October 15, 2025 • 38 mins
On this installment of "The Midway", Doug and the crew share the storylines they are most intrigued by halfway through the college football regular season. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to talk about Tua, the Chargers and all of the NFL headlines. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Coming to here from the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Beautiful Combines Comfines Combines Confines of Green Bay, Wisconsin, Sherman Oaks, California.
I hope you're doing great. We think Jason Stewart's in
a decent mood. Right decent mood to me. As Dodgers
are of two games and none, it doesn't appear to
be like the like the Brewers are going to be
super competitive. I guess Jay stew we'll get to midway.
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But I know nobody wants to count their chickens before
they're hatched. But she gotta be filming pretty good today
with the Dodgers up two games none and such outstanding
starting pitching, and you haven't even gotten much from show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey yet, I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't think Isaac has heard this analogy, so I
think he'll enjoy it and appreciate it. And for those
listeners who haven't heard it, I've likened being a Dodger
fan to being the child of a drunk. So your
pops is a drunk and you live in this tormented
world where even on the days when he comes home sober,
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you live the entire day fearing about the guy that
was going to show up. I think I share a
lot of Dodger fans view on this and that we
never know which team's going to show up. I could
be happy today, but I liken it too when you
invite your friends over for a sleepover and the good
dad shows up and the friends like, man, what a
cool guy. He's awesome. You know he gave us one
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hundred bucks for a thirty dollars pizza.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm in a good spot right now. But for those
that watch this team every day, you know that anything
can happen at any minute. Does that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I will wow? That escalated quickly. Yeah you know what?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I could actually say that that perfectly captures the emotions
for most sports fans out there about their favorite team.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's like you'll keep going back from more regardless of it.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a little harsh in regards
to the Dodgers, like there their outcomes have not been
there has not been that wide a variance in it,
Like why do you think it happened? Like, well, they
win like two thirds of the time, Jason, and they've
been pretty good in the playoffs. So yeah, I mean
I get it you're tormented by past playoff failures and
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in no in no way should we chalk this up
as hey, that's a dub, that's a win, no question
about it. On the other hand, there is a portion
of it where you go, dude, you're up two games
to none. This thing appears to over. It's just a
matter of how many Like do you really think the
Brewers can win four of what five games?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Four or five games? Do you think they can win
four or five games off the Dodgers?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, they're the best team in the regular season, right,
they've gone on.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's never been that has never been a determinant into
who can be successful in the postseason in Major League Baseball, ever,
it's the one sport where the regular season truly doesn't matter.
It just does not in terms of determined. It's a
different sport once you get to the postseason. I don't
think you wouldn't argue that, would you.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh no, no, It's one of my biggest criticisms of
the Baseball playoffs. But I do remember telling Brewer fans,
namely Dan Byer and August I think the Brewers had
won some like ridiculous amount, like thirty out of thirty
one or something crazy. And I'm like, I remember our
Dodgers in twenty seventeen when they had went on a
similar streak. In August, Sports Illustrated came out with best
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Ring you Were Season ever, and then they went on
to lose and then lose in the postseason. So yeah,
you're right, two different seasons, two different teams.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Maybe let's uh, let's do this. We do this every Wednesday.
It's the middle of the week, the middle of the day. Frankly,
the middle of the show. We're like middle of the show,
your two hours. No, no, we have the hour podcast,
which goes live as soon as this show's Oh, we
can download wherever you download podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's get to the midway. He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It's time for the middle. The midway.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Jason Stewart. What's the topic?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'll take it from here. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I sent this message to the group text and I
was hoping to get a lot of good feedback. Guys.
Today we have a chance at a pure midway. What
does that mean? You say, the middle of the show,
the middle of the day, middle of the week, middle
of the month, Doug. And also for most college football teams,
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the very middle of the regular season. This is a
pure midway. So many middles, more middles than a I
know Isaac could think of something more witty than I can.
But anyways, what's storyline right now in college football most
has your attention? I want you to pick one. I
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want you to drill down on it. Why is it
so interesting to you? And to be honest, our guy,
Ryan Smith filling in for Iowa Sam, Today's got a
really good one, Ryan Smith, what's the most intriguing storyline
right now in college football?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For you?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I do?
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Oh, yeah, I do yeah. So I love train wrecks
and well, Penn State needs a coach and the rumor
is they want Marcus Freeman. Well, guess what, They're not
gonna get him, and I'm wondering what their backup plan
is or if they even have a backup plan. And
I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show because
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I believe this is going to be a train wreck.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Tull.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
He's got an easy answer for that one, right, Penn
State's got one choice.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, it's Matt rule.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If they don't get Matt Ruhle, it'll be a trade wrecker,
just because I mean, it's just it's a little too simple.
He's in the league, he did a great job turning
around Temple, he went there, he's close with the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like this one seems really easy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't believe for one second that an athletic director
who has a lifetime friendship with a high level coach
who's like that, he'll go and he go anywhere else
in then why, Because the relationship has to be a
really strong one in order to succeed.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Has to be. If you're athletic director, you aren't on
the same page. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Same thing with the president and those guys are Penn
State guys, they're good friends. If it doesn't end up there, yeah,
then it now becomes weird.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And probably a trader.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I personally said. I personally said before the season that
my most I think the favorite thing that I'm looking
forward to following is arch Mannings season. I want to
watch Arch's arc and it has been up and down.
I think mostly down or mid. You know, there was
always this thing where teams like the Saints were going
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to tank tank for arch I don't think that's a
thing anymore. I don't think he's the consensus number one
overall pick after six games of the college football season.
I could be wrong, and I don't even think he
needs to come out this year. I remember his granddad,
Archie before the season, told that random magazine that it's
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not even the foregone conclusion that he'll come out after
this season. So I think at the midway point, in
my very pedestrian, average college football casual viewpoint, I don't
think arch Manning is the number one overall pick in
the draft. So I think we could stop all the
narratives about these teams tanking for number one, right. I
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don't think the Jets take it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I think they're taking for him. I think they're tanking
for the best possibility of drafting a quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh yeah, no, that's that's always a thing. But I
mean Arch isn't the guy right, because that was the
kind of the off season thing, tank for Arch, lose
for Arch. Could we do away with that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah? We can? Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I love I'm actually going to go with the two
Los Angeles teams completely out of nowhere, starting with USC
which took a big step in making a believer out
of me with not only beating Michigan last week, but
the way they beat Michigan last week. And you want
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to talk about a potential springboard to a whole new level,
what do you know at Notre Dame this weekend? And
then you couple that with something that completely.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Came out of nowhere.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You have UCLA, which we've been making fun of their
lack of attendance and the whole Deshaun Foster thing was
a disaster, and out of nowhere they beat Penn State.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They set that particular ball in motion.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
And then I'm like, oh, all right, hey, this is
what they're going to remember for this year, you know,
whatever is going to happen. And then Tim Skipper, the
interim head coach, challenges them. He puts, are you going
to be a one hit wonder on the team plane
on their way to Michigan State, and then they not
only win at Michigan State, but they thrash them. So
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suddenly you have the two LA programs being really interesting
stories out of nowhere, and we'll see where it goes
from the UCLA standpoint with Tim Skipper as the.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Interim head coach.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Consequently, this leads to a side side light that maybe
you guys can opine on where does James Franklin wind
up next season? Could UCLA be where he winds up?
But I just I'm fascinating, fascinated by the fact that
just within the last couple of weeks, both Los Angeles
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teams have suddenly made themselves relevant in college football.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, I think that's one thing that's interesting about it
is we heard so much about, Hey, these West Coast
schools come into the Midwest. Travel's gonna hurt them, Weather's
gonna hurt them, They're gonna get thumped, And well then
I saw USC UCLA, Oregon did beat Penn State before
losing at home to Indiana, But I saw them all
get huge road winds and tough environments against good teams.
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So like, what are we actually doing like what it's
not the big bead wolf.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've never understood that.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You're right because when we're talking about football, you're going
on a charter flight the day.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Also, people don't understand how far Washington State is from Tucson,
Arizona or U c l A. Like there are there
if you're flying there anyway, it's not like you're busting.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
To these games, right and you can give and so
it's I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're not connecting through Oakland. I would say it's it's
much more difficult.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
For say the volleyball teams for example, that have to
travel commercial halfway across the country, which the football teams,
you know, they don't have to change planes.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They're going direct and it's chartered.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I have one thing, one a couple of things, uh
my two takeaways from Isaac's point. Uh First and foremost,
how bad a coach must is seawan walked, foster bait
sewn foster bit must be awful. And then second, I
have a suggestion for the U. C l A band
you know that play in front of the eight thousand
people at the Rose Bowl. I think they need to
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work Gilligan's Islands theme into their repertoire and then at
the at the great point, at the at the part
when they need to do it, just be like Tim
Skipper ran the Mary.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ann here running.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Tim Skipper ram Mary An.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You guys understand it eventually. I did come from skip
Mary And.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Is Jerry Neuheisel the little buddy.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's a good one. Probably a little buddy. That's a
really good call. Good call, all right?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So what am I most in drinked by by with
college football? I mean, obviously the coaching firings like so
early the year is an easy one that I've I've
kind of kind of railed on.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I just.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
The SEC is so much better than everybody else, and
I just wonder what if we're still going to be
a year late in our.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Analysis of it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Last year you had a couple of SEC teams not
getting the College Wall playoffs, Alabama one, what Tennessee was another,
and instead they took other other programs.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I just don't think they can this year. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Last year you would have said, Okay, maybe I can
see it because the SEC seemed to be a little
bit down. There was much more parody. I just don't
see the parody this year. I don't if Penn State,
especially that Drew Aller, they're out. So in the Big Ten,
you have Indiana, we have Oregon, and you have Ohio State.
Those three, there's nobody else to go. No one else's
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is worthy. He is going to climb that. I mean,
maybe USC but man, they gotta they gotta beat Notre Dame,
which I don't think happens. They gotta win games here
at the end of the year possible, right with the
only loss being went.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
To Illinois and the road.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I just I look at the SEC and I think
it's a It's a league that was dominant an il
comes out and some of the investments were bad, some
of the teams are bad. Now it's just amazing. It's
an amazing league. It's way better than everybody else. And
when I call out a league, I'm not saying the
Big Ten. I think the Big Ten is second, maybe
not a close second this year because the injuries, especially quarterbacks.
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But I think the comparison to Big ten SEC and
like Big twelve ACC, you have a gigantic cap.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now I'm not saying Miami.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Miami has loaded up financially and they have it all
for a college football team. But overall, the ACC is
pales in comparison. Overall the Big twelve pales in comparison.
Those are good teams. It's just a different lower level
of football because of the financial investment the SEC and the.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Big ten A may anybody else boom Midway the Midway.
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, So there's report out there that Penn State will
pursue Marcus Freeman, right, do.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We buy this?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, on some level, yeah, I mean last year, I
mean Marcus Freeman was a good player. Looks the part
family man. Take a Notre Dame back to not just
the College fball playoff, but to the finals, you know
where they had to beat Penn State along the way.
All that makes sense with exception of the fact that
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why would you leave Notre Dame for Penn State? And
then you factor in the obvious Matt rule potential higher
they'll flush out Matt rule first. And don't get me wrong,
I think it's smart to go like tick the tires
on on on Freeman. And here's how it works, right,
he has an agent and they're like, yeah, are you interested?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He ends up getting floated. And you know, when you
have this long a lead up to the season being over,
Marcus Raymond will have a contract extension by the time
you get then and you get there anyway, and oh yeah,
by the way, like, here's the crazy part about Marcus Freeman.
Who won a couple of games in the College Twell
Playoff last year, so too did Franklin. There are two
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big games so far this year. Notre Dame lost both
of them, including at home. Look, I still think they'll
probably make the College twelve playoff. I think Freeman's great,
But you know, if there was the same level of
freak out at Notre Dame that there has been a
Penn State, he could be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But they're not. I just my feeling is only you
only do this.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
If you feel like you have the answer, and the
answer has to be Matt Rule because of his relationship
with the ad, not just the fact he went there.
It's always weird when a guy who you it feels like,
just finished college like you retired really and like nine years, Like, yeah,
got a bunch of injuries, Like I gotta get it,
Virginia guys, like, yeah, I got I got more going
on in my life than that. Daniel Jeremiah joins us
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year on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
It's not that I don't buy Tua's apology. I guess
I just don't understand. I don't understand why he would
go there, Like initially when everybody heard it, One, he
didn't sound emotional, so it wasn't like it was the
emotions of the game. And two he was calling out
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the leadership when quite honestly, as the quarterback and highest
paid player on the team, he is the he is
part of the leadership. What are your thoughts on what
happened and what's happening in Miami.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I think it's pretty simple, Doug. You know, I haven't
been there at that game. Two, it goes from having
you know, taking them right down the field to throw
the game winning down pass to Darren Waller, and then
their defense which has been atrocious. You know, Let's Chargers
march right now in the field and kick the game
winning field goal to win the game, and I think
some of his you know, some of that was just
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his frustration with you know, the lack of the lack
of support maybe he had there. And I'm guessing that
this defense, which has not been good at all, I'm
guessing that's probably some of the guys that haven't been
you know, showing up the things, and he was very
frustrated with that. Now, you obviously, as a quarterback, you
always take all the blame and you always get you're
supposed to wear all that stuff. But I think that's
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that's my interpretation of it, is that it was probably
some of those defensive guys and he's like, well, it's
not a surprise. You guys don't show up anything and
you can't finish a game that we should have won.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But why not? I mean, it didn't land the way landing.
Is that fair? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
You never as a quarterback, you own everything like it
never does you any good to publicly, you know, put
blame anywhere other than on yourself. And you know, the
only thing I would defend to on a little bit
because I saw some you know, some TV talk about it,
which was, you know, you threw three interceptions. You know,
you start with yourself, and I'm like, well, you didn't
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really watch the game then, because the one interception Waddle
threw up in the air to Tony Jefferson after the
ball was in his chest. And the last, the last
interception Derwin pick when there was five seconds left and
they were on their own thirty you know, it's like
I kind of throw those out. And the third interception
was on a skinny post to a chan you're running
back who Mike McDaniel thought was Steve Larchin had him
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split out wide running a skinny post that got undercont
So to two has not been, you know, is what
he's paid. He hasn't lived up to that by any stretch.
But I actually thought he played decent in that game
and had a game winning drive, but they didn't finish
the ball game.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
What's happened with Mike McDaniel is it? Is it just
a culture is off?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I mean, a here's the guy that was an absolute
media darling and now he's not.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What happened?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I just think it's that fine line of somebody who's
really quirky and different and off the wall, and it's
it's kind of cute and cuddly when you're winning and
it's super odd and weird and off putting when you're losing.
So I mean, I you know, it's just is what
it is. I mean, they're not their roster's got major,
major flaws, and you're losing, and he is not a
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good communicator that he doesn't do it in a traditional sense,
So it makes it kind of look like a little
bit of a clown show when you put all those
things together.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Daniel Jeremia is our guest. You're on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay,
settle debate for us. Jay stew says, Hey, they were
still charging. The only difference is that Herbert broke out
of the grasp what you know, it could have been
a sack to make it a great throw, and Lad
McConkey got them in the field goal range. Did the
Chargers charger and you'd still get to win.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
No, I think I would push back on that and
just say that, you know, in years past, they would
have you know, found a way to not finish that,
and they would have either you know, been sacked in
the game end or in previous kicking garas they would
have missed you know, that field goal at the end
of the game. Now they have the most accurate kicker
in the history of the league, and they've got a quarterback.
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If he's got you know, thirty to forty five seconds
left on the clock, you think you've got you've got
a chance to win the game. Now they busted, he
busted the coverage to give up the touchdown. But they
were better off giving up that touchdown when they did,
as opposed to a down later and having the clock
run out. So I actually thought the fact that they
scored a little early to Waller was uh, was something new.
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It was like the Chargers got a little bit of
a break in that regard.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, he was wide open, though I'm not sure that
that was the break they were trying they were trying
to create.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Before that snap. Before the snap, Dug I said in
the radio call, no matter what, you've got to know
where Darren Waller is down here as his favorite target
down here in the red zone. So you've got to
find him so they you know, they find him for
the touchdown. He's wide open, and and money kind of that.
We went to commercial breaks that I found him. I
found him, he was he was right there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, it was wide wide open. Back Dan Jeremiah is
our guest here. Doug Gottlieb show. People don't know he's
the voice of the Chargers on the Chargers radio network,
ORSIMA on the NFL network, and you hear.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
His podcast Move the Sticks. Uh okay.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So we got to see the Bears now they're head
coach really bothered by the fact that Troy Aikman pointed
out they were kind of lucky with the turnovers to
win that game. What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams
and how he's playing.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
I think that I think two things. I think that
there's definitely been progress, which is good. And with that,
I think that Ben Johnson's learning how to kind of
protect him in some ways, you know, more so than
just the offensive line, but with play calls and giving
him some things and then not giving him some other things.
And and then I also think some of the old
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bad habits aren't totally gone. They're going to show up
at times where occasionally he's going to try and hold
onto the ball, he's going to take a bad stack
here or there, you're gonna missfire. He's gonna overthrow and
missfire in the intermediate portion of the field. Some of
that stuff still shows up, but there's a lot more
times where you're seeing him play on time. You're seeing
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with the screen game and the creativity of the screen
game that's not only slowing down the pass rush, but
it's it's helping him play faster, which I think can
carry over into some of the pure drop back stuff. So,
I mean, I do think Ben Johnson is doing a
masterful job with him, and I think he's getting better.
But I mean I think he's you know, I think
it's gonna be a few years for him to kind
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of fully you know, adapt to a new style and
a new shot clock, so to speak. But he's making progress.
I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, I was,
I'm watching the Philadelphia Eagles last Thursday and like, ooh,
this is not great and the Giants come in and
thump them. Now, I want to give credits to the Giants.
Scataboos give them great energy, right, you change quarterbacks and
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Jackson darts seems to be everything for them. But the
Eagles did not look right. It was like the culmination
of games in which they played with their food and
then they finally get beat.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How fixable are their issues this season.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
I think they have the personnel there to get it fixed.
It just I don't know at this looks a little stale,
you know, and I don't know if some of that
might even be a little bit of boredom that's crept in.
I know you've had a lot of you know, you've
had some turnover there on the coaching side of things,
you lose your offensive coordinator. I know there's frustration brewing,
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but there's a lot of warning signs there before this started.
I mean, you look at the history of two thousand
yards back, you know, and the and the struggle they
have the following year. That's that's proven out there, as
well as you see kind of how Derrick Henry's come
back a little bit with Baltimore, so that we should
have seen that coming, I guess maybe more so than
we did. And an offensive line that you know, even
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if they've got guys out there, they're not fully healthy
and they haven't been a dominant trench team up front.
So I still believe in the roster. I'm hoping this
is just kind of a malaise that that that they're
going to get through as they get towards the end
of the schedule and and on into the postseason, they
have another gear. But yeah, it's concerning what you're seeing
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right now. For sure, it's not great. It's it's not
a good product, and they're very fortunate to have the
number of wins that they have.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
To be honest, what happened to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Defensively? That played terrible obviously against the run that got.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Dashed or the play that's that's that's no.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
I mean, I mean, look, you you you know you
take out three runs and you go, Okay, it wasn't terrible.
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I mean obviously you know that.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
But yeah, you misfit. You misfit three four explosive runs
and that's going to be an ugly box score. And
that's what they did. I don't think they have I've
always thought the sun was a little greater than the
parts for them. Defensively, I don't think they're an elite
talent defense. But I thought they were well coached and
they played hard and they could roll through a lot
of guys, you know, So I don't think they're an elite,
(26:20):
elite dominant defense. And when you're not an elite dominant defense.
You can't afford to micifit gaps and and give them
those types of plays. So I was looking at the
AFC the other day, and you know, in the past
we've talked about, gosh, you almost have to have one
of these elite cyboard gas and quarterbacks to come out
of the AFC, because you're gonna have to go through
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you know, Kansas City, you know Buffalo, Baltimore, you know
Burrough and Cincinnati. You know Houston was on the rise
with C. J. Stroud. And now you look up and
you're like, man, these all these high flying teams of
the last several years, because of injuries and other circumstances,
they don't quite look like the Juggernauts that we that
we remember.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Daniel Jeremiah
is u is our guest. Chargers take on the Colts
this Sunday in Los Angeles. How good are the Colts?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Actually?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
They're playing great, man, They're playing really, really well. The
offensive line is moving people in the run game. Jonathan
Taylor looks as good as he's ever looked. I know
Daniel Jones has got a lot of the attention in
the headlines because of you know, he's playing good, solid football,
but this team is not really built through him. It's
built to that offensive line in the run game, and
then defensively, you know, look, they've lu and Rimos done
(27:37):
a really good job there. They're they're playing, they're playing
really really hard. They've Chris Baward's always been a traits
guy as a GM, so they've got a lot of long, rangy,
athletic guys and uh and they're all playing really really
well and they're they're now, look that's that's not a
fluky five and one. I mean, I've just started really
getting into him as I'm getting ready for this game.
(27:59):
But it's not like, oh, it's just kind of they
haven't played anybody. They're getting all the balances, and they're
gonna come back to Earth. Like I think what they're
doing is sustainable.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's gonna be fantastic to see. How does it feel
to watch the Dodgers dominate? Does that give you like, Well,
we weren't gonna beat the Dodgers anyway.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
I knew. Look, I knew the Pods weren't gonna get
by the Dodge. And I think anybody who's gonna get
by him this year with that rotation. And I mean, look,
those first two games should have been two complete games.
I don't know why they took smell out. They tried
to give that game away, but I mean, that's what
when you spend four hundred and sixty seven million dollars
on those two pitchers. They got what they paid for.
They paid the right guys, so you know, give give
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them credit for that, but nobody's beating that team. They
got four number one starters.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just just a question.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Mike shild is going to retire. Let's see the the
quotations retire. He's fifty seven, that he lives and works
in San Diego. I mean, look, Ben, if you can
afford to do it, great, But did he actually retur
hire or was it the old you're gonna retire Mike.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Well, I don't know. I don't have any information on that.
If fifty seven's young, I know he's going back to
North Carolina, and I love North Carolina, went to college there.
But given my drothers, I think I would rather retire
in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But you think, I mean, or you could or just
work in San Diego where they call it work and
you're sitting there chewing seeds going.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I mean, he's a very intense guy. He's a very
intense guy. So I don't know if that was a
pressure thing. I know it was reported they said that
he got some death threats and stuff. But I'm always
a little bit leary, and I don't want to ever
minimize that because there are crazy people in the world.
But yes, Doug, if you have an opinion, or if
you're a public figure, or if you know, I mean,
it's kind of like everybody gets these crazy people saying
(29:45):
crazy stuff to us. I know, I get it after
a mock draft right out loud. I mean, it's just
kind of that's just kind of the climate they were in. Unfortunately. Yeah,
uh well, real quick, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, of course, if you Uh.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
This is my favorite time of the year now that
we have some coaching vacancies. My favorite thing is the
every agent giving the speech to their coach and their
client saying, remember we, uh, we're focused on where we
are right now. A lot of respect for that other
school slash organization, but you know what, I'm not I'm
not gonna think or talk about that neat place at
(30:22):
a lot of great people there, but I'm focused to
where I am right now. The old say nothing, so
I can either get an extension where I am or
invite that offer from the other school.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, it's like Marcus Freeman, like Penn State's gonna pursue
Marcus Freeman like they may. But obviously rule is the
is give me their first choice. That feels like the
agent putting it out there. So Marcus Freeman has to
gets an extension at some point very soon.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, he's gonna James Franklin's gonna get a lot of
people paid.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I tell you that much, no question about it. Thanks
so much, Daniel, I appreciate it, anybuddy.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
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(31:26):
me get you to the great Isaac Lowencron for the press,
I love.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
The press, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Done? Today, Miami Dolphins quarterback to a tongue of Iloa
apologize for his comments after Sunday's lost to the Chargers
when he called out his teammates for showing up late
to players only meetings or for missing them. Entirely, here
was the entirety of Chow his statement this afternoon.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
Listen, I would say I've made a mistake, and I'm
owning up to that right now. You know, I've talked
to guys on a team about it, talk to the
leaders about it, and you know that they know my heart.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
They know that.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
The intent was right. But no matter the intent, you know,
the intent can be right. But when things get misconstrued
or however the media wants to portray it, you know
that that leaves a void of silence and a lot
of questions for the guys on our team now being
one in five, you know, we talk a lot about
(32:28):
all right, We we got to get this going. We
got to get this going, come in excited to go
to work, forget about the noise. And I feel like
I just added onto that for our guys, you know,
for for myself, I got to look at myself as
as the leader protecting the team. I don't feel like
I I did that to the best of my abilities.
(32:51):
I felt like I let the emotions of the game
get to me after the game, and you know, that's
something that I can learn from as a leader on
this team. And what happens in house should be protected
and none of that should have gotten out. And so
I want to publicly apologize about that. I want to
move forward and now I want to focus on Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So there was his full statement, Doug.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I just don't understand why he needed to be told
that that was the wrong thing to do. But I
don't understand that. I don't understand it. So I get
that he's frustrated. I get that there's more behind it.
Everyone knew that was not the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You ain't the only one, apparently. I mean, he says
at the end that he wanted to apologize publicly. The
ironic thing is here. I think I'm using ironic in
the right sense. Everything should have been kept in house,
including the apology. If you apologize to your teammates, then
you tell the press today everything's being taken care of
(33:58):
in house. I apologize to them. And also I didn't
hear that part about the media, the misconstruing by the media,
that almost takes away from the apology.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
How dare you misconstrue by reporting exactly what I said?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
It's like filled with contradictions. This this statement today? What
a weird again?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
It worse?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Can I Can I say something which I think we
probably think from listening but people won't say.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But I'm going to say, I don't think he's very bright.
I just don't. I just don't. Does not strike me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It does not strike me as quarterback bright, likable, yeah, affable, sure,
But I mean he just it very much sounded sort
of robotic. I mean, the blaming the media is I mean,
that's that's obviously. People think that worked for him. They
all do it, right, But I don't know. He just
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strikes me as somebody without as much wherewithal as I
would think he would normally have.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I would think, But what do I know, uh what else.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Okay, So the background of this is that yesterday the
Boston Celtics, the reporters who covered the Boston Celtics team,
they were going to have the Celtics host a pickup
game for Celtics reporters at their practice facility to play
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against each other, you know, fun little little thing here
as we wind down training camp. They show up yesterday
and Joe Missoula, the head coach, says, no, no, no,
it's actually not going to be a media versus media game.
It is going to be a media versus our coaching
staff game. Coaching staff includes Missoula himself, guys like Phil Pressey,
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Deshaun Butler, et cetera, et cetera. So the Celtics coaches
played the Celtics reporters in a twelve minute game Doug
sixty one total points were scored. So I want you
to tell me what the final score was. Twelve minute game,
sixty one points were scored. How many points were scored
by the media versus media versus the Celtics coach close
(36:23):
It was fifty seven to four the coaches over the
media yesterday at the Celtics training facility. And so my
question is are you inspired by this? Will we have
a Green Bay Phoenix coaching staff versus local media game
this season.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I don't think it's a bad idea. I don't think
it'll be well. I mean, I have Carrie Rupp who's
seventy one years old, but he moves really well. I
have Andy Ground who's sixty three years old. He does
not move as well. I'm I'm we all had to
at the start of the year, we all. I made
everybody run sprints because I didn't think the energy was
right and for some reason those old coaches got on
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the line and then they were in traction for a week.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I do have enough.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I got Eric Sanders, who played at San News State.
I get Jerry Smith, who just got done playing professionally
played Louisville. Uh we stick keel Gans out there with
me and and uh Cayden the captain, my.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Director of Bass Bops. We'll be fine. Sure we'll take
on some local media guys.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Jason, have you ever played in one of these Dodgers
media games.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wish, I wish I could be invited and I
didn't have to work midday radio. But I have heard
Kyle Masan has an amazing crossover. Is he.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Mason's a beast in the post.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's this edision of the press, get out there and press.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Kyle Mason getting a little love.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
All Right, It's Doug gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm I'm just i gotta be honest with you. I'm
bummed that we got Toronto Seattle. Maybe Toronto makes it
a series. We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Coming to here from the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Beautiful Combines Comfines Combines Confines of Green Bay, Wisconsin, Sherman Oaks, California.
I hope you're doing great. We think Jason Stewart's in
a decent mood. Right decent mood to me. As Dodgers
are of two games and none, it doesn't appear to
be like the like the Brewers are going to be
super competitive. I guess Jay stew we'll get to midway.
(00:46):
But I know nobody wants to count their chickens before
they're hatched. But she gotta be filming pretty good today
with the Dodgers up two games none and such outstanding
starting pitching, and you haven't even gotten much from show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey yet, I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't think Isaac has heard this analogy, so I
think he'll enjoy it and appreciate it. And for those
listeners who haven't heard it, I've likened being a Dodger
fan to being the child of a drunk. So your
pops is a drunk and you live in this tormented
world where even on the days when he comes home sober,
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you live the entire day fearing about the guy that
was going to show up. I think I share a
lot of Dodger fans view on this and that we
never know which team's going to show up. I could
be happy today, but I liken it too when you
invite your friends over for a sleepover and the good
dad shows up and the friends like, man, what a
cool guy. He's awesome. You know he gave us one
(01:44):
hundred bucks for a thirty dollars pizza.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm in a good spot right now. But for those
that watch this team every day, you know that anything
can happen at any minute. Does that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I will wow? That escalated quickly. Yeah you know what?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I could actually say that that perfectly captures the emotions
for most sports fans out there about their favorite team.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's like you'll keep going back from more regardless of it.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a little harsh in regards
to the Dodgers, like there their outcomes have not been
there has not been that wide a variance in it,
Like why do you think it happened? Like, well, they
win like two thirds of the time, Jason, and they've
been pretty good in the playoffs. So yeah, I mean
I get it you're tormented by past playoff failures and
(02:44):
in no in no way should we chalk this up
as hey, that's a dub, that's a win, no question
about it. On the other hand, there is a portion
of it where you go, dude, you're up two games
to none. This thing appears to over. It's just a
matter of how many Like do you really think the
Brewers can win four of what five games?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Four or five games? Do you think they can win
four or five games off the Dodgers?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, they're the best team in the regular season, right,
they've gone on.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's never been that has never been a determinant into
who can be successful in the postseason in Major League Baseball, ever,
it's the one sport where the regular season truly doesn't matter.
It just does not in terms of determined. It's a
different sport once you get to the postseason. I don't
think you wouldn't argue that, would you.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh no, no, It's one of my biggest criticisms of
the Baseball playoffs. But I do remember telling Brewer fans,
namely Dan Byer and August I think the Brewers had
won some like ridiculous amount, like thirty out of thirty
one or something crazy. And I'm like, I remember our
Dodgers in twenty seventeen when they had went on a
similar streak. In August, Sports Illustrated came out with best
(03:59):
Ring you Were Season ever, and then they went on
to lose and then lose in the postseason. So yeah,
you're right, two different seasons, two different teams.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Maybe let's uh, let's do this. We do this every Wednesday.
It's the middle of the week, the middle of the day. Frankly,
the middle of the show. We're like middle of the show,
your two hours. No, no, we have the hour podcast,
which goes live as soon as this show's Oh, we
can download wherever you download podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's get to the midway. He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It's time for the middle. The midway.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Jason Stewart. What's the topic?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'll take it from here. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I sent this message to the group text and I
was hoping to get a lot of good feedback. Guys.
Today we have a chance at a pure midway. What
does that mean? You say, the middle of the show,
the middle of the day, middle of the week, middle
of the month, Doug. And also for most college football teams,
(04:59):
the very middle of the regular season. This is a
pure midway. So many middles, more middles than a I
know Isaac could think of something more witty than I can.
But anyways, what's storyline right now in college football most
has your attention? I want you to pick one. I
(05:19):
want you to drill down on it. Why is it
so interesting to you? And to be honest, our guy,
Ryan Smith filling in for Iowa Sam, Today's got a
really good one, Ryan Smith, what's the most intriguing storyline
right now in college football?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For you?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I do?
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Oh, yeah, I do yeah. So I love train wrecks
and well, Penn State needs a coach and the rumor
is they want Marcus Freeman. Well, guess what, They're not
gonna get him, and I'm wondering what their backup plan
is or if they even have a backup plan. And
I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show because
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I believe this is going to be a train wreck.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Tull.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
He's got an easy answer for that one, right, Penn
State's got one choice.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, it's Matt rule.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If they don't get Matt Ruhle, it'll be a trade wrecker,
just because I mean, it's just it's a little too simple.
He's in the league, he did a great job turning
around Temple, he went there, he's close with the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like this one seems really easy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't believe for one second that an athletic director
who has a lifetime friendship with a high level coach
who's like that, he'll go and he go anywhere else
in then why, Because the relationship has to be a
really strong one in order to succeed.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Has to be. If you're athletic director, you aren't on
the same page. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Same thing with the president and those guys are Penn
State guys, they're good friends. If it doesn't end up there, yeah,
then it now becomes weird.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And probably a trader.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I personally said. I personally said before the season that
my most I think the favorite thing that I'm looking
forward to following is arch Mannings season. I want to
watch Arch's arc and it has been up and down.
I think mostly down or mid. You know, there was
always this thing where teams like the Saints were going
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to tank tank for arch I don't think that's a
thing anymore. I don't think he's the consensus number one
overall pick after six games of the college football season.
I could be wrong, and I don't even think he
needs to come out this year. I remember his granddad,
Archie before the season, told that random magazine that it's
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not even the foregone conclusion that he'll come out after
this season. So I think at the midway point, in
my very pedestrian, average college football casual viewpoint, I don't
think arch Manning is the number one overall pick in
the draft. So I think we could stop all the
narratives about these teams tanking for number one, right. I
(08:08):
don't think the Jets take it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I think they're taking for him. I think they're tanking
for the best possibility of drafting a quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh yeah, no, that's that's always a thing. But I
mean Arch isn't the guy right, because that was the
kind of the off season thing, tank for Arch, lose
for Arch. Could we do away with that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah? We can? Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I love I'm actually going to go with the two
Los Angeles teams completely out of nowhere, starting with USC
which took a big step in making a believer out
of me with not only beating Michigan last week, but
the way they beat Michigan last week. And you want
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to talk about a potential springboard to a whole new level,
what do you know at Notre Dame this weekend? And
then you couple that with something that completely.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Came out of nowhere.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You have UCLA, which we've been making fun of their
lack of attendance and the whole Deshaun Foster thing was
a disaster, and out of nowhere they beat Penn State.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They set that particular ball in motion.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
And then I'm like, oh, all right, hey, this is
what they're going to remember for this year, you know,
whatever is going to happen. And then Tim Skipper, the
interim head coach, challenges them. He puts, are you going
to be a one hit wonder on the team plane
on their way to Michigan State, and then they not
only win at Michigan State, but they thrash them. So
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suddenly you have the two LA programs being really interesting
stories out of nowhere, and we'll see where it goes
from the UCLA standpoint with Tim Skipper as the.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Interim head coach.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Consequently, this leads to a side side light that maybe
you guys can opine on where does James Franklin wind
up next season? Could UCLA be where he winds up?
But I just I'm fascinating, fascinated by the fact that
just within the last couple of weeks, both Los Angeles
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teams have suddenly made themselves relevant in college football.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, I think that's one thing that's interesting about it
is we heard so much about, Hey, these West Coast
schools come into the Midwest. Travel's gonna hurt them, Weather's
gonna hurt them, They're gonna get thumped, And well then
I saw USC UCLA, Oregon did beat Penn State before
losing at home to Indiana, But I saw them all
get huge road winds and tough environments against good teams.
(10:53):
So like, what are we actually doing like what it's
not the big bead wolf.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've never understood that.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You're right because when we're talking about football, you're going
on a charter flight the day.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Also, people don't understand how far Washington State is from Tucson,
Arizona or U c l A. Like there are there
if you're flying there anyway, it's not like you're busting.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
To these games, right and you can give and so
it's I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're not connecting through Oakland. I would say it's it's
much more difficult.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
For say the volleyball teams for example, that have to
travel commercial halfway across the country, which the football teams,
you know, they don't have to change planes.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They're going direct and it's chartered.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I have one thing, one a couple of things, uh
my two takeaways from Isaac's point. Uh First and foremost,
how bad a coach must is seawan walked, foster bait
sewn foster bit must be awful. And then second, I
have a suggestion for the U. C l A band
you know that play in front of the eight thousand
people at the Rose Bowl. I think they need to
(11:57):
work Gilligan's Islands theme into their repertoire and then at
the at the great point, at the at the part
when they need to do it, just be like Tim
Skipper ran the Mary.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ann here running.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Tim Skipper ram Mary An.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You guys understand it eventually. I did come from skip
Mary And.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Is Jerry Neuheisel the little buddy.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's a good one. Probably a little buddy. That's a
really good call. Good call, all right?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So what am I most in drinked by by with
college football? I mean, obviously the coaching firings like so
early the year is an easy one that I've I've
kind of kind of railed on.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I just.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
The SEC is so much better than everybody else, and
I just wonder what if we're still going to be
a year late in our.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Analysis of it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Last year you had a couple of SEC teams not
getting the College Wall playoffs, Alabama one, what Tennessee was another,
and instead they took other other programs.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I just don't think they can this year. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Last year you would have said, Okay, maybe I can
see it because the SEC seemed to be a little
bit down. There was much more parody. I just don't
see the parody this year. I don't if Penn State,
especially that Drew Aller, they're out. So in the Big Ten,
you have Indiana, we have Oregon, and you have Ohio State.
Those three, there's nobody else to go. No one else's
(13:37):
is worthy. He is going to climb that. I mean,
maybe USC but man, they gotta they gotta beat Notre Dame,
which I don't think happens. They gotta win games here
at the end of the year possible, right with the
only loss being went.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
To Illinois and the road.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I just I look at the SEC and I think
it's a It's a league that was dominant an il
comes out and some of the investments were bad, some
of the teams are bad. Now it's just amazing. It's
an amazing league. It's way better than everybody else. And
when I call out a league, I'm not saying the
Big Ten. I think the Big Ten is second, maybe
not a close second this year because the injuries, especially quarterbacks.
(14:16):
But I think the comparison to Big ten SEC and
like Big twelve ACC, you have a gigantic cap.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now I'm not saying Miami.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Miami has loaded up financially and they have it all
for a college football team. But overall, the ACC is
pales in comparison. Overall the Big twelve pales in comparison.
Those are good teams. It's just a different lower level
of football because of the financial investment the SEC and the.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Big ten A may anybody else boom Midway the Midway.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, So there's report out there that Penn State will
pursue Marcus Freeman, right, do.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We buy this?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, on some level, yeah, I mean last year, I
mean Marcus Freeman was a good player. Looks the part
family man. Take a Notre Dame back to not just
the College fball playoff, but to the finals, you know
where they had to beat Penn State along the way.
All that makes sense with exception of the fact that
(15:40):
why would you leave Notre Dame for Penn State? And
then you factor in the obvious Matt rule potential higher
they'll flush out Matt rule first. And don't get me wrong,
I think it's smart to go like tick the tires
on on on Freeman. And here's how it works, right,
he has an agent and they're like, yeah, are you interested?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He ends up getting floated. And you know, when you
have this long a lead up to the season being over,
Marcus Raymond will have a contract extension by the time
you get then and you get there anyway, and oh yeah,
by the way, like, here's the crazy part about Marcus Freeman.
Who won a couple of games in the College Twell
Playoff last year, so too did Franklin. There are two
(16:27):
big games so far this year. Notre Dame lost both
of them, including at home. Look, I still think they'll
probably make the College twelve playoff. I think Freeman's great,
But you know, if there was the same level of
freak out at Notre Dame that there has been a
Penn State, he could be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But they're not. I just my feeling is only you
only do this.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
If you feel like you have the answer, and the
answer has to be Matt Rule because of his relationship
with the ad, not just the fact he went there.
It's always weird when a guy who you it feels like,
just finished college like you retired really and like nine years, Like, yeah,
got a bunch of injuries, Like I gotta get it,
Virginia guys, like, yeah, I got I got more going
on in my life than that. Daniel Jeremiah joins us
(17:16):
year on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
It's not that I don't buy Tua's apology. I guess
I just don't understand. I don't understand why he would
go there, Like initially when everybody heard it, One, he
didn't sound emotional, so it wasn't like it was the
emotions of the game. And two he was calling out
(17:38):
the leadership when quite honestly, as the quarterback and highest
paid player on the team, he is the he is
part of the leadership. What are your thoughts on what
happened and what's happening in Miami.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I think it's pretty simple, Doug. You know, I haven't
been there at that game. Two, it goes from having
you know, taking them right down the field to throw
the game winning down pass to Darren Waller, and then
their defense which has been atrocious. You know, Let's Chargers
march right now in the field and kick the game
winning field goal to win the game, and I think
some of his you know, some of that was just
(18:12):
his frustration with you know, the lack of the lack
of support maybe he had there. And I'm guessing that
this defense, which has not been good at all, I'm
guessing that's probably some of the guys that haven't been
you know, showing up the things, and he was very
frustrated with that. Now, you obviously, as a quarterback, you
always take all the blame and you always get you're
supposed to wear all that stuff. But I think that's
(18:36):
that's my interpretation of it, is that it was probably
some of those defensive guys and he's like, well, it's
not a surprise. You guys don't show up anything and
you can't finish a game that we should have won.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But why not? I mean, it didn't land the way landing.
Is that fair? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
You never as a quarterback, you own everything like it
never does you any good to publicly, you know, put
blame anywhere other than on yourself. And you know, the
only thing I would defend to on a little bit
because I saw some you know, some TV talk about it,
which was, you know, you threw three interceptions. You know,
you start with yourself, and I'm like, well, you didn't
(19:15):
really watch the game then, because the one interception Waddle
threw up in the air to Tony Jefferson after the
ball was in his chest. And the last, the last
interception Derwin pick when there was five seconds left and
they were on their own thirty you know, it's like
I kind of throw those out. And the third interception
was on a skinny post to a chan you're running
back who Mike McDaniel thought was Steve Larchin had him
(19:37):
split out wide running a skinny post that got undercont
So to two has not been, you know, is what
he's paid. He hasn't lived up to that by any stretch.
But I actually thought he played decent in that game
and had a game winning drive, but they didn't finish
the ball game.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
What's happened with Mike McDaniel is it? Is it just
a culture is off?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I mean, a here's the guy that was an absolute
media darling and now he's not.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What happened?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I just think it's that fine line of somebody who's
really quirky and different and off the wall, and it's
it's kind of cute and cuddly when you're winning and
it's super odd and weird and off putting when you're losing.
So I mean, I you know, it's just is what
it is. I mean, they're not their roster's got major,
major flaws, and you're losing, and he is not a
(20:29):
good communicator that he doesn't do it in a traditional sense,
So it makes it kind of look like a little
bit of a clown show when you put all those
things together.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Daniel Jeremia is our guest. You're on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay,
settle debate for us. Jay stew says, Hey, they were
still charging. The only difference is that Herbert broke out
of the grasp what you know, it could have been
a sack to make it a great throw, and Lad
McConkey got them in the field goal range. Did the
Chargers charger and you'd still get to win.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
No, I think I would push back on that and
just say that, you know, in years past, they would
have you know, found a way to not finish that,
and they would have either you know, been sacked in
the game end or in previous kicking garas they would
have missed you know, that field goal at the end
of the game. Now they have the most accurate kicker
in the history of the league, and they've got a quarterback.
(21:23):
If he's got you know, thirty to forty five seconds
left on the clock, you think you've got you've got
a chance to win the game. Now they busted, he
busted the coverage to give up the touchdown. But they
were better off giving up that touchdown when they did,
as opposed to a down later and having the clock
run out. So I actually thought the fact that they
scored a little early to Waller was uh, was something new.
(21:44):
It was like the Chargers got a little bit of
a break in that regard.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, he was wide open, though I'm not sure that
that was the break they were trying they were trying
to create.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Before that snap. Before the snap, Dug I said in
the radio call, no matter what, you've got to know
where Darren Waller is down here as his favorite target
down here in the red zone. So you've got to
find him so they you know, they find him for
the touchdown. He's wide open, and and money kind of that.
We went to commercial breaks that I found him. I
found him, he was he was right there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, it was wide wide open. Back Dan Jeremiah is
our guest here. Doug Gottlieb show. People don't know he's
the voice of the Chargers on the Chargers radio network,
ORSIMA on the NFL network, and you hear.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
His podcast Move the Sticks. Uh okay.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So we got to see the Bears now they're head
coach really bothered by the fact that Troy Aikman pointed
out they were kind of lucky with the turnovers to
win that game. What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams
and how he's playing.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
I think that I think two things. I think that
there's definitely been progress, which is good. And with that,
I think that Ben Johnson's learning how to kind of
protect him in some ways, you know, more so than
just the offensive line, but with play calls and giving
him some things and then not giving him some other things.
And and then I also think some of the old
(23:02):
bad habits aren't totally gone. They're going to show up
at times where occasionally he's going to try and hold
onto the ball, he's going to take a bad stack
here or there, you're gonna missfire. He's gonna overthrow and
missfire in the intermediate portion of the field. Some of
that stuff still shows up, but there's a lot more
times where you're seeing him play on time. You're seeing
(23:22):
with the screen game and the creativity of the screen
game that's not only slowing down the pass rush, but
it's it's helping him play faster, which I think can
carry over into some of the pure drop back stuff. So,
I mean, I do think Ben Johnson is doing a
masterful job with him, and I think he's getting better.
But I mean I think he's you know, I think
it's gonna be a few years for him to kind
(23:43):
of fully you know, adapt to a new style and
a new shot clock, so to speak. But he's making progress.
I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, I was,
I'm watching the Philadelphia Eagles last Thursday and like, ooh,
this is not great and the Giants come in and
thump them. Now, I want to give credits to the Giants.
Scataboos give them great energy, right, you change quarterbacks and
(24:12):
Jackson darts seems to be everything for them. But the
Eagles did not look right. It was like the culmination
of games in which they played with their food and
then they finally get beat.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How fixable are their issues this season.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
I think they have the personnel there to get it fixed.
It just I don't know at this looks a little stale,
you know, and I don't know if some of that
might even be a little bit of boredom that's crept in.
I know you've had a lot of you know, you've
had some turnover there on the coaching side of things,
you lose your offensive coordinator. I know there's frustration brewing,
(24:47):
but there's a lot of warning signs there before this started.
I mean, you look at the history of two thousand
yards back, you know, and the and the struggle they
have the following year. That's that's proven out there, as
well as you see kind of how Derrick Henry's come
back a little bit with Baltimore, so that we should
have seen that coming, I guess maybe more so than
we did. And an offensive line that you know, even
(25:08):
if they've got guys out there, they're not fully healthy
and they haven't been a dominant trench team up front.
So I still believe in the roster. I'm hoping this
is just kind of a malaise that that that they're
going to get through as they get towards the end
of the schedule and and on into the postseason, they
have another gear. But yeah, it's concerning what you're seeing
(25:29):
right now. For sure, it's not great. It's it's not
a good product, and they're very fortunate to have the
number of wins that they have.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
To be honest, what happened to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Defensively? That played terrible obviously against the run that got.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Dashed or the play that's that's that's no.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
I mean, I mean, look, you you you know you
take out three runs and you go, Okay, it wasn't terrible.
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I mean obviously you know that.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
But yeah, you misfit. You misfit three four explosive runs
and that's going to be an ugly box score. And
that's what they did. I don't think they have I've
always thought the sun was a little greater than the
parts for them. Defensively, I don't think they're an elite
talent defense. But I thought they were well coached and
they played hard and they could roll through a lot
of guys, you know, So I don't think they're an elite,
(26:20):
elite dominant defense. And when you're not an elite dominant defense.
You can't afford to micifit gaps and and give them
those types of plays. So I was looking at the
AFC the other day, and you know, in the past
we've talked about, gosh, you almost have to have one
of these elite cyboard gas and quarterbacks to come out
of the AFC, because you're gonna have to go through
(26:40):
you know, Kansas City, you know Buffalo, Baltimore, you know
Burrough and Cincinnati. You know Houston was on the rise
with C. J. Stroud. And now you look up and
you're like, man, these all these high flying teams of
the last several years, because of injuries and other circumstances,
they don't quite look like the Juggernauts that we that
we remember.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Daniel Jeremiah
is u is our guest. Chargers take on the Colts
this Sunday in Los Angeles. How good are the Colts?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Actually?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
They're playing great, man, They're playing really, really well. The
offensive line is moving people in the run game. Jonathan
Taylor looks as good as he's ever looked. I know
Daniel Jones has got a lot of the attention in
the headlines because of you know, he's playing good, solid football,
but this team is not really built through him. It's
built to that offensive line in the run game, and
then defensively, you know, look, they've lu and Rimos done
(27:37):
a really good job there. They're they're playing, they're playing
really really hard. They've Chris Baward's always been a traits
guy as a GM, so they've got a lot of long, rangy,
athletic guys and uh and they're all playing really really
well and they're they're now, look that's that's not a
fluky five and one. I mean, I've just started really
getting into him as I'm getting ready for this game.
(27:59):
But it's not like, oh, it's just kind of they
haven't played anybody. They're getting all the balances, and they're
gonna come back to Earth. Like I think what they're
doing is sustainable.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's gonna be fantastic to see. How does it feel
to watch the Dodgers dominate? Does that give you like, Well,
we weren't gonna beat the Dodgers anyway.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
I knew. Look, I knew the Pods weren't gonna get
by the Dodge. And I think anybody who's gonna get
by him this year with that rotation. And I mean, look,
those first two games should have been two complete games.
I don't know why they took smell out. They tried
to give that game away, but I mean, that's what
when you spend four hundred and sixty seven million dollars
on those two pitchers. They got what they paid for.
They paid the right guys, so you know, give give
(28:38):
them credit for that, but nobody's beating that team. They
got four number one starters.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just just a question.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Mike shild is going to retire. Let's see the the
quotations retire. He's fifty seven, that he lives and works
in San Diego. I mean, look, Ben, if you can
afford to do it, great, But did he actually retur
hire or was it the old you're gonna retire Mike.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Well, I don't know. I don't have any information on that.
If fifty seven's young, I know he's going back to
North Carolina, and I love North Carolina, went to college there.
But given my drothers, I think I would rather retire
in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But you think, I mean, or you could or just
work in San Diego where they call it work and
you're sitting there chewing seeds going.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I mean, he's a very intense guy. He's a very
intense guy. So I don't know if that was a
pressure thing. I know it was reported they said that
he got some death threats and stuff. But I'm always
a little bit leary, and I don't want to ever
minimize that because there are crazy people in the world.
But yes, Doug, if you have an opinion, or if
you're a public figure, or if you know, I mean,
it's kind of like everybody gets these crazy people saying
(29:45):
crazy stuff to us. I know, I get it after
a mock draft right out loud. I mean, it's just
kind of that's just kind of the climate they were in. Unfortunately. Yeah,
uh well, real quick, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, of course, if you Uh.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
This is my favorite time of the year now that
we have some coaching vacancies. My favorite thing is the
every agent giving the speech to their coach and their
client saying, remember we, uh, we're focused on where we
are right now. A lot of respect for that other
school slash organization, but you know what, I'm not I'm
not gonna think or talk about that neat place at
(30:22):
a lot of great people there, but I'm focused to
where I am right now. The old say nothing, so
I can either get an extension where I am or
invite that offer from the other school.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, it's like Marcus Freeman, like Penn State's gonna pursue
Marcus Freeman like they may. But obviously rule is the
is give me their first choice. That feels like the
agent putting it out there. So Marcus Freeman has to
gets an extension at some point very soon.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, he's gonna James Franklin's gonna get a lot of
people paid.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I tell you that much, no question about it. Thanks
so much, Daniel, I appreciate it, anybuddy.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
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(31:26):
me get you to the great Isaac Lowencron for the press,
I love.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
The press, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Done? Today, Miami Dolphins quarterback to a tongue of Iloa
apologize for his comments after Sunday's lost to the Chargers
when he called out his teammates for showing up late
to players only meetings or for missing them. Entirely, here
was the entirety of Chow his statement this afternoon.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
Listen, I would say I've made a mistake, and I'm
owning up to that right now. You know, I've talked
to guys on a team about it, talk to the
leaders about it, and you know that they know my heart.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
They know that.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
The intent was right. But no matter the intent, you know,
the intent can be right. But when things get misconstrued
or however the media wants to portray it, you know
that that leaves a void of silence and a lot
of questions for the guys on our team now being
one in five, you know, we talk a lot about
(32:28):
all right, We we got to get this going. We
got to get this going, come in excited to go
to work, forget about the noise. And I feel like
I just added onto that for our guys, you know,
for for myself, I got to look at myself as
as the leader protecting the team. I don't feel like
I I did that to the best of my abilities.
(32:51):
I felt like I let the emotions of the game
get to me after the game, and you know, that's
something that I can learn from as a leader on
this team. And what happens in house should be protected
and none of that should have gotten out. And so
I want to publicly apologize about that. I want to
move forward and now I want to focus on Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So there was his full statement, Doug.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I just don't understand why he needed to be told
that that was the wrong thing to do. But I
don't understand that. I don't understand it. So I get
that he's frustrated. I get that there's more behind it.
Everyone knew that was not the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You ain't the only one, apparently. I mean, he says
at the end that he wanted to apologize publicly. The
ironic thing is here. I think I'm using ironic in
the right sense. Everything should have been kept in house,
including the apology. If you apologize to your teammates, then
you tell the press today everything's being taken care of
(33:58):
in house. I apologize to them. And also I didn't
hear that part about the media, the misconstruing by the media,
that almost takes away from the apology.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
How dare you misconstrue by reporting exactly what I said?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
It's like filled with contradictions. This this statement today? What
a weird again?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
It worse?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Can I Can I say something which I think we
probably think from listening but people won't say.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But I'm going to say, I don't think he's very bright.
I just don't. I just don't. Does not strike me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It does not strike me as quarterback bright, likable, yeah, affable, sure,
But I mean he just it very much sounded sort
of robotic. I mean, the blaming the media is I mean,
that's that's obviously. People think that worked for him. They
all do it, right, But I don't know. He just
(35:03):
strikes me as somebody without as much wherewithal as I
would think he would normally have.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I would think, But what do I know, uh what else.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Okay, So the background of this is that yesterday the
Boston Celtics, the reporters who covered the Boston Celtics team,
they were going to have the Celtics host a pickup
game for Celtics reporters at their practice facility to play
(35:37):
against each other, you know, fun little little thing here
as we wind down training camp. They show up yesterday
and Joe Missoula, the head coach, says, no, no, no,
it's actually not going to be a media versus media game.
It is going to be a media versus our coaching
staff game. Coaching staff includes Missoula himself, guys like Phil Pressey,
(36:00):
Deshaun Butler, et cetera, et cetera. So the Celtics coaches
played the Celtics reporters in a twelve minute game Doug
sixty one total points were scored. So I want you
to tell me what the final score was. Twelve minute game,
sixty one points were scored. How many points were scored
by the media versus media versus the Celtics coach close
(36:23):
It was fifty seven to four the coaches over the
media yesterday at the Celtics training facility. And so my
question is are you inspired by this? Will we have
a Green Bay Phoenix coaching staff versus local media game
this season.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I don't think it's a bad idea. I don't think
it'll be well. I mean, I have Carrie Rupp who's
seventy one years old, but he moves really well. I
have Andy Ground who's sixty three years old. He does
not move as well. I'm I'm we all had to
at the start of the year, we all. I made
everybody run sprints because I didn't think the energy was
right and for some reason those old coaches got on
(37:05):
the line and then they were in traction for a week.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I do have enough.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I got Eric Sanders, who played at San News State.
I get Jerry Smith, who just got done playing professionally
played Louisville. Uh we stick keel Gans out there with
me and and uh Cayden the captain, my.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Director of Bass Bops. We'll be fine. Sure we'll take
on some local media guys.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Jason, have you ever played in one of these Dodgers
media games.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wish, I wish I could be invited and I
didn't have to work midday radio. But I have heard
Kyle Masan has an amazing crossover. Is he.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Mason's a beast in the post.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's this edision of the press, get out there and press.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Kyle Mason getting a little love.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
All Right, It's Doug gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm I'm just i gotta be honest with you. I'm
bummed that we got Toronto Seattle. Maybe Toronto makes it
a series. We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
We'll be back tomorrow on The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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