November 10, 2025 • 37 mins
On this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they hated most and loved most over the weekend. Doug weighs in on the performance by Aaron Rodgers Sunday Night. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in hope, You're having a great day.
The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day. I'm
in Green Bay there in Sherman Oaks, California. We're just here.
Four guys who love sports, been working together for a
long time talking about football occasionally basketball sport not really baseball,
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crazy college football weekend, weird NFL weekend, some college hoops
this weekend as well. A lot to get to Buyer
is a Seahawks fan, So you got the dub, Jay
Stu and I Big Charger fans. We got the dub.
Last night, Sam suffered through a really really tough loss
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as an Iowa Haka fan. That's Saturday night, but still
fun game at Kiddick. So we got a lot to
draw it in terms of what we'd like to do,
just kind of an update for this hour, preve you
Monday night football. I am going to the game tonight,
cold Lambeau game. This is one that everybody kind of
checks their boxes. This is the one that I got
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season tickets. I'm going to this one. You'll see your
boy potentially with a Lambeau leap because I got Lambeau
leap seats. I'm the one with the big schnage, but
I'll be covered up so you might only see my
nose and my eyes nothing else. It is a brisk
twenty eight degrees with twenty five mile an hour gusts,
which means it's really really cold, really cold. Well, with that,
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let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Meet these player Hays, Damn Byer, what do you got buddy?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I do need to make this point because there was
a possibility that we were going to be in Green
Bay broadcasting the show as a crew. That did not happen.
When I texted Jason what the forecast was going to be,
Jason played it off like no big deal. You were
you were ready for the elements. Jason Stewart right experience.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I like to experience what that place is known for.
So if I go to a restaurant or something, I'll
get the one thing that they're known for. I went
to London for my only trip across the overseas. I
went to London and it was sunny for four days,
and it rained and was foggy. On the fifth day
I played. I played hooky is that the word from work?
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On the fifth day and I just walked around listening
to the smiths and had more serenading me through fog
and depressed in rain. And that was my favorite day
in London.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So if I go to Green Bay, I want it
to be freezing temperature.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like, look, we you would have
lucked out like it's November's hit or miss in terms
of cold. Here's what I'm gonna offer up to you, guys. Okay,
December twenty seventh. December twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Can't do it?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah? Because of Christmas.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, my cousin's actually coming out because he wants to
go to a Chargers game. So I'm hoping that gets
flex to a Saturday contest. But who do they who
do the Packers play in the twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Ravens Ravens, so I think by then the Ravens will
be fighting for a playoff spot. Right yeah, makes sense.
Games with Lamar back, so that that's the next one.
I'm not I'm traveling for the rest of you. Guys
should come out anytime you want. I'll get tickets. You
stay at my house. You're all good to go, use
my car, don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Let's do this the Chargers Texans on the twenty seventh.
Get four tickets for fan of his cousin Jacob and
me and if we can get the that sweet deal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Don't worry about it. No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Worry about you need sweets.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Have Doug hit his contact up and we'll we'll ride
it in luxury.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Okay, Tonight it's a Gold Package game as well, so
the Milwaukee fans will be there, just won't be as loud.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hey, I had with a buddy last night. There's three
Milwaukee games every year, right.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yes, there's one preseason and two regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh, I thought there's three regular seasons. He was right.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I was wrong because my family has relatives have the
Green package.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Green packages if you're in Green Bay, Gold packages if
you're in a Milwaukee Milwaukee, Milwaukeekeean Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Ken Milwaukee and Milwaukee something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
All right, Actually it's pronounced Meliwaukee.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
There you go, which is Algonquin for the good Land.
I love that. What do you got there? I was, Sam,
what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think we skipped over Dan Well. I'll just say this.
Doug mentioned Jonathan Taylor earlier today. He also is on
my fantasy team. What a show in Berlin. I got
up to watch that game because he wasn't my fantasy team.
He was absolutely magnificent, including adding on the touchdown in overtime,
which I know ruined some things for others because the
Colts won by six. But what a magnificent day for
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Jonathan Taylor and the Colts, specifically for Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I kind of hate I hate myself when it comes
to these players, Like I really am jealous of people
that own Jonathan Taylor, Like I get pissed off at
myself when not drafting him. But I was in the
same boat last year with Saquon Barkway, And if you
think about it, their careers are very similar. They're a
great when they're healthy and they've just been you never
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know when they're not injured. Jonathan Taylor is like a
top three fantasy pick a couple of years, then he's
a second rounder. Saquon Barkley the same deal. It's just
it's frustrating when these guys hit big on the year
you don't drop.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Here's the other thing. A lot of leagues are PPR,
so they're like, well, Taylor isn't as much of a
factor out of the backfield to say, like, you know,
Devona a Chan might be, so he slips a little bit,
but when you're rushing for that much and he did catch,
he has been decent out of the backfield, giving some bonus.
But that also plays into it. It's ridiculous, but it
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does with some people's rankings.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
All right, Sam, okay, go ahead, you get your your
pound of flesh.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
So Dan brought up Jonathan Taylor's incredible two hundred plus
yard performs there in Germany. I love I love broadcasts
in any sport in any other language but English. Let's
listen to what Jonathan Taylor touchdown in German from two
years ago.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Hey, what did he do? Saucage pan and as on
Taylor Taylor lifety right now, it's a touchdown sex.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Ye Foddy Colts.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
How about how about?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
How about the Football Night in America had a little
little package Jonathan Taylor a little ramshean underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh yeah, sounds a lot better when they do itig.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
That is so good.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
And then actually here's ah, here's a very fun uh
little clip from a broadcast between the Saints and the
Falcons from two years ago.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Oh deception, deception option is to follow on every born.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The Germans. So you think that's funny?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
I also found uh an Illinois football in Illinois fighting
a lie and I call from h have this since
twenty nineteen in Mandarin.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Here we go a Joe, you go.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Find Paul and one more god.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Let me eat right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I have no idea what they're saying. I have no
idea how they find these guys. They speak the language fluently,
and they're also fans of American football. But those are
fun and I love the Germans and they're.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Laughting the Germans having such a cool time? Was this
American German ball?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
The Germans?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
All right, thank you guys?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Do did do jase do?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Let me left on the weekend, real fast, just a
live tweet Camaro Guy twenty eight, did you really have
to play the last four cuts in the foreign language?
I will say this, There's only one reason I'm a
Chargers fan. Only one reason. It's my son Jacob. He's
the biggest fan I know. He went to the game
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last night, sent me a text saying that it was
like seventy five percent Steeers fans. He was one of
the one of the few that were rooting for the
Chargers last night at so far and they pulled it
out and he was happy. And when he's happy, I'm happy.
So I love that Chargers win.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jacobspi chadges win and happy. Uh okay, Mine's pretty easy,
to be honest with you. That's something I love from
the weekend. I just I really really love watching one
game this weekend above ALUs, Did you guys see what
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old miss head coach Lane Kiffin did. There was a
proposal on the field like before the fourth quarter, right
and like Lane Kiffin midgame goes over and like shakes
the guy's hand, talks to him afterwards. It kind of
gives him an out of boy. Just I don't know
what happened to Lane Kiffin. He was so obnoxious early
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on his career, and now he's become like the most
likable dude ever, you know, talking about his daughter's boyfriend,
his own relationship post divorce. He's just very at peace
with himself at ole Miss. I mean, here's the guy who,
you know, fail up after getting fired by the Raiders,
leaves Tennessee after one year, goes to sc right the
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whole thing. But I don't know, I just really like
where Lane Kiffin is. I think it's fun to watch him.
And if you watch that interaction that was magnificent. During
the Old Miss.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Game, Ole Miss beat the Citadel forty nine to nothing.
The Council is an overall win, obviously a non conference game.
They had five first downs. Citadel did and head the
ball for thirty two minutes. The starting quarterback had stats
that look like he plays quarterback for Wisconsin. He was
three of six for twenty three yards. That's that's what
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the Citadel. That's why you can take pictures with the
newly engaged when the Citadel comes to town and has
five first downs in the entire contest.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, I'll give you another one. How about Wisconsin's win
against wow Yah Washington, Right, Luke Fickel. Everybody thought dead
man walking. They decide, hey, we're going We're running it
back for one more year. He had four different players
throw a pass in the game, like they're just trying
new quarterback, New quarterback Carter Smith. I think Carter Smith.
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You know, as a freshman, they won a game with
their leading passer was three of twelve. They were six
of eighteen with forty eight yards throwing the football and
one and one in the old find a way. Wisconsin
found away. Rewarded their coach, who rewarded the athletic department
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with giving him another year to try and run this
thing back. That was a hell of aid. If you
can win with forty eight yards passing, I tip my captain.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Sean West is their punter. I don't know if he
became the first ever or first in a long time
to lead his team in rushing and in passing in
a gameless season. He had twenty the most that they
had on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's amazing. I love it. I love sports.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
All right, let's get to what ask real QUI coach Fickle,
he got like the vote of confidence, I mean like
they had to show some improvement. But he think once
he had that vote of confidence, he was like, all right,
let's just go win one because like they just if
they just didn't win any games the rest of the year, man,
that's just gonna be hard to start next year. But
this is this definitely lights a fire under their butts.
A ranked win, yeah, a win period.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
At home the fifth quarter, I'm sure was rocking in
mad time. All right, let's get to what we hated
from the weekend. Our resident hater is Jason Stewart. What do ayeat?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Jay got an email yesterday. I think I'm on record
as saying that I've been a YouTube TV subscriber since
before it was cool. I cut the court early, I
think in twenty eighteen, been a subscriber ever since. So
this kind of puts it in even a more harsh context. Hi, Jason,
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We've been working in good faith and negotiate a deal
with Disney that pays them fairly for their content and
returns their programmingto YouTube TV. We know it's been disappointing
to lose Disney content. We want to know how deeply
appreciative we are of your patients, and light of that,
we're off in you subscribers a twenty dollars credit. Twenty
dollars credit. Now, now you could argue, like what is that?
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How do they come to that number? Like what how
do they measure that twenty bucks is enough to keep
customers happy through this very frustrating time without insulting them.
So you could argue that point. But here's the real
insulting point. Over the next few days, you will receive
a follow up email with instructions on how to redeem
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your twenty dollars credit. So, in other words, I'm going
to have to do the work to get my credit.
I don't get ESPN or ABC or my Jeopardy, and
you're gonna make me do the work to give me
a credit your Google, you are worth trillions of dollars.
I'm guessing as a part of your business model you
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are able to refund twenty dollars without me going through
an extra step put it on the bill. This is
insulting and for the first time in my career as
a YouTube TV subscriber, I'm considering ending my relationship. We
are not going to get Monday night football again tonight.
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This is the first time in the history of these negotiations,
whether it's Comcast, or Direct TV where two Monday night
football games have been put in jeopardy. To me, this
is a bridge too far. It is a problem when
two trillion dollar mega corporations are squabbling at the inconvenience
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and the actually the torture. I'm gonna go that far
use torture of their consumers. It's not acceptable, mad.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
As hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Play that to me and his man's money. Damn by
what what?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
No reaction to that? Well, no reaction to watch the
game here YouTube TV subscribers among.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
The four of us, I will be watching the game tonight.
I'll immediately change the channel and I'll flip back direct
TV in the house.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, it's the only reason I have. The only reason
I have YouTube TV is red Zone and multiview. That's it,
and I'm good with it. I'm good with moving on
if that's if that's the thing, Like I don't, I'm
my problem with it. Jay stu Is, I actually see
the argument, right, Actually see the argument on either side.
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I don't blame the ESPN.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You're for the trillionaires, No, I just.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You're running a business and the rights cost a ton
of money. You know for like the SEC and if
you have the SEC games, Like yeah, we're like, we're
going to charge you our our fees to carry our
our to carry our service. Like that's the deal, you know,
A part of me, I don't know the difference how
far the part they are in money per sub I
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don't know the details of that. I don't care. It's
not my business. I just want to see it on TV.
But I do understand this has happened with It's basically
happened with everybody. This is the first one that's happened
in middle of the season. Comcast had it one year
with somebody. We've seen all these different characters.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, that's the first time that two live NFL games
have been compromised. If you're for the trillionaires, that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But I'm not for the trillionaires. But like again, none
of this content is going to be free. That's it.
I mean, it's just not gonna be free. So I
don't know what, Like, Okay, so what do you propose
has to happen? You just get them in a room
and whatever wherever you are, let's just meet halfway and
do a deal.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would say, at the very weast as a stop gap.
There's three things that could be done. Because the NFL
is the behemoth that it is, it could tell ESPN
to put the game on ESPN Plus tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm guessing contractually they can't.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
No, they're the NFL. They could do whatever they can't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Again, when matter, there's a certain place you can't put it, Jason.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
When you have I guess, uh, circumstances that are extreme,
then you could take extreme measures to at the very
least optically tell your consumers that you care about them. So,
between ESPN and also uh, the NFL, you would think
that something some olive branch could be extended to the consumers.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So, and let me just quick interject here, Jason wants
the NFL to say ESPN put it on ESPN Plus,
which would weaken the argument for YouTube TV that has
a deal with the NFL for the Sunday ticket. So,
so you want the NFL to go back on there
basically to stab YouTube TV in the back, but help
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ESPN out for the viewer's sake, Yes, for the view.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You Jason, you're in fantasy world. You're in absolute fantasyland.
You're in fantasyland. Doesn't football no it's again, just give
me my football. Like again, this is the issue. It
can paid the picture perfectly. Like, either way you do it,
one of the two companies are gonna be screwed that
you can't put it on ESPN Plus because that's a
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violation of the contract, the contract you have with them.
But also it's a violation of the contracts you have
when Netflix has a specific contract with NBC, with CBS
and with Fox. You can only place it where you
have paid to place it. Right, So that's the reality
of the deal. If anything, the NFL wins on this
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thing because people are going to be so upset they're
going to make their voices hurt. This, by the way,
is no different than when MTV first came to be Right,
do you remember MTV? Call your cable provider and tell
them I want my MTV. Right used to have to
and you're like, why doesn't everybody have MTV? Well, because
in order to carry it, you gotta pay for it.
Because they got to pay for all these videos. It's
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the same thing. It's prohibitively expensive to broadcast the NFL. Hey, now,
of that NFL highlights, I don't know the number. Now,
did you guys know, it's two hundred fifty thousand dollars
per minute to do an NFL highlight, right, That's why
like when you see all these all these teams like
like Fox for example, Fox Sports one, they won't run
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NFL b role because b roll, that's the video of
highlights whatever. It costs two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a minute. And it's also a lot like cell phone
minutes back when we were back when we were like
in college, you get your first cell phone, you're like, ah,
one hundred minutes or thousand minutes. I'm never going over.
Any second is a minute. So my point is it's
ridiculously expensive to broadcast the NFL. ESPN knows that, So
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they're not gonna go like, hey, YouTube watch pay less
than everybody else is paying for our content. No big deal,
you got ten million customers. You can't do it again.
I'm not saying there's not room for negotiation and ways
to smooth it over, and it should be done by now.
But I also can tell you that like you're you're
you're talking in absolute fantasy terms, which will never happen
just because it feels like it should. So fans can
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see it. That's not the reality of multi billion dollar businesses.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
No, I mean, you guys are for Therion and.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I did not take a side. I did not take
a side.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Socialist run in New York City today.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Again, again there's a there's a perfect example. I mean
socialism argument. Okay, so so so China stop buying soy
So China stopped buying soybeans. Stop buying soybeans because of
the tariffs from the United States. Right, So all these
farmers had all these soybeans. So what are we gonna do.
We're gonna bail out the farmers because that's what we do.
We have farm aide and we pay people to not
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produce milk, to not produce things. And you're like, well,
forget about socialism. Okay, you're gonna let all these farmers
completely starve because we have this tariff thing. No, you
gotta deal with reality, and the reality is that this
is a business. This is the business that we chosen. Okay.
And yes, Pian has done this with the ESPNU, with
the ESPN News, with the ESPN two, and they do
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with the ESPN Plus now they're doing Monday Night Football.
They have paid a huge sum of money for Monday
Night football. If you want to broadcast it, you got
to pay the fee. You got to pay the proper increase.
If you don't, then we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Have a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And what's what, It's a game of chicken. What's gonna
happen first to people gonna get upset with the ESPN. No,
what they're gonna do is they'll pull off of YouTube
and they'll move on to a service that does carry it.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
What you're you're gonna go back to cable?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I would, I would gladly. I would gladly go back
to Cable.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Really.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I like the Cable bundle. Cable Bundle had I had
no problem I going backwards. If I go to Spectrum,
wait home. If I go to Spectrum, I get Lakers games,
I get Dodger games, and I can get Monday Night football.
I don't have to put up with any of the nonsense.
The only thing I don't get is I don't get multiview.
All right, Uh, anybody else got anything to hit it
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this weekend?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
First you Sam, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
All right, I'll be quick. Uh Saturday, you all know it,
Hawkeye heartbreak. If you were a true freshman starting for
Iowa in twenty twenty two, you still have not beaten
a ranked team with the Hawkeyes. They are oh to
twelve since they started losing the ranked teams in twenty
twenty one. They beat three ranked teams to start the
season since then oh and twelve, and some of them
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are by excruciatingly heartbreaking manners of defeat. Like Saturday, I
just I don't know, I don't want to do this
felt kind of like Iowa's lost in the Big Ten
championship game ten years ago. It hurt that much where
it's like left me sideways even into the next day
and just thinking about right now, it just makes me
kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So my hate.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
That's my hate.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Man a game, beat a ranked days.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You have an opportunity on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Hold on. J Mack from Norman tweets me. Tell j
Stew thank you. As a YouTube TV subscriber, I agree
with everything he said. Both companies are blind to their subscribers,
and occurring at the same time as the government shutdown
is even more sad. Government shutdown is the perfect parallel.
You're like, I just opened the government, all right. See,
if you're a Democrat, like you want all these people
to lose all their aid. No, because your constituents won't
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want that. If you're a Republican, you're scared of doing
against anything Potus says, because then he's going to stick
his dogs on you. Right, So again, sounds really easy
when we're not involved Twitter. That's my boy J Mac, So.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
J Mack and I are not for trillion nerves. And
you guys are it's August. You guys already drew the one.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Then I got I got a text of J Max
from the Beach Cities, he says, I got a rec
league game tonight, so I will be recording the game
on my DVR.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Will be recording his rec league game on DVR and then.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Broadcasting highlights to come after.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know what I need? I need. I need to
know what he's running offensively, so it helps it helps us. Yes,
that that that's what That's what I need. That is
love and hey.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
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S Doug Gottleep show here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
I want to talk about last night's Sunda Night football game?
Is that Fallout boy? Is that? Does this? Does fallow Boy?
Do all these covers disturb? Does these covers?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
If you're on the podcast, you like, I don't know it.
What's that song called? That's a Atlantic confusion. That's a
Genesis song that they remade. Correct, that is Genesis. That's
sir Genesis. Thank you, Dan Byers nodding his head. That's
because we we think alike in regards to Phil Collins
and Genesis and understanding the difference in the two. Appreciate you.
Appreciate you telling me that Doug Gottlieb show here on
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team this year. Thank you there, mister President. Hey, I
I just I'm gonna mention this thing. The deal with
Trump wanting the new RFK named after him is it's
it's the giving yourself a nickname thing, is it not,
Dan Byer? Right, It's like you can have somebody name
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a stadium after you, but like, hey, there's two things.
One you can't ask for it and two actually usually
you have to give some money. Right, That's actually how
it has to how it has to happen. I didn't
realize it with all these other like honors and hall
of Fames and things that. But apparently that's the way
it works, like Hollywood Walk of Fame. Do you guys
know that you have to people have to have to
(25:22):
donate money or somebody has to donate.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it's all a boondoggle, all of it bo and
uh and and to me, I just thought it's hilarious,
Like you're our president, I insert your name here, you
put insert your name here.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I'm gonna say this because now stadiums, without being a
corporate sponsor like it is, we are so far removed
from that. Yeah, basically with most facilities, so anything that
was new, I just automatically assumed that there would be
some sort of company that would move in and that's
the new stadium where the commanders would play, never even
(26:04):
giving any thought that it could be named after someone
including the president.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah. Now listen, there there were if you remember Connell
Airlines Arena, that was the arena built on the swamp
right next to the old UH Giants stadium. Right it
was named Brendan Burn Arena. Okay, Brendan Burn was the
governor at the time in which it was of New
Jersey when it was built. Why was it named after
the governor. Well, it's built on swamp land, and the
(26:32):
only way to get things done in Jersey is to
do it, you know, through the government, you know, the
shady way. Jersey politics are everything you think they are
so and I'm I know that's what the president thinks.
He's like, Look, I pushed this thing through, I got
it into DC, I got the great You can ask
for the name the thing to be named after you,
(26:53):
but you can't ask yourself. That's that's the giving yourself
a nickname.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
The retractable roof should be a comb over of his
air amazing. The design is it would be amazing. This
takes eighteen minutes to close.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
That be sweet. I don't think that there has ever
been a US stadium named after a former president. So
leads me to this this question. Do you think Trump
thinks that he would be the first or do you
think Trump thinks RFK was a president?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Probably both.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Well, there was the Taft Dome. I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I do think there was probably one named after a president.
They just we did we.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
There's JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, so that's the old one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, they got knocked down for the one before right,
not not not before the link what was.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
The on one called that they used to Veterans Stadium.
Veterans Stadium, see y'all at the taft Yeah, bring it?
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The I insert your name here is one of the
funniest things ever. It was his own Uh what's uh?
What's the character at Anchorman?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Shoot?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was his Ron BURGUNDYMO, I'm Ron Burgundy. I insert
your name here. Hey, last night, Sunday night football, I
had a bunch of bets with friends, my son and I.
My son great text, We're on a four way group
group text, little bet, little fifty dollars wager for him
(28:40):
versus Trey shactor who's from Pittsburgh. At the end of
the night, it was like, Hey, Trey, I need my
money by the time school starts tomorrow or it goes
from fifty to seventy five. He's charging him the big
about that. I do think though, that it it. It
looks like Aaron Rodgers doesn't happen anymore. I can't tell.
(29:01):
But it's been a couple weeks now where you're like
it was starting to look better, and what it is
you can't necessarily pinpoint it, like there's not any one throw,
but there was just a consistency of magic that he had.
And one of the things that Aaron Rodgers did for
a long time was he would never turn the ball over.
(29:23):
And now he turns the ball over a ton. He
still kind of looks like Aaron Rodgers does some Aaron
Rodgers things, but he just doesn't do it nearly as well,
which is what happens as you get older. You know,
those quick, snip snap throws and now you're on the move.
And he used to be able to run for a
first down or run and find his guys. It's just
and look, you can blame some of it on the
(29:43):
fact they have embarrassingly poor wide receiving corps, but yeah,
I mean the takeaway is justin Herbert is a stud
stud you know, the ability to win a game or
two behind that off defensive line is amazing, whereas Aaron
(30:04):
Rodgers not a great offensive line, but not terrible, only
as one quality wide receiver, big old tight end or whatever,
but keeps turning the football over and they just don't
look right out of My takeaway last night was, man,
the Steelers are old up front. Defensively, they get no
pressure on the passer and Aaron Rodgers looks like, Yeah,
(30:27):
this is what the last year usually looks like. Agree, disagree.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Dmbier I said that this is unfortunately Emmett Smith in
a Cardinals uniform. And the reason I say that is
because Emmitt Smith in a Cardinals uniform actually almost had
a thousand yard season for Arizona in his final year.
He actually had nine touchdown runs. And while Rodgers hasn't
been awful, and he had that great game against Pittsburgh,
(30:52):
he's not at the top of his game, just like
Emmett wasn't at the top of his game. I think
we'll look back at this one season in Pittsburgh and
be like, that was weird. I think that was I mean,
even the Jets made a lot more sense. But yeah,
it's just down there. They're not good enough for him
to He's not good enough to cover up the warts
that the Steelers still have.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's that's the point. The best of the best, and
this is where this has always been my thing with
rock perty right, the best of the best they find
a way to cover up those warts. They may not
be great, but they can they can make they're still
competitive and you win some of these Games. Rogers is
not that guy anymore. I don't think Perdy's ever been
that guy. Herbert appears to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I think he did it last night. Herbert.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Oh Yeah. Coming up next to The Doug Gotlieb Show,
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Speaker 3 (31:42):
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Here's Dan Byron with the press.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
The press, All right, Doug, Brian dabole out of a job,
fired today as the head coach of the New York Giants.
Right now, Mike Kafka is going to take over on
an interim basis. But if Kafka doesn't get the full
time job. Ben Online says, right now, the shortest odds
(32:38):
of being the next Giants head coach Lane Kiffin four
to one, Cliff Kingsbury five to one, the Commander's offensive coordinator,
Well Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter right now listed at
six to one.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Uh, the Lane kiffn connection is because he coached CKX
Darton College. Is that it? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Who is the second Kingsbury?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, that Kingsbury would be the one. I would, I would,
I would go with I. Again, I don't know. I
don't know what Lane wants. Right. It feels like he
loves ole miss. He's making a ton of money. I'm
guessing he'll re up, you know, because everybody in the
SEC wants to hire him. He'll get like ten million
a year. Again, don't know what he wants. I don't
(33:27):
say Lane, So if he doesn't want it, Kingsbury makes sense.
You got you want to have a coach who's connected
with the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
All right, So moving on, we've got we gotta we
got to clarify some stuff. Okay, Apparently, uh, not only
did I offend you when I asked if your win
against Rippon was counted as a real win. But I
also offended Tom Telesco, former Raiders and Chargers GM, who
was a guest on the show.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
First of all, I don't care what Dan bear is
the congrats on the win?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
About that? I first of all, first.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Things, first, I don't know what Dan bears. The congrats
on the win?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Dan Bear?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Can we stop.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Dan Bear?
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah? Can we stop ripping on each other today? Can
we stop ripping?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Here?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
He stop ripping? Ripping on each other? Yeah, that's a
that's a pun. That's all it is that. I thought
it's a legitimate question. And then the way that Doug
laid it out of saying we played two exhibition games,
one once against Bradley D one another against Saint Norbert,
(34:36):
not D one, right, Like that's so you laid it
out that those are exhibitions in college football, you could
only play one FCS school, I believe is the rule
to count towards your record. So to ask if this
was a win or not. Then on the back end,
I realized that Telesco took it personally. Do we have
(34:59):
that audio?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Sam? No, he just needs a D three guy.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, And he said on behalf of all D three athletes,
it would be cool. I never said it wouldn't Tom,
Like I never said that. I wanted to know is
if this counts as an actual win, which I think
is a legitimate question that other basketball fans like myself
would want to know. And I felt you took it personally.
(35:24):
I felt to let's go, took it personally.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think it personally I was. I feel yeah, again,
I don't think I took it personally. I just I
was surprised that you didn't know as a win.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
But you could see why they would be confusion, like
there were like in hindsight.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
In hindsight, I actually do because at the end of
the game, like I don't think the guys understood like
it's a win. I feel good it's a win, and
they're like, eh, like we were my twenty probably, I
mean we missed thirteen layups, miss thirteen free throws, just
were not as sharp offensively seemed to be. And part
of it is we've been grinding him, trying to get
ready for these the bigger games upcoming and just trying
(36:02):
to get better. Well. But yeah, so I think that
in hindsight they probably some of those guys probably don't
know that it counts.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And I think you became the first person to ever
coach a victory and then do a radio show in
the same day before five o'clock local time, because that
happened today, and I thought to LESCo had your back,
But I guess he was just sticking up for himself.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
On behalf of all Division three athletes out there, I
would have loved the chance to play against the Division
one team, even though I got my fut kicked.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, I think it would be great running out of
the tunnel, playing against top level I would love that
for any of those schools. I just didn't know if
it counted as a real game or not. That's all
that it was. It's no disrespect. In fact, I have
so much respect for D three athletes because you have
to love your sports. You have to love your sport
to play it. And not all athletes love their sport,
(36:50):
even at the Division one level, because they'll all, right,
this is a perk, I'll take that perk. So I
have way tons of respect, especially for football players, because man,
football isn't fun. You gotta love it.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Is there a chance for getting this all wrong? When
he said that he doesn't care with bear things. Do
you think he's just a big, etcetering guy.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Do you think he purposely mispronounced my last name to
take this day?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And nobody ever says, can you pick me up some bear?
They always say talent a or ail, and.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I thought it was you know, I don't know. I
guess we have beef now.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Even til let's go have beef. And that is the press.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Who wins the night? Dan Bear?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The Packers win, according to Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Bayer, Yeah, Dan Bayer says it. I agree with it,
Packers minus one and a half. You'll see me if
somebody does a Lambeau leap.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
First of all, I don't care what Dan Bear says.
Congrats on the win,
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in hope, You're having a great day.
The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day. I'm
in Green Bay there in Sherman Oaks, California. We're just here.
Four guys who love sports, been working together for a
long time talking about football occasionally basketball sport not really baseball,
(00:41):
crazy college football weekend, weird NFL weekend, some college hoops
this weekend as well. A lot to get to Buyer
is a Seahawks fan, So you got the dub, Jay
Stu and I Big Charger fans. We got the dub.
Last night, Sam suffered through a really really tough loss
(01:04):
as an Iowa Haka fan. That's Saturday night, but still
fun game at Kiddick. So we got a lot to
draw it in terms of what we'd like to do,
just kind of an update for this hour, preve you
Monday night football. I am going to the game tonight,
cold Lambeau game. This is one that everybody kind of
checks their boxes. This is the one that I got
(01:26):
season tickets. I'm going to this one. You'll see your
boy potentially with a Lambeau leap because I got Lambeau
leap seats. I'm the one with the big schnage, but
I'll be covered up so you might only see my
nose and my eyes nothing else. It is a brisk
twenty eight degrees with twenty five mile an hour gusts,
which means it's really really cold, really cold. Well, with that,
(01:49):
let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Meet these player Hays, Damn Byer, what do you got buddy?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I do need to make this point because there was
a possibility that we were going to be in Green
Bay broadcasting the show as a crew. That did not happen.
When I texted Jason what the forecast was going to be,
Jason played it off like no big deal. You were
you were ready for the elements. Jason Stewart right experience.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I like to experience what that place is known for.
So if I go to a restaurant or something, I'll
get the one thing that they're known for. I went
to London for my only trip across the overseas. I
went to London and it was sunny for four days,
and it rained and was foggy. On the fifth day
I played. I played hooky is that the word from work?
(02:52):
On the fifth day and I just walked around listening
to the smiths and had more serenading me through fog
and depressed in rain. And that was my favorite day
in London.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So if I go to Green Bay, I want it
to be freezing temperature.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like, look, we you would have
lucked out like it's November's hit or miss in terms
of cold. Here's what I'm gonna offer up to you, guys. Okay,
December twenty seventh. December twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Can't do it?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah? Because of Christmas.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, my cousin's actually coming out because he wants to
go to a Chargers game. So I'm hoping that gets
flex to a Saturday contest. But who do they who
do the Packers play in the twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Ravens Ravens, so I think by then the Ravens will
be fighting for a playoff spot. Right yeah, makes sense.
Games with Lamar back, so that that's the next one.
I'm not I'm traveling for the rest of you. Guys
should come out anytime you want. I'll get tickets. You
stay at my house. You're all good to go, use
my car, don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Let's do this the Chargers Texans on the twenty seventh.
Get four tickets for fan of his cousin Jacob and
me and if we can get the that sweet deal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Don't worry about it. No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Worry about you need sweets.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Have Doug hit his contact up and we'll we'll ride
it in luxury.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Okay, Tonight it's a Gold Package game as well, so
the Milwaukee fans will be there, just won't be as loud.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hey, I had with a buddy last night. There's three
Milwaukee games every year, right.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yes, there's one preseason and two regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh, I thought there's three regular seasons. He was right.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I was wrong because my family has relatives have the
Green package.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Green packages if you're in Green Bay, Gold packages if
you're in a Milwaukee Milwaukee, Milwaukeekeean Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Ken Milwaukee and Milwaukee something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
All right, Actually it's pronounced Meliwaukee.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
There you go, which is Algonquin for the good Land.
I love that. What do you got there? I was, Sam,
what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think we skipped over Dan Well. I'll just say this.
Doug mentioned Jonathan Taylor earlier today. He also is on
my fantasy team. What a show in Berlin. I got
up to watch that game because he wasn't my fantasy team.
He was absolutely magnificent, including adding on the touchdown in overtime,
which I know ruined some things for others because the
Colts won by six. But what a magnificent day for
(05:22):
Jonathan Taylor and the Colts, specifically for Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I kind of hate I hate myself when it comes
to these players, Like I really am jealous of people
that own Jonathan Taylor, Like I get pissed off at
myself when not drafting him. But I was in the
same boat last year with Saquon Barkway, And if you
think about it, their careers are very similar. They're a
great when they're healthy and they've just been you never
(05:48):
know when they're not injured. Jonathan Taylor is like a
top three fantasy pick a couple of years, then he's
a second rounder. Saquon Barkley the same deal. It's just
it's frustrating when these guys hit big on the year
you don't drop.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Here's the other thing. A lot of leagues are PPR,
so they're like, well, Taylor isn't as much of a
factor out of the backfield to say, like, you know,
Devona a Chan might be, so he slips a little bit,
but when you're rushing for that much and he did catch,
he has been decent out of the backfield, giving some bonus.
But that also plays into it. It's ridiculous, but it
(06:21):
does with some people's rankings.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
All right, Sam, okay, go ahead, you get your your
pound of flesh.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
So Dan brought up Jonathan Taylor's incredible two hundred plus
yard performs there in Germany. I love I love broadcasts
in any sport in any other language but English. Let's
listen to what Jonathan Taylor touchdown in German from two
years ago.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Hey, what did he do? Saucage pan and as on
Taylor Taylor lifety right now, it's a touchdown sex.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Ye Foddy Colts.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
How about how about?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
How about the Football Night in America had a little
little package Jonathan Taylor a little ramshean underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh yeah, sounds a lot better when they do itig.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
That is so good.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
And then actually here's ah, here's a very fun uh
little clip from a broadcast between the Saints and the
Falcons from two years ago.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Oh deception, deception option is to follow on every born.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The Germans. So you think that's funny?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
I also found uh an Illinois football in Illinois fighting
a lie and I call from h have this since
twenty nineteen in Mandarin.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Here we go a Joe, you go.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Find Paul and one more god.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Let me eat right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I have no idea what they're saying. I have no
idea how they find these guys. They speak the language fluently,
and they're also fans of American football. But those are
fun and I love the Germans and they're.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Laughting the Germans having such a cool time? Was this
American German ball?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
The Germans?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
All right, thank you guys?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Do did do jase do?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Let me left on the weekend, real fast, just a
live tweet Camaro Guy twenty eight, did you really have
to play the last four cuts in the foreign language?
I will say this, There's only one reason I'm a
Chargers fan. Only one reason. It's my son Jacob. He's
the biggest fan I know. He went to the game
(08:43):
last night, sent me a text saying that it was
like seventy five percent Steeers fans. He was one of
the one of the few that were rooting for the
Chargers last night at so far and they pulled it
out and he was happy. And when he's happy, I'm happy.
So I love that Chargers win.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jacobspi chadges win and happy. Uh okay, Mine's pretty easy,
to be honest with you. That's something I love from
the weekend. I just I really really love watching one
game this weekend above ALUs, Did you guys see what
(09:23):
old miss head coach Lane Kiffin did. There was a
proposal on the field like before the fourth quarter, right
and like Lane Kiffin midgame goes over and like shakes
the guy's hand, talks to him afterwards. It kind of
gives him an out of boy. Just I don't know
what happened to Lane Kiffin. He was so obnoxious early
(09:44):
on his career, and now he's become like the most
likable dude ever, you know, talking about his daughter's boyfriend,
his own relationship post divorce. He's just very at peace
with himself at ole Miss. I mean, here's the guy who,
you know, fail up after getting fired by the Raiders,
leaves Tennessee after one year, goes to sc right the
(10:06):
whole thing. But I don't know, I just really like
where Lane Kiffin is. I think it's fun to watch him.
And if you watch that interaction that was magnificent. During
the Old Miss.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Game, Ole Miss beat the Citadel forty nine to nothing.
The Council is an overall win, obviously a non conference game.
They had five first downs. Citadel did and head the
ball for thirty two minutes. The starting quarterback had stats
that look like he plays quarterback for Wisconsin. He was
three of six for twenty three yards. That's that's what
(10:37):
the Citadel. That's why you can take pictures with the
newly engaged when the Citadel comes to town and has
five first downs in the entire contest.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, I'll give you another one. How about Wisconsin's win
against wow Yah Washington, Right, Luke Fickel. Everybody thought dead
man walking. They decide, hey, we're going We're running it
back for one more year. He had four different players
throw a pass in the game, like they're just trying
new quarterback, New quarterback Carter Smith. I think Carter Smith.
(11:06):
You know, as a freshman, they won a game with
their leading passer was three of twelve. They were six
of eighteen with forty eight yards throwing the football and
one and one in the old find a way. Wisconsin
found away. Rewarded their coach, who rewarded the athletic department
(11:26):
with giving him another year to try and run this
thing back. That was a hell of aid. If you
can win with forty eight yards passing, I tip my captain.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Sean West is their punter. I don't know if he
became the first ever or first in a long time
to lead his team in rushing and in passing in
a gameless season. He had twenty the most that they
had on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's amazing. I love it. I love sports.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
All right, let's get to what ask real QUI coach Fickle,
he got like the vote of confidence, I mean like
they had to show some improvement. But he think once
he had that vote of confidence, he was like, all right,
let's just go win one because like they just if
they just didn't win any games the rest of the year, man,
that's just gonna be hard to start next year. But
this is this definitely lights a fire under their butts.
A ranked win, yeah, a win period.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
At home the fifth quarter, I'm sure was rocking in
mad time. All right, let's get to what we hated
from the weekend. Our resident hater is Jason Stewart. What do ayeat?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Jay got an email yesterday. I think I'm on record
as saying that I've been a YouTube TV subscriber since
before it was cool. I cut the court early, I
think in twenty eighteen, been a subscriber ever since. So
this kind of puts it in even a more harsh context. Hi, Jason,
(12:45):
We've been working in good faith and negotiate a deal
with Disney that pays them fairly for their content and
returns their programmingto YouTube TV. We know it's been disappointing
to lose Disney content. We want to know how deeply
appreciative we are of your patients, and light of that,
we're off in you subscribers a twenty dollars credit. Twenty
dollars credit. Now, now you could argue, like what is that?
(13:09):
How do they come to that number? Like what how
do they measure that twenty bucks is enough to keep
customers happy through this very frustrating time without insulting them.
So you could argue that point. But here's the real
insulting point. Over the next few days, you will receive
a follow up email with instructions on how to redeem
(13:29):
your twenty dollars credit. So, in other words, I'm going
to have to do the work to get my credit.
I don't get ESPN or ABC or my Jeopardy, and
you're gonna make me do the work to give me
a credit your Google, you are worth trillions of dollars.
I'm guessing as a part of your business model you
(13:51):
are able to refund twenty dollars without me going through
an extra step put it on the bill. This is
insulting and for the first time in my career as
a YouTube TV subscriber, I'm considering ending my relationship. We
are not going to get Monday night football again tonight.
(14:13):
This is the first time in the history of these negotiations,
whether it's Comcast, or Direct TV where two Monday night
football games have been put in jeopardy. To me, this
is a bridge too far. It is a problem when
two trillion dollar mega corporations are squabbling at the inconvenience
(14:39):
and the actually the torture. I'm gonna go that far
use torture of their consumers. It's not acceptable, mad.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
As hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Play that to me and his man's money. Damn by
what what?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
No reaction to that? Well, no reaction to watch the
game here YouTube TV subscribers among.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
The four of us, I will be watching the game tonight.
I'll immediately change the channel and I'll flip back direct
TV in the house.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, it's the only reason I have. The only reason
I have YouTube TV is red Zone and multiview. That's it,
and I'm good with it. I'm good with moving on
if that's if that's the thing, Like I don't, I'm
my problem with it. Jay stu Is, I actually see
the argument, right, Actually see the argument on either side.
(15:38):
I don't blame the ESPN.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You're for the trillionaires, No, I just.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You're running a business and the rights cost a ton
of money. You know for like the SEC and if
you have the SEC games, Like yeah, we're like, we're
going to charge you our our fees to carry our
our to carry our service. Like that's the deal, you know,
A part of me, I don't know the difference how
far the part they are in money per sub I
(16:04):
don't know the details of that. I don't care. It's
not my business. I just want to see it on TV.
But I do understand this has happened with It's basically
happened with everybody. This is the first one that's happened
in middle of the season. Comcast had it one year
with somebody. We've seen all these different characters.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, that's the first time that two live NFL games
have been compromised. If you're for the trillionaires, that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But I'm not for the trillionaires. But like again, none
of this content is going to be free. That's it.
I mean, it's just not gonna be free. So I
don't know what, Like, Okay, so what do you propose
has to happen? You just get them in a room
and whatever wherever you are, let's just meet halfway and
do a deal.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would say, at the very weast as a stop gap.
There's three things that could be done. Because the NFL
is the behemoth that it is, it could tell ESPN
to put the game on ESPN Plus tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm guessing contractually they can't.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
No, they're the NFL. They could do whatever they can't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Again, when matter, there's a certain place you can't put it, Jason.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
When you have I guess, uh, circumstances that are extreme,
then you could take extreme measures to at the very
least optically tell your consumers that you care about them. So,
between ESPN and also uh, the NFL, you would think
that something some olive branch could be extended to the consumers.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So, and let me just quick interject here, Jason wants
the NFL to say ESPN put it on ESPN Plus,
which would weaken the argument for YouTube TV that has
a deal with the NFL for the Sunday ticket. So,
so you want the NFL to go back on there
basically to stab YouTube TV in the back, but help
(17:54):
ESPN out for the viewer's sake, Yes, for the view.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You Jason, you're in fantasy world. You're in absolute fantasyland.
You're in fantasyland. Doesn't football no it's again, just give
me my football. Like again, this is the issue. It
can paid the picture perfectly. Like, either way you do it,
one of the two companies are gonna be screwed that
you can't put it on ESPN Plus because that's a
(18:20):
violation of the contract, the contract you have with them.
But also it's a violation of the contracts you have
when Netflix has a specific contract with NBC, with CBS
and with Fox. You can only place it where you
have paid to place it. Right, So that's the reality
of the deal. If anything, the NFL wins on this
(18:42):
thing because people are going to be so upset they're
going to make their voices hurt. This, by the way,
is no different than when MTV first came to be Right,
do you remember MTV? Call your cable provider and tell
them I want my MTV. Right used to have to
and you're like, why doesn't everybody have MTV? Well, because
in order to carry it, you gotta pay for it.
Because they got to pay for all these videos. It's
(19:03):
the same thing. It's prohibitively expensive to broadcast the NFL. Hey, now,
of that NFL highlights, I don't know the number. Now,
did you guys know, it's two hundred fifty thousand dollars
per minute to do an NFL highlight, right, That's why
like when you see all these all these teams like
like Fox for example, Fox Sports one, they won't run
(19:25):
NFL b role because b roll, that's the video of
highlights whatever. It costs two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a minute. And it's also a lot like cell phone
minutes back when we were back when we were like
in college, you get your first cell phone, you're like, ah,
one hundred minutes or thousand minutes. I'm never going over.
Any second is a minute. So my point is it's
ridiculously expensive to broadcast the NFL. ESPN knows that, So
(19:49):
they're not gonna go like, hey, YouTube watch pay less
than everybody else is paying for our content. No big deal,
you got ten million customers. You can't do it again.
I'm not saying there's not room for negotiation and ways
to smooth it over, and it should be done by now.
But I also can tell you that like you're you're
you're talking in absolute fantasy terms, which will never happen
just because it feels like it should. So fans can
(20:10):
see it. That's not the reality of multi billion dollar businesses.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
No, I mean, you guys are for Therion and.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I did not take a side. I did not take
a side.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Socialist run in New York City today.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Again, again there's a there's a perfect example. I mean
socialism argument. Okay, so so so China stop buying soy
So China stopped buying soybeans. Stop buying soybeans because of
the tariffs from the United States. Right, So all these
farmers had all these soybeans. So what are we gonna do.
We're gonna bail out the farmers because that's what we do.
We have farm aide and we pay people to not
(20:43):
produce milk, to not produce things. And you're like, well,
forget about socialism. Okay, you're gonna let all these farmers
completely starve because we have this tariff thing. No, you
gotta deal with reality, and the reality is that this
is a business. This is the business that we chosen. Okay.
And yes, Pian has done this with the ESPNU, with
the ESPN News, with the ESPN two, and they do
(21:04):
with the ESPN Plus now they're doing Monday Night Football.
They have paid a huge sum of money for Monday
Night football. If you want to broadcast it, you got
to pay the fee. You got to pay the proper increase.
If you don't, then we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Have a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And what's what, It's a game of chicken. What's gonna
happen first to people gonna get upset with the ESPN. No,
what they're gonna do is they'll pull off of YouTube
and they'll move on to a service that does carry it.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
What you're you're gonna go back to cable?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I would, I would gladly. I would gladly go back
to Cable.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Really.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I like the Cable bundle. Cable Bundle had I had
no problem I going backwards. If I go to Spectrum,
wait home. If I go to Spectrum, I get Lakers games,
I get Dodger games, and I can get Monday Night football.
I don't have to put up with any of the nonsense.
The only thing I don't get is I don't get multiview.
All right, Uh, anybody else got anything to hit it
(21:53):
this weekend?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
First you Sam, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
All right, I'll be quick. Uh Saturday, you all know it,
Hawkeye heartbreak. If you were a true freshman starting for
Iowa in twenty twenty two, you still have not beaten
a ranked team with the Hawkeyes. They are oh to
twelve since they started losing the ranked teams in twenty
twenty one. They beat three ranked teams to start the
season since then oh and twelve, and some of them
(22:18):
are by excruciatingly heartbreaking manners of defeat. Like Saturday, I
just I don't know, I don't want to do this
felt kind of like Iowa's lost in the Big Ten
championship game ten years ago. It hurt that much where
it's like left me sideways even into the next day
and just thinking about right now, it just makes me
kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So my hate.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
That's my hate.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Man a game, beat a ranked days.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You have an opportunity on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Hold on. J Mack from Norman tweets me. Tell j
Stew thank you. As a YouTube TV subscriber, I agree
with everything he said. Both companies are blind to their subscribers,
and occurring at the same time as the government shutdown
is even more sad. Government shutdown is the perfect parallel.
You're like, I just opened the government, all right. See,
if you're a Democrat, like you want all these people
to lose all their aid. No, because your constituents won't
(23:04):
want that. If you're a Republican, you're scared of doing
against anything Potus says, because then he's going to stick
his dogs on you. Right, So again, sounds really easy
when we're not involved Twitter. That's my boy J Mac, So.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
J Mack and I are not for trillion nerves. And
you guys are it's August. You guys already drew the one.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Then I got I got a text of J Max
from the Beach Cities, he says, I got a rec
league game tonight, so I will be recording the game
on my DVR.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Will be recording his rec league game on DVR and then.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Broadcasting highlights to come after.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know what I need? I need. I need to
know what he's running offensively, so it helps it helps us. Yes,
that that that's what That's what I need. That is
love and hey.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
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I want to talk about last night's Sunda Night football game?
Is that Fallout boy? Is that? Does this? Does fallow Boy?
Do all these covers disturb? Does these covers?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
If you're on the podcast, you like, I don't know it.
What's that song called? That's a Atlantic confusion. That's a
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because we we think alike in regards to Phil Collins
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Appreciate you telling me that Doug Gottlieb show here on
(24:41):
team this year. Thank you there, mister President. Hey, I
I just I'm gonna mention this thing. The deal with
Trump wanting the new RFK named after him is it's
it's the giving yourself a nickname thing, is it not,
Dan Byer? Right, It's like you can have somebody name
(25:01):
a stadium after you, but like, hey, there's two things.
One you can't ask for it and two actually usually
you have to give some money. Right, That's actually how
it has to how it has to happen. I didn't
realize it with all these other like honors and hall
of Fames and things that. But apparently that's the way
it works, like Hollywood Walk of Fame. Do you guys
know that you have to people have to have to
(25:22):
donate money or somebody has to donate.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it's all a boondoggle, all of it bo and
uh and and to me, I just thought it's hilarious,
Like you're our president, I insert your name here, you
put insert your name here.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I'm gonna say this because now stadiums, without being a
corporate sponsor like it is, we are so far removed
from that. Yeah, basically with most facilities, so anything that
was new, I just automatically assumed that there would be
some sort of company that would move in and that's
the new stadium where the commanders would play, never even
(26:04):
giving any thought that it could be named after someone
including the president.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah. Now listen, there there were if you remember Connell
Airlines Arena, that was the arena built on the swamp
right next to the old UH Giants stadium. Right it
was named Brendan Burn Arena. Okay, Brendan Burn was the
governor at the time in which it was of New
Jersey when it was built. Why was it named after
the governor. Well, it's built on swamp land, and the
(26:32):
only way to get things done in Jersey is to
do it, you know, through the government, you know, the
shady way. Jersey politics are everything you think they are
so and I'm I know that's what the president thinks.
He's like, Look, I pushed this thing through, I got
it into DC, I got the great You can ask
for the name the thing to be named after you,
(26:53):
but you can't ask yourself. That's that's the giving yourself
a nickname.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
The retractable roof should be a comb over of his
air amazing. The design is it would be amazing. This
takes eighteen minutes to close.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
That be sweet. I don't think that there has ever
been a US stadium named after a former president. So
leads me to this this question. Do you think Trump
thinks that he would be the first or do you
think Trump thinks RFK was a president?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Probably both.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Well, there was the Taft Dome. I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I do think there was probably one named after a president.
They just we did we.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
There's JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, so that's the old one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, they got knocked down for the one before right,
not not not before the link what was.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
The on one called that they used to Veterans Stadium.
Veterans Stadium, see y'all at the taft Yeah, bring it?
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The I insert your name here is one of the
funniest things ever. It was his own Uh what's uh?
What's the character at Anchorman?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Shoot?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was his Ron BURGUNDYMO, I'm Ron Burgundy. I insert
your name here. Hey, last night, Sunday night football, I
had a bunch of bets with friends, my son and I.
My son great text, We're on a four way group
group text, little bet, little fifty dollars wager for him
(28:40):
versus Trey shactor who's from Pittsburgh. At the end of
the night, it was like, Hey, Trey, I need my
money by the time school starts tomorrow or it goes
from fifty to seventy five. He's charging him the big
about that. I do think though, that it it. It
looks like Aaron Rodgers doesn't happen anymore. I can't tell.
(29:01):
But it's been a couple weeks now where you're like
it was starting to look better, and what it is
you can't necessarily pinpoint it, like there's not any one throw,
but there was just a consistency of magic that he had.
And one of the things that Aaron Rodgers did for
a long time was he would never turn the ball over.
(29:23):
And now he turns the ball over a ton. He
still kind of looks like Aaron Rodgers does some Aaron
Rodgers things, but he just doesn't do it nearly as well,
which is what happens as you get older. You know,
those quick, snip snap throws and now you're on the move.
And he used to be able to run for a
first down or run and find his guys. It's just
and look, you can blame some of it on the
(29:43):
fact they have embarrassingly poor wide receiving corps, but yeah,
I mean the takeaway is justin Herbert is a stud
stud you know, the ability to win a game or
two behind that off defensive line is amazing, whereas Aaron
(30:04):
Rodgers not a great offensive line, but not terrible, only
as one quality wide receiver, big old tight end or whatever,
but keeps turning the football over and they just don't
look right out of My takeaway last night was, man,
the Steelers are old up front. Defensively, they get no
pressure on the passer and Aaron Rodgers looks like, Yeah,
(30:27):
this is what the last year usually looks like. Agree, disagree.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Dmbier I said that this is unfortunately Emmett Smith in
a Cardinals uniform. And the reason I say that is
because Emmitt Smith in a Cardinals uniform actually almost had
a thousand yard season for Arizona in his final year.
He actually had nine touchdown runs. And while Rodgers hasn't
been awful, and he had that great game against Pittsburgh,
(30:52):
he's not at the top of his game, just like
Emmett wasn't at the top of his game. I think
we'll look back at this one season in Pittsburgh and
be like, that was weird. I think that was I mean,
even the Jets made a lot more sense. But yeah,
it's just down there. They're not good enough for him
to He's not good enough to cover up the warts
that the Steelers still have.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's that's the point. The best of the best, and
this is where this has always been my thing with
rock perty right, the best of the best they find
a way to cover up those warts. They may not
be great, but they can they can make they're still
competitive and you win some of these Games. Rogers is
not that guy anymore. I don't think Perdy's ever been
that guy. Herbert appears to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I think he did it last night. Herbert.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Oh Yeah. Coming up next to The Doug Gotlieb Show,
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Here's Dan Byron with the press.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
The press, All right, Doug, Brian dabole out of a job,
fired today as the head coach of the New York Giants.
Right now, Mike Kafka is going to take over on
an interim basis. But if Kafka doesn't get the full
time job. Ben Online says, right now, the shortest odds
(32:38):
of being the next Giants head coach Lane Kiffin four
to one, Cliff Kingsbury five to one, the Commander's offensive coordinator,
Well Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter right now listed at
six to one.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Uh, the Lane kiffn connection is because he coached CKX
Darton College. Is that it? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Who is the second Kingsbury?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, that Kingsbury would be the one. I would, I would,
I would go with I. Again, I don't know. I
don't know what Lane wants. Right. It feels like he
loves ole miss. He's making a ton of money. I'm
guessing he'll re up, you know, because everybody in the
SEC wants to hire him. He'll get like ten million
a year. Again, don't know what he wants. I don't
(33:27):
say Lane, So if he doesn't want it, Kingsbury makes sense.
You got you want to have a coach who's connected
with the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
All right, So moving on, we've got we gotta we
got to clarify some stuff. Okay, Apparently, uh, not only
did I offend you when I asked if your win
against Rippon was counted as a real win. But I
also offended Tom Telesco, former Raiders and Chargers GM, who
was a guest on the show.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
First of all, I don't care what Dan bear is
the congrats on the win?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
About that? I first of all, first.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Things, first, I don't know what Dan bears. The congrats
on the win?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Dan Bear?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Can we stop.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Dan Bear?
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah? Can we stop ripping on each other today? Can
we stop ripping?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Here?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
He stop ripping? Ripping on each other? Yeah, that's a
that's a pun. That's all it is that. I thought
it's a legitimate question. And then the way that Doug
laid it out of saying we played two exhibition games,
one once against Bradley D one another against Saint Norbert,
(34:36):
not D one, right, Like that's so you laid it
out that those are exhibitions in college football, you could
only play one FCS school, I believe is the rule
to count towards your record. So to ask if this
was a win or not. Then on the back end,
I realized that Telesco took it personally. Do we have
(34:59):
that audio?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Sam? No, he just needs a D three guy.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, And he said on behalf of all D three athletes,
it would be cool. I never said it wouldn't Tom,
Like I never said that. I wanted to know is
if this counts as an actual win, which I think
is a legitimate question that other basketball fans like myself
would want to know. And I felt you took it personally.
(35:24):
I felt to let's go, took it personally.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think it personally I was. I feel yeah, again,
I don't think I took it personally. I just I
was surprised that you didn't know as a win.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
But you could see why they would be confusion, like
there were like in hindsight.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
In hindsight, I actually do because at the end of
the game, like I don't think the guys understood like
it's a win. I feel good it's a win, and
they're like, eh, like we were my twenty probably, I
mean we missed thirteen layups, miss thirteen free throws, just
were not as sharp offensively seemed to be. And part
of it is we've been grinding him, trying to get
ready for these the bigger games upcoming and just trying
(36:02):
to get better. Well. But yeah, so I think that
in hindsight they probably some of those guys probably don't
know that it counts.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And I think you became the first person to ever
coach a victory and then do a radio show in
the same day before five o'clock local time, because that
happened today, and I thought to LESCo had your back,
But I guess he was just sticking up for himself.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
On behalf of all Division three athletes out there, I
would have loved the chance to play against the Division
one team, even though I got my fut kicked.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, I think it would be great running out of
the tunnel, playing against top level I would love that
for any of those schools. I just didn't know if
it counted as a real game or not. That's all
that it was. It's no disrespect. In fact, I have
so much respect for D three athletes because you have
to love your sports. You have to love your sport
to play it. And not all athletes love their sport,
(36:50):
even at the Division one level, because they'll all, right,
this is a perk, I'll take that perk. So I
have way tons of respect, especially for football players, because man,
football isn't fun. You gotta love it.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Is there a chance for getting this all wrong? When
he said that he doesn't care with bear things. Do
you think he's just a big, etcetering guy.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Do you think he purposely mispronounced my last name to
take this day?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And nobody ever says, can you pick me up some bear?
They always say talent a or ail, and.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I thought it was you know, I don't know. I
guess we have beef now.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Even til let's go have beef. And that is the press.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Who wins the night? Dan Bear?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The Packers win, according to Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Bayer, Yeah, Dan Bayer says it. I agree with it,
Packers minus one and a half. You'll see me if
somebody does a Lambeau leap.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
First of all, I don't care what Dan Bear says.
Congrats on the win,
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