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but l A Radio, He uh, they are a what's
the word I'm looking for that franchise. They are an institution.
They're an institution in Los Angeles, Petros and Money. He's
also the Chargers played by play Man. He's got a
lot of jobs, but one of the voices of l
A Sports. Money Smith will join us in about thirty minutes.
We'll talk Lebron, We'll talk the Clippers. I think both
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are a fascinating conversation. John Collins of the Hawks will
join us. He's had an outstanding year. Will get get
his thoughts on how far away the Hawks are from
being relevant. They're fun to watch and with a couple
of exceptions, Trey Young has been outstanding since the All
Star break um and they played a great pace. I
think Collins actually the best young player. Get his sense
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for what this is like. Plus I want to get
his take on the other teams in the East, because
it's not like he has to worry about facing in
any of them in the playoffs. Right, who does he
think the best team in the eighth actually is? Chris
Mannix has been our guest NBA insider for Sports Illustrated,
and Michael Lombardi will be our guest former NFL GM
and of course an author. So we got a lot
to get to, but let me start with last night
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at Staples Center. That was weird, Right, That was weird
because if I told you, hey, a all time great
player playing for the Lakers past Michael Jordans on the
all time scoring list, you would say, well, they stopped
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the game. They had dignitaries coming out. Everybody tweeted something out,
everybody released glowing statements about that player. It must have
been an amazing and it was kind of the opposite
of it. It's kind of the opposite of it. Now.
Part of this deal with Lebron James is he's basically
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been married three or four times, four times to three
different people. Marriage, you know, marriage, marries the high school
sweetheart in the Cleveland Cavaliers, then gets a divorce and
goes and marries like the sexy hot Salsa chick in
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Miami and then decides, all right, enough playing around. Now,
I want to go back and move back home, have
some kids, dig some roots, plant some roots, right, dig
some ruts, plant some roots. And then this is kind
of like a second marriage, but it's really the fourth
the second marriage. You go out to l a and
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you meet the new woman. But the problem with the
Lakers is the Lakers have been married to plenty of
other stars, right, and so last night was almost like
a wedding or some sort of celebration, you know, a
life anniversary for a life well lived. And you're sitting
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there going like, hey, this is a really big thing.
You're like yeah, but you're like, it's like your fourth marriage.
You didn't score any of those points with us, You
didn't wanny of those championships with us. And by the way,
we've had all time grades. Look up top, you want
a second or set of record. There's cap sky hook.
That's the record to go after assist that guy's up
there in Magic Johnson and oh yeah, by the way,
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look around there's sixteen banners. We want number seventeen. I
walk away feeling bad for Lebron James because and any
of us who have moved to Los Angeles moved to
southern California experienced this. There's an l A is great,
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it is rate. I live in southern California. I live
in Orange County, which technically is not Los Angeles and
has a different vibe than l A. But there are
a lot of similarities. And having moved from Connecticut twice
to southern California, both times I experienced the exact same thing.
There is nothing you cannot do in southern California. Nothing.
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You want to ski hour away Max, and with all
the rain that we've had, it's not even an hour away,
but unbelievable snow an hour away. And you go to
three hours away and you've got great slopes. You want
to serve fifteen minutes away. You want to go to Mexico,
you can get in the car, you can get in
the train, you get on a plane, you can be
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in Cabo and no time at all. Vegas forty five
minutes away on a flight, and then even hard you
can take a chopper there if you want. You got
to Santa Barbara, and you feel like you know an
inland from Santa Barbara. Some of those areas there's vineyards
there like you feel like you're in Greece or in Italy.
There is nothing you cannot do. You can make movies,
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or you can be a nobody. Put a hat on,
grab a Starbucks, sit out, sit outside, read a paper,
and nobody bothers you. But you know what, everyone has
that opportunity. And because everyone has that opportunity, everybody's doing
their own thing. This is the you go from being
the biggest fish in a small pond to a really
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big fish in a really big pond. Lebron James is
not the biggest star in Los Angeles. Coming to l
A was a big thing. I'm not trying to diminish it.
But he's not the first and won't be the last
to move his shop from the Midwest to southern California.
It's a tale as old as time, and so I
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think that his assumption was he would go there and
plant his flag and hey, I signed for four years
and we're gonna win, We're gonna be a championship and
he would be beloved. And from the moment somebody put
up a mural to somebody being dumb enough to deface him,
you roll. It hasn't been that great and when you
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get home, your kids are at new schools, making new friends,
playing with new AU teams. Your daughter's in a new preschool,
your wife's fingering out new friends. Who's real, who's fake.
Everybody has a million things going on. You don't live
near your teammates because you're Lebron James. Back when you're
in Cleveland, maybe you didn't live near your teammates, but
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they weren't that far away. We had your compound and
people could come over. You knew everybody. Everybody knew you.
You kind of had your rhythm. And though it grows
tiring to do the same thing over and over again.
And the idea of there's not that many things to
do in Cleveland, but you know what happens when there's
not that many things to do. Everybody does things together.
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It's a snow day, you're throwing a movie and everybody
gets on the couch. You don't have that in Los Angeles,
especially when you're new. You think it's gonna be awesome.
It's gonna be like the movies. It's gonna be seventy
five and sunny. I got a surfboard hanging out. There's
babes everywhere. This is gonna be amazing. I'm going to Hollywood.
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I'm gonna go to the best restaurants. I'm gonna go
to the best clubs. My kid's gonna go the best schools.
Everybody's a star. I'll just fit in. Sounds great. Here's
the deal. Everybody's kind of in themselves. Everybody's kind of
get their own thing. Everybody's trying to attain their own status,
not feed off of yours. And last night had to
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be if it hasn't previously been an eye opening experience
for Lebron James and I actually feel a good amount
of sympathy. I grew up in the city of Orange,
which is as average a town as you're gonna get
in southern California. The downtown has the Orange Circle. And
if you've seen them movie That Thing You Do? You
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guys ever seen that Tom Hanks movie who That you Know?
You know? You know that Thing You Do? Okay, the
opening scenes were supposed to be in Erie, Pennsylvania. That's
actually Orange, California, my hometown. There's a growing school there,
Chapman University. It's got like students, is pretty cool, but
it's it's not Anaheim and Butts Anaheim, where the stadium
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is and where Disneyland is. It's smack dab in the
middle of Orange. And when I grew up there, there
were a lot of orange grows there. There's some people
live in the hills, and there's some people that you know,
are living in apartments and shanties and day labors. There's
a little bit of everything. It is lower middle class
at best. And so when I moved back, I think
my wife, who's from Oklahoma and we lived lived in Connecticut,
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we lived in Oklahoma, we lived in Russia, we lived
in Israel. Her thought was surfboards, babes, good looking dudes,
everybody just chill and relax in the California dream. And
the first six to nine months both times she hated it.
I didn't like it, even though when we lived in
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Connecticut she grew frustrated with the weather, the taxes, the roads,
which were basically cow trails from the seventeen hundreds that
people paved over could become tiresome and even tedious. The
mixture of people from New York and Massachusetts, the mass
Holes from up north and the New York and the
New Yorkers from down south into this Yankees Red Sox
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rivalry that we didn't care anything about. You end up
yearning for that, for that normalcy. Change is great. Transition
is hard, and eventually I think Lebron will figure some
things out. But l A is not for everybody. It
is not easy. It is really really fast, and the
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idea that you can do anything does not solely apply
to you. It applies to everybody. And instead of being beloved,
instead of being an emperor on the throne, I felt
that that was that people are throwing roses at and
praising and getting tweets and having all sorts of dignitaries
line up to shake his hands. All of the great
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Lakers should have been there last night. Dreams alive he went?
There was he? Jerry West is live and he was
he there. Jerry West is the damn logo of the league.
He is arguably the greatest Laker of all time. He's
the only guy to be the m v P of
the Finals when his team didn't win the championship. That's
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how good Jerry West was. Was he anywhere to be found? No,
because you moved to a franchise which is a completely
dysfunctional family, right, Phil Jackson and Lebron. Their people don't
mesh because he basically told it like it was Mitch
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cup Check. He got sent out with the trash. Now
is in North Carolina with Michael Jordan's Kareem totally aloof,
not connected. Jerry West helping run the Clippers and maybe
running it better than the Lakers after already help helping
the Warriors become a modern day dynasty because he fell
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out of favor with Phil Jackson in a power struggle,
Jerry West has done the opposite of helping the Lakers.
He's help everybody else become better than the Lakers. It's
a mess. And here's Lebron who has only been told
how great he is, and I'll give it up to him.
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And this this is what I've always thought of Tiger Woods,
Like it's really hard to be sixteen seventeen years old
being told you're gonna be the greatest thing since slices
spread and living up to that and not unlike Tiger
Woods having any failings, you know, as a human being
off the court, there's no accusations of drug use, there's
no accusation of womenizing, no that stuff. Like the only
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thing you can about Lebron James is man. He's not
a very good general manager, and he kind of can
be uncomfortable around people. And boy, he's done a poor
job of leadership. And does he want to make take
and make the big shot. But as a human being,
seems like a good father, seems like somebody who wants
to make a bunch of money and do the right
thing at the same time. But Lebron James has only
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been told he's the greatest, and he surrounds himself now
with sycophants who tell him that he's the greatest, and
he accomplishes something which is inarguably unbelievable. Think about this.
Lebron James does not even love scoring. That's not even
what he does. He he is a he's he fills
up a statue, rebounds assist. He's even said I get
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the greatest joy out of seeing somebody else hit the
big shot. And yet he's surpassed Michael Jordan's on the
scoring list and instead of being beloved for it. It
reminded me of do you guys remember the movie uh
Gladia when Joaquin Phoenix returns home as the Emperor, And
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remember people didn't know that he killed his own father
that only the viewer knows. But he returns home as
the emperor, and there's this huge crowd outside and he
gets greeted, and of course there's the grumbling, there's the
grumbling of of the senators. But he's in his own
quarters and he's basically alone. He has no one except
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his sister, and even his sister really is We're into
Russell Crowe right than she's into him. And that's what
I felt like Lebron James felt last night an emperor
of a kingdom which is incredibly dysfunctional, and instead of
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being beloved for a remarkable accomplishment, he felt alone, felt
out a place I felt kind of unwanted, and I
feel a little bit simpathy for it. Give me your thoughts.
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catch up with money Smith. Gotta tell you, Matt money
Smith kind of called this disaster of the Lakers like
five months ago. Uh, we do some football together and
we're good friends. And he was like, I don't see it, Like, no, no, listen, Lebron,
young kids, older guys. Competitive. I was I was drinking
the kool aid and he was like, nah, don't see it. Anyway.
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We'll we'll, we'll, we'll, we will bow down to the
legend that has met money Smith half past the hour after. Plus,
I want to ask him about Josh Rosen, who This
is my thought on Josh Rosen. Somebody thought it's the
thought of everybody in the NFL um I said this
last year. And this is a little bit of an
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l A thing as well. So I think people's vision
of Los Angeles is it's all the same. Everybody drives
cars that are nicer than the place they live somehow.
Everyone lives right on the beach. Everyone's had plastic surgery.
Everyone wants to be in movies. What else. Everybody's in
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the Lakers. Everybody's a Dodger fan in like you know,
there's and what I've told people is even all the
beach cities are not the same. They're not. I'll give
you an example. Music, Are you from Torrance? You live
in Torrents from Okay, you're from tor So. So Torrance,
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um is is a town? I guess the town. Technically,
I think it's a city that's really in Los Angeles
proper or whatever. Okay, So Torrents is ten minutes from
the ocean max right, Well, technically there is a section
of the coast that is Torrance Beach. Okay, so again
it's a beach town per se. But it's really kind
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of a blue collar, very mixed like houses aren't crazy expensive.
And here's the way it breaks down. This may be
two inside the beltway for most people to understand, like
the whole reason Manhattan Beach is a place as a
destination where people from out of the area, even in
the area, when they make money, they move there. Do
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you know what? Do you know what it is? Music?
Do you have any idea? What what? What the logic is? No?
I do not. It has its own school district. Okay,
so if you're in the l A U. S D,
which is I believe the largest school district in the country,
it's a complete confluence of of I mean, it doesn't
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matter what the area, but you'll have from people where
English as their second language and not that doesn't just
mean Hispanic, Like there's multi cultural people who come, Chinese people,
Japanese people, you know, Persians who moved from the Middle
East all the way to all different levels of Caucasians. Right,
do you have this and you're all flowing into one
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pool and not particularly well funded like any school district,
and you know they have funding issues, they have issues with,
you know, trying to balance out and making making each
different area as multicultural as possible, so you have people
busting in and out, whereas Manhattan Beach are like Nana, No,
we don't want that. We're basically building an invisible wall.
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And if you're affluent enough to live in Manhattan Beach apartment,
condo or house, the reason it's more valuable. We have
our own school system. We can keep other people out.
There's no busting people in, so that only increases the value.
As state funded school districts that are as big as
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l A U. S D really really struggled to have
quality education. So that's where Josh Rosen's from, whereas Sam
Donald's from San Clementi, which is kind of there's a
little torrents to it. San Clementi is basically the last
outpost in southern California before you get to Santa No Frey,
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which is now shut down nuclear power plant, and then
nothing and then um and then you have Camp Pendleton
and then San Diego. It's really fairly blue collar, Like
who would choose to live right next to a nuclear
power plant even if it's shut down? O, the water
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is warmer? Why do you think the water is warmer?
And that's where and Donald's from. And you know, like
look segment. He is awesome, and there's some new areas
that there's some places up in the hills which are
you know, new communities and some some affluence there. But
a lot of it is kind of torrents, like in
blue collar. Even in Orange County. It's not like Newport
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Beach and Rosen has a he's from Manhattan Beach. He's
kind of got a Manhattan Beach field to him. Both
his parents rivingly educated, which is not bad. It just
is what it is. He's a tennis player and tennis.
I grew up playing some tennis. You know, tennis. Kid
is country club kid tennis. Kid is kid is. You
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don't have to work. There's no team in tennis. There
is an eye in tennis for a reason. You succeed,
you fail. The only other thing you can blame is
the umpire or your racket. The umpire screwed you in
your racket, lets you down. That's why they're all. They're crazy.
And I have never heard anyone say anything but Josh
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Rosen is really talented, really smart. And no one says
I love Josh Rosen. He's just not a lovable guy.
He's not a dislikable guy. You don't not like him,
but he's not lovable. So the idea that he'll be moved,
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even only after a year in Arizona with the same
general manager and an offense, would she be for a
guy of his football acumen where you just get it
and quickly sling it like it should be made in
heaven for him? But it feels like a foregone conclusion
that he's going to be trade. And I told you
yesterday and I said today in the Herd Redskins need
a starting quarterback, they need one under club control. Makes
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total sense. They go out and get Josh Rosen. But
there's something to Rosen where it's a Manhattan beachs thing
where you're like, yeah, I like it, but I just
I don't love him. Uh, let me quickly tell you
that the team that I think gets I've been the
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lone guy. I've been alone on this island, and eventually
you're gonna come around to it. I felt like I'm
the only one who got the Gruden plan to begin with.
Knew that they were basically going all going, you know,
the bankruptcy route. They were tanking. And if in fact
they pull off this trade which is supposed to go
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down tomorrow for Antonio Brown, they've upgraded that wide receiver.
They will upgrade their personnel, probably with their first pick.
Take Josh Allen, a kid out of Kentucky, was a
freak athlete who may not be Khalil Mack to start,
but has that type of talent and will cost a
fraction of the ninety million dollars guaranteed that Khalil mac
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was demanding before when he landed in Chicago. And then
if you can get Levyan Bell, you've upgraded at two
incredibly important positions, quarterback and wide receiver. Meanwhile, you still
maintain most of your draft picks. I think what they
are doing is a smarter process than what the Lakers
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have done, putting all of their eggs in the basket
of Lebron James, who wants his own guys and the
guys that his agent represents. And oh yeah, by the way,
is closer to being over the hill than he is
to being in his prime. I'm not even a Raider fan.
I called them the commitment to excrement. I've pointed out
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that Raider fans. Raider games are only uh popular on
Sundays because weekend furloughs for Raider fans, right Like, I
don't love Raider Nation per se, but I respect the
plan and now they're sticking to it and all the
bullets they took for trading a way their two best assets.
But they trade away their two best assets because the
NFL is not about two primary assets. Look at the
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Arizona Cardinals. They got Patrick Peterson, he's a stud. They
got Lara Fitzgerald, they got Christian Kirk, they got David Johnson.
Because you know, they don't have good football team, and
Gruden is in the process of making them a good
football team. Let's check up, catch up, with Steve di
Steger's see what he got, Hello, Doug, And you're not
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kidding about l A being so spread out and differing,
and like when you talked about the l A school district,
you know, we had the recent strikes with l A
and then the Oakland School District. Oakland that was like
three thousand teachers on strike. L A. It was thirty
thousand teachers on strike. That's all you need to know.
Two NBA games tonight, the late contest Oklahoma City at Portland.
The Thunder tied with Portland and Houston for the three
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to five spots in the West. And college basketball number
twelve ranks Houston Cougars in action tonight hosting s m U.
The Cougars tied for first in the American Conference with
Cinnati and ends the regular season at Cincinnati Sunday. Cincinnati
plays tonight at number twenty five Central Florida. Ste if
I just want to point out we had Mick Cronin
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Cincinnati head coach on the show yesterday. If anybody liked
to download listen to interview, go to iTunes. We'll go
to Fox Sports Radio dot com. You can download that interview. Uh,
some of it was about his team, a little bit
about Jarring Cumberland, but most of it was about mc
cronin growing up in Cincinnati and being a student who
tried to walk on and then became a high school coach.
The last time they went to a final flo And
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you know, Houston just lost last weekend UCF, so that
might be opening things up for Cincinnati as we wind
out on the regular season this weekend. L s U
coach Will Wade in the news today in a Yahoo report.
Wade apparently spoke of a big offer to a recruit
in a twenty seventeen phone call intercepted by the FBI.
He appears also to refer to the recruitment of Javonte Smart,
who's on l s US team this season, averaging eleven
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at the Arnold Palmer Invitational in Orlando, first round still
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He's Matt money Smith. He joins us on the Doug
gott Leap Show on Fox Sports Radio. And I wanted
to have you on because I wanted to bow down
to you. I wanted to say you're smart, I'm stupid. Uh,
what was the other you're you're you're good looking. I'm
very ugly. Um. And the the reason is about six
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months ago you and I were texting, or maybe it's
a phone conversation, and I was like, I'm in on
the Lakers, man, They're gonna be good. They're gonna make
the playoffs. It's gonna be great. And you're like, now,
those guys don't know what they're doing. They don't know
what they're doing at all. And you're right, I'm wrong.
Never have I wanted to be And this is so stupid, right,
but it's true. Like I didn't want to be right
about that, I really didn't. It just man, I just don't.
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It seems like every every chance they have to make
a misstep, they make a misstep, right, And it's everything
is compounded. And man, the last time I was upset
with Genie Bus was never until the fake news thing.
I mean that really chapped my ass. It really did.
Of all the things, of all the benefits that franchise
has and its existence, it's history, it's recruitment, top five
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picks one after another, a patient fan base, billion dollar
TV deal, and that's what you're gonna throw out like that.
I'm not kidding, Doug that might be the most sounding
like a parent and you're a parent. Many people listening
to her parents like the most disappointed I've been in
this franchise in a long time. Okay, So if you're
going to lay blame, where do you where do you start?
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Starting with the pen because they're all to blame, right, Like,
let's not just put it on Lebron, Like it's a
flawed roster. I think Genie's to blame for she hired
these guys, and by the way, she hired Luke, but
then there wasn't the support for Luke. Luke wasn't at
the meeting with Magic with Lebron James, which I think
is one of the first big flaws. The roster construction
is screwed up, but Lebron is also uh greatly to blame.
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And then injuries and bad luck ared to blame. Give
me a breakdown of who deserves the most blame and
then and then how it feeds down one I think
it's in and again it pains me. One. I think
it's Genie. Um, you know you want to hire Magic
because it had been a rough half decade and and
failures the kind of which this fan base enfranchise had
never seen. I get it. You win the press conference,
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people get excited. Nobody was feeling Mitch and Jim as
a front office team. So you win that great, But
do your due diligence asked around the league. Get a
GM who's a number two somewhere where they've proved their
worth and understand what it means to sit in that chair.
Um And instead she hired Rob Olinka, someone who I mean,
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you're in more NBA circles than I am. Have you
ever heard a good word about the guy from other people? No?
Like that I didn't understand. So that's misstep one too
again here, I'm I'm trying to couch all my negatives
right because everybody likes Luke. He's a great guy. But
if you're gonna sign Lebron James, Luke Walton is not
the right guy to coach him. I mean, you can
see that from day one. That's just that that did
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not line up much like David Blatt. When you hired him,
you thought he was gonna drag or not dragged, but
lipt you know, Kyrie up with a lot of these
young assets that you were going to draft Andrew Wiggins.
They knew were gonna let a young team grow with
this guy that had a great international reputation, and then
you drop Lebron on him, and you know, he's not
gonna listen to a word he says, so that Jennie
didn't recognize that that was not gonna work, and to
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to get out in the media and repeatedly say, Luke's
our coach, Luke's our coach. He's not going anywhere. I
think to some degree, you know, was one of the
sort of activators to getting Lebron to sort of be
upset and check out a little bit on the little
bit pardon the slip there on this whole group of
young players and a coach that he felt, like, you know,
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wasn't worthy to coach him. Can I can I just
can I just do Elephant in the room here? Though?
Elephant in the room is how did we get to
this place where we thought Jennie bus knew anything about basketball? Right,
like because she because Phil Jackson was her boyfriend. Like
I don't really look, I get the gym was a
flake and the gym wasn't doing a great job, but like, look,
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it wasn't like his dad knew anything about basketball. Like
his dad fired really good people and they did a
really good JOBU. Yeah. By the way, they had Maggie
Johnson and then they had pat Riley, like and they
didn't even really know what they had when they got
pat Riley. And he inherited pat Riley, right, So I
mean like we operated as like well, you know, Dr
Jerry Buss was one of the great owners. He was
the only thing great about Jerry Buss was he kept
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Magic happy by going out and partying with him and
hired Jerry West. Yes, and that's and that's it, and
that's all you have. And I guess that's why I
blame Jennie. She hired the wrong people, you know. But
you're right. And Jennie would be the first to admit that.
Anytime you bring her on, she would say, hey, look,
I don't do basketball ops. I do business ops. And
you know it. To her credit, she worked her way
up through the organization and multiple organizations and and community
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service and ticket sales and and all of those things
and at least put the time in that Jim was
not putting and he was hanging out of the race tracks.
But I think that's why a lot of people here
in l A appreciated her, Um that she did do
some work. Um, but you're right, and that's a it's
a fair counterpoint. Why why should we lay blame at
her when she's got no business making basketball decisions? Are
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hiring general man Jersey. But I don't know where else
to point. I can't point it Magic, because what's he's
supposed to do? Say no, I don't want the job.
Of course he's gonna take the job. Now, you can
speak to his work ethic and whether or not he's
really embraced and understood what it means to be a
president of basketball operations, which it seems as though he doesn't,
and when you talk to people that he's not around
all that much and isn't as invested as you need
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to be in order to compete with the other twenty
nine teams in front offices in this league. So I
guess that's our next step, right, That's where we're gonna
lay a lot of the blame with those two guys.
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Last night to me and look, I'm I'm a native
of Orange County. I don't claim l A because that
would be being a phony, and I try not to
be a phony. But I do know southern California. But
I also know what it's like to move back here.
And I spend my entire professional life on the East
Coast or or playing abroad. And so when I moved
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back here the first time, it's in two thousand twelve,
it took us like six to nine months to where
we finally figured out the pace and how everybody operates.
We lived here for two years, then I moved back
to the East Coast, and then you know, a year
and a half ago we were almost two years ago
we moved back here again. And it's been kind of
the same process. And even then, like you do yearn
for whether it's the Midwest or parts the East Coast,
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the fact that because there's not as much to do,
there's there's there's more of a community you can have,
you can wrap your arms around people, you can have
them over, you have more time, whereas you don't now.
And I felt like last night kind of embodied that
where he comes into a place and he thought he'd
be beloved and they're like, yeah, whatever, Like we didn't
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bring you here to beat Michael Jordan's scoring record. We're
broaty here for banners and for greatness and we haven't
seen it. And it felt like a very hollow accomplishment
last night. Am I wrong to read it that way?
It's a great observation and a great an allergy or
at least anecdote and kind of describing it for people. Um,
And you're right. And I think the great misconception about
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Los Angeles. And I'm not a native. I moved here
when I was seventeen, but I've been here for nearly
three years and I have lived all over. Um, And
I think that's the key for people listening that don't
quite understand what this city is. It's giant. I mean,
it is twenty million people where you really kind of
get that circle going and you're talking about a radius
and and how many people are included. So I've lived
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from the valley to the West Side. I now live
in Orange County. My wife is from deep Orange County,
so I kind of know, and I've lived in the
city itself, so they're all different. And I think what
people think, and Lebron is probably included in this, especially
because of why he moved here at least one of
the reasons why they think it's Hollywood. They think it's
stars and and people that moved here fall into this
(35:47):
trap and they all moved to the same place when
they're in our business, the South Bay, Manhattan Beach, or
the West Side, and they don't understand that that's not
what sports in l A is about. It's about the valley,
It's about East LA. I would say the most dedicated
Laker and Dodger fans are situated in the east part
of the city. East l A is a hot bed
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for for our fan base. I think it is the
bedrock of Los Angeles fans. And the stars come and
they start rolling around into studios and they make cameos,
and they assume that l A is Hollywood, and there's
nothing that angers l A fans more than that, because
that's not what it is. It's dedicated people that have
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had season tickets the Laker games for thirty years in
their family that have passed down three generations. And I
know because I had them for seven years. I had
Laker season tickets. The first thing I did when I
got a job out of college, I bought Section sec
Ro l uh three four seats from London Records. I
had them buy them for me as a signing bonus,
and and I used to go to every one of
those games, and I got to know the people around me,
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and those are the stories I heard. And people don't
realize it's not Jay z and Adam Sandler and Jack
Nicholson sitting courtside that place twenty people, and I think
they get insulted by Johnny Come Lately's who assume that
it's more about Diane Cannon and Jimmy Goldstein. And I
think that maybe what happened to Lebron. Now, look, if
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you're gonna win, and you're gonna pull a team up
from being out of the playoffs for five straight years,
and you're going to continue where they left off on
Christmas Day with the Golden State and finished with a
four seed, then guess what Osford given. But when that's
not what happened and you're out producing records with two
chains before taking a day off against the Warriors. When
you're you know, your accomplishment is celebrated in a moment.
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When a team is down fifteen and for all intents
and purposes, has now been eliminated from the postseason picture,
they're not gonna embrace you. And I think that's where
people don't understand. All these fans can be chappie, they
can be red asses, and they can get nasty. And
they got nasty with Frank mccoort with the Dodgers and
he had to sell the team. They got nasty with
Donald Sterling and the Clippers and stopped going to games
(37:58):
even though it was very exciting there that young team.
And I think you're seeing it with the Lakers a
little bit. This is kind of like their last straw, Like, hey,
we put up with it, and we bought into your
grow with the kids, Alonzo and Brandon and Kyle Kuzman.
We got all excited about that, and now this guy
was supposed to be the final piece and instead they're
all sad now because this guy unlike him and he's out,
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you know, passing Michael Jordan when he's down fifteen and
and it's just people aren't into it. It's weird. I
never thought it would happen, but it is weird. Listen,
you got you guys got a great show and this
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our game time next hour. It just that doesn't make
sense to try and jam it in here. I just look,
I thought that money put it perfectly like he's not
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a native Los Angelean and that is Los Angelino, um,
but but he gets it. Like, look, your image of
a place is not what a place is. And I'm
sure wherever you're listening to us, you know it is different, right,
Like like like people think people in the Midwest we
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just all kind of eat cheese, right, And like I
was in I was in Boise. I've told people, I
tweeted out that Boise is the best place you'll best
city you'll never visit. Boise is really cool, really cool.
It's got some tech industry to it. It's got obviously
Albertson's and a couple other major corporations based there. You
can ski, you can go hunting, you can fish where
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you can just like live a great life. But it
and it has kind of a little bit of a
new it's like a new age Portlands to it. Even
Portland's different than your image of it. Seattle is pretty
much what you think. It's all grunge, everybody walking around
and flannel, drinking coffee, smoking weed. That that's basically what's
in Portland's like a little Seattle. But I think people's
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image of l A is Hollywood. And you set up
shop here and the first thing you do is Hollywood. Hey.
That the upper the upper bowl of Staples, the upper
bowl of Staples where the real Laker fans are. And
much like the Roman Colosseum, if you can't win the Colosseum,
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you are destined to live in unha an unhappy existence.
And Lebron has not won the upper one, and not
one over the upper bowl of the of of Staples Center.
The lower bowl that's Date Night, that's Hollywood types, that's
people from everywhere just wanted to be seen. They're not
Laker fans. The fans live in the upper deck. John
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John Collins of the Hawks gonna join us? What do
(42:22):
you think Ryan? Five ten minutes? Maybe we don't know.
We were told he would be uh calling any time. Okay, Um,
do you guys mind if we do this? The Disiger
have time for game time now? Or is he? He's
a busy man as well. I see him furiously working
through his notes and so he's finishing a local update.
(42:43):
I think as well. Um, I'll just say this, I
may be the only one I did feel sympathy for
Lebron last night, getting this incredible accomplishment, Like there's gonna
be people who sit there go like you you're your
Lebron hater that that's the way it's become. Like if
you're not Lebron is the greatest of all time, then
you're a Lebron hater. Like if I said he's the second, third, fourth, fifth,
(43:06):
sixth best player, tenth best player of all time, whatever,
there will be people that say that you're a Lebron hater, Like, okay,
or maybe I've watched basketball for a long time, and
I know that I don't know how I'm supposed to
judge Lebron versus Kareem who scored more points than anybody
who's a six time m v P in a six
time champion, Like how do I Why have it become
(43:27):
a hater when I'm paying respect to a previous generation? Right,
And I understand there have been hundreds of thousands of
basketball players, thousands of NBA grades, And I said, I
all right, said the best of the second best. Maybe
he's the third or fourth and fifth best. But I
thought there's a there's a parallel to college basketball, which
is interesting to me. And here it is last weekend.
(43:53):
This week you have senior Night in college hoop. And
I remember my senior I actually lost on senior Night
to Oklahoma a third team point leading, gagged at home,
lost in the last game the old Gallagher IBA Arena.
It was an amazing night and I hold myself up
very much responsible. I was playing well. I hit a
(44:13):
couple of threes, which I wasn't known to do, and
I got taken out of the game as I think
my coach thought they were gonna start fouling. And I
was a notoriously a bad free throw shooter in college
and it kind of helped trigger their run and coming
down the court down three points. Instead of shooting a
wide open three at the top, just off the top
of the key, I chose to run a play. We
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ran to play for our best shooter. He got an
open look, but I was more wide open and I
had hit two threes, but I lacked a self confidence
to take what was the right shot. Uh, and I couldn't.
I didn't do a good job on Hollis Price was
a freshman kick my ask a little bit in the
second half. Like I'm personally responsible for it, not solely responsible.
But I remember senior night because I walked out with
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my then fiance now wife, and I felt connected to
the university. I've been there for three years. I've been
through tough times. I've been through great times. I had
met friends for life, and I'm an Oklahoma State guy.
And I think last night, when we saw Lebron past
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Michael Jordan's and the all time scoring list, instead of
being beloved, instead of them just being dignitaries out the door,
m j himself wasn't there. And there's this weird statement
from Michael Jordan, a weird statement back from Lebron James
where it's pretty clear they both both might be Nike guys,
but they are not boys. It reminding me of senior
Night we see in college basketball now with some of
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these guys are two time transfers or grad transfers, where
they've been at the school for like six seven months.
There's not a connection to the university, right. There's not
a connection between the Lakers and Lebron as of yet.
Maybe at the end of this contract there will be,
but it feels more like Lebron is Karl Malone now
a former Laker, Gary Payton a former Laker, then Pau
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Gasol who came to Lakers mid career. It's just a
weird night. Playoffs over not full roster, Alex Carusoe feeding
Lebron James weird night. I felt very disconnected from anything Lakers.
It felt like Lebron wearing a Lakers jersey. Let's catch
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up with one of my favorite young players in the NBA,
A guy who has rightfully earned a ton of respect
around the league. He's John Collins from the Atlanta Hawks.
He joins us on the Doug Gotlief Show on Fox
Sport Trader John, How are you good? How are you? Thanks?
Good Man? What's this year been like for you? Uh?
It's been good Man. It's been a you know, up
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and down the year, starting the year off with an injury,
but has been able to come back and uh resurrect
the season. I think pretty damn well. Yeah, you know.
It's it's interesting because there's with a lot of playoff
teams where there's some like Lebron on uh from Lebron
people saying well, they're not in the playoffs. I shut
it down. You didn't have any necessarily reason to come back,
right the second year in the league. You're proving yourself
(47:09):
as a double double guy. But there was never any
of the sense that you wouldn't come back and play
this year for Atlanta. What's that like? When so many
people are like, you don't actually have to come back
and play, and yet the inside of you you're like, yeah,
I'm always gonna play. What's that like, I mean, it's
it's just uh, I think it's just a professional team
for me. I mean, you know, coming into the league,
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you know, you have to prove yourself if you want
to be considered, you know, an elite guy, you know,
or one of the elague guys in this league. So
I feel like it's just a thing of being a professional,
you know, showing up to work every day and being
ready to play. All right, Trey Young, what's he like
to play with? Man? Trades? Exciting man? Uh? You know,
I think me and him have a great connection, have
great chemistry. Uh So, you know, especially just me and
(47:52):
him specifically, the one two dynamic that we have is
explosively and he's really creative, you know, using our connection
to get other guys open. So that guy that guys
you know, really crafty. Yeah, No, I mean there's just
some he's he's like an amazing player, but he's different
from i mean maybe anybody outside of Steph and maybe
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even more creative as a passer with staff in that
You never know when he's gonna shoot. As soon as
he crossed his mid court he might pullet and then
you don't ever actually know when he's gonna pass because
he has such an incredible vision. What's the How hard
is the adjustment? Like, no one's disputing that he's talented,
but it's got to be in a bit of an
adjustment to play that style of ball. Not really, um,
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I mean, I mean, I mean that you didn't even
really mention his uh, his his law don ability or
his his floater His floater game is you know, elite
to you know, it's his touch around the rims that
his ability to you know, float float flowing over bigger
guys um is really impressive. So I feel like it's
really been easy and I feel like he can, you know,
(48:57):
plug him in with a lot of guys and he
can play well with with just about anybody. Yeah, you
mentioned the float. How do you know when it's for
you and when it's the floor disease? Say something like
sometimes you might be like, oh that's for me. Wait
no, no no, no, that's not for me. What's that? What's
that Like? When you're rolling to the rim, you see
the ball up in the air and you have no
idea if it's for you for him. I mean, if
you're watching, sometimes you'll just see me jump because it's open,
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uh and the defense really can't do anything about it.
So it's just like it's about having a window uh
of his ability to throw it. Um. So sometimes I'll
jump and he'll throw it, or sometimes I'll jump in
the defense so you know, react as if Train's gonna
throw it. He'll shoot a nice floater um. So it's
it's sort of like a Catton mouse game. Trey has
(49:38):
to play, uh and I have to play with the defense,
all right, So you gotta tell me. I finished. I
graduated high school and played in an All Star game
with Vince Carter, and I almost went to Florida because
they thought they were getting Vince Carter. Vince Carter is
still playing and still playing well as a member of
the Atlanta Hawks. You went to high school in the
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state of Lord, Like, how crazy is it that you're
now teammates with Vince Carter. It's real crazy to think,
you know, we have sort of similar ties and and
stuff like that, being from Florida and stuff, and then
now me just watching him growing up as a kid.
You know, Vince Carter is an amazing got athlete. Uh,
probably the best dunker ever, I feel like in NBA history. Um,
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I mean is it is crazy to see him how
he's transformed his game from from that uh to someone
who's ability to stretch of Florence three ball and he's
he's helped helped me out a lot with that too. Yeah.
I mean, look, it's just I don't how does he
do it? What does he do to take care of
his body? Like, there's gotta be some secrets there that
you're gonna take away. I mean you he probably got
(50:44):
to ask VC his his true secrets. But I mean
we just see him in in the gym every day
getting treatment, you know, in the cold tubs, getting stretched out,
doing stuff like that. Uh. So I mean maybe there's
something else that he's doing it. You know, VC has
his secret his secret stuff that uh, nobody else knows about, man,
but that that dude just you can see just the transfer,
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like I said, the transformative nature of his game, um,
and what he's been able to do. Though how much,
how much how much grief did you get over the
Right Brothers dunk when you got back to to your
own locker room. Not too much grief. Um, honestly, I
feel like the guys are behind me, and I feel like,
you know, although uh, I didn't completely dunk, I felt like,
you know, the creative nature of the dunk and stuff
(51:30):
like that, the guys really appreciated. Uh. And they also
felt like, you know, the first dunk was you know,
judging correctly in my opinion, uh. And I felt like,
you know, if I if I had had a better
school on that one. And I think everybody was for
the guy forgot about the right Brothers dunk to begin
with us. Yeah, I mean, why why do you think
the first dunk wasn't as because I mean it was
(51:50):
It's crazy, right, you grabbed one side of the backboard
like right that that's it's weird. It's it's one of
those things that I don't know if it translates. But
you also, you had really good dunkers as judges. I'm
wondering why they didn't appreciate the athletics is the skilled
nature they've done. Yeah, see, that was my thing. Maybe
it was because I honestly don't know why. I can't
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tell you, but you know, from for for me, what
I can tell you is I was trying to grow
for something that you know, nobody's ever done before, which
was one you know, I don't think, I don't remember.
I haven't seen anyone, do you know, grabbed the side
of the backboard and dunk it and I felt like
maybe it was the timing or whatever the case may be,
but uh, you know it was judge you know, a
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forty and and it kind of knocked me out of
the competition to begin with. You know, I know other
we're gonna come out with some other stuff, you know,
and have better dunks. So that's what I mean. When
if I would have you know, got just you know
forty five or something, and I would have been pushed
to the second round, I feel like the right brother
dunk would have would have been taken as such a
you know, the dunk that it is. John Collins joining
(52:57):
us on the Dug out Lip Show on Fox Sports
Radio for your money. Who's the best team in the East, Um,
I think Milwaukee just because of the depth it's also there.
They're also very unique styles, right like you have you
have uh do you have first the Sixers who kind
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of like invert their offerings, right like their point guard
doesn't shoot, so and then they spread everything else around
and then occasionally they go work through Embiid. You have
the Bucks, who you know, they put their center Brook
Lopez outside shooting threes and so the lanes all opened
up for their point power forward to six ft nine, right.
Then you have the Celtics, who you know, there's Kyrie
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and then you know Horford can stretch the defense as well,
but they can they can beat you in one on one.
They can also create mismatches and pick and roll game
um Africa. And then you have Toronto, who's really good team,
and then they play through Kauai in big games, which
is different from every other team, Like they're all unique styles.
But you think Milwaukee is the toughest because of the depth,
because the depth of shooters are just over all depth.
(54:01):
I just think the overall depth of guys with playoffs
experience or guds with you know, just NBA experience, you know.
I think that comes into a factor. And I think
also coach Bud being with j honest those two um
obviously working very well together. I think Boston is definitely
gonna be another team um um, It's gonna be sort
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of a sleeper because most of those guys on that
team have playoff experience as well. John Collins joining us
in the Doug Outlan Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Gotta be amazing for you. You know, when you grow
up and you're big, everybody tells you get your butt
down at the block, right, go down. You want to
play big time basketball, you've gotta score at the block.
And now, because the way the game's changed, you're gonna
(54:41):
and you've continued to develop into being a three point shooter, right,
Like that's part when you're when you're awake, you took
one three point shot your entire career, I mean you
know one? Well yeah, you well gotta to to to
say it. For me at least, you know, growing up
as as a bigger kid, you know um or at
least you know, with the NBA, the way it used
(55:02):
to be, if you were a bigger guy, at least
a guy like six a six nine, and you had
that mid range shot, the mid range shot was you
know a lot more valuable, you know, so guys, or
for me at least, you were working on that mid
range shot and that was going to be, you know,
your money shot as the game involved into that progressed,
you know, now it's the three point shot. So you know,
you have a lot of guys who you know, were
(55:23):
most teams don't really like god taking those mid range
shots anymore, and it's now becoming all threes and mostly
greets or you know, shots at the basket. How long
does it take to get comfortable taking threes in again?
Like you're taking almost four a game now, Um, you
know not maybe not. You've taken three again, three a
game now and you're shooting a pretty good percentage. How
long does it take to be like, all right, now
(55:45):
I'm really really comfortable taking this this shot from this distance. Um.
I think it was, you know, just midway through the season.
I think you know, you saw when I came back
at the beginning of the year, my shot kind of show,
you know, coming out of the game with the injury.
But and I played more and as you know, I
got more comfortably saw my shot starting to fall, And
I think it was you know that you know a
(56:07):
couple of games where I see, you know, I go
two per two one one on one or two per
two and one on one, and that gives me sort
of confidence to know, you know, I'm not shooting too much,
but when I do shoot, I'm accurate, and you know
some games that I let it fly, and uh, you
know it rewards me and when and I pays off
when I'm a fishing and when I take smart shots.
You know, well, you guys were the first to kind
(56:28):
of expose the Lakers, right, Like the Lakers beat the
Celtics lost to the Sixers, Like, all right, those are
two playoff teams, and then they go down to your
place and you got you had twenty two and eight
and you guys stomp them. What did you see? Like,
did you know that there was did it feel like
there was a chemistry issue there? Or just feel like
they thought they were going to mail it in and
win the game. Um, I don't know what they were doing.
(56:51):
I think they came out. I think they actually played
us pretty well. I think if I do remember, it was, uh,
they praised pretty well and then and then all of
a sudd we just we blew them out of the water.
So I don't know what happened, but I feel like,
you know, that's something they got to deal with. But
I feel like they have enough guys around them that
they should be able to you know, play play better basketball.
(57:14):
But um, it's it's different, different situations. You know a
lot of guys in trade rumors and trade talked over there,
so I know it could be tough to play on
conditions like that. Well, listen, it's good to have you back.
You obviously played exceedingly well against the Spurs. We appreciate
your your cannon and breaking down other teams and can't
wait to catch up with you. Maybe help us throughout
(57:34):
the playoffs. You get a little time off afterwards, and
and uh, and you'll break down some games for us.
Thanks for joining us, I'm problem. Thank you for having
me on all right, John Collins of the Atlanta Hawks
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to get to. Let's do so in game time. This
is game time Tide on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Even
a second, what you got, my friend, Good afternoon to you,
and enjoyed the interview, by the way, and the Vince
(01:00:01):
Carter reference half man, half amazing. They're just to put
it in perspective. You know, you were talking about your
college hoops days. Vince Carter won that dunk contest spectacularly
in two thousand. A month later, you were in March Madness,
and Vince Carter is still in the NBA. That's amazing.
John guess who. I'll give you the item and you,
Doug guess who. We're talking about Item one from Pro
(01:00:24):
Football Talk. Guess who? In the NFL uses their sports
science department for everything now, from signing free agents to
evaluating players at the combine their coach as they want
a title. In recent years used analytics with in game
decision making, like going forward on fourth down so much.
I'm gonna go with the Dealingland Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles, and
(01:00:47):
Eagles GM Howie Roseman said, before signing a free agent
or drafting a player, they're asking the sports science department
to examine everything they can about the players athletic potential
and likelihood of staying healthy. Look, I other teams have
analytics departments. I mean, I know that the Chargers drafted
Melvin Gordon because the analytics department said, this guy is
(01:01:07):
going to be an outstanding back. It doesn't always work
out as such. I I just I think there's a
balance of it. I think there's a real football acumen
to it, and then there's a uh, there's a side
there that analytics is absolutely needed. As long as you
balance the two, you can't go all in on football
acumen and not value at analytics. But I think the
overvaluation of analysts can be problematic as well well. But also,
(01:01:30):
don't we see other sports dinosaurs like Mike's Oshean and
Byron Scott are not employed. They were not you using
this new avenue. It doesn't mean it has to be
everything to you, Like you said, it's one thing to
use though. Item too from Yahoo Today, guess who in
college basketball was reportedly caught on wire tap talking about
a strong offer they gave to a recruit. I mean,
(01:01:51):
will wait, and we're talking about the l s U
had basketball coach, and we're talking about a phone conversation
from seen intercepted by the FB between the Tigers coach
and a basketball middleman that features Wade speaking freely about
the strong offer made in the recruitment of a prospect.
Of course, there's been a trial and second trial related
(01:02:11):
to college recruiting in New York. Yeah, I mean, like, look,
there's no dollar amount in in the recording, but I
mean an idiot can kind of point to like, okay,
strong offer, what does what does that have to do
with anything? Um, So it's not just a scholarship in
other words, no, it appears to not be but stronger
than other offers, right, but they're also that also does
(01:02:34):
not mean absolutely positively that there's like there's no cash
dollar thing and there's you know. And also in fairness
to Will Wade, let's allow him, he'll be allowed to
defend himself because he will be you know, cross examined
as and we we crucified Sean Miller for a recording
that no one's actually heard and no one's published. It
(01:02:55):
was supposedly on tape that he offered a hundred thousand
hours for DeAndre. But it should also be pointing out that, um,
while it's against the n c A rules to offer
money for a player, the reality is that sometimes offers
are made. When when I was going and this still
is the case today, a lot of times people say
(01:03:17):
we'll take care of take care of you, and there's
the assumption made that that means money, but no money
actually ever changes hands. So let's allow do process take place.
But it does not look good for will wait Our
editors found in comments as Will Wade was asked about,
I don't have any comment on that. It doesn't look
how apachard I have to read it and look at it,
(01:03:39):
and then from there all we'll move forward as we
need to final item to the NFL. Guess who's returning
to pro football this year because he didn't want to
finish his career on such a poor season. His team
was three and thirteen and a horrendous offense. Larry Fitzgerald,
a future Hall of Famer, on the A. Kimes podcast
(01:04:01):
released this week, said, we had a really bad season
last year. I just didn't want to go out on
that level. You've got to live the rest of your
life knowing you went out on that level. Well, let's see.
I mean, that's gonna be a big challenge for them.
But if there's a guy who can inflate your statistics
as a wide receiver, especially as a slot wide receiver,
which with Larificial has become more than Cliff Kingsbury, I
(01:04:22):
haven't seen him on Earth, we'll see. I'm not convinced
they're putting together a better team, but let's see how
it plays out. They need a better offensive line, need
better overall defensive talent, because they have some talent and pieces,
but they were awful last year and that is a
very difficult division. Is game time on the Duck Gotli show,
(01:04:44):
Sports Science, Sports Science. Let's get you back to Steve
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What else you got going on currently in sports? Steve
Well The sad item I released through the Hall of
Fame of Baseball the picture Tom Severs family announcing that
he has been diagnosed with dementia and will continue to
work in his vineyard in his Northern California home, but
(01:05:05):
has quote chosen to completely retire from public life. A
former teammate of his, Art Shamsky, just came out with
a book about the nineteen sixty nine Miracle Mets where
he talked about the health issues of other teammates, including
about Tom Sieber battling a serious health issue. Shansky wrote
that severer suffers from short term memory loss that could
(01:05:25):
stem from line disease, which he contracted when he lived
in Connecticut two NBA games to disease. Really and you
moved you lived there once or lived there twice? We
live there twice. We lived from Connecticut for twelve of
the last seventeen years. But she's shown nothing since. No,
(01:05:49):
I guess I don't know. I mean treated for it.
I supposedly lime disease, like it kind of never leaves you. Whatever.
She's only twelve, she was very little the time. She
was probably three at the time or time you get
like there's like a bullseye rash where the tick bits
you and then you get you know, you get a
fever and yeah, I mean, but it can be. It
can have lasting effects, no question, Tom Siever, that we're
(01:06:11):
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Chris Mannix. He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. Mannix,
(01:07:39):
what do you think last night? As Uh, a native
Bostonian watching Lebron past Jordan's in the all time scoring
list playing with the Lakers. It wasn't so much that
he was playing with the Lakers, it was just kind
of who he was playing with out there, Like in
you you're kind of expecting that moment, you know, a
(01:08:00):
great player having a great milestone to be congratulated by
other great players. Um, I think it was the ringer
to put some video out there of like, you know,
a fake exchange between Lebron and who's done Alex Caruso. Yeah,
it's like him, Hi, I'm Alex. Yeah, Like it was
just great, Like it's just it just sort of speaks
(01:08:22):
to you know, a seminal achievements, individual achievement in the
player's career, like Lebron and you know he's slapping five
with JaVale McGee and Alex Caruso and you know Rondo,
we didn't want to be there, like it. It was
kind of it was a bit depressing if you kind
of look at it in the back. Yeah, the Rondo thing, Now, look,
I'll defend Rondo sitting with the fans because he actually
(01:08:43):
has done that before. He actually that's you know, like
in in Indie when we have had the visuo of
Lebron and three chairs between him and the rest of
the team. The reason that happened was they didn't dress
all their guys and the and Rondo, who's in City's
then was sitting because fans hadn't taken up the chairs
next to the coaches, he said, So he has done
that before, but there was something to the optics of
(01:09:05):
that kind of dysfunctional bunge. I'm wondering what what go ahead? No,
I mean, I'm with you on Rondo to a degree. Um,
But you know, one thing I've known about Rajon Rondo
is that he might be the smartest player I've ever covered.
And that includes you know, guys like Kobe and Lebron
and others. Rondo's just on different level intellectually, and he's
(01:09:26):
he has one of the highest basketball I used with
anybody I know. He's got to know, like national TV, Uh,
this is gonna be a story. Like he's got to
know this is gonna be a thing. And why he
would he would he would do something like that? You know,
perplexus space one thing to do with Doug Againt Indiana
in the middle of the season. If another on National
TV in a game in a moment he knows everybody's
(01:09:47):
be watching, fair point. Chris mannocks join in Sports Illustrated
Doug Gotli show Fox Sports Radio. So look, I think
everyone knows that Luke's gone. Um, everyone believes they're going
to pursue Anthony Davis, But I just I don't know
how you fix it right, Like, it's really hard to
it's hard to hide Lebron defensively some and uh, they're
(01:10:08):
they're gonna have to create almost an entirely new roster.
And that's not as easy to do as people think.
Because the sense I get from talking to people in
the NBA is, Hey, a lot of guys don't want
to go there if they're not a clutch sports guy.
They feel like clutched sports is running the organization, whether
it's real or just imagined. How do they fix this
thing in this offseason? I think the first thing they
have to do, and this officuely goes beyond you know,
(01:10:29):
go get Anthony Davis, and I think we know that's
priority number one for that team. They've got to dump
this this inname strategy that they have the start of
the season of surrounding Lebron with like playmakers, go back
to what makes Lebron James led teams successful shooting, Find
the best shooters out there, regardless of position, and surround
(01:10:50):
Lebron with him. I don't know if that's a cure.
All dug in fact, I'm sure it's not. But this
you know, whole Schmortess board of players that have kind
of put around him, from Brondo a Lance Stevenson to
Javail guys that can't shoot the ball from the outside.
It just doesn't work. And that was the first thing
that that the first mistake that the Lakers made, which
everybody but the Lakers it seemed like who knew basketball
(01:11:12):
do It was going to be a mistake. So if
they're gonna go out there and once again try to
get a bunch of guys on short term contracts, which
I would imagine that they're going to do if they
whiff and all these big time free agents, um, they've
got to make sure every one of those guys is
like a thirty eight percent shooter or a better Yeah,
I mean I think there's a there's a bunch of messing.
The problem is, then then are you gonna fire the
(01:11:34):
general manager who put together the roster? You gotta fire
Magic Johnson, you know, I just man, it's a it's
a bit of mess. Let's get to the Celtics. They
win last night hotly contested game against Secrament of Kings,
and it's Gordon Hayward who comes up big as Kyrie
Irving doesn't play. Is Gordon Hayward back? Is this just
a two game spike? Because the Warriors called him out
and said that he's a liability. What do you make
(01:11:56):
of Gordon Hayward playing well his first two games in
the West Coast? Well, it's not just a two game spike,
that's the thing. And then if you look at the
six seven games he had prior to the All Star Break,
he was well above from the floor and he was
above from three. Then he had the All Star Break
and he had that ankle injury working out with shemy
odin Lane. We sent him back. I mean, he had
to miss the first game off the break, and I
(01:12:18):
think he was still trying to work his way back
at the full health in those games right after that.
This this player we've seen in the last two games, Doug,
it looks a lot like the Gordon Hayward I saw
in you know, the first two weeks of the month
of February. Now we all have to kind of steal
ourselves to the idea that this is Gordon Hayward two
point oh. Like I think one point oh is going
(01:12:39):
to come back. I think he's young enough and healthy
enough that he can get back to being that same
explosive player we saw in Utah. But that's not gonna
happen this year. It's just he needs a full off
season of training, dust basketball stuff to get that back.
But virgin two point oh can be a forty ish
percent three point shooter, can be their primary playmaker on
(01:13:00):
some units. I mean, Kyrie Irving was out last night,
it was Gordon Hayward playing backup point guard when terror
or there was off the floor. Sometimes you're playing point
guard when Terry was on the floor. So this verse
of Gordon, it's not the All Star version. But if
he keeps up the pace that he's had for most
of the last month, I think he can be a
big factor in the playoffs. I kind of I tend
(01:13:20):
to agree with you. Um, what about their chemistry? What's
the current state of the Boston Celtics. I mean, I
can tell you the current state, but that state might
be different, like on Tuesday, like that, This team, the
way an ebs and flows, you know, chemistry wise, is
really hard to It makes it really hard to get
a read on them. Now, something happened on that plane,
(01:13:42):
right to the West Coast. I haven't quite figured out
exactly what you know Kyrie Irving. For all the trough
complaints about the media and how much and and the
questions he gets, he has a tendency just to drop
bombs up being asked questions. He did it with the
Lebron stuff. Nobody asked HI about Lebron calling him ended
again the other night when he said we had uh
thought there was a there was a serious some serious
stuff happened on that plane. So whatever happened there, maybe
(01:14:05):
that took hold. But the fact is that when this team,
you know, plays like a past happy type of team,
when they get above thirty as six, which they did
in that Golden State game, and they came close to
against Sacramento, they're really good. Like none of these like
performances should be considered aberrations. Like if Jason Katum going
for twenty four, that's what he's capable of doing. You know,
(01:14:26):
Dylan Brown gets beat up a lot, but the guy
averaged eight teen points on nearly three in the playoffs,
better than scent from the floor in the playoffs. He's
capable of doing all this. So I think this team,
if they can just get their heads on straight for
an extended stretch. In that extended stretches the playoffs, they
can still be as tough as out as anybody needs.
(01:14:48):
Tend to agree with you, Doug Gotlin Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, I want to go back to
Lebron for a second. Did you see the the Lebron's
statement about Jordan and Jordan's statement about Lebron. It's always
been a kind of a weird, quixotic relationship between those two,
hasn't it. Like, I mean, Jordan was quite quite terse. Yeah,
(01:15:11):
it was just like hey, congrats and then his and
then Lebron's was was was really weird because he admitted
that our relationships dot what, you know, not what maybe
I dreamt of, but he was a great player. What what?
What is the what is the beef over? Why is there? No?
They're both nikee guys. You know he used to wear
twenty three um or now he wears still to wears
(01:15:33):
twenty three? Like what why? I don't understand what what's
the beef over? I don't know that there's a beef there?
And I read some other quotes too from Lebron where
he kind of talked about how he you know, what
it was like to worship Jordan's, you know, growing up.
I mean, maybe Lebron had in his mind that, you know,
when he got to that that superstar level, you know,
otherworldly level, that Jordan would consider him a peer, and
(01:15:53):
maybe Jordan's doesn't care. I mean, I don't know too
many guys that Jordan's is all that chummy with Knew.
I mean, is he you know, super tummy with Larry
Bird and you know, Clyde Drexler. I'm just naming names
that were on his level during his playing days, but
he's not the you don't see him socializing with a
lot of these his peers from that time. So maybe
(01:16:14):
that when Lebron got to that that that his place
in the game and thought he would be on Jordan's level.
George has never really acknowledged him. I mean, I'm just
sort of speculating on that one because there's never been
any any real indication of of of something happening to
cause a rift. Last thing I've told people all along,
I didn't think that DeMarcus Cousins made the Warriors better.
(01:16:34):
They go and pick up Andrew Bogett, who great pastor
great teammate, great illegal screener um and and as as
played end one with the Warriors before. I understand it
costs them relatively nothing, But is this the Warriors admitting
that they're struggling to find a fit a way to
work with DeMarcus Cousins. Well, I would say this that
(01:16:55):
even before Cousins came back, you know, they were hot
on the trailer Robin Lopez. I mean they were hoping
that Lopez is gonna get bought out from the Bulls.
So I think they've been after I know they've been
after a backup big for a long time. Buku makes
sense for all these reasons history with that team, and
he's probably better safe than Cousins. You're playing in that
uh in that Australian league for for the last four
(01:17:16):
or five months or so. I'm with you. You know,
when Cousins signed, I didn't think it was a bad idea.
I just thought I couldn't hurt. Now I'm starting to
wonder if you can't hurt. Because I watched the first
give you watched the first like three minutes of that
Boston game. You watch a lot of the Rockets games,
you know, and wherever Cousins is in the floor, big
go at him. They put him in pick and roll,
they run everything in the world to get him in motion,
(01:17:37):
get him on the switch, and look. I know DeMarcus
wants to play meaningful minutes in these games. You know,
he doesn't watch ride his way or coach his way
to a championship. But he can't be out there. He
just can't. I mean, I think we've even now is
just sit here and talk dug in in early March.
I don't think de Marcus is gonna get more mobile
to make him more of a factor in the fullth
(01:17:57):
core of these games. So unless he's got it really
going off to believe and it's a good match for
him on the other end of the floor, you can
play him in the second quarter and the third quarter
and you know whatever is in the middle of part
of the game. But you get to the fourth quarter,
he just can't be out there because he has a
full guye on his back. I like how his teammates
that defended him, Draymond Green to some of the effect
of you know, we all suck at defense right now,
(01:18:18):
but you watch these games and right off the right
from jump, they go straight at the Marcus Cousins and
that's not going to change come playoffs. Great stuff Chris
mannis to check him out on Twitter, Clarse He's got
all his great work and Sports Illustrated Manics. Thanks so
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you to Steve to Seger. Breaking news from Fox Sports, Yeah, who'se.
(01:19:23):
NBA reporter Chris Haynes says the Lakers will put Lebron
James on a minute's restriction the rest of the season,
likely won't let him play in back to back nights.
As Haynes put it, it won't be necessarily a set down.
Lebron will be kind of a cool down. You remember
they had played him up until last Night's lost a
ton of minutes the previous two weeks, averaging about forty
minutes and facts the previous two weeks. And yet they've
(01:19:45):
lost four in a row. They've lost six of their
last seven. Lakers quite obviously are not going to the playoffs, Doug.
They have a thirty and thirty five record right now. Yeah, look,
it's a challenging thing. And my pushback was, is not
now and how much you play the Bron James. My
pushback was you go back a week a week and
a half ago, when people first started talking about shutting
(01:20:06):
Lebron down for the year. I was like, look, you
just can't. You just can't because tickets are sold the league.
You know, like imagine if you imagine if you you
bought tickets, like, man, I can't wait to see Lebron
James at the end of the season, playoff push, like
last game of the year. You might have thought he
was gonna sit out, but you know, a game with
(01:20:31):
fifteen to go, you have he's gonna sit out. So
not playing one back to backs, I think that's reasonable.
What what a does that? Like? He's gonna play obviously
against the Celtics. We can almost see what these games
are like they play the Raptors and then they play
the Pistons the next night. He won't play in Detroit.
Then they played the Knicks. He'll play in New York.
Does he play in Milwaukee? I don't know. They play
(01:20:53):
the Nets and the Kings and Wizards at home day
off in between all those, but they don't play the
Jazz the next night, and then they played the Hornets
and then the Pelicans on the road. Probably doesn't play
that last. Imagine if you're a you're in New Orleans,
you're like, man, last game of the year, Anthony Davis
and Lebron James. I can't wait. And then no Lebron
(01:21:16):
James and no Anthony Davis likely in that game, Um,
they play the Clippers in the second of back to
back nights, and it's the Clippers home game. He won't
play in that one. But gonna be fascinating to see
which of these games that he he sits out, although
some of them appear to be pretty obvious. Right, plays
in New York, plays against the Celtics, plays in the
big nashally televised games. Does he play in the on
(01:21:38):
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(01:21:58):
of problems, there's no out, but it doesn't always cure
unhappy the human condition. Now, I hope Kyrie is not miserable,
all right, but if if he and if he's not,
I'm assuming he's not. He needs to look at what
Chuck said, don't say is this what I'm projecting though,
(01:22:20):
you know, and and change it my demeanor, change the
way I'm acting, because like if he's miserable, because you
need to say and listen to it before you just
totally disregard it. Listen to it. Why would someone who's
covering this game sit is that what they see? I
think it's a great point, you know, listen. I know
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that there is real human like depression is a huge thing,
but there's a different thing depression and just being unhappy
with things at work. Most people are unhappy with things
at work. And I hate to be the guy that
tells you this, but part of the deal when you're
an entertainer is at least projecting that you're happy to
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be there, that you're happy to be there, projecting that
you're happy to be there. That's why all these musicians
like we love you Cleveland. They don't love you Cleveland.
They don't even know you. I'll get I'll get more
in depth on that. Plus, I woke up today and
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night was kind of an amazing night, an amazing, I think,
revealing night in the current state of Lebron James. Lebron
James passed Michael Jordan's all time on the all time
scoring list, past Michael Jordan's and the moment itself, um
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from Bill Platsky, for example, was the most underwhelming piece
of history I've witnessed at Staples Center, by both the ceremony,
the fans, and relatively understated he was treated like a
visiting player. That's Platsky, who has covered l A Sports
for twenty five I've years, and I want you to
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think about this for a second. Um, I think all
of us do this in our marriage or relationships. Even
more so, do it work? Like what do you hear
about people at work? How's your job? You know? Look
if they just showed me a little bit more respect
now most people equate how you're compensated to respect. But
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also like every once in a while, you know, I
don't love awards, dinners. I don't love they don't need
anybody to give me an award and tell me att
a boy. But I do think a lot of people
do need that. They need a little positive reinforcement. They
need a banquet once a year, in a night where
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people get together and somebody grabs a microphone in front
of everybody else and says, hey, this guy is awesome.
You know me personally, Just keep me gamefully employed and
let me make a little bit more money next time
around than I made last time around. Right, But when
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you accomplish something that's inarguably in impressive, especially when it's
not really what you do, Like Lebron is an amazing player,
amazing and he's not really a true score, Like that's
what's incredible about it. He's not really a score, that's
not actually what he does. And yet here he is
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fourth all time on the scoring list. And you can
pass you know, Kareem or Karl Malone or any of
these other guys, and it's impressive. But to pass your idol, well,
that's different. That that's completely different. And I think that
(01:26:58):
the underwhelming nature of that celebration. I was really telling
about how Laker fans feel about him, how Laker teammates
feel about him, and he must feel completely alone. After
the game. After the game, here's Lebron James talking about
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the feeling of passing Michael Jordan on the all time
scoring list. I went at to Chicago and he used
to play summer basketball and I went up there, and
you can probably go to one of my old interviews
and I was, you know, much younger, and I said,
it was like it was like meeting Jesus. You know,
that was my depiction of what Jesus will be like,
you know, when I met m J. Because I just
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never thought I would be able to meet him. I
never thought it I would see him. You know, you
always seen him on TV or sports illustrat or sports
illustrator for kids, or basketball cards if you were lucky,
if you were lucky to get a pack with MJ.
And it he was clicking something in his hand. That's
the clicking noise you're in the back round. He actually,
he actually apologized for it because he said, you guys
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don't even understand how much this means to you, how
much this means to me. Jordan himself, y, Jordan himself
even even kind of Papo died, right, Yeah, congratulations on
another historic moment. So the idea when you when you've
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chased a ghost your entire life and you finally catch
him and pass him, and no one around you makes
a big deal about it, and you're freaking out and
making a big deal about it. I can't imagine that
drive home. It's not how I thought it would be
with the Lakers. I thought I would show up and
we'd win, and I'd passed Jordan's and everybody go crazy,
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and you can say what you want that his egos
should be so secure. He's won multiple titles. He even
talked in the shop that he believes he's the atist
of all time because he brought to Cleveland Cavaliers back
from three games to one. But man, I felt bad
for him last night. He accomplished something amazing, and it
was like, you're down, You're not gonna make the playoffs,
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You're not really a Laker. Hey. It felt like Joaquin
Phoenix's character in the Gladiator when he returns home to
Rome as the Emperor and he gets back to his
quarters and he's all alone, and he didn't receive the
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love and the attention. Remember that, that's why they end
up having the gladiatorial games, right because he wanted to
feel the love of the Colosseum. He wanted them to
love him. You can't make people love you. Lebron James
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is feeling the cold shoulder of l a. It's just
a strange and eclectic city, one that people have a
completely different image of than the reality of what it's
like to live in, completely different. You know, he thought
the second he sticks his flags in the ground that
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it's gonna be TV shows and music videos and and
Jack Nicholas and Jack Nicholson, excuse me, n Jack Nicholas
would be cool too, Jack Nicholson and all the different
Hollywood types. And then you know, you go to dinner
this place and drinks that place, and they'd win, and
he and Magic would laugh and have cigars and win
another within another world titles. But a little harder. Transition
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is hard change, obviously everybody thinks they need. But he's
bounced from team to team to team, and he doesn't
feel like he's a laker and the Lakers did not
make him feel like this was a great accomplishment. That
was a lonely night to be the king. That was
a lonely night to be the king. And you know what,
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maybe the most interesting part is how does the rest
of his career turn out? Right? Like we we we
make fun of fat Elvis, and we don't talk about
fat Elvis that much in terms of Elvi. What fat
Elvis was. At the end of Elvis Presley's career, he
was performing mostly in Vegas and sometimes in Hawaii, and
he was gross. He was wearing the same jumpsuits, but
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it was not it was not a good look. But
Elvis Presley is still, you know, one of the greatest
and not the greatest performers of all time. Michael Jackson,
like obviously the the most recent documentary makes you think
twice about your fandom of Michael Jackson. But when you
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think of Michael Jackson the performer, you think of the
unbelievable music videos and the prime of his career, you
you don't for you don't remember at the end when
it was when there was so much plastic surgery, his
hair was so long, he was so thin. It was
really creepy Joe Montana. We know that he won a
playoff game with the Kan City Chiefs, but he was
(01:32:12):
a shell of his former self. Joe Namath wasn't Joe
Namath san Diego Charger at the end of his career.
I thought name it was a he was a charger.
It was your ram Uniteds was a charger. That's right.
Nameth was a ram O. J Simpson was a San
Francisco forty niner like even Michael Jordan's then look Colin
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went on this ran about Michael Jordan forty years old,
dropped forward in the Rose Garden. But it was still
a little bit uncomfortable, like a guy coming out of
retirement who shouldn't have Muhammad Ali. He fought way too long.
It was like five fights at the end that you'd
like to you'd really like to forget of Muhammad Ali.
He just took an absolute beating. Larry Holmes gave him
a beating that that was uncomfortable to watch. Mike Tyson's
(01:32:58):
last couple of fights were totally uncomfortable to watch. So
this is how most stars and their careers. There's a difference,
though there's a difference. Even Peyton Manning, who lost the
starting job got it back but really wasn't good and
wanted to the difference is he's playing for the Lakers,
and though he can tell us I'm not chasing anything
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that we can tell us, you know that's not what
he's about. You're in the NBA, you're in the spotlight.
You're playing for a team where the only success that
matters for the Lakers is do they get another banner.
That's it. That's the only success and to not get
them even close would be an unmitigated disaster, and I
do think it would stay in his career. I didn't
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say it's fair. Okay, it's not fair because all of
these guys, cream Abdul Jabbar did not age gracefully. He
was playing over forty years old. He couldn't run up
and down the court. It wasn't great. It just wasn't.
You go through the list of of of all time
grades and almost all of them you're like unless they
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had to retire, really like Larry Bird because of his
back and his heels. Do you guys remember Dan Marino's
last game? Anybody music? You want to you wanna take
a shot? No clue? Uh? Dan Marino's last playoff game, Um,
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they were beaten. They were beating in thirty eight years. Well,
he looky at thirty eight. They were five and six
before he got hurt and he lost his job. But
his last playoff game, I believe was the year before
and uh didn't they get blown out by jack was
trying to think what his last year was. I remember
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his last game being a blowout? Yeah it was. It
was Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, they got beat This is right,
his last year, they got beat sixty two to seven.
That was his last game. And now damn ever he
Saibody said, well, damn Reno. The greatest player to ever
not win a Super Bowl. Charles Barkley, do you guys
remember how his career came to an end? Was it
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the Rockets? Yeah, he was with the Rockets. And when
Charles Barkley was at the Rockets, they went and tried
to make a super team that were all past their prime.
And he, uh, he had the exact same injury as
um who had. Tony Parker had where he like dislocated
(01:35:31):
his knee cap and it was basically blowing out his uh,
his a muscle in his thigh. But that team had Barkley,
had Clyde Drexler had a chemalize you on like all
on the same team, and it was an unmitigated disaster.
It was because Barkley got hurt. Like nobody even remembers
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the fact they tried to form a super team in
Houston to finally get Charles Barkley kar malone. That didn't
end well with the Lakers. Gary Payton I think did
win one technically with the Heat with Lebron, but he
was a shell of his former self. This is actually
really really normal for star players to look old and
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a shell of their former selves as they try and
hang on for one or two last paychecks. The difference
is he's supposed to be different. He's Lebron, he's in
l A. He's supposed to be the savior. And it's
not just l A, it's the Lakers. If it was
with the Clippers, that would actually be much more normal
for a star go to a play with like the Clippers.
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Give him a little bit of hope, you know, go
out and wave your waive your cap and pretend like
you know you're what you used to be, even though
you're not all right. Low Lebron today, but there's some
NFL news out there. Former NFL GM Michael Lombardi joins
the show. Will ask him about Antonio Brown to the Raiders,
will ask him about Josh Rosen to the Redskins, and
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ask him about the Kyler Murray stuff that Charlie castually
shared with us and is shared with the world. What's
he hearing about Kyler Murray's work, ethic, leadership abilities and
how he interviewed at the Combine? Find out next. Be
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longtime gentle manager, front office member in the Nation Football League.
Course got his own podcast and the Ringer, and he's
got his own book about building dynasties, building championships. First,
we got breaking news in the Nation Football League. Here
Steve de Seger. Breaking news from Fox Sports from NFL Network,
The Redskins and Broncos are working on a trade for
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quarterback Case Keenum to go to d C. Still issues
to work out, but both sides are quote motivated to
make it happen. Ian Rappaport says Keenum was the Redskins
top QB target based on price and experience, and he
would have to battle Ky for the job when this
gets in. Case Keenum with Denver this past year with
six and ten after going eleven and three the year
before for the Vikings. Great stuff, Steve, I really appreciate it.
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I had told you guys yesterday. Look, Redskins have to
have a quarterback. Alex Smith won't play this year, likely
won't play football ever again, and I had thought it
would be Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen would be the guy
again because of intract although he doesn't have the experience
of a case Keenum. Let's bring in Michael Lombardi, former
general manager in the Nation Football League. He's got a
great book out there you should pick up called Gridiron Genius,
(01:39:08):
A master class and winning championships and building dynasties in
the NFL. It's on sale now. Michael case Keenum. Obviously
Denver wanted to rid themselves of that case Keenum contract.
Does he make more sense than Rosen for the Redskins?
You know, Look, I think the one rule and in
free agency that you have to live by is you
can't sign a player or you can't sign a player
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and still need a player at that position. I mean,
and this is classically what the Redskins are doing. I
mean case Keenum is a backup quarterback. Colpe McCoy's a
backup quarterback. I mean, now they have two backup quarterbacks
on their roster. I don't see really how this makes
them a better team. Yeah, I would have thought the
Rosen thing would would would make more sense. What are
(01:39:51):
you hearing in regards to Rosen and whether or not
Arizona wants to move off of him. I think, you know,
I wrote about this for The Athletic Doug and I
think this is just getting way out of control. There's
been some horrendous reporting done that Cliff Kingsbury's telling people
at the combine. First of all, Cliff Kingsbury's not telling
anybody anything about what they're gonna do. Kiff, Cliff Kingsbury
was hired to save roads and not trade Rosen. That's
(01:40:14):
why I got the job. That's why he went from
the USC offensive courted and the head coach of the
Arizona Cardinals because he can work with quarterbacks. Steve Kim
has been running the draft for the last five years
in Arizona. He picked Rosen. He traded a three and
a five for Rosen to move up in the draft.
Do they know what Rosen is yet? No? Did you
throw eleven touchdowns? Yes? Do you throw fourteen interceptions? Yes?
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Did the average of their seven yards per pas attempted? Yes?
Did he look bad last year? Yes? But so did
the old all the entire Arizona Cardinal team. I mean,
I'm not sure you can judge Rosen or know exactly
what Rosen is at this point. I think you have
to be careful and temper that. I just think, to me,
we're letting these rumors run away as reality and they're
not even close to be in reality. I mean, Cliff
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Kingsbury is saying anything to anybody at the combines a
complete joke. Alright, So what about the the feedback from
Charlie Cassually at the Combine that a couple of couple
of different teams said that he wasn't prepared, he wasn't
great at the white board, and that his leadership skills
were called into question. What have you heard in regards
to Kyler Murray, not not on field talent, but all
(01:41:18):
the other things that make up a quarterback. I haven't
heard that, you know now, And you know what Charlie said.
He obviously talked to teams and he got it. Charlie's
not gonna just make things up. But I think you
have to do your own due diligence, and I think
you have to dig deeper. Obviously, Lincoln Riley came out
today or yesterday and disputed the report. And when you
watch the tape of of Kyler Murray play, you don't
(01:41:38):
get the sense he doesn't know what he's doing. You
don't get the sense that he doesn't understand the game plan.
They don't seem to have communication issues, they get the
wrong play in at the wrong time. I think they're
pretty well coached. I think he knows what he's doing.
I think I would need to explore this a lot
more to find out about his work habits. I just
know this. A guy who can play two sports and
get drafted probably in the first round in both sports
(01:41:59):
must work pretty hard. Yeah. My my guess is on
that feedback is there were a couple of teams that
sent him, you know, send him something to look at,
and he probably didn't look at him right. He probably
blew him off and and just try to wing it.
And that's where the lack of preparadness people bring up.
Is that is that fair, right, because that's that's kind
of what Baker did last year with the Chargers. That's
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what it came out of saying like he and I
know it was for a different interview, but is that
is that a fair way for them to figure out
in fifteen minutes that he wasn't prepared? You know, I
think it's so hard to run that to have that judgment. Uh,
you know after fifteen minutes. I think it's it leads
you down the road. I mean, last year at the
Combine teams you're telling me Sam Donald wasn't very impressive,
(01:42:40):
and you know, and you just think, okay, fine, and
I actually some of the teams that were interested in
trading for Donald said he wasn't impressive in that interview.
I think sometimes the players are not really sure what
to make of it, and maybe they're caught off guard.
But I would suspect that if you did that or
you heard that, you still need to do more work.
I mean, look, it was it was Baker Mayfield. I
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think there was a team I'll tell you this, Patrick Mahomes.
When the Chief's first interviewed Patrick Mahomes in their room,
they were not wowed by them, and they went back
and did more work on them, and they thought, wow,
this guy is pretty good. So I think you need
to do it. You need to be careful on it.
I look, I've heard the same thing though. I heard
that the Bears. You remember they traded up for Trabinsky.
They thought, hey, Mahomes has more talent. But it could
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go either way. There was some concerns about you know
how he blown off meetings, attack and and kind of
a looseness to to his his lifestyle, and maybe and
maybe it was helped by the fact he sat behind
Alex Smith, the true professional for a year. But I
mean it's not close Trabinsky and and Mahomes now right, No,
it's not. And I mean Trapisky, I mean Matt. Maggie
(01:43:45):
admitted that when they had Trapisky in their fifteen minutes,
they were not impressed with them at all, and then
when he went back to North Carolina and spent time
with him, he became more oppressed with him. So I
think you gotta temper this. Look, it's the headline for
a day. I think you just gotta look at it
and move forward and try to collect your own data
and make your own decisions. Michael Lombardi joining us in
the Doug Outland Show on Fox Sports Radio. If you're
(01:44:07):
a team in need of a quarterback, who which quarterback
do you select first? That's a hard one for me.
I mean, I'm not sure they're you know. I like
Kyler Murray. I think he's a really good player. I'm
not a hype snob, but I worry about that. I
do worry about him. I mean it's a little bit like,
you know, the reason Mike Trout didn't get picked by
(01:44:28):
the St. Louis Cardinals was because the Cardinals felt like
hitters from New Jersey haven't proven to be very good
because got is from Texas playing better weather, and so
they have passed on them. And I don't want to
be caught in that category of saying this five ten
guy can't play, because I've watched them play really effectively.
I think, you know, just based on the other quarterbacks,
(01:44:48):
I would be a little bit leery of thinking that
they're gonna be high picks. I think I gotta do
more work on Drew Lock. I think Haskins has to
prove to me that he can throw the ball in
rhythm and him with timing. Michael Lombardi joining us in
the Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Most people have
assumed that that Bosa would be the first defensive end selected,
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and though he had you know, the hernia issue or
whatever the lower growing issue was that kept him out,
it hasn't hurt his stock, and of course his brother's
performances when healthy have only have only helped build up
his stock. But now you've got a kid in Josh
Allen from Kentucky, that's kind of come out of nowhere.
Who do you think is a better fit? Is it?
(01:45:32):
Is it about fit and style and scheme, or is
there one that you believe is better than the other.
I think Boss really talented. I think Josh Allen is
as talented as well. But this time last year, I
don't think Josh Allen proved everybody that he was this
talent that Bosa obviously was. I think they're both very
good players. I would lean more towards both, even though
he's missed games this year. I think there's a pedigree
and I think the size, I think his range, his
(01:45:54):
ability to rush, I think it's all right there. I
think he's a blue chip defensive lineman. Michael Lombardio wing
us In the Doug Gotlicks Show, there's talk of Antonio
Brown there. Basically it feels like they're all bids are
gonna be in by Friday. There's talk of the Raiders.
You of course worked with John Groud. You know how
he operates. Do you think that's at Do you think
that's a good match. Well, look, I know Gruden loves receivers.
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I think you know Obviously, I didn't think Markavis Bryant
was going to be a good match for him, and
it turned out not to be. I think this whole
Antonio Brown situation is you better know exactly what you're
getting into, you know, especially for a guy that you
know has done some strange, strange things since the season
has ended. And you know, I realized that having over
eight hundred catches is can change a man, and I
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realized having seventy four touchdown passes in the NFL can
change a man. But the dramatic change of this kid
from the time and he was a young player till
now is remarkable. And if you want to bring that
into your culture, if you want to accept that and
you want to wash away all the other parts can
feel free. But I know John well enough to know
that these kind of players and him don't work well together.
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That would be super interesting if they became a match.
Because he's got to give a new contract as well. Um, well,
you don't have to give him a new contract, Doug.
I mean, he's due to make twenty four and a
half million dollars. There's no he's got two more years.
If you just want to give the owner's money away
feel free, but you don't have to give him one.
I mean, that's part of the issue here is he's
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got two years, he's got an opt out of his
contract if he can. I mean, I don't know why
you have to give him a new contract. There's no
rule or law that says you do. And to me,
if he wants a new contract, that's another area where
you're concerned because you're giving away an asset that's fairly
cheap to walk into a huge contract. Um there. There's
the story out of l A that Todd Gurley has
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some sort of arthritis in that knee. Of course he
tore the A C L going back to college. But
is this a uh does this help teams in the
future not give long term deals right less? The Rams
they tore up his deal and gave him a new
deal like a year before they had to, and it
ends up backfiring where he he's not nearly good enough
(01:48:01):
or healthy enough by their own estimation to help them
in the biggest game of the year and we haven't
even hit the money part of the new contract. Does
this change how we look at running back contracts in
the future. Well, I think this I think when the
Rams gave him that deal where million of guaranteed money.
Most of the NFL were shocked by it because Todd
Gurley when he went to the Combine was a medical concern,
(01:48:23):
not with this first contract, with his second contract, everybody
knew that need was going to be problematic. And I
think when he got this huge contract he deserved it
based on his ability. There's no doubt about it. He's
a talented, great player. However, the long term interest of
the organization to put million into this made a lot
of teams in the NFL that I talked to shake
their heads, saying, wonder why they did that. It seemed
(01:48:44):
a little premature, especially considering the fact that they know
medically he's not going to last very long. So for me,
the only chance they have, and I wrote about this
for The Athletic this week, is they're going to have
to find another back to go with them to temper
what they utilize us him. Foresave him for the late
part of the season, because this is not going to
be a need that's gonna go twenty games into the season.
(01:49:06):
Where does Levian Bell make sense? You know, I think
the way the Jets have procured talent, the last five
years with Mike McKagan, he's going to have to stay
down the middle of the fairway, take the two iron out,
and just try to find really good players that he
knows are good players. Because when he goes off the
track and you look at what he's been able to
do as the Jets general manager, and you wonder why
(01:49:27):
they can't win any games. They've won twenty four games
in the last five years. I think it's fairly obvious
that they don't draft players or select free agents very well.
So I would suspect that Levian Bell would be a
real easy guy for the Jets to sign because he's
a proven town and I think that's something that Jets
need to find. What do you think of what Dave
Gettleman has done. Um Collins is gone and he was
(01:49:50):
really well liked within some parts of that organization and
by fans and and NFL pundon's and now there's talk
of trading Yodell Beckham Jr. What's your reaction with Dave
Gentleman is doing in New York this offseason. I think
you got to wait and see what the final product is.
I think sometimes we tend to judge free agency a
little too harshly by player by player move. It's not
a line item veto type of situation. I think you've
(01:50:12):
got to look at it as a whole. I think
Landon Collins is a good player. To me, the issue
I have with Dave Gentleman in terms of what he's
doing with his football team is kidding himself with the
starting quarterback. To me, I don't have any problems with
him trying to change this team. They've won thirty one
games the last five years. For anybody to believe that
the New York Giants are a really good football team,
they are doing something. They're looking at a different game
(01:50:33):
than I'm watching on Sundays. They've won thirty one games
in the last five years. The Patriots, on the other hand,
does have won seventy four. So by my count, the
Patriots have lapped the field three times on this team.
It's really remarkable how different the Patriots are to the
Giants in terms of wins, and I think it's fairly
clear the decisions come back to Eli Manning. Why they
he continue to convince us that Eli Manning is the
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starting quarterback in the league when there's no tape evidence
to support it is a shot to me, why why
why do you think that is? Can you help hypothesize
and theorize exactly why do you think that? Why would
why would they continue when everyone says like he doesn't
have it anymore, They're like, no, no, no, no, he's
got it. Why would this be? Because I think sometimes
the giants confuse loyalty with evaluations, and I think they
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love Eli, they love what he's done for their franchise.
They won, and they're not being able to separate the
emotion of loving the player from watching the player play.
It's a downfall of most organizations, and you almost have
to be clinical. You have to take a step back
and say, why have we won thirty one games? Why
is our record thirty one and fifty over the last
five years. If this guy is truly a franchise quarterback,
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then why do I have thirty one wins. It's the
same question that John Gruten's got to ask about Derek Carr.
Everybody says they throw out Derek carrs a franchise quarterback.
He's won thirty two games over the last five years.
I don't know franchise quarterbacks that just win thirty two games.
I think you're a franchise quarterback when you can win
more games because you're your talent, you carry the team.
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The team doesn't carry you. Michael Lombardi check out his
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Pleasures mind. Let's get you to Steve di Steger find
out what else is going on the world sports. Steve,
what you got? We'll start with the NFL is NFL
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Network reports there are still issues to work out, but
the Broncos are working on trade and quarterback case. Keenom
to Washington, where he would battle Colt McCoy for the
starting job. The Steelers agreed to a rich three year
deal with center Marquees Pouncy where thirty three million, and
gave guard Ramon Foster a two year contract. The forty
Niners declined the option on wide receiver Pierre Garson, but
did exercise the option for fullback Kyle use Check. The
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Titans have reportedly agreed to terms with Pro Bowl upunter
Brett current on a four year extension. However, Miami officially
cuts defensive and Andre Branch today. The Florida Gators season
opener against the Miami Hurricanes in Orlando was officially moved
up to August a Saturday night, as college football begins
celebrating its one fifty anniversary. This season. Two NBA games tonight,
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the late game Oklahoma City at Portland after ten thirty Eastern,
The Thunder tied with Portland and Houston for the number
three through five spots in the West, and Yes Yahoo
reporting that the Lakers, now thirty and thirty five, will
put forward Lebron James on a minute's restriction and likely
not playing back to back nights the regular season ends
next month. Hall of Fame pitcher Tom Siever has dimensioned
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will retire from public life at his vineyard in northern California.
He won three Cy Young Awards with the Mets. Golf
is in Orlando this week on the p g A Tour.
The stop is the Arnold Palmer Invitational. Kegan Bradley is
currently two shots back, tied for second place with fellow
American Billy Horschel, who still has couple holes to go
in his first round. Ricky Fowler shot at two over
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dot com. Segond what he got so much in fact,
just during the show, so much coming down the two
big stories that Hall of Fame picture. Tom Seaver has
dementia and will retire from public life. It has vineyard
in Northern California and the Yahoo NBA report that the
Lakers down to thirty and thirty five after last night's lost.
We'll put forward Lebron James on a minute's restriction and
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likely will not play him in back to back nights.
The I get your season ends next month's playoffs start
May to April. Yeah, their their playoff hopes are almost
completely eliminated. This makes sense. It didn't make sense when
their playoff hopes were very much alive to shut him
down when he wasn't playing great. I think now it's
it's the business of sports. You've got people who paid money,
really good money to see Lebron James play in a
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Lakers uniform. He's gonna have to show up and play
most nights, back to back nights make do make some
sense to me as of now. A lot of football
we mentioned from NFL Network that it's not done, but
they are motivated to finish a deal despite issues still
to be worked out. But the Broncos are working on
trading quarterback case Keenum to Washington and he would battle
Colt McCoy for the starting job there. I don't get it.
(01:56:39):
I don't understand why if if this makes me think
that Josh Rosen is not available because Josh Rosen made
a lot more sense if I was Washington then, uh
than he does with case Keenum unless they weren't willing
to part with the first round draft pickt The Pittsburgh
Steelers agreed to a deal to keep center Marquees Poundcy
now Adam Schefter. ESPN says it's a three year deal
(01:57:01):
averaging eleven million per making him the NFL's highest paid center.
NFL Networks Tom Pella Sero says the extension is two years,
twenty two mill and that fellow offensive lineman in Pittsburgh,
Ramon Foster, gets two years over eight million dollars. Yeah, look,
they're they're shuffling some money around because they know they're
gonna trade Antonio Brown. That's gonna hurt him in the cap.
(01:57:23):
So you're gonna try and have to fix things, mitigate
some of that because they also have to add another
wide receiver. And we're waiting for the Antonio Brown news.
Before the weekend, there was a link to maybe the
Titans being interested. ESPN says Titans no longer interested, and
in the past the Jets and the forty Niners were
previously connected with Brown somehow in the rumor mill and
either neither contacted Pittsburgh about a deal or they just
(01:57:46):
pulled out of conversations with this deal. Wonder what that means.
I'm just speaking out. I wonder what that means that
us it pull that uh because because they have the
team price of the person. Uh, allot both all of
the above. Meanwhile, the forty Niners are not going to
have wide receiver Pierre Garson back. NFL free agency opens
(01:58:08):
next Wednesday. He will become a free agent. The Niners
have passed on his option. They'll take a hit on
dead money rather than carry his cap number. So Pierre
gar no longer with San Francisco. Yeah, kind of over
the hill as well. And this is one reason I
think Antonio Brown lusted after the forty Niners. Look what
they have with Look what they have at at tight end,
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Look what they have with Marcy's Goodwin at the other side.
You know the ideas you need another wide receiver in
a past happy offense, But I don't think the numbers
make sense with how much they have locked to have
a quarterback Pierre. Two other football items, the Titans agreed
to terms with Pro Bowl hunter Brett Kerrn on a
four year extension, and USA today says Bill Polian is
saying the NFL and the New Alliance of American Football
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is there near an agreement to allow young NFL players
under contract to play in the Alliance. Yeah, so this
is gonna be practice squad guys and backup guys. You know,
the question is what happens when somebody gets hurt. They're
under an NFL contract, But they the NFL has long
needed some sort of minor league program, and that's what
the Alliance wants to become. Some college basketball coaches could
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be brought to the stand in an April trial in
New York regarding recruiting. That whole story continues, and the
Yahoo exclusive today was that l s U hoops coach
Will Wade spoke of a big offer to a recruit
in a phone call from seen intercepted by the FBI.
Also in the conversation appears to refer to the recruitment
of Javonte Smart, who's on his team averaging eleven points
(01:59:33):
this season. Yeah, it looks worse for him than it
did for Sean Miller this time last year. Remember Sean Miller.
It was a report of what was on what was
on recording that no one's heard as opposed to. This
is the actual court documents of what the FBI heard.
So it's a little bit different because we have actual
quotes from a tape update for me and rapping board
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NFL Network that the Redskins and Broncos now have agreed
to terms on a trade descend quarterback case Keenum to
Washington for draft picks with an adjusted contract. His sources
say Broncos get a skin sixth rounder and Washington gets
a seventh rounder as well. Well, they want to pay
less money and they didn't want to give up a
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high draft pick for Josh Rosen as the Rosen I mean,
like some people think Rosen is only worth the third
round pick. That would be a fascinating fall from grace.
Robert Craft's attorney says the Patriots owner will not be
at his March twenty eight hearing in Florida on soliciting charges.
Craft among about three hundred men accused after ten spas
in Florida. We're rated last month. Investigators say women involved
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into this whole thing, we're trafficking victims. But again the
attorney says, fine, there's a date, and it says he
has to par he's not going to be there. Yeah,
I mean, what's I mean? Nobody wants he doesn't have
to be there for photo op for a misdemeanor, right arrangement?
You uh? News from baseball as Dustin Pedroia Boston made
a spring debut today coming off knee surgery, and the
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new Braves the baseman Josh Donaldson, a former m VP,
is due to make his spring debut tomorrow night. And
Bryce Harper will make his spring debut for the Phillies
on Saturday. What about Clayton Kershaw? He played catch reportedly
again today it's spring training, but even his manager is
saying it's seeming more unlikely he'll pitch on opening day
for the Dodgers shoulder. That's on a new with a
new contract, by the way, a new reworked long term contract.
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And that's the press out there and pressed the press.
National Serial Day, National Serial Day is today, and um, look,
I don't dig on cereal like I used to, but
everybody's gotten down in some cereal, either in the morning
as a kid or late at night. Great mule replacement,
Ryan Music, your top sereals man, definitely gonna have to
(02:01:45):
go with Coco Puffs, Reese's Puffs, um Cookie crisp. I mean,
because we're just talking like the sugary cereals, right, I've
never gotten into the sugary serials. Yeah, I've never there
was I've gone through a Lucky Charms run at one point,
but I've never been. I'm I've always been more into
cheerios great grains, which is like a high falutin grape nuts.
(02:02:09):
You are a liar, I'm not. I don't like Golden
Grams is probably the sugariest cereal that How dare you
lie to our audience right now? I've never had Coco Puffs.
I've never had on your high in my in my life, yeah,
I mean, I haven't had. I don't eat those cereals anymore.
But yeah, I mean back in the day, I did not.
(02:02:29):
Back in the day, we didn't pop charts in my house.
You did not live like I love quite a good
life and all live my life. Ryan is angry at this. Um,
I like fruit loops, tricks and rites checks tricks are
essentially the same cereal there, So yeah, I got you
threw in two unhealthy and onehealthy right like you did
(02:02:49):
the seer. What kind of cereal you dig on honey
bunches of bouts with almonds, solid solid, very sold. That's
like sort of good for you, sort of sweet, and
it's not kind your traditional sugar cereal. You mentioned cheerios.
The honey nut cheerios are quite popular. Yeah, I would
if I would did honey out, it would be half
honey nut, half regular had fruit as you can. I mean,
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that's really when you kind of try and you try
and mirror what you see on the box. You have
strawberries to it, like pretty amazing serving suggestion. Yes, pretty
pretty amazing. Um. Yeah, I mean, like, look you go
down the cereal aisle and it's all pretty pretty amn
good and all pretty bad for you. Golden Graham's is
pretty solid, though, you'd say if you'd go, like, hey,
I like a little sugary cereal that kind of fakes
(02:03:33):
to be healthy. Golden Graham's is pretty amazing stuff. National
Cereal Day tomorrow, Daniel Jeremiah Correct, Then who else tomorrow?
You told me somebody else that was good and it's
cancer will join it to more. Well, I'm gonna ask Annis, like, hey,
I heard the Lakers wan did you Why didn't you
sound to the Lakers. I leave you with this. I
kind of felt bad for Lebron. You know, in his
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mind how it will work out in l A. Hed
come in a month fan Fair. This year, they'd make
the playoffs and he'd be he'd be beloved for resurrecting
the Lakers franchise and instead down fifteen with you know,
Alex Caruso passing to him. No disrespect to Alex Cruso.
My dad actually coached his dad at Creighton, but just
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you know, with some with some borderline NBA guys down
fifteen on non playoff team and the place doesn't even
seemingly go crazy over a historic mark that really means
a lot to him. I feel like Lebron is struggling
to adjust to life in l a what it really
means to be like to be a Laker. Mr Doug
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