February 11, 2019 • 30 mins
Doug reacts to the breaking news from the NFL: the Cleveland Browns signed controversial RB Kareem Hunt and Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray officially declared he is choosing the NFL over professional baseball. He also talks to Ethan Strauss from The Athletic about his beef with Kevin Durant and what’s wrong with the Celtics.
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I hope you're having a great day. And uh, I
sat down today. I actually did the Dan Patrick Show
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with Jason Smith earlier day and I thought, ma'am, we're
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are we have to reach this point and I think
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and I think we're beginning to reach the point of
reasonable punishment. Foresaid crime right. Like one of the great
things about um, about the laws of our government is
there's no double jeopardy. No double jeopardy the idea of
note you can't be tried twice for the same crime.
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And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with
the news of the day. That's the Kareem Hunt, who,
of course, was exiled from the league, and rightfully so
after some video emerged of him a couple of years
ago laying his hands on a woman. It wasn't good.
And today he signs with the Cleveland Browns. Now the
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stats are as a rookie, he led the league in
rushing with seven yards. The stats are this past year
eleven games. In eleven games in his production had slipped
because they become more of a throwing team. But he
also had seven touchdown receptions and he had he'd run
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for seven touchdowns as well. He'd run for eight d
twenty four yards, so he's well on his way to
over a thousand yards in two consecutive seasons. Is he
a superstar, No, But is he a really really good player?
The answer is yes. And part of why he got
another opportunity was because John Dorsey, the gentlemanager of the
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Cleveland Browns, was in that front office with the Kansas
City Chiefs when they drafted Kareem Hunt. Going back to
uh spring of two thousand seventeen, that was that was
before he was he was relieved of his duties. What's
fascinating about this, though, is going to be the vitriol
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that he rightfully receives from many in the public. First,
you're gonna hear Will Coo and Kaepernick. That doesn't really matter,
right We're comparing Kareem Hunt, whose issue we know or
issues we know, as opposed to Colin Kaepernick, who we
we can't even begin to dig into understanding whether or
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not he wants to play football or not. Right Like,
if Colin Kaepernick really want to play football, wouldn't he
be playing in the the the American Football Alliance? Wouldn't
he The other thing you're gonna hear is NFL doesn't
care about women. Look, I care about women. I I'm
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married to one for eighteen years, eighteen and a half years.
I've I've procreated with that same one to have two
daughters of my own. I have a mom, I have
a mother in law. Like I'm not in any way
anti woman. But I also know that while the sentence
should be severe, it is not, nor should it be
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a death sentence to one's career. It shouldn't. So look,
I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm doing back clips.
I don't care that Kareem Hunt is in the NFL
not in the NFL. I just understand the reasonable nature
to it. And I don't know if we as Like
I was sitting there talking to my wife last night
and I said, Man, we're in such a weird place.
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We're in such she she's become an avid follower of politics,
and um, when you have somebody on any of these
political shows to support one side or the other, and
that's the only guests that will appear there, there's no
reasonable nature in how they answer questions. They will only
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answer questions from their side's perspective, right from their sides perspective.
If you're pro Trump, then any anybody else who's out there,
when you're asked a question about the like a reasonable
question that would say that the president who you support
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has done something wrong, you you instead of even answering
the question, you simply attack the other side. And the
same is true for the antitrump people. There is no
reasonable gray area where the rest of the world actually
seems to or used to live. And that's the truth
to it. The world is gray, and political news tries
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to make it out to being black and white. And
what's happened with sports is it's become a lot like
political news, where it's you're in the league until you're
out of the league, and when you're out of the league,
you're out, and that's that. There's a there's a gray
area there, and the gray area is with Kareem Hunt,
it's like a look, he was humiliated, he lost his job,
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he lost a chance to go to the Super Bowl,
all of this rightfully, So that is that is punishment.
He lost a lot of money, he lost credibility and
credibility as well, and so he'll wear the scarlet letter
of being an abuser of women for the rest of
the foreseeable future. But but just like Tyreek Hill who
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lost his scholarship to Oklahoma State and fell in the
draft in spite of the fact that he might be
the fastest player to ever play in the National Football League,
there is and should be for the right person who's
reasonable in their acceptance of their failures a second chance.
So again I'm not sitting here telling you God live
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pro women abusers like no. I mean there there is
no real of course anti but I also don't believe
in a career death penalty for a first time offense.
If you dig in and you find out that that
person accepts responsibility, grows from it, and there has to
be some sort of punishment. I got no problem losing
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your job, but I do think this is one that
you can come back from and let's see if you
can become of a you know, somebody who's a productive
member of not just society but the National Football League.
I think that's a reasonable thought to have. The the
other part two it is, you know, if you completely
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crush somebody's career and their ability to make money. And
this is something I don't know how much it will
be discussed it. It stands to reason though, that you're
gonna stop some women from coming out. There's already there's
already the the victims shaming in America, and we do this.
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They do this in other countries where if somebody comes
out with negative information about a professional athlete or negative
information about anybody, instead of deciphering the information and giving
a legitimate alibi or an explanation. Instead we go after
the victim, which is wrong. But if Kareem Hunt never
plays football again, and in this case it's not the case,
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but in a priv if it's if it's somebody who's
your significant other and you depend upon them for spousal
support because you have a kid, Like I'd be cautious
if I'm a woman about coming out and outing somebody
as an abuser. Why because they'll never be able to
make money ever again. So I don't think this is
an unreasonable, unreasonable timeline or unreasonable way for Kareem Hunt
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to get back in the Nation Football League. But I
do wonder. I wonder if we as Americans, we as
sports fans, are reasonable in our acceptance of people go
to counseling, people get a second chance, and we'll see
what he does with that second chance. This is the
Doug Gotli Show here in Fox Sports Radio. We'll get
to the Kyler Murray stuff, which I I believe I
was the first. I know it's the first national guy.
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I don't know about local guys. I do some stuff
in Oklahoma City. I don't remember them any any of them,
suggesting that they all just assumed he was gonna go baseball,
and I said it all along like I think it should,
and we'll go football because I think his draft stock
will go up. But it's a weird thing because even
though I was a proponent of him going to play football,
I would not be a proponent of drafting him to
be on my football team. We'll talk about that upcoming.
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Michael Lombardi is gonna join us. Ethan Strauss, who has
been the crosshairs of Kevin Durant, is going to join
us later on the show, and so too will Jim Jackson.
We'll talk some NBA. We'll talk some college hoop with
Jim Jackson in the third and final hour of the
show before we get to Chris Haynes, who are our
first guest NBA insider, does a great job for Yahoo Sports.
I actually wanted to defend Magic Johnson for a second.
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Magic Johnson, of course, is the was the president of
the l A Lakers, and look Magic is He is
all smile, He is all goss g shucks. He has
the confidence slash arrogance of a former great player who
wants to be a great executive. Who truly believes he
was a part of the rebirth of the Dodgers. He
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has not been perfect, but when he was asked if
they operated in good faith talking about the New Orleans Pelicans,
he said, no, they didn't take a listen to Magic
Johnson yesterday. Basically, at the end of the day, what
happened happened, and we doubts when we first started, but hey,
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it is what it is. I'm gonna say this again
with making this about thinking these guys are babies, because
that's what you're treating them about. Their professionals, all of them.
And this is how this league works. They know it,
I know it. That's how it goes. Yeah, so look,
Magic is is sitting there trying to go old school. Hey,
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toughen up. If your name is mentioned, you can't quit,
you can't stop playing. There's an emotional nature to any
any of these guys in their twenties. Like I feel
like guys in their twenties have always been emotional, and
these are, you know, like kids these days are even
more emotional because they're so tied to their phones and
so tied to how they're viewed in the world, and
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so tied to their own value. Everybody's told that the
greatest from the time that they start playing any sport. Ever.
I mean that there's a portion of it that that's that,
But the other portion of it is, hey, all this
info is coming from the Pelicans, and that's so Magic
was talking about like they couldn't control any narrative because
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they weren't talking to anybody. They were simply trying to
get a deal done, and the Pelicans were using it
to show everybody how tick they were. They were doing
it out of spite, right like that, that's all they're
doing the Pelicans. The Pelicans were the soon to be
x who goes to a party and just gets completely
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slashed and makes an ass of themselves, as the Pelicans are.
By the way, I don't know if you've paid pay
any attention to this, but the Pelicans wanted to shut
They want to shut down Anthony Davis for the rest
of the year, which doesn't make much sense to me.
It's the bubble wrap. Hey, we're gonna we know we're
gonna trade him, and we want a tank, so we're
gonna not play, which no one does. Most people do
what they're essentially being forced to do, which is play
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Anthony Davis and they're not playing him in the fourth quarter.
But if you don't think that the league is pissed
at the Pelicans, not just the Lakers for trying to
to poach players, but the Pelicans. That's why they're threatening
to find a hundred thousand dollars to Anthony Avis if
he doesn't play, even though he's not hurt. But I'll
defend Magic Johnson. That was the Pelicans just simply out
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of spite, trying to make them look bad, trying to
poison the well on some levels at works. Be sure
to catch live editions so the Doug Dot Leap Show
weekdays at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Um Kyler Murray
made it official today He's gonna pursue football, not baseball.
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And I believed it was first mentioned on this show
December ten. Yeah, that's right, December ten. I said, Hey, look,
first I told you he was gonna win the Heisman
before when everybody had to gonna win the Heisman. I
just thought, you know, part of it is he got
more opportunities to make plays in the fourth quarter late
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in these big games, and obviously that was before you
know two have got pulled in the SEC championship game
and he got pulled because he had a bad ankle
and he wasn't playing well. Part of it was system,
part of it was talent and how good he is.
And when I talk to the the NFL people and they're like, look, man,
that's Mike Vick speed and Doug Flute size like and
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they were saying they're in, of course in college football
you should be. In December tenth, I was the first
one to say he should play football, not baseball. And
the thinking was very It wasn't you you'll get football,
gotta go. You gotta pursue what you love. You also
have to have a smart business sense, and the smart
business sense was if you do baseball, you get paid
up front. You paid a couple million bucks, and that's
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money that I've never had. I'm sure he's never had.
It's just it's hard to turn down that money. But
then you don't get any money, essentially real money, until
your fifth year playing Major League baseball, which could be
six or seven years away. Even if you're writing in
your contract where you can only spend a year and
a half in the minor leagues. You're you're six years
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away from getting legitimately paid, and you've got to be
good in order to get legitimately paid. The baseball thing
is so overdone, oversold how great it is in comparison
to every other sport. It's good, but it's great for
a small selection of guys at the very top of
the sport. And there's no promise that Kyler Murray, at
all of five ft nine and one great year, really
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good year in college baseball, is going to be that guy.
And look, I mean even Bryce Harper, and and I
could sit here and tell you Bryce Harper is not
gonna get what he thought he'd get, and so maybe
he ends up settling for you know, three or four
years at plus thirty million dollars, and that's that's elite
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quarterback money. The difference is, remember, right, you still have
to go through some form of minor leagues. And Bryce Harper,
this isn't his first go round with being a pro.
He's been a pro for a couple of years. In football,
you're in the league, you're in the league, and if
you're a first round pick, you're a starting quarterback, usually
almost always in year one. So he's gonna a chance,
and the question is can they find the right fit
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and can you make some plays. I think this was
an easy, no brainer decision for a guy who had
two great decisions, he could make, two great decisions he
could make. So Kyler Murray, I mean, look this, and
this is not he doesn't want to play for the
A's who took him ninth overall, but he is going
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to play baseball and somebody's gonna take him, and somebody's
gonna take him really really early, probably too early in
the draft. What's the other part that's interesting? And this
is you know, I used to get accused, you guys,
remember when u Cela made the tournament just like three
or four years ago, and I said, there's nobody on
earth who actually belong believes they belong in. And then
we come around to picking the teams and I picked
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them to go to the sweet sixteen, and people are like,
what are you talking about? How can you say they
don't belong in? Then say they win some games? Like well,
because winning games is not about belonging in. It's about matchups.
And you know it's there's a slight margin there. I
would say the opposite about Kyler Murray. Cayler Murray is
going to be a first round draft pick. I just
wouldn't draft him. I just wouldn't draft be sure to
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catch live editions, so the Doug Dot Leaps show week
days at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. Athan Strouss rights
to the Athletic he's an NBA insider and apparently now
he's persona on grouted in Golden State. Makes you respect
to me even more. Not because I don't like the Warriors,
but I just like when guys do their jobs and uh,
and some athletes have trouble with them doing their jobs?
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Is that what happened? Let's let's ask Ethan Strouse. He
joins his card. Remember last week, that's when Kevin Durant
hadn't met with the meeting in a couple of weeks.
Sits down and tells them to grow up, and then
schools Ethan Strauss because he believes that he was jotting
things down to a notebook and not actually talking to KD.
What really happened, Ethan? Well, first of all, I resent
being told to grow up, because hey, I didn't choose
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this job of talking about sports all day because I
wanted to grow up. Okay, this is this is about
this is about protracted adolessons forever. So that's number one
and number two. I think you summed it up. I
think you summed up. You know, this became this wide
ranging media conversation when really it's pretty simple if you
want to synthesize it down to a sentence. I talked
about something you didn't want to talked about. That's kind
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of what it is. And there there was a lot
of smoke in mirrors. There are a lot of accusations.
I mean today he was talking about how he doesn't
like when writers come up to him and talk to
him and then go behind his back. So I'm not
even sure which is it. Before I wasn't talking to him.
Now I talked to him and I went behind his back.
It doesn't really hold together for me. Again, simply put,
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talked about something you didn't want to talked about, and
he's bad. Okay, I guess my My question my pushback
to you would be, is there any answer you can
get from him that would satisfy people? Right? Because if
he says I'm staying well, when he could change his mind,
but people don't think you can actually change your mind.
And he can't say that he's planning on leaving, right,
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and if he gives an answer like, well, you know,
if he gives the Kyrie answer, which is talked to
me July one, well then we just assumed that he's
leaving even though we don't and actually know, like, is
there a real answer that would satisfy our insatiable need
to know before everybody else knows. Yeah, there might not
be an answer that would satisfy him per his reputation management, right.
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I mean, typically, the way Lebron has handled this is
similar to the way that Kyrie, Uh, the aforementioned Kyrie
has handled it, where he says, look, I want to
talk about my team. I'm not going to talk about
other teams right now. I talk about my team. I
don't get involved in this free agency stuff. I think
that actually works because this whole thing, it just became
based on this false premise that he's getting bombarded with
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these questions every day. Uh, he is not, as Tim
Cala Kami or Tim Cala Kami at The Athletic Subscribe
Today said he was the only Bay Area journalist who
ask Kevin or Ran about free agency, and it was
back in September. Generally, the way these press conferences work
because they are day of the game, after the game practice.
They're focused on the day to day grind. It's what
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happened in this game. You know, what did you think
about when this occurred? How is the team doing? Blah
blah blah. Suddenly all these people were defending k d um,
you know, and it's it would be very reasonable. I
don't expect fans necessarily know how it goes based on Oh,
he doesn't want to get you know, keep getting asked
this all the time. He's not getting asked this all
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the time. He just disappeared for over a week and
I guess anticipation of being asked about it. But that's
not really what was happening. Um, last night he was
great statistically. I know he had a bad turnover late.
Steph had a bad turnover late and frankly, he double
dribbled what would have been another bad turnover before he
found DeMarcus Cousins for what became the game winning shot. Um,
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how much of the burner accounts and the media missteps
have covered up the fact that you know, like steps
had these these these shooting slumps that I don't remember
him having recently, Clay has had kind of for a
while season long shooting slumps. The only to pull out
of it, Um, you know Draymond and he he started
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making some shots, but he went a good three months
without making a shot. And there are a different team
without DeMarcus Cousins. Like, how much of this has actually
covered up the fact that he's been their most consistent
best player. Oh, he's an amazing basketball player and jeez,
he's great. Is fairly unimpeachable when it comes to all
of that, and they've won fifteen out of sixteen. Um,
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That's what's funny about this entire embro leo is just
how it's happening concurrent with the team's greatest success this season. So, uh,
it's funny. You just wonder why is there such a
need for this? Why is there such a defensiveness considering
that he need not defend anything, And maybe it is
connected to and I think that there's a lot to
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indicate that is connected to he doesn't ever really get
the love that might be commensurate with his level of play.
That he has two finals wps back to back. He
hits the biggest shot in Lebron's face. We don't reorder
our order of the greatest players. We don't say, now
Katie the best player. We say Katie might not even
be the best player on his own team. And so
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I think that there is some inks to that that
might be informing this entire, uh, this entire look at me,
uh sequence that he's putting on. That's the whole thing,
isn't the whole thing? Is this yearning for respect and admiration.
I think that's a big thing for a lot of
these guys, and in the social media era, it's harder
to feel fulfillment. Perhaps, so we want to get big
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picture and broader about it. How many NBA superstars are
happy currently, even if they're in good situations. It seems
like we are in this odd period of time in
the NBA. We're almost every superstar has one foot out
the door. At least, you know, we can talk about
Katie and speculate on the free agency, his free ancient
team where he might go, But we can also talk
about Jimmy Butler or Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis two feet
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out the door, my god, and I might even be
forgetting a guy or two. Oh yeah, Kawhi Leonard. Uh,
We've never been at a moment in time quite like this.
It has something to do with the CBA, but it
also might have something to do with how guys perhaps
aren't getting as much fulfillment for what they want for
the ego as they did in the past. You know, Um,
it's interesting you bring that up, the level of unhappiness,
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but also the outward discussion about their level of unhappiness.
How much of of of this, uh is A is
a bad showing by Adam Silver. I bring this up
because look, I've I've talked to some NFL people like
this would never happen in our league, and like people
want to criticize our commissioner, but it just and some
of it's the collector bar agreement. Some of it is
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the popularity of players you can see their faces. But
some of it is also that that Adam Silver is
very much a player first commissioner and he has allowed
these guys to, uh, you know, be free to be themselves.
And it doesn't it ain't great for owners, especially these
small market teams where so many pete players want to
want to get out as soon as they possibly can
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get out. So let me get this straight. You want
KD mad at me and the commissioner of the NBA
to get bad at me as they follow you down
the straight of thought, and this is the invitation currently. Um,
I think it is a legitimate question, though I would
say this right now, there's an interesting conversation about the
NBA is owning the news cycles super Bowl week, everyone
talking about the NBA amazing. They just completely completely eclipse
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the NFL, except Super Bowl happens over a hundred million
people watch it, and we're not seeing such great results
of the NBA ratings. And so while Twitter might be
dominated by this game of thrones that we are all
hooked to as the super NBA fans and big time
sports fans, the general public, what are they really getting
from it? What message is getting delivered. If you're in Boston,
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a major market team with a rich, deep history, what
you get from it is that Kyrie Irving forced his
way out of Cleveland and now, in a situation that
seems very prime for a good future, is unhappy and
is signaling dissatisfaction. And they're just getting a lot of
messaging from NBA players of I'm not happy. This isn't
good for my brand. I want out. And while maybe
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the NBA players always were mercenaries, maybe they never really
cared about these cities. Are these teams the fans need
to believe in Malia a little bit, and the current
way that the messaging is going destroys that line. It's
a great stuff. Ethan Strouss joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What do you make
of the Lakers? I thought, I thought before the injuries,
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they were pretty good. I mean, top seven in all
the defensive metrics, and they just needed a couple of
shot makers. But then Lebron gets hurt game. I know
you were watching as the rest of the world was
on Christmas Day. They win in spite of it. Kuzma
had has had a back issue, He's missed a couple
of games. Rondo is hurt now a Lonzo is hurt,
and and then they've just had uneven performances like the
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absolute dud yesterday. Where are we you know in February
here Lebron year one with the Lakers. It's scuffles, Bill,
it's and it has changed. I like that you talked
about how good they looked earlier. You know you wouldn't
be so crazy, seeing at one point that they might
they might threaten to be the that can best team
in the West, and that was all fallen apart. And look,
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I don't know how to really measure the failure of
this trade on what's going on in the locker room
and how guys feel and how they're going to play,
But you just have to assume that it can't be
good to have nearly the entire team shopped and then
and then have that thward it. So I don't know
what my take on them is other than what a
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mess currently. It's just it's just such a mess. It
seems like they played it wrong, that they didn't understand
their leverage and or the lack thereof, and they went
full speed ahead. And hey, you know, credit them for boldness,
but sometimes when you take bold risks, there are some
there's some consequences. Now now they've told me that like
it ain't even their package was even close to what
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was being portrayed in the media. And of course they've
gone on and said, hey, this is all coming from
the Pelicans. Why couldn't they do a better job of
controlling the messaging? Why why did the Pelicans kind of
control that that whole messaging thing. That's a great question.
I think the Pelicans might have had a little more
sympathy because of the situation they were in. Maybe they
had some some better connections with media, But it doesn't
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make sense. You would think you'd have the bully pulp
it out there in Los Angeles and you're connected to
a lot of media, and then theory you could really
control your messaging and promote your view of things. But
it seems as though currently it's only Lakers fans who
feel like the wrong party or feel like they were
the wrong team in this whole endeavor. Everybody else, everybody
else sees it the other way and just sees effectively
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the Lakers trying to a bully a smaller market team
and force them into a deal that wasn't beneficial. That
does seem to be the overriding a view of how
this whole thing happens. It's fair enough, Doug Gallup show
here on Fox Sports Radio. And then quietly it seems
like everyone has forgotten that Kawhi Leonard is going to
be a free agent, um uh, and that look, they're good,
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but they're not as good as the Bucks. There's this
assumption in Los Angeles that he's going to be a Clipper.
Is that the assumption that people in the NBA make.
I think that's what most people think, and we should
be clear that a lot can change between now and
now in July. But he did buy a home in
northern San Diego County, so not deep in San Diego,
closer to where you would actually make it, you know,
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a journey up there in Rancho Santa Fe, which incidentally
is also where Steve Kerr lives. I mean, must be
a nice neighborhood. It's also where Bill Gates live. Uh.
And Philip Rivers, who who makes his commute to the
l A Chargers from from Rancho Santa Fe, so decent
digs over there. But buying a house for thirteen point
three million dollars in southern California, sure, you know, maybe
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these guys like to live in Southern California in the
off season. So you can't read too much into it,
but that would seem to be an indicator, uh, in
the favor of the Clippers. So I I do think
that is the that is the assumption. But man, that
move they just made is an interesting move. And what
is he really going to leave if the Raptors make
a run to the finals or win the championship. We
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don't know, but it's going to add a whole lot
of intrigue this postseason. Yeah. Um, where we haven't talked
about Janice or about James Harden. Uh. Janice seems to
play the other end better. Janice's numbers are ridiculous, but
Harden has been on this, you know, consecutive scoring streak
that that is ridiculous. On the other hand, he really
is dominating the ball. Whether they have Chris Paul or
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don't have Chris Paul. Who do people inside the NBA
think has had the best season thus far? I think Harden,
And maybe that's incumbency. Maybe that's incumbency. But it is
interesting if you want to draw a parallel. Janice is
in a way the opposite of Steph. But he's also
a little bit analogous to Steph Uh in the first
title season in terms of the team where you have
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a team who they're not totally out of nowhere, but
they got rid of the coach who might not have
been the best coach and now they're super charged with
this esthetically pleasing offense. And they're just killing these other
teams in the regular season, yet nobody believes in them,
and they have this very likable superstar who nobody has
anything bad to say about, who's powering the whole thing.
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So it's funny. There's just so many parallels between the
Milwaukee Bucks, and forgive me for making it to the
local situation that I'm privy to. So I've got to
I've got a real eye on them because it seems
as though nobody buys them and they can't do anything
to sell people on them in the regular season. Uh
So I just can't wait to see what happens in
the postseason. Um, you're you are you're writing a book
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on the Warriors. That that's part of what you're doing
and hanging around the Warriors all the time, right, I
am writing a book about the Warriors. It will come
out next year. It will come out, and man, they're
giving me a lot of material, a whole lot of material. Hmm.
That's uh, that is that is fascinating. What's what's the
premise of the book? Well, the premises basically that this
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is a dynasty that we have seen rise up and
it's just all the more interesting to me to see
it try to be maintained, and for whatever reason, those
sorts of fissures, those sorts of that sort of maintenance
seems to capture people's attention more so than the rise.
The rise is easy. This stuff is a little bit hard. Really.
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Dealing with the disease of more is hard. And that's
why we focus on Shack and Kobe and what happened.
That's why he breaks in the game. We focus on
why couldn't the Blazers maintain? Maybe the Warriors will maintain,
Maybe they'll figure it out, Maybe we'll keep this thing
going in the way it's been going. But that's not
going to be nearly as easy a process as getting
to the top in the first place. So that's what
I'm writing about. Oh, you write about the fall of
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Rome or the maintenance of Rome, the maintenance of maintenance,
of maintenance of m fair fair enough. We'll we'll see
if rom falls or if it maintains. Ethan Strouss and
the Athletic great stuff, dude, Thanks for joining us, Thanks
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are we have to reach this point and I think
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and I think we're beginning to reach the point of
reasonable punishment. Foresaid crime right. Like one of the great
things about um, about the laws of our government is
there's no double jeopardy. No double jeopardy the idea of
note you can't be tried twice for the same crime.
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And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with
the news of the day. That's the Kareem Hunt, who,
of course, was exiled from the league, and rightfully so
after some video emerged of him a couple of years
ago laying his hands on a woman. It wasn't good.
And today he signs with the Cleveland Browns. Now the
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stats are as a rookie, he led the league in
rushing with seven yards. The stats are this past year
eleven games. In eleven games in his production had slipped
because they become more of a throwing team. But he
also had seven touchdown receptions and he had he'd run
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for seven touchdowns as well. He'd run for eight d
twenty four yards, so he's well on his way to
over a thousand yards in two consecutive seasons. Is he
a superstar, No, But is he a really really good player?
The answer is yes. And part of why he got
another opportunity was because John Dorsey, the gentlemanager of the
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Cleveland Browns, was in that front office with the Kansas
City Chiefs when they drafted Kareem Hunt. Going back to
uh spring of two thousand seventeen, that was that was
before he was he was relieved of his duties. What's
fascinating about this, though, is going to be the vitriol
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that he rightfully receives from many in the public. First,
you're gonna hear Will Coo and Kaepernick. That doesn't really matter,
right We're comparing Kareem Hunt, whose issue we know or
issues we know, as opposed to Colin Kaepernick, who we
we can't even begin to dig into understanding whether or
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not he wants to play football or not. Right Like,
if Colin Kaepernick really want to play football, wouldn't he
be playing in the the the American Football Alliance? Wouldn't
he The other thing you're gonna hear is NFL doesn't
care about women. Look, I care about women. I I'm
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married to one for eighteen years, eighteen and a half years.
I've I've procreated with that same one to have two
daughters of my own. I have a mom, I have
a mother in law. Like I'm not in any way
anti woman. But I also know that while the sentence
should be severe, it is not, nor should it be
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a death sentence to one's career. It shouldn't. So look,
I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm doing back clips.
I don't care that Kareem Hunt is in the NFL
not in the NFL. I just understand the reasonable nature
to it. And I don't know if we as Like
I was sitting there talking to my wife last night
and I said, Man, we're in such a weird place.
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We're in such she she's become an avid follower of politics,
and um, when you have somebody on any of these
political shows to support one side or the other, and
that's the only guests that will appear there, there's no
reasonable nature in how they answer questions. They will only
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answer questions from their side's perspective, right from their sides perspective.
If you're pro Trump, then any anybody else who's out there,
when you're asked a question about the like a reasonable
question that would say that the president who you support
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has done something wrong, you you instead of even answering
the question, you simply attack the other side. And the
same is true for the antitrump people. There is no
reasonable gray area where the rest of the world actually
seems to or used to live. And that's the truth
to it. The world is gray, and political news tries
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to make it out to being black and white. And
what's happened with sports is it's become a lot like
political news, where it's you're in the league until you're
out of the league, and when you're out of the league,
you're out, and that's that. There's a there's a gray
area there, and the gray area is with Kareem Hunt,
it's like a look, he was humiliated, he lost his job,
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he lost a chance to go to the Super Bowl,
all of this rightfully, So that is that is punishment.
He lost a lot of money, he lost credibility and
credibility as well, and so he'll wear the scarlet letter
of being an abuser of women for the rest of
the foreseeable future. But but just like Tyreek Hill who
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lost his scholarship to Oklahoma State and fell in the
draft in spite of the fact that he might be
the fastest player to ever play in the National Football League,
there is and should be for the right person who's
reasonable in their acceptance of their failures a second chance.
So again I'm not sitting here telling you God live
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pro women abusers like no. I mean there there is
no real of course anti but I also don't believe
in a career death penalty for a first time offense.
If you dig in and you find out that that
person accepts responsibility, grows from it, and there has to
be some sort of punishment. I got no problem losing
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your job, but I do think this is one that
you can come back from and let's see if you
can become of a you know, somebody who's a productive
member of not just society but the National Football League.
I think that's a reasonable thought to have. The the
other part two it is, you know, if you completely
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crush somebody's career and their ability to make money. And
this is something I don't know how much it will
be discussed it. It stands to reason though, that you're
gonna stop some women from coming out. There's already there's
already the the victims shaming in America, and we do this.
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They do this in other countries where if somebody comes
out with negative information about a professional athlete or negative
information about anybody, instead of deciphering the information and giving
a legitimate alibi or an explanation. Instead we go after
the victim, which is wrong. But if Kareem Hunt never
plays football again, and in this case it's not the case,
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but in a priv if it's if it's somebody who's
your significant other and you depend upon them for spousal
support because you have a kid, Like I'd be cautious
if I'm a woman about coming out and outing somebody
as an abuser. Why because they'll never be able to
make money ever again. So I don't think this is
an unreasonable, unreasonable timeline or unreasonable way for Kareem Hunt
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to get back in the Nation Football League. But I
do wonder. I wonder if we as Americans, we as
sports fans, are reasonable in our acceptance of people go
to counseling, people get a second chance, and we'll see
what he does with that second chance. This is the
Doug Gotli Show here in Fox Sports Radio. We'll get
to the Kyler Murray stuff, which I I believe I
was the first. I know it's the first national guy.
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I don't know about local guys. I do some stuff
in Oklahoma City. I don't remember them any any of them,
suggesting that they all just assumed he was gonna go baseball,
and I said it all along like I think it should,
and we'll go football because I think his draft stock
will go up. But it's a weird thing because even
though I was a proponent of him going to play football,
I would not be a proponent of drafting him to
be on my football team. We'll talk about that upcoming.
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Michael Lombardi is gonna join us. Ethan Strauss, who has
been the crosshairs of Kevin Durant, is going to join
us later on the show, and so too will Jim Jackson.
We'll talk some NBA. We'll talk some college hoop with
Jim Jackson in the third and final hour of the
show before we get to Chris Haynes, who are our
first guest NBA insider, does a great job for Yahoo Sports.
I actually wanted to defend Magic Johnson for a second.
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Magic Johnson, of course, is the was the president of
the l A Lakers, and look Magic is He is
all smile, He is all goss g shucks. He has
the confidence slash arrogance of a former great player who
wants to be a great executive. Who truly believes he
was a part of the rebirth of the Dodgers. He
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has not been perfect, but when he was asked if
they operated in good faith talking about the New Orleans Pelicans,
he said, no, they didn't take a listen to Magic
Johnson yesterday. Basically, at the end of the day, what
happened happened, and we doubts when we first started, but hey,
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it is what it is. I'm gonna say this again
with making this about thinking these guys are babies, because
that's what you're treating them about. Their professionals, all of them.
And this is how this league works. They know it,
I know it. That's how it goes. Yeah, so look,
Magic is is sitting there trying to go old school. Hey,
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toughen up. If your name is mentioned, you can't quit,
you can't stop playing. There's an emotional nature to any
any of these guys in their twenties. Like I feel
like guys in their twenties have always been emotional, and
these are, you know, like kids these days are even
more emotional because they're so tied to their phones and
so tied to how they're viewed in the world, and
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so tied to their own value. Everybody's told that the
greatest from the time that they start playing any sport. Ever.
I mean that there's a portion of it that that's that,
But the other portion of it is, hey, all this
info is coming from the Pelicans, and that's so Magic
was talking about like they couldn't control any narrative because
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they weren't talking to anybody. They were simply trying to
get a deal done, and the Pelicans were using it
to show everybody how tick they were. They were doing
it out of spite, right like that, that's all they're
doing the Pelicans. The Pelicans were the soon to be
x who goes to a party and just gets completely
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slashed and makes an ass of themselves, as the Pelicans are.
By the way, I don't know if you've paid pay
any attention to this, but the Pelicans wanted to shut
They want to shut down Anthony Davis for the rest
of the year, which doesn't make much sense to me.
It's the bubble wrap. Hey, we're gonna we know we're
gonna trade him, and we want a tank, so we're
gonna not play, which no one does. Most people do
what they're essentially being forced to do, which is play
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Anthony Davis and they're not playing him in the fourth quarter.
But if you don't think that the league is pissed
at the Pelicans, not just the Lakers for trying to
to poach players, but the Pelicans. That's why they're threatening
to find a hundred thousand dollars to Anthony Avis if
he doesn't play, even though he's not hurt. But I'll
defend Magic Johnson. That was the Pelicans just simply out
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of spite, trying to make them look bad, trying to
poison the well on some levels at works. Be sure
to catch live editions so the Doug Dot Leap Show
weekdays at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Um Kyler Murray
made it official today He's gonna pursue football, not baseball.
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And I believed it was first mentioned on this show
December ten. Yeah, that's right, December ten. I said, Hey, look,
first I told you he was gonna win the Heisman
before when everybody had to gonna win the Heisman. I
just thought, you know, part of it is he got
more opportunities to make plays in the fourth quarter late
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in these big games, and obviously that was before you
know two have got pulled in the SEC championship game
and he got pulled because he had a bad ankle
and he wasn't playing well. Part of it was system,
part of it was talent and how good he is.
And when I talk to the the NFL people and they're like, look, man,
that's Mike Vick speed and Doug Flute size like and
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they were saying they're in, of course in college football
you should be. In December tenth, I was the first
one to say he should play football, not baseball. And
the thinking was very It wasn't you you'll get football,
gotta go. You gotta pursue what you love. You also
have to have a smart business sense, and the smart
business sense was if you do baseball, you get paid
up front. You paid a couple million bucks, and that's
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money that I've never had. I'm sure he's never had.
It's just it's hard to turn down that money. But
then you don't get any money, essentially real money, until
your fifth year playing Major League baseball, which could be
six or seven years away. Even if you're writing in
your contract where you can only spend a year and
a half in the minor leagues. You're you're six years
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away from getting legitimately paid, and you've got to be
good in order to get legitimately paid. The baseball thing
is so overdone, oversold how great it is in comparison
to every other sport. It's good, but it's great for
a small selection of guys at the very top of
the sport. And there's no promise that Kyler Murray, at
all of five ft nine and one great year, really
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good year in college baseball, is going to be that guy.
And look, I mean even Bryce Harper, and and I
could sit here and tell you Bryce Harper is not
gonna get what he thought he'd get, and so maybe
he ends up settling for you know, three or four
years at plus thirty million dollars, and that's that's elite
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quarterback money. The difference is, remember, right, you still have
to go through some form of minor leagues. And Bryce Harper,
this isn't his first go round with being a pro.
He's been a pro for a couple of years. In football,
you're in the league, you're in the league, and if
you're a first round pick, you're a starting quarterback, usually
almost always in year one. So he's gonna a chance,
and the question is can they find the right fit
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and can you make some plays. I think this was
an easy, no brainer decision for a guy who had
two great decisions, he could make, two great decisions he
could make. So Kyler Murray, I mean, look this, and
this is not he doesn't want to play for the
A's who took him ninth overall, but he is going
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to play baseball and somebody's gonna take him, and somebody's
gonna take him really really early, probably too early in
the draft. What's the other part that's interesting? And this
is you know, I used to get accused, you guys,
remember when u Cela made the tournament just like three
or four years ago, and I said, there's nobody on
earth who actually belong believes they belong in. And then
we come around to picking the teams and I picked
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them to go to the sweet sixteen, and people are like,
what are you talking about? How can you say they
don't belong in? Then say they win some games? Like well,
because winning games is not about belonging in. It's about matchups.
And you know it's there's a slight margin there. I
would say the opposite about Kyler Murray. Cayler Murray is
going to be a first round draft pick. I just
wouldn't draft him. I just wouldn't draft be sure to
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catch live editions, so the Doug Dot Leaps show week
days at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. Athan Strouss rights
to the Athletic he's an NBA insider and apparently now
he's persona on grouted in Golden State. Makes you respect
to me even more. Not because I don't like the Warriors,
but I just like when guys do their jobs and uh,
and some athletes have trouble with them doing their jobs?
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Is that what happened? Let's let's ask Ethan Strouse. He
joins his card. Remember last week, that's when Kevin Durant
hadn't met with the meeting in a couple of weeks.
Sits down and tells them to grow up, and then
schools Ethan Strauss because he believes that he was jotting
things down to a notebook and not actually talking to KD.
What really happened, Ethan? Well, first of all, I resent
being told to grow up, because hey, I didn't choose
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this job of talking about sports all day because I
wanted to grow up. Okay, this is this is about
this is about protracted adolessons forever. So that's number one
and number two. I think you summed it up. I
think you summed up. You know, this became this wide
ranging media conversation when really it's pretty simple if you
want to synthesize it down to a sentence. I talked
about something you didn't want to talked about. That's kind
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of what it is. And there there was a lot
of smoke in mirrors. There are a lot of accusations.
I mean today he was talking about how he doesn't
like when writers come up to him and talk to
him and then go behind his back. So I'm not
even sure which is it. Before I wasn't talking to him.
Now I talked to him and I went behind his back.
It doesn't really hold together for me. Again, simply put,
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talked about something you didn't want to talked about, and
he's bad. Okay, I guess my My question my pushback
to you would be, is there any answer you can
get from him that would satisfy people? Right? Because if
he says I'm staying well, when he could change his mind,
but people don't think you can actually change your mind.
And he can't say that he's planning on leaving, right,
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and if he gives an answer like, well, you know,
if he gives the Kyrie answer, which is talked to
me July one, well then we just assumed that he's
leaving even though we don't and actually know, like, is
there a real answer that would satisfy our insatiable need
to know before everybody else knows. Yeah, there might not
be an answer that would satisfy him per his reputation management, right.
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I mean, typically, the way Lebron has handled this is
similar to the way that Kyrie, Uh, the aforementioned Kyrie
has handled it, where he says, look, I want to
talk about my team. I'm not going to talk about
other teams right now. I talk about my team. I
don't get involved in this free agency stuff. I think
that actually works because this whole thing, it just became
based on this false premise that he's getting bombarded with
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these questions every day. Uh, he is not, as Tim
Cala Kami or Tim Cala Kami at The Athletic Subscribe
Today said he was the only Bay Area journalist who
ask Kevin or Ran about free agency, and it was
back in September. Generally, the way these press conferences work
because they are day of the game, after the game practice.
They're focused on the day to day grind. It's what
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happened in this game. You know, what did you think
about when this occurred? How is the team doing? Blah
blah blah. Suddenly all these people were defending k d um,
you know, and it's it would be very reasonable. I
don't expect fans necessarily know how it goes based on Oh,
he doesn't want to get you know, keep getting asked
this all the time. He's not getting asked this all
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the time. He just disappeared for over a week and
I guess anticipation of being asked about it. But that's
not really what was happening. Um, last night he was
great statistically. I know he had a bad turnover late.
Steph had a bad turnover late and frankly, he double
dribbled what would have been another bad turnover before he
found DeMarcus Cousins for what became the game winning shot. Um,
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how much of the burner accounts and the media missteps
have covered up the fact that you know, like steps
had these these these shooting slumps that I don't remember
him having recently, Clay has had kind of for a
while season long shooting slumps. The only to pull out
of it, Um, you know Draymond and he he started
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making some shots, but he went a good three months
without making a shot. And there are a different team
without DeMarcus Cousins. Like, how much of this has actually
covered up the fact that he's been their most consistent
best player. Oh, he's an amazing basketball player and jeez,
he's great. Is fairly unimpeachable when it comes to all
of that, and they've won fifteen out of sixteen. Um,
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That's what's funny about this entire embro leo is just
how it's happening concurrent with the team's greatest success this season. So, uh,
it's funny. You just wonder why is there such a
need for this? Why is there such a defensiveness considering
that he need not defend anything, And maybe it is
connected to and I think that there's a lot to
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indicate that is connected to he doesn't ever really get
the love that might be commensurate with his level of play.
That he has two finals wps back to back. He
hits the biggest shot in Lebron's face. We don't reorder
our order of the greatest players. We don't say, now
Katie the best player. We say Katie might not even
be the best player on his own team. And so
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I think that there is some inks to that that
might be informing this entire, uh, this entire look at me,
uh sequence that he's putting on. That's the whole thing,
isn't the whole thing? Is this yearning for respect and admiration.
I think that's a big thing for a lot of
these guys, and in the social media era, it's harder
to feel fulfillment. Perhaps, so we want to get big
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picture and broader about it. How many NBA superstars are
happy currently, even if they're in good situations. It seems
like we are in this odd period of time in
the NBA. We're almost every superstar has one foot out
the door. At least, you know, we can talk about
Katie and speculate on the free agency, his free ancient
team where he might go, But we can also talk
about Jimmy Butler or Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis two feet
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out the door, my god, and I might even be
forgetting a guy or two. Oh yeah, Kawhi Leonard. Uh,
We've never been at a moment in time quite like this.
It has something to do with the CBA, but it
also might have something to do with how guys perhaps
aren't getting as much fulfillment for what they want for
the ego as they did in the past. You know, Um,
it's interesting you bring that up, the level of unhappiness,
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but also the outward discussion about their level of unhappiness.
How much of of of this, uh is A is
a bad showing by Adam Silver. I bring this up
because look, I've I've talked to some NFL people like
this would never happen in our league, and like people
want to criticize our commissioner, but it just and some
of it's the collector bar agreement. Some of it is
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the popularity of players you can see their faces. But
some of it is also that that Adam Silver is
very much a player first commissioner and he has allowed
these guys to, uh, you know, be free to be themselves.
And it doesn't it ain't great for owners, especially these
small market teams where so many pete players want to
want to get out as soon as they possibly can
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get out. So let me get this straight. You want
KD mad at me and the commissioner of the NBA
to get bad at me as they follow you down
the straight of thought, and this is the invitation currently. Um,
I think it is a legitimate question, though I would
say this right now, there's an interesting conversation about the
NBA is owning the news cycles super Bowl week, everyone
talking about the NBA amazing. They just completely completely eclipse
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the NFL, except Super Bowl happens over a hundred million
people watch it, and we're not seeing such great results
of the NBA ratings. And so while Twitter might be
dominated by this game of thrones that we are all
hooked to as the super NBA fans and big time
sports fans, the general public, what are they really getting
from it? What message is getting delivered. If you're in Boston,
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a major market team with a rich, deep history, what
you get from it is that Kyrie Irving forced his
way out of Cleveland and now, in a situation that
seems very prime for a good future, is unhappy and
is signaling dissatisfaction. And they're just getting a lot of
messaging from NBA players of I'm not happy. This isn't
good for my brand. I want out. And while maybe
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the NBA players always were mercenaries, maybe they never really
cared about these cities. Are these teams the fans need
to believe in Malia a little bit, and the current
way that the messaging is going destroys that line. It's
a great stuff. Ethan Strouss joining us on the Doug
Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What do you make
of the Lakers? I thought, I thought before the injuries,
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they were pretty good. I mean, top seven in all
the defensive metrics, and they just needed a couple of
shot makers. But then Lebron gets hurt game. I know
you were watching as the rest of the world was
on Christmas Day. They win in spite of it. Kuzma
had has had a back issue, He's missed a couple
of games. Rondo is hurt now a Lonzo is hurt,
and and then they've just had uneven performances like the
(24:41):
absolute dud yesterday. Where are we you know in February
here Lebron year one with the Lakers. It's scuffles, Bill,
it's and it has changed. I like that you talked
about how good they looked earlier. You know you wouldn't
be so crazy, seeing at one point that they might
they might threaten to be the that can best team
in the West, and that was all fallen apart. And look,
(25:04):
I don't know how to really measure the failure of
this trade on what's going on in the locker room
and how guys feel and how they're going to play,
But you just have to assume that it can't be
good to have nearly the entire team shopped and then
and then have that thward it. So I don't know
what my take on them is other than what a
(25:25):
mess currently. It's just it's just such a mess. It
seems like they played it wrong, that they didn't understand
their leverage and or the lack thereof, and they went
full speed ahead. And hey, you know, credit them for boldness,
but sometimes when you take bold risks, there are some
there's some consequences. Now now they've told me that like
it ain't even their package was even close to what
(25:46):
was being portrayed in the media. And of course they've
gone on and said, hey, this is all coming from
the Pelicans. Why couldn't they do a better job of
controlling the messaging? Why why did the Pelicans kind of
control that that whole messaging thing. That's a great question.
I think the Pelicans might have had a little more
sympathy because of the situation they were in. Maybe they
had some some better connections with media, But it doesn't
(26:09):
make sense. You would think you'd have the bully pulp
it out there in Los Angeles and you're connected to
a lot of media, and then theory you could really
control your messaging and promote your view of things. But
it seems as though currently it's only Lakers fans who
feel like the wrong party or feel like they were
the wrong team in this whole endeavor. Everybody else, everybody
else sees it the other way and just sees effectively
(26:31):
the Lakers trying to a bully a smaller market team
and force them into a deal that wasn't beneficial. That
does seem to be the overriding a view of how
this whole thing happens. It's fair enough, Doug Gallup show
here on Fox Sports Radio. And then quietly it seems
like everyone has forgotten that Kawhi Leonard is going to
be a free agent, um uh, and that look, they're good,
(26:52):
but they're not as good as the Bucks. There's this
assumption in Los Angeles that he's going to be a Clipper.
Is that the assumption that people in the NBA make.
I think that's what most people think, and we should
be clear that a lot can change between now and
now in July. But he did buy a home in
northern San Diego County, so not deep in San Diego,
closer to where you would actually make it, you know,
(27:13):
a journey up there in Rancho Santa Fe, which incidentally
is also where Steve Kerr lives. I mean, must be
a nice neighborhood. It's also where Bill Gates live. Uh.
And Philip Rivers, who who makes his commute to the
l A Chargers from from Rancho Santa Fe, so decent
digs over there. But buying a house for thirteen point
three million dollars in southern California, sure, you know, maybe
(27:34):
these guys like to live in Southern California in the
off season. So you can't read too much into it,
but that would seem to be an indicator, uh, in
the favor of the Clippers. So I I do think
that is the that is the assumption. But man, that
move they just made is an interesting move. And what
is he really going to leave if the Raptors make
a run to the finals or win the championship. We
(27:55):
don't know, but it's going to add a whole lot
of intrigue this postseason. Yeah. Um, where we haven't talked
about Janice or about James Harden. Uh. Janice seems to
play the other end better. Janice's numbers are ridiculous, but
Harden has been on this, you know, consecutive scoring streak
that that is ridiculous. On the other hand, he really
is dominating the ball. Whether they have Chris Paul or
(28:17):
don't have Chris Paul. Who do people inside the NBA
think has had the best season thus far? I think Harden,
And maybe that's incumbency. Maybe that's incumbency. But it is
interesting if you want to draw a parallel. Janice is
in a way the opposite of Steph. But he's also
a little bit analogous to Steph Uh in the first
title season in terms of the team where you have
(28:40):
a team who they're not totally out of nowhere, but
they got rid of the coach who might not have
been the best coach and now they're super charged with
this esthetically pleasing offense. And they're just killing these other
teams in the regular season, yet nobody believes in them,
and they have this very likable superstar who nobody has
anything bad to say about, who's powering the whole thing.
(29:00):
So it's funny. There's just so many parallels between the
Milwaukee Bucks, and forgive me for making it to the
local situation that I'm privy to. So I've got to
I've got a real eye on them because it seems
as though nobody buys them and they can't do anything
to sell people on them in the regular season. Uh
So I just can't wait to see what happens in
the postseason. Um, you're you are you're writing a book
(29:21):
on the Warriors. That that's part of what you're doing
and hanging around the Warriors all the time, right, I
am writing a book about the Warriors. It will come
out next year. It will come out, and man, they're
giving me a lot of material, a whole lot of material. Hmm.
That's uh, that is that is fascinating. What's what's the
premise of the book? Well, the premises basically that this
(29:43):
is a dynasty that we have seen rise up and
it's just all the more interesting to me to see
it try to be maintained, and for whatever reason, those
sorts of fissures, those sorts of that sort of maintenance
seems to capture people's attention more so than the rise.
The rise is easy. This stuff is a little bit hard. Really.
(30:03):
Dealing with the disease of more is hard. And that's
why we focus on Shack and Kobe and what happened.
That's why he breaks in the game. We focus on
why couldn't the Blazers maintain? Maybe the Warriors will maintain,
Maybe they'll figure it out, Maybe we'll keep this thing
going in the way it's been going. But that's not
going to be nearly as easy a process as getting
to the top in the first place. So that's what
I'm writing about. Oh, you write about the fall of
(30:24):
Rome or the maintenance of Rome, the maintenance of maintenance,
of maintenance of m fair fair enough. We'll we'll see
if rom falls or if it maintains. Ethan Strouss and
the Athletic great stuff, dude, Thanks for joining us, Thanks
for having me
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