November 13, 2018 • 31 mins
Doug thinks Le'Veon Bell is making a big mistake by choosing to sit out the entire season to preserve his body and hit free agency in 2019. He also tells you why the feud between Draymond Green and Kevin Durant is nothing to be worried about. Raptors head coach Nick Nurse joins the show to tell us what it is like to coach Kawhi Leonard in his first season with Toronto.
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You know, it's always interesting to me on how on
how we we consume the news and the assumption that
we make that everything is comps. Everything's about comps, comparable, comparable,
comfortable we use. It's it's really more a real estate term, alright,
where you take five to ten comparable houses in terms
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of neighborhood, lot size, square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms, and you
try and compare it. Um. And so, Levian Bell wanted
to reset the running back market. Going back a couple
of years ago, Todd Gurley signed a four year extension
this offseason worth sixty million dollars. Forty five million dollars
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is guaranteed. That's according to multiple reports, and Todd Gurley
has been worth every bit of it. He was gonna
make two He's gonna make to uh two point three
million dollars this year as a last year of his
rookie deal. He'll make eleven point nine million dollars starting
in two thousand twenty UM. Levian Bell was gonna make
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four team and a half million dollars this year. He's
gonna make. He made twelve million dollars last year. And
he has chosen and apparently the Bell has just rung
to not show up to the Steeler's facility and essentially
become an unrestricted free agent at years and this this
is a game of chicken. Neither side essentially blinked. The
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only difference is the Steelers had what is your win
above replacement? That That's what it comes down to. How
much more effective is a team with you as opposed
to with whoever they replace you. That's baseball does that
all the time. James Conner makes five hundred and seventy
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eight thousand dollars five hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars.
So the downside to the Steelers is that, in spite
of the fact they were despite the fact they were
willing to pay Levy on Bell fourteen point five four
four million dollars franchise Tech, they never got to use
him for even one game. That's the downside. The upside
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is his replacement has and I know statistically he's been better.
I told you this portions like Levian Bell staying so
I'm not gonna sit here and crush Levian Bell as
a football player. That would be dumb. That would be dumb.
But in spite of the fact that they don't have uh,
Levian Bell, they've been able to have a really good
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offense and save all of that money. Now they also,
you know, if if he signs the free agent, they
will get a compensatory third round pick, which again is
not at the value of Levian Bell. But I think
this is one of which I would guess Levan ultimately loses.
He know, he loses fourteen a half million dollars that
he'll never see again. I don't believe he'll get the
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big contract. He believes that he deserves. Yes, the Jets
have a ton of money and they do need a
running back, but why would the Jets spend all that
money on a running back? Right? Like? Did they just
show up here? Todd Gurley, fourth pick, Zeki Elliott, fourth pick,
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James Conner the replacement third and rushing Kareem Hunt. Third
round pick Adrian Peterson, who even though Adrian Peterson is
a former m v P, they got Adrian Peterson off
the street late into trading camp. These are the top
rushers in the NFL. Melvin Gordon, he's a first round pick. Uh,
Matt Brita from San Francisco. What round? And Matt bred
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to go in? I want to guess he's from Georgia
Southern he was undrafted. Yes, se Kwon Barkley is really good,
but so is Philip Lindsay. And look at Philip Phillip
Lindsay as a rookie in the numbers he's putting up.
It doesn't mean that the formula is always to go
less expensive, third, fourth round. But I don't really understand
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why somebody who has cap space would go bring in
a levy on Bell in spite of the fact he's
super talented. He hadn't played a year, and he wants
huge money, and he's in his late twenties. And what
we've seen before is the more guys layoff, the more
likely they are they already get hurt. Period. You know,
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I think what Levan Bell the key calculation that he
missed on is this is money that he'll never make back.
And here's where the real estate analogy really works. Some
of you are in this predicament and you're trying to
make a decision. And Ramos, I think knows this buyers
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a homeowner. He knows this music is looking. You know,
he's living with the in laws, living in sin even
though they're not actually his in laws yet, um, but
looking to save up money ultimately when he gets married
to buy a house. A lot of people are in
this predicament. The best time to sell a house is
late spring, because people with families move in the summer.
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You don't wanna you want to pack up and leave
in the middle of a school year. It's just really
as hard as moving is on the kids, it's really
harder and during during school year. So you get to
the fall and now a sudden the weather starts to
turn and if I'm a buyer. Now is a great
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time in most places across the country to go buy.
Once there's snow on the grounds. People do want to
go look at houses. They don't gonna open houses. They
don't want to go like I just I don't want
to walk around on a Saturday and Sunday go into
a bunch of people's houses, you know, dry off my feet,
take off my coat, walk around like now, not buying
this house, and just you don't. It's hard to sell
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a house in the winter. So you've had your house
on the market, and maybe you over listed your house.
I've had this problem before. You have a house that's
worth you know, you think it's you know, my buddy
down the streets sold his for five. I'm gonna sell
mine for five fifty, or at least put on the
market five. Somebody obviously five. It's there's and it sits,
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and it sits, and it sits, and somebody comes in
and low balls you and offers you. Meanwhile, you already
have the house of your dreams that is available in
the town that you want to move to, two towns over,
and you're sitting there saying to yourself, you know, I
could wait until the spring, and maybe I get five
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dred from my house, or maybe I get five fifty
from my house. But I gotta make all these house
payments string now and then, Whereas if I sell the
house now, it's not money that I'm just it's not interested.
I'm just paying out for a house that I don't
ultimately want. It's the same reason that when you win
the lottery, they tell you to take all the money upfront,
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don't take the payments, take all the money up front,
and then you invest the money instead of getting it piecemeal,
which seems like more money because less taxes are individually
taken out of But money is beginning. Is that money
is gonna be less valuable over time because of inflation levy.
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On Bell's calculation of hey, I'm worth sixteen a year,
I'm worth a certain number guaranteed upfront, he may be right.
But even if he is right, even if he hits
that magic number of seventeen million dollars guaranteed per year
salary cap going up, there's several teams that need a
running back, and he's still technically in his prime and
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he can make the sale. I got fresh legs. I
haven't been hit in a year, I haven't taken the
normal beating of a seven year running back. Even if
that's said that's fourteen a half million dollars, he won't
be able to make back. If he makes two million
dollars more than the mark, it doesn't matter. That's fourteen
and a half million dollars. He will never make back.
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And so the calculation is wrong. And my wife, honestly,
I'll give her respect sheet. She told me this several
times over. Like when we sold houses, like you know,
I think if we hold out, we get fifteen dollars more,
we get twenty more. Here we sold a bunch of
different houses. Some we've made money, something we've lost money on.
But generally it's like you know what, with every passing week,
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with every passing month, we're just investing money. Don't know,
host your house, you know what I'm talking about. You know,
even if it's when you're gonna sell, you still we
gotta keep the painting up. We gotta occasionally have a
plumber over. We gotta got this, we gotta have that.
We gotta have a direct TV. And we got a caboy.
Like you just keep putting money into something you're not
ultimately getting that much money back in it's money you
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won't get back. This is money he won't get back.
I won't get it back. I don't feel pity for him.
I just feel like this is a calculated error and
it's a it's a total guy error. This is the
most guy thing in a manly sport like the NFL.
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This is the most manly thing you can do, which
is not a minim mistake. Before the days of GPS,
before the days of punching into your phone or punching
it in, you used to I don't need to ask
for directions. I don't need to ask for directions. I
don't need to stop. I know where I'm going. I
got my own personal GPS. And you just keep driving
around and driving around, your wife or your girlfriend or
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your buddy sitting there going like, hey, dude, you're lost.
Pull over now, man, I'm good. I'm good. I I no, no, no,
that's the street right there. That's not the street. That's
the street right there, that's not that, that's not the street.
In the guys that won't ask for directions, that's Levyan Bell.
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I've been told his agent wanted him to sign way
back in the day one to sign the new deal.
He didn't want to sign him to a fine. Sign
the franchise tag, show up play, you'd make twenty six
and a half million dollars over two years guaranteed with
back to back franchise tag. He didn't do it, and
he still would have gotten a new contract next year.
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So Levan is gonna be made into some sort of martyr.
But the truth is he's the guy that doesn't take
the payout from winning the lottery and thinks he's got
it all set up, he knows exactly what he's doing,
when the fact is he cost himself money that he'll
never make back. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug Dot Leaps Show week days in noon eastern
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three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. In the NBA, last night, the Clippers
took on the Warriors. Warriors don't have Steph Curry, who's
still nursing that pulled adductor muscle. That's like a muscle,
it's basically a growing muscle, not a ligament or tendant.
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But what happened at the end of regulation and what
boiled over in the locker room far more interesting. At
the end of regulation, Andre Goodala is guarding Lou Williams.
Lou Williams goes one on one. Igodala plays perfect defense.
He shoots the ball that barely grazes the front iron.
I think it was tied at one thirteen apiece if
I'm remembering to play correctly. Draymond Green gets the rebound. Now, look,
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Draymond Green is a good ball handler, a good passer.
Kevin ransting right next to him, and he's he's he's
jumping up in the air. He's he's doing the what
my son does to try and get an outlet. Pass
standing in the wrong place. But you know, with the
right spirit in mind, give me the ball, Give me
the ball, give me the ball, and um. Draymond instead
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decides to go one on five. I've dribbles down the court,
tries to split two defenders, and though he had a
couple other Warriors teammates open, the ball got hit, hit
off his knee, stumbles around, and they don't even get
a shot. In the ensuing huddle, Durant and Draymond have words.
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They have to be separated. Draymond is held back and
and the guy who calmed Draymond down. This is some
stuff you don't see every day. Right, is DeMarcus Cousins? Right,
when DeMarcus Cousins is the calming influence in the huddle,
You're like, wait, is this opposite day? Draymond and k
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D go out, The team plays terribly in overtime, the
Clippers win the game. Reported by multiple sources that the uh,
the hurt feelings spawned spilled over in the locker room,
and most of the teammates had the back of Kevin
Durant and we're telling Draymond Green he needs to pass
the ball. Sham Sharania, who works for Stadium, reported that, uh,
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Draymond Green brought up Kevin Durant's pending free agency, and
Sharanio reported that that has been a sore subject within
the team behind closed doors, and only Draymond aired it.
So the more I hear about it, the more I realize.
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I do think that Draymond and KD are friends. I
do think that this stuff does get ironed out. But
I also think that Draymond is that guy that brings
up the elephant in the room in the middle of
an argument that she just takes. Oh, that's why she
left you Like, wait, what, that's why? That's why Gina
left you? Dude, that that ain't right. Don't I'll be
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going there, or you start talking about something like yeah,
well oh I was a sharing stuff. Yeah I I
kissed your sister when we were in I schooling. Whoa
what like he's one of that's that's who Draymond is.
I don't think it's full scale psychological warfare. I just
think he's one of those guys that this is how
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he rolls. This is how he rolls. And while it
why could while it could be super healthy, Hey, let's
just get it out in the air and say it. Yo,
k D, you're gonna leave anyway. Are all these reports
that are being leaked to people about you being interested
in New York? Are those coming from you? That can't?
That can be super super healthy in front of all
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your boys? Oh you know, look, I I do think
there's some health to it. Let's just get it out there.
Why everybody else walks? I'm not walking on eggshells around
Kevin Durant. That's not how we roll. Hey, k D
wants to be Remember Katie's whole thing this year is
I'm gonna be the real me, not me, the real me,
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no more fake key K. I'm gonna be the real me,
all right? If you the real me? Who's the real you?
Are you the real you that's leaking stories to Adrian
Morganowski and all these different people that you're interested in
possibly going to New York and play for the Knicks?
Are you interested in going to play for lebron Lakers?
Are you the which is the real k D? Now? Look,
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part of that is this is kind of how a
lot of times how I roll. I do think there
are a person that are buttons. You can't press with
the wrong guy, and you better know who you're pressing
buttons with, because once it's out there, it's out there.
Once it's out there, it's out there. But that's who,
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That's who. Draymond Green is music. What do you think?
Do you do? Do you think this is un unreasonable
airing of of grievances by by by Draymond or do
you think this is just how their relationship works and
ultimately gets ironed out. It's tough. I would say that
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the only reason it would be unnecessary on the behalf
of Draymond Green is because we have seen Look call
it how it is, Kevin Durant is a little on
the sensitive side, would you agree? So if you know
that about your best player on the team, or some
people may say Steph Curry, you know whatever, we can
argue that on the other side of it. But Kevin
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Durant the best player on your team, if you know
he's sensitive, probably not the best approach in that circumstance.
I also just think that we know, uh Draymond Green
is an emotional person, probably knew that he was the
one who blew it at the end of the game.
But as you mentioned with Levan Bell earlier, doesn't want
to admit that he's in the wrong, So he's trying
to deflect, Oh, I didn't blow it at the end
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of the game? What about you? K do? Are you
even gonna be here next season? So he's trying to
get the the attention off of himself, knowing full well
that he cost them the game against the Clippers. Yeah, look, blamer,
blamer guy. You know you know I have I have
a might have a daughter who's a blame her daughter, right,
she said everything is always somebody else's fault. Somebody else
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did it, somebody else did it wrong, and I don't
know if that's who Draymond is, so we don't know
the context of it. But but the idea that it is,
you know, it is out of bounds, It is unhealthy,
it is we don't know the nature of their relationship.
And while you're right, Katie appears to be super, super
sensitive to criticism, it's different when it's your boys, and
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it's different when you know it may feel bad at
the time, but you get it off your chest. You
get off your chest. Hey man, I don't know why
we're even harving this argument, Like you don't want to
be here. You don't want to be here. We're gonna
be real. You'd be real and tell us what's up.
You come back next year or not. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays
in noon eastern three pm Pacific. The Raptors have been
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arguably the best team in the NBA to date. Nick Nurse,
their first year head coach, joins us on The Doug
got Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Nick, thanks so
much for taking time. I know it's it's hard coming
off a loss, but you told us you'd do it.
You did. Awesome of you. How do you balance how
you've played the rest of the season with how you
played last night? Uh, well, Doug, it's a good team
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that came in here and chopped the ball really well,
and we didn't We didn't do a lot to stop them. Um,
I don't know, just one of those funny nights where um,
the ball seemed to bounce off the room for us
and bounce on and into the basket for them, and
we couldn't quite made a couple of weight runs back
at him, got it six and a couple different times,
and they just take it right back out and they
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played great. Yeah. I remember I remember listening to Chuck
Daily one time and he was talking about, like the
key to the lasting in this league is there are
nights in which your team just doesn't have it. There
are nights in which your team might not have the
edge at the start, and you can get out of them,
but you have to read your team and something you
just you can't go to the whip every night eight
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because it's eighty two game season plus the playoffs. It's
like a hundred games. Which was last night? Was last
night a night to which you guys just didn't have it?
Or was it a lack of sharpness at the start.
Um we certainly didn't have you know, much of the night, Doug,
and I think, uh, you know, when you're playing really
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well and and uh, we've actually we've been uh fairly
consistent on putting some defensive runs together this season where
where we might just go get eight, nine, ten stops
in a row, and you know, you kind of on
a night like last night, kind of waiting for that
to happen and hoping it's gonna and you have belief
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in your team that is going to happen. You know,
we were certainly making some corrections, trying to change the matchups,
doing a few different coverages, um et cetera, hoping that
thing was going to come, and it just never did
last night. So it was just like, well, we just
didn't quite have the juice in our step last night
to make the defensive fun happened, and we shot a
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lot of open shots that that just that just didn't
the win last night. So, like you said, it's eighty
two games long, it's gonna happen once in a while.
Nick Nurse joining us in the Doug gallaxho of course,
some then nights they'll be nights like when you were
up I don't know, at seventeen or something on the
Lakers without Kauai. So sometimes the bugs, sometimes the windshield. Um,
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you know, when I watch your team, to me, it's
O G. S uh. You know. Between O G and
Pascal Man, I feel like they're probably the least discussed
guys that are game changers for you because they're young,
they can guard multiple positions, and if they show they
can continue to make shots like this, this has to
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change everyone's perspective on your team. What's it been like
to in in addition to trying to integrate Kauai, watch
these two young players blossom. Well, it's been It's been great.
I think I mentioned that lightly late in the summer.
You know, everybody wanted to talk about the few new
guys we had coming and right rightly so right quiet
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and Danny and even Greg Monroe, um, and I kind
of mentioned to few people that I think we're going
to at some point in the season we're talking about
O G and Pascal just because every time I went
to see him this summer, they just looked like they
were improving, you know, just just like it was so
visible they were getting better. And better and better, and
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I was just like, you guys are these guys are
gonna are going to do something this year, and that's
that's going to become a story as well. At some
point I thought I didn't quite expect it to happen
this early, especially with og he missed most of training
camp and has been out some. Uh, he's starting to
come now. But Pascal, obviously he was the Eastern Conference
Player of the Week. He's been playing great. But it's
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it's fun to watch. They put in a lot of work,
They're super attentive. They both got tremendous energy and athleticism. Um,
and I couldn't be happier for for both of them really,
all Right, when when when we heard Kauai laugh to
start the season, um, I think part of the reason,
part of was his laughed and part of it was
we we hear so little from him that there's no
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real we we don't know, Okay, is that who he
really is? Is that? What's he really like? What's something
about Kauai that you didn't know that now that you know,
you like him even more? Well, I didn't know him
at all, you know, so so everything I've I've gotten
to know, it's all been new to me. But my
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probably my favorite thing is he's a he's a tremendous leader,
you know, and I guess I guess you're touched on
it too. You know, when a guy is so quiet
and or his media media portrayal is that he you know,
he never talks or whatever. And then you know you're
you're a weekend of training camp and you see him,
you know, getting in the car going to practice two
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hours early with a with a with a one really
young guy and one real old guy on the team,
you know, and and taking them and say, come on, man,
let's let's go get all come share my workout time
with me. And I want I want to talk to
you guys, and and all of a sudden, you see
those two guide level of play increase. Um. You know,
that's like real leadership, right that nobody asked him to do.
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You know, this is who he is and who he was,
And I would have never guess, I never would have
expected that. You know, I've seen your lineup sometimes you
got uh you got uh delon right out there with
Fred van Vleet and with Kyle Lowry. I like, I
still feel like there's a little bit of mad offensive
scientists in you that you continue to kind of try
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and push and see some things. How do you balance
out the former offensive coordinator in yourself with now you've
got to be the head coach and you can play around,
but you also got to worry about wins and losses
and everything else. Yeah, that's a little it's a little
bit my background. Really, my nature is. I mean, as
you know, I coached the number every little league, minor league,
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the European League, and the Summer League, and you know,
everything there was. I was putting a lot of weird
situations to try to coach quickly, and and even some
of the minor league, especially a real grand we kind
of use that as a as a laboratory for experiments.
And it's kind of just my nature to tinker a little.
I understand the seriousness of the wins and losses, for sure,
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but some of the tinkering, you know, if I hadn't
tried something, I didn't, you know, some of the works.
So a lot of it doesn't right, a lot of
it doesn't. We throw it right in the right in
the garbage can and move on to another something else.
But I do want to do want to continue to
tinker with lineups, combinations, different starting lineups, different second units, um,
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you know, even some coverages defensively. I just I just
want to get us a little broader menu over the
two games, of all the different ways we could come out,
and because I think, I think there's a lot of
different looks in this league. You know, you you see small,
you see really big, not as much really big anymore,
but you know sometimes you do, and then you know,
how can we play against that? And how can we
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play against really small? Can we play against multiple point guards?
Are multiple handlers? And I just I just want us
to be able to re versatile. I guess Nick Nurse
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show twelve and two
is the Raptors record. We won't concentrate on the off
night last night. Instead, we'll pay attention to the long
winning streak that that that preceded that loss as they
get ready to take on the Pistons Wednesday night at home,
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and then of course they travel on the road take
on the Celtics, a team they beat in what felt
like an Eastern Conference Finals preview. Um, I feel like
that game earlier in the year kind of set a
tone for who you wanted to be as a team,
who you were as a head coach. And I know
that there are eighty other eighty one other games, but
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how important are those games against the marquee teams that
we all know will be around once we get to
May and June. Well, it was important for us then,
Dug and you know, for our new team kind of
to show some versatility and that I just talked about, right,
I was. I was. I think it was our second
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game of the year, and I was still in the
throes of alternating Yonis Valantunis and Surge of starting five.
And you know, you you played a lot, you know,
you know that went over and then go over as smoothly.
You know, it never goes over that smoothly removing somebody
out of the starting lineup, right or making them part
time starter or whatever. But you know it was a
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night when they started, you know, al Horford and and
that's a Surgeon match up, you know, it really is.
And and Baines is jvs. And you know when you
played Cleveland it was its Tristan and love as Surges
and you know, so so that was kind of the
whole point going into training camp that we were going
that way to be able to put those guys against
better matchups for them and then ultimately that would help
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our team. So that was a big win on on
that standpoint that that those guys did their jobs against
those two guys and and our team went through some
stress there. We trailed most of the game and took
a lead and then held onto it and won a
close game. But you know, I gets a really really
good team, So there was a big one at that
that particular time, even as you said it was just
one of one of eight. Two all right, A lot
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last thing because I know you gotta go um and
I appreciate your time. You mentioned how many minor leagues
you've coached in you know, you've coached overseas as well.
You have paid your dues to get here. Has it
yet set in when you're standing on the sideline that
you're not only coaching the NBA, you got a team
that could win the whole thing. Uh, not really, Doug,
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And I don't think it's set in it. It doesn't
feel I will say this is I feel, you know,
pretty comfortable out there. I thought maybe it would be
uh seemed like a much bigger deal. And I keep
saying that it seems like a big deal to a
lot of a lot of people. And I get a
lot of texts, and like I said, I get a
thousand people told me I was going to be a
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head coach, and then when I got the job, those
same thousands people were shocked. You know, so so I
don't know, but you also, look, you also represent something too.
I think so many coaches, right, there's so many coaches
are like man, I keep putting in my time, they'll
be a big name player or a guy who's a
you know, a guy who's a former coach that come
out of retirement, or somebody's a broadcast. You're like, look,
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you know, you did all the things checked all the
box that things you're supposed to do, But a lot
of those guys don't get an opportunity. You you finally
paid your dudes get an opportunity. But a lot of
times you get. The first opportunity to get is with
a bad team, right, I mean, look at look at
look at look yeah, I mean, like look at look
at Lloyd in Atlanta, right, Like, look, Lloyd's paid his
dues and he's coaching a young team where they win,
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it's a surprise. Um, you're coaching a team that's really
really good, was good last year, and you're hoping to
make them better and you represent I just wondered if
you've ever looked out his highlighted like, damn, I made it.
This is pretty awesome. Well, I do understand worts, and
I am. We do have a great team and in
this organization and city, you know, we sell out every night.
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There's there's so many like really cool things about having
this job in particular, there's no doubt about it. And
I don't know. I just I guess my job is
just attack it each day and and do my best.
But you know, I and I love the job. There's
no doubt about it. But you know it's something. I
loved it when I was in een At, Oklahoma and McAllen, Texas,
and Austin, Belgium, and you know all those places too,
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and I just tried to get better every year and
again fortunate that it ended up here. And now all right,
I said that was the last one. I lied. What
is the coolest thing so far? What's the coolest thing
you said? You said, there's a lot of cool things
to being head coach of the Toronto Raptors. Give me,
give me something that I wouldn't know right, Like, is
there a restaurant that you always have a table at?
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Are you and you and Drake now on texting terms?
Is there some is there some secret society north of
the border we don't know about? What? What is the
What give me a cool thing about being a head
coach of the Toronto Raptors that those of us civilians
don't know about you? You would know all of them.
All those you mentioned are cool. None of them are true.
I don't. I really like Drake and we say hello
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every time, but I don't have his number and don't
text him. But maybe maybe it'd be a good goal
to have. He hasn't been around either. Goddy, you gotta
get on there, get off that touries on and come
to some games. What's the coolest thing, man? I don't
have one cool thing, Doug, think about it and come
back another time and fair, Hey, you hung around to
come out with all right? Write it down next time
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or text it to me and I'll get it on there.
I appreciate it, especially coming off a loss. A lot
of guys would go into the cave. In the meantime,
going to the lab and cook up some more wins.
Thanks for joining us, Okay, thanks a lot, great to
talk to you. Man Pleasures Mind Nick Nurse truly awesome guy,
really really happy for his success. Bore not anything for
the for the opportunity,
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You know, it's always interesting to me on how on
how we we consume the news and the assumption that
we make that everything is comps. Everything's about comps, comparable, comparable,
comfortable we use. It's it's really more a real estate term, alright,
where you take five to ten comparable houses in terms
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of neighborhood, lot size, square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms, and you
try and compare it. Um. And so, Levian Bell wanted
to reset the running back market. Going back a couple
of years ago, Todd Gurley signed a four year extension
this offseason worth sixty million dollars. Forty five million dollars
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is guaranteed. That's according to multiple reports, and Todd Gurley
has been worth every bit of it. He was gonna
make two He's gonna make to uh two point three
million dollars this year as a last year of his
rookie deal. He'll make eleven point nine million dollars starting
in two thousand twenty UM. Levian Bell was gonna make
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four team and a half million dollars this year. He's
gonna make. He made twelve million dollars last year. And
he has chosen and apparently the Bell has just rung
to not show up to the Steeler's facility and essentially
become an unrestricted free agent at years and this this
is a game of chicken. Neither side essentially blinked. The
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only difference is the Steelers had what is your win
above replacement? That That's what it comes down to. How
much more effective is a team with you as opposed
to with whoever they replace you. That's baseball does that
all the time. James Conner makes five hundred and seventy
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eight thousand dollars five hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars.
So the downside to the Steelers is that, in spite
of the fact they were despite the fact they were
willing to pay Levy on Bell fourteen point five four
four million dollars franchise Tech, they never got to use
him for even one game. That's the downside. The upside
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is his replacement has and I know statistically he's been better.
I told you this portions like Levian Bell staying so
I'm not gonna sit here and crush Levian Bell as
a football player. That would be dumb. That would be dumb.
But in spite of the fact that they don't have uh,
Levian Bell, they've been able to have a really good
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offense and save all of that money. Now they also,
you know, if if he signs the free agent, they
will get a compensatory third round pick, which again is
not at the value of Levian Bell. But I think
this is one of which I would guess Levan ultimately loses.
He know, he loses fourteen a half million dollars that
he'll never see again. I don't believe he'll get the
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big contract. He believes that he deserves. Yes, the Jets
have a ton of money and they do need a
running back, but why would the Jets spend all that
money on a running back? Right? Like? Did they just
show up here? Todd Gurley, fourth pick, Zeki Elliott, fourth pick,
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James Conner the replacement third and rushing Kareem Hunt. Third
round pick Adrian Peterson, who even though Adrian Peterson is
a former m v P, they got Adrian Peterson off
the street late into trading camp. These are the top
rushers in the NFL. Melvin Gordon, he's a first round pick. Uh,
Matt Brita from San Francisco. What round? And Matt bred
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to go in? I want to guess he's from Georgia
Southern he was undrafted. Yes, se Kwon Barkley is really good,
but so is Philip Lindsay. And look at Philip Phillip
Lindsay as a rookie in the numbers he's putting up.
It doesn't mean that the formula is always to go
less expensive, third, fourth round. But I don't really understand
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why somebody who has cap space would go bring in
a levy on Bell in spite of the fact he's
super talented. He hadn't played a year, and he wants
huge money, and he's in his late twenties. And what
we've seen before is the more guys layoff, the more
likely they are they already get hurt. Period. You know,
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I think what Levan Bell the key calculation that he
missed on is this is money that he'll never make back.
And here's where the real estate analogy really works. Some
of you are in this predicament and you're trying to
make a decision. And Ramos, I think knows this buyers
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a homeowner. He knows this music is looking. You know,
he's living with the in laws, living in sin even
though they're not actually his in laws yet, um, but
looking to save up money ultimately when he gets married
to buy a house. A lot of people are in
this predicament. The best time to sell a house is
late spring, because people with families move in the summer.
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You don't wanna you want to pack up and leave
in the middle of a school year. It's just really
as hard as moving is on the kids, it's really
harder and during during school year. So you get to
the fall and now a sudden the weather starts to
turn and if I'm a buyer. Now is a great
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time in most places across the country to go buy.
Once there's snow on the grounds. People do want to
go look at houses. They don't gonna open houses. They
don't want to go like I just I don't want
to walk around on a Saturday and Sunday go into
a bunch of people's houses, you know, dry off my feet,
take off my coat, walk around like now, not buying
this house, and just you don't. It's hard to sell
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a house in the winter. So you've had your house
on the market, and maybe you over listed your house.
I've had this problem before. You have a house that's
worth you know, you think it's you know, my buddy
down the streets sold his for five. I'm gonna sell
mine for five fifty, or at least put on the
market five. Somebody obviously five. It's there's and it sits,
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and it sits, and it sits, and somebody comes in
and low balls you and offers you. Meanwhile, you already
have the house of your dreams that is available in
the town that you want to move to, two towns over,
and you're sitting there saying to yourself, you know, I
could wait until the spring, and maybe I get five
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dred from my house, or maybe I get five fifty
from my house. But I gotta make all these house
payments string now and then, Whereas if I sell the
house now, it's not money that I'm just it's not interested.
I'm just paying out for a house that I don't
ultimately want. It's the same reason that when you win
the lottery, they tell you to take all the money upfront,
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don't take the payments, take all the money up front,
and then you invest the money instead of getting it piecemeal,
which seems like more money because less taxes are individually
taken out of But money is beginning. Is that money
is gonna be less valuable over time because of inflation levy.
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On Bell's calculation of hey, I'm worth sixteen a year,
I'm worth a certain number guaranteed upfront, he may be right.
But even if he is right, even if he hits
that magic number of seventeen million dollars guaranteed per year
salary cap going up, there's several teams that need a
running back, and he's still technically in his prime and
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he can make the sale. I got fresh legs. I
haven't been hit in a year, I haven't taken the
normal beating of a seven year running back. Even if
that's said that's fourteen a half million dollars, he won't
be able to make back. If he makes two million
dollars more than the mark, it doesn't matter. That's fourteen
and a half million dollars. He will never make back.
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And so the calculation is wrong. And my wife, honestly,
I'll give her respect sheet. She told me this several
times over. Like when we sold houses, like you know,
I think if we hold out, we get fifteen dollars more,
we get twenty more. Here we sold a bunch of
different houses. Some we've made money, something we've lost money on.
But generally it's like you know what, with every passing week,
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with every passing month, we're just investing money. Don't know,
host your house, you know what I'm talking about. You know,
even if it's when you're gonna sell, you still we
gotta keep the painting up. We gotta occasionally have a
plumber over. We gotta got this, we gotta have that.
We gotta have a direct TV. And we got a caboy.
Like you just keep putting money into something you're not
ultimately getting that much money back in it's money you
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won't get back. This is money he won't get back.
I won't get it back. I don't feel pity for him.
I just feel like this is a calculated error and
it's a it's a total guy error. This is the
most guy thing in a manly sport like the NFL.
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This is the most manly thing you can do, which
is not a minim mistake. Before the days of GPS,
before the days of punching into your phone or punching
it in, you used to I don't need to ask
for directions. I don't need to ask for directions. I
don't need to stop. I know where I'm going. I
got my own personal GPS. And you just keep driving
around and driving around, your wife or your girlfriend or
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your buddy sitting there going like, hey, dude, you're lost.
Pull over now, man, I'm good. I'm good. I I no, no, no,
that's the street right there. That's not the street. That's
the street right there, that's not that, that's not the street.
In the guys that won't ask for directions, that's Levyan Bell.
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I've been told his agent wanted him to sign way
back in the day one to sign the new deal.
He didn't want to sign him to a fine. Sign
the franchise tag, show up play, you'd make twenty six
and a half million dollars over two years guaranteed with
back to back franchise tag. He didn't do it, and
he still would have gotten a new contract next year.
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So Levan is gonna be made into some sort of martyr.
But the truth is he's the guy that doesn't take
the payout from winning the lottery and thinks he's got
it all set up, he knows exactly what he's doing,
when the fact is he cost himself money that he'll
never make back. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug Dot Leaps Show week days in noon eastern
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three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. In the NBA, last night, the Clippers
took on the Warriors. Warriors don't have Steph Curry, who's
still nursing that pulled adductor muscle. That's like a muscle,
it's basically a growing muscle, not a ligament or tendant.
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But what happened at the end of regulation and what
boiled over in the locker room far more interesting. At
the end of regulation, Andre Goodala is guarding Lou Williams.
Lou Williams goes one on one. Igodala plays perfect defense.
He shoots the ball that barely grazes the front iron.
I think it was tied at one thirteen apiece if
I'm remembering to play correctly. Draymond Green gets the rebound. Now, look,
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Draymond Green is a good ball handler, a good passer.
Kevin ransting right next to him, and he's he's he's
jumping up in the air. He's he's doing the what
my son does to try and get an outlet. Pass
standing in the wrong place. But you know, with the
right spirit in mind, give me the ball, Give me
the ball, give me the ball, and um. Draymond instead
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decides to go one on five. I've dribbles down the court,
tries to split two defenders, and though he had a
couple other Warriors teammates open, the ball got hit, hit
off his knee, stumbles around, and they don't even get
a shot. In the ensuing huddle, Durant and Draymond have words.
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They have to be separated. Draymond is held back and
and the guy who calmed Draymond down. This is some
stuff you don't see every day. Right, is DeMarcus Cousins? Right,
when DeMarcus Cousins is the calming influence in the huddle,
You're like, wait, is this opposite day? Draymond and k
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D go out, The team plays terribly in overtime, the
Clippers win the game. Reported by multiple sources that the uh,
the hurt feelings spawned spilled over in the locker room,
and most of the teammates had the back of Kevin
Durant and we're telling Draymond Green he needs to pass
the ball. Sham Sharania, who works for Stadium, reported that, uh,
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Draymond Green brought up Kevin Durant's pending free agency, and
Sharanio reported that that has been a sore subject within
the team behind closed doors, and only Draymond aired it.
So the more I hear about it, the more I realize.
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I do think that Draymond and KD are friends. I
do think that this stuff does get ironed out. But
I also think that Draymond is that guy that brings
up the elephant in the room in the middle of
an argument that she just takes. Oh, that's why she
left you Like, wait, what, that's why? That's why Gina
left you? Dude, that that ain't right. Don't I'll be
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going there, or you start talking about something like yeah,
well oh I was a sharing stuff. Yeah I I
kissed your sister when we were in I schooling. Whoa
what like he's one of that's that's who Draymond is.
I don't think it's full scale psychological warfare. I just
think he's one of those guys that this is how
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he rolls. This is how he rolls. And while it
why could while it could be super healthy, Hey, let's
just get it out in the air and say it. Yo,
k D, you're gonna leave anyway. Are all these reports
that are being leaked to people about you being interested
in New York? Are those coming from you? That can't?
That can be super super healthy in front of all
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your boys? Oh you know, look, I I do think
there's some health to it. Let's just get it out there.
Why everybody else walks? I'm not walking on eggshells around
Kevin Durant. That's not how we roll. Hey, k D
wants to be Remember Katie's whole thing this year is
I'm gonna be the real me, not me, the real me,
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no more fake key K. I'm gonna be the real me,
all right? If you the real me? Who's the real you?
Are you the real you that's leaking stories to Adrian
Morganowski and all these different people that you're interested in
possibly going to New York and play for the Knicks?
Are you interested in going to play for lebron Lakers?
Are you the which is the real k D? Now? Look,
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part of that is this is kind of how a
lot of times how I roll. I do think there
are a person that are buttons. You can't press with
the wrong guy, and you better know who you're pressing
buttons with, because once it's out there, it's out there.
Once it's out there, it's out there. But that's who,
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That's who. Draymond Green is music. What do you think?
Do you do? Do you think this is un unreasonable
airing of of grievances by by by Draymond or do
you think this is just how their relationship works and
ultimately gets ironed out. It's tough. I would say that
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the only reason it would be unnecessary on the behalf
of Draymond Green is because we have seen Look call
it how it is, Kevin Durant is a little on
the sensitive side, would you agree? So if you know
that about your best player on the team, or some
people may say Steph Curry, you know whatever, we can
argue that on the other side of it. But Kevin
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Durant the best player on your team, if you know
he's sensitive, probably not the best approach in that circumstance.
I also just think that we know, uh Draymond Green
is an emotional person, probably knew that he was the
one who blew it at the end of the game.
But as you mentioned with Levan Bell earlier, doesn't want
to admit that he's in the wrong, So he's trying
to deflect, Oh, I didn't blow it at the end
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of the game? What about you? K do? Are you
even gonna be here next season? So he's trying to
get the the attention off of himself, knowing full well
that he cost them the game against the Clippers. Yeah, look, blamer,
blamer guy. You know you know I have I have
a might have a daughter who's a blame her daughter, right,
she said everything is always somebody else's fault. Somebody else
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did it, somebody else did it wrong, and I don't
know if that's who Draymond is, so we don't know
the context of it. But but the idea that it is,
you know, it is out of bounds, It is unhealthy,
it is we don't know the nature of their relationship.
And while you're right, Katie appears to be super, super
sensitive to criticism, it's different when it's your boys, and
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it's different when you know it may feel bad at
the time, but you get it off your chest. You
get off your chest. Hey man, I don't know why
we're even harving this argument, Like you don't want to
be here. You don't want to be here. We're gonna
be real. You'd be real and tell us what's up.
You come back next year or not. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show weekdays
in noon eastern three pm Pacific. The Raptors have been
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arguably the best team in the NBA to date. Nick Nurse,
their first year head coach, joins us on The Doug
got Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Nick, thanks so
much for taking time. I know it's it's hard coming
off a loss, but you told us you'd do it.
You did. Awesome of you. How do you balance how
you've played the rest of the season with how you
played last night? Uh, well, Doug, it's a good team
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that came in here and chopped the ball really well,
and we didn't We didn't do a lot to stop them. Um,
I don't know, just one of those funny nights where um,
the ball seemed to bounce off the room for us
and bounce on and into the basket for them, and
we couldn't quite made a couple of weight runs back
at him, got it six and a couple different times,
and they just take it right back out and they
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played great. Yeah. I remember I remember listening to Chuck
Daily one time and he was talking about, like the
key to the lasting in this league is there are
nights in which your team just doesn't have it. There
are nights in which your team might not have the
edge at the start, and you can get out of them,
but you have to read your team and something you
just you can't go to the whip every night eight
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because it's eighty two game season plus the playoffs. It's
like a hundred games. Which was last night? Was last
night a night to which you guys just didn't have it?
Or was it a lack of sharpness at the start.
Um we certainly didn't have you know, much of the night, Doug,
and I think, uh, you know, when you're playing really
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well and and uh, we've actually we've been uh fairly
consistent on putting some defensive runs together this season where
where we might just go get eight, nine, ten stops
in a row, and you know, you kind of on
a night like last night, kind of waiting for that
to happen and hoping it's gonna and you have belief
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in your team that is going to happen. You know,
we were certainly making some corrections, trying to change the matchups,
doing a few different coverages, um et cetera, hoping that
thing was going to come, and it just never did
last night. So it was just like, well, we just
didn't quite have the juice in our step last night
to make the defensive fun happened, and we shot a
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lot of open shots that that just that just didn't
the win last night. So, like you said, it's eighty
two games long, it's gonna happen once in a while.
Nick Nurse joining us in the Doug gallaxho of course,
some then nights they'll be nights like when you were
up I don't know, at seventeen or something on the
Lakers without Kauai. So sometimes the bugs, sometimes the windshield. Um,
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you know, when I watch your team, to me, it's
O G. S uh. You know. Between O G and
Pascal Man, I feel like they're probably the least discussed
guys that are game changers for you because they're young,
they can guard multiple positions, and if they show they
can continue to make shots like this, this has to
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change everyone's perspective on your team. What's it been like
to in in addition to trying to integrate Kauai, watch
these two young players blossom. Well, it's been It's been great.
I think I mentioned that lightly late in the summer.
You know, everybody wanted to talk about the few new
guys we had coming and right rightly so right quiet
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and Danny and even Greg Monroe, um, and I kind
of mentioned to few people that I think we're going
to at some point in the season we're talking about
O G and Pascal just because every time I went
to see him this summer, they just looked like they
were improving, you know, just just like it was so
visible they were getting better. And better and better, and
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I was just like, you guys are these guys are
gonna are going to do something this year, and that's
that's going to become a story as well. At some
point I thought I didn't quite expect it to happen
this early, especially with og he missed most of training
camp and has been out some. Uh, he's starting to
come now. But Pascal, obviously he was the Eastern Conference
Player of the Week. He's been playing great. But it's
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it's fun to watch. They put in a lot of work,
They're super attentive. They both got tremendous energy and athleticism. Um,
and I couldn't be happier for for both of them really,
all Right, when when when we heard Kauai laugh to
start the season, um, I think part of the reason,
part of was his laughed and part of it was
we we hear so little from him that there's no
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real we we don't know, Okay, is that who he
really is? Is that? What's he really like? What's something
about Kauai that you didn't know that now that you know,
you like him even more? Well, I didn't know him
at all, you know, so so everything I've I've gotten
to know, it's all been new to me. But my
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probably my favorite thing is he's a he's a tremendous leader,
you know, and I guess I guess you're touched on
it too. You know, when a guy is so quiet
and or his media media portrayal is that he you know,
he never talks or whatever. And then you know you're
you're a weekend of training camp and you see him,
you know, getting in the car going to practice two
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hours early with a with a with a one really
young guy and one real old guy on the team,
you know, and and taking them and say, come on, man,
let's let's go get all come share my workout time
with me. And I want I want to talk to
you guys, and and all of a sudden, you see
those two guide level of play increase. Um. You know,
that's like real leadership, right that nobody asked him to do.
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You know, this is who he is and who he was,
And I would have never guess, I never would have
expected that. You know, I've seen your lineup sometimes you
got uh you got uh delon right out there with
Fred van Vleet and with Kyle Lowry. I like, I
still feel like there's a little bit of mad offensive
scientists in you that you continue to kind of try
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and push and see some things. How do you balance
out the former offensive coordinator in yourself with now you've
got to be the head coach and you can play around,
but you also got to worry about wins and losses
and everything else. Yeah, that's a little it's a little
bit my background. Really, my nature is. I mean, as
you know, I coached the number every little league, minor league,
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the European League, and the Summer League, and you know,
everything there was. I was putting a lot of weird
situations to try to coach quickly, and and even some
of the minor league, especially a real grand we kind
of use that as a as a laboratory for experiments.
And it's kind of just my nature to tinker a little.
I understand the seriousness of the wins and losses, for sure,
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but some of the tinkering, you know, if I hadn't
tried something, I didn't, you know, some of the works.
So a lot of it doesn't right, a lot of
it doesn't. We throw it right in the right in
the garbage can and move on to another something else.
But I do want to do want to continue to
tinker with lineups, combinations, different starting lineups, different second units, um,
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you know, even some coverages defensively. I just I just
want to get us a little broader menu over the
two games, of all the different ways we could come out,
and because I think, I think there's a lot of
different looks in this league. You know, you you see small,
you see really big, not as much really big anymore,
but you know sometimes you do, and then you know,
how can we play against that? And how can we
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play against really small? Can we play against multiple point guards?
Are multiple handlers? And I just I just want us
to be able to re versatile. I guess Nick Nurse
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show twelve and two
is the Raptors record. We won't concentrate on the off
night last night. Instead, we'll pay attention to the long
winning streak that that that preceded that loss as they
get ready to take on the Pistons Wednesday night at home,
(26:29):
and then of course they travel on the road take
on the Celtics, a team they beat in what felt
like an Eastern Conference Finals preview. Um, I feel like
that game earlier in the year kind of set a
tone for who you wanted to be as a team,
who you were as a head coach. And I know
that there are eighty other eighty one other games, but
(26:50):
how important are those games against the marquee teams that
we all know will be around once we get to
May and June. Well, it was important for us then,
Dug and you know, for our new team kind of
to show some versatility and that I just talked about, right,
I was. I was. I think it was our second
(27:10):
game of the year, and I was still in the
throes of alternating Yonis Valantunis and Surge of starting five.
And you know, you you played a lot, you know,
you know that went over and then go over as smoothly.
You know, it never goes over that smoothly removing somebody
out of the starting lineup, right or making them part
time starter or whatever. But you know it was a
(27:32):
night when they started, you know, al Horford and and
that's a Surgeon match up, you know, it really is.
And and Baines is jvs. And you know when you
played Cleveland it was its Tristan and love as Surges
and you know, so so that was kind of the
whole point going into training camp that we were going
that way to be able to put those guys against
better matchups for them and then ultimately that would help
(27:54):
our team. So that was a big win on on
that standpoint that that those guys did their jobs against
those two guys and and our team went through some
stress there. We trailed most of the game and took
a lead and then held onto it and won a
close game. But you know, I gets a really really
good team, So there was a big one at that
that particular time, even as you said it was just
one of one of eight. Two all right, A lot
(28:16):
last thing because I know you gotta go um and
I appreciate your time. You mentioned how many minor leagues
you've coached in you know, you've coached overseas as well.
You have paid your dues to get here. Has it
yet set in when you're standing on the sideline that
you're not only coaching the NBA, you got a team
that could win the whole thing. Uh, not really, Doug,
(28:40):
And I don't think it's set in it. It doesn't
feel I will say this is I feel, you know,
pretty comfortable out there. I thought maybe it would be
uh seemed like a much bigger deal. And I keep
saying that it seems like a big deal to a
lot of a lot of people. And I get a
lot of texts, and like I said, I get a
thousand people told me I was going to be a
(29:00):
head coach, and then when I got the job, those
same thousands people were shocked. You know, so so I
don't know, but you also, look, you also represent something too.
I think so many coaches, right, there's so many coaches
are like man, I keep putting in my time, they'll
be a big name player or a guy who's a
you know, a guy who's a former coach that come
out of retirement, or somebody's a broadcast. You're like, look,
(29:22):
you know, you did all the things checked all the
box that things you're supposed to do, But a lot
of those guys don't get an opportunity. You you finally
paid your dudes get an opportunity. But a lot of
times you get. The first opportunity to get is with
a bad team, right, I mean, look at look at
look at look yeah, I mean, like look at look
at Lloyd in Atlanta, right, Like, look, Lloyd's paid his
dues and he's coaching a young team where they win,
(29:44):
it's a surprise. Um, you're coaching a team that's really
really good, was good last year, and you're hoping to
make them better and you represent I just wondered if
you've ever looked out his highlighted like, damn, I made it.
This is pretty awesome. Well, I do understand worts, and
I am. We do have a great team and in
this organization and city, you know, we sell out every night.
(30:05):
There's there's so many like really cool things about having
this job in particular, there's no doubt about it. And
I don't know. I just I guess my job is
just attack it each day and and do my best.
But you know, I and I love the job. There's
no doubt about it. But you know it's something. I
loved it when I was in een At, Oklahoma and McAllen, Texas,
and Austin, Belgium, and you know all those places too,
(30:28):
and I just tried to get better every year and
again fortunate that it ended up here. And now all right,
I said that was the last one. I lied. What
is the coolest thing so far? What's the coolest thing
you said? You said, there's a lot of cool things
to being head coach of the Toronto Raptors. Give me,
give me something that I wouldn't know right, Like, is
there a restaurant that you always have a table at?
(30:48):
Are you and you and Drake now on texting terms?
Is there some is there some secret society north of
the border we don't know about? What? What is the
What give me a cool thing about being a head
coach of the Toronto Raptors that those of us civilians
don't know about you? You would know all of them.
All those you mentioned are cool. None of them are true.
I don't. I really like Drake and we say hello
(31:10):
every time, but I don't have his number and don't
text him. But maybe maybe it'd be a good goal
to have. He hasn't been around either. Goddy, you gotta
get on there, get off that touries on and come
to some games. What's the coolest thing, man? I don't
have one cool thing, Doug, think about it and come
back another time and fair, Hey, you hung around to
come out with all right? Write it down next time
(31:32):
or text it to me and I'll get it on there.
I appreciate it, especially coming off a loss. A lot
of guys would go into the cave. In the meantime,
going to the lab and cook up some more wins.
Thanks for joining us, Okay, thanks a lot, great to
talk to you. Man Pleasures Mind Nick Nurse truly awesome guy,
really really happy for his success. Bore not anything for
the for the opportunity,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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