October 31, 2025 • 33 mins
Doug riffs on Indiana Jones and the decision to keep Tua Tagovailoa in Miami. Doug reacts to Nick Wright's take on Colin Cowherd. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Carmelo Anthony makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Hi already up, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I really like Indiana Jones. And it's interesting when you
go back and you watch those movies, you have to
remember that there wasn't c g I then and so
as much as we lampoon, not Raiders of Lost arc.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But what's what's the second one?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Temple of Doom.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Temple of Doom. My Temple of Doom is kind of
clownish in comparison to the other two. Last Crusade is awesome.
It's got Sir Sean Connery. We named the dog Indiana.
And obviously the first one you have the arc of
the Covenant and the faces melting and again like you
have to look at it through the lens of almost
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fifty years ago. But last Crusade, there's the you know,
the Knights of the Templar or whatever, and you get
the cup that Jesus supposedly drank out of. And the
first guy, he's too ambitious, he thought it was a
cup of gold, and he's like, you have chosen Polly, right,
And then he like.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Disappears in the dust. Sorry if this is a spoiler
for you.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The point is that there are some decisions that you make,
which I don't want to say there's death over, but
there's basically sports death over.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Some of it's not decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I was on you know what do Wisconsin and Penn
State and Oklahoma State and like, you go through these
programs that have fired their coaches that had disastrous seasons,
and they almost all have this one thing in common.
They lost their starting quarterback right before the coach got fired.
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And because now in college athletics, you're really only gonna
pay for one that guy goes down and the backup,
Holy cow. And if you pay for two or three,
that sounds great, but then sometimes the money comes up
short at other key positions. But you know, by and large,
you look at these coaches that have been fired, and
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there's one thing they have in common is that quarterback
play has either been hurt or terrible. And I bring
it up because the news of the day is Chris
Greer gets fired with the Miami Dolphins. We'll get to
a lot of the pilavor we did on the radio
show as well, but to me, it's about this one
thing that got the to a decision raw they got
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it wrong, and you can't point to any one thing.
Some of it is he's been injured. Some of it
is they have great arm strength. Some of it is
he doesn't have great escapability. Some of that's because he
was injured, some of that's because he wasn't a great
but some of it's just he does not He's a
great guy, but he not doesn't have that magnetic, get
behind me personality and leadership that he badly wants to.
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But he doesn't have that persona when you get the
quarterback decision wrong, and they got it wrong, not once,
but twice.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Drafting him is one thing.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Re Upping him in a contract you can't get out
of it for a couple of years when he's just
not that good is a whole other.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And that is why Chris Career was let go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
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Speaker 3 (03:55):
In the bonus podcast who play for a previous portion
of a Fox Sports Radio or a Fox Sports One show.
What does the Fox say? This is Rob Parker talking
about the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I'm here to proclaim to all Los Angeles Dodger fans
and all baseball fans in Baseball America that the Dodgers
are officially deaddea d dead.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They are dead.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I know people are saying, they's no way Mookie and
Freddy and old Don He's gonna go out like this.
They just have to win two games. They can win
two games. They can turny on and naked, you know,
start getting some hits and all that. Have you watched them?
That kid, that rookie boy, twelve strikeouts and hitters one
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through four, one for fifteen with eight strikeouts. Can I
tell you Kelvin that three of those four hitters are
en route to the Hall of Fame. Mookie and Freddy
are en route to the Hall of Fame. This kid
made mince meat with them.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
He did. I can't nobody can defend it, defend it.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But I just if you're buying into this idea that
some magical switch is going to be flipped Friday and
all of a sudden they're gonna get ten runs and
and then they're gonna cruise win the next two games.
I don't think you've watched this series at all.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I actually there's lots of things Rob says which drive
me crazy because they they're contradictory to each other.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right, it's I like to bring this up.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
He still calls Tom Brady the luckiest the lot, the
luckiest of all time. Uh, and yet he thinks that
Bill Belichick's a phony. So how did they How they
win six Super Bowls and get to nine of them? Like,
I don't really know how that works, but baseball. He
loves baseball, He pays attention to baseball. He's I just
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I also think it's a totally flawed, flawed premise to
go it's over, Like, all right, you still have a
super talented Dodger team. They've won a game before in Toronto.
There's no reason they can't win another game and force
the game seven. I just I don't like the overarching
they're dead, they're over, they're done. Yeah, they got shut
down by a young pitcher who's had live, live stuff,
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and they played poorly in the field, and Shohey gave
up a big home run which was kind of backbreaking
and changed the series. But we've seen the Dodgers have
their back against the wall last year against the Padres
and turn around and we've seen them win a game
in Toronto. There's no reason they can't. So I actually
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do enjoy Rob pays more attention to baseball than he should.
So I actually really think a lot of a lot
of the things he says about baseball. But I just
I don't think they're done. I don't think there's that
type of momentum in baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I could be wrong. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
If you're the Dolphins and you're the Dolphins ownership, do
you start to sell off pieces even though you still
have two under contract? You don't know if Tyreek Hill
is going to play again. Are you going to get
rid of your best receiver in Jalen Watta, You're going
to get rid of your edge rushers? Is this a
complete rebuild with a guy who's making fifty four million dollars?
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I don't know what the upside is. If I'm a
coaching candidate and you're going to try to entice me
to go to the Dolphins, You're not enticing me by
getting rid of your best receiver and or some of
your edge rushers, because the Dolphins do have talent. And
that was a game. For at least one half. After that,
it just felt like the Dolphins were sitting around going, eh,
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lamar's pretty good. When's this game over? It just felt like,
let's put a stamp on it and mail it in.
But I can't see taking the ball and saying we're
gonna rebuild because you can't get rid of Tua for
at least another year. And if you're gonna fire Mike
McDaniel and you're gonna bring me in, I'd be like, uh, man,
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I had this looks pretty pretty sparse.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Uh yeah, I would tell you this. If you're bringing
in a new GM, you're going to bring in a
new coach. And if you're bringing a new GM, you're
going to bring in a new quarterback, a new coach.
A new GM equals new quarterback. The teardown has begun.
It doesn't work any other way.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Here's Nick right talking about our own Colin Cowherd getting
inducted into the Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I got my first agent by cold calling agents and
saying Hey, you don't represent Colin Cowherd. Do you want
to represent the next one? And one of them took
me up. And then when I got to Fox, whether
people know this or not, I got hired for a
show that by the time I got there, they were
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no longer making and I kind of was a man
without a country, living in LA with my family in Houston.
And it is because Colin said, hey, why don't you
let Nick fill in for me? Why don't you give
him something, give him a real shot, that my entire
life and world changed. And so people say all the time, like,
don't meet your idols or heroes or whatever. I met
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mine and work with him, and it's the greatest thing
that's ever happened to me and for Colin, who I
believe to be the single greatest sports radio talent in
the history of the medium, to finally getting his just
due and making the Hall of Fame, which again I
don't know how he didn't make fifteen years ago, is awesome.
So to my dear friend Colin, congrats.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But I'll echo those sentiments. Colin's been there for me
through a lot of through any ups and any downs.
We talk just about every week, usually when football game
games are going on, he's calling me, and I always
feel like he's trying out his rants. But he is
a magnificent radio talent. And yeah, I mean there isn't
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anybody who has command of a show and has a
feel and plan for how to how to build a
sports radio show better than Colin Colhart. Congrats, that's what
the Fox said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Say.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
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Speaker 3 (10:36):
Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's your annoying, Hey, Doug. The Halloween at the office,
I think Packers Matt Lafleur put it best today and
I think he speaks for all sane, grown men in
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the workplace today when he said this.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't give a shit if it's Halloween, all right,
We're trying to win a game.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So this is coming off of the week when I
proclaim that grab asses at work are annoying. You know,
people that think that they have they're entitled to enjoy work,
so they distract others by grab assing at work. And
if if you. If you, you know, speak out against it,
then you're the asshole. Even though we're all here to
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get paid to work, and Halloween kind of fits into that.
It's a special category. It's like the costumes at work
if you're not you know, if you're not a child
or a woman. No grown man should wear a costume
to work unless and there there are caveats if you're
part of like a digital presentation or you work on TV,
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if it's a part of your thing to be in
a visual capacity. Today, I understand wearing costumes to work,
but that's the only caveat I'm gonna give. No grown
man should go to work in a costume that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you, and then i'm
gonna top Now. Look, there's there's a couple of parts
to it. I love that we're having the Halloween discussion
both on radio and here in the pod. Well, there's
a there's a bunch of parts to Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I was on Wisconsin Sports Radio Sports Morning Show earlier today,
Ja stew and the two gentlemen, my boy Trevor who
hosted like he's dressed up both the guys the coast there,
they're dressed up and they're like, why aren't you dressed up?
And it was seven in the morning, and I was like, well,
because I'm an adult, you know, it's like what so uh,
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I don't mind if you come dressed up, as long
as like, why would you make it a thing if
somebody isn't a dressed up? And I think the only
true appropriate adult dress ups is one if you do
family theme or two if you're going to a party
family theme or you're going to a party outside of that,
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it probably doesn't work for.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
You, right.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I Also, this would also be a you're annoying. I'm
annoyed by people on TV who act like they have
the greatest costume ever when you have a professional makeup
artist that does all this, Like, hey, congrats, but you
had a professional makeup artist make you look like whatever.
Character like, that's not I don't like ordering outfits and
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costumes and whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I like creating them. This is a big thing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
We talked about it on radio, but it is annoying
office costume Guy and and bragger about costume that, frankly
is the creation of a makeup artist, not of you.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
In a professional setting.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So my question is this, did those radio hosts today
meet my caveat? In other words, how did they know
you weren't in a costume? And how did you know
they were? They said they were, Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So he got Indian.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
He's like, well you got Indiana Jones and I forget
whichever was dressed up. How come you're not dressed up?
And I was like, because I'm an adult?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Okay, So they're not a part of a digital presentation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There's no yeah, streaming, No, it was streaming. It was
streaming on video.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Sorry, Oh that's that's the caveat. That's acceptable. Okay, Uh,
they're clear so YouTube TV. I woke up this morning
to watch my you know, my ESPN programming to see
how they're stacking their shows.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Glad he brought this up.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thank you, go ahead, Sagan, I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Glad you brought this up. I had the same same experience,
the same experience today.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And the annoying part about this is and a lot
of people are going to get annoyed tomorrow when they
can't watch their college football, and I have a feeling
it'll be settled before Monday night. A ball that's probably
the ultimate leverage, but I'm not gonna get my Jeopardy.
And there's one thing that my significant other and I
do every single day. It's watch Jeopardy. So that's the
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real shitty thing about this specific conflict because I have
a feeling it's going to be over before the game
on Monday night. But what about my Jeopardy tonight?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're just concerned about Jeopardy? Is there Jeopardy on? Is
it digital?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Is there a streaming service you can get it on?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Otherwise I've looked, no luck, no luck.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Not watch Jeopardy tonight? I hate that shit?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, no, I get that. But like, let's say it
lasts a week. Okay, let's say it last a week.
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Do you bail? And do you go to another service?
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah? I have ESPN Plus personally, and I've got Hulu,
so like the I'll be able to catch things after
they air, like Jeopardy will be available probably Saturday or
Sunday night. I'm talking about me selfishly tonight not being
able to get Jeopardy. I don't think this goes a week.
I don't think either or dumb enough to not air
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an NFL game on their platform. That's that's like, that's
kind of I think that's like live viewing suicide in this.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, what is one of those things to where like
who's gonna blink first? Right, Who's who's gonna blink first?
Is it gonna be YouTube TV or Disney? I don't
know the answer to it. I do think the thing
with Disney is, you know, you can all of their shows,
all their movies you can get elsewhere. ESPN you can
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get elsewhere. So I kind of think they have they
Disney has the leverage in this thing.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I got off for twenty dollars a month rebate. Did
you get that for your YouTube TV while they don't
have it on?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Oh? Good? Well that's nice. But but like I just said,
like the ultimate leverage that I think YouTube TV has
is that live programming that live sports, Like, isn't live
sports the only thing people watch commercials for nowadays? Then
they say that that's.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But that Disney has the leverage because they have the
live sports, right.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh sure, but isn't Disney given away what is it?
Ten million people or how many ever people have YouTube TV?
Aren't they giving away those those numbers to the ad buyers.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean again, it's a it's a if your YouTube TV,
you run the risk of people canceling YouTube TV because
they can't get ESPN. And if you're if you're ESPN,
you run the risk of losing all that money, all
their sub.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Because you wanted a certain price point.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, there's there's no real answer to it, but
I do think that because they have the live sports
that people want, they have more they have, they're in
a better position of power then you Tube TV will
be because they have the sports. They have the college
basketball games, they have the college football games, they have
the NBA games, they have the NFL games, they have
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all those games.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So this this has a couple of things. It's it's
a little too nuanced probably for most listeners. And I'm
going to apologize ahead of time for this. So I'm
going to play something from Jeff Landry, who is the
governor of Louisiana, Republican Governor Louisiana. I'm going to play
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something that he, uh he said last weekend as he
stood in front of a statue of a tiger on
LSU's campus.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Hey, every governor Jeff Landery tonight wanting to thank the
entire Turning Point family because tonight unbelievable, Over fifteen hundred
people came to listen to Turning Point USA. Thank you,
big shout out to LSU Turning Point. And so we're
here on campus next to Mike the Tiger, and we're
gonna put a challenge out to LSU Board of Supervisors
to find a place to put a statue at Charlie
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Kirk to defend the freedom of speech on college campuses.
Come on, ladies and gentlemen, let's see if we can
be the first campus to do it.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Now. I know that the ad was fired earlier today,
maybe last night, but Ryan Clark before all that happened,
went on a rant about the AD at LSU, and
then he said this.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
First off, it's the second most ridiculous thing he said
this week. The first was standing on campus is saying
he wanted to put a statue up with somebody that
doesn't represent the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players
and the students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that
worked there. That was the first dumb thing he said
this week. This is the second dumbest right amongst a
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lot of dumb things.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So I think that this case, I think this particular
time and place is going to be like studied in
colleges years from now, and I think when history books
are written, it's going to be like that was the
like the leading example of how the algorithm impacted people,
because in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, the algorithms
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made you a part of one of two teams. The
team that thinks he's the most vicious racist homophobe in
the world and should never be celebrated and maybe his
death was warranted. And then there was the group of
people saying that he's the ultimate saint who was the
bastion of free speech and should be should be celebrated,
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given medals as Trump did, and put statues on college
campuses because that's what his business was going to and
trying to convince college students. The truth, as always, is
somewhere in the middle. But I think it's going to
be the case study for how the algorithm really fucked
with us. I think your great grandkids are going to
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be like, so, wait, there weren't any guardrails with social media.
They could just like do this trick where they they
kind of like, uh, tricked people that aren't too bright
into thinking certain things based on clips that they provided
in their social media and the answry was yet before
the regulations. Anyways, the annoying part about it is this,
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Ryan Clark got a bunch of shit from all the
right leaning pundits and sites this week for saying that,
and I thought that was shitty. I just thought it
was shitty that he got shipped for that. I think
it was like a reasonable opinion. It's just that in
this day and age, you either have to hate it
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or you have to love it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I just again, I think it's one of those
things where we have to ask ourselves the question, an
honest question.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You and I maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You do because my next annoying person is going to
be doing something similar to Ryan Clark, and it's somebody
who's always on this. But it's one of those It
doesn't bother me with the exception of the fact that
you're playing the same card every time people do that
in sports arguments. I just if ESPN is going to
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be a political, then they have to be a political.
If they're not going to be a political, then okay,
they're not a political I don't think you can have
it both ways. And clearly Ryan Clark it does not
want to be a political He thinks he has leverage
and the ability to say whatever he wants, and if
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he says something that doesn't jibe with what the company wants,
he can just apologize later, right doesn't He apologize three
times already this football season. So yeah, I again, I
I'm good with Ryan Clark's stuff. I think it's pretty moronic,
but I also think that a portion of it is
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exactly what you're saying, which is they want to say
things so outlandish to generate a reaction. So I almost
feel like we're doing them a favor when we react
to it. Similarly, let me play you something Chase do
that I think is incredibly annoying. So Chris Greer obviously
was our lead story of the day, Let go as
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GM of the Miami Dolphins. He'd been with the organization
for twenty five years. By the way, it's been twenty
five years since they won a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Here was Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Smith earlier today on First Take after the news came down.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
This bs, that's the first fire. Really, that's what we're
doing with what we've seen, what we just finished talking about.
You know, there are things that we need to be modified,
et cetera, et cetera. But the personnel that they have
on their squad, although we're not we're not happy with it.
We didn't walk into this season thinking they were going
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to be trash. We looked at their roster and we
said they got some potential.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
It was about tour, it was about Mike mcdoniel and
the brother get fired first. All I know is this,
I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. I better hear
Mike McDaniel's name today. But it better not be just
Chris Grere. And I'm not saying that he don't deserve
it because of the way they look at the end.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
You knew you at the helm.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
I understand it looks. I'm all for brothers as head coaches.
Jim's we know what battles I've been fighting over thirty years.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay, I got it all right.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
But we go because when you don't get the job done,
you don't get.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
The damn job done.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Period.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we
gonna need Mike McDaniel's in place, and we just gonna
fire him and we gonna move forward.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Damn that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm waiting for more news. I'm waiting for more news again.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I can't.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
I can't defend Chris Grier with some of the decisions
that have been made personal wise.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
I understand it's unfortunate, but I got it. But I'll
be damned if it gets to stop there. Oh hell no.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
What's really sad is that there's no one on that set.
Cam Newton played in the league. Cam Newton knows, or
if he has any football knowledge, knows this to be true.
There's not anybody who can politely say what I'm going
to say in a less polite manner. You sound like
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a fucking idiot. And it really really does damage to
the sports world because the most people who know football
know this to be one hund inaccurate. There are plenty
of people that watch Stephen A. Smith that are nodding
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their head, going, yeah, they fired the.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Black guy first. That's fucked up. The NFL is racist. Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I will not even factor in that Mike McDaniel is
I believe half black, forget about that, or that Tua
is Samoan. So apparently the Dolphins organization in Steven Ross
is only anti full black, not Samoan, and not mixed race.
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Right again, stephen A is the highest paid employee at ESPN,
and he clearly doesn't know that Mike McDaniel identifies himself
as mixed race, nor is he willing to admit that
being Simoan is not white, Like, I don't know anybody
who's like, oh, I'm racist against black people, but not Simoan's.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's fucking stupid. Also, it's your job as a Denia.
Doesn't he purport himself as a journalist? Oh? Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
If he was actually a journalist, he would remember that
Chris Greer and the front office fired their last head coach,
Brian Flores, who was black, and they fired him because
it was Chris Greer and his staff who decided to
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select to a tongue of Ioloa over Justin Herbert, a
decision which has set the Miami Dolphins back for the
next twenty years because they went all in to get
a quarterback, ended up with I think the fourth pick,
and they picked the wrong quarterback. Additionally, Okay, so there's
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the idea of Okay, the dolph are suddenly racist now
when they had a fucking GM and a fucking coach
who's black.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Their whole front office just so heat. But again, this
is the problem with Stephen A. It's that he doesn't
even ask a pa, hey man, they got a lot
of black people in the front office there, or does
this make any sense?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Instead, he's so arrogant, and the arrogance is supported by
ESPN paying in an ungodly sum of money that he
actually thinks he's making a point.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And the problem with it is.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There's always going to be a portion of society which
listens to the loudest talking people that don't know what
the fuck they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And Steven A. Smith is just such a human being.
This is this is it. It's more than annoying. But
I'll put it in annoying.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, he's not just wrong, like exactly what is what
is Stephen Ross supposed to do? Because the last head
coach was fired because the front office is like, hey,
this guy doesn't like our quarterback, he doesn't like what
we're doing. It's us or him, and they fired the coach.
Now you're like, Okay, our culture is bad because we
brought in some guys like Tyreek Hill, who made the
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Tyreek Hill trade the GM okay, and yet like he's
like rooting for Mike mcdamild to get fired.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
By the way, it's also black, you dummy, fucking look
it up. But you're so caught up in trying to
make a point and score points with that percentage of
people that thinks everything is racist.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And so now they walk around again.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I don't watch first take. I just see clips. I
saw this clip and I was like, are you kidding me?
Not because I give a shit what stephen A says.
He says things that are wrong all the time, but
because the power behind stephen A stating something which is
categorically false. Okay, And when I'm saying kagor foss, he's
not wrong that they fired Chris Greer first, and that
(29:55):
Chris Greer is African American, he's not wrong, but he
is wrong because he's insinua.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You know he's this anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
He's saying, basically, it's racist the black guy goes first,
and if he wanted to go, the black guy goes first, Well,
they fired Brian Flores, who's a black head coach, and
they hired a mixed race head coach, and they have
a simone quarterback. So what the fuck are we doing here?
None of these people are white. And if you want to
say Mike McDaniel's white, does fine, you can say he's white.
He identifies as mixed race. I don't questions. I don't
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give a shit. I know that Chris Greer was fired
because the team he's put together is a fucking mess.
The defense sucks, and they have bad culture, and they
picked the wrong quarterback. Outside of that, Chris Greer should
be gainfully employed. But instead you have the highest paid
employee of the most powerful sports broadcasting company who purports
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himself to be a journalist that either doesn't know or
doesn't care the races of other people, and labels an
NFL team racist because they fired the GM who happens
to be black first, not even talking about the fact
that the entire fun office is black. He doesn't know
that because he doesn't actually do the work. I think,
you know, who's.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
I do.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Because we can. So this is how this works, right,
Michael Jordan is going to say something every Tuesday night,
and then all the all the former athletes with podcasts
are going to respond to what Jordan said. This is
Carmelo Anthony on Michael Jordan saying, I would never do
(31:38):
World management.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
You heard what mj said. My ankle hurt. Fuck that,
I gotta go. I'm tying my shit up. I still
gotta play. I gotta prove myself. That thought process of
having to prove yourself when you hurt. Today it's out
the window. I used to go through that shit my
own self.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Man.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
Fuck that, nobody is telling me I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm not playing.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
I had two torn shoulders me never had surgery until
after this, a cleaning and all that stuff. But playing
through this because I'm built off of a different I'm
built from a different cloth. I want to play. I
want to go out there. I'm not nobody telling me
I can't play should the torn needs I'm going to play.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Carmello Anthony talking about He's gonna play regardless that that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now, this is the power of television. It really is.
And Michael Jordan is doing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Uh and the NBC is doing to the NBA daily
viewing experience or weekly viewing experience. What the Last Dance did,
which is it's amazing the power of Jordan right that
he can say something that you can't really challenge and
it makes him out to be the great, even greater
(32:56):
than he ever was, and everybody in sports is going
to talk about it. But like we're really acting like
came Caramel Anthey, now is gonna make himself into Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Is that what we're doing? Okay, that's what the fuck? Uh?
Why can we play for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end of the Modus podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Check out the radio show every day three to five's
from Twelt Too, Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app I'm
Doug Gotlie
All right, this is the Doug gottl Show here in
the bonus with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What a Dog Gotlim Show. Yeah, the bonus Fox Sports Radio.
Hi already up, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I really like Indiana Jones. And it's interesting when you
go back and you watch those movies, you have to
remember that there wasn't c g I then and so
as much as we lampoon, not Raiders of Lost arc.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But what's what's the second one?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Temple of Doom.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Temple of Doom. My Temple of Doom is kind of
clownish in comparison to the other two. Last Crusade is awesome.
It's got Sir Sean Connery. We named the dog Indiana.
And obviously the first one you have the arc of
the Covenant and the faces melting and again like you
have to look at it through the lens of almost
(01:11):
fifty years ago. But last Crusade, there's the you know,
the Knights of the Templar or whatever, and you get
the cup that Jesus supposedly drank out of. And the
first guy, he's too ambitious, he thought it was a
cup of gold, and he's like, you have chosen Polly, right,
And then he like.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Disappears in the dust. Sorry if this is a spoiler
for you.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The point is that there are some decisions that you make,
which I don't want to say there's death over, but
there's basically sports death over.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Some of it's not decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I was on you know what do Wisconsin and Penn
State and Oklahoma State and like, you go through these
programs that have fired their coaches that had disastrous seasons,
and they almost all have this one thing in common.
They lost their starting quarterback right before the coach got fired.
(02:09):
And because now in college athletics, you're really only gonna
pay for one that guy goes down and the backup,
Holy cow. And if you pay for two or three,
that sounds great, but then sometimes the money comes up
short at other key positions. But you know, by and large,
you look at these coaches that have been fired, and
(02:30):
there's one thing they have in common is that quarterback
play has either been hurt or terrible. And I bring
it up because the news of the day is Chris
Greer gets fired with the Miami Dolphins. We'll get to
a lot of the pilavor we did on the radio
show as well, but to me, it's about this one
thing that got the to a decision raw they got
(02:55):
it wrong, and you can't point to any one thing.
Some of it is he's been injured. Some of it
is they have great arm strength. Some of it is
he doesn't have great escapability. Some of that's because he
was injured, some of that's because he wasn't a great
but some of it's just he does not He's a
great guy, but he not doesn't have that magnetic, get
behind me personality and leadership that he badly wants to.
(03:15):
But he doesn't have that persona when you get the
quarterback decision wrong, and they got it wrong, not once,
but twice.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Drafting him is one thing.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Re Upping him in a contract you can't get out
of it for a couple of years when he's just
not that good is a whole other.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And that is why Chris Career was let go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
App Let's Get to the Foxes and now say every
day at this time of The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
In the bonus podcast who play for a previous portion
of a Fox Sports Radio or a Fox Sports One show.
What does the Fox say? This is Rob Parker talking
about the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I'm here to proclaim to all Los Angeles Dodger fans
and all baseball fans in Baseball America that the Dodgers
are officially deaddea d dead.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They are dead.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I know people are saying, they's no way Mookie and
Freddy and old Don He's gonna go out like this.
They just have to win two games. They can win
two games. They can turny on and naked, you know,
start getting some hits and all that. Have you watched them?
That kid, that rookie boy, twelve strikeouts and hitters one
(04:47):
through four, one for fifteen with eight strikeouts. Can I
tell you Kelvin that three of those four hitters are
en route to the Hall of Fame. Mookie and Freddy
are en route to the Hall of Fame. This kid
made mince meat with them.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
He did. I can't nobody can defend it, defend it.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But I just if you're buying into this idea that
some magical switch is going to be flipped Friday and
all of a sudden they're gonna get ten runs and
and then they're gonna cruise win the next two games.
I don't think you've watched this series at all.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I actually there's lots of things Rob says which drive
me crazy because they they're contradictory to each other.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right, it's I like to bring this up.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
He still calls Tom Brady the luckiest the lot, the
luckiest of all time. Uh, and yet he thinks that
Bill Belichick's a phony. So how did they How they
win six Super Bowls and get to nine of them? Like,
I don't really know how that works, but baseball. He
loves baseball, He pays attention to baseball. He's I just
(06:02):
I also think it's a totally flawed, flawed premise to
go it's over, Like, all right, you still have a
super talented Dodger team. They've won a game before in Toronto.
There's no reason they can't win another game and force
the game seven. I just I don't like the overarching
they're dead, they're over, they're done. Yeah, they got shut
down by a young pitcher who's had live, live stuff,
(06:25):
and they played poorly in the field, and Shohey gave
up a big home run which was kind of backbreaking
and changed the series. But we've seen the Dodgers have
their back against the wall last year against the Padres
and turn around and we've seen them win a game
in Toronto. There's no reason they can't. So I actually
(06:46):
do enjoy Rob pays more attention to baseball than he should.
So I actually really think a lot of a lot
of the things he says about baseball. But I just
I don't think they're done. I don't think there's that
type of momentum in baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I could be wrong. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
If you're the Dolphins and you're the Dolphins ownership, do
you start to sell off pieces even though you still
have two under contract? You don't know if Tyreek Hill
is going to play again. Are you going to get
rid of your best receiver in Jalen Watta, You're going
to get rid of your edge rushers? Is this a
complete rebuild with a guy who's making fifty four million dollars?
(07:27):
I don't know what the upside is. If I'm a
coaching candidate and you're going to try to entice me
to go to the Dolphins, You're not enticing me by
getting rid of your best receiver and or some of
your edge rushers, because the Dolphins do have talent. And
that was a game. For at least one half. After that,
it just felt like the Dolphins were sitting around going, eh,
(07:49):
lamar's pretty good. When's this game over? It just felt like,
let's put a stamp on it and mail it in.
But I can't see taking the ball and saying we're
gonna rebuild because you can't get rid of Tua for
at least another year. And if you're gonna fire Mike
McDaniel and you're gonna bring me in, I'd be like, uh, man,
(08:13):
I had this looks pretty pretty sparse.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Uh yeah, I would tell you this. If you're bringing
in a new GM, you're going to bring in a
new coach. And if you're bringing a new GM, you're
going to bring in a new quarterback, a new coach.
A new GM equals new quarterback. The teardown has begun.
It doesn't work any other way.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Here's Nick right talking about our own Colin Cowherd getting
inducted into the Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I got my first agent by cold calling agents and
saying Hey, you don't represent Colin Cowherd. Do you want
to represent the next one? And one of them took
me up. And then when I got to Fox, whether
people know this or not, I got hired for a
show that by the time I got there, they were
(09:05):
no longer making and I kind of was a man
without a country, living in LA with my family in Houston.
And it is because Colin said, hey, why don't you
let Nick fill in for me? Why don't you give
him something, give him a real shot, that my entire
life and world changed. And so people say all the time, like,
don't meet your idols or heroes or whatever. I met
(09:27):
mine and work with him, and it's the greatest thing
that's ever happened to me and for Colin, who I
believe to be the single greatest sports radio talent in
the history of the medium, to finally getting his just
due and making the Hall of Fame, which again I
don't know how he didn't make fifteen years ago, is awesome.
So to my dear friend Colin, congrats.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But I'll echo those sentiments. Colin's been there for me
through a lot of through any ups and any downs.
We talk just about every week, usually when football game
games are going on, he's calling me, and I always
feel like he's trying out his rants. But he is
a magnificent radio talent. And yeah, I mean there isn't
(10:12):
anybody who has command of a show and has a
feel and plan for how to how to build a
sports radio show better than Colin Colhart. Congrats, that's what
the Fox said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Say.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's your annoying, Hey, Doug. The Halloween at the office,
I think Packers Matt Lafleur put it best today and
I think he speaks for all sane, grown men in
(11:01):
the workplace today when he said this.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't give a shit if it's Halloween, all right,
We're trying to win a game.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So this is coming off of the week when I
proclaim that grab asses at work are annoying. You know,
people that think that they have they're entitled to enjoy work,
so they distract others by grab assing at work. And
if if you. If you, you know, speak out against it,
then you're the asshole. Even though we're all here to
(11:32):
get paid to work, and Halloween kind of fits into that.
It's a special category. It's like the costumes at work
if you're not you know, if you're not a child
or a woman. No grown man should wear a costume
to work unless and there there are caveats if you're
part of like a digital presentation or you work on TV,
(11:55):
if it's a part of your thing to be in
a visual capacity. Today, I understand wearing costumes to work,
but that's the only caveat I'm gonna give. No grown
man should go to work in a costume that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you, and then i'm
gonna top Now. Look, there's there's a couple of parts
to it. I love that we're having the Halloween discussion
both on radio and here in the pod. Well, there's
a there's a bunch of parts to Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I was on Wisconsin Sports Radio Sports Morning Show earlier today,
Ja stew and the two gentlemen, my boy Trevor who
hosted like he's dressed up both the guys the coast there,
they're dressed up and they're like, why aren't you dressed up?
And it was seven in the morning, and I was like, well,
because I'm an adult, you know, it's like what so uh,
(12:50):
I don't mind if you come dressed up, as long
as like, why would you make it a thing if
somebody isn't a dressed up? And I think the only
true appropriate adult dress ups is one if you do
family theme or two if you're going to a party
family theme or you're going to a party outside of that,
(13:13):
it probably doesn't work for.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
You, right.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I Also, this would also be a you're annoying. I'm
annoyed by people on TV who act like they have
the greatest costume ever when you have a professional makeup
artist that does all this, Like, hey, congrats, but you
had a professional makeup artist make you look like whatever.
Character like, that's not I don't like ordering outfits and
(13:41):
costumes and whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I like creating them. This is a big thing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
We talked about it on radio, but it is annoying
office costume Guy and and bragger about costume that, frankly
is the creation of a makeup artist, not of you.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
In a professional setting.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So my question is this, did those radio hosts today
meet my caveat? In other words, how did they know
you weren't in a costume? And how did you know
they were? They said they were, Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So he got Indian.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
He's like, well you got Indiana Jones and I forget
whichever was dressed up. How come you're not dressed up?
And I was like, because I'm an adult?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Okay, So they're not a part of a digital presentation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There's no yeah, streaming, No, it was streaming. It was
streaming on video.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Sorry, Oh that's that's the caveat. That's acceptable. Okay, Uh,
they're clear so YouTube TV. I woke up this morning
to watch my you know, my ESPN programming to see
how they're stacking their shows.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Glad he brought this up.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thank you, go ahead, Sagan, I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Glad you brought this up. I had the same same experience,
the same experience today.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And the annoying part about this is and a lot
of people are going to get annoyed tomorrow when they
can't watch their college football, and I have a feeling
it'll be settled before Monday night. A ball that's probably
the ultimate leverage, but I'm not gonna get my Jeopardy.
And there's one thing that my significant other and I
do every single day. It's watch Jeopardy. So that's the
(15:12):
real shitty thing about this specific conflict because I have
a feeling it's going to be over before the game
on Monday night. But what about my Jeopardy tonight?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're just concerned about Jeopardy? Is there Jeopardy on? Is
it digital?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Is there a streaming service you can get it on?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Otherwise I've looked, no luck, no luck.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Not watch Jeopardy tonight? I hate that shit?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, no, I get that. But like, let's say it
lasts a week. Okay, let's say it last a week.
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Do you bail? And do you go to another service?
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah? I have ESPN Plus personally, and I've got Hulu,
so like the I'll be able to catch things after
they air, like Jeopardy will be available probably Saturday or
Sunday night. I'm talking about me selfishly tonight not being
able to get Jeopardy. I don't think this goes a week.
I don't think either or dumb enough to not air
(16:19):
an NFL game on their platform. That's that's like, that's
kind of I think that's like live viewing suicide in this.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, what is one of those things to where like
who's gonna blink first? Right, Who's who's gonna blink first?
Is it gonna be YouTube TV or Disney? I don't
know the answer to it. I do think the thing
with Disney is, you know, you can all of their shows,
all their movies you can get elsewhere. ESPN you can
(16:52):
get elsewhere. So I kind of think they have they
Disney has the leverage in this thing.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I got off for twenty dollars a month rebate. Did
you get that for your YouTube TV while they don't
have it on?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Oh? Good? Well that's nice. But but like I just said,
like the ultimate leverage that I think YouTube TV has
is that live programming that live sports, Like, isn't live
sports the only thing people watch commercials for nowadays? Then
they say that that's.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But that Disney has the leverage because they have the
live sports, right.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh sure, but isn't Disney given away what is it?
Ten million people or how many ever people have YouTube TV?
Aren't they giving away those those numbers to the ad buyers.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean again, it's a it's a if your YouTube TV,
you run the risk of people canceling YouTube TV because
they can't get ESPN. And if you're if you're ESPN,
you run the risk of losing all that money, all
their sub.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Because you wanted a certain price point.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, there's there's no real answer to it, but
I do think that because they have the live sports
that people want, they have more they have, they're in
a better position of power then you Tube TV will
be because they have the sports. They have the college
basketball games, they have the college football games, they have
the NBA games, they have the NFL games, they have
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all those games.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So this this has a couple of things. It's it's
a little too nuanced probably for most listeners. And I'm
going to apologize ahead of time for this. So I'm
going to play something from Jeff Landry, who is the
governor of Louisiana, Republican Governor Louisiana. I'm going to play
(18:50):
something that he, uh he said last weekend as he
stood in front of a statue of a tiger on
LSU's campus.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Hey, every governor Jeff Landery tonight wanting to thank the
entire Turning Point family because tonight unbelievable, Over fifteen hundred
people came to listen to Turning Point USA. Thank you,
big shout out to LSU Turning Point. And so we're
here on campus next to Mike the Tiger, and we're
gonna put a challenge out to LSU Board of Supervisors
to find a place to put a statue at Charlie
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Kirk to defend the freedom of speech on college campuses.
Come on, ladies and gentlemen, let's see if we can
be the first campus to do it.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Now. I know that the ad was fired earlier today,
maybe last night, but Ryan Clark before all that happened,
went on a rant about the AD at LSU, and
then he said this.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
First off, it's the second most ridiculous thing he said
this week. The first was standing on campus is saying
he wanted to put a statue up with somebody that
doesn't represent the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players
and the students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that
worked there. That was the first dumb thing he said
this week. This is the second dumbest right amongst a
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lot of dumb things.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So I think that this case, I think this particular
time and place is going to be like studied in
colleges years from now, and I think when history books
are written, it's going to be like that was the
like the leading example of how the algorithm impacted people,
because in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, the algorithms
(20:27):
made you a part of one of two teams. The
team that thinks he's the most vicious racist homophobe in
the world and should never be celebrated and maybe his
death was warranted. And then there was the group of
people saying that he's the ultimate saint who was the
bastion of free speech and should be should be celebrated,
(20:51):
given medals as Trump did, and put statues on college
campuses because that's what his business was going to and
trying to convince college students. The truth, as always, is
somewhere in the middle. But I think it's going to
be the case study for how the algorithm really fucked
with us. I think your great grandkids are going to
(21:12):
be like, so, wait, there weren't any guardrails with social media.
They could just like do this trick where they they
kind of like, uh, tricked people that aren't too bright
into thinking certain things based on clips that they provided
in their social media and the answry was yet before
the regulations. Anyways, the annoying part about it is this,
(21:36):
Ryan Clark got a bunch of shit from all the
right leaning pundits and sites this week for saying that,
and I thought that was shitty. I just thought it
was shitty that he got shipped for that. I think
it was like a reasonable opinion. It's just that in
this day and age, you either have to hate it
(21:57):
or you have to love it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I just again, I think it's one of those
things where we have to ask ourselves the question, an
honest question.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You and I maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You do because my next annoying person is going to
be doing something similar to Ryan Clark, and it's somebody
who's always on this. But it's one of those It
doesn't bother me with the exception of the fact that
you're playing the same card every time people do that
in sports arguments. I just if ESPN is going to
(22:37):
be a political, then they have to be a political.
If they're not going to be a political, then okay,
they're not a political I don't think you can have
it both ways. And clearly Ryan Clark it does not
want to be a political He thinks he has leverage
and the ability to say whatever he wants, and if
(23:00):
he says something that doesn't jibe with what the company wants,
he can just apologize later, right doesn't He apologize three
times already this football season. So yeah, I again, I
I'm good with Ryan Clark's stuff. I think it's pretty moronic,
but I also think that a portion of it is
(23:21):
exactly what you're saying, which is they want to say
things so outlandish to generate a reaction. So I almost
feel like we're doing them a favor when we react
to it. Similarly, let me play you something Chase do
that I think is incredibly annoying. So Chris Greer obviously
was our lead story of the day, Let go as
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GM of the Miami Dolphins. He'd been with the organization
for twenty five years. By the way, it's been twenty
five years since they won a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Here was Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Smith earlier today on First Take after the news came down.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
This bs, that's the first fire. Really, that's what we're
doing with what we've seen, what we just finished talking about.
You know, there are things that we need to be modified,
et cetera, et cetera. But the personnel that they have
on their squad, although we're not we're not happy with it.
We didn't walk into this season thinking they were going
(24:19):
to be trash. We looked at their roster and we
said they got some potential.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
It was about tour, it was about Mike mcdoniel and
the brother get fired first. All I know is this,
I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. I better hear
Mike McDaniel's name today. But it better not be just
Chris Grere. And I'm not saying that he don't deserve
it because of the way they look at the end.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
You knew you at the helm.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
I understand it looks. I'm all for brothers as head coaches.
Jim's we know what battles I've been fighting over thirty years.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay, I got it all right.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
But we go because when you don't get the job done,
you don't get.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
The damn job done.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Period.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we
gonna need Mike McDaniel's in place, and we just gonna
fire him and we gonna move forward.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Damn that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm waiting for more news. I'm waiting for more news again.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I can't.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
I can't defend Chris Grier with some of the decisions
that have been made personal wise.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I got it.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
I understand it's unfortunate, but I got it. But I'll
be damned if it gets to stop there. Oh hell no.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
What's really sad is that there's no one on that set.
Cam Newton played in the league. Cam Newton knows, or
if he has any football knowledge, knows this to be true.
There's not anybody who can politely say what I'm going
to say in a less polite manner. You sound like
(25:50):
a fucking idiot. And it really really does damage to
the sports world because the most people who know football
know this to be one hund inaccurate. There are plenty
of people that watch Stephen A. Smith that are nodding
(26:12):
their head, going, yeah, they fired the.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Black guy first. That's fucked up. The NFL is racist. Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I will not even factor in that Mike McDaniel is
I believe half black, forget about that, or that Tua
is Samoan. So apparently the Dolphins organization in Steven Ross
is only anti full black, not Samoan, and not mixed race.
(26:45):
Right again, stephen A is the highest paid employee at ESPN,
and he clearly doesn't know that Mike McDaniel identifies himself
as mixed race, nor is he willing to admit that
being Simoan is not white, Like, I don't know anybody
who's like, oh, I'm racist against black people, but not Simoan's.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's fucking stupid. Also, it's your job as a Denia.
Doesn't he purport himself as a journalist? Oh? Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
If he was actually a journalist, he would remember that
Chris Greer and the front office fired their last head coach,
Brian Flores, who was black, and they fired him because
it was Chris Greer and his staff who decided to
(27:37):
select to a tongue of Ioloa over Justin Herbert, a
decision which has set the Miami Dolphins back for the
next twenty years because they went all in to get
a quarterback, ended up with I think the fourth pick,
and they picked the wrong quarterback. Additionally, Okay, so there's
(27:58):
the idea of Okay, the dolph are suddenly racist now
when they had a fucking GM and a fucking coach
who's black.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Their whole front office just so heat. But again, this
is the problem with Stephen A. It's that he doesn't
even ask a pa, hey man, they got a lot
of black people in the front office there, or does
this make any sense?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Instead, he's so arrogant, and the arrogance is supported by
ESPN paying in an ungodly sum of money that he
actually thinks he's making a point.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And the problem with it is.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There's always going to be a portion of society which
listens to the loudest talking people that don't know what
the fuck they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And Steven A. Smith is just such a human being.
This is this is it. It's more than annoying. But
I'll put it in annoying.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, he's not just wrong, like exactly what is what
is Stephen Ross supposed to do? Because the last head
coach was fired because the front office is like, hey,
this guy doesn't like our quarterback, he doesn't like what
we're doing. It's us or him, and they fired the coach.
Now you're like, Okay, our culture is bad because we
brought in some guys like Tyreek Hill, who made the
(29:10):
Tyreek Hill trade the GM okay, and yet like he's
like rooting for Mike mcdamild to get fired.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
By the way, it's also black, you dummy, fucking look
it up. But you're so caught up in trying to
make a point and score points with that percentage of
people that thinks everything is racist.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And so now they walk around again.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I don't watch first take. I just see clips. I
saw this clip and I was like, are you kidding me?
Not because I give a shit what stephen A says.
He says things that are wrong all the time, but
because the power behind stephen A stating something which is
categorically false. Okay, And when I'm saying kagor foss, he's
not wrong that they fired Chris Greer first, and that
(29:55):
Chris Greer is African American, he's not wrong, but he
is wrong because he's insinua.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You know he's this anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
He's saying, basically, it's racist the black guy goes first,
and if he wanted to go, the black guy goes first, Well,
they fired Brian Flores, who's a black head coach, and
they hired a mixed race head coach, and they have
a simone quarterback. So what the fuck are we doing here?
None of these people are white. And if you want to
say Mike McDaniel's white, does fine, you can say he's white.
He identifies as mixed race. I don't questions. I don't
(30:23):
give a shit. I know that Chris Greer was fired
because the team he's put together is a fucking mess.
The defense sucks, and they have bad culture, and they
picked the wrong quarterback. Outside of that, Chris Greer should
be gainfully employed. But instead you have the highest paid
employee of the most powerful sports broadcasting company who purports
(30:46):
himself to be a journalist that either doesn't know or
doesn't care the races of other people, and labels an
NFL team racist because they fired the GM who happens
to be black first, not even talking about the fact
that the entire fun office is black. He doesn't know
that because he doesn't actually do the work. I think,
you know, who's.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
I do.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Because we can. So this is how this works, right,
Michael Jordan is going to say something every Tuesday night,
and then all the all the former athletes with podcasts
are going to respond to what Jordan said. This is
Carmelo Anthony on Michael Jordan saying, I would never do
(31:38):
World management.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
You heard what mj said. My ankle hurt. Fuck that,
I gotta go. I'm tying my shit up. I still
gotta play. I gotta prove myself. That thought process of
having to prove yourself when you hurt. Today it's out
the window. I used to go through that shit my
own self.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Man.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
Fuck that, nobody is telling me I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm not playing.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
I had two torn shoulders me never had surgery until
after this, a cleaning and all that stuff. But playing
through this because I'm built off of a different I'm
built from a different cloth. I want to play. I
want to go out there. I'm not nobody telling me
I can't play should the torn needs I'm going to play.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Carmello Anthony talking about He's gonna play regardless that that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Now, this is the power of television. It really is.
And Michael Jordan is doing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Uh and the NBC is doing to the NBA daily
viewing experience or weekly viewing experience. What the Last Dance did,
which is it's amazing the power of Jordan right that
he can say something that you can't really challenge and
it makes him out to be the great, even greater
(32:56):
than he ever was, and everybody in sports is going
to talk about it. But like we're really acting like
came Caramel Anthey, now is gonna make himself into Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Is that what we're doing? Okay, that's what the fuck? Uh?
Why can we play for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end of the Modus podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
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