THE BEST OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for Doug as they discuss the Cowboys' trade moves after their bad loss to the Cardinals on Monday night. 

Dan and Monse discuss the stories that went under the radar Monday in this installment of "Tuesday Morning Quarterback".

Dan and Monse welcome NFL scout and prolific podcaster John Middlekauff to talk about the Cowboys, Sauce Gardner and all of the other NFL headlines. Dan and Monse discuss the big YouTubeTV/Disney dispute.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Beat me to it. No fair, no fair.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
There was a hut I rated. I gave you a
whole second and I had to jump in Boom, What up, America?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,
that's Monsey. I'm Dan oh Man. No Doug today. Hey
good that for a last out against Kansas. Kansas is Kansas?
Kansas is Kansas? Right that they sold out last night.
In the opening game, Doug was a thirty point underdog.
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, it happens, It happens.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Great experience with kids.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Come on, yes, you can say you played Allen Field House.
Now you move on. You got Buffalo coming up on
Friday exactly not the Bills though, University of Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
To clarify that.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, well we're gonna be talking a lot of
football because it's tiktoktalk, TikTok. We'll get to TikTok later.
NFL trade deadline today, that's right, five o'clock eastern Isaac
lorn Kron, Can you confirm that five o'clock Eastern time
is the trade deadline.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
According to my sources?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, all right, so we are, we are watching. And
I thought going into today's show we would talk about
what happened last night with the Cowboys and specifically against
the Arizona Cardinals. But now we're also talking about what
happened today with the Cowboys. No news yet on the Cardinals.
We'll get to them in just a little bit. But

(01:47):
Jerry Jones willing and dealing like he said he would it? Did?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, is this what all turned into? Getting rid
of Michael Parsons starting all of this? You unravel?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I feel that there's some of the pressure of the noise. Sure,
of course, I'm gonna say it, Manzi, I like, no,
I love what Jerry Jones? Wow, I do I really
do this? This may not seem like a Cowboys sort
of thing. This may feel like it's Jerry falling off

(02:19):
of his rocker. Especially considering everything that he said last
night instead leading up to the trade deadline today. But
I like what the Cowboys are doing right now.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, they're strengthening up their defense. Uh so, but wait, Dan, like,
what did they do yesterday offensively? So you like this?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
They didn't They didn't do much.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
They didn't do one offensive time. So thank you? You
like this move for now? Like, do you think this
is going to propel them to now win a game?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I understand that last night's game is in your most
recent memory.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, it's rough, it really is.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I understand that your your points were being produced via
blocked punt. That's not a great thing. They were dominated
on offense, and I don't know they're dominated on defense.
But I'll tell you what. I like what Jerry Jones
is doing in response to building the Cowboys for later

(03:23):
down the line. I think you're gonna hear a lot
of knee jerk reaction. And last night in the game
against Arizona, where the Cowboys couldn't get off the field
on third down and couldn't stay on the field. To
your point, with their offense, the moves that Jerry Jones
at least made here at the trade deadline, specifically with
quinnin Williams sets them up for more long term success.

(03:46):
I know, edge rushers are the shiny toy, the guys
that get pressure off the edge and sack the quarterback.
And as much as Jerry Jones has tried to tell everyone,
but Micah Parsons against the run isn't necessarily a strong deal.
If you can get after the quarterback from a defensive
line position in interior spot and get after the quarterback

(04:10):
and stop the run, you are much better equipped on defense.
And I think that that's what Quinn Williams will provide
for the Dallas Cowboys with some of the assets that
they got in dealing Micah Parsons to the Packers and Moncie.
They're paying Quinn Williams over the next couple of years
twenty million dollars less per season than what Micah Parsons

(04:33):
is getting with the Green Bay Packers. And so yeah,
I understand that last night, whether you watch the Cowboys
on offense, you watch them on defense, none of it
was good. The only thing that was good was special
teams with the block punt. But we give Jerry Jones
so much flack then when he actually does something that
I think makes sense because I didn't mind the Micah

(04:55):
Parsons deal. You weren't going to cash in at that point.
I think Jerry Jones is actually doing the Cowboys right
by doing this deal. So as crazy as it sounds,
less than twenty four hours after to your point, they
were dominated by the Cardinals. I like the move by
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I think I can join you in on saying that
this seems like a really smart move for the future.
It's just that when it comes to the world of Cowboys,
it's like, what have you done for me lately? And
what are you gonna do for me right now? And
it does look like Jerry Jones is looking for the
future and the bigger picture, which I just feel like
we're not used to that. We're feel like Jerry Jones
doing things for the now right and then maybe pulling

(05:33):
the trigger too soon. This does seem like he's thinking
about the future. But Okay, instead of being ranked thirty defensively,
now you're gonna be twenty five. You're gonna join the
Cardinals that are twentieth in total defense. Like I just
starting the season, I thought the Cowboys were like, you know,
you guys, can score, and obviously you need a defense.

(05:55):
Just talk to the Bengals, you know, I see, I
can I know that, But the cowboy are so up
and down, up and down, Yester. I was like, how
you gonna score one offensive touchdown against the Cardinals who
are figuring things out themselves. They don't even know what
quarterback they're gonna have. Like, how could you only score
one offensive touchdown against this team?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't have an explanation, I don't. I mean, I
could say the Cardinals had a week to prepare. I
couldn't say that, but that's not a good enough excuse.
You're absolutely right. Kalais Campbell is sixty two years old
and he was getting after Dak Prescott last night. I
don't I don't know how he got his wheelchair around
some of the offensive line. He was able to do it.

(06:36):
And sorry, Kalaiais Campbell, he was awesome last night, Josh,
what was awesome? Paying off? Maybe the Cardinals had this turn.
I'll even say this just to move to that, since
I think it's what everybody's talking about, just the fact
that Jacoby Brissett is having this success as a player
that he is having. I think trickles down everywhere, and

(06:58):
not to switch this to the Cardinals, but I think
it's pertinent in this situation. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman
and the broadcast last night by saying, we think Jacoby
Brissette will be the starter when Kyler Murray becomes healthy. Now,
Jonathan Gannon's got a different take on the matter, but
they got a division game against the Seahawks coming up
on Sunday. I'm a Seahawks fan. I would rather see

(07:21):
Kyler Murray right now than Jacoby Brisette.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Absolutely, because the offense actually moves with Jacoby Brissett, Yes,
one hundred percent, but you're you're right. I agree with
that that it trinkles down or it's like it rubs
off having Jacoby Brissett and then Marvin Harrison Junior actually
making some catches and getting in the end zone, which
we have seen so little of Marvin Harrison Junior since
he joined the NFL, that all of a sudden, you

(07:45):
have somebody that moves the ball and then oh, maybe
there is an offense here that we have not noticed.
But the to me, like the Cardinals, I think we
weren't thinking that we're gonna get far even from the
start of the season you were like, I don't know
what we're gonna get with the Cardinals. I think with
the Cowboys there were actual some sort of expectations, especially
with their divisions so much parity and the Eagles not

(08:06):
looking good and then the Giants being a hot mess.
But it's like, no, you're a hot mess still they are.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I thought that they were the Cincinnati Bengals of the NFC. Well, however,
Cincinnati's offense hasn't hasn't stopped, by the way, I'm on
record for saying that months ago. I know it's been
popped up lately. Now that's a disservice to Cincinnati because
they aren't stopping. With Joe Flacko absolutely Now, last night
the Cowboys offense stalled, and.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
The trickling effect you're talking about, you could see it
with the Bengals on the opposite side, where Jamar Chase
after this past Sunday looked frustrated, Chase Brown annoyed because
of their defense. So the same way it's trickling positively
with Arizona and Jacoby Brissett, you can see it how
it trickles negatively with the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I find I think that there's something to be learned
in all of this, and I don't know. I don't
want to bring up I hate comparing the NFL to
the real world, but I do think that relationships in
dynamic play a part in it your performance. And I'm
not talking about you Monty or Isaac or Jason. I'm
just in general, your performance can be affected by the

(09:10):
presence of someone else. And I feel that that is
the case with the Arizona Cardinals and specifically with Marvin
Harrison Junior. And you can say Marvin Harrison Junior, then
is is weak mentally. He's got to be be tougher,
He's got to be stronger. However, remember the game against
the forty nine ers earlier in the season when Harrison

(09:33):
just dropped that wide open pass and then there was
another shot to the end zone that he wasn't catching
and you would expect the top end wide receiver to
make that catch. And then another time in another game,
he runs a slant route, loses control of it and
then it ends up being an interception that all looks
like it's on Marvin Harrison Junior, and ultimately is he's

(09:54):
paid to catch the football. But Marvin Harrison Junior. The
stats last night to me were crazy that the three
targets that he got in the first quarter were the
most targets that he's ever gotten in a quarter in
his career that's lasted a year and a half. Yeah,
these six targets he got in the first half the
most ever. These seven receptions that he had in the

(10:15):
game a career high. And then when you see how
he played with confidence. We even saw in the touchdown
route and Ceedee Lamb is watching from the sidelines on
how how Marvin Harrison cooked Aron Bland. By the way,
not a great job by me defending my Jerry Jones
take by seeing Deron Bland get cooked by Marvin Harrison Junior.
But Kyler Murray, I think had this effect throughout the

(10:38):
team and it really got to Marvin Harrison. With Jacoby
Brissette on the field, Marvin Harrison is not in his
head right now, and so I think that trig goes down,
and I think that trick goes down to the defense
as well. I don't know how the Cardinals can go
back to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
To be honest with you, I don't either, And I
know it's a short sample size, but with all of
those times that you think about Marvin Harrison Junior struggling,
it's like, yeah, the struggle happened because there was no
consistency coming from his quarterback. So how can you get
better if there is no consistency?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And then you see other players where the consistency is
there because they know they can trust each other. And
it was just like the distress was there, back and forth?
How you know what I'm saying? And so it was
crazy when they said that like career high seven receptions
at the half or whatever it was. I was like,
how how is that possible? You just saw Joe Flacco
give Jamar Chase the ball one hundred and seventeen times

(11:28):
and he did not care. He literally was like, where's Joe?
Where is Jamar? He's getting the ball. Everybody knew he
was getting the ball, and Joe Flacker was like, yep,
I'm gonna keep giving him the ball. How do you
not keep feeding your best offensive player and untap the
potential that everybody expected for Marvin Harrison Junior to have.
So it's like, I don't know how you put Kyler
Murray back out there. I really don't unless you're trying

(11:52):
to prove that he's really not the answer. Yeah, unless
you put him back out there on purpose.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
To sabotage you're on the see.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
See what I mean?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
We can't play him, Yeah, and I I think it's
easier to do what they're doing. Now. Hey, we went
to Indianapolis. We were unstoppable on offense. We almost beat
one of the best teams in the NFL, if not
the best team right now in the Colts with Jacoby
Brissett as our quarterback. Look at what we did to
Dallas in front of everybody's eyes last night. Amari de

(12:26):
Marcado sliding down, staying in bounds completely wipes out the
fumble at the goal line. You want to talk about
a change it right? It completely does. You want to
know why? Because he learned, he learned, he understood head
in the range, keep your head in the game. That
is a trickle down effect that starts with Jacoby Brissett

(12:49):
Jonathan Gannon yelling you know, great job, Amari. He used
a different word, two different words. It started with an
F N A Y, but no, and it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're right, You're so right.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yes, that changes. That's all. With Jacoby Brissett. The Cowboys
can only hope to have that sort of momentum.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
The momentum I mean was there. Like you said, they're
special teams.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
There was.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
There was moments of momentum, especially you have a great kicker.
The moments of momentum were there. But man, did they
look bad.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I know Jerry Jones is the topic that is happening
right now, and he's always the topic. But if they
start Jacoby Brissett and continue from this like that, to me,
is is this that bucket? Aikman are like, yeah, Jacoby
Brissett should start.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
That's a pretty strong statement to say when you're in
a spot when you kind of have to be neutral
to everything because you're calling it to have that sort
of voice. I love what Jerry d I know you're
not happy with what the Cowboys you know, are doing
for right now.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm just like, is this going to give you the push?
Because what I saw yesterday you need a lot of pushes.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It won't in twenty twenty five, but it will in
twenty twenty, twenty twenty seven. Where I think is really
where the Cowboys will try to make.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
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Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
No, we only do that the care I do it
what I want.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It is the Doug gott Leap Show. Happy Tuesday, Heavy Tuesday, Grammys.
We're good, it's Colin Cower would say, voting's over. You'll
find out in twenty minutes. Why song of the Year.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
You're good, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
We're done. We're good, Carolina. Mike's got it. He's got
it in control.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
He's got it in control. Clones here today, No clones.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
We make it to that in the press though.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh that's exciting. It's exciting.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's a jam packed hour. You know what. Let's call
it the No Huddle Hour. That's what Steve Hartman does
on Sunday on end Zone Radio.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, it doesn't work right now because there's no football.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, his doesn't work either because they still take breaks
like no Huddle would.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Continue to go, oh yeah, NonStop.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Steve Hartman loved his his naming of no Huddle so
much that he wedged it into the third hour of
end Zone Radio. In our full seven hour block that
we've got he and VJ. Husky do the first four hours.
Me and Carrie Rhoads do the last three hours. Manzi's
at the news desk for all of it, but from
three Eastern to four Eastern it's the no huddle hour.

(15:28):
So guess what no huddle hour. Four Eastern to five
eastern is.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
No huddle hour.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, right now the no huddle hour here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Trade deadline gone. I still think that
there could be some deals trickling in. We thought that
the Seahawks and Broncos were gonna be big players. Seahawks
did make a deal with Rashid Shahed. I don't know
if they were trying to do more. Trey Hendrickson hasn't

(15:56):
been Deltz.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And apparently he was somebody they were willing to.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Hall wanted out after all of his other friends were traded.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Away, tweeted dot dot dot, so there's what about me.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
There still could be some stuff that falls out with
the trade deadline, but Isaaclo and cron will keep us
up to date with that.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, if Breece Hall could somehow end up with the Chargers,
that would be great. That would be great. Yes, we
could use that. We're losing everybody else.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
If you would have had Joe Halt. It would have
made a little bit more sense because Harbaugh even said
that they're not gonna They're not gonna rush back Omarion
Hampton come back until after good bye. But now you
have to say, all right, if we're giving up this much,
we don't have Alt. Now obviously Slater was lost. I

(16:42):
just don't know if you can you can risk doing
anything like that before he was hurt. I think that
it was a realistic possibility. Even if Commandi Vidal had
played well, Bresall would be a better option.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
At this point. You have to believe in curses, right, like, based.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
On what every team is injuries, like the Chargers. I
think that, Like I know, I'm talking to a Chargers fan,
a Chargers fan, a host of the Chargers postgame show.
The forty nine ers say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yes, the forty nine Ers have definitely also, but the
forty nine Ers in recent time have had more success
at least, you know, for the fans, like they've gotten
further than the Chargers have. In a minute, I feel
like there's just more recent success. As a forty nine
Ers fan.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well, it's a Tuesday, let's get more into that, and
what happened last Sunday.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
In Tuesday. This is Tuesday Morning quarterback in the afternoon.
Mondays can be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we
didn't get.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
To on Monday.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Yeah, this is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I'm not diminishing the injuries that the stature of injuries
that the Chargers have faced.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I get it. You're just keeping me in checked that
the Chargers are not the only ones going through injuries.
And you're right, right, poor Baker Mayfield is throwing to
in your receiver every game.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You're right, Yes, sometimes you have a lock, sometimes you don't. Yeah,
So that's that's the way it is. Jason Stewart, our
executive producer.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Be floor is yours. So when you got the news
before this season that Michigan was getting a slap on
the rist, if not any slap on the wrist, and
that Jim Harbaugh his only the only punishment he got
was a couple of suspensions and then he got a
ton of money in the NFL. And I said to you,

(18:33):
you could have solace in karma, bad karma hitting Jim
Harbaugh on the next level. They lost both their tackles,
they've lost almost half their team and they have the
greatest strength and conditioning coach in the history of man supposedly.
Do you feel a little bit of satisfaction in that.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
No, not at all. I don't wish other people to
get hurt. Now it may affect Jim Harbaugh's thatcher as
the Chargers head coach, that doesn't do anything for me.
So it does nothing for me. I feel bad for
Joe Wilt who came back from the ankle spring only
to get rolled up. It was a weird play too,
with what happened in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
But yes, did not look as bad as you've seen others.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, it was weird, like a player coming from it
was almost like he darted across, Yeah, to hit his ankle. Yeah,
it was crazy. I don't feel any any There's there's
nothing that makes me feel good. Jason Stewart about that?
What makes you feel good or bad about what you
saw in week nine? Jason Stewart, You know what.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
So two weeks ago the Bengals eliminated me from my
survivor pool. So the Bengals are dead to me. So
I'm going to contradict my own my I guess my
own thing and bring up the Bengals. You guys all
tell me and don't google this. Has there ever been
a team in the history of football that ran back

(19:55):
a kickoff on the first play that actually won an
on side kick in an era where you have to
tell everybody that you're gonna do an on sidekick. I
think it's like seven or hunderd percent chance they got
an on sidekick and they put up four hundred and
ninety five total yards and lost. Has any NFL team

(20:16):
ever done that? I'm guessing no. If you combine all
three and the Bengals actually pulled it off on Sunday,
and I laugh at them. I laughed, the Bengals are
so dreadful. Good for the Bears, I guess for pulling
off the things that I just mentioned on the other
side of the field. But Bengals, you're dead to me,
and you deserved what happened to you on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Uh. That was the craziest of crazy games you were
on the air day? Was that during No Huddle Hour?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think it was during and you thought it was over.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yes, you thought that game was.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Over until it wasn't. But then it was again for
Cincinnati because they don't know how to.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Tackle, and Chase Brown said as much.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes, I again, I again tripped the guy. I know
that the flag, but at least he doesn't score. Stick
your foot out, do something.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Stop the play, yes, yeah, I yes.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Stop the play. Yeah. I could not believe that.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I said that for as easy as Cincinnati had seemed
to score, like in that situation, that it was maybe
better that he ended up scoring a touchdown because they
would have been in field goal range. Maybe they would
just wound down the clock and kick the field goal.
In the end, Cincinnati couldn't do anything with it. But yeah,
that was that was that was awful. I understand Chase
Brown saying what he had to say. But the next

(21:30):
time Chase Brown fumbles and I'm a defensive player, I
get in line with the reporters to say my piece.
It's like a city council meeting, right Like, I am
in line, I am ready to go, I'm before, I
am going to speak, and I'm going to call out
my running back for fumbling in the fourth quarter of
a game where we only allowed twenty four points. That's

(21:53):
a that's a tough, tough look. I'll tell you what.
You know, what was a tough look, and I don't
think people talking about it enough because again it's clouded
in a victory. But remember Week one when the Vikings
came back and beat the Bears. Yes, and JJ McCarthy
was unreal in that fourth quarter. Yeah, I feel the
same thing kind of happened on Sunday with their win

(22:14):
over Detroit. Like, Minnesota gets this victory and the defense
sacked Jared Goff five times, so Minnesota was getting after it.
But JJ McCarthy comes back, has a touchdown run and
it's and I get this feeling that all right, the
Vikings are okay, But when you watch the game and

(22:35):
you see some of the throws that he made or
didn't make, and I think that there is still there's
a reason why the Vikings thought of Aaron Rodgers, why
Carson Wentz played as long as he did, even with
the injuries that he did. There is still a growing
process with JJ McCarthy, why they brought in Daniel Jones

(22:57):
last year as a backup, all of those reasons there
there were things the reasons why, and I think that
you saw it on Sunday despite the win, that would
justify those.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Moves absolutely, because I really thought that JJ McCarthy was
going to come out and make a fool out of himself,
and I think Minnesota had a really good game plan
to minimize what he had to do. He wasn't great,
but he just did what he needed to do. He
was average, and that impressed me.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
That impressed me. See that wasn't impressed.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Because I thought it was going to be garbage.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, So the fact that it wasn't and they won,
I was like, okay, but yes, no, he was average
at best.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yes, yes, fourteen to twenty five, one hundred and forty
three yards.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Sounds like good for you, JJ.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
You know what's crazy about the numbers you just listed, Dan,
He had the exact same passing numbers in the last
game that he won.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
And the score of the game was the exact same
the mirror images of those two wins, both division opponents.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
That's pretty cool. And then the next week they got
dominated by the Falcons. Now the Ravens come to Minneapolis
on Sunday, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Both are birds or both birds? He was going to
be soaring high.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
All right, that's hopefully those birds don't hit the glass roof.
Remember that theory of the birds, which it was debunked.
The birds thought, yeah, that you could just fly into
the roof. At least I think that was I know,
the boise turf has been debunked. What struck you from
Week nine in the NFL season, Lotzi?

Speaker 7 (24:28):
All right, I guess what struck me is that the
Steelers know how to play defense all of a sudden,
and that they actually may end better than I thought
they were gonna end.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Aaron Rodgers doesn't look half bad out there. Look at
the uncles are playing pretty well this season, from Joe
Flacco to Aaron Rodgers. I really did not expect them
to come out and perform the way they did against
the Colts. They had given up thirty three points of
consecutive weeks, and they kind of went back to their
old school roots of what was it the Steeler Kurt?

(25:01):
What was it called steel Kurt exactly? They went back
to those roots, you know. And Aaron Rodgers is doing
is doing more than I think I was expecting him
to do this season for the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Without the DK METC, without the MEGA, I mean like
they have the.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, he's doing cardio for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Two catches for six yards.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, he's doing cardios.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
It's not good.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Do you have him in a fantasyler?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
No, No, because I've seen I know what the meals all.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yes, yes you do.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it's not meant to be disrespectful. It's just he's
not worth thirty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Although i'd pay thirty million dollars to have his physique,
I probably would. I'd pay one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars if I if I could foreshadow interesting figure. Yeah,
Iowa was Sam. What stood up for you? From week nine?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's the Green Bay Packers, they continued me in mystery.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
In four of their wins, they've scored twenty seven points
and they're two losses. They've scored thirteen and ten. They
have one game, a win over the Steelers, where they
scored over thirty. I just don't get them. They they
seem to just play to their level of competition, although
they have some nice wins and then they have a
tie with the Cowboys. The Packers, to me, their offense

(26:13):
is bipolar. It's all over the place. It's man depressed.
It comes back to Jordan love and listen. Uh Matt
Leafleur uncorked Jordan Love in that fourth quarter against the Steelers,
and he was great. And then they they cough up
a hairball against the Panthers. I guess it'd be the
Panthers coughing of a hairball, but actually they didn't. It

(26:34):
was the Packers. We'll get to the Panthers in So
I'm just perplexed. I don't know what to make. And
it's kind of like Jordan Love's tenure in Green Bay
in general, like has games where he's sensational, these games
where he's just pedestrian and he's sort of a microcosm
with the rest of the team. But like Jason said,
it is kind of just on one guy.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
They deserve to lose. With those uniforms, I just I never.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
The ones that were like brown.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, that looked a little throwback.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
Separate, Separate the color scheme of the pants in the
jersey's front, the helmet which was like the leather helmet
design on top of the shell. Did you guys like
the leather helmet design.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I mean I thought it was done well. I just
didn't like it. Period.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
When Illinois did the Illinois Fighting Line, I did the
leather helmet shell for the first time.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
The leather helmet didn't bother me as much as the
rest of it. Yeah, it was just not good.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Doesn't work, all right, they deserve to lose.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, Isaac long Crown's always working? Isac? What stood out
for you for week nine?

Speaker 9 (27:32):
It's so appropriate that you guys have a segment like
this for this exact subject, because over the weekend and
all time NFL record was broken, Cam Little of the
Jacksonville Jaguars kicking a sixty eight yard field goal, the
longest field goal in NFL history, and hardly anyone has

(27:55):
talked about it, and I find that fascinating. So the
reck that we all grew up with was Tom Dempsey
a sixty three yard field goal for the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Back all of our lives, for all of them, literally
all of our lives.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
Yes, that record stood for forty three years. It was
broken by a sixty four yard field goal, just one
yard longer.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
That stood for eight years. The sixty four.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Yard field goal record, excuse me, that was broken by
a sixty six yard field goal. That record stood for
just four years until Cam Little broke it. So the
records have gone forty three years, eight years, four years.
I wouldn't be surprised if this record is broken sometime
during this season.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, I'll tell you what, And Jason Stewart saw it
last night in that Cowboys Cardinals game, Brandon Aubrey attempted
a sixty eight yard field goal that he missed. So
Cam Little, if you would have made it, would have
had the honor to him by himself for about thirty hours.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
That sucks.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
That's about what it was.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's it. Yeah, when you think about it, and definitely
I'm with you, someone is going to probably hit it
this and it might be him. He hit a seventy
yarder in the preseason, right, that was him?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, correct? So has there been any reporting on why
it's happening? Is there is this the steroid era of kickers? Like,
what's the reason given for this? That's a fascinating question.
I believe.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
I actually asked the Chargers placekicker Cameron Dicker about last year.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
No slash himself.

Speaker 9 (29:23):
Yeah, real name dropper when you're dropping NFL placekickers.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I had a chance to catch you up with Cameron
Dicker a little more than a year ago. Isaac lowing Kron.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
I was tucking with the I was I was hanging
out with the backup lung snapper. Anyway, Sorry, I'm gonna
get a dustpan after dropping that name. I believe part
of it was the increase I don't remember too much
off hm, but the increase in special specialization among training

(29:54):
and coaching for younger place kickers. You have all these
elite kicking camps for people in college, high school, and
even before high school. That sort of specific level of
instruction that you didn't have ten or fifteen years ago.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
You're seeing the fruits of it now. That's part of
the reason.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I think the stadiums in the NFL really helped. And
Ken Little's was on grass, but it was indoors. Eh point, Like,
if you're you're usually not doing that in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh
was always notoriously a tough place to kick field goal.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
You know.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
I was also hanging out with an assistant to the
assistant equipment manager and he was talking about the increased
technology in cleats.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
So yeah, I just wanted to drop another name there.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Well, that's a great one.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
By the way, it still doesn't make Sebastian Janakowski's field
goal attempt from seventy eight yards or seventy six yards.
Excuse me, it's like that's still like a ways, Like
I know we're at sixty eight, but when you see
the I always bring it up whenever we can, the
video of when Lane Kiffin had Sebastian Janikowski take a

(30:58):
seventy six yard field goal, because you have a sense
of how field goals look on TV, and he is
so far away. It is so far away and the
kick didn't come anywhere close. Aubrey's last night was long enough.
It was just off the mark. Jason, I know you
saw it. You were able to see.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
It's pretty much you think about that when he saw it, Jason, did.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You think it had a chance as you saw it
in the air? Jason, Cowboys Cardinals game.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I'm getting more pissed at Disney the more times you ask,
the different ways you're asking me. But I do I
have one question of all the reporting and everything that's
been talked about on talk radio, the like how inflated
or not inflated, or how soft or hard the balls are?
Does that factor into all this? Can they inflate the
balls more?

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Now?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean there are different balls.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
There's kicking balls that are marked with a K and
then separate balls, and I think one of the teams
actually accidentally missed mix them up over the weekend and
that led to a missed field goal. But Dann, when
you're bringing up the Janakowski thing, I don't know if
this is Necessaria plays into it too, But no more
dirt infields that the kickers have to deal with anymore.

(32:04):
And also I think just weight training and conditioning. You know,
back in the day when they were wearing these unibar helmets,
the kickers were these tiny spinly guys kind of running
around out there like the Gary of Premians. But now
there's they weight train and condition just like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
And in fairness, when Janakowski did attempt the seventy six
yard or the infield was filled in, but they were
so far away that the Raiders shield at midfield, they
were on the other side of it, like no one
was on the pate. They were so far away it
was it was crazy. By the way, you don't want
to know what made Tom Dempsey so unique, Monci He

(32:42):
had a club foot, right.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And he was born without as well.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes, yes, so that's he had the record for so long.

Speaker 8 (32:51):
You're talking about the the childhood condition club foot you're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, I think that he was.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
He was born without with clubfoot, right, So I don't
know if that's necessarily the technical term.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Well, so the interesting that the the man who designed,
who developed the technique, the medical technique for correcting clubfoot,
was my buddy's next door neighbor growing up in Iowa City.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
If he indeed had clubfoot as a baby, Hey, Jason,
who's name dropping? Now I'm gonna name drop of the
segment right there?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Will he had a he had a I thought it was.
I used the term, I didn't use it as the
specific medical term.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
So the Ponzetti method is for correcting clubfoot, and doctor
Ponzetti was my buddy Danny's next door neighbor. We had
no idea who this guy was, and he was like
literally saved millions or hundreds of thousands and millions of children.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
And he's next on the.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
If indeed that kicker had club foot as a child,
which is a like a genetic condition, and you inherit.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The people have called my dance moves club foot because
the way I move.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah, my last thing with these kicks in the distance
that we are seeing, does it have I know, like
Brandon Aubrey was a soccer player, right, Cameron Dicker played soccer.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't know if Cam Little did. But is that
the trend that there's soccer players coming to kick now
and it's all of a sudden, is it they just
have the leg for it?

Speaker 9 (34:19):
Well that's a good point because Tom Dempsey was a
straight ahead kicker. So yeah, I mean a lot of
them have these soccer backgrounds now. I don't know in
particular if Cam Little I don't know about was in
a soccer background.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
But yeah, Cameron Dicker, for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I'm having dej vu. You know about barefoot kickers? Right?

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Oh? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh yes, I thought we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
We have like literally, yes, yes we have. Yes, Tony Franklin,
you've shown me.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah yeah, Rich.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Carlos, very good, Rich Carlos who Mike Lanford, Mike Lansford, Yes,
with the Rams, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah yeah, barefoot kickers crazy? All right? Can I just
have one more thing? Yeah, go ahead, Doc.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Don't know more about this technology.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
No, say that Cam Little making that field goal field
goal for the Jaguars them winning in overtime. It would
be you would be talked about even less if they
had lost the game to the Raiders. So the fact
that they won it and then it's still like under report.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
It would have been good from seventy like Justin Tucker
sixty six yarder hit the crossbar and run over Little's
was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely all right. And that's
Tuesday Morning quarterback, Tuesday Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Here you have it your Tuesday Morning in the afternoon
on the done dot ling shown.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Who I know, it was so long ago, we got,
we got. It was a really good Tuesday Morning quarterback.
A lot to hit on included.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
The crazy thing is that Moncey uh Monsey previewed that
she was gonna do the Seahawks and we talked about
everything other than the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah when I had never heard of this segment. I'm
not here on Tuesday, so this was all new to me.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
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Speaker 3 (36:02):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. She's Monte Milano. So
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today, Trade deadline day
in the NFL, joining us to talk about that and
so much more. NFL Insider, former Scout host of the
Three and Out podcast, John Middlecoff joins the program. John,
how are you.

Speaker 11 (36:22):
What's going on? Guys? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
We're doing great. Thank you for joining us. Let's get
into it. One of the teams that has surprised a
lot of people this season has been the Colts, and
they just got a massive boost to their secondary acquiring
Sauce Gardner. What do you make of that trade? What
do you make of what the Colts have done so
far this season?

Speaker 11 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean, obviously they've had a, you.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Know, a tremendous bounce back from the last couple of
years with Daniel Jones. I mean, at first blush, it
seems pretty crazy, right, two first round picks for a
guy that and a wide receiver you just wrapped in
the second round a couple of years ago. That's extremely
you know, had a lot of talent, was cheap. Now granted,
you know they don't necessarily need them because their passing

(37:04):
game is so potent and now hadving Tyler Warren. But
when I see two first round picks, I mean, you
gotta get Jalen Ramsey because we have seen these moves,
you know, with Jamal Adams, when you don't get a
high enough caliber a player, and it's just it's a
disaster now, you know. I obviously they're gonna win probably

(37:24):
somewhere between twelve and fourteen games this season, so they're
gonna be in position. But when you make a move
like this, one thought. Gardner has been close to a
Pro Bowl level guy the last couple of years. And
it's not like it's one of those things. Really are
the coaching the scheme? Oh, it's like he just hasn't
been that good of a player. So he's very specific
in the sense of he makes a lot of money.

(37:44):
Now you know, for the next several years, the culture
gonna be paying him. You know between I think like
twenty four to twenty seven million dollars a year. They
won't have these first round picks.

Speaker 11 (37:53):
He's got to be better than he's been and to me,
to make this warfit that.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
They got to be at least in the AFC Championship game.
Now I get Ballard because he's been in the jobs.
It's twenty seventeen. He really has nothing to show for it.
What's the worst thing.

Speaker 11 (38:08):
They could happen? He's going to get fired.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
He's probably like, well, I was going to get fired
before this year even started anyway, poor Daniel Jones came around.
But I would say, shouldn't that kind of change the outlooks,
you know, for you and the head coach? But clearly
which in one instance I guess you can respect. They're
just all their chips are in the middle of the table.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
The question is this.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Guy good enough player to trade that much for?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
The Jets have been busy today because they also send
Quinn Williams to the Cowboys for a second round pick
in twenty twenty six in a first round pick in
twenty twenty seven. Monty and I have different opinions on
if this works are not for Dallas. How do you
think this move works for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys?

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Well, I guess furth looking at it once you see
the way they structured the they only give up a
second round pick this year. You know it's not getting
Quinn Williams for the next half of the season, like
they're not a Super Bowl contender, but he's under contract,
he's going to be on the team for the next
couple of years, And you go, well, what if we
can nail a couple of defensive players in the draft,
and all of a sudden, our defense is dramatically better

(39:07):
in the year. So, I mean, Jerry's in his mid
ad stacks under contract for sixty million dollars Ceedee Lambs
under contract, like they're kind of being win now mode,
and the Micah Parsons thing opened up more money. You know,
if they if they so choose to, they can resign
George Pickens. It gives them some optionality to try to
be better in uh, you know, in twenty six.

Speaker 11 (39:28):
Because the thing is.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
They're probably not gonna lose enough games. It's not like
they're gonna be drafting three, right, their pick probably ends
up somewhere between ten and fifteen, right, if they end
up winning six or seven games, So the likelihood that
they're gonna get a player with that pick as good
as Quinn Williams, it is probably putting the nuns. But
if they can get a guy to compliments them, or
a couple guys, then you already have a piece there

(39:52):
who I think he would say it's under contract, who's cheaper.
I don't hate the move for Jerry because Quinn william
the high end player at a premium position, but it's
you know, I mean you only got so much draft capital.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Were you surprised of the fire sale for the Jets,
because this is just admitting that they're, you know, cleaning
house and they kind of want to start over for rebuild.
But were you surprised about the fire sale?

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Uh No, not really. I mean that they really stink.
I mean they're going nowhere and going nowhere fast. I
mean they've been losing games with all these guys, right,
So it's one thing if you have a fire sales, like, well,
we've just we've won twenty games.

Speaker 11 (40:32):
The last couple of years.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
I mean, this team is stunk for a long time.
So it's like, Okay, you're trading Sauce Gardner for two ones.
You've been getting smoked with Sauce Gardner, right, Quinn Williams
has been going to Pro Bowls and it doesn't matter.
So this isn't like they just traded their starting quarterback.
They don't have one, and the more options you.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
Have, the more ability you have to get one.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Uh So I commend them for just ripping the band
aid off and nuke in the thing and let's fay.
They got three first round picks and the second round
pick and a Donnie Mitchell who was just drafted in
the second round.

Speaker 11 (41:06):
A year ago. So I would say getting rid of
a bunch of guys.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Now, granted they you know, Quentin Williams was what the
third pick, TODs Gardner was the third or fourth pick.
They used high resources on those guys, but they flipped
them both for a lot, So it's they bought high,
but their guys didn't lose much value over time despite
all the losings. So I guess they have that to
hang their hat on.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
They need to move the draft back to New York
so all the Jets fans can boo every single one
of those picks, no matter who it's going to be.
John Middlecoff joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. She's
Monte Blago. So I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb.
I'm a Seahawks fan. I'm biased. I love the Rashid
Shaheed move with Seattle coming from New Orleans. Where do
you stand on the Seahawks adding a new weapon of

(41:50):
Sam Darnold's arsenal?

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, I mean he's obviously had quarterback carousel in New Orleans,
but he is an explosive player.

Speaker 11 (41:58):
I mean, he can fly. I actually have his stat
page up.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
I mean, seventeen yards of catch, seventeen yards of catch.
This year's not as good, but I mean, look who's
playing quarterback. So I think you put him with Darnold
and Jackson Smith who looks like Jerry Rice right now,
and you kind of get the speed demon on the outside,
the rookie Horden, the running game.

Speaker 11 (42:18):
Yeah. I mean I think this is this is a
sound move right that.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
They keep their valuable picks first, second, third, but you
give up a fourth and a fifth.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
I think is what I saw for them.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
So now, granted, I'm pretty sure he's going to be
he is he under contract next year, so you know,
I think you have to think, you know, if this
goes well, do you extend them? But yeah, I like
the player a lot, and I think from a ski
schematics standpoint, you know, the forty nine ers are kind
of held together right now with duct tape, yea, with
all their injuries. I know they're six and three, but

(42:51):
it's going to be a challenge for them just to
get to you know, ten wins would be a miracle.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, And just your point battle in the Rams.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
So I think you're just kind of trying to you know,
it's gonna come down between those two teams who are
much healthier, and I think they like their chances of
taking advantage of the RAMS secondary.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And to your point, Rishid Jaheed will be a free
agent after the season. But Seattle has shown that sometimes
when they acquire guys, they will bring them in so
they can sign them to those deals. Yeah, so it's
something that John Schneider ends up doing a little more
often than others.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Last one from me, John, What about the Eagles? They
also made some moves to boost their defense, their secondary.
What do you make of acquiring not just Jalen Phillips,
but although he's hurt a lot, JayR Alexander.

Speaker 11 (43:36):
Well, I think what.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
They did is last year they or last week they
acquired multiple corners and they just go like let them
battling out to is better guy. I mean they you
know how he operates a little bit, and this is
to hit his advantage like a GM in baseball. You know,
he just constantly turning the roster. When they have weaknesses,
he'll double down and get aggressive.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
The Jalen Phillips trade makes some sense because Fangios coached them.
He's a talented ed rusher or something they need because
thinking you know, Quinn Williams was a D n not
a D tackle, I would imagine the Eagles would have
been all over them. Right, Joe Douglass now works for
the Eagles, But like they already have D tackles, like
they already have their version of Quinn Williams, they don't

(44:16):
need them.

Speaker 11 (44:17):
So they just took the.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Best available outside rusher. Because I mean, as if we're
talking back to Crosby and Miles Garrett haven't been traded though.

Speaker 11 (44:25):
I mean if I were those teams.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
I probably would unload one of those guys for sure.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, i'll tell you the Eagles. I think the Eagles
need to Brandon Graham more than Brandon Graham wanted to unretire.
But it tells you on what they what they need
to do to get after the quarterback that they went
that far. Last one for you, if you're Jonathan Gannon,
who do you start at quarterback Week ten against the
Seahawks on Sunday.

Speaker 11 (44:47):
Jakobe Werssette without a station.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I think we're all in agreement. There would there be
any reason on why he would go back to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 11 (44:57):
Owner money.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I mean, the organization has been cheap, so when they
do fork out a lot of money, the owner and
that mindset of that family is like, we're paying this
guy X number of dollars. You know what is Jacoby
one year a couple of million dollar contract. Kyler's making
forty five to fifty million dollars. So, I mean, I
think we'd be naive to think that doesn't happen in sports,

(45:19):
because it happens in life and business all the time.
So if it does go back, I do think it's
fair to say it was probably out of the coaching
staff's hands because in what world based on the last
several games, watching Jacoby slaying around and Marvin Harrison look
like his dad, would you turn back to the other
guy who you know they use the what fourth pick

(45:40):
on Marvin Harrison? Him and Kyler have no rapport. Jacobe
comes in and he immediately looks really good.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
We were so shocked over the stat that it was
the first time in his career he had three targets
in the first quarter. How in the world does that happen?
But it happened in Arizona. That's where you live now, right,
John Millakoff, it is, yes, yes, so you get a
first hand look. John, can't wait to talk to you
next week. Have a good one, Man NFL Scout, host
of the three and OL podcast, John Middlecoff joining us

(46:09):
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
She's Monzi Milanios. I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart did not
get a chance to see the Cowboys Cardinals game last night.
There's a reason why. But first Isaac Low and Krown
giving us the latest of what's happening on this trade
deadline day, which I said it was five Eastern earlier,
and Manzi's like, it's for eastern, Dan, it is for

(46:31):
eastern right right, Isaac.

Speaker 9 (46:35):
You bent the laws of time and space. Well, I
only could do the same thing though, for daylight savings
time in the spring, so we don't lose that hour
of sleep.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
That's who I did it for, the people who didn't
change their clocks. That's why I'm like, you know what,
forget Yes, it's for them, It's for that, Yes, Thanks Sam, Sorry, Iowa.
Sam's here.

Speaker 9 (46:57):
Baseball News San Diego Padre Starter You Darvish announced on
social media a short time ago that he had surgery
last week to repair his owner collateral ligament and will
miss the twenty twenty six season. And finally, we have
a Major League Baseball World Championship celebration update. Today, Los

(47:17):
Angeles Dodger Keike Hernandez instagrammed a picture of himself posing
next to an unidentified male who had a Dodger's World
Championship trophy tattoo. And the reason we're relaying this to
you is the tattoo was on the unnamed gentleman's bear
left buttalk. No word yet on the identity of the

(47:40):
gentleman guaranteed one for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I may have come across it. I may have come
across it. I also wondered whose but talk that was?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, I mean search, Yeah, yeah, Dodger butts, Mookie butts.
Very well done, very well done. Be sure to check
out the brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just
searched Doug Gottleb Show on YouTube. Again, that's Doug Gottleb Show.
I hope they didn't get the snot bubble that came
from my nose when Isaac was playing the sound effects.

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last night that you thought from the Cowboys Cardinals game?
What did you see from that Cowboys offense that has

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you concerned if you're a football fan.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
So here's the problem. I was one of the tens
and tens of millions of people who just learned at
four o'clock yesterday that ESPN Plus is complete dog crap.
I know you guys knew this. Yeah, but I think
me and a lot of people just assumed, because we

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feel entitled, that we're going to get our free Monday
night football somehow. That's what most people assume. You know,
they have this little dispute between corporations here, But it's
not going to impact my life because ESPN Plus, right,
that's why we spent the money for working around. Yeah,
and I found out that I'm not going to get
my Monday night football. And then I had to look

(49:19):
for other options because I'm a YouTube TV subscriber. There's
a Sling TV thing and and I just went without.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I just went without.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
So I can't even tell you what the what the
highlight is the physical highlight. I had to follow along
on my phone app and see all my fantasy players.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
It was.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
It was pretty devastated. And then you saw all of
the social media reaction with people in my shoes getting
pissed off.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I'm surprised you, Jason, didn't go to like a bar
or a place to watch it. I'm surprised you didn't
do that.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
It was an option.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, you know what I mean, because you you Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I invited over. Oh said no, Well.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Maybe that's more about you than anything else.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
What I was just gonna say, with all the Monday
night games this year, maybe that one was one was
the one to sit out.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'm just saying I think that's a decent point, and
I think that also in a way it helps ESPN.
But in a way it doesn't help ESPN. I think
Jason's point, because Jason has bombarded us about this is
not only is it because it affects him. Last year,
I was affected by the direct TV discreet you. So

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to your point, you didn't care. Jason's sitting there, you know,
footloose and fancy free. Last year, when Week two comes
along and the Falcons are playing the Titans or whatever
crappy Monday night game they had, then it was different
for us in trying to figure out a way that
how are we going to watch that game? But your
point is is direct TV cable are archaic the old

(50:51):
way of watching TV. Are you really ready to mess
with the new brand of watching that? To your point,
and you're not saying it's a big deal because it's
personally happening to you. You think it's the technology of
it and the first step of it. Is that fair
to say?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
I think Disney is a content generator. Disney produces content,
and content needs platforms. Content needs distribution. I think Google
is going to offer that tenfold over the next ten
to twenty years. I just think it's bad business to
screw up a relationship with Google. They are the future.

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Nobody said last night I need to go back to cable,
and if they did, that was disingenuous. I don't think
people are going backwards.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I don't know if that's entirely true. Because I watch
my cable channels on the DirecTV streaming app. I don't
have like cable, but I have DirecTV and I stream it.
That's how I am able to watch you know whatever,
TNDESPN and all of that. And to me, it's kind

(51:55):
of like ESPN is like, why would we give you
a deal? Everybody else has agreed that the dispute would
DirecTV only lasted so long, So why do we give
into Google? If I'm the ESPN, I'm like, okay, go ahead, bye,
you don't that's fine. See how it works without you
having our content. Because as much as people want to
say that Disney and ESPN are going down, I don't

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think that's true. Disney prices continue to skyrocket. And let
me tell you what, They're still sold out for season
tickets or annual passes.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, it's the bigger it's the bigger picture. Because I
even said that Jason, and what about ABC, right, you know,
But it's all, it's all of that.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
It's all.

Speaker 10 (52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Also, get an antenna, people, just get an antenna.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
You still do that?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yes, my parents, my parents have an antenna. Uh and
sometimes it's better than the real the other one that
the like for local channels. It's better.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, it was on UHF fourteen last night. I think
the game was I knew Isaac would laugh. It was
the only one that I knew I would get a
chuckle out of that. Google, What what are there? Five
trillion dollars or whatever?

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I just I don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
I think like that. The portion of that is, there's
the principle of it. If you give ESPN the deal,
then you're giving everybody a deal. And while you could
probably make up for it anyway because of your value
of your company, you're just not going to do it
on principle. So who should you really really be mad at?

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Google?

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Google? Manti says Google, you say.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You're pissed off at Disney.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
And I'm pissed off the NFL because I think they
could have used their power to force one of them
to put it on their streaming. So if you put
it on the piece of crap ESPN plus, I think
Disney would have gained a lot of favor last night,
but they just there was just nothing and I didn't
have any.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
The NFL is that big, I mean, honestly, of the
Titans that we are talking about here. You think that
they would have enough power to sway it for a
dak prescott against Jacoby Brissett, I do, I.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Don't not even just power. Why get involved? You just
like if you do that this time, you better do
it the next time you have an issue like this. Yeah,
that's it, Like it's a door you don't want to open.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
And I may sound ridiculous when we look at the
TV ratings and we see, you know, NFL, NFL, NFL, NFL,
but just again, we're talking about five trillion dollars, you
know whatever Google's worth this, iowa Sam quickly. I know.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
Listen, both companies YouTube TV owned by Google Disney properties,
they're both very wealthy, and the consumer just loses out
in all of this.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
And when they're trying to be like, hey, come sign
this petition, come.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
Look at what we were so aggrieved, and it's like
stop it. You're both just trying to make more money.
Just figure it out and leave. Just just let us
know when it's back.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I'll tell you what. I'm actually glad it happened because
there's so much peacocking over. I got YouTube TV quad
Box Doug sending us pictures of the screen look at this.
I got this game. Jason does it as well. It's like, okay,
I got my one screen of direct TV. Half the
time Peppa Pigs on, you know, like all right, that's
the way it is. But finally you guys got put

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in your place for once. I think that's my biggest
takeaway it take it YouTube TV a win for the
old school. We're kicking it old school here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, John tweets in,
I cut the court over ten years ago and XM
has replaced cable television for him. He rarely gets you
out out of sporting events because of broadcast disputes. Huh interesting,

(55:24):
all right, yeah, that's one way of doing it. Hey,
if you want to hit Manzi up, hit her up
at Manzy Belanders can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
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