November 9, 2018 • 43 mins
Doug tells you why the Steelers RB situation with Le'Veon Bell and James Conner reminds him of the QB situation the Cowboys had in 2016 with Dak Prescott and Tony Romo. He also reacts to the breaking news that WR Dez Bryant is out already with an injury in his first practice with the Saints. Broncos DE Bradley Chubb joins the show to tell Doug if he's going to break the rookie sack record.
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are in fact two queen cities, one queen city of Sincenati.
The other one is Carolina, where they're licking their wounds,
uh because the Panthers got blown out. John Middlecoff will
join us. Former NFL Scout three Now podcast host. He'll
join us in about fifteen minutes. See if he agrees
with my my dissertation. Bradley Chub, who's had an outstanding
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beginning to his career with the Denver Broncos, on pace
to set the all time rookie sack mark held by
Javon Kurse fourteen point five. He'll join us in one hour.
J Glazer will join us in an hour and twenty minutes.
Why why Why isn't Dez Bryant ready to go? Des
Bryant will not play the game. I'm gonna getting a
chance to call on radio with Brian Baldinger on Compass
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Radio Networks. Um, so the Saints are gonna come in
play in the cold. Like Look, if there's a question
about the Saints, it's always been can you play in
the cold outside of the Dome? And they're coming off
a huge win over the Rams taking on a Bengals
team that won't have a j Green. So, yeah, they
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will have Joe Mixon, they well have Gio Bernard, they
will have Tyler Boyd, but they won't have and they're
working through what looks like a healthy offensive line. We'll
see if they have Vont's perfect. We've got a lot
to get to. Jay Glazier will join us in an
hour and fifteen minutes plus. We'll ask him about Levian Bell.
Joel Clatt will join us in the third hour of
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the show. That's five twenty on the East to twenty
on the West. We'll talk about college football. Where Ohio
State is in You can't lose you you you get
no more mulligance, no more breakfast balls. As they take
on Michigan State, who I would guess I would I
would throw out there is the most overrated team in
the country. That's Michigan State. Utterly and completely unimpressive in
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so many key opportunities. But we'll see this weekend. So
uh we have my picks, and uh they will be
better than last week because it couldn't be any worse.
This is the doug Otlieb Show. Hey, am I gonna
get credit for Thursday night football as well? I just
this is a question Rye Music. You know you tweaked
me because I knew I picked Monday Night Monday correctly,
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I get no credit from Monday. Then, of course you
try and change it on air and edit it as
we go, as I had the wy Niners. Then, not
only did I say Pittsburgh would win in Pittsburgh Recover,
I said Pittsburgh big Lee. Isn't that what I said? Yes,
that is what I said yesterday. That is in fact correct.
Thank you, Thank you, I appreciate I just you know,
it's like I look at my record, and while it's good,
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while it's above five hundred and if people follow my picks,
they're in the money. My picks in reality, like if
you go with every pick, we're in the zone. That's
what we're doing. But the last my staff does not
want to go back and judge Thursday night and Monday
night games because apparently they don't count. I don't know.
I don't understand that one. It's like b y U basketball.
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Suddenly they're gonna go back and redact some my wins.
All right, let's get to last night. Um, I don't
want to go overreact and tell you Carolina stinks or
that Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is awesome. But in the context of
last night, Carolina stunk and Pittsburgh was awesome. It's Thursday
night home team has a distinct advantage, and this was
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the explosive offense we thought we would see from the
Pittsburgh Steelers. It should also be mentioned this is really
really important as part of the point I want to
make the style that the Steelers play. Yes, they've been
able to run the football with James Connor a lot,
but the style having that amount of talent at wide
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receiver and having two pass catching tight ends who caught
touchdown passes last night. That's the style that seems to
be one that will play better in two thousand eighteen. Then,
for example, the Carolina Panthers, who not only can run it,
but also can run it with their quarterback. That just
is the rules are set up to help Pittsburgh more.
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But I'm getting the feeling that James Conner is starting
to get Dak Prescott like deity status. James Conner is
having a good year, and people want to point out
that James Conner is having a better year than Levian
Bell had last year. And statistically, you can point to
several key factors that are right. But let's go back
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to yesterday and let me edupicate you on the National
Football League. You can no longer take gross stats. You
just can't. You can't do yardage well, it's and it's
a joke that the NFL does the best defenses based
upon the yardage allowed. That's not the best defense. How
are you in the red zone? How are you on
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third down? What's your turn off? A margin? That's what
it is. And you could say that James Conner is
having a better year, and you can point to but
you know who else is having a better year everybody.
I've heard people make the statement before last night that
Cam Newton should be in m v P consideration because
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if you look at the year he had when he
won the m v P, he's having statistically a better
year this year. And they're right, here's a problem with that.
Everybody's having a better year this year. All right. You're like, oh, yeah,
I forgot about that part. It's kind of a big part.
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It's kind of a big part. Kind of matters. It's
kind of matters, you know. I mean that's like saying,
how much more of your house is worth now than
I can't believe how much more we're paying for houses
than our parents paid for houses. It's like, yeah, everything
it's called inflation. Everything has become inflated. He can't give
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bear anything to five years ago, ten years ago. The
only thing that seems to stay the same as the
cost of a Honda accord. That's the only thing. Everything
else goes up, everything else, you know, like I went
to Blaze Pizza. We I think my family has addicted
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to Blaze pizza. Lebron James becomes a billionaire. We're a
big reason why, and I felt like I got a
good deal geting my daughter like she all she wants
is a cheese pizza with extra sauce. I love the sauce,
extra sauce. And you get down. It's like six after tax,
and I'm looking at the cheese pizza and it's small
as it's okay. And then I think back when I
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was a kid. I used to hop over the fence
at Testa Night School and go down the street watched
the Cubs play at Chicago Joe's Pizza, and it was
two dollars and fifty cents for two huge slices of
pizza and a coke. So I could sit there and
tell you that, you know, my house is worth more,
or my car costs more, but everything costs more. And
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that's all that's happened in the NFL. It's just statistical inflation.
And we're sitting here telling based upon the amount of
money James Connor makes, is it more cost effective to
have a James Connor and a couple other running backs
than it is a Levan Bell. That's a fascinating argument.
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But this is where he's like Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott
had that incredible year two years we won thirteen games,
and I was telling people then at a different radio network,
but still tell people then, Hey, you know, you know
Tony rome was a better quarterback because Tony Romo with
that same team would have won thirteen fourteen games and
they could have won a playoff game because well, because
he's better, he's more accurate, he throws guys open, he's
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got better feet in the pocket, he's just you know,
and he's got years of experience. It's far better. So
this idea that Jane, Look, if James Conner is on
the free agent market and Levan bells on the free
agent market at the end of this year, if all
things are, you have no who do you think is
worth more money? Levian Bell. He's one of the top
five running backs in the game. That's not to take
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away from the James Conner story being a cancer survivor
or or you know, always taking the high road and
all these l Bell questions, or being ridiculously productive and
probably taking on more of the workload than even he
was prepared for in this offseason, doesn't take away from
any of that. But if you think for one second,
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and I don't love the logic behind Levan's holdout, I
think it's money he'll never make back. And it's a
season that he could be a part of or could
not be a part of, but a chance for the
Steelers to legitimately compete for and win a Super Bowl.
And I think all of that gets lost lost in
the Hey, I'm gonna change and fight this system that
you're not gonna change. You're not gonna fight. You got
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offered a big, long term deal to stay in Pittsburgh.
You felt like it was under your value. Uh, you
game of chicken, they didn't blink and you end up sitting.
That's what this is about. But instead of James Conner story,
Levian Bell story, we've lost track of. Levian Bell is
a great running back. And if you want to say
that James Conner is having a better year, most people are.
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You know why because it's statistical inflation. It's football on
its stats on steroids. Because how the games played more stabs. Uh,
the pace of game is quicker, so there's more plays,
more opportunities. The rule will favor the offense far more
so even than even last year, and that's gonna cause
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you to be more effective. So this is not a
bash James Conner and I don't even I'm not even
a Levy on Bell dude, but the but the Steelers
changed their offense is what they fired Todd Haley. And
the Steelers are scoring more points a game a game
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last year. They're crewing what is it, forty two more
yards a game. Their pass yards are up last year
at the exact same time pass yard yards passing per game.
I mean assume last year two d seventy four this year.
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And by the way, they're running the ball at about
the exact same rate they were last year, and they're
the past game is up without Levyan Bell, who is
a better pass catcher out of the backfield than than
James Conner. I'm not telling you James Connor stay inks.
I'm not telling you Dak Prescott stinks. I'm telling you
that Tony Romo was a better quarterback than Dak Prescott,
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and that Levian Bell is a better running back at
this point in his career than James Connor. It's inflation.
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the Doug Gottlieb Show. Was last night more about Pittsburgher
Carolina More about Pittsburgh. Just they've really got a rolling
I mean that they've been a longstanding juggernaut in this
league and they're kind of flexing their muscles again. I
think you gotta be careful, Doug on the Thursday night
games once you get, especially past November, it's just once
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you get in a week Han eleven twelve, the road team.
I know it's an easy, built in crutch, but I
do think it is fair. It's really really hard. Uh,
Carolina had been playing really well. They just kind of
ran into a bus all last night in the game,
just you know, seven seven, and then the next snap
cam throws that crazy pick and then it's snowballed and
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it was wasn't even a game from there. Yeah, and
and that's the kind of mistake that Cam. You know
that he's look, there's there. There are a lot of
good teams that have to play with the leader, play
playing close games, and and Cam's one of like he
you can't get down two touchdowns and expecting to bring
you back with their arm that everything has to be
kind of on schedule correct. But when he's on, he
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is as good as any you know, in that playoff
game last year, I'm not the biggest Cam guy, but
I do acknowledge that when he's on, she's as potent
as any quarterback in recent memory, as good as anyone.
But last night we saw bad Cam. And again I'm
gonna give him specifically a little bit of the benefit
of the doubt. It's really hard, short week, flying across
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the country. They have been rolling, and I really think
that pick just was classic old Cam just derailed everything.
And then Pittsburgh Antonio Brown, I mean, playing at as
higher level as you can. James Conner, what a fantastic story.
He looks awesome, Rockinnsburger, sneaky, having like he's not gonna
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win the m v P or anythbody's having pretty good year. Okay,
The Roethlisberger thing is interesting because it does help my
kind of overall argument, right, And we heard from people saying, well, like, look,
you know Cam Newton, his stats are better now than
the MVP year. And the reason is everybody's stats are better, right,
Like it's it's statistical inflation. Okay, So let me let
me go to James Connor with that. I think that
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James Conner story is amazing. And if you want to say,
as far as being cost effective, he's way more cost
effective than Levian Bell is. But but the idea that
Levian Bell wouldn't have this type of or an even
more productive season if he was playing is kind of laughable.
Like Levian Bell is a freak elite back that somehow,
somehow we lose track of that a little bit because
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either we love the James Conner story or we don't
like Levian Bell holding out for more money. Is that?
Is that? Is that a fair take? Yeah? I think
it's like a combination everything. There's Levian Bell in a
vacuum is a better player in James Conner. So if
Levian Bell had been playing all this year and been
locked him as he has been the last couple of years,
he would be doing everything James is doing and more.
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But I also think on the flip side, it shows, hey, Levian,
you had fourteen and a half million dollars that on
a single season, you would have been the highest paid
player in the league. Of your position. It's not a
position where it's you're not left tackle, you're not a corner.
You are very pretty easy to replace. See to me,
the doug the differences, it's the one position for the
most part that I can find a dude off waivers.
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I can find a guy late in the draft and
get I mean of production at so many other at
pass rusher, at you know, at offensive tackle, at corner.
The drop off is like Grand Canyon wise, where running
back it's I can find James Conner that again not
Levian Bell, but is having a Pro Bowl season that
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I can't just find Pro bowl other positions. That to me,
that's the that's the problem for the Levian Bell side
of the argument. So he shows up, he signs the paper,
he's under contract. I don't know. I mean, do you
think he does? I see, I don't know, I don't know.
I think he doesn't. He's gone this far. What's the point, um,
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I don't know. A couple million dollars true, but clearly
he's already showed money. Isn't like it's the big picture.
He thinks he's which I think he's wrong. He thinks
he's getting this enormous contract if he just takes off
this year. Again, I'm not saying I know, I'm just
I'm starting to get the feeling I just don't even
think he's ever gonna show back up. Let's say he
does show up, what do you do if your Pittsburgh
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do you play him? I mean, because your chemistry seems
to be really good. I know I wouldn't If I
was a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, I would not want him
to come back because it's really rolling. If I was
the general manager, it at least at the beginning of
the season, it didn't feel like they wanted him to
come back. Now, maybe they'd be more open to it
now because you know they're trying to make a super
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Bowl run. But is he gonna come back and just
be Mr hard worker? You know, Mr first guyt of
the weight room? Like they think that they have a
pretty good thing going. I mean even the backup running
backs look pretty good last night. I'd be fine with
him not coming back. If he does come back, I mean,
you're gonna take him. What are you gonna do? Suspend
him or just not allow him to play? I think
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it's kind of a tough spot. Now you could probably
justify if he comes back. I don't know the exact
like c BA lay which could you just cut him
or whatever and just make him a free agent right now?
I mean, I think every option they have to with
every win, they have to be talking about every potential option,
because one thing is clear. They don't one need him now, Uh,
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he would help. No one disputes that he's not a
great his talent. His talent would help, but but that
doesn't always right. And and is he in shape? You know, like, look,
we all think that a guy just all of a sudden, uh,
comes back says I'm ready puts on a helmet and
shoulder pads, Like is he in shape? What one thing?
I always it's the one thing I'll give Antonio Brown.
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He can kind of be a pain, But when the
whistle blows and when the game starts, the dude balls,
and the dude plays really hard, and for whatever reason,
his teammates seem to like him a little more. Again,
he's he's out there, but sometimes Levy on the question
is like, God, is he all in? Is he really
feeling this? I don't know if I'd risk that right
now for Pittsburgh caause I could be thinking, what why
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couldn't I win the uh? Win the FC? You know,
I have as good a chance as any I mean,
it's New England's owned me. But their teams, you know,
talent wise, not as crazy. We've We've gone on the
road before and beat Kansas City. We're not scared of
San Diego or l A. Uh why couldn't they win
the sc right now? Yeah? They play l A in
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two weeks, that's on the in December two on their home.
You doing an NFL game? Yes, I'm doing so. I'm
doing Saints Bengos. I want to ask about that John
Middlecoff three Now podcast. It's like the best game, right,
I know it is? Okay, So a bunch of stuff here. Um,
what do you think of the Dez thing with New Orleans?
Kind of similar thing, like they kind of got a
roll in and they've been doing it with Michael Thomas
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and a whole not a whole lot else, right, Ted
Ginn gets hurt. And I don't know what you think
of Ted Gain, although he's better now than he used
to be in terms of consistency of catching a football,
But you know, they're they're doing kind of smoking mirrors.
And now you bring in a guy who like, look,
I don't love Dez Bryant, but for minimum for a
million dollars as my number two and what's really number
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three threat? I kind of like it. At first, I
didn't because, like most of the country last week, I
helicoptered in on their season. I mean I watched the Saints,
but not like start to finish all their games and
you go, god, I I came away from that game
not why would you need des Bryant? And then you
kind of really dive in and go, jeez, they don't
really have a number two wide receiver. It feels like
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they do because they spread the ball around to their
running backs. Kamara catches the ball a lot, but the
next highest receiver was was what like Ted Ginn and
that other dude, the rookie Hill that had twelve catches
and they don't have another productive wide receiver. Now I
do think they also, you know, it's not very much
money if it doesn't work, Like, hey, Dees, this is
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on you. If you can't shape end us this organization
with Drew Brees and Sean Payton and this offense, then
we'll just get rid of you in a couple of weeks.
If you if you're any sort of problem, and you
have to give us everything from everything we need typically
like in the red zone. I saw Sean Payton said,
we need him in the red zone, we need him
on third down like that, you have an unreal opportunity
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now I think I also saw Sean Payton said he's
a little bit overweight, which would be normal, right, He
hasn't he's been working out on his own. But he
to me, Daz has a lot to prove. You know,
it's not like but but it's a but it's a
good opportunity for him because if he shows that he
cannot derail, he cannot deray, he doesn't derail a winner.
He shows that he can be a number two or
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number three threat and except less targets. If he shows
that he can block down field, like yeah, by the way,
anytime somebody says the guy's five point pounds over weight,
you know that means he's ten pounds, right, But I mean,
is he so he's gonna address this weekend? I take it. No,
he's not. He's not gonna. Okay, so you're might You're right,
he might be like twelve fifteen pounds overweight. He need
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that week Sana. But but but a good a good
like a good test for for the Saints, a team
that everyone says like, man if it's in the Dome,
but if it's not, the Bengals don't have their best player,
but they are at home. Uh, mixing is back healthy? Tyler?
Tyler boy is gonna have to side over the number one?
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Like this is not a great or maybe even very
good Bengals team, but it's a great opportunity for a
Bengals team off of by more healthy against the Saints
team that no one believes can win in any sort
of cold weather. Yeah, but like you said, I mean
that environment, it's just kind of I've been to that
stadium before when I was scouting. It's just a tough area.
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Uh that that team with a J Green that's a massive,
massive loss. But their defensive line is really good. Their
front seven has played really well whenever I've watched them
this season that they're to me, they're pretty talented. Now,
a big part of their whole deal was a j
was having a fantastic season. So I think that's a
big loss. But I do think that, you know, New
Orleans coming off a massive win, there is let down potential.
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But if you are and I do believe this, like
I think the Saints are super Bowl level team. And
if you're a super Bowl level team, like you handle
business even if it's ugly, you know, whatever you have
to do to win this game. The score is meaningless
after last week, just find a way to win this game.
Colder weather, outdoors, a solid a f T. I mean,
the Bengals are looking at it like we're gonna be
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a wild card. You know, we're a playoff level team.
So if they were to win this game, they would
be what six and three? Hell, they'd still be in
position for the Division s Doug Alive Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Did you hear what Marcus Peters had
to say about Sean Payton. I did. I didn't think
Sean Payton really said that much. He just said we
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liked the match up. It's not like he said you.
Marcus Peters thinks, what do you think about Mark Marcus
Peters saying you know, well, you know, uh, basically, we'll
see you again. I can't you know, we'll see you again.
I got something for you. I mean, I I get it.
But to me, it's like, hey, Marcus, I like you,
and I really liked a couple of years ago. As
a player. You're pretty hit or miss right now. I
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think Rodde Rende said it pretty well a couple of
weeks ago when they were playing up in Seattle. Like,
let's not get it twisted. He gives up as many
plays as he makes. Now he makes some big time plays.
But Marcus, you just got destroyed, like they just kept
coming after you. And I I look, Michael Thomas, Michael
Thomas is really good. But let's not think Michael Thomas
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is a burner, right Like Michael Thomas, you can't run. Yeah,
he's like a four or five eight guy. You know,
he's not flying. Marcus has not played as well the
last couple of years. Uh. He had the big playoff
game where he made some plays last year in Kansas City,
but it's like Marcus and people aren't scared of you anymore.
I mean kind of carrying himself like Revus. Marcus is
also has to be a little careful. He is heading
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into a free agent year. Uh you know, it's like
you kind of gotta acting like this again. I get
standing up for yourself and even blasting back a little bit.
But I don't know, man, he just got worked. Speaking
of getting worked, the Redskins got worked. There's still in
first place. But you want to talk about a team
that nobody and I know they've had they had a
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ton of injuries too. Um, but Jordan Read's clear to play.
What do we make of the Redskins after an Atlanta
team that's had a litany of injuries on defense just
came in and mopped the field with them. Well, I
think it does speak to Atlanta. I mean they're a
team I might put a decent amount of money on
this weekend. I think they're rolling. I mean they look
pretty good. I'm not writing off the Redskins just yet,
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because if Alex doesn't play well, their team can just
look terrible. And he's had some games this year where
he just looks pretty blow. I don't know quite what
to make of him. I don't. After last week and
they were one of the game, they were the only
morning game I got in the Bay Area, I was
pretty I mean, how could you not be very unimpressed?
I started thinking of God, in no way this team's
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making hold on, hold on, you don't have direct TV,
you don't have the package. No, I'm just a because
I I watched, you know, the two Bay Area teams,
and I usually get two games. I got two Red Zone.
You know, I don't I get enough, but you know,
I get exactly the game I want, and then I
can go back and Rewatch. I can't. I just I
know you can go back, and Rewatch. I just can't
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believe that you don't have the package. I just well,
because for the most part, Doug, you really I only
get screwed on the occasional morning game on you know,
you know, you know it's an underrated you know it's
you know, it's an underrated state for for getting. Where
you don't need the package is Connecticut because you get
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and I know, and I know what you're saying, where
you always have the afternoon game. So morning games usually
get kind of the pick of the litter right because
the area team. So I get to see both conferences
and you know, basically every team come through, so I
get a pretty good idea right when you When I
was in Connecticut, you get Jets and Giants and Patriots,
so you kind of get you kind of get all.
You gotta get a smore disport of them. And honestly,
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if they were all play at the same time, you
got them, you could get them all and you'd be like,
this is the greatest, and then whatever the other time
slots are, and then you know, now you have Thursday
and you got you got Sunday night, and you got Monday,
so you don't need it as much. It's one of
the things the NFL has done kind of uh, kind
of under the raters. Sorry, sorry to call you. I
don't see I see. I don't feel like I like
it with the NBA, you needed a little more. With football.
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I never really feel like I miss anything beside maybe
one sweet national like a FC game that I might
get screwed out of that I can always go back
and watch Packers are a game and a half back
of the Bears. They still have to go to Chicago.
They still have to go to Seattle. UM. That's next
Thursday night. They have to go to Minnesota take on
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the Vikings. And you mentioned those falcons. Albeit falcons would
be in the cold, they still have the falcons left.
Is this a last season? Here's the conversation, Doug, who's
the next coach of the Packers? That's where I think
we're at November nine. Who's the next coach? Because I
over so give me the give me the You're in
the you're in the front office, and you're you're somebody's
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at the white board and they're throwing out names. What
are the three names? Who are the three names? John
D Philippo, you know who's the hot offensive coordinator also
in the division, so he would know the team's young guy.
I think you would call Lincoln Riley the third one.
There's not really the recycled Andy Reid type guy on
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the market. At least it's looking like this year you
can't hire a defensive coach. So I think you got
John D. Philippo. I think you got Lincoln Riley. It's hard.
I don't I've been thinking about this Kingsbury any anyway, Kingsbury,
I don't know. Uh, maybe I actually kind of like
Cliff Kingsbury, but that that would be a pretty bold mood.
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But that's not that crazy. They've actually played a lot
better this season. Uh, Texas Tech. The one thing the
Packers will have going for him when when they do fire.
Mike McCarthy is there the Green Bay Packers and Aaron
Rodgers is still you know, in his prime and under contract.
So this me, that's it's a unique job. I don't
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think you could hire him because of the proximity to
the substance stuff. But am I wrong? Is Steve Sarkatian
has done an awesome job in Atlanta? He has, But
I see, I'm I'm on the other side. I know
you and Colin you guys like him. I I don't know.
I've never been the biggest fan. And the stuff that
happened at SC I no, no, I listened. I'm not
(28:24):
going to dismiss this stuff. But but he did. I mean, like, look,
he actually did a really good job turning around Washington
and I just spiraled out of control at USC. But
I mean, look that often Matt Ryan is having a
ridiculously good year and he's done a really good job. Again,
you're you're allowed to hold his past against him, and
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I don't think he's hirable yet in a college and
probably not in the NFL either, But I'm just in
just in judging. Yeah, I mean a little younger probably
could relate to Aaron. You know, it's not that crazy.
I'm not saying it's like out of left field, because
that's what you're looking for, right, someone that can get
along with your quarterback. I mean it's also something that
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can stimulate. It's like about an intellectual stimulation, right. You
gotta make him think he's trying and doing some of
the cool creative stuff, like yeah, I want to do.
It's like when you your your dad wants to have
the good new My dad always wanted to have the
cool new piece of technological equipment, right, Like remember when
a cam quarter came out at the video the video
the video machine that could also play it on your
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VCR so you didn't have to take it out. Like,
but he never knew how to use all of it.
But it's just the idea of it. That's kind of
where we are with Aaron Rodgers. Like I'm not sure
you're really gonna run all this Andy Reid stuff, all
this pre snap stuff, but you at least want to
stimulate him to think he's doing something different than he's
done the last ten years. Would all be fascinated this
offseat or just that little period when they're kind of
(29:49):
going through guys, if they missed the playoffs and Mike
McCarthy's fired when they miss the playoffs, I mean, they're
not gonna make the playoffs. Is do they treat it
like Daryl Morey treats with James Harden and the Warriors
do with like Steph They are they gonna go to Aaron?
Is he gonna be a part of the process? You know?
Would they even give him that option? Maybe they would,
And it's not crazy if they did. I mean, he
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is their franchise. So you want to make him feel
a part of it because this next high or higher
at least for the next you know, in the short
term three four years, you have a chance to win
a super Bowl and be a power again because you
still have Aaron. Like it's a it's a very very
unique job because of Aaron Rodgers completely completely agree. Doug
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got the show here on Fox Sports Radio one to
Zion Williams, Doug Williamson, Uh, would he be a top
five NFL draft pick. He looks like Khalil Mack. The hair,
do the biceps. I mean, I I thought he accept
he's like he's six five. How he got him? He's taller.
(30:53):
He's a freak man, total freak I just I don't
know if you can play in the NBA at two
five and he doesn't have the body type You're like,
oh hey, dude, you need to play at too forty.
You know. Yeah, it was I was glued to my
television even in a blowout, just oh my, this is
one of the great explosive athletes. And you know, I
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was like, remember like Clowney when he was a sophomore,
and it was like, I does not look like other
humans on the field, and he was in the SEC.
That's what That's what Zion looked like. The other night
was just oh my god. Yep, and and crazy enough.
He's actually not the best freshman on the on that
roster um in terms of prospect or current player, but
(31:36):
he was still He's spectacular and his athleticism is is
he from Carolina, from South Carolina, South Carolina, from close
to Clemson. Stepdad played at Clemson. Clemson thought they were
getting him South Carolina thought they had a shot at
him and he ends up going to Duke South Carolina
has had a good little run of the clowneys uh.
I think au Sean Jeffreys from there, He's from there.
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Kevin Garnett and Kevin. Kevin Garnett's from there. Yeah, ray
Allen ray Allan was a military brideber from there. John
Middle CALLF three and out. Is the podcast downloaded. It's outstanding, John,
Thanks so much for joining us. Later, dog, have a
good weekend enjoying to alright. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug Dot Leap Show week days in
noon eastern three pm Pacific. Oh, we got breaking news,
(32:17):
Dan Buyer, Dan what he got breaking news from Fox
Sports Doug. This just in from the NFL Network. Saints
wide receiver Dez Bryant was injured in practice today and
the team fears he may have torn his achilles. So
when we talk about des his debut with the Saints,
it may not happen at all. But the NFL Network
(32:38):
saying that Saints wide receiver Dez Bryan may have torn
his achilles during a workout today. Oh my goodness. Alright,
so uh, Bradley chevs on. Hold you have a hold
on real quick. Um. I actually I feel terrible for Dez,
but this is I've told people this long time for
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a long time, and does relate to Deth Brian And
this is why the wait thing I've been kind of
teasing all day about Hey, the the five pounds heavy
really feels like it's ten or maybe even more pounds heavy.
And that's I'm sure what John Payton was talking about. Um,
look the key and if you're if you're an athlete
of any elk, can you listen to this show or
you listen to this pod. And lots of my buddies
(33:19):
will play basketball sitting. They're gonna sit there and nod
their head when I say this. And a bunch of
you guys were former jocks as well. Look, we all
when we get older, you still your your mind still
thinks you're younger, and you're like, well, I'm smarter now,
I know how to move with my body. If you're
gonna get back into playing sports, right, you can play
in the men's league and play volleyball. You're gonna play tennis,
(33:40):
You're gonna do anything. The first thing you need to
do is lose the weight, because when you're a couple
of pounds to anymore overweight, your your body is used
to doing athletic things with its old way, in addition
to the fact it suffered somewhere and hair. So and
(34:02):
it's you're like, well, how do I lose weight without
playing sports? Like, well, it's a lot about diet. And
then you know, you gotta do a lot of yoga
and a lot of stretching, and there's you gotta do.
You gotta uh do a lot less impactful stuff. But
this is classic sign of what happens the guys later
in their career, especially when they're carrying a couple too many,
(34:24):
a couple too many, a couple too many pounds. But
that's a wow, wow, wow. And I would guess it
means for you know, for next season, I mean, good
luck getting a you know, here's Dez who thought, all right,
well I have to I'll just play this year, show
people I can play and then next year. Remember Terrell Owens,
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in addition to being a pain in the ask what
led to him uh not no one picking up the
phone and calling him towards a c L in his
mid thirties, towards a c and has mid thirties, So
I don't think you have to be the biggest Dez
Brian fan to feel like, man, that sucks, right, because
he was gonna play against the Cowboys, and I would
(35:09):
love to see if Atweena didn't you want to see
him like I legitimately wanted to see him play against
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Defense Van Bradley Chubb is joining us on behalf of
(35:29):
Old Spice. They had the new Fomer body Wash. Thanks
for coming on the show, Bradley. I've been told that
you know specifically what the number four teen point five
has in terms of significance at your position? What is
that significance? Record to take too much about him, but uh,
(35:50):
I'll definitely look at it every day. Yeah, and then
of course, uh that would shatter the record of eleven
point five sacks set by Von Miller, who was that's
that's the Bronch Broncos rookie record. What what what's just
been like for you? I mean, because you know we
hear from so many different guys different positions that the
adjustment to the speed of the game, you know, is
(36:11):
it And of course the lifestyle changes things. But for you,
it seems like you've adjusted really quickly. What in reality,
what's the suggestment been like for you? Uh, the justment
has been pretty good. I mean at the beginning of
the season, I'm not gonna last, I struggle with just
trying to uh not trying to mess up and not
trying to just you know what I'm saying, just trying
to be as cost as I could and not just
(36:32):
going out there and playing. And then I felt like
when I started just getting comfortable, having getting getting around
the guys more and just having that that team chemistry
and stuff like that, then stuffed up to click from
me because I realized that if the reason that they
drafted me is to make plays and stuff like that
and just go out there and play and not to
think and not to go out there and just trying
not to mess up. So my main thing was just
(36:54):
get my confidence back and making sure that I just
went out there every week and uh did with the
team asked me to do. Bradley Chef joining us in
the doug Otlip Show, the team has struggled to Bradley
Chub has not. Uh. This is and you know, what
you're doing runs counter to what most guys that put
up sack numbers, you know, right, because most guys that
get a lot of sacks they're playing on really really
(37:15):
good teams. They get a lead early and the team
has the opposition has to throw the football, so you
get more opportunities. I actually think if you could put
a positive asterisk by your sack total because you're playing
on a team which has played in so many close
games and lost several of them, and it makes it
harder to get those stats, doesn't it. Uh Yeah, I
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don't feel like I see what you're saying, but yeah,
just every time I get an opportunity risk pressure with
me and von Inshane is that and the rest of
the line we got that their mindset that we're gonna
get them, so uh uh, just trying to make the
best every opportunity we to get. Bradley Chef joining us
on the Dug Outlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
What have you learned from Von? Uh? Everything from on
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the field to off the field to what I do
with my body in the in between games and to
what I do in the off season when I don't
feel like, you know, I'm saying, spending money and stuff
like that. So he's been very helpful. Just like I
told somebody earlier, he's like been like a big brother
to me and this and this whole thing. Um, just
somebody I could always talk to if I need to
have a question about certain things or something like that.
(38:22):
And then I also have my my own other brother
that I could talk to about things, so it's like
having two brothers and stuff. So it's pretty cool. He's
been been great knowledge to me, but to all the
other rookies and stuff like that. Just very welcoming. All right,
So here, here's what you have to do. You have
to give me, you said on the field and off
the field, to give me one thing on the field
that you picked up from Van Noor. On the field,
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I would say, um, just how to how to how
to attack um, like how to attack the game, like
the whole skill set of past us and whether it
be from watching film from on how the officer the
tackle kicks and and how he punches this handed the
wild punchect close to punch or something like that, you
know what I'm saying, Just different things like that. So
(39:04):
just stuff like how to watch film, Brad that we
don't know. Listen, listen, You're like, you know, like we
don't know. Okay, so so so you you so he
taught like he taught you how to watch how dudes
punches and that you adjust your moves accordingly. You watch
how his feet kick and that's how you adjust your
moves accordingly. Right right, Just tying the stuff up and
being a fishing with your with your body and with
(39:25):
your hands in college when you're an NC state? Was
it just raw ability or was it was some of this? Was?
How much of this did you know? Coming in? I
knew about it percent of it and then uh, just
trying to consider to learning each and every day he's
telling me different things that he's learned. Uh. We of
course everybody has had different coutures to tell them different
(39:46):
things and got different languages for stuff like that, and
so sometimes we're talking about the same things, but we
just got different names for it. So it has been
just yeah, just just really just talking football. Bradley Chaff
joining us in the Dug out Lip Show here on
Fox Forwards Radio Okay, give me one thing off the field,
but your as your diet changed. Yeah, my diets definitely changed. Uh.
(40:07):
I remember this is right after I got drafted. Um,
it's like probably about a week or two after I
got drafted. I haven't really met him yet. And then
uh he had put on his like Instagram story like
like deer back or something like that. I like, bro,
what is it? What are you eating? And then uh,
I remember he told me, he was like, man, you
gotta you gotta field to ferrari with with good stuff,
not just anything stuff. Yeah. Yeah, So when he when
(40:29):
he told me that, and just just seeing how clean
he eats, um eating every day. Of course he has
a chef and stuff that that brings a food and
all that. So just saying how clean he eats, and
it just makes you want to do the same things
he's doing because he's playing at a high level. So
are you eating? Are you eating venison? Is that what
you're doing? Have you changed the venison diet? Like? What,
give me one thing you've added to your diet that
you did not eat when you were in college. Uh,
(40:52):
I've ate a lot of fast food in college, I said,
I haven't touched fast food since I've been uh pretty
much been here throughout this season. Just gave me a
fast food game. We're trying to give up sweets. Uh,
that's probably the hardest thing because I got a sweet
tooth like crazy every night and every night before games
in college, I'll eat cookies and ice cream, So trying
to get away from that. But yeah, just cleared up
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as much as I can. What kind of ice cream?
But just vanilla talcol till cookies with vanilla ice cream. Solid. Man,
you can't. I can't um Canes or Chick fil a
Canes or chick fil A. Yeah, I'm from the South.
I gotta go Chick fil A. Well, I mean Canes
is also for like from the South. Right, Okay, did
you go like hardcore sweet tea? Did you go did
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you go soda? But back in the day when you
were doing fast food, did you do like half sweet
tea half regular tea? What was your How would you
get down when you would go to Chick fil a?
Hardcore sweet tea for sure? If I want to til
I get to lemonade from there. Yeah, yeah, you can
do lemonade tea as well, although the Chick fil A
they'll do sweet tea with lemonade, which is like the
sweetest thing you've ever had, ever had in your life. Uh,
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speaking of college, what happened to your boys? Man? And
see State was cruising along and now all of a
sudden they're getting smacked and lose the wake forest. What's
going on with that? Oh? Man, just just growing pains
and stuff. Man, just just I feel like they're just
trying to I wouldn't say trying to find the identity
because they got a lot of great players, a lot
of great talent. It's just it just comes down to
um making a mistake here there. Last night, they made
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a couple of mistakes towards the end of the game
and end up causing them. So I just gotta those
guys just got locked in and stuff. I'm still supporting,
but um, yeah, it is a little hard when you
lose and when you started off so good. But I
know those guys gonna bounce back. All right. You're a
you're a tough guy. Um, you're on pace to set
the rookie sack record Bradley Chub joining us. But you're
(42:41):
also a foaming body wash guy. You're foaming body wash guy.
Now do you go Lufa with your old spice um
foamer or do you go you go uh wash Rack?
I go wash Rag. I gotta go wash Rack because
the loofa it starts to hurt. You say, scrub up
too hard, so I gotta go wash. You can pick
it up at Walmart. Bradley Chub joins us on behalf
(43:01):
of the new old spice Foam that's foaming body wash
that lathers in a flash, and go uh go wash
Rag if you want to go Bradley Chub style. Bradley,
thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you being our
guest on Fox Sports Radio. You, no doubt thanks for
having me on the show.
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The other one is Carolina, where they're licking their wounds,
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join us in about fifteen minutes. See if he agrees
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(01:05):
beginning to his career with the Denver Broncos, on pace
to set the all time rookie sack mark held by
Javon Kurse fourteen point five. He'll join us in one hour.
J Glazer will join us in an hour and twenty minutes.
Why why Why isn't Dez Bryant ready to go? Des
Bryant will not play the game. I'm gonna getting a
chance to call on radio with Brian Baldinger on Compass
(01:25):
Radio Networks. Um, so the Saints are gonna come in
play in the cold. Like Look, if there's a question
about the Saints, it's always been can you play in
the cold outside of the Dome? And they're coming off
a huge win over the Rams taking on a Bengals
team that won't have a j Green. So, yeah, they
(01:47):
will have Joe Mixon, they well have Gio Bernard, they
will have Tyler Boyd, but they won't have and they're
working through what looks like a healthy offensive line. We'll
see if they have Vont's perfect. We've got a lot
to get to. Jay Glazier will join us in an
hour and fifteen minutes plus. We'll ask him about Levian Bell.
Joel Clatt will join us in the third hour of
(02:08):
the show. That's five twenty on the East to twenty
on the West. We'll talk about college football. Where Ohio
State is in You can't lose you you you get
no more mulligance, no more breakfast balls. As they take
on Michigan State, who I would guess I would I
would throw out there is the most overrated team in
the country. That's Michigan State. Utterly and completely unimpressive in
(02:31):
so many key opportunities. But we'll see this weekend. So
uh we have my picks, and uh they will be
better than last week because it couldn't be any worse.
This is the doug Otlieb Show. Hey, am I gonna
get credit for Thursday night football as well? I just
this is a question Rye Music. You know you tweaked
me because I knew I picked Monday Night Monday correctly,
(02:53):
I get no credit from Monday. Then, of course you
try and change it on air and edit it as
we go, as I had the wy Niners. Then, not
only did I say Pittsburgh would win in Pittsburgh Recover,
I said Pittsburgh big Lee. Isn't that what I said? Yes,
that is what I said yesterday. That is in fact correct.
Thank you, Thank you, I appreciate I just you know,
it's like I look at my record, and while it's good,
(03:14):
while it's above five hundred and if people follow my picks,
they're in the money. My picks in reality, like if
you go with every pick, we're in the zone. That's
what we're doing. But the last my staff does not
want to go back and judge Thursday night and Monday
night games because apparently they don't count. I don't know.
I don't understand that one. It's like b y U basketball.
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Suddenly they're gonna go back and redact some my wins.
All right, let's get to last night. Um, I don't
want to go overreact and tell you Carolina stinks or
that Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is awesome. But in the context of
last night, Carolina stunk and Pittsburgh was awesome. It's Thursday
night home team has a distinct advantage, and this was
(03:57):
the explosive offense we thought we would see from the
Pittsburgh Steelers. It should also be mentioned this is really
really important as part of the point I want to
make the style that the Steelers play. Yes, they've been
able to run the football with James Connor a lot,
but the style having that amount of talent at wide
(04:18):
receiver and having two pass catching tight ends who caught
touchdown passes last night. That's the style that seems to
be one that will play better in two thousand eighteen. Then,
for example, the Carolina Panthers, who not only can run it,
but also can run it with their quarterback. That just
is the rules are set up to help Pittsburgh more.
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But I'm getting the feeling that James Conner is starting
to get Dak Prescott like deity status. James Conner is
having a good year, and people want to point out
that James Conner is having a better year than Levian
Bell had last year. And statistically, you can point to
several key factors that are right. But let's go back
(05:00):
to yesterday and let me edupicate you on the National
Football League. You can no longer take gross stats. You
just can't. You can't do yardage well, it's and it's
a joke that the NFL does the best defenses based
upon the yardage allowed. That's not the best defense. How
are you in the red zone? How are you on
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third down? What's your turn off? A margin? That's what
it is. And you could say that James Conner is
having a better year, and you can point to but
you know who else is having a better year everybody.
I've heard people make the statement before last night that
Cam Newton should be in m v P consideration because
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if you look at the year he had when he
won the m v P, he's having statistically a better
year this year. And they're right, here's a problem with that.
Everybody's having a better year this year. All right. You're like, oh, yeah,
I forgot about that part. It's kind of a big part.
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It's kind of a big part. Kind of matters. It's
kind of matters, you know. I mean that's like saying,
how much more of your house is worth now than
I can't believe how much more we're paying for houses
than our parents paid for houses. It's like, yeah, everything
it's called inflation. Everything has become inflated. He can't give
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bear anything to five years ago, ten years ago. The
only thing that seems to stay the same as the
cost of a Honda accord. That's the only thing. Everything
else goes up, everything else, you know, like I went
to Blaze Pizza. We I think my family has addicted
(06:52):
to Blaze pizza. Lebron James becomes a billionaire. We're a
big reason why, and I felt like I got a
good deal geting my daughter like she all she wants
is a cheese pizza with extra sauce. I love the sauce,
extra sauce. And you get down. It's like six after tax,
and I'm looking at the cheese pizza and it's small
as it's okay. And then I think back when I
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was a kid. I used to hop over the fence
at Testa Night School and go down the street watched
the Cubs play at Chicago Joe's Pizza, and it was
two dollars and fifty cents for two huge slices of
pizza and a coke. So I could sit there and
tell you that, you know, my house is worth more,
or my car costs more, but everything costs more. And
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that's all that's happened in the NFL. It's just statistical inflation.
And we're sitting here telling based upon the amount of
money James Connor makes, is it more cost effective to
have a James Connor and a couple other running backs
than it is a Levan Bell. That's a fascinating argument.
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But this is where he's like Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott
had that incredible year two years we won thirteen games,
and I was telling people then at a different radio network,
but still tell people then, Hey, you know, you know
Tony rome was a better quarterback because Tony Romo with
that same team would have won thirteen fourteen games and
they could have won a playoff game because well, because
he's better, he's more accurate, he throws guys open, he's
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got better feet in the pocket, he's just you know,
and he's got years of experience. It's far better. So
this idea that Jane, Look, if James Conner is on
the free agent market and Levan bells on the free
agent market at the end of this year, if all
things are, you have no who do you think is
worth more money? Levian Bell. He's one of the top
five running backs in the game. That's not to take
(08:39):
away from the James Conner story being a cancer survivor
or or you know, always taking the high road and
all these l Bell questions, or being ridiculously productive and
probably taking on more of the workload than even he
was prepared for in this offseason, doesn't take away from
any of that. But if you think for one second,
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and I don't love the logic behind Levan's holdout, I
think it's money he'll never make back. And it's a
season that he could be a part of or could
not be a part of, but a chance for the
Steelers to legitimately compete for and win a Super Bowl.
And I think all of that gets lost lost in
the Hey, I'm gonna change and fight this system that
you're not gonna change. You're not gonna fight. You got
(09:20):
offered a big, long term deal to stay in Pittsburgh.
You felt like it was under your value. Uh, you
game of chicken, they didn't blink and you end up sitting.
That's what this is about. But instead of James Conner story,
Levian Bell story, we've lost track of. Levian Bell is
a great running back. And if you want to say
that James Conner is having a better year, most people are.
(09:43):
You know why because it's statistical inflation. It's football on
its stats on steroids. Because how the games played more stabs. Uh,
the pace of game is quicker, so there's more plays,
more opportunities. The rule will favor the offense far more
so even than even last year, and that's gonna cause
(10:05):
you to be more effective. So this is not a
bash James Conner and I don't even I'm not even
a Levy on Bell dude, but the but the Steelers
changed their offense is what they fired Todd Haley. And
the Steelers are scoring more points a game a game
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last year. They're crewing what is it, forty two more
yards a game. Their pass yards are up last year
at the exact same time pass yard yards passing per game.
I mean assume last year two d seventy four this year.
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And by the way, they're running the ball at about
the exact same rate they were last year, and they're
the past game is up without Levyan Bell, who is
a better pass catcher out of the backfield than than
James Conner. I'm not telling you James Connor stay inks.
I'm not telling you Dak Prescott stinks. I'm telling you
that Tony Romo was a better quarterback than Dak Prescott,
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and that Levian Bell is a better running back at
this point in his career than James Connor. It's inflation.
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the Doug Gottlieb Show. Was last night more about Pittsburgher
Carolina More about Pittsburgh. Just they've really got a rolling
I mean that they've been a longstanding juggernaut in this
league and they're kind of flexing their muscles again. I
think you gotta be careful, Doug on the Thursday night
games once you get, especially past November, it's just once
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you get in a week Han eleven twelve, the road team.
I know it's an easy, built in crutch, but I
do think it is fair. It's really really hard. Uh,
Carolina had been playing really well. They just kind of
ran into a bus all last night in the game,
just you know, seven seven, and then the next snap
cam throws that crazy pick and then it's snowballed and
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it was wasn't even a game from there. Yeah, and
and that's the kind of mistake that Cam. You know
that he's look, there's there. There are a lot of
good teams that have to play with the leader, play
playing close games, and and Cam's one of like he
you can't get down two touchdowns and expecting to bring
you back with their arm that everything has to be
kind of on schedule correct. But when he's on, he
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is as good as any you know, in that playoff
game last year, I'm not the biggest Cam guy, but
I do acknowledge that when he's on, she's as potent
as any quarterback in recent memory, as good as anyone.
But last night we saw bad Cam. And again I'm
gonna give him specifically a little bit of the benefit
of the doubt. It's really hard, short week, flying across
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the country. They have been rolling, and I really think
that pick just was classic old Cam just derailed everything.
And then Pittsburgh Antonio Brown, I mean, playing at as
higher level as you can. James Conner, what a fantastic story.
He looks awesome, Rockinnsburger, sneaky, having like he's not gonna
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win the m v P or anythbody's having pretty good year. Okay,
The Roethlisberger thing is interesting because it does help my
kind of overall argument, right, And we heard from people saying, well, like, look,
you know Cam Newton, his stats are better now than
the MVP year. And the reason is everybody's stats are better, right,
Like it's it's statistical inflation. Okay, So let me let
me go to James Connor with that. I think that
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James Conner story is amazing. And if you want to say,
as far as being cost effective, he's way more cost
effective than Levian Bell is. But but the idea that
Levian Bell wouldn't have this type of or an even
more productive season if he was playing is kind of laughable.
Like Levian Bell is a freak elite back that somehow,
somehow we lose track of that a little bit because
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either we love the James Conner story or we don't
like Levian Bell holding out for more money. Is that?
Is that? Is that a fair take? Yeah? I think
it's like a combination everything. There's Levian Bell in a
vacuum is a better player in James Conner. So if
Levian Bell had been playing all this year and been
locked him as he has been the last couple of years,
he would be doing everything James is doing and more.
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But I also think on the flip side, it shows, hey, Levian,
you had fourteen and a half million dollars that on
a single season, you would have been the highest paid
player in the league. Of your position. It's not a
position where it's you're not left tackle, you're not a corner.
You are very pretty easy to replace. See to me,
the doug the differences, it's the one position for the
most part that I can find a dude off waivers.
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I can find a guy late in the draft and
get I mean of production at so many other at
pass rusher, at you know, at offensive tackle, at corner.
The drop off is like Grand Canyon wise, where running
back it's I can find James Conner that again not
Levian Bell, but is having a Pro Bowl season that
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I can't just find Pro bowl other positions. That to me,
that's the that's the problem for the Levian Bell side
of the argument. So he shows up, he signs the paper,
he's under contract. I don't know. I mean, do you
think he does? I see, I don't know, I don't know.
I think he doesn't. He's gone this far. What's the point, um,
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I don't know. A couple million dollars true, but clearly
he's already showed money. Isn't like it's the big picture.
He thinks he's which I think he's wrong. He thinks
he's getting this enormous contract if he just takes off
this year. Again, I'm not saying I know, I'm just
I'm starting to get the feeling I just don't even
think he's ever gonna show back up. Let's say he
does show up, what do you do if your Pittsburgh
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do you play him? I mean, because your chemistry seems
to be really good. I know I wouldn't If I
was a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, I would not want him
to come back because it's really rolling. If I was
the general manager, it at least at the beginning of
the season, it didn't feel like they wanted him to
come back. Now, maybe they'd be more open to it
now because you know they're trying to make a super
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Bowl run. But is he gonna come back and just
be Mr hard worker? You know, Mr first guyt of
the weight room? Like they think that they have a
pretty good thing going. I mean even the backup running
backs look pretty good last night. I'd be fine with
him not coming back. If he does come back, I mean,
you're gonna take him. What are you gonna do? Suspend
him or just not allow him to play? I think
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it's kind of a tough spot. Now you could probably
justify if he comes back. I don't know the exact
like c BA lay which could you just cut him
or whatever and just make him a free agent right now?
I mean, I think every option they have to with
every win, they have to be talking about every potential option,
because one thing is clear. They don't one need him now, Uh,
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he would help. No one disputes that he's not a
great his talent. His talent would help, but but that
doesn't always right. And and is he in shape? You know, like, look,
we all think that a guy just all of a sudden, uh,
comes back says I'm ready puts on a helmet and
shoulder pads, Like is he in shape? What one thing?
I always it's the one thing I'll give Antonio Brown.
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He can kind of be a pain, But when the
whistle blows and when the game starts, the dude balls,
and the dude plays really hard, and for whatever reason,
his teammates seem to like him a little more. Again,
he's he's out there, but sometimes Levy on the question
is like, God, is he all in? Is he really
feeling this? I don't know if I'd risk that right
now for Pittsburgh caause I could be thinking, what why
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couldn't I win the uh? Win the FC? You know,
I have as good a chance as any I mean,
it's New England's owned me. But their teams, you know,
talent wise, not as crazy. We've We've gone on the
road before and beat Kansas City. We're not scared of
San Diego or l A. Uh why couldn't they win
the sc right now? Yeah? They play l A in
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two weeks, that's on the in December two on their home.
You doing an NFL game? Yes, I'm doing so. I'm
doing Saints Bengos. I want to ask about that John
Middlecoff three Now podcast. It's like the best game, right,
I know it is? Okay, So a bunch of stuff here. Um,
what do you think of the Dez thing with New Orleans?
Kind of similar thing, like they kind of got a
roll in and they've been doing it with Michael Thomas
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and a whole not a whole lot else, right, Ted
Ginn gets hurt. And I don't know what you think
of Ted Gain, although he's better now than he used
to be in terms of consistency of catching a football,
But you know, they're they're doing kind of smoking mirrors.
And now you bring in a guy who like, look,
I don't love Dez Bryant, but for minimum for a
million dollars as my number two and what's really number
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three threat? I kind of like it. At first, I
didn't because, like most of the country last week, I
helicoptered in on their season. I mean I watched the Saints,
but not like start to finish all their games and
you go, god, I I came away from that game
not why would you need des Bryant? And then you
kind of really dive in and go, jeez, they don't
really have a number two wide receiver. It feels like
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they do because they spread the ball around to their
running backs. Kamara catches the ball a lot, but the
next highest receiver was was what like Ted Ginn and
that other dude, the rookie Hill that had twelve catches
and they don't have another productive wide receiver. Now I
do think they also, you know, it's not very much
money if it doesn't work, Like, hey, Dees, this is
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on you. If you can't shape end us this organization
with Drew Brees and Sean Payton and this offense, then
we'll just get rid of you in a couple of weeks.
If you if you're any sort of problem, and you
have to give us everything from everything we need typically
like in the red zone. I saw Sean Payton said,
we need him in the red zone, we need him
on third down like that, you have an unreal opportunity
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now I think I also saw Sean Payton said he's
a little bit overweight, which would be normal, right, He
hasn't he's been working out on his own. But he
to me, Daz has a lot to prove. You know,
it's not like but but it's a but it's a
good opportunity for him because if he shows that he
cannot derail, he cannot deray, he doesn't derail a winner.
He shows that he can be a number two or
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number three threat and except less targets. If he shows
that he can block down field, like yeah, by the way,
anytime somebody says the guy's five point pounds over weight,
you know that means he's ten pounds, right, But I mean,
is he so he's gonna address this weekend? I take it. No,
he's not. He's not gonna. Okay, so you're might You're right,
he might be like twelve fifteen pounds overweight. He need
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that week Sana. But but but a good a good
like a good test for for the Saints, a team
that everyone says like, man if it's in the Dome,
but if it's not, the Bengals don't have their best player,
but they are at home. Uh, mixing is back healthy? Tyler?
Tyler boy is gonna have to side over the number one?
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Like this is not a great or maybe even very
good Bengals team, but it's a great opportunity for a
Bengals team off of by more healthy against the Saints
team that no one believes can win in any sort
of cold weather. Yeah, but like you said, I mean
that environment, it's just kind of I've been to that
stadium before when I was scouting. It's just a tough area.
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Uh that that team with a J Green that's a massive,
massive loss. But their defensive line is really good. Their
front seven has played really well whenever I've watched them
this season that they're to me, they're pretty talented. Now,
a big part of their whole deal was a j
was having a fantastic season. So I think that's a
big loss. But I do think that, you know, New
Orleans coming off a massive win, there is let down potential.
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But if you are and I do believe this, like
I think the Saints are super Bowl level team. And
if you're a super Bowl level team, like you handle
business even if it's ugly, you know, whatever you have
to do to win this game. The score is meaningless
after last week, just find a way to win this game.
Colder weather, outdoors, a solid a f T. I mean,
the Bengals are looking at it like we're gonna be
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a wild card. You know, we're a playoff level team.
So if they were to win this game, they would
be what six and three? Hell, they'd still be in
position for the Division s Doug Alive Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Did you hear what Marcus Peters had
to say about Sean Payton. I did. I didn't think
Sean Payton really said that much. He just said we
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liked the match up. It's not like he said you.
Marcus Peters thinks, what do you think about Mark Marcus
Peters saying you know, well, you know, uh, basically, we'll
see you again. I can't you know, we'll see you again.
I got something for you. I mean, I I get it.
But to me, it's like, hey, Marcus, I like you,
and I really liked a couple of years ago. As
a player. You're pretty hit or miss right now. I
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think Rodde Rende said it pretty well a couple of
weeks ago when they were playing up in Seattle. Like,
let's not get it twisted. He gives up as many
plays as he makes. Now he makes some big time plays.
But Marcus, you just got destroyed, like they just kept
coming after you. And I I look, Michael Thomas, Michael
Thomas is really good. But let's not think Michael Thomas
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is a burner, right Like Michael Thomas, you can't run. Yeah,
he's like a four or five eight guy. You know,
he's not flying. Marcus has not played as well the
last couple of years. Uh. He had the big playoff
game where he made some plays last year in Kansas City,
but it's like Marcus and people aren't scared of you anymore.
I mean kind of carrying himself like Revus. Marcus is
also has to be a little careful. He is heading
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into a free agent year. Uh you know, it's like
you kind of gotta acting like this again. I get
standing up for yourself and even blasting back a little bit.
But I don't know, man, he just got worked. Speaking
of getting worked, the Redskins got worked. There's still in
first place. But you want to talk about a team
that nobody and I know they've had they had a
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ton of injuries too. Um, but Jordan Read's clear to play.
What do we make of the Redskins after an Atlanta
team that's had a litany of injuries on defense just
came in and mopped the field with them. Well, I
think it does speak to Atlanta. I mean they're a
team I might put a decent amount of money on
this weekend. I think they're rolling. I mean they look
pretty good. I'm not writing off the Redskins just yet,
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because if Alex doesn't play well, their team can just
look terrible. And he's had some games this year where
he just looks pretty blow. I don't know quite what
to make of him. I don't. After last week and
they were one of the game, they were the only
morning game I got in the Bay Area, I was
pretty I mean, how could you not be very unimpressed?
I started thinking of God, in no way this team's
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making hold on, hold on, you don't have direct TV,
you don't have the package. No, I'm just a because
I I watched, you know, the two Bay Area teams,
and I usually get two games. I got two Red Zone.
You know, I don't I get enough, but you know,
I get exactly the game I want, and then I
can go back and Rewatch. I can't. I just I
know you can go back, and Rewatch. I just can't
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believe that you don't have the package. I just well,
because for the most part, Doug, you really I only
get screwed on the occasional morning game on you know,
you know, you know it's an underrated you know it's
you know, it's an underrated state for for getting. Where
you don't need the package is Connecticut because you get
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and I know, and I know what you're saying, where
you always have the afternoon game. So morning games usually
get kind of the pick of the litter right because
the area team. So I get to see both conferences
and you know, basically every team come through, so I
get a pretty good idea right when you When I
was in Connecticut, you get Jets and Giants and Patriots,
so you kind of get you kind of get all.
You gotta get a smore disport of them. And honestly,
(25:51):
if they were all play at the same time, you
got them, you could get them all and you'd be like,
this is the greatest, and then whatever the other time
slots are, and then you know, now you have Thursday
and you got you got Sunday night, and you got Monday,
so you don't need it as much. It's one of
the things the NFL has done kind of uh, kind
of under the raters. Sorry, sorry to call you. I
don't see I see. I don't feel like I like
it with the NBA, you needed a little more. With football.
(26:12):
I never really feel like I miss anything beside maybe
one sweet national like a FC game that I might
get screwed out of that I can always go back
and watch Packers are a game and a half back
of the Bears. They still have to go to Chicago.
They still have to go to Seattle. UM. That's next
Thursday night. They have to go to Minnesota take on
(26:34):
the Vikings. And you mentioned those falcons. Albeit falcons would
be in the cold, they still have the falcons left.
Is this a last season? Here's the conversation, Doug, who's
the next coach of the Packers? That's where I think
we're at November nine. Who's the next coach? Because I
over so give me the give me the You're in
the you're in the front office, and you're you're somebody's
(26:58):
at the white board and they're throwing out names. What
are the three names? Who are the three names? John
D Philippo, you know who's the hot offensive coordinator also
in the division, so he would know the team's young guy.
I think you would call Lincoln Riley the third one.
There's not really the recycled Andy Reid type guy on
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the market. At least it's looking like this year you
can't hire a defensive coach. So I think you got
John D. Philippo. I think you got Lincoln Riley. It's hard.
I don't I've been thinking about this Kingsbury any anyway, Kingsbury,
I don't know. Uh, maybe I actually kind of like
Cliff Kingsbury, but that that would be a pretty bold mood.
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But that's not that crazy. They've actually played a lot
better this season. Uh, Texas Tech. The one thing the
Packers will have going for him when when they do fire.
Mike McCarthy is there the Green Bay Packers and Aaron
Rodgers is still you know, in his prime and under contract.
So this me, that's it's a unique job. I don't
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think you could hire him because of the proximity to
the substance stuff. But am I wrong? Is Steve Sarkatian
has done an awesome job in Atlanta? He has, But
I see, I'm I'm on the other side. I know
you and Colin you guys like him. I I don't know.
I've never been the biggest fan. And the stuff that
happened at SC I no, no, I listened. I'm not
(28:24):
going to dismiss this stuff. But but he did. I mean, like, look,
he actually did a really good job turning around Washington
and I just spiraled out of control at USC. But
I mean, look that often Matt Ryan is having a
ridiculously good year and he's done a really good job. Again,
you're you're allowed to hold his past against him, and
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I don't think he's hirable yet in a college and
probably not in the NFL either, But I'm just in
just in judging. Yeah, I mean a little younger probably
could relate to Aaron. You know, it's not that crazy.
I'm not saying it's like out of left field, because
that's what you're looking for, right, someone that can get
along with your quarterback. I mean it's also something that
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can stimulate. It's like about an intellectual stimulation, right. You
gotta make him think he's trying and doing some of
the cool creative stuff, like yeah, I want to do.
It's like when you your your dad wants to have
the good new My dad always wanted to have the
cool new piece of technological equipment, right, Like remember when
a cam quarter came out at the video the video
the video machine that could also play it on your
(29:29):
VCR so you didn't have to take it out. Like,
but he never knew how to use all of it.
But it's just the idea of it. That's kind of
where we are with Aaron Rodgers. Like I'm not sure
you're really gonna run all this Andy Reid stuff, all
this pre snap stuff, but you at least want to
stimulate him to think he's doing something different than he's
done the last ten years. Would all be fascinated this
offseat or just that little period when they're kind of
(29:49):
going through guys, if they missed the playoffs and Mike
McCarthy's fired when they miss the playoffs, I mean, they're
not gonna make the playoffs. Is do they treat it
like Daryl Morey treats with James Harden and the Warriors
do with like Steph They are they gonna go to Aaron?
Is he gonna be a part of the process? You know?
Would they even give him that option? Maybe they would,
And it's not crazy if they did. I mean, he
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is their franchise. So you want to make him feel
a part of it because this next high or higher
at least for the next you know, in the short
term three four years, you have a chance to win
a super Bowl and be a power again because you
still have Aaron. Like it's a it's a very very
unique job because of Aaron Rodgers completely completely agree. Doug
(30:32):
got the show here on Fox Sports Radio one to
Zion Williams, Doug Williamson, Uh, would he be a top
five NFL draft pick. He looks like Khalil Mack. The hair,
do the biceps. I mean, I I thought he accept
he's like he's six five. How he got him? He's taller.
(30:53):
He's a freak man, total freak I just I don't
know if you can play in the NBA at two
five and he doesn't have the body type You're like,
oh hey, dude, you need to play at too forty.
You know. Yeah, it was I was glued to my
television even in a blowout, just oh my, this is
one of the great explosive athletes. And you know, I
(31:15):
was like, remember like Clowney when he was a sophomore,
and it was like, I does not look like other
humans on the field, and he was in the SEC.
That's what That's what Zion looked like. The other night
was just oh my god. Yep, and and crazy enough.
He's actually not the best freshman on the on that
roster um in terms of prospect or current player, but
(31:36):
he was still He's spectacular and his athleticism is is
he from Carolina, from South Carolina, South Carolina, from close
to Clemson. Stepdad played at Clemson. Clemson thought they were
getting him South Carolina thought they had a shot at
him and he ends up going to Duke South Carolina
has had a good little run of the clowneys uh.
I think au Sean Jeffreys from there, He's from there.
(31:56):
Kevin Garnett and Kevin. Kevin Garnett's from there. Yeah, ray
Allen ray Allan was a military brideber from there. John
Middle CALLF three and out. Is the podcast downloaded. It's outstanding, John,
Thanks so much for joining us. Later, dog, have a
good weekend enjoying to alright. Be sure to catch live
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(32:17):
Dan Buyer, Dan what he got breaking news from Fox
Sports Doug. This just in from the NFL Network. Saints
wide receiver Dez Bryant was injured in practice today and
the team fears he may have torn his achilles. So
when we talk about des his debut with the Saints,
it may not happen at all. But the NFL Network
(32:38):
saying that Saints wide receiver Dez Bryan may have torn
his achilles during a workout today. Oh my goodness. Alright,
so uh, Bradley chevs on. Hold you have a hold
on real quick. Um. I actually I feel terrible for Dez,
but this is I've told people this long time for
(32:58):
a long time, and does relate to Deth Brian And
this is why the wait thing I've been kind of
teasing all day about Hey, the the five pounds heavy
really feels like it's ten or maybe even more pounds heavy.
And that's I'm sure what John Payton was talking about. Um,
look the key and if you're if you're an athlete
of any elk, can you listen to this show or
you listen to this pod. And lots of my buddies
(33:19):
will play basketball sitting. They're gonna sit there and nod
their head when I say this. And a bunch of
you guys were former jocks as well. Look, we all
when we get older, you still your your mind still
thinks you're younger, and you're like, well, I'm smarter now,
I know how to move with my body. If you're
gonna get back into playing sports, right, you can play
in the men's league and play volleyball. You're gonna play tennis,
(33:40):
You're gonna do anything. The first thing you need to
do is lose the weight, because when you're a couple
of pounds to anymore overweight, your your body is used
to doing athletic things with its old way, in addition
to the fact it suffered somewhere and hair. So and
(34:02):
it's you're like, well, how do I lose weight without
playing sports? Like, well, it's a lot about diet. And
then you know, you gotta do a lot of yoga
and a lot of stretching, and there's you gotta do.
You gotta uh do a lot less impactful stuff. But
this is classic sign of what happens the guys later
in their career, especially when they're carrying a couple too many,
(34:24):
a couple too many, a couple too many pounds. But
that's a wow, wow, wow. And I would guess it
means for you know, for next season, I mean, good
luck getting a you know, here's Dez who thought, all right,
well I have to I'll just play this year, show
people I can play and then next year. Remember Terrell Owens,
(34:48):
in addition to being a pain in the ask what
led to him uh not no one picking up the
phone and calling him towards a c L in his
mid thirties, towards a c and has mid thirties, So
I don't think you have to be the biggest Dez
Brian fan to feel like, man, that sucks, right, because
he was gonna play against the Cowboys, and I would
(35:09):
love to see if Atweena didn't you want to see
him like I legitimately wanted to see him play against
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Defense Van Bradley Chubb is joining us on behalf of
(35:29):
Old Spice. They had the new Fomer body Wash. Thanks
for coming on the show, Bradley. I've been told that
you know specifically what the number four teen point five
has in terms of significance at your position? What is
that significance? Record to take too much about him, but uh,
(35:50):
I'll definitely look at it every day. Yeah, and then
of course, uh that would shatter the record of eleven
point five sacks set by Von Miller, who was that's
that's the Bronch Broncos rookie record. What what what's just
been like for you? I mean, because you know we
hear from so many different guys different positions that the
adjustment to the speed of the game, you know, is
(36:11):
it And of course the lifestyle changes things. But for you,
it seems like you've adjusted really quickly. What in reality,
what's the suggestment been like for you? Uh, the justment
has been pretty good. I mean at the beginning of
the season, I'm not gonna last, I struggle with just
trying to uh not trying to mess up and not
trying to just you know what I'm saying, just trying
to be as cost as I could and not just
(36:32):
going out there and playing. And then I felt like
when I started just getting comfortable, having getting getting around
the guys more and just having that that team chemistry
and stuff like that, then stuffed up to click from
me because I realized that if the reason that they
drafted me is to make plays and stuff like that
and just go out there and play and not to
think and not to go out there and just trying
not to mess up. So my main thing was just
(36:54):
get my confidence back and making sure that I just
went out there every week and uh did with the
team asked me to do. Bradley Chef joining us in
the doug Otlip Show, the team has struggled to Bradley
Chub has not. Uh. This is and you know, what
you're doing runs counter to what most guys that put
up sack numbers, you know, right, because most guys that
get a lot of sacks they're playing on really really
(37:15):
good teams. They get a lead early and the team
has the opposition has to throw the football, so you
get more opportunities. I actually think if you could put
a positive asterisk by your sack total because you're playing
on a team which has played in so many close
games and lost several of them, and it makes it
harder to get those stats, doesn't it. Uh Yeah, I
(37:38):
don't feel like I see what you're saying, but yeah,
just every time I get an opportunity risk pressure with
me and von Inshane is that and the rest of
the line we got that their mindset that we're gonna
get them, so uh uh, just trying to make the
best every opportunity we to get. Bradley Chef joining us
on the Dug Outlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
What have you learned from Von? Uh? Everything from on
(38:01):
the field to off the field to what I do
with my body in the in between games and to
what I do in the off season when I don't
feel like, you know, I'm saying, spending money and stuff
like that. So he's been very helpful. Just like I
told somebody earlier, he's like been like a big brother
to me and this and this whole thing. Um, just
somebody I could always talk to if I need to
have a question about certain things or something like that.
(38:22):
And then I also have my my own other brother
that I could talk to about things, so it's like
having two brothers and stuff. So it's pretty cool. He's
been been great knowledge to me, but to all the
other rookies and stuff like that. Just very welcoming. All right,
So here, here's what you have to do. You have
to give me, you said on the field and off
the field, to give me one thing on the field
that you picked up from Van Noor. On the field,
(38:44):
I would say, um, just how to how to how
to attack um, like how to attack the game, like
the whole skill set of past us and whether it
be from watching film from on how the officer the
tackle kicks and and how he punches this handed the
wild punchect close to punch or something like that, you
know what I'm saying, Just different things like that. So
(39:04):
just stuff like how to watch film, Brad that we
don't know. Listen, listen, You're like, you know, like we
don't know. Okay, so so so you you so he
taught like he taught you how to watch how dudes
punches and that you adjust your moves accordingly. You watch
how his feet kick and that's how you adjust your
moves accordingly. Right right, Just tying the stuff up and
being a fishing with your with your body and with
(39:25):
your hands in college when you're an NC state? Was
it just raw ability or was it was some of this? Was?
How much of this did you know? Coming in? I
knew about it percent of it and then uh, just
trying to consider to learning each and every day he's
telling me different things that he's learned. Uh. We of
course everybody has had different coutures to tell them different
(39:46):
things and got different languages for stuff like that, and
so sometimes we're talking about the same things, but we
just got different names for it. So it has been
just yeah, just just really just talking football. Bradley Chaff
joining us in the Dug out Lip Show here on
Fox Forwards Radio Okay, give me one thing off the field,
but your as your diet changed. Yeah, my diets definitely changed. Uh.
(40:07):
I remember this is right after I got drafted. Um,
it's like probably about a week or two after I
got drafted. I haven't really met him yet. And then
uh he had put on his like Instagram story like
like deer back or something like that. I like, bro,
what is it? What are you eating? And then uh,
I remember he told me, he was like, man, you
gotta you gotta field to ferrari with with good stuff,
not just anything stuff. Yeah. Yeah, So when he when
(40:29):
he told me that, and just just seeing how clean
he eats, um eating every day. Of course he has
a chef and stuff that that brings a food and
all that. So just saying how clean he eats, and
it just makes you want to do the same things
he's doing because he's playing at a high level. So
are you eating? Are you eating venison? Is that what
you're doing? Have you changed the venison diet? Like? What,
give me one thing you've added to your diet that
you did not eat when you were in college. Uh,
(40:52):
I've ate a lot of fast food in college, I said,
I haven't touched fast food since I've been uh pretty
much been here throughout this season. Just gave me a
fast food game. We're trying to give up sweets. Uh,
that's probably the hardest thing because I got a sweet
tooth like crazy every night and every night before games
in college, I'll eat cookies and ice cream, So trying
to get away from that. But yeah, just cleared up
(41:13):
as much as I can. What kind of ice cream?
But just vanilla talcol till cookies with vanilla ice cream. Solid. Man,
you can't. I can't um Canes or Chick fil a
Canes or chick fil A. Yeah, I'm from the South.
I gotta go Chick fil A. Well, I mean Canes
is also for like from the South. Right, Okay, did
you go like hardcore sweet tea? Did you go did
(41:35):
you go soda? But back in the day when you
were doing fast food, did you do like half sweet
tea half regular tea? What was your How would you
get down when you would go to Chick fil a?
Hardcore sweet tea for sure? If I want to til
I get to lemonade from there. Yeah, yeah, you can
do lemonade tea as well, although the Chick fil A
they'll do sweet tea with lemonade, which is like the
sweetest thing you've ever had, ever had in your life. Uh,
(41:57):
speaking of college, what happened to your boys? Man? And
see State was cruising along and now all of a
sudden they're getting smacked and lose the wake forest. What's
going on with that? Oh? Man, just just growing pains
and stuff. Man, just just I feel like they're just
trying to I wouldn't say trying to find the identity
because they got a lot of great players, a lot
of great talent. It's just it just comes down to
um making a mistake here there. Last night, they made
(42:19):
a couple of mistakes towards the end of the game
and end up causing them. So I just gotta those
guys just got locked in and stuff. I'm still supporting,
but um, yeah, it is a little hard when you
lose and when you started off so good. But I
know those guys gonna bounce back. All right. You're a
you're a tough guy. Um, you're on pace to set
the rookie sack record Bradley Chub joining us. But you're
(42:41):
also a foaming body wash guy. You're foaming body wash guy.
Now do you go Lufa with your old spice um
foamer or do you go you go uh wash Rack?
I go wash Rag. I gotta go wash Rack because
the loofa it starts to hurt. You say, scrub up
too hard, so I gotta go wash. You can pick
it up at Walmart. Bradley Chub joins us on behalf
(43:01):
of the new old spice Foam that's foaming body wash
that lathers in a flash, and go uh go wash
Rag if you want to go Bradley Chub style. Bradley,
thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you being our
guest on Fox Sports Radio. You, no doubt thanks for
having me on the show.
Host
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