January 29, 2019 • 24 mins
Doug is live in Atlanta and is joined by Rams running back CJ Anderson who talks about his role over the later part of the season and how Todd Gurley is working back into the game plan heading into Super Bowl LIII. Doug tells the Lakers to pump the brakes before paying a king's ransom for Anthony Davis. Plus, Super Bowl Champion Head Coach Brian Billick jumps on to give his thoughts on how Belichick and McVay will approach the big game.
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of the Doug got Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio.
He is the breakthrough story of the playoffs. He's c
J Anderson's kind of have have to spend a couple of
moments with us here on stage live four Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, of the l A Rams, How are you?
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I'm good? Yeah, okay. So I want to go back
two thousand fifteen with the Broncos. You won the Super
Bowl and that's a crazy year for people who don't remember,
which is Peyton was kind of shot right, The defense
was unbelievable in the second half of the year. That
Hayden starts at the end of the season and then
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you guys win it with special teams, a little running
game and your defense was obscene. Um, what was that experience,
that Super Bowl experience for you? Uh, it was amazing,
you know, And that was my second one. You know,
I remember a lot about forty eight, the one we
lost then more than we won. Um. But the experience
for fifty I was trying to not do the negative
memory thing because that one that one got he was
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the first play. That one I got out of hand
real quick. But I think I think the one we
won that the most thing. That Remember, there's nothing more
exciting than than winning for guys like the Markets where
you know, don't get me wrong, I love paying the death.
That is my best friend, that's my dude. But when
it for guys like the Markets were, and when it
for guys like Wade who's put so much into it, um,
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you know, that's kind of like what I see now,
like Andrew Whitworth and and Roger Stafford and John Sullivan.
I mean, they've been in the league for a very
long time and never been a chance to be in
this position. So that's kind of how I see it now.
And you know, there'll be nothing better than to win
for them. What about those the benefit for the Patriots
of this is their ninth Most of these guys played
in it last Year's supposed to you guy. As as
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you know that first experience, sometimes it hits you, you know,
like a brick wall. How how much does the experience
help a team like the Patriots having played in this game?
I mean it helps. I mean I'm sitting here on
two in a radio row the week we played the game,
because you know, it's my third time playing in and
I know how to lock in and get ready to
go and prepare when it's time to prepare, and we
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use that week before to prepare. And I think, um,
I think experience do help, But I also think, what
what what it is is at the end of the day, Um,
when the balls put on a thirty five year line
is kicked off his football and I think our team
knows that they understand that. And um, you know, as
I've told him what you did week one all the
way to what you're doing now, it's the same formula
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of winning football. Because that's what it is. That's why
you got here. So if you take that formula and
do it at a high level, But that's not the formula,
to be honest with you, because the formula was Todd Gurley,
Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley, and now it's Todd Gurley in Hey, listen,
c J. Andrews, this has been crazy. Why why didn't
Why didn't what you're doing in l A with a
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two headed monster? Why didn't that work in Carolina with
you and Christian mccafford. That is a question for the Panthers.
I mean, when I got in and I saw it,
that was the that was the goal. And the first
three games of the season, for four games after the
bye week, the first month of the season, we were
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complimenting and going back and forth and I had a touchdown.
He had three touchdowns at the time we were coming,
compliment back and forth, and then thanks, you know, he
just emerged. I mean he became a special player where
you don't want to take him up the field because
he ketched the ball well out of the backfield. There
are so many different dynamic things that you can do
with him. And I understood that, and um, you know
so many ways I was helping him when I wasn't playing,
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Um to try to get him to the player where
he is a day and just give him my little
expertise and um snug from the probo this year. But
Ship had a hell of a year. Yeah, I mean
he had a great, great year. You had the never
Say Die foundation, that's actually your foundations. Did you have
that before you go to Oakland for six days and
then you go with the Rams? Yeah, Dreams ever died.
You know, it's been out to since two thousand and sixteen.
And you know we just provided in the city uval
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resources outside of UM entertainment and athletics, and you know,
the partnerships with Harvard and Google and different tech companies
that I have is great and um, you know, kind
of testament to my to what happened to me in
two thousand and eighteen. You know, I grew up an
inn City kid, didn't know my father, um, you know,
and I went through a bunch of hardships to get
where I was to day. And there's no different than
being released from Denver, Carolina and Oakland to put me
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in the position never giving up on what I feel
is my dream and what I believe in and trying
to play the game the right way and love it
the right way. And it worked out all right. I
gotta ask you a kind of personal question, how much
did you weigh the first day of the season with Carolina? Uh? Why? It?
It is something that people talk about like did you
have you gained that much weight or do you just
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does seven pounds look thicker on your body? I don't,
I don't, I don't. I don't know if it's a
game that the body fat percentage definitely win up like
eight nine percent body fat, which you know that that's
gonna make it look different. I mean, I'm still running
the same I was running when I was in Denver
in Carolina. That's how I feeling, and that's all that
matters to me. I can care care less what I
look like. You know, at the end of the day,
you don't get paid on what you look like. You
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get paid for first nawns and touchdowns. And that's what
I'm trying to do. Let you go, Um, what would
it mean to win the Super Bowl again? And look,
winning it means anything, but considering your journey this year,
the biggest thing that I would take, Um, you know,
and I said this on Opening Night last night, my
niece and my nephew for the first two was not
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old enough to remember. And when you see like the
Drew Brees picture with his and I, you know, I
got a daughter coming in April, but I don't have
kids don't like my girls, like my kids. But you
see Tom Brady and you know the Super Bowls, he
running and celebrating with his kids and Peyton Manning, um,
you know, with Miles um and his daughter can't get
her name right now, but you've seen that from Super
Bowl fifty. There'll be nothing better to celebrate and running
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around like a little kid with my niece and my nephew.
I know you have to run, I said, was the
last one? I lied? What? What? What more? Um? When
you scored n l A in the playoffs? When you score,
I saw girly going crazy, right, and then you know
last week you kind of still to a week and
a half ago whatever you just kind of stole the show.
Is that real? Is that really? Like? Is he really
as supportive of your success as he? The first thing,
the first thing he said when I walked in was
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I liked you in Denver. You can play. I mean
he's now I've been a Pro Bowl in his league,
and I've been a top ten rusher in this league
and he respects my game. And I think that's where
me and him comes great because I respect his game
and what he does well. And um, you know he's
just generally happy. I mean, God has blessed both of
us with with with many things that I don't I
don't see healthy all the way healthy. He's all the
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way healthy. And what people don't understand is Todd Gurley
is not insecure of his talent. Todd gurley talent is
gonna be top talent every time Todd Gurleys tups on
the football field. So you know, he has no shame
and no and no wave of you know, of someone
else coming in and helping him trying to win the championships.
The Dreams Never Die Foundation go to d n D
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Foundation twenty two dot org for more information, or fall
c J on social media at c J Anderson RB
nine again the and the Foundation has its own Twitter
handle d n D Foundation twenty two. There's never been
a better correlation between foundation and production and one season
than the Dreams Never Die. Guy starts out in Carolina,
goes through Oakland and that mess for less than a
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week and ends up in l A. And now he's
got a chance to win the Super Bowl again. C J,
thanks so much of your time. Thank you all right,
c J. Anderson joining us here on the Doug Gottlib
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Here, here's what I want
to do, Okay, I want to get to uh the
Anthony Davis and the potential trade to the L. A.
Rams and um and why I think why I think
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you don't move Heaven and Earth all right? And then
and then we'll we'll move back onto her to football.
Here's the here's the thing. Sports has evolved and changed.
It just has, and there is a there's a connective
tissue between all of them. I remember I worked at CBS,
which is if you're looking at our beautiful set, which
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is remarkable, I mean, thanks to the folks at Amazon
Fire TV for providing us with this set. It's spectacular.
And I know that you're driving your car or you're
listening to us on any device, You're like, I don't
care about your set. My point is, when you go
to a place like this, you want to have a
cool set so you feel like everybody is fully invested
in your show, and ours is has been the best
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in the last two years since I've been here. Anyway,
I used to work at CBS and Phil Simms was
incredibly kind to me. And one of the things that
Phil said to me, which I know to be true,
and I think most athletes know to be true. But
he said it to me and for Phil who at
the time was calling Super Bowls for CBS, and he's like, look,
I love coming on your show because you know football.
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And you don't necessarily know football as well as I do,
not having played it, but you know it because there's
a if you've competed at a high level, of you
coached at a high level, there are things you don't know,
but there are things that you know that average guys
who have just been members of the media or civilian fans,
they'll they'll never now. And so but this part, I
think you can understand the connective tissue in competing in athleticism.
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You might not know if you didn't compete at a
high level. But what's made the Yankees great, What's made
the Cubs great, what's made the Astros great? What's even
made the Red Sox great? Look? Have all these baseball
teams gone out and spent a bunch of money, sure,
but you know what else they have. They have homegrown
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talent on rookie contracts, on cheaper deals. You have to
have a blend of the two. We the the discussion
in baseball is over Bryce Harper Manny Machado and this relationship,
like Abbert Pools, has never won a World Series. You
never wanna. I think he want a playoff series since
he's been a member of the Angels, And though that
supposedly bought credibility and maybe financially makes you dollars in
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terms of uh, your local TV and radio ad revenue,
does it bring you a championship which will make you
the most money and bringing the most respected the franchise
The answers no, I mean the the story in baseball
John Carlos Stanton right, that didn't work, and and Alex
Rodriguez when he's in Texas, having that one or two
highly paid stars rarely doesn't necessarily never rarely works. What
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what's allowed the San Antonio Spurs, okay, is their star
to be successful for fifteen years. Their stars didn't take
top dollar and they had lesser play play, lesser paid
kind of homegrown guys that made up their last couple
of starters and their bench. It's the same thing that's
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helped to go help the Golden State Warriors early on. Yeah,
they had staff, but he wasn't under a big contract
because he wasn't under a big contract allowed them to
reach out and get Kevin Durant, and that went with
Draymond Green who wasn't under a huge contract. And they
have Clay Thompson who's now who's not under a super
max contract. And let's hurt them or what will hurt
them in the future and stop their run is being
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front loaded. The Rams are an interesting story because the
Rams aren't built for long term stained success. They're just not.
They went out and traded for Marcus Peters and acquired
to keep to leave, and they went and got in
Dominan sue and yeah, they they're gonna have Todd Gurley
for a long time, but they have to have a
completely new defensive backfield next year. They have somebody's contracts
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they're gonna have to figure out there deep They they
paid Aaron Donald. Eventually you're Robin Peter. You know, you know,
if you're if you're going on the cheaper Robin Peter
to pay Paul. But they're not. They're front loaded. And
the reason the Patriots, the Patriots has spread money around,
spreading money around is in all sports, the way it works.
When you're top heavy, you're like remember more Gana the
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Kissing Bandit, you're like top That's how teams are bad.
Teams are built. And I look at Lebron James team.
The reason it wasn't sustainable in Cleveland wasn't because it
was Cleveland. It wasn't. It's not sustainable to have one
or two guys making that much money and then filling
in the holes. You have a chance at longer term
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success when you have young guys or guys going into
their second contracts that at reasonable contract reasonable deals, and
you do have a couple of stars. That's what the
Celtics have, the Raptors have, That's what the Warriors had,
and that's what the Lakers have right now. They have
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a chance. They have a chance to rebuild this thing
the right way. And if they trade Kuzma and Lonza
Ball and Brandon Ingram and zooboch All for Anthony Davis,
which I don't believe is what the actual going rate,
that would be massively overpaying. That would be paying above Sticker,
which nobody even pays Sticker anymore for a car. I
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believe that'd be a top heavy team that though it
could be successful in the short term, that's not long
term sustained success. Lebron James is thirty four, he's not
getting younger. And Anthony Davis has shown he didn't have
the ability to carry a team on his own. No
one does. But even Anthony Davis, as great as we
all know, he he has to have other guys, and
the Lakers have other guys. They just simple shouldn't simply
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trade all of them away. That is the connected tissue
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and a guy who knows about what it's like to
prepare for and win a Super Bowl and deal with
as a head coach, Hey coach, can I get some tickets?
Hey coach, can I get some tickets? E is the
NFL Network Brian Billick, who joins us, how much of
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that distracts a team? Yeah, everybody talks about the advantage
that the Patriots have, and that is one of them.
As a coach, I don't know that you people can appreciate.
Once the game kicks off, it's like a name of
the game you've played, the outcome and the the repercussions
obviously a hundredfold. But it's my biggest concern was from
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the minute after we had won the championship game in
this kid, in our case in Oakland, to kick off
of the of the Super Bowl, how we were going
to handle that two weeks. Obviously, the Patriots, which we
ought to call this the New England Patriot Invitational, they're
here so much. They obviously got it down, but they
know they know exactly the pacing once you get here,
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practice the distractions, How to hold that at arm's length,
What the pacing of practice should be, the excruciating along Saturday,
the pre all of that stuff. The Rams have to
overcome that. And they've got guys on the staff that
have been in Super Bowls and a couple of players
I think that can draw. They gotta lean on them
heavily to to get the other players to buy in,
to understand, look, you know, don't do this for us,
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and just to answer what you're talking about specifically, the
first three days and the administrative staff did a brilliant
job was get it. Let's get it all out of
the way. Travel tickets, cars, hotels. We had it all.
I mean, we had a concierge basically for every player.
Get it all the way because once now, once we
get past Wednesday, the week before, it's got to be
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all about football and I don't want to hear about tickets.
I don't want to see anybody distracted because now it's
about preparing for the game. Doug got Leave show on
Fox Sport Trayer that's the voice of Brian billick Um.
Remind me, okay, what I remember about your Ravens teams
was the downfall was twofold because you guys were arguably
since the eighty five Bears, the best defense we've seen
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was twofold one. Um, you had salary cap issues, right,
and so you had to you had two part ways
with some really really talented people because you're so good
that the best players had to get paid. And then
to Kyle Bowler, didn't become what you thought we were
gonna be become. I look at this Rams team and
I think, I think Golf seems to be better obviously
than Buller. Should tell whether it's he seems to be
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better obviously than Buller. But they might be headed for
that same like it's gonna be a different roster, and
that's the challenge. That's the challenge any teams have. You know,
when you look on the other side of the field
with the Patriots, part of the key is and success
breeds success. You know, it's always easier to earn the
second million the first minute, but it doesn't in the NFL,
right half the teams don't make the playoffs. I want
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to get to that in a second. What the Patriots
have been able to do is create a system and
a structure with the authority of a Bill Belichick, is
that they've wrapped themselves around situational role players. They don't
have to have the big name stars, and if it
gets too expensive, we'll cut ways with them. Uh and
everybody would like to build it that way, but that's
hard to do. You're exactly right, and that's why half
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the playoff field changes every year. Because the cab we
in our super Bowl year, we extended ourselves the next
year thinking we could duplicate help. We had a lot
of older players, the Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharp's, Rob Burnett's
uh you know across the board. Uh that key came
in the next year. Two years. So we extended ourselves,
which means, you know, at some point you got even
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up the credit card, which and every time we extended
ourselves to go from the super Bowl team to the
next year, Ozzy would come in and go, now, you
know what this means for the next year, right, because
because we're gonna be and we ended up being the
youngest team ever in the NFL. The next year, UM
had nineteen rookies on that team because we had to
have the cap Perch Brian Billy joining us in the
Doug Galla. Other thing I remember about your career was
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when you came from Minnesota to get the head coaching job.
People were blown away by, uh, your level of preparativeness
and understanding the roster, knowing exactly what you want to
do when you hit the ground hit the ground running
in Baltimore, and this is coming off of a devastating loss. Uh.
In the NFC Championship game. We look at so many
of these new hires that are made guys with no
head coaching experience, but their their offensive gurus. How well
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prepared do you think these guys are for what it
takes to run a friendship. Everybody's looking for the next
Sean McVeigh. It's become a general managers league. It's a
little like the NBA now. And that's not a good
thing or a bad thing. It just is the cap,
the authority, the person. It's all general manager. They're all
looking for that guy. Look, we're gonna lock you in
the office, feedure your meal into the door, come out
with these genius game plans. We'll we'll, we'll put your
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staff together for you. Uh. And I don't say that critically.
It is what it is. I will tell you this
as someone who has lived in you work your entire life,
professional life. Wanting to become a head coach, you prepare yourself.
You know, whatever side of the ball, you develop an expertise,
all the structures, the coaches, everything you said. You know,
I may be the interview, express my theme vision for
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the team. You get the job and you sit in
that for me, you sit in that desk the very
first day and you realize, holy mackerel, I don't have
a clue of what I'm doing. It's it's on the
job training. You have no concept truly of what the
comprehensive job is. Now you learned very quickly, and you
surround yourself with good people like Sean mc excuse me,
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Sean McVeigh getting away, Wade Phillips. So that balance is very,
very important. But at the end of the day, it
is the job on the job training that you have
to learn that aspect of it. Why hasn't anybody been
able to copy, truly copy when the Patriots have done right,
like like in any of these other in any business,
any other business, somebody events at, somebody's first in the
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look they had the benefit of being first in, but
you copy it. How come no one's been able to
copy the structure of how they do and more than anything,
the versatility of the ability to change game play, game play,
it's week to week, whereas you know, like I talked
to the Charges, was like, hey, why don't you guys
play man against the Patriots? Like what's terrible with man?
We're not a good man? Tamers like, yeah, but the
zone clearly yeah, they was working like that's not who
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we are. The Patriots seemed to be the only ones
that I know they're not, but only why can't anybody
copy this? This sounds and I hate when people try
to detach Brady and Belichick and what they be good
is without the other. It doesn't matter. They've been together
for brilliantly for eighteen years. So this is not in
any way criticism. When you can start with Tom Brady,
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you talk about the single difference one, you begin with
that secon only like I said earlier, it's he It's
a lot easier to make the second million, that is,
the first million, a lot easier to make the next
million after that than the first two. Once you can
get that integrated and give Bill great credit for structuring
this thing. Role specific players that to avoid the cat
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purge the difficulties, will let the high price player go
when he earns himself up to that will fill in.
You know, this guy can't play sixty snaps and win,
but he can play twenty and give us a specific
role in that category. They do a brilliant job with that.
Now you can duplicate that you can try, but you
better start with the presidents of quarterback Tom Brady is
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and you better win because otherwise you don't have but
a second or third year to get this thing going. Right.
That's the big thing is he also need the organizational support, correct, right,
and he had parcels that precede him who you know,
loaded up the roster with you know who's But let's
also remember I just did a station in Baltimore and
in Boston that went back to that two thousand one season. Um,
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let's remember Belichick was on the way out. It was
he was he had let I forget who it was,
wasn't Tie Law, but he let a couple of players
go being criticized for it. They had not one bled
so uh and all of a sudden, now there's the change.
We're going with the young guy. Now. That could have
gone either way, but it didn't. And then it perpetuated
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and went on from there. Show that shows you the
tenuousness of this whole thing. But once it got it
going and they bought in and and uh, you know,
you also have to remember Bill Belichick has spent his
entire professional life, his entire professional life in the NFL,
never coach college ball has always been in the NFL.
That's an incredible amount of institutional knowledge that he brings
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to that last thing. And I know you're here to
promote Sea geek dot com, but you'all see you. We're
in the ship for ex Tech shoulder pads. Is the
honest question for you, what's the same age in your
mind to let the kids start playing tech? You interest?
I got grandsons and this is very real. Um, later
is better. The later the better that some kids, you
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know what, I would be hesitant to put them in
paths before the ninth grade. My only question is do
you want the first time a kid gets hit to
be like there is something to understanding how to get hit?
Because you can. You can only teach them so much
that they gotta do it right to two things, I
would say, one that the fundamentals of that can be
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taught in a lot of sports that lead up to
the abilities to them when that goes goes in. I
understand what you're saying that as young age you want
to deal with Okay to take your hit. I'm okay,
I'm not gonna die. UM. My biggest concern is if
you're gonna do it before that coaching. You better make
sure you've got a good coach that's teaching it the
right way with the right priorities. Also, i'd be concerned
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about burnout too early that you're exposed to it from
completely real, completely real in other sports as well. You know,
like you want your kids, my kids really good at
baseball and you play them on a traveling baseball team
as regular baseball team, like, hey, who would't want to
play baseball all the time? And they're like, man, I
don't know. I just need a break from it. And
I'll tell you this because I get I do a
lot of corporate speaking. I'm asked this virtually every time
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and any airports when I'm coming and going because the
game is under a little bit of tacks concussion protocol
and whatever. It's a great game. I love the game.
But they say, okay, so do you want your grandsons
to play football? And my pad answer has been no,
I don't. And I don't want them to drive dorm ski,
don't want him to date, to cross the street. I
don't want to do anything that they could potentially get hurt.
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But if their passion follows that, I'm going to make
sure that they're coach properly and in this sensance, I'm
where to make sure they have ex tech pads. I thought,
thanks to exte pads and seekick dot com more than
they think. To you, coach bill we appreciate you. Let
to do it very good. All right, that's Brian Billick.
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Of course, of the l A Rams, How are you?
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I'm good? Yeah, okay. So I want to go back
two thousand fifteen with the Broncos. You won the Super
Bowl and that's a crazy year for people who don't remember,
which is Peyton was kind of shot right, The defense
was unbelievable in the second half of the year. That
Hayden starts at the end of the season and then
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you guys win it with special teams, a little running
game and your defense was obscene. Um, what was that experience,
that Super Bowl experience for you? Uh, it was amazing,
you know, And that was my second one. You know,
I remember a lot about forty eight, the one we
lost then more than we won. Um. But the experience
for fifty I was trying to not do the negative
memory thing because that one that one got he was
(01:23):
the first play. That one I got out of hand
real quick. But I think I think the one we
won that the most thing. That Remember, there's nothing more
exciting than than winning for guys like the Markets where
you know, don't get me wrong, I love paying the death.
That is my best friend, that's my dude. But when
it for guys like the Markets were, and when it
for guys like Wade who's put so much into it, um,
(01:44):
you know, that's kind of like what I see now,
like Andrew Whitworth and and Roger Stafford and John Sullivan.
I mean, they've been in the league for a very
long time and never been a chance to be in
this position. So that's kind of how I see it now.
And you know, there'll be nothing better than to win
for them. What about those the benefit for the Patriots
of this is their ninth Most of these guys played
in it last Year's supposed to you guy. As as
(02:04):
you know that first experience, sometimes it hits you, you know,
like a brick wall. How how much does the experience
help a team like the Patriots having played in this game?
I mean it helps. I mean I'm sitting here on
two in a radio row the week we played the game,
because you know, it's my third time playing in and
I know how to lock in and get ready to
go and prepare when it's time to prepare, and we
(02:25):
use that week before to prepare. And I think, um,
I think experience do help, But I also think, what
what what it is is at the end of the day, Um,
when the balls put on a thirty five year line
is kicked off his football and I think our team
knows that they understand that. And um, you know, as
I've told him what you did week one all the
way to what you're doing now, it's the same formula
(02:46):
of winning football. Because that's what it is. That's why
you got here. So if you take that formula and
do it at a high level, But that's not the formula,
to be honest with you, because the formula was Todd Gurley,
Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley, and now it's Todd Gurley in Hey, listen,
c J. Andrews, this has been crazy. Why why didn't
Why didn't what you're doing in l A with a
(03:07):
two headed monster? Why didn't that work in Carolina with
you and Christian mccafford. That is a question for the Panthers.
I mean, when I got in and I saw it,
that was the that was the goal. And the first
three games of the season, for four games after the
bye week, the first month of the season, we were
(03:27):
complimenting and going back and forth and I had a touchdown.
He had three touchdowns at the time we were coming,
compliment back and forth, and then thanks, you know, he
just emerged. I mean he became a special player where
you don't want to take him up the field because
he ketched the ball well out of the backfield. There
are so many different dynamic things that you can do
with him. And I understood that, and um, you know
so many ways I was helping him when I wasn't playing,
(03:47):
Um to try to get him to the player where
he is a day and just give him my little
expertise and um snug from the probo this year. But
Ship had a hell of a year. Yeah, I mean
he had a great, great year. You had the never
Say Die foundation, that's actually your foundations. Did you have
that before you go to Oakland for six days and
then you go with the Rams? Yeah, Dreams ever died.
You know, it's been out to since two thousand and sixteen.
And you know we just provided in the city uval
(04:08):
resources outside of UM entertainment and athletics, and you know,
the partnerships with Harvard and Google and different tech companies
that I have is great and um, you know, kind
of testament to my to what happened to me in
two thousand and eighteen. You know, I grew up an
inn City kid, didn't know my father, um, you know,
and I went through a bunch of hardships to get
where I was to day. And there's no different than
being released from Denver, Carolina and Oakland to put me
(04:29):
in the position never giving up on what I feel
is my dream and what I believe in and trying
to play the game the right way and love it
the right way. And it worked out all right. I
gotta ask you a kind of personal question, how much
did you weigh the first day of the season with Carolina? Uh? Why? It?
It is something that people talk about like did you
have you gained that much weight or do you just
(04:50):
does seven pounds look thicker on your body? I don't,
I don't, I don't. I don't know if it's a
game that the body fat percentage definitely win up like
eight nine percent body fat, which you know that that's
gonna make it look different. I mean, I'm still running
the same I was running when I was in Denver
in Carolina. That's how I feeling, and that's all that
matters to me. I can care care less what I
look like. You know, at the end of the day,
you don't get paid on what you look like. You
(05:10):
get paid for first nawns and touchdowns. And that's what
I'm trying to do. Let you go, Um, what would
it mean to win the Super Bowl again? And look,
winning it means anything, but considering your journey this year,
the biggest thing that I would take, Um, you know,
and I said this on Opening Night last night, my
niece and my nephew for the first two was not
(05:30):
old enough to remember. And when you see like the
Drew Brees picture with his and I, you know, I
got a daughter coming in April, but I don't have
kids don't like my girls, like my kids. But you
see Tom Brady and you know the Super Bowls, he
running and celebrating with his kids and Peyton Manning, um,
you know, with Miles um and his daughter can't get
her name right now, but you've seen that from Super
Bowl fifty. There'll be nothing better to celebrate and running
(05:53):
around like a little kid with my niece and my nephew.
I know you have to run, I said, was the
last one? I lied? What? What? What more? Um? When
you scored n l A in the playoffs? When you score,
I saw girly going crazy, right, and then you know
last week you kind of still to a week and
a half ago whatever you just kind of stole the show.
Is that real? Is that really? Like? Is he really
as supportive of your success as he? The first thing,
the first thing he said when I walked in was
(06:14):
I liked you in Denver. You can play. I mean
he's now I've been a Pro Bowl in his league,
and I've been a top ten rusher in this league
and he respects my game. And I think that's where
me and him comes great because I respect his game
and what he does well. And um, you know he's
just generally happy. I mean, God has blessed both of
us with with with many things that I don't I
don't see healthy all the way healthy. He's all the
(06:35):
way healthy. And what people don't understand is Todd Gurley
is not insecure of his talent. Todd gurley talent is
gonna be top talent every time Todd Gurleys tups on
the football field. So you know, he has no shame
and no and no wave of you know, of someone
else coming in and helping him trying to win the championships.
The Dreams Never Die Foundation go to d n D
(06:55):
Foundation twenty two dot org for more information, or fall
c J on social media at c J Anderson RB
nine again the and the Foundation has its own Twitter
handle d n D Foundation twenty two. There's never been
a better correlation between foundation and production and one season
than the Dreams Never Die. Guy starts out in Carolina,
goes through Oakland and that mess for less than a
(07:16):
week and ends up in l A. And now he's
got a chance to win the Super Bowl again. C J,
thanks so much of your time. Thank you all right,
c J. Anderson joining us here on the Doug Gottlib
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Here, here's what I want
to do, Okay, I want to get to uh the
Anthony Davis and the potential trade to the L. A.
Rams and um and why I think why I think
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you don't move Heaven and Earth all right? And then
and then we'll we'll move back onto her to football.
Here's the here's the thing. Sports has evolved and changed.
It just has, and there is a there's a connective
tissue between all of them. I remember I worked at CBS,
which is if you're looking at our beautiful set, which
(08:02):
is remarkable, I mean, thanks to the folks at Amazon
Fire TV for providing us with this set. It's spectacular.
And I know that you're driving your car or you're
listening to us on any device, You're like, I don't
care about your set. My point is, when you go
to a place like this, you want to have a
cool set so you feel like everybody is fully invested
in your show, and ours is has been the best
(08:23):
in the last two years since I've been here. Anyway,
I used to work at CBS and Phil Simms was
incredibly kind to me. And one of the things that
Phil said to me, which I know to be true,
and I think most athletes know to be true. But
he said it to me and for Phil who at
the time was calling Super Bowls for CBS, and he's like, look,
I love coming on your show because you know football.
(08:44):
And you don't necessarily know football as well as I do,
not having played it, but you know it because there's
a if you've competed at a high level, of you
coached at a high level, there are things you don't know,
but there are things that you know that average guys
who have just been members of the media or civilian fans,
they'll they'll never now. And so but this part, I
think you can understand the connective tissue in competing in athleticism.
(09:07):
You might not know if you didn't compete at a
high level. But what's made the Yankees great, What's made
the Cubs great, what's made the Astros great? What's even
made the Red Sox great? Look? Have all these baseball
teams gone out and spent a bunch of money, sure,
but you know what else they have. They have homegrown
(09:28):
talent on rookie contracts, on cheaper deals. You have to
have a blend of the two. We the the discussion
in baseball is over Bryce Harper Manny Machado and this relationship,
like Abbert Pools, has never won a World Series. You
never wanna. I think he want a playoff series since
he's been a member of the Angels, And though that
supposedly bought credibility and maybe financially makes you dollars in
(09:49):
terms of uh, your local TV and radio ad revenue,
does it bring you a championship which will make you
the most money and bringing the most respected the franchise
The answers no, I mean the the story in baseball
John Carlos Stanton right, that didn't work, and and Alex
Rodriguez when he's in Texas, having that one or two
highly paid stars rarely doesn't necessarily never rarely works. What
(10:12):
what's allowed the San Antonio Spurs, okay, is their star
to be successful for fifteen years. Their stars didn't take
top dollar and they had lesser play play, lesser paid
kind of homegrown guys that made up their last couple
of starters and their bench. It's the same thing that's
(10:32):
helped to go help the Golden State Warriors early on. Yeah,
they had staff, but he wasn't under a big contract
because he wasn't under a big contract allowed them to
reach out and get Kevin Durant, and that went with
Draymond Green who wasn't under a huge contract. And they
have Clay Thompson who's now who's not under a super
max contract. And let's hurt them or what will hurt
them in the future and stop their run is being
(10:53):
front loaded. The Rams are an interesting story because the
Rams aren't built for long term stained success. They're just not.
They went out and traded for Marcus Peters and acquired
to keep to leave, and they went and got in
Dominan sue and yeah, they they're gonna have Todd Gurley
for a long time, but they have to have a
completely new defensive backfield next year. They have somebody's contracts
(11:14):
they're gonna have to figure out there deep They they
paid Aaron Donald. Eventually you're Robin Peter. You know, you know,
if you're if you're going on the cheaper Robin Peter
to pay Paul. But they're not. They're front loaded. And
the reason the Patriots, the Patriots has spread money around,
spreading money around is in all sports, the way it works.
When you're top heavy, you're like remember more Gana the
(11:36):
Kissing Bandit, you're like top That's how teams are bad.
Teams are built. And I look at Lebron James team.
The reason it wasn't sustainable in Cleveland wasn't because it
was Cleveland. It wasn't. It's not sustainable to have one
or two guys making that much money and then filling
in the holes. You have a chance at longer term
(11:58):
success when you have young guys or guys going into
their second contracts that at reasonable contract reasonable deals, and
you do have a couple of stars. That's what the
Celtics have, the Raptors have, That's what the Warriors had,
and that's what the Lakers have right now. They have
(12:18):
a chance. They have a chance to rebuild this thing
the right way. And if they trade Kuzma and Lonza
Ball and Brandon Ingram and zooboch All for Anthony Davis,
which I don't believe is what the actual going rate,
that would be massively overpaying. That would be paying above Sticker,
which nobody even pays Sticker anymore for a car. I
(12:40):
believe that'd be a top heavy team that though it
could be successful in the short term, that's not long
term sustained success. Lebron James is thirty four, he's not
getting younger. And Anthony Davis has shown he didn't have
the ability to carry a team on his own. No
one does. But even Anthony Davis, as great as we
all know, he he has to have other guys, and
the Lakers have other guys. They just simple shouldn't simply
(13:02):
trade all of them away. That is the connected tissue
in sports. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug dot Leap Show week days at noon eastern three
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
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(13:24):
seek geek dot com and you enter s B three
hundred for three hundred dollars off Super Bowl tickets, it
sounds like a pretty good deal. Again, considering the market
and a guy who knows about what it's like to
prepare for and win a Super Bowl and deal with
as a head coach, Hey coach, can I get some tickets?
Hey coach, can I get some tickets? E is the
NFL Network Brian Billick, who joins us, how much of
(13:44):
that distracts a team? Yeah, everybody talks about the advantage
that the Patriots have, and that is one of them.
As a coach, I don't know that you people can appreciate.
Once the game kicks off, it's like a name of
the game you've played, the outcome and the the repercussions
obviously a hundredfold. But it's my biggest concern was from
(14:06):
the minute after we had won the championship game in
this kid, in our case in Oakland, to kick off
of the of the Super Bowl, how we were going
to handle that two weeks. Obviously, the Patriots, which we
ought to call this the New England Patriot Invitational, they're
here so much. They obviously got it down, but they
know they know exactly the pacing once you get here,
(14:27):
practice the distractions, How to hold that at arm's length,
What the pacing of practice should be, the excruciating along Saturday,
the pre all of that stuff. The Rams have to
overcome that. And they've got guys on the staff that
have been in Super Bowls and a couple of players
I think that can draw. They gotta lean on them
heavily to to get the other players to buy in,
to understand, look, you know, don't do this for us,
(14:50):
and just to answer what you're talking about specifically, the
first three days and the administrative staff did a brilliant
job was get it. Let's get it all out of
the way. Travel tickets, cars, hotels. We had it all.
I mean, we had a concierge basically for every player.
Get it all the way because once now, once we
get past Wednesday, the week before, it's got to be
(15:12):
all about football and I don't want to hear about tickets.
I don't want to see anybody distracted because now it's
about preparing for the game. Doug got Leave show on
Fox Sport Trayer that's the voice of Brian billick Um.
Remind me, okay, what I remember about your Ravens teams
was the downfall was twofold because you guys were arguably
since the eighty five Bears, the best defense we've seen
(15:34):
was twofold one. Um, you had salary cap issues, right,
and so you had to you had two part ways
with some really really talented people because you're so good
that the best players had to get paid. And then
to Kyle Bowler, didn't become what you thought we were
gonna be become. I look at this Rams team and
I think, I think Golf seems to be better obviously
than Buller. Should tell whether it's he seems to be
(15:56):
better obviously than Buller. But they might be headed for
that same like it's gonna be a different roster, and
that's the challenge. That's the challenge any teams have. You know,
when you look on the other side of the field
with the Patriots, part of the key is and success
breeds success. You know, it's always easier to earn the
second million the first minute, but it doesn't in the NFL,
right half the teams don't make the playoffs. I want
(16:16):
to get to that in a second. What the Patriots
have been able to do is create a system and
a structure with the authority of a Bill Belichick, is
that they've wrapped themselves around situational role players. They don't
have to have the big name stars, and if it
gets too expensive, we'll cut ways with them. Uh and
everybody would like to build it that way, but that's
hard to do. You're exactly right, and that's why half
(16:37):
the playoff field changes every year. Because the cab we
in our super Bowl year, we extended ourselves the next
year thinking we could duplicate help. We had a lot
of older players, the Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharp's, Rob Burnett's
uh you know across the board. Uh that key came
in the next year. Two years. So we extended ourselves,
which means, you know, at some point you got even
(16:58):
up the credit card, which and every time we extended
ourselves to go from the super Bowl team to the
next year, Ozzy would come in and go, now, you
know what this means for the next year, right, because
because we're gonna be and we ended up being the
youngest team ever in the NFL. The next year, UM
had nineteen rookies on that team because we had to
have the cap Perch Brian Billy joining us in the
Doug Galla. Other thing I remember about your career was
(17:21):
when you came from Minnesota to get the head coaching job.
People were blown away by, uh, your level of preparativeness
and understanding the roster, knowing exactly what you want to
do when you hit the ground hit the ground running
in Baltimore, and this is coming off of a devastating loss. Uh.
In the NFC Championship game. We look at so many
of these new hires that are made guys with no
head coaching experience, but their their offensive gurus. How well
(17:45):
prepared do you think these guys are for what it
takes to run a friendship. Everybody's looking for the next
Sean McVeigh. It's become a general managers league. It's a
little like the NBA now. And that's not a good
thing or a bad thing. It just is the cap,
the authority, the person. It's all general manager. They're all
looking for that guy. Look, we're gonna lock you in
the office, feedure your meal into the door, come out
with these genius game plans. We'll we'll, we'll put your
(18:08):
staff together for you. Uh. And I don't say that critically.
It is what it is. I will tell you this
as someone who has lived in you work your entire life,
professional life. Wanting to become a head coach, you prepare yourself.
You know, whatever side of the ball, you develop an expertise,
all the structures, the coaches, everything you said. You know,
I may be the interview, express my theme vision for
(18:29):
the team. You get the job and you sit in
that for me, you sit in that desk the very
first day and you realize, holy mackerel, I don't have
a clue of what I'm doing. It's it's on the
job training. You have no concept truly of what the
comprehensive job is. Now you learned very quickly, and you
surround yourself with good people like Sean mc excuse me,
(18:50):
Sean McVeigh getting away, Wade Phillips. So that balance is very,
very important. But at the end of the day, it
is the job on the job training that you have
to learn that aspect of it. Why hasn't anybody been
able to copy, truly copy when the Patriots have done right,
like like in any of these other in any business,
any other business, somebody events at, somebody's first in the
(19:11):
look they had the benefit of being first in, but
you copy it. How come no one's been able to
copy the structure of how they do and more than anything,
the versatility of the ability to change game play, game play,
it's week to week, whereas you know, like I talked
to the Charges, was like, hey, why don't you guys
play man against the Patriots? Like what's terrible with man?
We're not a good man? Tamers like, yeah, but the
zone clearly yeah, they was working like that's not who
(19:33):
we are. The Patriots seemed to be the only ones
that I know they're not, but only why can't anybody
copy this? This sounds and I hate when people try
to detach Brady and Belichick and what they be good
is without the other. It doesn't matter. They've been together
for brilliantly for eighteen years. So this is not in
any way criticism. When you can start with Tom Brady,
(19:56):
you talk about the single difference one, you begin with
that secon only like I said earlier, it's he It's
a lot easier to make the second million, that is,
the first million, a lot easier to make the next
million after that than the first two. Once you can
get that integrated and give Bill great credit for structuring
this thing. Role specific players that to avoid the cat
(20:17):
purge the difficulties, will let the high price player go
when he earns himself up to that will fill in.
You know, this guy can't play sixty snaps and win,
but he can play twenty and give us a specific
role in that category. They do a brilliant job with that.
Now you can duplicate that you can try, but you
better start with the presidents of quarterback Tom Brady is
(20:39):
and you better win because otherwise you don't have but
a second or third year to get this thing going. Right.
That's the big thing is he also need the organizational support, correct, right,
and he had parcels that precede him who you know,
loaded up the roster with you know who's But let's
also remember I just did a station in Baltimore and
in Boston that went back to that two thousand one season. Um,
(21:01):
let's remember Belichick was on the way out. It was
he was he had let I forget who it was,
wasn't Tie Law, but he let a couple of players
go being criticized for it. They had not one bled
so uh and all of a sudden, now there's the change.
We're going with the young guy. Now. That could have
gone either way, but it didn't. And then it perpetuated
(21:23):
and went on from there. Show that shows you the
tenuousness of this whole thing. But once it got it
going and they bought in and and uh, you know,
you also have to remember Bill Belichick has spent his
entire professional life, his entire professional life in the NFL,
never coach college ball has always been in the NFL.
That's an incredible amount of institutional knowledge that he brings
(21:46):
to that last thing. And I know you're here to
promote Sea geek dot com, but you'all see you. We're
in the ship for ex Tech shoulder pads. Is the
honest question for you, what's the same age in your
mind to let the kids start playing tech? You interest?
I got grandsons and this is very real. Um, later
is better. The later the better that some kids, you
(22:09):
know what, I would be hesitant to put them in
paths before the ninth grade. My only question is do
you want the first time a kid gets hit to
be like there is something to understanding how to get hit?
Because you can. You can only teach them so much
that they gotta do it right to two things, I
would say, one that the fundamentals of that can be
(22:32):
taught in a lot of sports that lead up to
the abilities to them when that goes goes in. I
understand what you're saying that as young age you want
to deal with Okay to take your hit. I'm okay,
I'm not gonna die. UM. My biggest concern is if
you're gonna do it before that coaching. You better make
sure you've got a good coach that's teaching it the
right way with the right priorities. Also, i'd be concerned
(22:56):
about burnout too early that you're exposed to it from
completely real, completely real in other sports as well. You know,
like you want your kids, my kids really good at
baseball and you play them on a traveling baseball team
as regular baseball team, like, hey, who would't want to
play baseball all the time? And they're like, man, I
don't know. I just need a break from it. And
I'll tell you this because I get I do a
lot of corporate speaking. I'm asked this virtually every time
(23:17):
and any airports when I'm coming and going because the
game is under a little bit of tacks concussion protocol
and whatever. It's a great game. I love the game.
But they say, okay, so do you want your grandsons
to play football? And my pad answer has been no,
I don't. And I don't want them to drive dorm ski,
don't want him to date, to cross the street. I
don't want to do anything that they could potentially get hurt.
(23:39):
But if their passion follows that, I'm going to make
sure that they're coach properly and in this sensance, I'm
where to make sure they have ex tech pads. I thought,
thanks to exte pads and seekick dot com more than
they think. To you, coach bill we appreciate you. Let
to do it very good. All right, that's Brian Billick.
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