ground rule double. They bring in Bias,
he strikes out Moreland, they intentionally walk Martinez Andrew uh
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what's name a Zander Bogart's strikes out swinging, and both
Bogarts and Moreland look completely overmatched by Bias. So of
course they bring in Wood and instead of having lefty
lefty as Devers was up for the Red Sox, Eduard
o'nionez from the right side of the plate comes in. Now,
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for the record, if you wanted to go full analytics,
if you really want to do it by the books,
you could do what the Raised did earlier this year,
what we've seen Joe Madden doing the regular season. That's
you could have sticked Bias out in right field, and
then if they're gonna pinch hit for devas with Neon Yez,
switch him and put Alex would in right field. In baseball,
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there is this where you take a picture out of
the game, you can't put him back in. You're right,
you can't put him back in. But if you take
him off the mound and switch positions, you can put
him back in. Still, it's the idea of going by
the book, going by the numbers when all you have
to do is watch and whether it was Morland or
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Xander Bogart's, they look completely overmatched against Bias. And sadly
this is this is the case in baseball. We have
taken gut feel out of it. We go by the
What does the book say, Well, damn it, We're going
by the book. Here's Dave Roberts explaining his decision. Deva
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is really good against the right hander, and to get
a guy off the bench, and Nunez I really liked
Alex in that spot. I did so um whether they
were going to hit Devas with a lead or go
to the bench and go with Nunez. I still liked
Alex in that spot, and he hit a three run
home run. Now, part of it is it's like surgery, right.
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Any time you go to the pen, you run the
risk of a guy being off his game or a
guy struggling with the magnitude of the moment. Bias had
clearly settled in. He comes in and immediately strikes out Moreland.
The magnitude of the moment was not too much for him.
He was hitting his spots and he was thrown in
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the mid to high nineties and so every time you
go in, you run the risk of an Alex Would.
We think, based upon the numbers, Alex you like Alex
would in that spot. But you have no idea how
he's feeling on a Tuesday night in October on the
road in Boston when he thinks he's gonna fix face
a lefty and steady faces devers. You miss by that
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much because you're not quite there. You're not perfect in
this whole idea. Well, you know, we asked him for
the game. And what guy I asked before a World
Series game is gonna say, na skip pass over me.
I'm not locating today, No, thank you. But I don't
think Dave Roberts wanted to do that. Like Dave Roberts
is a lifeer baseball guy. Remember, Dave Roberts stole the
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most important base in the history of the Boston Red
Sox when they're down three games to none against the
New York Yankees. But in order to get his job
and keep his job, he had to please his bosses.
And this is where it's relatable to all of us,
right that sometimes you gotta do something because your boss
says that's what you're gonna do. Yeah, I don't know.
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My gut tells me this is not the good idea. Well,
I guess what. I'm the boss. It's a good idea.
That's exactly what happened here. Precisely what happened here. It's
not that Dave Robberts doesn't believe in the numbers. It's
not that Dave Robberts didn't think lefty lefty generally. But
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Dave Roberts could see what all of us saw, which
is Bayas was dealing locating, and there is and this
doesn't you don't see this by the book. But if
Bias comes up and he's facing a left hander as
a righty, knowing the numbers say go to Alex Wood
and you stick with him. You don't think that pumps
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some confidence into Bias's blood. Of course it does, but
the numbers don't tell you that. But this isn't about
Dave Roberts being completely sold out to the numbers. It's
selling out to what his boss wants, because that's how
he got his job instead of Din Mattingly, and that's
how he'll keep his job. And that's sadly the state
of baseball. Andrew Friedman is the general manager. He comes
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from the Tampa Bay Rays. They go by the numbers,
and that's exactly what they're doing here. It becomes over
managing and paralysis by analysis. Just watch the game. How's
bias pitching? Great? Then don't do anything. Don't do anything.
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Would that happen in basketball? Guy hits two jump shots? Hey,
you gotta go get him? Why I don't like this
matchup as much? But that happened in football? Man, they
cannot cover Julio Jones. Well, they change the matchup. They
put Richard Sherman on him. Let's stop throwing to Julio Jones. No,
you make them. You make as much as numbers may
(10:20):
tell you. Hey, maybe it's time to do something else.
Your gut has to weigh at least of it. That's
why it's important that you played. If you don't want
any sort of relatable if you don't want any sort
of feeling of understanding of the game, higher, damn robot.
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But we've made robots out of smart baseball people. Tal
Aaron Boone got the job. Dave Roberts got the job. Listen,
just manage he goes, and we'll manage the game for you.
When the numbers say, make a change, you make a change,
and that game went from winnable to unwinnable with one
ill fated decision. Because the truth is that if he
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left Bias in there and he said, you know the
number said Alex would But I also knew that if
I put wood in, they'd hit a right They hit
a righty against him, and I'm watching Bayaz and he
was pitching. Great. We see this with starting pictures. All
the time. Guy is dealing, and so instead of letting
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him come out to start the next inning, we pull
him because the book says, based upon this number of
pitches against this hitter, let him pitch a guy to
a guy because the old what's the worst thing that
could happen actually happened when they made the change. This
is what happens in relationships. You're gonna do something for
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your wife which you know is wrong that you shouldn't
do with your girlfriend or your boyfriend, your husband, and
you do it in your job all the time. I
don't want to do this. I know it's not the
right thing, but this is how I get to keep
my job because if I'm wrong, I will take the blame.
But the truth is, this is why I got the job.
My boss told me to do it. Be sure to
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. How many years
do you think Mason Crosby has played for the Green
Bay Packers music? What do you think? I'm gonna go? Nine? Nine? Nine? Uh? John, John,
(12:34):
what are you gonna? What are you gonna? What are
you gonna get? Say? Twelve? Twelve years? Twelve years? Yes? Okay? Um,
Mason Crosby joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Mason, what's the correct answer? Is correct?
Twelve is correct? Oh? Wow? Wow? That is really Look
at ramost walking or walking around. Yeah he is. He
(12:58):
is absolutely celebrating. It's a really kind of amazing. Uh.
There's there's like this weird world of kickers where you know,
Cody Park you whatever. I mean, He's been on several
different teams, Dolphins last year, Bears this year, who knows
where he'll be next Year's signed a one year, big
money deal. So many other guys kind of bounce around
with exception of you, uh, justin Tucker. Um, I'm trying
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to thank us Gostkowski right like that, those are the
only three now that seemingly have a home and aren't
leaving anywhere. What's the secret to longevity in one place?
Oh man, I wish uh I knew, uh I could
give you some insight to a secret, But I think
it's it was just being consistent, um, you know, showing
(13:42):
up every day on and off the field and trying
to be the be a consistent uh you know person
in the locker room with the team, with your teammates,
and uh, you know, going out on a daily basis
on the field and you know, doing your job at
a high level and being able to do handle you know,
six sess and you know and adversity. Um, you know,
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you you just kind of get connected with with the
people in the building and uh in the community and
all those things. And yeah, I think you know obviously
you know athletics, you've seen it now. We've been lucky
enough here in Green Bay we've had a very consistent
you know front office and uh you know head coach
and coaching staff. So I think that helps as well.
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But uh, you know, in athletics, you're just uh you
get comfort level and you feel you know, feel good
and you have your you know, you have your guys,
and I think that, uh, that's definitely a part of
it as well. So, um, you look at the places
that you mentioned, the guys who have longevity. Uh, that's
probably a big factor of it as well. Is is
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having a comfort level with uh, with the people in
the organization, coaches, front office, um, you know, etcetera. They're
just um, you know, trusting and knowing that that we're
gonna do our job every day. Making them making of
helps to write, like you know, like you still you
do have to there is other things important on the continuum,
but making them helps. I remember, I think it was
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your first your first preseason game. Didn't you have like
a fifty two yard or against the Steelers? Was that
my misremembering my impressive Yeah? Um so so so okay,
so process if you can, I draw like this is
your first kick as a pro and you're a six
round draft picking. One of the things that's interesting about
the mercurial world of kickers is a lot of times
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guys are better in their second or their third spot,
right because the pressure, especially guys are draft there a
lot of pressure on you to perform, um, do you
remember what it was like to line up that first
time fifty two yards away Hinesfield kick a kick a
field goal, I do, yeah, you know it. I was
you know obviously, and I was in a battle for
the for the job there. Um you know, had to
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had a good uh you know, a good position since
I was drafted, but you know, they put us through
the ring or we I was competing with Dave Rayner,
and I just remember you I remember going out there
for that kick and just you know, feeling feeling the
freedom to just swing away and uh know that, um,
you know whatever whatever, you know, however the chips were
gonna fall, I'm gonna I'm gonna just go out there
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and swing and make sure that, uh that I had
a good solid ball. And I think at the time
when I hit that fifty two yard or um, you know,
obviously it was preseason, but I think I tied tied
the longest field goal in hines Field or something like that.
I think it's been it might have been broken now,
but uh yeah, that was that was a big moment.
And and you know, every kick like that. And I
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remember the first game of my regular season, my of
the regular season there against the Eagles that same same year,
I I kicked the fifty three yard or was my
first field goal in the NFL as well. Uh you know,
uh there in Lambeau. So that uh, those those are
memories you know, twelve years later that you still stick
with me, and um, you know, well, I'll never forget
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those moments. And of course you guys want a Super
Bowl that year. So but you so you've shown that
pressure doesn't you know, press doesn't really ratty you. So
what what went wrong? Um? Well segue And I'm just like, look,
I'm not trying to make it all Debbie Downer, but
I do you know, how do you how do you
go from being one of the most consistent kickers in
the NFL to just having one of those days against
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the Vikings where nothing goes your way? Yeah, That's that's
what it felt like. Yeah, just nothing. Um, It's like
nothing I've ever felt or you know, been been involved
in where I pick a line felt you know good
obviously wearing a dome. So I'm just uh, you know,
take my steps on the line that I that I
felt good about, and uh it honestly, as I look
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at the film, all this stuff is like did I
when I was kicking from the left hash and I
think I was on the right hash Like it was,
did I have a bout of vertigo in that game?
I mean it literally all those as as I watch it,
That's that's almost like the way I would have to
explain it, because it just felt like I pick a line,
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I'd commit to the kick, all the things, and it
just every strike, every ball was just slightly off and
h and every bad possible thing that could happen went wrong.
So yeah, I I chalked that one up to I've
done this for such a long time, I could have
never imagined a game like that, and uh uh it was.
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It was by far, Yeah, my worst performance. Uh gosh,
even when I started sports. You know, I can't look
back at pee weee sports and think of a of
a worse, worse performance that I've ever had. Of course,
truro We learned that it was about the laces being out. Yeah,
you know, I wish I could, Yeah, I wish there
were something it was something I could dissect in the
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film that that was the case, But that was it
was a strange one. It was it was like, yeah,
it was just a nightmare that that just kind of
kept going. So unfortunately, I had a lot of attempts
at game, and uh I just kind of kept snowballing. Okay,
but but you you haven't you've never thrown your holder
or your long snapper under the bus, you know. But
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but in reviewing, it was it all you you know, honestly,
you know. The tough part there is the last kick
that I made. Um, you know, we ended up kind
of rushing out there because we decided to go for
a field goal and they actually didn't get a kicking
ball and so we actually kicked a quarterbacks ball that
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you know was laces straight back they got turned and
I made that one. So um yeah, you know it
was It's unexplainable, honestly, and uh it's one of those
days that I was happy to be done with and
uh you know, obviously moving on a week and two
weeks now just to be passed, but uh uh yeah,
it was. It was strange and um you know, I yeah,
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i I've never I've never put anything over the top
on anyone else. I know that I have to do
my job at high level all the time, but uh,
you know, it's uh, it was it was an interesting one,
and um, you know we're we're continually working hard every
day to make sure that nothing like that ever happened. Okay,
but if if you write a if you write a script,
it couldn't been scripted any better to come down to
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a game winning kick the next thing. Now, look, it
was a it's a twenty seven yarder, But are those
Are those really harder? Are they easy? Like? I don't know,
There's there's gotta be something to like if you kick
a fifty two yarder and you miss it, people like,
well it's a fifty two yarder, you know, seven yarder.
When you had the yip maybe the yips the week before,
how amazing is uh? You know that the turnaround in
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just one week, you got another opportunity to show your
team you belong. Yeah, you know, like you said, opportunity.
I was so thankful to have that that chance and
all the opportunities I had in that game, a lot
of big kicks, um, you know throughout that game. And yeah,
I mean I had a fifty one yarder on that
Monday night, uh Monday night game that Uh, as I
went out there, I'm just like, well this is kind
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of this is kind of it. You better, you know,
just swing free and hit the hit a good ball here,
because uh, you know these uh, these are the types
of kicks you have to make to to kind of
get the confidence everyone back, you know, kinda al right,
he's uh, he's past it. And so knocking that one
through was great. And so yeah, I had confidence, uh
you know, uh going into that game as I you know,
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as I how I approached it through the week. I
felt really solid with my preparation. And then yeah, the
twenty seven yard or it's just just pick a line
right down the middle and just just rip it, just
hit it hard. I felt like, you know, our time
on it was really fast. Uh you know, operation was good,
protection was good. They came, they rushed really hard. I
almost got hitting the legs, you know by some of
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the San fran guys. But uh but yeah, I knew
as long as I just just got it off and
got it quick, uh, we we'd have no issues there.
So I'm thankful for Aaron and uh and Devonte on
that one for getting us, getting us as as close
as possible. So h so it made it a chip shot. Yeah,
and and Aaron, of course, being a solid friend, put
his arm around you the week before, and uh, and
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and then you paid him back with the game winner
against the Niners. Doug Gotlie show Fox Sports trading Mason
crossby Packers. Our guests Graham Gono joined us, and he
wasn't bragging because it was in fact true. Apparently kicked
a seventy three yard that was called back as a penalty.
In high school. You had what's what's your bragging kicker
back in the day, I kicked it from the parking
lot story. Um, let's see, you know I I haven't
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kicked I haven't kicked seventy one yard or seventy three
yarder in a game. But uh yeah, my my longest
set I've kicked with a snap hold operation. Um, you know,
just goofing around before a game is is seventy one yards.
So um, you know did that a few times in college.
Uh here in Lambeau pre game, you know I've stretched
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it back out the sixty five. So that's uh, I
think if the right conditions were there, uh, sixty five
would be doable. Good good conditions this week in l A.
Those are you know, real grass field. It's it's not
a dome, although we know you and domes maybe don't
don't get along, you like, give me the nasties playing outside.
I'm okay with a Yeah, Mason Crosby joined us. Wait,
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you're now you're getting this custom cleat thing, right you guys.
You guys can't wear custom cleats in the game, but
pre game and then everybody tweets out some sort of
what's your custom cleats you're wearing. Yeah, so this year
I'm gonna wear I'm gonna wear a couple had the
Vince Lombardi Cancer Foundation has made made up of a
couple of pairs for me. And then my my mom's
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organization down in Georgetown, Texas is uh, the Locker Foundation,
and there they she actually had students at the local
schools there do a competition and they they mocked up
a pair of cleats that I sent down, uh with
the Locker logo and all the stuff on it. So
I'll be, uh, I'll be rocking on you know, both
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those pairs at some point later on in this Uh,
in this season. One of the things that kickers have
is they have the ability to kind of be wallflowers
to see, you know, what's what's really going on with
the team. Take the temperature of the Green Bay Packers.
How would you characterize, uh, kind of the mojo of
the team heading into this battle against the L A Rams. Yeah,
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I mean you you said the word battle. I mean
I think this team has shown that throughout this this year. Uh,
you know, obviously from the first game there in Chicago
coming back and getting that win. Um, pretty much honestly
every game that we've been in just you know, we've
had some adversity, UM, some adverse situations that we've had
to battle back from and uh and find ways to win. Unfortunately,
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some of those didn't go the right way. But you know,
I think this team has has the makeup and as
a chemistry to to just find a way to to
battle through adversity and find ways to to not let
it be overwhelming and get us down and um, you know,
you know, get into that hole. So I think our
our biggest thing is that trying to start fast, try
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to get get on the field and get this thing
rolling a little bit quicker. Because our our second half
of games of have been exceptional. I mean, our our
two minutes stuff has been excellent. So we just need
to find that formula for that first half and early
in games but uh, the week of work we're putting
in right now, it's exciting and uh yeah, we're we're
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excited to get out to l A and uh and
play a great team in the Rams and go out
there and have some fun and get get some eighty
degree weather and uh and get some sunshine. Yeah. Listen,
I hate to break it to you. Tell me about
seventies seven seven. It's not a little rough. So so,
I mean, you know, and you're gonna eat some sun
block over there. But hopefully you and I think Greg
the leg might be back as well, so it might
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be a Kickers duel in the coliseum. Mason, thanks much
for being a champ, kind of walking us through your
journey and more than anything, congratulations on getting back on track.
Look forward to seeing in l A this Sunday. Thanks
for joining us. Awesome. I really appreciate it, all right.
That's remember the locker and the Lombardi Cancer Foundation, two
things he's wearing shoes for his pregame cleats. Of course,
be sure to catch live editions so the Doug Dot
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Leaps show week days at noon eastern three pm for CCIFIC. Chris,
Paul and Rondo don't like each other. This is a
poorly kept secret that Uh came to a head last
week when the two got in a fight on the
floor at Staples Center in the Lakers home opener against
the Rockets. Punches were thrown, suspensions were handed out, and
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then yesterday Rondo went Uh went back in. This is
the only time I'm going to address this. I had
a mouthpiece of my mouth. I was exasperated because I
was about to tell him to get the blank out
of here. Look at my body language, my hands, and
my hip. I turn away for a second. I look
at Eric Gordon and Mellow in the video. If they
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saw me spit, they would have turned their face up
or something. They would have had a reaction. Of course,
the NBA went on his side, him being Chris Paul
and I got three games and he got to Everyone
wants to believe Chris is a good guy. They don't
know he's a horrible teammate. They don't know how he
treats people. Look at what he did the last year
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he was in l A trying to get trying to
get to the Clippers locker room. They don't want to
believe he's capable of taunting or igniting an incident. He
comes out and says, I spit, and the media sides
with that, y'all are playing me with these tricks and
these mind games and tampering with the evidence. Ain't no
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way I intentionally spit with my bidy language the way
it was. I was now whether he intentionally spit or
unintentionally spit back and to left was there a second
spinner was Roger McDowell. That's who was. There is video
that appears to show him spitting on Chris Paul or
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spittle coming out. You know that. There is that if
if all of a sudden some spit comes out of
your mouth and lands on another person, you usually go like, oh,
my bad, right you almost it's almost like slow motion
when that happens. You You you say something and you
overpronounced the word, and it's in the air and you
see it like old good land on them, and the's
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like bush more, My bad, sorry about that, My bad,
My bad. He also didn't say that, so there wasn't
an emittance of unintentional spit, But he said like, look,
what do you mean this spit? Everybody thinks he's a
good guy. He's actually a really bad guy. And of course,
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we want to believe Chris Paul is a good guy
because Chris Paul has those really funny State Farm commercials. Right,
what if both of these things are true, because the
idea that Rondo is a better teammate when Rondo quit
on the Mavericks, when Rondo essentially got run out of Boston,
he was the one guy who when they had the
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Big three, was like, Hey, how come nobody talks about me?
He didn't endear himself to the Celtics. He didn't endear
himself to the Mavericks. A matter of fact, they cut
him out of the play off shares. He spent one
year in Sacramento, which it was basically being out of
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the league. That's Basketball Siberia. When he was in Sacramento,
that's basically saying I don't have a job anywhere else.
I'm gonna take whatever I can. And last year with
the Pelicans or you go. You go to his year
with the with the Bulls. He wasn't great with the Bulls.
He played exceptional in the first two playoff games. They
took a two games to none lead when Isaiah Thomas's
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sister had tragically died, remember that. Then he got hurt
and the Celtics came back. Then he goes to the
Pelicans and he has an okay year as a backup,
it gets the start in the playoffs and they beat
the Trailblazers, and he gets a ton of the credit
for it. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
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Rondo is not a good player, but this is basically
what it is. Chris Paul believes knows in his heart
he's a better player than Rondo, but he never got
the opportunit already to play with the players that Rondo
has gotten to play with, like k. G. Ray Allen
and Paul Pierce. And so he's jealous because in order
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to consider yourself an all time great, you gotta win
a championship. And last year his body let him down,
has let him down before. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's played with the likes of the Hornets before they
were the Pelicans, and with the Clippers essentially to expansion
franchises considering where they were when he got there, and
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he's made them a viable playoff team, which in reality
is just as good or close to as good as
winning a championship with a loaded team. So of course
he's just jealous, and Rondo's jealous, or Chris Paul because
he's like, look, I want a championship and because I'm not,
because I'm not uh loving towards the media, I don't
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get the love. That's what he thinks. I actually liked this.
This is really how the world works. I like to
cheer for other people who I really like in this profession.
I friends all over this profession radio, TV play by play,
side analysts, side uh talk show host, you name it.
I have friends. I also have people that I feel
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like I'm competitive with. And there's some people that I
don't particularly like. And there's some people that I can
tell you I'm openly jealous of because they've gotten opportunities
that I feel like I'm better than them. I have
no doubt that it goes that way for me. You know,
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I've gotten some incredible when I when I stop and
take stock, like, I got some incredible opportunities. I'm doing
the Final Four and having my own TV show, and
I have my own radio show, doing an NFL game.
I guarantee there are thirty people who have who do
TV or radio nationally or like, why is Gottlieb doing
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an NFL game on sidelines? What what? Why would you
put him on sidelines? He does radio, he's got college,
he's a basketball guy. My answer would be I interview
people for a living every day for fifteen years. Like
I'm around sports. We talk NFL mostly in national radio.
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Why not? But I look, if you are if you
want to take the negative route, you can. And this
is in my business. They say everybody hates everybody, and
that's really what it is in that business. Maybe it's
not everybody hates everybody. Maybe there is, Uh, there are
some friendships and guys generally like each other that they
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play with, that they compete against. But I can tell
you that everyone I know, in any business they're in,
they have a rival or a nemesis, somebody they just
they don't like. I don't like that guy. I don't
like that guy, And I'm okay with it. Coming becoming public,
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it makes it more intriguing, makes it more interesting. Fox
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s R to listen live. You want about outhouse to
the Penthouse. You go from the Bills to the Rams.
You get to come back home and immediately play with
(33:34):
a a fun offense, with a coach that gets it,
and you just you just start winning. Um, what's it
like for him? We'll ask him? Robert Woods joins us
on the Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what what was it like when when you knew you
were going to the Rams? What would take me? Take
me back? When you know you were going to the
(33:55):
Rams after spending three years in Buffalo? What was that
feeling like? Uh? You know, first of thought, you know,
thanks for having me on, Doug, But just the free
agency period looking at teams, UH had you know, a
few few teams to choose from looking at the Rams.
I looked at U Jared golf course, you know on
quarterbacks number one pick Uh stood tall in the pocket,
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had to arm Um hadn't really had a chance yet.
And you looked at what Girly done in the backfield,
and then just some of the pieces that they were
adding on. But the main one was just the head
coach move hearing what he Uh did in Washington. Um
with the control, he had the creativeness. A lot of
players and coaches vous for him, um saying, you know
(34:38):
he's a you know, true genius. He really knows the game.
And then just come out and just trusting it and
uh coming out here and actually playing out exactly you
know how how I thought, you know, with the great
coach Jared pan and gall was number one, uh quarterback
and uh just getting this high powered offense rolling again.
Was there, ever, was there a moment to which you
totally bought in, you know because you heard about it
(35:00):
and people talked about it. Was there a moment you're like,
all right, this dog will hunt, this is the place
for me. Uh? Probably, Uh, first off, you know, just
throwing with throwing with Jared, My first time throwing with Jared,
I knew he had the arm, um delift the ball
nice and nice and easy right in the pocket, um
so define and justin shirts and T shirts, I knew
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Jared had an arm And then just coming coming to
this offense, learning the offense and then seeing the transition
from O. T A S and training camp just mcveighs transition,
learning his players, learning the guy and coming back with
a whole new twist of his offense like that that
kind of fed off of us. I think just him
being a mastermind, being creative, always thinking of new plays
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and ways so I attack defense. It shows, Uh, how
we how we practice in the shows on Sundays when
we play. How do you fight off complacency? Like, right
now you're seven and oh and I know polls don't matter,
but there's not a there's not a human being alive
that dozen things. You're not the best most complete team
in the national football Like obviously you know you've had
some issues, injuries at a kicking position, a couple of
(36:05):
other injuries. But you know it's not just that you
have the wins. You've beaten legit teams or teams good
teams on the road. How do you fight off complacency? Yeah,
under understanding it's a process. Understanding that it's it's clearly, uh,
a daily process to our success. Um, it's not just weekly. Um,
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it starts in our daily preparation. We come in and
we work every single day, whether it's in the film room,
in the waiver, and we compete and uh and just
go out there and execute our game plan. The biggest
thing just um being ourselves. And you said, you know,
not many complacent. I think we all been in different
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places on the other side of this thing. Uh, but
we had, you know, losing records or just a battling
season and a lot of guys know you know, it
contains very quickly and uh, you know it just really
it's the standu fel every every team every week as
a talent um, we have to be well prepared. Cooper
has been out obviously, so that changes your role. What's
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that like for you when there's less options? Now you're
used in even more prominent position. Uh, just just works.
Just finding works in this seeing you know, keep keep winning,
keep being productive as the offense, and find ways to
execute our game plan. Whether it's me playing in a
the slop position and playing outside. You know, we we
still have to execute our game plan. We we all
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move around as receivers in his offense. But just this
being dial in and still having the same goal as
a team and has to win. And that's to finish
our driving. Robert Woods joining us on the Doug Otlip
Show Fox Sports Radio. Gotta be weird for you, right
or I don't know if weird is the word, what's
the word you would describe? You know, you play at
sc you go away, you come back and you're playing
in l A. Like when you were at SC there
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was no proteins in l A. So now there is,
And now you're playing in the exact same stadium, albeit
partially redone. What's that like for you? Yeah, I would,
I wouldn't say weird, I would. I would say comfortable. Um.
I've been playing in that stadium, been going to that
stadium uh for for years uh almost probably probably a
(38:11):
decade or so. UM, but this just knowing that field, UM,
practicing in there uh in college from games to spring games. UM.
Have an opportunity to come back as a bill and
playing that same stadium, which I thought would be my
last time, and coming back in the RAM, playing in
that stadium, play many many games in that stadium called
lots of passes, uh in touchdowns. But I would say
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the word is just just comfortable. I think I play well.
It feels like I'm playing in my backyard when or there.
All right, you got the all whites, you got the
all yellows, you got the traditional blue and yellow. Uh.
Pick if Robert Woods in charge, you get to pick
the uniforms for some of these big games. Packed this
week Saints, next week Chiefs in Mexico, city. What's what's
the uniforms that you think are the cleanest? Uh, probably
(38:58):
probably the throwbacks. I'll go with the throwbacks blue and yellow. Um.
I love the helmet we wear with with our yellows
as well, but I love the blue face man. Uh
to go with the yellow horns, Um, that would be
my comination. Yeah, you know it's funny when they were here,
I'm old enough to I grew up in Orange County
and when they were here the first time, like I
didn't like those Rams uniforms, but now it's throwbacks. I
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love those. And then the all whites are like the
super super way back throwbacks back to when they were
the l A Rams the first time. But it's it's
weird how what was once ugly is now super super cool. Yeah,
the exactly what you say, you know those throwbacks are.
They're you know, players and want to where the throwbacks
to the retros And because there's something you don't where
as much, you know, you bring out some different colors
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and I get to bring up some different cleats as well. Um,
give me something about golf that we don't know. Like
I met him before the draft, and we met him
after his first year and like, look, he just seems
like a regular sort of dude, but there has to
be something behind the face mask in a game. Is
he secretly super competitive or is he always kind of
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that chill, laid back guy. I would I would say both.
I think he is very laid back. He's always in control,
very confident. But I would say he is that confederate.
I know he he lines up and uh, he reads
the defense, and I think he's very confident in our
ability in our plays that we could compete with anybody. Uh.
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He loves his match up. He takes his his senses
and U but the biggest thing, he's aggressive and he
and he's poised at the same time. And I think
that's a good uh combination for our quarterback. You want
one who is aggressive and takes his shots and takes
his match up, but you want a quarterback who also
is going to lead and stay poised and matter the
situation to drop the game. How different is it for
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you this year? And by that, I mean you go
back two years ago and like you said, you were
with the Bills, you played against the Rams. People always
thought they were about a five hundred team. Last year,
it could be safe to say that you stuck up
on people. This year, everyone knew that the the Rams were
going for right, picking up Marcus, picking up in Dominican,
you know, making some changes to really kind of go
for it. You haven't snuck up on anybody. Is it
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different this year than last year in terms of the crowds,
the level of preparation from opponents? Is it different? I
would say so just just a little bit. Last year, Uh,
you know, we had a little street going and I remember,
you know, another player, you know, Uh, We're looking to
the side and in questions like hey, like are we good?
Like you know, we were actually pretty good, you know.
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And I would say from this year is transition is
uh we feel like we know we're good, We know
our team, we know our ability. But the biggest thing
is this year from last year is kind of drowning
out all that outside noise, outside factors and literally everything
that we talked about, everything um our goals, our game
(41:53):
plans is always about us, always about executing our game plan.
We go into the week where we know we match
up with great opponents, but we know like if if
we play our game and we execute our our game play,
our play, our best performance doesn't really matter what they
do on their end, because you know, we're a complete team.
(42:14):
We're gonna play as a unit and just just be
ourselves and play ufl Prior Guardina, Sarah Robert Woods joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Only l A guys
can answer these two questions. Team CP three or Team Rondo?
Oh seeing Rondo? Uh Lake Lake or so Lake? So?
Uh you gotta go at Rondo? Okay, well, I mean,
(42:37):
but but but CP three did he won with the Clippers.
He didn't win at all, but he won with the
clip one debt of greater level with the Clippers. Anyboy,
all right? How about this one? Team Kobe or Team
Lebron Team Kobe? Uh? You know, happy happy brons here. Um,
but you know I grew up watching Kobe cee and
great and seen the transformation from eight to four. Um,
(43:01):
seeing his grind and just kind of seeing his whole career.
You see him being young Kobe, Uh coming in you know,
airball on the side, to come in hitting game winners
with three people on him. You've seen this process, You've
seen his grind. You always hear about the work that
he put in. Uh. Now with someone who I watched
growing up, So I would definitely go with uh, Kobe
being briant. All right, So you were the one who
(43:21):
defaced the mural. That's what that's what you're. You're you're
the one who's like, no way, no, no, Lebron Murals. Now,
let's taken in best in the game right now for sure?
All Right. I don't remember Kobe missing two free throws
in the waiting seconds to to ice a game. I don't.
I don't remember that. I like Lebron too, but I
don't I don't remember that. Robert, congrats on the season
(43:41):
so far, good luck against the Pack, and we look
forward to talking the very near future. Thank you. Just
talking to something, all right, this Robert Woods, Guardina Sarah
usc l a Rams, and boy, the Rams have a
high powered offense and you know he's been their leading
wide receiver I think four of their seven wins
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Doug Gottlieb
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