November 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the Dodgers winning the World Series as he and the crew go over the details of one of the most dramatic series the sports has ever delivered. Doug welcomes former big league All-Star Matt Holliday onto the show to talk about the World Series. Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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having a great day The Doug Gottlieb Show here on
a Monday. Yeah, we're gonna talk about Seattle and Jane
Daniels Distill hitting his elbow in a game that was
gone shades of RG three what happened last night. But
I'm going to politely disagree with my radio producer in
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terms of what we lead with. I'm sorry, I know
it's a Monday. It happened Saturday night, but that was
everything about Saturday night was amazing. What an unbelievable World
Series game. Unbelievable, unbelievable World Series game. It gave you
so much. It gave you so much. Ninth inning home
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run from a defensive replacement who hadn't hit won in
like over a month. Bottom of the ninth inning, bases
loaded and Will Smith his toe comes off and then
goes right back down on the on home plate. And
this after John Smoltz epic foreshadowing talking about how hard
it is to find home plate when you're sliding, and
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then Pahz with a catch where he runs over k
Hernandez to save the game. And then the eleventh inning,
Will Smith, who I didn't even know, like again forgive me.
I love baseball. I do watch playoff baseball every year.
Six World Series, six World Series rings in a row
for one guy. And then the close out in the
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bottom of the eleventh was equally spectacular with uh with
with the is equally impressive, Okay with the double play
on the broken bat and it's Mookie Betts, who he
didn't hit well all series, but he's not a shortstop.
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Converted shortstop makes a great play, steps on the bag,
avoids hitting the runner as he throws at the first
and a double play. What a game and Jason and
Jason Seer wants me to start with talking about the
Seahawks beat and the Commanders stop at Jason, Wow, it
is your team, It is your victory lab. When you
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think now about Saturday night, what should America know about?
What Fox Sports Radio's biggest Dodger fan but also critical
analyst thinks of Saturday.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Night about the game Game seven. It gave us everything
we wanted and you summed it up really nicely, I thought.
I think Game three still is going to hold a
special place in my heart. Game three was one of
the best experiences I've ever had. I went into the
weekend assuming that the Boujays were going to get to
Yamamoto Ons on Friday night and close out the series,
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and I was proven wrong, thankfully. H Yamamoto coming back
on zero day's rest to close out a World Series
after having won two World Series games over the pre
us eight days. I don't know how you could tell
me that there has been a better performance, at the
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very least by a pitcher in the postseason. I don't
think enough praise could be given to Yama Moto for that.
You could talk about Miguel Rojas in the last couple
of games. You could be critical of Dave Roberts for
sticking with pa Has too long in the first five games.
But Yama Moto basically Dave Roberts telling the entire baseball
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world that he had zero faith in his relievers. And
I'm talking about your like situational relievers that craped the
bed the entire season and they didn't do anything to
address it. Going into the postseason. Dave Roberts kept throwing
US starters and starters after another in Game seven. I've
never seen anything like it. You're right, all those things
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that you touched on.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought he managed his ass off. I just do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think we give a little too much credit. It's like,
when things work out, he's an exceptional manager. I mean,
but like all work out, it'll work out.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Why was Pat Heston's centerfield? Why would you.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He put pauson center field because they needed someone with
a because what's his name, Tommy Edmund's got like a
wet paper, wet newspaper for an arm. So he put
passestant center because they needed a throw at home plate
to get the ti in or go ahead run.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was defensive replacement. Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And and why was why did they make the switch
at second base? Same thing right now? He ends up
getting I mean, you end up getting a home run.
But the two biggest plays of the game for the
Dodgers in the bottom of the ninth inning were made
by his two defensive replacements. Again, I get, I I
understand where judging results and that process. But again I
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and we're doing the same thing with pitchers, And and
I would tell you that, yes, I mean, don't we
all agree with the idea that first starting pitchers are
paid more money because they're generally better than relievers. The
only question is can they get their motor going in
short order? And so many guys have started or played
college baseball where they come out of the pen or whatever.
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But yeah, like, as a as a coach, when why
do I have to go to why do I have
to go to bullpen guys who aren't as good at
pitchers as my starters and the bullpen guys haven't shown
themselves to be up to the challenge. Yeah, again, I
thought it was. I thought it was. It was. Granted,
I am judging results, but I'm also trying to judge process,
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and I thought his process was really good.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And just to be clear, Rojas was a he wasn't
a defensive replacement. Rojas got the start in Game six
because paw Has couldn't hit and his Game five replacement
couldn't hit, so they move Edmund, who had been playing
a great second base all series. In fact, in Game three,
I think Tommy Edmund was like a defensive hero and
he put paw Has in just to mix it up
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a little bit. And the guy ge hit a home run.
And by the way, that's one of the the sub
stories of this. Yeah, I guess Miguel Rojas Uh. His
wife told him.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Was yes, yes, and she kept telling him you get
hit a home run and then before and he's like,
what are you talking about, Like, I haven't hit a
home run forever.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's he doesn't home runs.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I know. And it was a one hander on a slider. Amazing, Oh,
it was amazing. I'm as to tell you this, like again,
we could talk about the NFL and Jane Daniels is hurt.
We can talk about the Packers playing down the level
of competition that costs themselves a game. And yet you
have a perfectly good kicker, but then McManus comes back
and you give him the job, and then McManus suddenly struggles. Like,
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we go into all of those stuff and it's it's
all relatively interesting, but I mean, like, look, Game seven
was an epic game. Game three was an epic game,
and I would say that Game six was a pretty
epic game as well, especially considering the excitement and how
it ended. Is all this fair?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Jason mcguil Rojas was the hero of Game six with
just his glove.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Awon't okay?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But my point though, is, are you okay saying three
of those games, three of the seven or Alzheimer's yes?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh absolutely? Drama wise?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh yeah, so we watched a seven game series where
three of them were all timers. You had, in many
people's conversation, the greatest single game performance by a hitter,
that being show Hey, going back to game three, right,
and then you have Yamamoto, who I mean, like, look,
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it's very similar to Madison Bumgardner, right, mad Bum had
that and mad Bum was a little bit was he
had to hit back then, and he was actually good
with the bat as well. So we've seen some of
mad Bum we've never seen show hey, and again, I
would have to I don't have the depth of baseball
knowledge in terms of a series, but what we got
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was as good of a baseball series as you possibly
can get. Three all time games, including the last two
being absolute knock down Dragonmounts. Monci. You have a Dodgers podcast, Okay, Yeah,
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And Jason was convinced when it went back to Toronto
it was over in game six. Where were you in
terms of your level of belief that they could win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm definitely not on the same It was over mentality,
but I understood it because after the eighteenth inning game,
which I was at till the very end, it was
very uninspiring to see the Dodgers come out looking so flat,
while Toronto seemed unbothered by an eighteen inning game. Now,
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Toronto also did take out most of their players way
before the Dodgers in that eighteenth inning game. Vladimir Guerrero
Junior was the only one that played the whole thing,
and so they just seemed refreshed and we seemed flat.
So naturally I didn't like the feeling of going back
to Toronto down in two games when the excitement was
gonna be just probably like Game one in Toronto that
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they hadn't experienced. So I didn't like it. But I
wasn't like it's over. I was like, no, it's anything
can happen. And once the eighteenth thinning game happened, I
felt like everything went out the window, Like logic went
out the window. Anything you thought before this year he started,
it's gone. This is just when eighteen innings the plan,
they're now on plan F you know what I mean.
So I thought anything can still happen. And it wasn't
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like Vladimirica Railroad Junior was killing it against us the
way he killed the Yankees single handedly. There was hope,
and and we had Yamamoto and I just I had hope,
but it was it was it was hard. It was
hard after those two losses, after the eighteenth thinning game.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Uh, Sammy, you're like me, You're I'm I'm less than neutral, right.
The Dodgers are my son's favorite team. I am a
quasi Dodger fan angels are my team, but I was
definitely rooting for the Dodgers. You're more neutral.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I was ready for the Dodgers. Dogs.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We're all We're all watching texting on Saturday. Jason is
just He's just on one. Every you know, he's out
the announcers, the umpiring, everything. Jason's just on one. What
was your experience like watching Saturday Night?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean this, I think that some Dodger fans would
feel that this World Series compared to last year, is
even sweeter, just because it was more of a battle.
I know, last year made up for sort of like
the oh, we have to win, like a real one
in front of fans, you know, outside of twenty twenty.
This one felt like such a battle. Last year it
was so much hype for Yankees Dodgers, and it was
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a dud. It was over in five and this one
was It was like an all timer to go back
to back in that style, and I think Dodger fans
are gonna I mean, this is this is this as
sweet as it gets. So it was. It was fun
to watch. It was very stressful Friday and Saturday night.
The whole the whole series was stressful outside of the
couple of games where the Blue Jays kind of pulled
away and won convincingly. But I mean from after that
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eighteen inning game, I was like, this kind of feels
like like twenty eighteen, like it could go like ever,
like they just they wouldn't win another game after that.
But man, when they were down three to two in
the series, it did feel like it was over. I
was more with Jason and then just to watch them
when those two in Toronto was so could have started
on Rob Parker unbelievable. I mean, I've beenlieving in it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You can you can get it on Rob Parker there,
uh is what he is, Doug.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I've been living here for ten years. We'll go back
to Rob. I've been living here for ten years, and
I've gotten to see them win three World Series in
six years and get to see them play in one, two, three?
How many World Series since twenty seventeen? Five? Yep? Five?
So that's I mean, that's a pretty good run for
someone who moved here from Iowa to see them be
so good in baseball that have the Dodgers win this
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much has been incredb.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The Japanese players just wired differently. Man, they're so good.
I just I love Yamamoto's whole mentality. It reminded me
the World Baseball Classic that they won. Jay Stu, what
were you gonna say about Rob? So? Rob? When we
last joined Rob Parker, he was saying the series was over?
Is that what people are dragging him over?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
More specifically, the Dodgers are cooked, the Dodgers. Dodgers will
not be able to fight back that this game is
the series is over. And we were all interested to
see how he would react, if he would take back
his words, but no, he's been He still thinks that
Toronto very much gave it away, that this was a
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fortunate thing for the Dodgers to have happened to them.
And to that point, I'm going to disagree with Rob.
With Rob, you never know kind of where the BA
starts and where the seriousness begins. I have no idea
what game he's playing here with Dodger fans or not,
or if he's serious. But uh, but they were not cooked.
They showed fight and I'm proud of them.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah I would. I mean, I don't know where the
BS starts, but it's but the one, the one thing
that is consistent about Rob is I don't know anybody
he actually gives credit for winning games. You know, he's
called Tom Brady the luckiest of all time. He said
Bill Belichick's a phony. So I don't know who is
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responsible who actually gets credit for New England winning six
Super Bowls. Similarly, the Dodgers. Again, how many times do
you have to win before you actually get credit? So
I don't I can't concern myself with Rob in that
in the way that Dodger fans do. But I think
that people who give him attention, you're just doing him
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a favor because that's clearly the logic behind it, and
it works.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That guy that Caleb Joseph, who's the former Major league
catcher and TSN analyst who's just been getting killed by
Dodger fans and Keyky Hernandez elevated his his take this weekend,
so it got everyone more pissed off.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like, I will agree with this guy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He was the one who basically said that the Dodgers
were not the better team in this series. I would say,
if you go numbers next to numbers, the Blue Jays
were the better team in this series. The Dodgers just
made one more play than they did at the end.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right, Yet, can can Caleb and Rob kind of be
right in that? Like I felt that the Dodgers sort
of picked the blue Jays pockets, Like the blue Jays
had their chance and the Dodgers are just right there
to sort of I agree with that, I would.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Agree, but also like if you remember, like who is
who touched home play but was like a fraction.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Of second late Heiner Fileffa, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I mean why didn't he run through home play?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, there was that, they asked him that. And also
like his leadoff off the third base was not as
big as lead off as and.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's like, listen, they're based running cost him the end
of game six? Yeah yeah? And winning right yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And is that a case of like been there, Dodgers
have been there, done that, blue Jays are or maybe
maybe the ones coming in again again?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I I don't know. Me Again, it's a very logical statement,
but that does take away from the idea that they
were the better team. The better team does make those plays,
So I mean again, I I just let's let's we
don't need to get into being critical of people who
are critical or whatever. I just like I woke up
with a what I call a sports high, where I
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invested a lot of time into watching a supporting event
that I can't Honestly, I did get emotionally tied to
wanting the Dodgers to win, just because I'm I grow
so tired of everyone who doesn't ever visit Southern California
tell me how bad Southern California is when every time
I'm in Southern California, I'm like, I love it here,
Like it's awesome. What you know? I mean, yes, skid
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Row's bad. I don't live in skid Row, and nobody
I don't know does, right, That's like, okay, there's a
whole other, big city out there. But anyway, that's not
the point. The point is I woke up going, damn,
I just watched one of the best sporting events in
my life, and I got to watch two Friday night,
Like Friday was Halloween, right, and like, you know, you're
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sitting there and what is sports supposed to do? This
is a big thing. What is sports supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Transport you away? Yeah, take you away from reality?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Correct? Okay, So again, I'm not looking for anybody's sympathy.
I have a great life, great, but it's it's Halloween night,
and I got my dogs and I got a TV.
My neighborhood there's like one family with kids. I lived
three doors down outside that no one came by. You know.
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I got daughters in college, my sons. I don't have
anybody around for Halloween, like I love Halloween, and I
got I don't have any ability to go to a
Halloween party. I'm just sitting at home. So I'm like,
I'm gonna watch this game. And I got rewarded with
a great watch. And then it's Saturday night. Now I
got football, and I got the multiview and I'm watching
the SC game there win against Nebraska, and his whole
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day and we're prepping and we're leaving the next day
for Kansas, and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
lock in and just enjoy Game seven, and it's three
to one. I'm like, is this really how the baseball
season is gonna end? And then all of a sudden,
they put a couple together and it just becomes the
most incredible game, the most incredible ending with so many
twists and turns. You had the ground rule double in
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game six, which which definitely changed the ending of that one,
you have the bases loaded in the bottom of the
ninth and the infield being in and then the play
by Paez where he runs over key K and KEYK
is trying to do a Willie Mays catch because it
looked like you might have been a little out of
position he.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Was to catch that. No, you're not gonna catch that.
I don't know what he was thinking, but I mean,
the whole thing was so great.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And makes so many awesome plays throughout the series too.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I am convinced that Key K Hernandez does not play
regular season baseball anytime it's played. He only plays in
the playoffs for the Dodgers's and he's like in the
big plays. I don't even write like in the big plays.
I'm convinced of it. I just maybe this is a
message of gratitude, or it's congrats to Jay Stu, or
just it's what I love about sports? Is that again?
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For those probably five or six hours each night that
I'm watching baseball, I even watched the pregame show on Saturday.
I hate pregame shows and I used to be part
of pregame shows, especially that pregame show. It was terrible.
Terrible because they're just talking about stuff that again, it's
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like all prediction stuff, which is just a waste of time,
instead of having some of the best players in baseball
teach me about different guys. Teach me how Black Guarreau
is this incredible hitter that's been even better in the
playoffs in the regular season. Show me what they're doing
to show Hey, hotel anyway, I watched pregame show. I
loved every second of that game, every second. It was
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so good. So I'm not telling you that football is
not a more popular sport. I'm not telling you that
we don't have more things to get to. Tucker Craft
hearing his acl jayde and Daniels dislocating. All those things
are important, and we got plenty of time to talk
about football, but baseball. Take yourself about what a weekend
for the sport.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
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Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's Doug ot Leave Show Fox Sports Radio. I'll play
for you. A little bit later on the show, Dan
Quinn's answer to why Jane Daniels was in the game
when they're getting blown out in the fourth quarter. Matt
Holliday's going to join us in about a minute and
a half. First, so let me get you to Montcy
Bolanos for an update. Months it's the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's won a World series.
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He's so he's and and one one of the most
epic world series when he was with the Saint Louis
Cardinals and they beat the Texas Rangers. David Freese, the
hero of the MVP. So I guess I just want
to know. Matt Holliday joins us now on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. How would that series
it just concluded, compared to the one that you guys
won with the Cardinals over the Rangers.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Well, I think they certainly both go down as two
of the great world series of all time. Anytime you
go down to a Game seven, I think most of
the you know, the high intensity drama of Game six
will be remembered for the one we won as opposed
to all the drama that went down in Game seven.
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You know, this year so too legendary world series is.
But I think you know, obviously, when you're talking about
a Game seven and all the back and forth, and
then for a guy that pitched Game six to come
back and close out Game seven and two plus innings
certainly adds. You know, I think a legend that that
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maybe we haven't ever seen so great World series? Great
for baseball, you know, I think it's Uh, it's a
it's interesting because you can you can nitpick and look
at all the little things when it comes down to
a one run game and an extra inning, uh situation.
You know, you start talking about all the little things
that could have gone the other way that would allow
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the Blue Jays to win the World Series, and then
you know everything that you know the Dodgers did so uh,
it's it was. It was a fascinating series and and
a lot of a lot of a lot of little things.
Matt added up.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
A lot of little things. Okay, so let's get to
those little things. Let's get to those little things. H
Where do you be? Where do you begin? Because I
think the layman, the non baseball savant, I would consider
you a baseball savant. The non baseball savant wants to
pick apart, you know, bottom of the ninth inning, Uh,
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or even you go back to when and the Blue
Jays got doubled up. Let let's go to Game six
when the Blue Jays get doubled up on that short
uh that short pop up to left center. Was that
a base running error that ended Game six?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah? I mean yes. But I think the thing that
that I think maybe caught the base runner off guard
was how shallow Kik Hernandez was playing, which ironically almost
cost him the World Series if it wasn't for Pajes
running over and catching the ball over his head. You
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know they're at the end. I think as a base runner,
you checked the outfielders and you have to know where
they're playing. And me, you know, in watching the game
where I can't see the outfielders off the bat, I
thought the ball was down as well, and then here
comes you know, kyk to make the catch and then
you know the guy makes a great play to to
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pick and in between hop at second. But you know,
I think the thing with the base runner is is
you have to know where your outfielders are. And you know,
he didn't even have to die. He caught it running in.
So I I yes, I think that that was a
base running mistake. But you know key K was playing
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shut up. Maybe you know before the pitch, Uh, he
took a few steps in. I don't know exactly. You know,
i'd have to, you know, maybe try to see the
overhead if he if he was able to somehow maybe
maybe not even intentionally trick the runner by pre pre pitch,
you know, because you're taught at the base runner to
check the outfielders and then take your lead and and
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then you know, you you take your secondary and react
to the ball, and the ball, like I said, seemingly
was going to get down, takes one extra step and
it cost him. So yeah, I think overall you'd have
to say that that's a base running mistake. But you know,
in that situation, he was very very shallow.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, speaking
of second secondary lead, what do you make of what
happened bottom of the ninth inning. You got Connor at
what third base and he gets I mean misses by
milliseconds right and stepping on home. But should there have
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been a bigger lead, you know, bigger secondary lead, and
should he have run through the base instead of slidden
slid sliden slid slid into home.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think that, Yes, in hindsight,
he probably should have had a little better, bigger secondary lead.
Makes you wonder if the way the game, the winds
of the night before, maybe in the back of his mind,
or maybe in the back of the coach's mind. The
coaching third base is that you, hey, don't get too
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far off in case there's a you know, a line
drive towards third that would double you off. Yes, I
think he should have had a larger lead. It also
was a left handed hitter, which gives the catcher a
clearer path to try to pick off a runner at
third if you get too big of a lead or
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a secondary lead. But uh, it is interesting to think
about that even if it was one one foot bigger
on the on the secondary, would he have been safe.
Certainly would have made Rojas rush to throw more if
he if he'd have had a better jump, better read
better better secondary lead. But yeah, I mean, yeah, another
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one where you you go, golly, you know they could
have if he's one foot further off the base, they
win the World Series and you're celebrating in Toronto today
instead of l A. But yeah, that's baseball. There's just
so many little things that add up, but it certainly
makes me me saying that the night before could have
certainly had an impact on his secondary.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Tray. That's always
Matt Holiday's seven time All Star. He's joined us throughout
the baseball season. Good friend of the program, friend personally,
and just kind of looking back through what was just
an epic World Series with incredible Game six, incredible Game seven.
What you do for a living and for fun is
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swings in baseball. Explain to me how Rojas, who's not
a prodigious home run hitter, hits a one hands a
ball out of the park in the top of the
ninth inning with show Hey, it was a slider, right, Like,
how do you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I mean, I think that that was the pitch I
think he had held. I think that might have been
his only home run off of the right hand pitch
of the whole season. It's one of those things, Doug,
where I think I think with Showy on deck, Hoffman
was really just trying to throw a strike with the slider,
and sometimes when you when you kind of take a
(28:05):
little off where you're just trying to trying to make
sure that it's a strike. It looked like it backed
up towards the hitter, so it kind of spun in
closer to him, and he found the barrel and and
you know, he's a major league player, and and if
you find the barrel, and and sliders tend to carry
(28:28):
further than fastballs or for you know, breaking balls to
spin if you if you hit them properly and you know,
redirect the spin, they have more carry. So bad bad
breaking ball too close to a hitter that doesn't hit
home runs. The only pitch he probably could have hit
out right there is a is a breaking ball close
(28:51):
to him, and and kind of a perfect storm of
events where you know it backed up, he caught it
on the barrel, caught it out from run, hit it
to the perfect, perfect part of the park, and you know,
you got you got a tie game. So it was unlikely,
to say the least, but it looked like he aims
(29:12):
that slider a little bit. I think, you know, in hindsight, again,
we're talking about baseball, so you can always second guess,
but I think a fastball away to a hitter like
that is is always the safest pitch.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's easy with hindsight to sit back and go, hey,
Dave Roberts nailed it, using starters instead of relievers. They're
in the in the late extra innings. Obviously, Yamamoto in
the moment, did you think that was the right decision?
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, look, I'm always a little surprised when you bring
a guy back to pitch the day before. I mean,
he threw close to one hundred pitches the night before
and as and then you know, you bring him back
on zero day's rest. It's really, I think, kind of
ironic when you when you think about, you know, the
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way that the Dodgers leaned on their bullpen so much
last year, and then they almost solely leaned on their
starters this year. So it's like almost reverse of the
way that they won the World Series from this year
to last year was so heavily bullpen couldn't wait to
(30:23):
get their starters out of the game. This year, they
didn't want they want nothing to do with any of
their relievers, and they're you know, recycling starters, and you know,
putting in a guy that pitched the previous day, I
think is is quite ironic. But yeah, I mean I
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think at the time I was just a little surprised
that he was even available. I mean, typically when a
guy throws a hundred pitches the next day doesn't even
puts fleets on. And I know it's Game seven of
the World Series and all hands on deck is the
is the big tagline, but that typically doesn't include the
guy that's two one hundred pitches the night before. So
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I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And he was awesome, and he found it. I found
out a way to get out of it. Matt, your
sport was awesome this year, especially at the end. Man
did not let us down. Appreciate you joining us. Let's
talk soon. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yeah, good luck, and I I sorry I can't make
it up to Kansas. We got to k a couple
of kids here that I'm working with, but I'll be watching.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
These are excuses you got. You can fire that. You
go down to Guthrie, fire that sucker up and be
here an hour and a half. You get the work in.
Excuses are like, you know what, everybody's got one. They stink.
I'll talk to you everybuddy. Okay, that's Matt Holiday, fifteen
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Speaker 1 (32:26):
Mance what I Got?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Coach.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
We're gonna start the.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Week with big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
That's right, let's get into it, coach. So big deal,
little deal, no deal that the Eagles have traded for
now former Dolphins edge rusher linebacker Jalen Phillips. Eagles have
made a few a few moves ahead of this trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Uh, no doubt they got didn't they get your Jay?
Your Alexander? Over the weekend as well, super talented guy
who's always hurt. Obviously, the Dolphins fire sale has begun
and it probably won't end until the trade deadline, and
then it'll continue on in the off seasons that I
think they're gonna light a match and start over over there.
(33:09):
I think it's a big deal. I do, just because
there's something off with their chemistry and their way of
fixing it is let's go get just more really good
players and see if that works. I don't love it,
but again, it's at a position like edge rusher, where
it's not like necessarily a chemistry driven position, so it's
not as not as tough to see having some success
(33:30):
out of it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, Eagles definitely trying to beef up their defense for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Okay, coach, big.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Deal, little deal, non deal. I did not have this
on my bingo card that the Packers would lose to
the Panthers at home.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think it's a big deal. I just do. Just
this is this Packers group, you know, just you're so
into them, and you're like, man, they beat the Steelers
fourth quarter, they look like super Bowl champions. Then you know,
obviously you miss kicks and that's going to deflate you.
But got to score some points against the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
That's absolutely, absolutely no. I don't know what the Packers
are doing. I really thought they were gonna win their
division easily, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And on a day when the Lions lose at home.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Right like, you know, yes, yes, I team this year.
I could not believe my eyes.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It looked bad.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Speaking of what looked bad, the Bengals and they're tackling
and Bengals coach, big deal, little deal, no deal that
they gave up a fifty eight yard touchdown to tight
end Colston Loveland, rookie tight end with seventeen seconds left,
giving the Bears though forty seven to forty two win.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I could have tackled that guy.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I would have trumped them and they would have been like, oh,
that's penalty. Okay, well he didn't score.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Uh yeah, it's bad, big it's a big deal because
they had the worst defense in football last year. They
showed some improvement early and now they've progressed and it's
bad again.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Come on, come on, man, you job don't want to score.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You're about to win.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Unreal? Unreal, all right, coach, Come on man, come on man,
big deal.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
That box is reporting the twenty six million people watched
Game seven of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Gigantic deal.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Gigantic.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean, you can't can understand that that's a gigantic,
gigantic deal, huge, huge, really really really big deal because
you know, like again, you have the Dodgers West Coast,
and you'll get people that say they're ruining baseball. Ain't
get Toronto. You're like, well, they're in Canada. Nobody cares.
(35:38):
It's not Yankees and Red Sox. Nobody cares. Six million
people say otherwise.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right, And it was a built up, like you said,
it was such a great series, like it built up,
and you know, it's funny that people are like, oh,
they're ruining baseball because if I am correct, Toronto has
a top five payroll. So it's not like they weren't
spending either. They were willing to spend.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's just you know, this is forgive me if I
missed this. The twenty six million is counting Canada too, I.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Don't, no, I think that's the most.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's just okay, let's get the Canadian numbers in there
too and see what we got. Yeah, no, I think
a lot of that country is watching.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Of course, exactly either either.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Way, twenty six million is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah for sure, all.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Right, coach, let's move on here. A big deal, little deal,
no deal that Auburn fired head football coach who Freeze
after their loss to Kentucky this weekend where they scored
three pointsbo ten to three.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Uh. It's a big deal, but it's it's more of
a big deal that the SEC just they're gonna fire
anybody who's not ranked or not. I mean it's literally
fired coach and which which at the end of the
year creates these what should be I mean Auburn Alabama.
Even when Auburn is down and has a bad season,
at the end of the year, they they'll put up
a big fight. Now it's like half the guys arerom
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the portal, the coaches are gone, it's interim coach. It's
it's always a joke. So I it's a big deal,
but it's also really hurting the SEC overall as a
league that if your team has a down year you
fire your coach, coach, it makes him a disaster for
the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
M I couldn't agree more quickly here, coach, big deal,
little deal, no deal that the Reese's Cups was the
most popular candy given out a Halloween for a second
straight year.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I love Reese's Cups.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Rici's peanutbar cups. Yes, yeah, I mean I think it's
no big deal.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Though, because because it's obvious the well we also.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We did the favorite candies, and those guys forgot Teresa's
Peanut Butar cups and I nailed it. And Jay Stuo
is like, that was actually the first good thing you
said on radio years, So that part's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
And that's game time. Game This is game time on
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Speaker 1 (37:36):
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having a great day The Doug Gottlieb Show here on
a Monday. Yeah, we're gonna talk about Seattle and Jane
Daniels Distill hitting his elbow in a game that was
gone shades of RG three what happened last night. But
I'm going to politely disagree with my radio producer in
(01:09):
terms of what we lead with. I'm sorry, I know
it's a Monday. It happened Saturday night, but that was
everything about Saturday night was amazing. What an unbelievable World
Series game. Unbelievable, unbelievable World Series game. It gave you
so much. It gave you so much. Ninth inning home
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run from a defensive replacement who hadn't hit won in
like over a month. Bottom of the ninth inning, bases
loaded and Will Smith his toe comes off and then
goes right back down on the on home plate. And
this after John Smoltz epic foreshadowing talking about how hard
it is to find home plate when you're sliding, and
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then Pahz with a catch where he runs over k
Hernandez to save the game. And then the eleventh inning,
Will Smith, who I didn't even know, like again forgive me.
I love baseball. I do watch playoff baseball every year.
Six World Series, six World Series rings in a row
for one guy. And then the close out in the
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bottom of the eleventh was equally spectacular with uh with
with the is equally impressive, Okay with the double play
on the broken bat and it's Mookie Betts, who he
didn't hit well all series, but he's not a shortstop.
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Converted shortstop makes a great play, steps on the bag,
avoids hitting the runner as he throws at the first
and a double play. What a game and Jason and
Jason Seer wants me to start with talking about the
Seahawks beat and the Commanders stop at Jason, Wow, it
is your team, It is your victory lab. When you
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think now about Saturday night, what should America know about?
What Fox Sports Radio's biggest Dodger fan but also critical
analyst thinks of Saturday.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Night about the game Game seven. It gave us everything
we wanted and you summed it up really nicely, I thought.
I think Game three still is going to hold a
special place in my heart. Game three was one of
the best experiences I've ever had. I went into the
weekend assuming that the Boujays were going to get to
Yamamoto Ons on Friday night and close out the series,
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and I was proven wrong, thankfully. H Yamamoto coming back
on zero day's rest to close out a World Series
after having won two World Series games over the pre
us eight days. I don't know how you could tell
me that there has been a better performance, at the
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very least by a pitcher in the postseason. I don't
think enough praise could be given to Yama Moto for that.
You could talk about Miguel Rojas in the last couple
of games. You could be critical of Dave Roberts for
sticking with pa Has too long in the first five games.
But Yama Moto basically Dave Roberts telling the entire baseball
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world that he had zero faith in his relievers. And
I'm talking about your like situational relievers that craped the
bed the entire season and they didn't do anything to
address it. Going into the postseason. Dave Roberts kept throwing
US starters and starters after another in Game seven. I've
never seen anything like it. You're right, all those things
(04:51):
that you touched on.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought he managed his ass off. I just do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think we give a little too much credit. It's like,
when things work out, he's an exceptional manager. I mean,
but like all work out, it'll work out.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Why was Pat Heston's centerfield? Why would you.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He put pauson center field because they needed someone with
a because what's his name, Tommy Edmund's got like a
wet paper, wet newspaper for an arm. So he put
passestant center because they needed a throw at home plate
to get the ti in or go ahead run.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was defensive replacement. Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And and why was why did they make the switch
at second base? Same thing right now? He ends up
getting I mean, you end up getting a home run.
But the two biggest plays of the game for the
Dodgers in the bottom of the ninth inning were made
by his two defensive replacements. Again, I get, I I
understand where judging results and that process. But again I
(05:54):
and we're doing the same thing with pitchers, And and
I would tell you that, yes, I mean, don't we
all agree with the idea that first starting pitchers are
paid more money because they're generally better than relievers. The
only question is can they get their motor going in
short order? And so many guys have started or played
college baseball where they come out of the pen or whatever.
(06:15):
But yeah, like, as a as a coach, when why
do I have to go to why do I have
to go to bullpen guys who aren't as good at
pitchers as my starters and the bullpen guys haven't shown
themselves to be up to the challenge. Yeah, again, I
thought it was. I thought it was. It was. Granted,
I am judging results, but I'm also trying to judge process,
(06:35):
and I thought his process was really good.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And just to be clear, Rojas was a he wasn't
a defensive replacement. Rojas got the start in Game six
because paw Has couldn't hit and his Game five replacement
couldn't hit, so they move Edmund, who had been playing
a great second base all series. In fact, in Game three,
I think Tommy Edmund was like a defensive hero and
he put paw Has in just to mix it up
(06:58):
a little bit. And the guy ge hit a home run.
And by the way, that's one of the the sub
stories of this. Yeah, I guess Miguel Rojas Uh. His
wife told him.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Was yes, yes, and she kept telling him you get
hit a home run and then before and he's like,
what are you talking about, Like, I haven't hit a
home run forever.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's he doesn't home runs.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I know. And it was a one hander on a slider. Amazing, Oh,
it was amazing. I'm as to tell you this, like again,
we could talk about the NFL and Jane Daniels is hurt.
We can talk about the Packers playing down the level
of competition that costs themselves a game. And yet you
have a perfectly good kicker, but then McManus comes back
and you give him the job, and then McManus suddenly struggles. Like,
(07:40):
we go into all of those stuff and it's it's
all relatively interesting, but I mean, like, look, Game seven
was an epic game. Game three was an epic game,
and I would say that Game six was a pretty
epic game as well, especially considering the excitement and how
it ended. Is all this fair?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Jason mcguil Rojas was the hero of Game six with
just his glove.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Awon't okay?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But my point though, is, are you okay saying three
of those games, three of the seven or Alzheimer's yes?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh absolutely? Drama wise?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh yeah, so we watched a seven game series where
three of them were all timers. You had, in many
people's conversation, the greatest single game performance by a hitter,
that being show Hey, going back to game three, right,
and then you have Yamamoto, who I mean, like, look,
(08:34):
it's very similar to Madison Bumgardner, right, mad Bum had
that and mad Bum was a little bit was he
had to hit back then, and he was actually good
with the bat as well. So we've seen some of
mad Bum we've never seen show hey, and again, I
would have to I don't have the depth of baseball
knowledge in terms of a series, but what we got
(08:55):
was as good of a baseball series as you possibly
can get. Three all time games, including the last two
being absolute knock down Dragonmounts. Monci. You have a Dodgers podcast, Okay, Yeah,
(09:18):
And Jason was convinced when it went back to Toronto
it was over in game six. Where were you in
terms of your level of belief that they could win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm definitely not on the same It was over mentality,
but I understood it because after the eighteenth inning game,
which I was at till the very end, it was
very uninspiring to see the Dodgers come out looking so flat,
while Toronto seemed unbothered by an eighteen inning game. Now,
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Toronto also did take out most of their players way
before the Dodgers in that eighteenth inning game. Vladimir Guerrero
Junior was the only one that played the whole thing,
and so they just seemed refreshed and we seemed flat.
So naturally I didn't like the feeling of going back
to Toronto down in two games when the excitement was
gonna be just probably like Game one in Toronto that
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they hadn't experienced. So I didn't like it. But I
wasn't like it's over. I was like, no, it's anything
can happen. And once the eighteenth thinning game happened, I
felt like everything went out the window, Like logic went
out the window. Anything you thought before this year he started,
it's gone. This is just when eighteen innings the plan,
they're now on plan F you know what I mean.
So I thought anything can still happen. And it wasn't
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like Vladimirica Railroad Junior was killing it against us the
way he killed the Yankees single handedly. There was hope,
and and we had Yamamoto and I just I had hope,
but it was it was it was hard. It was
hard after those two losses, after the eighteenth thinning game.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Uh, Sammy, you're like me, You're I'm I'm less than neutral, right.
The Dodgers are my son's favorite team. I am a
quasi Dodger fan angels are my team, but I was
definitely rooting for the Dodgers. You're more neutral.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I was ready for the Dodgers. Dogs.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We're all We're all watching texting on Saturday. Jason is
just He's just on one. Every you know, he's out
the announcers, the umpiring, everything. Jason's just on one. What
was your experience like watching Saturday Night?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean this, I think that some Dodger fans would
feel that this World Series compared to last year, is
even sweeter, just because it was more of a battle.
I know, last year made up for sort of like
the oh, we have to win, like a real one
in front of fans, you know, outside of twenty twenty.
This one felt like such a battle. Last year it
was so much hype for Yankees Dodgers, and it was
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a dud. It was over in five and this one
was It was like an all timer to go back
to back in that style, and I think Dodger fans
are gonna I mean, this is this is this as
sweet as it gets. So it was. It was fun
to watch. It was very stressful Friday and Saturday night.
The whole the whole series was stressful outside of the
couple of games where the Blue Jays kind of pulled
away and won convincingly. But I mean from after that
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eighteen inning game, I was like, this kind of feels
like like twenty eighteen, like it could go like ever,
like they just they wouldn't win another game after that.
But man, when they were down three to two in
the series, it did feel like it was over. I
was more with Jason and then just to watch them
when those two in Toronto was so could have started
on Rob Parker unbelievable. I mean, I've beenlieving in it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You can you can get it on Rob Parker there,
uh is what he is, Doug.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I've been living here for ten years. We'll go back
to Rob. I've been living here for ten years, and
I've gotten to see them win three World Series in
six years and get to see them play in one, two, three?
How many World Series since twenty seventeen? Five? Yep? Five?
So that's I mean, that's a pretty good run for
someone who moved here from Iowa to see them be
so good in baseball that have the Dodgers win this
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much has been incredb.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The Japanese players just wired differently. Man, they're so good.
I just I love Yamamoto's whole mentality. It reminded me
the World Baseball Classic that they won. Jay Stu, what
were you gonna say about Rob? So? Rob? When we
last joined Rob Parker, he was saying the series was over?
Is that what people are dragging him over?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
More specifically, the Dodgers are cooked, the Dodgers. Dodgers will
not be able to fight back that this game is
the series is over. And we were all interested to
see how he would react, if he would take back
his words, but no, he's been He still thinks that
Toronto very much gave it away, that this was a
(13:42):
fortunate thing for the Dodgers to have happened to them.
And to that point, I'm going to disagree with Rob.
With Rob, you never know kind of where the BA
starts and where the seriousness begins. I have no idea
what game he's playing here with Dodger fans or not,
or if he's serious. But uh, but they were not cooked.
They showed fight and I'm proud of them.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah I would. I mean, I don't know where the
BS starts, but it's but the one, the one thing
that is consistent about Rob is I don't know anybody
he actually gives credit for winning games. You know, he's
called Tom Brady the luckiest of all time. He said
Bill Belichick's a phony. So I don't know who is
(14:26):
responsible who actually gets credit for New England winning six
Super Bowls. Similarly, the Dodgers. Again, how many times do
you have to win before you actually get credit? So
I don't I can't concern myself with Rob in that
in the way that Dodger fans do. But I think
that people who give him attention, you're just doing him
(14:46):
a favor because that's clearly the logic behind it, and
it works.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That guy that Caleb Joseph, who's the former Major league
catcher and TSN analyst who's just been getting killed by
Dodger fans and Keyky Hernandez elevated his his take this weekend,
so it got everyone more pissed off.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like, I will agree with this guy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He was the one who basically said that the Dodgers
were not the better team in this series. I would say,
if you go numbers next to numbers, the Blue Jays
were the better team in this series. The Dodgers just
made one more play than they did at the end.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right, Yet, can can Caleb and Rob kind of be
right in that? Like I felt that the Dodgers sort
of picked the blue Jays pockets, Like the blue Jays
had their chance and the Dodgers are just right there
to sort of I agree with that, I would.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Agree, but also like if you remember, like who is
who touched home play but was like a fraction.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Of second late Heiner Fileffa, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I mean why didn't he run through home play?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, there was that, they asked him that. And also
like his leadoff off the third base was not as
big as lead off as and.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's like, listen, they're based running cost him the end
of game six? Yeah yeah? And winning right yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And is that a case of like been there, Dodgers
have been there, done that, blue Jays are or maybe
maybe the ones coming in again again?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I I don't know. Me Again, it's a very logical statement,
but that does take away from the idea that they
were the better team. The better team does make those plays,
So I mean again, I I just let's let's we
don't need to get into being critical of people who
are critical or whatever. I just like I woke up
with a what I call a sports high, where I
(16:24):
invested a lot of time into watching a supporting event
that I can't Honestly, I did get emotionally tied to
wanting the Dodgers to win, just because I'm I grow
so tired of everyone who doesn't ever visit Southern California
tell me how bad Southern California is when every time
I'm in Southern California, I'm like, I love it here,
Like it's awesome. What you know? I mean, yes, skid
(16:49):
Row's bad. I don't live in skid Row, and nobody
I don't know does, right, That's like, okay, there's a
whole other, big city out there. But anyway, that's not
the point. The point is I woke up going, damn,
I just watched one of the best sporting events in
my life, and I got to watch two Friday night,
Like Friday was Halloween, right, and like, you know, you're
(17:10):
sitting there and what is sports supposed to do? This
is a big thing. What is sports supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Transport you away? Yeah, take you away from reality?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Correct? Okay, So again, I'm not looking for anybody's sympathy.
I have a great life, great, but it's it's Halloween night,
and I got my dogs and I got a TV.
My neighborhood there's like one family with kids. I lived
three doors down outside that no one came by. You know.
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I got daughters in college, my sons. I don't have
anybody around for Halloween, like I love Halloween, and I
got I don't have any ability to go to a
Halloween party. I'm just sitting at home. So I'm like,
I'm gonna watch this game. And I got rewarded with
a great watch. And then it's Saturday night. Now I
got football, and I got the multiview and I'm watching
the SC game there win against Nebraska, and his whole
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day and we're prepping and we're leaving the next day
for Kansas, and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
lock in and just enjoy Game seven, and it's three
to one. I'm like, is this really how the baseball
season is gonna end? And then all of a sudden,
they put a couple together and it just becomes the
most incredible game, the most incredible ending with so many
twists and turns. You had the ground rule double in
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game six, which which definitely changed the ending of that one,
you have the bases loaded in the bottom of the
ninth and the infield being in and then the play
by Paez where he runs over key K and KEYK
is trying to do a Willie Mays catch because it
looked like you might have been a little out of
position he.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Was to catch that. No, you're not gonna catch that.
I don't know what he was thinking, but I mean,
the whole thing was so great.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And makes so many awesome plays throughout the series too.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I am convinced that Key K Hernandez does not play
regular season baseball anytime it's played. He only plays in
the playoffs for the Dodgers's and he's like in the
big plays. I don't even write like in the big plays.
I'm convinced of it. I just maybe this is a
message of gratitude, or it's congrats to Jay Stu, or
just it's what I love about sports? Is that again?
(19:14):
For those probably five or six hours each night that
I'm watching baseball, I even watched the pregame show on Saturday.
I hate pregame shows and I used to be part
of pregame shows, especially that pregame show. It was terrible.
Terrible because they're just talking about stuff that again, it's
(19:34):
like all prediction stuff, which is just a waste of time,
instead of having some of the best players in baseball
teach me about different guys. Teach me how Black Guarreau
is this incredible hitter that's been even better in the
playoffs in the regular season. Show me what they're doing
to show Hey, hotel anyway, I watched pregame show. I
loved every second of that game, every second. It was
(19:56):
so good. So I'm not telling you that football is
not a more popular sport. I'm not telling you that
we don't have more things to get to. Tucker Craft
hearing his acl jayde and Daniels dislocating. All those things
are important, and we got plenty of time to talk
about football, but baseball. Take yourself about what a weekend
for the sport.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's Doug ot Leave Show Fox Sports Radio. I'll play
for you. A little bit later on the show, Dan
Quinn's answer to why Jane Daniels was in the game
when they're getting blown out in the fourth quarter. Matt
Holliday's going to join us in about a minute and
a half. First, so let me get you to Montcy
Bolanos for an update. Months it's the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's won a World series.
(20:52):
He's so he's and and one one of the most
epic world series when he was with the Saint Louis
Cardinals and they beat the Texas Rangers. David Freese, the
hero of the MVP. So I guess I just want
to know. Matt Holliday joins us now on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. How would that series
it just concluded, compared to the one that you guys
won with the Cardinals over the Rangers.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Well, I think they certainly both go down as two
of the great world series of all time. Anytime you
go down to a Game seven, I think most of
the you know, the high intensity drama of Game six
will be remembered for the one we won as opposed
to all the drama that went down in Game seven.
(21:36):
You know, this year so too legendary world series is.
But I think you know, obviously, when you're talking about
a Game seven and all the back and forth, and
then for a guy that pitched Game six to come
back and close out Game seven and two plus innings
certainly adds. You know, I think a legend that that
(22:02):
maybe we haven't ever seen so great World series? Great
for baseball, you know, I think it's Uh, it's a
it's interesting because you can you can nitpick and look
at all the little things when it comes down to
a one run game and an extra inning, uh situation.
You know, you start talking about all the little things
that could have gone the other way that would allow
(22:24):
the Blue Jays to win the World Series, and then
you know everything that you know the Dodgers did so uh,
it's it was. It was a fascinating series and and
a lot of a lot of a lot of little things.
Matt added up.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
A lot of little things. Okay, so let's get to
those little things. Let's get to those little things. H
Where do you be? Where do you begin? Because I
think the layman, the non baseball savant, I would consider
you a baseball savant. The non baseball savant wants to
pick apart, you know, bottom of the ninth inning, Uh,
(22:57):
or even you go back to when and the Blue
Jays got doubled up. Let let's go to Game six
when the Blue Jays get doubled up on that short
uh that short pop up to left center. Was that
a base running error that ended Game six?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah? I mean yes. But I think the thing that
that I think maybe caught the base runner off guard
was how shallow Kik Hernandez was playing, which ironically almost
cost him the World Series if it wasn't for Pajes
running over and catching the ball over his head. You
(23:37):
know they're at the end. I think as a base runner,
you checked the outfielders and you have to know where
they're playing. And me, you know, in watching the game
where I can't see the outfielders off the bat, I
thought the ball was down as well, and then here
comes you know, kyk to make the catch and then
you know the guy makes a great play to to
(23:59):
pick and in between hop at second. But you know,
I think the thing with the base runner is is
you have to know where your outfielders are. And you know,
he didn't even have to die. He caught it running in.
So I I yes, I think that that was a
base running mistake. But you know key K was playing
(24:21):
shut up. Maybe you know before the pitch, Uh, he
took a few steps in. I don't know exactly. You know,
i'd have to, you know, maybe try to see the
overhead if he if he was able to somehow maybe
maybe not even intentionally trick the runner by pre pre pitch,
you know, because you're taught at the base runner to
check the outfielders and then take your lead and and
(24:44):
then you know, you you take your secondary and react
to the ball, and the ball, like I said, seemingly
was going to get down, takes one extra step and
it cost him. So yeah, I think overall you'd have
to say that that's a base running mistake. But you know,
in that situation, he was very very shallow.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, speaking
of second secondary lead, what do you make of what
happened bottom of the ninth inning. You got Connor at
what third base and he gets I mean misses by
milliseconds right and stepping on home. But should there have
(25:26):
been a bigger lead, you know, bigger secondary lead, and
should he have run through the base instead of slidden
slid sliden slid slid into home.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think that, Yes, in hindsight,
he probably should have had a little better, bigger secondary lead.
Makes you wonder if the way the game, the winds
of the night before, maybe in the back of his mind,
or maybe in the back of the coach's mind. The
coaching third base is that you, hey, don't get too
(25:57):
far off in case there's a you know, a line
drive towards third that would double you off. Yes, I
think he should have had a larger lead. It also
was a left handed hitter, which gives the catcher a
clearer path to try to pick off a runner at
third if you get too big of a lead or
(26:19):
a secondary lead. But uh, it is interesting to think
about that even if it was one one foot bigger
on the on the secondary, would he have been safe.
Certainly would have made Rojas rush to throw more if
he if he'd have had a better jump, better read
better better secondary lead. But yeah, I mean, yeah, another
(26:42):
one where you you go, golly, you know they could
have if he's one foot further off the base, they
win the World Series and you're celebrating in Toronto today
instead of l A. But yeah, that's baseball. There's just
so many little things that add up, but it certainly
makes me me saying that the night before could have
certainly had an impact on his secondary.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Tray. That's always
Matt Holiday's seven time All Star. He's joined us throughout
the baseball season. Good friend of the program, friend personally,
and just kind of looking back through what was just
an epic World Series with incredible Game six, incredible Game seven.
What you do for a living and for fun is
(27:24):
swings in baseball. Explain to me how Rojas, who's not
a prodigious home run hitter, hits a one hands a
ball out of the park in the top of the
ninth inning with show Hey, it was a slider, right, Like,
how do you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I mean, I think that that was the pitch I
think he had held. I think that might have been
his only home run off of the right hand pitch
of the whole season. It's one of those things, Doug,
where I think I think with Showy on deck, Hoffman
was really just trying to throw a strike with the slider,
and sometimes when you when you kind of take a
(28:05):
little off where you're just trying to trying to make
sure that it's a strike. It looked like it backed
up towards the hitter, so it kind of spun in
closer to him, and he found the barrel and and
you know, he's a major league player, and and if
you find the barrel, and and sliders tend to carry
(28:28):
further than fastballs or for you know, breaking balls to
spin if you if you hit them properly and you know,
redirect the spin, they have more carry. So bad bad
breaking ball too close to a hitter that doesn't hit
home runs. The only pitch he probably could have hit
out right there is a is a breaking ball close
(28:51):
to him, and and kind of a perfect storm of
events where you know it backed up, he caught it
on the barrel, caught it out from run, hit it
to the perfect, perfect part of the park, and you know,
you got you got a tie game. So it was unlikely,
to say the least, but it looked like he aims
(29:12):
that slider a little bit. I think, you know, in hindsight, again,
we're talking about baseball, so you can always second guess,
but I think a fastball away to a hitter like
that is is always the safest pitch.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's easy with hindsight to sit back and go, hey,
Dave Roberts nailed it, using starters instead of relievers. They're
in the in the late extra innings. Obviously, Yamamoto in
the moment, did you think that was the right decision?
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, look, I'm always a little surprised when you bring
a guy back to pitch the day before. I mean,
he threw close to one hundred pitches the night before
and as and then you know, you bring him back
on zero day's rest. It's really, I think, kind of
ironic when you when you think about, you know, the
(30:02):
way that the Dodgers leaned on their bullpen so much
last year, and then they almost solely leaned on their
starters this year. So it's like almost reverse of the
way that they won the World Series from this year
to last year was so heavily bullpen couldn't wait to
(30:23):
get their starters out of the game. This year, they
didn't want they want nothing to do with any of
their relievers, and they're you know, recycling starters, and you know,
putting in a guy that pitched the previous day, I
think is is quite ironic. But yeah, I mean I
(30:45):
think at the time I was just a little surprised
that he was even available. I mean, typically when a
guy throws a hundred pitches the next day doesn't even
puts fleets on. And I know it's Game seven of
the World Series and all hands on deck is the
is the big tagline, but that typically doesn't include the
guy that's two one hundred pitches the night before. So
(31:08):
I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
And he was awesome, and he found it. I found
out a way to get out of it. Matt, your
sport was awesome this year, especially at the end. Man
did not let us down. Appreciate you joining us. Let's
talk soon. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yeah, good luck, and I I sorry I can't make
it up to Kansas. We got to k a couple
of kids here that I'm working with, but I'll be watching.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
These are excuses you got. You can fire that. You
go down to Guthrie, fire that sucker up and be
here an hour and a half. You get the work in.
Excuses are like, you know what, everybody's got one. They stink.
I'll talk to you everybuddy. Okay, that's Matt Holiday, fifteen
years in the Big seven, time All Star in the
World Series Champion with the Cardinals joining us in the
Doug Gottlip Show.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
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Speaker 5 (32:20):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Mance what I Got?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Coach.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
We're gonna start the.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Week with big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
That's right, let's get into it, coach. So big deal,
little deal, no deal that the Eagles have traded for
now former Dolphins edge rusher linebacker Jalen Phillips. Eagles have
made a few a few moves ahead of this trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Uh, no doubt they got didn't they get your Jay?
Your Alexander? Over the weekend as well, super talented guy
who's always hurt. Obviously, the Dolphins fire sale has begun
and it probably won't end until the trade deadline, and
then it'll continue on in the off seasons that I
think they're gonna light a match and start over over there.
(33:09):
I think it's a big deal. I do, just because
there's something off with their chemistry and their way of
fixing it is let's go get just more really good
players and see if that works. I don't love it,
but again, it's at a position like edge rusher, where
it's not like necessarily a chemistry driven position, so it's
not as not as tough to see having some success
(33:30):
out of it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, Eagles definitely trying to beef up their defense for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Okay, coach, big.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Deal, little deal, non deal. I did not have this
on my bingo card that the Packers would lose to
the Panthers at home.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think it's a big deal. I just do. Just
this is this Packers group, you know, just you're so
into them, and you're like, man, they beat the Steelers
fourth quarter, they look like super Bowl champions. Then you know,
obviously you miss kicks and that's going to deflate you.
But got to score some points against the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
That's absolutely, absolutely no. I don't know what the Packers
are doing. I really thought they were gonna win their
division easily, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And on a day when the Lions lose at home.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Right like, you know, yes, yes, I team this year.
I could not believe my eyes.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It looked bad.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Speaking of what looked bad, the Bengals and they're tackling
and Bengals coach, big deal, little deal, no deal that
they gave up a fifty eight yard touchdown to tight
end Colston Loveland, rookie tight end with seventeen seconds left,
giving the Bears though forty seven to forty two win.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I could have tackled that guy.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I would have trumped them and they would have been like, oh,
that's penalty. Okay, well he didn't score.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Uh yeah, it's bad, big it's a big deal because
they had the worst defense in football last year. They
showed some improvement early and now they've progressed and it's
bad again.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Come on, come on, man, you job don't want to score.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You're about to win.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Unreal? Unreal, all right, coach, Come on man, come on man,
big deal.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
That box is reporting the twenty six million people watched
Game seven of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Gigantic deal.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Gigantic.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I mean, you can't can understand that that's a gigantic,
gigantic deal, huge, huge, really really really big deal because
you know, like again, you have the Dodgers West Coast,
and you'll get people that say they're ruining baseball. Ain't
get Toronto. You're like, well, they're in Canada. Nobody cares.
(35:38):
It's not Yankees and Red Sox. Nobody cares. Six million
people say otherwise.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right, And it was a built up, like you said,
it was such a great series, like it built up,
and you know, it's funny that people are like, oh,
they're ruining baseball because if I am correct, Toronto has
a top five payroll. So it's not like they weren't
spending either. They were willing to spend.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's just you know, this is forgive me if I
missed this. The twenty six million is counting Canada too, I.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Don't, no, I think that's the most.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's just okay, let's get the Canadian numbers in there
too and see what we got. Yeah, no, I think
a lot of that country is watching.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Of course, exactly either either.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Way, twenty six million is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah for sure, all.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Right, coach, let's move on here. A big deal, little deal,
no deal that Auburn fired head football coach who Freeze
after their loss to Kentucky this weekend where they scored
three pointsbo ten to three.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Uh. It's a big deal, but it's it's more of
a big deal that the SEC just they're gonna fire
anybody who's not ranked or not. I mean it's literally
fired coach and which which at the end of the
year creates these what should be I mean Auburn Alabama.
Even when Auburn is down and has a bad season,
at the end of the year, they they'll put up
a big fight. Now it's like half the guys arerom
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the portal, the coaches are gone, it's interim coach. It's
it's always a joke. So I it's a big deal,
but it's also really hurting the SEC overall as a
league that if your team has a down year you
fire your coach, coach, it makes him a disaster for
the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
M I couldn't agree more quickly here, coach, big deal,
little deal, no deal that the Reese's Cups was the
most popular candy given out a Halloween for a second
straight year.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I love Reese's Cups.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Rici's peanutbar cups. Yes, yeah, I mean I think it's
no big deal.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Though, because because it's obvious the well we also.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
We did the favorite candies, and those guys forgot Teresa's
Peanut Butar cups and I nailed it. And Jay Stuo
is like, that was actually the first good thing you
said on radio years, So that part's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
And that's game time. Game This is game time on
the Dug Godlieb Show
Speaker 1 (37:36):
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