Foul or no foul - Part 2 - The Doug Gottlieb Show

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happened on Saturday night in the n c A tournament
and if he thought it was a good call against Auburn.
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would be, since no one else seems to know. There's

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an interesting NBA player's poll. Nick Bob is gonna join
me talk about tonight's game, but let's let's start with
Saturday night. Um. Look, I'm I'm a former player, I'm
the son of a coach, and I do some coaching
in my own right. And one of the things that
I tell any kid who plays for me, whether it
was when I coached in Israel or I coached fourth

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and fifth graders, is that you cannot worry about the FETE.
Is not your job to worry about the officials. You're
gonna get some good calls, you're gonna get some bad calls,
and and hopefully when you're uh, when you're on the
green of your basketball career, you'll be able to hold
up a sign that says under par by by that,

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I mean you don't want to be you don't. If
you think of it honestly, you'll think, all right, I
got a couple of really good calls really helped me,
and I got a couple of bad calls that winning
if worst case scenario you're at par or slightly over par.
Bob Alvano is a really talented radio host. Of course
is his late brother was an incredible basketball coach in

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his own right. And Bob Valvano he he actually keeps
every scorecard from every round of golf he's ever played,
and he wants to at some point late in his
life have a caddy walk around that says like Valvano
like three over par, like whatever. His career over par is.
I think in terms of sports, you'd like to think

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you end your career at even par, maybe a little
bit under. So, yeah, you get some calls, they go
for you. Yeah, you get some calls and get to
go against you. The difference in this one is I'm
going to decide a national champion. And the difference in
this one is it's the second straight game where a
violation has occurred VI Virginia and hasn't been called against Virginia.

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Here's the national championship deciding play in the final four
Saturday night. Take a listen. Jeral slaps the basketball looking
Perence find s guy in the left corner for three
in the winning off for no good and the Tigers
clawed back the waite. Was there a foul? The clock

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is at zero's fund Auburn foul. The shooter six tenths
of a second, leafl Prefoid throws it in Caughton Brown
and Virginia sixty three Auber sixty two. The Cavaliers will
play for their first national championship. That's Kevin Coogler on

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Westwood One. This is the doug Otlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. UM, I will tell you that we were
seated our tickets, my son Hayes and I were on
the fifty yard line right at mid court. We are
probably thirty rows back, which are really good seats. And
the play occurred in the exact opposite side of the floor,

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and no one saw the foul. No one actually heard
the whistle blow because of the kind of pandemonium in
the arena, and there was a good ten second delay
before you realize Noah foul had been called and again,
Remember it's a The domes are a different kind of
setup where both benches are below the level of the floor,

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so only the coach is up at court level. But
both teams players had started to creep up onto the
court and the album airs for a second, celebrated, and
then realized that their celebrations were for not will It's
it's fair to give credit to Kyle Guy who knocked
down three really hard free throws, And then I thought,
answered questions as honestly as you could, it's fair to

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say that there was technically a foul. The problem with
it is you missed a double dribble that was right
in front of two officials on the on the very
previous possession. And while Auburn shouldn't have, Jared Harper shouldn't
have med a free throw. If he did, those three
free throws would have simply caused over time. Um, they

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shouldn't have run under Kyle Guy. And by by definition,
I have no disputing that the definition of a foul.
And for years coaches have tried to say, protect the shooter,
don't let a guy run underneath the shooter. The problem
is that's actually how Virginia plays defense. For forty minutes

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is unnecessarily running under guy, but as you go up,
they body up under you. This is how most really
good teams play in college basketball. They play man and man,
and honestly, it's how I teach my kids to play,
not necessarily going up underneath somebody when they're jumping, but
using their body and not their hands. There there's a
point of emphasis over the last five years in college

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basketball where we call it freedom of movement. But really
what they want is they want to take kind of
the hand play, the hand checking or the chucking of guys.
They want to take that out of the game. And
coaches that are smart, and Jay Wright is really smart,
and Tony Bennett is really smart, and John b Line
is really smart. You look at what they tell you

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can do, and they say, well, that means you can
do something else, and what you can do is play
with your body. Matter of fact, Texas Tech last year
gave Villanova their toughest game, and we had Chris Beard
on the show and he talked about how, hey, all
off season long, they practice what they call Werenova shots,
which our guys as you go up to finish, they
push shop and they kind of run up under you.

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They run up under you. So by definition is that
a foul? I guess, yeah, sure, But it didn't hit
his wrist, It didn't affect the jump shot. It simply
affected him when he was landing and coming down. Maybe
it affected him and not knowing if the guy was
underneath him. But that's how Virginia plays, and they never
get called for fouls. So no, I wouldn't have called
a foul there. And I'm not disputing that a foul did,

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in fact, by a letter of law, did exist. And
then the n c A does itself no favors by
only commenting on that play and not the misdouble dribble
because the miss double dribbles an non call and we
don't comment on non call. So wait, wait, wait, if
you if you hold on on a miss double dribble,

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you're not going to comment because it wasn't called. If
that wasn't called a foul, you wouldn't have had a
comment on it. It doesn't make any sense. And oh yeah,
by the way, here we go on the misjudgment calls.
And what's going to become the n b A, I
mean the NFL. The NFL is gonna be misjudgment calls. Okay,
so that's like past interference and if in fact occurred

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and by in slow motion, it did incur. But a
lot of times at the end of games, we let
things go and we let the players make plays, and
you've got to finish through contact. That's what they tell
you at the rim. Like if he's driving to the
rim in the exact same contact occurs, it is not
called a foul, no way. But again, we could go
back in the NFL and review that play, but we

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couldn't review the miss double dribble. We want a perfect game,
we want a perfectly officiated game, but games are officiated
completely imperfect imperfectly, and the more in which we open
up to try and create perfection, the worst it's going
to be. And the more pronounced the replays are gonna be,

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or the delays by replay. So look, I don't think
it's not a dirty championship game or champ Beach a
run potentially by Virginia. It's nothing short of miraculous. And
here's a team that was eliminated from the n c
A tournament in the first round. Is the first one
seed to lose to a sixteen seed that was just

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last year. That wasn't like a couple of years ago.
Was just last year. And to suffer that humiliating defeat,
to turn around win the a c C and then
get to the Final four, get to a national championship
nothing short of incredible. But in the previous game, when
they were down two points and they missed a free

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throw Ty Jerome, it was a lane violation on the
misfree throw wasn't called. And in this game, a double
dribble by Tie Jerome wasn't called. Do you need some
luck and some fortune, sure, but man, they've got more

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than their share, and now all of a sudden are
they Are they a team of destiny for the records.
As much as I believe in protecting the shooters, I
would not have called a foul on that play, not
because I don't think a foul occurred, but because one,
that's how Virginia plays, and two, in that particular instance,

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I think it was sold a little bit extra by
Kyle Guy. I don't like guys that I hate the
Reggie Miller move to kick out the legs move. I
don't think it's the end of the world, but I
do think that a championship deciding play where the shot
was actually not affected in a style of defense the
other team plays. And while two wrongs don't make a right,

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if you've actually played basketball, you'll know. Oftentimes, say a
ball is deflected off of one team, but the other
team committed a foul which led to the deflection. Sometimes
we just even it up by by giving the basketball
to the team that it should be Rightfully, there's even
if it didn't go off their hand, and we're left
with a lot of confusion, a lot of discussion. I

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generally think that most people who played, most people would
probably agree with me. I put a clip of the
two thousand and It was a two thousand and three
national championship game where Kansas lost to Syracuse. If you
watch the last second shot, Syracuse ran into the shooter
after after released, the basketball wasn't called, wasn't reviewed, nobody

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talked about it. But because a call was made, suddenly
it's made more pronounced, and we have forgotten that generally,
you let things go at the end of the game
and you let the players decide. Fox Sports one college
hoops analyst and a co host and a host here
on Fox Sport, Trader Nick Bob joins the show. What

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does he think would he have called if he was
standing right there, would he have called a foul? And
then of course we'll get into tonight Texas Tech versus
Virginia what most people will deem as a super super
boring national championship game, But those of us are in basketball, like, look,
this is the way it looks, this is the way
it's gonna be played, and this is the way that

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that you can use the rules to your benefit too.
Great coaches and great defensive teams that play basketball as
it it's taught. Nick Bob joins the show. Upcoming next
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Nick foul, No foul? Would you have You're standing there
and you're right there in the baseline, would you have
called it? I'd like to think I would have, just
because if you you would think, if you're official, you
would adhere to how the rule is written, and technically,
as Gene Territory laid it out, you you have to

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allow the shooter to be able to land, and in
that regard, it was a foul. I think the hard part, though,
is when you frame it in the sense of, let's
say there wasn't a whistle. Are we all up in
arms like we were at the end of the NFC
Championship game? Now I get that that was like the
most egregious no call maybe in the history of sports,
given the stage. I don't know if we are I

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don't know if we're all sitting there going, oh my gosh,
can you believe they didn't call a foul on guys
three in the corner? But at the end of the day,
it was a foul, And for me, I don't know.
I don't know where you're at, Doug, I'm curious get
your take on this. Like, as a player, I feel
like there's this understood thing at the end of games
where it's like, you know, the whole reft swallowing the whistle.
To me, all that stuff is away from the ball,

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like rebounding, fighting through a screen, all that stuff. Like
that stuff is a war. Anybody has ever been on
the floor on the final possession, It is a war
away from the ball. But on the ball you want
to think that the shooters and the ball handlers can
still get protected. So ultimately I think they got it right.
But you know, it wasn't necessarily just clear as day. Uh,

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if it wouldn't have been called with people being upset,
how bad was the misdeuvil dribble from your perspective. I didn't.
I didn't go crazy in the moment. And so that's
something I always want to think about, is in the
moment that I freak out and I didn't. I think
I was maybe just like the ref caught up in Okay,
Auburn's gonna foul. They got fouls to give. When are
they going to foul? Are they gonna let Jerome go

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down the floor a little bit? And you know, in
the moment, I don't think I noticed that it went
off his foot. Uh So I don't want to be
disingenuous and act like I knew it in the moment
was a brutal call. But I'm also not a paid
official on the biggest stage of college basketball that's paid
to see that and make that call. But and they
were also they were also in position to make it.

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It wasn't I understand that you could say, hey, there's
two officials. One of the officials, you're you're turning your head,
you're running down the floor, you're trying to get in
position right, and there is That's the hard part about
about eyewitnesses is sometimes you're just out of position, but
there's another the trail official is looking right at the
play and look like he saw it and just hesitated

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for a second and didn't make the call. And you know,
to the same like, hey, look, if we're gonna be
a letter to the log guy, that's fine, And I
agree with you, Like there's a lot of people that
missed it. They're not officials, those guys are. That's one
I'm sorry. You can't miss right, Yeah, you know, Unfortunately,
that's the thing. I mean, when you're on that stage
and your job is to officiate the game, you can't

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miss that call. And so it's it's frustrating. You talk
about back to back, just gut punch plays for Auburn,
unbelievable miss double dribble and then you know the foul
on the three. Just just remarkable sequence of events that
leads to Virginia standing Nick Bob joining us in the
Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. They survived for

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a second second straight time. Just remember, I'll tell you
the thing that's lost is Tony Bennett takes out tied
Jerome with four and a half minutes ago with four fouls.
Like the dude, your team commits the least amount of
fouls of any team in the tournament and you have
a veteran player who's not going to commit his fifth foul,
and the team totally lost momentum. And that's how Auburn

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got the lead. I mean, they survived in spite of Tony.
I think if you asked him, he would probably admit
as such, Yeah, and it's always hard. It's a it's
a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation
for coaches at times, But so many coaches, I think
don't understand that there are certain moments in the game
where the game is going to be decided in the
next to two minutes to three minutes, where whether or

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not it's even going to be close in the final
nineties seconds. So you can sit there and say, boy,
we need tied Jerome at the end of the game. Well,
if you haven't on the floor for the next two
or three minutes, it's gonna be this thing's gonna be
on ice and he's gonna be chilling on the bench
in the final ninety second. So I'm with you. I
would have kept Jerome on the floor, not only because
of of how important the next few minutes we're gonna be,

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but as everything you just pointed out, Doug. I mean,
Virginia doesn't foul tied. Jerome is a really smart guy.
I don't think he would have picked up his uh
his fifth foul. And and don't kid yourself, that was
that was the sequence, man. I mean that opened the
door for Auburn to get it rolling. And then Virginia
got a little bit stuck on offense, and before you
know it, that thing got went. You went from a
nine point game or a ten point game, all of a

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a sudden, Auburn was in the driver's seat. It was.
It was a crazy, crazy turnaround. How do they match
up with Texas Tech? I really like Texas Tech tonight?
I think, uh, I think when you when you think
about how matchups are everything, and for the way Texas
Tech is built defensively, I think they're built to eat
up Virginia and their offense with some of the pin

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downs and flares, I think they're gonna gonna switch a
lot of those and press out. The other thing that
they want to do. They want to heat up the ball.
They're gonna get under Clark. Uh. The one thing they'll
also do is they'll keep the ball on the sideline. Doug.
You know, that they like to keep it on the
side and when they're doing a lot of their offense
Virginia that is, they want the ball in the middle
of the floor. So I think Clark is gonna have

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a tough time seeing things. And when you're a team
that can switch and press out, you turn teams into
one on one teams. And I don't think Virginia is
built to beat you one on one. They need screens,
they need pin downs, they need flares to to get
an advantage, and so not. Ultimately, I think there's gonna
be a close game. I'd be really surprised at the
you know, the under four minute time out that if

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this isn't a one possession game, and uh and and
and that's just because of how these two teams are built.
But I just think the way Texas deck is built defensively,
I really feel like the Red Raiders are gonna eat
up Virginia's offense. Um, what what do you make of
Chris of Matt Mooney and his offensive explosion in the tournament? Like,

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I love it. Obviously, he's an older guy. He's started
Air Force and then went to South Dakota and he's
been really well coached at both places. But it's fascinating
to watch him kind of pick apart these teams in
the n c A tournament. It is, I mean, and
you know there you better believe there's a lot of
low major players and mid major players saying himself, See

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if I come on the big stage, I could kill
two And you just never know how it is you
and I talked to your podcast Doug, like, a lot
of it is situation. A lot of it is how
you're viewed by your coaching staff and your and your teammates.
You can tell that Chris Beard has a lot of
confidence in Mooney. You can tell his teammate's got a
lot of confidence in Mooney, and they allow for him
to be aggressive and go make plays. Uh and and

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he's kind of clear in a good rhythm right now.
And it's it's a pretty cool situation for for a
guy in Mooney where And it's gonna be interesting to
see what the n c A does. They've slid the
grad transfer structure under the microscope now. Now obviously a
lot of these guys like Mooney or Tarikoen's they come
in there there for a year as a graduate student

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knowing full well that you cannot get your graduate degree
in just one year. But it's kind of like a
reward for Hey, you've done all the right things, you've graduated,
we're gonna give you the freedom. It'll be interesting to
see if you'll see that kind of go away in
college basketball, because that's become a big part of the
transfer market and how teams kind of fill holes when
you lose a Zaire Smith, for instance, to the NBA

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that i'd imagine a year ago Chris Beer didn't think
would happen. Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting we only
look at I logates. I wonder what you what your
opinion of it is. I'll share with you mine. Uh.
It destroys lower low major teams, right, just clearly destroys them.
And there's this idea that people have in mind, like, oh, well,

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you just get a guy who's the best player in
a low major team, and of course they're gonna be
really good at a high major. And that hasn't really
occurred nearly as often as the opposite. I'll give you.
I'll give you two guys who played for Oklahoma. Right.
They had Miles Reynolds who came over from Pacific Um
and then what's the little guard they had from They
came from from Maine. Um Aon Aaron CALIXTI like the

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two of them, and we're very good. And you know,
they end up destroying Pacific and Maine wasn't good, but
may Maine not a coaching change. And now they know
Man again has no players remaining. Uh. John Kremo who
comes from Albany. Right, he's the best player in his league,
or one of the best players in his league. He
transfers from Albany to Villanova. Ain't not good enough to

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play at Villanova, and so Villanova, you know, he signs
him and uses him. But in the meantime it destroys Albany.
It's like, we really are destroying those low major programs,
taking away their their their best player. On the other hand,
you do and reward a kid for doing things the
right way and graduating um on time or early. Yeah,
it's there's so many different layers to it. You want

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to be in the business of rewarding what we say
we want out of college basketball. The guy, you know,
takes care of business on and off the court, he
goes to class and graduates. You want to say, all right,
my man you did your thing, Go ahead and go
wherever you want to go and ball out for your
final year. But I totally agree where it just decimates
some of these low major, mid major schools where they
just get cherry picked with their top players, and it's

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tough for them to build those veteran teams that ultimately
that's how a Pacific or a Rice or you know,
even like a Saint Jose State Brandon Clark, Ryan Welich,
those dudes like went off and helped Xavier and helped
help Gonzaga like it. It hurts some of those teams
ability to build a team that's ultimately gonna make a run.

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But I just there's a part of me that has
a hard time, you know, restricting some of these guys
after What if when they transfer, they have to sit
a here, so you get six so you get six?
Uh for people to understand that the expression normally you
get five for four, which means you get five years
to complete four years of playing. What if the reward

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is you get a six year but still just a
fourth year to compete. I wouldn't I wouldn't be opposed
to that, and but the reality is, you know what
that would do. That would deter a lot of guys
from wanting to go do it, because I because I
still you know, the whole transfer situation. Uh you know,
I was a guy that transferred. Um, everybody transfers for
different situation reasons, and we tend to paint with a
broad brush. I mean, I think that's a little bit unfair.

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But I I don't mind the whole rule that you
have to sit out, you know, because I do think
there does need to be some sort of deterrent from
guys leaving, And there is no greater deterrent than sitting
on the bench for a year. Nobody wants to do that.
Everybody wants to play. So I do think that there
has to be some sort of happy medium. I don't
mind that. Uh what you what you throw out there,
and and if you have forced guys to sit out

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and then give him another year, but I just I
don't want him to be in the business of restriction
when guys take care of their class work. Who do
you like tonight? I love the Red Raiders, man, I
think Uh, I think ultimately both these teams are gonna
have to make plays at the end the shot clock.
That is obvious. Uh, and I think between Mooney and

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I think Culver, I like their their late shot clock
playmakers a little bit more. I do think the status
at ric Owen's is going to be important, you know,
with their ability to switch things and then protect the rim.
But yeah, I just I think Texas Tech has built
to gobble up Virginia and what they do offensively. So
I think Chris Beard will be drinking some Cooers lights,
bud Lights, Miller lights, whatever he he pounds tonight after

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they cut down nets. Who do you think the u
c l A head coach? I was just I was
gonna hope you you could tell me this is remarkable,
absolutely remarkable. I thought that Rick Barnstein potentially made sense,
uh you know, without the massive buyout that that U
c l A. I don't know how they didn't understand
this situation. With Jamie Dixon. I think Jamie Dixon's a

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really good coach. I think he's one of those guys
that would have been like, you know, coach Altman. Dana
Altman was like Oregon's eighth or ninth choice, and look
what they landed into. I mean, a guy that's gone
the Final four's and done a good job. I think
Jamie Dixon could have been similar in that mold, but
I don't know what you tell me. I think they
end up waiting on the two guys coach to night.
I I do think that there's there's something about Beard

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they're not into, which is stupid to me. Um, but uh,
I think it wouldn't stun me. If Billy Donovan ends
up being the guy. Wouldn't have stun me. You know,
if they end up playing this kind of winning game
without trying to play a waiting game, don't get what
they want to go. You know, let's just wait a
week or two and see what happens with Billy Donovan,
which I think ultimately could be like a Dane Altman
where you end up getting unbelievable coach even though you

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you completely screwed up the search. I totally agree. I
think Billy Donovan will be a home run all things considered.
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It is college basketball's national championship. Tonight, Texas Tech takes
out of Virginia in Minneapolis at Eastern time. Multiple reports
saying is Doug and Nick were just talking about the
Tennessee men's basketball coach Rick Barnes deciding out whether to
stay with the balls or go to u c l A.
Virginia Tech introduced former Wofford and coach Mike Young is
the Hokeyes new men's basketball coach today. He leaves Wofford

(27:35):
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you guys see this Antonio Brown back and forth with
a fan basically um. Antonio Brown tweeted out, you know

(28:44):
that you gotta kind of keep your emotions in check
type deal, which is funny, right like the ultimate irony
pot meat kettle and Donio Brown telling others about keeping
their emotions in check. Anyway, So um, someone quote retweeted

(29:04):
him that Juju Smith Schuster was the Pittsburgh Steelers m
v P. Antonio Brown tweeted back, emotion the boy fumbled
the whole postseason in the biggest game of the year.
Everyone went blind too, too busy making guys famous enough

(29:26):
reality these days? By the way, checked check the list um.
Antonio Brown then on his Instagram page, did what look?
I think this is dirty business. Direct messages are not
to be posted. They're just not like that is private
and confidential. But in this particular case, this is where
Antonio Brown he didn't even know how he makes himself

(29:48):
look even worse. There's a private message from Juju smith
Schuster when he left college. What's up by by I'm
receiver at the University of Southern California. I appreciate your work.
You're a great man on and up the field. Do
you have any tips that can help my game to
the next get my game to the next level. Thanks man.
That's Juju smith Schuster. It comes across as respectful of

(30:10):
both him as a player and as a grown man
asking for help. Antonio Brown thinks by putting this out
on his Instagram page like look, me and Juju are good. Meanwhile,
Juju smith Schuster tweeted that you know, like, hey, I
was nice to you regardless I thought we were boys.

(30:30):
Antonio Brown is so far off the reservation he has
no ability to be uh introspective He just doesn't. He
doesn't see how the world sees him, which is not
just selfish, he's gonna maniacal, um even vindictive, but the

(30:52):
type of guy that would forget about biting the hand
that fed him when he was in Pittsburgh. This is
a guy that will turn on any buddy, even someone
who handles themselves the plumb. As as as Juju Smith
Schuster has, I think we can all conclude Antonio Brown,
super thin skinned, bad guy, very very talented, super skin thinned,

(31:16):
thin skinned bad dude. Why would you possibly think about
throwing Juju Smith Schuster under the bus? Why would you
do that to make yourself look better? And then when
called out on it by Ju, He's like, look, Juju,
he's always looked up to me. We're good. No, you're

(31:38):
not good. That was before he knew who you really were.
And even before you know you start tweeting at random people.
Now we know who you really are. Of course, Juju's
done with you. The Steelers already knew. That's why they
were done with you. That's why I've told you for
a long time. The Steelers have chosen character and culture

(32:00):
over talent. No one's disputing Antonio Brown's talent, but his
character strikes can can strike at the heart of the
culture of a team. This is interesting if you look
guys with higher yards per attempt then David Carr in
two thousand eighteen, Nick Derek Card They said David Derek Carr. Sorry,
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(32:25):
higher career yards per attempt than David Carr, Marcus Mariotta,
Andy Dalton, Eli Manning, Ryan Tannehill, case Keenum. He's tied
with Josh McCown, Blake Bortles, and Joe Flacco. He's basically
being accused of being captain checked down, getting the rid
of the ball quickly and not pushing the ball down
the football field. And guests, who's going to be opened

(32:46):
down the football field or Debora covered down the football field?
Be Antonio Brown. This is going to be a fascinating
experiment to see how it plays out. NBA players thinks
James Harden should be the m v P over Janice.
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I got to play in the n ABC All Star
Game or a celebrity All Star Game or something. Um,
Charles Barkley was my coach. Shack was the other team's coach.
You do forget how big Shack was. And what's the

(33:49):
other part that I think most people people will go like, man,
Shacks huge. What they don't remember, or maybe they they
never knew, is it wasn't just that he was big.
It was that he was freaky athletic for being big,
but pretty cool experience for that's really Honestly, I think
the first time my son's ever seen me play basketball
in a uniform. He's ten years old, So uh yeah,

(34:15):
that's ah, it's crazy, absolutely nuts, but it was. It
was fun. Uh hit Wally Serbiac for the game winning three.
We were playing against Turtle and some other celebs. Danielle
Marshall was hitting three after three after three. The coach
at Central Connecticut State can't move, but can those guys

(34:36):
can still shoot the basketball. Let's get to a game.
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(35:00):
what's the game, Dug? The game today is big deal,
little deal, no deal? Alright, big deal, little deal or
no deal that Rick Barnes is reportedly deciding on whether
to stay at Tennessee or go to u C l Ah,
that's a big deal, right, Like Rick Barnes from Clemson Providence,
Clemson Texas getting fired at Texas and like I mean

(35:22):
I have Texas thing fell apart. I I agree with
him that. I mean, when they fired him, nobody was like, man,
that's and I like Rick a great deal. I don't
know if Rick Barnes at this point his life wants
the u c l A truly wants the u c
l A thing now, Like the Tennessee job was seen
as kind of retirement gig. But he is more than
exceeded anybody's reasonable expectations. Get into within one play of

(35:45):
an Elite eight that said, it's a pretty big deal
to get a chance to coach at Texas and at
u c l A in the same career. Big deal,
little deal or no deal. That An anonymous poll of
about one NBA players by The Athletic revealed that fuel
James Harden should be the NBA's m v P well thirty,

(36:06):
Janis and Teakompo. The players have in fact spoken I
value I truly value their opinion. Like there's more in
these in these unnamed polls, you know, these anonymous polls,
which I think are maybe more interesting, but it is
in fact that close. My deciding factor would be that
Janice helps you so much on defense, and that's helped
them have the best record in the NBA. I do

(36:28):
think that James Harden is a better player right now,
and that the fact that Janice has limitations offensively in
the playoffs is a little bit of what they're commenting on,
and they value that the playoffs from last year. But
the spread is not so great that it makes me
want to change my vote. I vote Janice. I don't
disrespect people that vote James Harden. Big deal, a little

(36:51):
deal or no deal that the Celtics ad Jason Tatum
and Marcus Smart leave last night's lost to Orlando with
minor injuries. Tatum dealing with the shin contusion, Smart with
an oblique bruise, expecting to be okay, but they're dinged
up a little bit. Um, let's see here. I think

(37:11):
it's a big deal. Uh, I would go, I would
go a little deal. You know, Look, we're still a
week out from the playoffs and a shin contusion is
not the end of the world. But it's not a
good thing to start piling up injuries. He who is
the least injured, he was the least injured, usually performs

(37:32):
the best in the playoffs. Big deal, little deal or
no deal? That Johnny Man's yell kind of made this
announcement earlier on Fox Sports Radio on the Dan Patrick Show.
Good Morning, Johnny, How are you? Good morning, my friend?
How are you? I got a little bit to day before.
I actually I actually go by John these days, so
you know, I'm just kind of turning over the page
and moving forward a little bit. So it's no more

(37:53):
Johnny Manzel, It's John Manzel. Is that a big deal,
a little deal or no deal? Um? I actually think
that's a big deal. He wants to he wants to,
you know, grow and mature, Like we're all kind of
looking to grow up and mature and change our lives
are only so uh yeah, I think it's a big
deal that he's he's getting It looks like he's getting divorced,

(38:15):
which sucks. I mean, I don't I don't know anybody
goes like man, that's awesome to go through a divorce,
especially one that becomes public. But you know, if you
say that was me then and this is me now
and I've grown up and matured, I'm cool with it.
John Ramos, when did you change from Johnny to John?
Last week? Okay last week? Big deal? A little deal
or no deal that. With thunderstorms in the area August,

(38:38):
the National Golf Club has been closed for the day
at the Masters, I'd say it's a little deal. I mean,
obviously any sort of prep round is important, but I'm
also reasonable to tell you that that it's not like
it's gonna be the last prep round that they'll have
and they can reopen. And if it does rain, and
if it from rains and pours and it gets soft, um,

(38:59):
that's I've see bigger for the long hitters, and there's
no rough there. But I don't think it's the end
of the world. Most of these guys have played Augusta
in the past and it's not like they changed the
setup year to year. It's probably sorry. I was going
to add something on the show. I was just gonna
quickly say it's a big deal for the patrons who
maybe if he got there a little late, then you

(39:20):
spend a hundred you know, I shouldn't say a hundred,
but a lot of money on the tickets, because it's
way more than a hundred. Your day cut short at
the Masters. Oh, well, would you recommend it? Yes, nine
million percent. I would say, pay for digits for the ticket.
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I am excited about the Masters this weekend from Augusta.
I do expect Tiger to play well. Do I think
he'll win, Like I think he will win a Masters
before he retires. I don't know if he'll win this week.
I'm hopeful, hopeful, And the last time we saw him
play at match play, he was incredible. Coming up next,
Jared Dudley joins the show. I'll ask him how the

(40:03):
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Are Farmers Well, He's been through it all the ups
and the downs, the teams that are supposed to win
championships and the teams that are supposed to be bad.
I'm wondering what Jared Dudley thought of this year's Brooklyn

(40:47):
Nets team before the season began, and what he thinks
of them now as they've made the playoffs. He'll join
us uh in mirror moments here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Should be pointed out as I think important to note
at that that, um, look the bottom of the East,
those teams are trying to be bad. At the top
of the East, the teams are trying to be good,

(41:08):
and you get kind of caught in the middle. But
the Nets are really, really, surprisingly good considering the process
of rebuild that they've had to go through. I got
a ton of stuff to get to on tonight's National
Championship game. I do think that there is a certain
destiny element to Virginia. But at some point fatigue makes
cowards of us all. And they play six dudes and

(41:31):
it's a lot. It's a lot on six guys, and
you could say, well, they hadn't played in a week
and they got a day off and for a college kid.
When you have a general rhythm to how many games
you have played, and you have this sort of media attention,
and all these games coming down towards wire, there does
get to a point where you run out of fuel.

(41:52):
And they were on flames coming kind of down the
stretch there against Auburn. And now you fast forward to
tonight's game, which though pace wise you would think, hey,
it's not exhausting playing at a slower pace when every
possession matters, sometimes it's actually more exhausting than running up
and down where it's a higher possession game should be

(42:15):
outstanding to watch. Right, you got Tie Jerome who just
kind of throws in shots over smaller opponents. Matt Mooney,
the two time transfer Chicago kid who's been incredible. We
mentioned Arkohen's. I'm told he will definitely play tonight. No
one knows how well he'll play tonight with the yankle injury.
Should I do that breaking news thing? Sure, I should

(42:36):
tweet breaker news. Sources close to me report Tarikohen's gonna
play tonight. And then of course you have you have
the stars. You know, you have stars of the game,
like a Jared Cover, like a Kyle Guy or DeAndre Hunter.
DeAndre Hunter will be a first round pick, and so
we'll uh Jared Cover and they'll match up against each other.

(42:58):
And Hunter seems a little bit physically more mature, but
a little bit less springing in terms of athleticism. But
I think his game is a little bit more refined.
So a lot to it, man, a lot to this thing.
And I'm excited to see these two teams play. And
I'm very from I'm very well aware that the ratings

(43:18):
aren't going to be good. I can't determine what I
talked about simply based upon the ratings. If I did,
for years, I would have talked about NASCAR, whose ratings
were good and now they've come back. In terms of
sports radio, I think you're gonna watch tonight, and I
think you're gonna watch with the same passion you would
have it was Duke versus Kentucky. Of course, not of course,
not um, But I do think that you will watch.

(43:45):
You're absolutely gonna watch the game, and you'll form some
sort of overwhelming opinion based upon these players playing on
this stage. For example, I don't think over Is is
a lottery pick, you know, I think he has a
chance to be a really really good player. And as
much as he hit the game deciding three, you know

(44:06):
in Michigan State, for him to come back back was
he was really limited. Some of it's the space of
a college basketball game, but just in terms of skill set,
he's got a way to go. You gotta be able
to shoot the basketball in the NBA, not just get
by people, got of ways to go. But because of
the stage of the Final four, I think it will

(44:27):
help him, there's any any doubt it will help him,
helps everybody. That's kind of more that again goes in
line with my argument about why players should always play
in college, why college has a value, and why we
don't talk enough about that value. There's this poll in

(44:48):
The Athletic by Sam Amock. It's not actually he conducted
the poll of anonymous players, and he asked those anonymous
players who the most over rated player in the NBA
was now. James Harden, Ben Simmons, Lebron, James, Kyle Lowry
all came tied for six. Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins, Carl

(45:09):
Anthony Towns all tied for third. Draymond Green and Russell
Westbrook both tied for first. Seventent of respondence seventeen present
said Russell Westbrook and Raymond Green, and the two are
overrated by by their perspective for completely different reasons, right,

(45:31):
Draymond Green because he gets called a superstar even though
he doesn't have to score, and he's playing around with
three superstars and one former star maybe future star in
DeMarcus Cousins. And Russell Westbrook because of the triple doubles.
I think people view him as a top five player
in the NBA, and most guys in the NBA are like, Look,

(45:52):
if I simply if the Stars simply played for a
triple double every night, they could get a triple double. U.
Jared Dudley joins us. He's nominated for the Twive and
Stokes Teammate of the Year award. He joins us on
Fox Sports Radio. Jared start the year. I want your
total honesty. What did you think of the Brooklyn Nets.

(46:14):
I realistically thought in the Eastern Conference that we could
compete between seven and and and that nine seed. To
be honest with you, I just thought that when you
looked at it, everyone knew the top teams being Toronto, Boston, Philly. UM,
I'm trying to think you're also in that category. Bucks.
I thought i'd be top five. But when you put Detroit, Charlotte, Miami,

(46:36):
those type of teams with the guard player that they
had with Kariss Spencer and D'Angelo, I honestly believe that
we could be between a seven and nineties. Sure, you
guys went through some early mid season kind of adversity.
What what changed? What brought this team together? I think maturity.
I think that we were losing games. You know how
young teams are. They don't know how to win the
fourth quarter. We'll be up fifth team and twenty and

(46:57):
louse by two. Bad turnover, shot selection being very poor.
And I think we have the players only film session.
You know you're hearing the lead. They have a player
only meeting. Those really meetings don't do anything for you,
but the film doesn't lie. And so when you look
at guys not boxing out or not making the extra pass,
and you have your teammates calling you out instead of
a coach, it takes a little more personal. And I

(47:19):
think that on this team are role players. Aren't trying
to take away from our youth. We're only trying to help.
So it's not like we're trying to take shots or
playing time away. We're trying to do the little things
to help them win. And credit to the secredit to
our young guys of listening, understanding and adjusting their games.
Doug Gott Live show here on Fox Sports Radio um U.

(47:39):
Jared Jared Dudley joining us. D'Angel Russell is a guy
that he bysally got run out of l A. And
I'll just and I know about the situation. Where are
you right now? Bother you in a playground? I'm in
New York City. Maybe we are semified degrees out here
right now? Super nice? I said, you know what I
gotta do this show my guy does. Yeah, yeah, out
here in New York City after three quins. So wait

(48:02):
where where where specifically are you? You're at the park? Yeah,
Battery Park. Yeah, that's over there with a lot of
teams stay at and stuff like that, walking around. Beautiful
day in the city. Jared Dudley doing student is doing
at San Diego. Kid in in in the big city. Okay,
So Danzel Russell's in l A. Lakers thought he hung
out too much, didn't work hard enough, high volume guy,

(48:24):
didn't play much defense, not a winning player. How did
you guys turn him, Well, you gotta together like this, Doug.
I mean, most eight guys are coming into the NBA
now nineteen years old, living in Los Angeles, playing under Kobe.
His last year. We all know the Kobe Fair World Tour.
It was all about him, which it should be. Playing
for Firing Scott a strict disciplinarian. I just think they

(48:46):
brought people around him coaching staff. Um still held them
accountable even this year's All Star year. But he was
ben on a lot of these fourth quarters earlier this season.
His decision making. Uh, that's why I say crits the
young guys that was him. He ask questions, why do
you think he's turned the ball over? Why do you
think he wasn't playing? And it's the little things, it's
the stuff I don't show upen the box score. At

(49:07):
the point guard, your job is to manage the game.
Sometimes it's a score. Sometimes it's it's it's ball possession,
it's it's getting the guy, it's the right type of shots.
So I think for him was going through that adversity
seeing what he had to do, and then once the
Kiris got hurt, he took it on himself to become
more of a score, more efficient, and then as the
guy who was here in New York all summer working
his butt off, he watched his film Take Care of

(49:28):
his Body. He was hurt a lot last year. Uh
got in the weight room to stay injury free, and
because of him, we're in the playoffs. Jared Dudley, our
guest on the Doug Gott Live Show. Um, there's a
there is something about this group though, right like you
mentioned the players only meeting you've been, You've been a
bunch of Look when you went to the Clippers, that

(49:49):
was a much more talented group, but it didn't come together.
What's the secret to keeping a group together and getting
better as the season goes on? Personalities? Look at it.
If you look at our guys, except for maybe D'Angelo,
a lot of these guys are blue collar, under recruited
type players coming out that you know, we really have
one through fifteen. Literally at fifteen guys, I mean Grande

(50:12):
Hollis Jefferson was the starter in the year Javon Graham
hit big shots playing defense. So I think Brutts is
knowing your role. Everyone knows what it's supposed to. Joe
Harris arguably having one of the best shooting seasons, not
even this year. I mean, I don't want to use
the word NBA history. I mean he's shooting forty eight
from three with six or seven tempts as a starter.
I mean, it's phenomenal what he's doing. So I just
think people knowing their role, knowing what they have to

(50:34):
do um and basically being unselfish. I mean there's a
lot of times where you know what D'Angelo will getting
bits a caris LeVert coming back off his injury, playing
only ten eleven minutes, This is the best person plays
fourth quarter. And we don't hold no grudges, and we
cheer each other on. And you know how sometimes when
you're not playing on that bench, you look at guys
when they're half clapping I called the golf clap where

(50:56):
they're really not really cheering the guys on on our team.
If you look at our celebrations, I mean, we're on
Bleacher Bleacher Report every other day when it comes to
our dances and and sharing guys on because we really
want the other guy to succeed when they're in there. Yeah,
it's it's fascinating to watch, right, It's it does feel
like a true team does does does feel like a
true team, And I don't know if it's how it

(51:18):
plays out in the playoffs, but it's one of the
few stories with just getting back to the playoffs is
a greater success story than most people could fathom. Is
that fair? It is fair? It's fair. I mean, hey,
let's be ono. Shawn Marks took over at the general
manager here, no first round picks. I mean he's done
great job drafting, making trades, got cares and the fatty traded.

(51:38):
Um he just drafted Roady are are rookie who's starting
six nine from you know, um second round picking starting
for us for the last games. Uh speaking, the D'Angelo
trade through the Mobs golf taken on that contract I
with a salary dump Damori Carol. So what he's been
able to do now having three basically first round picks,

(51:58):
and I think the secondround picks thirty one caps face.
I think that him coming from the Spurs and bringing
that you know, steady organization, head coaching job and their
player developments phenomenal here. Um. One of the reasons why
when I got hurt and I wasn't playing, they make
you play three on three, five or five all day,
making you stay in shape that when you get your chance,

(52:19):
you're ready. Gods have been ready this year, and so
you credit to the organization for this. Yeah, it's it's
pretty stuff. I love that you're just like readily man like. Look,
I was a salary dumb. What am I gonna say?
I was a salary dump everybody knows it. I'm cool
with it, salary dub. But you're somebody who most people
thought would like try and get into college coaching, maybe
your NBA coaching. Yet it probably has lengthened your career
as a none. It has because you have to evolved

(52:41):
in this game. You know, me moving to the stretch
four and then now how many you know? I just
told you guys are coming in younger and nineteen twenty
years old trying to play. So what team is not
looking for vets thirty to thirty four that won't take
away playing time, that will help these guys hang out
with them, help their professionalism. But yet call him out.
I'm gonna tell D'Angelo it's a bad shot. I don't

(53:02):
care if you need to alstar team. I told you
honest when he was doing something wrong with Deaf and
Booker so you hold you guys accountable because habits are key,
and you know, when you are in a losing situation,
losing culture, these bad habits will linger. And so as
my job as being basically another coach on the floor,
And so it's tough when you don't play. When you're
getting MPs, players will listen to you, but not as

(53:23):
much when they see you on the floor. They say, hey, man,
this is a thirty three, thirty four year old guy
who's not athletic but can contribute and have such a
high i Q. They respected a little bit more man. So, um, coach,
it will come one day that are a GM, but
I might as well stay here, keep up cutting these
chicks a little bit longer. I like that, or or
or a GM. Um. Okay, you guys just played Milwaukee twice,

(53:44):
once with the honest, once without of course, you have
the history of playing there. You played the Bucks, you
played Philadelphia. I'm all these within the like the last
two weeks you played Toronto. First, you've seen your honest.
I know you've watched Harden more. Um, you know when
you're when you're out in the West, who's the best.
There's Durant out there in your opinion, who's the best
player in the league, not the MVP this season, who's

(54:07):
the best player in the league. That's good, you know, yeah, wow,
that's a great question. I mean you would. I mean,
obviously there was last year of been lebron him. I'm
making the playoffs. I think you have to take him
out because of that. I know, injury happens. I mean
easy to say Kevin Durant is easy. The reason why
Joanna doesn't get it yet in jannest I feel we'll
get the m DP is because you have to show
it in the postseason. That's where the best players usually

(54:29):
stand out. Kevin Durant, we can criticize him going to
the Warriors and not liking that, but even when he
was in Okay See letting him to the finals, multiple
conference finals, his shooting percentage is all what he does.
We just don't get to see. Even though we see
how much excellence he has, we know he can do
even more on another team. And that's why people kind
of hung up about that. So I would say Kevin

(54:50):
Durant hardens in that category. Janice is not too far.
I heard you said Westbrook being a top five I
think most players, do Westbrook the top ten not really
a top five player? No, No, I said, here, here's
what I said, Just because you're coming in, there's a
there's an unnamed player poll that has him and Draymond
is the two most overrated players in the league. And

(55:10):
I said, I think fans think because the average of
triple double, he's automatically a top five player. Where I
think play players realize that that. Look, you can play
a little bit too. Stats Like, you know, getting a
couple of extra rebounds as a guard doesn't make you
the greatest guard on earth. It doesn't mean that he's
not good. Just I top ten, top fifteen would be
would be about right. Uh. Last thing, like, you guys

(55:34):
still have a couple of games left, right, so there's
still we don't know your one game left, so we
don't know, we don't know who you're gonna play in
the playoffs. Are you absolutely playing? You guys absolutely playing
to win this game? Not necessarily, I mean, because let's
say play to win, Like for us, it's we're said
either six or seven, and so coaching, the coaching will
have to come into play. But if you look at it,

(55:56):
why would you risk injury in the last game of
season when you have a playoffs and you when your slotted.
So if let's just say Orlando loses the word at
the sixth seed, no matter what, and I know I'm
not the head coach. I just don't envision guys playing
a lot of ministarters when the game does not matter
and you're already slotted. Now, if Orlando does win, if
we win, we would go to six. And so that's

(56:17):
where the decision would be making of Hey do we
go for it to play either Philly or Toronto, both
teams we've had some success. I think we want want
we would be both team once in the regular season,
could have won another one down to the wire. Um,
both present two totally different challenges, and so either one,
I don't know that it's a fair decision who would pick.
I just know we didn't want to play Milwaukee. That's

(56:38):
a team you did not want to play first round. Um, okay,
so you're not gonna tell me who you'd rather play, Like,
who do you think you match up better? The um
before the trade was it was Philly. I think after
the trade, I think I think Toronto five would buy
more better a matchup just because and be got us.
He gets our bigs and bounce truble so much he
puts him in the bonus um. But at the same time,
they haven't had playoffs success, so you know, but you

(57:00):
add Tobias, you had Jimmy Butler. The old guys have
been proven to understand. So maybe Toronto, I mean, hey,
I mean took a coin here, you know, one a
one beat. But I would say Toronto we have a
little bit more success than Chi. I don't know, I
don't know. I don't want any part of Toronto, but
I think SAMs really started to improve. And obviously but hey, listen,

(57:21):
go ahead, you're at the nominated for the twime and
Stokes uh Teammate of the Year. Really appreciate, joy, enjoy
the beautiful day in the big City. Can't wait to
see in the playoffs. Thanks for Jonas, j do hey Man,
thanks for having you guys. Appreciate it alright. Three times
Super Bowl champion NFL and Fox analyst Mark Slaver joins
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(59:50):
three times Super Bowl champion and NFL on Fox analyst
Marshla everything's gonna join us see in moments on the show.
And I think Josh Rosen report the first. He was
the first guy, first guy in the door. There's a
guy in the door. Everybody's trying to pretend that it's
all cool. It's all hey, we're good. Listen, Josh Roseen.

(01:00:15):
I'm a leader. I can be the first one of
the door. And the Cardinals they're not gonna tell him
to stay away. Hey, man, don't show up because we're
trying to trade you. But just because couples still go
on couples trips and they still, you know, sitting next
to each other at dinner, doesn't mean there are still

(01:00:37):
a couple for a long time. You can just tell
by the way they look at each other. Do they
do they brush up against each other? Do they finish
each other's sentences. We'll we'll get to we'll get to
Mark Slayrath in a second and find out what he
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champion NFL on Fox Analysts. She joins us on the
Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um stink. By
the way, if that was the NFL, that that that
call would have been reviewed fifteen times over. You know
that Right the the end of the Virginia game against Aubert,
can we lose him? We're having trouble connecting to uh
to Mark Slareth trying to start off with a joke.
That's what they always say. Start him off with the joke, romos,

(01:02:24):
start him over with the joe, start him over the joe,
get him get him chuckling along. Um, there there's a
there's uh. The more mock drafts you see, they more
they say Kyler Murray to the Cardinals. Meanwhile, the first
guy to show up at O t a s today
off season training was Josh Rosen. I feel like that's
just Rosen, you know, doing the smart thing. Marc Lairis

(01:02:48):
joins us on the Doug gotta show stank you with us. Yeah,
I'm here man, How are you, buddy? I'm really really good.
Rosen first guy in the buildings. He's pretending like he's
all in. Ardnolds saying, of course he's going to show up.
They're pretending like they're all in. Where do you think
ultimately Josh Rosen plays football next year? Um? Not with
the Cardinals. I mean I can't, like, I can't imagine

(01:03:11):
them not trying to move him at some point in
the quarterback. It's not back quarterback driven league. It's a
quarterback deprived league. So there is gonna be somebody that
evaluated him high last year. It's going to get him
for a late second, early third round pick. But if
you go after Kyler Marie, that's the decision you've made.
Certainly Josh Rosen doesn't fit into that style of offense.

(01:03:35):
So if that's the decision you've already made, you know
what I mean to me, you're not gonna keep both
of those guys. They don't they don't match the skill
sets are not similar. So I've got to believe that
he's not going to be playing um for the Arizona
Cardinals next year for sure. Okay, so so where does it?
Where does he fit? Like? Uh, I mean the Redskins

(01:03:58):
already traded for a quarterback, but be he becomes their guy.
The Giants need an air apparent, but they're they're saying
at least telling people openly that that Eli is still
their guy, at least for this year and maybe in
the next year. The Chargers need to need a guy,
but they decided to sign a Tyrod Taylor, so maybe
they don't need a guy. The Patriots need to back up.

(01:04:20):
But did the Patriots really want to give up any
equity to get a backup quarterback when they have Tom Brady? Like,
where do you think the best fit is? Yeah? Or
what about the Miami Dolphins, I mean, they signed Fitzpatrick
is their guy? Is that? Is that a landing spot
for Josh Rosen where he comes in and you know,
maybe sits on the bench. One thing we know about Fitzpatrick,
He's gonna have two magnificent games followed by two just

(01:04:42):
absolute garbage games. So that's kind of been the story
of his career. So is would that be a fit
right there? I like the New York Patriots kind of move, um,
you know, because one of the things that that they
always seem to be able to do is, you know,
take that thirty first overall pick or that thirty second
overall pick and move back and parlay it into multiple

(01:05:02):
draft picks. And the next thing, you know, you've got
three second rounders and you know, two third rounders or
two seconds and the three thirds, and could you could
you move on a Josh Rosen for a third rounder
to the Arizona Cardinals, Like something like that just seems
so belichick in to me that that that seems like
a place where maybe he may go and kind of
get a year of quote unquote football rehab udneth Tom

(01:05:25):
Brady and just see how that kind of pans out.
So that one makes a lot of sense to me.
Um as well. Yeah, this this whole thing though, that
the Cardinals have done nothing to really help his trade value,
and I just I don't really understand that. Flash even
if you want Kyler Murray, why haven't the whole time
you said Josh Rosen is awesome. Cliff Kingsbury has been

(01:05:47):
brought in to fix Josh, to help Josh Rosen become awesome,
Like why has there been this? Like why why have
they done what they've done with the asset that is
Josh Rosen. Yeah, well that's someone that doesn't make a
lot of sense. But again you're talking about the Arizona
Cardinals and and here in the last two years, not
a whole lot has made since. Um, you know, the

(01:06:08):
whole Kyler Murray thing, I believe goes back to when
Clip Kingsbury was in college at Texas tex saying, boy,
if I had that guy, you know that guy, I'd
made him the first overall pick. And so the speculation
was out there, the fascination with Kyler Murray was out
there for Killick Kingsbury and and obviously in the air
aide system that they run. Um, you know, Josh Rosen

(01:06:29):
just isn't a fit for that. Uh you know, he
he grew up in a different offense. He's a different
caliber type player and um, you know, and and there
were a lot of draft knicks and a lot of
kind of draft gurus last year they talked about him being,
you know, him having the most NFL ready skill set
of all the quarterbacks coming out last year. So you know,
they've done a terrible job of kind of hiding their

(01:06:51):
feelings towards Kyler Murray and what they want to become. Um,
they did have a veiled attempt to bring Nick Bosa
and you know, and like, hey, look we're actually looking
at Nick Bosa, but nobody fought into it. So, um,
that's kind of where they sit right now. They've done
a horrible job in regards to, you know, creating value
for uh, you know, for Josh Rosen certainly, and um,

(01:07:12):
and but you know, they seem to be infatuated with
the Kyla Murray kids. And so that looks like the
direction they're gonna go. Obviously, all right, to help me
out with Antonio Brown, for whatever reason, he chooses to
engage on social media on Twitter with fans who don't
like him, even though he believes that he's over the
Pittsburgh thing. Then he throws Juju Smith Schuster under the bus,

(01:07:33):
and then in in a in an attempt to like
defend himself, like to say, hey, I'm cool with Juju,
even though Juju answer to tweet and obviously it's not
cool with what he said in terms of the kid
fumbled in the biggest game of the year. Um, Like, look,
here's here's a here's a direct message of Juju reaching
out to me back when he played in college. Like
that still doesn't undo it. What's your read on what

(01:07:57):
this says about Antonio Brown the person. Well, I mean,
obviously the immaturity level UM is epic um. You know,
forcing his way out of Pittsburgh. You know, he's like,
you know, he's like the guy that you know that
breaks up with a girl. And and instead of saying, hey,

(01:08:17):
it's not you, it's me, he's like, no, no, it's
it's you. I broke up with you because I don't
like you. Um. You know. Again, it points to the
immaturity um with which he deals with with people in general.
And but I think it's deeper than that. I think
I think it's um systemic within the organization. Like they

(01:08:38):
have not held people accountable within that organization, whether it's
Antonio Brown, whether it's Bell, whether it's Ben Roethlisberger, whoever
the case may be. UM And and they've allowed guys
to act this way. You're either coaching it or you're
allowing it to happen. And in Pittsburgh. They allowed it
to happen. And the worst thing can happen to a

(01:09:00):
guy like Antonio Brown is he can act like that,
he can be late to things. He can show up,
you know, and decide not to work that day. I mean,
all reports that he's incredibly hard worker, but I've always
felt this way, and I've talked to my teammates about
this before. If you show up late to anything, and
this is just in life in general, um, it's it

(01:09:22):
is one of the most disrespectful acts in my mind
that there is. You show up late to a team function,
you show up late to a team meeting, you're essentially saying,
my time is more valuable than your time. You know,
my family is more important than your family. I'm more
important than you because I can't show up on time.
And when you allow that to happen. And in Pittsburgh

(01:09:46):
behind closed doors, the people that I talked to it
was it was an epidemic. I mean he was it
was constant with that particular guy, and you allowed it
to happen because of his talent, and it created a
guy that is uh, that's it creates a monster, It
creates a guy that's completely self absorbed and um, you know,

(01:10:10):
and it's in this for him and you're good. He'll
go to the Raiders, he'll get plants, targets. I feel
like he's a guy that doesn't care about winning games.
You know, He's that guy that you can lose as
long as he's got ten targets at hard sixty five yards.
You know, he goes out that night. Man, it wasn't
on me. But if you win and he's got four
targets for sixty yards, well there's gonna be hell to

(01:10:31):
put at some point. And and that you can't win
in this league. You can't win championships with that turd.
It's just you know, I don't care. You can put
sprinkles on it, or for chocolate sauce on it. It's
still a turd. And it does. It feels like the
Pittsburgh's Heither's really one today, right, Like they just did
um even though they took a huge cap it it

(01:10:52):
feels like they won the post trade discussion. Anybody who
questions why it was done, they just look at social
media and they go there you go, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Hey,
we tried to make it work. It didn't work. You know,
we'll take it. We'll we'll take our lumps, and we've
got to we've got to internally fix some things that

(01:11:15):
are wrong with organization. But the first step in fixing
what's wrong with the organization is fixing the biggest issue
within your organization. And you know, on the outside looking in,
and you know and I say that, and you know,
we're all on the outside looking in. Most of us
have contacts within the organization that would tell you, you know,

(01:11:36):
it was it was, this was the way he operated
and the way he did business. Um, that is a
I'm a percent on board with you. The Steelers have
have taken that first step to kind of cleansing what's
wrong with their organization by getting rid of that guy.
How do you think the Cleveland thing plays out? Is
it interesting? I mean, having done one of their games

(01:11:58):
late in the season last year, Doug and being at
the practice, um and just watching their game tape. That
is a talented football team. I mean both lines of scrimmage.
Incredibly talented offensive line, defensive line. Um, you've got some
talented linebackers. I thought the secondary of the Browns was
exceptionally talented as I was watching them play together. Um,

(01:12:21):
the receiving corps obviously the backfield. I mean this is
this is a super talented team. Now again, can all
those egos and all those personalities fit and can you
get you know, can you get everybody involved, so everybody's
got a part of that winning. Um. I think the
one thing that lends itself to them having some success

(01:12:43):
is there's no question that that Baker Mayfield is the leader.
Like that Baker Mayfield has so much respect within that organization.
And and I feel like they've got the right guy
pulling trigger to make sure that everybody's on board and
everybody's kind of pulling um on the same page, so
to speak, so that that part's interesting. I mean, if

(01:13:04):
they if they can amass all these personalities and all
those guys can play for one another, Um, they're their
rosters as talented as anybody's roster in this league. I
did mention that the Giants have come out and said, hey,
Eliza guy this year, maybe even next year. And look,
I'll grant you that teams don't always do what they say, right.

(01:13:25):
They don't. On the other hand, theyve Gentleman for the
most part, has done what he said he will do.
It feels like everybody else thinks that's a mistake. Everybody
else thinks Eli Manning is washed or very very close
to being washed. What do you think of what Dave
Gentleman has come out and said, Well, here's Dave Gentleman
in a nutshell, Dave Gentleman as a believer again. I'm

(01:13:47):
gonna build the lines of scrimmage. I'm gonna I'm basically
going to control the line of scrimmage. And in control
a line of scrimmage, weren't have an opportunity to protect
our quarterback and we don't have an opportunity to win.
And you know, I look at what they did. You're
not winning. If you don't fix your line of scrimmage.
You can have two or Triodell Beckham Jr. You're not
gonna win. You can't. And so Dave Gentleman looks at

(01:14:12):
Odell Beckham and goes, he's incredibly talented. But if we
can't fix what really ails this team, we can have
him for the next three years. We're still not gonna
win even with that talent, and and them, where are we, like,
where are we at that point? So the fact that
you move on from him, you get valuable assets in

(01:14:32):
his in his place. UM. I'll tell you a very
underrated move they made was the guard Zeidler, who was
the first round pick for the Cincinnati Bengals and then
went over to Cleveland. He played exceptionally well last your
big body kid thick um and can really play. And
so it's helps solidify them on the inside, something they've

(01:14:53):
had real trouble with as far as protecting Eli Manning
and nobody, you know, nobody talks about that, but that's
how Dave get him the constructive football team. UM. Everywhere
he's been, that's the way he's put him together. So
I actually kind of liked the most because you know,
there's everybody's dependent on one another playing well. But there's
no position that's more dependent in the National Football League

(01:15:14):
than than the wide receiver position. I mean, if you're
not what if ten of the guys aren't doing their
job exceptionally well, the wide receivers don't get a sniff
the ball, and you know, at some point they I
don't know how they became superstars, you know they became
They get their individual ISOs on Sunday, you know, and
everybody's at the ISO cam on the receiver and he
makes one brilliant play and all of a sudden he's

(01:15:36):
the reason you're winning. And I would still argue, you know,
show me the one free agent wide receiver they went
to a different team, and um, you know it was
the difference in them going to the super Bowl and
not going to the super Bowl. It just doesn't happen.
Great stuff, stink. That's three times your Bowl champion, Mark Slareth.
Of course you can see him NFL on Fox and
on all Fox Sports one daily TV shows. Thanks so
much for joining us anytime. Do take everybody. Chris Carter

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This is Chris Carter earlier today on First Things First,
which is on Fox Sports one every morning from six
to nine uh West Coast time, East Coast time, three

(01:17:27):
to six West Coast time, Fox Sports one, on what
he thinks Lebron James should do in free agency. I
want to ask you a question. See what would your advice.
If Lebron said to you, how would you go about it?
I would go after k D That's what I would do.
I go aft and get the best basketball player that's available.
What would the pitch to katib is my question? I
guess man, Let's do this together. We could be the

(01:17:47):
greatest combo ever in the history, playing for the best
franchise ever. You want to live in l A. Let's
do this together, Katie. Lebron would be a drastic help
for Katie as far as the media, regardless of what
Katie saying about oh Man Lebron and when you're with him, No,
that's what he would he He needs a big brother
every once in a while. But on the court, Lebron

(01:18:09):
needs someone else on the court that can score the basketball,
can stretch the defense, can get their own shot. That's
what I would do. Why would I settle for the
best If I'm going to the prom it's my last year,
Hey girl, let's go me and you. I'm going after
the best one. I've been about the best my whole life,
and Lebron should be about that. Why would I settle?

(01:18:30):
If I think Katie is the best player and I
know Lebron thinks that way. Why would I settle for
somebody Kimba uh Kyrie uh Kauai keep that yourself. You
can go to the Clippers. Yeah, listen, it's not a
bad thought. This is the same thing with U. C.
L A. It's the same thing with anybody. You know.

(01:18:52):
You gotta ask. You see a pretty girl at the bar,
you gotta ask. Ask. But you also have to have
a plan B and be reasonable and understand that. Kevin
Durant to this point that has has said, at least publicly,
he doesn't love that idea. He doesn't love that scene,
whether it's l A or the idea of playing in
the shadow of Lebron James on Lebron James team. To

(01:19:15):
this point, that's what he said. Now, look, times can
change and maybe and in all honesty style of play
wise right like Lebron is a Lebron's the guy who
likes other guys to take and make the big shot.
He also a lot has always allowed his his his
co part to to be an is O guy, whether
it's Kyrie or or Dwyane Wade, and Dwayne Wade was

(01:19:37):
nearly the shooter and score of a Kyrie Irving at
that point in his career, but it it is Lebron's team,
and it does feel like k D wants his own
team and his own legacy and helping build the legacy
of Lebron James does not feel like a k D thing.
So I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, But what
do you do when if and when Kevin Durant said

(01:20:00):
as no to that, I don't know what the what
the next move is that makes you seem so smart?
Say the Gottlip Show, he is brought to you by
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Ryan Music. Do you think Durant would be totally taken
back if Lebron like humbled himself to try and recruit

(01:20:21):
him this summer because he just thinks that Lebron is
always trying to compete with him? Um, what do do
I think one more time? Do he thinks? Do I
think Katie would look? I think if you if you
have a rival, when the rival goes like, hey dude,
come play with me. If you have a rival in
radio and they say, come work with me. If there's

(01:20:42):
a coach and he tells the coach, come coach with me,
I think that shows a sacrifice of ego that very
few people have the problem with it is to this
point Lebron James hasn't become ever an active recruiter. Like
he hasn't said I don't want Katie, but he hasn't
picked up the phone texticons. He has done the thing
that you have to do, which is show would do

(01:21:02):
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that you're gonna remember. It's interesting, this is um this
is it's the third Final Four. Technically I spent with

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my son once I was uh working for CBS, and
I was I was working so much that I never
got I popped in with them in the stands and
I did the game on the court and whatever. He
was really really young. Um. I think Yukon won that one.
And then in Phoenix a couple of years ago, it

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was my last one with CBS. I knew I was leaving.
They knew I was leaving, so I had my radio show,
had a couple of other things that I had to do.
I didn't have as much time to hang out as
I would have liked. UM, But this one I've gotten
to spend just solely just me and him, and you
guys got to hear him on their last Thursday before
we left, and it's it's this is what I've encouraged

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him to do, is to remember little things of each day,
literally little things of each game, but also each day
just the experience of it. And the first day example,
for example, when we arrived here UM where we broadcast
from Radio Row. He's right in the middle of the
Coaches convention. And while it's not fan Fest, fan Fest

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is like right next door and has way more going on.
It was way better because there's all these basically all
the contraptions and all the different st was a basketball
hoops and uniforms and toss back machines and whatever that
there can be. Like, he basically had the run of
it where you could shoot hoops and do as many
try as many things as possible. It's even a virtual
reality basketball thing as well. So the next day we

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go to the fan fest and he was like, well,
there's lines everywhere, the kids everywhere. He probably shot the
ball fifteen times and we were there for like three hours.
Turns out that the first day, even though it wasn't
fan Fest, was actually better, and it was better because like, look,
fan fest is for all those kids that don't get
to go into the hall where we broadcast from, don't

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get to have like their own court, you know, they
don't get to experience all that. And then we went
to the We went a couple of big this big
party before the game and it had darts, which we
had never played darts together before. It had ski ball,
which um, I am terrible at. I am really terrible

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at ski ball, but much better at darts. He had
a little Papa shot which he dominated. I'm terrible Papa
shot really good, but he's just small enough to still
be able to co almost like shoot the basketball, whereas
it feels very foreign to me. Um. And then yesterday
we hit w then we went to the games, and
then we had this this n ABC All Star game

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where he me, him and my my nephew got to
go upstairs at St. Thomas University and shoot in their auxiliary.
Jim and he didn't really get to shoot in the arena,
but he got to sit courtside for the arena and
he was like, man, I didn't get to be a
ball boy. And I was like, dude, you got to
sit there and hang with Charles Barkley and you get
to sit there and why and meet Shack, I mean

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all these other celebrities like that was pretty cool. Anyway.
My my point is that you gotta take like snapshots
and individual memories of Man. I remember this, and I
remember that, I remember different, different moments from different when
I closed my eyes, and I remember my last game
as a college player. It was in Syracuse, New York.

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My mom had obviously gone to school there, and my
then fiance now wife was there, My mom was there,
my dad was there. I think my sister was there
as well. I'm not sure my brother came up for
the trip, and Nam Grant Wall writes for Sports Illustrated,
was following me around. I was going to be the
cover boy of Sports Social if he'd won that game.

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And I remember those snapshots, remember the discussions I had
with Grant and the life story that I told him.
But I also remember um watching Florida cut down the
nets alight. We came back out of the locker room
and we were My college career was over. I've never
I've never cut down a net in my life. We didn't.

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I never won a section championship. The c i F
Southern Section is the biggest section the country. Never won
a section championship. I went to the state tournament, didn't
want to state tournament. We won the league titles, but
we never cut down the nets and league titles at
my high school because we won the league two of
the four years I was there, and probably I don't know,
like on a seven out of ten year type deal.

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Actually we weren't three out of four years for there,
so we just we didn't cut down nets. So I
came out the locker room. I was completely exhausted. We
had a bunch of guys that had a little bit
of stomach by going around, I've been crying, and I
watched Florida Mike Millery, Adonis haslem Uh, Matt Bonner, Teddy Dopey,

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I watched them cut down the nets in two thousand
and at that moment in time, I wished I just
had another year to compete, because because that's what I wished.
Look when you lose. I also remember the year before that,
my junior year, we lost to Auburn there one seed.
We were in eight seed. We beat syracusean Indy. And

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in two thousand, the year that we lost in the
late eight the final four was an Indie. And I
remember we wrote on the white board like we'll be back,
and we did it in permanent ink. And we told
ourselves if we when we come back to the final four,
this is gonna be our locker room, and we'll make
sure that that's still on the on the boards. Will
wrote it in permanent ink up in the right hand

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corner and we wrote do not a race. We signed
it underneath. I bring that up because look, we can
talk about the blown call, which was the double dribble
that wasn't called. With a controversial call against Auburn, which
by letter of the law, appeared to be a foul.
I probably wouldn't have called it because although I don't

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like guys running up underneath other guys, I didn't feel
like I felt like it was just a little bit
too aggressive of a close out. And it happens in
college basketball. But whatever, the story of this Final Four is.
Last year, the impossible happened. A sick teen seed be

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to one seed. That's what happened. It was impossible. It
was It had never happened before, and we didn't think
it would ever happen. And the reason it would never
happen was because those sixteen seeds, the sixteen seeds, we're
getting worse, not better. They were getting farther from the top.

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But let's remember when Virginia lost it Maryland Baltimore County.
The game was tied at the half and they were
beaten by twenty points. Think about that. Virginia was thirty
one and two. They won the a c C, They
won the a CEC tournament, and granted they didn't have

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DeAndre Hunter, who's who was a freshman rising star, but
they didn't get beat they got she locked. It wasn't
a Bright Drew miracle shot. It wasn't let's hold the
ball and go four corners the way you could have
before there was a shot clock. They'd this guy. They
were just beaten. The team was smaller, quicker, shot the

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ball well from three. They had their heads absolutely spinning.
You fast forward roughly seventy days later, and Virginia has
a chance to win a national championship tonight. That's nuts,
But that is that snapshot memory of watching Maryland Baltimore

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County be Kings of the Universe for only two days.
Remember Marylyn Baltimore County lost the next game, Kings of
the Universe for two days. But you watched them of
their celebrating, and you look at it and it's it's
you're the punchline to every joke, You're the asterix to
every stat You're the only one seed ever to carry

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that burden around. And then on top of it, they've
had not one, but two miracle wins. Right like, you're
down three re to Purdue, a good free throw shooting team,
and Ryan Kleins at the line, a chance to seal
the deal, and he doesn't. And then you foul, you

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get fouled down three, The likelihood of winning is one
in ten thousand. Mate, but they did. They're down four
to Auburn. The likelihood of winning is what one in
ten thousand. Jared Harper at the line, worst case scenario,
he makes both free throws and you make a three

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and go to overtime. They won in regulation on a
foul at points six seconds to go. Pretty incredible, right.
Then you factor in that they lost as a one
seed last year, and look, I can go into Texas
Tech side. They lost. They lost four starters to the
to graduation. They brought in a couple of grad transfers

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who as much as I think of Matt Mooney, he
never played in an n C tournament tore Ohens. There's
a reason he was available on the market. They lost
their first ever one and done at Texas Tech. And
they have a coach who five years ago was coaching
in Division Division to basketball. I guess the whole thing
is crazy crazy. But for Virginia to be the first

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first one seed to not just they weren't. They didn't
lose last year. They were beaten last year, beaten handily
for three seventy days to sit and Stu survived two
absolute miracle finishes. I mean, if that's not the stuff

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of a book, I don't know what is. And here
we are watching Virginia potentially win a national championship. I
just it's beyond us. Now look for the as for
the foul which will kind of go down and maybe
he gets lost. Because if you look at when Michigan
won the National championship been Romeo Robinson, there was a

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fanom fantom foul in that game, complete fanom foul at
the end of the game, and we don't talk about
it now, So we probably won't talk about a fantom
foul in the in the at the end of the semifinals.
We don't talk about the block between Michigan and Louisville
that Trey Burke went goes and blocks Peyton Siva on

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a dunk. It gets called a foul. It was a
momentum changing, a championship, game changing play. It was the
wrong call, but just the story of Virginia losing as
his first one seat and and then Tony Bennett, who
I mean, just full disclosure. When it was over, I

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texted with Tony Bennett. I called him on the phone.
We talked and I said, hey, listen, I love you,
but you're gonna have to evolve some offensively. You gotta
have the ability to change and not just do one
thing over and over again. Now they have now. Look
they didn't do a ton of it the other night,
and I don't know how much they'll do tonight. But
he took all the input he heard from basketball people

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saying you might want to do this, you might want
to do that, And even though he had been remarkably
successful doing it this one way with him, with his
dad and as a player, he's changed. He's involved. Like
that whole story is amazing and should not get overshadow.
Jeff Goodman joins the show coming next, So, like, look,
you take a snapshot of things, like if the snapshot

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of my final four, my final game was Florida guys
celebrating cutting down the nets and and having Mike Miller
having the net around his neck, I can't imagine the
snap shot of last year's tournament for Virginia watching Maryland
Baltimore County get all of the praise because they were
the first sixteen to take down to one. Jeff Goodman

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joins the show up coming next. What does he expect
to have happen tonight? And will Rick Barnes be the
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buying experience. Let's see here, do you guys see this
Nick Saban story? I found it to be fascinating. Now
some will be critical of Nick Saban, but what what
he says is not only an opinion, it's opinion based

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mostly on fact um. Saban said that now we have
guys with no draft grades seventh round grades, free agent grades,
fifth round grades that are going out to the draft,
and the person that loses is the player. If you're
a third round pick. We had one last year. I'm

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not gonna say any names, goes and starts for his team.
So he's making third round money, which is not that great.
He'd be the first guy taking at his position this year,
probably making fifteen to eighteen million. More So, the agent
makes out, the club makes out. Now they've got a
guy that's going to play for that kind of money

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for three more years, right, And everybody's out there saying
we'll get you your next contract. Well, there's obviously these
guys are never getting that next contract. And that doesn't
mean all the rest of them, uh get get one either.
Um I've actually changed. This is from Nick Saban. I

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tell every recruit that I taught, I talked to the
reason you're going to go to college to prepare yourself
for the day you can't play football. I think we
have a lot of people way back in high school
that look at college as a conduit to the NFL.
And look, I'm a pcent NFL. I'm a percent guys
having careers, all right, But people have to be sparted

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about business decisions they make relative to the NFL, because
that is all business. I'll get we'll get to this
discussion upcoming. By the way, it's Jim Calhoun, hall of
Fame coach for Kentucky would tell guys, look, don't go
unless you're in position to play, unless you're a lottery picks.
You put yourself in position for a great second contract.

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It's a it has a longer lifespan, but it's still
the same kind of idea is that you may wait.
Just because you're gonna get taken doesn't mean it's the
time to go. Let's welcome in Jeff Goodman from Stadium Sports.
They at the NBC Awards, he hosted it last night.
He joins, us, you're on Fox Sports Radio. Let me
start with the most recent information. What are you here
in regards to the u c l A job. Rick

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Barnes is a guy for now. They were gonna wait
till Tony benetfinished, but obviously they've gotten information that they
should have gotten this information about three months ago that
Tony Bennett was not going to take the UCLA job.
You me and my fifteen year old daughter probably could
have told him, Matt uh. So, now they're onto Rick Barnes.
You know, they've struck out in a bunch of people,
which I'm fine with, Doug. I'm fine with swinging, you know,

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if you're Dan Guarrera, seeing what you can get reaching
out to just about everybody. But now you're in scrambled mode.
And the one they really screwed up on was was
Jamie Dixon. Why even get it to the point where
you're in negotiations until you figure out like, okay, are
we gonna be able to work out this bios? So
now it kind of looks like a joke. And Rick

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Barnes is what sixty four years old? I just don't
know if it's the right higher, if it's a short
term fix, it's a win the press conference type of deal.
And I love Rick Barnes, but I don't think it's
a good fit, certainly not at this time. Okay, So
not Rick Barnes, and you were in charge of hiring,
who would you hire? I'm said, it's Chris Bear, Chris

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Me or Chris Beard. Like this is the easiest call ever.
Just go get Chris Beard. I get he doesn't fit Westwood,
his personality, whatnot, but man, the Duke can coach like
he's playing tonight, boys coaching tonight, but he's here tonight,
actually on the sidelines. And uh, I don't know if
they can even get him. But they haven't really tried
at all. Why why I don't know. I mean, you

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hear some things. I don't know how much malidity they have,
but I don't know. Maybe they just don't think he
does fit Westwood and maybe they don't think they can
get him. But again, I would try because the Duke
can obviously coach, and he gets the most out of talent.
I think again, like he's not a guy that will
blow your way with his personality. But but you get

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to know him, been around him, Like he's pretty loose,
he works, He's like a more social Ben Howell to me, No,
no question, Okay, So uh let me let me ask
you about all the hires in college basketball. What's the
what's the home run higher of a And it's got

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to be a school that people have heard of. What
you don't want me to like, give you like Fairfield,
like j Young or something like that? Is it buzz? Yeah?
I guess, I mean, how do you? Yeah, I guess
you have to say buzz just because of of everything
that he's done, and it's just you know, it's so

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baffling to me with with with buzz and think about
this his first job, right, like his first job was
his best show. He wanted Marquette. He goes to Virginia Tech.
He wins there, high level, both places. Marketta Virginia Tech
is now a Texas saying, I'm like, it's just it's
it's head and scratching in a way done the fact

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that a guy who's won as much as he has
won as basically it's basically at a worst job then
where he started. Do you think are you thinking A
and M is a worse show? The Marquette all right, lateral,
I'll go with lateral. Market It's not it's NotI lateral.
It's not lateral. Come on, you've been that much better.

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It's not that much better. Well, there's no tradition. How
much tradition is there an A and M. Marquette has tradition? Okay, fine,
but it's it's hard to get kids to go. It's
it's there's not a ton of kids and a ton
of kids. It's hard to get him to go to
Marquette UM. Whereas when you're from Texas and you've been
there before and you know how many players are right

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down the road in Houston. Like it's about players, it's
about resources, and Marquette has resources to the relative to
its league, it does, but relative to the rest of
the world, it's very limited in comparison to Texas A
and M that has essentially unlimited resources. Right, That's really

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what it comes down to. And no, it's not a
basketball school, but they're good at basketball. There's plenty of
people to show up and fill and fill that barn,
like I'm gonna A and M has been a sleeping giant,
and people forget that when Billy Clyde was there, and
he was there and then handing off to Mark Turs
and they made six straight n c A tournaments, they
had a role in as. I just I disagree with you.

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Do I agree with you the premise of he's a
guy that doesn't ever seem to be happy. Sure, but
I think his argument would be, yeah, I was unhappy
because I wanted to be in Texas. I'm a Texas
guy and just nothing else fits me. Yeah. I mean, listen,
I I agree with most you're saying. I'm just saying, like,
it's not like like most guys. If you said this
is what they're going to do with Mark EVI gonna

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go to what five out of six tournaments, a couple
of sweet six team. Then they got a good to
Virginia Tech, where all else have failed, right, I mean
all the guys behind them failed for the most part.
And he wins there, and he goes to three straight
tournaments in a sweet sixteen. And oh, by the way,
you're at a job that you can make a case
is better, but not much. It's not much better, Doug, Like,

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it's just it's a head scratching career in a sense
like you would expect some like I'm shocked he didn't
wait it out and see if you can get Texas
next year, or see if Arizona polas Um. You know,
maybe you sell it. What have swung form? Now? I
mean again, does he fit in Westwood? His personality, I

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mean it's quirky as hell, but like again, he's a
social guy. He can really really really coach, I mean
a hell of a coach. Doug golives here here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right. I was talking earlier about
what's fascinating about Virginia. He's not just the two miracle
wins they've had, but then you put it in combination

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with the fact that just last year they're the you know,
they're the one team ever that's a one seed that's
lost to his a sixteen seed. It's kind I mean,
of all the remarkable things, that's the most remarkable thing
about Virginia's everything, I mean absolutely everything with Virginia, Like
like this is kind of and it was weird. Like

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I was there for their first game. I drove from
Jackson of South Carolina, and I was expecting this Virginia
story in the first round to be like the biggest
story of the first round. And tickets were going for
that first session for like five dollars done, and the
night session was I they were going for like three hundred.
I'm like, am I missing something here? Isn't this the

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story of the tournament? In a sense that this team
that made history it was on the wrong side of
history a year ago now has a chance to make
history again and how they've handled it, Like that's the part.
And I said it to Tony Bennet and Chris Beard
said it to Tony Bennett last night during the NBC
Award Show, like, like, how how he and his whole

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team have handled it with the class um and the
character that they have is just amazing, and uh it is.
It means book storylines are phenomenal tonight, aren't they. I mean, like,
Virginia has a chance to do what you said, the
absolute bottom, the absolute bottom to the top of a year.

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And Chris Beard and Texas Tech, as I wrote the
other day, they get hope to like Boston College and
De Paul and every crappy high major program. And I
don't mean that dump on Texas Tech, but again they
I don't have much history here um and show that
you can win anywhere. And honestly, on one hand, it's great.

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On the other hand, athletic directors are not going to
think that that everywhere you can get to the national
title because Chris Beard did it at Texas Tech and
a lot to coach you prigorately fired a lot earlier
because of Chris Beard. Now I'll help you. I don't
write like you do, but if I were to write
and they win tonight, what's most amazing about Chris about
Chris Beard text Tech is they've actually had great coaches there, right,

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Like this is that you know, like Jim O'Brien was
a very very good coach at Boston College. And but
you know who you know who in the last twenty
five years has to Paul have you like, man, that's
a great coach. Look at what Texas Tech at James
Dicky had them. They were two laws. They lost their
second game in the sweet sixteen that was the last
year's Southwest Conference right then they when he got fired,

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eventually they hired Bob Knight. From Bob Knight they had
they had Pat for a couple of years. Then they
had Billy Gillespie who had obviously a personal failings, but
as a coach, a phenomenal coach, right, and he had
Tubby Smith who won a national championship. And from Tubby
Smith to Chris Beard, like they it's not for lack
of trying. Some of its location based, right, um, Bara

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Myers and before these are good coach, wasn't he? Yes? Yes, um?
But I do think it's fascinating that they have tried
time and again and this is this is what's worked.
Who do you think wins? You know, I can't believe
I'm saying it, but Texas Tech, I've kind of flipped
on it, and I kind of had Virginia the whole

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way for the most part, and now after watching I
just think Texas text physical toughness it was going to
be the difference. And I think they're gonna take uh
the key guys out of the game. I don't, you know.
DeAndre Hunter just he's got to come out and be assertive.
He did it for like a five minute stretch in
the in the second half, like he turns it on

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at times. But he's not a killer. Neither is Colver
all the time. He had a bad game. But like
I think, ultimately they're going to get up in and
make life awfully difficult for both tied your room and
college guy. And I think textually Tech winchest I really did.
I can't believe it. Um how agreed to my My
problem with the officiating was not just that I didn't

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think you need to call foul there and that they
missed the double dribble, But why would the n c
A have him only comment on the foul and then say, well,
we don't comment on missed on on things that aren't called,
Like okay, so if there wasn't a foul there, and
we saw that, we saw the contact. They wouldn't comment
on it like that, just just say hey, we missed it,
and people would say, okay, a lot of us missed it. Yeah.

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I mean, listen, I thought, again, I thought it was
a file. I mean, after watching over and over, I
thought it was a file. And then I thought the
other part. To be honest, that was that that. I thought.
You know, again, tides your own got filed before the
double dribble. Now again you could say, well, they didn't
call they didn't call it, and it was a double dribble,

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but one certainly affected the other. So I get it.
I mean, these are tough. They're tough calls to make
in real time. By the rest we know that, like,
they're really tough calls to make. Um, I agree with
you in terms of the rests of being accountable for
all of them and commented all of them. But I
really didn't have a major problem with how both of

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them were called. Ultimately, you didn't have a major problem
with miss double dribble right in fry of two officials
because there a foul that caused it. It wasn't a
foul that caused him a dribble office feet there was
grabbed him, then call foul they miss I'm not saying

(01:48:14):
they didn't miss it. I'm saying maybe they let it
go because they didn't call the first one, or maybe
I understand, but that then you blow the whistle and
then you just call a foul. But you can't not
call anything when an obvious violation occurs, Like that's not
the way it works. And to people who are saying like, well,
you know a lot of people missed it, great, they're
not officials. Officials are not supposed to miss very very

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basic violations. Again, like I don't do I think missing
a basically, I do think it's a it's a pretty
egregious error, Like it's a really egregious error. And but
what they have the right to do is called blow
the whistle and then make up like as a foul.
That's why there was a double dribble. But you have
to explain the double dribble and not call something, and
to miss it on that stage is really egregious. And

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then to not comment, to just gloss over like there
was nothing called there, so we don't have to comment
on it, Like that is what what world are we
living in. Yeah, well that's unfortunately, that's the way they
were officiating. And you know, NBA has probably does too much.
They probably give too much, to be honest, and there's
probably some happy medium that that the l in college

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and NBA can do with with divulging information and commenting.
At the end of games, um, Trade Jones just announced
he's coming back for another year at Duke. This Is
this a change? Is it Trade Jones learning from his brother?
Is just Trade Jones reacting to what he's heard. Yeah,
I think it's both. I mean it listen, it's it's
an easy decision. I mean, it's not a first round pick.

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So you know, the mock drops at him in the
first round all year, but for the most part, it's
not a first round pick because he doesn't shoot them
all well enough. And I like this because I think
it gives him another year to prepare maybe put him
in the you know, in a situation where he can
be a first round pick. I mean Duke. Also, like,
I mean, they're gonna lose everything, bringing a completely different groups.

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So maybe again, maybe it gives Trade Jones an opportunity
to have even a bigger role because let's face it,
end of the game. Whose answer sitting trade Jones's hands
and R J barretton Yeah, I think it's super smart
of them to do so. Jeff, great job last night.
Thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk to you
very very soon. You gotta thanks man. Jeff Goodman from

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Stadium Sports joining us on the Doug Gotlm Show on
Fox Sport Trades get you, Dan Buyer what Goodman retweeted
that news during the interview that you had. I've noticed
that on social media. Yeah, I wasn't paying attention to him.
He wasn't paying attention to me, so that that was Uh,
we were all paying attention though. It will be paying
attention tonight in Minneapolis when Texas Tech takes out Virginia

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for the National Championship. Chris Beard and the Texas Tech
Red Raiders got there by beating Michigan State on Saturday.
Tony Bennett and the Cavaliers got there over over Auburn
with the win that you guys just talked about Tony
Bennett talking about well, his team. You hope, you have
a vision and you hope, but you never truly know.
You know, when you come in and say this is
gonna happen. We're gonna be uh, you know, a final

(01:51:11):
four team. We're gonna win the A C C. You
believe it and you hope it, and then you just
go to work. Tip off again nine twenty Eastern time tonight.
Multiple reports a Tennessee men's basketball coach Rick Barnes is
deciding on whether to stay with the balls or go
to U C l A. It's a final. In Chicago,
Cubs dropped the Pirates today tend nothing. Kyle Schwarber his
third home run of the season. Cup started John Lester

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had to leave the game though, after two winnings with
a tight hamstring. Rays have just down the White Sox
in Chicago South side of five to one. Blake Snell
gets the wind striking out eleven Trophy winning quarterack Johnny
Manzel told the Dan Patrick Show, well this good morning, Johnny.
How are you? Good morning, my friend? How are you?
I mean? I got a little bit today. I actually

(01:51:53):
I actually go by John these days, so you know,
I'm just kind of turning over the page and moving
forward a little bit. And that was earlier today have
Fox Sports Radio. John Manzell has been or had been
playing for Memphis and the Alliance of American Football before
they suspended operations. Last week, Florida Panthers hired forber Blackhawks,
said coach Joel Quinnville to be their new head coach.
We'll be back to the dug Out Liep Show in
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but you don't benefit even though you're in the NFL
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Same thing with the NBA, and there's no better guide
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it's gonna be a ten fifteen year in me a career, No,
and never get a chance to be a starter because
his game wasn't kind of developed and gets developed on
the fly. Is harder to develop it at the pro
level than is the college level. Whereas once you if
you come in and you're a lottery pick, well heck,
now you've got a chance. Now you got a chance
to start right away, to fail right away, and then

(01:53:22):
to improve. Saban is absolutely positively right, absolutely positively right. Um,
pretty fascinating stuff to to hear from from Nick Saban
and how it relates to the college basketball news to night.
All right, I got some thoughts on people crushing U
c l a's coaching higher ideals and how they've misfired
so many times it could be kind of the reality

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to it. Plus I'll tell you who wins tonight, and
I rarely do over and under, but I do have
a strong feeling on the over under. Be sure to
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my me and my son Hayes got Laby. You're having
a great tripe. Best part by the trip so far?
H basketball or um snuggling with dad? Yeah, snuggling with
Dad's so pretty cool. Yeah, that's the best. The pool
pooled the hotel. Would you got out of quicker than
I did today? Maybe you're a little soft, a litt

(01:54:48):
little soft. You get a little little soft in your older,
older age. You know he's not soft, Dan Buyer's not soft.
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your stores. I'll tell you what's not soft. Swimming in
an outdoor pool in Medievals today. Yeah, yeah, I know,
I know. That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

(01:55:30):
Not soft to be swimming outdoors. But hey, never mind indoors. Tonight,
Texas Tech takes out of Virginia for the n C
Double A Men's basketball Championship. Those students in Lubbock at
Texas Tech got good news for him. Classes have already
been canceled for tomorrow. Lubbock police actually had to use
tear gas and erati fans following Saturday's win over Michigan State.

(01:55:52):
So the school president says, all right, no classes on
Tuesday for Texas Tech. Okay, so no baskets will be
weave today in Lubbock, Texas or tom teasing. I'm teasing, uh,
Dan Buyer needs your prediction on the game. Represented a
Virginia from the start, So I'm gonna stick with Virginia.
Virginia is a one and a half point favorite. Uh.

(01:56:13):
The over under is one eighteen and he and he
likes to stay over. I think that when when you
think it's gonna be really bad, it usually isn't. So
I'm gonna go over on that total. All right, he's
got a prediction. Virginia's favorite Virginia Texas Tech. What do
you think? Uh? I actually think Virginia is gonna win it.

(01:56:33):
There you go. He's sitting next to me, so he
obviously wants he knows I'm picking Texas Tech. How to
pick Texas Tech in the over? Do you have any
reason why that you want to pick Virginia other than
you just want to pick the opposite of me? Oh? Yeah,
I actually do. What is it? I think that Virginia
is like their program, their coach. I think that they

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can make it all the way they are, all the
way they all they it is when one more I
get one more game. That's what I meant. All right,
get stop? What's how do we win? Edi win championship games?
What we learned the other night? You gotta what play defense, defense,
make not foul on three pointers and make free throws right, yes,
then not turn over against the press? All right? Dan?
When he got next? Caesar's Entertainment has released odds for

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the college basketball season. While Dukey Kentucky are listed at
eight to one shots to win it all, it's Virginia
that has the best odds right now at five to one.
As for Texas next season, there are a thirty to
one shot to cut down the nets. I mean, betting
on college basketball's futures when you don't even know who's
going to be back. I mean, I guess the is
the idea is that Kyle Guy will be back, Kia

(01:57:41):
Clark will be back, and uh Ty Jerome will likely
be back. Maybe maybe he goes prode I don't know.
I don't. I've heard people say it would be a
good pro I don't. I don't see it. Um, but
you know you'd only lose one player. But DeAndre Hunter
is that one player they'll likely lose the NBA trap
maybe they know something we don't if he comes back, Yeah,
I got no problem with that. Um. Uh, I just

(01:58:03):
I'm not willing to venture any sort of guests just now.
As to but do getting Trade Jones back? That sure
helps their argument? Or what else you got? Former Nevada
head coach Eric Musselman. He introduces the new men's basketball
coach at Arkansas Today, Well, Virginia Tech introduced former Wafford
and coach Mike Young has the Hokeyes, new men's basketball coach?
Are either of you confident enough? He's do you know

(01:58:24):
how to call the hogs? No? By are you know
how to call the hogs? Yeah? Yeah, a little bit? One?
It it's uh, what is it? Pig sus? Is that
what it is? They gotta get a pig? Silly me? Hey,
so and then and then after the third one they go, hey,

(01:58:45):
silly razorbacks? Do you want to try pigs? Yeah? You know? No,
Mike getting caught. You sound like Dan Altman back when
he was head coach for like ten days. Okay, we'll
show you and you you live here ife on the
youtubell you'll watch YouTube. What else you got? Dan? That's
also how John sounded drunk after his college graduation, so

(01:59:07):
similar to NBC's Peter King says the Redskins are the
leading Vincent Price liked it that the leading contenders to
acquire Cardinals quarterback Josh Rosen somebody said that one on
Cowherd a couple weeks ago, Ryan Music, who said that
on Colin Cowherd. That not totally sure, Rod, Come on, man,
that was me. I thought it was Hayes. Actually he didn't.

(01:59:32):
You say this too much? You cut his mic off.
I did cut his mike OFFA King also reports Ohio
State quarterback Dwayne Haskins is dropping in the draft, could
be the fourth quarterback selected in a couple of weeks.
You know, it's weird. We're overlooking the fact that Dwayne Haskins,
like Calum, only started a year. And I'm telling you,

(01:59:54):
I watched that Penn State game and under duress, he
looked bad. He looked bad. Um. And you know what,
what I'm trying to think, outside of Alex Smith, what
quarterback has Urban Meyer produced that's played well in the
NFL for a long period of time. I like Dwayne Haskins,
but I do think he's more project than other people. Finally,

(02:00:15):
former Raiders said coach Jack del Rio told the NFL
Network today that he thinks Khalil Mack is a future
Hall of Famer and he feels that those are the
guys that you'd want to keep on your team. Del
Rio dismissed us the Raiders and coach eighteen, paving the
way for John Gruden to take over. Del Rio at it,
it's extremely important to get value for those picks. For
a guy that he called quote one of the great

(02:00:35):
human beings, a great football players that I've ever coached,
end quote two first round picks. There is a lot
of value. I mean anyway, a little bit of bitterness there,
and that's the press. Get out there and pressed that
the press. All right, Hayes, would you encourage people to
come to Minneapolis St. Paul, the Twin Cities? Um? Yes,

(02:00:57):
but also now why uh the idea of it's like crowded.
It's crowded, and you know, the final four was a
little bit crowded. The city was a little bit nuts,
and it was a little bit cooler than you would
have expected. It wasn't as good as Arizona. You like
the weather in Arizona at that I know you did, Um,

(02:01:19):
but you did love Mall of America, all the roller coast,
you know, guys, And we had the Super Bowl here.
We never rode the rides at at the Mall of America.
They were awesome, awesome, we were working too much, all right.
So you have Virginia winning, biers, Virginia winning, I have
Texas Tech winning. We'll talk about who's the national champion
and why they're national chip and get you ready for
the Masters. Say goodbye, hayes By. Fox Sports Radio has

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