November 5, 2025 • 38 mins
On this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew go over the first half of the NFL season and the most interesting things that happened. Doug welcomes former NFL team Executive and current Business of Sports Podcaster/Writer Andrew Brandt on to talk about all of the storylines from the trade deadline. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. It's the
middle of the week, the middle of the show, the
middle of the the day. We'll get to the midway
up coming. Andrew Brant's gonna join us twenty five after
the hour. He is the host of the Business of
Sports podcast. We got a lot to talk about. Tom
Brady has cloned his dog. Huh. That was my Scooby Doo.
(00:45):
By the way, guys, my Scooby Doo. You know, you
got NBA games, you got some college football. But it's Wednesday.
Is kind of the calm before the oh storm, right,
got college hoops as well, So there's a lot of
potential storylines, but nothing that jumps out at you to
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day other than you know, the Jets kind of fire sale.
If you will tomorrow. You got raiders Denver. Denver's a
talking point. Tonight you don't have much. So let's get
to the midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's time for he stuck in the middle the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man?
What are you thinking of the midway?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I really thought that Jason brought up a great point
that it's it's the midway point of the season, right Jason, like,
this is the halfway points.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
If it's pretty simple of the mouth, there's eighteen weeks
and if you divide eighteen by two, it's nine. So
we just finished the ninth week. It's very simple mouth.
I'm not sure how that could be confused.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I know this one guy who like last week was like,
it's the halfway point of the season right now, you
take seventeen And he even asked my buddy. He goes,
what's half of seventeen? And my buddy was like eight
and a half and they're like, all right, we're in it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Oh man, what a crazy spot right now?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Is the halfway point of the NFL season. I got
zero responses to it. I blame Ryan Smith here for
not responding, I want to know halfway through the NFL
season one of two things. What was the biggest surprise
from the first half of the season or what's the
storyline that you are looking forward to following moving forward
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for the second half of the season. Which one do
you guys want to do.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think they're both game. I think that all work
in this spot. Even when we talked about it last week.
I think there's a midway point. There's things that you
can look ahead and look back to. The reason I
didn't respond was because I thought we decided last week
that we were going to do that this week when
I told you there were eighteen weeks in the NFL season.
So that's why there was no response today, because I
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just figured that this was this was the given portion
of the equation.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Hm, I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season.
I like looking back we can wonder and maybe do
next week and do the lastick the kick of the season.
I just think there's all kinds of interesting things. The culture.
The most interesting they just are.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Between Chris Ballard, their GM, Chane Stike in their head coach,
I think most people thought they were on some form
of hot seat. And remember they started this year with
Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the
fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they
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had Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him,
popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And
when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with
a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dimes
been great, Jonathan Taylor's been awesome, the defense been pretty good,
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Shane Styke is a tremendous play color, and they got
a shot now adding Sauce Gardner to go far in
the AFC playoffs, not just with how good they are,
but how beaten up and how average everybody else is.
I can't think of a more interesting story that's different
than we thought it would be than the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And I think that the trepidation from people or the
people who have some questions about the Colts are the
ones who haven't watched the Colts. They are They are really.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Kicking the Chargers ass right like Jasetu like they they
kicked their ass.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Those better than But I would rather a team turned
the ball over six times than to be U not
be able to do anything on offense, like they didn't
get the running game going, but like they like they
lost the game with seven but it was probably realistically
a two score game. Sure, but to turn it over
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six times means like, oh my gosh, what are you doing?
And I've been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in
the way that they've turned over the ball earlier in
the season. But turning over the ball sometimes, I don't
think is a sign of.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I would have happened for multiple weeks in a row.
It happened three weeks in a row, like, okay, now
we got a proact correct and and and Jay s dou.
I'm not saying the Colts are the best team in
the AMC or that's not a sign of ooh, maybe
the damn is gonna break, maybe this team will come
back down to earth, right. I'm not to say the
question or we were trying to talk about the midway
is most interesting first half storylines. That's pretty interesting to
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me that the Colts, who none of us were like,
if you would have listed your top eight teams or
your top ten teams from the AFC to start the year,
would you listen to the Colts.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
No, it's not a chance.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
I thought stike In and Ballard rock on the way out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, no question. So that's why I would say it's again,
I'm not proclaiming them to be the best team in
the AFC, to be a super Bowl favorite. You know,
there's lots of teams they have better record than. I'm
not sure they're actually better then, But so far in
the first half season, they have shown themselves to be
pretty darn good, shown themselves to be well coached, and
it's the surprise of the year for me how well
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the Colts have played with Daniel Jones that quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City Chiefs,
because I don't feel that we ever really look at
them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one way
or another. Starting of the year, zero and two hots
over super Bowl hangover, then they go and they win
five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City best
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team in the NFL? And then we see them loose
to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier,
if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs
would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four,
so who are they? They don't have a running game.
They don't have a running back right now. Their win,
their best win on the slate is a home win
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against the Lions. It's a nice win you to take that.
Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore win lamar
Get's hurt in the game. Not that they would have
won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore isn't the same.
Win against the Giants is nothing. The Raiders they blank
them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good. The Commanders
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said Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just said Josh
Allen go twenty three to twenty six against them. So really,
how good are the Kansas City Chiefs? They're not a
playoff team if it started today, right, yep? And was
was Sunday not the smallest, biggest game of any weekend.
Like for all the hype that CBS gave it and
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Jim Nantz and Toni Rome did their best to make
it sound big, it was almost like and you kind
of had to take Josh Allen's lead after the game,
he was basically like, we haven't done anything like the
Bills beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
That's what they do. They just never beat them when
they have to. I found that to be interesting. The smallest,
biggest game of the weekend Bill's Chiefs camp.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
It's it's the rivalry in the NFL. And it looks
like it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo,
which doesn't look bad. But when you dig a little
deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo is in pretty
good control for that contest.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I'm gonna say Drake May. I'm going to say the
I'll say the Patriots, but Drake May. Let's focus uber
focus on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As
you guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I
care less about sports than I do about how sports
is covered. I probably follow how sports is covered too much.
(08:58):
I get real bogged down in the we of what
people say about it, and I like to point out
contradictions and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how
the media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay,
So let's go back at the beginning of the college
football season in twenty three. It was like Kayleb Williams,
Drake May, Drake May, or Kay Williams. They were by
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far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come out of
the of the NFL draft.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
It was one and two, which one do you swat?
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And then it plays out and Drake May falls, He
falls out of favor, didn't have a great last season.
All of a sudden, Jaden Daniels has taken in front
of him in the draft. Drake May plays a pretty
good rookie season, then gets eight, gets a Mike Rabels
season this year, and now everyone's saying, hey, if we
redrafted this whole thing, Drake May's at the top. It's
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obvious it's Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways,
and Doug just said he's the MVP last segment. So
I want people to please be consistent with their coverage.
That's all I ask.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Got Doug ad him second in the MVP. He did
pick Josh Allen over him, but more so than Patrick
Mahomes from what the odds are saying. But yeah, you're
absolutely right. How about the Ryan Poles piece that came
out where he put together that that basically disc clip
of Drake May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he
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so wanted to take Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I love that little nugget that we got entering this season.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And now and now, by the way, do we know
if you would take Caleb Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams
because that was the discussion this whole last auction.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
End of the season.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, absolutely, right now are we so sure that we
want to do that?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And you know what people are saying, Well, of course
you don't take Jade Williams because he's not he's not available.
I thought coming out of college he was the guy
that was too thin and too weak. I thought that
was the knock on him. Now you're gonna knock him
for being unavailable? What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
They last year was just such a funky year for
the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I have I got a couple other first half of
the season, the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story.
And it's a big story because, look, we've talked about
about Tua over the years, the six years he's been in,
the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel
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escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right. He was cool.
He's like a hipster coach he's got the glasses, he's
got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's
kind of got swagged to him. Whatever has happened, there
has been an abject disaster and his GM has already
been fired. I don't know what they do. It too.
(11:50):
It going going forward, and reports now are that he's safe,
but I can't see it that the season has then
well him him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the
snapshot of what the league may people think the league
may look like in ten years to being the first
coach out that downfall has been passed.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Why would McDaniel's job be safe if they bring in
a new GM. Isn't he just going to pick a
new head coach. Isn't that they're training of thought or
they're actually gonna keep the head coach?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't
think it's safe. But they have said, and they've leaked
to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike mndane
A're gonna be safe. Like what are they gonna say,
you know, if you say hey could be coaching his job?
Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, But it's the public statement.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than
Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work
rather than.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Let go if people like man remember the stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look
for your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with
now is this team for the next eight weeks?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about
the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, He's a big Raiders guide.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yes, I want need to know how in the world
did the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
How how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You got throughout Week one results?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, Like how.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
There?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'll tell you what Survivor pools. I was on New
England week one, lost one of my entries. They played
a good half against the Raiders and then the Raiders,
for whatever reason, outclass them. Gino what threw for like
three hundred and seventy yards. There was no Christian Gonzales
for New England at that point. Then the next week
the Patriots got into a bit of a shootout against
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the Dolphins. That was a close contest, but New England
ends up winning it in the end. So New England
was close to maybe starting the year zero to two
with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins, and now they're
sitting there seven and two atop the conference. And honestly,
I don't want to say look unbeatable, because they could
have very well lost to the Falcons, but they were
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in control of that game against Atlanta and now look
like a formidable opponent that come playoff time. Speaking of
the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean, we
love Bejon Robinson, we love the running game. That division
looked like it was up for grabs, and then they
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play on Monday Night and they have a dominating win
against the Buffalo Bills, and then you just throw in
a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the map
this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there at
three and five, And.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. I can't
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Cedar Sinai, But no, Dan Byer is going to join
us for an update in the moment, it's fighting through.
Is it a voice thing or is it a cold?
I got a little I can't tell if it's cold
(15:27):
something annoyance. It's getting cold outside here, Dan, So I'm
a little a smidge.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Under the weather.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But you've had more of a voice.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on the other
end of it. It actually kind of I had a
sore throat last week and then Friday is when my
voice really kind of started to go south.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So, oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I woke up with a sore throat today.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
That's oh, that's the start of it. Yeah, that's for me.
Throat is always step one.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But we haven't made out in weeks, so I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Know, An, do you think we could?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
We could, I could get it microphone, the microphone YouTube.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Sure, I'm not sure. Let's try right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Uh, let's let's not all right, Let's let's maintain our
social distancing. We'll get up dated from Dan in a second.
Andrew Brand joins us from executive with the pastor at
Packer's host of the Business of Sports podcast on the
DraftKings Network. He writes a comm at SI dot com
and authors the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, thanks so much
(16:29):
for joining us. Give me the financial implications, if you would,
of the Jet the Jets, uh, the old fire sale
taking place. Quinn Williams gone and Sauce Gardner gone draft
picks in return. But what are the financial implications of
such trades?
Speaker 9 (16:45):
Well, when you move on from a player with a
big number, you're going to take a hit on the cap. Obviously,
the cash goes away, so everything's been paid. Is now
the obligation of the cults and the cowboys what's do
on those contracts? But the it will be in terms
of leftover accounting from the cap circumstances. But you know what,
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it's not too terrible with these young players and the
hits that for what they did with these extensions, it's
in the thirteen to twenty range for each of them.
And that's in this day and age. It's not a
ton of debt money. Let me just say this about
the contract though, especially Gardner. They structured Gardner's contract. When
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you do a big extension for a top player usually
given them big time bonus like thirty forty fifty million dollars.
It only gave a relatively modest bonus to Gardner of
thirteen million dollars. Now, they did part with that earlier
this year, but it's an option bonus in twenty six
for twenty plus million dollars. And that tells me like
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they wanted to keep their options open with this guy,
and the agent's acquiesced that. And it's very interesting to
me that Gardener would accept one of these contracts without
that huge upfront bonus and putting it into the second year,
which gave them optionality on this deal. And Doug, I'll
say really quickly, I am not a fan of the
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Jets and their personnel moves, but I like these deals.
I think they maximized value for these two players. They're
not going to be very good for a while. This
team is going to be awful, but they maximize value
for these two trades.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, and you know, you get rid of those salaries.
And my guess would also be they load up to
try and get a quarterback and they probably use the
rest of the picks, you know, to get more picks
to get guys outside of the first round where you
don't have to pay as much money and the hit
rate is only slightly lower. Right, seems like an interesting
It seems like a logical business plan when you're going
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to scrap it and start all over, is it not?
Speaker 9 (18:49):
It does, And we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute.
But the cults, you know, it's one of these low
margin for error deals like hed better be Yep, Gardner
a top pick of number two three corner in the NFL.
I mean I'm looking at two number ones. I'm thinking
quarterbacks Michaeh Parsons, Miles Garrett and not many others. You know,
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two number ones? Wow, maybe certain, but that is just
you better be he better be not as good, he
better be all pro good?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Now going to Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
I just don't get it. You know, when I say
two number ones for Gardners seemed high, it seems like
a one in a two for Williams seems really high.
They got Kenny Clark as part of the Parsons trade
to shore up the middle of that defense, and it's
been awful. So now they get a similar type player.
They're not addressing the pass rush. They're not addressing the
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slow linebacker corps. They're going to have a bad defense
with or without Quinn Williams. And then you look at
the whole total haul with the two trades. So they
give away Micah Parsons and you know, they get back
Quinn Williams and now only one number one pick and
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Kenny Clark. It's just I just don't get it with them.
I know that Jones likes to create a stir wherever
he goes, but they are not fixing their weakest link,
which is pass rush and secondary coverage. And they have
two space heating defensive linemen out of these trades, but
that doesn't seem to be doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Andrew Brandt joining a former executive with the Packers, host
of the Business of Sports podcast. He writes the column
at SI dot com. He authors the Sunday seven newsletter.
Here's they get it. You go to my Sunday seven
dot com to sign up. That's my Sunday seven dot com.
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's sprinkle around a cup more in the league.
(20:59):
What are your thoughts of the Bengals and Hendrickson.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
I don't get why they didn't move him, and they
obviously they didn't because they didn't feel they got good value.
But he's a free agent, so you're not going anywhere
this year. You've got the worst defense in the league.
Why not get something he's not staying. I would put
a stake in the ground, as you would, that Trey
Henderson is not going to be a Bengal next year
as a free agent. So I just don't get it.
(21:25):
Like take a third round pick, take a fourth round pick.
I mean, you're not going anywhere. I thought that would
be a surefire trade. I don't get it. The Bengals
defense is historically bad, and but for that, Doug, we'd
be talking about Joe Flacco like among MVPs if they
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had won these games that where they gave up forty
five points. I mean, it's just it's a tough situation
in Cincy.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh, it is really a tough situation. Did you like
the Sam Donald move signing when it was signed?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
I did, And I even thought the Vikings could I
guess I would say should have bit the bullet forty
million dollar franchise tag while still developing McCarthy coming off
a ACL so I kind of thought the Vikings would
do that and then he was out forbid. And I
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thought Donald would be an upgrade over Gino Smith. I've
been proven right there. I didn't think Gino would be
this bad on the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I did not. I didn't think, you know, it would
be particularly good with the Raiders. I didn't think he'd
be this bad with the Raiders. He'd been nothing but solid,
nothing but solid. Okay, let's get back to the Colts.
Would you redo, would you extend Danny Dives?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
You know what I said about the trades, Doug, is
that this is the best things possible for Danny Daniel Jones,
because what you use those two number one picks for
is quarterback. Now. I know they whiffed on Anthony Richardson,
but they would go after it again. So to me,
that is either a franchise tag or another big time
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deal for Daniel Jones. We already got one with the Giants,
and I don't know if I'm sold. I get it,
I get it before last week. He's an MVP candidate.
I just don't know if I'm sold into. You know,
when he did it with the Giants, Doug, it was
a forty million dollar market. Now it's a fifty five
to sixty million market, which he'd be in his in
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his rights to ask for. So I guess I'm predicting
a franchise tag. I just don't see a sixty million
a year for Daniel Jones. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Have you you're part of the Packers. Have you been
a part of or seen a Packers team like this
one where kind of plays the level of competition. The
good teams they played well. The bad teams they seem
to play down to the level of competition.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Yes, still fans still close with people out there. It's
a scratcher head the two they've lost two games this
year to the worst two teams they played. It's just
head scratching. I'll say it again. They've lost their two
games this year to the two worst teams they played,
and they just dominated the Steelers who beat the Colts
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at the same building. So it is curious. I think
there's a you know, there's a play with their food
sometimes mentality with the Packers. It just seems like they
have so much talent, even losing craft. They're getting back
Jayden Reid. They have three or four dynamic receivers and
of course Jacobs and of course Love who I'm still
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even after that horror harble one pass I is still
a big fan of Jordan Love. So I'm still high
on the Packers along with the Eagles in that conference.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, Packers and the Eagles next Monday night at Lamba,
and it should be an absolute show. Should be should
be a good one. Remember you need to go and
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(25:17):
Of course, you can read this stuff at SI dot com.
Butt's go to my Sunday seven dot com. Andrew, thanks
so much.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
For joining us.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, see you guys see the story about Tom Brady
and his dog. He cloned his dog. The first thing
is you have to establish yourself. Ryan. You can tell
us Chase Doe. I know, Jason, you don't have a dog. Buyer,
you don't have a dog. Ryan, I don't know if
you have a dog. I don't know. I used to Okay,
(25:46):
are you a dog guy?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yes? Yes, I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, Uh, what about you there, damn by, are you
a dog person?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
We don't have a dog.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It's such a it's such a You're putting me in
such an awful spot because when you say someone's not
a dog person, they're looked at as the most evil
people in the world. So oh oh, come on, if
you just say that you're not a dog person, nothing
of anything against dogs, Just like I'm not a dog person,
you are put into a category.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You like you are. You are banished.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
You might as well be Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, yeah, Dan, I love you. I think you're overreacting.
I I think I asked it in a very fair
way because I think it's fair to say, Like what
you don't go is like I hate dogs. You go like, hey,
I'm just not a dog person. I got a kid,
I got a job, wife's got a job, like you know.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, I don't think that flies like, am I right?
Like with some people? Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just again there there there are death. There are always
crazy people who love what they love and think everybody's
crazy if you don't love them. I am not that guy.
I'm not that person.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I have three currently, it's probably one too many. Now.
I'm not gonna off any of them. It's just where
we are right now. I love dogs, I love cats.
I don't lessari. I love cats. I like having a cat.
Having a cat's easy, they're super easy. But I don't
currently have one, and I totally understand that there's lots
of people like I don't cats. I don't know, they
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just they kind of do their own thing. I'm not
into them. I like a dog, and then some people like,
I don't like dogs. They get in your face, they smell,
they stick up your house, they do have things, and
they're expensive. So no, it's okay, it's okay if you're
not into having dogs. You just got like, I'm not
really a dog person. Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I think there's I think there's baseline, and I think
that there's then dog people.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So I'm a dog person. But I am not judgmental
at all of people who don't like dogs. My view
of people who don't like dogs as much like my
my view of people who are who are gay. Okay,
there's more options for me.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That's the way I like the apples. But I have
no idea where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I think what we need to do is we need
to go to say, Jason, are you a dog person?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Jason, are you a dog? I know Jason's not a
dog person.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Oh yes, no time. Yeah, they just lost one unfortunately,
that's right. Yeah, topic there.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Do you want your dog that you had to put down, which,
by the way, is the most traumatic thing ever ever?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Do you want your dog? Do you want to be cloned?
Like Tom Brady's dog was cloned?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
No, I'm creeped out, but I'm creeped out by this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
The whole thing is creepy. Let's just be honest. Like
Tom Brady, he looks like he's had plastic shirdery done.
Is that? Does anybody dispute that? I don't know it
for a fact. I'm not accusing him of it. I'm
saying what it looks like to somebody who's not as
good looking as he is. Is that is that fair?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's fair?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah? Yes, okay, yeah, I'm again, this is not me defaming.
Oh he's all he's addicted to. I don't know if
he had nip tucks done. I don't know if he
just has botox. I don't know how any of that
stuff works. I'm ugly and I'm gonna have to live
with it. That's the way it is. I do think
it tracks with everything else with Tom Brady. I just
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do like he's that guy. He's that guy that wears
a suit on the sidelines to go shake hands and
take pictures of people before an NFL game. Nobody else does.
It's like he's classically overdressed. He has to seemingly look perfect.
His teeth. It looks like every day is a whitening
stripp day. And the fact that he had a dog,
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and I like that to like, you kind of clone
a dog anytime you have a dog that's from a
breeder anyway. You know the why am I blanking on
the name? What's the great comedian?
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He hated all of societal norms? Am I thinking, oh geez, oh.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh, that's every comedian that narrows it down there?
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Dog?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Thanks, that was terrible. No, white guy, white guy passed.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Oh yeah that guy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
White guy passed away. Older. Oh come, George, George Carlin.
George Carlin would a had it had a bit where
he said, like, you know, think about it.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Die.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Everybody makes that to be the dog, but you can
literally take your dog when it is dead, put it
up on the counter, goes, I love this dog, Give
me one just like it, and then both you get
one just like it. Tom Brady took that to the
next step, like, you know, I want to just I
literally want the dog just like it. I would love
to know if the dog behaves, has the same name,
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responds to the same commands, didn't have to be trained,
or was trained the same way. It's creepy as.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Hell pet cemetery, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Oh, it's a good movie.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's creepy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't love creepy, but okay, I mean I have
Twinny and Cold at night. Maybe does anybody think this
is a cool story, a normal story? Does anybody like
the story? Or is everybody creeped out by it? Like
me and Jason are.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't think it's cool. I just don't not as
it's a world that I don't relate to.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, that's fair. It's like it's like rich people stuff
like yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it's
like to have Nanni's.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Like when when Brady I put out obviously he made
the announcement to also endorse this company that I'm guessing
he has a stake in, and ye, it adds to
the dirtiness the whole thing. But this is one of
the bylaws or one of the things that Colossal, the
company that cloned his dog, sells to the public. They
aim to fix extinction, and to me, that just just
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it's so unnatural to me that I'm I'm just kind
of diametrically opposed to that concept. Just let let human
life and other living beings go the way where they're
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Please, Yep, yep, I think that's totally fair, totally fair.
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Speaker 4 (32:44):
The Press The Press Doug Day after the NFL trade deadline,
the Arizona Cardinals are making moves with their own players,
including quarterback Kyler Murray.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Today, Kyler is going to go on ir feel like
that's the best thing hamming for us. He's not fully
healthy ready to go yet, so that makes the most
sense right now. What he's going to concentrate on is
getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Out with that foot injury. So Jacoby Brissett continues to start,
and he'll start for at least the next four games
for Arizona.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Huge opportunity for Brissett. And what's crazy about it is
it does hide a little bit of the announcement earlier
this week where Brissette was going to start regardless of
Kyler Murray's health. So will Kyler Murley ever start a
game for the Cardinals again? That is tb D.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
The stretch of games that Arizona has as well, We've
mentioned this Sunday, they're in Seattle against the Seahawks. They
then have the Niners at home home against the Jaguars
and at Tampa Bay. So three out of those four
pretty big games when you're trying to talk about getting
into the playoffs against the three potential playoff teams four
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if you want to count Jacksonville but AFC Eyes. You know,
those games are kind of whatever at times, but that's
where we are. And then if he doesn't come back
after the four weeks, they've got a game against the Rams.
So that's what's up next for the Arizona Cardinals Commanders
head coach Dan Quinn till the reporters today, they're still
evaluating on how to proceed with Jayden Daniel's elbow injury
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suffered against the Seahawks on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What do you mean they had to proceed he had
a dislocated ebo. Oh, how to how when to play him,
when not to play him?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I think the procedure, what is all going on? I
think they're getting other opinions on what actually happened with
the injury, So right now they still don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Three days later, Yeah, I mean, it's gruesome, but it's
his left elbow, don shoulders throwing elbow. I would just
say this if they're getting other opinions. That means that
the primary opinion they've gotten is not a favorable one.
(35:01):
Remember this is I'm gonna coin this phrase. I'm sure
somebody else smarter than me said it. No one ever
gets the second opinion on good news.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
There's gonna come a point where the Commanders probably fall
far enough back in the playoff race. I mean, right now,
there's only two teams with the worst record than they
have in the NFC. Sure, so they're gonna I mean,
if he isn't already shut down for the season, which
he should be, that's going to happen. Here's my question
for you. The Bengals are three and six, just like
the Commanders, and what time does Cincinnati say, all right,
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Joe Burrow, you don't have to return this year. I
think that there was a point when Joe Burrow got
hurt that we all thought, oh, yeah, of course, Joe
Burrow's gonna come back in mid December. And that's why
they got Joe Flacco and they won a game here
and they're in the thick of it. But the Cincinnati
is now starting to teeter a little. They got to
buy in Week ten, but I don't think there's any
guarantee we see Joe Burrow again this season.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't think we'll see him again this season. I
think that's probably part of the plan. I just don't
think they're's in on the plan.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Bill Belichick is one of nine former NFL head coaches
who advanced to the semi finals in balloting for the
Hall of Fame. Mike Shanahan, Tom Coughlin, Mike Holmgren, who
was put on the ballot last year but did not
get enough votes to go in.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Are other finalists amongst the.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Nine give me give me the Homegren.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Who else there's so there's yeah, there's Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren,
Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick, Chuck Knox. I believe George Seffert.
I think Marty Schottenheimer's on that that list as well.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
When Belichick has to go in has to and I
would say the other one you'd probably put in, Well.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
They'll only be one. But that's that's the thing is
Holmegerd should have got in last year. Somehow he didn't.
They put him in, and now you're like, all right,
is he not good enough this year? And obviously it
would be weird to put Belichick in, all right, Doug,
how about.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The college It would be weird to put Belchick in?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Well, but no, I mean it would be no, it
would be weird to not It would be weird to
not put him in. With the six Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Right right, right, right right right, even though maybe I've
missuched that. I thought you said it'd be yes, the
order would be weird right home, great should have gone
in this year, last year, then Belichick goes in this year.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It's totally yeah, like that's weird, but yeah, it's also
weird to be like, Okay, here's the winningest coach of
all time and we're not going to put him in
right away.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Like that's that. The whole thing is kind of a
mess anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
College football, Auburn Notre Dame gonna play a home and
home series, get this, in twenty twenty seven. The game
is going to be played in South Bend twenty twenty eight,
late October at Auburn. So Notre Dame filling up their schedule.
Maybe bye by USC, Hello Auburn. But Auburn and Notre
Dame have a home and home and that's the press
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that get out there and press.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. It's the
middle of the week, the middle of the show, the
middle of the the day. We'll get to the midway
up coming. Andrew Brant's gonna join us twenty five after
the hour. He is the host of the Business of
Sports podcast. We got a lot to talk about. Tom
Brady has cloned his dog. Huh. That was my Scooby Doo.
(00:45):
By the way, guys, my Scooby Doo. You know, you
got NBA games, you got some college football. But it's Wednesday.
Is kind of the calm before the oh storm, right,
got college hoops as well, So there's a lot of
potential storylines, but nothing that jumps out at you to
(01:06):
day other than you know, the Jets kind of fire sale.
If you will tomorrow. You got raiders Denver. Denver's a
talking point. Tonight you don't have much. So let's get
to the midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's time for he stuck in the middle the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man?
What are you thinking of the midway?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I really thought that Jason brought up a great point
that it's it's the midway point of the season, right Jason, like,
this is the halfway points.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
If it's pretty simple of the mouth, there's eighteen weeks
and if you divide eighteen by two, it's nine. So
we just finished the ninth week. It's very simple mouth.
I'm not sure how that could be confused.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I know this one guy who like last week was like,
it's the halfway point of the season right now, you
take seventeen And he even asked my buddy. He goes,
what's half of seventeen? And my buddy was like eight
and a half and they're like, all right, we're in it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Oh man, what a crazy spot right now?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Is the halfway point of the NFL season. I got
zero responses to it. I blame Ryan Smith here for
not responding, I want to know halfway through the NFL
season one of two things. What was the biggest surprise
from the first half of the season or what's the
storyline that you are looking forward to following moving forward
(02:38):
for the second half of the season. Which one do
you guys want to do.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think they're both game. I think that all work
in this spot. Even when we talked about it last week.
I think there's a midway point. There's things that you
can look ahead and look back to. The reason I
didn't respond was because I thought we decided last week
that we were going to do that this week when
I told you there were eighteen weeks in the NFL season.
So that's why there was no response today, because I
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just figured that this was this was the given portion
of the equation.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Hm, I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season.
I like looking back we can wonder and maybe do
next week and do the lastick the kick of the season.
I just think there's all kinds of interesting things. The culture.
The most interesting they just are.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Between Chris Ballard, their GM, Chane Stike in their head coach,
I think most people thought they were on some form
of hot seat. And remember they started this year with
Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the
fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they
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had Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him,
popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And
when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with
a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dimes
been great, Jonathan Taylor's been awesome, the defense been pretty good,
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Shane Styke is a tremendous play color, and they got
a shot now adding Sauce Gardner to go far in
the AFC playoffs, not just with how good they are,
but how beaten up and how average everybody else is.
I can't think of a more interesting story that's different
than we thought it would be than the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And I think that the trepidation from people or the
people who have some questions about the Colts are the
ones who haven't watched the Colts. They are They are really.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Kicking the Chargers ass right like Jasetu like they they
kicked their ass.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Those better than But I would rather a team turned
the ball over six times than to be U not
be able to do anything on offense, like they didn't
get the running game going, but like they like they
lost the game with seven but it was probably realistically
a two score game. Sure, but to turn it over
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six times means like, oh my gosh, what are you doing?
And I've been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in
the way that they've turned over the ball earlier in
the season. But turning over the ball sometimes, I don't
think is a sign of.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I would have happened for multiple weeks in a row.
It happened three weeks in a row, like, okay, now
we got a proact correct and and and Jay s dou.
I'm not saying the Colts are the best team in
the AMC or that's not a sign of ooh, maybe
the damn is gonna break, maybe this team will come
back down to earth, right. I'm not to say the
question or we were trying to talk about the midway
is most interesting first half storylines. That's pretty interesting to
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me that the Colts, who none of us were like,
if you would have listed your top eight teams or
your top ten teams from the AFC to start the year,
would you listen to the Colts.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
No, it's not a chance.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
I thought stike In and Ballard rock on the way out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, no question. So that's why I would say it's again,
I'm not proclaiming them to be the best team in
the AFC, to be a super Bowl favorite. You know,
there's lots of teams they have better record than. I'm
not sure they're actually better then, But so far in
the first half season, they have shown themselves to be
pretty darn good, shown themselves to be well coached, and
it's the surprise of the year for me how well
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the Colts have played with Daniel Jones that quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City Chiefs,
because I don't feel that we ever really look at
them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one way
or another. Starting of the year, zero and two hots
over super Bowl hangover, then they go and they win
five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City best
(06:52):
team in the NFL? And then we see them loose
to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier,
if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs
would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four,
so who are they? They don't have a running game.
They don't have a running back right now. Their win,
their best win on the slate is a home win
(07:14):
against the Lions. It's a nice win you to take that.
Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore win lamar
Get's hurt in the game. Not that they would have
won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore isn't the same.
Win against the Giants is nothing. The Raiders they blank
them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good. The Commanders
(07:36):
said Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just said Josh
Allen go twenty three to twenty six against them. So really,
how good are the Kansas City Chiefs? They're not a
playoff team if it started today, right, yep? And was
was Sunday not the smallest, biggest game of any weekend.
Like for all the hype that CBS gave it and
(07:58):
Jim Nantz and Toni Rome did their best to make
it sound big, it was almost like and you kind
of had to take Josh Allen's lead after the game,
he was basically like, we haven't done anything like the
Bills beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
That's what they do. They just never beat them when
they have to. I found that to be interesting. The smallest,
biggest game of the weekend Bill's Chiefs camp.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
It's it's the rivalry in the NFL. And it looks
like it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo,
which doesn't look bad. But when you dig a little
deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo is in pretty
good control for that contest.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I'm gonna say Drake May. I'm going to say the
I'll say the Patriots, but Drake May. Let's focus uber
focus on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As
you guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I
care less about sports than I do about how sports
is covered. I probably follow how sports is covered too much.
(08:58):
I get real bogged down in the we of what
people say about it, and I like to point out
contradictions and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how
the media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay,
So let's go back at the beginning of the college
football season in twenty three. It was like Kayleb Williams,
Drake May, Drake May, or Kay Williams. They were by
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far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come out of
the of the NFL draft.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
It was one and two, which one do you swat?
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And then it plays out and Drake May falls, He
falls out of favor, didn't have a great last season.
All of a sudden, Jaden Daniels has taken in front
of him in the draft. Drake May plays a pretty
good rookie season, then gets eight, gets a Mike Rabels
season this year, and now everyone's saying, hey, if we
redrafted this whole thing, Drake May's at the top. It's
(09:50):
obvious it's Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways,
and Doug just said he's the MVP last segment. So
I want people to please be consistent with their coverage.
That's all I ask.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Got Doug ad him second in the MVP. He did
pick Josh Allen over him, but more so than Patrick
Mahomes from what the odds are saying. But yeah, you're
absolutely right. How about the Ryan Poles piece that came
out where he put together that that basically disc clip
of Drake May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he
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so wanted to take Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I love that little nugget that we got entering this season.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And now and now, by the way, do we know
if you would take Caleb Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams
because that was the discussion this whole last auction.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
End of the season.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, absolutely, right now are we so sure that we
want to do that?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And you know what people are saying, Well, of course
you don't take Jade Williams because he's not he's not available.
I thought coming out of college he was the guy
that was too thin and too weak. I thought that
was the knock on him. Now you're gonna knock him
for being unavailable? What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
They last year was just such a funky year for
the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I have I got a couple other first half of
the season, the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story.
And it's a big story because, look, we've talked about
about Tua over the years, the six years he's been in,
the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel
(11:30):
escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right. He was cool.
He's like a hipster coach he's got the glasses, he's
got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's
kind of got swagged to him. Whatever has happened, there
has been an abject disaster and his GM has already
been fired. I don't know what they do. It too.
(11:50):
It going going forward, and reports now are that he's safe,
but I can't see it that the season has then
well him him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the
snapshot of what the league may people think the league
may look like in ten years to being the first
coach out that downfall has been passed.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Why would McDaniel's job be safe if they bring in
a new GM. Isn't he just going to pick a
new head coach. Isn't that they're training of thought or
they're actually gonna keep the head coach?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't
think it's safe. But they have said, and they've leaked
to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike mndane
A're gonna be safe. Like what are they gonna say,
you know, if you say hey could be coaching his job?
Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, But it's the public statement.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than
Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work
rather than.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Let go if people like man remember the stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look
for your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with
now is this team for the next eight weeks?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about
the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, He's a big Raiders guide.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yes, I want need to know how in the world
did the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
How how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You got throughout Week one results?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, Like how.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
There?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'll tell you what Survivor pools. I was on New
England week one, lost one of my entries. They played
a good half against the Raiders and then the Raiders,
for whatever reason, outclass them. Gino what threw for like
three hundred and seventy yards. There was no Christian Gonzales
for New England at that point. Then the next week
the Patriots got into a bit of a shootout against
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the Dolphins. That was a close contest, but New England
ends up winning it in the end. So New England
was close to maybe starting the year zero to two
with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins, and now they're
sitting there seven and two atop the conference. And honestly,
I don't want to say look unbeatable, because they could
have very well lost to the Falcons, but they were
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in control of that game against Atlanta and now look
like a formidable opponent that come playoff time. Speaking of
the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean, we
love Bejon Robinson, we love the running game. That division
looked like it was up for grabs, and then they
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play on Monday Night and they have a dominating win
against the Buffalo Bills, and then you just throw in
a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the map
this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there at
three and five, And.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
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us for an update in the moment, it's fighting through.
Is it a voice thing or is it a cold?
I got a little I can't tell if it's cold
(15:27):
something annoyance. It's getting cold outside here, Dan, So I'm
a little a smidge.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Under the weather.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But you've had more of a voice.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on the other
end of it. It actually kind of I had a
sore throat last week and then Friday is when my
voice really kind of started to go south.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So, oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I woke up with a sore throat today.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
That's oh, that's the start of it. Yeah, that's for me.
Throat is always step one.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But we haven't made out in weeks, so I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Know, An, do you think we could?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
We could, I could get it microphone, the microphone YouTube.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Sure, I'm not sure. Let's try right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Uh, let's let's not all right, Let's let's maintain our
social distancing. We'll get up dated from Dan in a second.
Andrew Brand joins us from executive with the pastor at
Packer's host of the Business of Sports podcast on the
DraftKings Network. He writes a comm at SI dot com
and authors the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, thanks so much
(16:29):
for joining us. Give me the financial implications, if you would,
of the Jet the Jets, uh, the old fire sale
taking place. Quinn Williams gone and Sauce Gardner gone draft
picks in return. But what are the financial implications of
such trades?
Speaker 9 (16:45):
Well, when you move on from a player with a
big number, you're going to take a hit on the cap. Obviously,
the cash goes away, so everything's been paid. Is now
the obligation of the cults and the cowboys what's do
on those contracts? But the it will be in terms
of leftover accounting from the cap circumstances. But you know what,
(17:06):
it's not too terrible with these young players and the
hits that for what they did with these extensions, it's
in the thirteen to twenty range for each of them.
And that's in this day and age. It's not a
ton of debt money. Let me just say this about
the contract though, especially Gardner. They structured Gardner's contract. When
(17:27):
you do a big extension for a top player usually
given them big time bonus like thirty forty fifty million dollars.
It only gave a relatively modest bonus to Gardner of
thirteen million dollars. Now, they did part with that earlier
this year, but it's an option bonus in twenty six
for twenty plus million dollars. And that tells me like
(17:48):
they wanted to keep their options open with this guy,
and the agent's acquiesced that. And it's very interesting to
me that Gardener would accept one of these contracts without
that huge upfront bonus and putting it into the second year,
which gave them optionality on this deal. And Doug, I'll
say really quickly, I am not a fan of the
(18:10):
Jets and their personnel moves, but I like these deals.
I think they maximized value for these two players. They're
not going to be very good for a while. This
team is going to be awful, but they maximize value
for these two trades.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, and you know, you get rid of those salaries.
And my guess would also be they load up to
try and get a quarterback and they probably use the
rest of the picks, you know, to get more picks
to get guys outside of the first round where you
don't have to pay as much money and the hit
rate is only slightly lower. Right, seems like an interesting
It seems like a logical business plan when you're going
(18:47):
to scrap it and start all over, is it not?
Speaker 9 (18:49):
It does, And we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute.
But the cults, you know, it's one of these low
margin for error deals like hed better be Yep, Gardner
a top pick of number two three corner in the NFL.
I mean I'm looking at two number ones. I'm thinking
quarterbacks Michaeh Parsons, Miles Garrett and not many others. You know,
(19:13):
two number ones? Wow, maybe certain, but that is just
you better be he better be not as good, he
better be all pro good?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Now going to Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
I just don't get it. You know, when I say
two number ones for Gardners seemed high, it seems like
a one in a two for Williams seems really high.
They got Kenny Clark as part of the Parsons trade
to shore up the middle of that defense, and it's
been awful. So now they get a similar type player.
They're not addressing the pass rush. They're not addressing the
(19:51):
slow linebacker corps. They're going to have a bad defense
with or without Quinn Williams. And then you look at
the whole total haul with the two trades. So they
give away Micah Parsons and you know, they get back
Quinn Williams and now only one number one pick and
(20:14):
Kenny Clark. It's just I just don't get it with them.
I know that Jones likes to create a stir wherever
he goes, but they are not fixing their weakest link,
which is pass rush and secondary coverage. And they have
two space heating defensive linemen out of these trades, but
that doesn't seem to be doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Andrew Brandt joining a former executive with the Packers, host
of the Business of Sports podcast. He writes the column
at SI dot com. He authors the Sunday seven newsletter.
Here's they get it. You go to my Sunday seven
dot com to sign up. That's my Sunday seven dot com.
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's sprinkle around a cup more in the league.
(20:59):
What are your thoughts of the Bengals and Hendrickson.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
I don't get why they didn't move him, and they
obviously they didn't because they didn't feel they got good value.
But he's a free agent, so you're not going anywhere
this year. You've got the worst defense in the league.
Why not get something he's not staying. I would put
a stake in the ground, as you would, that Trey
Henderson is not going to be a Bengal next year
as a free agent. So I just don't get it.
(21:25):
Like take a third round pick, take a fourth round pick.
I mean, you're not going anywhere. I thought that would
be a surefire trade. I don't get it. The Bengals
defense is historically bad, and but for that, Doug, we'd
be talking about Joe Flacco like among MVPs if they
(21:46):
had won these games that where they gave up forty
five points. I mean, it's just it's a tough situation
in Cincy.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh, it is really a tough situation. Did you like
the Sam Donald move signing when it was signed?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
I did, And I even thought the Vikings could I
guess I would say should have bit the bullet forty
million dollar franchise tag while still developing McCarthy coming off
a ACL so I kind of thought the Vikings would
do that and then he was out forbid. And I
(22:25):
thought Donald would be an upgrade over Gino Smith. I've
been proven right there. I didn't think Gino would be
this bad on the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I did not. I didn't think, you know, it would
be particularly good with the Raiders. I didn't think he'd
be this bad with the Raiders. He'd been nothing but solid,
nothing but solid. Okay, let's get back to the Colts.
Would you redo, would you extend Danny Dives?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
You know what I said about the trades, Doug, is
that this is the best things possible for Danny Daniel Jones,
because what you use those two number one picks for
is quarterback. Now. I know they whiffed on Anthony Richardson,
but they would go after it again. So to me,
that is either a franchise tag or another big time
(23:11):
deal for Daniel Jones. We already got one with the Giants,
and I don't know if I'm sold. I get it,
I get it before last week. He's an MVP candidate.
I just don't know if I'm sold into. You know,
when he did it with the Giants, Doug, it was
a forty million dollar market. Now it's a fifty five
to sixty million market, which he'd be in his in
(23:33):
his rights to ask for. So I guess I'm predicting
a franchise tag. I just don't see a sixty million
a year for Daniel Jones. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Have you you're part of the Packers. Have you been
a part of or seen a Packers team like this
one where kind of plays the level of competition. The
good teams they played well. The bad teams they seem
to play down to the level of competition.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Yes, still fans still close with people out there. It's
a scratcher head the two they've lost two games this
year to the worst two teams they played. It's just
head scratching. I'll say it again. They've lost their two
games this year to the two worst teams they played,
and they just dominated the Steelers who beat the Colts
(24:22):
at the same building. So it is curious. I think
there's a you know, there's a play with their food
sometimes mentality with the Packers. It just seems like they
have so much talent, even losing craft. They're getting back
Jayden Reid. They have three or four dynamic receivers and
of course Jacobs and of course Love who I'm still
(24:45):
even after that horror harble one pass I is still
a big fan of Jordan Love. So I'm still high
on the Packers along with the Eagles in that conference.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, Packers and the Eagles next Monday night at Lamba,
and it should be an absolute show. Should be should
be a good one. Remember you need to go and
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(25:17):
Of course, you can read this stuff at SI dot com.
Butt's go to my Sunday seven dot com. Andrew, thanks
so much.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
For joining us.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, see you guys see the story about Tom Brady
and his dog. He cloned his dog. The first thing
is you have to establish yourself. Ryan. You can tell
us Chase Doe. I know, Jason, you don't have a dog. Buyer,
you don't have a dog. Ryan, I don't know if
you have a dog. I don't know. I used to Okay,
(25:46):
are you a dog guy?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yes? Yes, I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, Uh, what about you there, damn by, are you
a dog person?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
We don't have a dog.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It's such a it's such a You're putting me in
such an awful spot because when you say someone's not
a dog person, they're looked at as the most evil
people in the world. So oh oh, come on, if
you just say that you're not a dog person, nothing
of anything against dogs, Just like I'm not a dog person,
you are put into a category.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You like you are. You are banished.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
You might as well be Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, yeah, Dan, I love you. I think you're overreacting.
I I think I asked it in a very fair
way because I think it's fair to say, Like what
you don't go is like I hate dogs. You go like, hey,
I'm just not a dog person. I got a kid,
I got a job, wife's got a job, like you know.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, I don't think that flies like, am I right?
Like with some people? Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just again there there there are death. There are always
crazy people who love what they love and think everybody's
crazy if you don't love them. I am not that guy.
I'm not that person.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I have three currently, it's probably one too many. Now.
I'm not gonna off any of them. It's just where
we are right now. I love dogs, I love cats.
I don't lessari. I love cats. I like having a cat.
Having a cat's easy, they're super easy. But I don't
currently have one, and I totally understand that there's lots
of people like I don't cats. I don't know, they
(27:28):
just they kind of do their own thing. I'm not
into them. I like a dog, and then some people like,
I don't like dogs. They get in your face, they smell,
they stick up your house, they do have things, and
they're expensive. So no, it's okay, it's okay if you're
not into having dogs. You just got like, I'm not
really a dog person. Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I think there's I think there's baseline, and I think
that there's then dog people.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So I'm a dog person. But I am not judgmental
at all of people who don't like dogs. My view
of people who don't like dogs as much like my
my view of people who are who are gay. Okay,
there's more options for me.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That's the way I like the apples. But I have
no idea where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I think what we need to do is we need
to go to say, Jason, are you a dog person?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Jason, are you a dog? I know Jason's not a
dog person.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Oh yes, no time. Yeah, they just lost one unfortunately,
that's right. Yeah, topic there.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Do you want your dog that you had to put down, which,
by the way, is the most traumatic thing ever ever?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Do you want your dog? Do you want to be cloned?
Like Tom Brady's dog was cloned?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
No, I'm creeped out, but I'm creeped out by this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
The whole thing is creepy. Let's just be honest. Like
Tom Brady, he looks like he's had plastic shirdery done.
Is that? Does anybody dispute that? I don't know it
for a fact. I'm not accusing him of it. I'm
saying what it looks like to somebody who's not as
good looking as he is. Is that is that fair?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's fair?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah? Yes, okay, yeah, I'm again, this is not me defaming.
Oh he's all he's addicted to. I don't know if
he had nip tucks done. I don't know if he
just has botox. I don't know how any of that
stuff works. I'm ugly and I'm gonna have to live
with it. That's the way it is. I do think
it tracks with everything else with Tom Brady. I just
(29:21):
do like he's that guy. He's that guy that wears
a suit on the sidelines to go shake hands and
take pictures of people before an NFL game. Nobody else does.
It's like he's classically overdressed. He has to seemingly look perfect.
His teeth. It looks like every day is a whitening
stripp day. And the fact that he had a dog,
(29:42):
and I like that to like, you kind of clone
a dog anytime you have a dog that's from a
breeder anyway. You know the why am I blanking on
the name? What's the great comedian?
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He hated all of societal norms? Am I thinking, oh geez, oh.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh, that's every comedian that narrows it down there?
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Dog?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Thanks, that was terrible. No, white guy, white guy passed.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Oh yeah that guy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
White guy passed away. Older. Oh come, George, George Carlin.
George Carlin would a had it had a bit where
he said, like, you know, think about it.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Die.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Everybody makes that to be the dog, but you can
literally take your dog when it is dead, put it
up on the counter, goes, I love this dog, Give
me one just like it, and then both you get
one just like it. Tom Brady took that to the
next step, like, you know, I want to just I
literally want the dog just like it. I would love
to know if the dog behaves, has the same name,
(30:44):
responds to the same commands, didn't have to be trained,
or was trained the same way. It's creepy as.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Hell pet cemetery, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Oh, it's a good movie.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's creepy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't love creepy, but okay, I mean I have
Twinny and Cold at night. Maybe does anybody think this
is a cool story, a normal story? Does anybody like
the story? Or is everybody creeped out by it? Like
me and Jason are.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't think it's cool. I just don't not as
it's a world that I don't relate to.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, that's fair. It's like it's like rich people stuff
like yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it's
like to have Nanni's.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Like when when Brady I put out obviously he made
the announcement to also endorse this company that I'm guessing
he has a stake in, and ye, it adds to
the dirtiness the whole thing. But this is one of
the bylaws or one of the things that Colossal, the
company that cloned his dog, sells to the public. They
aim to fix extinction, and to me, that just just
(31:47):
it's so unnatural to me that I'm I'm just kind
of diametrically opposed to that concept. Just let let human
life and other living beings go the way where they're
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Please, Yep, yep, I think that's totally fair, totally fair.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
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(32:42):
Doug Gottlip Showlet's get to Dan Byer with.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
The Press The Press Doug Day after the NFL trade deadline,
the Arizona Cardinals are making moves with their own players,
including quarterback Kyler Murray.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Today, Kyler is going to go on ir feel like
that's the best thing hamming for us. He's not fully
healthy ready to go yet, so that makes the most
sense right now. What he's going to concentrate on is
getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Out with that foot injury. So Jacoby Brissett continues to start,
and he'll start for at least the next four games
for Arizona.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Huge opportunity for Brissett. And what's crazy about it is
it does hide a little bit of the announcement earlier
this week where Brissette was going to start regardless of
Kyler Murray's health. So will Kyler Murley ever start a
game for the Cardinals again? That is tb D.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
The stretch of games that Arizona has as well, We've
mentioned this Sunday, they're in Seattle against the Seahawks. They
then have the Niners at home home against the Jaguars
and at Tampa Bay. So three out of those four
pretty big games when you're trying to talk about getting
into the playoffs against the three potential playoff teams four
(33:57):
if you want to count Jacksonville but AFC Eyes. You know,
those games are kind of whatever at times, but that's
where we are. And then if he doesn't come back
after the four weeks, they've got a game against the Rams.
So that's what's up next for the Arizona Cardinals Commanders
head coach Dan Quinn till the reporters today, they're still
evaluating on how to proceed with Jayden Daniel's elbow injury
(34:17):
suffered against the Seahawks on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
What do you mean they had to proceed he had
a dislocated ebo. Oh, how to how when to play him,
when not to play him?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I think the procedure, what is all going on? I
think they're getting other opinions on what actually happened with
the injury, So right now they still don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Three days later, Yeah, I mean, it's gruesome, but it's
his left elbow, don shoulders throwing elbow. I would just
say this if they're getting other opinions. That means that
the primary opinion they've gotten is not a favorable one.
(35:01):
Remember this is I'm gonna coin this phrase. I'm sure
somebody else smarter than me said it. No one ever
gets the second opinion on good news.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
There's gonna come a point where the Commanders probably fall
far enough back in the playoff race. I mean, right now,
there's only two teams with the worst record than they
have in the NFC. Sure, so they're gonna I mean,
if he isn't already shut down for the season, which
he should be, that's going to happen. Here's my question
for you. The Bengals are three and six, just like
the Commanders, and what time does Cincinnati say, all right,
(35:33):
Joe Burrow, you don't have to return this year. I
think that there was a point when Joe Burrow got
hurt that we all thought, oh, yeah, of course, Joe
Burrow's gonna come back in mid December. And that's why
they got Joe Flacco and they won a game here
and they're in the thick of it. But the Cincinnati
is now starting to teeter a little. They got to
buy in Week ten, but I don't think there's any
guarantee we see Joe Burrow again this season.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't think we'll see him again this season. I
think that's probably part of the plan. I just don't
think they're's in on the plan.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Bill Belichick is one of nine former NFL head coaches
who advanced to the semi finals in balloting for the
Hall of Fame. Mike Shanahan, Tom Coughlin, Mike Holmgren, who
was put on the ballot last year but did not
get enough votes to go in.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Are other finalists amongst the.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Nine give me give me the Homegren.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Who else there's so there's yeah, there's Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren,
Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick, Chuck Knox. I believe George Seffert.
I think Marty Schottenheimer's on that that list as well.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
When Belichick has to go in has to and I
would say the other one you'd probably put in, Well.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
They'll only be one. But that's that's the thing is
Holmegerd should have got in last year. Somehow he didn't.
They put him in, and now you're like, all right,
is he not good enough this year? And obviously it
would be weird to put Belichick in, all right, Doug,
how about.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The college It would be weird to put Belchick in?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Well, but no, I mean it would be no, it
would be weird to not It would be weird to
not put him in. With the six Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Right right, right, right right right, even though maybe I've
missuched that. I thought you said it'd be yes, the
order would be weird right home, great should have gone
in this year, last year, then Belichick goes in this year.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It's totally yeah, like that's weird, but yeah, it's also
weird to be like, Okay, here's the winningest coach of
all time and we're not going to put him in
right away.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Like that's that. The whole thing is kind of a
mess anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
College football, Auburn Notre Dame gonna play a home and
home series, get this, in twenty twenty seven. The game
is going to be played in South Bend twenty twenty eight,
late October at Auburn. So Notre Dame filling up their schedule.
Maybe bye by USC, Hello Auburn. But Auburn and Notre
Dame have a home and home and that's the press
(37:50):
that get out there and press.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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