January 7, 2019 • 27 mins
After watching NFL Wild Card Weekend, Doug points to two players who need to take blame for their team’s losses. He also tells you why the Eagles are better off with Carson Wentz despite Nick Foles’ success in the post season. Plus, former NFL general manager Michael Lombardi joins the show to tell Doug whether the Cowboys can continue winning with Dak Prescott at QB.
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in.
I hope you had a great, great sports weekend. I
know we did. Not only two and two in the picks.
Don't worry. He wasn't not like sit here doing some
end zone dancing. But I got lots of takeaways, lots
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of takeaways. Um, we're very results oriented at times in
our analysis. Right, Like I'm being told now, being told
now that Dak Prescott is amazing Dak Prescott, and I was, like,
I watched Dak press on and he was Okay. They
have a very good running game. He made a great
throw down around the goal line right, good coverage, better
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throw and ends up throwing a beautiful touchdown past they
win the game against the Seattle Seahawks. They dominated the
line of scrimmage, rushed for more yards. He did scramble
late for his own touchdown. But I mean, I don't know.
You ask anybody who knows anything about football, Dak Prescott,
Russell Wilson, not only who is better, who played better?
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And they'll tell you Russell Wilson played better. But oh
the puffing of the chest, don't tell me. Dak Prescott
is not greay. Look at his record. Here's what I've determined.
Couple of things. Dak Prescott's basically Samorrow all right, Tomorrow
Smorrow pizza. Sporrow pizza is delicious. There's nothing wrong with it.
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There's not that much right about it, but nothing wrong
about it. Depending on where you're from. And Chicago people
will tell you, like the Deep Dish pizza is really
from people outside of Chicago who come to Chicago and
they're like, I need something different and need something unique,
and then came up with this Deep Dish thing. But
Chicago people don't actually get into the Deep Dish thing.
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But like, let's say you're in New York and you
want pizza, do you go to Sabarrow No, but if
you run into a spot where you need a good
size of pizza, the news, No, it's gonna be fine.
You get samorrow. So Dak Prescott is not a top five,
not a top ten, probably not a top fifteen quarterback
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in the National Football League. But he's also not a
bottom five or bottom ten quarterback in the league. He's
not bad. He's not bad. He's not great, he's not spectacular.
He's not Hey, you gotta go try this place. It's
over on First and First, the nexus of the universe.
That's a Seinfeld line. If you know anything about it anyway,
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you gotta go try. No, No, you don't. No one
tells their friend like, hey, it's like there's a Michael Scott.
My favorite pizza place in New York from the office
is Sabarrow. Nobody tells their friends like, Hey, next time
you're in the big city, you gotta try Saborrow. But
it's fine. And when they have a good running game
and when their defense dominates, and when they make enough
plays and the kicker makes kicks, then they'll be good. Fine,
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We've got into this real weird place in sports where
we can't be mean anymore. That's the other kind of takeaway. Oh,
here's the one other thing about Sabarrow and uh and
our boy Dak Prescott now because Jerry Jones has said
we're gonna give him a contract extension even though they
don't have to, because he's been underpaid as the rookie
starting quarterback, in the second year starting quarterback and now
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a third year starting quarterback with the Cowboys. Because of
how the CBA works, you can't renegotiate his deal until
this upcoming off season. It's like airports, Saborrow. We're like, man,
there's no other place I can go to get a
slice of pizza and they're gonna charge me hand bucks
and then it's like fifteen bucks if you put like
five Pepperoni's on it. Now, it doesn't mean that Sabarro
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pizza is now bad, it's not. It also doesn't mean
it's spectacular. It's not. But you got you're gonna go
outside the airport then then go back to security look
for a side spezza. No, that's where the Cowboys are airports. Sabarrow.
Okay um, I don't know where we got to this
point in sports where we can't give tough critique anymore.
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We can't be legitimately honest about somebody's play, whether it's
Cody Parkey missing a fairly routine game winning field goal
or Lamar Jackson's pathetic performance at quarterback yesterday. Now you
can sit there and tell me, hey, Lamar Jackson through
two touchdowns, you know, had a couple of touchdowns to
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two touchdown passes late they came back in. Really he
had three fumbles in like the first five minutes of
the game. They had two yards passing at halftime. The
Chargers could not have been more conservative, and the Ravens
defense could not have been better, and they still couldn't
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get out of first gear. As I told you last
week and the week before and the week before, your
takeaway from the NFL Draft should be damn those guys
who do it are really, really, really good. Not the
people who react to it. Not the idiots on Twitter
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or in the media, or on radio or people like me.
The people who for a living invest their lives and
put their names on pieces of paper where they breakdown
tape and talk to people within programs should be commended
for nailing not one, not two, not three. Every single
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one of the rookie starting quarterbacks is exactly as advertised.
It's unbelievable. What's the scout on Baker Mayfield. He's smart,
he's tough, he's super accurate. He's a little tall, a
little small. He carries a chip on his shoulder and
sometimes it'll cause him to try and do a bit
too much. His ego is massive, but guys like playing
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for him. On the other hand, there are some athletic
limitations that he has, unlike the Russell Wilson who people
like to believe that he is. Sam Donald was the
number one rated prospect on just about everybody's board outside
the Cleveland Browns. He is tough, he is smart. He
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hasn't played a ton of football as a starter as
as compared to a Baker Mayfield. Maybe not as sharp
in terms of reading and understanding and processing, but pretty
damn good. Guys really like him. He's not nearly as
outspoken and long term, he's got the best upside. How
am I doing so far? Josh Rosen looks the part,
but there's a little bit frail. There's a fear of injury,
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and there's the fear that if he suffers a couple
of injuries. Because he comes from a background whereas doctors
parents are one of his parents a doctor, he might
shut it down early. He also is a guy who
hasn't won at the college level, and it's caused coaches
to get fired. Am I doing so far? Josh Allen
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looks the part. He'll throw a ball or two a
game like damn. Then he'll throw a ball or two
a game like damn. Who's he throwing too? And then
there's Lamar Jackson, who is far behind everyone else in
terms of processing what he's seeing, wildly inaccurate on underneath
an intermediate throws and has to run it because that's
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what he does. His best skill is the skill that
is least called upon long term for quarterbacks, and if
you're gonna play him, you gotta play him in a
more simplistic high school or college offense where it's one
read and if not then run. And that's an offense
that works if you get a lead and play from ahead,
because if you gotta get if you're behind, it just
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takes too much time and too much effort, and it
gets figured out the second time. People see how am
I doing? But instead it's you can't be mean towards Lamar.
He's just a rookie how Cody Parky missed a fifty
three forty three yard field goal at home? Now, were
there a series of errors from his coaching staff Matt
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Naggy or a rookie head coach who could have called
time out earlier in the previous defensive possession. Absolutely? Could
you point out the fact that they had a a
personal foul on a previous drive that extended a drive
for the Bears and that led to a touchdown. Sure
you can point those out, but but I'm not talking
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about the psychotic fanboy I want to harm Parking or
he is not a human being, but saying it's not
his fault on it's a forty three yard field goal,
which is about a shot at home. And yes it's
been the ruling has been changed that the field goal
was actually tipped at the line of scrimmage. But I
followed J Feeley on Twitter. J Feel, of course works
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for CBS, called the game and he pointed out there
was no pressure, that tick was too low, that one's
on Parky can't be touched. It's okay for all of
America to go, Yeah, Cody Parker blew the game. Do
you know why? Because his job is to make forty
three yards at home. That's his job. He didn't do
his job. That's the whole thing about sports. And when
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he don't do your job, you receive criticism, not ridiculous
criticism about the type of human being you are. It's
the same thing with Lar Jackson. He was awful yesterday.
Does it mean he's an awful human being? No? Does
it mean it makes it more difficult for the Ravens
to figure out their long term future because he can't
run it fifteen sixteen times a game and think he's
not gonna get hurt. But if you make him oh
it times, he's just not that accurate. And he clearly
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can't hold onto a football. These are This is the
reason analysis exists. And if you want you were great,
you know you were great. I know you didn't like.
This is not five year old soccer. This isn't even
the voice which tells everybody, even the people they don't
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turn around from listen. I know none of us turn
around our chairs. I know it sounded like fingernails and
the chalkboard. But you you're you're brave for standing on
that stage and singing when you can't sing. You it's
American Idol. You're terrible, the old American idol that had
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Simon American Idol. It's fair to give critique. It's fair
to point out somebody's failings. It's absolutely positively fair to say, hey,
you know what, Adie Parking with that game, Lamar Jackson
wasn't good enough and oh yeah, by the way, as
a rookie quarterback, he looked like somebody who the moment
was too big for. This is fair analysis. Be sure
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to catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leap Show
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Michael Lombardi is
a former general manager in the NFL. He's got a
great podcast, it's called gm Streach Downloaded. He also has
an outstanding book. It's called Gridiron Genius, A master class
and winning championships and building dynasties in the National Football League.
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And uh, let's let's start last night. We'll work backwards
with you. Um, everybody's pointing to Parki's miss field goal.
But there were other things. There was the lack of
efficiency offensively, the defense didn't get a stop when they
needed to get a stop. And Matt Naggie didn't call
time outs when he could have been given them more
time to get even closer down down the field. What's
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your takeaway from the Eagles lost to the Bears at home?
The Bears lost Eagles at home? Part Mo DELI to
say to me all the time, kid, I'm not second guessing,
I'm first guessing yet. And I'm first guesting Matt Nage
because I think he had no business playing the Eagles.
I really think the Paris should have just rested their
players once they saw that the Rams were running away
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with the game against the forty niners. They had no
chance to get the number two seed, and they let
a tiger into the tournament. And this tiger of the
Philadelphia Eagles. His defense has really been the story. Now.
Everybody talks about Nick Foles, and certainly all Sean Jeffery
has been remarkable as well, But the reality here is
their defense has been very good, and that very good
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defense helps held the Bears to five or sixteen on
third down. And when you have sixteen third downs in
the game, that means you have no control of the game.
You're not moving it, you're not making big plays, You're
always in third down and it showed up and that's
why they only scored fifteen points. That's why they weren't
able to really put the game away. And we look
at the final two minutes of the game and think,
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all while, I think the Bears going through that entire
game really didn't play well enough to win and they
should have been playing the Vikings instead. Uh the the Yeah,
that's fascinting. The Nick Foles story, which is amazing. Um, look,
they changed the playbooks some but if if you're running
that organization, what are your thoughts on how you use
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fuls in the future when Wentz comes back, I mean,
Whence is their quarterback? I mean folds really, I mean
when we break the Foles down yesterday through two interceptions
that they were bad. The one interception was horrendous. You know,
he makes the play I sound completely ironic. Nobody has
written about this. The play that the Eagles win the
game on to a that's called it's basically split right
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option in the old Bill Wolfs terminology was the same
play that the Falcons called the year before he failed
up here that Julio Tones fell down down within the
back of the end zone. Yeah, we fell down first
right and then he jumped up and then then he
dropped the ball. But yeah, same play, same play, And
you know, I mean foals, I didn't think Folds made
some really good pros in the game. But the defense,
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you know, they helped the Bears to to really no
run game at all, and Tropisky up until the last drive,
really wasn't making any place. That he hit Robins city under,
you know the double move with Robinson that he kind
of doesn't throw perfectly and the kid falls down. He
could have walked in the end zone if that's hits
him in stride. A lot of throws that to me,
you know, weren't perfect. And you know, he threw the
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ball forty three times in the game. He tried to
run it. You know, they had three runs and every
time and nobody was open, he took off to roam
with the football. The Bears offense just didn't make any place.
And I thought the Bears blocked the Eagles as well
as as most teams have down the stretch. But at
the end of the day, to me, it was the
Eagles defense and getting back to Nick Foles. I mean,
Whence is their quarterback, it's just Jeffrey has come on
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so much on the outside that's really helped the offense. Um,
I'm looking at the Ravens and one. I thought the
Chargers won the game up front. Their defensive line was outstanding.
Everybody's tide by their defensive backs, but the defensive line
that front four was was outstanding. That said, Lamar was
not playing well. Uh you know, look, CBS doesn't normally
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talk about pulling quarterbacks, and they were talking about pulling quarterback.
What would you have advised when you go in the
half and your offense is playing that poorly. Well. I
think there's two things. I think there's the fans, all
of us who don't work in that locker room and
don't understand how those players do Lamar Jackson, and I
think it's easy for us to say make the substitution,
And certainly I would. I was one of those people
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on Twitter saying I think it's time to go to Flacco.
That being said, I think Hardball did the right thing.
I think his team is more important than just making
a change. And I think instead of listening to the
guy down on the docks in Baltimore Harbor, the Frank
Savaka's I think it's better to listen to his locker room,
and he did, and I think that was really important
because the team would have gone haywire on him, and
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he made that change. There was a reason they were bad.
And Lamar was horrible, don't get me wrong, and I'm
a Labar fan, And he was not very effective in
the game, but their offensive line was really the story
of ineffectiveness in the game. Melvin Ingram was sensational and
they couldn't block him, and I think that was really
the part of the game that became so disruptive for him. Um,
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what about Lamar in the future can I mean, look,
I've talked to people on the league like he's just
that's kind of who he is. He's just he can
be so inaccurate on some throws and and he has
to run in a bunch where you think he's gonna
get hurt. That they're obviously pot committed on Lamar Jackson
the future. But but we've seen these got we've seen
this type of quarterback in the past. One get hurt
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and two the more times you see him, the more
you kind of figure out what they what they can do.
What do you think the long term prognosis is of
Lamar in Baltimore. I think John Harball, if he signs
an extension in Baltimore, he's got to find an offensive
coordinator that can take some of the college game and
bring it into Baltimore. And I think that Marty morning
Wig is so stuck in the West Coast. I think
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there was a horrible job of adjusting in that game
when they were in seven defensive backs and the and
still the Ravens couldn't run the football. I think there's
gotta be more time spent on developing months of passer
and really teller an offense around him that suits. But
I'm not sure that in fairness to Marty morning when
it's the right guy for the job, I think Marty
has always been a West Coast guy. He's trying to
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make Joe Flacco into a West Coast guy. That hasn't worked.
Joe Flacco is a play action pass quarterback and I
think that that has affected him. So for me, I
think it's a developmental stage. He's twenty one years old.
I saw Lamar Jackson play as a freshman, and I
could say he looked a little bit like he did
last night. Not very effective, and by his sophomore year
it was, oh my, this guy's really coming along. I
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think you gotta give it some time before you make
a judgment. Look, I'm telling you, Trabiskis is a Trabisky
may not be as wildly inaccurate, but he is inaccurate
as well. Same thing with the Shawn Watson. You've got
to refine these quarterbacks. They're not finished products. Oh no,
I I agree with you that accuracy is the hardest
thing to fix, isn't it. It is, it really is.
And I think you've got to give some receivers around
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him that that have the great with a great length.
Catch radius is so important, and they have great hands,
and that's something the Ravens don't have. They drop even
when Lamar makes some throws like the slant that gets
for the interception, I mean, you gotta make It's a
bad throw. I though it's high, but it hit the
kid right in the hands and he didn't catch it.
Michael Lombardi joining us Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
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Sports Radio. UM, the Seahawks were obviously very conservad in
their game plan. Were they rightly conservative because of their
inability protecting This is kind of who they are run
the football and turn it over to Russell late or
were they too conservative and that's ultimately what came back
to bite them. But when you look at the stats,
you say, well, Russell played pretty good at two and
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thirty three yards passed, well, he had a hundred eight
going into the last draw, and they had twenty four
carries for seventy three yards in the game. But really,
when you break it down, they had twenty three carries
for forty four yards. Because if you take away the
ra Shard Penny long run, they couldn't do it anything.
They had too many bad plays, Doug. You can't have
that many bad plays and not change what you're doing.
When they ran play action passed they were so effective
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they were able to fold the defense and even when
they repeated the same plays they were successful. I think
the Seahawks were too late to the party and it
cost him. I mean, look, they were two for thirteen
on third down and they allowed the Cowboys to control
the ball over thirty four minutes. And when you do that,
you're not gonna help yourself to win. This whole notion
you have to run the football in the playoffs as
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a joke. Running the football in the playoffs produces field goals,
it doesn't give you points, and you can't get control
of the game. And I think Seattle learned that they
needed to let Russell Wilson play, but I knew all
along they were never gonna do it because that's not
what Pete wanted. They got to where they were from
running the football. You mentioned Deshaun Watson's inaccuracies, Uh, some
of it's obviously also offensive line. How much credit do
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you think Andrew luck should get considering his defensive outstanding
and and his offensive line was really good, and t
Y Hilton's great, and we know that the Texans can't
cover t Y. I think Andrew Lucks played really well.
I think Frank Writs done a wonderful job. I think
the one thing that I was wondering watching the games
by Sunday night, who is the Frank Wright of coaching
that we're overlooking? Because, Doug, if you remember this time
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last year, Frank Wright was on no one's radar. I
wrote a column about it today in The Athletic, basically saying,
who is this year's Frank Right Who's going to get
the opportunity even though he's not electable, and the NFL
has become a profession of elected, not selected, and because
it's elected, you have to carry the Southern primaries. You've
got to win all these you've got to be young
and vibrant and almost beat Camelot like And I think
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we're missing a complete whole section of really good coaches,
like Don Martindell of the Baltimore Ravens, the guy who
did a tremendous job twice against Philip Rivers, and yet
he's not even getting an interview. It's just not right.
You know that their defense is unbelievable yesterday considering the
fuel position and things they were working against. What what's
how does? How does? As a former front office guy,
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and you know, everybody in this league, the King's very
thing is really interesting. I know it's a different job.
There's no recruiting, you're not at you're not at the
disadvantage of Texas Tech. And I get that he's an
offensive savant, but he did just get fired at Texas Tech,
and now he appears to be a legitimate candidate for
a couple of these jobs. What are people in the
NFL saying Kingsbury's candidacy. But what I wrote about really
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was how the Sean mcveigh's ruined the NFL. Everybody's looking
for the next Sean McVeigh. And what I said today
in my column is what happens if there isn't another
Sean McVeigh, Just like there's not another Bill Belichick. You
know that you can't keep trying to find the next guy.
Find your own guy. And look, I like Cliff and
I think Cliff is a really good offensive mine, but
his defense could never get fixed at Texas Tech. And
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there's a reason for that, just like there's a reason
why Lincoln Riley couldn't fix his defenseive Oklahoma. You know,
we talked about Lincoln Riley in Tom Landry like terms,
when in reality, he watched practice every single day at Oklahoma.
He watched that defense. When was he going to get
it fixed? When was he going to get it fixed?
And I think those are the issues you have to
concern yourself with. Look, Doug, there's been sixteen head coaches
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fired in the last twelve months of the National Football League.
That tells you there's a huge problem a and evaluating
the coaches, being helping the coaches, and being select and
seeing selecting the coaches. Michael Lombardi, He used to select coaches.
Now he just helped s us learn about football. His
book is Gridiron Genius, A master class and winning championships
and building dynasties in the NFL. His podcast GM Street Michael,
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thanks so much for joining us. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show week days
in noon eastern three pm Pacific. We do this thing,
We do this thing where we I mean, I've I've
heard it now several times over. I mean Nick Foles,
it's unbelievable one again in the playoffs and whether it's
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Nick Foles or whether it's I don't know, I mean,
pick the quarterback. In terms of winning and losing in
the playoffs, we go way too crazy at times getting
the trying to be results oriented, right, trying to figure
out the results. You know, there's no Gordon Hayward, no
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Kyrie Irving. So look we don't need them. Trade one
of them better without them, Okay, Like, look, the market
would dictate if eyes were free agents. You know, It's
like Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson, if they were both
on the open market, who would be more valuable. There's
no one in football would take Dak Prescott ahead of
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Russell Wilson. No one the same number of people would
take Nick Foles ahead of Carson Wentz. But social media
and immediate reaction would tell you Nick Foles, they were
winning with him. And I know he got a million
dollar bonus for winning last night, but we're winning with
him Carson Wentz. For Carson Wentz before he got hurt
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last year was eleven and two thirty three touchdowns, seven interceptions.
He basically had the m v P locked up, and
then against Rams's Rams they lost. He got hurt, try
to run the football kind of got twisted and towards
a c l. Nick Foles, after winning a super Bowl
to start this season, was awful in the preseason Week
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one against the Falcons, no touchdowns, one reception, one fumble,
completed fifty of his passes for a hundred and seventeen yards. Oh,
they won the game. Nick Foles one. No, the Eagles
won the game. Week two, they lost to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, who had their own Nick Foles. Right that
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was back when Ryan fits Magic. With under one minute
remaining in the third quarter, they were losing twenty seven
to seven. So sure against the prevent defense, he put
up some numbers to garbage minute garbage time touchdowns and
with forty five seconds left in the game they made
one kicked an onside kicking and get it right, that
does not that's Lamar Jackson from yesterday. He was awful yesterday. Now,
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whether or not you want to say Foles is better
than Lamar Jackson, made better than Lamar Jackson will ever be.
But the idea that you take final stats when it
doesn't tell the story of the game, watch the game.
Even last year in the playoffs, everybody remembers the Super
Bowl where he made some great throws against a very
average Patriots defense, or even against the Vikings who had
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a great defense but no touchdowns. Two fumbles in Division
Round against the Falcons and Julio Jones first fell down
and then couldn't catch a ball thrown up to him
in the end zone. Falcons are on the two yard line.
Arn't throw by Matt Ryan to his best player. Otherwise,
Nick Foles loses at home to the Falcons, who are
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the wild card road winner and known as a dome team,
not a cold weather team. So I'm not sitting here.
I'm not gonna have Dictator Radio determined that a radio
radio show determined that Nick Foles stinks. But if he's
on the open market, you know he's a bottom five
of the starting quarterbacks in the league sort of guy.
He's a great, dude, great. That's why he's the perfect
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guy for this situation. That's why he knew. And I
don't want to go anywhere else. They know me, they
know my mistakes, they oh my flaws. I know I'll
get a chance to play, but I also know I
got Carson, and when push comes to shove, it's his team.
Anyone who tells you that Dak is better than Russell,
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I'm on the open market. Anyone who tells you that
wins isn't as good as Folds put him on the
open market the only way you would ever know. I mean,
even even the Eagles new right, there's a reason they
rushed Carson Wentz back like and Folds won the game.
Yesterday wasn't great. Two Picks did throw a touchdown past
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the end of the game. It was helped out by
the fact that the Bears are quarterback by a guy who,
like another Mr. Robinski, is a great dude. They love
him because he's not Jay Cutler, who no one liked.
But he's not that good thrower as a thrower of
a football. Nick Foles is doing his job. He's holding
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the fort together, doing as well as he can until
Carson Wentz is healthy. And he's also a hot and
cold guy. Goes hot, goes cold, and Eagle fans gave
me the business because I said, like, look, he's basically
Ryan Fitzpatrick without the beard and cool nickname. But he
is three four good games and then people start to
figure him out. In the Bears got start to figure
him out.
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in.
I hope you had a great, great sports weekend. I
know we did. Not only two and two in the picks.
Don't worry. He wasn't not like sit here doing some
end zone dancing. But I got lots of takeaways, lots
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of takeaways. Um, we're very results oriented at times in
our analysis. Right, Like I'm being told now, being told
now that Dak Prescott is amazing Dak Prescott, and I was, like,
I watched Dak press on and he was Okay. They
have a very good running game. He made a great
throw down around the goal line right, good coverage, better
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throw and ends up throwing a beautiful touchdown past they
win the game against the Seattle Seahawks. They dominated the
line of scrimmage, rushed for more yards. He did scramble
late for his own touchdown. But I mean, I don't know.
You ask anybody who knows anything about football, Dak Prescott,
Russell Wilson, not only who is better, who played better?
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And they'll tell you Russell Wilson played better. But oh
the puffing of the chest, don't tell me. Dak Prescott
is not greay. Look at his record. Here's what I've determined.
Couple of things. Dak Prescott's basically Samorrow all right, Tomorrow
Smorrow pizza. Sporrow pizza is delicious. There's nothing wrong with it.
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There's not that much right about it, but nothing wrong
about it. Depending on where you're from. And Chicago people
will tell you, like the Deep Dish pizza is really
from people outside of Chicago who come to Chicago and
they're like, I need something different and need something unique,
and then came up with this Deep Dish thing. But
Chicago people don't actually get into the Deep Dish thing.
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But like, let's say you're in New York and you
want pizza, do you go to Sabarrow No, but if
you run into a spot where you need a good
size of pizza, the news, No, it's gonna be fine.
You get samorrow. So Dak Prescott is not a top five,
not a top ten, probably not a top fifteen quarterback
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in the National Football League. But he's also not a
bottom five or bottom ten quarterback in the league. He's
not bad. He's not bad. He's not great, he's not spectacular.
He's not Hey, you gotta go try this place. It's
over on First and First, the nexus of the universe.
That's a Seinfeld line. If you know anything about it anyway,
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you gotta go try. No, No, you don't. No one
tells their friend like, hey, it's like there's a Michael Scott.
My favorite pizza place in New York from the office
is Sabarrow. Nobody tells their friends like, Hey, next time
you're in the big city, you gotta try Saborrow. But
it's fine. And when they have a good running game
and when their defense dominates, and when they make enough
plays and the kicker makes kicks, then they'll be good. Fine,
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We've got into this real weird place in sports where
we can't be mean anymore. That's the other kind of takeaway. Oh,
here's the one other thing about Sabarrow and uh and
our boy Dak Prescott now because Jerry Jones has said
we're gonna give him a contract extension even though they
don't have to, because he's been underpaid as the rookie
starting quarterback, in the second year starting quarterback and now
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a third year starting quarterback with the Cowboys. Because of
how the CBA works, you can't renegotiate his deal until
this upcoming off season. It's like airports, Saborrow. We're like, man,
there's no other place I can go to get a
slice of pizza and they're gonna charge me hand bucks
and then it's like fifteen bucks if you put like
five Pepperoni's on it. Now, it doesn't mean that Sabarro
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pizza is now bad, it's not. It also doesn't mean
it's spectacular. It's not. But you got you're gonna go
outside the airport then then go back to security look
for a side spezza. No, that's where the Cowboys are airports. Sabarrow.
Okay um, I don't know where we got to this
point in sports where we can't give tough critique anymore.
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We can't be legitimately honest about somebody's play, whether it's
Cody Parkey missing a fairly routine game winning field goal
or Lamar Jackson's pathetic performance at quarterback yesterday. Now you
can sit there and tell me, hey, Lamar Jackson through
two touchdowns, you know, had a couple of touchdowns to
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two touchdown passes late they came back in. Really he
had three fumbles in like the first five minutes of
the game. They had two yards passing at halftime. The
Chargers could not have been more conservative, and the Ravens
defense could not have been better, and they still couldn't
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get out of first gear. As I told you last
week and the week before and the week before, your
takeaway from the NFL Draft should be damn those guys
who do it are really, really, really good. Not the
people who react to it. Not the idiots on Twitter
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or in the media, or on radio or people like me.
The people who for a living invest their lives and
put their names on pieces of paper where they breakdown
tape and talk to people within programs should be commended
for nailing not one, not two, not three. Every single
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one of the rookie starting quarterbacks is exactly as advertised.
It's unbelievable. What's the scout on Baker Mayfield. He's smart,
he's tough, he's super accurate. He's a little tall, a
little small. He carries a chip on his shoulder and
sometimes it'll cause him to try and do a bit
too much. His ego is massive, but guys like playing
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for him. On the other hand, there are some athletic
limitations that he has, unlike the Russell Wilson who people
like to believe that he is. Sam Donald was the
number one rated prospect on just about everybody's board outside
the Cleveland Browns. He is tough, he is smart. He
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hasn't played a ton of football as a starter as
as compared to a Baker Mayfield. Maybe not as sharp
in terms of reading and understanding and processing, but pretty
damn good. Guys really like him. He's not nearly as
outspoken and long term, he's got the best upside. How
am I doing so far? Josh Rosen looks the part,
but there's a little bit frail. There's a fear of injury,
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and there's the fear that if he suffers a couple
of injuries. Because he comes from a background whereas doctors
parents are one of his parents a doctor, he might
shut it down early. He also is a guy who
hasn't won at the college level, and it's caused coaches
to get fired. Am I doing so far? Josh Allen
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looks the part. He'll throw a ball or two a
game like damn. Then he'll throw a ball or two
a game like damn. Who's he throwing too? And then
there's Lamar Jackson, who is far behind everyone else in
terms of processing what he's seeing, wildly inaccurate on underneath
an intermediate throws and has to run it because that's
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what he does. His best skill is the skill that
is least called upon long term for quarterbacks, and if
you're gonna play him, you gotta play him in a
more simplistic high school or college offense where it's one
read and if not then run. And that's an offense
that works if you get a lead and play from ahead,
because if you gotta get if you're behind, it just
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takes too much time and too much effort, and it
gets figured out the second time. People see how am
I doing? But instead it's you can't be mean towards Lamar.
He's just a rookie how Cody Parky missed a fifty
three forty three yard field goal at home? Now, were
there a series of errors from his coaching staff Matt
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Naggy or a rookie head coach who could have called
time out earlier in the previous defensive possession. Absolutely? Could
you point out the fact that they had a a
personal foul on a previous drive that extended a drive
for the Bears and that led to a touchdown. Sure
you can point those out, but but I'm not talking
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about the psychotic fanboy I want to harm Parking or
he is not a human being, but saying it's not
his fault on it's a forty three yard field goal,
which is about a shot at home. And yes it's
been the ruling has been changed that the field goal
was actually tipped at the line of scrimmage. But I
followed J Feeley on Twitter. J Feel, of course works
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for CBS, called the game and he pointed out there
was no pressure, that tick was too low, that one's
on Parky can't be touched. It's okay for all of
America to go, Yeah, Cody Parker blew the game. Do
you know why? Because his job is to make forty
three yards at home. That's his job. He didn't do
his job. That's the whole thing about sports. And when
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he don't do your job, you receive criticism, not ridiculous
criticism about the type of human being you are. It's
the same thing with Lar Jackson. He was awful yesterday.
Does it mean he's an awful human being? No? Does
it mean it makes it more difficult for the Ravens
to figure out their long term future because he can't
run it fifteen sixteen times a game and think he's
not gonna get hurt. But if you make him oh
it times, he's just not that accurate. And he clearly
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can't hold onto a football. These are This is the
reason analysis exists. And if you want you were great,
you know you were great. I know you didn't like.
This is not five year old soccer. This isn't even
the voice which tells everybody, even the people they don't
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turn around from listen. I know none of us turn
around our chairs. I know it sounded like fingernails and
the chalkboard. But you you're you're brave for standing on
that stage and singing when you can't sing. You it's
American Idol. You're terrible, the old American idol that had
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Simon American Idol. It's fair to give critique. It's fair
to point out somebody's failings. It's absolutely positively fair to say, hey,
you know what, Adie Parking with that game, Lamar Jackson
wasn't good enough and oh yeah, by the way, as
a rookie quarterback, he looked like somebody who the moment
was too big for. This is fair analysis. Be sure
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to catch live editions of The Doug Dot Leap Show
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Michael Lombardi is
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and winning championships and building dynasties in the National Football League.
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And uh, let's let's start last night. We'll work backwards
with you. Um, everybody's pointing to Parki's miss field goal.
But there were other things. There was the lack of
efficiency offensively, the defense didn't get a stop when they
needed to get a stop. And Matt Naggie didn't call
time outs when he could have been given them more
time to get even closer down down the field. What's
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your takeaway from the Eagles lost to the Bears at home?
The Bears lost Eagles at home? Part Mo DELI to
say to me all the time, kid, I'm not second guessing,
I'm first guessing yet. And I'm first guesting Matt Nage
because I think he had no business playing the Eagles.
I really think the Paris should have just rested their
players once they saw that the Rams were running away
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with the game against the forty niners. They had no
chance to get the number two seed, and they let
a tiger into the tournament. And this tiger of the
Philadelphia Eagles. His defense has really been the story. Now.
Everybody talks about Nick Foles, and certainly all Sean Jeffery
has been remarkable as well, But the reality here is
their defense has been very good, and that very good
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defense helps held the Bears to five or sixteen on
third down. And when you have sixteen third downs in
the game, that means you have no control of the game.
You're not moving it, you're not making big plays, You're
always in third down and it showed up and that's
why they only scored fifteen points. That's why they weren't
able to really put the game away. And we look
at the final two minutes of the game and think,
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all while, I think the Bears going through that entire
game really didn't play well enough to win and they
should have been playing the Vikings instead. Uh the the Yeah,
that's fascinting. The Nick Foles story, which is amazing. Um, look,
they changed the playbooks some but if if you're running
that organization, what are your thoughts on how you use
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fuls in the future when Wentz comes back, I mean,
Whence is their quarterback? I mean folds really, I mean
when we break the Foles down yesterday through two interceptions
that they were bad. The one interception was horrendous. You know,
he makes the play I sound completely ironic. Nobody has
written about this. The play that the Eagles win the
game on to a that's called it's basically split right
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option in the old Bill Wolfs terminology was the same
play that the Falcons called the year before he failed
up here that Julio Tones fell down down within the
back of the end zone. Yeah, we fell down first
right and then he jumped up and then then he
dropped the ball. But yeah, same play, same play, And
you know, I mean foals, I didn't think Folds made
some really good pros in the game. But the defense,
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you know, they helped the Bears to to really no
run game at all, and Tropisky up until the last drive,
really wasn't making any place. That he hit Robins city under,
you know the double move with Robinson that he kind
of doesn't throw perfectly and the kid falls down. He
could have walked in the end zone if that's hits
him in stride. A lot of throws that to me,
you know, weren't perfect. And you know, he threw the
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ball forty three times in the game. He tried to
run it. You know, they had three runs and every
time and nobody was open, he took off to roam
with the football. The Bears offense just didn't make any place.
And I thought the Bears blocked the Eagles as well
as as most teams have down the stretch. But at
the end of the day, to me, it was the
Eagles defense and getting back to Nick Foles. I mean,
Whence is their quarterback, it's just Jeffrey has come on
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so much on the outside that's really helped the offense. Um,
I'm looking at the Ravens and one. I thought the
Chargers won the game up front. Their defensive line was outstanding.
Everybody's tide by their defensive backs, but the defensive line
that front four was was outstanding. That said, Lamar was
not playing well. Uh you know, look, CBS doesn't normally
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talk about pulling quarterbacks, and they were talking about pulling quarterback.
What would you have advised when you go in the
half and your offense is playing that poorly. Well. I
think there's two things. I think there's the fans, all
of us who don't work in that locker room and
don't understand how those players do Lamar Jackson, and I
think it's easy for us to say make the substitution,
And certainly I would. I was one of those people
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on Twitter saying I think it's time to go to Flacco.
That being said, I think Hardball did the right thing.
I think his team is more important than just making
a change. And I think instead of listening to the
guy down on the docks in Baltimore Harbor, the Frank
Savaka's I think it's better to listen to his locker room,
and he did, and I think that was really important
because the team would have gone haywire on him, and
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he made that change. There was a reason they were bad.
And Lamar was horrible, don't get me wrong, and I'm
a Labar fan, And he was not very effective in
the game, but their offensive line was really the story
of ineffectiveness in the game. Melvin Ingram was sensational and
they couldn't block him, and I think that was really
the part of the game that became so disruptive for him. Um,
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what about Lamar in the future can I mean, look,
I've talked to people on the league like he's just
that's kind of who he is. He's just he can
be so inaccurate on some throws and and he has
to run in a bunch where you think he's gonna
get hurt. That they're obviously pot committed on Lamar Jackson
the future. But but we've seen these got we've seen
this type of quarterback in the past. One get hurt
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and two the more times you see him, the more
you kind of figure out what they what they can do.
What do you think the long term prognosis is of
Lamar in Baltimore. I think John Harball, if he signs
an extension in Baltimore, he's got to find an offensive
coordinator that can take some of the college game and
bring it into Baltimore. And I think that Marty morning
Wig is so stuck in the West Coast. I think
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there was a horrible job of adjusting in that game
when they were in seven defensive backs and the and
still the Ravens couldn't run the football. I think there's
gotta be more time spent on developing months of passer
and really teller an offense around him that suits. But
I'm not sure that in fairness to Marty morning when
it's the right guy for the job, I think Marty
has always been a West Coast guy. He's trying to
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make Joe Flacco into a West Coast guy. That hasn't worked.
Joe Flacco is a play action pass quarterback and I
think that that has affected him. So for me, I
think it's a developmental stage. He's twenty one years old.
I saw Lamar Jackson play as a freshman, and I
could say he looked a little bit like he did
last night. Not very effective, and by his sophomore year
it was, oh my, this guy's really coming along. I
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think you gotta give it some time before you make
a judgment. Look, I'm telling you, Trabiskis is a Trabisky
may not be as wildly inaccurate, but he is inaccurate
as well. Same thing with the Shawn Watson. You've got
to refine these quarterbacks. They're not finished products. Oh no,
I I agree with you that accuracy is the hardest
thing to fix, isn't it. It is, it really is.
And I think you've got to give some receivers around
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him that that have the great with a great length.
Catch radius is so important, and they have great hands,
and that's something the Ravens don't have. They drop even
when Lamar makes some throws like the slant that gets
for the interception, I mean, you gotta make It's a
bad throw. I though it's high, but it hit the
kid right in the hands and he didn't catch it.
Michael Lombardi joining us Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
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Sports Radio. UM, the Seahawks were obviously very conservad in
their game plan. Were they rightly conservative because of their
inability protecting This is kind of who they are run
the football and turn it over to Russell late or
were they too conservative and that's ultimately what came back
to bite them. But when you look at the stats,
you say, well, Russell played pretty good at two and
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thirty three yards passed, well, he had a hundred eight
going into the last draw, and they had twenty four
carries for seventy three yards in the game. But really,
when you break it down, they had twenty three carries
for forty four yards. Because if you take away the
ra Shard Penny long run, they couldn't do it anything.
They had too many bad plays, Doug. You can't have
that many bad plays and not change what you're doing.
When they ran play action passed they were so effective
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they were able to fold the defense and even when
they repeated the same plays they were successful. I think
the Seahawks were too late to the party and it
cost him. I mean, look, they were two for thirteen
on third down and they allowed the Cowboys to control
the ball over thirty four minutes. And when you do that,
you're not gonna help yourself to win. This whole notion
you have to run the football in the playoffs as
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a joke. Running the football in the playoffs produces field goals,
it doesn't give you points, and you can't get control
of the game. And I think Seattle learned that they
needed to let Russell Wilson play, but I knew all
along they were never gonna do it because that's not
what Pete wanted. They got to where they were from
running the football. You mentioned Deshaun Watson's inaccuracies, Uh, some
of it's obviously also offensive line. How much credit do
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you think Andrew luck should get considering his defensive outstanding
and and his offensive line was really good, and t
Y Hilton's great, and we know that the Texans can't
cover t Y. I think Andrew Lucks played really well.
I think Frank Writs done a wonderful job. I think
the one thing that I was wondering watching the games
by Sunday night, who is the Frank Wright of coaching
that we're overlooking? Because, Doug, if you remember this time
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last year, Frank Wright was on no one's radar. I
wrote a column about it today in The Athletic, basically saying,
who is this year's Frank Right Who's going to get
the opportunity even though he's not electable, and the NFL
has become a profession of elected, not selected, and because
it's elected, you have to carry the Southern primaries. You've
got to win all these you've got to be young
and vibrant and almost beat Camelot like And I think
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we're missing a complete whole section of really good coaches,
like Don Martindell of the Baltimore Ravens, the guy who
did a tremendous job twice against Philip Rivers, and yet
he's not even getting an interview. It's just not right.
You know that their defense is unbelievable yesterday considering the
fuel position and things they were working against. What what's
how does? How does? As a former front office guy,
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and you know, everybody in this league, the King's very
thing is really interesting. I know it's a different job.
There's no recruiting, you're not at you're not at the
disadvantage of Texas Tech. And I get that he's an
offensive savant, but he did just get fired at Texas Tech,
and now he appears to be a legitimate candidate for
a couple of these jobs. What are people in the
NFL saying Kingsbury's candidacy. But what I wrote about really
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was how the Sean mcveigh's ruined the NFL. Everybody's looking
for the next Sean McVeigh. And what I said today
in my column is what happens if there isn't another
Sean McVeigh, Just like there's not another Bill Belichick. You
know that you can't keep trying to find the next guy.
Find your own guy. And look, I like Cliff and
I think Cliff is a really good offensive mine, but
his defense could never get fixed at Texas Tech. And
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there's a reason for that, just like there's a reason
why Lincoln Riley couldn't fix his defenseive Oklahoma. You know,
we talked about Lincoln Riley in Tom Landry like terms,
when in reality, he watched practice every single day at Oklahoma.
He watched that defense. When was he going to get
it fixed? When was he going to get it fixed?
And I think those are the issues you have to
concern yourself with. Look, Doug, there's been sixteen head coaches
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fired in the last twelve months of the National Football League.
That tells you there's a huge problem a and evaluating
the coaches, being helping the coaches, and being select and
seeing selecting the coaches. Michael Lombardi, He used to select coaches.
Now he just helped s us learn about football. His
book is Gridiron Genius, A master class and winning championships
and building dynasties in the NFL. His podcast GM Street Michael,
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thanks so much for joining us. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug dot Leap Show week days
in noon eastern three pm Pacific. We do this thing,
We do this thing where we I mean, I've I've
heard it now several times over. I mean Nick Foles,
it's unbelievable one again in the playoffs and whether it's
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Nick Foles or whether it's I don't know, I mean,
pick the quarterback. In terms of winning and losing in
the playoffs, we go way too crazy at times getting
the trying to be results oriented, right, trying to figure
out the results. You know, there's no Gordon Hayward, no
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Kyrie Irving. So look we don't need them. Trade one
of them better without them, Okay, Like, look, the market
would dictate if eyes were free agents. You know, It's
like Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson, if they were both
on the open market, who would be more valuable. There's
no one in football would take Dak Prescott ahead of
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Russell Wilson. No one the same number of people would
take Nick Foles ahead of Carson Wentz. But social media
and immediate reaction would tell you Nick Foles, they were
winning with him. And I know he got a million
dollar bonus for winning last night, but we're winning with
him Carson Wentz. For Carson Wentz before he got hurt
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last year was eleven and two thirty three touchdowns, seven interceptions.
He basically had the m v P locked up, and
then against Rams's Rams they lost. He got hurt, try
to run the football kind of got twisted and towards
a c l. Nick Foles, after winning a super Bowl
to start this season, was awful in the preseason Week
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one against the Falcons, no touchdowns, one reception, one fumble,
completed fifty of his passes for a hundred and seventeen yards. Oh,
they won the game. Nick Foles one. No, the Eagles
won the game. Week two, they lost to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, who had their own Nick Foles. Right that
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was back when Ryan fits Magic. With under one minute
remaining in the third quarter, they were losing twenty seven
to seven. So sure against the prevent defense, he put
up some numbers to garbage minute garbage time touchdowns and
with forty five seconds left in the game they made
one kicked an onside kicking and get it right, that
does not that's Lamar Jackson from yesterday. He was awful yesterday. Now,
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whether or not you want to say Foles is better
than Lamar Jackson, made better than Lamar Jackson will ever be.
But the idea that you take final stats when it
doesn't tell the story of the game, watch the game.
Even last year in the playoffs, everybody remembers the Super
Bowl where he made some great throws against a very
average Patriots defense, or even against the Vikings who had
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a great defense but no touchdowns. Two fumbles in Division
Round against the Falcons and Julio Jones first fell down
and then couldn't catch a ball thrown up to him
in the end zone. Falcons are on the two yard line.
Arn't throw by Matt Ryan to his best player. Otherwise,
Nick Foles loses at home to the Falcons, who are
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the wild card road winner and known as a dome team,
not a cold weather team. So I'm not sitting here.
I'm not gonna have Dictator Radio determined that a radio
radio show determined that Nick Foles stinks. But if he's
on the open market, you know he's a bottom five
of the starting quarterbacks in the league sort of guy.
He's a great, dude, great. That's why he's the perfect
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guy for this situation. That's why he knew. And I
don't want to go anywhere else. They know me, they
know my mistakes, they oh my flaws. I know I'll
get a chance to play, but I also know I
got Carson, and when push comes to shove, it's his team.
Anyone who tells you that Dak is better than Russell,
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I'm on the open market. Anyone who tells you that
wins isn't as good as Folds put him on the
open market the only way you would ever know. I mean,
even even the Eagles new right, there's a reason they
rushed Carson Wentz back like and Folds won the game.
Yesterday wasn't great. Two Picks did throw a touchdown past
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the end of the game. It was helped out by
the fact that the Bears are quarterback by a guy who,
like another Mr. Robinski, is a great dude. They love
him because he's not Jay Cutler, who no one liked.
But he's not that good thrower as a thrower of
a football. Nick Foles is doing his job. He's holding
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the fort together, doing as well as he can until
Carson Wentz is healthy. And he's also a hot and
cold guy. Goes hot, goes cold, and Eagle fans gave
me the business because I said, like, look, he's basically
Ryan Fitzpatrick without the beard and cool nickname. But he
is three four good games and then people start to
figure him out. In the Bears got start to figure
him out.
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