Chiefs-Rams Shootout: This is What People Want & Chris Harris Jr

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America.
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Comment to you from
the brisk city of Kansas City, Kansas. Actually on the
Kansas side. It's very confusing to a child, daddy, where

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you're going? Kansas City? Is that in Kansas? Some of it?
What do you mean? Some of it's in Kansas, some
of it's in Missouri. Well, why don't they call the
Missouri part Missouri City. I don't know. I don't know,
I don't know. Stuck Gollip Show here, Fox Sports Radio. Um,
if you're just joining us this week, I'm getting a

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chance to actually call basketball games in the Caymans from
a dungeon somewhere in Kansas City. Also got a chance
to watch a college basketball game USC and Texas Tech,
and I got a chance to watch last night's Monday
night football game. Don't you get to a second, But
being in Kansas City during last night's Monday night football

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game was really telling, really interesting. Um One, if you
haven't been in Kansas City, it is a not a
good is a great sports town. Great Royals have always
drawn relatively well, considering they went twenty years without being relevant.

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The Chiefs have always had great home field advantage. Sporting
casey does well, and of course you got KU football,
which is less than an hour away. KU basketball does
a lot better. In general and sports radio, it's considered
the second or third best regional sports market in terms

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of per capita number of sports listeners, only in the
Boston in the country. Pretty amazing. And I'm telling you
last night the the town was relatively shut down. Now,
there's a couple of different areas where people go out.
Westport is one. The other is the Power and Light District,

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which is an indoor kind of outdoor in downtown. Not
a ton going on last night. This is the true story.
So I get done calling the basketball game. I watched
the first half of the football game, and then I
I'm I'm watching the second half of the basketball game.
And when he gots done. I'm walking from the Sprint

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Center to my hotel. It's like five blocks and I'm
telling you, with every big plays I'm watching on my phone,
I can hear and I know it's the power and
light district, but people were outside, like degrees outside. You
can hear audible screams and yells. The last night was
a night, and obviously being in Kansas City and my

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home being in Los Angeles, maybe I'm a little bit
too close to the forest to see the trees. But
it felt like anyone who I really care about was
watching sports on TV. Right. Maybe you had something sports
with your kids, but for the most part, if you're home,
you had There was Hoop on TV, which is always good,
but most of you watch Monday night football. Without looking,

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I would guess fifty of the homes in Kansas City
or watching that game and what they saw they liked.
Even Chiefs fans are not They're not They're not saddened today.
They may not be emboldened. They may understand that, uh,
there's some things that they gotta work on. Their young

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quarterback has not turned the football over, but they had
plenty of opportunities to win that football game plenty, but
more than anything, it's fun. Right, It's fun. Even the
victims of these terrible wildfires in thousand Oaks for those

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four hours? Did you care about anything else? Now that's
the the incredible power of sport. And if I'm Roger Goodell,
I'm kicking at my feet and anyone including Jerry Jones,
who questioned whether or not I should make forty million
dollars or fifty million dollars or whatever. I'm not saying

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the NFL's problems are fixed, but the solution this is
like turning to the back of the book where it
has the answers to the problem. The solution was on
display last night. Team struggling in Los Angeles. Not really
give us a good product, a big game to show

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up and watch. The NFL's ratings were down. You know what,
just play fun football. The war on football guy, everybody
hates our sport. No, we don't hate your sport. We're
just trying to make it safer, better and more offensive minded.

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The NBA did this years ago. Look at how much
more watchable it is. The NFL is is king of
the sports world, and so you can sit here and
tell me no matter what you do with the NBA.
It's not the NFL, of course not. There's eighty two
games is supposed to sixteen games. The NFL is a
better TV spectator sports, much harder for guys to take
plays off as supposed to the NBA. The adage in

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businesses the customer is always right, and the customer has spoken?
Did you watch last night? Did you like what you're
watching last night? It? I don't know if it's the
best regular season game I've ever seen. It doesn't even matter.
I had fun. I had fun. It was so good

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and so watchable and so thrilling that today I don't
think anybody's pointing out that Sean McVeigh completely screwed up
on that last possession. It was so good and so
fun and so watchable that no one seems to have
point out, you know, as good as Pat Mahomes is
kind of struggle a little bit against zone and had

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a fumble which not totally his fault, but ball security
is his job. And the last pick, what are you doing?
What are you doing? It was so good that anything
else you were thinking about, you were daydreaming about, you
wondered about, you didn't Oh, hey, remember games are too long?

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How long was that game? Music? Did you look up
how long start to finish? That game actually was three
hours and forty two minutes? As a lot, a lot. No,
who wants to invest three hours and forty two minutes?
I did base But remember, baseball's too long. It's just
too long. Who's got three hours to watch baseball? No? No,

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baseball is not too long. Baseball is too boring when
it's actually being played. That's all. Find a way to
make more action and we'll watch. Find a way to
make more offense and we'll watch. And that's all the
NFL has done. And Jarkov said it after the game, right,
Jarkof said, man felt like cal versus Texas Tech. Calverson

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Texas Tech. Wait, I thought big twelve pack tell foot
football is a joke. No, it's awesome. It might not
be the best football, but it's the most watchable football.
Please stop with the revs ruined it. They did what
officials always do in big games. They call it super

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tight early, and they try and call it super loosely,
and at the end of the day you end up
having over a hundred points scored. Like you you're you're
when you talk about this game. You're not going to
talk about the flag in the second quarter. You're not
gonna talk about any of the rulings from Really in

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the season, the NFL figured it out. They understand what
the customer wants. They look to the back of the
book and they're like, Oh, you want scoring, you want
spread offense, you want young quarterbacks back there slinging it.
We gotta protect the quarterback at all costs. They've done
that with the rules. We got to promote offense with

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our rule change, especially throwing the football. They've done that.
We want to create an atmosphere that continues to make
the game more thrilling, more energetic, keeps it moving faster.
The brakes aren't as long, with some exception. The reviews
were on point, and that was damn fun football. I've

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never been a Rams fan ever. The Rams when I
grew up, We're playing ten minutes from my house in
the same stadium my favorite baseball team occupied and I
was just never all that into him. And even now
I can't fake it and tell you that I'm a
Rams fan, But damn was that fun to watch him,
even in those god awful color Rush uniforms. Those are

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bad they're bad. And then they're bad because their normal
uniforms either said traditional blue and yellow or the white ones,
the old school throwback l A RAM white uniforms. Those
are great unis and you don't have to doll him up.
But like, listen, this is the football that's here to stay.

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It's what what the NFL wants. But because what the
what what the consumer wants? I didn't like. I'll give
you an example. I didn't like Notre dames uniforms over
the weekend. Notre Dame has incredible uniforms with the gold helmets.
The gold helmets have gold animal sure you've heard that.
That's like Ryan Fitzpatrick's from Harvard. And the gold helmets

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are a mirror of the Golden Dome, which is where
the president of Notre Dame has his office. It's a symbol,
it's symbolic of the university they represent. I would never
have my team at Notre Dame put on any helmet
that wasn't gold. That said, the reason Notre Dame is
doing it is the reason it's here to stay. That's
what the consumer wants, whether it's the old man buying

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a jersey or the kid who wants to go play there.
Sure there's some misses like Notre Dame wearing those pinstriped
pants and those awful helmets, even though they look great
against Syracuse. But for the most part, it's a read
and understand your consumer and find a way to engage
them and keep them engaged by understanding their needs and

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desires and fulfilling them. That's how the NFL did. We
want offense. We want fast paced, we want you to
throw it more than run it. We want high scoring.
We'd love some glam shots and some big name fans
like jay Z and attendance. We want crowds that are
into it, and we want games that come down to

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He covers Chargers Game Chargers Radio for a living. By
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in your way up from San Diego if you let's
you stay up to the night well or caravan caravan
to Carson together. Um, all right, I'm just gonna say
last night and you just give me your stream of
conscious go. Yeah. No, Look, it was entertaining. It was
as entertaining of football game as I can remember seeing. UM,
I think whatever changes took place from the Super Bowl

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in terms of the long term UH impact of that
Super Bowl last year, the shootout between the Patriots and
the Eagles, I think it was kind of this was
the exclamation point to that. As the NFL continues to change. UM.
I thought this kind of just reinforced it. And I
always look at everything in a game like that through
a personnel perspective, and how does this impact what goes

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on in the off season with the draft and free agency,
And it is a it is a load up on
on offensive weapons, and it is you better find as
many pastors as you can get because the rules the
way they are, you're not going to be able to
cover these guys, so you better have people that can
get after the quarterback. UM. I think though that they're

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also My feeling is, hey, look at how much look
at look at America's reaction to that game. And while
old school football guy may be saying, you know, Vince
Lombardi's rolling over in his grave, they're just giving the
customer what they want. And what we got was a big,
twelve caliber, highly entertaining product with two young quarterbacks spinning

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it to a lot of talented players, and maybe the
difference is the investment in the defensive line for you know,
for the rams that ended up being the difference in
the game, no question. I mean, I can give you
a little scene set here because you know, I'm sure
your situation to the kid. The kids are all off
this week, um and so it's kind of like the
start of rocation. One of the things we like to
do at our house and we play a lot of

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card games. Um, so we're playing some cards and uh
so my wife and all the kids are sitting there
the games on, and my wife's not a big she's
not a big football fan. She's just not And and
she's like, this is the most entertaining thing I've ever seen.
And I'm sitting here and going like, yeah, this is
the average fan. This If you want to if you
want to make the tent larger, if you want to
grow the fan base, games like that will do it.

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Dania Jeremiah joining us on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Am I going to be the only
one that points out Sean McVeigh completely butchered that last drive?
You know, I mean, look, look, they got the other
the opposition has three time outs. Okay, so on first
down you want to try and trick him. And I

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don't know how Josh Reynolds was declared inbounds as they
wound the clock, because he clearly was out of bounds.
But okay, you get away with it. Then you do
it again on second down and the ball gets battered down.
Now you have you have two choices, and him in
neither of these choices. Choice one is, hell with it.
Let's just run a true passing play and try and

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get the first down, or let's make him burn a
time out by running the football. Instead, he runs a little,
you know, quick screen pass out into the flat, which
is a by sickly a running play but you know,
but doesn't has has no chance of getting a first down. Okay,
I'll be ancious to see when you get some time, Doug,
go back and watch the postgame interview in the locker

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room with Todd Gurley and tell me if you don't
sense that he was a little bit frustrated. Um, even
though they won that football game, I think probably overall
lack of touches, and I would guess probably at the
end of the game. You know, when you give the
ball to a guy like that and an offensive line
like that, that's kind of their that's pride for those
guys who ahead and close out the game, and they
didn't get the opportunity to do that. Now, Fortunately my

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Homes throw one up in the air and they're able
to get out of there with the win. But yeah,
just go when you get a chance, go watch that interview.
I will Dana Jeremiah joining us in the Doug Gotlive
show Fox Sports. Ready, you mentioned Pat Mahomes throwing one
up in the air. Um, look, I get how spectacular
his arm talent is and how he seems to really

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fit all of the different dudes that they put out
in front of him, But that that was basically what
I would watch for the Texas Tech game, which is
he made spectacular throws a Texa attack. On the other hand,
he took chances he didn't have to take, didn't always
have the greatest ball security, And I think that's kind
of my fear is he's the polar opposite of Alex Smith,

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who wouldn't take chances but wouldn't make mistakes. Yeah, I
think that obviously we can everybody that will tell you
how much higher his ceiling is when he's at his
best versus Alex Smith. But I think everybody else would
also have to admit that Alex Smith's floor is a
lot higher uh than Mahomes. And I'm talking about a
game to game basis, um. So that's something that's gonna

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be challenging when you get into the postseason. Possessions are priceless.
You can't afford to turn the ball over. You turn
over five times, now you can. You can go glass
half full and talk about six touchdowns and all the
wild plays, um. But man, it's it's gonna be tough
for them if they if you turn the ball over
like that to get through a stretch in the postseason
that you need to get through. So I definitely think

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Andy Raid deserves credit for raining him in for the
most part, because when I watched him at Tech, I
wrote down on my paper screens and scrambles. I mean
that was what it was. It was just screens and
scrambles and you know, wow, what plays? You know, one
plays a while the next place of what And he's
done a pretty good job of reining that in. But
we've seen now a couple of times. I guess I
think it was early in the in the New England game,

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and now you see it in this one that the
turnover has got him. Okay, So who's the team more
likely to be in Super Bowl between those two? I'll
say the Chiefs. Uh even having said what we just said,
just because as long as the road in the NFC
goes indoors through New Orleans, I don't see anybody beating
that team. What what is it about New Orleans that's

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allowed them to their defensive backfield, especially one side of it.
I mean, Eli Apple hasn't impressed anybody in the NFL,
but he's actually an upgrade over what they had there previously.
They're still searching for, you know, a second wide receiver.
How have they been able to do this considering those
two weaknesses. Well, they're getting better. They're getting better, and

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they're getting some pressure. They're getting some push up front
with their with their front, so that's gonna that's gonna
make anybody in the back end look a little bit better.
But the other thing is, man, when when you can
dedicate bodies to coverage because you always constantly have the
other team in a chase mode where you don't have
to worry about them running the football. Um, it makes
it a little bit easier on your coverage team. So uh,

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you know. The interesting the thing with them is hopefully
they end up getting Marcus Davenport back, who was really
starting to come on. Uh, they get another guy up front,
then again that their their whole answer should be just
let's just rush for um and we can devote more bodies.
If you don't like the bodies you have in coverage,
you can devote more bodies coverage. And that's what they'll do.
But I mean, look, they're about their offense and I

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just don't think you know, we talk about their defense
playing better, it's not even really gonna matter if Drew
Brees stays in the zone he's in right now and
he gets to be indoors. Uh. I mean they just
good luck. I don't know how you slow that group down. Um. Okay,
So here's what I've come to learn and watch the NFL.
Feels like there's there's three different styles. Okay, that that

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and and let's take the Patriots maybe out of it,
because they'll do whatever it takes to just win every
individual game. But there's one style, which is the same style,
which is massive personnel groupings, right, all different sorts of
personnel groupings, and based upon those groupings, they're trying to
find the one key mismatch with the defenses personnel group
is the defenses matchup. Then you have the Rams, who

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basically come out in the same formation every time, and
they run a bunch of different variations of the exact
same look. Everything looks exactly the same. Everything looks exactly
the same, only you know, until the ball is snapped, obviously,
and then you have the Chiefs and the Bears and
where you have a lot of prestap movement, you know,

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a lot of slight of hand. But it's really not
complex once the ball is snapped. It's just a way
of making it all kind of look different even though
it's all the same. If you're starting NFL team, and
granted don't start anything from scratch, what do you think
the most effective Well, I go back to, uh, I
think we might even have talked about this last week.
But with all the Chiefs and you you talk about

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the different personnel groupings and the eye candy and the
zone reads and the r P O s, I keep
coming back to the same thing. I've seen some of
the most uh, consistently explosive offenses in the NFL be
able to to run that Shanahan and we see it
with McVeigh um. That whole tree of offense the heads
its roots in the West Coast where everything looks the same.

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Your run zone, UM, you run inside zone, you run
outside zone, you play action off that zone. UM. And
that's something that's an offense that you've seen some of
the better offense NFL over decades. I'm not talking about
a fad this year, the last year, the last decade.
I'm talking to go back thirty years. I've seen that
formula work. So if I was going to start a

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start a group and and try and put together a
you know, the personnelity and the offense that you want
to run, that's the one I'm going with. Let's let's
discuss the Chargers, the team that you call their games
for a living. Uh. That felt like one where they
got some penalties Philip rivers with a terrible decision down
the stretch. You may to call bad decisions throughout the game.

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Here's a team with all the talent in the world.
They get Joey Bosa back and yet they lose at
home to the Broncos. How troubling is it? Yeah, it's one.
I mean when you look at the schedule and you
look at road games coming up at Pittsburgh in a
prontime game, at Kansas City in a short week, in
a primetime game, you gotta go face this Broncos team

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at the end of the year on the road, which
is a tough place to play. Man, you can't afford
to give one away. And when you have fourteen penalties,
you turned the ball over twice, you've got a chance
up nineteen to seven to just close the door. And
you get not only an interception down there, but an
interception and return inside the uh and all of a sudden,
you've got a ballgame. Um. And then you mentioned the

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end of the game scenario where Philip Rivers just kind
of had a little bit of a brain freeze there
instead of take and stack and running forty seconds off
the clock, runs two seconds off the clock. Once he
got you know, saw von Miller jump out there again
on the screen, and natural instinct would just to dirt
the ball. So just so many, so many many many mistakes, um.
And that being said, there they still had the game

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in their hand and they couldn't tackle, so you give
up the drive at the end of the game. But
you know, sixteen games, Doug, it's you're gonna have a
game like this, you're gonna give one away and uh
and that that. Hopefully, if you're a Charger fan, you
hope they got out of their system and they get
right back on the crack Um. Okay, I'm watching the
Carolina Panthers, who are a better team than Detroit Lions.

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The Lions lose carry on Johnson, they're running back and
yet so so they could go to overtime, they simply
kick an extra point one Gono had missed an extra
point to be fair, but they go for two. They
don't get it. They lose the game, and somehow nobody
seems to care, Like, look, I get that, we want

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you know, we were tired of the prevent defense. Hell
Condoleeza Rice, even when she said she wasn't interested in
the Brown's job, did say she ever got a job.
She ain't run the Prevent defense. Right. But but this
idea that going for always it's it goes to the
McVeigh thing to like this idea of always going for
it it's just being aggressive is better, Like no kick,

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you're the better team. Detroit had I think was what
like thirteen first downs eleven we're running the football, and
the running back got heard like this is you the
better the team, the more you want football to be played,
because you're more likely to win the game. Help me
out with how we got to this place where it's
go for it and nobody asked, nobody asks a question,

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whereas playing it's smart and sometimes conservatively and you're the
worst person on earth. Sure, well, let's let's go a
couple of different things here. First of all, UM, the
phrase it's a cliche, but it's accurate is copycat league.
Last year the Philadelphi Eagles, you know when that Super
Bowl playing ultra aggressive, UM, going for it multiple times,
you know, Philly special the whole nine yards and so

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you saw that aggressiveness, in some case over aggressiveness rewarded. UM.
So that was kind of that's what teams had to
sit and think about the whole offseason. Okay, that's team
just one. The whole thing. They've been ultra aggressive. Let's
the ultra aggressive. I think there's something to that. UM.
I think also, you know on that one. I guess
the analytics were kind of I've heard mixed results on

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what you should have done according to the analytics, but
there's a little bit of that uh involved in it.
My my issue was not that they went for it.
My issue is I was trying to go back through
my brain and I've seen every game Cam Newton's played
in college. Now, I haven't studied every NFL game that
he's played, but I sure have studied a lot of them.
And I'm trying to find the time when they had
a short hearad situation and they wanted to run quarterback

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power at six ft five and two fifty five pounds,
I'm trying to remember the last time somebody stopped Cam Newton.
So I don't necessarily have a problem with them going
for it there. I just don't know if the pure
dropback play is isn't one I would called it's it's
it's stunning, it really is. I mean, I I call
on the Innnapolis Colts, who as well as they've played,

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think of the tie that they gave away against the
Houston Texans. We dismissed it and said, no, they're gonna
win four games. Who cared? I actually didn't to be fair.
To be fair, I actually didn't dismiss it. I thought
said was stupid, you know, and I mean just it
was just dumb and people like, well, you know he's aggressive.
He went for they're not gonna win like you said,
they're gonna win four games. Um is Andrew Luck back

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in the discussion. Is one of the two one of
the best quarterbacks in the league. Man, is he good?
I mean he just kind of it's all coming back
to you now you're like, oh, that's the guy that
we all talked about, hyped up and uh and believed in.
I was talking to an executive. I'm another team actually
in the NFC, so they wouldn't really have to worry
about it. But he was saying, you know, if the uh,

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if I was in the a f C, I don't
want any part of that guy in the postseason. As
hot as he can get and as good as he's playing,
I don't care what they have around him. I wouldn't
want to see him. M hmm, DJ, great stuff. Look
forward to seeing you this Sunday and UH always love
you work on on Move the Sticks. Thanks for joining
us on Fox Sports Radio. You're the best buddy. All right,

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Sunday against the Colts after missing five games with a
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night football game since October of a very good rating
but still lower than expected. In the NBA, the Cleveland
Cavaliers announced today that j R. Smith will no longer

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be with the team, as work with him and his
representation regarding his future at The Cavaliers issued a statement saying, quote,
the organization wishes Jr. And his family well and appreciates
and thanks him for his contributions in the community, to
the team and his role in the twenty sixteen NBA
Championship unquote. No word yet on whether the Golden State

(29:20):
Warriors planned to issue a statement thanking Smith for his
contributions to their eighteen NBA Championship and baseball Adrian beltre
Ad outs his retirement today after twenty one seasons and
three thousand, one hundred sixty six hits him finally in
the NHL, and don't touch him on the head, right
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(30:04):
limits music. I need you, I need you here trying
you're trying to sell me on something that I'm going
to tell you why I don't believe it. In a second.
Let's you believe that we're missing one key team, one
key team who could be a player this season in
the playoffs in the a C correct a very legitimate

(30:28):
Super Bowl contender that I think is being overlooked. Hmm. Okay,
tell me the Steelers, because if you look at the
history of teams that go on to at least participate
in the Super Bowl and then even go on to
win the Super Bowl, they are teams that are in
the top ten and sometimes even the top five of

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both offensive points per game and defensive points per game.
And the three current teams in the NFL who fit
that model are the Steelers, who are fourth in offense
and points per game tenth and defensive points per game,
the Bears, and the Chargers. Now I'm not buying the
Bears because I don't think that Mr Drobiski at this
point is ready to be a legitimate quarterback to lead

(31:09):
a team deep into the playoffs. Um, the Chargers, I
would say, are close, but I'm just skittish after that
Broncos fall apart. And so when you look at some
of these other teams like the Saints, the Rams, the Chiefs,
I think we get caught up in the moment with
how great their offensive offenses are and we don't take
into account how much their defenses may end up holding

(31:32):
them back in the playoffs. Um, there's one thing that's
missing with all the stats and all the analytics and
and there were actually two things. I feel like James
Connor's hitting the wall. I just I feel like it's
not and and I don't know if it's a ceiling
or Look, they used him a lot, and uh, I

(31:52):
you know, I don't know if his production is going
to be what it has been previously because he's been
used so much, because I didn't think they thought they
were getting Levian Bell at some point this season they
were like, you know, we we'll worry about next week.
Next week, we'll get Levian Bell. Let's just use him.
He's been used a lot. And then here's the other thing.
What if Ben Roethlisberger is not that good anymore? Right,

(32:17):
You're like, oh, well, um, you know they got Ben Roethlisberger.
He's won two Super Bowls, Like, yeah, well, Ben Roethlisberger
now is not Ben Roethlisberger at all. Previously he's not
the same quarterback now. He did have that kind of
heroic dive into the end zone to win them in
the game at Jacksonville, but the only reason they were
in that position was because Ben Roethlisberger was so bad
earlier in the game, like he's just not that good.

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So that that's I don't think anybody's forgetting about the Steelers.
They're gonna run away and hide in that division. And
then you look around and you say, well, the Patriots
don't scare you with their personnel, and you say, the
Chargers have never been there. We'll see if they get
Hunter Henry back. He the Chiefs have no defense. Maybe

(33:02):
the Colts end up being that that second wild card team.
But sometimes we look at guys and we're like, oh, well,
it's Ben Roethlisberger, and like Ben Roethlisberger has not been
men Roethlisberger. It's fair to not believe in the Chiefs
because ay Reid's teams have come up so short so
many times before, like Marty Schottenhimber's teams came up so

(33:24):
many times before. But I it's also fair to point
out that Father Time is undefeated, and it seems he
seems to be catching up in the score column with
Big Ben. All right, come up next, what are the
chances j R. Smith and Lebron James reunite in l
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Leave Show, Fox Sports Radio. Man, I hope you're having
a great day. I know I am risk and cold

(34:08):
here in Kansas City. They're not as down after that
loss last night. With great football game. Let's let's get
to Isaac lowan crime with the game side wat watch
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(34:30):
noon Pacific. What do you got, Isaac? Alright, let's see
what we got today, Doug. What are the chances? Doug?
It looks like j R. Smith's time in Cleveland is over.
Outspoken this season about wanting to be traded and not
wanting to be a part of their rebuild. They've parted
ways while they work out a trade and released a
statement confirming as much. So, what are the chances see here? Oh? Please? Please? Please?

(34:59):
Why to the chances Smith reunites with Lebron and joins
the Lakers? Please, Doug, please, I'm going to say, under
his current contract, one percent, one one percent chance? Remember

(35:19):
he said to make uh what is it, fourteen point
seven million dollars, seven million dollars, and then um, next
year he said to make fifteen point six million dollars.
I just that's too much to the cap hit for
a guy that would not be part of the long
term plans of Lakers. My heart says one thing, your

(35:41):
brain says another. I'm gonna go with your brain. Last season,
number one overall pick Marquelle Faults missed a significant amount
of time for the seventy sixers due to a shoulder injury.
It appears that injury has returned. His agent, Raymond Brothers,
I think I once got a suit at Raymond Brothers,
announced that Faults will be missing to time once again
to see a specialist every time in the airport. I think, man,

(36:03):
that Raven Brothers, that looks like a good place to
go pick up a suit. Yeah. I like their I
like their incoming fall styles. Interesting to note seventy gm.
Elton Brand responded, quote, there's nothing we saw medically that
didn't allow him to play. He played last night, he
played two days ago. Unquote. What are the chances Foltses

(36:23):
issues are in fact physical and not mental. I'm gonna
say ten percent chance it's physical not mental. I think, look,
there's a there's a chance there's something there that occasionally
catches in the shoulder and makes him think. But this
feels like a mental deal. I mean, he's he's juggling
the basketball while shooting a free throw. I've never seen

(36:45):
anything like it. As I make a mental note to
research that trade machine and see if the salaries for
fouls and j R. Smith matchup in the NFL. We
know Lamar Jackson won his first NFL start over the weekend.
The Ravens are five and five on the season, very
much in the playoff hunts, So, Doug, what are the
chances Lamar Jackson starts the rest of the Sea season

(37:06):
for the Ravens. Probably about a nine chance chance he
starts the rest of the season first round pick the
last go round for that general managers selected him. I
think he gives him energy. Um, I just kind of
think they're done with Laco, and do I think it's

(37:26):
it's sustainable long term? No, But Tim Tebow took his
team to the playoffs. You saw Vince Young win a
bunch of games his rookie year. We've seen this before.
Running a different style, especially when teams don't have a
ton of time to prepare for, you can be effective.
And I do think that you know, they'll hit some
big plays. Now he can throw the ball downfield. His
issue is going to be once kind of people figure

(37:47):
out their offense, figure out his tendencies, they hit him
a little bit. But in the short term, I think
it's eight percent chance he starts every game the rest
of the year. Elsewhere in the conference. After the starting
the season oh and three, the Houston Texans of now
one seven in a row and said, in first place
in the a f C South, what are the chances
the Texans hold on to win the a f C South.

(38:09):
Mm hmmm. Uh. I look at the Texans and I
look at their schedule. A lot of it is scheduled dependent,
and they've been They've been able to survive right, they survived. Indeed,
they survived the Redskins. You know that they've had a
lot of survival games more than games in which they've
played great. On the other hand, you get to a
point where you've won was it uh seven row? Yet

(38:31):
the Titans, Necks and the Browns and the Colts, to
the Jets, to the Eagles to the Jaguars. That's a
that's a schedule that will hunt. They're gonna win eleven games.
I'd say chance they win that division and finally from
the a f C North to the South to the
West slash worst. You said on the show, the Raiders

(38:53):
are taking this season. Unfortunately for them, they went out
and won against the Cardinals, so that dropped them behind
the forty Niners for the top draft position. In what
are the chances the Raiders end up with the number
one overall pick? All right? So the Raiders remaining schedule, Yeah,
they beat the Arizona Cardinals, who also seem to be

(39:15):
whether they're tanking or just going young. Go to the Ravens.
They'll lose that. This weekend Chiefs at home, Steelers at
the Bengals, Broncos at home at the Chiefs. I mean
we're talking one maybe two more wins, right, they got
two on the season. Let's say they win one. That's
a that's a three win season. I would think that's
gonna be enough, don't you. I mean, uh, San Francisco

(39:37):
forty Niners also have two wins on the season. They
go to the Buccaneers, to the Seahawks. They also get
they get the Broncos, Seahawks Bears at home. Remember when
they the Bears at home. That thing might will be
decided in the NFC NFC North. They get the Rams
on the road, and again the Rams will probably have
home field home field by maybe playing for home field throughout. UM.

(39:58):
I think it's about a six percent shot that the
rant that the Raiders will have the first pick in
the draft. They had the same number wins, same number
of losses. UM. It simply comes down to UM. I mean,
I don't know what what why? I don't understand why
they is it because the divisional wins, because the the
Niners beat him in head to head and they have
the same or wins. This is game time, Isaac. Do

(40:26):
you know that the answer to that question, you know,
I can look it up. I actually on the NFL's
internal website. They hopefully will have guidelines for draft tiebreakers,
so I'll look it up and uh and pass word along. Okay,
I appreciate your passing word along, Ramos. How enjoyable was
last night's game extremely enjoyable? Was it only enjoyable because

(40:46):
they won? Or did you actually I was having a
good time. I was. I mean it was more enjoyable
because the round was one. But it was a fun,
fun game. I really enjoyed. I'm glad I stayed home
to watch the whole thing because we had a softball
game last night but it got canceled the last it.
I'm like, okay, time to watch the rat because I
had it recorded on the DVR. Now, are you a
don't tell me? Don't anybody tell don't anybody say anything

(41:08):
about anything sort of guy. I would have been had
I been at the softball game, but because I was home,
obviously not so. But yeah, I am one of those guys.
Don't tell me. I'll watch the whole game when I
get home. I hated the Rams uniforms of this time.
Why don't they that I like the tops? Why don't
they wear the white? It's too much yellow? I think
maybe that's what it is. Yeah, they look like they

(41:29):
look like something from that batm Batman. Was that with
with with Baine when he when he blows up the
Steelers stadium. Yeah, that's that's what they look like. Hey,
real quick, guys. The tiebreakers and the draft are actually
decided by strength of schedule. That's the first tiebreaker that's
surprising to me. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
One team beat the other team. They have the same record,

(41:50):
yet that same team seen him his inferior last night
was an incredible game, so entertaining, somebody almost blew it.
We'll tell you who next in the Dug Gottlieb Show.
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(42:12):
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Coming to you from Balmy Degree,
Kansas City, Kansas or Missouri. Still confused over which part
of men? I think I'm in Kansas, but I don't
really know. Oh man, man, I hope you're having a
great day, right, I mean, even if you're in Kansas

(42:34):
City and you're a Chiefs fan, you're anyway, you're you're
an anti Rams fan or whatever. You're just like, man,
that was good. There's an expression in basketball it goes
like this, run that back right, running back, running back
means let's do that again. Let's do it again. You
know my kids, I don't know, like everybody tries to

(42:56):
teach her kids Spanish when their babies, Like I'm gonna
teach myke to be bilingual. Some people have, you know,
Spanish speaking nannies or whatever. Some people just want to
teach their kids Spanish. Like, well, there's a part in
the brain where they can learn multiple language. So they
learned the you know, the sign language for more, which
is touching your all your fingers together, more, more and
more and more. And then you said no, no no Spanish, Moss.

(43:19):
So I was. I was last night. I was watching
and the game ends that I was thinking mass, mass
give me more, touching my fingers together. But um, yeah,
I think it's interesting that no one seems to be
pointing out no one seems to be pointing out what
happened at the end of the game. Um. I listened

(43:43):
to the entire postgame press conference and there wasn't one
single question about what the hell was he doing at
the end of the game. Right here, here's the way
it works. Okay, they get an interception and there was
a a buck nine to go in the game, and

(44:07):
the Rams celebrating, they're hugging each other and there they're celebrating, Oh,
we we won the championship. You didn't actually win the championship.
You don't have home field advanced throughout. And the Chiefs
have three time outs. If it takes somewhere between five
and eight seconds to run every play minute nine to go,

(44:29):
with three time outs, the other teams are going to
get the football back with you know, a little bit
less than a minute to go, a minute ago, and
all you need is a field goal in good weather
at the l A. Colosseum. That's not crazy. Not crazy. Now,

(44:50):
it should be pointed out that in addition to Sean
McVeigh screwing up, so too Tyreek Hill. All right, the
punt goes deep, He starts at like the yard line,
is scrambling back, catches it inside the five yard line.
Had he let it go, they would have gotten at
the twenty yard line with about fifty seconds to go.
Fifty three seconds to go in the game again, no

(45:11):
time outs. But all they would have had to do
is drive down forty yards and give themselves a chance.
Can pat Homes do that? We were told by Clipp
Kingsbury can throw the ball eighty yards in the air.
They have the fastest player in the NFL. I think
they could have done that. But when you get the
ball with a minute nine to go and you have

(45:32):
a great running back, I don't know. Here's just a thought.
You run the ball, all right, you don't want to
run the ball, take a knee. You can take a
knee on first and second down. You could even if
you want to throw it and go for it on
third down, fine, fine, or even on second down. If

(45:54):
you want to run the ball on first down, make
amus the time out come on on second down in
some bunch formation, tower tight formation, go with jumbo and
run play action to try and trick them. Fine, But
they threw it on first down a little flat pass out,
the play action pass out into flat super safe. Josh
Reynolds catches it, actually went out of bounds and they
didn't call him out of bounds. They wind the clock,

(46:15):
all right, The clocks wanting now, So the Chiefs used
their first time out. Second down, they run essentially the
same play only to the right side, and of course
it was batted down. The third play they run some
sort of screen pass, so the Chiefs ended up having
to use two of their three time outs. What are you?

(46:36):
What are you doing? And the idea that there that
the result was Wow, they won the game, So it
doesn't matter, well, you have they put themselves in position
where they had to try and stop the Kansas City
Chiefs with fifty five seconds to go. Bad field position.
That's only because tyreek Kill tried to field ball and

(46:58):
running out then he didn't have to. But the Chiefs
still had one time out. Why would you do that?
You're not taking losing off the table. But but the
same thing we we so many people hailed Sean McVeigh about, right,
was Todd Gurley, you know, essentially kneeling down like the

(47:21):
two yard lines that are running into touchdown. Going back
a couple of weeks ago against the Green Bay Packers.
Oh those guys, they totally get the time and the
score and what's at stake, and that the Packers had
no timeouts so they couldn't stop the clock. That's so genius.
Why aren't we saying the same today saying he completely

(47:43):
and totally butchered that thing. Look, John Calipari butchered in
the national championship game. They're playing Yukon. They end up
they were losing anyway, But the decisions on when to
foul and when to call a time out and when
to not foul, and going back a couple of years
ago in Yukon, it's hard to remember Yukon like five
years ago won a national championship, but did in fact happen.

(48:08):
I cannot believe a ten minute press conference and not
one guy was like, hey, Sean, wasn't God's name were
you doing? Like like listen, Sean McVeigh came to the

(48:31):
l a rams from the Washington Redskins. The guy who
preceded him with the Redskins, a guy who's a little
bit older than him, but a close friend, kind of same,
some of the same, some of the same family, but
proceeded him with with the Redskins is Kyle Shanahan. With

(48:53):
the Atlanta Falcons in field goal range up three in
the Super Bowl, all they had to do was run
the football or take a knee. Kick a field goal
win the game. They didn't do it, and it's one
of the things that sparked the greatest comeback in the
history of the Super Bowl. And I'm all for going

(49:18):
for it in the right circumstances. I'm all for youth
being served, young coaches with great energy and great enthusiasm
and getting everybody to buy into new ideas and new concepts.
That that's great, And I don't love when teams get super,
super super conservative. But it was almost as if they

(49:38):
were trying to They're trying to outsmart everybody. Well, we're
not going to continue to be who we were and
spread you out and beat you that way. Instead, we're
gonna try and do some play action and hit a
guy in the flat two times in a row. Just
run the football in first and second down, right, and
then on third down you try and figure out, all right,

(50:01):
are we gonna run the football? We might have gotten front.
You do have Todd Gurley, you do have one of
the best, if not the best, offensive line in football.
And it's not like the Kansas City Chiefs have some
juggernaut up front. It's not like you said there and
go like whoa Kansas City comes down watch out for
their uh rushed defense, Like that's not even how they're built.

(50:23):
I cannot believe that, of all people, Sean McVeigh is
not did not it's not necessarily heat. No one asked
one question. I was like, we're running out of questions here,
running out of questions. Uh. Mr Gottley from Fox Sports
in the back, Yeah, Sean, explain why you didn't run
the football once and they had three time outs over

(50:44):
a minute to go in the game. Inexplicable. Inexplicable. As
as as much as we can cast a shadow and
scorn on Andy Reid for his conservative nature in the playoffs,
we could do the same thing for McVeigh and what
he did last night. There is, in fact, the middle ground.

(51:06):
There is a smart way to play, and throwing the
ball at three consecutive times when they have three timeouts
and all you need is one first down to win
the game is not the smart way to play football.
We'll talk some hoops of coming next. Nikolai Vutchevitch joins
us he's the Eastern Conference Player of the week. We'll
ask him what it's uh, what it's like to be

(51:27):
one of the top players in the league yet I
don't feel like he gets maybe the discussion or or
the chatter that he deserves. And can the Orlando Magic
actually win there in first place in their division? Talk
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(53:15):
stories in the NBA of the season has to be
the virgence of the Atlanto Magic. Oftentimes you look at
teams and the records and you think, wow, they just
beat up on bad teams. That's not the case with
the Magic. They beat good teams. They beat the Celtics,
they beat the Sixers, they beat some of the top
teams in the East Eastern Conference. Player of the Week
Nikolai Vuchevich Vuchevik joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. He's uh the first player in

(53:40):
the Magics, well, first Magic player to score at least
twenty eight points ten rebounds three straight games since d twelve.
Dwight Howard did it. Nicola, thanks so much for joining
the show. Um, I don't feel like people recognize enough
what you've been able to do in the r NBA career.
For you personally, what's that feel like? Well, I think, honestly, uh,

(54:01):
I think if you know, if we were winning more, Uh,
I think obviously, uh, our team as a whole would
get more recognition. Uh, there's this, there's this part of it. Uh.
Winning just takes care of everything, you know. I mean,
you see we we've won three games now in a row,
and you know it feels like you know here in Orlando,
and you know, people are getting so excited because like,

(54:23):
we know, we've done something incredible when it's really just
you know, three games. I was even it. It's great
and it's a huge improvement how we've been playing. But uh,
it just comes with with the territory. You know what,
when you don't win especially for a longer period of time. Um,
it's just it's how it is, you know. But I've
I've tried to not focus on those things. Uh. You know,
I'm focused on and on what I can, which is

(54:44):
no my game, how play? You know, what I do
to help this team? Uh, you know, two good times
or bad times and uh, and eventually I know that
everything else will take care of itself. You know. I
know that people are on the league, you know, players, teams.
Uh you know, Uh, did they respect my game? You know,
I didn't know how good I am, and that that's
the most important to me at the end of the day. Uh.
And on the outside stuff I can't really control. But

(55:06):
but I I do think you're under selling it a
little bit. You're like, look, we just won three games.
Ro No, you've won five out of six. You know,
you've won seven out of nine. You're in first place
after after such a rough stretch there where you guys
had had lost six out of seven. What's changed? I mean,
you know, obviously playing home games help, but you've won
some road games this year. Um, what's changed over this

(55:28):
last two weeks? Uh? Well, we're just uh, I mean,
obviously we're playing much better ball. But I think, uh,
our our defense has improved a lot. I think, you know,
our communication, uh, you know, our trust on defensive and
helping each other, playing for each other has been much
much better. But I think that the main thing for

(55:48):
us has really been our offense. I think that you know,
we finally started um, you know, understanding, you know what
what coach wants us to do, uh, you know, buying
into the system. And then our ball movement has been great.
I think you know, we've been really playing for each other.
We've been really trying to you know, find the open man,
make the extra pass, um and then guys are just

(56:09):
buying into it, and it's become much more fun. And
you see no games that we have multiple guys and
you know, UM in double digits, but no fifteen and
above points in the twenties. Uh last night we had
air in at thirty one. I think I had twenties.
So you see more and more guys, there's corn more points,
and it's just been much more fun for us to
play that way. So I think our offense has been
the main reason why I've been able to improve UM

(56:33):
are playing the last few games. Nikola Uchbitch joined us
on the Dug Out Lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Your mom and dad were both players, Who do you
play more like? Well my mom? Uh, that's a good question.
My mom. I haven't really watched my mom played because
she she stopped playing before, uh my sister, before I

(56:54):
was born, So when she got pregnant my sister, which
was like five years before I was born. So I
watched my dad play. So my dad was a wing
my mom was a big man. Uh. So I guess
it would make more sense that I say I played
like my mom. But I think it's kind of a mix.
A lot of things that my dad did, um, I
do as well. Um, and some stuff come from my mom.

(57:18):
So I guess a little bit of a mix from both,
which it is good. You know, I can't complain about that.
I remember, and you probably don't know. My dad was there,
you coach in southern California, and he had some kids
from stone Ridge. You came over go to stone Ridge Prep. Right,
So what was that experience? What do you what do
you remember about when you first got to the states? Uh?

(57:39):
That was that was a long time when I was
twelve years ago. Uh, well, I landed uh in l A.
Uh And to me, I mean, the first impression was
you know, it was you know Los Angeles. Uh, you know,
the palm trees, the lights, you know, there was like
a big l A X sign when I landed. And
to me, it was all like from the uh all

(58:01):
the things that you see in the movies about the US.
And because back then, I mean you didn't have ob
see all the social media and access in in like
you had today. It's kind of you kind of see
through pictures how it is now. It's back then it
was like kind of a mystery, and so to me
it was just, uh, you know, l A was the
first thing that I saw when I came in. I
actually stayed in LA for two days before I went
to Semi Valley, so uh, you know, it was a

(58:23):
pretty good city to start with. Yeah, I would say
you still haven't necessarily you were in Simi Valley for
a year, but outside that the USC now you're in Orlando,
and like, look, Orlando is cool and it's good restaurants,
It's it's kind of an international city as well as
you know, everyone's from somewhere else. It feels like, but
do you ever get to like, I haven't actually lived
in America yet, right, Like you've lived in l A

(58:45):
and he lived in Orlando. You're still haven't lived in
America America yet? Do you ever get that of that?
I mean, it depends of what is America America? That's
just the question. People. I mean we're traveled a lot,
uh seeing a bunch of different out of the US,
and every every part has you know, its own um,
its own culture and its own uh different ways. So

(59:08):
you don't know, I mean l as you know, opposite
a lot of a lot of different uh you know,
very a lot of international people. So is there Lando,
I mean, I don't know. It depends like what what
is America? Like what exactly the American Americas. It's it's
a great point because we're morphing into these uh we're
we're morphing into almost like a caricature, like like as

(59:28):
people are a caricature instead of their their true self,
like cities are as well, Like every every city you
go to has the same restaurants, has the same department stores,
kind of has the same look. And so if we
want to make if we point out that Orlando, or
Orlando has nothing unique about it that's kind of what
America has become. Actually, it's actually a really really good point. Um,

(59:49):
you had a triple double this year. But not not necessarily.
I think that, uh, you know, there's definitely a lot
of places in the US that have their unique you know,
it's a flavors do I mean, sure, there are like
to detain restaurants in the chain, but that's everywhere. And
I mean that's but that's because the America is one
big country, you know. But then you go to like
different like East Coast and West Coast is very very different,

(01:00:11):
like the way people are no talk, the way they live,
it's very very different from each other. Like and then
Midwest is very different, like the food is different. I
think there's a lot of differences in a lot of
unique stuff, Like certain cities I really like going to
because of that certain feel that they have. So I
wouldn't say that, you know, America is the same across everywhere.

(01:00:31):
I think I would definitely not say that. I think
that there are definitely, you know, things that sure are
the same, that's normal, but then there are definitely things
they are very unique to each kind of region for sure. Um. Okay,
So if you could hang in one place anywhere in
the world. Where's your spot one place? Uh, that's a

(01:00:51):
tough one. Um, Can I bring my friends in a
family or there? You know, whatever you want? Dude, this
this is this is your imaginary utopia. You can only
be in one place where. Okay, Oh, that's a very
hard question. A lot of places I like in this world.
First one that can to my mind, if I can
bring like my whole friends and like my my family
and everything. I think Hawai it would be pretty good spot.

(01:01:14):
I went there two summers ago and it was It
was pretty pretty nice, pretty relaxing, and I really enjoyed
my time there. So what, I love Maui, So I'd
say it's an island, so I might get tired of
it eventually, but you know, it's my imagination, so I'm
sure I can move eventually. Yeah. I didn't put any
constraints on how long you had to stay. You picked Maui.

(01:01:35):
I don't think anybody's gonna gonna argue argue with you. Um,
you had a triple double against in that win against
the Sixers, And look, I think it's one thing to
have a great year and to win and to be
productive but against team like the Sixers, who everybody respects,
but also against Joel who who is like you, a
super diverse big guy who can make threes, can make

(01:01:56):
passes and as agile. Um to be recognized for your
your skill as a passer, which has steadily improved. What
what what does that mean to you, that that you
continue to evolve as a player. Well, that means, uh,
that's very important to me. Uh. You know in this league,
if you wanna be a good player for a long time,
you have to get better every year. Um. I mean

(01:02:20):
that that's the only way you can, uh stay at
a high level. Uh, you know, because if you if
you stay the same. And also the game has involved
so you have to involve with the game. You can
just play your own way when the rest of the
NBA is playing a different way than you get stuck
in you know, in time, which it's a it's not
a good thing to do. So uh to me, it
was important that you know, since I've got to the NBA,

(01:02:42):
that I try to add something to my game every year,
that I improve on things that already did well, did
even even do them better? Uh, study the game, watch
other players, Um, just try to you know, become as
versatile as I can as a player. And I think
also the way the NBA the game has been going,
I think for us big man, it gives us opportunity

(01:03:03):
to show off our skill set a lot more. You see,
big man that you don't play from the top of
the key where you know they handled the ball, they
passed the ball. You see, you know, big men that
have more and more triple doubles now, uh, you know,
have higher numbers of assists per game. I think all
that comes from the way the NBA's has been involved in.
But also you know, as big men, you have to

(01:03:24):
do the same thing. I mean players in general, Uh,
you have to do the same thing so you can
follow the times and you know, you don't get stuck
playing it all the way. So for me that was
very important. I think also the way we coach wants
us to play this here, he really fits my skill set.
I think it can be very productive. So uh, just
you know, try to keep working on those things and
try to keep improving. You guys are mopping the floor

(01:03:45):
with the Lakers and then they started to bunt a comeback.
Did you know that Lebron had unlaced his shoes in
the third quarter. No, I know I didn't crazy, right, like,
I'll focus on my team and don't know what I
can do to help my team when you know I don't.
I don't. I don't try to pay attention to what
the other team does much. Um, all, right, on your team,
Terence Ross, He now he did. He actually missed a

(01:04:07):
couple of shots, which is totally unlike him against the
Knicks in your last win. He's shooting almost fifty from
three here this month and before that Knicks game. I mean,
he was going on an absolute, absolute tear um. And
he says for why he's I mean he's gone. I
mean the numbers were seen right, like five of eight
four or five three or five two or two. Like
a guy who comes in and his one job is

(01:04:28):
to make shots and he's doing it at a at
a cow quarver like clip. What's gotten into Terrence Ross?
He's been playing great, uh you know, although I wouldn't
say that, you know, he's only jobs to make shot
because he's been you know, great for us and defensive
end as well. And I also offensively, not only making
shots but creating a lot of action for us as
a team, which is something that you know, people don't
necessarily see it because it doesn't like show up on

(01:04:50):
a statue when you watch our know when you study
our play. You know, he's been huge for us, you know,
getting things going offensively. But he's been great. I mean,
I'm really happy for him because No, last year, you know,
he got injured early on and he was out for
No pretty much the whole year. He came back like
last few games, but you know those didn't really count.
And uh, and I know we're out for a part

(01:05:10):
of time together when I fractured my hands, so I
knew how hard it was for him to go through that.
And I know he had a really great summer where
you could tell that he was really you know, excited
to be back to play, to work. And then, uh,
you know, he's been playing great for us. I mean
he's shot man, he's been incredible. Uh you know, he's
not only making shots, he's making a lot of tough
shots which have been given us a huge boost, especially

(01:05:31):
with him coming off the bench with a second unit.
You know, he's he's been great for us. You know,
he's had a couple of huge games, but no, we
know he's he's careful of that. He's a very good
player and hopefully he can keep producing for us. All right,
after this Toronto game, you guys hit the road and
I think he got like seven in a row on
the road where I don't don't you know until after
the Phoenix game, you know, which is the thirtie. That's

(01:05:53):
when you return home because you played Miami and so
you don't. It's not really it's a road trip, but
not really a road trip. Alan important is that road
trip though, considering you know it's Denver playoff team and
and another big guy who like you, everybody respects. It's
the Lakers, it's the Warriors, it's the Blazers, like bang
bang bang bang bang. In addition, with this Raptors game upcoming,

(01:06:16):
all these playoff teams, how important do you believe it's
for your team to show that you guys are really
good enough to be first place in your division, are
a legit playoff contender. It's definitely an important uh stretch
for us because we're playing a lot of good teams
and there will be a lot of road games except
for the Toronto one. But m kind of don't give

(01:06:38):
us a chance to see where where we at. You know,
um see how we metch up against those those teams,
will play some teams that were already played before, like
Portland and the Lakers, and uh, you know, give us
a chance to roads here where we had and I think, uh,
playing on the road, you know, we'll also give us
a stance to you know, uh even become more of
a you know, a stronger team as far an archemistry

(01:06:59):
and everything, because we'll be on the road. You know,
we'll hit adversity, but we'll be there together and we'll
be able to really work on those things. So hopefully
we can have a good road trip. I think that
could be a huge for us. But you know, for
you know, if you're on the West Coast team and
you go on East, or if you're on the East
Coast team you go west. Uh, those those trips can
be huge for you, especially come down to the end
of the year. You know, if you can uh you know,

(01:07:20):
get a couple of wins there, come back with a
positive score, Uh, those can be really really great and
give you momentum. So I know it's a tough challenge,
but I think the fact that we've played good in
the past two three weeks. Uh, you know, can give
us a momentum, can give us confidence that we can
keep it up. We just have to understand that, you know,
the only way for us to do that is to
keep doing what we what was worked for us so far. Well,

(01:07:43):
it's gonna be great. See, I mean the last time
he saw the Lakers a couple of nights ago with
thirty six and thirteen and just a dominant performance. Can't
wait to see how you play in the bright lights
and stable center. Then of course when you go north
take on defending champions to Warriors, Nicola, thanks so much
for joining us. We appreciate you giving us the absolute
correct pronunciation on your name. That's I think super important

(01:08:04):
and we appreciate you. Me our guest on Fox Sports Radio,
thank you, thank you much, Thank you for having me.
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(01:08:25):
crazy game, Isaac. What he got, Dougas we speak, Tiger
Woods and Phil Mickelson are holding a joint news conference
to discuss a joint news conference. Second, they're taking out
of context. I thought both Tiger and Phil are holding
a joint that would have been just so much more entertaining.
And yeah, there's no reason they can't do that. Maybe

(01:08:48):
next time, I'll say, are holding a joint news conference.
That's all about the punctuation marks. They will be discussing
their head to head match on Friday. Are dan by
tire is on hand at the news conference upfront, close
enough in fact, to be landed on by stray spittle
from the stage, and the passive aggressive barbs have been flying.

(01:09:11):
We've gone at it for, you know, over two decades,
and I know it's been a little bit you know,
jaded towards my side, so hence I'm really liking it.
But you know, for the years, it's a it's really
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the Denver Broncos have released veteran defensive back Adam Pacman Jones.
According to let's see here Glazer, no rapp report, no

(01:09:34):
schefter no. According to Jones himself, he posted on Instagram, quote, well, Denver,
it was good. Thanks for the opportunity, onto the next unquote.
Dolphins head coach Adam Gates announced that Ryan Tannehill will
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(01:09:55):
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isaaclown chron amazing, absolutely amazing. Oklahoma State's gonna play Oregon
in two thousand twenty five. So seven years now, kids
that are in middle school are just entering high school.

(01:10:39):
That that matters to Yeah, number one player in the
country pick Memphis over Kentucky. I guess that's important because, well,
it's somebody picking something over Kentucky. On the other hand,
he played he played four Penny hardaway Um in a
U basketball and James Wiseman is going to play for
him as as a Tiger. I think this story kind

(01:11:02):
of off the beaten path a little bit because of
the football game and because of where we are in
the football season, because Ohio State Michigan is this weekend.
I don't know nationally how many people are paying attention
to the Washington Wizards, but they are an absolute train wreck. Um.
Scotty Brooks has been trying to downplay it. I'm trying

(01:11:24):
to downplay it, but the story is amazing, amazing. Following
the team's morning shoot around at Capitol One Arena ahead
of last night's game with the l A Clippers, Scott Brooks,
along with wall Beale and Porter, try to downplay the
tension that's round the five and eleven team. It happened
last week, we moved on from it as a team,

(01:11:47):
not trying to minimize what happened. But in all sports,
all teams I've been on, I've been illegal. Almost thirty
years of player and assistant coaching the head coach, this
has happened. It's something that you understand. Something a competitive environment.
A lot of times you have an adult conversation gets
heated and we all have to live with what we
say and work things out. Um when that does happen
and move on. Remember this is before it came out

(01:12:11):
agean war g Nawski caming out saying everybody was available.
Brad Beale, I'm not going to be naive to it,
you know, talking about the trade rumors. I've heard these
rumors weeks ago. I didn't buy into them. Now I'm
I'm still not gonna buy into them because my main
priority and focus is gonna be is I'm gonna be uh.
If that's my main priority and focus, I'd be messed

(01:12:33):
up on the floor, Like you talk about trading the
team and arguments in the locker room and guy's not
liking playing with John Wall and John Wall cursing out
coaches and then later apologizing to it. Five and eleven team. Look,
I thought they would get it back. I thought to
be okay, I really did. Um. The start was bad,

(01:12:58):
but I figured, all right, you had to run. They're
playing the Mavericks, the Magic, the Nets, the Calves. Those
are the games you can win, and those the games
you know. They lost to the Maverick, the Magic. We
just talked to Nikolavuchevitch. They lost to the Nets. Those
are three of those last four losses in the Trailblazers
losing to them at home. So my guess is every

(01:13:21):
every year there's a team that just can function, something's wrong,
and the question becomes and last year, honestly, this time
last year, it was the Cleveland Cavaliers and they made
a couple of blockbuster trades. The only thing unique to
the Cleveland Cavaliers being blown up mid season and making

(01:13:42):
blockbuster trades and getting it back and going the NBA
Finals is Lebron James is on it. The only thing,
the only thing. But it was a non denial denial.
They didn't deny that the blow ups happened, they didn't
deny that it affected the team. They just said they
moved on sense. In other words, the Wizards are a mess,

(01:14:03):
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favorite parts of the show where I get to I
get to talk about what other people talked about and
comment on their comments. Skip Bayless thought Pat Mahomes didn't

(01:14:47):
play well last night. Take a listen, and I am
here to say obviously, Patrick Mahomes made some big time
throws last night, lots of them. But he obviously has
the NFL's best weapons, including the most dangerous receiver in
the National Football League, Tyreek Hill, and he was going
up against a shockingly underachieving Rams defense coached by our

(01:15:10):
guy Wade Phillips, now twenty three in points allowed in
the NFL. That shocks me because I thought going into
the year they'd be top five. And they're also twenty
three in third downs allowed. So let's frame the instant
classic with what Patrick Mahomes was throwing against. So big
picture again, I'm just speaking and spitting the truth. Patrick

(01:15:33):
Mahomes stunk it up last night in the in the end,
that was an instant disaster for that young quarterback because
you can't do any of that. And speaking of young quarterbacks,
if I can go all the way to the forty
one year old quarterback, if last night on that stage,
Tom Brady had done exactly what Patrick Mahomes did throw
for four seventy eight with five horrendous turnovers, you would

(01:15:58):
be calling for Tom Brady to hang them up today
like quit today. Now you wouldn't pay us that There's
six touchdown passes, had a couple of fumbles, had a
couple of interceptions, one which his arm was hit. The
other was just a you know, terrible throw there at
the end. Um I gutually terrible throw of the end
was what was when his arm was hit. Look, we

(01:16:20):
said this, and Ryan Music, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay,
I said this at the start of the year that
what you're gonna find is Pat Mahomes has way more
talent than Alex Smith. But Pat Mahomes is kind of
gun slinger style and the fact that he has loose
with the football goes counter to everything about Andy Reid

(01:16:43):
really does. And that's gonna be hard for Andy Reid
to take because Andy Reid has been a guy who's
had a ton of at least regular season success recently
with a guy who protects the football, and so you're
going with the complete and total opposite. This was one
of the reasons that Chicago Bears took Mitchell Trobinsky over

(01:17:06):
Pat Mahomes. It wasn't because they didn't know Pat Mahomes
had a better arm. Wasn't It was more accurate. Of course,
they knew they're not idiots, not idiots, but they felt
like Mitch Trobinsky was his his floor was a little
bit higher, his ceiling was a little bit lower. That
under times and arrest he tuck it and run it

(01:17:28):
and at least he wouldn't turn it over, and that
he has a great leadership quotient. And yes he lacks
that why the ability sometimes to make the wow pass.
And I would probably say it's a bit of a
mistake right to to take Mahomes in barness Mahomes got
to sit all last year at Trabinsky had to play
all last year, but Tropisky also needed to play because
he didn't play much in college. But none of what

(01:17:51):
happened last night is a surprised to anyone who's watched Mahomes.
He does have a freak show level of weaponry, but
he will turn football over way too easily. Music. And
then what I said, really start the year, Yeah, definitely,
And isn't it almost like what we saw in the

(01:18:12):
beginning portion of how Patrick Mahomes started this year where
he threw you know whatever, it was like eleven touchdown
passes in the first three weeks and didn't have a
single turnover Like last night was almost more of what
Patrick Mahomes really is as opposed to the first like
five weeks of the season where we've almost we took
the early parts of his career and all of a

(01:18:34):
sudden decided, oh, that's who he is and totally did
without everything else he showed us in college, which is
more of who he is as a player, not just
how he started the season. Playing quarterback in the NFL
is a lot like dating. It just is take Lamar
Jackson right first, couple of weeks, he's gonna be great

(01:18:54):
doing this thing, run around occasionally throwing. They'll start hitting
some big plays because guys will you know, you'll get
a sure guys spying on him in the box, and
people try and figure out how to how to shut
him down with this zone rate, no question, I know,
get some man to man looks and he'll make some throws.
But as he will ultimately have to become more of
a quarterback. You know, it's a lot like when you're

(01:19:15):
first dating a woman. Every time you're you're picking up
the check, every time you go out to nice dinner,
every time, you're wearing something nice every time. But at
some point she's gonna see in sweats and you're gonna
be poorly shaven, and you're not gonna be in the
greatest boot. At some point you know you're just gonna
be a couple and instead of going out every Friday night,
you're gonna you have minded we just stay in and

(01:19:36):
watch the show or you know, Netflix and chill. Is
that at some point you're gonna have It's it's when
once you regrets to who you really are, not the
front that you put out when you're if if those
two people can coexist, well, then you can make it.
It's the same thing a quarterback first five or four
or five weeks, like, dude, that's not who you are.
League still trying to figure you out, you know, and

(01:19:58):
you're able to get away with a couple of mistay.
It's like, guy, he's a young quarterback. But then the
league figures you out a little bit. You make turnovers,
you have a bad game. Coaches gotta figure out do
I try and fix something or do I just let
him play out and fix in the off season. But
if I fix in the off season, shame on me.
If it comes to ahead in the in the postseason,

(01:20:22):
a little bit harder than just like, hey, let's just
keep rolling. The guy is awesome. No one's saying that
Pat Mahomes doesn't have awesome talent. He's always had awesome talent.
But some of what you saw last night is exactly
what you saw if you paid attention to him, going
back to you know, when he was a player attack

(01:20:43):
and the reason that he had to sit for a year,
that he wasn't ready to play right away to start
the season. Well, some quarterbacks, especially young quarterbacks, they'll sort
of get like a shot to their confidence if they
have that many turnovers in the game. But since that
sort of who Patrick Mahomes used to be. If you're
a Chiefs fan, like, are you worried about that at all?
You're worried that he's going to somehow start becoming a

(01:21:04):
little gun shy because of how many turnovers he had
and how it really cost them the game ultimately in
the end. I don't know. I don't I don't think so.
I don't think that's his mentality. Um uh yeah, I don't.
I don't think. I don't think that's his mentality. I
think it could go the other way, where he keeps

(01:21:25):
making the same errors again and again and again. And look,
I know the rate ratings, the rankings are bad for
the Rams defense. Let's also be honest, their offense is
so good. They're on defense a bunch. It's that's a
that's a it's one of the things that's Points per
possession is actually a big issue in the NFL, because

(01:21:45):
if you just simply go by total number of points, well,
it's like, yeah, how many times were you on defense?
If you're on defense more as a team, well then
you're more likely to give up more points. It's just
that's just the nature of it. So I I've never
really understood and not all of skips stats are based
upon old school points per game, but some of it is.

(01:22:08):
And that's a that's an ill fated way to do it,
you know. I Mean it's like you look at some
of these defenses and one of the reasons they allow
fewer points per game is there's fewer staffs per game.
You play a bunch of snaps, You're going to give
up a bunch of points. That that's kind of period. Stop.
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a really good book, you just fly through the page.
You can't put it down. You fall asleep and you're
like man, that was amazing. You get up, you're reading,
you're just super addicted to it. Right, there's nothing like
a great, great novel, nothing like it. So when I
looked at last night's game, so many of the things

(01:24:49):
that people said they had issues with, Ah, games are
too long. That was almost a four hour game. It
was great. Every bit of it was awesome. And then
you get it back and get it back, and you
get it back and you get it back so good. Oh,
these penalties in the first half, it's a rep show.
Restaurant wrote the story in the second half, the lowering,

(01:25:11):
the helmet call, but not really, they know what they're doing.
It's not about how long, it's about how good it was, right, okay.
And while the penalties seem tedious in the first half,
and we can argue back and forth about it, the
gameplay ended up evening it out as it usually does.

(01:25:34):
Last night was a great night, not just for football
in general. Football in Los Angeles, and there's a weird
thing in l A. You know, they're building a new stadium.
The new stadium is gonna be ridiculously nice. And the Colosseum,
for lack of a better word, is in fact a dump.
But it's being Redone, Being Redone, it's gonna be really nice.

(01:25:54):
It's owned by USC now and it's gonna be super
super nice. Putting a couple hundred million hours into it
each year, last year one side, the next year the
other side, and I think they finished it off the
following year. It's gonna be beautiful. A matter of fact,
it's gonna be nicer than it was supposed to be
when the Raiders initially moved down here and never got
the statedum Redone. Am I the only one who's thinking,

(01:26:16):
why don't they just fix the coliseum? Why are they
building a whole new, couple billion dollar park? Right? And
I get it, you're gonna get final fours there. You
need an indoor thing, and it's got all kinds of
digital and the man, there was something special about the
l A Colosseum, side of the first Super Bowl, side
of the Olympics, something special about that place to have

(01:26:42):
that game. I can't be the only one that felt that.
Rama's you're a native Los Angelean in Los Angelenos. Sorry
if I'm not, I guess I'm a native. I mean
I moved here in eight one. I was six years old.
Good enough for me, but I don't want to be

(01:27:06):
too much of a regional homer. I just think I
just thought there was something special about the place. Mike,
Am I wrong? I think there is something special about
the Colosseum. I think people just, um, you know, they
want maybe their own place. You know, it's shared with
the USC Trojans, so maybe they just wanted something spectually
for the NFL and not being sharing. I don't I

(01:27:28):
don't know. I went to a game last year there.
I thought it was nice. I know they've done some
revamping to the press box area, uh, and I know
they put money into it as far as USC has,
so I enjoy it. Yeah. That the seats aren't the
best in the world, though, did they read? I thought
they red Half the seats are red and half the
other seats next year. Maybe that's the rolls will then. No,

(01:27:48):
the seats were bad at the Colosseum, but it's gotten
it's it's getting better. Um. It is pretty amazing that
they're gonna have two iconic stadiums and neither are gonna
be cocupied by the NFL teams, right like the Colosseum
and the Rose Bowl to basically a hundred year old
parks that by next year we'll both have been redone

(01:28:11):
multiple time. Fine, the Colosseum is needed forever forever. Didn't
they redo the Soldier Field in Chicago? Kept the same
the the iconic Soldier Field, but kind of redid the
inside of it then make it up. They made it
look like a spaceship landing on the old Soldier Field.
But it's great, it's kind people. It's it's still now

(01:28:31):
that they've had problems with the turf there, but it's
generally great because it's the same spot. It's you know,
located a cool and and the Colosseum that used to
be the worst part of Los Angeles, it's gotten a
lot better. USC's campus a lot nicer. It's still not great,
still not great, but it is it is central. Look
at the and the train drops you off right there.
Didn't you tell me you took a train there to

(01:28:52):
a game? Once I took the metro link and stuff.
It was very, very very good. The whole thing is good.
And now you're gonna move to Englewood, which is you know, look,
it's the other side of previous great games in the
in the final four and not four in the NBA Finals. Um,
but the surrounding area still has to be built up, rebuilt.
I mean, it's just it's just kind of Inglewood. It's fine,
it's whatever. I do think Inglewood will eventually see a

(01:29:15):
see a renaissance. But we're not even close to with
the renaissance is starting. I don't know. I watched last
night and I thought, this is what football looks like,
and congratulations to you the consumer. You need a product
that mirrors their needs. It's it's no different than Amazon, right,

(01:29:35):
don't do you guys see that Amazon made a bid
for the Fox Regional Networks. That's because Amazon has figured out,
we got a ton of money. Now let's get all
the stuff that people want. Used you had Amazon, you
could buy stuff on Amazon and it comes the next day.
Like well, you know, look, I got Netflix. Why why not?

(01:29:55):
Why can't it went Amazon Prime? And then they started
making their own shows. Supposed they have their own movies,
Like you know what if I went grocery shopping, but
I'm tired when I go grocery shopping, I pressed a
couple of buttons. I want the quality to be good, Like, fine,
we'll buy whole foods. You know, we'll buy old foods.
And now it appears that they figured out, hey, all

(01:30:18):
TV programming, all cable people don't love, but you know
what they do, like they love life sports and they
love it on their tab I'm doing games. A game
tonight you can see on stadium sports on Facebook, and
I'm telling like you can just if you want to
watch the ballgame, you put on your phone on Facebook,
on your tablet, you walk around the house, you walk.
I mean, it's it's one of those things where car companies,

(01:30:40):
I think are slow to evolve and figure this thing out.
You know, the GMC, they're putting the WiFi networks in
their cars, but they're still putting these drop down screens
right like in uh in a in a minivan, you
still have these screens, whereas some of them have figured out, hey,
you know, kids don't even they don't watch the one
movie on a on a six in screen anymore. Now

(01:31:01):
they all have ive hats, I the eye nanny. Find
a way to get find a way to get it
to where each person can have their own individual screen,
and you'll get people to buy your car. And that's
what the NFL has figured out. And we want action
we want scoring, we want wide receivers, running backs, we
want fun, innovative offenses. Yeah, you gotta call it tight

(01:31:25):
the first half so that in the second half we
got wide open action. It's no different than a basketball game.
The NFL have watched the NBA's rise to prominence from
being down the gutter, and they're like, what have they done?
Change the rules, made it more offensive, friendly, protected their
best players and the most watchable guys. One gets some

(01:31:49):
calls in two. Now they have the ball at the
top of the key and they're able to be the aggressor.
That's no different than the rules to protect the quarterbacks.
And we spent I didn't spend that much time, but
many people spent weeks complaining about I can't believe these
officials with the landing on the quarterback rules are ridiculous. No,
it's not. They don't want Aaron Rodgers career to end

(01:32:11):
prematurely the way that Tony Romo's career ended prematurely. They're
not stupid. They want to give the consumers what they want.
The NFL is just copying the ideas of Amazon. Hey,
let's take other people's ideas and put them into play.
What we do and if NBA changed their rules, let's
do the same thing. Get more offense, have more fun.

(01:32:37):
That the game was so good, so entertaining that no
one's calling out the fact that the winning coach completely
butchered having the football with Kansas City having three time
outs and he didn't run the football once. Now he's
called ut, you know why, because we're still high. We're
still completely high off of that game. It's a football.

(01:32:58):
It's a football. They're like, I used to run that
back interceptions, touchdowns, fumble returns, touchdown dances. L A. Jay
Z was there. It was amazing, Like they had the
lead and they lost, and that day had the lead
and then they almost came back, and then you got
Mahomes and you got like, dude, no one's it's so,

(01:33:20):
it's it's so it was so breathtaking to watch, so exhilarating.
Nobody pointing out the game went almost four hours, the
game had been moved. Nobody pointed out the fact that
mc McVeigh, But no, we point out that that Tyreek
Hill shouldn't run the wed like Tyreek Hill so much
that when he catches the ball on the two yard

(01:33:40):
line running back from the fifteen yard line, a ball
that he should have led bouncing the end zone and
take a touchback. No one said a word. You know why,
because we're just high on football. We're like, oh man,
oh man. Like when you go out with a pretty
girl and she gives you a kiss goodnight, you forget
it about the fact that she went somewhere and spent

(01:34:02):
all your lightly earnings and then tipped up and got
dressed up to just look good. She wasn't even really
paying attention to She was flating, flirting with the white staff, whatever.
But you gotta kiss in the cheek, and now you're like,
oh man, it was awesome. The NFL had a victory
last night for you. They heard you, the consumer. This

(01:34:23):
is what you want. We'll create it for you. We
hear you, well, hear you. Chris Harris Jr. Has played
against both Jared Goff and Pat Mahomes. Who's better? It
was better? We'll ask him. He joins us upcoming next,
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(01:36:10):
Fox Sports Radio. Chris Harris Jr. Is gonna join us
in a second. Uh. He of the No Fly Zone fame,
long time cornerback with the Denver Broncos, and this coming
off a game which he had a huge pick for
the Broncos and there come from behind upset of the
l A Chargers. Want to ask him about what we

(01:36:31):
saw last night, the difficulties in playing the position now
is playing as opposed to play in the position when
when he joined the league years back from and then
I want to ask him about last miles of Kansas.
Can he get it back to where uh where Mark
Vanino had it at KU and once upon a time
they played in the BCS Bowl. We got a lot
to get to with Chris Harris will do so upcoming

(01:36:53):
in four or five minutes. In the meantime. In the meantime,
you know, look, I do want to get to this,
uh this deal on Michigan and Ohio State. You know,
I just I don't really get it. I don't understand

(01:37:13):
the desire that we have as media members to really
look foolish. You know, you want to get the headline
of somebody guaranteeing something. And you know, look, there's there's
an old rule that I learned early on this business.
It's just who, what, when? Why? How? So when Karen
Higby Higden gets up there, Karn Higden gets up there

(01:37:39):
and is kind of proud of about guaranteeing a win,
and he's like, yeah, look, I believe in myself, I
believe in my brothers and my teammates, my coaches, Like
what do you what do you want him to say? What?
Why does that become? It just it makes us look really,
really foolish. It makes us look like people have never
been in a locker room before, and maybe we've ever
asked him the question, never been a locker room before.

(01:37:59):
But you really think Coron Higden doesn't think they're gonna
beat Ohio State. So unless he's willing to make some
proclamation about how he will bet all his lively possessions,
that's a non story. And I think it's it ends up,
it ends up putting you, making you have an adversary

(01:38:21):
relationship with players, with coaches, and frankly with fans, and
those are the people you need to have read and
listen to your stories staying foolish stuff. One of the
biggest upsets maybe this year in the NFL is happened
last week in l A in Carson with the Chargers.
Chargers were up big early, chance to put away the Broncos,

(01:38:45):
and then an interception turns the table. Uh. One of
one of the two interceptions was by our next guest,
Chris Harris Jr. Of course, he of the No Fly
Zone fame, joins us in the Doug Gottlier Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Chris, thanks so much for joining us.
You're playing the Chargers, things aren't going well. How are
you guys able to turn that game around? Oh? We

(01:39:07):
just knew that. We uh, we just had to. We
knew we had those two time overs that can definitely
help change the game. And then uh, just finishing that
three four minute drive. That situational football that we practice
and we just try to get get our offensive ball
enough time to score. And that's what we did. What
Philip Rivers say to you when he was screaming at you, Yeah,

(01:39:30):
oh man, he was like, man, we're coming at you
all day, man, And when he was screaming at me
like that, oh yeah, I'm about to get a pick.
Now that he did get you that, I think it
was one of the touchdowns where it looked like he
was sacked in the end zone. You know, she's not
in the end zone in the red zone. Looked like
he was sacked and all of a sudden, I don't
know if he pumped, faked or somehow. You know, Philip

(01:39:52):
is not the most elusive guy in the world, but
sometimes like the red Sea, like two yard and then
all of a sudden, you know, Keenan Allen becomes open
behind to you, how confusing was that for uh? Well,
they did a motion to where we switched where the
safety of gardener and I was just I was just
uh playing the middle of the feel safety and I just, uh, yeah, pumping.

(01:40:13):
I thought he's about to throw it. I thought to
pick six, and uh the other safety never was able
to get back on track, and he was just able
to get that open. Chris Harris Jr. Joining us in
the Doug Otlet Show on Fox Support Trading. We pointed
out before you joined us that you've played all of
these top teams, right, you played the Chiefs, you played
the Chargers, you played the Rams. Who's the best? Uh? Honestly,

(01:40:37):
I think the Rams are. I think they have the
running game, the top grilly uh what they do. And
also I think once they got to keep back then
that's gonna make them even better. So I would say
right now, I would say the Rams are probably the best.
You know, um, I I started the show and I've
talked about the strobout the show that last night, the
NFL got what they wanted, right. They want fifty point

(01:41:00):
games because fans seem to want it. But it makes
makes your job more difficult, whether it's the line of
scrimmage or in coverage. Obviously makes defensive lineman's job far
more difficult. How different is it for you now than
when you join the league in terms of the difficulty
of doing your job because the way the game's officiated.
Definitely now in the last I would say four years,

(01:41:22):
and probably men the hardest years just being able to
how they implement the illegal touching um uh, they're they're
really big on the p I s and uh. And
then what the offenses they're doing now they're creating they're
they're running the best play they've created. Um, what they've
done with implement the college offenses to the game, they

(01:41:43):
made it extremely harder on the defense. So with all
that said, I mean, when you've got corners that can
still make plays like myself and supply at a high level, Uh,
that makes it rare. How do you maintain your positivity? Right?
This is a year people will talking Vans getting fired
before the season never began and after after you know,

(01:42:04):
starting out to know, you guys had so many close losses.
Four points to the Chiefs, three points to the Rams,
a touchdown to the Chiefs on the road, that Texans
game barely got away from your nineteen seven. Obviously you
finally won one, but those close losses. For a guy
who's seen the wins and seen the Super Bowls, how
do you how do you keep the positivity? Yeah? Oh,
you just keep fighting. Man. We know we're stilling the

(01:42:26):
hunt and uh, we just want to try to run
the table as much as trying to win every game
as much as possible and keep fighting. Uh. This this
team is staying together and uh that's that's one thing
that's different than last year. I think we kind of
kind of broke up a little bit at the end.
And I think this year everybody's staying together, containing the fighting,
continuing to prepare to win because we know we make

(01:42:48):
a little make extra play or two in those games. Uh,
couple of those mistakes, man, we could possibly we could
our record could be totally different. I mean we've lost
tons of games by closed points and been in every
every game. Chris Harris, your joining U stuck got lip Show,
Fox Sports Radio, No Fly Zone? Uh? Uh the sergeant
of the No Fly Zone. Uh. Pacman Jones basically told

(01:43:10):
the world he got released before anybody else knew he
got released. Did he tell you before he tweeted out? No,
he didn't tell me, but I talked to him man,
and uh, I was definitely sad to see pac Man gol.
I thought he was. He's been He's been great mentor
for the guys, great in the locker room, and uh,
I just wish him the best. I want to ask

(01:43:30):
you about Philip Lindsay, like comes in relative unknown, takes
the position and in many ways and has been outstanding.
Did you know he had this in him? Oh? Yeah,
when I've seen him first seen him playing O t
A s and seeing how how dynamic he was, then
I definitely thought he was gonna make the team. And

(01:43:51):
uh he has that pit bull mindset. Man, he doesn't
he doesn't have any fear with anybody. He's gonna because
you could run over anybody. It. I mean, I think
if he's seen Luke Kinkley right there in front him,
he try to run over. So the guy plays with
no fear and uh me, he's been huge for us,
and he's got that extra gear. He hit that hole
with the chargers and there's guys that had angles on

(01:44:12):
him and they still couldn't catch him. It's one thing
to have that no fear. But he definitely has elite
speed at the running back and uh uh he can
uh he can bust at any time. Alright, So Kansas
your alma mater, a place that was last good really
when you were there. Um, Kansas goes out and and

(01:44:32):
hires less Miles. What's your reaction. I love it, man.
I think he's gonna be great. Um. I think he's
gonna be opposite of what Charlie Wats was was. Um.
He really Charlie really kind of almost really destroyed the program.
He was kind of players like it was the NFL. Man,
because Baby really good, an excellent job of just getting

(01:44:52):
us back on track. And I think less Miles is
really taking over UM in a good spot and I
hope that you can just contain out of its program.
Here's the hard part though, right, It's like I'm torn
because I saw him. They had no facilities at Oakleama
State when he took over, and he won there. But
the league now, the league is a spread league, and

(01:45:13):
he's a guy who's always been, you know, kind of
old school, big ten, run the football, counter trays sort
of guy. And I just don't know if you can
get those guys up front to control the line of
scrimmage at Kansas, how difficult? Do you think that is?
A kid? You? I think that's you. I mean, I
think that type of football is done. So I think

(01:45:35):
we got to continue to develop the spread that we're
running in UM. That's the new cause offense. And you
gotta be able to score point. You gotta keep you
gotta keep up, especially in the Big twelve, and uh
keep up with these other offenses. So he's definitely do
need a great offensive coordinator to come in. Hopefully you
have a younger guy um that has h's been pretty

(01:45:57):
good in this spread offense. Yah wouldn't be surprised with
Josh Henson, who's offense court in Missouri now he's at
Oklahoma State's an offensive line coach. He played for played
from at Oklahoma State. That'd be interesting to see. Chris
Harris Jr. He does some fantastic work in the community,
so hosting free football camps for kids, implementing his Underdog
Success education program in the local Denver schools, holding winter

(01:46:18):
clothing drives with the local youth, homeless shelter, shopping sprees
during holidays for under privileged families, and much much more.
You've got an annual holiday event coming up. What is
it there? We have my holidays with the Harrison's. We
saw this every year. It just found the foundation of
event that really helps to support the fundraising what we

(01:46:39):
do in the community, and we always gettempt to support.
It's a big, it's a great and everybody loves it
every year, and of course I have all my teammates.
Then well, listen, Chris, continued health and success and see
if you can turn this thing, turn this season around
and get you above five hundred. Congrats on beaten the
Chargers in l A last week. Can thanks for the

(01:47:00):
good works you do in the community. Appreciates me. Our
guest on Fox Sports Radio, Oh yeah, no problem, alright.
The guy who operates in that no fly zone for
the Denver Broncos, Chris Harris Jr. Let's let's get you
to Isaac Lowan cron got hoops going on, got football
moves going on? What else you guy going on? He
had Doug Busy day Sham's Rantia reporting that the NBA

(01:47:22):
has fined Kevin Duranto the Golden State Warriors twenty five
thousand dollars for hurling inappropriate language towards a fan in
Saturday's laws at Dallas. No word yet on how much
Durant would have been fined if he had merely lobbed
the inappropriate language instead of hurling it. In golf, Tiger
Woods and Phil Nicholson held a joint news conference today

(01:47:43):
in advance of Friday's head to head match, and the
tenor and chemistry between Tiger and Phil was surprisingly buddy like.
Every time I see you, you know, I want to
be able to rub it in. I don't want it
to be rubbed in, you know, I want to sit
in the Champions locker room at Augusta and talk smack
as opposed to well Yeah. In a related story, watch

(01:48:09):
for Tiger and Phil teaming up to star in Lethal
Weapon five out next summer. In the NFL, the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers have put second year tight end O. J.
Howard on injured reserve after he sustained foot and ankle
injuries Sunday against the Giants. Veteran defensive back Adam Pacman
Jones announced on Instagram because it's eighteen that he's been
released by the Denver Broncos and Dolphins have coach Adam

(01:48:30):
Gates announced that Ryan Tannehill will start at quarterbacks Sunday
against the Colts after missing five games with a shoulder injury.
Baseball Adrian Beltree announced his retirement today after twenty one
seasons and three thousand, one hundred and sixty six hits. Finally,
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will meet to Dan Buyer in a second. He's standing by.
He was just at the press conference between Phil and Tiger.
I just want to point out, didn't we have um,

(01:49:12):
what's his name? The comedian on UH shoot, Rob Briggle
didn't Rob Briggles say I didn't pick Kansas on my
final four, Like, that's not sure. I'm looking at my
final four picks on Instagram and I picked Virginia, I
picked Gonzaga, I picked Duke, and I picked Kansas. What
was he talking about? Who? Who told him otherwise? I

(01:49:34):
was like backpeddling, Like are you sure? You sure that's
what I picked? I don't know. Let's check in uh
with Dan Buyer, who is in Las Vegas, Sonny Beautiful
Las Vegas for the showdown between Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson.
All we've been able to hear is the cuts. It
doesn't translate on radio. If they were being sarcastic, if

(01:49:57):
they really like each other, What was it really like
inside that room? There was some stuff that was staged.
For instance, I think it was a setup that they're
going to be betting two dollars on a side bets
for Phil to birdie the first hole. But I do
think that some of the equips of the back and

(01:50:18):
forth are genuine. It's just Phil is so used to
the atmosphere and Tiger isn't used to that, and so
I think that So you think Phil is playing to
the crowd, and you know that Tiger really hasn't done
this before. So maybe, Doug, that's why you got a
weird vibe. But I think it it came over better
in person from hearing your description. Then maybe it did

(01:50:41):
via the web or or however you watched it fair enough.
That's Dan Buyer who's out in Las Vegas. Okay, So
I guess most people's thoughts are fears is man, if
we would have had this five ten years ago? Right? Um? Yeah?
Do you do you get the sense that they're they're

(01:51:01):
trying to pretend like it was ten years ago, Like,
what what is the sense um of kind of the
state of both players currently? Yeah, I don't think it's realistic.
A couple of reasons to have had it, uh five
or ten years ago. Let's just use ten, because that's
when uh, pre Tiger everything. If we want to go
back to two thousand and eight when he won his

(01:51:21):
last major. I don't think they were on great terms. Then.
Phil did say that when his wife Amy was diagnosed
with cancer and two thousand nine, two thousand ten, around
that time that Tiger reached out. But I think they
just weren't close enough to do something like this. And
the other part of it, Doug was there were a
bigger fish to fry. There were there. Tiger was still
chasing Jack Nicholas and and Phil was starting on his

(01:51:43):
major run in in winning majors at that time. Now
they're at the point where specifically with Phil, I mean
it's really there aren't golfers who are having success on
the PGA Tour in their fifties. Doesn't they go play
the Champions Tour. There are guys who play events and
Steve Strick and then you know, maybe in the hunts
here and there. But for Phil, it's just a couple

(01:52:04):
of more years. Tig, you're trying to come back and
do his thing. I it just it seems right for them.
I think that there's gonna be a couple of Phil
last stands that you've gotten the last couple of years.
That's why I think in the moment is now and
Tiger is hot now, so that's why it's probably happening now. Alight.
The course, Yes, the course. You know Phil has designed

(01:52:24):
his own courses. Yeah, I know one my buddy was
the uh was not not the what's it called with it?
Not the maintenance crew, the groundskeeper. What is it called shoes? Yeah,
huh yeah, grounds crew. Yeah, that's fine. Anyway, at at
one of Phil's courses and I was like, what's the
course Like He's like, well, it's exactly like you think,
like once you get past three yards, you can spray

(01:52:46):
it to the left if you're left handed. Right when
Tiger Woods Tiger Wood, you know, hit for that power
fade that that Phil will hit. Who's the course set
up better for lefty or tiger? Well, this is this
is part of it. And just to be frank, I
didn't get I haven't seen Shadow Creek. They didn't give
us a course tour. But it will be set up
for Birdie's. There is not gonna be a lot of

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fun if these guys are making bogies. So the course
has been set up for the fact that these guys
can make they can they can shoot low. The number
of seven, eight or nine under was even brought up
by by Phil and Tiger in the press conference today
of what type of scores out there. You also shortened
some of the par five's to make them reachable, and
two make for TV events. You know, once a year

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we see him struggle at the US Open on Fox
and then other times it's Birdie barrages and that's what
translates the TV. That's why I think you're gonna see
these guys be able to shoot low scores. There's not
gonna be thick rough. There's gonna be enough room, as
he said, for for Phil to to put it out there.
And if not, if you spraying and you can still
use three wood or iron off the tea and and

(01:53:51):
be manageable where he is, It's not gonna be a
tough track with these guys at all. Phil even joked
Doug in the press conference that he set the course
record here of sixty one in the early nineties or so,
and then Tiger came around and broke it and shot sixties.
So these guys are very well versed. And what Shadow
Creek can bring. Um, okay, what about the amount of

(01:54:11):
buzz like you walk into a press conference and Dan
by Dan of course been part of our golf coverage.
You've been doing golf coverage since before I arrived. Like
you you know what a Tiger Woods press conference is like?
You know what Phil Mickelson press conferences? Like? Is it
made for TV event? You know? Was it? Was it
five deep? I mean, how was it like a presidential
press conference? What was the amount of hype and and

(01:54:33):
the depth of reporters in there? Yeah, just to give
you a sense, and this is kind of the same
for the event on Friday. It's limited. There is there
was you know, media, there were about I would say,
I don't know, fifty to a hundred of us, but
we were. The press conference was done in one of
the main dining areas, if you will, of the Shadow
Creek Clubhouse. So it wasn't you didn't have two or

(01:54:55):
three hundred people there. You had about five or six
rows of chairs, ten of us maybe each in a row,
and then the cameraman. So it's exclusive, and it's gonna
be exclusive on Friday. There's only gonna be about five
people on site. And while it may seem exclusive and
people may have an issue with it, the main thing
is a Tiger and fill out of the draws Doug
and b. There's no other matches going on, so you

(01:55:17):
can't put twenties people on site to watch just this
one match and follow around the course. It's just not feasible.
So why it may seem somewhat exclusive, there's also reasons
and logistics for it. Do you think it's even close? Um,
this is what I think. I think Tiger wins, but

(01:55:38):
I think that Phil comes off so much better. Like
that's the outcome, like like like if Tiger loses, it's like, wow,
Tiger lost, Phil can still win by losing. So I
think Tiger actually wins this, not that it's rigged. I
just think that that's how it's going to play out.
But Phil is going to be the one to do
a lot of the uh, you know, the antics, because
that's the thing. He carried Tiger a bunch of this

(01:55:59):
press conference there. I asked the question to both of them,
so said, I don't really know how to answer that myself.
That he spoke for sixty seconds, and then they moved
out to the next question. I asked a couple of things.
I asked if if because Phil had talked about a Tiger.
It took him a little while when Tiger burst onto
the scene to really appreciate what Tiger was not only doing,

(01:56:20):
but also what he was doing for everyone else. So
I asked phil Um and I asked Tiger what has
film done for everyone else? Unfortunately Tiger didn't get a
chance to answer it. But I was curious about, you know,
because we talked about the Tiger effect, but was there
a phil effect? And that's what I asked m. The
only one I would ask would be was there which major?

(01:56:42):
Like we never got them paired together on a Sunday
at a major? Right? That never happened? Which if you
could go and they all have, all of these guys
have encyclopedia encyclopedia, which tournament do you wish that would
have happened? That would be what I would ask. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's a pretty good one. I'm sure they would
love us just because they both played so well there,
which like which which year would they say? Like we're

(01:57:05):
both playing well? This? Would you know what I mean?
Like it's to say that Gusta is fine? Then you
can follow up, but then't know which year because they
knew exactly what year that they were close in proximity.
They can ever get together, well, the best place probably
and and it almost happened because Phil was in a
group ahead, but was bet Page black in two thousand
two when Tiger ended up winning. But with that atmosphere,

(01:57:26):
with that, you know, the field, the New York crowds,
that probably would have been the best time because it
was heck we we knew it was electric. And Tiger
ended up winning. But I think two or three that
U s open, but it was still they were going
after each other. That probably would have been the best.
If I had to guess had an answer, That's probably
the answer I thought you would have heard. Is O
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view and br dot com and of course our man
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We're blessed. We're blessed with the dulcin tones of Isaac
Lowan crawl. Let's get to the press oppress, which is
brought to my Discover card. We treat you like you
treat you, isa Think what you got? Uh? Just another
blessed day in the world of sports, including breaking news
Doug just moments ago, Vinny Bond signor a good friend

(01:59:15):
who covers the Rams spoke on a conference call with
Rams head coach Sean McVeigh the traditional day after game
news conference, and McVeigh in answering a topic that you
spoke about throughout the show. According to Vinni bonson Your
Sean McKay said, the Chiefs were playing zero coverage on
Rams last drive last night, essentially daring them to run it.

(01:59:37):
The result is a numbers game in favor of the
defense that makes it practically a tackling drill. McVeigh felt
throwing it would put the Rams in better position to
pick up the first down. Here with his response, Gottlieb. Look,
I'm not saying that the coverage doesn't dictate you throw
the football, but everybody you throw the football, but everyone

(02:00:00):
as you run it to get the clock moving to
make them call time outs. Right, you can throw it,
put you better complete the pass, and you better stay
in bounds. And oh yeah, by the way, on third down,
on third down, if they're playing covers, zero win the game.
One one pass wins the game. Little screen pass out
in the flat. I I got that it worked the
first time, but you know, and you're very fortunate it

(02:00:23):
wasn't a great pass. Josh Reynolds, I guess stayed in bounds,
run the ball, or just take a knee and then
third down you can run play action and throw the
ball and actually try and get a first down. But
throwing a little screen pass the ball being reflected, you
can you know what this is like, here's the parallel
in basketball, when you're a point guard and a ball
carames off the rim and it's bouncing like past the

(02:00:45):
top of the key. You're at at the mid court line,
back pedaling to go get back on defense. You can
go and try and get the basketball, but if you miss,
or if you're late and they tip it over your
head and they grab the ball and dribble around you
and they get a dunk, you're you're coming out of
the game. You can throw the football when they're in
cover zero, but you better completed when you want to
run the clock and get get get them out of

(02:01:07):
time out. Former Michigan State University President Luanna Simon which
charged today with two felony counts of lying to police
during the investigation into complaints against Dr. Larry Naster. Simon
faces up to four years in prison if convicted. Now
reporter Dan Murphy spoke with Simon's attorney, Mayor Morgan Roth,

(02:01:31):
and with a name like Mayor Morgan Roth, the following
passage from Murphy's article is perhaps not surprising. The article
says Morgan Roth said the charges brought against Simon are
totally false and strictly political. In a final analysis, they'll
pay for it, said Morgan Roth. When asked to clarify

(02:01:51):
what he meant by that comment, he said, quote, I'll
take care of that. You figure it out, but they'll
pay for it. Um quote Mayor Morrigan Roth. Really, Um,
I'm really on the name. I'll just say, Look, the
truth will come out. If she lied about whether or
not she knew about the doctor being investigated for Title

(02:02:15):
nine in two thousand and fourteen, then she'll go to jail.
She didn't lie, then she won't go to jails. Pretty
that simple. I don't I don't go by chargers, no offense. Um.
I actually go by what we hear court court testimony.
That's the end. When you hear both sides of it,
you get a better sense of it from the court
to the field. Matt Neggie, the head coach of the
Chicago Bears, says he is cautiously optimistic the quarterback Mitch

(02:02:38):
Trabinsky will be able to start on Thanksgiving against the
Detroit Lions despite a right shoulder injury. Nie said today
he wants to play. We've got to make sure in
these things we do the right thing unquote. If Trabinsky
is unable to play, Chase Daniel would get the start
at quarterback. Just in case, of course, Chase Niel is
with Naggie going back to Kansas Kansas City days. Remember

(02:03:01):
he was in Kansas City, started one game against the Chargers,
then he went to Philadelphia when uh, you know Philadelphia obviously,
uh Doug Doug Peterson took over. Came from Kansas City,
so he knows that offense like the back of his hands.
And he actually might be better at throwing the football.
He's just he's just small. He's just tying. Yeah. The
headline here, Ryan Tannehill isn't quite one, but confident he

(02:03:26):
can do everything. I have to say the same thing
to my wife. In a related story, Ryan Tannehill will
return to the Dolphins starting quarterback job against the Colts
this weekend. He said, I feel really good, not quite
one percent, but I feel confident and have made all
the throws I'm going to need to make over the
course of a game. Unquote, he's missed the last five
with a shoulder injury. Yeah. He also said that he

(02:03:49):
doesn't feel like he's being stabbed in the heart like
he felt when he originally uh, when he originally hurt
his shoulder. That's a good. That's a that's a good.
That's a good sign to not play when you feel
like you're getting stabbed the heart. Hey, get out there
and pressed. That was the press. All right, boys, I'm
off tomorrow. Um So I gotta ask you this. Ramo's
favorite thing about Thanksgiving is what favorite food? And Thanksgiving
is what love? Ham and the cranberry sauce You like

(02:04:13):
the cranberry sauce out of the cannra homemade homemade music.
Favorite thing and Thanksgiving, give me the turkey with mashed potatoes,
white meter, dark meat, dark meat, good Man, Isaac Glow
and Crown. Favorite thing. Ham pie, ham pie, ham pie,
ham pie, ham and pie. I take it, not a
ham not an actual ham pie. Right, you guys missed it.
The answer is desserts. Desserts always the answer. Doug gotlip show,

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Happy Thanksgiving

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