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UH special. Thanks go out to the folks at Panini
who've gotten us all some of these great guests, like
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Nick Chubb yesterday, like Sam Donald. I'm gonna ask Sam
Donald if he has asked Adam Gaze what what was
going on with his eyes and what was he looking
at during the press conference. I'm gonna ask him. He
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KANCI Chiefs. Will ask him to break down these four
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and John Middlekoff is gonna join us in fifteen minutes
some of the things that a former scout would look at.
And then we also want to ask him about Kyler
Murray and some of the conversations that he's heard and
how he thinks he'll be evaluated as now he's bade
himself eligible for the NFL Draft. A lot to get to,
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but let's start with the news of the day. We
were told there would be no changes. Hey, no changes.
Cowboys doing the same thing. Remember you had Jerry Jones
going back two days ago saying, if I was the
grade out these coaches, I think they would grade pretty well.
That's my Jerry. It's okay, Like I feel like I
do a better than I do. Uh if I with it,
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But you just have to. You have to. There's certain
sellables you have to. If I was to grade out
the quarters these coaches, I think they would greg pretty well.
And then news comes down today that Scott Linahan, offensed
long time offensive coordinator, has been fired, has been has
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been axed, has been ousted. All right, that's enough, which
which brings us to do the Cowboys make change for
change sake or do they make change because it was
literally because it was definitely needed. And look, their offense
steadily improved when they had Amari Cooper, but there was
a lack of imagination with this offense. On the other hand,
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are there limitations from your quarterback that make the limitations
in terms of the imagination um more apparent? Right, It's like, look,
would you like to have guys running more inventive stuff,
but maybe you have a quarterback who's not capable of
running that stuff and you wanted to be steady and
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you wanted to be And I give credit to Jason
Garrett who apparently pulled the trigger on this move himself.
This was not a Jerry Jones thing. This was a
Jason Garrett thing. And it doesn't appear that this is
a Jason Garrett thing that he felt like had to
do to save his job. He felt like it was
for the betterment of his team. But it's a weird
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It's it's weird timing because so many of the talented
coordinators are already off the market right now. Look, it
is the Cowboys, And I've been told by several people
that Cliff Kingsbury would have been their preferred offensive coordinator
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if this move had been made before Cliff Kingsbury one
signed on at USC and then two became the head
coach of the Arizona Cardinals. And I guess you can
find an offensive coordinator elsewhere. But this is really really interesting.
In the Hey, yesterday, we told you if Lincoln Riley
can fix Jalen Hurts, what can he do in the
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Nashal Football League? Right, just dropped the mic. In college football,
you can make Jalen Hurts into a viable passer after
doing the same thing with Kyler Murray and making him
a Heisman Trophy winner, and the same thing with Baker Mayfield.
I mean, doesn't he become the next coach of the
Dallas Cowboys. Doesn't that become too obvious? So I think
it's I think it's it's several factors. One, it's the
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reality that they're still kind of lame, kind of stale,
kind of limited offensively, and you couldn't make this move
mid season. You respected Linahan enough to allow him to
show improvement and not take the playbook from him, not
have Jason Garrett call plays. But you also have to
stop and look at and go like, look, these are
the guys we have, this is the quarterback we have.
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Let's figure out a way to make it work. And
this move makes a lot more sense than some of
these potential coordinators becoming head coaches because they know Sean McVeigh,
trying something new is great. You just can't try something
new in the middle of the season. It's really really
hard to change things up when guys are used to
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doing doing something. So do I think that Jason Garrett
has heard from others in the organization and maybe even
his quarterback. Sure? Do I think he's heard from people
in the media. I don't think it's crazy to think
that the people he respects not necessarily typical media members,
but former players. Saying hang offense is kind of stale,
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And I think you look around and you're like, well,
who are the best play callers in football? Sean Payton,
he's playing for a championship. Josh McDaniels, he's playing for
a championship. Andy Reid, he's playing for a championship. Sean McVeigh,
he's playing for a championship. And as much as Jason
Garrett has shown himself to be a coach who for
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the most part is solid and steady and really good
at leading a team and good generally with quarterbacks and
deals well in terms of of how he's handled egos.
Jason Garrett has not does not call plays now and
needs to find an expert play caller. Every team does
this at the end of the season, where they call
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guys in, they have the coaches come and everybody comes
in and they do exit meetings. And I'm sure then
you do the self assessment, the self scout, what do
we need to do better? And not taking advantage of
Ezeki Elliott in the passing game, not showing more inventive
ways to move the football was something you couldn't change
on the fly. But now that you have the gift
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of the entire off season, you do it. So do
I love it? Not if it's only reaction to the
media or to the fans, But do I get it? Yeah?
I do. Look at the trend in the National Football League,
look at what's limited your team. Understand you have your quarterback.
You need to find a play caller who fits that
quarterback because that quarterback is not going anywhere. I do.
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I think that Dak Prescott deserves to be a top
five paid quarterback. No do. I think the Cowboys will
probably overpay because you generally overpay for what you have
in and you're not gonna reset the market. But you
do pay the next guy more money than he probably
should get, and there'll be some sort of negotiation between
long term stability, which Dak wants, and top dollar, which
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Dak also wants. He's not going to get both. If
he wants the long term stability, he'll have to take
a little bit less. But this is your quarterback. He
has proven, at least to Jerry Jones and probably to
Jason Garrett, that he's capable of being the starting quarterback
for a long time. Doesn't mean he's great. I told
you before, he's sabarro pizza. But you gotta find a
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more inventive play caller who jobes, who fits better with
Dak Prescott, because remember Scott Linahan was there back when
they had Tony Romo and you could have more kind
of mundane play calls. Why because you had the inventive
nature and the creativeness of Tony Romo, who found a
way to kept place and keep plays alive. Tony Romo
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is essentially Brett farve in a Cowboys uniform. That's not
who Dac is. Find a coordinator, find a system that
mary's best with your quarterback. My guest would be it's
gonna be something where he's gonna be on the move more.
I've asked the NFL players, said, why don't they use
him as a runner more. He's got a big body,
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he can he can run, he can move. Uh, he
can move the pockets some as well. He's not You're
not gonna stand back there and throw fifty balls and
pick a part of defense. That's not who he is.
But doesn't mean you can't win with him. And so
my guess is this is just a clear self assessment
of finding coordinator who fits with coach because they've topped
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out in what they can do. Excuse me, finding coordinator
who fits with quarterback because they've topped out in what
they can do. In the marriage between now former offensive
coordinator Scott Linahan and Dak Prescott. I don't think this
was knee jerk. If it was, Lenahan would have been
gone as soon as the game was over. You would
have heard this news breaking on Monday. This feels like
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it's after talking to all the players and the exit
meetings and after thinking about it long and hard on
how to progress and take the next step with the Cowboys.
And if that's the thought process, that's the one I
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Sam Donald joins the starting quarterback New York Jets QB
one uh got a season under his belt, already gotten
his coach fired? Actually did Sammy? You get your coach fired?
Sam joined Somebody half of Pennini where he's signing NFL
trading cards in Los Angeles. Been a gloomy week here
in l A. But thanks so much, Sam for taking
time out of your day. How would how would you
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characterize your rookie season the NFL? Yeah, A lot of
learning experiences, you can definitely say that. And you know,
I'm just I'm just really excited about I think more
so than anything. It just there are so many games.
I feel like there were um four or five games
that we lost where we were we were winning going
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into the fourth quarters. Um, And I think you know
obviously that you know obviously you don't want that to
you don't want to lose those games with the games
that you should win. But I think that just kind
of shows our promise and UM, it shows that we're
capable of winning a lot of games, and UM, I
think that this team is and I think we're we're
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trimes to be able to do that and to be
able to go on a run next year and and
really kind of just just grow off what we did
this year. You know, there were a lot of UM,
a lot of guys that stepped up. UM, a lot
of new faces that stepped up for this team, and UM,
you know, I'm just really excited to kind of build
off of that. And I think, you know, with coach
Gates and um now coach Greg Williams coming in and
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being able to help out the defense, you know, I
think I think there's a lot of up side to
what we to what we can do and you know,
what we're capable of. So as a whole, you know,
I'm just really really excited. I'm really really excited about
getting to work with coach Jayson in this offense. Any
idea what he was looking at during the press conference, UM, no,
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no idea? Did you did you ask him? Did you go, like, dude,
what what? What what happened there? Do you you do?
You even like, No, I wasn't gonna mention it, you know,
if if if anyone was going to mention it. You know,
I think I wanted to him to bring it up first.
But but no, I think you know, Coach Gates is awesome. Uh.
You know, I talked to him. I talked to him there, um,
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you know, right before the higher became official, and you know,
just kind of talked about where we wanted to seem
to go and and you know, kind of where we've
seen the offense headed. And he has some really really
good ideas, um, some really good thoughts, and I'm just
really excited to hopefully, um, hopefully here soon. Um. I
mean obviously with the rules of the c b A,
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but hopefully here soon we can get together and talk
about this offense a little bit more and and go
go in depth a little bit. Doug gotlip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Sam Donald is our guest. You
mentioned it's a great learning experience. Give me something you learned?
What what what specifically did you learn? Yeah, you know,
I think, um, just learning about the game, because I
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think a lot of people don't realize this. The common
fan doesn't realize it as much. But um, definitely as
a player who just came from college, UM, there's a
lot there's a huge difference between college football and NFL football,
just in the way it's played. You know. I think
college is so much more tempo and it's like, Okay,
we just got to score more points than the other team,
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whereas NFL is so much more of a chess game.
I feel like, and um, you know you're playing you're
playing more of the field position game. And um, you know,
as a quarterback, you become a little bit more conservative
with the ball and um, which I think is what
I learned throughout the throughout the year. And I think
the last few games kind of showed that I felt
like I was a little bit more um, consistent with
where I was going to the football and um, if
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nothing was there, I was going to check the ball
down and let my guys you know, go to work.
And I think that's the biggest thing is for me. Um,
the biggest thing that I learned, UM, for me was
just putting the ball in play, you know. And I
think putting it in whether it's a running back or
receiver tight end. UM, just putting it in someone's handling
and go get some yards. And you know, we gotta
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you know, an open field, gotta make people miss, gotta
gott to create chunk plays on our own. And UM,
I think that's that's kind of the name of the game.
And UM, I learned a lot, you know, this this season,
especially UM. You know, I would especially say, you know,
after that first half where um, you know, things necessarily
didn't go my way and UM had some games where
I performed pretty poorly. UM, and then I got hurt
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there in the middle and learned a ton from from
Joshuma Cown and UM, I think I just learned how
to be consistent, and how to be consistent not only
on the field during Sundays, but also um putting together
great week you know, in the film room and walk
throughs in practice. I think I learned I learned a
ton from Josh and Jeremy Bates and and mich Lombardi,
Davis Webb, all those guys that that worked so hard,
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um to kind of put this thing together and make
it run. UM. So you know, I just I think
I just learned a ton throughout the whole year. There
was a lot that I could have learned from, but
I think that um, specifically, you know, just kind of
learned how to manage a game and um, you know,
how to play the NFL game was was the biggest
thing that I learned. You know, a lot of people
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uh talked about Josh and his influence on you. Heck,
he's even like a member of your family, right, like
your mom and dad come up and and and and
talk to him about above talking to you. What is that? So?
What is he really like? How has he been so
helpful to you? He's amazing. Um, you know, I can't
can't say enough great things about him. Um, He's just
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helped in so many ways. I mean. Um. It was
interesting though because during the beginning of the year, when
I was starting and going through walk throughs and um,
you know practice, Josh wanted to make sure that he
wasn't saying as much as he necessarily thought, or you know,
maybe wanted to just because you know, it was my
time to kind of trying to take over and and
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kind of just make it my team, my offense. And
you know, and then once I got hurt and I
was able to see the way, you know, he wanted it,
you know, UM, because it's one thing of trying to
explain it to someone what she tried to do in
the beginning. UM, which by the way, he did a
great job of. UM. I just must must have not
got it. UM. And then once he got out there
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and I was like, Oh, that's exactly what he was
talking about, or you know, that's how you do a
walk through, and that's what he meant by, UM, speed
up the time in the walk through because you know,
we're we're a little time crush. We want to get
extra plays and so UM. Just kind of the sense
of urgency that he had throughout the week is is
exactly what UM. I think I was lacking in you know,
the beginning of the year. And UM, I think I
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just learned a ton of little things like that from
Josh and UM. But you know, I think the biggest
thing that I learned from Josh is how to be
off the field. UM. You know, the kind of personality
is off the field with his kids and and his
wife and um, with with all of the guys in
the locker room. I think that says more than anything
about Josh and kind of how much he cares about everyone.
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You know, what's funny is I think a lot of guys,
a lot of people think jets New York City that
you're gonna hang Like the facility is nowhere near New
York City and you only you only go in if
you really want to go in. Like, how how close
the facility you live? Yeah, so I live right by
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the facility. I live about probably like a two three
minute drive from the facility. Um, and so without being said,
you know, I'm pretty far away from the city. So um,
but it's nice because I get a nice place to
a nice quiet place where I can sit down and
and focus on my work, focus on football. And then
you know, if I want to get away or my
family's in town, we want to go to a nice dinner. Um,
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Jersey is great places to to go eat. But you know,
if we want to really um, you know, go to
Manhattan or you go to you know, one of those
nice places in the city, we can so um. You know,
it's just a really nice place to be able to
be out, to be quiet. And then whenever we want
to go and and have you know, kind of that
night out with the family or with my teammates who
came how long did it take you to get used
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to having somebody else pump your gas because people don't
know in New Jersey you actually are not allowed to
pump your own gas. How long that did you get
used to? Yeah, you know, it took a while. I'm
gonna be honest. Um, you know it was. But but
at the same time, you know, after after you get
used to, it's kind of nice because you're shit in
your car, especially when it's cold. But uh, no, it's
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funny because Josh the first time that happened to Jos
Josh got out to pump his own gas and uh,
the guy was like, you know, just trying to take
his card from him, and Josh was like, whoa, bro,
what are you doing? Like back off, and Josh got
kind of hostile towards the guy and the guy's like, no,
like it's a legal to pump your own gas here.
So um just was like okay, and um but I
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thought that was kind of funny, and you know, it's
it's a it's a little bit different, but yeah, um,
I've gotten used to it now and when I gets
told especially, it's it's kind of nice. We're gonna see
a couple of the all time greats do it. And
a couple of young guys do it, Guys that you
know really well, Mahomes and and and Jared Golf. Um,
you got chance see Brady up close and personal. Of
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course you've watched him for years. What about Brady did
you not know that you know now having seen him
on the same football field that you played on. Yeah,
I think kind of what I mentioned earlier. Uh, just
he's just a total game manager. Um, he just he
understands where he goes to football. Um. It's so funny though,
because you know, I'm sitting there on the sideline and
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um watching him move around, and he's honest, to be honest,
he's just slow. You know, he's he doesn't move very fast.
He's he's just very methodical. And Um, you look up
and he's already you know, he's got a five minute
drive and he's already down there. And you know, um
scoring touchdowns from the ball are gronk righting the money,
you know, back shoulders, um finding a wide open edelment
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in the end zone. So um, it's just you know,
it's it's crazy, you know, to be able to be
able to watch him play and make it look so easy. Um,
but I think it's more of a testament. Um. And
this is why I have so much respect for him now,
you know, playing my first year in the NFL, of
just how easy he makes it look, because it's not.
It's not that easy, and um, but it's just I
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think it's just a testament to kind of how how
hard he works, and um, all the work that he's
put in every single offseason and during the year especially
great stuff. Hey dude, thanks to the good folks, Panini.
Pretty cool to be looking at your own trading card
right now that you're signing for that's a that's a
that's a cool deal. You have one up in the
frame at the house and saying are your parents house? Definitely, Uh,
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well my dad might. My dad might have a frame,
but you know, I'm not sure. Um, but it's definitely
a cool deal man. I mean, um, to be here
with Panini, and mean he's been with us US rookies
who are here, um since the since really the process started, um,
you know, right when we decided to leave for the
NFL draft. So um, you know, to me, he has
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kind of been there, um this whole way, and um,
I wouldn't want to work with anyone else. You know,
they've been amazing and um, you know every single event
that we go to UM to sign cards and to
kind of hang out in their lounge areas that they
had that they put on it. It's uh, it's great.
You know that there are a class act and you
know I'm not you know again, I wouldn't want to
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be with any other training card company. But it is
funny because you know, growing up collecting cards, um, you
know MLB Upper Deck cops, all those cards, um, that
I collected when I was younger. Um, it's so weird.
You know. When I first saw the card, my rookie card,
I was just like, man, you know, this is getting
pretty real. Um and this was before the rookie season obviously,
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but um man, it's it is pretty insane. It is
pretty surreal to be put us see your face in
your name and your college stats on on that card.
It's it's awesome and um, honestly something I'm doomed of. Yeah,
and you have to swatches at the little jersey swatches
on the Panini cars as cool as well. Hey, well
welcome back home. Uh sorry, we couldn't do more for
the about the weather for you. Um, I don't know.
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I mean it's it's it's insane, but the surface up
so hopefully you get a chance to hit a little
bit in sanchiment. Thanks for joining us, dude, Yeah, awesome, Thanks,
I appreciate well. Pleasure is all ours. That's Sam Donald,
quarterback QB, one of the New York Jets. Be sure
to catch live editions so the Doug Dot Leap Show
weekdays at noon eastern three pm Pacific. I think that
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what Belichick has done surpasses even the greatness of Tom Brady.
It's handling the egos of the quarterback, of the owner,
of the players, being able to be flexible when you
lose staff members, which he has. Remember part of part
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of what happened to the Patriots when they went through
a decade of not winning a championship, which historically will
be seen as well, man a decade, but that win
a championship. In that decade, they did go sixteen and
oh had an undefeated regular season, something we hadn't seen
since the seventy two Dolphins, and they lost in the
Super Bowl. So it's like, did they go a decade? Yeah,
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but they actually probably had their best team during that decade,
they've parted ways with plenty of players and and it
it shouldn't diminish tom Brady, but Tom Brady's first Super
Bowl was not because of Tom Brady. We we remember
things differently now than we did back then. Right back then,
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the Patriots were about the team and the defense. If
you remember back then, everyone used to be introduced, they
have an offense or the defense introduced at the Super
Bowl and the Patriots the first team Rams offense was
introduced and had quarterback for the Rams Kurt Warnerer. Warner.
Kurt Warner comes running out right at running back for
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the Rams, Marshal Falk and it's just star after star
after star after star, Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt, you
name it. And then it was and now the New
England Patriots. And then they come running out in the field.
They went from a team built as a team with
a great defense and with just enough skilled players. Then
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they added Corey, remember they had Corey Dillon, who they
would they would make a They would always make an
acquisition of a guy that somebody else didn't want, or
somebody else who who had had Junior, say out late
in his career. They had Corey Dillon when he couldn't
get along in Cincinnati. They had Randy Moss who had
worn out his welcome and didn't want to be in
Oakland before. Can you say they have been better offensive coaches?
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Sure have there been better defenses. Sure have there been
better quarterbacks? I would act you make the case. Sure
there have been teams that are built more for certain seasons.
But finding a way to be flexible enough to change
styles but rigid enough to establish a culture and a
way of doing things is incredibly difficult. So, yeah, Brady
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is awesome, and Brady has great leadership, but part of
it is part of leadership. This is the everyone has
a boss. Is how Brady's boss allowed him to be
a leader. That actually is on Belichick. You gotta read
your team, you gotta read your players, and you've gotta
understand which guys can handle what you want to give
them you can't get. You can't make a leader out
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of a guy who just isn't one. And when you
find one that is, you gotta stick by him and
you gotta find a way as his ego grows. And look,
we can say what we want about Tom Brady and
how he handles himself and how he leads and how
he works. Let's be honest. Now he's married to a
to the most financially successful supermodel of all time. He's
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the most successful quarterback in football history. Um, if you
think he doesn't have an ego, like, there's just no
way of achieving the level of greatness or the reality
that would have to be suspended in order to believe that.
And Belichick has found a way to nicely coexist with
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that ego. There's a healthy ego and there's an unhealthy ego,
and Brady probably has mostly a healthy ego, but it's
still an ego. And when Robert Craft, your owner, says
your quarterback is the greatest football player of all time, like, man,
this is gonna be really tough. But he's found a
way to coexist, to lead and at sometimes just let
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him be. I'll tweak Tom in the preseason, I'll tweak
Tom in the regular season, but in the postseason, I'm
gonna mostly let Tom and Josh McDaniels just be let
them do them. And oh yeah, by the way, read
your team, read your quarterback and understand what they need.
They went out and drafted Sony Michelle in the first round.
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You don't need a running back in the first round.
This team did, and they did just because he understood
how they would have to play to win once they
got in January. And how did it work last week?
How did it work last week? I told you yesterday.
The fact that Dick Vermeil and Eric Dickerson and others
call them cheaters, it only if they didn't cheat. It
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only means that they're greater than anyone could have ever thought.
That's actually a compliment if you didn't cheat, if you
didn't cheat, and somebody calls you a cheater, that says
you're so awesome, you must be doing something that's not
legal for other people to do. And I think that's
closer to the truth than the idea that they've actually cheated. Um.
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I would say Bill Walsh had a greater impact in
terms of the coaching style and the West Coast offense
and the number of coaches that went on too greatness,
and and Bill Parcels probably did as well. But you know,
Belichick has this kind of coach k way of finding
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a way to always be there in the mix and
for and to have Brady and to lose and to
get rid of so many other talented pieces at times
and still be able to achieve. We always point out
on now the Bills and the Jets and the Dolphins
haven't figured out. You don't think they're trying, do you.
You don't think they're not. I mean, you don't think
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they're not trying, do you. Of course they're trying. They
just can't seem to achieve it. They just can't seem
to figure it out. They can't seem to crack the code.
The league is designed designed to bring you back to
earth after a great year, and they've had double digit
wins all except for one year in which Tom Brady
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has been their quarter act with Bill Belichick as her coach.
That's not greatness. I don't know what is