December 19, 2018 • 44 mins
Doug explains why he’s tired of the overreaction in sports especially regarding Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and the Lakers. He also shoots down the Nick Saban to Green Bay Packers rumors. Doug talks to Greg Cosell from NFL Films about the Rams’ recent struggles on offense.
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Are
you doing? How you doing? How you doing? Merry Christmas
to you, Happy New Year to you. Everybody always waits
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in the happy New Year thing? Why why we put
up Christmas lights down before Thanksgiving? Why can't I wish
you a happy New Year. We're in We're well into
past the midpoint of December. Yeah, I'll be the guy.
I'll be the first guy to say, Hey, Happy New Year,
Happy New Year. You know a lot of things are
different when we with then we when were kids. And
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some of this is going to be based upon how
old you are. I've often I remember starting this business,
uh a national radio in two thousand three, and all
of my research I did based upon years of knowledge
and watching and also the Internet. And I always used
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to think, like, man, how hard would this job be
if I couldn't use the internet. I didn't have the Internet, Like,
how crazy would that be if I was in the
mid to late nineties and I was trying to do
a radio show and I didn't have the Internet. But
let me explain, how are it used to be in
my day? And it wasn't that long ago, Like a
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lot of this stuff is really the last five ten years.
We didn't have red Zone. In order to get your
out of market games, you're out of market games, you
had to buy one of those colossal satellite dishes, not
the little, little, acute ones they have now, these biggins.
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Matter of fact, I know the year when the little
ones came in, because it was after my first year
in college. My dad got one of the big satellite
dishes look like the look like at least part of
the Death Star or something that was on the Death Star.
And a year later they're like, yeah, you don't need
that anymore. You can get the small dish with direct TV.
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So it's kind of amazing to me how far we've come.
But there's a look there's a lot of paralysis by
over analysis. Tom Brady suddenly old Drew Brees looks a
little washed up. Aaron Rodgers shouldn't be a pro bowler. Man,
did you see those misplays and misthrows. I'm not saying
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that any of this analysis isn't accurate, but it actually
might be too accurate. You're like, what, that's the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. Okay, you know, sometimes we're paralyzed
by instant replay because the idea of instant replay is
to get it right. But getting it exactly right sometimes
exacts a lot of the enjoyment out of it, takes
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the pace out of it, just takes the feeling out
of it. How many of you have been to a
big time football game, a big time basketball game, and
all of a sudden there's a review at the most
important time in the game, And do you want to
get it right? Yeah? Do you want it to take
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Timmins to get it right? No? That's kind of like
how we over analyze quarterback play. Tom Brady doesn't throw
the ball well one week, Let's do analysis of throw
by throw. Aaron Rodgers suddenly throwing the ball away instead
of into traffic. That's how he has twenty three touchdowns
only two interceptions, but far more throwaways, far more mrs.
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I've even seen people point out look at some of
the mrs in Chicago. Now, I'm not saying that's not
good analysis. It is. It's possible we're over analyzing stuff.
Why was Vietnam such a disaster? Right Like we had
gone and fought wars on foreign soil before, we had
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gotten bogged down in the occasional quagmire before. Why was
it seen as so bad? Why because, for the first time,
on a daily or weekly basis, footage was sent in
from the actual fight and American bodies were being carved off.
It didn't the ratio didn't matter. We could kill a
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thousand of them and five of our troops would go
home draft drape excuse me, in the stars and stripes
of old glory. But seeing it tracking a war on
a daily basis, may it unfathomable, untenable, something we just
could not accept as an American people. No matter how
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much we won in terms of body count, we couldn't
win the land, nor were we really trying to win
the land. And we couldn't win the hearts and minds
because on a daily basis, we saw this footage come
back and it was too much, too much for us
to possibly take the young men, young women, especially young
young boys that should be in college were instead coming home.
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That's what's happening in the National Football League. That's what's happening. Frankly,
and Lebron James loses last night, and all of a sudden,
there's this look we we I used to wake up.
This is how I woke up as a kid. I
grew up in a town called Orange, California, in Orange County.
The actual city is City of Orange, school city. You've
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been there round withst You've been a city of Orange? Yeah,
great little downtown. Um. Remember the movie That Thing You
Do is supposed to be Erie, Pennsylvania. Right, that's actually
downtown Orange. There's a university there which is expanded, uh
ten times over. It's called Chapman University. Great school, good
film school, uh, and a good law school as well.
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And really the growth of Chapman is like the growth
of most any college. It's like five times what it
was when I when I grew up. My dad is
in was in New Yorker, and so what we would
do was we would get the l A Times, the
Orange County Register, and USA Today until the National Sports
Daily came out. Guse that was like the best website
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before there was websites. It was a collection of the
nation's best writers. And they would and we got the
late edition because we're in California, and we would open
up the newspaper and we'd pass around the box scores
and occasionally we would throw on Sports Center and that's
how we would get our news because you couldn't watch
every NBA game because on weekends up until the Rams
and the Raiders left, you could only watch the Rams
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and the Raiders when they were playing. There was Sunday
Night Football, but barely anybody watched it. There was no
Thursday night football. Monday night football was still big. The
point is you couldn't watch every game. You had to
go to a sports bar or buy a colossal uh
satellite dish, which it would take a couple of minutes
to move. And because you didn't see every game, you
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don't remember Brett Farve, Joe Montana, Dan Marino picked the
quarterback misfiring and looking old. It doesn't mean that Brady
doesn't look old. It doesn't mean that Aaron Rodgers hasn't
been wildly disappointing in spite of the fact that many
people like myself consider him the greatest quarterback to ever
play the game. None of that anawly. So I'm not
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saying the analysis wrong. I'm saying we're actually paying too
much attention to every individual throw. My own kid is
guilty of this, right, And if you've ever had a
son who is super competitive and wants to be great
at something, convincing them that, hey, man, if Steph Curry
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is the greatest shooter in the history of the sport
and he makes half of his shots, how many thinks
you're gonna make right that? But when you get so
caught up in everyone shot, everyone thro So when when
I I hear people freaking out about well, the Lakers
gotta make a move. They have to make a move.
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They got beat by the Nets, and they got beat
by the Wizards. Yeah, they also housed the Charlotte Hornets.
They had a long winning streak. They climbed all the
way to I think second place at one point in
time in the West. You know they're doing so without
Brandon Ingram, who's probably their second best maybe third best
player when healthy. Like there's a lot of really good
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you almost have to cover it. Like we used to
cover baseball. Here's how we used to watch baseball. Every
weekend before the game of the week, there was melt
Ballantine base Uh No, it's mellouh Uh what was his name?
Ramo's Melo, mel Allen, mel Allen Baseball and Ballantine this
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week in baseball, And they'd give you like thirty seconds
on each team, and you're like, Okay, I'm all caught up.
I'm all caught up. Um So look, I'm not saying
that the Lakers shouldn't go after shouldn't go after the Brow.
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That's the story that they gotta make a move today.
But it's not like because they lost in Brooklyn, suddenly
it's a sinking ship, right like lebron was what went
out in New York went out with Carmelo. Anthony was
asked about Carmelo. Anthony said something nice about a friend,
and usually what he says he actually means the opposite
in reality. Right, he's never wanted any coach to get fired,
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yet all these coaches have gotten fired. So if he
says he wants he'd loved to play with Karmelo Anthony.
That probably means he doesn't want to play with Karmelo Anthony.
Let's not go crazy. I just I feel like we're
we see too much. You know, we can even go
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back and what because every episode of Seinfeld is on.
Although most episodes of sein Felt are really funny, but
some episodes of Friends. It's better in your memory than
it is in reality. When you watch every episode on
Netflix every night, you pay a hunter million dollars his
Friends episode Friends, you know, it's crazy. We used to
just get our news on a weekly basis. On the weekends,
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we'd watched sports, We watch our local team, occasionally the
game of the week, and we took writers word for
it on how a team was playing, and sometimes we
had some stats to tell us how somebody was playing.
Now we see every throw and I feel like we
freak out. We over analyze, We paralyze ourselves, assuming that
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every every game, every past has to have a narrative,
and part of it is our own fault as the media.
It's not just that we can see more, it's that
every game is evaluated more. Lakers play last night, first Take,
undisputed coverage, Today, the jump coverage today, Tom Brady plays
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poorly on Sunday NFL Network, Fox Sports One, ESPN, all
of them, our every radio show, every blog, every every
Twitter account, every Whereas you used to write an article
and only your you would write it, only focused upon
your home area, your home team. Now it's created the
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ability for everyone to have a voice, which is good
and it's bad. And while there's a wealth of opinions
because everybody has now seen these games, sometimes we over
analyze these games and we think that we think that
a bad game means a guy's done, when sometimes a
bad game is just a bad game. So Aaron Rodgers
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misses two open receivers. I have never seen him throw.
Did you watch his first five years in the league? Right,
like the idea, the idea of well, Aaron Rodgers has
been a huge part of the problem because he's missing guys.
I'm guessing he's misfired before. I haven't watched every step.
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Is it getting progressively worse? Is there room for improvement?
Is it because of age? Is it because of injury?
Like look, Cam Newton has been an inaccurate thrower, but
he physically couldn't throw a football. That's why they shut
him down today. But but the bigger point is when
I was a kid, as much as I wanted to
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follow it on a daily basis, it was kind of impossible.
You know, you had ESPN and had your local games
and your national games on weekends. Now everything's on TV,
and everything's analyzed on TV and written about, not just
in the media, but print has become digital journalism. And
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digital journalism combined with blogs and everyone having a radio
show and a podcast, gives so many opinions that are
so timely and relevant they're almost too timely, too relevant,
too much? Am I making sense here? How about this one?
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Tom Brady was crummy the other night against the Steelers.
Steelers have actually underachieved much of this year. They had
a really good matchup. He didn't play well. Gronk has aged,
but Gronk still good at football. Tom Brady still good
a football. Are they going to get better next year
in the following year? Probably not? Are they good enough
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this year to still compete for and win a Super Bowl?
My guess is probably? How do I know that? One?
I have fifteen years of data too. They've beaten the
Texans this year, they have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs
this year, and as poorly as they played, their defense
was actually pretty good and they still could have beat
the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road on Sunday. Are the
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Lakers going to add another player? Yes? Are they gonna
add one tomorrow? Probably not, just because there's a push
to make a move. The Laker exacts are not idiots.
They've seen everyone else get pushed to making a move
before it was organically gonna happen, and usually doesn't work
out the better for the team that gets rid of
four or five players for just one star player. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap
Show weekdays in noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. He's known
as Think everyone in the regular the civilians could know
him as Mark schlaira that he joins us in the
Doug got Lips Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Mark
I I pointed out that we just cover the NFL
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so differently now with all the NFL shows NFL I've
used to be on obviously NFL Network having you know,
seven coverage, obviously radio shows. Everything we're doing at Fox
and Fox Sports one covering it so sometimes guys just
have a bad game, but because it's Monday, it's the NFL,
we go out. Tom Brady is washed up? Um? Is
Tom Brady too old to win a Super Bowl? No?
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I mean I think I think you've got to look
at a couple of things. Tom Brady is still playing
UM at an incredibly you know, high level. Now, is
he what he once was? I? You know, I would
say I haven't. I've seen a guy who's forty one
now that throws the ball consistently better than he threw
it when he was, you know, than it was twenty eight.
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But I also see a guy that understands UM. I
also see a guy that understands that I'm not willing
to take one of the teeth like you used to
be at UM. And and sometimes that might mean that,
you know, I lived to fight another day, and that's
the way it's gonna be. But in crunch situations, in
pivol games, in situations where it's an elimination game, UM,
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I'll do it. I'll take one that way. So you know,
I think Tom Brady is at a point in his
career very much like Peyton Manning was at the end
where he didn't mind taking a self sack, he didn't
mind falling on the ground, and you know, and trying
to convert a third down in eighteen that does not
bother him. I will tell you this about the New
England Patriots. You know, we all want to point to,
you know, Tom Brady and and say, oh, what's wrong
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with Tom Brady? But you know, I don't think that
Gronk looks the same as he has in past years.
I think that that offensive line has been pretty meager
um to say the least. That you know, they've been
pretty average. They've had injury issues as well, So I
think there's a lot of different, you know, things that
go on with the New England Patriots or Tom Brady.
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But it's just easier to look at numbers or look
at inefficiency. You were looking at that last drive went
you know, I think you, like me and like pretty
much everybody else in America, when they got that last drive,
you're like the Patriots, you can go down and score
and tie this game up. And when that didn't happen,
you know, we all look at Tom Brady, like Tom Brady,
He's done. I mean I've heard this for the last
four years. How done he is and all that keep
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seeing as him in super Bowls, I'm a little torn.
And here's why you bring up the Super BOWLT. They
didn't punt in Super Bowl, right, Obviously, if you're get
enough to not front, you're pretty damn good. On the
other hand, there was the same situation, that same similar
situation the Super Bowl where they got the ball back.
I think they were down five at the time, and
he got strip sacked instead of hitting James White out
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in the flat. He kind of made a made a misread. So,
you know, I just wonder if because he's been so
good for so long, we give him a little bit
extra pass when the age and and some of the
reflexes and some of the reactions, uh issues have been there.
We just we're just kind of in denial because none
of us want to call prettymature death. Yeah, I mean
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I see some of that, Doug, I would I would
tell you this, you know, it's interesting. Um. You know,
we all talk about you know, coaches and your ability
to you know, be a great coach and um and anymore.
I think it was Chuck Daly who said, you know,
nowadays you've gotta you know, you've gotta get the permission
for the players to coach them, you know, and if
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they don't give you the permission, man, you can't be
hard on him. You know. I've always looked at Great
Papovitch and we said, Great Papovitch is an incredible coach,
and he is. But a lot of that is because
he had guys Tim Duncan game permission to coach him right,
manage and over the last couple of years. And that's
the way it's been in New England to where Tom
Brady has given Bill Belichick Teddy Briskis tell me all
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the time, Yeah, Bill beliian can be like I can
get a quarterback from Foxborough High to make that throat
Tom Brady you know, you stink, you know, And they
had that permission over the last couple of years. I
think that the strain on that relationship. I think there's
been a lot of things that have gone on in
the last couple of years, or you know, from the
Alex Guerrero stuff to the Malcolm Butler situation. Um. And
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I think those things, you know, I think those things
are hard to overcome. Um as you kind of take
away that permission saying, you know, I'm not gonna be
coach like this anymore because I'm sick of it. And
I don't know if that's what's going on there, but
I think that's certainly part of what's going on there.
That's the voice of Mars slaira three time Super Bowl champion,
joining us on the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
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Has got his own radio show in Denver, of course,
covers the NFL every Sunday for Fox. Let me ask
you about the two teams in the a f C West. No,
I'm not gonna ask you about Nathan Peterman signing today
with the Raiders, or about the Broncos and what they're
gonna do uh with with their head coaching position. I
want to ask you about Kansas City and the l
A Chargers. Um. They got the same record, they split
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on each other's home field. Neither team was healthy, though
the Chargers appeared to be on the brink of getting healthier. Um.
But Kansas City is in the driver's seat to get
home field advantaged throughout even if they have the same record.
Who do you think is more likely to make a
playoff run? Um? I think the Chargers are probably more likely.
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I think as you mentioned they're getting healthier. Um Philip Rivers. Obviously,
Philip Rivers has been great. Patrick Mahomes has just been
absolutely phenomenal. Here's what worries me about Kansas City. Can
you get off the field and crunch time defensively? And
we've seen them, you know, give up fifty fifty four
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uh two uh you know, fifty four to the Rams,
and then we saw them on that Thursday night game
where they had a commanding league not being able to
get off the field and give that lead back up
to Philip Rivers. That concerns me. The other thing that
concerns me, and I think a lot of people just
dismissed this but Kareem Hunt. And I think because Spencer
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Ware came in and played really well, people dismissed the
value of Kareem Hunt. Here's my issue with losing Kareem Hunt.
That dude is accountable for four or five kind of
explosive plays a game, and in the NFL an explosive
plays people people you know, define it differently, But for
the most part, most people would would say that it's
a twenty yard past completion and in a twelve yard
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run and that guy will give you four or five
of those a game, and I don't know that they
have anybody else in their fact field that consistently gives
you that kind of production on the explosive, especially in
the past place. And so you're you're walking away from
you know, if you look at that, if it's four
or five of them, you're looking at, you know, sixty
two two hundred yards of offense and a score and
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they've lost that. And I think it. I think that
is you know, devastating to that offense in general, especially
when you have to make a play when it's crunch
time and you've got to make a play, and they
find a way to double team Tyreek Hill and they
find a way to double team Kelsey. Where are you
getting that extra explosive from? And that's the thing that
scares me a little bit about Kansas City. Um, the
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Chargers are a little bit like the Texans. Aviously Texans
had been in the postseason more, but no one wants
to buy into them in a big moment, right like
are they going to beat the Patriots? Are they going
to be somebody legit in the playoffs? Do you believe
that's changed? You know, I do. I think there's I
think one Anthony Lynn for the Chargers has come and
brought an attitude of toughness, um and attitude of we're
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gonna run the ball. Uh. They are real outside you know,
kind of outside the tight end um kind of pin
and pull football team, and they've run the ball exceptionally
well in those situations as they get Gordon back and
get him healthy again. So I think they've changed their
attitude a little bit, changed kind of their makeup to
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some degree. UM. So I think I think that part
for me has changed. And then we've just seen them,
you know, we've seen them come back in crunchtime situations
in Philip Rivers, you know, you know, being an incredible quarterback,
there's no question about it. But I just think the
makeup of this team has changed. But I've had an
opportunity to sit down with a bunch of guys on
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that team call one of their games. I just there's
a different vibe there when it comes to the Chargers,
and I think a lot of that comes from um,
from Anthony Lynn and the job he's done coaching this
football team. That's the voice of stink. Three times Super
Bowl champion Mark Slareth joining us on the Doug Gatlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. We everyone wanted to buy
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into the Cowboys, especially after they light up the Philadelphia
Eagles late and get a win. Dak struggled the first
three quarters. They don't score a point in India, and look,
I think Indie is one of the great turnaround stories
in all of football this year. I don't think anybody
would argue with that. But what do you make of
the Cowboys after five great weeks and one terrible week? Well?
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I think, I mean, I think one, it's hard to play,
you know, six eighteen weeks on a dreft wind like it's,
it's really hard to do. And when you have a
when you're a team that has deficiencies, um, you know,
and you can't overcome that with enthusiasm and adrenaline, you're
gonna have one of those games. Of course, you get
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shut out, and everybody's gonna make a bigger deal of it,
But think about you know, that's a team that's that's
been built on Hey, we've got a great offensive line,
we're control line of scrimmagers, gonna run the ball. You know,
we're gonna do those things, Um, you know, Zack Martin
doesn't play all of a sudden, Travis Frederick, you know
at the beginning that the illness at the beginning of
the year, he hasn't played all season long. Then they're
starting left guard, who was a backup at the starting
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left guard, who's really come and help solidify that in
Suaphilo gets poked in the eye and he's out and
Smith has had injuries throughout the season. So that's you know,
that's the core of what you've built your team around,
and when that's injured, you're gonna have some struggles. Um.
Then you look at the fact that you know that
to me is more of a site type of thrower. Um,
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what what's that mean? What? What's that? What's that mean? Okay,
So a site side thrower means he's not anticipatory with
the ball, like he wants to see you open. He
tends to hold the ball a little bit longer than
he should. He's not throwing it. He wants to see
you turn, look and see your eyes before he lets
go with the football. And when you do that, you
tend to hold the ball longer. You're not anticipator your
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site thrower. And one of the reasons they've given up
the second most sacks in football fifty one sacks. So
like those things, those things are hard to overcome. Um
and I still think they're a really good football team.
I think they have to understand what they are. Run
the ball, run some of the zone reads this, you know,
the zone read running plays, run some of the r
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p O stuff, and especially the red zone. They're a
bad red zone team. They need to let Doc actually
hate it's late in the season. That guy's got to
become a runner down there because that's when they operate
the peak efficiency. And so those are some of the
things that have to happen for Dallas. I still think
they're a really good football team. I think they've got
a really good defense, um, you know, and I still
think they can control line of scrimmage when healthy upfront,
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and I just think they need to lean on that
as much as Marc Larris joins us if if you
don't know his history, he was part of two great
offensive lines with the Hogs, with the Redskins when they
won a Super Bowl, and then of course with the
Denver Broncos when they won a couple of Super Bowls
with John Elway. Two very different styles of of of blocking.
Two very different styles of playing, yet two great offensive lines.
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The Rams offensive line has been kind of the untold
story of their success is there are Is there play
the reason their offense is suddenly struggling. Yeah, well that
it's part of it. They haven't played as well. Um.
I think there's a couple of things. I think Todd
Gurley um has been hurt, so he's you know, I
think he's been banged up, so he's you know, a
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half a he's a half a tick uh less decisive
than he was at the beginning of the season. I
think another issue for them is there a team that
faces out of eleven personnel three wide receivers um like
ninety percent of the time. The only time they haven't
been in eleven is on nail down situations when they've
won the game. That's pretty much it. Like it's it's
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an incredible statistic. That's what they play personnel wise. A
guy that has really hurt them is Cooper Cup. And
Cooper Cup when he tore his a c L he
was not only a motion guy a jet sweep guy
for them. He ran the dirty stuff underneath the you know,
the the inside breaking routes, from the slot. He ran
the crossing routes underneath, so he did a lot of
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the dirty work. But where he was really really like
an effective player is cutting off the backside in the
in the in the zone running game and being a
front side you know, front side blocker and that as
well from the receiver position, and they have lost that
aspect of their offense, and I think it's really hurt them.
I think the other guy that's hurt them, um also
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because you know, like I said, Todd Gurley seems to
be a little bit like a half a tick slow
because of the injuries. Malcolm Brown was an incredibly effective
backup for for Todd Gurley and he got hurt midway
through the season and it's really hurt their offense. One
of the reasons they went back out and signs C. J.
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Anderson off the street, um to give him a little
bit of a booster. But Malcolm Brown was great, let's
pick up. He's just a physical presence when he replaced
Todd Gurley and they've missed that aspect too, So they're
just a little out of sink up front has been
a big part of it. But I think a lot
of it is just Todd Gurley not being healthy and
the and the loss of Cooper Cup has hurt them
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quite a bit as well. Stake Mark Slayer at three
times Super Bowl champion, incredible analysis, Stak Merry Christmas, Happy
New Year. I will I know, I'll talk to you
before them. But I wanted to be the no one
wishes happy New Year until Christmas is over. Not here,
we wish you both, Okay, very important? Right? You know what?
And when is it right to cut off the happy
New Year? You know, the happy New Year guy that
wishes the happy New Year in March? Like, at what
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point do you say, hey, let's be let's be done
with a happy new Year. So that's a great question
because I don't know. I don't know what the answer
to that is. I think once all the bowl games
are done, right, when the when the National Championship has decided,
we it's officially been a happy new You're you know
nobody right, nobody has to worry about writing their checks anymore.
I used to write my eighteen on my checks, not
got right nineteen. So now it's after after the national
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championship is crowned. I like that, I like, you know what,
I'll go with that theories, that's the game. Anybody who
wishes me a happy New Year. After that, I'm gonna say, hey, dude,
let's move on. That's over. Thanks so much, stink. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leaps
Show week days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. In
business and in sports, you hire guys. You know you
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want to work for guys. You know you want to
work for guys because there's there, there's trust in time
spent together. And when you have a great job and
you're gonna leave that great job for a different job,
you better know who you're working for. Are you guys
aware of this story about the Green Bay hackers and
whether or not they could lure Nick Saban away from Alabama.
(29:53):
Ryan Clark is a former defensive back and a really
good analyst at ESPN. I remember when he was a
defensive back and he started to become an analyst while
still play, We're like, oh, he's gonna work here someday.
Of course, he played for Nick Saban at l s
U before going off into the NFL, and he offered up,
you know, you try to get Nick Saban to leave
Alabama become the coach. If you're Green Bay, you sell
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the farm. You sell the farm. You send everybody at Tuscaloose, Alabama,
you try and get Nick Saban to leave Alabama. When
we look at quarterback coach relationships Sean Payton, Drew Brees,
Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, there's mutual respect and and some
of this is coded messaging that we're seeing. You go
back up. What was the assistant coach we had on
last week the former packer who was the linebacker coach
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who got fired for his tweet? Uh yeah, Winston Moss,
m Winston Winston Moss said, you know, everybody's it's gotta
be the It doesn't matter if it's a offensive guru
or you know what kind of higher it is. It's
gotta be somebody that everybody respects, that holds accountability. We're
hearing enough. It's got to be somebody strong, which tells
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you that Aaron Rodgers runs the show there, right. Gotta
have somebody who can still who not only will stand
up two Aaron Rodgers, but who Aaron Rodgers has to
automatically respect. And the only way to do that, The
only way to do that is to go and get
somebody like Nick Saban commands respect because of the program
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that he built. But Nick Saban knows he could have
succeed in his mind, could have succeeded in Miami if
he had a quarterback, And Aaron Rodgers probably knows that
I can only succeed if we have a guy who's
got great organizational skills and who needs it, wants it
has to be good. My sense from business, especially the
business of the NFL, is this will never happen. Fox
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they can't protect, they can't run the ball, they can't
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throw the ball. What is going on? We need a doctor.
He's not a doct Why he should be a doctor.
He's been doing it long enough, he should be granted
doctoral status. He's Greg Cosal from NFL Films. He joins
us in the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
You you you identify problems and try and solve problems
for NFL teams. Can you identify the route of the
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problems with the excuse me with the l A rams.
I think there's a couple of things. I think over
the last month, uh five six weeks that Jared Goff
has not been as sharp. He's missed a lot of
routine throws open receivers and I think that's been a problem. Uh.
I think that there are times where teams have played
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some zone coverages against them, particularly what we call cover
four quarters, and it's caused some problems for them and
attacking it. I think their past protection at times has
not been uh quite as good. God to me is
very much a system based quarterback. Needs to be presented
to him and he needs to see it clearly. He's
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essentially dug a primary read passer. So when it's presented
to him and the primary read is there and he
gets the clear picture, he looks really good because he's
a very easy, comfortable thrower of the football. I don't
think he's seeing things quite as clearly now. That results
in him playing a little fast and uh, he's his
mechanics are a little bit off. So it's a number
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of things. Great Costell joining us in the Doug Otlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Cooper Cup isn't their best player,
but it strikes me as he might be their most
important players some of the little things he does, and
one always being a guy that golf likes to call
on to. He's actually a really good blocker. Uh. They've
used him in some jet sweep stuff like he just
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he does a lot of little stuff. How much is
the loss of Cooper Cup hurting? Well, you know it's
I think it's easy to look now and say that
that's a major factor because since he's been out, clearly
the offense has has struggled a bit. I think he's
really really good versus own. I think he has a
great feel for finding voids and for settling into voids
within the timing of the drop of the quarterback and
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the route concept, and that presents uh, he presents himself
friendly so to speak to to Jared Goff. So I
think that that factor is very important. You know. It's
funny though, this particular week against the Eagles, what really
struck me The Eagles were playing with a five nine corner,
you know, automatics and a limited cover corner and Resul
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Douglas and the Rams never really attacked on the outside,
and that just struck me watching the tape as to
why wouldn't they do that. I think when you're when
you are in that situation, you need to block it
up and you need to attack on the perimeter, and
they did not do that against the Eagles. That's the
voice of Greg co Sally joins us in the Doug
Gotlin Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM. I started
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the show Greg saying like, look, you guys in NFL
films for forty years have have had all these tapes.
Um now we can all watch all these games. And
because of sports radio and sports television and all the
different the various shows that talk about the NFL all week,
we we do breakdown not just every game, but every
throw or more thoroughly than we ever had before, which
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I think sometimes causes an overreaction because we don't have
the context. We don't have a context of Hey, I
don't know if Joe Montana missed three throws or four
throws a game. Okay, you do. You've watched this for
years and evaluated for years. Uh, Tom Brady is he
missing more now then he used to previously? And how
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does he compare to other of the older passer varieties.
You know, see when I watch tape, I'm looking at
specific games and tactics, Doug. You know, for instance, this
particular week, Obviously, because of the score, the sum action
must be that Tom Brady had a bad game and
mis throws. But you have to look at it from
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the perspective of what the Steelers defense did. The Steelers
defense actually did a number of things that they don't
normally do. So they game plan specifically for the Patriots
in many ways the way Bill Belichick game plans specifically
for opponents. They disguised a lot of looks. They double
teamed Gronkowski, Gordon Edelman at different times throughout the game,
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depending on situations. So they presented looks to Tom Brady
and to the entire offense that my guess is they
were not necessarily expecting to see. So even a quarterback
that's a great quarterback, it slows down the process and
that's just normal. So you know, we can debate forever about, well,
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he missed a throw, so that means he's losing it.
You know, I think you have to be careful about that.
You have to look at each game and look at
the tactics that are deployed by the opponent in each
game as a separate entity. How fixable are their flaws? Um, well,
let me ask you a question, and I say this, honestly,
Let's go back two weeks to that flukey play at
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the end of the game. If that play doesn't happen,
would we be discussing this. No, we'd say, Hey, they
lost to a tough team in Pittsburgh that needed a win,
and people would have given the usual garbage about the
Steelers wanted it more because they needed it more that
usual garbage, and we wouldn't be discussing this. So, you know,
it gets to your point about overreaction. I think you
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have to be careful about that. Yeah. No, you know again,
I know you agree with it, and you know that
everything will play doesn't mean that you're either great or terrible.
I completely I completely agree, And that's what happens with
It's a lot like the Pittsburgh Steelers, right liked you know,
Big Ben was hurt against Oakland. He had the kind
of the flukey interception where you know against uh against Denver,
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you know they win one or both of those games,
and the conversation about Pittsburgh is completely different. People are
too results instead of process oriented. Let let me ask
you about the Kand City Chiefs who had a big lead,
and everybody points their defense. It's easy, it's easy to
point their defense. Their offense did have a three and
out when all they needed was, you know, to run
the clock out or to get three more points at
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home and and win the game. And so I'm asking
you how different or how how much does it change
them when you'll lose a guy at running back who
led the league in rushing, Like I think they showed
that they got some depth at running back, but there
was a reason that Kareem Hunt was their starter. They
led the league in Russian. How much different is that
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offense without him? Well, I would answer that this way.
I think in the NFL, despite the belief, which is
true that you your quarterback needs to be pretty high
level for you to be a true contending team and
perhaps a Super Bowl winning type team, that it is
still a league in which balance is required at times. Now,
that doesn't mean every week you need to run at
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thirty five times, but there are times every week, normally
against good teams in particular, where you need to line
up and run the football. They struggled with that, and
when they don't then get the big plays. In the
past game, they only had two pass plays of twenty
plus yards against the charges and one was a screen.
So therefore their offense really kind of got shut down.
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And Patrick Mahomes has been phenomenal. You can make the
argument that he's the league MVP, but there's still a
looseness to his game. There's an undisciplined nature to his game.
Is he going to be the kind of quarterback? And
only time will tell that. That's when it's third and six,
will throw a seven yard pass for a completion in
a first town. Those are the plays that matter when
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you start to play against the better opponents. What did
the Colts do to stymy the Cowboys offense? Uh? You know,
it's funny you say that, because I don't think they
necessarily did anything particularly special. I think that they can
controlled at times the line of scrimmage. I thought personally that, uh, well,
let's answer it this way. I think that they defensive
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coordinator has become a lot more multiple over the last
two or three weeks. I think they've been a little
more pressure oriented. They were very low percentage blitz defense
through the first twelve thirteen weeks of this season. I
think now they're showing a little more pressure, they're attacking more,
they're more multiple with their front and looks. They're just
doing some different things over this last month that I
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think are probably causing problems. And I also think that
it was a game where some of Dak Prescott's issues
showed up. And and Dak's a very week to week
kind of player, this particular week he had his poor
lower body mechanics were an issue. He was a little
slow to eliminate and isolate, he thrust and throws on
the field, he was a little inaccurate. So there are
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times when he gets like that, and this particular game
he was in addition to the other issues they had,
and it's kind of shut down their offense. Great Costal
joining us in the NFL films Doug Gotli show, Fox
Sports Radio, what have teams done? You talked about the
lack of top end speed guy that can really scare
a d offense. But uh, it seems it seems that
the people talking about the Saints, Yeah, what's what's happened offense? Well,
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you know, I think again, they're very scheme based, with
a great offensive coach in Sean Payton and a great
great quarterback and Drew Brees, but they're not a high
level talent offense. So very often, if the schemed play
calls for whatever reason, if the timing is just off,
if maybe the past rush impacts the quarterback, whatever reason,
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if the defense actually recognizes it and takes away the
throwing lane, there can be any number of reasons, then
you can struggle. And that's what's been happening because the
reality is, and I hear people talk about this all
the time and I just don't understand it. They say, boy,
they're so talented. They're not particularly talented. They've got Michael Thomas,
who's a certain kind of receiver doug and great at it,
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but he's not a vertical, explosive dimension. And the other
player they have in the past game is Alvin Kamara,
who's definitely a dangerous matchup weapon. But beyond those two,
they're they're very scheme based. They don't have receivers that
a defense is we have to take away those guys.
They need ted gain to come back. Yeah, they need somebody.
They've they've been searching for that you know, Kendricks given
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them a little something. You know, they use Benjamin Watson's
like one of the great guys in the league, but
you know he's in his thirties. There's a reason that
that people have been able to kind of take them away.
If you have, if you have is a fair of
you a linebacker that can run. Linebackers that can run.
It changes that dynamic completely. And the reality is, um
that they have not runned the ball as well this
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year with their two headed monster as they did a
year ago. And I believe they were a top five
rushing team in the league. Um. I want to ask
you that Sam Donald Uh, people I know in the
league are really impressed by his toughness and that you know,
he's not doting, no talent, not a good offensive line, um,
but but a lot of it he's having to do
where he's trying to kind of run around and make
a play on his own. Does this help him or
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is he gonna set him back at all next year
because he's not sitting back. They're going through his progressions.
There's a final line there. I've been impressed with him
mostly because I think he sees things. For the most part,
correctly for a rookie quarterback. Uh. You know, he's a
little bit of a funky thrower. That's just the way
he throws the ball. So I had to work through
myself that the fact that he doesn't throw a lot
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of balls on balance. But I think that's just the
way he shows he throws the ball. We know, as
you said, he has very good second reaction ability. He
can improvise and make plays. I think he's willing to
make difficult throws. He's willing to turn it loose. Um.
So I think for the most part, Doug, he's had
a pretty impressive rookie season. Um. You know. Obviously it's
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been up and down at times, as all rookie quarterbacks
mostly are. But I think that he's he's been pretty
good and I'm looking forward to actually seeing him improve. Yeah,
me too, looking forward to seeing when they put some
talent around Greg Cosell. He doesn't need talent around him.
He simply delivers in a weekly basis. Great great work.
Thanks so much for joining us, Dog appreciate it. Thank you,
pleasures all mind great co sal NFL Films kind of
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to spend a segment with us every week here on
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Are
you doing? How you doing? How you doing? Merry Christmas
to you, Happy New Year to you. Everybody always waits
(00:42):
in the happy New Year thing? Why why we put
up Christmas lights down before Thanksgiving? Why can't I wish
you a happy New Year. We're in We're well into
past the midpoint of December. Yeah, I'll be the guy.
I'll be the first guy to say, Hey, Happy New Year,
Happy New Year. You know a lot of things are
different when we with then we when were kids. And
(01:05):
some of this is going to be based upon how
old you are. I've often I remember starting this business,
uh a national radio in two thousand three, and all
of my research I did based upon years of knowledge
and watching and also the Internet. And I always used
(01:25):
to think, like, man, how hard would this job be
if I couldn't use the internet. I didn't have the Internet, Like,
how crazy would that be if I was in the
mid to late nineties and I was trying to do
a radio show and I didn't have the Internet. But
let me explain, how are it used to be in
my day? And it wasn't that long ago, Like a
(01:48):
lot of this stuff is really the last five ten years.
We didn't have red Zone. In order to get your
out of market games, you're out of market games, you
had to buy one of those colossal satellite dishes, not
the little, little, acute ones they have now, these biggins.
(02:11):
Matter of fact, I know the year when the little
ones came in, because it was after my first year
in college. My dad got one of the big satellite
dishes look like the look like at least part of
the Death Star or something that was on the Death Star.
And a year later they're like, yeah, you don't need
that anymore. You can get the small dish with direct TV.
(02:33):
So it's kind of amazing to me how far we've come.
But there's a look there's a lot of paralysis by
over analysis. Tom Brady suddenly old Drew Brees looks a
little washed up. Aaron Rodgers shouldn't be a pro bowler. Man,
did you see those misplays and misthrows. I'm not saying
(02:56):
that any of this analysis isn't accurate, but it actually
might be too accurate. You're like, what, that's the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. Okay, you know, sometimes we're paralyzed
by instant replay because the idea of instant replay is
to get it right. But getting it exactly right sometimes
exacts a lot of the enjoyment out of it, takes
(03:18):
the pace out of it, just takes the feeling out
of it. How many of you have been to a
big time football game, a big time basketball game, and
all of a sudden there's a review at the most
important time in the game, And do you want to
get it right? Yeah? Do you want it to take
(03:40):
Timmins to get it right? No? That's kind of like
how we over analyze quarterback play. Tom Brady doesn't throw
the ball well one week, Let's do analysis of throw
by throw. Aaron Rodgers suddenly throwing the ball away instead
of into traffic. That's how he has twenty three touchdowns
only two interceptions, but far more throwaways, far more mrs.
(04:03):
I've even seen people point out look at some of
the mrs in Chicago. Now, I'm not saying that's not
good analysis. It is. It's possible we're over analyzing stuff.
Why was Vietnam such a disaster? Right Like we had
gone and fought wars on foreign soil before, we had
(04:24):
gotten bogged down in the occasional quagmire before. Why was
it seen as so bad? Why because, for the first time,
on a daily or weekly basis, footage was sent in
from the actual fight and American bodies were being carved off.
It didn't the ratio didn't matter. We could kill a
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thousand of them and five of our troops would go
home draft drape excuse me, in the stars and stripes
of old glory. But seeing it tracking a war on
a daily basis, may it unfathomable, untenable, something we just
could not accept as an American people. No matter how
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much we won in terms of body count, we couldn't
win the land, nor were we really trying to win
the land. And we couldn't win the hearts and minds
because on a daily basis, we saw this footage come
back and it was too much, too much for us
to possibly take the young men, young women, especially young
young boys that should be in college were instead coming home.
(05:36):
That's what's happening in the National Football League. That's what's happening. Frankly,
and Lebron James loses last night, and all of a sudden,
there's this look we we I used to wake up.
This is how I woke up as a kid. I
grew up in a town called Orange, California, in Orange County.
The actual city is City of Orange, school city. You've
(05:57):
been there round withst You've been a city of Orange? Yeah,
great little downtown. Um. Remember the movie That Thing You
Do is supposed to be Erie, Pennsylvania. Right, that's actually
downtown Orange. There's a university there which is expanded, uh
ten times over. It's called Chapman University. Great school, good
film school, uh, and a good law school as well.
(06:19):
And really the growth of Chapman is like the growth
of most any college. It's like five times what it
was when I when I grew up. My dad is
in was in New Yorker, and so what we would
do was we would get the l A Times, the
Orange County Register, and USA Today until the National Sports
Daily came out. Guse that was like the best website
(06:42):
before there was websites. It was a collection of the
nation's best writers. And they would and we got the
late edition because we're in California, and we would open
up the newspaper and we'd pass around the box scores
and occasionally we would throw on Sports Center and that's
how we would get our news because you couldn't watch
every NBA game because on weekends up until the Rams
and the Raiders left, you could only watch the Rams
(07:03):
and the Raiders when they were playing. There was Sunday
Night Football, but barely anybody watched it. There was no
Thursday night football. Monday night football was still big. The
point is you couldn't watch every game. You had to
go to a sports bar or buy a colossal uh
satellite dish, which it would take a couple of minutes
to move. And because you didn't see every game, you
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don't remember Brett Farve, Joe Montana, Dan Marino picked the
quarterback misfiring and looking old. It doesn't mean that Brady
doesn't look old. It doesn't mean that Aaron Rodgers hasn't
been wildly disappointing in spite of the fact that many
people like myself consider him the greatest quarterback to ever
play the game. None of that anawly. So I'm not
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saying the analysis wrong. I'm saying we're actually paying too
much attention to every individual throw. My own kid is
guilty of this, right, And if you've ever had a
son who is super competitive and wants to be great
at something, convincing them that, hey, man, if Steph Curry
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is the greatest shooter in the history of the sport
and he makes half of his shots, how many thinks
you're gonna make right that? But when you get so
caught up in everyone shot, everyone thro So when when
I I hear people freaking out about well, the Lakers
gotta make a move. They have to make a move.
(08:30):
They got beat by the Nets, and they got beat
by the Wizards. Yeah, they also housed the Charlotte Hornets.
They had a long winning streak. They climbed all the
way to I think second place at one point in
time in the West. You know they're doing so without
Brandon Ingram, who's probably their second best maybe third best
player when healthy. Like there's a lot of really good
(08:53):
you almost have to cover it. Like we used to
cover baseball. Here's how we used to watch baseball. Every
weekend before the game of the week, there was melt
Ballantine base Uh No, it's mellouh Uh what was his name?
Ramo's Melo, mel Allen, mel Allen Baseball and Ballantine this
(09:14):
week in baseball, And they'd give you like thirty seconds
on each team, and you're like, Okay, I'm all caught up.
I'm all caught up. Um So look, I'm not saying
that the Lakers shouldn't go after shouldn't go after the Brow.
(09:37):
That's the story that they gotta make a move today.
But it's not like because they lost in Brooklyn, suddenly
it's a sinking ship, right like lebron was what went
out in New York went out with Carmelo. Anthony was
asked about Carmelo. Anthony said something nice about a friend,
and usually what he says he actually means the opposite
in reality. Right, he's never wanted any coach to get fired,
(10:01):
yet all these coaches have gotten fired. So if he
says he wants he'd loved to play with Karmelo Anthony.
That probably means he doesn't want to play with Karmelo Anthony.
Let's not go crazy. I just I feel like we're
we see too much. You know, we can even go
(10:21):
back and what because every episode of Seinfeld is on.
Although most episodes of sein Felt are really funny, but
some episodes of Friends. It's better in your memory than
it is in reality. When you watch every episode on
Netflix every night, you pay a hunter million dollars his
Friends episode Friends, you know, it's crazy. We used to
just get our news on a weekly basis. On the weekends,
(10:43):
we'd watched sports, We watch our local team, occasionally the
game of the week, and we took writers word for
it on how a team was playing, and sometimes we
had some stats to tell us how somebody was playing.
Now we see every throw and I feel like we
freak out. We over analyze, We paralyze ourselves, assuming that
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every every game, every past has to have a narrative,
and part of it is our own fault as the media.
It's not just that we can see more, it's that
every game is evaluated more. Lakers play last night, first Take,
undisputed coverage, Today, the jump coverage today, Tom Brady plays
(11:25):
poorly on Sunday NFL Network, Fox Sports One, ESPN, all
of them, our every radio show, every blog, every every
Twitter account, every Whereas you used to write an article
and only your you would write it, only focused upon
your home area, your home team. Now it's created the
(11:46):
ability for everyone to have a voice, which is good
and it's bad. And while there's a wealth of opinions
because everybody has now seen these games, sometimes we over
analyze these games and we think that we think that
a bad game means a guy's done, when sometimes a
bad game is just a bad game. So Aaron Rodgers
(12:08):
misses two open receivers. I have never seen him throw.
Did you watch his first five years in the league? Right,
like the idea, the idea of well, Aaron Rodgers has
been a huge part of the problem because he's missing guys.
I'm guessing he's misfired before. I haven't watched every step.
(12:30):
Is it getting progressively worse? Is there room for improvement?
Is it because of age? Is it because of injury?
Like look, Cam Newton has been an inaccurate thrower, but
he physically couldn't throw a football. That's why they shut
him down today. But but the bigger point is when
I was a kid, as much as I wanted to
(12:51):
follow it on a daily basis, it was kind of impossible.
You know, you had ESPN and had your local games
and your national games on weekends. Now everything's on TV,
and everything's analyzed on TV and written about, not just
in the media, but print has become digital journalism. And
(13:12):
digital journalism combined with blogs and everyone having a radio
show and a podcast, gives so many opinions that are
so timely and relevant they're almost too timely, too relevant,
too much? Am I making sense here? How about this one?
(13:33):
Tom Brady was crummy the other night against the Steelers.
Steelers have actually underachieved much of this year. They had
a really good matchup. He didn't play well. Gronk has aged,
but Gronk still good at football. Tom Brady still good
a football. Are they going to get better next year
in the following year? Probably not? Are they good enough
(13:56):
this year to still compete for and win a Super Bowl?
My guess is probably? How do I know that? One?
I have fifteen years of data too. They've beaten the
Texans this year, they have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs
this year, and as poorly as they played, their defense
was actually pretty good and they still could have beat
the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road on Sunday. Are the
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Lakers going to add another player? Yes? Are they gonna
add one tomorrow? Probably not, just because there's a push
to make a move. The Laker exacts are not idiots.
They've seen everyone else get pushed to making a move
before it was organically gonna happen, and usually doesn't work
out the better for the team that gets rid of
four or five players for just one star player. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Doug dot Leap
Show weekdays in noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. He's known
as Think everyone in the regular the civilians could know
him as Mark schlaira that he joins us in the
Doug got Lips Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Mark
I I pointed out that we just cover the NFL
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so differently now with all the NFL shows NFL I've
used to be on obviously NFL Network having you know,
seven coverage, obviously radio shows. Everything we're doing at Fox
and Fox Sports one covering it so sometimes guys just
have a bad game, but because it's Monday, it's the NFL,
we go out. Tom Brady is washed up? Um? Is
Tom Brady too old to win a Super Bowl? No?
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I mean I think I think you've got to look
at a couple of things. Tom Brady is still playing
UM at an incredibly you know, high level. Now, is
he what he once was? I? You know, I would
say I haven't. I've seen a guy who's forty one
now that throws the ball consistently better than he threw
it when he was, you know, than it was twenty eight.
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But I also see a guy that understands UM. I
also see a guy that understands that I'm not willing
to take one of the teeth like you used to
be at UM. And and sometimes that might mean that,
you know, I lived to fight another day, and that's
the way it's gonna be. But in crunch situations, in
pivol games, in situations where it's an elimination game, UM,
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I'll do it. I'll take one that way. So you know,
I think Tom Brady is at a point in his
career very much like Peyton Manning was at the end
where he didn't mind taking a self sack, he didn't
mind falling on the ground, and you know, and trying
to convert a third down in eighteen that does not
bother him. I will tell you this about the New
England Patriots. You know, we all want to point to,
you know, Tom Brady and and say, oh, what's wrong
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with Tom Brady? But you know, I don't think that
Gronk looks the same as he has in past years.
I think that that offensive line has been pretty meager
um to say the least. That you know, they've been
pretty average. They've had injury issues as well, So I
think there's a lot of different, you know, things that
go on with the New England Patriots or Tom Brady.
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But it's just easier to look at numbers or look
at inefficiency. You were looking at that last drive went
you know, I think you, like me and like pretty
much everybody else in America, when they got that last drive,
you're like the Patriots, you can go down and score
and tie this game up. And when that didn't happen,
you know, we all look at Tom Brady, like Tom Brady,
He's done. I mean I've heard this for the last
four years. How done he is and all that keep
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seeing as him in super Bowls, I'm a little torn.
And here's why you bring up the Super BOWLT. They
didn't punt in Super Bowl, right, Obviously, if you're get
enough to not front, you're pretty damn good. On the
other hand, there was the same situation, that same similar
situation the Super Bowl where they got the ball back.
I think they were down five at the time, and
he got strip sacked instead of hitting James White out
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in the flat. He kind of made a made a misread. So,
you know, I just wonder if because he's been so
good for so long, we give him a little bit
extra pass when the age and and some of the
reflexes and some of the reactions, uh issues have been there.
We just we're just kind of in denial because none
of us want to call prettymature death. Yeah, I mean
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I see some of that, Doug, I would I would
tell you this, you know, it's interesting. Um. You know,
we all talk about you know, coaches and your ability
to you know, be a great coach and um and anymore.
I think it was Chuck Daly who said, you know,
nowadays you've gotta you know, you've gotta get the permission
for the players to coach them, you know, and if
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they don't give you the permission, man, you can't be
hard on him. You know. I've always looked at Great
Papovitch and we said, Great Papovitch is an incredible coach,
and he is. But a lot of that is because
he had guys Tim Duncan game permission to coach him right,
manage and over the last couple of years. And that's
the way it's been in New England to where Tom
Brady has given Bill Belichick Teddy Briskis tell me all
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the time, Yeah, Bill beliian can be like I can
get a quarterback from Foxborough High to make that throat
Tom Brady you know, you stink, you know, And they
had that permission over the last couple of years. I
think that the strain on that relationship. I think there's
been a lot of things that have gone on in
the last couple of years, or you know, from the
Alex Guerrero stuff to the Malcolm Butler situation. Um. And
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I think those things, you know, I think those things
are hard to overcome. Um as you kind of take
away that permission saying, you know, I'm not gonna be
coach like this anymore because I'm sick of it. And
I don't know if that's what's going on there, but
I think that's certainly part of what's going on there.
That's the voice of Mars slaira three time Super Bowl champion,
joining us on the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
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Has got his own radio show in Denver, of course,
covers the NFL every Sunday for Fox. Let me ask
you about the two teams in the a f C West. No,
I'm not gonna ask you about Nathan Peterman signing today
with the Raiders, or about the Broncos and what they're
gonna do uh with with their head coaching position. I
want to ask you about Kansas City and the l
A Chargers. Um. They got the same record, they split
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on each other's home field. Neither team was healthy, though
the Chargers appeared to be on the brink of getting healthier. Um.
But Kansas City is in the driver's seat to get
home field advantaged throughout even if they have the same record.
Who do you think is more likely to make a
playoff run? Um? I think the Chargers are probably more likely.
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I think as you mentioned they're getting healthier. Um Philip Rivers. Obviously,
Philip Rivers has been great. Patrick Mahomes has just been
absolutely phenomenal. Here's what worries me about Kansas City. Can
you get off the field and crunch time defensively? And
we've seen them, you know, give up fifty fifty four
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uh two uh you know, fifty four to the Rams,
and then we saw them on that Thursday night game
where they had a commanding league not being able to
get off the field and give that lead back up
to Philip Rivers. That concerns me. The other thing that
concerns me, and I think a lot of people just
dismissed this but Kareem Hunt. And I think because Spencer
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Ware came in and played really well, people dismissed the
value of Kareem Hunt. Here's my issue with losing Kareem Hunt.
That dude is accountable for four or five kind of
explosive plays a game, and in the NFL an explosive
plays people people you know, define it differently, But for
the most part, most people would would say that it's
a twenty yard past completion and in a twelve yard
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run and that guy will give you four or five
of those a game, and I don't know that they
have anybody else in their fact field that consistently gives
you that kind of production on the explosive, especially in
the past place. And so you're you're walking away from
you know, if you look at that, if it's four
or five of them, you're looking at, you know, sixty
two two hundred yards of offense and a score and
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they've lost that. And I think it. I think that
is you know, devastating to that offense in general, especially
when you have to make a play when it's crunch
time and you've got to make a play, and they
find a way to double team Tyreek Hill and they
find a way to double team Kelsey. Where are you
getting that extra explosive from? And that's the thing that
scares me a little bit about Kansas City. Um, the
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Chargers are a little bit like the Texans. Aviously Texans
had been in the postseason more, but no one wants
to buy into them in a big moment, right like
are they going to beat the Patriots? Are they going
to be somebody legit in the playoffs? Do you believe
that's changed? You know, I do. I think there's I
think one Anthony Lynn for the Chargers has come and
brought an attitude of toughness, um and attitude of we're
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gonna run the ball. Uh. They are real outside you know,
kind of outside the tight end um kind of pin
and pull football team, and they've run the ball exceptionally
well in those situations as they get Gordon back and
get him healthy again. So I think they've changed their
attitude a little bit, changed kind of their makeup to
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some degree. UM. So I think I think that part
for me has changed. And then we've just seen them,
you know, we've seen them come back in crunchtime situations
in Philip Rivers, you know, you know, being an incredible quarterback,
there's no question about it. But I just think the
makeup of this team has changed. But I've had an
opportunity to sit down with a bunch of guys on
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that team call one of their games. I just there's
a different vibe there when it comes to the Chargers,
and I think a lot of that comes from um,
from Anthony Lynn and the job he's done coaching this
football team. That's the voice of stink. Three times Super
Bowl champion Mark Slareth joining us on the Doug Gatlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. We everyone wanted to buy
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into the Cowboys, especially after they light up the Philadelphia
Eagles late and get a win. Dak struggled the first
three quarters. They don't score a point in India, and look,
I think Indie is one of the great turnaround stories
in all of football this year. I don't think anybody
would argue with that. But what do you make of
the Cowboys after five great weeks and one terrible week? Well?
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I think, I mean, I think one, it's hard to play,
you know, six eighteen weeks on a dreft wind like it's,
it's really hard to do. And when you have a
when you're a team that has deficiencies, um, you know,
and you can't overcome that with enthusiasm and adrenaline, you're
gonna have one of those games. Of course, you get
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shut out, and everybody's gonna make a bigger deal of it,
But think about you know, that's a team that's that's
been built on Hey, we've got a great offensive line,
we're control line of scrimmagers, gonna run the ball. You know,
we're gonna do those things, Um, you know, Zack Martin
doesn't play all of a sudden, Travis Frederick, you know
at the beginning that the illness at the beginning of
the year, he hasn't played all season long. Then they're
starting left guard, who was a backup at the starting
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left guard, who's really come and help solidify that in
Suaphilo gets poked in the eye and he's out and
Smith has had injuries throughout the season. So that's you know,
that's the core of what you've built your team around,
and when that's injured, you're gonna have some struggles. Um.
Then you look at the fact that you know that
to me is more of a site type of thrower. Um,
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what what's that mean? What? What's that? What's that mean? Okay,
So a site side thrower means he's not anticipatory with
the ball, like he wants to see you open. He
tends to hold the ball a little bit longer than
he should. He's not throwing it. He wants to see
you turn, look and see your eyes before he lets
go with the football. And when you do that, you
tend to hold the ball longer. You're not anticipator your
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site thrower. And one of the reasons they've given up
the second most sacks in football fifty one sacks. So
like those things, those things are hard to overcome. Um
and I still think they're a really good football team.
I think they have to understand what they are. Run
the ball, run some of the zone reads this, you know,
the zone read running plays, run some of the r
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p O stuff, and especially the red zone. They're a
bad red zone team. They need to let Doc actually
hate it's late in the season. That guy's got to
become a runner down there because that's when they operate
the peak efficiency. And so those are some of the
things that have to happen for Dallas. I still think
they're a really good football team. I think they've got
a really good defense, um, you know, and I still
think they can control line of scrimmage when healthy upfront,
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and I just think they need to lean on that
as much as Marc Larris joins us if if you
don't know his history, he was part of two great
offensive lines with the Hogs, with the Redskins when they
won a Super Bowl, and then of course with the
Denver Broncos when they won a couple of Super Bowls
with John Elway. Two very different styles of of of blocking.
Two very different styles of playing, yet two great offensive lines.
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The Rams offensive line has been kind of the untold
story of their success is there are Is there play
the reason their offense is suddenly struggling. Yeah, well that
it's part of it. They haven't played as well. Um.
I think there's a couple of things. I think Todd
Gurley um has been hurt, so he's you know, I
think he's been banged up, so he's you know, a
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half a he's a half a tick uh less decisive
than he was at the beginning of the season. I
think another issue for them is there a team that
faces out of eleven personnel three wide receivers um like
ninety percent of the time. The only time they haven't
been in eleven is on nail down situations when they've
won the game. That's pretty much it. Like it's it's
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an incredible statistic. That's what they play personnel wise. A
guy that has really hurt them is Cooper Cup. And
Cooper Cup when he tore his a c L he
was not only a motion guy a jet sweep guy
for them. He ran the dirty stuff underneath the you know,
the the inside breaking routes, from the slot. He ran
the crossing routes underneath, so he did a lot of
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the dirty work. But where he was really really like
an effective player is cutting off the backside in the
in the in the zone running game and being a
front side you know, front side blocker and that as
well from the receiver position, and they have lost that
aspect of their offense, and I think it's really hurt them.
I think the other guy that's hurt them, um also
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because you know, like I said, Todd Gurley seems to
be a little bit like a half a tick slow
because of the injuries. Malcolm Brown was an incredibly effective
backup for for Todd Gurley and he got hurt midway
through the season and it's really hurt their offense. One
of the reasons they went back out and signs C. J.
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Anderson off the street, um to give him a little
bit of a booster. But Malcolm Brown was great, let's
pick up. He's just a physical presence when he replaced
Todd Gurley and they've missed that aspect too, So they're
just a little out of sink up front has been
a big part of it. But I think a lot
of it is just Todd Gurley not being healthy and
the and the loss of Cooper Cup has hurt them
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quite a bit as well. Stake Mark Slayer at three
times Super Bowl champion, incredible analysis, Stak Merry Christmas, Happy
New Year. I will I know, I'll talk to you
before them. But I wanted to be the no one
wishes happy New Year until Christmas is over. Not here,
we wish you both, Okay, very important? Right? You know what?
And when is it right to cut off the happy
New Year? You know, the happy New Year guy that
wishes the happy New Year in March? Like, at what
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point do you say, hey, let's be let's be done
with a happy new Year. So that's a great question
because I don't know. I don't know what the answer
to that is. I think once all the bowl games
are done, right, when the when the National Championship has decided,
we it's officially been a happy new You're you know
nobody right, nobody has to worry about writing their checks anymore.
I used to write my eighteen on my checks, not
got right nineteen. So now it's after after the national
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championship is crowned. I like that, I like, you know what,
I'll go with that theories, that's the game. Anybody who
wishes me a happy New Year. After that, I'm gonna say, hey, dude,
let's move on. That's over. Thanks so much, stink. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leaps
Show week days in noon eastern three pm Pacific. In
business and in sports, you hire guys. You know you
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want to work for guys. You know you want to
work for guys because there's there, there's trust in time
spent together. And when you have a great job and
you're gonna leave that great job for a different job,
you better know who you're working for. Are you guys
aware of this story about the Green Bay hackers and
whether or not they could lure Nick Saban away from Alabama.
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Ryan Clark is a former defensive back and a really
good analyst at ESPN. I remember when he was a
defensive back and he started to become an analyst while
still play, We're like, oh, he's gonna work here someday.
Of course, he played for Nick Saban at l s
U before going off into the NFL, and he offered up,
you know, you try to get Nick Saban to leave
Alabama become the coach. If you're Green Bay, you sell
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the farm. You sell the farm. You send everybody at Tuscaloose, Alabama,
you try and get Nick Saban to leave Alabama. When
we look at quarterback coach relationships Sean Payton, Drew Brees,
Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, there's mutual respect and and some
of this is coded messaging that we're seeing. You go
back up. What was the assistant coach we had on
last week the former packer who was the linebacker coach
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who got fired for his tweet? Uh yeah, Winston Moss,
m Winston Winston Moss said, you know, everybody's it's gotta
be the It doesn't matter if it's a offensive guru
or you know what kind of higher it is. It's
gotta be somebody that everybody respects, that holds accountability. We're
hearing enough. It's got to be somebody strong, which tells
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you that Aaron Rodgers runs the show there, right. Gotta
have somebody who can still who not only will stand
up two Aaron Rodgers, but who Aaron Rodgers has to
automatically respect. And the only way to do that, The
only way to do that is to go and get
somebody like Nick Saban commands respect because of the program
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that he built. But Nick Saban knows he could have
succeed in his mind, could have succeeded in Miami if
he had a quarterback, And Aaron Rodgers probably knows that
I can only succeed if we have a guy who's
got great organizational skills and who needs it, wants it
has to be good. My sense from business, especially the
business of the NFL, is this will never happen. Fox
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s R to listen live. What happened to the Rams? Offense?
Greatest show on now Natural turf Right and Awls. And
they can't protect, they can't run the ball, they can't
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throw the ball. What is going on? We need a doctor.
He's not a doct Why he should be a doctor.
He's been doing it long enough, he should be granted
doctoral status. He's Greg Cosal from NFL Films. He joins
us in the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
You you you identify problems and try and solve problems
for NFL teams. Can you identify the route of the
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problems with the excuse me with the l A rams.
I think there's a couple of things. I think over
the last month, uh five six weeks that Jared Goff
has not been as sharp. He's missed a lot of
routine throws open receivers and I think that's been a problem. Uh.
I think that there are times where teams have played
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some zone coverages against them, particularly what we call cover
four quarters, and it's caused some problems for them and
attacking it. I think their past protection at times has
not been uh quite as good. God to me is
very much a system based quarterback. Needs to be presented
to him and he needs to see it clearly. He's
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essentially dug a primary read passer. So when it's presented
to him and the primary read is there and he
gets the clear picture, he looks really good because he's
a very easy, comfortable thrower of the football. I don't
think he's seeing things quite as clearly now. That results
in him playing a little fast and uh, he's his
mechanics are a little bit off. So it's a number
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of things. Great Costell joining us in the Doug Otlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Cooper Cup isn't their best player,
but it strikes me as he might be their most
important players some of the little things he does, and
one always being a guy that golf likes to call
on to. He's actually a really good blocker. Uh. They've
used him in some jet sweep stuff like he just
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he does a lot of little stuff. How much is
the loss of Cooper Cup hurting? Well, you know it's
I think it's easy to look now and say that
that's a major factor because since he's been out, clearly
the offense has has struggled a bit. I think he's
really really good versus own. I think he has a
great feel for finding voids and for settling into voids
within the timing of the drop of the quarterback and
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the route concept, and that presents uh, he presents himself
friendly so to speak to to Jared Goff. So I
think that that factor is very important. You know. It's
funny though, this particular week against the Eagles, what really
struck me The Eagles were playing with a five nine corner,
you know, automatics and a limited cover corner and Resul
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Douglas and the Rams never really attacked on the outside,
and that just struck me watching the tape as to
why wouldn't they do that. I think when you're when
you are in that situation, you need to block it
up and you need to attack on the perimeter, and
they did not do that against the Eagles. That's the
voice of Greg co Sally joins us in the Doug
Gotlin Show here on Fox Sports Radio. UM. I started
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the show Greg saying like, look, you guys in NFL
films for forty years have have had all these tapes.
Um now we can all watch all these games. And
because of sports radio and sports television and all the
different the various shows that talk about the NFL all week,
we we do breakdown not just every game, but every
throw or more thoroughly than we ever had before, which
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I think sometimes causes an overreaction because we don't have
the context. We don't have a context of Hey, I
don't know if Joe Montana missed three throws or four
throws a game. Okay, you do. You've watched this for
years and evaluated for years. Uh, Tom Brady is he
missing more now then he used to previously? And how
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does he compare to other of the older passer varieties.
You know, see when I watch tape, I'm looking at
specific games and tactics, Doug. You know, for instance, this
particular week, Obviously, because of the score, the sum action
must be that Tom Brady had a bad game and
mis throws. But you have to look at it from
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the perspective of what the Steelers defense did. The Steelers
defense actually did a number of things that they don't
normally do. So they game plan specifically for the Patriots
in many ways the way Bill Belichick game plans specifically
for opponents. They disguised a lot of looks. They double
teamed Gronkowski, Gordon Edelman at different times throughout the game,
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depending on situations. So they presented looks to Tom Brady
and to the entire offense that my guess is they
were not necessarily expecting to see. So even a quarterback
that's a great quarterback, it slows down the process and
that's just normal. So you know, we can debate forever about, well,
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he missed a throw, so that means he's losing it.
You know, I think you have to be careful about that.
You have to look at each game and look at
the tactics that are deployed by the opponent in each
game as a separate entity. How fixable are their flaws? Um, well,
let me ask you a question, and I say this, honestly,
Let's go back two weeks to that flukey play at
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the end of the game. If that play doesn't happen,
would we be discussing this. No, we'd say, Hey, they
lost to a tough team in Pittsburgh that needed a win,
and people would have given the usual garbage about the
Steelers wanted it more because they needed it more that
usual garbage, and we wouldn't be discussing this. So, you know,
it gets to your point about overreaction. I think you
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have to be careful about that. Yeah. No, you know again,
I know you agree with it, and you know that
everything will play doesn't mean that you're either great or terrible.
I completely I completely agree, And that's what happens with
It's a lot like the Pittsburgh Steelers, right liked you know,
Big Ben was hurt against Oakland. He had the kind
of the flukey interception where you know against uh against Denver,
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you know they win one or both of those games,
and the conversation about Pittsburgh is completely different. People are
too results instead of process oriented. Let let me ask
you about the Kand City Chiefs who had a big lead,
and everybody points their defense. It's easy, it's easy to
point their defense. Their offense did have a three and
out when all they needed was, you know, to run
the clock out or to get three more points at
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home and and win the game. And so I'm asking
you how different or how how much does it change
them when you'll lose a guy at running back who
led the league in rushing, Like I think they showed
that they got some depth at running back, but there
was a reason that Kareem Hunt was their starter. They
led the league in Russian. How much different is that
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offense without him? Well, I would answer that this way.
I think in the NFL, despite the belief, which is
true that you your quarterback needs to be pretty high
level for you to be a true contending team and
perhaps a Super Bowl winning type team, that it is
still a league in which balance is required at times. Now,
that doesn't mean every week you need to run at
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thirty five times, but there are times every week, normally
against good teams in particular, where you need to line
up and run the football. They struggled with that, and
when they don't then get the big plays. In the
past game, they only had two pass plays of twenty
plus yards against the charges and one was a screen.
So therefore their offense really kind of got shut down.
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And Patrick Mahomes has been phenomenal. You can make the
argument that he's the league MVP, but there's still a
looseness to his game. There's an undisciplined nature to his game.
Is he going to be the kind of quarterback? And
only time will tell that. That's when it's third and six,
will throw a seven yard pass for a completion in
a first town. Those are the plays that matter when
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you start to play against the better opponents. What did
the Colts do to stymy the Cowboys offense? Uh? You know,
it's funny you say that, because I don't think they
necessarily did anything particularly special. I think that they can
controlled at times the line of scrimmage. I thought personally that, uh, well,
let's answer it this way. I think that they defensive
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coordinator has become a lot more multiple over the last
two or three weeks. I think they've been a little
more pressure oriented. They were very low percentage blitz defense
through the first twelve thirteen weeks of this season. I
think now they're showing a little more pressure, they're attacking more,
they're more multiple with their front and looks. They're just
doing some different things over this last month that I
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think are probably causing problems. And I also think that
it was a game where some of Dak Prescott's issues
showed up. And and Dak's a very week to week
kind of player, this particular week he had his poor
lower body mechanics were an issue. He was a little
slow to eliminate and isolate, he thrust and throws on
the field, he was a little inaccurate. So there are
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times when he gets like that, and this particular game
he was in addition to the other issues they had,
and it's kind of shut down their offense. Great Costal
joining us in the NFL films Doug Gotli show, Fox
Sports Radio, what have teams done? You talked about the
lack of top end speed guy that can really scare
a d offense. But uh, it seems it seems that
the people talking about the Saints, Yeah, what's what's happened offense? Well,
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you know, I think again, they're very scheme based, with
a great offensive coach in Sean Payton and a great
great quarterback and Drew Brees, but they're not a high
level talent offense. So very often, if the schemed play
calls for whatever reason, if the timing is just off,
if maybe the past rush impacts the quarterback, whatever reason,
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if the defense actually recognizes it and takes away the
throwing lane, there can be any number of reasons, then
you can struggle. And that's what's been happening because the
reality is, and I hear people talk about this all
the time and I just don't understand it. They say, boy,
they're so talented. They're not particularly talented. They've got Michael Thomas,
who's a certain kind of receiver doug and great at it,
(41:52):
but he's not a vertical, explosive dimension. And the other
player they have in the past game is Alvin Kamara,
who's definitely a dangerous matchup weapon. But beyond those two,
they're they're very scheme based. They don't have receivers that
a defense is we have to take away those guys.
They need ted gain to come back. Yeah, they need somebody.
They've they've been searching for that you know, Kendricks given
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them a little something. You know, they use Benjamin Watson's
like one of the great guys in the league, but
you know he's in his thirties. There's a reason that
that people have been able to kind of take them away.
If you have, if you have is a fair of
you a linebacker that can run. Linebackers that can run.
It changes that dynamic completely. And the reality is, um
that they have not runned the ball as well this
(42:33):
year with their two headed monster as they did a
year ago. And I believe they were a top five
rushing team in the league. Um. I want to ask
you that Sam Donald Uh, people I know in the
league are really impressed by his toughness and that you know,
he's not doting, no talent, not a good offensive line, um,
but but a lot of it he's having to do
where he's trying to kind of run around and make
a play on his own. Does this help him or
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is he gonna set him back at all next year
because he's not sitting back. They're going through his progressions.
There's a final line there. I've been impressed with him
mostly because I think he sees things. For the most part,
correctly for a rookie quarterback. Uh. You know, he's a
little bit of a funky thrower. That's just the way
he throws the ball. So I had to work through
myself that the fact that he doesn't throw a lot
(43:17):
of balls on balance. But I think that's just the
way he shows he throws the ball. We know, as
you said, he has very good second reaction ability. He
can improvise and make plays. I think he's willing to
make difficult throws. He's willing to turn it loose. Um.
So I think for the most part, Doug, he's had
a pretty impressive rookie season. Um. You know. Obviously it's
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been up and down at times, as all rookie quarterbacks
mostly are. But I think that he's he's been pretty
good and I'm looking forward to actually seeing him improve. Yeah,
me too, looking forward to seeing when they put some
talent around Greg Cosell. He doesn't need talent around him.
He simply delivers in a weekly basis. Great great work.
Thanks so much for joining us, Dog appreciate it. Thank you,
pleasures all mind great co sal NFL Films kind of
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to spend a segment with us every week here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show
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Doug Gottlieb
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