November 27, 2018 • 41 mins
Doug tells you why the Texans have been impressive in their 8 game winning streak but he can’t trust them long term. He breaks down why the Jaguars have failed this season despite last season’s success. And Lane Johnson from the Eagles joins the show to talk about their comeback win over the Giants and how they can make another run at a Super Bowl title.
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the beautiful City of Angels, Los Angeles, California. Let's dig in,
shall we? The Texans one again last night? Again again
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last night. Houston UH continues to run rough shod over
their division after a terrible start to the season, thanks
in in no smart small part to the Indianapolis co
It's deciding that, you know, we could tie, but we
prefer to lose. That's what happened when they were owing three.
They've proceeded to win that game, run off eight consecutive wins,
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and now they're eight and three and the question is
how good are they? And the answer is, if you
if you ever wondered what the Texans would look like
with competent quarterback play here you go, right, They got
Lamar Miller twelve carries hundred sixty or two yards. Got
Deshaun Watson, who also had nine carries for seventy yards,
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and he threw the ball in twenty four times, completed
nineteen of them, two touchdowns, nary an interception. I just
wanted to say nary to sound sound a little high flutant,
narry an interception. But if this is Deshaun Watson great,
the answers, now, is he bad? The answers no. But
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Deshaun Watson is pretty much what you always thought he
would be, which is he's a great leader. Guys just
like him. And that is a part that is a
part of uh of the um quantitation. Right, that is
a part of the quantitations the word I'm looking for, right,
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Like if you're it's it's one plus two player A
plus B plus C plus D equals z. Right, if
Z is the good quarterback, he's at least part of
the quantitation in terms of personality, he has it. He
has it in factor and if you think, well, that
doesn't really play a part. If it's just dude, Jay
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Cutler can throw a football. But everyone who played with
Jay Cutler seemed to hate Jay Cutler. And you can
tell me no, they didn't, but I can tell you
that when he was in Chicago, they took his locker
and had him dress outside the locker room because they
didn't like him. It's part of it. You have to
get guys to play for you and play with you,
and he has that. But man, does he run a lot.
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And he's been hurt twice already. And when we saw
him stay in the pocket during his senior year in college,
he showed that he's not perfect. And when we've seen
him stay in the pocket in the NFL, he's not perfect.
But when you let him do both, he's pretty amazing.
The problem with doing both is it just doesn't have
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a long shelf life. Right, he still doesn't really slide,
he still doesn't really avoid contact. He's still Here's what
Deshaun Watson is. What makes you will in fact break
you even when it's something amazing, It's it's Kobe. It's
the Kobe Bryant factor. Kobe Bryant was such an alpha,
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such an had such an incredible mentality in terms of
believing that he could do anything in a basketball court
and no one could stop him. That it made him
really hard to live with Andy, and it made it
so that he could never take uh a secondary or
even tertiary or worse role with the Lakers, because hey, look,
if you want to play with Kobe Bryant, you gotta
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understand he wants to take those shots when he can't
make those shots. What made Kobe Bryant great made him
so hard to deal with late in his career. What
makes Deshaun Watson incredible makes it hard to buy in
long term. To Deshaun Watson, even if what makes him
incredible in the short term will play until he gets hurt.
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There's no such thing in life. I have a I
have a friend who's an agent, right, we all in
this business have agents. And he's like, tell me, this
sixty year old agent, there isn't one. Just a young
man's game. You gotta get on a plane, you gotta
go to dinners, you gotta have drinks, you gotta smooze,
you gotta have great energy. Like once you get past fifty,
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like it feels like it's over, right, it feels like
it's over. It's the same with running quarterbacks. Athletic quarterbacks.
And before you sit there and go Doug, that's a
connotation for the black quarterback. No, Steve Young, Steve Young,
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you have to run around a lot. Steve Young's career
was cut short. But Steve Young is arguably the greatest
mobile quarterback in the history of the sport. And so
do I think DeShawn Watson is great. No. I think
he's great at what he does and fun to watch.
But no matter how many rules they put in place
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to try and protect quarterbacks, they can only protect you
inside that pocket. At some point, mobile quarterbacks have to
go out into the real world and can't protect you
from the real world anymore. Right, quarterbacks are a lot
like private school kids or parents that don't lay have
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suits in their house. Our first house when we moved
to Connecticut, I was six years old. Get a job
at ESPN and we just bought our first house in
Oklahoma City a year ago. Year before, had done local
radio for a year, done games for a year, got
offered a job, went back and played in France for
a month and a half, came home, got offered a
job after doing the NBA Draft on ESPN radio, and
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got offered a job up there Stull gotli show Fox
Sports Radio, and I never forget that there was three
girls that lived next door to us, and we were
kind of like trying to be like uncle's and aunts.
You know, my wife and I we had no kids.
We had two dogs, and our dogs would were allowed
to go down to their house and their kids could
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come up and hang out our house, and so they
didn't feel like they had to have a babysitter sometimes
because we were just around and we were frankly one
in wanting to have kid mode and we just like
having kids. And they would come into our house and
out through our cabinets like little rats for candy and
sweets and anything that was a treat. Why because their
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parents limited them. And it's the it's a lesson that
all parents learned, is like, look, it doesn't mean that
you want to crack a beer with your kid or
have shots with your kids, but if you completely shut
them off to the real world, eventually the real world
will find them. And when they get to the real world,
you can't protect him from You gotta teach them how
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to how to handle the real world. Well, that's the
same thing with the running quarterback. The thing I've learned
here in the last week is confirmation that scattered reports
are mostly accurate. Can guys improve, yes, hell yes, they
become have a higher football like you. They can learn
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to work harder, to work smarter, all that stuff. But like, look,
I watched Geno Smith a fourth quarter for the Charge.
I was like, God, he was awful. And then I
go back and I remember Nolan Oroqi right in a
skutterport that was dead to rights accurate. Baker Mayfield, who
I told Colin cow Heard last year, Like, I like dudes,
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love playing for him, but he has this thing where
he feels like he has to engage in every fight.
He es basically got little band syndrome. He's got engaged
in every fight on the field, off the field, doesn't matter.
He never stands down. He always engages, and that can
rub people the wrong way. Josh Rosen, if you've heard
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any of his quotes, you've been around him, he just
has this way about him where he's really smart, he's
really talented. But man, I don't know if he leads
the locker room because he knows he's really smart, really talented.
And Deshaun Watson went where he went in the draft,
not because he doesn't have that it factor, but because
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within the pocket he's okay. Outside of the pocket, he's magical.
But outside of the pocket is like the real world.
We can't manage how many candy bars you eat in
the real world when that kid, when that private school
kid goes to college, we can't manage how let you
stay up or if you eat right, or if you study,
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you're you're on your own. And you tell me where
there's an old mobile quarterback. They just they don't exist.
And here's a guy to knee injuries in who still
can be magical. And I do believe gives the Texans
an honest shot on a shot at winning the a
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f C on a shot because they've had a defense
for a defensive front for years now. They have a
running game. You know, they got Nuke, They they have
a good wide receiver like but they've had they had
Andre Johnson, they've had Aryan Foster, they've had a defense.
The differences they have competent quarterback play and a guy
with an in factor that you want to get behind,
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but long term buy in when you're better out of
the pocket than you are in the pocket. In the NFL.
That's cool. That's fun. That doesn't last for a long time.
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mentioned that today is Tuesday of giving. No one knows
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that better than Lane Johnson. He joins in the Doug
got Leave Show on Fox Sports raddio. You do uh
touchdowns for Children's Hospital Philadelphia, Right Lane, Yes, sir so s.
For every touch down scored this season, donations will go
to the Children's Hospital Philadelphia, something I've been doing in
the past couple of years and just overall for a
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great cause. Here's the part that was has never been
brought up. I don't understand why you didn't get to
throw the throw the Philly Special in the Super Bowl.
Like people who know Lane Johnson when you got to Oka,
you were at quarterback, how come you don't get to
throw the pass on on Phi Philly Special? Um. I
think it's because, you know, since playing line, I like
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to cast my thumbs up. So you know a lot
of people get their thumbs broke or hands messed up
if they don't pay for heavily spat their hands. So
that's that's probably why I don't. But if I can
take that off, though, I could get it done. I
know you could get it done. I'm I'm I was
half messing with you, Lane Johnson joining us in the
Dug Out Show on Fox Sports Radio. You're a guy
that can condition out, but you can also take it
so I know guys have been tweaking you about, hey,
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we have more fun here with New England. Um, what what?
What was that? What's the when you're playing this year
in the league. What's the general reaction to your comments
that you made during the offseason? Nothing? Really, I just
feel like, um, I've I've made a lot of people
angry and uh, I still make so many ad time
I hear it about this, so I feel like I've
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done my job. Is it? Is it in fact different
when you're the champion? Like the the shakespeare Shakespearean quote
is heavy? Is the head that wears the crown? Is
it heavier? Is it harder? Is it less fun when
you're the defending champ instead of scrapping to try and
win that championship? I mean, the season hasn't gone his plan,
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but as far as where we're at, it's it's anybody's games,
so uh, as far as us and so we have
everything in front of us. Um by a little concerned
with last year. I mean, it was great to win it,
but it also, um, I think you got to focus
in a little bit harder on the next season. It's
a you know, you're playing a harder schedule and and
by design that's it's been for you to not do
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as well. Yeah, I mean, like, look, on paper, last
year you had those injuries, Carson obviously didn't play in
the playoffs, are late in the season in the super Bowl.
On paper, you guys should have been better. So why
is it Is it simply a more difficult schedule or
why is it that it's been more difficult for you guys. Well,
it's that I think you know, there's nineteen people gone,
you know, from last year's team to this team, so um,
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you know it makes a little bit of difference. You
got a quarterback coming off a c L injury only
this you know, second third year in the league, and
so he's still developed, us still trying to come back.
Mat um new parts on the old line. So um,
you know, far as essence and I think, you know,
hopefully we can reach our peak towards end the season
and really come on strong and and try to continue
what we did last game. For us having a balancet,
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we we as outsiders Lane Johnson tackle Philadelphia Eagles, defending
Super Bowl champions joined us in the Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Trade a huge comeback win over the
New York Giants this past weekend, UH twenty two. As outsiders,
we look and we go like, hey, now only they
lose guys, but you lost some of that offensive you know,
some of the offensive brain trust, right, you know, you
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got one guy goes and gets a head coaching job,
another guy goes and Frank Griig is doing a great
job at Indeed, and then other guys call him plays
in Minnesota. How much of that has affected the product
in the field. Oh, that's the product of of of winning,
you know after every Super Well, it's that's how the
league works, Chris opportunities, spread the guys better for their families,
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and ultimately, uh, you know, you have to recrup and
come back to next year. So this is the first
time we ever happened to do that. We're learning, but
at the same time, I feel confident about the teams before. Uh,
you guys are down nineteen to three, and I thought,
I'm watching this game with Brian Baldinger, who breaks it?
Breaks you guys down? Okay, Brian Balding from the NFL Network.
Lane Johnson training us and you guys, sholl only score
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go for two and get it. But you're down nineteen
to three and you you scored a six place seventy
five yard drive. Zach ERTs catched that touchdown past from Carson.
This is end of the end of the first half
this past weekend. Is that the drive? Is that the
drive that changes the season? Oh? Definitely. I think as
far as credent energy and change at the momentum the game,
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that was it and really going to um, you know,
going out to half time, we knew that we were
created a smallment on but you just needed to capitalized
and and came out of different team a second half.
But really can back, made some some adjustments and and uh,
you know, probably had the best best half of the
season so far. Lane Johnson joining us in the Doug
Got Live Show Fox Sports Radio. Um, didn't Oklahoma used
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to play defense when you went to oh you what
what what what has happened there? I mean it's always
been a shootout. I mean they thought the Western India
game was bad this year. I think it was two
sist one something like that. I know it was in
the sixties and so it was putting us the same scenario.
It's just the way it is, man, um. I mean,
you're throwing the ball every time. You got some of
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the best athletes, you know, quarterbacks, receivers, and so you're
gonna put out points. But yeah, you know it's definitely
not a no Alabama defense or anything like that. But
still when you when you have an offense like that,
you can you can win a lot of games. Yeah,
it's it's been explained to me. We had My Gundy
on the show, Oklahoma State's head coach ester Lane Johnson
the Eagles Oklahoma lum My My Gundy's explaining to me
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in the past. He's like, look, if you want to
win in our league, you're you're just not going to
be able to stop people. Everybody spreads you out. Everybody's
got skill. It sometimes hurts us in bowl games and
in the College Football Playoff, but you have to understand
that all these kids from Texas and all these quarterbacks
and these coordinators like this is just it's a high possession,
high volume of catches and touchdowns. That's just kind of
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the way it is. Is that a fair assessment of
why it's so difficult to compete, you know against SEC
and maybe Big ten schools in the ball games. But
you can't win your league if you play the way
that a a Michigan does, for example, in the regular season. Yeah,
I mean there's I mean there's been years well colhomicide,
DOMA defensives and whenever they do that, they you know
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usually you know up there every year. Um, but I
just think football has evolved so much. It's all about speed.
It's all about spreading people out, having great schemes and
rail reads. It's there's there's no stopping. He's just trying
to slow down. And those teams that have good defenses
yere and you're o usually people like Alabama Cleps and
stuff like that. And uh And I don't think far
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as recruiting, Um, they're picking up you know, Oklahoma Sweitsch
to the Jordan brand. That that's howful recruiting. I think,
throw them up and up, you know, definitely since I
left school. Uh, you know, totally new the locker room,
everything saying, So that's the rush ahead. Doug gotlip show
Fox portrayed that's the voice of Lane. Johnson joins this,
Let's let's circle back to your Eagles. You mentioned Carson
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coming off an a c L injury, and I think
fans think that everybody's gonna be you know, a d
everybody's gonna be Adrian Peterson just bounce back, and you're
here the same guy. The truth is, it does take time.
We've seen it take time for Deshaun Watson who suffered
an a c L injury, and and sometimes it it
it's you know, when you suffer the injury and how
bad the injury was. You're with this guy every day.
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You've seen him since he started came back and started
playing the first couple of weeks this season. Is Carson
back again? Just not you can't tell me how he
truly feels, but how he looks and how it is
to play with him. Do you think he's completely back?
Probably so, just just with how he's attacked to rehab process.
I mean, you know, every day this all season, and
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I just feel like has of seasons gone on, you know,
he's taking hits um and I thought, he's his body.
He's back where he can do that when he feels
confident and really doesn't have to worry about it. Black,
you said, though, I mean it's a it was a
ongoing process, you know, going through the preseason um trying
to get that ride. So it was just you know,
been along your form. Yeah. He's also a guy who
he didn't you know, like he dove, but he didn't
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really slide. He's a big old dude, right, he's he doesn't.
And quarterbacks they don't want to be, especially young ones.
They don't want to act like they're soft and slide.
But you know, don't you at some point good grab
and go like, hey dude, listen, we want you around
here for a long time, so slide or if we
miss a block duck. Do you have those conversations with him?
He's smart. I mean you really don't have to tell him.
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I mean, he knows, he knows what every right saying. Uh,
you know, he he knows, and that's something he's been
working on, just you know, being smart. There's times when
when they make that play and there's times when the
go down and let to play another one and uh,
you know he's a justing about the same time he's
a FIO competitor, and uh, you know that's what makes
you so special. With Tom Lane Johnson joining us on
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio, all right, dude, Uh,
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three of your last five are on the road. You
get two shots at the Redskins and that means you
know Colte McCoy a couple of times here, plus you
get the Cowboys in the road, you get to take
on the Rams who are puffing their chests out. Uh
you know, because what's what what's your assessment of what
the one or two things you guys need to do
to make that final push when the division you're getting
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the playoffs, we gotta big consistant. We're having guys coming
back from injury. You know, our secondaries destimated with injuries,
so you've got days coming back healthy that'll be huge.
And really, um, just far as open the defense out
the offenses at state balance. We have to be able
to run the ball. That opens up everything in the game.
Next everything easier. So uh, just send to keep that momentut.
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In this game, I saw a lot of positives and
the stuff to grow on and and move off from there.
Lane's got a great foundation. You've got a pledge it
dot org slash Lane Johnson, l A and E. Johnson.
Lane Johnson touchdown for Children's Hospital Philadelphia. Hey man, it's
a Tuesday of giving. You give your time so much
the community. We appreciate you giving us a couple of
minutes of your time here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks
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for having me. Man. All right, that's Lane Johnson joining
us on the Doug gott Leaps Show. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show week
days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. The Jaguars had
drafted in the top five, top ten of the draft
seemingly for fifteen straight years. Eventually they had to figure
it out. And and if you think back to last year,
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were they good. Yeah, they're good defensively, but they also
were in a division where Marcus Mariotta was hurt, Andrew
Luck was hurt, Deshaun Watson was hurt. Those are the
three starting quarterbacks in your division. Combine that with an
easy schedule and with the a f C being a
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little bit soft, right. I told you guys last year,
sat in this chair and I said, Baltimore should have
been the playoffs. The Charger should in the playoffs. Baltimore choked,
plus flac Oh at the start of the year was
coming off of back injury and wasn't good. So Baltimore
choked and the Chargers choked with their kicking game. That's
why they started out what was it owen for? Right?
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But the Chargers were one of the top six teams
in the f C and the Ravens were one of
the top six teams in the FC. So you take
away two playoff teams and then you got Kansas City,
who I kind of we all knew the ceiling with
Alex Smith, and you really only had three possible competitors
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to other possible competitors to get to a Super Bowl.
Your division has no healthy starting quarterbacks. That's like almost
six guaranteed wins plus your talented. So they end up
getting to an a f C championship game against the
Patriots team which had as little talent as any that's
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ever reached the Super Bowl, and they lead at the
half and they lose a game. And so this year
they kind of get exposed. Here's Michael Lombardi yesterday, former
general manager of the NFL on why the Jaguars fell apart.
We lose sight of this. We think that the Jaguars
are in the stellar franchise that have had been a
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consistent model of winning. And yet in thirteen they won
three games, and fifteen they won five games. In sixteen
they won three, oh and seventeen they only won ten.
They didn't dominate. Yeah, they played well in Pittsburgh and
played well for three quarters in New England, but they
only won ten games. Remember in seventeen they lost to
the Forts badly in San Francisco, and this year they're
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three and eight. So, like, I think we've kind of
gotten carried away a little bit with how good these
these Jaguars are. Go over their draft picks, stuck. Look
at their draft picks. I mean they trade Fouler away,
they've got nothing for him. I mean, look at some
of the players that they're not able to have had
top picks in those rounds that I've been able to
cash it off so accurate. Here's Tom Coughlin on a
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Jacksonville radio station. We were a whistle whistle whistle. We're
in the Super Bowl, right, Okay, And that's my position. Okay,
So tell me, everyone out there, what they're going to
do another that circumstance about your football team, You know what,
aren't you going to fill other pieces in and try
to be as good as you can be? And we tried. Yeah,
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well the game got us and we go back to
the drawing board and then the nature of the game. No,
you got exposed to be exactly we thought you were
exactly what we thought. We had games. We had games
even last year where they managed Blake Portles. They didn't
let him throw the football. They didn't want him to
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make the big mistake because they didn't trust Blake Portals.
I sat here week five of last season. I don't
need God as my witnesses because I got John Ramos,
who's got a special direct line to God. I got
Ryan Music, and you guys got the tapes. Guys, did
I say they should trade for Eli Manning five weeks
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in the season. They say that music, They say that wrongs.
You did say that. And my logic wasn't that Eli
Manning was great. It's that nobody thinks Blake Bortles is
any good and Manning is somebody that Tom Coflin will trust.
And that's all they needed. And they they fooled themselves,
and they fooled fans, and they fooled some of the
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media thinking, you know what, Blake Bortles had turned the
corner and he was better, and like, no, he's not.
The division had no healthy quarterbacks none. They had a
last place schedule. Now you've got all healthy quarterbacks to
Shaun Watson's healthy, Andrew Lux healthy, Marcus Mariott is healthy,
and you have a first place schedule. And that's what
happens too much, too soon for them to realize you're
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not actually playing against good teams. You're playing against teams
backup quarterbacks, and backup quarterbacks are backups for a reason.
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f s R to listen live. Danna Jeremiah joins us
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Of course, you see DJ
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on the NFL network. I hope you download his podcast
Moved the Sticks. Here him weekly on the Doug Gotlip Show,
and you'll hear him called Chargers games locally on the
Chargers Radio Network and inferior broadcast to the one that
being Brian Baldinger did just just one or two broadcast
cast booths over um. Okay, look, I was blown away
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by the fact that the Cardinals just decided to quit
early on the first in the second half, Like I
hadn't I hadn't seen that one before, especially the rookie quarterback, Like,
why have Josh Rosen play? If you're not gonna let
Josh Rosen play, just let him get back there, get
rid of the ball quickly so the pass rush doesn't
affect him, and and let him learn a little bit.
But um, after trailing tend nothing. It was a really
impressive performance by the Chargers. Should I be impressed or
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was it simply a terrible team that they beat up on? No,
I think it's a little bit of both. I don't
think you go one way or the other. Now that's
that's not a talented football team in Arizona. It's not
an iron football team. I don't think that's up for debate.
But uh, that being said, I think you watch that
from a Charger standpoint, obviously rivers with what he did. Um,
but just a variety of weapons that were on displaying
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kiro Williams, I don't know if he even got targeted
in this game, who's a good player. Uh So you
just look at the charges can go in so many
different directions. I love it when they get now involved
in the slot. That's gonna that's a nightmare matchup for teams. Um.
And then you flip it over to the defensive side
of the ball and you see botha looking like he's
he's right back into form. So that's a major difference maker. Doug.
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When I when I look at that team and you
get in third downs and you know you're you're doing
the same thing I'm doing. You're sitting there and you're
you're calling the game and you look on the field
and you see fifty four lined up next to ninety nine,
and then you see thirty three walk down like he's
gonna blitz. That's a lot of athletes you can throw
at an offense. Yeah. Um, they ran it looked like
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kind of like a double reverse to Melvin Gordon. And
my my defense of it is, who knew Robert Candet
you would choose is that play to play hard right
and end up tackling He talk tackled Eckler, wh would
already pitch the ball and leg whips Melvin Gordon. Gordon,
I would guess doesn't play this weekend. But should they
be running reverses when they're up thirty five ten? Yeah,
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you know, look, you could tell Rivers was frustrated with it,
uh after it happened then in hindsight, but you know,
I mean, you don't need to be uh that creative
at that point in time in the game. I think
it was what ten or even it was ten, whatever
it was, it was over, I mean with with what
the Cardinals were doing, and then the Charge were able
to do whatever they wanted, running the football straight ahead,
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throwing the ball in completion. So, um, I don't know
that you needed to dust that one off at that
point in time in the game. But on the other hand,
you can't anticipate that you're gonna get an injury on it.
You know, maybe a negative play, but you're not anticipating
the injury. Yep. I I tend to agree with you.
You know, Um, it felt like an occuus play. Probably
not need to play and hopefully it doesn't appear to
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be serious, but it could affect their playoff seating, could
affect them, you know, going forward. They gotta it's a
weird thing here because they got Pittsburgh. Then you come
home in a winnable game. What is the Cincinnati or is? Yeah?
And then and then you go to Kansas City on
a Thursday night, short week, so he might not see
him until until Kansas City. Dana Jeremiah joining us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Your thoughts on Pittsburgh, your thoughts
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on Pittsburgh and that loss to the to the Broncos,
who you saw steal a game in l A the
week before. Yeah, you know, if Denver's talent has been
better than the record this year, they've been in some
close games with really really good football teams and then
you know, you can say the Chargers blew the game
if you want to, but it doesn't matter. They went
on the road and they gotta win against the Chargers
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who are a good football team. And then they're right
there at home and get win over Pittsburgh. So that's
good wins back to back. They've got a great pass
room stud He's he's been outstanding, so they can run
the football case. Keendom's protecting the ball better. Um, so
they're a dangerous team. Now the question is did they
do what the Chargers did last year, just dig themselves
too deep of a hole to climb out of. Um.
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But I don't look at that game and say, you know,
have Pittsburgh just a laden egg? I would say, you know,
Denver is a good team. But in all these NFL games,
Doug red zone defense is so huge. I've seen, I've
seen it. You know what. The Chargers win some games
because the red zone stops. And you saw the two
turnovers inside the five yard line. Uh in that game.
That's the difference in the ballgame data. Jeremiah joining us
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in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
all right, let's let's get to Jacksonville. They decided to
blow this thing up offensively. Um, Like, were they just foolish?
Did they not see it? I mean, we all seem
to believe that Blake Bortles wasn't anything great, but they
did cover up his worts for a year. How do
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we get to this point in Jacksonville? Well, I think
you just you miscalculate, you you miss calculate, trying valid
The rest of us from the outside can see it
because we didn't invest the top picking. I mean you
you we said last year, for the most part, that
team's winning. It's bite of Blake Bortles, not because of him,
But obviously they made a different assessment, and it turns
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out was the wrong assessment. Sometimes things are obvious for
a reason. He's not good enough. He's just simply not
good enough. And the other part of it is, you
know that the bar was so high for them defensively,
and they were outstanding last year. But to expect that
may turnovers and defensive touchdowns and short fields, um, that
the gifts that just kept on coming for that offense
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courtesy that defense, you can't you can't count on that
year in and year out, and and we've seen that
this year. And and for net getting hurt, right, for
getting Robinson was big. Now, Cam Robinson injury was big.
So you lose your left tackle, you lose your running back.
And oh yeah, here's another thing I brought up earlier.
Shaun Watson got hurt, Andrew Luck was hurt, and Marcus
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Mariota was hurt. Like that six games playing against backups.
Playing against backups, it's a completely different league when you're
playing against backup quarterbacks. And it's also a different league
when you're playing a first place schedule. Yes, yes, they
played last place tool last place schedule last year. So
what do you do. He's still he signed an extension,
he still got money dead money for next year, and
they draft a kid, Like, what do they do? I
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think they've got a draft one, and I think they're gonna,
you know, find themselves picking relatively high, um to to
get that accomplished if they want or you know, to me,
the number one option is, I'll try everything. I could
just see if I forgot a way to get Tad
Bridgewater in there, um, that would be my first choice.
We'll see what happens with that whole situation. But they
have to get somewhere that the answer is not in
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their building. It's not not Cody Kessler. Uh, you know,
I just hope, you know, look, we'll see how he
does over these So you can't talk yourself into that. Yeah,
So why would they make the Cody Kessler move? Is
this to save the locker room? Is that it that
the locker room has turned on Boordles? Because if you
have a new offensive coordinator, why not see how he
works with with Bordles? I just think you can't at
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some point in time, you can't look your team in
the face and say we're trying to win football games
and we're trying to get our best guys out of
the field and say, you know, hey, at this point
in time, I don't know if he can play is
a better option than I know he can't play, you know,
And that's what they've decided to do. Daniel Jeremiah joining
us on the Doug Otlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
What do the Baltimore Ravens do? They won two in
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a row, and Lamar obviously looks like the freak athlete
we thought he could running the football, but it was
also against two the worst teams in the NFL. What
do you do? I think they're gonna ride with it
for a while here until he, uh, you know, proves
he can't win a football game. So it might not
be pretty, it might not be easy on the eyes,
but you know, I think from a defensive standpoint, with
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with Joe Flacco just kind of being a sitting duck
back there, I think that Lamar Jackson and the threat
of him even running. Look what they've done on the
ground with Gus Edwards doing He's doing so just the
thread of him running plus when he does take off,
it's something you've got to worry about defensively. And I
don't think there's a lot of playmakers on that football
team that's outside of Lamar Jackson that that were you.
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So I just think they stick with him until it's
just the past and the accuracy becomes such a liability
that they can't afford to stay with it. But so
far that hasn't been the case. That's the voice of
Daniel Jeremiah, who joined us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Download his podcast Move the Sticks. We had Lane Johnson
on earlier today, and I wonder they had a great
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drive at the end of the first half. They were
trailing nineteen to three, they score, they go for two,
they come back, they win the game. Does that turn
the tide? Does that get them? Because it feels like
the Cowboys have figured some stuff out the The Eagles
have two games against the Redskins as well as on
the road against the Cowboys and on the road against
the Rams. Have the Eagles figured it out? Are they
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still kind of wondering? Well, they've still got holes, They've
got roster holes. Uh. But when I look at the
kind of the nucleus of the team and the core
of that team. And I look at the way they
are set up defensively up front, and I look at offensively.
They get healthy on that offensive line, they can win games.
And the churn suits in the quarterback plays, well, they've
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they've they've got a shot to win a lot of games.
Now they have injuries and they've got major concerns in
the back end when they play you know, legit top
tier teams. But you look at the you know, they
have three straight division games. They won the one against
the Giants. UM. Now I believe they get what the
Redskins this week, followed up by the Cowboys. So they
win these next two games, they're gonna be There're gonna
be in first place in the division. And I don't
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know how you can say they can't pull that off. Yeah,
I don't either. What do you make of what Baker
Mayfield said? You know, I'll give you quickly kind of
my take. I'm not saying that he's wrong, okay, but one,
I don't think he was talking about him personally in
terms of I think he wanted a quarterback the year
before UM and Hugh didn't pick the offensive coordinator that
he that ultimately led to him getting fired. But I'm
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not saying that Baker is even wrong. But it's not
something that when you're the quarterback, you say right that
there's a certain level of decorum, which it may you know,
it may be lame for fans to think, they think
they don't want to hear, but it's what's supposed to
be said. When you're the leader of a franchise. What
do you take when you hear him him him call
out Hugh Jackson the way he did. Yeah, two thoughts
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on number one, I think the reason for the for
for him being upset, not not the reason for what
he said, but the reason for him being upset twofold
when when Hugh Jackson we all got to see it
on hard no gratulated him. I want the number two job.
That was ridiculous. And then the second thing is when
Hugh left and he told on his media tour, was
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telling people we didn't get the quarterback playing well enough
and basically kind of penned him losing his job on
Baker Mayfield. So that's where the strained relationship comes from. Now,
should he have said what he said? You know, I
think from an outside perspective, and everybody outside that locker
room and outside that organization, it looks kind of, Yeah,
it's just petty. It's just not something you do as
the leader of a franchise. It's supposed to be the CEO.
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You know. I say all those same things, and and
I hear it, but just with my own personal experience,
Doug being inside that organization, Um, it's just kind of
like something goes wrong and it's it's a real weird vibe,
but so woe is me. It's a it's kind of
a big some uh type of atmosphere there, and he's
kind of flipped it all and he's been aggressive and
cocky and brash and uh and just kind of I said,
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it's kind of like a screw you mentality that that
he's operating with. And now it's gonna it's gonna upset
a lot of people around the around the league and
the meeting and all that. But I guarantee it plays
well in the locker room in any organization. Yeah, that
that his act always plays well in locker That's why
I tried to tell Cowherd, which is like, look, I
think he's different than other guys and that he does
understand how to win the locker room. I don't know,
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you know, long term or complete upside if some some
that times that brash, braggadocious, he tries to force things.
You know, it's the old it's the old top gun line, right,
like his egoes, right and checks that his body bodycake cash.
There's a little bit of that to him. Let me
ask you about Deshaun Watson. I think he runs. I
think he does a great job of taking over the
locker room. But I watched him run around last night
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and I think I love him. But this never ends
well for these quarterbacks. Um, what when you watch Deshaun
Watson play, what do you think? Well, I think there's
I think there's reckless moments. I don't I think the
difference between him and and we'll see if that's a
small sample size. You know, people like to compare with
Lamar Jackson's doing to to Deshaun Watson. I don't think
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that Deshaun Watson is reckless all the time. First of all,
he's a much better pass or that's that's that's irrefutable.
But the concern, you know, is can you physically hold up?
And I see him go for long stretches where he
is um, he is smart and safe with taking care
of himself, and then there's just a few reckless moments
a game. It might be the other night of you know,
three or four. In the one game earlier this year,
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there was ten or eleven where he was just you know,
we're not going out of bound and taking huge shots
on the sidelines. So I think you have to constantly
reinforce that. I have hope that he's gonna, um, he's
gonna continue to get better in that area, but it's
always going to be a concern. He just man, he's
he's he's ultracompetitive, and he doesn't have the build, you know,
like like a Cam Newton or at Josh Allen Uh
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to play quite that reckless. We've gotten to this point
where when something goes wrong for the package, it's all
Mike McCarthy's fault, right, It's all completely all his fault.
And they were a couple of throws there from Aaron
Rodgers where he almost seems like he doesn't love the
play call and I don't know, like I'm not sitting
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to hears tell you he throws it away on purpose.
But his fundamentals aren't great on some throws, and he
receives no blame. We we all believe we know how
it's gonna end, but why is it in this place?
And we actually watched them play? Well, you know, I
I want to go to the fundamentals because that that,
to me is interesting because he makes them unbelievable throws
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under durest where he's kind of goofy footed, he's off balance,
he's fading away, is both of his feet are off
the ground. Um, nothing you would ever teach, but you
kind of admire it, just that he has the talent
in those situations to make those type of throws. He's
gotten to the point where he's he's he's so poor
fun mentally when he's got a clean pocket. Um, he's
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missing some throws because of it, and I think people
are scared to criticize him for it because we've seen
so many unbelievable throws, and you'll see unbelievable throws even
in these games, but he can't have the two, two
or three misses that he had, which you just you
just can't miss those throws. So he definitely deserves some
of that blame. But I'll also tell you, Doug. Um,
you know, great offenses have scheme and skill, um, and
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I don't know that they have either and in abundance.
Dante Adams pretty good though, right, No, he's great and
n and running back there pretty good. Okay, they're okay
at running back. I think when you look at who
that second option is in the receiver game, they've got
some young players. Um, it doesn't. It doesn't ultimately scare
me when you're looking at that. Jimmy Graham has been
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a lot more name than than uh than player in
the last few years. So I don't know. I mean,
like I said, it's good. It's a good group. It's
not an elite group. And I think scheme wise is
very vanilla. That's that's that's fair. Um. Do the Patriots
have the dudes to win this thing or at least
get to the Super Bowl? I don't ever bet against
them and just watch. I mean, the bill can advantage
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they've had in that crappy division for so long. I mean,
at least the a f C. I can promise you
that because it allows them to kind of find their
groove without losing football games. And now you get to
the point where the games really matter, and and you've
gotta go through you gotta go through them. Now, we'll
see if Kansas City can hold onto their advantage um
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and and get home field advantage. But it's looking like
New England. Probably at worse, you can end up being
a two seed. And I've seen it too many times
where even as the two seed, you'll see somebody going
there and upset Kansas City, and low and behold, they'll
be at home to get to the super Bowl, and
you never bet against them there. So they're slowly but
surely figuring it out, and everybody else is chucking it
all over the place. And when everybody goes one direction,
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Bill Belichick goes the other. And and Sonny Michelle being
being healthy and running back gives him a chance to
be a power run game which shortens the game and
and puts the ball in their quarterback's hands at the
end of the game, which which seems to have worked
out for them. For the last thing, Doug, thing Doug
is just look, when we get into these big games,
is it all comes down to red zone production? Can
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you can you stop people in the red zone? And
you can you can do in the red zone. And
even though he's not the same guy he was. Bronk
is still the best red zone weapon. Brady is probably
the best red zone the red zone decision maker. No
Belichick has proven over a lifetime he's the best defensive
coordinator in the red zone. Great Stuff Daniel Jeremiah DJ
Awesome Stuff. Moved the Sticks is the podcast. Thanks d J.
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the beautiful City of Angels, Los Angeles, California. Let's dig in,
shall we? The Texans one again last night? Again again
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last night. Houston UH continues to run rough shod over
their division after a terrible start to the season, thanks
in in no smart small part to the Indianapolis co
It's deciding that, you know, we could tie, but we
prefer to lose. That's what happened when they were owing three.
They've proceeded to win that game, run off eight consecutive wins,
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and now they're eight and three and the question is
how good are they? And the answer is, if you
if you ever wondered what the Texans would look like
with competent quarterback play here you go, right, They got
Lamar Miller twelve carries hundred sixty or two yards. Got
Deshaun Watson, who also had nine carries for seventy yards,
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and he threw the ball in twenty four times, completed
nineteen of them, two touchdowns, nary an interception. I just
wanted to say nary to sound sound a little high flutant,
narry an interception. But if this is Deshaun Watson great,
the answers, now, is he bad? The answers no. But
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Deshaun Watson is pretty much what you always thought he
would be, which is he's a great leader. Guys just
like him. And that is a part that is a
part of uh of the um quantitation. Right, that is
a part of the quantitations the word I'm looking for, right,
(02:19):
Like if you're it's it's one plus two player A
plus B plus C plus D equals z. Right, if
Z is the good quarterback, he's at least part of
the quantitation in terms of personality, he has it. He
has it in factor and if you think, well, that
doesn't really play a part. If it's just dude, Jay
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Cutler can throw a football. But everyone who played with
Jay Cutler seemed to hate Jay Cutler. And you can
tell me no, they didn't, but I can tell you
that when he was in Chicago, they took his locker
and had him dress outside the locker room because they
didn't like him. It's part of it. You have to
get guys to play for you and play with you,
and he has that. But man, does he run a lot.
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And he's been hurt twice already. And when we saw
him stay in the pocket during his senior year in college,
he showed that he's not perfect. And when we've seen
him stay in the pocket in the NFL, he's not perfect.
But when you let him do both, he's pretty amazing.
The problem with doing both is it just doesn't have
(03:26):
a long shelf life. Right, he still doesn't really slide,
he still doesn't really avoid contact. He's still Here's what
Deshaun Watson is. What makes you will in fact break
you even when it's something amazing, It's it's Kobe. It's
the Kobe Bryant factor. Kobe Bryant was such an alpha,
(03:50):
such an had such an incredible mentality in terms of
believing that he could do anything in a basketball court
and no one could stop him. That it made him
really hard to live with Andy, and it made it
so that he could never take uh a secondary or
even tertiary or worse role with the Lakers, because hey, look,
if you want to play with Kobe Bryant, you gotta
(04:12):
understand he wants to take those shots when he can't
make those shots. What made Kobe Bryant great made him
so hard to deal with late in his career. What
makes Deshaun Watson incredible makes it hard to buy in
long term. To Deshaun Watson, even if what makes him
incredible in the short term will play until he gets hurt.
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There's no such thing in life. I have a I
have a friend who's an agent, right, we all in
this business have agents. And he's like, tell me, this
sixty year old agent, there isn't one. Just a young
man's game. You gotta get on a plane, you gotta
go to dinners, you gotta have drinks, you gotta smooze,
you gotta have great energy. Like once you get past fifty,
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like it feels like it's over, right, it feels like
it's over. It's the same with running quarterbacks. Athletic quarterbacks.
And before you sit there and go Doug, that's a
connotation for the black quarterback. No, Steve Young, Steve Young,
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you have to run around a lot. Steve Young's career
was cut short. But Steve Young is arguably the greatest
mobile quarterback in the history of the sport. And so
do I think DeShawn Watson is great. No. I think
he's great at what he does and fun to watch.
But no matter how many rules they put in place
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to try and protect quarterbacks, they can only protect you
inside that pocket. At some point, mobile quarterbacks have to
go out into the real world and can't protect you
from the real world anymore. Right, quarterbacks are a lot
like private school kids or parents that don't lay have
(06:00):
suits in their house. Our first house when we moved
to Connecticut, I was six years old. Get a job
at ESPN and we just bought our first house in
Oklahoma City a year ago. Year before, had done local
radio for a year, done games for a year, got
offered a job, went back and played in France for
a month and a half, came home, got offered a
job after doing the NBA Draft on ESPN radio, and
(06:24):
got offered a job up there Stull gotli show Fox
Sports Radio, and I never forget that there was three
girls that lived next door to us, and we were
kind of like trying to be like uncle's and aunts.
You know, my wife and I we had no kids.
We had two dogs, and our dogs would were allowed
to go down to their house and their kids could
(06:45):
come up and hang out our house, and so they
didn't feel like they had to have a babysitter sometimes
because we were just around and we were frankly one
in wanting to have kid mode and we just like
having kids. And they would come into our house and
out through our cabinets like little rats for candy and
sweets and anything that was a treat. Why because their
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parents limited them. And it's the it's a lesson that
all parents learned, is like, look, it doesn't mean that
you want to crack a beer with your kid or
have shots with your kids, but if you completely shut
them off to the real world, eventually the real world
will find them. And when they get to the real world,
you can't protect him from You gotta teach them how
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to how to handle the real world. Well, that's the
same thing with the running quarterback. The thing I've learned
here in the last week is confirmation that scattered reports
are mostly accurate. Can guys improve, yes, hell yes, they
become have a higher football like you. They can learn
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to work harder, to work smarter, all that stuff. But like, look,
I watched Geno Smith a fourth quarter for the Charge.
I was like, God, he was awful. And then I
go back and I remember Nolan Oroqi right in a
skutterport that was dead to rights accurate. Baker Mayfield, who
I told Colin cow Heard last year, Like, I like dudes,
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love playing for him, but he has this thing where
he feels like he has to engage in every fight.
He es basically got little band syndrome. He's got engaged
in every fight on the field, off the field, doesn't matter.
He never stands down. He always engages, and that can
rub people the wrong way. Josh Rosen, if you've heard
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any of his quotes, you've been around him, he just
has this way about him where he's really smart, he's
really talented. But man, I don't know if he leads
the locker room because he knows he's really smart, really talented.
And Deshaun Watson went where he went in the draft,
not because he doesn't have that it factor, but because
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within the pocket he's okay. Outside of the pocket, he's magical.
But outside of the pocket is like the real world.
We can't manage how many candy bars you eat in
the real world when that kid, when that private school
kid goes to college, we can't manage how let you
stay up or if you eat right, or if you study,
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you're you're on your own. And you tell me where
there's an old mobile quarterback. They just they don't exist.
And here's a guy to knee injuries in who still
can be magical. And I do believe gives the Texans
an honest shot on a shot at winning the a
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f C on a shot because they've had a defense
for a defensive front for years now. They have a
running game. You know, they got Nuke, They they have
a good wide receiver like but they've had they had
Andre Johnson, they've had Aryan Foster, they've had a defense.
The differences they have competent quarterback play and a guy
with an in factor that you want to get behind,
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but long term buy in when you're better out of
the pocket than you are in the pocket. In the NFL.
That's cool. That's fun. That doesn't last for a long time.
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mentioned that today is Tuesday of giving. No one knows
(10:22):
that better than Lane Johnson. He joins in the Doug
got Leave Show on Fox Sports raddio. You do uh
touchdowns for Children's Hospital Philadelphia, Right Lane, Yes, sir so s.
For every touch down scored this season, donations will go
to the Children's Hospital Philadelphia, something I've been doing in
the past couple of years and just overall for a
(10:42):
great cause. Here's the part that was has never been
brought up. I don't understand why you didn't get to
throw the throw the Philly Special in the Super Bowl.
Like people who know Lane Johnson when you got to Oka,
you were at quarterback, how come you don't get to
throw the pass on on Phi Philly Special? Um. I
think it's because, you know, since playing line, I like
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to cast my thumbs up. So you know a lot
of people get their thumbs broke or hands messed up
if they don't pay for heavily spat their hands. So
that's that's probably why I don't. But if I can
take that off, though, I could get it done. I
know you could get it done. I'm I'm I was
half messing with you, Lane Johnson joining us in the
Dug Out Show on Fox Sports Radio. You're a guy
that can condition out, but you can also take it
so I know guys have been tweaking you about, hey,
(11:26):
we have more fun here with New England. Um, what what?
What was that? What's the when you're playing this year
in the league. What's the general reaction to your comments
that you made during the offseason? Nothing? Really, I just
feel like, um, I've I've made a lot of people
angry and uh, I still make so many ad time
I hear it about this, so I feel like I've
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done my job. Is it? Is it in fact different
when you're the champion? Like the the shakespeare Shakespearean quote
is heavy? Is the head that wears the crown? Is
it heavier? Is it harder? Is it less fun when
you're the defending champ instead of scrapping to try and
win that championship? I mean, the season hasn't gone his plan,
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but as far as where we're at, it's it's anybody's games,
so uh, as far as us and so we have
everything in front of us. Um by a little concerned
with last year. I mean, it was great to win it,
but it also, um, I think you got to focus
in a little bit harder on the next season. It's
a you know, you're playing a harder schedule and and
by design that's it's been for you to not do
(12:29):
as well. Yeah, I mean, like, look, on paper, last
year you had those injuries, Carson obviously didn't play in
the playoffs, are late in the season in the super Bowl.
On paper, you guys should have been better. So why
is it Is it simply a more difficult schedule or
why is it that it's been more difficult for you guys. Well,
it's that I think you know, there's nineteen people gone,
you know, from last year's team to this team, so um,
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you know it makes a little bit of difference. You
got a quarterback coming off a c L injury only
this you know, second third year in the league, and
so he's still developed, us still trying to come back.
Mat um new parts on the old line. So um,
you know, far as essence and I think, you know,
hopefully we can reach our peak towards end the season
and really come on strong and and try to continue
what we did last game. For us having a balancet,
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we we as outsiders Lane Johnson tackle Philadelphia Eagles, defending
Super Bowl champions joined us in the Doug Gotlip Show
on Fox Sports Trade a huge comeback win over the
New York Giants this past weekend, UH twenty two. As outsiders,
we look and we go like, hey, now only they
lose guys, but you lost some of that offensive you know,
some of the offensive brain trust, right, you know, you
(13:37):
got one guy goes and gets a head coaching job,
another guy goes and Frank Griig is doing a great
job at Indeed, and then other guys call him plays
in Minnesota. How much of that has affected the product
in the field. Oh, that's the product of of of winning,
you know after every Super Well, it's that's how the
league works, Chris opportunities, spread the guys better for their families,
(13:58):
and ultimately, uh, you know, you have to recrup and
come back to next year. So this is the first
time we ever happened to do that. We're learning, but
at the same time, I feel confident about the teams before. Uh,
you guys are down nineteen to three, and I thought,
I'm watching this game with Brian Baldinger, who breaks it?
Breaks you guys down? Okay, Brian Balding from the NFL Network.
Lane Johnson training us and you guys, sholl only score
(14:20):
go for two and get it. But you're down nineteen
to three and you you scored a six place seventy
five yard drive. Zach ERTs catched that touchdown past from Carson.
This is end of the end of the first half
this past weekend. Is that the drive? Is that the
drive that changes the season? Oh? Definitely. I think as
far as credent energy and change at the momentum the game,
(14:43):
that was it and really going to um, you know,
going out to half time, we knew that we were
created a smallment on but you just needed to capitalized
and and came out of different team a second half.
But really can back, made some some adjustments and and uh,
you know, probably had the best best half of the
season so far. Lane Johnson joining us in the Doug
Got Live Show Fox Sports Radio. Um, didn't Oklahoma used
(15:05):
to play defense when you went to oh you what
what what what has happened there? I mean it's always
been a shootout. I mean they thought the Western India
game was bad this year. I think it was two
sist one something like that. I know it was in
the sixties and so it was putting us the same scenario.
It's just the way it is, man, um. I mean,
you're throwing the ball every time. You got some of
(15:25):
the best athletes, you know, quarterbacks, receivers, and so you're
gonna put out points. But yeah, you know it's definitely
not a no Alabama defense or anything like that. But
still when you when you have an offense like that,
you can you can win a lot of games. Yeah,
it's it's been explained to me. We had My Gundy
on the show, Oklahoma State's head coach ester Lane Johnson
the Eagles Oklahoma lum My My Gundy's explaining to me
(15:46):
in the past. He's like, look, if you want to
win in our league, you're you're just not going to
be able to stop people. Everybody spreads you out. Everybody's
got skill. It sometimes hurts us in bowl games and
in the College Football Playoff, but you have to understand
that all these kids from Texas and all these quarterbacks
and these coordinators like this is just it's a high possession,
high volume of catches and touchdowns. That's just kind of
(16:09):
the way it is. Is that a fair assessment of
why it's so difficult to compete, you know against SEC
and maybe Big ten schools in the ball games. But
you can't win your league if you play the way
that a a Michigan does, for example, in the regular season. Yeah,
I mean there's I mean there's been years well colhomicide,
DOMA defensives and whenever they do that, they you know
(16:30):
usually you know up there every year. Um, but I
just think football has evolved so much. It's all about speed.
It's all about spreading people out, having great schemes and
rail reads. It's there's there's no stopping. He's just trying
to slow down. And those teams that have good defenses
yere and you're o usually people like Alabama Cleps and
stuff like that. And uh And I don't think far
(16:51):
as recruiting, Um, they're picking up you know, Oklahoma Sweitsch
to the Jordan brand. That that's howful recruiting. I think,
throw them up and up, you know, definitely since I
left school. Uh, you know, totally new the locker room,
everything saying, So that's the rush ahead. Doug gotlip show
Fox portrayed that's the voice of Lane. Johnson joins this,
Let's let's circle back to your Eagles. You mentioned Carson
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coming off an a c L injury, and I think
fans think that everybody's gonna be you know, a d
everybody's gonna be Adrian Peterson just bounce back, and you're
here the same guy. The truth is, it does take time.
We've seen it take time for Deshaun Watson who suffered
an a c L injury, and and sometimes it it
it's you know, when you suffer the injury and how
bad the injury was. You're with this guy every day.
(17:34):
You've seen him since he started came back and started
playing the first couple of weeks this season. Is Carson
back again? Just not you can't tell me how he
truly feels, but how he looks and how it is
to play with him. Do you think he's completely back?
Probably so, just just with how he's attacked to rehab process.
I mean, you know, every day this all season, and
(17:54):
I just feel like has of seasons gone on, you know,
he's taking hits um and I thought, he's his body.
He's back where he can do that when he feels
confident and really doesn't have to worry about it. Black,
you said, though, I mean it's a it was a
ongoing process, you know, going through the preseason um trying
to get that ride. So it was just you know,
been along your form. Yeah. He's also a guy who
he didn't you know, like he dove, but he didn't
(18:16):
really slide. He's a big old dude, right, he's he doesn't.
And quarterbacks they don't want to be, especially young ones.
They don't want to act like they're soft and slide.
But you know, don't you at some point good grab
and go like, hey dude, listen, we want you around
here for a long time, so slide or if we
miss a block duck. Do you have those conversations with him?
He's smart. I mean you really don't have to tell him.
(18:37):
I mean, he knows, he knows what every right saying. Uh,
you know, he he knows, and that's something he's been
working on, just you know, being smart. There's times when
when they make that play and there's times when the
go down and let to play another one and uh,
you know he's a justing about the same time he's
a FIO competitor, and uh, you know that's what makes
you so special. With Tom Lane Johnson joining us on
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio, all right, dude, Uh,
(19:00):
three of your last five are on the road. You
get two shots at the Redskins and that means you
know Colte McCoy a couple of times here, plus you
get the Cowboys in the road, you get to take
on the Rams who are puffing their chests out. Uh
you know, because what's what what's your assessment of what
the one or two things you guys need to do
to make that final push when the division you're getting
(19:21):
the playoffs, we gotta big consistant. We're having guys coming
back from injury. You know, our secondaries destimated with injuries,
so you've got days coming back healthy that'll be huge.
And really, um, just far as open the defense out
the offenses at state balance. We have to be able
to run the ball. That opens up everything in the game.
Next everything easier. So uh, just send to keep that momentut.
(19:43):
In this game, I saw a lot of positives and
the stuff to grow on and and move off from there.
Lane's got a great foundation. You've got a pledge it
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Lane Johnson touchdown for Children's Hospital Philadelphia. Hey man, it's
a Tuesday of giving. You give your time so much
the community. We appreciate you giving us a couple of
minutes of your time here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks
(20:03):
for having me. Man. All right, that's Lane Johnson joining
us on the Doug gott Leaps Show. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show week
days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. The Jaguars had
drafted in the top five, top ten of the draft
seemingly for fifteen straight years. Eventually they had to figure
it out. And and if you think back to last year,
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were they good. Yeah, they're good defensively, but they also
were in a division where Marcus Mariotta was hurt, Andrew
Luck was hurt, Deshaun Watson was hurt. Those are the
three starting quarterbacks in your division. Combine that with an
easy schedule and with the a f C being a
(20:48):
little bit soft, right. I told you guys last year,
sat in this chair and I said, Baltimore should have
been the playoffs. The Charger should in the playoffs. Baltimore choked,
plus flac Oh at the start of the year was
coming off of back injury and wasn't good. So Baltimore
choked and the Chargers choked with their kicking game. That's
why they started out what was it owen for? Right?
(21:12):
But the Chargers were one of the top six teams
in the f C and the Ravens were one of
the top six teams in the FC. So you take
away two playoff teams and then you got Kansas City,
who I kind of we all knew the ceiling with
Alex Smith, and you really only had three possible competitors
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to other possible competitors to get to a Super Bowl.
Your division has no healthy starting quarterbacks. That's like almost
six guaranteed wins plus your talented. So they end up
getting to an a f C championship game against the
Patriots team which had as little talent as any that's
(21:54):
ever reached the Super Bowl, and they lead at the
half and they lose a game. And so this year
they kind of get exposed. Here's Michael Lombardi yesterday, former
general manager of the NFL on why the Jaguars fell apart.
We lose sight of this. We think that the Jaguars
are in the stellar franchise that have had been a
(22:16):
consistent model of winning. And yet in thirteen they won
three games, and fifteen they won five games. In sixteen
they won three, oh and seventeen they only won ten.
They didn't dominate. Yeah, they played well in Pittsburgh and
played well for three quarters in New England, but they
only won ten games. Remember in seventeen they lost to
the Forts badly in San Francisco, and this year they're
(22:37):
three and eight. So, like, I think we've kind of
gotten carried away a little bit with how good these
these Jaguars are. Go over their draft picks, stuck. Look
at their draft picks. I mean they trade Fouler away,
they've got nothing for him. I mean, look at some
of the players that they're not able to have had
top picks in those rounds that I've been able to
cash it off so accurate. Here's Tom Coughlin on a
(22:58):
Jacksonville radio station. We were a whistle whistle whistle. We're
in the Super Bowl, right, Okay, And that's my position. Okay,
So tell me, everyone out there, what they're going to
do another that circumstance about your football team, You know what,
aren't you going to fill other pieces in and try
to be as good as you can be? And we tried. Yeah,
(23:19):
well the game got us and we go back to
the drawing board and then the nature of the game. No,
you got exposed to be exactly we thought you were
exactly what we thought. We had games. We had games
even last year where they managed Blake Portles. They didn't
let him throw the football. They didn't want him to
(23:40):
make the big mistake because they didn't trust Blake Portals.
I sat here week five of last season. I don't
need God as my witnesses because I got John Ramos,
who's got a special direct line to God. I got
Ryan Music, and you guys got the tapes. Guys, did
I say they should trade for Eli Manning five weeks
(24:00):
in the season. They say that music, They say that wrongs.
You did say that. And my logic wasn't that Eli
Manning was great. It's that nobody thinks Blake Bortles is
any good and Manning is somebody that Tom Coflin will trust.
And that's all they needed. And they they fooled themselves,
and they fooled fans, and they fooled some of the
(24:20):
media thinking, you know what, Blake Bortles had turned the
corner and he was better, and like, no, he's not.
The division had no healthy quarterbacks none. They had a
last place schedule. Now you've got all healthy quarterbacks to
Shaun Watson's healthy, Andrew Lux healthy, Marcus Mariott is healthy,
and you have a first place schedule. And that's what
happens too much, too soon for them to realize you're
(24:44):
not actually playing against good teams. You're playing against teams
backup quarterbacks, and backup quarterbacks are backups for a reason.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Of course, you see DJ
(25:06):
on the NFL network. I hope you download his podcast
Moved the Sticks. Here him weekly on the Doug Gotlip Show,
and you'll hear him called Chargers games locally on the
Chargers Radio Network and inferior broadcast to the one that
being Brian Baldinger did just just one or two broadcast
cast booths over um. Okay, look, I was blown away
(25:27):
by the fact that the Cardinals just decided to quit
early on the first in the second half, Like I
hadn't I hadn't seen that one before, especially the rookie quarterback, Like,
why have Josh Rosen play? If you're not gonna let
Josh Rosen play, just let him get back there, get
rid of the ball quickly so the pass rush doesn't
affect him, and and let him learn a little bit.
But um, after trailing tend nothing. It was a really
impressive performance by the Chargers. Should I be impressed or
(25:50):
was it simply a terrible team that they beat up on? No,
I think it's a little bit of both. I don't
think you go one way or the other. Now that's
that's not a talented football team in Arizona. It's not
an iron football team. I don't think that's up for debate.
But uh, that being said, I think you watch that
from a Charger standpoint, obviously rivers with what he did. Um,
but just a variety of weapons that were on displaying
(26:11):
kiro Williams, I don't know if he even got targeted
in this game, who's a good player. Uh So you
just look at the charges can go in so many
different directions. I love it when they get now involved
in the slot. That's gonna that's a nightmare matchup for teams. Um.
And then you flip it over to the defensive side
of the ball and you see botha looking like he's
he's right back into form. So that's a major difference maker. Doug.
(26:32):
When I when I look at that team and you
get in third downs and you know you're you're doing
the same thing I'm doing. You're sitting there and you're
you're calling the game and you look on the field
and you see fifty four lined up next to ninety nine,
and then you see thirty three walk down like he's
gonna blitz. That's a lot of athletes you can throw
at an offense. Yeah. Um, they ran it looked like
(26:53):
kind of like a double reverse to Melvin Gordon. And
my my defense of it is, who knew Robert Candet
you would choose is that play to play hard right
and end up tackling He talk tackled Eckler, wh would
already pitch the ball and leg whips Melvin Gordon. Gordon,
I would guess doesn't play this weekend. But should they
be running reverses when they're up thirty five ten? Yeah,
(27:15):
you know, look, you could tell Rivers was frustrated with it,
uh after it happened then in hindsight, but you know,
I mean, you don't need to be uh that creative
at that point in time in the game. I think
it was what ten or even it was ten, whatever
it was, it was over, I mean with with what
the Cardinals were doing, and then the Charge were able
to do whatever they wanted, running the football straight ahead,
(27:35):
throwing the ball in completion. So, um, I don't know
that you needed to dust that one off at that
point in time in the game. But on the other hand,
you can't anticipate that you're gonna get an injury on it.
You know, maybe a negative play, but you're not anticipating
the injury. Yep. I I tend to agree with you.
You know, Um, it felt like an occuus play. Probably
not need to play and hopefully it doesn't appear to
(27:56):
be serious, but it could affect their playoff seating, could
affect them, you know, going forward. They gotta it's a
weird thing here because they got Pittsburgh. Then you come
home in a winnable game. What is the Cincinnati or is? Yeah?
And then and then you go to Kansas City on
a Thursday night, short week, so he might not see
him until until Kansas City. Dana Jeremiah joining us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. Your thoughts on Pittsburgh, your thoughts
(28:18):
on Pittsburgh and that loss to the to the Broncos,
who you saw steal a game in l A the
week before. Yeah, you know, if Denver's talent has been
better than the record this year, they've been in some
close games with really really good football teams and then
you know, you can say the Chargers blew the game
if you want to, but it doesn't matter. They went
on the road and they gotta win against the Chargers
(28:39):
who are a good football team. And then they're right
there at home and get win over Pittsburgh. So that's
good wins back to back. They've got a great pass
room stud He's he's been outstanding, so they can run
the football case. Keendom's protecting the ball better. Um, so
they're a dangerous team. Now the question is did they
do what the Chargers did last year, just dig themselves
too deep of a hole to climb out of. Um.
(29:00):
But I don't look at that game and say, you know,
have Pittsburgh just a laden egg? I would say, you know,
Denver is a good team. But in all these NFL games,
Doug red zone defense is so huge. I've seen, I've
seen it. You know what. The Chargers win some games
because the red zone stops. And you saw the two
turnovers inside the five yard line. Uh in that game.
That's the difference in the ballgame data. Jeremiah joining us
(29:21):
in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
all right, let's let's get to Jacksonville. They decided to
blow this thing up offensively. Um, Like, were they just foolish?
Did they not see it? I mean, we all seem
to believe that Blake Bortles wasn't anything great, but they
did cover up his worts for a year. How do
(29:43):
we get to this point in Jacksonville? Well, I think
you just you miscalculate, you you miss calculate, trying valid
The rest of us from the outside can see it
because we didn't invest the top picking. I mean you
you we said last year, for the most part, that
team's winning. It's bite of Blake Bortles, not because of him,
But obviously they made a different assessment, and it turns
(30:04):
out was the wrong assessment. Sometimes things are obvious for
a reason. He's not good enough. He's just simply not
good enough. And the other part of it is, you
know that the bar was so high for them defensively,
and they were outstanding last year. But to expect that
may turnovers and defensive touchdowns and short fields, um, that
the gifts that just kept on coming for that offense
(30:25):
courtesy that defense, you can't you can't count on that
year in and year out, and and we've seen that
this year. And and for net getting hurt, right, for
getting Robinson was big. Now, Cam Robinson injury was big.
So you lose your left tackle, you lose your running back.
And oh yeah, here's another thing I brought up earlier.
Shaun Watson got hurt, Andrew Luck was hurt, and Marcus
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Mariota was hurt. Like that six games playing against backups.
Playing against backups, it's a completely different league when you're
playing against backup quarterbacks. And it's also a different league
when you're playing a first place schedule. Yes, yes, they
played last place tool last place schedule last year. So
what do you do. He's still he signed an extension,
he still got money dead money for next year, and
they draft a kid, Like, what do they do? I
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think they've got a draft one, and I think they're gonna,
you know, find themselves picking relatively high, um to to
get that accomplished if they want or you know, to me,
the number one option is, I'll try everything. I could
just see if I forgot a way to get Tad
Bridgewater in there, um, that would be my first choice.
We'll see what happens with that whole situation. But they
have to get somewhere that the answer is not in
(31:30):
their building. It's not not Cody Kessler. Uh, you know,
I just hope, you know, look, we'll see how he
does over these So you can't talk yourself into that. Yeah,
So why would they make the Cody Kessler move? Is
this to save the locker room? Is that it that
the locker room has turned on Boordles? Because if you
have a new offensive coordinator, why not see how he
works with with Bordles? I just think you can't at
(31:51):
some point in time, you can't look your team in
the face and say we're trying to win football games
and we're trying to get our best guys out of
the field and say, you know, hey, at this point
in time, I don't know if he can play is
a better option than I know he can't play, you know,
And that's what they've decided to do. Daniel Jeremiah joining
us on the Doug Otlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
What do the Baltimore Ravens do? They won two in
(32:11):
a row, and Lamar obviously looks like the freak athlete
we thought he could running the football, but it was
also against two the worst teams in the NFL. What
do you do? I think they're gonna ride with it
for a while here until he, uh, you know, proves
he can't win a football game. So it might not
be pretty, it might not be easy on the eyes,
but you know, I think from a defensive standpoint, with
(32:32):
with Joe Flacco just kind of being a sitting duck
back there, I think that Lamar Jackson and the threat
of him even running. Look what they've done on the
ground with Gus Edwards doing He's doing so just the
thread of him running plus when he does take off,
it's something you've got to worry about defensively. And I
don't think there's a lot of playmakers on that football
team that's outside of Lamar Jackson that that were you.
(32:55):
So I just think they stick with him until it's
just the past and the accuracy becomes such a liability
that they can't afford to stay with it. But so
far that hasn't been the case. That's the voice of
Daniel Jeremiah, who joined us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Download his podcast Move the Sticks. We had Lane Johnson
on earlier today, and I wonder they had a great
(33:17):
drive at the end of the first half. They were
trailing nineteen to three, they score, they go for two,
they come back, they win the game. Does that turn
the tide? Does that get them? Because it feels like
the Cowboys have figured some stuff out the The Eagles
have two games against the Redskins as well as on
the road against the Cowboys and on the road against
the Rams. Have the Eagles figured it out? Are they
(33:38):
still kind of wondering? Well, they've still got holes, They've
got roster holes. Uh. But when I look at the
kind of the nucleus of the team and the core
of that team. And I look at the way they
are set up defensively up front, and I look at offensively.
They get healthy on that offensive line, they can win games.
And the churn suits in the quarterback plays, well, they've
(33:58):
they've they've got a shot to win a lot of games.
Now they have injuries and they've got major concerns in
the back end when they play you know, legit top
tier teams. But you look at the you know, they
have three straight division games. They won the one against
the Giants. UM. Now I believe they get what the
Redskins this week, followed up by the Cowboys. So they
win these next two games, they're gonna be There're gonna
be in first place in the division. And I don't
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know how you can say they can't pull that off. Yeah,
I don't either. What do you make of what Baker
Mayfield said? You know, I'll give you quickly kind of
my take. I'm not saying that he's wrong, okay, but one,
I don't think he was talking about him personally in
terms of I think he wanted a quarterback the year
before UM and Hugh didn't pick the offensive coordinator that
he that ultimately led to him getting fired. But I'm
(34:42):
not saying that Baker is even wrong. But it's not
something that when you're the quarterback, you say right that
there's a certain level of decorum, which it may you know,
it may be lame for fans to think, they think
they don't want to hear, but it's what's supposed to
be said. When you're the leader of a franchise. What
do you take when you hear him him him call
out Hugh Jackson the way he did. Yeah, two thoughts
(35:04):
on number one, I think the reason for the for
for him being upset, not not the reason for what
he said, but the reason for him being upset twofold
when when Hugh Jackson we all got to see it
on hard no gratulated him. I want the number two job.
That was ridiculous. And then the second thing is when
Hugh left and he told on his media tour, was
(35:25):
telling people we didn't get the quarterback playing well enough
and basically kind of penned him losing his job on
Baker Mayfield. So that's where the strained relationship comes from. Now,
should he have said what he said? You know, I
think from an outside perspective, and everybody outside that locker
room and outside that organization, it looks kind of, Yeah,
it's just petty. It's just not something you do as
the leader of a franchise. It's supposed to be the CEO.
(35:47):
You know. I say all those same things, and and
I hear it, but just with my own personal experience,
Doug being inside that organization, Um, it's just kind of
like something goes wrong and it's it's a real weird vibe,
but so woe is me. It's a it's kind of
a big some uh type of atmosphere there, and he's
kind of flipped it all and he's been aggressive and
cocky and brash and uh and just kind of I said,
(36:09):
it's kind of like a screw you mentality that that
he's operating with. And now it's gonna it's gonna upset
a lot of people around the around the league and
the meeting and all that. But I guarantee it plays
well in the locker room in any organization. Yeah, that
that his act always plays well in locker That's why
I tried to tell Cowherd, which is like, look, I
think he's different than other guys and that he does
understand how to win the locker room. I don't know,
(36:32):
you know, long term or complete upside if some some
that times that brash, braggadocious, he tries to force things.
You know, it's the old it's the old top gun line, right,
like his egoes, right and checks that his body bodycake cash.
There's a little bit of that to him. Let me
ask you about Deshaun Watson. I think he runs. I
think he does a great job of taking over the
locker room. But I watched him run around last night
(36:54):
and I think I love him. But this never ends
well for these quarterbacks. Um, what when you watch Deshaun
Watson play, what do you think? Well, I think there's
I think there's reckless moments. I don't I think the
difference between him and and we'll see if that's a
small sample size. You know, people like to compare with
Lamar Jackson's doing to to Deshaun Watson. I don't think
(37:16):
that Deshaun Watson is reckless all the time. First of all,
he's a much better pass or that's that's that's irrefutable.
But the concern, you know, is can you physically hold up?
And I see him go for long stretches where he
is um, he is smart and safe with taking care
of himself, and then there's just a few reckless moments
a game. It might be the other night of you know,
three or four. In the one game earlier this year,
(37:38):
there was ten or eleven where he was just you know,
we're not going out of bound and taking huge shots
on the sidelines. So I think you have to constantly
reinforce that. I have hope that he's gonna, um, he's
gonna continue to get better in that area, but it's
always going to be a concern. He just man, he's
he's he's ultracompetitive, and he doesn't have the build, you know,
like like a Cam Newton or at Josh Allen Uh
(38:00):
to play quite that reckless. We've gotten to this point
where when something goes wrong for the package, it's all
Mike McCarthy's fault, right, It's all completely all his fault.
And they were a couple of throws there from Aaron
Rodgers where he almost seems like he doesn't love the
play call and I don't know, like I'm not sitting
(38:20):
to hears tell you he throws it away on purpose.
But his fundamentals aren't great on some throws, and he
receives no blame. We we all believe we know how
it's gonna end, but why is it in this place?
And we actually watched them play? Well, you know, I
I want to go to the fundamentals because that that,
to me is interesting because he makes them unbelievable throws
(38:42):
under durest where he's kind of goofy footed, he's off balance,
he's fading away, is both of his feet are off
the ground. Um, nothing you would ever teach, but you
kind of admire it, just that he has the talent
in those situations to make those type of throws. He's
gotten to the point where he's he's he's so poor
fun mentally when he's got a clean pocket. Um, he's
(39:03):
missing some throws because of it, and I think people
are scared to criticize him for it because we've seen
so many unbelievable throws, and you'll see unbelievable throws even
in these games, but he can't have the two, two
or three misses that he had, which you just you
just can't miss those throws. So he definitely deserves some
of that blame. But I'll also tell you, Doug. Um,
you know, great offenses have scheme and skill, um, and
(39:26):
I don't know that they have either and in abundance.
Dante Adams pretty good though, right, No, he's great and
n and running back there pretty good. Okay, they're okay
at running back. I think when you look at who
that second option is in the receiver game, they've got
some young players. Um, it doesn't. It doesn't ultimately scare
me when you're looking at that. Jimmy Graham has been
(39:47):
a lot more name than than uh than player in
the last few years. So I don't know. I mean,
like I said, it's good. It's a good group. It's
not an elite group. And I think scheme wise is
very vanilla. That's that's that's fair. Um. Do the Patriots
have the dudes to win this thing or at least
get to the Super Bowl? I don't ever bet against
them and just watch. I mean, the bill can advantage
(40:09):
they've had in that crappy division for so long. I mean,
at least the a f C. I can promise you
that because it allows them to kind of find their
groove without losing football games. And now you get to
the point where the games really matter, and and you've
gotta go through you gotta go through them. Now, we'll
see if Kansas City can hold onto their advantage um
(40:29):
and and get home field advantage. But it's looking like
New England. Probably at worse, you can end up being
a two seed. And I've seen it too many times
where even as the two seed, you'll see somebody going
there and upset Kansas City, and low and behold, they'll
be at home to get to the super Bowl, and
you never bet against them there. So they're slowly but
surely figuring it out, and everybody else is chucking it
all over the place. And when everybody goes one direction,
(40:50):
Bill Belichick goes the other. And and Sonny Michelle being
being healthy and running back gives him a chance to
be a power run game which shortens the game and
and puts the ball in their quarterback's hands at the
end of the game, which which seems to have worked
out for them. For the last thing, Doug, thing Doug
is just look, when we get into these big games,
is it all comes down to red zone production? Can
(41:12):
you can you stop people in the red zone? And
you can you can do in the red zone. And
even though he's not the same guy he was. Bronk
is still the best red zone weapon. Brady is probably
the best red zone the red zone decision maker. No
Belichick has proven over a lifetime he's the best defensive
coordinator in the red zone. Great Stuff Daniel Jeremiah DJ
Awesome Stuff. Moved the Sticks is the podcast. Thanks d J.
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