November 5, 2025 • 42 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug breaks down the two teams who made the biggest splash at the trade deadline as the Jets and Colts exchanged talent for assets.
Doug welcomes former NFL team Executive and current Business of Sports Podcaster/Writer Andrew Brandt on to talk about all of the storylines from the trade deadline.
On this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew go over the first half of the NFL season and the most interesting things that happened.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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it or we download podcast. So the Jets have made
some moves where they have two first round picks and
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two second round picks in twenty twenty six, three first
round picks in twenty twenty seven. Meanwhile, the Colts have
added Sauce Gardner. So which one do you want to Hey,
where do you want to take it? Do you want
to take it with the team that added or the
team that's subtracted. Let's start with a team that added.
Chaine Steiken is the head coach of the Colts. Most
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people thought he was on the hot seat to start
the season. Danny Dimes has been really, really good. Jonathan
Taylor bean back, gives them a tremendous running back, and
now you add an elite two time All Pro cornerback
to the mix. Here's the Colts head coach on the addition.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Obviously, I'm really excited about adding Sauce Gardner to our
football team. You know, his resume speaks for itself, Pro bowler,
All Pro, So to get a guy into the building
like that, it just elevates everybody around us. So really
excited to add him to the fold. I think when
you're sticky on the back end with the coverage guys
that we got in adding him to the fold obviously,
you know that makes the quarterback probably hang onto the
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ball a little more, which helps the pass rush, and
it goes hand in hand the same thing. Pass rush
helps the copverboards on the back end. So anytime you
add an elite player like that to the back end,
it's going to help everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think that's fair. It's gonna help everybody, right, you
gotta have help up front or in the backfield. Now
there's a couple of parts to it. Let's first say,
for the Jets, I don't like it. I love it
because you only do this if you have an owner
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and Woody Johnson who's probably a little bit too involved,
but the owner has said, hey, I'm all in on
the coach. I'm all in on what he's doing and
what he's selling. And the only way you do this
is if the owner says, all right, look, we're not
going to win this year, let's rebuild this team. Let's
rebuild this roster, and here's how we're going to do it.
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And if you think that this is a change in
mentality and getting rid of defensive players, it's not. It's
simply getting rid of the two guys with the most
value who have yet to sign those big long term
extensions that just bleeds you and give you the inability
to fill out your roster. The only reason you go
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and have two first round picks, two second round picks,
three first round picks the next year is because you
want to go fix your quarterback position. And if you
think the Jets are happy with their quarterback position with
justin fields, all you have to do is look at
the owner's own quotes going back two weeks ago. What
he said, I mean, we could just complete a four.
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You know, we just complete a pass. No one thinks
justin Fields is good enough, and the owner has said
he's not good enough, and he's got his coach, so
he gives them the ability to gut it, take it
down to the studs. Let's start over. Here's a Jets GM,
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Darren Moogie talking about the trades he pulled up.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I know it gives us good flexibility going in to
the draft this year and next year. So excited about
having that flexibility. And you know, the draft's a long
way away. There's a lot to happen between now and
April and then, especially twenty twenty seven. You hear them
and you're like, I probably wouldn't do that, but we
have our set values. Would keep all those conversations private.
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And when it came down to the last few days,
Indianapolis kept getting rich and richard with their value and eventually,
like I said, it was too good to pass up.
But there's I have a lot of conversations throughout the
course of the year with different gms, and this one materialized.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Stug Otleab show here on Fox Sports Tradio. What does
all this mean? We do operate under the premise, okay,
that if you're in All Pro and you get traded,
you're automatically going to be an all pro at a
new location. And even though I think the Jets valued
sauce Gardner, you if you thought he if he was
untradable because he's that good, he's untradable two first round
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draft picks. Says it's close to untradable, but it's not untradable.
So I want you to refresh your mind on one
thing I hate when you know, how Jason, how you
hate prediction radio. What I hate is those debate shows
which start with a question from somebody in the middle
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who offers no up opinion they're not supposed to, who says,
should the Jets trade sauce Gardener? And there is while
there's a yes and a no that producers want to
get to when you do radio or television that those
type of questions, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Do I want to trade sauce Gardener? No? Do I
want to trade sauce Gardner? If I'm one in seven,
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I don't want to pay him a new contract, and
somebody's willing to give me two first round draft picks
for him. Well, yet, maybe maybe there's also the other
side to it, which is there is a chance that
sauce Gardener, while good, may not be as good as
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they think. Otherwise, would you have taken two first round
draft picks because two first round draft picks, well, it
resets your clock on how much you're going to pay guys.
And it is a value because you can trade it
for several second and third round picks where you can
really load up on inexpensive talent. The fact is, all
you're hoping with those two first round draft picks is
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that one of the players is as impactful sauce Gardner
has been throughout his career, and it hasn't been very long.
So there's a world out there where it looks like
a great trade for the Colts. They overpaid value wise
because they knew what they were getting, and yet maybe
maybe the Jets get over on them. For over forty years,
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know we had the trade deadline, I get it, but
I do think that the Jets this is like SEC football,
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where the end of the season is going to be
terribly non competitive during times in which usually those are
the most viewed games.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, they've I mean they've They've punted on this season,
and it's it's kind of why I've never felt that
Aaron Glenn was in jeopardy of losing his job no
matter how bad things went, because, as we found out today,
Quinn Williams had been complaining all year behind the scenes,
at least quietly or requesting a trade out of town.
We knew that there was going to be changeover. It
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didn't make much sense to have Sauce Gardner the cornerback
of his level, even if he maybe wasn't playing to
the hype that he previously was playing, He's still top
level corner and to have him on a bad team,
it's just his the compareson Because we've talked about this
for the last couple of weeks on the I Want
Your Flex podcast, is closer on a bad baseball team. Yeah,
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it's awesome to have a guy who can go into
the ninth and get one, two, three, But what's the point. Yeah, exactly,
So it made sense for the you know, for the
Jets in that scenario. What I find so interesting at
least then that's Pacific Colts Jets deal is look at
how this Jets team was was just just crumbled into
the ruins that it is now with the build up starting,
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like I think, we have seen the team hit rock
bottom from where it was at one point and where
it could have been. And you would think I was
blamed Aaron Rodgers. No, I actually think that Aaron Rodgers
got caught up in the rubble of all of this
and the dysfunction. But also, Doug, look at the Colts. Now,
the Colts are saying we're all in. We're gonna give
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up two first round picks, and while they have a
great offensive line, it really means they believe in Daniel
Jones and they really, I think, want to cash in
on these this year where Jonathan Taylor remains is healthy
and knock On Wood remains healthy, because this could be
the opportunity. The one thing with Taylor throughout his career
has been all right. Is he going to get injured
at some point? He's going to miss a couple of
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games and they're all in at this point. I really
think that they're all in for this season, and they'll
have decisions to make further down the line, and this
trade ends up reflecting that by giving away two firsts.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I agree with you, And it's one of those things
for the Colts where how often are you going to
get this opportunity? Right? The Chiefs are kind of the
Bills look beatable, not unbeatable, The Chargers are all banged up, right,
Denver's fine, Like, let's not act like Denver's spectacular and
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if you can go for it, like, go for it, yeah,
and worry about the rest of another time. I do
think there's the possibility you mentioned that sauce Gardner is
he not playing well because he knows he's on a
crummy team and he's just not dialed in, or is
he not as good as as we thought or maybe
he used to be.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And the same thing with Quinnon Williams with his numbers
that maybe weren't up to previous seasons, and I think
that will have something to it. I think that there
there will be a boost. It's just it's it's interesting
as well when you why you're a corner when we
look at the AFC right now and you're like, what
receivers do you need to lock up? Well, there's none
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in Buffalo, Kansas City. You're like, Okay, maybe Roshie Rice
is the guy New England, Stefan Diggs. You know, like,
there's there's that one portion of it. Pitt, Yeah, DK
Metcalf isn't really there's And that's kind of my point
of So now now I'm curious to see what the
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Colts do with this. Is it to lock up Nico Collins?
Is it to lock up Brian Thomas junior receivers in
your division? That makes a lot of sense to do
that as well, But I'm just curious on how it's
going to play out, especially with the team in the
running for a home field in the AFC.
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join us. For an update in the moment, it's fighting through.
Is it a voice thing or is it a cold?
I got a little I can't tell if it's cold
(11:16):
something annoyance. It's getting cold outside here, Dan, So I'm
a little a smidge.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Under the weather.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But you've had more of a voice.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on the other
end of it. It actually kind of I had a
sore throat last week and then Friday is when my
voice really kind of started to go south.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
So, oh, that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I woke up with a sore throat today.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That's oh, that's the start of it. Yeah, that's for me.
Throat is always step one.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But we haven't made out in weeks, so I don't.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Know, as been months.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you think we could? We could, I could get
it microphone, the microphone YouTube.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Sure, I'm not sure. Let's try right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Uh, let's let's not all right, Let's let's maintain our
social distancing. We'll get up dated from Dan in a second.
Andrew Brand joins us from executive with the pastor at Packers,
host of the Business of Sports podcast of the DraftKings Network.
He writes a comm at SI dot com and authors
the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, thanks so much for joining us.
(12:19):
Give me the financial implications, if you would, of the
Jet the Jets the old fire sale taking place, Quinn
Williams gone and Sauce Gardner gone draft picks in return.
But what are the financial implications of such trades?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Well, when you move on from a player with a
big number, you're going to take a hit on the cap. Obviously,
the cash goes away, so everything's been paid. Is now
the obligation of the cults and the cowboys what's do
on those contracts. But the hit will be in terms
of leftover accounting from the cap circumstances. But you know what,
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it's not too terrible with these young players and the
hits for what they did with these extensions. It's in
the thirteen to twenty range for each of them. And
that's in this day and age. It's not a ton
of debt money. Let me just say this about the
contract though, especially Gardner. They structured Gardner's contract. When you
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do a big extension for a top player usually given
them big time bonus, like thirty forty fifty million dollars.
It only gave a relatively modest bonus to Gardner of
thirteen million dollars. Now, they did part with that earlier
this year, but it's an option bonus in twenty six
for twenty plus million dollars. And that tells me like
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they wanted to keep their options open with this guy,
and the agent's acquiesced that. And it's very interesting to
me that Gardener would accept one of these contracts without
that huge upfront bonus and putting it into the second
year which gave them optionality on this deal. And Doug,
I'll say really quickly, I am not a fan of
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the in their personnel moves, but I like these deals.
I think they maximized value for these two players. They're
not going to be very good for a while. This
team is going to be awful, but they maximize value
for these two trades.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and you know, you get rid of those salaries.
And my guess would also be they load up to
try and get a quarterback and they probably use the
rest of the picks, you know, to get more picks
to get guys outside of the first round where you
don't have to pay as much money and the hit
rate is only slightly lower. Right, seems like an interesting
It seems like a logical business plan when you're gonna
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scrap it and start all over, is it not?
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It does, And we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute.
But the Colts, you know, it's one of these low
margin for error deals like hed better be Yep, Gardner
a top pick of number two three corner in the NFL.
I mean I'm looking at two number ones. I'm thinking
quarterbacks Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, and not many others. You know,
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two number ones. Wow, maybe certain, but that is just
you better be. He better be not just as good,
he better be all pro good.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, now go on to Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I just don't get it. You know, when I say
two number ones for Gardeners seemed high, it seems like
a one in a two for Williams seems really high.
They got Kenny Clark as part of the Parsons trade
to shore up the middle of that defense, and it's
been awful. So now they get a similar type player.
They're not addressing the pass rush, they're not addressing the
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slow linebacker corps. They're going to have a bad defense
with or without Quinn Williams. And then you look at
the whole total haul with the two trades, Doug. So
they give away Michael Parsons and you know, they get
back Quinn Williams and now only one number one pick
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and Kenny Clark. It's just I just don't get it
with them. I know that Jones likes to create a
stir wherever he goes, but they are not fixing their
weakest link, which is pass rush and secondary coverage. And
they have two space heating defensive linemen out of these trades,
but that doesn't seem to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Andrew Brandt joining a former executive with the Packers, host
of the Business of Sports podcast. He writes the column
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It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's sprinkle around a cup more in the league.
(16:48):
What are your thoughts on the Bengals and Hendrickson.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I don't get why they didn't move him, and they
obviously they didn't because they didn't feel they got good value.
But he's a free agent, so you're not going anywhere
this year, got the worst defense in the league. Why
not get something he's not staying. I would put a
stake in the ground, as you would, that Trey Henderson
is not going to be a Bengal next year as
a free agent. So I just don't get it. Like
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take a third round pick, take a fourth round pick,
I mean, you're not going anywhere. I thought that would
be a surefire trade. I don't get it. The Bengals
defense is historically bad, and but for that, Doug, we'd
be talking about Joe Flacco, like among MVPs if they
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had won these games that where they gave up forty
five points. I mean, it's just it's a tough situation
in Cincy.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, it is really a tough situation. Did you like
the Sam Donald move signing when it was signed?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I did, And I even thought the Vikings could I
guess I would say should have bit the bullet forty
million dollar franchise tag while still developing McCarthy coming off
a ACL so I kind of thought the Vikings would
do that, and then he was out forbid, and I
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thought Donald would be an upgrade over Gino Smith. I've
been proven right there I didn't think Gino would be
this bad on the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I did not. I didn't think, you know, it would
be particularly good with the Raiders. I didn't think he'd
be this bad with the Raiders. He'd been nothing but solid,
nothing but solid. Okay, let's get back to the Colts.
Would you redo, would you extend Danny Dives?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
You know what I said about the trades, Doug, is
that this is the best things possible for Danny Daniel Jones,
because what you use those two number one picks for
is a quarterback. Now. I know they whiffed on Anthony Richardson,
but they would go after it again. So to me,
that is either a franchise tag or another big time
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deal for Daniel Jones. We already got one with the Giants,
and I don't know if I'm sold get it. I
get it before last week. He's an MVP candidate. I
just don't know if I'm sold into. You know, when
he did it with the Giants, Doug, it was a
forty million dollar market. Now it's a fifty five to
sixty million market, which he'd be in his in his
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rights to ask for. So I guess I'm predicting a
franchise tag. I just don't see a sixty million a
year for Daniel Jones. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Have you you're part of the Packers. Have you been
a part of or seen a Packers team like this
one where kind of plays the level of competition. The
good teams they played well, the bad teams they seem
to play down to the level of competition.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Yeah, still a fan, still close with people out there.
It's a it's a scratcher head the two they've lost
two games this year to the worst two teams they played.
That's just head scratching. I'll say it again. They've lost
their two games this year to the two worst teams
they've played, and they just dominated the Steelers, who beat
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the Colts at the same building. So it is curious.
I think there's a you know, there's a play with
their food sometimes mentality with the Packers. It just seems
like they have so much talent, even losing Craft. They're
getting back Jayden Reid, they have three or four dynamic receivers,
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and of course Jacobs and of course Love who I'm
still even after that horror harble one pass, I is
still a big fan of Jordan Love. So I'm still
high on the Packers along with the Eagles in that conference.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, Packers and the Eagles next Monday night at Lambeau
and it should be an absolute show. Should be a
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(21:04):
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it's go to my Sunday seven dot com. Andrew, thanks
so much.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
For joining us.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, see you guys see the story about Tom Brady
and his dog. He cloned his dog. The first thing
is you have to establish yourself. Ryan. You can tell
us Chase dou I know, Jason, you don't have a dog. Buyer,
you don't have a dog. Ryan, I don't know if
you have a dog. I don't know. I used to Okay,
(21:35):
are you a dog guy?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yes? Yes, I love dogs.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Ok Uh, what about you there, damn By, are you
a dog person?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
We don't have a dog.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's such a it's such a you're putting me in
such an awful spot because when you say someone's not
a dog person, there looked at as the most evil
people in the world. So oh oh, come on, if
you just say that you're not a dog person, nothing
of anything against dogs, Just like I'm not a dog person,
you are put into a category you like you are.
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You are banished.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
You might as well be Michael Vick.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No, yeah, Dan, I love you. I think you're overreacting.
I I think I asked it in a very fair
way because I think it's fair to say, like, what
you don't go is like I hate dogs. You go like, hey,
I'm just not a dog person. I got a kid,
I got a job, my wife's got a job.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Like you know.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah, I don't think that flies like, am I right?
Like with some people? Some people, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Think it's just again there there there are death. There
are always crazy people who love what they love and
think everybody's crazy if you don't love them. I am
not that guy. I'm not that person. I love dogs.
I have three currently, it's probably one too many now.
I'm not going to off any of them. It's just
(23:00):
where we are right now. I love dogs, I love cats.
I don't less Sary. I love cats. I like having
a cat. Having a cat's easy, they're super easy. But
I don't currently have one, and I totally understand that
there's lots of people like I don't cats. I don't know.
They just they kind of do their own thing. I'm
not into them. I like a dog. And then some
people like, I don't like dogs. They get in your face,
(23:22):
they smell, they stick up your house, they they do things,
and they're expensive. So no, it's okay, it's okay if
you're not into having dogs. You just got like, I'm
not really a dog person.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Okay, I think there's I think there's baseline, and I
think that there's then dog people.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So I'm a dog person. But I am not judgmental
at all of people who don't like dogs. My view
of people who don't like dogs is much like my
view of people who are who are gay. Okay, there's
more options for me. That's the way I like.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
As but.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
That I think what we need to do is we
need to go to say, Jason, are you a dog person?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Jason, are you a dog? I know Jason's not a
dog person.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Oh yes, no time. Yeah, they just lost one unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, a bad topic there.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Do you want your dog that you had to put down, which,
by the way, is the most traumatic thing ever ever? Uh?
Do you want your dog? Do you want to be cloned?
Like Tom Brady's dog was cloned?
Speaker 8 (24:26):
No, I'm creeped out, but I'm creeped out by this
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The whole thing is creepy. Let's just be honest. Like
Tom Brady, he looks like he's had plastic shirdury done.
Is that? Does anybody dispute that? I don't know it
for a fact. I'm not accusing him of it. I'm
saying what it looks like to somebody who's not as
good looking as he is. Is that Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
It's fair? Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm again, this is not me defaming.
Oh he's he's addicted to I don't know if he
had nip tucks done. I don't know if he just
has botox. I don't know how any of that stuff works.
I'm ugly, and I'm gonna have to live with it.
That's the way it is. I do think it tracks
with everything else with Tom Brady. I just do like
(25:11):
he's that guy. He's that guy that wears a suit
on the sidelines to go shake hands and take pictures
of people before an NFL game. Nobody else does. It's
like he's he's classically overdressed. He has to seemingly look
perfect his teeth. It looks like every day is a
whitening stripp day. And the fact that he had a dog,
(25:31):
and I like that, like you kind of clone a
dog anytime you have a dog that's a from a breeder. Anyway,
you know the why am I blanking on the name?
What's the great comedian?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He hated all of societal norms? Am I thinking, oh jeez.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Oh, oh, that's every comedian.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Down there. Dog?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Thanks, that was terrible. No, white guy, white guy passed away?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Oh yeah that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, white guy passed away. Older. Oh come George,
George Carlin. George Carlin would all had had a bit
where he said, like, you know, the think about it die.
Everybody makes it that to be the dog. But you
can literally take your dog when it is dead, put
it up on the counter, goes, I love this dog,
Give me one just like it, and then both you
get one just like it. Tom Brady took that to
(26:24):
the next step, Like, you know, I want to just
I literally want the dog just like it. I would
love to know if the dog behaves, has the same name,
responds to the same commands, didn't have to be trained,
or was trained the same way. It's creepy as.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Hell pet cemetery, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Oh that's a good movie.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
It's creepy.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I I don't love creepy, but okay, I mean I
have Twindy and Cold at Night. Maybe does anybody think
this is a cool story, a normal story? Does anybody
like the story? Or is everybody creeped out by it?
Like me and Jason are.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I don't think it's cool. I just not as it's
a world that I don't relate to.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Okay, that's fair. It's like it's like rich people stuff
like yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it's
like to have Nanni's.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Like when when Brady I put out, obviously he made
the announcement to also endorse this company that I'm guessing
he has a stake in, and ye that it adds
to the dirtiness the whole thing. But this is one
of the bylaws or one of the things that Colossal,
the company that cloned his dog sells to the public.
They aim to fix extinction, And to me, that just
(27:36):
just it's so unnatural to me that I'm I'm just
kind of diametrically opposed to that concept. Just let let
human life and other living beings go the way they're
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Please, Yep, yep, I think that's totally fair, totally fair.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
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Radio iHeartRadio App. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. It is a Wednesday,
It's the middle of the week, the middle of the show,
the middle of the the day. We'll get to the
midway up coming. Andrew Brandt's gonna join us twenty five
after the hour. He is the host of the Business
of Sports podcast. We got a lot to talk about.
Tom Brady has cloned his dog. Huh r r. That
(28:34):
was my Scooby Doo. By the way, guys, my Scooby Doo.
You know you got NBA games, you got some college
football but it's Wednesday is kind of the calm before
the oh storm. Right. Got college hoops as well, So
there's a lot of potential storylines, but nothing that jumps
(28:55):
out at you to day other than you know, the
Jets kind of fire sale. If you will tomorrow, you
got Raiders Denver. Denver's a talking point. Tonight, you don't
have much. So let's get to the midway.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He's not getting.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Mid with you.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's time for the.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Midway.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man?
What are you thinking of the midway?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I really thought that Jason brought up a great point
that it's it's the midway point of the season, right Jason, Like,
this is the halfway points.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
If it's pretty simple of the mouth, there's eighteen weeks
and if you divide eighteen by two, it's nine. So
we just finished the ninth week. It's very simple. Mouth.
I'm not sure how that could be confused.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I know this one guy who like last week, was like,
it's the halfway point of the season, right now, you
take seventeen and he even asked my buddy, he goes,
what's half of seventeen? And my buddy was like, and
they're like, all right, we're in it. Oh man, what
a crazy spot right now?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Is the halfway point of the NFL season. I got
zero responses to it. I blame Ryan Smith here for
not responding. I want to know halfway through the NFL
season one of two things. What was the biggest surprise
from the first half of the season or what's the
storyline that you are looking forward to following moving forward
(30:28):
for the second half of the season. Which one do
you guys want to do? I think they're both game.
I think that I'll work in this spot. Even when
we talked about it last week. I think there's a
midway point. There's things that you can look ahead and
look back to. The reason I didn't respond was because
I thought we decided last week that we were going
(30:49):
to do that this week when I told you, they
were eighteen weeks in the NFL season. So that's why
there was no response today, because I just figured that
this was this was the given the portion of the equation, mm.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Hmm, I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season.
I like looking back, we can wonder and maybe do
next week and do the last kick the kick of
the season. I just think there's all kinds of interesting
things the culture. The most interesting they just are. I mean,
between Chris Ballard, their GM, Shane Stike in their head coach,
(31:28):
I think most people thought they were on some form
of hot seat. And remember they started this year with
Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the
fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they
had Danny Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him,
(31:48):
popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And
when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with
a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dives
been great, Jonathan Taylor has been awesome, the defense been
pretty good. Shane Styke is a tremendous play color, and
they got a shot now adding Sauce Gardner to go
(32:11):
far in the AFC playoffs, not just with how good
they are, but how beaten up and how average everybody
else is. I can't think of a more interesting story
that's different than we thought it would be than the
Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And and I think that the trepidation from people or
the people who have some questions about the Colts are
the ones who haven't watched the Colts.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
They like they are.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
They are really the Chargers ass right, like Jaseu like
they kick their ass.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
But I would rather a team turn the ball over
six times than to be uh not be able to
do anything on offense, like they didn't get their running
game going, but like they like they they lost the
game with seven, but it was probably realistically a two
score game. Sure, but to turn it over six times
means like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? And
(33:06):
I've been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in the
way that they've turned over the ball earlier in the season.
But turning over the ball sometimes, I don't think is
a sign of.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
I would have happened.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Multiple weeks in a row. It happened three weeks in
a row, like okay, now we got a pro act
correct and Jay Stu. I'm not saying the Colts are
the best team in the AMC or that's not a
sign of ooh, maybe the damn is gonna break, maybe
this team will come back down to earth. Right, I'm
not saying the question or we were trying to talk
about the midway is most interesting first half storylines that's
(33:37):
pretty interesting to me that the Colts, who none of
us were like, if you would have listed your top
eight teams or your top ten teams from the AFC
to start the year, would you have listened to the Colts.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
No, it's not a chance.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
I thought stich In and Ballard were like on the
way out.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, no question. So that's
why I would say it's again, I'm not proclaiming them
to be the best team in the AFC, to be
a super Bowl favorite. You know, there's lots of teams
they have better record than. I'm not sure they're actually
better then, But so far in the first half season,
they have shown themselves to be prett darn good, shown
themselves to be well coached, and it's the surprise of
(34:14):
the year for me how well the Colts have played
with Daniel Jones, that quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City Chiefs,
because I don't feel that we ever really look at
them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one way
or another. Starting of the year, zero and two hots over,
super Bowl hangover.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Then they go and they win.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City, best
team in the NFL, and then we see them loose
to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier,
if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs
would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four,
So who are they? They don't have a running game.
They don't have a running back right now. Their win,
(35:00):
their best win on the slate is a home win
against the Lions. It's a nice win you to take that.
Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore win lamar
Get's hurt in the game. Not that they would have
won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore isn't the same.
Win against the Giants is nothing. The Raiders they blank
(35:22):
them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good. The Commanders said,
Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just haid Josh Allen
go twenty three to twenty six against them.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
So really, how good are the Kansas City Chiefs?
Speaker 8 (35:35):
They're not a playoff team if it started today? Right?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
And was was Sunday not the smallest biggest game of
any weekend, Like for all the hype that CBS gave
it and Jim Nantz and Tony Romo did their best
to make it sound big. It was almost like and
you kind of had to take Josh Allen's lead. After
the game. He was basically like, we haven't done anything.
Like the Bills beat the Chiefs. That's what they do.
(36:01):
They just never beat them when they have to. I
found that to be interesting. The smallest, biggest game of
the weekend Bill's Chiefs camp.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's the rivalry in the NFL, and it looks like
it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo,
which doesn't look bad. But when you dig a little
deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo is in pretty
good control for that contest.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I'm gonna say, Drake May. I'm gonna say that. I'll
say the Patriots, but Drake May. Let's focus uber focus
on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As you
guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I care
less about sports than I do about how sports is covered.
I probably follow how sports is covered too much. I
(36:48):
get real bogged down in the weeds of what people
say about it, and I like to point out contradictions
and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how the
media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay,
So let's go back at the beginning of the college
football season in twenty three, it was like Kayleb Williams,
Drake May, Drake May or Kerry Williams. They were they
(37:10):
were by far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come
out of the of the NFL draft. It was one
and two, which one do you swat? Who knows? And
then it plays out and Drake May falls, He falls
out of favor, didn't have a great last season. All
of a sudden, Jaden Daniels has taken in front of
him in the draft. Drake May plays a pretty good
(37:31):
rookie season, then gets eight, gets a Mike Rabels season
this year, and now everyone's saying, hey, if we redrafted
this whole thing, Drake May's at the top. It's obvious
it's Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways, and
Doug just said he's the MVP last segment. So I
want people to please be consistent with their coverage. That's
(37:55):
all I ask him.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Doug ad him second in the MVP. Did pick Josh
Allen over him, but more so than Patrick Mahomes. From
what the odds are saying, But yeah, you're absolutely right.
How about the Ryan Poles piece that came out where
he put together that that basically disc clip of Drake
May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he so wanted
to take Caleb Williams. I love that little nugget that
(38:20):
we got entering this season and now and now, by
the way, do we know if you would take Caleb
Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams because that was the discussion
this whole last of the season.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, absolutely right. Now are we so sure that we
want to do that?
Speaker 8 (38:36):
And you know what people are saying, Well, of course
you don't take Jade Williams because he's not He's not available.
I thought coming out of college he was the guy
that was too thin and too weak. I thought that
was the knock on him. Now you're gonna knock him
for being unavailable. What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yes? They last year was just such a funky year
for the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I have a couple other first half of the season,
the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story. And
it's a big story because, look, we've talked about about
Tua over the years. The six years he's been in
the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel
(39:20):
escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right, He was cool.
He's like a hipster coach. He's got the glasses, he's
got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's
kind of got swagged to him. Whatever has happened, there
has been an abject disaster and his GM has already
been fired. I don't know what they do it too,
(39:40):
it going going forward, and reports now are that he's safe,
but I can't see it that the season has done
well him him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the
snapshot of what the league may people think the league
may look like in ten years, to being the first
coach out that downfall has been passed.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
Why would McDaniel's job be safe if they bring in
a new GM. Isn't he just gonna pick a new
head coach. Isn't that the train of thought? Or they're
actually gonna keep the head coach?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't
think it's safe. But they have said, and they leaked
to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike Dane
you're gonna be safe, Like, what are they gonna say?
You know, if you say, hey, good be coaching for
his job. Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, but it's the
public statement.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than
Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work
rather than let go people like man remember the stephen A.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look
for your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with
now is this team for the next eight weeks?
Speaker 8 (40:53):
I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about
the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, he's a big Raiders guy.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yes, I want to know how in the world did
the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one?
Speaker 6 (41:06):
How how did that happen?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You got throughout Week one results?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, Like
how there?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I'll tell you what Survivor pools. I was on New
England week one, lost one of my entries. They played
a good half against the Raiders and then the Raiders
for whatever reason, outclass them. Gino what threw for like
three hundred and seventy yards? There was no Christian Gonzales
for New England at that point. Then the next week
the Patriots got into a bit of a shootout against
(41:39):
the Dolphins. That was a close contest, but New England
ends up winning it in the end. So New England
was close to maybe starting the year zero to two
with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins, and now they're
sitting there seven to two atop the conference. And honestly,
I don't want to say look unbeatable, because they could
have very well lost to the to the Falcons, but
(41:59):
they we're in control of that game against Atlanta and
now look like a formidable opponent that come playoff on.
Speaking of the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean,
we love Bejon Robinson, we love the running game. That
division looked like it was up for grabs, and then
(42:22):
they play on Monday Night and they have a dominating
win against the Buffalo Bills, and then you just throw
in a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the
map this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there
at three and five.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And that, my friends, is the Midway.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
The Midway
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some moves where they have two first round picks and
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two second round picks in twenty twenty six, three first
round picks in twenty twenty seven. Meanwhile, the Colts have
added Sauce Gardner. So which one do you want to Hey,
where do you want to take it? Do you want
to take it with the team that added or the
team that's subtracted. Let's start with a team that added.
Chaine Steiken is the head coach of the Colts. Most
(01:09):
people thought he was on the hot seat to start
the season. Danny Dimes has been really, really good. Jonathan
Taylor bean back, gives them a tremendous running back, and
now you add an elite two time All Pro cornerback
to the mix. Here's the Colts head coach on the addition.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Obviously, I'm really excited about adding Sauce Gardner to our
football team. You know, his resume speaks for itself, Pro bowler,
All Pro, So to get a guy into the building
like that, it just elevates everybody around us. So really
excited to add him to the fold. I think when
you're sticky on the back end with the coverage guys
that we got in adding him to the fold obviously,
you know that makes the quarterback probably hang onto the
(01:45):
ball a little more, which helps the pass rush, and
it goes hand in hand the same thing. Pass rush
helps the copverboards on the back end. So anytime you
add an elite player like that to the back end,
it's going to help everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think that's fair. It's gonna help everybody, right, you
gotta have help up front or in the backfield. Now
there's a couple of parts to it. Let's first say,
for the Jets, I don't like it. I love it
because you only do this if you have an owner
(02:15):
and Woody Johnson who's probably a little bit too involved,
but the owner has said, hey, I'm all in on
the coach. I'm all in on what he's doing and
what he's selling. And the only way you do this
is if the owner says, all right, look, we're not
going to win this year, let's rebuild this team. Let's
rebuild this roster, and here's how we're going to do it.
(02:38):
And if you think that this is a change in
mentality and getting rid of defensive players, it's not. It's
simply getting rid of the two guys with the most
value who have yet to sign those big long term
extensions that just bleeds you and give you the inability
to fill out your roster. The only reason you go
(03:00):
and have two first round picks, two second round picks,
three first round picks the next year is because you
want to go fix your quarterback position. And if you
think the Jets are happy with their quarterback position with
justin fields, all you have to do is look at
the owner's own quotes going back two weeks ago. What
he said, I mean, we could just complete a four.
(03:22):
You know, we just complete a pass. No one thinks
justin Fields is good enough, and the owner has said
he's not good enough, and he's got his coach, so
he gives them the ability to gut it, take it
down to the studs. Let's start over. Here's a Jets GM,
(03:43):
Darren Moogie talking about the trades he pulled up.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I know it gives us good flexibility going in to
the draft this year and next year. So excited about
having that flexibility. And you know, the draft's a long
way away. There's a lot to happen between now and
April and then, especially twenty twenty seven. You hear them
and you're like, I probably wouldn't do that, but we
have our set values. Would keep all those conversations private.
(04:07):
And when it came down to the last few days,
Indianapolis kept getting rich and richard with their value and eventually,
like I said, it was too good to pass up.
But there's I have a lot of conversations throughout the
course of the year with different gms, and this one materialized.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Stug Otleab show here on Fox Sports Tradio. What does
all this mean? We do operate under the premise, okay,
that if you're in All Pro and you get traded,
you're automatically going to be an all pro at a
new location. And even though I think the Jets valued
sauce Gardner, you if you thought he if he was
untradable because he's that good, he's untradable two first round
(04:46):
draft picks. Says it's close to untradable, but it's not untradable.
So I want you to refresh your mind on one
thing I hate when you know, how Jason, how you
hate prediction radio. What I hate is those debate shows
which start with a question from somebody in the middle
(05:08):
who offers no up opinion they're not supposed to, who says,
should the Jets trade sauce Gardener? And there is while
there's a yes and a no that producers want to
get to when you do radio or television that those
type of questions, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Do I want to trade sauce Gardener? No? Do I
want to trade sauce Gardner? If I'm one in seven,
(05:31):
I don't want to pay him a new contract, and
somebody's willing to give me two first round draft picks
for him. Well, yet, maybe maybe there's also the other
side to it, which is there is a chance that
sauce Gardener, while good, may not be as good as
(05:54):
they think. Otherwise, would you have taken two first round
draft picks because two first round draft picks, well, it
resets your clock on how much you're going to pay guys.
And it is a value because you can trade it
for several second and third round picks where you can
really load up on inexpensive talent. The fact is, all
you're hoping with those two first round draft picks is
(06:15):
that one of the players is as impactful sauce Gardner
has been throughout his career, and it hasn't been very long.
So there's a world out there where it looks like
a great trade for the Colts. They overpaid value wise
because they knew what they were getting, and yet maybe
maybe the Jets get over on them. For over forty years,
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I do think that the Jets this is like SEC football,
(06:57):
where the end of the season is going to be
terribly non competitive during times in which usually those are
the most viewed games.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, they've I mean they've They've punted on this season,
and it's it's kind of why I've never felt that
Aaron Glenn was in jeopardy of losing his job no
matter how bad things went, because, as we found out today,
Quinn Williams had been complaining all year behind the scenes,
at least quietly or requesting a trade out of town.
We knew that there was going to be changeover. It
(07:27):
didn't make much sense to have Sauce Gardner the cornerback
of his level, even if he maybe wasn't playing to
the hype that he previously was playing, He's still top
level corner and to have him on a bad team,
it's just his the compareson Because we've talked about this
for the last couple of weeks on the I Want
Your Flex podcast, is closer on a bad baseball team. Yeah,
(07:49):
it's awesome to have a guy who can go into
the ninth and get one, two, three, But what's the point. Yeah, exactly,
So it made sense for the you know, for the
Jets in that scenario. What I find so interesting at
least then that's Pacific Colts Jets deal is look at
how this Jets team was was just just crumbled into
the ruins that it is now with the build up starting,
(08:11):
like I think, we have seen the team hit rock
bottom from where it was at one point and where
it could have been. And you would think I was
blamed Aaron Rodgers. No, I actually think that Aaron Rodgers
got caught up in the rubble of all of this
and the dysfunction. But also, Doug, look at the Colts. Now,
the Colts are saying we're all in. We're gonna give
(08:32):
up two first round picks, and while they have a
great offensive line, it really means they believe in Daniel
Jones and they really, I think, want to cash in
on these this year where Jonathan Taylor remains is healthy
and knock On Wood remains healthy, because this could be
the opportunity. The one thing with Taylor throughout his career
has been all right. Is he going to get injured
at some point? He's going to miss a couple of
(08:54):
games and they're all in at this point. I really
think that they're all in for this season, and they'll
have decisions to make further down the line, and this
trade ends up reflecting that by giving away two firsts.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I agree with you, And it's one of those things
for the Colts where how often are you going to
get this opportunity? Right? The Chiefs are kind of the
Bills look beatable, not unbeatable, The Chargers are all banged up, right,
Denver's fine, Like, let's not act like Denver's spectacular and
(09:27):
if you can go for it, like, go for it, yeah,
and worry about the rest of another time. I do
think there's the possibility you mentioned that sauce Gardner is
he not playing well because he knows he's on a
crummy team and he's just not dialed in, or is
he not as good as as we thought or maybe
he used to be.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And the same thing with Quinnon Williams with his numbers
that maybe weren't up to previous seasons, and I think
that will have something to it. I think that there
there will be a boost. It's just it's it's interesting
as well when you why you're a corner when we
look at the AFC right now and you're like, what
receivers do you need to lock up? Well, there's none
(10:08):
in Buffalo, Kansas City. You're like, Okay, maybe Roshie Rice
is the guy New England, Stefan Diggs. You know, like,
there's there's that one portion of it. Pitt, Yeah, DK
Metcalf isn't really there's And that's kind of my point
of So now now I'm curious to see what the
(10:30):
Colts do with this. Is it to lock up Nico Collins?
Is it to lock up Brian Thomas junior receivers in
your division? That makes a lot of sense to do
that as well, But I'm just curious on how it's
going to play out, especially with the team in the
running for a home field in the AFC.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
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(11:16):
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Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on the other
end of it. It actually kind of I had a
sore throat last week and then Friday is when my
voice really kind of started to go south.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
So, oh, that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I woke up with a sore throat today.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That's oh, that's the start of it. Yeah, that's for me.
Throat is always step one.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But we haven't made out in weeks, so I don't.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Know, as been months.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you think we could? We could, I could get
it microphone, the microphone YouTube.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Sure, I'm not sure. Let's try right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Uh, let's let's not all right, Let's let's maintain our
social distancing. We'll get up dated from Dan in a second.
Andrew Brand joins us from executive with the pastor at Packers,
host of the Business of Sports podcast of the DraftKings Network.
He writes a comm at SI dot com and authors
the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, thanks so much for joining us.
(12:19):
Give me the financial implications, if you would, of the
Jet the Jets the old fire sale taking place, Quinn
Williams gone and Sauce Gardner gone draft picks in return.
But what are the financial implications of such trades?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Well, when you move on from a player with a
big number, you're going to take a hit on the cap. Obviously,
the cash goes away, so everything's been paid. Is now
the obligation of the cults and the cowboys what's do
on those contracts. But the hit will be in terms
of leftover accounting from the cap circumstances. But you know what,
(12:55):
it's not too terrible with these young players and the
hits for what they did with these extensions. It's in
the thirteen to twenty range for each of them. And
that's in this day and age. It's not a ton
of debt money. Let me just say this about the
contract though, especially Gardner. They structured Gardner's contract. When you
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do a big extension for a top player usually given
them big time bonus, like thirty forty fifty million dollars.
It only gave a relatively modest bonus to Gardner of
thirteen million dollars. Now, they did part with that earlier
this year, but it's an option bonus in twenty six
for twenty plus million dollars. And that tells me like
(13:37):
they wanted to keep their options open with this guy,
and the agent's acquiesced that. And it's very interesting to
me that Gardener would accept one of these contracts without
that huge upfront bonus and putting it into the second
year which gave them optionality on this deal. And Doug,
I'll say really quickly, I am not a fan of
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the in their personnel moves, but I like these deals.
I think they maximized value for these two players. They're
not going to be very good for a while. This
team is going to be awful, but they maximize value
for these two trades.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and you know, you get rid of those salaries.
And my guess would also be they load up to
try and get a quarterback and they probably use the
rest of the picks, you know, to get more picks
to get guys outside of the first round where you
don't have to pay as much money and the hit
rate is only slightly lower. Right, seems like an interesting
It seems like a logical business plan when you're gonna
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scrap it and start all over, is it not?
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It does, And we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute.
But the Colts, you know, it's one of these low
margin for error deals like hed better be Yep, Gardner
a top pick of number two three corner in the NFL.
I mean I'm looking at two number ones. I'm thinking
quarterbacks Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, and not many others. You know,
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two number ones. Wow, maybe certain, but that is just
you better be. He better be not just as good,
he better be all pro good.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, now go on to Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I just don't get it. You know, when I say
two number ones for Gardeners seemed high, it seems like
a one in a two for Williams seems really high.
They got Kenny Clark as part of the Parsons trade
to shore up the middle of that defense, and it's
been awful. So now they get a similar type player.
They're not addressing the pass rush, they're not addressing the
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slow linebacker corps. They're going to have a bad defense
with or without Quinn Williams. And then you look at
the whole total haul with the two trades, Doug. So
they give away Michael Parsons and you know, they get
back Quinn Williams and now only one number one pick
(16:03):
and Kenny Clark. It's just I just don't get it
with them. I know that Jones likes to create a
stir wherever he goes, but they are not fixing their
weakest link, which is pass rush and secondary coverage. And
they have two space heating defensive linemen out of these trades,
but that doesn't seem to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Andrew Brandt joining a former executive with the Packers, host
of the Business of Sports podcast. He writes the column
at SI dot com. He authors the Sunday seven newsletter.
Here's they get it. You go to my Sunday seven
dot com to sign up. That's my Sunday seven dot com.
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's sprinkle around a cup more in the league.
(16:48):
What are your thoughts on the Bengals and Hendrickson.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I don't get why they didn't move him, and they
obviously they didn't because they didn't feel they got good value.
But he's a free agent, so you're not going anywhere
this year, got the worst defense in the league. Why
not get something he's not staying. I would put a
stake in the ground, as you would, that Trey Henderson
is not going to be a Bengal next year as
a free agent. So I just don't get it. Like
(17:14):
take a third round pick, take a fourth round pick,
I mean, you're not going anywhere. I thought that would
be a surefire trade. I don't get it. The Bengals
defense is historically bad, and but for that, Doug, we'd
be talking about Joe Flacco, like among MVPs if they
(17:35):
had won these games that where they gave up forty
five points. I mean, it's just it's a tough situation
in Cincy.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, it is really a tough situation. Did you like
the Sam Donald move signing when it was signed?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I did, And I even thought the Vikings could I
guess I would say should have bit the bullet forty
million dollar franchise tag while still developing McCarthy coming off
a ACL so I kind of thought the Vikings would
do that, and then he was out forbid, and I
(18:14):
thought Donald would be an upgrade over Gino Smith. I've
been proven right there I didn't think Gino would be
this bad on the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I did not. I didn't think, you know, it would
be particularly good with the Raiders. I didn't think he'd
be this bad with the Raiders. He'd been nothing but solid,
nothing but solid. Okay, let's get back to the Colts.
Would you redo, would you extend Danny Dives?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
You know what I said about the trades, Doug, is
that this is the best things possible for Danny Daniel Jones,
because what you use those two number one picks for
is a quarterback. Now. I know they whiffed on Anthony Richardson,
but they would go after it again. So to me,
that is either a franchise tag or another big time
(19:00):
deal for Daniel Jones. We already got one with the Giants,
and I don't know if I'm sold get it. I
get it before last week. He's an MVP candidate. I
just don't know if I'm sold into. You know, when
he did it with the Giants, Doug, it was a
forty million dollar market. Now it's a fifty five to
sixty million market, which he'd be in his in his
(19:22):
rights to ask for. So I guess I'm predicting a
franchise tag. I just don't see a sixty million a
year for Daniel Jones. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Have you you're part of the Packers. Have you been
a part of or seen a Packers team like this
one where kind of plays the level of competition. The
good teams they played well, the bad teams they seem
to play down to the level of competition.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Yeah, still a fan, still close with people out there.
It's a it's a scratcher head the two they've lost
two games this year to the worst two teams they played.
That's just head scratching. I'll say it again. They've lost
their two games this year to the two worst teams
they've played, and they just dominated the Steelers, who beat
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the Colts at the same building. So it is curious.
I think there's a you know, there's a play with
their food sometimes mentality with the Packers. It just seems
like they have so much talent, even losing Craft. They're
getting back Jayden Reid, they have three or four dynamic receivers,
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and of course Jacobs and of course Love who I'm
still even after that horror harble one pass, I is
still a big fan of Jordan Love. So I'm still
high on the Packers along with the Eagles in that conference.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, Packers and the Eagles next Monday night at Lambeau
and it should be an absolute show. Should be a
good one. Remember, you need to go and download my
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(21:04):
Business of Sports podcast on the DraftKings Network. Of course,
you can read this stuff at si dot com, but
it's go to my Sunday seven dot com. Andrew, thanks
so much.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
For joining us.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, see you guys see the story about Tom Brady
and his dog. He cloned his dog. The first thing
is you have to establish yourself. Ryan. You can tell
us Chase dou I know, Jason, you don't have a dog. Buyer,
you don't have a dog. Ryan, I don't know if
you have a dog. I don't know. I used to Okay,
(21:35):
are you a dog guy?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yes? Yes, I love dogs.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Ok Uh, what about you there, damn By, are you
a dog person?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
We don't have a dog.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's such a it's such a you're putting me in
such an awful spot because when you say someone's not
a dog person, there looked at as the most evil
people in the world. So oh oh, come on, if
you just say that you're not a dog person, nothing
of anything against dogs, Just like I'm not a dog person,
you are put into a category you like you are.
(22:11):
You are banished.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
You might as well be Michael Vick.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No, yeah, Dan, I love you. I think you're overreacting.
I I think I asked it in a very fair
way because I think it's fair to say, like, what
you don't go is like I hate dogs. You go like, hey,
I'm just not a dog person. I got a kid,
I got a job, my wife's got a job.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Like you know.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah, I don't think that flies like, am I right?
Like with some people? Some people, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Think it's just again there there there are death. There
are always crazy people who love what they love and
think everybody's crazy if you don't love them. I am
not that guy. I'm not that person. I love dogs.
I have three currently, it's probably one too many now.
I'm not going to off any of them. It's just
(23:00):
where we are right now. I love dogs, I love cats.
I don't less Sary. I love cats. I like having
a cat. Having a cat's easy, they're super easy. But
I don't currently have one, and I totally understand that
there's lots of people like I don't cats. I don't know.
They just they kind of do their own thing. I'm
not into them. I like a dog. And then some
people like, I don't like dogs. They get in your face,
(23:22):
they smell, they stick up your house, they they do things,
and they're expensive. So no, it's okay, it's okay if
you're not into having dogs. You just got like, I'm
not really a dog person.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Okay, I think there's I think there's baseline, and I
think that there's then dog people.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So I'm a dog person. But I am not judgmental
at all of people who don't like dogs. My view
of people who don't like dogs is much like my
view of people who are who are gay. Okay, there's
more options for me. That's the way I like.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
As but.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
That I think what we need to do is we
need to go to say, Jason, are you a dog person?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Jason, are you a dog? I know Jason's not a
dog person.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Oh yes, no time. Yeah, they just lost one unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, a bad topic there.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Do you want your dog that you had to put down, which,
by the way, is the most traumatic thing ever ever? Uh?
Do you want your dog? Do you want to be cloned?
Like Tom Brady's dog was cloned?
Speaker 8 (24:26):
No, I'm creeped out, but I'm creeped out by this
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The whole thing is creepy. Let's just be honest. Like
Tom Brady, he looks like he's had plastic shirdury done.
Is that? Does anybody dispute that? I don't know it
for a fact. I'm not accusing him of it. I'm
saying what it looks like to somebody who's not as
good looking as he is. Is that Is that fair?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
It's fair? Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm again, this is not me defaming.
Oh he's he's addicted to I don't know if he
had nip tucks done. I don't know if he just
has botox. I don't know how any of that stuff works.
I'm ugly, and I'm gonna have to live with it.
That's the way it is. I do think it tracks
with everything else with Tom Brady. I just do like
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he's that guy. He's that guy that wears a suit
on the sidelines to go shake hands and take pictures
of people before an NFL game. Nobody else does. It's
like he's he's classically overdressed. He has to seemingly look
perfect his teeth. It looks like every day is a
whitening stripp day. And the fact that he had a dog,
(25:31):
and I like that, like you kind of clone a
dog anytime you have a dog that's a from a breeder. Anyway,
you know the why am I blanking on the name?
What's the great comedian?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He hated all of societal norms? Am I thinking, oh jeez.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Oh, oh, that's every comedian.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Down there. Dog?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Thanks, that was terrible. No, white guy, white guy passed away?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Oh yeah that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, white guy passed away. Older. Oh come George,
George Carlin. George Carlin would all had had a bit
where he said, like, you know, the think about it die.
Everybody makes it that to be the dog. But you
can literally take your dog when it is dead, put
it up on the counter, goes, I love this dog,
Give me one just like it, and then both you
get one just like it. Tom Brady took that to
(26:24):
the next step, Like, you know, I want to just
I literally want the dog just like it. I would
love to know if the dog behaves, has the same name,
responds to the same commands, didn't have to be trained,
or was trained the same way. It's creepy as.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Hell pet cemetery, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Oh that's a good movie.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
It's creepy.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I I don't love creepy, but okay, I mean I
have Twindy and Cold at Night. Maybe does anybody think
this is a cool story, a normal story? Does anybody
like the story? Or is everybody creeped out by it?
Like me and Jason are.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I don't think it's cool. I just not as it's
a world that I don't relate to.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Okay, that's fair. It's like it's like rich people stuff
like yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it's
like to have Nanni's.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Like when when Brady I put out, obviously he made
the announcement to also endorse this company that I'm guessing
he has a stake in, and ye that it adds
to the dirtiness the whole thing. But this is one
of the bylaws or one of the things that Colossal,
the company that cloned his dog sells to the public.
They aim to fix extinction, And to me, that just
(27:36):
just it's so unnatural to me that I'm I'm just
kind of diametrically opposed to that concept. Just let let
human life and other living beings go the way they're
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Please, Yep, yep, I think that's totally fair, totally fair.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
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What Up with You? Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports
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It's the middle of the week, the middle of the show,
the middle of the the day. We'll get to the
midway up coming. Andrew Brandt's gonna join us twenty five
after the hour. He is the host of the Business
of Sports podcast. We got a lot to talk about.
Tom Brady has cloned his dog. Huh r r. That
(28:34):
was my Scooby Doo. By the way, guys, my Scooby Doo.
You know you got NBA games, you got some college
football but it's Wednesday is kind of the calm before
the oh storm. Right. Got college hoops as well, So
there's a lot of potential storylines, but nothing that jumps
(28:55):
out at you to day other than you know, the
Jets kind of fire sale. If you will tomorrow, you
got Raiders Denver. Denver's a talking point. Tonight, you don't
have much. So let's get to the midway.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He's not getting.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Mid with you.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's time for the.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Midway.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Okay, there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man?
What are you thinking of the midway?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I really thought that Jason brought up a great point
that it's it's the midway point of the season, right Jason, Like,
this is the halfway points.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
If it's pretty simple of the mouth, there's eighteen weeks
and if you divide eighteen by two, it's nine. So
we just finished the ninth week. It's very simple. Mouth.
I'm not sure how that could be confused.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I know this one guy who like last week, was like,
it's the halfway point of the season, right now, you
take seventeen and he even asked my buddy, he goes,
what's half of seventeen? And my buddy was like, and
they're like, all right, we're in it. Oh man, what
a crazy spot right now?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Is the halfway point of the NFL season. I got
zero responses to it. I blame Ryan Smith here for
not responding. I want to know halfway through the NFL
season one of two things. What was the biggest surprise
from the first half of the season or what's the
storyline that you are looking forward to following moving forward
(30:28):
for the second half of the season. Which one do
you guys want to do? I think they're both game.
I think that I'll work in this spot. Even when
we talked about it last week. I think there's a
midway point. There's things that you can look ahead and
look back to. The reason I didn't respond was because
I thought we decided last week that we were going
(30:49):
to do that this week when I told you, they
were eighteen weeks in the NFL season. So that's why
there was no response today, because I just figured that
this was this was the given the portion of the equation, mm.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Hmm, I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season.
I like looking back, we can wonder and maybe do
next week and do the last kick the kick of
the season. I just think there's all kinds of interesting
things the culture. The most interesting they just are. I mean,
between Chris Ballard, their GM, Shane Stike in their head coach,
(31:28):
I think most people thought they were on some form
of hot seat. And remember they started this year with
Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the
fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they
had Danny Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him,
(31:48):
popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And
when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with
a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dives
been great, Jonathan Taylor has been awesome, the defense been
pretty good. Shane Styke is a tremendous play color, and
they got a shot now adding Sauce Gardner to go
(32:11):
far in the AFC playoffs, not just with how good
they are, but how beaten up and how average everybody
else is. I can't think of a more interesting story
that's different than we thought it would be than the
Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And and I think that the trepidation from people or
the people who have some questions about the Colts are
the ones who haven't watched the Colts.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
They like they are.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
They are really the Chargers ass right, like Jaseu like
they kick their ass.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
But I would rather a team turn the ball over
six times than to be uh not be able to
do anything on offense, like they didn't get their running
game going, but like they like they they lost the
game with seven, but it was probably realistically a two
score game. Sure, but to turn it over six times
means like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? And
(33:06):
I've been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in the
way that they've turned over the ball earlier in the season.
But turning over the ball sometimes, I don't think is
a sign of.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
I would have happened.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Multiple weeks in a row. It happened three weeks in
a row, like okay, now we got a pro act
correct and Jay Stu. I'm not saying the Colts are
the best team in the AMC or that's not a
sign of ooh, maybe the damn is gonna break, maybe
this team will come back down to earth. Right, I'm
not saying the question or we were trying to talk
about the midway is most interesting first half storylines that's
(33:37):
pretty interesting to me that the Colts, who none of
us were like, if you would have listed your top
eight teams or your top ten teams from the AFC
to start the year, would you have listened to the Colts.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
No, it's not a chance.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
I thought stich In and Ballard were like on the
way out.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, no question. So that's
why I would say it's again, I'm not proclaiming them
to be the best team in the AFC, to be
a super Bowl favorite. You know, there's lots of teams
they have better record than. I'm not sure they're actually
better then, But so far in the first half season,
they have shown themselves to be prett darn good, shown
themselves to be well coached, and it's the surprise of
(34:14):
the year for me how well the Colts have played
with Daniel Jones, that quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City Chiefs,
because I don't feel that we ever really look at
them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one way
or another. Starting of the year, zero and two hots over,
super Bowl hangover.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Then they go and they win.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City, best
team in the NFL, and then we see them loose
to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier,
if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs
would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four,
So who are they? They don't have a running game.
They don't have a running back right now. Their win,
(35:00):
their best win on the slate is a home win
against the Lions. It's a nice win you to take that.
Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore win lamar
Get's hurt in the game. Not that they would have
won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore isn't the same.
Win against the Giants is nothing. The Raiders they blank
(35:22):
them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good. The Commanders said,
Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just haid Josh Allen
go twenty three to twenty six against them.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
So really, how good are the Kansas City Chiefs?
Speaker 8 (35:35):
They're not a playoff team if it started today? Right?
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
And was was Sunday not the smallest biggest game of
any weekend, Like for all the hype that CBS gave
it and Jim Nantz and Tony Romo did their best
to make it sound big. It was almost like and
you kind of had to take Josh Allen's lead. After
the game. He was basically like, we haven't done anything.
Like the Bills beat the Chiefs. That's what they do.
(36:01):
They just never beat them when they have to. I
found that to be interesting. The smallest, biggest game of
the weekend Bill's Chiefs camp.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's the rivalry in the NFL, and it looks like
it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo,
which doesn't look bad. But when you dig a little
deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo is in pretty
good control for that contest.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I'm gonna say, Drake May. I'm gonna say that. I'll
say the Patriots, but Drake May. Let's focus uber focus
on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As you
guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I care
less about sports than I do about how sports is covered.
I probably follow how sports is covered too much. I
(36:48):
get real bogged down in the weeds of what people
say about it, and I like to point out contradictions
and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how the
media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay,
So let's go back at the beginning of the college
football season in twenty three, it was like Kayleb Williams,
Drake May, Drake May or Kerry Williams. They were they
(37:10):
were by far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come
out of the of the NFL draft. It was one
and two, which one do you swat? Who knows? And
then it plays out and Drake May falls, He falls
out of favor, didn't have a great last season. All
of a sudden, Jaden Daniels has taken in front of
him in the draft. Drake May plays a pretty good
(37:31):
rookie season, then gets eight, gets a Mike Rabels season
this year, and now everyone's saying, hey, if we redrafted
this whole thing, Drake May's at the top. It's obvious
it's Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways, and
Doug just said he's the MVP last segment. So I
want people to please be consistent with their coverage. That's
(37:55):
all I ask him.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Doug ad him second in the MVP. Did pick Josh
Allen over him, but more so than Patrick Mahomes. From
what the odds are saying, But yeah, you're absolutely right.
How about the Ryan Poles piece that came out where
he put together that that basically disc clip of Drake
May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he so wanted
to take Caleb Williams. I love that little nugget that
(38:20):
we got entering this season and now and now, by
the way, do we know if you would take Caleb
Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams because that was the discussion
this whole last of the season.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, absolutely right. Now are we so sure that we
want to do that?
Speaker 8 (38:36):
And you know what people are saying, Well, of course
you don't take Jade Williams because he's not He's not available.
I thought coming out of college he was the guy
that was too thin and too weak. I thought that
was the knock on him. Now you're gonna knock him
for being unavailable. What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yes? They last year was just such a funky year
for the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I have a couple other first half of the season,
the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story. And
it's a big story because, look, we've talked about about
Tua over the years. The six years he's been in
the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel
(39:20):
escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right, He was cool.
He's like a hipster coach. He's got the glasses, he's
got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's
kind of got swagged to him. Whatever has happened, there
has been an abject disaster and his GM has already
been fired. I don't know what they do it too,
(39:40):
it going going forward, and reports now are that he's safe,
but I can't see it that the season has done
well him him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the
snapshot of what the league may people think the league
may look like in ten years, to being the first
coach out that downfall has been passed.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
Why would McDaniel's job be safe if they bring in
a new GM. Isn't he just gonna pick a new
head coach. Isn't that the train of thought? Or they're
actually gonna keep the head coach?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't
think it's safe. But they have said, and they leaked
to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike Dane
you're gonna be safe, Like, what are they gonna say?
You know, if you say, hey, good be coaching for
his job. Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, but it's the
public statement.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than
Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work
rather than let go people like man remember the stephen A.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look
for your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with
now is this team for the next eight weeks?
Speaker 8 (40:53):
I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about
the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, he's a big Raiders guy.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yes, I want to know how in the world did
the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one?
Speaker 6 (41:06):
How how did that happen?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You got throughout Week one results?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, Like
how there?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I'll tell you what Survivor pools. I was on New
England week one, lost one of my entries. They played
a good half against the Raiders and then the Raiders
for whatever reason, outclass them. Gino what threw for like
three hundred and seventy yards? There was no Christian Gonzales
for New England at that point. Then the next week
the Patriots got into a bit of a shootout against
(41:39):
the Dolphins. That was a close contest, but New England
ends up winning it in the end. So New England
was close to maybe starting the year zero to two
with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins, and now they're
sitting there seven to two atop the conference. And honestly,
I don't want to say look unbeatable, because they could
have very well lost to the to the Falcons, but
(41:59):
they we're in control of that game against Atlanta and
now look like a formidable opponent that come playoff on.
Speaking of the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean,
we love Bejon Robinson, we love the running game. That
division looked like it was up for grabs, and then
(42:22):
they play on Monday Night and they have a dominating
win against the Buffalo Bills, and then you just throw
in a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the
map this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there
at three and five.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And that, my friends, is the Midway.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
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