November 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug talks about his season opener at Kansas tonight. On this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the weekend. Doug welcomes former Chargers' GM Tom Telesco onto the show to talk about the Chargers, Jayden Daniels and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:21):
Welcome in. We're in Lawrence, Kansas today. Why you ask?
First day at college basketball season and my Green Bay
Phoenix are going to take on the Kansas Jayhawks, so
we'll get to love and hate in a moment. We
got Tom Telesco joined this hour. We still want to
(00:44):
talk more of this about the World Series and what
an incredible Game seven. Game six was amazing too. But
this is year two for me, and obviously we've adjusted
a lot of things in kind of understanding the two
jobs and how it works, and trying to help my
guys in LA because because they they sometimes don't know
what's going on with when we're on the road. But
(01:06):
I'm really excited, really excited for both year two of
doing the radio show while coaching basketball and year two
of coaching college basketball. But it's interesting, you know, like
you stop and it's really important that and people say
it all the time. I mean to stop and smell
the roses and think about things. I just you get
these surreal moments, right with all these things that collide
(01:30):
in your life. I grew up watching Kansas play like
everybody in southern California, I mean, you're we watched Big
East basketball and then Kansas had a point guard named
Jock Vaughan who was from LA. They always had an
LA player or two that Roy Williams's command coach. Now
Jock Vaughn is part of the other sidelines who's coached
by Bill self, who's not only a Hall of Famer,
(01:51):
but Bill's in Oklahoma State alum, former Oklahoma State point guard.
And he was a guy that when I finished playing,
I actually wrote him a letter asking him, Hey, when
I stopped playing, I'd always love to work for you.
And then I end up getting a job at ESPN,
and the rest kind of took care of itself. And
now you get to coach. Like I was standing there
at shoot around guys, and I tried to describe it
(02:14):
to our supporters as the Lambeau of basketball, right, It's that.
It's just it's so pristine in it's look and feel
that you could walk in and say, it's if you
said it's the nineteen sixties. Everybody now their idea. Yeah,
feels like nineteen sixties, right the new video huge video
board for the scoreboard. But other than that, it looks
(02:34):
the same as it looked previously. But just that surreal
moment of you know, right before tip looking down the
sidelines and seeing Bill self, you know, arguably the greatest
coach of the modern era basketball six national championship banners.
You know, they have the rules of the sport in
the building. I don't know, it's it's gonna be a
(02:55):
cool moment, really really cool moment. There's been a lot
of cool ones. This one's right up there. And then
you know, people, I had somebody ask me, Jase to
what are you gonna tell your team? And I'll tell
you right now, I'm gonna tell me, Hey, you've got
a chance to author the greatest opening night story in
the history of the support. Right now, nobody cares that.
(03:19):
Are you know that the lead Nations leading score broke
his ankle or all the injuries or things that we
walked into, or academic probation. Nobody cares about that. They
just hey, we I took over a team a little
bit late in the cycle and we had a rough year,
and a lot of people like to dog pylon because
I guess that brings them joy. Good for them, But
(03:41):
for me, I learned a lot. And you know, I,
like any basketball coach, will honestly tell you, we don't
really know what we have just yet. I think we
could be prett damn good, but it's gonna take a
minute because guys are still figuring out the level. But
I do know that if we win this game, it's
(04:02):
all anybody's can talk about, right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm really happy for you, Doug. I'm very very happy
for you. This is awesome. You know, behind the scenes,
we tried to get the show there didn't quite work
out logistically. I was able to experience your first game
last year, a year ago, and still water would love
to be in warrance today. But I do have a question.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yep, there's a question.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The niece an answer, and the answer is if only
there was someone with the authority and the wisdom to
give us that answer.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So, Doug, you have a really different roster than a
one that took the court last year. Could you give
me a couple of names that we should look for
tonight as we watch the Phoenix try to do the
impossible overcome a thirty point underdog difference against Kansas tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Look, there's some names that people are going to talk about.
Remel Bethea's a name people are going to talk about.
He's twenty nine, he's a sophomore, he was in the Navy,
he didn't play basketball growing up. I have no idea
how he's going to react to tonight. I mean, like
Legit has probably never played in front of more than
a couple of hundred people, and now he's going to
go against Florrie Badunga, who is an absolute freak of
(05:17):
an athlete, who's a bigger, stronger, younger version of what
he does dunk block shots role and I loved. So
I'm excited for Romel to experience this, to experience it.
We have Lebron Thomas. Yes, that's right, I have a
player named Lebron on my team. There's a lot of
irony to it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I know me.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, he was a first team Junior College All American
point guard, and it'll be a lot it'll be a
challenge for him. Right this is a higher level, very different,
But I'm really excited to see what he does because
he's not perfect player, but he's a really competitive kid
who's won a ton of games at junior college, and
I'm excited to see how he competes. So those would
(05:59):
be the first two in and Marcus Hall, who's my
best returning player, and you know, last year is one
of those while we're losing, you're trying to fill your
kids full of confidence to make them believe, hey, it's
not them, it's you, and you'll be You'll put a
better team around him next year. Marcus Hall is gonna
have a great year and he is an awesome human
(06:20):
being to to coach in his career. So those would
be the three first names. Ramel Bethea who's six' nine
with a seven to four, Wingspan Lebron thomas who's six
three and ninety five, pounds and he's the opposite Of
lebron in that he's right handed in real life and
left handed as a basketball player Was lebron's you, know the,
obvious the left hand in real life and right handed basketball.
(06:42):
Player and Then Marcus hall who's From, Schofield. Wisconsin there you, go.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Hey Coach Sam kinsley here from The Davenport, Press Davenport
Free Times. Press so just listen ten ten minutes into the.
Game first, Half all, RIGHT i should say first half
of the first, half maybe first half of the, game
first twenty. Minutes are are you like looking at a
department of your team, rebounding, scoring you, know three point
(07:08):
shooting that you're maybe worried, About like what do you
want to? See you're, like there's some department that you're like,
this this could be a soft spot for, us a week.
Spot we need to test it out against these very
Talented Kansas.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Jayhawks, WELL i, mean look last, year obviously rebounding was
a huge issue with, us and just overall. Toughness we
felt like we'd get them there and then we get
pushed around and fall apart some in the second. Half so, rebounding, defense,
toughness and they're. Young they Have Darren peterson who's gonna
be the number one overall, pick and he's an incredible. Shooter.
(07:39):
Scorer the rest of their young ones haven't made shots
yet in their exhibition. GAMES i think they're a better
shooting team than the. Numbers usually it takes guys a
couple of games to settle. Down so we want to.
See what you want to see is are you trying
to do what we've been coaching you on? Doing and
will you compete against, bigger more athletic guys in a hostile.
(08:02):
Environment that's, It that's really. It are you gonna try
and do what we? Want or you can try and
do your own? Thing and then are you gonna compete
because you're gonna get pushed, around you're gonna get a
non foul cal you're gonna make a. Mistake are you
gonna compete or are you gonna sulkan pout or or
get kind of intimidated by the? Atmosphere one thing here
before we get to. MONTHS i know you have a.
QUESTION i do want to be critical of essentially every
(08:26):
paper or online site who has done an article on this.
Game and this is you The Kansas City, star and
there's other there's Other topeka newspapers and. Whatever no one has.
Call all they do is aggregate quotes from like media
day or some other. Article is it that hard to
(08:46):
ask to come to shoot around and ask a question
or call me and ask a. Question it's. Crazy it's
not about me or About Green bay or our. Story
but we're getting ready to Play kansas And bill self
And Darren. Peterson you want to get a quote from
the opposing coach who can give you a pretty good.
Quote but, NO i guess again To Jay stew's, lament
this is media in twenty twenty five where people want
(09:09):
to just aggregate a quote and use it for their own.
Story you, know it's like Coach prime, SAYS i ain't
hard to. Find what do you got?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
There?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Months? All?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Right in your second, year is there some different approach
that you are going to take you yourself as a,
coach something that maybe you did last year that this
year you want to approach it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Differently, yes we. Do we commit to defensive vitamins every,
day defense and rebounding every. Day, okay, weird that is
not what happened last year is not going to happen
on my, watch which is we JUST i did not
think we were nearly as good, defensively and we played
people more based upon trying to find mismatches than playing
(09:48):
who are who? Are what's the best defensive? Lineup we
have start there every. Game you, know it's like what
what you do is you do like a self, audit,
right you go back through things and WHEN i went,
back what loses you? Games it doesn't matter if you
play fast or. Slow it doesn't matter what offense you,
run what defense you run is, okay is who wins
(10:09):
the turnover, battle who wins the rebounding? Battle and then
it's after that it's quality of shot and can you
defend three point? Line so those are the things that
we focused, on and then the rest we can kind
of build. Out so, yeah the approach is very very
To my staff is. DIFFERENT i have three new assistant,
COACHES i have ten new. Players there's a different kind of.
(10:31):
Energy it's a different sort of guy where they're older
and they're a little bit more, stubborn a little bit slower,
learner but tougher and a little bit. Withered So i'm
interested to see how much the approach helps. Us and
then the last part month Says i'm a super competitive.
Guy you get into games and you're, like, well it's
just you can win every. Game you do have to
(10:53):
keep in, mind you have to continue to develop players
playing the long, game you, know the games that really.
Matter we play three league games In december and the
rest start After january, First so those are the games
that we need to build up. For and there's some
of our players that aren't gonna be great, tonight but
we think can be really helpful once we get.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
THERE i don't know anything about college, basketball BUT i
THINK i could tell you a fact about. Tonight those
Five kansas players that take the court to begin the
game are all self.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Starters hey, Good, oh you know what he just did?
There he did. Alliteration that's that's one of his favorite.
Things let's get to love and? Hate shall? We what
we love from the? Weekend what we hate from the?
Weekend let's, Go, GOD i.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Love you and what did you?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Hate meet these?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Player Hay is.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Love love love love, love love hate hate hate hate,
Hate Jay stu start us. Off what'd you love from the?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Weekend this is the best part about your favorite baseball
team winning is that your, offspring your your child is
a much bigger fan than. Mine so for those listeners
who don't, KNOW i have a fully grown adult child
Named jacob AND i have never met a Bigger dodger,
fan so on My instagram right. NOW i just posted
(12:14):
it At Jason Stewart sports the happiest part of my.
Weekend WHAT i loved most was sharing in the, joy the,
emotion and the tears with my son as The dodgers
brought home another. Championship Because jacob is like an actual normal.
Fan he's not like. Me he's not, negative LIKE i
(12:35):
am mfing this team for seven, games And jacob's, like
why you gotta be so? Negative why can't we? Win
and you, know he's just one of those. Fans so
when they actually, win it's just, pure unadulterated emotion and.
Elation by, far the biggest happiest part of my. Weekend
AND i loved. HIM i love, HIM i love, YOU
(12:56):
i love all of our, listeners AND i love The.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Dodgers months months of, WEEKEND i Knew jason would definitely
take The dodgers, winning and OBVIOUSLY i love.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
That of COURSE i. Did it was such a great.
Series we've talked about, that But i'm not gonna. LIE
i also really love That Kawhi leonard hit a game
winner On friday night against The. Pelicans he has another game.
Winner it's just like it's unfair that some players who
are great don't get. Those and Here's Kawhi leonard just
constantly hitting game. Winners AND i know he's injured half the,
(13:30):
time And i'm a very Emotional clippers, fan but at
least he gives me these little highs throughout the season
that keep me.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Afloat Uh, So i'm so.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Glad AND i also dressed up As Philly, karen AND
i THINK i did a great job AND i love.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
THAT i saw. It it was really.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Good thank you so, Much.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Thank you so, Much Philly En.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Philly, Well i'm taking a bit of sloppy seconds. Here
Maybe i'm just co signing on What jason was talking,
about endorsing what he was talking, about because as a
transplant me coming here From iowa To Los angeles and
just twenty, FIFTEEN i got to listen to a little
bit Of Vin scully in his last year before here ret.
Hired i've been to Playoff i've been to a playoff
(14:08):
game At Dodgers stadium when that they lost, unfortunately And
i've been to regular season games At Dodger. STADIUM i
can tell you this Much dodger baseball is the real.
Deal the fans are the real. Deal and if you're
someone who moves out, here you become absorbed by The.
Dodgers it is easy to be A dodgers, fan especially
SINCE i moved. Here they've been WINNING Nl west titles
(14:28):
since what twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Fourteen that's the second time you've said. That do you
think they are winning because you moved. HERE i think
the ownership, change you, know catapulted them into contender. Status
MAYBE i had something to do with, It probably, Not but,
LISTEN i moved here at a great time When Dodger
baseball has never been, hotter and it's IT'S i grew
up A phillies fan In, iowa and then you, know
(14:51):
people love The cubs The cardinals In. Iowa but there's
something about being you're From Los angeles and you're A dodgers.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Fan it's so it's so. Pure and, again it's easy
to be A dodgers fan because they win a. Lot
so that being, SAID i think that this second, one
LIKE i said in the first, segment in the first,
segment this second one of the back to back is
sweeter because of how much of a struggle it was
the battle against The Blue, jays who were ready for the.
Fight i'll take, listen it's. Okay i'm gonna endorse What jason.
(15:16):
Said this was an incredible sports. Weekend this was a
lot Of dodger fans thought this series was, lost but
also a lot of them kept the, hope kept the,
faith and it paid. Off they won in seven in
one most Epic world series of all.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Time i'm Again i'm okay SAYING i loved, it AND
i loved every minute of. It and the coolest part,
is you, know to those of us who, remembers was
it city, slickers you know where where they talked about
baseball and what it means to. You my son doesn't
(15:51):
play baseball, anymore but from the time he was probably
three or four years, old we played catch five days
in a, week sometimes seven days in a, week and
multiple times in a. DAY i coached, him you, know
growing up in. Baseball he's a little left handed. Pitcher
(16:12):
and so When i'm watching the game and we start
texting back and forth about the, game and he didn't.
Go it was like A saturday, night his buddies are
going out and he's just, LIKE i, go what are you?
Doing who you with by myself That i'm watching this.
Game it's. Awesome so we're texting back and forth all
(16:34):
this funny, stuff AND i Just i'm thankful for, baseball.
Man it's so great and it reinvigorated all the memories
the eighty Eight World. Series you know Where gibson hit
the home. RUN i went To game. TWO i took
my son The game one when they lost to The
Red sox in The World. SERIES i remember THE Covid World,
series WHICH i actually, liked AND i liked because everybody
(16:57):
we were still everybody's still, home you, know AND i
remember you a trick or treating In Newport beach and
everybody's got The dodger game on during The World. Series
just all the good memories and then you get you
get rewarded for the time put in with an incredible
finish to an incredible. Series that's WHY i love for the.
Weekend all, right let's get to what we hated for the.
(17:18):
WEEKEND a resident hater Is Jason.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Stewart what do you, Got, jay same, Topic dodgers Game
game six and. SEVEN i sent out a tweet over
the weekend that actually got some. Traction it's still in the.
Algorithm i'm still getting reaction to, it a lot of.
Engagement and you, know On, Twitter, doug the normal thing
is you put something out, there unless You're. Monzi if
you're an attractive, female it's a different. Experience but if
(17:41):
you're just, me a fifty two year old white, man
you throw out, something half the people call you fat and,
ugly and the other half actually agree with what you.
Say this is like ninety five. Percent if there is
like a thousand comments under my, tweet ninety five percent
of agree with. This why are they doing in game?
(18:02):
Interviews rosenthal And verducci were embarrassing. Themselves they have no.
Awareness first of, all they can't read the. Room they're
compelled to do these canned in question interviews and the
game is going on in the background while it's. Happening,
literally there were things in important games going, on and the,
Manager John schneider actually apologized To Ken rosenthal for not
(18:25):
being able to do the interview because he had to
do his freaking. Job get rid of the in game
interviews in important, games save them for The All star
games or regular season, games but Not game six and
seven of The World. SERIES i hated.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That motts hate for the. WEEKEND i one agree With.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
JASON i hate, that AND i even hated during the regular.
Season but, ANYWAY i really hated AND i know you're
going to talk about it a little bit, More, coach
BUT i hated That Jayden daniels got injured last night
because it put me in my own predicament of. Thoughts
HERE i am, saying, like, No Steph curry's got to
play every minute of every game because he is the
star of the. SHOW i need him out. There and
(19:07):
SO i know The commanders were not in the. Game
even though we have seen The broncos score what thirty
one thirty three points to come back and beat The.
Giants we saw what The bills did against The, ravens
so we know the scoring can. Happen BUT i felt
myself in a predicament BECAUSE i was, like, No Jaden
daniels should be out. There, oh but should he be
out there because, like the game is so far away
and he's their, star he's their. Future, no but they're at.
(19:27):
Home the fans paid to See Jenden, daniels and THAT i.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
HATE i hate.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
THAT i CAN'T i can't decide how what the right
answer is for, myself like HOW i feel about? It
SO i hate That Jayden daniels got. HURT i hate
it for the, commanders but more so of like should
he have been out?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
There? Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Right, NO i don't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
KNOW i hate.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That doug Stug.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Gottlieb Show fox what's ready to sam me hate in the.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Weekend, well first of, All, doug hold on a, Second,
DOUG a couple of things happened last. Night you're a
you're a, coach so you have a unique perspective on.
This did Dan quinn make the right? Call and how
many times did you watch the elbow dislocate?
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Twice?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Uh thirty? Times Because i'm a sicko like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That that's where zero ZERO i did you see it live?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Happen?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
No, Well, jason but oh oh we all kind of saw. Him,
WELL i guess the replay would been the most clear.
Thing soon as somebody, says, OOH i just look, away.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It Was danklin. Made he made the wrong. Decision gotta get,
HIM i, mean gotta get him out of. There AND
i get you're probably, like, hey let's just end it
on a good. Note let's get a good, drive let's
get him going, right, Right but he's coming off an
injury and what's what's what's the win and it's a
freak thing gets his elbow and on his knee whatever,
Like but, no it's. NOT i, mean you know we Played.
(20:40):
Friday you, Know friday is a game we Played. BUFFALO i,
Again i'm like last YEAR i Left anthony roy and
late in some of these games to be, competitive and
he had helped him leave the country in. Scoring again,
TONIGHT i don't know WHAT I i don't know where
all side on WHO i play WHEN i play him?
Late you, know if we're up, thirty you, know because
that could that could. Happen we could be. Up that
was sarcass and by the, way it could be up thirty.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Up, yeah it's a blowout that you're winning.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
In what do you?
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Do that's a Good your whole team is gonna turn
Into Miguel.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rojas, yes, Okay sammy Wich hay from the.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Weekend, Quick i'll be very quick when it gets dark
by five pm because of daylight saving, time and then
and then it's gonna get even darker even, earlier for
like the next six. Weeks it'll be dark at four
forty five by next, week which is just weird because
at six thirty, Pm i'm like completely out of, it
And i'm, like SHOULD i eat? Dinner SHOULD i go to?
BED i don't know what to. DO i know it's
forgiving us more h daylight hours in the, morning so it's,
(21:36):
fine but it sucks in the afternoon when it's dark
by four forty.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
FIVE i hate that My. Chargers everybody gets.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Hurt not the way The chargers.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Do why? What what? Happened was it the move to
From San diego To la that caused the cosmic balance
of karma to be thrown? Out?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Why? Oh and then you had the performance coach who
told everybody he acted like he had he had the
secret to health in THE.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Nfl the left and the right, ankle the left and
the right. Shoulder he's, like we're gonna focus on both of.
Those i'm, glad glad you're. Not you're not gonna ignore
the right shoulder over the.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
List and for people who don't know what we're talking,
about The chargers have a performance. Coach he came With
Jim harbaugh From, michigan and he arrogantly made it out
like he knew why The chargers have always had injuries
and he had the cure to. Cancer i'm gonna fix.
It and what is? It what has? Happened, WELL i
mean we Had herbert get hurt last, year the whole
offensive line out this, year every running back has gotten.
(22:34):
Hurt like you name. It, YEAH i mean pride comes
before the. FALL i hate. It that is. Love and, Hey.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
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Live it's The Doug Gottlieb. Show he Ron Fox Sports,
radio and we are are so pleased to be joined
by our good Friend Tom, telesco FORMER gm of The
chargers and last year with The, raiders and he joins
us for his weekly visit here on the. Show, actually
let me start with The. Chargers god is the organization?
(23:15):
CURSED i, mean more injuries to that offensive. Line Joe
alt now Heard pipkins heard like you name it their?
Herd what what's that? Like because you've actually been this
is a situation you've been. In you've had Good charger
teams that just get, destroyed especially with offensive line. Injuries
(23:35):
what's that?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Like, well it's not a comforting. FEELING i can tell you,
that especially because of the position that if it was
a center or, guard you can usually mask those injuries
a little. Bit there's this a larger pool of players
either on the street or you could possibly trade or
just bump up from your practice. Squad but when you
talk about offensive, tackles there's just so few available as
(23:58):
they try and make adjustments right. NOW i, mean you
can look at the trade, market but you, know good
luck trying to find a starting left their right tackle
at this point of the season that someone would actually
give you who can. Play that's the biggest. THING a
lot of names you see up there for possible, trades
there's a reason why their names out there because they
can't play or help them team in, with so they're
gonna have to move from players. Around, look this is
(24:18):
the GM's job and the coaching staff's job to. Adjust
it happens at different. Positions offensive line is one of
the harder ones to. Handle but as you saw, Yesterday
Justin herbert just put him on his back and it
was really a sloppy game by both. Teams but these
are the type of games that you, Know Jim harby
just doesn't lose these type of. Games you, know there
could have been a trap. Game they're going To. Tennessee
(24:38):
tennessee had a ton of injuries coming. In they're not
a very good football, team and it wasn't, clean but
they got the game with the. Win now they're have
to figure out a little bit of a reshuffle on
the offensive. Line but something they've been dealing with the whole.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Year help me out on. Something would you explain The
Green Bay packers to?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Me, well if you look at the glass half, full
there are five than two essentially right. Now so all
is not, lost but there's just something that's not clicking right.
Now so yesterday it was just just way too many.
MISTAKES i, mean they're getting the red zones five times
in one. Touchdown it's hard to win that win and
(25:15):
you got, turnovers you have some. Sacks but they have talent,
there they have the coaching to withstand. This but, yeah
it's just they're going through a really tough time right.
Now so but they have to kind of get. Back
Jordan love can, play he just looks a little bit.
Off the offensive line has been very strong for them
in the last couple of, years but they're just not
(25:36):
playing as one right. Now that's WHERE i think we
got to look at what The packers right now is
just a protection up, front keep things, clean try and
get the running game going a bit. More but there's
still plenty of time when the season they kind of
get things figured. Out they're still five and.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Two Yeah, S doug gotlib show here On Fox Sports.
Radio why Was Jane daniels in the game when they're
getting blown out?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Late i'm sure that's the first question that was. Asked
when when Coach quinn came off the. Field, YEAH i
mean that's six minutes to, go the game's out of,
hand he's coming off with. Injury i'm sure was talked
about over the headsets at some point before the drive.
Started you, know they decide to keep him. In it's
just really. Unfortunate you, know he's had a number of
(26:19):
injuries this, year and you know this was the. One
he didn't have very many holes coming out of, college
but you know one of them, was you, know the
body type plus the play. STYLE i, mean if you
remember remember in, college he took a lot of hits
and that's just a style of. Play but those start
to add up after a. While and then you get
to this level and the guys are bigger and, faster
and then you throw a little bit of bad luck in,
(26:41):
there and you, know this is where it. Is but
it's just really unfortunate to. See but, Yeah i'm sure
going back either probably, thinking, yeah we probably should have removed.
Them i'm, sure But i'm Sure quinn was, saying, look
let's let's get a score. Here he didn't play much
in the last couple. Weeks let's get him one series
and we'll get him. Out but this is what, happened
and it's just really. Unfortunate now the whole team has
(27:03):
just been hit by, injuries a ton of starters other than,
him and this has just been a really rough year for.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Them, okay also in a rough year for The. Bengals
they've had a lot of. Injuries but, there you, know
their defense once again can't stop. Anybody i'm not GONNA
i got my own comments on this, thing which we
have in the. PODCAST i want to get your. Thoughts
Chase brown is running back for The, bengals who had
thirty seven yards rushing the. Football by the, way he
(27:29):
did have eight catches for seventy five, yards and you,
know he called out the. Defense you, know you got
to get a. Stop we gotta get a. Stop we
gotta play complimentary. Football just get a stop so we
can go to victory. Formation when you're the general manager
and you hear your running back say, that what goes
through your mind?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
First that he's just so. FRUSTRATED i don't Know Chase brown,
personally but we did a lot of work on him
when he was in. College he's a great kid and
he's a, leader so he just must have been totally
frustrated and he probably spoke out a. Turn this is
one of those where you'd probably bring the player in
as A gm to sit and down and talk to.
HIM i WISH i could hear the whole. Interview there's,
(28:07):
always as you, know there's always contacts. INVOLVED i know
how you feel about, it BECAUSE i just heard the
end of your podcast and, uh, yeah you're pretty strong about,
it WHICH i, get but, YEAH i mean, Oftense, well that's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
What, Tommy that's WHAT i would. Say that's WHAT i
would say if we're in front of the, Team that's
WHAT i would. Say behind closed, doors, okay in front of,
it in front of, EVERYBODY i would, say what you're saying,
HEY i know he's, frustrated you, know is probably taking
a lot of context whatever you saw sell, it but
behind closed, doors LIKE i don't know regardless of if
you're you can be right if they said that in
(28:39):
our in my, business and you can be, right but
you can be out of a, job like he may be,
right but you don't say.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Hey, now and he'll have to get, up be from
of the team and probably apologize for what he said
because it is still a. Team but to, me the
bigger thing Is Joe flacco is. AMAZING i, mean forty years,
old ac joint issue with, this with this throwing, shoulder
a throws for four to seventy four touchdowns behind an
offensive line that has struggled to block The joe. Burrow
(29:05):
so that's Been that's the huge. Story and then, defensively
like they had a huge problem defensively last. Year they
made a change of defensive coordinator that they Removed Lou
Andmo lou And romo's outstanding and he's showing that with The.
Colts we always had a hard time playing Against. Lou
this is not a scheme. Issue this is a talent
issue on that side of the. Ball on. Defense they
(29:26):
do have some starting caliber players on, defense but there
are no playmakers other Than hendrickson who's now. Out there's
just no impact at. ALL i don't know what happened
To Logan. Wilson Logan wilson is an excellent middle. LINEBACKER
i don't know if he just hasn't played well this.
YEAR i don't know if there's anything else going. On
he was a leader on that. Defense so, yeah like
they can't get a, Stop but at some point the
(29:46):
teams don't have to come together the head, coach the
player and THE gm whoever it is at this point
for The, bengals and discuss it and get get on
the right, page because you can't have that in the
locker room post, Games.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No you. Cannot Doug gottlieb show here On Fox Warts.
Radio Tom telesco is our. Guest of, Course tom was
former gentle manager eleven years with The, chargers last year
with The Las Vegas. Raiders, again we know The bengals
defense isn't particularly, good but is it fair to say
That Cayleb williams is getting?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Better it's so funny if The bears, win he's improving
and he's arrived if The bears, lose he's addressing in the.
Bus it's probably somewhere in the. Middle he's making small,
improvements but his style is a. STYLE i, MEAN i
don't think he's ever going to be a timing and
anticipation pocket. Passer you do see a couple throughout the,
game but in the end he's an off scheduled magician
(30:40):
and you have to lean into. It but the best
thing WHAT i saw The bears have a definite identity
right now That Ben johnson hasn't put it on, them
and this their running. Game they're in for two hundred
eighty three yards yesterday and they've been running the ball
really well this. Year that's completely change the identity of
the football. Team obviously helped Out Caleb. Williams so that
was my takeaway from that. Game And i'm just super
(31:01):
impressed By Ben jackson what he's done with the. Offense
you're gonna have to lean into How kala, plays but
they're wearing the ball strong right. Now the offensive link's
playing very well and that had been a huge hole
for them in prior.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
Stut Gottlieb Show here On Fox Sports, Radio Tom telesco
is in fact our, guest explain to me The Detroit
lions and what's going on with.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Them that's. TOUGH i, know the one, thing and there's
there's always a lot of little things like yesterday's. Game
they just didn't play. Well a ton of. Penalties you
gave up a block. KICK i think they gave up
a ton of. Sacks so yesterday it just wasn't a clean.
Game the issue for them hasn't always been so much the.
(31:55):
Offense yet issue right now is. Defense and this has
been the corner position the last couple of. Years last year,
Injury this year did the, injury and just the talent.
Level they've hit on more top picks than most, teams
But terry And arnold is just not paying dividends yet
a corner and it's hard to line up in this
league if you can't, cover and that's just a bit
a big. Hole, again it's early enough in the. Season
(32:17):
they're going to be. Fine they're five and, three their
offense is still very, good they're well, coached and they're,
physical but yesterday it was just way too, much way
too many. Mistakes it just they're rarely to the, lines
not play a clean, game and, yes it wasn't a clean.
Game BUT i THINK i know it's hard for us on.
Now i'm like, You i'm part of the. Media you
have to look at the big body of, work not
just kind of react off yesterday's. Game their body work
(32:40):
is still pretty, clean but yesterday was not a great
game for.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Them Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports. Radio Tom
telesco is our. Guest what did The bills do to
Frustrate Pat mahomes throughout the FOOTBALL.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I thought they did a great. Job and this is
what in the off, season The bills made a concerted
effort to improve, defense and you could see just with
the pass rush. Yesterday Joey bosa was. Outstanding Greg grusseau
without saying both of those guys were. Relentless they consistently
won their one on ones against The chiefs. Tackles the
chief tackles are not, strong but those guys really bottled
(33:15):
up their rush and then The bill's having a chance
to play more man coverage against The chiefs that's. Helpful
Max harrison is a, Rookie he's a first round draft.
Pick he's got out standing speed and man. Coverabilities they
dropped him in the first round for a, reason probably
with the with the focus on how do we play
against The, chiefs and he fit well and he can
(33:35):
cover The chiefs receivers with the speed because as we
know With, mahomes when he starts scrambling and you want
to play zone against, them the more he, moves the
more the zones starts to, distort and nobody has a
better vision to the shoot with the. Ball he's he's
like a Young Doug gottlieb as a point. Guard you,
know he just he moves his, zone spinds open. Men
but if you play a man, coverage it's a little,
stickier a little harder to find. Guys so The bills
(33:57):
played a little bit more man, coverage played it, well
and then the pass which was really good from the
outside and to keep them in the. Pocket LIKE i,
Said joey played a great. Game Greg russo was just
relentless with this, chase AND i showed up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
What. Happened The colts were kind of humming along there
up early and then The steelers unbelievable second quarter that
kind of put put The colts on their heels. AGAIN
i keep asking the, question which which is the Real? Colts?
Right but they. Did they had the ball more than
The steelers that they had, longer but six. Turnovers how
(34:32):
to explained six turnovers to a team that have played
in such clean football?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Today, yeah you, know it's funny because going into the
SEASON i thought The steelers are the best defense in
the league and they had not played anything like. It
but like good Like tomlin, teams they're starting to, improve
trying to figure some things. Out they traded For Kyle
duger From New. England Kyle dugger played a ton of
snaps at safety in this past. Game they Moved Jalen
ramsey to safety out of the nickel, spot AND i
(34:59):
always felt later In jalen's, career which is where we
are right, now he'd be an outstanding, safety and that's
where they played. Him he played very well. Yesterday they
played more, zone more zone covers With Joey porter because
that fits his. Style he's not really a man. Cover
he's not really a quick, twitch king of direction. Corner
so they started to make some tweaks on. Defense they
(35:20):
always have the pass, rush but the better coverage and
the back end allows the pass rush and extra millisecond
to get. There And Daniel jones always that hole With
Daniel jones is those key big. Errors it's the, sacks
that stack crumbles and the. Interceptions And steelers got after it.
Yesterday AND i think once in the second, half once
once the, game once the score got a certain, point
(35:41):
all of a, Sudden Joathan taylor's run game is out
the window and now a straight dropped back pass and
The colts have a very good offensive. LINE i think
this is a one, off but it was a, tough
tough run For Daniel jones there in the second. Half
but this is a type of DEFENSE i think The
steelers can play and they will play moving, forward as
it took them about half the year to kind of
figure out what's the best way to approach. It BUT
i like what they did. Yesterday tell me are the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Best wish us some. Luck we got The jayhawks and
the fog literally later on, tonight and Then i'm headed
to your hometown On friday and take on The bulls Of.
Buffalo The bulls.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Of buffalo Awesome alumni holl just In buffalo last. WEEK
i WISH i would. Have If i'd have been there this,
WEEK i would have, gone but good. Luck, tonight go
bout to The, phoenix enjoy the field house, there and
good luck
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(00:21):
Welcome in. We're in Lawrence, Kansas today. Why you ask?
First day at college basketball season and my Green Bay
Phoenix are going to take on the Kansas Jayhawks, so
we'll get to love and hate in a moment. We
got Tom Telesco joined this hour. We still want to
(00:44):
talk more of this about the World Series and what
an incredible Game seven. Game six was amazing too. But
this is year two for me, and obviously we've adjusted
a lot of things in kind of understanding the two
jobs and how it works, and trying to help my
guys in LA because because they they sometimes don't know
what's going on with when we're on the road. But
(01:06):
I'm really excited, really excited for both year two of
doing the radio show while coaching basketball and year two
of coaching college basketball. But it's interesting, you know, like
you stop and it's really important that and people say
it all the time. I mean to stop and smell
the roses and think about things. I just you get
these surreal moments, right with all these things that collide
(01:30):
in your life. I grew up watching Kansas play like
everybody in southern California, I mean, you're we watched Big
East basketball and then Kansas had a point guard named
Jock Vaughan who was from LA. They always had an
LA player or two that Roy Williams's command coach. Now
Jock Vaughn is part of the other sidelines who's coached
by Bill self, who's not only a Hall of Famer,
(01:51):
but Bill's in Oklahoma State alum, former Oklahoma State point guard.
And he was a guy that when I finished playing,
I actually wrote him a letter asking him, Hey, when
I stopped playing, I'd always love to work for you.
And then I end up getting a job at ESPN,
and the rest kind of took care of itself. And
now you get to coach. Like I was standing there
at shoot around guys, and I tried to describe it
(02:14):
to our supporters as the Lambeau of basketball, right, It's that.
It's just it's so pristine in it's look and feel
that you could walk in and say, it's if you
said it's the nineteen sixties. Everybody now their idea. Yeah,
feels like nineteen sixties, right the new video huge video
board for the scoreboard. But other than that, it looks
(02:34):
the same as it looked previously. But just that surreal
moment of you know, right before tip looking down the
sidelines and seeing Bill self, you know, arguably the greatest
coach of the modern era basketball six national championship banners.
You know, they have the rules of the sport in
the building. I don't know, it's it's gonna be a
(02:55):
cool moment, really really cool moment. There's been a lot
of cool ones. This one's right up there. And then
you know, people, I had somebody ask me, Jase to
what are you gonna tell your team? And I'll tell
you right now, I'm gonna tell me, Hey, you've got
a chance to author the greatest opening night story in
the history of the support. Right now, nobody cares that.
(03:19):
Are you know that the lead Nations leading score broke
his ankle or all the injuries or things that we
walked into, or academic probation. Nobody cares about that. They
just hey, we I took over a team a little
bit late in the cycle and we had a rough year,
and a lot of people like to dog pylon because
I guess that brings them joy. Good for them, But
(03:41):
for me, I learned a lot. And you know, I,
like any basketball coach, will honestly tell you, we don't
really know what we have just yet. I think we
could be prett damn good, but it's gonna take a
minute because guys are still figuring out the level. But
I do know that if we win this game, it's
(04:02):
all anybody's can talk about, right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm really happy for you, Doug. I'm very very happy
for you. This is awesome. You know, behind the scenes,
we tried to get the show there didn't quite work
out logistically. I was able to experience your first game
last year, a year ago, and still water would love
to be in warrance today. But I do have a question.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yep, there's a question.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The niece an answer, and the answer is if only
there was someone with the authority and the wisdom to
give us that answer.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So, Doug, you have a really different roster than a
one that took the court last year. Could you give
me a couple of names that we should look for
tonight as we watch the Phoenix try to do the
impossible overcome a thirty point underdog difference against Kansas tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Look, there's some names that people are going to talk about.
Remel Bethea's a name people are going to talk about.
He's twenty nine, he's a sophomore, he was in the Navy,
he didn't play basketball growing up. I have no idea
how he's going to react to tonight. I mean, like
Legit has probably never played in front of more than
a couple of hundred people, and now he's going to
go against Florrie Badunga, who is an absolute freak of
(05:17):
an athlete, who's a bigger, stronger, younger version of what
he does dunk block shots role and I loved. So
I'm excited for Romel to experience this, to experience it.
We have Lebron Thomas. Yes, that's right, I have a
player named Lebron on my team. There's a lot of
irony to it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I know me.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, he was a first team Junior College All American
point guard, and it'll be a lot it'll be a
challenge for him. Right this is a higher level, very different,
But I'm really excited to see what he does because
he's not perfect player, but he's a really competitive kid
who's won a ton of games at junior college, and
I'm excited to see how he competes. So those would
(05:59):
be the first two in and Marcus Hall, who's my
best returning player, and you know, last year is one
of those while we're losing, you're trying to fill your
kids full of confidence to make them believe, hey, it's
not them, it's you, and you'll be You'll put a
better team around him next year. Marcus Hall is gonna
have a great year and he is an awesome human
(06:20):
being to to coach in his career. So those would
be the three first names. Ramel Bethea who's six' nine
with a seven to four, Wingspan Lebron thomas who's six
three and ninety five, pounds and he's the opposite Of
lebron in that he's right handed in real life and
left handed as a basketball player Was lebron's you, know the,
obvious the left hand in real life and right handed basketball.
(06:42):
Player and Then Marcus hall who's From, Schofield. Wisconsin there you, go.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Hey Coach Sam kinsley here from The Davenport, Press Davenport
Free Times. Press so just listen ten ten minutes into the.
Game first, Half all, RIGHT i should say first half
of the first, half maybe first half of the, game
first twenty. Minutes are are you like looking at a
department of your team, rebounding, scoring you, know three point
(07:08):
shooting that you're maybe worried, About like what do you
want to? See you're, like there's some department that you're like,
this this could be a soft spot for, us a week.
Spot we need to test it out against these very
Talented Kansas.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Jayhawks, WELL i, mean look last, year obviously rebounding was
a huge issue with, us and just overall. Toughness we
felt like we'd get them there and then we get
pushed around and fall apart some in the second. Half so, rebounding, defense,
toughness and they're. Young they Have Darren peterson who's gonna
be the number one overall, pick and he's an incredible. Shooter.
(07:39):
Scorer the rest of their young ones haven't made shots
yet in their exhibition. GAMES i think they're a better
shooting team than the. Numbers usually it takes guys a
couple of games to settle. Down so we want to.
See what you want to see is are you trying
to do what we've been coaching you on? Doing and
will you compete against, bigger more athletic guys in a hostile.
(08:02):
Environment that's, It that's really. It are you gonna try
and do what we? Want or you can try and
do your own? Thing and then are you gonna compete
because you're gonna get pushed, around you're gonna get a
non foul cal you're gonna make a. Mistake are you
gonna compete or are you gonna sulkan pout or or
get kind of intimidated by the? Atmosphere one thing here
before we get to. MONTHS i know you have a.
QUESTION i do want to be critical of essentially every
(08:26):
paper or online site who has done an article on this.
Game and this is you The Kansas City, star and
there's other there's Other topeka newspapers and. Whatever no one has.
Call all they do is aggregate quotes from like media
day or some other. Article is it that hard to
(08:46):
ask to come to shoot around and ask a question
or call me and ask a. Question it's. Crazy it's
not about me or About Green bay or our. Story
but we're getting ready to Play kansas And bill self
And Darren. Peterson you want to get a quote from
the opposing coach who can give you a pretty good.
Quote but, NO i guess again To Jay stew's, lament
this is media in twenty twenty five where people want
(09:09):
to just aggregate a quote and use it for their own.
Story you, know it's like Coach prime, SAYS i ain't
hard to. Find what do you got?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
There?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Months? All?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Right in your second, year is there some different approach
that you are going to take you yourself as a,
coach something that maybe you did last year that this
year you want to approach it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Differently, yes we. Do we commit to defensive vitamins every,
day defense and rebounding every. Day, okay, weird that is
not what happened last year is not going to happen
on my, watch which is we JUST i did not
think we were nearly as good, defensively and we played
people more based upon trying to find mismatches than playing
(09:48):
who are who? Are what's the best defensive? Lineup we
have start there every. Game you, know it's like what
what you do is you do like a self, audit,
right you go back through things and WHEN i went,
back what loses you? Games it doesn't matter if you
play fast or. Slow it doesn't matter what offense you,
run what defense you run is, okay is who wins
(10:09):
the turnover, battle who wins the rebounding? Battle and then
it's after that it's quality of shot and can you
defend three point? Line so those are the things that
we focused, on and then the rest we can kind
of build. Out so, yeah the approach is very very
To my staff is. DIFFERENT i have three new assistant,
COACHES i have ten new. Players there's a different kind of.
(10:31):
Energy it's a different sort of guy where they're older
and they're a little bit more, stubborn a little bit slower,
learner but tougher and a little bit. Withered So i'm
interested to see how much the approach helps. Us and
then the last part month Says i'm a super competitive.
Guy you get into games and you're, like, well it's
just you can win every. Game you do have to
(10:53):
keep in, mind you have to continue to develop players
playing the long, game you, know the games that really.
Matter we play three league games In december and the
rest start After january, First so those are the games
that we need to build up. For and there's some
of our players that aren't gonna be great, tonight but
we think can be really helpful once we get.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
THERE i don't know anything about college, basketball BUT i
THINK i could tell you a fact about. Tonight those
Five kansas players that take the court to begin the
game are all self.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Starters hey, Good, oh you know what he just did?
There he did. Alliteration that's that's one of his favorite.
Things let's get to love and? Hate shall? We what
we love from the? Weekend what we hate from the?
Weekend let's, Go, GOD i.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Love you and what did you?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Hate meet these?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Player Hay is.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Love love love love, love love hate hate hate hate,
Hate Jay stu start us. Off what'd you love from the?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Weekend this is the best part about your favorite baseball
team winning is that your, offspring your your child is
a much bigger fan than. Mine so for those listeners
who don't, KNOW i have a fully grown adult child
Named jacob AND i have never met a Bigger dodger,
fan so on My instagram right. NOW i just posted
(12:14):
it At Jason Stewart sports the happiest part of my.
Weekend WHAT i loved most was sharing in the, joy the,
emotion and the tears with my son as The dodgers
brought home another. Championship Because jacob is like an actual normal.
Fan he's not like. Me he's not, negative LIKE i
(12:35):
am mfing this team for seven, games And jacob's, like
why you gotta be so? Negative why can't we? Win
and you, know he's just one of those. Fans so
when they actually, win it's just, pure unadulterated emotion and.
Elation by, far the biggest happiest part of my. Weekend
AND i loved. HIM i love, HIM i love, YOU
(12:56):
i love all of our, listeners AND i love The.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Dodgers months months of, WEEKEND i Knew jason would definitely
take The dodgers, winning and OBVIOUSLY i love.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
That of COURSE i. Did it was such a great.
Series we've talked about, that But i'm not gonna. LIE
i also really love That Kawhi leonard hit a game
winner On friday night against The. Pelicans he has another game.
Winner it's just like it's unfair that some players who
are great don't get. Those and Here's Kawhi leonard just
constantly hitting game. Winners AND i know he's injured half the,
(13:30):
time And i'm a very Emotional clippers, fan but at
least he gives me these little highs throughout the season
that keep me.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Afloat Uh, So i'm so.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Glad AND i also dressed up As Philly, karen AND
i THINK i did a great job AND i love.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
THAT i saw. It it was really.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Good thank you so, Much.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Thank you so, Much Philly En.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Philly, Well i'm taking a bit of sloppy seconds. Here
Maybe i'm just co signing on What jason was talking,
about endorsing what he was talking, about because as a
transplant me coming here From iowa To Los angeles and
just twenty, FIFTEEN i got to listen to a little
bit Of Vin scully in his last year before here ret.
Hired i've been to Playoff i've been to a playoff
(14:08):
game At Dodgers stadium when that they lost, unfortunately And
i've been to regular season games At Dodger. STADIUM i
can tell you this Much dodger baseball is the real.
Deal the fans are the real. Deal and if you're
someone who moves out, here you become absorbed by The.
Dodgers it is easy to be A dodgers, fan especially
SINCE i moved. Here they've been WINNING Nl west titles
(14:28):
since what twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Fourteen that's the second time you've said. That do you
think they are winning because you moved. HERE i think
the ownership, change you, know catapulted them into contender. Status
MAYBE i had something to do with, It probably, Not but,
LISTEN i moved here at a great time When Dodger
baseball has never been, hotter and it's IT'S i grew
up A phillies fan In, iowa and then you, know
(14:51):
people love The cubs The cardinals In. Iowa but there's
something about being you're From Los angeles and you're A dodgers.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Fan it's so it's so. Pure and, again it's easy
to be A dodgers fan because they win a. Lot
so that being, SAID i think that this second, one
LIKE i said in the first, segment in the first,
segment this second one of the back to back is
sweeter because of how much of a struggle it was
the battle against The Blue, jays who were ready for the.
Fight i'll take, listen it's. Okay i'm gonna endorse What jason.
(15:16):
Said this was an incredible sports. Weekend this was a
lot Of dodger fans thought this series was, lost but
also a lot of them kept the, hope kept the,
faith and it paid. Off they won in seven in
one most Epic world series of all.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Time i'm Again i'm okay SAYING i loved, it AND
i loved every minute of. It and the coolest part,
is you, know to those of us who, remembers was
it city, slickers you know where where they talked about
baseball and what it means to. You my son doesn't
(15:51):
play baseball, anymore but from the time he was probably
three or four years, old we played catch five days
in a, week sometimes seven days in a, week and
multiple times in a. DAY i coached, him you, know
growing up in. Baseball he's a little left handed. Pitcher
(16:12):
and so When i'm watching the game and we start
texting back and forth about the, game and he didn't.
Go it was like A saturday, night his buddies are
going out and he's just, LIKE i, go what are you?
Doing who you with by myself That i'm watching this.
Game it's. Awesome so we're texting back and forth all
(16:34):
this funny, stuff AND i Just i'm thankful for, baseball.
Man it's so great and it reinvigorated all the memories
the eighty Eight World. Series you know Where gibson hit
the home. RUN i went To game. TWO i took
my son The game one when they lost to The
Red sox in The World. SERIES i remember THE Covid World,
series WHICH i actually, liked AND i liked because everybody
(16:57):
we were still everybody's still, home you, know AND i
remember you a trick or treating In Newport beach and
everybody's got The dodger game on during The World. Series
just all the good memories and then you get you
get rewarded for the time put in with an incredible
finish to an incredible. Series that's WHY i love for the.
Weekend all, right let's get to what we hated for the.
(17:18):
WEEKEND a resident hater Is Jason.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Stewart what do you, Got, jay same, Topic dodgers Game
game six and. SEVEN i sent out a tweet over
the weekend that actually got some. Traction it's still in the.
Algorithm i'm still getting reaction to, it a lot of.
Engagement and you, know On, Twitter, doug the normal thing
is you put something out, there unless You're. Monzi if
you're an attractive, female it's a different. Experience but if
(17:41):
you're just, me a fifty two year old white, man
you throw out, something half the people call you fat and,
ugly and the other half actually agree with what you.
Say this is like ninety five. Percent if there is
like a thousand comments under my, tweet ninety five percent
of agree with. This why are they doing in game?
(18:02):
Interviews rosenthal And verducci were embarrassing. Themselves they have no.
Awareness first of, all they can't read the. Room they're
compelled to do these canned in question interviews and the
game is going on in the background while it's. Happening,
literally there were things in important games going, on and the,
Manager John schneider actually apologized To Ken rosenthal for not
(18:25):
being able to do the interview because he had to
do his freaking. Job get rid of the in game
interviews in important, games save them for The All star
games or regular season, games but Not game six and
seven of The World. SERIES i hated.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That motts hate for the. WEEKEND i one agree With.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
JASON i hate, that AND i even hated during the regular.
Season but, ANYWAY i really hated AND i know you're
going to talk about it a little bit, More, coach
BUT i hated That Jayden daniels got injured last night
because it put me in my own predicament of. Thoughts
HERE i am, saying, like, No Steph curry's got to
play every minute of every game because he is the
star of the. SHOW i need him out. There and
(19:07):
SO i know The commanders were not in the. Game
even though we have seen The broncos score what thirty
one thirty three points to come back and beat The.
Giants we saw what The bills did against The, ravens
so we know the scoring can. Happen BUT i felt
myself in a predicament BECAUSE i was, like, No Jaden
daniels should be out. There, oh but should he be
out there because, like the game is so far away
and he's their, star he's their. Future, no but they're at.
(19:27):
Home the fans paid to See Jenden, daniels and THAT i.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
HATE i hate.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
THAT i CAN'T i can't decide how what the right
answer is for, myself like HOW i feel about? It
SO i hate That Jayden daniels got. HURT i hate
it for the, commanders but more so of like should
he have been out?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
There? Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Right, NO i don't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
KNOW i hate.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That doug Stug.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Gottlieb Show fox what's ready to sam me hate in the.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Weekend, well first of, All, doug hold on a, Second,
DOUG a couple of things happened last. Night you're a
you're a, coach so you have a unique perspective on.
This did Dan quinn make the right? Call and how
many times did you watch the elbow dislocate?
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Twice?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Uh thirty? Times Because i'm a sicko like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That that's where zero ZERO i did you see it live?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Happen?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
No, Well, jason but oh oh we all kind of saw. Him,
WELL i guess the replay would been the most clear.
Thing soon as somebody, says, OOH i just look, away.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It Was danklin. Made he made the wrong. Decision gotta get,
HIM i, mean gotta get him out of. There AND
i get you're probably, like, hey let's just end it
on a good. Note let's get a good, drive let's
get him going, right, Right but he's coming off an
injury and what's what's what's the win and it's a
freak thing gets his elbow and on his knee whatever,
Like but, no it's. NOT i, mean you know we Played.
(20:40):
Friday you, Know friday is a game we Played. BUFFALO i,
Again i'm like last YEAR i Left anthony roy and
late in some of these games to be, competitive and
he had helped him leave the country in. Scoring again,
TONIGHT i don't know WHAT I i don't know where
all side on WHO i play WHEN i play him?
Late you, know if we're up, thirty you, know because
that could that could. Happen we could be. Up that
was sarcass and by the, way it could be up thirty.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Up, yeah it's a blowout that you're winning.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
In what do you?
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Do that's a Good your whole team is gonna turn
Into Miguel.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rojas, yes, Okay sammy Wich hay from the.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Weekend, Quick i'll be very quick when it gets dark
by five pm because of daylight saving, time and then
and then it's gonna get even darker even, earlier for
like the next six. Weeks it'll be dark at four
forty five by next, week which is just weird because
at six thirty, Pm i'm like completely out of, it
And i'm, like SHOULD i eat? Dinner SHOULD i go to?
BED i don't know what to. DO i know it's
forgiving us more h daylight hours in the, morning so it's,
(21:36):
fine but it sucks in the afternoon when it's dark
by four forty.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
FIVE i hate that My. Chargers everybody gets.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Hurt not the way The chargers.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Do why? What what? Happened was it the move to
From San diego To la that caused the cosmic balance
of karma to be thrown? Out?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Why? Oh and then you had the performance coach who
told everybody he acted like he had he had the
secret to health in THE.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Nfl the left and the right, ankle the left and
the right. Shoulder he's, like we're gonna focus on both of.
Those i'm, glad glad you're. Not you're not gonna ignore
the right shoulder over the.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
List and for people who don't know what we're talking,
about The chargers have a performance. Coach he came With
Jim harbaugh From, michigan and he arrogantly made it out
like he knew why The chargers have always had injuries
and he had the cure to. Cancer i'm gonna fix.
It and what is? It what has? Happened, WELL i
mean we Had herbert get hurt last, year the whole
offensive line out this, year every running back has gotten.
(22:34):
Hurt like you name. It, YEAH i mean pride comes
before the. FALL i hate. It that is. Love and, Hey.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Live it's The Doug Gottlieb. Show he Ron Fox Sports,
radio and we are are so pleased to be joined
by our good Friend Tom, telesco FORMER gm of The
chargers and last year with The, raiders and he joins
us for his weekly visit here on the. Show, actually
let me start with The. Chargers god is the organization?
(23:15):
CURSED i, mean more injuries to that offensive. Line Joe
alt now Heard pipkins heard like you name it their?
Herd what what's that? Like because you've actually been this
is a situation you've been. In you've had Good charger
teams that just get, destroyed especially with offensive line. Injuries
(23:35):
what's that?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Like, well it's not a comforting. FEELING i can tell you,
that especially because of the position that if it was
a center or, guard you can usually mask those injuries
a little. Bit there's this a larger pool of players
either on the street or you could possibly trade or
just bump up from your practice. Squad but when you
talk about offensive, tackles there's just so few available as
(23:58):
they try and make adjustments right. NOW i, mean you
can look at the trade, market but you, know good
luck trying to find a starting left their right tackle
at this point of the season that someone would actually
give you who can. Play that's the biggest. THING a
lot of names you see up there for possible, trades
there's a reason why their names out there because they
can't play or help them team in, with so they're
gonna have to move from players. Around, look this is
(24:18):
the GM's job and the coaching staff's job to. Adjust
it happens at different. Positions offensive line is one of
the harder ones to. Handle but as you saw, Yesterday
Justin herbert just put him on his back and it
was really a sloppy game by both. Teams but these
are the type of games that you, Know Jim harby
just doesn't lose these type of. Games you, know there
could have been a trap. Game they're going To. Tennessee
(24:38):
tennessee had a ton of injuries coming. In they're not
a very good football, team and it wasn't, clean but
they got the game with the. Win now they're have
to figure out a little bit of a reshuffle on
the offensive. Line but something they've been dealing with the whole.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Year help me out on. Something would you explain The
Green Bay packers to?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Me, well if you look at the glass half, full
there are five than two essentially right. Now so all
is not, lost but there's just something that's not clicking right.
Now so yesterday it was just just way too many.
MISTAKES i, mean they're getting the red zones five times
in one. Touchdown it's hard to win that win and
(25:15):
you got, turnovers you have some. Sacks but they have talent,
there they have the coaching to withstand. This but, yeah
it's just they're going through a really tough time right.
Now so but they have to kind of get. Back
Jordan love can, play he just looks a little bit.
Off the offensive line has been very strong for them
in the last couple of, years but they're just not
(25:36):
playing as one right. Now that's WHERE i think we
got to look at what The packers right now is
just a protection up, front keep things, clean try and
get the running game going a bit. More but there's
still plenty of time when the season they kind of
get things figured. Out they're still five and.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Two Yeah, S doug gotlib show here On Fox Sports.
Radio why Was Jane daniels in the game when they're
getting blown out?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Late i'm sure that's the first question that was. Asked
when when Coach quinn came off the. Field, YEAH i
mean that's six minutes to, go the game's out of,
hand he's coming off with. Injury i'm sure was talked
about over the headsets at some point before the drive.
Started you, know they decide to keep him. In it's
just really. Unfortunate you, know he's had a number of
(26:19):
injuries this, year and you know this was the. One
he didn't have very many holes coming out of, college
but you know one of them, was you, know the
body type plus the play. STYLE i, mean if you
remember remember in, college he took a lot of hits
and that's just a style of. Play but those start
to add up after a. While and then you get
to this level and the guys are bigger and, faster
and then you throw a little bit of bad luck in,
(26:41):
there and you, know this is where it. Is but
it's just really unfortunate to. See but, Yeah i'm sure
going back either probably, thinking, yeah we probably should have removed.
Them i'm, sure But i'm Sure quinn was, saying, look
let's let's get a score. Here he didn't play much
in the last couple. Weeks let's get him one series
and we'll get him. Out but this is what, happened
and it's just really. Unfortunate now the whole team has
(27:03):
just been hit by, injuries a ton of starters other than,
him and this has just been a really rough year for.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Them, okay also in a rough year for The. Bengals
they've had a lot of. Injuries but, there you, know
their defense once again can't stop. Anybody i'm not GONNA
i got my own comments on this, thing which we
have in the. PODCAST i want to get your. Thoughts
Chase brown is running back for The, bengals who had
thirty seven yards rushing the. Football by the, way he
(27:29):
did have eight catches for seventy five, yards and you,
know he called out the. Defense you, know you got
to get a. Stop we gotta get a. Stop we
gotta play complimentary. Football just get a stop so we
can go to victory. Formation when you're the general manager
and you hear your running back say, that what goes
through your mind?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
First that he's just so. FRUSTRATED i don't Know Chase brown,
personally but we did a lot of work on him
when he was in. College he's a great kid and
he's a, leader so he just must have been totally
frustrated and he probably spoke out a. Turn this is
one of those where you'd probably bring the player in
as A gm to sit and down and talk to.
HIM i WISH i could hear the whole. Interview there's,
(28:07):
always as you, know there's always contacts. INVOLVED i know
how you feel about, it BECAUSE i just heard the
end of your podcast and, uh, yeah you're pretty strong about,
it WHICH i, get but, YEAH i mean, Oftense, well that's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
What, Tommy that's WHAT i would. Say that's WHAT i
would say if we're in front of the, Team that's
WHAT i would. Say behind closed, doors, okay in front of,
it in front of, EVERYBODY i would, say what you're saying,
HEY i know he's, frustrated you, know is probably taking
a lot of context whatever you saw sell, it but
behind closed, doors LIKE i don't know regardless of if
you're you can be right if they said that in
(28:39):
our in my, business and you can be, right but
you can be out of a, job like he may be,
right but you don't say.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Hey, now and he'll have to get, up be from
of the team and probably apologize for what he said
because it is still a. Team but to, me the
bigger thing Is Joe flacco is. AMAZING i, mean forty years,
old ac joint issue with, this with this throwing, shoulder
a throws for four to seventy four touchdowns behind an
offensive line that has struggled to block The joe. Burrow
(29:05):
so that's Been that's the huge. Story and then, defensively
like they had a huge problem defensively last. Year they
made a change of defensive coordinator that they Removed Lou
Andmo lou And romo's outstanding and he's showing that with The.
Colts we always had a hard time playing Against. Lou
this is not a scheme. Issue this is a talent
issue on that side of the. Ball on. Defense they
(29:26):
do have some starting caliber players on, defense but there
are no playmakers other Than hendrickson who's now. Out there's
just no impact at. ALL i don't know what happened
To Logan. Wilson Logan wilson is an excellent middle. LINEBACKER
i don't know if he just hasn't played well this.
YEAR i don't know if there's anything else going. On
he was a leader on that. Defense so, yeah like
they can't get a, Stop but at some point the
(29:46):
teams don't have to come together the head, coach the
player and THE gm whoever it is at this point
for The, bengals and discuss it and get get on
the right, page because you can't have that in the
locker room post, Games.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No you. Cannot Doug gottlieb show here On Fox Warts.
Radio Tom telesco is our. Guest of, Course tom was
former gentle manager eleven years with The, chargers last year
with The Las Vegas. Raiders, again we know The bengals
defense isn't particularly, good but is it fair to say
That Cayleb williams is getting?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Better it's so funny if The bears, win he's improving
and he's arrived if The bears, lose he's addressing in the.
Bus it's probably somewhere in the. Middle he's making small,
improvements but his style is a. STYLE i, MEAN i
don't think he's ever going to be a timing and
anticipation pocket. Passer you do see a couple throughout the,
game but in the end he's an off scheduled magician
(30:40):
and you have to lean into. It but the best
thing WHAT i saw The bears have a definite identity
right now That Ben johnson hasn't put it on, them
and this their running. Game they're in for two hundred
eighty three yards yesterday and they've been running the ball
really well this. Year that's completely change the identity of
the football. Team obviously helped Out Caleb. Williams so that
was my takeaway from that. Game And i'm just super
(31:01):
impressed By Ben jackson what he's done with the. Offense
you're gonna have to lean into How kala, plays but
they're wearing the ball strong right. Now the offensive link's
playing very well and that had been a huge hole
for them in prior.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Years be sure to catch the live edition Of The
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
Stut Gottlieb Show here On Fox Sports, Radio Tom telesco
is in fact our, guest explain to me The Detroit
lions and what's going on with.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Them that's. TOUGH i, know the one, thing and there's
there's always a lot of little things like yesterday's. Game
they just didn't play. Well a ton of. Penalties you
gave up a block. KICK i think they gave up
a ton of. Sacks so yesterday it just wasn't a clean.
Game the issue for them hasn't always been so much the.
(31:55):
Offense yet issue right now is. Defense and this has
been the corner position the last couple of. Years last year,
Injury this year did the, injury and just the talent.
Level they've hit on more top picks than most, teams
But terry And arnold is just not paying dividends yet
a corner and it's hard to line up in this
league if you can't, cover and that's just a bit
a big. Hole, again it's early enough in the. Season
(32:17):
they're going to be. Fine they're five and, three their
offense is still very, good they're well, coached and they're,
physical but yesterday it was just way too, much way
too many. Mistakes it just they're rarely to the, lines
not play a clean, game and, yes it wasn't a clean.
Game BUT i THINK i know it's hard for us on.
Now i'm like, You i'm part of the. Media you
have to look at the big body of, work not
just kind of react off yesterday's. Game their body work
(32:40):
is still pretty, clean but yesterday was not a great
game for.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Them Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports. Radio Tom
telesco is our. Guest what did The bills do to
Frustrate Pat mahomes throughout the FOOTBALL.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I thought they did a great. Job and this is
what in the off, season The bills made a concerted
effort to improve, defense and you could see just with
the pass rush. Yesterday Joey bosa was. Outstanding Greg grusseau
without saying both of those guys were. Relentless they consistently
won their one on ones against The chiefs. Tackles the
chief tackles are not, strong but those guys really bottled
(33:15):
up their rush and then The bill's having a chance
to play more man coverage against The chiefs that's. Helpful
Max harrison is a, Rookie he's a first round draft.
Pick he's got out standing speed and man. Coverabilities they
dropped him in the first round for a, reason probably
with the with the focus on how do we play
against The, chiefs and he fit well and he can
(33:35):
cover The chiefs receivers with the speed because as we
know With, mahomes when he starts scrambling and you want
to play zone against, them the more he, moves the
more the zones starts to, distort and nobody has a
better vision to the shoot with the. Ball he's he's
like a Young Doug gottlieb as a point. Guard you,
know he just he moves his, zone spinds open. Men
but if you play a man, coverage it's a little,
stickier a little harder to find. Guys so The bills
(33:57):
played a little bit more man, coverage played it, well
and then the pass which was really good from the
outside and to keep them in the. Pocket LIKE i,
Said joey played a great. Game Greg russo was just
relentless with this, chase AND i showed up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
What. Happened The colts were kind of humming along there
up early and then The steelers unbelievable second quarter that
kind of put put The colts on their heels. AGAIN
i keep asking the, question which which is the Real? Colts?
Right but they. Did they had the ball more than
The steelers that they had, longer but six. Turnovers how
(34:32):
to explained six turnovers to a team that have played
in such clean football?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Today, yeah you, know it's funny because going into the
SEASON i thought The steelers are the best defense in
the league and they had not played anything like. It
but like good Like tomlin, teams they're starting to, improve
trying to figure some things. Out they traded For Kyle
duger From New. England Kyle dugger played a ton of
snaps at safety in this past. Game they Moved Jalen
ramsey to safety out of the nickel, spot AND i
(34:59):
always felt later In jalen's, career which is where we
are right, now he'd be an outstanding, safety and that's
where they played. Him he played very well. Yesterday they
played more, zone more zone covers With Joey porter because
that fits his. Style he's not really a man. Cover
he's not really a quick, twitch king of direction. Corner
so they started to make some tweaks on. Defense they
(35:20):
always have the pass, rush but the better coverage and
the back end allows the pass rush and extra millisecond
to get. There And Daniel jones always that hole With
Daniel jones is those key big. Errors it's the, sacks
that stack crumbles and the. Interceptions And steelers got after it.
Yesterday AND i think once in the second, half once
once the, game once the score got a certain, point
(35:41):
all of a, Sudden Joathan taylor's run game is out
the window and now a straight dropped back pass and
The colts have a very good offensive. LINE i think
this is a one, off but it was a, tough
tough run For Daniel jones there in the second. Half
but this is a type of DEFENSE i think The
steelers can play and they will play moving, forward as
it took them about half the year to kind of
figure out what's the best way to approach. It BUT
i like what they did. Yesterday tell me are the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Best wish us some. Luck we got The jayhawks and
the fog literally later on, tonight and Then i'm headed
to your hometown On friday and take on The bulls Of.
Buffalo The bulls.
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Doug Gottlieb
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