The Real Value of LeBron James

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Boom on a Friday.
Glad to have you with us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Hanging out with college football going on right now,
kind of, let's be honest. Let's be honest with the people.

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I didn't say that there was a college football game
because it isn't much of a game at all right
now in Nashville. But we've got the college football semi
final Football Playoffs semifinals tomorrow taking place in Arlington and
in South Florida. Of course, you got Week seventeen in
the National Football League as well. So much to get to,
but we do have to touch on a topic that's

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well comes from the association. It was last night in Sacramento,
and while there was drama in Oakland between the Blazers
and Warriors, it was the same scenario in Sacramento, DS
to his right, three for the Winds. Peace got the fucket,
the Kings get the victory as time expires, and the

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money and a golden one centered Oh look at the
sea of arms upraised. Final score T one seventeen on one,
sixteen Kings over the Lakers on the Sacramento Kings Radio
network and and in the grand scheme of things, Warriors, Blazers,
so much more at stake if you want to look

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at it. Because Golden States sitting near the top of
Portland a playoff contender, but because things are eight jam
packed in the West, Sacramento and the Lakers obviously have
a lot of interest. But it was also the first
full game that the Lakers played this season without Lebron James,
who was out with a groin injury, and the last
night they also played without Rajon Rondo, who we found

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out today is gonna miss four to five weeks after
having surgery on his hand. So the Lakers now are
a team with two without two veteran stars and lose
a heartbreaker last night in Sacramento. E from and this
is this is what we're going to find out. For
all of the talk about Lebron James coming to the Lakers.
What this is gonna do with Luke Walton, What this

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is gonna do with the core? This is the opportunity
we are going to find the real value of Lebron
James to this Lakers team. Whether he misses tonight's game,
which we expect against the Clippers, and expected to miss
a couple of more games, We're gonna find out the
real value of Lebron James to the Lakers over the
next week or two. Will you know what the value
of Lebron is? He's at least twenty games, right, so

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you would think Lebron James is plus twenty games on
any team he goes to, right, sure, and they're on
track four that this year with him. I mean, he's
leading them in points, he's leading them in rebounds, he's
leading them in assists. He's the leader of this team.
I get it. I understand that game last night was

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well within the Lakers hand. They had a eleven point
lead with a little bit over four minutes left in
that game in the fourth quarter, and they just went cold.
No one stepped up. Alonzo did his his part. I
think he played an extremely efficient game, being the floor

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general not having a rondo and there are Lebron. He
showed what his growth has gotten him so far. I
love what he's doing and and not having rondo for
at least four to five weeks with that hand, that
finger surgery, I think it's probably the best thing, maybe
not for the Lakers, but for the growth of Alonzo ball.

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I think this is going to be a stretch of
time where that confidence that we saw from him the
last few games, uh is more on the forefront. He
has the ability to just go out there and play.
He's more aggressive offensively. There were strip stretches of time

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last year and earlier this year where he was on
the floor and it didn't matter offensively or defensively whether
he was on the floor or not. And if you
look at that game, that game to me for Alonzo
against Daron Fox, which is always going to be a
game for Alonzo for the rest of their end of time.

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Right coming off the n C Double A and in
in what happened in the tournament this this matchup those two,
just as much as the Carmelo Lebron matchup was such
a big thing for the first decade of their careers.
Him out performing Fock was huge. I mean he outplayed him. Right,

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Foxes probably the fastest or the second fastest player from
Rim and Rim in the NBA. Love watching them play.
And whenever he plays against uh ball, he's going, he's
he's all, He's he knows what's going to happen, right
fresh beats. In his mind he believes he should have
been drafted before Alonzo, which I get, you know, I

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I just think the Lakers inability to close last night,
Uh it worries me, But I'm not pennicked when you
look at these two teams. If you look at the
two teams that were on the floor last night, the
Lakers obviously we're missing two key parts and specifically Lebron
being a huge point. But if you were to take

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these two teams and have them play the rest of
the string, they're pretty similar. Right and and right now,
the Sacramento Kings are hanging around that eight spot in
the Western Conference. And so while you start out and
you said Lebron James is worth twenty victories, I think
that's a fair estimate. We're really going to get the
test of how good he is going to beat to

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see how the Lakers do whether it's a three game stretch,
whether it's a five game stretcheck. They play Sacramento again
on on Sunday, I believe, and they've got the Lakers
have the Clippers tonight. We're gonna get a bit of
a sense of how much the rest of the team
has grown. And I also think on the flip side,
and I mentioned this yesterday, you're going to see who
works with Lebron and who doesn't work with Lebron, because

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if someone is not playing well to start the season
and all of a sudden, these next couple of games
ends up standing out and shining, and then when Lebron
comes back, you're like, wait a second, what's why isn't
this working. It's almost and it's not to the not
to the level because there was so much dysfunction in Minnesota.
But Carl Anthony Towns played significantly better without Jimmy Butler

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on the on the floor, and that was a lot
of off the court stuff, but it also allowed towns
to to do towns. If you're seeing now brandon Ingram
just shine over the next couple of games, and then
when Lebron comes back, maybe not so much. Okay, you're
gonna say, well, maybe this doesn't fit Alonzo ball. Same
thing if Alonzo shines, and then when Lebron comes back,

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it's having a tough fit. You're going to get your
answers about the Lakers in your future. And now you're
really seeing the value of Lebron James of trying to
decide how this team is going to set up not
only for the rest of this season, but for the
next couple of years. I think it's an interesting stretch
for a team right now that without Lebron we think
could maybe battle for an eight spot. We forget, they

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won thirty five games last year, and I know that
doesn't seem like a lot, but for a team where
some expected them to win twenty, the way they played
in the second half of the season was better. The
way that they closed out against the Warriors was impressive
without Lebron James in that fourth quarter. But this is
this is to me is very interesting. How don't it's
It's not an indictment on on Luke Walton at all,

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because I don't think coaching changes anything at all when
Lebron James is on your team. I just have a
tough time believing that. But I think this is interesting
to find out how the Lakers will navigate because I
think they're about the same as the Kings. And if
you have guys stepping up that are able to play
without Lebron on the floor and play well, and then
when he comes back, that's going to give you another answer, Chap,

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and I agree with you. I think not so much
for Alonzo because Alonzo has been better with Lebron on
the court. The missing link has always been brandon Ingram
this year, especially when he got suspended. Uh cayle Kuzma emerged.
Remember at the beginning the year, cal Kusman was coming
off the bench right, didn't even get suspended. A couple
of games shows up, he's a bona fide Number two.

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Had thirty three points last night, Mr gimme in the
fourth quarter. That could have probably seal the gang. But
he's playing well. He's there, viable number two. He's there,
Robin to Lebron. Right now, we see that Alonzo ball
can play with Lebron. Can brandon Ingram find his way
and fit in second half of that that game last night,

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he kind of disappeared, right he was over three and
the fourth quarter when the ball was in his hands,
to make a difference. That's what the Laker organization and
Luke Walton and Magic and Rob that's what they want
to see. Can this kid take that next step? Can
he have that mentality of I'm going to take over
the game because we know Kyle Kuzman has it, He's

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actually hit a big shot for like we And it's
that confidence, it's that ability. We saw Alonzo Ball running
the floor um and late in that fourth quarter until
the cramps got him. We saw him be be aggressive.
The person we didn't see that we needed to see
was Brandon Ingram. And I think they're you're right there
figuring out, Hey, who fits with Lebron and who does it?

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Who is going to be in our trade pack? Hitch
right because it's up in the air. I know one
thing last year, I know Brandon Ingland was not available
for trade. They came out and said he's not on
the table. Period. That sentiment has changed drastically in my
opinion this year. You know what bothered me about Ingram

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last night is it's not the miss of the free throws.
It's actually how the free throws we're the free throw
was missed last night when Brandon Ingram and for those
of you that didn't see completely understand it wasn't a
national broadcast. Sixers Jazz was actually the game on t NT,
which was the blow up Warriors Blazers better than than
what they had on t n T as well. Brandon

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Ingram goes to the line with the Lakers having at
one point lead. First free throw, hits about four pieces
of the rim and goes in, goes in, So now
you're up by two from nine times out of ten
when guys get that first one to fall, even though
it's a little maybe a little sketchy, second one is
pure like yes, that's all you hear? Yeah us And

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this one, this one wasn't. So you're saying yourself, Okay,
there was a little tension, there wasn't. The the first
one wasn't wasn't an oddity that allowed the game to
remain as a two point game. And then Boydanovich ended
up hitting the three in Tyson his face. It was
great shot. Yeah, and Sacramento is gonna hang around, and
Sacramento is a better time him on Schumpert providing some

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veteran leadership last yeah, yeah, that that fits in well
for Sacramento. But you're gonna see in these next couple
of games, whether Lebron misses the next two, whether he
misses the next three or four, how things really end
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We are happy to be with you on this Friday.
Just an update, ninety seconds left, Auburn leads Produe fifty
six to seven in the Music City Bowl in Nationville.
Excuse me, the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl. I got,
I do have to get it right. The the the
onslaught started early and it's been often. But in about

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fifteen minutes or so, there is a narrative that is
going on on Twitter that is a false narrative surrounding
this game. It has nothing to do with the forty
nine point difference. But we'll get to that in about
fifteen minutes to talk so college football. Some NFL action
joining us now former NFL scouts. He's the host of
the Three and Our podcast on the Herd Radio Network

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are Heard Podcast Network. John Middlecoff joins us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Good to talk to you again, John.
How you doing today? Her Christmas tells how you guys doing?
We are? We are doing well. And tomorrow there are
two college football semifinal games. You've got Clemson against Notre Dame,
Oklahoma against Alabama. It doesn't seem like we're talking about

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the games. We're talking about Oklahoma and Kyler Murray. More
and more, it seems that Kyler Murray's available options include
the National Football League, and it isn't a foregone conclusion
to go to baseball. Say what you willie from. There
have been talk about with with scouts and others about
where he would go. John Middlecoff is a scout. You
are connected in the NFL. How realistic is it that

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Kyler Murray chooses the NFL over Major League Baseball? Yeah?
I just happen to live in a Barry got Billy
bean right down the street from me. You know, let's
call it what it is. I mean, he if you
followed Baseball America, he was, you know, kind of on
the fringe of one of those top thirty prospects. So
when he went in the top ten, it was pretty
eye opening. It's not like he was some baseball prodigy.

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He really was just a great athlete. That's a solid
baseball player. He didn't even hit three hundred, you know,
last year, and I think a lot of it was
he had never really played football. So he gets drafted,
he gets you know, five million dollars, and of course
he's gonna play baseball. And then he becomes the starter
at Oklahoma, which they knew he was gonna become but
I don't think anyone knew he was gonna be this good.

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And then, I mean, you become the starter at Oklahoma,
you lead a team to the playoffs, and you win
the Heisman Trophy. Plus the rules in the NFL have
dramatically changed. And then his own teammate who he sat behind,
and I don't know. You have to ask Kyler, and
he probably wouldn't even tell you the truth, whether he
believes he's better than Baker or even if he just
looks at himself like the equal, he'd go, well, that

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guy went number one. He's now gonna win the Rookie
of the Year. I I if even if I'm not
better and I'm slightly worse, he's like, well, I can
play in the NFL. And if you look up at
this misconception, uh, you know, the casual guy, I don't
think quite realizes how baseball works. Your free agency clock
does not start until you get to the show. So

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usually you spend three or four years in the minors
you get to the show, especially a guy like Kyler.
Now he was drafted early, so they, you know, bump
him up. But if he couldn't hit that there is
a chance you just never make it where in the
NFL if you're a first round pick. I personally think
he's a better prospect than Lamar was last year. I
think he's a more natural thrower, and same with Josh Allen,

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though Josh was bigger, stronger arm I mean, the knock
on him, his size, and he might just be you know,
for NFL standards, amidget. I mean, there's a chance he's
five nine and that would be a problem. But I
just think with the rules and the way these owners
think and even these new kind of age offensive coordinators,
you know, if he was if he was five eight,

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I would say, yeah, you're not gonna go on the
first round. But if he was like five nine and
three quarters, you know, and ran a four three and
he clearly just has a hose, and let's say he
beats Alabama, well, I think he'd go in the first round.
And if you're a first round quarterback, that means you start.
So would you rather be in low a ball, you know,
in two years riding busses or be the starting quarterback
for the Miami Dolphins Week one against the New England

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Patriots three million dollars? But you don't. But but here's
the thing, like, I agree, if you're gonna be the
next Bryce Harper or Barry Bonds or whatever, you play baseball.
But the chances of that, like the the chances of
you becoming a great baseball player is so hard. Like
in football, you're automatically playing. Now. I don't know if
you're gonna be a great player or not, but you're

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at least in the show immediately. And in baseball the
skill I fall baseball really closely. It is so hard
and hitting is the hardest part. And that's something that
he would, you know, the knock always. You know, you
listen to pro scouts or you read articles about it,
like can you hit the breaking stuff? And the higher
you go and double a triple A, it gets so

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much more difficult. And if you just can't like his
his his attribute will be getting on base and running
like Ricky Henderson. Well, Ricky Henderson got on base. You know,
there's a gas that he might not just get on base. Now,
if he becomes a great player, he could make hundred
million dollars. But here's the thing. If you become a
starting quarterback in the NFL, and just a good one,
you also get paid. You know, if he was playing

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running back, I'd be like, play baseball, but he plays quarterback.
You do realize that if he does go to the NFL,
he won't be playing quarterback. He would be like, he's
he's closer to five eight than he is to five ten, alright,
he is. He looks small, right, and he looks if

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you look at him, if you if you don't know
anything about anything, and you just look at him, you're
gonna be like, oh, that's a small kid. It You
know how difficult acts Drew brees, and he's the pinnacle.
He's at the pinnacle of five ten quarterbacks. He is
ascended into the top three in my opinion of quarterback.

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He struggles to throw over that offensive line. So if
you put someone five eight in a quarter five nine
at the most behind an NFL offensive line, brother, I
am telling you right now, it is no way that
this kid is going to be able to navigate being

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that small in the at the quarterback my comp would
be close. Like to me, Drew is one of the
great outliers in the league. Obviously short guy and absolutely
comparison to me would be like more of a faster
kind of Russell Wilson because he is a throwing quarterback.
But now if I was going to counter myself, I'd

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be like, well, I've stood next to Russell. He's built
like a tank. Like you said, this guy short and
he's kind of thin. Build is different. My recommendation would
be this, you just go to the combine, get measured,
get a feel for it, run light them up, and
just see you don't. He doesn't have to necessarily make
a hard and fast decision like right away. He can

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be like, well, I'm gonna do both, and he can
go to the combine. Just get a feel for it.
You don't. I'd be like Tyler, go to the combine,
measure in especially if you play well against Alabama, because
then people will be buzzing. We all know how it works,
and just go to the combine, get measured in its.
Like if you say, if he's five eight flat, then yeah,
probably play baseball. But if you are five ten and

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you know he's not five ten, and then if you
run a four free eight, uh, you know. I don't know.
I just think the way the league has changed, I'm
with you, it's very difficult to play as a midget quarterback.
Like there's been two good ones ever, so I'm not
saying that he would. He would for sure be a
good NFL player, but I do think that just away

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teams view this, he might get drafted high and Lamar
Jackson being the last pick of the first round I think,
got like seven and a half million dollars and it's
obviously it's fully, fully guaranteed, and he's now the starter.
So if Kayler is going to go again, if some
if some of these teams like this guy's going in
the first round, he would, he could double the amount
of money he made in baseball and immediately be the starter.

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Then if he fails, he could always go back to
baseball in a couple of years. John Middlcoff joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, is that Kyler Murray debate
continues easy from Salami fire. One other part of this,
if he was any other position than quarterback, of of
coming out, you could do both like and I think
that would be great for like the A's. I think

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would be like bona fide superstar, a must see when
you go to the ballpark. But it just happens to
be there's no way you could do both at the
quarterback position. I agree, and you know, my thinking was
probably like four weeks into the season, when you're just
watching him and going, this guy is a remarkable athlete,
you know, until you watch the first couple of games

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for Oklahoma. We all kind of heard the hype and
then you watch you're like, oh my god. I started
texting friends, like in the NFL. I'm like, what do
you think, and they go, well, if he just has
this is at the time I was thinking he'd have
to play like wide receiver. They said, if he just
has marginal hands, you know, just average, and can just
function as a punt returner, he'd probably go on the
top forty picks just as an athlete. You know. So

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if he can't play quarterback, and let's say he's let's
just assume he's five eight and a half, let's just
say he loves football. He just likes football more than baseball,
because it does kind of feel like this football thing
he likes it. You know, there's a different element we
all know with football players the closest to your teammates
in baseball, it's really kind of like a glorified individual

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sport that you play as a team. And maybe he
just likes it more. And what who who just say
he couldn't be like the best slot receiver in the NFL,
you know, especially and just this hybrid player that like
Matt Nagge's in the Andy Reid and the shot. These
guys can all use those type players now, So all
these coaches could be like, listen, we'll try you at quarterback.
We'll movie at a bunch of stuff. Hell, he still

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might go in the first round just as an athlete. Yeah,
and you and I agree with that, if he wanted
to go play football as an athlete, like I said,
some type of age back, some type of slot receiver,
something like that. Tarik Hill, I get it. I understand that.
But to sit back there and be asked to throw
the ball from the pocket and your left tackle is

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six seven, your guard is six five. That means something.
And oh, by the way, what do you think several
hits from a J. J. Watt and Aaron Donald and
a Dominican sue, what do you what type of toll
do you think is gonna take on this small frame
young man's body. Do not get me wrong, I hate

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short players just in general. This just this just happens
to be. And we all get this, you know, if
you just watch sports, you kind of get like, you know,
I man crush on an individual player. I get it,
I get it. You're just he is really remarkable. It's
why I can't wait for tomorrow. I'm just my opinion
might change. If he just looks completely overwhelmed by saving

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this defense, maybe I'll just but I mean, just what
if he throws for five touchdowns room for a couple.
The worst thing that could happen for Kyler Murray is
for him to have a great game tomorrow. That is
the worst thing that can happen for this young man,
because he immediately if they if he has a great
game and they win this game, oh my god, it's

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in the first round. It's it's over. And that's going
to be the worst thing for him in the long run.
But I also I also think that, let's just say
he was going to go in the first round, even
as a quarterback, that if it wasn't working out, he's
so special that he could eventually do other things. You know, Okay,
does he want to do other things? Well, you know,

(23:57):
people didn't want to do other things. He just wanted
to play quarterback. He couldn't blay quarterback. I think the
one thing that would be the difference more for Kyler.
And this is your argument that he would realize so
early how he can't see anything, and if he just
didn't function and they started using him as like like
if they kind of integrated him with a team where
he was kind of the hybrid guy like Lamar was

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early on, you could have just used him and other stuff.
And then maybe he just has some success and he
has a couple of touchdowns with catching the ball and
he's like, I like doing this. So I don't know.
I just think he has options. I think that he
legitimately has options and and it may be at other
positions for sure. I just I wouldn't discount quarterback just
from the sense that I think that you can't touch

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quarterbacks now, you can't touch offense. And these coaches are
just they love the college schemes now and they implement
them in that I I just I can't write it off.
You still got to get hit, though college scheme or not.
You still gotta hit get hit. And and and you look
at Lamar Jackson, He's not going to last in the
NFL running the ball e at times the game, it's
not it's not gonna happen. But I I'd say watching Kyler,

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but like my big knock on Lamar was you saw
it in college and r G three was the same way.
They never slid, and it's like, guys, you can't. I
don't care if the guy's a five fives like the
Raiders have Carl Joseph who's a midget safety. He will
hit you so hard and he was crushing people on
Monday Night football, and it's just Lamar is already getting hit.
When you watch Kyler, he's not really diving head first.

(25:26):
He slides, Uh, he avoids hits. Russell Wilson is really
good at that. Like, to me, that is a skill
and that's one thing Lamar just doesn't have. And that's
that's usually not something that changes because it's just kind
of instinctual, uh. And that's what I why I just
bet against Lamar, even though it's really fun to watch
and he's revival, but he's just you kind of hold
your breath when he's taking some of these hits. And

(25:47):
I'm with you. Kyler played like that, he'd have no
shot he last two games, but he doesn't. He slides,
he avoys hits you eventually just get hit. I'm with you,
but I just the game is dramatically changed in like
twenty four months with the rules and the way these
offensive coaches think. So I just think there's a chance.
Ten years ago, I'd say no, he'd have to play
another receipt position. Hell, he wouldn't even get drafted that high.

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That you just the way these teams think it is
just so different now, John, can you hang with us
for just a couple more minutes because I do want
to touch on the NFL. Are you good to do that? Yeah? Okay, okay, cool?
I want to get the latest from Isaac Loan Crown.
Easy from Salama. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, because Week seventeen is
a big deal. You talked a lot about Kyler Murray.
But I want to get John's thoughts Titans. Cold's a

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big matchup coming up on Sunday, and obviously, but we
go over to the update desk with Isaac Lowan Crown
to tell us what the heck is going on in
college football? Hello, Isaac? What the heck is going on?
Dan and E firm is a look into the history
books because in the Music City Bowl. Auburn leads per
Due fifty six to seven at halftime, So it's not

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a stretch to have to look this up. It turns out,
if you're wondering the last time a Division one team
scored a hundred points in a game, it was in
nineteen eighty when Division one Double A Portland's State defeated
Delaware State a hundred and five to nothing, leading to
Portland State head coach Mouse Davis saying after the game,

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and I quote, don't blame me if they were bleep unquote.
Onto the NFL, where the Tennessee Titans just officially listed
quarterback Marcus Mariota is questionable for Sunday Night's Winter take
All game against the Colts due to neck and knee injuries.
Mariotta was a limited participant in practice today for the
second straight day. Saint's head coach Sean Payton made this

(27:34):
announcement a short time ago. Bridgewater will start a quarterback,
and uh, let's just leave it at that. He's had
a good week preparation and he's throwing it really well.
By the way, Sean Payton not exactly world class at
giving good news. Is he You've been accepted into Harvard
and let's just leave at that, Steelers said coach Mike

(27:55):
Tomlin said the receiver Antonio o'brown is having test done
today after experiencing knee discomfort. He officially listed as questionable
for Sunday's game against the Bengals. Steelers also put kicker
Chris Boswell on injured reserve and signed rookie kicker Matt mccrane.
Finally in the NBA, Lakers guard right Gen Rondo had
surgery today to a pair of sprained ligament in his
right ring finger. Lakers say Rondo is expected to make

(28:16):
a full recovery in four to five weeks. Dan and
he from thank you very much. He suys are glowing
crown from salam there. I'm Dan Byrae and for Doug Gottlieb.
John Middlcoff continues to join us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, you can hear the Three and Out podcast
on the Herd Podcast Network. Do the Titans have a
chance with Marcus Mariotta limited? Another culture playing without Ryan Kelly?
But how does this shape up if Mariota isn't one

(28:38):
but still plays. I would say they have a chance
just because the games at home. To me, he taught
his non throwing arm right, Yeah, so to me, it
wouldn't affect him if it was a throwing arm. And
even if he tried to battle through for a guy
that doesn't have a great arm, I'd be really concerned.
I'd be concerned just big picture, if I was a
Titans fan, because it's clear now, if Mariota is just healthy,

(29:01):
they have a good nucleus and they're a playoff level team.
But the moment he goes out, you hold on for
dear life. So whether you win or lose this game,
the thing is, what do you do with this guy?
He's going into he's gonna be you know, after this season,
in his fourth year. He already has a playoff victory
last year. If he were to win this game, you know,
he'd have another playoff appearance. But he just every it
feels like every other game you're holding your breath because

(29:22):
he's walking to the sideline. He's got an injury. It's
a little concerning, and I'm I'm a Mariotta guy, but man,
it's just it's been tough. Now. The Colts are good, uh,
they have some really good young players. Lucks had an
incredible season. The offensive line has been awesome. You know,
the Titans kind of hung their hat this year on defense. Uh.
You know, you think Mariota and Derrick Henry, but it's

(29:44):
really their defense has has been pretty lights out. Uh.
You know, I I probably lean the Colts just because,
I mean, you just in one of these type games,
you just go with the better quarterback. It's really you
know that simple is complicated as this game is. Uh.
And if Mariotta and he's clearly not uh, Luck would
be the better player regardless, even if they were both one.

(30:06):
So that's I'd probably go that way. But I am
pretty excited to watch it. If Mariotta, it's just you know,
nine percentage, it should be fun. What do you think
about I know the Browns aren't in any type of
playoff hunt, but this this matchup is intriguing to me.
For weeks seventeen, the Browns at the Ravens. What do
you think the chances are the Browns pulling up set here? Yeah?

(30:28):
I think the Ravens kicked their butt. I mean I
I watched that game when they played earlier. Uh, they
gave they made Baker Mayfield with pretty pedestrian Uh, and
it's just he I like Baker Mayfield, but he's been
beating up on some really really bad defenses. This Ravens team.
I mean, I think how good Rivers was the week before,

(30:48):
especially in that second half against Kansas City. Now it
was a little bit of a letdown game that was
kind of their super Bowl, but they were humming and
the Ravens made him look so pedestrian last week. And
even the biggest Cleveland Brown fan, I mean, let's Rivers
a better player than Baker Mayfield. That that defense is
just it's stifling. Uh. They don't really have any of

(31:09):
the maybe quote unquote star power that they once had
a peak ray Lewis peak Etter Read. I mean, they
have Sugs, but he's an older player, but they are
just as a unit just unreal. I think it's gonna
be really really difficult for for Baker to just score
on these guys. I mean, it's this is a different level.
This ain't the Cincinnati Bengals with twenty players on injury reserve,

(31:31):
I'll promise you that, and and the games in Baltimore, right, So, Uh,
the Ravens, even when they weren't a playoff team, the
last several years, they're always good at home. Now that
they are they're playing for the division. It wouldn't shock
me if this is like, you know, one of those
like last week against the Charters, something like that to three,
just in the Ray and the Brown struggle to move

(31:54):
the ball. He's John Middlecoff, former NFL scouts, a good
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on Twitter at John Middlcoff. John, we appreciate thanks for
sticking around and uh yeah, great convo and happy New Year.
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play quarterback in the NFL. It's not gonna happen, man,
and and only I say that, and I'm not doubting
this young man's ability in his skill. He's truly electric.

(32:37):
But when I watched him, we sat here and when
we were going uh through that conversation with John, it
was a clip of you know, the previews at the
Orange and and you saw him. You looked up there
and saw him, and nothing about his size. Now we
talk about Drew Brees and we talk about Russell Westbrook,

(32:59):
I mean Russell Wilson, and we're like, well, they're small too,
They're stocky, right, they're built for this. When you talk
about Darren Sprows like he is a tank, he's built
for for impact, right, Kyler Murray is not. He's built

(33:23):
like a baseball player, a small baseball player. And when
you put grown men, right, if you want to try
to do that r PO and that read option in
any of that with someone that size, you're going to
waste money on a first round quarterback pig who can't

(33:46):
see over his alignment in the pocket and who is
at extreme danger outside of the pocket. And I'm just
being a realist. I'm not one for dashing anybody's hopes
and dreams of playing on the next level. The only
reason I'm so critical of him is because he's already
a millionaire in another sport. And I know it's hard

(34:07):
in baseball to make it, but you can make it right,
and you have time to make it. You're getting into
the NFL and realizing, oh, these guys are just as
fast as I am and they hit harder. That's it's
a it's a real life version of Dealer no deal.
Do you know? Like you know, there's there's there's different price.

(34:29):
There's the he said, the three hundred million dollars. If
you're a star at Major League baseball, that's the one
big case you Maybe you've got a million, But which
one do you want to press? You? Do you wanna
do you want to take the deal or not? And
that's what Kyler Murray's gonna have. And they're all ifs right. Well,
if he does get drafted in the first round, then

(34:50):
he'll make more money than he'll if he makes it
in baseball right now. But if he makes it in baseball,
his earning potential is greater. I mean, the person who's
made the most in the NFL has paid menu and
that's only about two fifty million over his career. He
had to be Peyton Manning to make that. So Kyler

(35:12):
Murray doesn't have to be Bryce Harper to make a
hundred and fifty million dollars in baseball? Am I right?
But he doesn't have to be you know what I mean? No,
I get what you're saying. And it's the the the
Jason like Jason Hayward of the gosh Fore. You know

(35:32):
when he sends his deal with the with the Cubs
and then in the Cardinals and you're all of a
sudden you're like, Okay, we're paying Jason Hayward million dollars
a year for this and and you're like, hey, that's
major League base and oh guess what, and it's guaranteed, Yeah,
every sentiment, and you have help you play one game

(35:53):
in Major League Baseball, you have healthcare for life. It's
not like that in the NFL. So yeah, you can
go in and take all those shots and all those hits.
Is an undersized quarterback. And then five years after you retire,
good luck getting your fine fused back together. And I

(36:14):
should say this is from a former NFL just had
ankle surgery a couple of months ago. I paid for
it easy from salam. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. We've got some
news on a big star in the NFL that's not
gonna play in Week seventeen plus, we take a look
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Todd Gurley, I'm gonna go for the Rams on Sunday
in their season finale against the Niner. Is going to
be held out because of his knee issue. Isaac loewen
Kron Is it go for? This? Is game time? Side?

(37:16):
On The Doug Gottlieb Show. Hello, is it good afternoon
to you? Good afternoon, Dan and Eve? From What are
we gonna play today? It's coming to me, It's coming
to me. Psychic it is. By the way, we've done
this joke. Doug does it as well for a good
year and a half. So every single Friday, we always
we always know that it's psychic. If we guess that

(37:38):
it's psychic, never gets old. And yet actual supposed psychics
who careers are based on this stuff, they never know
it's coming. So who should go into business? So psychic
plural is tomorrow the last time we see Kyler Murray
wearing a football helmet. Oh okay, So I see what

(38:01):
you guys are trying to do here. Um, what does
the psychic see? Let me see, I say no, and
not because of the reasons you're thinking, Not because the NFL,
and not because he's going to win that game over Alabama.
But he will take one last photo in his uniform,

(38:22):
his helmet and all of that for a memory keepsake
after his loss tomorrow. So I'll say he will be
in a helmet again, just not on the field. Oh okay,
that's interesting. My psychic power is telling me something different,
but we'll go with yours NFL logo. It is oh no, no, no, no,

(38:42):
no no. It's that's the reading that I'm getting speaking
to the NFL psychics. What NFL team is in for
the surprise of its life this weekend. There's there's some
games don't mean anything and other games mean a lot. Yes, Okay,
I think I think that the Minnesota Vikings could be

(39:04):
in for a surprise. I don't think that the Bears
are going to go easy on them, considering it could
be a playoff matchup. I think the Vikings are in
for a surprise on Sunday against Chicago, which could very
well mean they are on the outside looking in because
they need a win in that game. I think they're
going to get a run for their money from Chicago. Okay,
I like that. Not not that that's crazy, but it's

(39:26):
Minnesota just has so much more to play for than
the Bears, who already have their division locked. Though. I
think that the Baltimore Ravens are going to get a
surprise of their life. I think the Cleveland Browns have
had a taste of winning, which they haven't had in decades,
and I think that team is coming together at the

(39:47):
right time. And I don't think Cleveland is gonna be
an easy win. Alright, psychics, Finally, where will the Raiders
be playing next season? Ironically, Mark Davis recently asked us
of a real psychic. That's funny. I would I would
have wager to guess that they would have played in
San Diego, But now since the stadium thing has gone through,

(40:09):
I'm not sure. So I'll say San Antonio. Wow, that
that had been a possibility years back with Mark Davis
splitting with San Antonio. They're gonna play in the home
of the Giants. You're gonna play in San Francisco. It's
the only place that seems to make sense for them.
And if there was another option in the Bay Area

(40:29):
outside of the Coliseum in Oakland, I think they're going
to take it. I think they're gonna work out a
deal with the San Francisco Giants. Maybe they're playing a
soccer stadium. It's worked, it's right, you have it in
the National Football League. Why not. I think they're gonna
stay in the Bay Area. This is game time. I

(40:52):
also think that option two is Mark Davis just saying
all right, fine, I'll fund their lawsuits. I'll pay them
rents while they sue me, so the fans have another season.
I could actually see that more as easy from salam
I'm Dan Buyer coming up next why Notre Dame isn't
Notre Dame anymore? That next be sure to catch live editions,

(41:13):
so the Doug gott Leap Show week days in noon
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I Heart Radio app. Yes, Auburn just doesn't stop, just
doesn't stop. Another triple header in college football today with
bowl games, but this one is over that there, they
should just stop it just to save the field for

(41:33):
the Titans Bolts on Sunday night. There's there's no point
when it's sixty three to seven, there's no point in
continuing to play. Maybe they should just use half the field.
That that's what you could do as well, and say
let's keep this other half nice. Auburn could just take knees.
The I follow the college football account on Reddit and
they said Auburn could take knees for the rest of

(41:54):
the game and still win this contest, which really, I mean, hey,
two minutes at a time, absolutely only twenty minutes left.
They would have to score every single time? Can we do?
I don't know what's on the schedule, but we got
to talk about these bowl games? Mann, Well, I do
want to talk about tomorrow's games. The College Football Playoff
in and where we are with Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame

(42:19):
in Oklahoma. But before we do that, I do want
to tell you this, It's never okay to drive stone.
You put yourself and others in danger. If you've been
using marijuana in any form, do not get behind the wheel.
If you feel different, you drive different, Drive high, get
a d U. I So game one Clemson Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl Game to tomorrow eight o'clock Eastern time, Alabama

(42:42):
Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. If you had to pick
from on the matchup that you would like to see
in the national Championship game, the College Football Playoff Championship
in Santa Clara, California, coming up on not the next Monday,
but the Monday after January seven. What is the matchup

(43:03):
you would like to see in that title game? I
would love to see Alabama Notre Dame. Really, And I
say that because number one, people tried so hard to
not even let Notre Dame. They didn't want Notre Dame

(43:26):
in the top four. I mean they were they wanted Georgia.
I would say that anybody right, the fact that Notre
Dame is independent, they don't have a conference, they don't
have a conference championship. Notre Dame did the work, they
deserve to be there, and I would love for them
to finish off this run and have an opportunity to

(43:47):
play in the national championship, right because if they would
have lost one game at any point of that they
could have lost the first game then want all the rest.
It's no way they would be in the top four. Absolutely,
it's no way. So because they won't let my team,

(44:10):
not my team, but a team I've been supporting for
the last two years. You see, if even getting near
the playoffs, even though they and oh yeah, I mean
I think for the little guys, I think it'd be
a good story for Notre Dame. And that's what is

(44:30):
amazing about this and where we are with college football
and where we are with Notre Dame. You a are
probably in the minority of wanting to see Alabama Notre Dame. Right,
Notre Dame is now the feel good story about that, okay,
and that Notre Dame now in realistic of all the

(44:52):
options that we've seen. Now think about this. I think
that if you polled people with the same question of
what game without any allegiance they would want to see
Alabama take on Clemson, they would want to see Oklahoma
take on Clemson. Maybe they don't want to see Alabama
and Clemson again for the fourth straight year. Would be
the third time they would play in the title game

(45:12):
in these four years. They played last year in the
semifinal game in the Sugar Bowl. But I don't think
people are saying, yeah, I want to see Notre Dame Oklahoma,
or yeah, I want to see Notre Dame Alabama. And
that is different from college football from years past. Now.
Whenever Notre Dame gets an opportunity to be put on TV.
We we know that NBC has their network, where Notre

(45:35):
Dame's network is NBC. But when Notre Dame goes on
the road and those games aren't on NBC and it's
an ABC or ESPN contract or a CBS contract, that's
the marquee game. Like when Notre Dame is at Navy,
that game is marquee for CBS, or if Notre Dame
is at Florida State, ABC is playing that game in

(45:57):
prime time because they have an opportunity to do the
note or name game. That's with their fan base. But
I think it's different now as you look at college football,
is that the Notre Dame that for years that we've
said is is they're not the Notre Dame of the past,
And they're not. They aren't. And this is telling you

(46:17):
what is the present of college football, and it comes
with recruiting, it comes with the playoffs. Notre Dame in
this scenario is the feel good story and that was
unheard of thirty years ago. It's not new e from
that we're talking about that. I don't want to see
the demise of Notre Dame, but there isn't as much luster.

(46:39):
What is amazing to me is just looking at the
present day college football landscape and how we are so
easy to dismiss Notre Dame and now they come in
as this underdog role, which is something that we haven't
seen really ever in college football. Yeah, and and it's
fitting right. Uh, it's it's a long time since the

(46:59):
days of Rudy, you know, and in the powers of
of of the fighting Irish. I think it would be
a better story. I think you'd be more compelling. I
think you get more eyes. Like you said, Clemson, Alabama,
we've seen that, um so I I the only thing
that I think people want to see more was maybe

(47:20):
Alabama Georgia again. I think you know, the way those
two games the last two years have played out have
been tremendous. I mean, I think it's awesome. And with
Notre Dame's reach is what it is. And if if
they end up playing in the National Championship game, I
do think that the ratings would be better than But
the point is people don't want to see Notre Dame

(47:43):
that are college football fans, Yeah, because they don't, but
they don't believe they belong there, right, So that there's
always that they don't belong here. But how can you
say that when they did the work right? So that's
my whole thing, Like, you go undefeated, you belong It's hard.
I don't care what conference you play in. If you're
in Division one and you go undefeated, it's difficult to

(48:05):
do that. That means everything has to go right every week.
It's hard to do that in sports. It's amazing. When
you heard the committee speak in the in the committee
chairs speak on why rankings were a certain way. There
were quotes and I'll paraphrase that the only reason Notre
Dame was ahead of Michigan by the one spot was

(48:27):
because of the win against Michigan. Not to me that
was absurd considering like, yeah, that should be the case
that that that's that's the number one. Like if you're
talking about criteria, that is a on the list of
eight as E is. Did they play head to head?
Yes they did, But as you're trying to figure out
a playoff, you're basically telling Notre Dame, if you lose,

(48:51):
even though you beat Michigan, we're still going to put
them ahead of you, which is is crazy to think.
And that's what Notre Dame had to fight all season long.
They're also out fighting in the bigger picture from recruiting wise,
when and this is again this is nothing new. But
why I think it's magnified as this is because you've
got three programs that are marquee college football programs and

(49:16):
what we call college football programs of today, and they
are a bigger brand and bigger than what Notre Dame
is as crazy as it is, especially to recruits. When
you look at recruiting for the recruiting class, let's just
say the class looked up the numbers, Alabama is fourth,
Clemson seventh, Oklahoma ninth, Notre Dame tenth. Next year recruiting

(49:37):
class Alabama one, Clemson five, Oklahoma seventh, Notre Dame fourteen.
For a four year span from seventeen, they had the eleventh, eleventh,
and thirteenth ranked recruiting class. And so it's it's another
opportunity for us to see where these other programs have
lifted and Notre Dame just isn't Notre Dame anymore, and

(49:59):
Notre Dame is never We're going to be the Notre
Dame again. And I think this year is a perfect example.
Yeah and yeah, I agree. And the fact that they
don't have a conference, they don't have a conference champion
uh championship, I think that holds a lot of weight now,
especially in the power of five conferences. That means something, right,
you have to be able to win your conference. That

(50:22):
that that's that gives you more gravitized right, so that
more so than years past. Absolutely, it's more important now
than anything. Now. I can't wait till they expand this
thing to eight games so we can get some real
quality football going on and in the playoffs, just not
of a four team uh playoffs. I just I'm all

(50:44):
four or four teams. But that's it's not enough. Man.
You look at the top eight teams in college football
this year, I mean that would be. That would be
great football every yeah, every single year, though somebody's on
the outside looking in. That's every year. Yeah, I get it.
But if you if you widened it to eight, right,
wouldn't that be amazing? Though? Wouldn't wouldn't you be able

(51:07):
to get you know, a couple more like? So, yeah,
you finished off with Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, you
have Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, UCF. That's good football in
that age. Oh yeah, that would be. But where's Washington
to won the pack twelve? They're on the outside looking

(51:28):
But you just get it. I understand. But you can't
lose three times, right, you can't lose three times? And
everybody else ahead of you have lost none once or
twice like you have three. You're on outside if you,
no matter what you do in your conference, if you've

(51:48):
lost three times, well, I mean, I I think, and
there's I didn't want to sit here in debate about
the brackets. We can later in the show. I when
if you if you're gonna do it one way, somebody
is gonna be left out. And if you take it
the year before, you look at it and you say, oh, wow,
well okay, we took the top eight, but now we

(52:09):
had two conference champions not make it because we included
that team, and and so they there's just there's no
way for it to to work out because every single
year is different. There's some years where the group of
five champion gets in. Well that doesn't make sense in
another year, and there's another year where it's hey, all
all three out, there should be three at large teams.

(52:30):
Then you're like, well, you know UCF for Western Michigan
just went thirteen and oh during the seat you know,
you're like, why don't they get a they get a chance.
So there's so it fluctuates every single year. I will
say this, if Notre Dame had one loss, they're obviously
not in the playoff, But not only that, I think
they're below Oklahoma. I think and if they and nobody

(52:53):
would have cared, nobody would have cared and would have
been like it would have been like, oh my gosh,
Notre Dame. When we're talking about the nineteen eighties and
and and in that time, and and again I know
it's nothing new that Notre Dame isn't the same, but
what it's just, it's it's so magnified to me. From that,
we get a realistic picture of where Notre Dame is
in the college football landscape when they're next to Alabama

(53:18):
and now Clemson that's arrived, and now Oklahoma with their
appearances in the two Heisman Trophy winner and for them
to be the also rands of this four is mind
boggling to me. Superpower now just a power easy from
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(54:23):
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(55:08):
who he would want to play with her daring the
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(55:30):
them about tampering. Now. This from Adrian war Zanowski of ESPN,
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(55:53):
It went on to say this, This principle is particularly
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Teams should be entitled to focus their reference on the
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(56:16):
speculation regarding the two conduct or speculation, excuse me regarding
the potential destinations of those players in future seasons once
their contracts expire. I like the memo of two l
A Lakers C C. Lebron James. Don't tell a reporter

(56:37):
to ask you who you want to play with, Don't
go out to eat multiple times with other players. That's
what we would like, Sincerely, Adam Silver of the NBA.
Because there is no way this memo pertains to the
Atlanta Hawks for the Charlotte Hornets or or Aaron Garden
of the Orlando Magic for them. Hey, I Spencer Dinwity, no, no,

(57:05):
this is this is such a and and it's it's
so right. And and Gavin Kinson are executive producer. We
were talking about this prior to the show. It's it's
so about Hey, one person is doing wrong. We're gonna
just send it out to everybody and hope that they
get the message. But again it's the NBA, Like, alright, Lebron,
you do what you want to do. This is this,

(57:27):
this memo was intended for one team and one player
in particular, Yet the NBA feels the need to send
it out to the twenty nine others. I think that's absurd.
It is absurd, and it's no way they can stop it,
right because, for all Lebron knows, or any other player
who comments on who they'd like to play with, they're
not breaking rule. The rule is that anyone in management,

(57:50):
personnel ownership can't outwardly recruit players who are under contract
because they have the power to pay that player. Last
I checked, players don't pay They players right. Guys are

(58:13):
going to talk, Guys are going to tweet, guys are
going to go eat with each other. The NBA is
different than it was in the past, where all these
guys number one, they all grew up playing a au together.
They all know each other. We saw a whole host
of the new breed with the uh the entire Duke
basketball team deciding to go to Duke together. You know

(58:35):
you know what I mean. So it's it's a different time,
a different era. Right. It was a reason why Dwyane Wade,
Chris Bosh and Lebron James all met in Miami because
they've all been talking about meeting in Miami. So them
coming out with this memo saying, hey Lebron, basically Lebron James,

(58:58):
please stop saying that you want to play with these
other people. Uh. Some deem it unfair, but the money
still has to be right and the guys have to
go want to play. There's been players who said they
don't want to play with Lebron, right, I mean they
said it publicly. Kevin Durand said he didn't want play Lebron. Right,

(59:20):
some things came out to Kawhi Leonard didn't want to
play Lebron. Right, Like it goes both ways. Some guys
want to play with Lebron. Some guys didn't, And Lebron
even said earlier he was like, look, when I was
in Cleveland, I asked everybody, nobody wanted to come to Cleveland.
Right when I went to Miami, everybody wanted to come
to Miami. It was cool. Now that I'm in l A,
guys will probably want to come play with me in

(59:42):
l A. Which is true, But him telling Anthony Davis, yo,
I want to play with you, I would like to
play with you. I this look. First of all, Anthony
Davis under a contract. It's nothing he can do, right,
it's under From my sources, they're not trading Anthony Davis
this year, right, makes sense, would be the worst thing

(01:00:03):
in the world. Now next year, that's different, right, because
he has one year left on his contract after this year,
he can sign for upwards of two hundred and thirty
six million this offseason, and you would know if you
would take that deal or not. If he takes the deal,
he's not leaving. If he says I don't want to wait,
then that's a pretty good indication that he's going to

(01:00:26):
move on. So now, as a GM and as an owner,
now you you move accordingly, but right now you're not
trained for Anthony Davis. It's not happening. So I don't
get what the fuss is. Guys are going to do
this no matter what. You know what I mean like that, Yeah,

(01:00:47):
this is this is the nature. This is where guys
were college buddies. And if they're in town flying in
the night before, guess what, let's meet up and have dinner.
We've been friends for a while, right, this is nothing new.
I know Anthony Davis is representation representation change or his
agent change, so that's that's a different thing. But there's
obviously that connection the issue that that I have. And

(01:01:09):
by the way, I get what Lebron was saying. I
get what he was saying. When the reporter said, asked
me who I want to play with, He's saying everybody.
And it's funny because I mentioned the promos of of
what you hear and you may hear some of the
promo promos on on Fox Sports. Jason McIntyre, who hosts
a show at ten o'clock Eastern time Saturday mornings here

(01:01:29):
on Fox Sports Radio, pointed out that he didn't say
Steph Curry, that's what we do as media that's where
as talk shows. That's what's that's what sports talk is
all about. Sports talk is the columnist on the left
side of your paper that you had read for forty
years when it was delivered to your door. That's what
sports talk radio is. Thinking of different things, looking at
different things. That's exactly what it is. To send out

(01:01:52):
a memo to stop people from in sports talk media
from talking about what's going on. Send it to send
it to us, and by the way, I wouldn't have
any effect, just like this is not gonna have any
effect on the Lakers. This memo is not going to
have any effect on the Atlanta Hawks, or the Charlotte Hornets,
or the Brooklyn Nets or Orlando Magic, teams that aren't
affected by this. This was this was pointless on so

(01:02:13):
many levels, because if you're the Lakers, you're like, all right, well, whatever,
Lebron is a player, we won't tamper he can do
what he wants. If you're the Atlanta Hawks, this you're
saying yourself, and I'm using them as an example, you're saying, well,
you didn't call out the Lakers for what they were doing.
They are the ones that should have been explicitly mentioned
in this memo. This doesn't do anything. This did nothing

(01:02:36):
for it every they didn't. And they couldn't call the
Lakers out because they didn't do anything wrong. What they
didn't break a rule. But you couldn't call anyone out
in this aspect. You can just put a blanket memo
out there alluding two different teams, right, But it doesn't.

(01:02:57):
It has no it has no merit. It hasn't it's
nothing from I'll use a perfect example. I am at
Fox Sports Radio. My official title is managing editor. I'm
in charge of our news departments. I'm in charge of
the anchors. And we had an issue at the anchor
desk where someone was taking our pen caps and bending

(01:03:18):
the part that comes down so it would stick out
at a ninety degree angle. And it was so annoying,
and I had no idea who it was. I know
that some people didn't like it and it bothered me
and it makes it difficult to put the pens in
the place whether it's supposed to. But I didn't know
who it was. I had no idea. I'm not here

(01:03:39):
twenty four hours a day, but somebody was doing it.
So you know what I did I sent a memo
out to the staff, whoever is bending the pen caps,
please stop doing so. We'd really appreciate it. And guess what,
it stopped. But I didn't know who it was. So
that's why I had to send a memo to everyone.
And I wasn't about to do it an investigation with

(01:04:01):
hidden cameras and who was bending our pen caps? This
situation is fitting for one team only, and there was
nothing that you could do about it. Therefore, there was
no point in the memo. There was a point for
my memo, which accomplished the feed. There was no point
for the NBA to do this. This accomplished absolutely zero
and made absolutely zero teams happy or affected on any level.

(01:04:25):
But didn't you want to know who the pin jerk was?
This is this is the funny thing about it. I
thought I knew who it was, and it wasn't. Yes,
that's it was not that person. So when you find
out more information, now it's narrowed down. I mean, we
have a list of suspects. There, there is a list

(01:04:46):
of suspects, but so far there haven't been any behavior.
The behavior has stopped. The memo worked, Like you said,
in this instance, the NBA memo. It's not going to
work because Lebron's gonna be Lebron. Guys are gonna be guys.
This is not the first or the last time that
this is going to happen unless they implement a rule

(01:05:09):
which I don't think the player is going to go
for easy from Salama, I'm Dan Buyer. This is Fox
Sports Radio. There are a couple of superstars in their
sports that likely want to play for a marquee team.
And we aren't talking about the Los Angeles Lakers. We
are talking about suspect number one, Isaac lowen Kron and
the penn keeper Case who is at the anchor desk

(01:05:30):
filling us in on the latest Isaac, I I shouldn't
say you are a suspect. You already did, as you
are at that anchor desk. I think would you like
to cop to it right now? We actually do have
some breaking pen cab coming up in just a moment,
Alrightaul by having to write a new pembo. Oh oh boy? Okay,

(01:05:53):
al you begin. However, in the NFL, where the Titans
officially listed quarterback Marcus Mariota as questionable for Sunday nights,
whittre to tyke all game against the Colts due to
neck and knee injuries. Mariota limited participant in practice today
for the second straight day. Saints head coach Sean Payton
had an announcement to make today about their game on
Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. Bridgewater will start a quarterback,

(01:06:16):
You're getting a ten percent raise, and let's just leave
it at that. Elsewhere, Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said
that receiver Antonio bron is having test done today after
experiencing knee discomfort. He's officially listed as questionable for their
game Sunday against Cincinnati. Steelers also put kicker Chris boswellth

(01:06:38):
on injured reserve and signed rookie kicker Matt mccrane. Rams
head coach Sean mcvas says running back Todd Gurley will
be held out on Sunday against the forty Niners. In
the NBA, Lakers Guarden right gen Ronto had surgery today
to repair a sprain ligament in his right ring finger.
The Lakers say Rondo's expected to make a full recovery
in four to five weeks onto the Music City Bowl

(01:07:00):
between Auburn and Perdue, and Perdue doing themselves proud in
the second half. They're playing Auburn to a stand still.
Ten minutes left to play fourth quarter and both teams
have scored seven points in the second half, so Perdue
playing them to a draw. Oh you're wondering what happened
in the first half, Well, the score was Auburn fifty six,

(01:07:23):
Perdue seven. So the cumulative score right now sixty three
to four Auburn with ten or four left to play
in the fourth. But hey, at least we're not again
combing through the record books to find out the last
hundred point game. Damn you can. You can say it's Auburn.
Here's the update, because I too find the pen caps

(01:07:45):
really irritating. When you brought this up. I looked down
at the pen can and someone has bent back the
pen cap on the orange sharpie and there is another
freshly bent pen cap been there. So here's what I
think the problem is. To see. When Buyer sends out
his memos, they're just very very professional. They're very professional,

(01:08:09):
they're very well written. Our beloved colleague John Ramos, who's
really really mild mannered. He sends these memos that are
just very very forceful. There's bold letters, italicizing capital letters.
Maybe you'd have Ramos, right, Do you have to have
my memo that I sent on this maybe an email forum.

(01:08:29):
I can look it up right now, search for buyer
and pen because this isn't maybe I wasn't as forceful
as I would like to have you read that on
the air for the people. Just the title is pen
caps not, by the way, not not Pittsburgh Penguins against
the Washington Capitals, which is what I first thought is

(01:08:51):
on our Discover card matchup of the week. Anyway, So
whoever bends the ends of our pen caps in the
anchor studio dot dot dot dot dot dot all caps,
please stop seven exclamation points. I put new pens in
the studio this week, and there are already a bunch

(01:09:11):
of bent caps. Thanks dB. Sent from my iPhone. There
it is there. It was that sells you. By the way,
if I set it from my iPhone, that means I
was so mad to wait to get to the computer.
You had to send it immediately immediately. I'll tell you this.
Go ahead, I should have put in there. Hey man,

(01:09:34):
whoever's been in these pain caps about to get fired?
dB sent from my iPhone. Yeah, that's it, you got.
I do have a conspiracy theory because the anchors aren't
the only one who have access to the anchor studio.
Maybe there's a maybe there's a rogue colleague of ours

(01:09:54):
who's trying to set up the anchors and Vince Avin
our executive producer, Gavin Kenzil Vincent Close, our technical producer.
I thought that that was firm. I thought they got
the point across. Addressed to us as an employee of
Fox Sports Radio, Vince, would you stop bending caps based

(01:10:15):
on that memo? I would, but I don't bend to
begin with. Our problem is is that we end up
missing pens likes an issue now someone stealing and it's
running rapid in the studio. Get the law on the
phone of the pen Crisis of Fox Sports Radio. Thank

(01:10:38):
you very much, guys, We appreciate it. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Easy from Salam. I'm Dan Buyer sitting
in for Doug today. If you want to reach us
on Twitter, I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox from they
can get you at climate from a report from the
New York Post says that Bryce Harper and Manny Machado
do not want to go to the Philadelphia Phillies now.

(01:11:00):
Not only did Joel Sherman report that, he also said
this that it is likely the preferred destination of both
players to be the New York Yankees, but the New
York Yankees have not been interested in signing those players. Now.
The Yankees have not been interested because of the long

(01:11:20):
term deals. Scott Boris did say at the Winter meetings
in Las Vegas a few weeks ago that he wasn't
told by the Yankees that they were out of the
running or that they didn't want to spend money on
Bryce Harper, despite Brian Cashman and the Yankees organization saying
that they weren't going to be in the running for
Bryce Harper. But this may explain some of the reason

(01:11:42):
why that no decision has been made from either free agents,
and also why the Dodgers made the move last week
to send Yasiel Puig and Matt Kemp along with Alex
Would to the Cincinnati Reds. We knew about the Bryce
Harper connection there, but also the Cubs have been brought
up as another possible destination. And this is interesting to
me from for this case is with Scott Boris, is

(01:12:03):
Bryce Harper's agent. I just assumed he'll go wherever the
most money is. I mean, if there was a team
in Nova Scotia, he'd be playing in Nova Scotia. They
could offer him the most amount of money. And now
to hear that maybe that isn't the case, I think
that's bad news for the Chicago White Sox, who I
considered one of the front runners to at least sign
one of one of the two players, and specifically if

(01:12:24):
they wanted Bryce Harper. But that this could be a
situation where maybe it is a little NBA like when
Lebron is saying about recruiting and wanting to play for
certain teams, that there is a little bit heavier sentiment
for these stars to want to play for brands in
Major League Baseball and not just go to a team
where there's more money. Well, I think if you can
attach yourself to a brand for a good clip of change,

(01:12:48):
maybe you don't get three fifty, you get three twenty five,
but you can play in a huge market, which is
you know what the value is it's it's come on now.
I mean, you play for the Yankees, right, it's through
the roof. You're at the number one media hub on

(01:13:09):
the planet Earth. Right, you come to l A. You're
in this market, the second biggest media market. That means something. Right,
it may not be four million, but three seventy five
in New York or l A. I'll do it, right.
I don't see like when you look at the Yankees
and in the NFL, there's maybe been there's been some

(01:13:32):
some threats to the Dallas Cowboys. But my wife asked
me this a couple of weeks ago out of the blue.
She goes, if you were a football player and couldn't
play for the Seahawks, which have been my favorite team
since I was a kid, what team would you would
you play for? And my wife isn't a big football fan,
she knows a couple of teams, and she thought that
I would say the Packers because I'm from Wisconsin. I

(01:13:54):
said the Dallas Cowboys, Like if I really sat and
removed myself from the suit suation, it would be really
cool to play with that star on your helmet. And
I think the Yankees for baseball players, like you could
say Green Bay Packers, Dallas Cowboys. In the NBA, you
could say Lakers, Celtics, Nicks. The gap from Yankees, two

(01:14:17):
Dodgers or Cubs. I think it's bigger in baseball. Yeah,
then then you would get in the NFL or the NBA.
And I think that's what we're seeing right now with
with Bryce Harper and Manny Machado about where they want
to play. That Yankees appeal. There's just something about it.
And it's white teams that say, all right, see a
Red Sox and in that rivalry, I want to go
play for the Yankees. Yeah, I mean just to be

(01:14:38):
in New York and and be a part of that
organization and the winning ways and also make some good coin.
I understand that you gotta remember what most fans are.
People don't realize is when players go play somewhere where
they have to live there. Right, Like I played on

(01:15:01):
twelve I mean in thirteen years, I played on five teams, right,
And people ask me, where did you enjoy playing the most.
I love Denver because of the atmosphere in the fans
was tremendous. And I like Houston, big city a lot
to do. I did not like Jacksonville God and and

(01:15:26):
and the one miserable year for the lacking of what
the other two had. They just didn't have anything. The
restaurant was Tony Romas that was like and this is
pretty to the air product and this is pre outdoor mall.
And remember when they had the Super Bowl there, they
had to bring cruise ships in because there weren't enough

(01:15:46):
adequate hotels for people. Right, that's a problem. If you
don't have enough hotels to host a super Bowl, then
you shouldn't host the super Bowl, right, Yes, yeah, And
I I spent one year in Detroit, and I lived
in a nice part of Detroit. But this is OH nine.

(01:16:06):
This is right after they went oh in sixteen, right
after the economy in this country dropped out. The bottom
whole neighborhoods were being boarded up in Detroit. And I
stayed up in Birmingham, Michigan, which is beautiful, but it
was still just depressing at the time. Right, And it matters, right,

(01:16:27):
And and and a lot of fans think, Okay, you're
making all this money, you're playing a suport you love,
Suck it up and deal with it. But the human
factor is the human factor. And you may have kids,
you may have a wife. It matters, right because you
want to be comfortable. You want to be in a
place where you want to be number one, which is
the key to being a free agent. You get to
pick where you want to go right money aside. If

(01:16:50):
the money somewhat on par, then you get to pick
where you want to spend the remainder of your career.
Are a good portion of it with your family, and
I think a tractive cities like New York, Los Angeles, Miami,
those resonate with people opposed to Cleveland, especially when you're

(01:17:11):
there six months in Bay and like, yeah, Bay, NBA
and Major League Baseball seasons are obviously more frequent with
games you're having more downtown in the NFL. But the
fact is in the NFL, maybe you're there from Maybe
you could get by July to December and then go
to Florida where everywhere the NBA you're there from September,

(01:17:32):
maybe all the way to June. You got about a
two month break. That's the whole time, you know what
I mean? And it it look it linds nobody wanted
to come to Sacramento. I grew up in Sacramento, for
high school, junior high. In high school, nobody wanted to come.
Remember what Chris Webber went crazy? Right Like? I was like, Wow,
what's wrong with Sacramento? But as a professional athlete, I
get it. It would be the worst place to go

(01:17:54):
and just be a young professional athlete with money. There's
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(01:18:58):
Doug today and just because Doug isn't here doesn't mean
we don't do what Doug usually does. And now you
can still hear from Doug. Vote right now because he
was in for Colin Cowherd on The Herd earlier today
and spoke about the one, the only, the Golden State Warriors.
This idea that the Warriors can be team Clapper, you

(01:19:21):
remember the clapper clap on clap of the clapper, that
they can get to the playoffs and go like, all right,
we're gonna play. The league is closer than you would think.
Most people don't pay a ton of attention to regular
season NBA outside of Christmas Day. And Steph Curry has
played poorly before on Christmas Day. He shot poorly on
Christmas Day again. But the turnover that Steph had the dependent,

(01:19:43):
the over dependence on Kevin Durant to bail them out,
the lack of of bench depth of any kind, Draymond
Green being almost non factor outside of being a passer
on offense and Clay Thompson suddenly struggling to make shots
that he has always made in the NBA. Before you

(01:20:04):
put in pencil, or definitely before you put in pen
that the Warriors are gonna win the NBA championship, and
then we'll figure out what happens with k D, with
Clay and with with Draymond Green. This thing is closer
that the league catches up in a in a game
that they rallied last night against Portland the Force overtime
and then actually had a decent start to the overtime,

(01:20:25):
but let Portland get back in it. Doug worried about
the Warriors that Doug has been He said, Oklahoma City
throughout the season is a real threat to Golden State.
Doug says the Warriors are in trouble because it isn't
the same as it was before. From salam is it
the same as it was before. It's not the same
as it was before. And every championship you you win,

(01:20:47):
the urgency in the regular season decreases. It's hard to
get up for these games. It's hard to grind out.
You gotta remember, you've played more basketball the last four
years than anyone on the planet has other than Lebron James, right,
So it's hard to motivate yourselves now in December when

(01:21:13):
you have so much more of the season to go.
The thing that I'm not worried about with Golden State
is after the All Star break it sometimes they get
Boogie Cousins, right to it. I knew that that was
they get Boogie Cousins, which is going to eradicate and
erased some of these problems because he is a bona
fide twenty and twenty guys period. That is correct, But

(01:21:37):
I still disagree with you that Boogie Cousins is going
to be the solution to other problems. I didn't say
all their problems. I said what it's going to do
is eradicate some of the shooting wolves of Clay Thompson, right,
the beef between uh Draymond and Kevin Durant. You now
have another bona fide guy you can throw the ball
into and score. Yeah, it's to stabilize things out. Let's

(01:22:01):
put De Marcus Cousins in. Come on, he from z
from Salava. I'm Dan Baier. This is the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Kyler Murray in the NFL.
He from doesn't think so that next bottom of the hour,
we'll tell you who's gonna play for college football's national
Championship chip the semifinals tomorrow in the Cotton Bowl and

(01:22:23):
also in the Orange Bowl. Welcome in everyone, Glad to
have you with us as we near the end of
We also near the end of the regular season for
the National Football League, and while the playoffs are ahead,
it's crazy from to think that we sometimes spend more
times on teams that are gonna fire coaches this week

(01:22:43):
that are looking for new quarterbacks that aren't gonna make
the playoffs as we try to look ahead. That's almost
what Week seventeen has become. Instead of maybe those who
are fighting for playoffs spots, We're already getting a jump
start on the twenty nineteen campaign for many NFL squads. Yeah,
because this is as we know. On Monday will be Monday.
I think I should petition to have them change it

(01:23:03):
to maybe gray Monday, because I just think that racial
undertones in the country right now that can't stand another
black epitaph. I'm just, I just, I'm sorry, I just
I'm just I'm I'm just ingested but yeah, it's usually
about who's gonna get fired. Which college coach is going
to get the opportunity to now come back our start

(01:23:24):
their NFL coaching career. But now we had some heat,
we got action this weekend. By the way, all mondays
matter exactly right. So yeah, in less than a week,
there's gonna be a lot of coaches who aren't going
to be where I should say a lot of coaches.
There's gonna be some coaches, but there could be as

(01:23:45):
many as maybe seven vacancies, maybe eight if there's a
surprise here and there. We expect Denver to make a
change with fans. Joseph Todd Bowles likely out with the Jets.
We know Green Bay likely to move on from Joe Philman,
but he has received some support from Aaron Rodgers and
Davante Adams about wanting to keep him around. But while

(01:24:05):
other teams are also looking at coaches, you're also looking
at quarterbacks. Blake Portals not like to be back with
the the Jackson with Jaguars. Who knows about the future
of Eli Manning with the New York Giants. Joe Flacco
likely out of his way in Baltimore's It looks like
it's Lamar Jackson's job. And with all of this looking ahead,
you look ahead to the NFL Draft, and as as

(01:24:25):
the NFL gets more and more popular, and and and
as they have it a twelve month out of the
year's sport, they really want to take June off. By
the way, that June's like the only month the NFL
really doesn't want anything, but all the other months they
actually want something, whether it be starting with training camps
or even having the draft and other things going on
in May. June's the month that the NFL is just like,

(01:24:45):
all right, we're good, We're gonna take the other eleven months.
But draft talk starts now, and draft talks starts surrounding
guys in college bowl games, whether they play or not.
And Kyler Murray is the name that we are talking about,
especially in a season and e from where there isn't
a number one franchise quarterback available, a guy that is
a sure fire. Last year, there were a bunch of

(01:25:08):
guys we didn't know who was gonna go number one.
But you thought that there were four or five franchise
quarterbacks in the draft in addition to a possible Hall
of Fame caliber running back in say Kwon Barkley. So
there's a lot more hype this year. There's no bonafied
number one QB, and there's a bunch of defensive linemen
that we think are going to go in the first round.
But Kyler Murray has been the topic of conversation because

(01:25:30):
it's a guy who won the Heisman Trophy coming out
of nowhere to take it from to a tongue of Iloa.
It's also a guy who we just assumed would be
headed to Major League Baseball, and Kyler Murray's future was
the topic that we talked about earlier with John Middelcoff,
who hosts the Three and Out podcast on the Herd
podcast Network. Here was a part of our conversation earlier
in the show about the Oklahoma QB. Is one of

(01:25:53):
the great outliers in the league. Obviously short guy and
absolutely comparison to me would be like more of a
faster kind of Russell Wilson because he is a throwing quarterback.
But now I was gonna counter myself, I'd be like, well,
I've stood next to Russell. He's built like a tank,
and like you said, this guy shwort and he's kind
of thin build is different. My recommendation would be this,

(01:26:16):
just go to the combine, get measured, get a feel
for it, run light him up, and just see. He
can be like, well, I'm gonna do both, and he
can go to the combine, just get a feel for it.
It's very difficult to play as a midget quarterback. There's
been two good ones ever, so I'm not saying that
he would. He would for sure be a good NFL player,
but I do think that just the way teams view this,

(01:26:37):
he might get drafted high and Lamar Jackson being the
last pick in the first round, I think, got like
seven and a half million dollars and it's obviously it's fully,
fully guaranteed, and he's now the starter. He would he
could double the amount of money he made in baseball
and immediately be the starter. Then if he fails, he
could always go back to baseball in a couple of years.
And honestly, I think that's the Oakland A's like best hope.

(01:26:59):
Like the more popular that Kyler Murray becomes in football,
the better it is if he ever wants to continue
his baseball career. But you e from salam And as
you heard in the in some of the comments there
when we spoke with John earlier, you are just straight
for Kyler Murray to go to Major League. I would
love for him to go play baseball, become a tremendous,
outstanding baseball player, and reap the benefits of having a long,

(01:27:25):
illustrious career in the bigs. That would be my dream
for him. And you're not saying this as a former
NFL or that you're looking out for his health. You're
just saying, well, maybe you are, because of think both
are are are true. The NFL hurts, Okay, it's a

(01:27:45):
violent sport. It's a collision sport, and every all eleven
people on the opposing defense want to hit one person,
the person with the ball who has the ball more
than the quarterback. No. One at five eight and three
four at the most, maybe five nine. He's not like

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Russell Wilson, because Russell Wilson is bigger. He's stock here, right,
He's closer to five eleven, right. He's not like Drew Brees.
Drew Brees is five ten and a half somewhere in
there and is a pure pocket passer. Enlisted officially, Breeze
is listed six feet not to oh nine even close

(01:28:32):
maybe the two oh nine, but not the six ft,
but that's fine. Kyler Murray is listed at what five
ten five ten? Both of those may be a stretch
and we'll find out if he decides to go to
the combine, we will find out what his real height is.
Because the way they do it at the combine for players,

(01:28:54):
they line you up on the wall, keep your butt
off the wall, stand and lift your toes, look straight ahead,
and they measure you. Like that, there will be no
boosting up off your tippy toes. Your toes will be
off the ground, your heels will be planted firmly, and
they're going to measure you. And I ask you this, Dan,

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in that room of scouts and gms and coaches, when
they have him standing up there and compression shorts, no
shirt and they measure him and they come back with
five eight and something something something, what do you think
the reaction in that room looking at his body frame
and knowing his height will be, Uh, how are we

(01:29:38):
going to do this? We've never seen this before. I
think it would be all right, we gotta do something different.
We've got to figure this out. I don't think that
there's an absolute answer. I guess it's my answer to
your question. I don't think that they would be put off.
I think that they would be stumped of if we're

(01:30:00):
going to take this guy, how are we going to
make this work? How is this going to work? And
I would argue, and and when you see what Kyler
Murray has done, and this is I guess maybe what
I want you to tell me why does it? Why
can it work in college? And it won't work in
the National Football League when we have now seen a

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lot of the college principles transfer over from the college
game to the pro game. Because you have grown men
who have been in college. You'll go up against the
senior right, yeah, he's years old. You're not going up
against a guy thirty three who's been to seven Pro Bowls, right,

(01:30:45):
who's a bona fide assassin on the field, and they're everywhere? Right.
In college, you may play against Southwestern Tennessee Tech. Right,
they wait have one one star recruits on the team.

(01:31:07):
They have no defense, right, I don't know. Maybe two
players in the whole Big twelve will be drafted defensively
in the first round. If that, and then you're going
to be put in a situation where you're going to
go up against the top defenses in the league. You're
going to go up even the best, even the team

(01:31:28):
that was there. The stepping stone is a now valuable
threat in the Cleveland Browns. So you're gonna take this
small statured QB and you're gonna drop him. To quote
the great Onnold Schwartzenegger and the Predator, you took us
all and you dropped us in the meat grinder. Right,

(01:31:49):
You're gonna take this boy and you're gonna drop him
in the meat grinder and expect him to have the
same type of performance no matter what offense you run.
As an offensive coordinator in the NFL, he's too frail
to take those type of hits. Lamar Jackson six two
to twelve, so Wilson five eleven to fifteen. So the
Wilson bulk is there. But would you use Kyler Murray

(01:32:11):
like you would use Lamar Jackson if you're in the
National Football League. They are running him more than any
other other team has run their quarterback this season. How
long do you think Lamar Jackson is going to run
in said offense? No, yeah, I don't think that it's
It's long term viable. So that's what I'm saying. If
you're willing to draft this kid in the first round,

(01:32:32):
give him that money, and then run him like you're
running Lamar Jackson, then you don't You're not looking for
a future. And this is this is where I think
it all comes down to. Because I mentioned earlier in
the show, I did some shows with Bucky Brooks. This week.
He had an NFL guy say to him that you
could see Kyler Murray in the top fifteen. We spoke
with John middle Coffee said top forty that there's a
top forty guy. If you are able to draft a

(01:32:55):
guy thirty second overall like the Baltimore Ravens did with
Lamar Jackson, I'm sorry. I think it's I think it's
unfair that we put Lamar Jackson in the franchise quarterback
conversation from when we want to compare him to Baker Mayfield,
who was used as the first overall pick in the draft.
That's that's maybe not what Baltimore was looking to get
out of the thirty second pick, but if you could
get five years out of him, and five really successful years,

(01:33:18):
then it's worth it. That's where I think It's interesting
with Murray. If you're putting all your chips in for
him to be the eighth overall pick in the draft
to be your franchise quarterback, then you've got to figure
something out. But if you are I don't know, Sean
Payton with the Saints, and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay,
look at how we've used you know, Taysom Hill in situations.
Could we do something with Kyler Murray and end up

(01:33:38):
taking over for Drew Brees for a short period of
time If you're another team that's not the Baltimore Ravens
and looking for another quarterback. It's those things that I
think that are the reason why I think he has
an opportunity to play football. He could be picked overall
and you're not wanting him to be the quarterback for
the next fifteen years. And that's why I think it works.
And and the skills that he brings that I know

(01:34:01):
it's not gonna be and I know it's one play
I should say that can get you hurt, But I
do think that there is a skill set of his
arm and his speed and even a size that could
work for him to have success in the National Football League.
I get that, And if this was his only avenue,
all right, let's roll it. Let's roll the dice and

(01:34:21):
take a shot. Right. But at five eight and a
half a hundred and seventy five pounds and already guarantee
baseball contract, that's what what are we talking about here?
But if, right, we have a certainty he might be
able to are if he does this or possibly right,

(01:34:47):
we're talking about those type of terms and those type
of pronouns. Right, not Hey, he's a sure fire hit. Right,
he has a contract with the Oakland A's. He was
drafted by them. They paid him four point whatever million dollars.
He's a millionaire already. Right, he has an opportunity two

(01:35:11):
play his last couple and if football games in college,
and then go be a tremendous baseball player, depending on
how hard he wants to work, Right, could be a
fift twenty year career in the MLB. I don't know,
but to try to convince me. A former offensive lineman
who blocked from Michael Vick, who's not on the tall side,

(01:35:35):
who was extremely athletic, right, and faster than everybody on
the planet Earth, he still was a giant compared to
Tyler to Kyler, excuse me, Kyler Murray, So you mean
to tell me you're going to convince me six seven
offensive lineman. I know how hard it is for shorter

(01:35:58):
quarterbacks to see over the line. It's a reason why
shorter quarterbacks lead the league and passes by batted down.
There's a reason for that. It's not I'm not speculating
or not right. Yeah, I'm not making this up. This
is a reason. At five eight and a half a
hundred and seventy pounds, it's not conducive to taking the

(01:36:23):
type of punishment they are levied out. Look at Cam Newton.
Cam Newton can't even stand up or throw his He's
one of the biggest quarterbacks I've ever seen in my life. Right,
he can't take the pounding as r G three. Would
he do things different? Right? In two years, talk to
me about Lamar Jackson and how he's faring. If you

(01:36:48):
get if you get that, if you if you get
five years in the NFL, and I know that that's
what many people would like, then you can make the
money that would be if you got eight million guaranteed
from the National Football League, and then maybe if things
worked on you get your fifth year option picked up.
There's a lot more money there. The the the path

(01:37:09):
isn't is is tougher. Two more money in Major League
Baseball because of all the ranks you have to go through.
And John Middlecoff talked about it, Doug talks about it
on the show. I just I would like to see
what he can do. And this may be weird, always there.
You want to see what he can do? Yeah, because

(01:37:30):
I think that I see the NFL evolving, and I
see what it's not getting. The NFL is evolving, but
it's not getting slower or weaker. They're getting stronger, faster, bigger, Right,
And I know the quarterback position you don't have to
be six one, six, two, six three anymore. You can

(01:37:50):
adjust those. But that's on these special cases. Right. Is
Tyler Murray one of these special talent in special cases?
Because he's smaller than every single person that we're talking
about who's done something right, He's smaller than all of them.
So at what point do you go down five six? Right?

(01:38:14):
Do you go down five five? Do you go around
this guy? It's Southwestern Tech, it's five four, but he's
a tremendous quarterback. Where are we but because his his
athletic ability is so great. It's why we see him,
because you don't see that's what's got him to this point.
He's from Salam. I'm Dan Buyer. We gotta cut the
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(01:38:34):
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This is the dung Gottli Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Didn't mean to cut your short on the discussion. We
did go on a while on it. But we are

(01:39:25):
getting some response from the Kyler Murray situation of where
I from just doesn't think that he should play in
the NFL because of I don't think you should play
quarter quarterbacks in the NFL. I never said he couldn't
play in the NFL. If that's a dream of his,
I'm okay with that. I'm I'm I'm fine with that dream.
And someone tweeted, me, Hey, your dream that Kyler Murray

(01:39:47):
pursue a career in baseball may not be his dream.
Come on, man, And that's the real Roman at real
Roman three. And I okay, I understand that. But I
also dreamt of being a pilot it when I was little.
But then I woke up and I was almost six eight,
so that dream had to change, right, So it's not

(01:40:09):
a hey, I'm trying to stomp out your dreams. I
can't fly a plane because I can't fit in a cockpit.
Well what what? What about your Russell Wilson comparisons? Because
we're getting those on Twitter, getting a lot of five
eleven to fifteen. Do you know how far five eight

(01:40:30):
and a half one seventy five is from five eleven
to fifteen? The numbers seemed close enough, but in reality,
amongst grown men in a violent sport like that is
actually I actually this during the break. If Darren Spros
was a quarterback, would he be in the NFL? No,

(01:40:50):
I don't think so. If Tarik Tyreek Hill was a quarterback,
would he be in the NFL? This is what I'm
talking about. But of those individuals have tremendous talent, and
they're oh, by the way, bigger than Kyler Murray. By

(01:41:11):
the way, those two I just named, It's different at
the quarterback position. One missed assignment by a left tackle. One.
Even with smaller defensive ends and outside linebacker, there's still

(01:41:31):
the J. J. Watts, There's still the Aaron Donald's. They're
still the Terrell Sugs. Even with the new rules. We
just saw Nick Folds get shotgun in the chest by
Jadavian Clowney last week. Right, Okay, So even though the

(01:41:51):
rulers are in place to protect quarterbacks, they're still hits
inflicted on them, whether they're flagged or not. If I'm
a GM or an owner, am I going to invest
that type of money and a player who I don't

(01:42:14):
physically and stature thinking hold up to those hits? Right,
We're seeing what Lamar Jackson is doing in Baltimore. What
are looked more Jackson's measurements six to two. That is
three miles away from five eight, and Lamar Jackson is undersized.

(01:42:36):
He can't survive running that type of offense with any
sort of longevity. That is my That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying, hey, I'm crushing your dreams. You're not
gonna make it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying to
play that position at that size for your high your career,

(01:43:01):
everything has to go right. What are the chances of
that happening it? I had heard that the injury rate
in the NFL is like one hundred. There's no gray
area there, There is no gray area. Think about that.
And I'm only saying it because he's already a professional athlete, right,

(01:43:26):
He's already crossed over that threshold that so many of
us want to achieve. So now you're if you're picking
which pro sport to do in my opinion, for longevity,
maybe not for his happen Maybe he loves playing football
and baseball's okay, and I get it, So follow your dreams.

(01:43:47):
If you want to go off for the NFL, off
for the NFL, it's gonna be in my opinion, tougher
to hit the curveball. This coming from an former a
former NFL player, your vet, as the imaging likes to say. Now,
I'm glad you brought up the point because I want
to transition is something that I saw a lot on
social media today. The by the way, the Music City

(01:44:09):
Bowl is done fine, Auburn drops Perdue, and what I
see on Twitter so much from Fox Sports radio personalities
like Colin Cowhard like play Travis like so many is
out out there is saying, see, this is why Ohio

(01:44:30):
State shouldn't be in the playoff. So Ohio States shouldn't
be in the playoff because Perdue didn't show up for
a bowl game. This, this, this narrative of finding ways
of trying to discredit a resume from has bothered me
for weeks because when it was a decision being made,
and we talked a bit about Notre Dame and how
how the only reason Notre Dame is there is because

(01:44:52):
they're undefeated. Everybody wanted them out and they just didn't
play along by losing a game, they ended up in
the field of four. Ohio State not only was put
outside looking in on the College Football Playoff, the committee
thought so strongly that their resume wasn't as impressive that
they put them at number six, behind the two lost

(01:45:13):
Georgia team. And this has been my my argument for
a while with on why I felt Ohio State should
have gotten the no is when you look at their victories,
when you look at their winds, they have two better
victories than Oklahoma's best victory, sorry, a win at home
against Michigan where they crushed the Wolverines were unbeast. Yes,

(01:45:33):
they beat Penn State on the road. Penn State is
higher in the College Football rankings than any of the
winds that Oklahoma had on their schedule, But you know
what the narrative was. There were two things with the narrative. Well,
Ohio State lost by twenty nine to Purdue, that's the difference.
What about if Ohio State doesn't match up well with Perdue.

(01:45:54):
What about if like a Georgia Tech team, And this
is something I talked about earlier this week, that one
week where you just played Georgia Tech that runs the
wishbone and you don't have time to prepare, it becomes
a problem. So maybe it just was a matchup, maybe
it just wasn't their day. But instead of looking at
the grace greatness of what they did, we look at
the weakness. And now we take information like a blowout

(01:46:15):
game and say, see Perdue wasn't good at all. Well,
why would a team that just didn't want to play
a ballgame get a pass? But Purdue doesn't because of
the three or four week layoff that they had. And
then you talk about numbers. And this is the main
point that I want to bring up, because the supporting
argument for Oklahoma was this offense is historic. This is

(01:46:38):
the best offense in college football, and no one wanted
to talk about defense. Oklahoma top point producing offense in
college football. Guess where Ohio State was seven? Okay, that's
pretty close, right, you'd say yards. Ohio State was third,
So Oklahoma was one in Ohio State was third, but

(01:46:59):
nobody was talking about what Ohio State was doing on offense.
That wasn't a part of the equation. And when you
sit there and say about Tyler Murray and Russell Wilson,
when you're comparing them of five eleven to fifteen to
five eight to one eight, the point is this, when
you look at defenses, you know what's not close. Ohio
State was fifty five points allowed this season, fifty fifth

(01:47:21):
in the country. Oklahoma was okay, that's that's a fourth
of college football away yards Ohio State sixty eight Oklahoma.
None of these conversations were brought up yet today. Because
Perdue didn't choose to show up to a bowl game
is the reason why Ohio State was justified of being

(01:47:42):
left out of the playoffs. It's absurd if Georgia beats
Texas by ninety in the Sugar Bowl, which won't happen,
but if there's a blow, I want to hear people
start talking about why Oklahoma shouldn't have been in the playoffs.
We're not gonna get there, but if it does happen,
it should easy From Salama, I'm Dan Buyer. This is
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, College and
Pro Pics on the Horizon after rising blow and Kron

(01:48:05):
gets us today. I'm sorry kind of kind of blew
the surprise on the Music City Bowl ending, but I
know there's more to get to. I don't think as
it relates to the Music City Bowl on the most
disappointed in America right now. Let's put it that way.
How's that for a tease? We started the NFL Fells
Titans listing quarterback Marcus Mariotte is questionable for Sunday nights
game against the Colts. The winner goes to the playoffs,

(01:48:27):
the loser goes home. Mariota today was a limited participant
in practice for the second straight day. Saints head coach
Sean Payton announced that Teddy Bridgewater will start a quarterback
Sunday against the Panthers. New Orleans already Clints the number
one seed in the NFC. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlins's
receiver Antonio Brown having test done today after experiencing knee discomfort.
He's officially listed as questionable Sunday against the Bengals. Rams

(01:48:50):
are holding out Todd Gurley and their regular season finale
Sunday against the forty Niners. In the NBA, Lakers guard
right Jon Rondo had surgery today to repair of sprained
ligam in his right ring finger. Lakers stays expected to
make a full recovery in four to five weeks. In
college football, a final at the Music City Bowl, Auburn
over per Due sixty three to fourteen. The Tigers lad

(01:49:12):
fifty six to seven at halftime. West Virginia and Syracuse,
or scoreless three and a half minutes into the Camping
World Bowl in Orlando, and finally in the NHL. The
Dallas Stars have lost eight of their last twelve, and
their CEO, Jim Lights, just went scorched earth on two
of their top players, Jamie Ben and Tyler Sagan, giving

(01:49:35):
one of the great quotes of eighteen to the Athletic Lights,
said quote, they are bleeping horse bleep. The team was okay,
but Sagan and Ben were terrible. Sagan is hitting goal posts. Wow. Wow,
that's what I say about hitting goalposts. Get a little
bit closer to the action. Actually go to the spot

(01:49:56):
where you score goals. We're going to sleep walk to
another four teens. Play is from the bottom and missed
the playoffs. Unquote Jim Lights entertaining CEO. Wow, that'll play
good with the players. They'll they'll love to hear that. Appreciated.
Isaac Merry Christmas. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on

(01:50:16):
Fox Sports Radio. He's from Salam I'm Dan buy Or.
We are in for Doug today, who was in for
Colin Cowherd on The Herd on Fox Sports One. In
Fox Sports Radio every time, every every Friday. At this time,
I should say during football season, Doug likes to put
his money where his mouth is. We will do the same.
I won't winner. Well, we got him five NFL five College.

(01:50:42):
It's five for five with Doug Gottlian. Let's go five
from it the last time. We can do college as well.
Only next week at this time really only have the
National Championship game. But we have got five bowl games
this weekend that we are going to pick at five
NFL matchups that actually have something on the line. E
from and I will alternate. I'll start out in college

(01:51:03):
football tonight in the Alamo Bowl, which seems to always
be entertaining in San Antonio. Washington State is a two
and a half point favorite against Iowa State. I like
the Cyclones. There's the underdog in this one. Do not
only cover, but also get a victory over Washington State.
From you have got a peach ball matchup tomorrow is

(01:51:24):
part of the New Year's six. Michigan the six point
favorite over the Florida Gators. Michigan playing out without Karen
Higden Devon Bush their linebacker, but the Wolverine still a
six point favorite. I like uh the Wolverines in this
uh like hardball. Maybe his last college game moving would
be moving on to the NFL. A lot of opening

(01:51:45):
spaces there, a lot of and and the money for
the Innfel has moved up for coaches thanks to UH
one John Ruten. So you know, Hun a million dollar
contract that doesn't seem too far fetched for NFL head coach.
So I like Michigan Belk Bowl. South Carolina the five
point favorite against Virginia Belckball one of the better Twitter accounts.
I'm gonna take the game. Cox to win this game

(01:52:06):
and cover the five and a half cotton ball tomorrow
four o'clock Eastern time. Imson the twelve and a half
point favorites over the Notre Dame fighting Irish and I
from has got a smile on his face. I'm picking
the underdog. Note Tre Dame fighting Irish, I will I'm

(01:52:26):
always rooting for the underdog. Which is weird to say
that Notre Dame is an underdog in college football, but
that these are the times we live in. I'm going
to Notre Dame. We gave you the reasons why Notre
Dame is now in underdog in college football earlier in
the show Orange Bowl Alabama minus fourteen against Oklahoma. Alabama
I think is gonna win the game. I do think

(01:52:47):
Oklahoma puts up enough points to at least cover, but
you will see the Crimson Tide getting a victory sooners
cover the spread. Let's go to the NFL where the
Minnesota Vikings need a win against the Chicago Bears. They're
home on Sunday. If the Vikings lose in the Eagles win,
that means Philadelphia is on their way to the playoffs.

(01:53:08):
Philadelphia has got the Redskins. That's not the game we're
talking about. Bears Vikings Minnesota a four and a half
point favorite at home. I'm going Bears. I like what
the Bears are doing. I know they have their thing
locked up, but I think with the team this young,
they're winning ways will carry them through this game. Baltimore
Ravens are a five and a half point favorite. I
note from you wanted this game, but it felt on

(01:53:31):
my side of things. I see how you switched this
up here. I I am going to take the Baltimore
Races to win and cover this five and a half
point spread. The loss earlier to Cleveland I think does
wonders for Baltimore if they would have beaten them in
Cleveland with ease. I think maybe this flies under the

(01:53:52):
radar a bit, but I like the Ravens to not
only win, but cover because of that running game being
so strong. Chiefs are home to the Eaters thirteen and
a half point favorites. Are the Chiefs who have an
opportunity with a win to lock up home field. Chiefs
all day. Uh you know we knew John Gluten had
mailed it in when he started trading off there at well,

(01:54:12):
when he decided not to pay the best player and
then trade off another asset. So Chiefs in this one there.
The Raiders super Bowl may have been last week in
Denver on Monday night. That was That's exactly what it was.
That was it? All right, season's over. I know we
gotta play a game, but the season's over. Chargers in
Denver to take on the Broncos. Chargers are six and
a half point favorites. I know l A needs to

(01:54:34):
win and a Chief's loss to get that number one seed.
I know Denver is playing without Philip Lindsay. I know
that there are injuries and another coming off that short
week in the loss, but it's still Denver, it's still
mile high. Broncos plus six and a half. They may
not win out right, but I like the Broncos against
the Chargers at least to cover on Sunday. And finally

(01:54:57):
from it's the game where the winner it goes and
the loser goes home. The Indianapolis Colts a three and
a half point favorite now against the Titans in a
banged up Marcus Mariota in Nashville. Well, the winner of
this one will go, They'll get back on the plane,
they'll go back to Indianapolis and get ready to travel
for the playoffs. So I'm going with the Coats and

(01:55:19):
the loser will go home, which is good because it's
in Tennessee and they can just go right into the
parking lot and drive home. There it is your five
college at five NFL for weeks seventeen. There it is
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and I went down, bought it at the CD store,
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you're back when you're nineteen, it was kind of difficult
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(01:57:12):
morning with Mike Harmon on Fox Football Fantasy as we
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We get caught up to date on the big stories
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lot was happening in college football. Earlier today in Nashville,
the Music City Bowl saw Auburn defeat per Due sixty
three to fourteen. The Tigers led this game fifty six
to seven at halftime, and Auburn even apparently exhausted its
own radio announcer, I'm gonna play you the Carls of

(01:58:00):
their first and last touchdowns of the game from Auto
radio announcer Rod Bramlet, legendary voice on i MG. So
here comes the first touchdown, and then I'm gonna play
you the last touchdown. Jared said him a jap step.
Now we'll throw it, plot it up from fifty. He's
got it this side forty to the middle of thirty.

(01:58:21):
Dad five touchdown. So that was the first touchdown, very enthusiastic.
Here was the last touchdown. Shivers to the left of Stidham,
Ryan Davis in motion left to right, back to the left,
pitching a hand of Davis, turns it into the near
far hash Barket. He's adding that touchdown Forriah Davis. Touchdown

(01:58:45):
all burnest. So a slight difference in the dast Oh
and you've had nine to shoots from it happens. I'll
tell you what that is. The whole entire second half.
All you're looking at is the clock. Yep. How far
away are we from getting out of here? I just
want to go home. Oh great stuff out of the NFL,

(01:59:06):
and the Steelers have to be pretty concerned. Their head
coach Mike Tomlins said today that their star receiver Antonio
bron having tests done it today. No word on the
results of those tests, Yet after he experienced knee discomfort,
he was given the day off from practice to begin
with yesterday as a rest day, but he was off
from practice today because of the knee discomfort. Officially listed

(01:59:28):
is questionable for their game Sunday against the Bengals. I
find this quickly interesting. Is the Steelers Ravens have such
a great rivalry in the NFL that the NFL isn't
gonna put that as a Week seventeen game because you
want it during the regular season. So the Steelers really
have either the Bengals or the Bronze to play in
Week seventeen. And it was last year when they were
going for the winless season that the Steelers ended up

(01:59:49):
beating the Browns with everybody resting for Pittsburgh anyway, could
you imagine if it was Brown's Steelers this week, Oh
my goodness. And I know Bronze Ravens is gonna be good,
But if it was on Steelers this week without Antonio Brown,
and that would have been something Steelers Isaac said, Have
the Bengals instead. I think they can actually get by
without Antonio, I believe against the Bengals and whoever that is,

(02:00:11):
they have a quarterback. I think they'll be by the
way quickly. On the Bengals, I thought about this. Remember
the Bengals actually were flexed in the Sunday nights they
have their game against the Chiefs. Like, that's how quickly
their season turned to New Yes, at one point they
were actually flexed in that and then they were blown
out in that game. But yeah, how quickly things turned
in Cincinnati. Earlier today, New Orleans Saints head coach Sean

(02:00:33):
Payton had an announcement to make about their regular season
finale on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. It was a
happy announcement, but listen to the strangely terse tone by
Sean Payton and making the announcement. Bridgewater will start a quarterback,

(02:00:55):
Let's just leave it at that. He got mad earlier
this week because he was asked about rest players and
he said, Nope, nope, nope, not gonna do it, not
gonna talk, nope, nope, we'll figure it out, We'll do whatever. Nope,
nope nope. So of Sean Payton, who usually is pretty
good with the media, just doesn't want to talk about
resting players as his team is the first round by
and home field advantage. Yeah, I mean, they have nothing

(02:01:17):
to gain, So get some guys in there who you
want to get some experience and want to see what
they have just in case something catastrophic happens in the playoffs.
You know, you you know their backups can come in
and give you some suitable effort. That's it. I love it,
and I love their uh postgame celebration. After that, it's
a showcase for Teddy Bridgewater and we'll probably see some

(02:01:40):
more of Taysom Hill at quarterback. That's a good point.
You do everything guy. Finally, in the NBA, Los Angeles
Lakers guard right Gen Rondo underwent surgery today to repair
a sprained ligament in his right ring finger. Lakers say
Rondo is expected to make a full recovery in four
to five weeks from things. This is a bigger deal
than it is, right, I do, and I think it.

(02:02:01):
I think it's better for launtal Ball to be able
to continue to grow this year and not have region
they're splitting time with him, So I think this is
it is gonna work out more for UH ball. The
biggest the the l A showcase for l A tonight,
Clippers and Lakers on a back to back with no Lebron.

(02:02:22):
The biggest injury news will be when Lebron James can
come back from his growing injury. And that is backing
out there that the press, I know, I asked you earlier,
Alabama and Notre Dame would be the final that you
like to Okay, is is there anything at all that
would make you want to see Clemson Notre Dame more

(02:02:43):
than Alabama Oklahoma? Is that just the biggest gap. That's
that's a big yeah. And and that goes to the
back to the point about Notre Dame again on the undercard,
even their game, they're the appetizer to the main course
that is the Orange Bowl tomorrow night. Easy from Salam
I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug Gottlie today here on
Fox Sports Radio, straight out of Vegas. Next

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