April 5, 2019 • 41 mins
Doug Gottlieb is live from Minneapolis and gives a full preview of this weekend’s Final Four! Former college hoops coach Fran Fraschilla joins Doug to breakdown both semifinal games. Doug dives into Giannis’ big night and explains the impact it may have on the MVP race. Plus, Oklahoma Head Coach Lon Kruger joins Doug in Minneapolis to talk about what changes we may see in the college recruiting process.
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lot to get to UM interesting higher with Vanderbilt and basketball.
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Josh Rosen is expected at Cardinals workouts which you know
as of now he's on the Arizona Cardinals. That shouldn't
be a surprise. We can discuss the Jets new uniforms
as we discussed them a little bit. And uh, and
I think there's there's two NBA stories which are really interesting,
what Janice was able to do last night in Philadelphia.
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And then of course, uh, the story about Lebron and
his inability to land players not just in l A
with the Lakers, but potentially to film space Jam two
toxicity level, toxicity level. But I do want to spend
just a couple of minutes here and discussed college basketball.
Fran Fracilla, ESPN, College basketbay Nists still join me fifteen
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minutes or so, Buzz Williams and New Texas and m
head coach will join ms SO to a Lon Krueger,
Fran McCaffrey, a lot of friend and we'll throw on
some others that will that will stop by. But but
you know, for years, for years, you have heard coaches,
college basketball coaches, some college administrators and some fans say, hey,
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you know, why don't you just do the baseball model.
Let's just do the baseball model where guys can go
pro out of high school and if not, they stay
for three years, they go pro to high school, they
go to the minor leagues. And then look, college baseball
has the College World Series. And you know what we
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have in college basketball? You guessed it, the baseball model.
Now are there Major League Baseball players who play in
the College World Series? Absolutely, one or two on a team.
And sometimes you'll see a guy become a star right
before your eyes. And this weekend you're gonna see DeAndre
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Hunter play full or Virginia. He was the star power
forward as a freshman last year who missed the n
c A term when they lost to UNBC. You're gonna
get to know a name, Jared Culiver who's from Lubbock originally.
His parents both went and went and were athletes at
Texas Tech. And he'll be a first round draft pick
as a sophomore coming out of Texas Tech. And then
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you're gonna watch Auburn that probably doesn't have an NBA player,
especially with Chima Chuma Ukiki towards a c L in
the Sweet sixteen game. And then you're gonna see um
Michigan State who probably doesn't have an NBA player. Maybe
it's Cassius Winston and lost two lottery picks last year
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last year's lottery picks, even though he lost to Syracuse
in the n c A Tournament. The problem with the
college baseball model is it's college baseball, right. Have you
ever thought to yourself, man, can't wait to sit down
watch college baseball game ever? Even the College World Series
which the Omahaa Brown Aska and I don't know if
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you guys know, the used to play rosenblast Stam built
a beautiful, brand new like basically a small major league
park right in the heart of downtown Omaha. It is.
It is a great event. It is exhausting to go to.
And I was in college Oaklham State was in it.
We got a car packed up, went drank a bunch
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of beers and we got there, had a great time.
But it's so long. It's just exhausting, and you just
forget who's playing. I don't know, Let's go out and
drink some beers, say hi to some girls, and okay,
now let's go home. As awesome an event an evented
as it is? What's the percentage of people that mark
their calendar by it? Now? I think college basketball will
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be a bigger, better model of the College Baseball World Series.
But that's essentially what we have. Look, I can tell
you I grew up going to these final fours and
they're still cool. I brought my son to this one,
and he follow us on Instagram at Gottlieb Show. Um,
you can kind of see our all the different stuff
we'll be doing, and it's like a kid in a
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candy store. Now I'm working for my third network and
I got a little bit more free time. Heck, we're
gonna after the show. My son said, Hey, can we
go swim in the hotel pool? Like, yeah, it's in
the nor pool. We can. What the hell? I got
nothing else to do. I don't need to go onto
these parties. The point is, though, that the fandom has
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died down some. The build up. While if Zion was here,
or if Kentucky was here or North Carolina was here
would be greater, it's still pales in comparison to what
it used to be. Why well, because you knew the
players more. They were at places for three and four
years to three and four years, and they had a
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following Georgetown and Patrick Ewing and every year he played there,
they went to a Final four Christian Christian Latner winning
back to back national titles. You know, even the Fab
five that only lasted two years together, that was to
Final four. So the second year they were no longer
the jolly young kid. Instead they were a little bit
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of the older villain when Chris Webber called the time
out because the first year in the Final four was
they were blown out by Duke right here in Minneapolis.
Between player movement through regular transfers and grad transfers, coaches movement,
and more than anything, so many top level younger players
going almost immediately to the NBA and some going literally
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immediately to the NBA through Europe or simply training and
doing a prep school year. And then what the coming
change that Mike Sachowski warned about, which is guys being
able to go straight out of high school go to
the minor leagues. The thing about the baseball system is, well,
it sounds like a really good idea on paper. You know,
if you want to go, you go. If you want
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to stay, you gotta stay three years. You know, it
becomes baseball. You don't realize what you got until it's gone.
Just like relationship, I mean, think about like minor league
baseball guys are are complaining now about their wages, and
many many players who are highly drafted disappear into the
ether and they never make it to the major leagues.
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So when they if they do, they spend several years
and they don't have the educational basis and they don't
have a background outside of the world of sports. They
haven't been able to be promoted name, likeness, etcetera, etcetera.
So you don't know who they are when they get
out of baseball. They're just dudes. They gotta get a job.
If you haven't realized it already, you will in a
few years. You're gonna miss college basketball. And whether it's
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to pay the players guys, or it's to get to
the NBA because the NBA is better in college basketball?
Is this and that and abusive and whatever like not.
Everything that you say is completely wrong. But this system
has worked. It's been a great event, it's been a
great run. But everyone's insistent on it changing and evolving
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doesn't actually mean it's going to be better. My guess
is it's still gonna be cool, but it's not gonna
be better. It's probably gonna be worse and less followed
and harder to engage in and more of Forget about
a one month sport, more of a one and a
half weekend sport. That's the truth. The thing about college
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base But think about pushing college basketball towards the college
baseball model is you end up getting college baseball, which
gives you minor league baseball, and even to some extent,
gives you and Major league baseball where guys don't get
paid until they're in their fourth year. Be sure to
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and the I Heart Radio app. Doug Got Leave Shot
rolls on Fox Sports Radio. Frand Facilla joins us. We've
been friends for a long time, actually since his Manhattan
team kicked my Notre Dame teams, but in the garden
when I was a player and he was the coach
of the Jaspers. Last things back in New York and
here he's joining us at in the Twin Cities and
the side of the Final Four thanks to the folks
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at Westwood One. He called the n i T Championships
date where Texas took down Lipscomb. Uh Fran obviously covered
the Big Twelve in the last decade plus. Weird year
for Texas. They have had a lot of talent, but
it feel it feels like Shaka hasn't figured it out
or figured out Austin just yet. There was talk that
he might move on with Now you've seen them in
person here in the postseason, win five games in a row.
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You saw them all year in the Big Twelve. What's
your state? What's your take on the state of Texas basketball. Well,
a few things happened. Number one, uh, thet They've been
without Andrew Jones for two years, who was gonna be,
you know, borderline NBA first round pick, but a really
good player. They also they they're also in the process
of losing three straight one and done big men Jared Allen,
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mo Bamba and now Jackson hayes Um. I think this
team at the end of the year, with their young
guards to to sophomore to freshman sophomores and a maybe
see Febris might be a sophomore um, they started to
really gel this team. Board beat North Carolina, they beat
per Due, they beat Kansas, they beat k State. They
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had Michigan State on the ropes, but then they lose
to v c U and Radford. Um, so there was
some inconsistency there. They are close to getting it to
the point where they should be an n C double
a ternment team every year. Shock is frustrated by it.
The league is competitive. You can't give away games. They
gave away a nineteen point lead at Baylor late in
the game. Um, this was a good bomb for them,
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winning five straight and winning a n I T. As
I explained last night, they won the Outback Bowl. They
just won the Outback Bowl last night. Winning the inn
I T is like winning not a New Year's Day Bowl,
but a good bowl. And that's the progress. I think
they gotta keep making. Yeah, I think I would agree
with you, and I think he probably feels like it's
I guess the question is always can he play the
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style that he wants to play with Texas is kind
of there? I know they're not yeah there, and I
don't think he will. I think he's gonna play tradition
the league. Um is that a mistake, Well, it depends.
I think from my point of view, it could be
because Bob Huggins proved when he had the athletes with
Javon Carter, Dax Miles and the Juco guys. They inherited
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that they could press in this league, and I think
Shaka maybe was concerned that it would hurt his recruiting
because instead of getting three stars at VCU to play
Junkyard at dog style with Briante Webber among those guys
was a great college defensive guard. I think he feels
like he can't get four and five stars if he
gets these guys playing full court. I disagree, because if
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you're a big guy playing in that system, you better
learn to run the court, because that's all the NBA
is about. So but having said that, give him credit
for recruiting. Well, he's got a good class coming in
and he's got good young guards. He's got a really
good young backcourt Courtney Raymie from St. Louis is a tough,
hard nosed kid. He's something they haven't had since some
of those good Rick Barnes teams. Um, all right, speaking
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of the Big Twelve conference you've covered for over the
decade for for ESPN, Like man, maybe by the time,
by the time the show's over, we'll know that Jamie
Dixon is at U CL Like, what are you hearing about? You?
Cl Like he's I think he's out. I think he's out.
I've been told that he's out and out, meaning he's
taking the l A job. He's no, he's not taking
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out at you. He's not gonna take the U c
l A job. I've been told to buy out is
too high. That comes from somebody close to UC. How
do you how do you go back? Yeah? How do
you put that genie back in the bottom because he's
he's a Texas Christian alum and you know what, if
you're gonna leave tc U U c l A makes sense.
And the fact that it didn't get worked out. I
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think if your TCU you go good, we don't have
to go hire another coach because we have a guy,
in my opinion, that fits TCU to a t, because
he's an alum, because he's done a good job so far. Um.
But I think, um, I think he I think otherwise
it would get a little dicey. But the fact that
he's already built up some good equity with three straight
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postseasons Doug listen to and I teas in an n
c A at TCU, that's a lot more than they've
had in the last two decades. Fran Fischela, who has
covered the studio side of the n C a term
for Westwood One. Of course, you see him on ESPN
covers the NBA Draft as well as all of college basketball,
joining US Dog Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let's go
to Texas Tech Um the second I saw Chris Pards
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practice three years ago, four years three years ago. Yeah,
the only third year at tech. First year at tech UM.
I did a term when I was at CBS in
can Kun and I know, even you got luckily you
don't have to do the Cancoon stuff, but the Cancoons
these are cool because it is the hard rocks. You
got the hotel, and then there's just like a little
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not even a street, and then there's a like a
little convention hall and they have two gyms, so they
have like a JV tournament going on with like you know,
by game teams. You know. Yeah, yeah, Houston Baptist was
in it. I saw Eastern Kentucky play and then I
walk over im like I'm gonna watch Texas Tech practice,
and I was blown away. Yeah, and I was like
holy cow. And I talked to other people and they're like, yeah,
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I think he's good, but man, he was like a
manager at Texas Tech. Last time, I like, he's a
head coach, Like he did a really good job at
Little Rock. But well, we'll see. I was blown away. Um,
but you're like a coaches coach. This is your entire
your kids are in coaching, its entire profession. What is
it about what he's been able to do that's allowed
him to be so incredibly successful in two places in
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such a short period of time. Well, it's it's a
great question. And um, I would say, first of all,
the first time I watched them practice, I said, this
enthusiasm phony, like they're just putting on the show because
I'm here today, you know. And I was wrong. Um,
I think because of the fact that I see First
of all, let's let's just move ahead to this game.
These two teams have the same DNA. Yeah, like just
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Chris Beard. I love Tom Izzo. Um, I talked to
him this week. He's Chris Bear is not getting now coached. Now.
Tom Izzo is not getting now coached either. Okay, but
my point is, we know Tom Mizzle's a Hall of Famer. Yep,
Chris Beard. You and I may remember him, but not
the average fan doesn't know much about him. Um twenty
year overnight sensation, learned how to coach at different spots
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along the way. D D two, D three Juco Minor League,
ten years with Bob Knight. Um and so here's what
he's got. He has a he has a system and
a style. Some of it some of it is Eddie Sutton,
Mr Riba coach Knight. You know, it's one big family
dug on the defensive end. Um and every every relentless
in their pursuit of perfection. And that means every drill,
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every practice, every workout, every shoot around, everything they do
is about doing it to an amazing degree of intensity
and accountability. We all dream about having teams that will
play as hard as they play Um. But he has
a vision in his head of how he wants the
team to play, and they match that vision. This team
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lost four seniors in the first round, pit they added
to graduate transfers. They and and a bunch of guys
that were fifty year guys and just role players and
a great player from wabbick Um. But he is a
he is a great basketball coach. The preparation that they
have for opponents is as good as anything I've seen
and I've seen a lot of good coaches. Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm,
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I'm with you across the board. Who do you think
wins that game? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know.
I don't do you don't, I don't know. I think
it's I've talked to both staffs and because I've seen
both teams in person. I saw Tech Tech back in
Kansas City twice and then I've seen Michigan State five
times in person, and they're both really impressed. And they're
not really impressive because they're super super talented, but they're
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mature guys, know their roles. They're very very physical. Well, yeah,
here's the point. Well, first of all, I've talked to
both staffs this week as well, and both staffs have
an enormous amount of respect for the other. Yeah, that
that we know. But here's the other thing. Two years ago,
Dearn de Aaron Fox gets beaten by North Carolina, right,
great freshman at Kentucky, crying like a baby. Um. Three
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days later, he signs with an NBA agent. I'm not
saying the crying was fake. It was not. He he
felt it. When you lose at Texas Tech and you
have a certain amount of guys back, or you lose
at Michigan State to Syracuse in Detroit last year and
everybody's back Virginia losing embarrassingly, there's a certain amount of
like we will be back, Yes, And that's what I think.
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All four of these teams have veteran guys, toughness, great coaching,
and uh, I don't know who's gonna win. I think
it's gonna be fun. Alright. Last thing you gotta run, yeah,
is there is Should there be a bigger discussion John
Morant instead of Ziemson, Yes, but only in this regard.
If I'm the Phoenix Suns and I've got eighton and
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I've got Booker, and I'm gonna probably still take Zion,
but I Am going to look long and hard to
make sure that before we take Zion, much like Gray Odin,
that we make sure he's healthy, that we feel like
his body's gonna hold out over ten or twelve years,
which I think it will. You have to do your
due diligence on John Moran before you take Zion, because
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John Moran, I believe, is the only other transcendent player
in this draft. They're the only two guys. I could
say that. I think they're both gonna be NBA All Stars. Um,
I don't feel that way about anybody. Now, somebody's gonna be,
but it's gonna be the sixteenth pick. Who's gonna get
better over ten years. I think you have to take
a long hook of John Morant, a long look at him.
I would still take Zion if everything's even health, et cetera.
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But John Moran, I think it's gonna be a great pro. Yeah.
I didn't agree with you. A great job. I've been
listening to in studio all tournament long. Likewise, where can
you where can your tail off? Enjoy some time off?
I think before before you get to the NBA Draft
and you get uh, you get your boys to to
connect with as well. Thanks so much for joining us.
Always enjoy it, Always to love talking to you. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leap
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Show week days at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. You
know what's what's interesting to me about Let's let's go
to the NBA real quick. We're here for the final four.
Good folks at Westwood One kind enough to give us
some space on radio row and UM, who do we
have joined us this hour. Remind me we have Lan
Krueger coming up. Alan Krueger is coming up. Of course
he's he's in the final four a couple of years ago.
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Man I got willified Nova. Won't bring that one up. Uh,
but won a game this year in the n C
A turned Fran McAffrey is gonna join us as well. Um,
I do want that about Lebron will do that this hour.
And the new struggles apparently to get dudes to be
on his in his new movie. But here's something that's
fed fascinating to me. Janice plays really well last night
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and the Bucks beat the six Ers last night one
to one. He has forty five points on only twenty
two shots, all right now. Uh. He also had forty
five thirteen rebounds, six assists, and two blocks. Excuse me,
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five five blocks and last night us let's just call
it a clean neck game. We've always called it. Uh,
it's called it a cologne game. It's like a clean
neck game. You know, when you have a big we
have a date, when you had a dance, you're gonna
be on TV. You gotta go eat your neck cleaned
up all right? Like so often times you like, what
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do I shave? I'm not shave. Like, dude, did you
get your neck cleaned up? You gotta go over your
boys house or go to your barber and have him
clean up your neck. You can't have you can't have
hairy neck. Now we're gonna take out a nice look
at lady. Well, that's what this is, is is that clean
neck game. And he stepped up his game. And of
course when they lost in overtime to Atlanta, he didn't
play in that game. But if you look at their
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last four wins in which Janice has played in Houston,
probably the second best team in the West, Clippers playoff
team the West Nets playoff team in the East, and
then the Sixers playoff team the East. Like stepping up
his level of play? Is he the best player in
the NBA? No? No, Like, let's not go crazy. He's
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incredibly versatile, can help you at both ends, seeming that
they play any position. He doesn't shoot it that well,
he does turn over a bit much. And because of
those two factors, especially the shooting, it's really hard for
him to be considered the very best player in the NBA. Now,
was he the best player? You can be the best
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player on a court and not be the best player
in the NBA. You can be the best player in
the court in a really competitive, high level NBA game
and not be the best player in the NBA. The
best player in the NBA earns that right based upon
continued success against the elite teams in clean neck or
Cologne games and in the playoffs. He has yet one
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a playoff series. I oh, yeah. By the way, if
the numbers tell you that you can't shoot, well, I
mean what we can do. He's really hard to guard
in the regular season because you can't make contact with him.
He can't be as physical with him as you can
in the postseason. So for the regular season, he's probably
the league's MVP, and he's trending the way of becoming
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the best player in the NBA, but he's not as
if yet. And Kevin Durant was the MVP of the
league back when he's in Oklahoma City. He didn't become
the best player in the league until he bested Lebron
James in the NBA Finals. Until you vanquish the enemy
before everybody else, we can't have you in that discussion.
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So that man doesn't mean it wasn't awesome, doesn't mean
he's not probably not the m v P. And and
you know, the two performances, the Houston performance the Sixers
performance may well win him the m v P. But
let's not go crazy when in the m v P
has never said that you're the best player in the league.
It just means you're the best player in your team
on one of the best teams the league, and you've
had the best year of anybody else. And I find
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no reason to argue a guy who statistically is the
most effective defensive player and one of the toughest covers
offense of him. Yes, rhyme is it? If you could
take Janice for the rest of his career or Durant
for the rest of his career, who would you Who
would you prefer? Howld Jonas I think he is like
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and Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant is um, Yeah, I'd
take gans. Kevin Durant's like thirty, right, Kevin Durant is thirty, yeah, thirty,
and he's out of foot I would I would take Janice.
Now here's the thing that I was really the impressive
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part about Janice was that game had had a little
chippiness to it, had a little nastiness to it, a
little competitiveness to it, and there there there have been
some that wonder does he have that gene like look?
Basketball at its core is a street game, is a
city game. And it's not that you know, Embi didn't
grow up, you know, playing in the streets. To me,
he's an African player, came over late in high school
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and uh, I mean gains Florida and then went to
So it's not like we we know how he's wired.
But you're just you wonder because Janice is such a
nice dude, right, does he have that mean streak in him?
Does he have that? You know? Remember when early in
the career, a few years ago, the Bucks played the
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Bulls in the first round series and they got blown
out in Game six at home by like forty points.
Janice was kicked out of that game because he just
bulldozed Mike Dunlevy Jr. On the sidelines, just ran up court,
didn't make any attempt to make a block or a
play on the ball or anything, and just ran them over.
So you kind of knew that that that streak was somewhere,
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but you just didn't know if it would be channeled
into that way or if it would be channeled into
six and five, which it was last night. That's what
was so amazing to me is you always knew, you know,
it's why he doesn't want to work out with Lebron,
because he doesn't want to be you know, BFFs with
all of his you know, top challengers. I think that's
in him. I just always have felt how was it
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going to be channeled into a performance. And last night
blocked in bead four times, like four of those five
blocks were on embiid. It was it was really really impressive.
Um I was. I was really impressed too. And and
it is my not necessary criticism is my wondering before
the game and impressions of him after the game fair
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Dan in that when when games get hippy, James getting nasty,
what would he do? That's probably the most impressive part
about last night's performance. Yeah, and he was he was
dominant on both ends of the court, and then we worry, like,
what's he gonna do with They're just gonna sit back
and let him shoot. Ben Simmons, who was guarding him
at you know, multiple times last night basically wouldn't would
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stand almost in the middle of the lane and just
wait for Jhannae to attack. And Jhanna still attacked and
went to the basket and made shots, actually hit a
big three in the fourth quarter when they were trading
buckets every every time that he needed to step up
last night, and when they needed him, when the Sixers
were making a run, he was there and and did
so without Eric Bledsoe. And know the Sixers didn't have
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Jimmy Butler, but I mean it was it was a
standout performance last night. Yeah, it was. It was really impressive.
And I also think that it exposed the seventies sixers, right,
the seventy Sixers can be temperamental, the seventies sixers can
be had. Um Like, we come away with great impressions
about the Bucks, but I actually think that we all
know the Celtics seem to have a mind game and
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great matchups against the Sixers, and now you start to
feel like the Bucks do as well. So yeah, look,
I'm excited for playoff basketball in the NBA because not
everything we've learned about about the regular season is is accurate,
uh for the playoffs, but some of what some of
the die has been cast and people in the league
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seem to know it. Yes, Ryan Music. So the two
m VP candidates again this year, James Harden who won
it last year, and then, be honest, that's what people
are arguing between now with those super is going forward,
who do you think is more likely to win an
NBA title? Janice because he's younger or Hardened because of
how much he carries that team, how close they got. Honest,
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be honest, because of what he does for the defensive end.
You don't think Harden and Chris Paul could get it
done more likely in the next couple of seasons, especially
if if everyone thinks that Durant's headed to the East
with Kyrie and the Knicks. Now that's who Jannis has
to compete with over the next five years, as opposed
to James Harden and the Rockets, who were close to
beating the Warriors last season, than if Durant leaves now
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they are probably the best team in the West. Um, yeah,
look Harden, obviously, it's it's just different, right, Like Hardens
an offensive weapon the likes of which very few have
ever been in the NBA, and he does fit with
the way the NBA is officiated now, um and he
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plays downhill, And but I look Jannest ye, Jannae helps
you have both ends. You don't have to hide him.
There's not a He's got the size to guard every position,
and he's got the length to guard smaller players, even
more so than Lebron ever had. I think it's Johnest
and I don't. I don't actually think it's close. My
only my two questions about you, honest were competitiveness, like
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what does he do? I still want to see, like
what does he do in a series if they're down,
you know, two games to none, three games to one
or whatever. And Canny continue to improve as a shooter.
As a shooter, it's not great. It doesn't look good.
It's not great three the line, it's not great. But
like Magic Johnson made himself into a three point shooter.
You know, Brook Lopez, his center made himself into a
three point shooter. If he can make himself into a
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mid thirties three point shooter, how do you guard that guy? How?
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n l V. Of course now the head coach of
Oklahoma Sooners. UH finished with twenty wins yet again in
the n c A Tournament. UH they ultimately lost to Virginia,
the number one seed in their brackets. Lon Krueger spent
some time with this year in the Doug Gottli Show, Coach,
how are you doing well? And thanks for bringing up
the Hardwood Classics game this morning. That kind of brings
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to light the real reason for you know, fighting this disease,
to see people like that are surviving cancer and and
enjoying a great day at the Final four. Look, I
want to promote it because it's played at a great
golf course. Dan Byre, who who does our updates, and
you'll hear from him in ten minutes. Dan's a huge
golfer um for for people who don't know what it's about.
You started this back in your UNV right we did
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you have twelve years ago and uh MGM Grand came
on as a sponsor about five six years ago and
they've been phenomenal. Now Sanford Health as the presenting sponsor.
Kelby Krabenhoff in his group out of South Dakota. Fantastic
play at Shadow Creek in Southern Highlands. Like you mentioned,
two great course. There's a lot of great, great partners
around from around the country and uh Beggas of course,
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is a good hot site. Yeah, I mean you had
a chance to play at those two courses pretty awesome.
I mean, especially one where he saw you know, the same.
Of course we start Tiger versus Phil, Right, that's right. Um,
would you have beaten either Tagger? They weren't very good
that day, you could have taken one of them. I
don't think that would have been a question. They when
they're not very good, they're still better than everyone else.
They are. It's pretty good, pretty pretty good, pretty good
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stuff that ultimately took home, took on the money late, late, late,
late into the night in Vegas. Um. What makes Virginia
so so hard to beat? They They they're great at
what they do, you know, and every year they're good defensively,
and and this year again they they're very well coached,
they're very well drilled. They their team that when you
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finished playing and you think, well, we maybe could beat
those guys, you know we could, we could make those shots.
But everyone says that, and no one beats them. So
you know, they get you out of rhythm, they get
you out of think. And then on the other end,
this year they're probably one of the better offensive versions
of coach Bennetts teams in quite some time. So they're good.
They're really good. And coach Bennet does a great job,
and they're facing kind of a polar opposite matchup in
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an Auburn team who's lost one of the most talented
players but does like to play a more frenetic style
from them. From your experience, you know, the cliche is
it's harder to it's easier to slow a game down
than this speeding game up. Is that accurate in the
final four? Well, I think it's very accurate, no question.
The only way our we could speed it up as
if they make eight out of their first chance and
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and create a margin and then just keep making shots
as they've done in other games so far. They've played great,
but Virginia is very adept at getting the game and
the pace they want. They do it on the offensive
and as much of the defensive vand because they're very patient,
they'll turn down an okay shot to get a better shot,
maybe two or three times in one possession, So they're
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they're very good at it. Blon Krueger joining us in
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we
are watching you know, look you had a one and
done last year, and Trey Young, who's having an outstanding
season and you so you're you're left with this kind
of Okay, Look, if I don't play the kid, you
know you can transfer or you could go pro anyway.
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And if I do play him, you have to accept
apped some of the flaws of it and integrating him
in with your younger players. Like, it's not it's not
an easy thing. So I guess the question is, and
we look at Michigan State, they lost two lottery picks
and they're here. Um, there are many people who thought
your team was maybe a little bit better and more
cohesive at the end of the year in spite of
the fact you didn't have the NBA talent and you
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had last year with Trey Young. Um, heck, you look
like at Texas Tech. Now they still have a first
round draft pick, but they lost a lottery pick on
one and done from last year four stars and they're
back here, Like, how does it? Can Canada affect your
recruiting in recruiting guys that might be at one and
done considering so many teams have been successful not having
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one and dones, Oh, without question? That can you can
kind of make cages for whatever, because there's the cases
where the one and done do well, of course, and
in there's cases where the older guys do well and
that's more of the trend this here. But yeah, when
you think about you know, the age of Texas Tech, Uh,
the matur to you a Virginia, Michigan State, you know, Auburn.
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You know, you've got a lot of veteran guys there
that played a lot of minutes and played very well together.
So the one and does maybe don't quite have that
ability or time to develop into that type of team,
but uh, they can be awfully good in their own right.
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of of Lon Krueger. If there's one thing about
college basketball you would change, what would be? Oh, that's
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a good question. It's uh, you know, you know, I
think the the direction we're headed, I think they should
have the opportunity to go out of high school if
they want to. Uh. The unfortunate part of that if
they do, you know, right now, there's not a provision
for if they make a mistake, then they can't come
back and get your education on scholarship. So I'd like
to see some kind of a hybrid there where if
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they go and get the bad advice coming out that
they still have that five year window to come back
and play college basketball, you know, within within five years.
Well you got the five year window. Now when you
come out of high school, you know to play four
so so, but but okay, but what happens if you
play in the NBA, Like you can go back and
go to college and playing college play in the NBA.
Probably aren't going back. I'm thinking about the one. But
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don't make it like they thought they were gonna make it. No,
that's a fascinating idea. I think there's something that we
could do with that, because you know, just because the
kids gets bad advice coming out of high school, he's
seventeen years old, why not give him some opportunity to
reclaim those maybe last two or three years of eligibility
and uh a good start education. So I'd love to
see something like that. In my thought would be a
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little different. My thought would be, I actually think, look,
I I I don't I don't know. But the ability
to come straight out, I I don't think there's anything
wrong with having guys stay in even two years. I
would I would offer some sort of could you could
you allow them to be around NBA programs in the
summer right where you don't have in some almost like
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a summer internship, you know where you could go because
when now, when I played, UM you were allowed to
go work out with NBA teams as long as you
paid your own way to and from, and I don't.
I didn't get per diem either. So one summer I
went and I was with the Portland Trailblazers in like
a mini camp. And it was mind blowing one because
I was like, Damn, those guys are really, really, really good.
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I have I have a lot of work to do.
But also it gave them a chance to see me
and to give me some advice and to see how
the NBA game was different and how NBA guards we
were kind of different. I don't know. I just I
feel like once they go pro, they're gone. Because my
fear is maybe not fear, but realization is that we
all think the five or ten kids that could get
drafted will get drafted. The problem is there's gonna be
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fifty six kids that put their name in and go
straight out of high school. That and that is the problem,
no question about it. And uh, and that's why I say, uh,
it needs to be some provision to maybe let them
recoup some some educational opportunities after they learned that they're
not quite ready for what they'd hope to be. Doug
Gollip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Lon Krueger is
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is our guest. Um, Chris Beards turned this program around,
and it's interesting in with Texas Tech. Texas Tech, there's
a little bit of Oklahoma to it, where you look
at the coaches at Oklahoma. He has amazing basketball coaches
that have been at OU. You know, from Billy Tubbs
to going back to John McCloud obviously in Kelvin Samson. Uh, yourself,
Um and I used to be some big time coaches.
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Texas Techas had Tubby, They've had Bob Knight. Um, even
James Dickey had him well last two games last year
at the Southwest Conference. That Billy Gillespie, who obviously some
personal stuff obviously was his his ultimate downfall. But but
Beard has been able to take them to a higher level.
You've coached against him now for a couple of years.
What do you see. What's the secret sauce to what
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he's able to do. Yeah, I don't you know, It's
just I think commitment and focus. It seems like he's
got guys that are just totally bought in, Uh, take
a lot of pride in what they're doing. Uh, they
get from each position exactly what they want out of
each position. Of course, coach Beard is a big part
of that, and I think, uh, you know, you've got
you know, even Covert of course the first rounder when
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he when wherever you decided to come out. Um, the
other guys, the other guys are are good, solid players.
They're not uh you know, I think Mooney has had
a really good year and made a big difference for
them already really makes big shots. Uh you know, Owen
has been a big transfer for them that blocked shots.
Frances comes off the bench and very physical, corporate comes off.
They've got They've got some good pieces that I think
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respect what they can do, and they do exactly that.
And I think that's always impressed me from a coaching perspective.
The other thing, though, you mentioned that to try to
a couple of grad transfers, right, but that Mooney and
Terry Gohens is they're able to get to grad chancellors
who totally bought in their roles. They both you know
and and Mooney wasn't a high major guy air Force
to South Dakota. Whatever you took to grad transfers that
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I mean, Look, you don't have to say it. I'll
say it for you. Like they weren't they didn't be
They weren't really big twelve coll of the player. There's
a reason they were playing at lower levels. Um, how
how hard is it we only talk about like I've
read where they're talking about not allowing you know, you'll
lose that scholarship if a kid doesn't graduate in your
first year or whatever. We only talk about the success
stories with the grad transfers. How hard is it to
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you don't have a lot of time to make a
decision and you see a guy in the transfer portal,
decide do I want to take somebody who's transferring up
a level? I mean in terms of understanding the player
you're gonna get. Yeah, And it's difficult. You don't have
a lot of time. You know, our two guys actually
didn't didn't have the success that you know that the
Mooney and you knowers do, but they actually filled a
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need for us from a depth standpoint, you know, in
the end um. But it's become it's become another recruiting
season in and of itself. You know, there'll be uh
hundreds of guys that uh that are grad transfers this year,
and they'll be recruited like crazy as of you know,
last week on onto uh you know, the rest of
the spring. So's it because it's a big part of
programs right now, it's a very important part of it.
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I'm not sure it's a great part of our game,
you know, because a lot of programs are deprived of
a guy that've invested in for three or four years
and now he's gone in what would be his most
productive year. So I'm not sure it's great, but it's
uh probably a part of it that's here to stay.
What's it like to have your son and your staff?
It's been great, It's been great. He's got a passion forward.
He loves it, uh loves uh the game preparation, the
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practice preparation, the workouts. Uh. You know, he's grown up
with it. So he has a great time. Does it
make you want to do it longer? Or does it
make you want to you know, hand it to him
and let let him like, what what is the what
is the honor when you come to work and you
see him because because um, you know, I know some
coaches are like, look, it's so enjoyed like this, I
get to spend all this time with my son. I
never would before. On the other hand, look, you have
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you have a life, you have grandkids, you have interest.
What's it? How does it affect you and your desire
to work? I think I think initially gives you a
little uh a little uh renewed pep. I guess if
you if you will, I mean every year it's it's
fun because whoever you're with your son or not. You know,
the challenges helped that be that year be a great
experience for your guys. But when he came to it,
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the unov the player in that it year, you know,
that was kind of rejuvenating and the same thing as
the part of our staff the last couple three. So
but he loves it, needs to have a great time
and uh uh you know married last May. So new
new new excitement in his life. Great stuff. Lon Krueger,
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Josh Rosen is expected at Cardinals workouts which you know
as of now he's on the Arizona Cardinals. That shouldn't
be a surprise. We can discuss the Jets new uniforms
as we discussed them a little bit. And uh, and
I think there's there's two NBA stories which are really interesting,
what Janice was able to do last night in Philadelphia.
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And then of course, uh, the story about Lebron and
his inability to land players not just in l A
with the Lakers, but potentially to film space Jam two
toxicity level, toxicity level. But I do want to spend
just a couple of minutes here and discussed college basketball.
Fran Fracilla, ESPN, College basketbay Nists still join me fifteen
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minutes or so, Buzz Williams and New Texas and m
head coach will join ms SO to a Lon Krueger,
Fran McCaffrey, a lot of friend and we'll throw on
some others that will that will stop by. But but
you know, for years, for years, you have heard coaches,
college basketball coaches, some college administrators and some fans say, hey,
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you know, why don't you just do the baseball model.
Let's just do the baseball model where guys can go
pro out of high school and if not, they stay
for three years, they go pro to high school, they
go to the minor leagues. And then look, college baseball
has the College World Series. And you know what we
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have in college basketball? You guessed it, the baseball model.
Now are there Major League Baseball players who play in
the College World Series? Absolutely, one or two on a team.
And sometimes you'll see a guy become a star right
before your eyes. And this weekend you're gonna see DeAndre
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Hunter play full or Virginia. He was the star power
forward as a freshman last year who missed the n
c A term when they lost to UNBC. You're gonna
get to know a name, Jared Culiver who's from Lubbock originally.
His parents both went and went and were athletes at
Texas Tech. And he'll be a first round draft pick
as a sophomore coming out of Texas Tech. And then
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you're gonna watch Auburn that probably doesn't have an NBA player,
especially with Chima Chuma Ukiki towards a c L in
the Sweet sixteen game. And then you're gonna see um
Michigan State who probably doesn't have an NBA player. Maybe
it's Cassius Winston and lost two lottery picks last year
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last year's lottery picks, even though he lost to Syracuse
in the n c A Tournament. The problem with the
college baseball model is it's college baseball, right. Have you
ever thought to yourself, man, can't wait to sit down
watch college baseball game ever? Even the College World Series
which the Omahaa Brown Aska and I don't know if
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you guys know, the used to play rosenblast Stam built
a beautiful, brand new like basically a small major league
park right in the heart of downtown Omaha. It is.
It is a great event. It is exhausting to go to.
And I was in college Oaklham State was in it.
We got a car packed up, went drank a bunch
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of beers and we got there, had a great time.
But it's so long. It's just exhausting, and you just
forget who's playing. I don't know, Let's go out and
drink some beers, say hi to some girls, and okay,
now let's go home. As awesome an event an evented
as it is? What's the percentage of people that mark
their calendar by it? Now? I think college basketball will
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be a bigger, better model of the College Baseball World Series.
But that's essentially what we have. Look, I can tell
you I grew up going to these final fours and
they're still cool. I brought my son to this one,
and he follow us on Instagram at Gottlieb Show. Um,
you can kind of see our all the different stuff
we'll be doing, and it's like a kid in a
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candy store. Now I'm working for my third network and
I got a little bit more free time. Heck, we're
gonna after the show. My son said, Hey, can we
go swim in the hotel pool? Like, yeah, it's in
the nor pool. We can. What the hell? I got
nothing else to do. I don't need to go onto
these parties. The point is, though, that the fandom has
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died down some. The build up. While if Zion was here,
or if Kentucky was here or North Carolina was here
would be greater, it's still pales in comparison to what
it used to be. Why well, because you knew the
players more. They were at places for three and four
years to three and four years, and they had a
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following Georgetown and Patrick Ewing and every year he played there,
they went to a Final four Christian Christian Latner winning
back to back national titles. You know, even the Fab
five that only lasted two years together, that was to
Final four. So the second year they were no longer
the jolly young kid. Instead they were a little bit
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of the older villain when Chris Webber called the time
out because the first year in the Final four was
they were blown out by Duke right here in Minneapolis.
Between player movement through regular transfers and grad transfers, coaches movement,
and more than anything, so many top level younger players
going almost immediately to the NBA and some going literally
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immediately to the NBA through Europe or simply training and
doing a prep school year. And then what the coming
change that Mike Sachowski warned about, which is guys being
able to go straight out of high school go to
the minor leagues. The thing about the baseball system is, well,
it sounds like a really good idea on paper. You know,
if you want to go, you go. If you want
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to stay, you gotta stay three years. You know, it
becomes baseball. You don't realize what you got until it's gone.
Just like relationship, I mean, think about like minor league
baseball guys are are complaining now about their wages, and
many many players who are highly drafted disappear into the
ether and they never make it to the major leagues.
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So when they if they do, they spend several years
and they don't have the educational basis and they don't
have a background outside of the world of sports. They
haven't been able to be promoted name, likeness, etcetera, etcetera.
So you don't know who they are when they get
out of baseball. They're just dudes. They gotta get a job.
If you haven't realized it already, you will in a
few years. You're gonna miss college basketball. And whether it's
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to pay the players guys, or it's to get to
the NBA because the NBA is better in college basketball?
Is this and that and abusive and whatever like not.
Everything that you say is completely wrong. But this system
has worked. It's been a great event, it's been a
great run. But everyone's insistent on it changing and evolving
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doesn't actually mean it's going to be better. My guess
is it's still gonna be cool, but it's not gonna
be better. It's probably gonna be worse and less followed
and harder to engage in and more of Forget about
a one month sport, more of a one and a
half weekend sport. That's the truth. The thing about college
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base But think about pushing college basketball towards the college
baseball model is you end up getting college baseball, which
gives you minor league baseball, and even to some extent,
gives you and Major league baseball where guys don't get
paid until they're in their fourth year. Be sure to
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team kicked my Notre Dame teams, but in the garden
when I was a player and he was the coach
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here he's joining us at in the Twin Cities and
the side of the Final Four thanks to the folks
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at Westwood One. He called the n i T Championships
date where Texas took down Lipscomb. Uh Fran obviously covered
the Big Twelve in the last decade plus. Weird year
for Texas. They have had a lot of talent, but
it feel it feels like Shaka hasn't figured it out
or figured out Austin just yet. There was talk that
he might move on with Now you've seen them in
person here in the postseason, win five games in a row.
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You saw them all year in the Big Twelve. What's
your state? What's your take on the state of Texas basketball. Well,
a few things happened. Number one, uh, thet They've been
without Andrew Jones for two years, who was gonna be,
you know, borderline NBA first round pick, but a really
good player. They also they they're also in the process
of losing three straight one and done big men Jared Allen,
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mo Bamba and now Jackson hayes Um. I think this
team at the end of the year, with their young
guards to to sophomore to freshman sophomores and a maybe
see Febris might be a sophomore um, they started to
really gel this team. Board beat North Carolina, they beat
per Due, they beat Kansas, they beat k State. They
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had Michigan State on the ropes, but then they lose
to v c U and Radford. Um, so there was
some inconsistency there. They are close to getting it to
the point where they should be an n C double
a ternment team every year. Shock is frustrated by it.
The league is competitive. You can't give away games. They
gave away a nineteen point lead at Baylor late in
the game. Um, this was a good bomb for them,
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winning five straight and winning a n I T. As
I explained last night, they won the Outback Bowl. They
just won the Outback Bowl last night. Winning the inn
I T is like winning not a New Year's Day Bowl,
but a good bowl. And that's the progress. I think
they gotta keep making. Yeah, I think I would agree
with you, and I think he probably feels like it's
I guess the question is always can he play the
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style that he wants to play with Texas is kind
of there? I know they're not yeah there, and I
don't think he will. I think he's gonna play tradition
the league. Um is that a mistake, Well, it depends.
I think from my point of view, it could be
because Bob Huggins proved when he had the athletes with
Javon Carter, Dax Miles and the Juco guys. They inherited
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that they could press in this league, and I think
Shaka maybe was concerned that it would hurt his recruiting
because instead of getting three stars at VCU to play
Junkyard at dog style with Briante Webber among those guys
was a great college defensive guard. I think he feels
like he can't get four and five stars if he
gets these guys playing full court. I disagree, because if
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you're a big guy playing in that system, you better
learn to run the court, because that's all the NBA
is about. So but having said that, give him credit
for recruiting. Well, he's got a good class coming in
and he's got good young guards. He's got a really
good young backcourt Courtney Raymie from St. Louis is a tough,
hard nosed kid. He's something they haven't had since some
of those good Rick Barnes teams. Um, all right, speaking
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of the Big Twelve conference you've covered for over the
decade for for ESPN, Like man, maybe by the time,
by the time the show's over, we'll know that Jamie
Dixon is at U CL Like, what are you hearing about? You?
Cl Like he's I think he's out. I think he's out.
I've been told that he's out and out, meaning he's
taking the l A job. He's no, he's not taking
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out at you. He's not gonna take the U c
l A job. I've been told to buy out is
too high. That comes from somebody close to UC. How
do you how do you go back? Yeah? How do
you put that genie back in the bottom because he's
he's a Texas Christian alum and you know what, if
you're gonna leave tc U U c l A makes sense.
And the fact that it didn't get worked out. I
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think if your TCU you go good, we don't have
to go hire another coach because we have a guy,
in my opinion, that fits TCU to a t, because
he's an alum, because he's done a good job so far. Um.
But I think, um, I think he I think otherwise
it would get a little dicey. But the fact that
he's already built up some good equity with three straight
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postseasons Doug listen to and I teas in an n
c A at TCU, that's a lot more than they've
had in the last two decades. Fran Fischela, who has
covered the studio side of the n C a term
for Westwood One. Of course, you see him on ESPN
covers the NBA Draft as well as all of college basketball,
joining US Dog Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let's go
to Texas Tech Um the second I saw Chris Pards
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practice three years ago, four years three years ago. Yeah,
the only third year at tech. First year at tech UM.
I did a term when I was at CBS in
can Kun and I know, even you got luckily you
don't have to do the Cancoon stuff, but the Cancoons
these are cool because it is the hard rocks. You
got the hotel, and then there's just like a little
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not even a street, and then there's a like a
little convention hall and they have two gyms, so they
have like a JV tournament going on with like you know,
by game teams. You know. Yeah, yeah, Houston Baptist was
in it. I saw Eastern Kentucky play and then I
walk over im like I'm gonna watch Texas Tech practice,
and I was blown away. Yeah, and I was like
holy cow. And I talked to other people and they're like, yeah,
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I think he's good, but man, he was like a
manager at Texas Tech. Last time, I like, he's a
head coach, Like he did a really good job at
Little Rock. But well, we'll see. I was blown away. Um,
but you're like a coaches coach. This is your entire
your kids are in coaching, its entire profession. What is
it about what he's been able to do that's allowed
him to be so incredibly successful in two places in
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such a short period of time. Well, it's it's a
great question. And um, I would say, first of all,
the first time I watched them practice, I said, this
enthusiasm phony, like they're just putting on the show because
I'm here today, you know. And I was wrong. Um,
I think because of the fact that I see First
of all, let's let's just move ahead to this game.
These two teams have the same DNA. Yeah, like just
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Chris Beard. I love Tom Izzo. Um, I talked to
him this week. He's Chris Bear is not getting now coached. Now.
Tom Izzo is not getting now coached either. Okay, but
my point is, we know Tom Mizzle's a Hall of Famer. Yep,
Chris Beard. You and I may remember him, but not
the average fan doesn't know much about him. Um twenty
year overnight sensation, learned how to coach at different spots
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along the way. D D two, D three Juco Minor League,
ten years with Bob Knight. Um and so here's what
he's got. He has a he has a system and
a style. Some of it some of it is Eddie Sutton,
Mr Riba coach Knight. You know, it's one big family
dug on the defensive end. Um and every every relentless
in their pursuit of perfection. And that means every drill,
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every practice, every workout, every shoot around, everything they do
is about doing it to an amazing degree of intensity
and accountability. We all dream about having teams that will
play as hard as they play Um. But he has
a vision in his head of how he wants the
team to play, and they match that vision. This team
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lost four seniors in the first round, pit they added
to graduate transfers. They and and a bunch of guys
that were fifty year guys and just role players and
a great player from wabbick Um. But he is a
he is a great basketball coach. The preparation that they
have for opponents is as good as anything I've seen
and I've seen a lot of good coaches. Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm,
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I'm with you across the board. Who do you think
wins that game? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know.
I don't do you don't, I don't know. I think
it's I've talked to both staffs and because I've seen
both teams in person. I saw Tech Tech back in
Kansas City twice and then I've seen Michigan State five
times in person, and they're both really impressed. And they're
not really impressive because they're super super talented, but they're
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mature guys, know their roles. They're very very physical. Well, yeah,
here's the point. Well, first of all, I've talked to
both staffs this week as well, and both staffs have
an enormous amount of respect for the other. Yeah, that
that we know. But here's the other thing. Two years ago,
Dearn de Aaron Fox gets beaten by North Carolina, right,
great freshman at Kentucky, crying like a baby. Um. Three
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days later, he signs with an NBA agent. I'm not
saying the crying was fake. It was not. He he
felt it. When you lose at Texas Tech and you
have a certain amount of guys back, or you lose
at Michigan State to Syracuse in Detroit last year and
everybody's back Virginia losing embarrassingly, there's a certain amount of
like we will be back, Yes, And that's what I think.
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All four of these teams have veteran guys, toughness, great coaching,
and uh, I don't know who's gonna win. I think
it's gonna be fun. Alright. Last thing you gotta run, yeah,
is there is Should there be a bigger discussion John
Morant instead of Ziemson, Yes, but only in this regard.
If I'm the Phoenix Suns and I've got eighton and
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I've got Booker, and I'm gonna probably still take Zion,
but I Am going to look long and hard to
make sure that before we take Zion, much like Gray Odin,
that we make sure he's healthy, that we feel like
his body's gonna hold out over ten or twelve years,
which I think it will. You have to do your
due diligence on John Moran before you take Zion, because
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John Moran, I believe, is the only other transcendent player
in this draft. They're the only two guys. I could
say that. I think they're both gonna be NBA All Stars. Um,
I don't feel that way about anybody. Now, somebody's gonna be,
but it's gonna be the sixteenth pick. Who's gonna get
better over ten years. I think you have to take
a long hook of John Morant, a long look at him.
I would still take Zion if everything's even health, et cetera.
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But John Moran, I think it's gonna be a great pro. Yeah.
I didn't agree with you. A great job. I've been
listening to in studio all tournament long. Likewise, where can
you where can your tail off? Enjoy some time off?
I think before before you get to the NBA Draft
and you get uh, you get your boys to to
connect with as well. Thanks so much for joining us.
Always enjoy it, Always to love talking to you. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leap
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Show week days at noon Eastern three pm Pacific. You
know what's what's interesting to me about Let's let's go
to the NBA real quick. We're here for the final four.
Good folks at Westwood One kind enough to give us
some space on radio row and UM, who do we
have joined us this hour. Remind me we have Lan
Krueger coming up. Alan Krueger is coming up. Of course
he's he's in the final four a couple of years ago.
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Man I got willified Nova. Won't bring that one up. Uh,
but won a game this year in the n C
A turned Fran McAffrey is gonna join us as well. Um,
I do want that about Lebron will do that this hour.
And the new struggles apparently to get dudes to be
on his in his new movie. But here's something that's
fed fascinating to me. Janice plays really well last night
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and the Bucks beat the six Ers last night one
to one. He has forty five points on only twenty
two shots, all right now. Uh. He also had forty
five thirteen rebounds, six assists, and two blocks. Excuse me,
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five five blocks and last night us let's just call
it a clean neck game. We've always called it. Uh,
it's called it a cologne game. It's like a clean
neck game. You know, when you have a big we
have a date, when you had a dance, you're gonna
be on TV. You gotta go eat your neck cleaned
up all right? Like so often times you like, what
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do I shave? I'm not shave. Like, dude, did you
get your neck cleaned up? You gotta go over your
boys house or go to your barber and have him
clean up your neck. You can't have you can't have
hairy neck. Now we're gonna take out a nice look
at lady. Well, that's what this is, is is that clean
neck game. And he stepped up his game. And of
course when they lost in overtime to Atlanta, he didn't
play in that game. But if you look at their
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last four wins in which Janice has played in Houston,
probably the second best team in the West, Clippers playoff
team the West Nets playoff team in the East, and
then the Sixers playoff team the East. Like stepping up
his level of play? Is he the best player in
the NBA? No? No, Like, let's not go crazy. He's
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incredibly versatile, can help you at both ends, seeming that
they play any position. He doesn't shoot it that well,
he does turn over a bit much. And because of
those two factors, especially the shooting, it's really hard for
him to be considered the very best player in the NBA. Now,
was he the best player? You can be the best
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player on a court and not be the best player
in the NBA. You can be the best player in
the court in a really competitive, high level NBA game
and not be the best player in the NBA. The
best player in the NBA earns that right based upon
continued success against the elite teams in clean neck or
Cologne games and in the playoffs. He has yet one
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a playoff series. I oh, yeah. By the way, if
the numbers tell you that you can't shoot, well, I
mean what we can do. He's really hard to guard
in the regular season because you can't make contact with him.
He can't be as physical with him as you can
in the postseason. So for the regular season, he's probably
the league's MVP, and he's trending the way of becoming
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the best player in the NBA, but he's not as
if yet. And Kevin Durant was the MVP of the
league back when he's in Oklahoma City. He didn't become
the best player in the league until he bested Lebron
James in the NBA Finals. Until you vanquish the enemy
before everybody else, we can't have you in that discussion.
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So that man doesn't mean it wasn't awesome, doesn't mean
he's not probably not the m v P. And and
you know, the two performances, the Houston performance the Sixers
performance may well win him the m v P. But
let's not go crazy when in the m v P
has never said that you're the best player in the league.
It just means you're the best player in your team
on one of the best teams the league, and you've
had the best year of anybody else. And I find
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no reason to argue a guy who statistically is the
most effective defensive player and one of the toughest covers
offense of him. Yes, rhyme is it? If you could
take Janice for the rest of his career or Durant
for the rest of his career, who would you Who
would you prefer? Howld Jonas I think he is like
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and Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant is um, Yeah, I'd
take gans. Kevin Durant's like thirty, right, Kevin Durant is thirty, yeah, thirty,
and he's out of foot I would I would take Janice.
Now here's the thing that I was really the impressive
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part about Janice was that game had had a little
chippiness to it, had a little nastiness to it, a
little competitiveness to it, and there there there have been
some that wonder does he have that gene like look?
Basketball at its core is a street game, is a
city game. And it's not that you know, Embi didn't
grow up, you know, playing in the streets. To me,
he's an African player, came over late in high school
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and uh, I mean gains Florida and then went to
So it's not like we we know how he's wired.
But you're just you wonder because Janice is such a
nice dude, right, does he have that mean streak in him?
Does he have that? You know? Remember when early in
the career, a few years ago, the Bucks played the
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Bulls in the first round series and they got blown
out in Game six at home by like forty points.
Janice was kicked out of that game because he just
bulldozed Mike Dunlevy Jr. On the sidelines, just ran up court,
didn't make any attempt to make a block or a
play on the ball or anything, and just ran them over.
So you kind of knew that that that streak was somewhere,
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but you just didn't know if it would be channeled
into that way or if it would be channeled into
six and five, which it was last night. That's what
was so amazing to me is you always knew, you know,
it's why he doesn't want to work out with Lebron,
because he doesn't want to be you know, BFFs with
all of his you know, top challengers. I think that's
in him. I just always have felt how was it
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going to be channeled into a performance. And last night
blocked in bead four times, like four of those five
blocks were on embiid. It was it was really really impressive.
Um I was. I was really impressed too. And and
it is my not necessary criticism is my wondering before
the game and impressions of him after the game fair
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Dan in that when when games get hippy, James getting nasty,
what would he do? That's probably the most impressive part
about last night's performance. Yeah, and he was he was
dominant on both ends of the court, and then we worry, like,
what's he gonna do with They're just gonna sit back
and let him shoot. Ben Simmons, who was guarding him
at you know, multiple times last night basically wouldn't would
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stand almost in the middle of the lane and just
wait for Jhannae to attack. And Jhanna still attacked and
went to the basket and made shots, actually hit a
big three in the fourth quarter when they were trading
buckets every every time that he needed to step up
last night, and when they needed him, when the Sixers
were making a run, he was there and and did
so without Eric Bledsoe. And know the Sixers didn't have
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Jimmy Butler, but I mean it was it was a
standout performance last night. Yeah, it was. It was really impressive.
And I also think that it exposed the seventies sixers, right,
the seventy Sixers can be temperamental, the seventies sixers can
be had. Um Like, we come away with great impressions
about the Bucks, but I actually think that we all
know the Celtics seem to have a mind game and
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great matchups against the Sixers, and now you start to
feel like the Bucks do as well. So yeah, look,
I'm excited for playoff basketball in the NBA because not
everything we've learned about about the regular season is is accurate,
uh for the playoffs, but some of what some of
the die has been cast and people in the league
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seem to know it. Yes, Ryan Music. So the two
m VP candidates again this year, James Harden who won
it last year, and then, be honest, that's what people
are arguing between now with those super is going forward,
who do you think is more likely to win an
NBA title? Janice because he's younger or Hardened because of
how much he carries that team, how close they got. Honest,
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be honest, because of what he does for the defensive end.
You don't think Harden and Chris Paul could get it
done more likely in the next couple of seasons, especially
if if everyone thinks that Durant's headed to the East
with Kyrie and the Knicks. Now that's who Jannis has
to compete with over the next five years, as opposed
to James Harden and the Rockets, who were close to
beating the Warriors last season, than if Durant leaves now
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they are probably the best team in the West. Um, yeah,
look Harden, obviously, it's it's just different, right, Like Hardens
an offensive weapon the likes of which very few have
ever been in the NBA, and he does fit with
the way the NBA is officiated now, um and he
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plays downhill, And but I look Jannest ye, Jannae helps
you have both ends. You don't have to hide him.
There's not a He's got the size to guard every position,
and he's got the length to guard smaller players, even
more so than Lebron ever had. I think it's Johnest
and I don't. I don't actually think it's close. My
only my two questions about you, honest were competitiveness, like
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what does he do? I still want to see, like
what does he do in a series if they're down,
you know, two games to none, three games to one
or whatever. And Canny continue to improve as a shooter.
As a shooter, it's not great. It doesn't look good.
It's not great three the line, it's not great. But
like Magic Johnson made himself into a three point shooter.
You know, Brook Lopez, his center made himself into a
three point shooter. If he can make himself into a
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mid thirties three point shooter, how do you guard that guy? How?
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n l V. Of course now the head coach of
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the n c A Tournament. UH they ultimately lost to Virginia,
the number one seed in their brackets. Lon Krueger spent
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how are you doing well? And thanks for bringing up
the Hardwood Classics game this morning. That kind of brings
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to light the real reason for you know, fighting this disease,
to see people like that are surviving cancer and and
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You started this back in your UNV right we did
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is a good hot site. Yeah, I mean you had
a chance to play at those two courses pretty awesome.
I mean, especially one where he saw you know, the same.
Of course we start Tiger versus Phil, Right, that's right. Um,
would you have beaten either Tagger? They weren't very good
that day, you could have taken one of them. I
don't think that would have been a question. They when
they're not very good, they're still better than everyone else.
They are. It's pretty good, pretty pretty good, pretty good
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stuff that ultimately took home, took on the money late, late, late,
late into the night in Vegas. Um. What makes Virginia
so so hard to beat? They They they're great at
what they do, you know, and every year they're good defensively,
and and this year again they they're very well coached,
they're very well drilled. They their team that when you
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finished playing and you think, well, we maybe could beat
those guys, you know we could, we could make those shots.
But everyone says that, and no one beats them. So
you know, they get you out of rhythm, they get
you out of think. And then on the other end,
this year they're probably one of the better offensive versions
of coach Bennetts teams in quite some time. So they're good.
They're really good. And coach Bennet does a great job,
and they're facing kind of a polar opposite matchup in
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an Auburn team who's lost one of the most talented
players but does like to play a more frenetic style
from them. From your experience, you know, the cliche is
it's harder to it's easier to slow a game down
than this speeding game up. Is that accurate in the
final four? Well, I think it's very accurate, no question.
The only way our we could speed it up as
if they make eight out of their first chance and
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and create a margin and then just keep making shots
as they've done in other games so far. They've played great,
but Virginia is very adept at getting the game and
the pace they want. They do it on the offensive
and as much of the defensive vand because they're very patient,
they'll turn down an okay shot to get a better shot,
maybe two or three times in one possession, So they're
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they're very good at it. Blon Krueger joining us in
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we
are watching you know, look you had a one and
done last year, and Trey Young, who's having an outstanding
season and you so you're you're left with this kind
of Okay, Look, if I don't play the kid, you
know you can transfer or you could go pro anyway.
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And if I do play him, you have to accept
apped some of the flaws of it and integrating him
in with your younger players. Like, it's not it's not
an easy thing. So I guess the question is, and
we look at Michigan State, they lost two lottery picks
and they're here. Um, there are many people who thought
your team was maybe a little bit better and more
cohesive at the end of the year in spite of
the fact you didn't have the NBA talent and you
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had last year with Trey Young. Um, heck, you look
like at Texas Tech. Now they still have a first
round draft pick, but they lost a lottery pick on
one and done from last year four stars and they're
back here, Like, how does it? Can Canada affect your
recruiting in recruiting guys that might be at one and
done considering so many teams have been successful not having
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one and dones, Oh, without question? That can you can
kind of make cages for whatever, because there's the cases
where the one and done do well, of course, and
in there's cases where the older guys do well and
that's more of the trend this here. But yeah, when
you think about you know, the age of Texas Tech, Uh,
the matur to you a Virginia, Michigan State, you know, Auburn.
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You know, you've got a lot of veteran guys there
that played a lot of minutes and played very well together.
So the one and does maybe don't quite have that
ability or time to develop into that type of team,
but uh, they can be awfully good in their own right.
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of of Lon Krueger. If there's one thing about
college basketball you would change, what would be? Oh, that's
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a good question. It's uh, you know, you know, I
think the the direction we're headed, I think they should
have the opportunity to go out of high school if
they want to. Uh. The unfortunate part of that if
they do, you know, right now, there's not a provision
for if they make a mistake, then they can't come
back and get your education on scholarship. So I'd like
to see some kind of a hybrid there where if
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they go and get the bad advice coming out that
they still have that five year window to come back
and play college basketball, you know, within within five years.
Well you got the five year window. Now when you
come out of high school, you know to play four
so so, but but okay, but what happens if you
play in the NBA, Like you can go back and
go to college and playing college play in the NBA.
Probably aren't going back. I'm thinking about the one. But
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don't make it like they thought they were gonna make it. No,
that's a fascinating idea. I think there's something that we
could do with that, because you know, just because the
kids gets bad advice coming out of high school, he's
seventeen years old, why not give him some opportunity to
reclaim those maybe last two or three years of eligibility
and uh a good start education. So I'd love to
see something like that. In my thought would be a
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little different. My thought would be, I actually think, look,
I I I don't I don't know. But the ability
to come straight out, I I don't think there's anything
wrong with having guys stay in even two years. I
would I would offer some sort of could you could
you allow them to be around NBA programs in the
summer right where you don't have in some almost like
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a summer internship, you know where you could go because
when now, when I played, UM you were allowed to
go work out with NBA teams as long as you
paid your own way to and from, and I don't.
I didn't get per diem either. So one summer I
went and I was with the Portland Trailblazers in like
a mini camp. And it was mind blowing one because
I was like, Damn, those guys are really, really, really good.
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I have I have a lot of work to do.
But also it gave them a chance to see me
and to give me some advice and to see how
the NBA game was different and how NBA guards we
were kind of different. I don't know. I just I
feel like once they go pro, they're gone. Because my
fear is maybe not fear, but realization is that we
all think the five or ten kids that could get
drafted will get drafted. The problem is there's gonna be
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fifty six kids that put their name in and go
straight out of high school. That and that is the problem,
no question about it. And uh, and that's why I say, uh,
it needs to be some provision to maybe let them
recoup some some educational opportunities after they learned that they're
not quite ready for what they'd hope to be. Doug
Gollip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Lon Krueger is
(36:55):
is our guest. Um, Chris Beards turned this program around,
and it's interesting in with Texas Tech. Texas Tech, there's
a little bit of Oklahoma to it, where you look
at the coaches at Oklahoma. He has amazing basketball coaches
that have been at OU. You know, from Billy Tubbs
to going back to John McCloud obviously in Kelvin Samson. Uh, yourself,
Um and I used to be some big time coaches.
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Texas Techas had Tubby, They've had Bob Knight. Um, even
James Dickey had him well last two games last year
at the Southwest Conference. That Billy Gillespie, who obviously some
personal stuff obviously was his his ultimate downfall. But but
Beard has been able to take them to a higher level.
You've coached against him now for a couple of years.
What do you see. What's the secret sauce to what
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he's able to do. Yeah, I don't you know, It's
just I think commitment and focus. It seems like he's
got guys that are just totally bought in, Uh, take
a lot of pride in what they're doing. Uh, they
get from each position exactly what they want out of
each position. Of course, coach Beard is a big part
of that, and I think, uh, you know, you've got
you know, even Covert of course the first rounder when
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he when wherever you decided to come out. Um, the
other guys, the other guys are are good, solid players.
They're not uh you know, I think Mooney has had
a really good year and made a big difference for
them already really makes big shots. Uh you know, Owen
has been a big transfer for them that blocked shots.
Frances comes off the bench and very physical, corporate comes off.
They've got They've got some good pieces that I think
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respect what they can do, and they do exactly that.
And I think that's always impressed me from a coaching perspective.
The other thing, though, you mentioned that to try to
a couple of grad transfers, right, but that Mooney and
Terry Gohens is they're able to get to grad chancellors
who totally bought in their roles. They both you know
and and Mooney wasn't a high major guy air Force
to South Dakota. Whatever you took to grad transfers that
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I mean, Look, you don't have to say it. I'll
say it for you. Like they weren't they didn't be
They weren't really big twelve coll of the player. There's
a reason they were playing at lower levels. Um, how
how hard is it we only talk about like I've
read where they're talking about not allowing you know, you'll
lose that scholarship if a kid doesn't graduate in your
first year or whatever. We only talk about the success
stories with the grad transfers. How hard is it to
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you don't have a lot of time to make a
decision and you see a guy in the transfer portal,
decide do I want to take somebody who's transferring up
a level? I mean in terms of understanding the player
you're gonna get. Yeah, And it's difficult. You don't have
a lot of time. You know, our two guys actually
didn't didn't have the success that you know that the
Mooney and you knowers do, but they actually filled a
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need for us from a depth standpoint, you know, in
the end um. But it's become it's become another recruiting
season in and of itself. You know, there'll be uh
hundreds of guys that uh that are grad transfers this year,
and they'll be recruited like crazy as of you know,
last week on onto uh you know, the rest of
the spring. So's it because it's a big part of
programs right now, it's a very important part of it.
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I'm not sure it's a great part of our game,
you know, because a lot of programs are deprived of
a guy that've invested in for three or four years
and now he's gone in what would be his most
productive year. So I'm not sure it's great, but it's
uh probably a part of it that's here to stay.
What's it like to have your son and your staff?
It's been great, It's been great. He's got a passion forward.
He loves it, uh loves uh the game preparation, the
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practice preparation, the workouts. Uh. You know, he's grown up
with it. So he has a great time. Does it
make you want to do it longer? Or does it
make you want to you know, hand it to him
and let let him like, what what is the what
is the honor when you come to work and you
see him because because um, you know, I know some
coaches are like, look, it's so enjoyed like this, I
get to spend all this time with my son. I
never would before. On the other hand, look, you have
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you have a life, you have grandkids, you have interest.
What's it? How does it affect you and your desire
to work? I think I think initially gives you a
little uh a little uh renewed pep. I guess if
you if you will, I mean every year it's it's
fun because whoever you're with your son or not. You know,
the challenges helped that be that year be a great
experience for your guys. But when he came to it,
(40:58):
the unov the player in that it year, you know,
that was kind of rejuvenating and the same thing as
the part of our staff the last couple three. So
but he loves it, needs to have a great time
and uh uh you know married last May. So new
new new excitement in his life. Great stuff. Lon Krueger,
head coach of Oklahoma. Remember the twelfth annual Coaches Versus
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