The Lakers Disaster Continues

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Virginia Cavalier is gonna join us in fifteen minutes. Karen Butler,
tough Jews, former NBA All Star. He'll join us half
past the hour. Then the head coach of the wah
Who's will join us. Tony Bennett top of next hour.

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will join us u next hour. And then Rick Riley's
gonna join us in studio. We'll talk some golf, We'll
talk about his new book. We'll talk about some masters
with the patrons in a tradition unlike any other, um man,
do we got a lot to get to. Can we
start with Magic Johnson? Okay, so here, here's what happens here?

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What happens all right? Um Generally, when you get to
the end of the season, if the big boss is there,
it means you're gonna get fired at the end of
the season. All right. Magic Johnson was not always in attendance.
You know. He had Michigan State's Final four run. He

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has other appearances, He has other business interests. And the
general thought around the Lakers was if you see Magic,
that means Luke should bring in his playbook. He apparently
had gone and gotten clearance from Genie Buss to fire
Luke Walton before the game, and by all reports apparently

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want to fire Rob Polinka, who's the general manager of
the Lakers, and so instead he he has an impromptu
press conference where he resigns. Wow, and I mean it
was a stunner in it. It was kind of out
of nowhere, and if you thought that the Lakers knew

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it was gonna happen, there was no podium, there was
no desk, there were no dignitaries. This was not the
way that Magic would would traditionally do it. Magic's about big,
Magic's about showy. This is a guy who spends a
month every summer on a yacht traveling around the world.
Magic is not somebody who walks in quietly and just

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hey man, I think I'm gonna step aside and go
on to something else. So there's a lot of questions
that are still yet left unanswered. There's a lot of
rumors out there. But the meantime, here's Magic Johnson sharing
what went wrong with the Lakers. What I didn't like
is the backstabbing and the whisper and I don't like that,
you know, I don't like, Um a lot of things

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that went on that didn't have to go on. And
so I hope that after tomorrow and the Lakers can
head in the right direction, which we are. The backstabbing huh,
the rumors huh. Here's what he said about his relationship
with gentleman grew Rob Blinka. I got to know Rob.
I didn't know Rob before Jeannie put us together, and

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so uh, um, it took us a while. You know,
we had to get to know each other. Um, and
so my relationship got a good relationship. Um, it's as
good as you like. You wishouldn't wish Rob? What? No, No,
the relationship with Rob is fine. I just didn't know

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him and he didn't know me because we got put together,
and so I think we had to get to know
each other and then learn how to work with each other.
So we did that. Um. But you know, it has
nothing to do with me stepping down, if that's what
you're asking me. That is not exactly a ringing endorsement, right,

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Remember this the only front office in the league that
does not have an assistant general manager, Rob Polinka, who's
the longtime agent of Kobe Bryant. And obviously if they
don't know each other, and that means and Kobe and
Magic aren't exactly boys. And it wasn't like he's like, no,
I love Rob, robs my guy. Yeah, we didn't know

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each other beforehand, but I just feel better for having
known him. I mean, we can see what this is, right.
We may be we were born at night, but just
not last night. The idea that we can sit here
and listen to Magic. Johnson tell us he didn't like

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the backstabbing, he didn't like the rumors, and not have
any sort of praise until today on Twitter towards Rob
Polinka tells you all you need to know, and then
you read this from Peter Vessey, got his own site.
Rob Polinka is the most disrespected agent ever, snapped a
hardened executive. There's no bigger liar. Magic made a break

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for it. This is from Peter Vessey. I'm guessing for
good reason because he knew damaging assertions were coming his
his dessert. His desertion may have been sudden, but it
was not surprising. Most assertions center on on what his
non existent work ethic. Magic was never there, and then
he got mad because Rob Polinko would say he's never there,

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And of course he was so defensive about not being
there and not liking the progress that he was going
to fire everybody else, even though he wasn't really as
much a part of the process as he should have been.
The classic tale athletes think we have great work ethic,
and generally I believe that you hire great athletes. You

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hire athletes because they do. They do push through pain,
they do push through other other boundaries. But star athletes
are completely different. They're so coddled, they're so acted that
they're never called on their own mistakes or they were
never ever called on their own inadequacies, just not You

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also have to remember that Magic Johnson is a guy who, uh,
I think people deemed as some genius businessman in Los
Angeles because he was always magic, and you know, putting
movie theaters in central south central Los Angeles and only
Starbucks was seen as some groundbreaking move. But the real

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magic is outside of the court. Is the coaching disaster,
is the late night talk show disaster. Is the guy
who had nothing really to do with the reinvention of
the Dodgers, and the guy who uh opined for the job,
stabbed everyone else in the back to get the job,
then finally got the job and didn't want to do

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what was necessary to complete the job. And of course
there's these stories out there that there's uh some sort
of ESPN slam piece that is upon us and that
maybe he got out ahead of it. All of that
makes sense because to walk up in front of the
cameras three or four hours before you're supposed to fire

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the head coach and you got approval to do so
and say to hell with it, I'm out doesn't make sense.
Doesn't make any sense. So look, I think that the
Lakers job is a big time job. I would guess
that all the big boys in the NBA will want it,
and when they get it, they'll clean house. And the

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only question is how do they handle the Lebron situation?
The second question is how do they do they? Can
they get the right guy so that to become a
destination for free agents again, but what a fascinating turn
of events in l A where what was a foregone
conclusion that Luke Walton would be fired last night or
to a is suddenly not at the forefront instead. It's

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why I would Magic Johnson pull the ripcord after he
got some form of support from Genie Buss fired the
head coach. Felt like Magic fired himself last night, and
he should have from a job that he thought he
wanted but didn't actually want to do. What else is
behind it? More to come? Um. He hid arguably the

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most iconic free throws in college basketball in the last
twenty five years, and he escaped from the past of
his man Bun. Kyle Guy is the guy in Charlottesville.
He was also named the most outstanding player in the
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Doug Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. Well, the good news
is Matt Johnson and now tweeted people. Right. That's listen right,
that's oh oh, here's the bad news. He's terrible at Twitter.

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He is terrible at Twitter. That's that's the bad news.
The good news is that you know, why why are
you quitting Magic? Well, you know, I wanted to tweet
it guys, but they would say I'm empering. That's a
and in what world is that a legit reason for
quitting as president of the l A Lakers. Maggie Johnson's

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world is the answer that makes complete. He's sitting there
go yep, yeah, that bad it makes They'll they'll buy it?
Will they buy it? They'll they'll buy it. It's like
a bunch of kids sitting around going like, Okay, we
gotta come up with a story. They're cano big ideas,
like let's all get our stories straight. Let's say we
want to quit because we want to tweet. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Ryan,

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What do you think Ryan? Isn't it the biggest endorsement
of why there are pr employees because whenever somebody tries
to just go off the cuff and they clearly haven't
prepared for questions or follow up statements, they are completely

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exposed for why you need prple to point you in
the right direction, because thinking that you could get away
by saying yeah, you know, I want to tweet and
go back to being me, and thinking that's going to
be an acceptable answer that won't raise eyebrows for people
is completely absurd. Well, I think people have bought the thing,
the I want to go back to being Magic Johnson thing,

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and there's lots of people in our business we're like, oh, yeah,
it totally makes sense. He didn't want to work, He
just wants to hang out and be Magic Johnson. Like yeah, okay,
I'm sure that's some of it, but yes, the the
I I wish I could have tweeted congratulations to Dwyane
Wade and to Dirk Navitski. I mean, look, it's not
only is it comical, but it's also wrong. Dwyane Wade

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and Dirk NAVITZI aren't gonna play next year in the NBA.
You're not tampering with two guys that are retired. Duh.
I'm not saying anything. We don't all think, we don't
all know it. Just it's one of those things that
where he kept going. You're like, man, somebody tell him
to stop talking. We got it, you don't want the
job anymore. But now you're coming up with just bizarre

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excuses and things that make you sound even less intelligent.
And I don't think he's a dumb human being. I
just think that when you when you say things there
have truth. This is what what comes out. All Right,
we'll get more reaction to Magic Johnson's stunning resignation upcoming later.
Um Tony Bennet's gonna join his upcoming later's Virginia's head coach.

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So we'll make sure and play back any critical comments
that Kyle Guy makes about his head coach. I'm kidding.
Kyle Guy joins us on the Doug Gottlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, here's there's a bunch of things
I really want to know that. I don't know if
people ask you last year when you guys lose. Did
he ever just come in the locker room and just
get pissed at you guys? And because to everybody else,
he never goes super high, he never goes super low,

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you know. But is there ever a moment where he
closed the door and look, don't anybody tell you but
you m efforts this and that. Did that ever happen? No?
I Uh, he did a fantastic job after that loss
of you know, consoling us while also uh, you know,
letting us know that he had had our backs and
that we're gonna get through this together. So he's not

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like that. He's one of the most genuine guys I
ever met. Obviously, he gets fired up on defense and whatnot. Um.
And one of the best stories his last year of
planning for Giant Tech and Devin Hall is having an
off game or something. Coach says, I'm not gonna yell
at you, but and then he just starts yelling at
him and screaming. But it was it was positive reinforcement.
But Will raised his voice every once in a while.

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Has he given you positive reinforcement from cutting off that
man butt from your freshman year? Oh? Yeah, No, Um,
he he didn't have too much to say about it.
I think if I would have known the magnitude of
what social media would have done to that, I probably
probably wouldn't have grown it out. Um, but you know,
it ended up being all right, here's the most important thing.

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You had an outstanding fade this past weekend. Did you
have did you go to a special barber? Did you
have a fade specialist? Did you bring a guy in
from Indiana? Happened? Um? Actually, the n C Double A
supplied all of the final four teams with their own barber.
So I had a guy that that cuts the Minnesota
timber Wolves, and he cut us in Minneapolis, and yeah,

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he was great. All right. So the Kyle guy fade?
What what using a garden the side? No no guard,
one guard to guard? What are you doing? I'm a
I'm a ball fade taper kind of guy. So just
that's what makes me feel the most clean. So hey, dude,
it worked. Um. Lost in the three made free throws
in the semifinals was the three beforehand, which I felt like,

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you know, they closed space on you kind of the
time before and he didn't put his hands up. You're
you're down four and look at the previous game, you're
down three with five seconds to go, so you're not
supposed to be freaking out. Take me back, you're down
four against Auburn. What's going what's going on? Yeah? Coach
called a great play, a little you know, backscreen to
a corner screen, little l action and it and and

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you know, we've ran that all year and I've gotten
really good at being able to catch it with my
feet not square, so like the defender doesn't necessarily know
if I'm going to shoot it or not, even if
he's close. Um, And I just sort of pump faked
once and then rose up and and obviously my teammates
had confidence in me to make it and as well
as I did. So then then you guys, foul. Jared
Harper goes a line and and he missed. He misses

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the second one, like again lost in some of this
is like, look, dude, they just made their free throws.
Even the foul would have would have taken it to overtime. Um,
and then you know, they they start fouling. Did you
did you see did you see ty lose the basketball
and what could what probably should have been a double dribble? Yeah,
you know, um, if we could go back and change

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or make every single call that happened. I'm sure we'd
you know, still be dissecting the first game of the season. So, um,
I did see the replay obviously. Uh you know they
missed a call on unties double dribble off. I missed
where uh Semere Daddy traveled to play before. Um they

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I mean, you know, the rest are gonna miss stuff.
I think some Mere Daddy had one of the best
answers ever, is you know, they don't tell me how
to shoot the ball, so I'm not going to tell
them how to reff. I thought, Um, you know they
most of them handled it with class. Okay, so you
run the play and that that you guys have run
that play several times before you catch in the corner,
you go up to shoot, and you come down, he's
in your space and they call the foul. But there's

(17:28):
kind of I was in the arena. There was kind
of pandemonium because half the place didn't hear the whistle
blow and they thought they had won. What were you thinking,
you knew that there was a foul called. What are
you telling yourself to get yourself ready to shoot the
free throws? Yeah? I actually kind of just wanted to
tell myself what was at stake. Um. I wanted to
know that there was seventy people there. I wanted to

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know that there are millions watching, and that you know,
these are gonna be the biggest free throws in my life.
So his own Dan knocked down the first two coach
calls time out. I didn't want anything to do with
the huddle. I didn't hear one word. I don't even
know what the plan was if I made or miss,
So I just I had no option but to make it.
I kind of just wanted to be by myself in
my zone. I looked at my family and my fiance

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and the stands, and I gave me comfort. So I
knocked it down. Okay, So what's what's the Kyle Guy
free throw a routine? How many dribbles? One dribble, take
a deep breath, and shoot the ball. I don't I
used to do the regiment of three dribbles, but you know,
there's less thinking going on when you just take one
dribble and shoot it. It's more natural. But you aim backgrim?
Do you aim over the front of the rim? Do

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you just look at the hoop? What's your what's your
You're a great shooter, so what's what? I put my
hand in the cookie jar. That's the first thing I
was taught when I learned how to shoot in the
seventh grade. So I just put my hand in the
cookie jar and have a confidence. What's that feeling like
when the ball goes to the net? Free throw? It's
so great? Um. Again, I didn't know what we were doing,
so for a second, I was like panicking, like, Okay,

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who am I guarding? Like what's the plan? Um? Obviously
I threw a deep and and and it didn't matter.
But once the buzzer shouted, was one of the one
of the better feelings I've ever felt. It was it
was sweet Kyle Guy joining us in the Doug Gotlib
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, it would seem to
me as though and I had. I did a podcast

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to Miles Simon, who is the like you the MLP?
Kyle guys the m OP that the most outstanding player.
They don't do m VP to do MOUST Outstanding Player
of the Final four And Miles one of my childhood
friends and he was the m OP and nineties seven.
He's like, dude the time between the semifinals and the
finals is so long because you gotta do media and
you've got a practice in the game's not tonight. What

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what was that? What was that? Like? The the lag
between UH the incredible win against Auburn and the championship game. Yeah,
you know, we've had obviously some experience with UH, one
of the most historic bosses ever, so it was easy
for us to keep our minds right. Um. You know,
we've celebrated with our family, and then once we figured
out we're playing Texas Tech is when we you know,

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settled down and starting to started to focus. You know.
The next day it was just a new day. Yeah,
we had a lot of media, we had practice and whatnot,
but we just try to cherish every moment and and
and enjoy the experience. So I think that helps with
the passing the time. Movie the night before was there
was there a fired up movie that's going to go
down in history as your movie that that won the
National Championship. I room with Rex and Key, so you know,

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I'm catching him up on Game of Thrones. So that's
what we watched, you know, uh watch about all of
the bastards and got real high. Okay, so so you
get ready for the game. You guys get out to
a lead now of a sudden, now they have a
lead late and like here we here we go again,
here we go again. Uh with you guys. Odias makes
the free throw to put him up three, but they

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didn't take him out of the game. Is that part
of what led to DeAndre getting such a wide open
look was they had they left their center on the
floor and so he got switched up on tie. Yeah,
you know, I think they trusted their their system. They've
switched one through five with the was Odias before and
he is actually a pretty good on ball defender with guards. Um,

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and they knew that they were helping backside because they
flood flood heavy team. Um, I think Ty just made
you know, one of the better one of one of
the better plays that that we're going to see. So, um,
you know, all the credit goes to ty Andre, to
be honest, is it? Is it? What's what's more fun
making the free throws yourself? Are watching that ball in
the air when your teammate shoots it and knowing it's

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going to go in. Um, you know, I guess it's
probably a tie, But no, this seeing DeAndre I throw
the ball in the air once we won, and being
able to you know, go go, go, hug Alexa, my fiance,
and hug my parents and my teammates. That was the
sweetest feeling ever. Um, You've had a couple of days
to have it settle in. What's it feel like to

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be in that not just to be a national champion,
but to do so considering what happened last year and
then considering what's happened this year. Three games in a
row where other teams would lose. You guys found a way.
Has it said in yet? Um? No, it doesn't really
feel real. Um, you know campus or grounds, really do
they They're feeling it. They're having a blast, which is awesome.

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And um, you know, I had to stay after a
few classes to take some pictures or whatnot. So they're
enjoying it, which is which is all fun stuff. So
I'm just trying to, you know, let everybody know how
grateful I am to be in this position. All Right,
I got one piece of advice. I know, you gotta
go we do two. Okay, this is a very important
piece of advice for Kyle guy who's gonna get married
to Alexa Okay, I know you talked about your wedding registry.

(22:29):
You do know that you're supposed to get her a
present today of your wedding, right, Yes, I do know that. Okay,
all right, you gotta make sure surprise or something like
the two presidents that they don't tell guys when you're
growing up there you're that one. And then the day
you have your first kid, you gotta get her a
push president as well. So these are right, So so
remember something to surprise your wedding day and then something

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surprised when you have your first kid. Deal, alright, appreciate that.
Hey man, congratulations, enjoy all the victory laps you guys
have earned. It appreciates you joining us. Thank you so much.
Kyle guy, he's a no guard. No guard on the fade,
no guard. His fade was the fades were clean. I
like that. People say the n C doesn't give him anything.

(23:10):
They give him their own barber. Huh, pay the players.
They have to pay for those fades. Dan Buyron knows
how expensive fade is. He's got his own personal Dan,
Dan get your He's got his posse's got his group,
he got his his barber. You gotta have to have
your barber stay outside and get out out of the studio. Okay, Dad,
when he got hair stylist, stylist, what is your what

(23:33):
is your what is your haircut style? What do you do? Um?
I just tell her to cut it close on the
sides and a little short on top. And yeah, it's
like a one. It's one on the sides. Tight tight.
Summer months. Summer's coming, Yes, summer's coming. Yeah. Lebron James,
apparently stunned that Magic Johnson stepped aside, is the president

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of basketball operations with the Los Angeles Lakers. That's according
to a report by ESPN, and the report goes on
to say that GM Rob Polinka will stay on with
the team. On the heels of Magic's departure, the Lakers
did make a move dismissing head athletic trainer Marc o'non yez.
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all right, let's let's welcome in Kron Butler, Farmer, NBA
All Star, NBA Champion. Uh we we we thought we
would be talking about Dwyane Wade retiring and Dirk Navitsky retiring.
Instead we're talking about the Lakers and Magic Johnson going
back into the public sector and essentially retiring or firing himself.
Uh tough, choose. What's what's your what's your immediate reaction

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when you heard the news last night? You know what,
thanks happing me on, Doug. I was shocked initially thinking about,
you know what Magic has meant, you know, to the
Los Angeles latest organization into the city of Los Angeles,
and you know, the pursuit of excellence and what he's
standing for. True champion, one of the best and uh

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best to do it from an entrepreneurial standpoint, a guy
that made the sinless transition from basketball floor to all
the things in business. And then it was just I've
never seen him, you know, uh, you know, walk away
from anything but the things that stuck out to me
in this conversation and when he announced it was, you
know this the burden and the loneliness, and he mentioned

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a phrase the backstabbing and the energy, and that he
wanted to keep it classy and he wanted to walk
away on the high note. All right, So, but but
you can't. You can't, like, you can't have it both ways,
as you know, you can't say I don't like the
backstabbing and then people go, but I'm gonna take the
high road, like no, you basically called somebody backstabbers. Who
is he referring to? You have no idea, and you

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know that has yet to be seen and heard, and
you know, I'm pretty sure at some point he's gonna
have to elaborate on some of the statements that he made.
But you know, you can do that thing, you know, uh,
you know, we we've seen in different phases. You know,
you know as well as I know. You know, guys
sign on the contract, whether it's in the entertainment space
or president of basketball or whatever profession that you signed

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on to, and that things don't go you know, to
your liking or accordingly, and sometimes people walk away from
it or you see breaches of contracts, so you see whatever. Uh,
and it happens in all business. It just happens to
be one of the most celebrated, most decorated athletes that
we ever seen, you know, doing it, and that's why
it's big headlines and big news. Doug Gottli Show, you're

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NBA All Star. You can also hear him on Fox
Sports Radio and of course he covers the NBA for
for Turner Sports for for t nt UM. Couple more
on on the Lakers. All right, how do you fix it?
How do you fix it? I mean, I think if
I had that answer, I'll be you know what, I'm

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making about six million dollars more a year. Uh. Think
it's one of those situations in which you know, you
gotta start at the foundation of the problem, and you
know you gotta get you know, the right people in
vertical order aligne and you need a president now, and
you know you have to address the coaching issue. Is
it is it going to be an issue going forward?

(28:27):
You gotta address the personnel. Uh. Can you acquire a
big time creating on that short list? When you're talking
about the Clay Thompson's, Kawhi Leonards, Kevin Durant possibly, uh
And is that enough you know they get the Lakers
over the hunt or do you aim and take your
shot at you know, b list guys. You know, I've

(28:47):
seen Lebron James acquired talent and you know, take a
bunch of guys that will get typical house whole names
to an NBA finals. So I think it's just all
about chemistry and you know, getting that foundation and that
momentum trending in your right direction. But you have to
if you want to acquire a free agent, a big
name free agent in the off season, you have to

(29:09):
get your house in order, and and they have to
have the coach in order, and and they got to
make sure that they have a president order where you
approaching free agency because the guy that you're drafting has
to be a guy that when you go to Creators
that there has to be a stable factor of stability
is saying look, we're stable, this is what we're doing
going forward. You can't have chaos and right now you

(29:32):
have no stabilities. If uh, if you could pick one
player's career, would it be dirt Nvitski who you played with,
or Dwane Wade, who you played against. Well, I want
a championship with Dirt, so I'm gonna say Dirk all day.
But you know, they're both my brothers, and you know

(29:52):
that that's a that's a tough one for me. Obviously,
I can't pick both because you put me in the
A B situation, But if if if I, if I could,
I would pick both just because I had so much history. Uh,
they both are my friends, my brothers for life. Dwayne's
been my friend long after basketball, will continue to be
that way, and Dirk also so. But I had, you know,

(30:15):
just a tremendous a model of success two thousand eleven
NBA Champs, Dallas Mavericks and we we we lost some
great ones yesterday. It's you know, it's just amazing to
see that. And I'm glad that they were received with
open arms as they should be. And also look at
what happened that's getting overshadowed with the Maggie Johnson news
and Dwayne Way the dirt. But while Jamal Crawford, you know,

(30:36):
four different teams, four different situations on the back end
of his career, being thirty nine years old and going
out there and putting on that demonstration, was scoring fifty
plus points. You know, I'm a basketball guy in my
basketball head, and that was just a special performance. And
there's one for the ages right there, for any basketball
guys out there. And then and then also what happened
last night with the you know, with the Rockets potentially

(30:58):
lining up against the war Years uh in the second
in the in the in the conference semifinals, like, look,
that's still not kind of determined who plays who in
the Western Conference. It really is. And look, and anybody
that has to face the Oklahoma City Thunder, even though
they happed to plan their best basketball, they showed us
a lot of flashes last night, and particularly Paul George

(31:21):
making that shot in the corner so win the game.
That was a huge shot. But also the growth and
development of a Russia Westbrook. Anybody that knows Russell Westbrook
I played in that locker room, went to the Western
Conference finals with Oklahoma City thunderback of two thousand fourteen
fifteen season. I'll tell you Russell Westbrook nine times out
of tins. Let me correct myself ten times out of

(31:43):
ten when it took taking that shot. But He showed
a ton of poison maturity when he had Capella on him,
kicked it to the corner and Paul George stepped up
and knocked down that shot. It was just amazing to
see that, so, you know, close to him and I'm
happy to see that growth from his standpoint. Great stuff.
Thanks to join us. That's Corn Butler joining us on

(32:03):
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Wow. Crazy, right,
like the Magic Johnson News is so big and overshadowed,
Dirk and Dwyane Wade retiring, which overshadowed would actually happen
on the floor, which is gonna change, uh, the NBA
playoffs and might have the the Thunder matching up with

(32:23):
the Rockets in the first round. What are you saying music,
I was just saying it was wild, wild, wild night.
I mean, this is that's sort of how it goes, right.
I mean, all of the drama is always gonna outshadow
stuff in the moment that we're like, oh yeah, I
mean Thunder gonna win whatever, you know, um, and it's
actually gonna have some huge implications down the line. Um. So,

(32:47):
as of now, as of right now, Warriors are the
one seed. The Blazers are the four seed. Remember the
Blazers are They're not going to play Um, They're not
gonna play c J. McCullum or uh or Damian Lillard
in the last game of the season. So it stands
the reason that they're going to remain the four seed,
which puts the Rockets and the Nuggets, I believe, on

(33:10):
a dead end on a collision course. Now the Thunder,
the Thunder are the six seed, right, so one with
eight two Nuggets, with Spurs, three Rockets, potentially with the
Oklahoma City Thunder in the first round. Not only is
Lakers GM rob blink of staying you might actually be

(33:31):
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Fox Sports Radio. Well, the good news is Matt Johnson

(34:22):
and now tweeted people. Right, that's listen right, that's oh. Oh,
here's the bad news. He's terrible at Twitter. He is
terrible at Twitter. That's that's the bad news. The good
news is that you know, why why are you quitting? Magic? Well,
you know, I wanted to tweet it, guys, but they

(34:44):
would say I'm tampering. That's a and in what world
is that a legit reason for quitting as president of
the l A Lakers. Magic Johnson's world is the answer
that makes complete easy there go yeah, yeah, that bad
it makes they'll they'll buy it? Will they buy it?
They'll they'll buy it. It's like a bunch of kids

(35:06):
sitting around and going like, Okay, we gotta come up
with a story. They can give me ideas like let's
all get our stories straight. Let's say we want to
quit because we want a tweet? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Ryan,
what do you think Ryan, isn't it the biggest endorsement

(35:27):
of why there are PR employees because whenever somebody tries
to just go off the cuff and they clearly haven't
prepared for questions or follow up statements, they are completely
exposed for why you need PR people to point you
in the right direction, because thinking that you could get

(35:48):
away by saying yeah, you know, I want to tweet
and go back to being me, and thinking that's going
to be an acceptable answer that won't raise eyebrows for
people is completely absurd. Well, I think people have bought
the thing I want to go back to being Magic
Johnson thing, and there's lots of people in our business
we're like, oh, yeah, I totally makes sense. He didn't
want to work, He just wants to hang out and
be Magic Johnson. Like yeah, okay, I'm sure that's some

(36:10):
of it, but yes, the the I I wish I
could have tweeted congratulations to Dwyane Wade and to Dirk Navitsky.
I mean, look, it's not only is it comical, but
it's also wrong. Dwyane Wade and Dirk NAVITZI aren't gonna
play next year in the NBA. You're not tampering with
two guys that are retired. Duh, I'm not saying anything.

(36:35):
We don't all think, we don't all know it. Just
it's one of those things that where he kept going.
You're like, man, somebody tell him to stop talking. We
got it, you don't want the job anymore. But now
you're coming up with just bizarre excuses and things that
make you sound even less intelligent. And I don't think

(36:55):
he's a dumb human being. I just think that when
you when you say things there have truth. This is
what what comes out. We'll get more reaction to Magic
Johnson's stunning resignation upcoming later. Um Tony Bennet's gonna doin
his upcoming latter's Virginia's head coach. So we'll make sure
and play back any critical comments that Kyle Guy makes

(37:16):
about his head coach. I'mkidding. Kyle Guy joins us on
the Doug Gottlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, here's
there's a bunch of things I really want to know that.
I don't know what people ask you last year when
you guys lose. Did he ever just come in the
locker room and just get pissed at you guys? In time?
Because to everybody else. He never goes super high. He
never goes super low. You know. But is there ever
a moment where he closed the door and look, don't

(37:38):
anybody tell you, but you m efforts this and that.
Did that ever happen? No? I, Uh, he did a
fantastic job after that loss, is you know, consoling us
while also uh, you know, letting us know that he
had had our backs and that we're gonna get through
this together. So he's not like that. He's one of
the most genuine guys I ever met. Obviously, he gets

(37:58):
fired up on defense and whatnot. Um. And one of
the best stories is last year of planning for Janet
Tech and Devin Hall is having an off game or something.
Coach says, I'm not gonna yell at you, but and
then he just starts yelling at him and screaming. But
it was it was positive reinforcement. But Will raised his
voice every once in a while. Has he given you
positive reinforcement from cutting off that man button from your

(38:20):
freshman year? Oh? Yeah, no, Um. He he didn't have
too much to say about it. I think if I
would have known the magnitude of what social media would
have done to that I probably probably wouldn't have grown
it out. Um, but you know it ended up being
all right, here's the most important thing. You had an
outstanding fade this past weekend. Did you have did you
go to a special barber? Did you have a fade specialist?

(38:42):
Did you bring a guy in from Indiana? What happened? Um? Actually,
the n C Double A supplied all the final four
teams with their own barber. So I had a guy
that that cuts the Minnesota Timberwolves, and he cut us
in Minneapolis, and yeah, he was great. All right, So
the how guy fade? What? What? Using a garden the side?
No no guard, one guard to guard? What are you doing?

(39:05):
I'm a I'm a ball fade taper kind of guy.
So just that's what makes me feel the most clean.
So hey, dude, it worked. Um. Lost in the three
made free throws in the semifinals was the three beforehand,
which I felt like, you know, they closed space on
you kind of the time before and he didn't put

(39:26):
his hands up. You're you're down four, and look at
the previous game, you're down three with five seconds to go,
so you're not supposed to be freaking out. Take me back,
you're down four against Auburn. What's going what's going on? Yeah?
Coach called a great play, a little you know, backscreen
to a corner screen, little le action and it and
and you know we've ran that all year and I've

(39:48):
gotten really good at being able to catch it with
my feet not square, so like the defender doesn't necessarily
know if I'm going to shoot it or not, even
if he's close. Um, and I just sort of pump
faked once and then rose up and and to see
my teammates had confidence in me to make it and
as well as I did. So then then you guys, foul.
Jared Harper goes a line and and he missed. He

(40:08):
misses the second one. Like again lost in some of
this is like, look, dude, they just made their free throws.
Even the foul would have would have taken it to overtime. Um,
and then you know they they start fouling. Did you
did you see did you see Ty lose the basketball?
And what could what probably should have been a double dribble? Yeah?
You know, Um, if we could go back and change

(40:30):
or make every single call that happened, I'm sure we'd
you know, still be dissecting the first game of the season. So, um,
I did see the replay obviously, Uh, you know they
missed a call on unties double dribble, also missed where
uh semeir Daddy traveled to play before. Um they I mean,

(40:51):
you know the rest are gonna miss stuff. I think
some here. Daddy had one of the best answers ever,
is you know, they don't tell me how to shoot
the ball, so I'm not going to tell them how
to reff. I thought, Um, you know they most of
them handled it with class. Okay, so you run the
play and that that you guys have run that play
several times before you catch in the corner. You go
up to shoot, and you come down, he's in your
space and they call the foul. But there was kind

(41:13):
of I was in the arena, there was kind of
pandemonium because half the place didn't hear the whistle blow
and they thought they had won. What were you thinking?
You knew that there was a foul called? What are
you telling yourself to get yourself ready to shoot the
free throws? Yeah? I actually kind of just wanted to
tell myself what was at stake. Um, I wanted to
know that there was seventy people there. I wanted to

(41:35):
know that there are millions watching and that you know,
these are gonna be the biggest free throws in my life.
So his own den knocked down the first two coach
cast time out. I didn't want anything to do with
the huddle. I didn't hear one word. I don't even
know what the plan was if I made or miss,
so I just I had no option but to make it.
I kind of just wanted to be by myself in
my zone. I looked at my family and my fiance

(41:56):
and the stands, and I gave me comfort. So I
knocked it down. Okay, So what's the Kyle Guy free
throw routine? How many dribbles? One dribble, take a deep breath,
and shoot the ball. I don't I used to do
the regiment of three dribbles, but you know, ah, there's
less thinking going on when you just take one dribble
and shoot it. It's more natural. But you aim backgrom,
Do you aim over the front of the rim? Do

(42:18):
you just look at the hoop? What's your what's Your're
a great shooter, So what's which? I put my hand
in the cookie jar. That's the first thing I was
taught when I learned how to shoot in the seventh grade.
So I just put my hand in the cookie jar
and have a confidence. What's that feeling like when the
ball goes to the net? Free throw? It's so great? Um. Again,
I didn't know what we were doing, so for a second,
I was like panicking, like, Okay, who am I guarding?

(42:40):
Like what's the plan? Um? Obviously I threw it deep
and and it didn't matter. But once the buzzer shouted
was one of the one of the better feelings I've
ever felt. It was it was sweet Kyle Guy joining
us in the Doug Gotlips Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh,
it would seem to me as though. And I had
I did a podcast and Miles Simon, who is the

(43:01):
like you, the MLP cow guys, the MP, the the
most outstanding player. They don't do m VP to do
MOUST Outstanding Player of the Final four. And Miles one
of my childhood friends, and he was the MP in
nineties seven. He's like, dude, the time between the semifinals
and the finals is so long because you gotta do
media and you've got a practice in the games, not tonight.
What what was that? What was that like the the

(43:22):
lag between UH the incredible win against Auburn and the
championship game. Yeah, you know, we've had obviously some experience
with UH, one of the most historic bosses ever, so
it was easy for us to keep our minds right. Um.
You know, we've celebrated with our family, and then once
we figured out we're playing Texas Tech is when we
you know, settled down and starting to started to focus,

(43:44):
and you know the next day it was just a
new day. Yeah, we had a lot of media, we
had practice and whatnot, but we just try to cherish
every moment and and and enjoy the experience. So I
think that helps with the passing the time movie the
night before was there was there a fired up movie
that's going to go down in history as your movie
that that won the National Championship. I rude with Rex
and Key, so you know, I'm catching him up on

(44:06):
Game of Thrones. So that's what we watched. You know,
UH watched Battle of the Bastards and got real high. Okay,
so so you get ready for the game. You guys
get out to a lead now of a sudden, now
they have a lead late and like here we here
we go again. Here we go again? Uh with you guys.
Odias makes the free throw to put him up three,
but they didn't take him out of the game. Is

(44:29):
that part of what led to DeAndre getting such a
wide open look was they had they left their center
on the floor and so he got switched up on Tie. Yeah,
you know, I think they trusted their their system. They've
switched one through five with the was Odias before and
he's actually a pretty good humball defender with guards. Um,
and they knew that they were helping backside because they

(44:51):
flood flood heavy team. Um, I think Ty just made
you know, one of the better one of one of
the better plays that that we're going to see. So, um,
you know, all the credit goes to Tie Andre, to
be honest, is it? Is it? What's what's more fun
making the free throws yourself or watching that ball in
the air when your teammate shoots it and knowing it's
going to go in. Um, you know, I guess it's

(45:12):
probably a tie, But no, this seeing DeAndre I throw
the ball in the air once we won and being
able to you know, go go go hug Alexa my
fiance and hug my parents. And my teammates. That was
the sweetest feeling ever. Um, You've had a couple of
days to have it settle in. What's it feel like
to be in that not just to be a national champion,
but to do so considering what happened last year and

(45:35):
then considering what's happened this year. Three games in a
row where other teams would lose. You guys found a way.
Has it said in yet? Um No, it doesn't really
feel real. Um, you know campus or grounds, really do
they they're feeling it. They're having a blast, which is awesome.
And um, you know, I had to stay after a
few classes to take some pictures or whatnot. So they're

(45:58):
enjoying it, which is which is all fun stuff. So
I'm just trying to, you know, let everybody know how
grateful I end to be in this position. All Right,
I got one piece of advice. I know you gotta go.
We do two. Okay, this is a very important piece
of advice for Kyle guy who's gonna get married to Alexa. Okay,
I know you talked about your wedding registry. You do
know that you're supposed to get her a present today
of your wedding right, Yes, I do know that. Okay,

(46:20):
all right, you gotta make sure surprise or something like
the two presidents that they don't tell guys when you're
growing up there that one, and then the day you
have your first kid, you gotta get her a push
president as well. So these are right, So so remember
something to surprise your wedding day and then something surprised
when you have your first kid. Deal, Hey man, congratulations,
enjoy all the victory laps you guys have earned. It

(46:42):
appreciates you join us. Thank you so much. Kyle guy,
he's a no guard. No guard on the fade, no guard.
His fade was the fades were clean. I like that.
People say the n C doesn't give him anything. They
give him their own barber. Huh, pay the players. They
have to pay for those fades. Dan Byron knows how

(47:03):
expensive fade is. He's got his own personal Dan, Dan,
get your he's got his posse, he's got his group,
he got his his barber. You got have to have
your barber, stay outside and get out out of the studio, Okay, Dan.
When you got hair stylist, hair stylist, what is your
what is your what is your haircut? Style? What do
you do, um, I just tell her to cut it

(47:23):
close on the sides and a little short on top,
and yeah, it's like a one. It's one on the sides. Yeah,
tight tight summer months. Summer's coming, ye, summer's coming. Yeah.
Lebron James, apparently stunned that Magic Johnson stepped aside, is
the president of basketball operations with the Los Angeles Lakers.

(47:43):
That's a critic to our report by ESPN, and the
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stay on with the team. On the heels of Magic's departure,
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(48:04):
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(48:27):
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(49:12):
Fox Sports Radio. Um, all right, let's let's welcome in
kron Butler Farmer, NBA All Star, NBA Champion. Uh we
we We thought we would be talking about Dwyane Wade
retiring and Dirk Navitsky retiring. Instead we're talking about the
Lakers and Magic Johnson going back into the public sector
and essentially retiring or firing himself. Uh tough, choose. What's

(49:34):
what's your what's your immediate reaction when you heard the
news last name? You know what, thanks for happening me
on Doug. I was shocked initially thinking about, you know
what Magic has meant, you know, to the Los Angeles
Lakers organization, into the city of Los Angeles, cian you know,
the pursuit of excellence and what he's staying for. True champion,

(49:56):
one of the best and uh best of Douar, the
entrepreneurial standpoint, a guy that made the seinless transition from
basketball floor to all the things in business. And then
it was just I've never seen him, you know, uh,
you know, walk away from anything. But the things that
stuck out to me in this conversation and when he

(50:18):
announced it was, you know, just the burden and the loneliness,
and he mentioned a phrase, the backstabbing and the energy
and that he wanted to keep it classy and he
wanted to walk away on the high note. All right, So,
but but you can't. You can't, like, you can't have
it both ways, as you know, you can't say I
don't like the backstabbing and then people go, but I'm

(50:38):
gonna take the high road, Like no, you basically called
somebody backstabbers. Who is he referring to? You have no idea,
and you know that has yet to be seen and heard.
And you know, I'm pretty sure at some point he's
gonna have to elaborate on some of the statements that
he made. But you know you can do that thing,
you know, Uh, you know, we we've seen in different phases.

(50:59):
You know, you know as well as I know. You know,
guy signed on the contract, whether it's in the entertainment
space or president of basketball or whatever profession that you
signed on to and if things don't go you know,
to your liking or accordingly, and sometimes people walk away
from it or you see breaches of contracts. So you
see whatever, uh, and it happens in all business. It

(51:21):
just happens to be one of the most celebrated, most
decorated athletes that we ever seen you know, doing it
and that's why it's big headlines and big news. Doug
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(51:41):
A couple more on on the Lakers. All right, how
do you fix it? How do you fix it? I mean,
I think if I had that answer, I'll be you know,
I'm making about six million dollars more a year. Uh.
To think it's one of those situations in which you know,
you gotta start at the foundation of the ol Man.
You know, you gotta get you know, the right people

(52:04):
in vertical order aligned and you need a president now,
and you know you have to address the coaching issue.
Is it? Is it going to be an issue going forward?
It you gotta address the personnel? Uh? Can you acquire
a big time free agent on that short list we're
talking about the Clay Thompson's, Kawai Leonards, Kevin Durant possibly? Uh?

(52:24):
And is that enough? You know they get the Lakers
over the hunt or do you aim and take your
shot at you know, b list guys. You know, I've
seen Lebron James acquire talent and you know, take a
bunch of guys that wasn't typical house whole names to
an NBA finals. So I think it's just all about
chemistry and you know, getting that foundation and that momentum

(52:46):
trending in your right direction. But you have to if
you want to acquire a free agent, a big name
free agent in the off season, you have to get
your house in order, and and and they have to
have the coach in order, and and they got to
make sure that they have a president order where you
approach your free agency because the guys that you're drafting
has to be a guy that when you go to

(53:07):
creatives that it has to be a stable. Factor of
stability is saying, look, we're stable, this is what we're
doing going forward. You can't have chaos, and right now
you have no stabilities. If uh, if you could pick
one player's career, would it be Dirt Nvitski, who you
played with, or Dwyane Wade who you played against. Well,

(53:29):
I won a championship with Dirt, so I'm gonna say
Dirk all day. But you know, they're both my brothers,
and you know that that's a that's a tough one
for me. Obviously, I can't pick both because you put
me in the A B situation. But if I, if I,
if I could, I would pick both this because I
had so much history. They both are my friends, my

(53:51):
brothers for life. Dwayne's been my friend long after basketball,
will continue to be that way, and Dirk also so.
But I had, you know, just a tremendous model of
success two thousand eleven NBA Champs, Dallas Mavericks and we
we we lost some great ones yesterday. It was you know,
it's just amazing to see that, and I'm glad that
they were received with open arms, as they should be.

(54:12):
And also look at what happened. That's getting overshadowed with
the Madnew Johnson news and the wine Way the dirt.
But while Jamal Crawford, you know, four different teams, four
different situations on the back end of his career, being
thirty nine years old and going out there and putting
on that demonstration, was scoring fifty plus points. You know,
I'm a basketball guy in a basketball head, and that

(54:33):
was just a special performance. And there's one point the
ages right there for any basketball guys out there. And
then and then also what happened last night with the
you know, with the Rockets potentially lining up against the Warriors,
uh in the second in the in the in the
conference semifinals. Like, look, that's still not kind of determined
who plays who in the Western Conference. It really is.

(54:54):
And look, and anybody that has to face the Oklahoma
City Thunder, even though they happened to plan there basketball,
they showed us a lot of flashes last night, and
particularly Paul George making that shot in the corner so
win the game. That was a huge shot, but also
the growth and development of a Russell Westbrook. Anybody that

(55:15):
knows Russell Westbrook I played in that locker room, went
to the Western Conference finals with Oklahoma City thunderback of
two thousand of fourteen fifteen season. I'll tell you Russell
Westbrook nine times out of tins. Let me correct myself
ten times out of ten when it took taking that shot.
But he showed a ton of poison maturity when he
had Capello on the kicked it to the corner and

(55:36):
Paul George stepped up and knocked down that shot. It
was just amazing to see that, so, you know, close
to him and I'm happy to see that growth from
his stand port. Great stuff. Tough to you. Thanks for
joining us, Karen Butler joining us on the Doug Otlik
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Wow crazy, right, like the
Magic Johnson News is so big and overshadowed Dirk and

(55:58):
Dwyane Wade retiring, which overshadowed would actually happen on the floor,
which is gonna change, uh, the NBA playoffs and might
have the the Thunder matching up with the Rockets in
the first round. What are you saying music, I was
just saying it was wild, wild night. I mean, this
is that's sort of how it goes, right. I mean,

(56:18):
all of the drama is always gonna outshadow stuff in
the moment that we're like, oh yeah, I mean Thunder
gonna win whatever, you know, Um, and it's actually gonna
have some huge implications down the line. Um. So as
of now, as of right now, Warriors are the one seed.
The Blazers are the four seed. Remember the Blazers are

(56:39):
They're not going to play Um, They're not gonna play
c J. McCollum or uh or Damian Lillard in the
last game of the season. So it stands the reason
that they're going to remain the four seed, which puts
the Rockets in the Nuggets, I believe on a dead
end on a collision course. Now the Thunder, the Thunder

(56:59):
are the six seed, right, so one with eight two Nuggets,
with Spurs, three Rockets, potentially with the Oklahoma City Thunder
in the first round. Not only is Lakers GM rob
blink of staying, you might actually be getting more powers
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Real news? Fake news? There it is. That's the game
that we are playing today, Doug, Real news or fake news?
Lakers GM Rob Polenka is likely to have increased power

(58:46):
within the organization now that Magic Johnson has gone. Is
that real news? Real news? They're real and the spectac Yeah,
Blink is gonna stay on ESPN reporting that You'll likely
take on more of the responsibility now and I've more
power within that organization. Yeah, I actually think that's going.
That's one of those true for the short term, not

(59:07):
for the long term, right, Like, my guests would be,
they're going to hire somebody else to run the thing,
and when he runs the thing, eventually he'll bring in
his own GM and his own assistant GM. They won't
make that mistake twice. So yes, in the short term,
he will be the guy, you know, unless they allow
rob B Lincoln to bring in the President of Basketball
Operations and assistant GM. My guests would be that his

(59:29):
days are in fact numbered, even if they're not, even
if right now it's like short term promotion, long term loss.
Real news or fake news that every Major League Baseball
team is worth at least one billion dollars. Ah, that
feels like real news. They're real and they're spectacular. Forbes
coming out with their list of the valuations for all

(59:50):
thirty Major League Baseball teams, the Yankees the most valuable
at four point six billion, the Marlins the least valuable,
but they have passed the one billion dollar mark. Maybe
what's more amazing is that the Yankees are worth more
than a billion or a billion dollars more than the
second place team, the Dodgers, who are valued at three
point three billion dollars. Wait, wait, wait, So the Yankees

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are valued at four point six billion number one, the
Dodgers second three point three billion. So the Yankees are
worth the a billion dollars more than the second most
valuable team in baseball. That makes sense, and actually I
mean the Yankees. Yeah, you know, plus they have Yankee
Stadium as well, that that's part of their their valuation.
Just a huge, huge gap. I don't think they see

(01:00:34):
that in the NFL. I know the Cowboys are valuable,
but those are only the Cowboys are worth a billion
dollars more than I don't think so I don't think
that they are. I'm not. I mean, it's one of
those things we're valuing something that's never going to be sold,
like nobody's coming up with the five six billion dollars.
But I would say they are. Uh, and that stadium
is a huge reason. Well's they have the stadium, They
have the the big cowboy world right, their fair practic

(01:00:57):
facility where they actually host games as well, and then
Draft is gonna be there. So music has the numbers. Yeah,
they actually are Dan Cowboys five billion, number two, Patriots
three point eight one point two billion dollars more. How
about that Giants were what on that list. I actually
thought they were actually third, just behind the Patriots at

(01:01:20):
three point three billion. They remained flat, so the Patriots
actually jumped then then a three point gain over this year.
It said the Giants gained no value in the past year.
Real news are fake news that Master's chairman Fred Ridley
told reporters the tournament would institute a master's golf ball
to try and combat the distance issue in the sports

(01:01:41):
it is. In fact, he says that it's very unlikely
that the club would do that. Uh. In fact, that
rumor has been around for years and years and years,
and Redley saying today now that's not likely to happen, So, um,
there's probably not much that can be done. I don't
know how you can necessarily move back in technology when

(01:02:03):
everybody like you and me would love to hit the
ball further and see the ball go further and further
and further. And it doesn't seem that golf is willing
to make separate rules for their tour and their championship
from you and me playing Doug. That's kind of the rub. Yeah,
But I mean like softball bats for a guy's softball
league are different than Major League baseball. Bats are different

(01:02:25):
than Little league bats are different, right like you can
change that. The balls are also different. The balls are
different from flag football is supposed to NFL football. I
I think the idea that a Master's specific ball. I
do think there'll be some legislation on on ball flight,
on composition of balls, because we're getting we're getting to
the point of being ridiculous. Well that's where the problem comes.

(01:02:45):
As the companies are sitting there saying, what do you
You know you have to separate. You'd have to separate
what you and I do. Then what you know the
they can do it? They know they can do it,
you know. I mean, look, there's a limit to what
they can do now, so you're just increasing those limitations.
Really lose your fake news. Technology advancements this year will

(01:03:05):
allow the Masters to provide video of every single shot
struck by every player in the tournament. Masters does have
some advantages with the limited field eighty seven players playing
and the Masters in en but yes, within about five
or ten minutes of that player hitting a shot, you
should be able to go on the Masters website around

(01:03:26):
the app and see that shot being struck. I'm watching
Jack Nicholas at the Part three, take his time. Just
the ball, Nicholas is I learned seventy yards out. I
believe he's got a three iron. He hits it, it's
gonna be short of degree. Um. I love watching Jack

(01:03:47):
tea off ceremonial first team. I'm not sure I love
him playing in the part three just because they're only
a hundred yards. No, but he can't get it. They're like,
you know, well, what's he gonna do? Hit driver and
then that would be amazing and up heart when he
said he was short, I mean he just he hit
a wedge to hunt. I mean he's like that was

(01:04:07):
not a wedge, like a hundred yards. Yeah, they're they're
fine quickly, real news your fake news. One former NFL
head coach isn't Tonio Brown is going to be a
pain in the ass for the Raiders. Sounds like real news.
They're real set. Yeah. Former Raider's head coach Jack del
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(01:04:29):
This is game time on the Dug Gottli Show. I
still can't believe the magic thing right, so weird, like
he was giving complete power then he gave it away
from a historical loss to National champions. What's this journey
been like? I'll ask Tony Bennett, the head coach of
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Eric Musselman, head coach of the Hogs of Arkansas, former
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Uh you'll hear what Chris Brussard had to say on
Anthony Davis is interesting. Excuse for the T shirt that

(01:05:36):
he wore yesterday. Rick Riley still to come in studio
his new book, and we'll talk Tiger at the Masters.
But we've had forty eight hours or so, and I
want to catch up with the head coach of the
the new national champions, the Virginia Cavaliers. He's Tony Bennett.
He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Coach. I
don't know. I don't know how much you slept. Um.

(01:05:58):
I know you started returning a text yesterday because you
and I texted each other back and forth. I can't
imagine when your cell phone is like. But I want
to ask you first, what's it like to wake up,
open your eyes for the second time knowing you're a
national champion. No, I got a little better sleep last night.
It's your same feeling fortunate, humble, thankful, the whole deal.

(01:06:20):
And you know, I, as our guys were talking about it,
I don't know if it's fully, you know, sunken. Yet
little pieces come and I think your appreciation all that
will continue. But it was such a hard fought you
know that the way we did it is improbable, and um,
it makes it even that much sweeter. Yeah, I said yesterday,
like I've never understood. Um, and maybe more fans and

(01:06:44):
sometimes it's coaches and players the defensiveness that that comes
with when you say, hey, they were a little lucky
or even a lot lucky. But I mean, look, there's
a lot of and luckies when timing and preparation kind
of come together. That's how it's always been described to me.
But there's a lot of ways to describe three consecutive
games in which you have improbable, very very late comebacks

(01:07:07):
two wins. Um is it? Are? Are you defensive at all?
If somebody says, hey, they were at least a little
bit lucky, not at all we were. You call whatever
blessed fortunate lucky? Um who knows? You know? Even this
is the first year in the NC tournament we've been
fully healthy, and so much of the N terminals down

(01:07:28):
to who you're playing. Obviously, who thought we played some
hot teams? Who you're playing? Are you healthy? And then
those bounces, those plays, um So that happened. The organ
game was was so tough to um. So that's that's
real stuff. But no, I'm not defensive one bit about that.
And I think it's right. Let me let me go

(01:07:48):
to the semifinals because I thought you guys had that
game in hand and then all of a sudden tie Jerome,
who has only had four fouls four fouls once this season,
and that was and that was the game against Perdue.
So he's the guy who never fouls out. Your team
commits only fourteen fouls as a team per game. It's
something you guys harp on, preach on, and it's you know,

(01:08:12):
one of the basis of your guy's success. You took
him out of the game and all of a sudden,
Auburn makes a run. You guys kind of lost your
offensive rhythm um in the in the moment. Take me
through your thought process when he commits what was a
silly foul because he thought he was fouled on a
post up. You're right, that's something you would do and
I would probably do you like, hey, come on, I

(01:08:33):
got hit and he lost to said. He discribed himself
as a phone head and play. So I said, what
are you doing? Because you know he it happened in
Organ story. Organ Auburn made an incredible comic because we
were playing high level basketball and in all these games
you talk about what we've gotta have loved where you
still got to be in that spot to win it
sort of, it has to be high level plays for
the course of the game. But we had a terrific

(01:08:53):
second half and then there was so quick start of
making plays yet and I think exactly what Ty did
that and he just us his head for a second foul,
and you know, I was faced with the decision. I
think it was at about the five forty or somewhere
right around five minute mark, and I thought, okay, do
we just set him? And my thought was just set
him for a minute, get him under the media time

(01:09:14):
out or at some point to see but we're I
think it was maybe a seven point game at that time.
So again it shows you his value, you know, his
his role on this team. We have so many terrific
players in Hunter and Guy and all that, but he's
kind of like the Tom Brady you know for us,
which just he just makes everything go. And when he
came out, we did lose our. They started making some plays,

(01:09:36):
tough contest to threes, missed the blockout and then um
he had to get back in fairly quickly. But that was,
you know, obviously a key for for their comeback, and
you know, us kind of faltering. What's that feeling like, Look,
you're a great player, and you can you can undersell
it all you want to other people. You can under
sell it to me. Tony Benn and our guest on
The Doug Gotlip Show. You're a great player. What what's

(01:09:57):
that feeling like to have a kid like Kyle guy
who I remember calling your games when he was a freshman.
He had that terrible man button, right and you you
told me like he just he's got he's got a
confidence about him that you don't want to take away
like you want to you want him to take good
shots and buy into what But there's a confidence to
him that that is unmistakable. What's that like to stand

(01:10:18):
there and watch him stare down those three free throws
and knock him down in your heart of hearts? What's
going on in your mind? Well, it's interesting because you know,
even statistically free throw wives Kyle, I don't think he's
he doesn't knock it out of the park. I actually
don't know it off hand. Um, And I remember when
that happened, just I didn't know if he was going

(01:10:38):
to make him or miss one. And I just thought, well,
I literally like here we go. You know, I didn't
even think like, oh, he's got these for sure, someone said,
and I would stand the next right. I didn't hear it,
but where they interviewed him right after, and he said
I was terrified. I think he stepped in the line.
I don't know if that was for for Hollywood or
if he really was, but those were strong shots because
they went in pretty pretty pure. Bang bang bang did

(01:11:00):
the time outs. But I was just stiful. All right,
we got a chance to tie it or send or
win it. I'm like the way our Purdue game ended,
I was kind of like, well this would be fitting,
wouldn't it now, So it was like, here we go.
I was hopeful, but in my mind thinking, okay, do
we get someone at the freest I just you say
in the moment, like, okay, if he makes, what are
we doing? If he misses, what are we doing? Where
we putting our pieces? And that's trually what was going

(01:11:21):
on in my mind. You know, it's interesting you bring
up the Purdue game, and I hate to go out
of kind of chronological order, but even though the Purdue
game there was all those things key making the right
read and throwing it to Mama Dy. But but part
of the way you guys got the ball back is
one of the things that's unique about how you guys play.
Even though you don't necessarily send a bunch of guys

(01:11:42):
to the offensive boards between Mama Dy and Salt and
and maybe DeAndre, but really Mamady does an incredible job
of tipping the ball out and giving you guys additional possessions.
That's something that's taught, right, I mean, like, look, he
has to have the length and skill to do it,
but that's something you work on, isn't it. Well, Jack,

(01:12:04):
Salt and him were key you know, of course we
talked about those big three, but I think the X
factors this whole tournament run where Key, Hay, Clark, Momady,
and and um of course Jack in that game particularly,
but that all started. You know, guy's donna Isaiah Wilkins
was one of the best we've had at that And
you know, when you play with a player who was
effective at doing something, your other guys just sort of say, yeah,

(01:12:25):
that's the way to keep stuff alive. And there's such athleticism,
you know, in size and the game, so sometimes you
can't grab it the best thing you can do. And
I didn't mention Braxton Key what he did in the
championship game with that rebounding and defense, but is just
I can't grab it, so I'm keeping it alive, and
you know that's that's definitely something I think Isaiah just
feeled it an even more how it was effective. You know,

(01:12:46):
it's you bring up Key and he did have a
huge championship game. But I also think it speaks to
you and your ability to read the game on the
fly because Key struggled, you know a little bit with
with their size, with their lengthen really they're just older guys, right,
He's a kid, They're they're grown men. And I thought
you made uh and they kind of change their lineup.

(01:13:08):
They went to a little bit of a small ball lineup,
and it it caused you to change Was that was
that part of your plan um to play Key that
much in the championship game or is that something you
felt as the game went on? I felt that as
the game went on, And Doug, I'm gonna give you
some credit. You and I had a conversation. You know,
we go back so many years. You know, our fathers

(01:13:29):
were both you know, legendary coaches who have poured so
much into us. And after last year's UNBC game, you know,
you and I talked. I can't remember if we did
an interview or not, but you talked and you challenged
me and encouraged me that you know, obviously, like everyone
would grow from this game, but you know, can you
can you find ways when the tournament comes to play

(01:13:50):
differently even through the year, try different things, whether it's
offensively or defensively or lineup wise. And I remember that conversation,
and I I knew we had to do that because
you know, obviously we were good last year and DeAndre
Hunter allowed us to play small, and then when DeAndre
got hurt in the n see A tournament before that,
we couldn't we didn't have that four guard lineup. Well

(01:14:13):
this year when Braxton and Key got eligible, I knew it.
At times we're gonna be able to play Key as
a five and Drey as a four or vice versa,
and a real small lineup. And then against Purdue we
needed to go big with salt and and mom Andy,
so you kind of challenge me. We added some things,
and I really tried to think hard about that, and
I thought in tournament runs, you need to be able

(01:14:34):
to have the verse fatility to mix things up offensively
or defense. We used the offense against um Texas Tech
in the championship game that we hadn't hardly used all
year because they ran a different kind of defense with
the way they forced it on the side and switched,
and so you have to have those things ready in
those situations. Yeah, that was I'll tell you exactly what
it was. Coaching job, Doug, Like I thought, you got

(01:14:57):
your head coaching job. So I want to g Oh,
that's that's fine. You get you collect to present, here's
the here's the progress. How process about went down? Uh?
You guys lost obviously, I'm sure everybody reached out to
to text you. I text you. We texted back and forth.
I think we did do an interview and then you
and I talked for about an hour. And what I

(01:15:19):
what I said and was like, you know, don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid to even to lose a game or
to lose momentum, you know, uh, you know, in a
in a regular season game, because you just you never know,
like try, you know, try stuff, Like you look, your
teams are good enough that you're going to get to
the n c A tournament, and so why not whether
it's a guarantee game or a c C game, try

(01:15:41):
different line ups and try different things, because you know,
I mean, look, Texas Tech, they went to a small
ball line up there. That's not their traditional lineup because
you know, Owens was hurt and in foul trouble and
they couldn't score against your bigs and the only way
to do it was to drag your bigs out on
the floor, right, So so those things that you have
to kind of prepare for, um, okay. So so so

(01:16:02):
then you did something that you hadn't done the entire
game when you're down three, or I don't remember you
doing it where I thought, I thought, as as well
coaches they are, I thought leaving Odias in after he
made the second free throw gave you the mismatch you needed.
You had a small lineup, and you said, kind of
a side ball screen with his man. Had you done

(01:16:24):
that before in the game? At what point, um, something
broke up there? You said, when we went what I
miss last part? Okay? Um, you're down three with fifteen
seconds to go, they make the second free throw, and
instead of taking the big guy out Odos, they leave
him in and you set a screen with his man

(01:16:45):
kind of to the side of the court. That's what
free tide drome up to get the drive and kick
had you had you set that ball screen before in
the game. No, in similarly all the game and you
don't have a coach where we learned this. You have
to say, gave some things at times different little a
quick little action that they can play out of and

(01:17:05):
um and open up different things and that they maybe
haven't seen and um. You know Brendan Sir, who he
always talked about that you you did in a tournament.
You can't. You just have to have something that might
look a little different under four or whatever, because you
just need a possession of everything. And we did it
against Auburn a couple of times and actually a few
things happiness we know that was the first time we
had you do something early in the game sometimes just

(01:17:27):
to get a look and see how do they handle
this that makes look similar. So I just did a
couple of things to just get a gauge for what
they do and um. And then so when we got
to that spot, it was it was kind of the
the second time we did it, but we did it
a little different. I know, you gotta run. I got
two more for you really quick. Uh. DeAndre Hunter, who
had had struggled with his his jump shot at times,

(01:17:49):
and he struggled kind of out of the gate. Did
you say something to him, because he was simply remarkable
in that game. How did he kind of personally turn
it around? I thought you saw him grow up before
very eyes. He first thought he was from you know,
he was just scratching the surface. Do not be defined
by a mistake in your game or missing shots. I said,

(01:18:12):
that's something every really great player has to overcome. If
you're missing. In young players, if they missed a couple
of shots or have a mistake, they sort of shy away.
And I thought he guarded hard again. We talked about
that leading up to the Final four. You know, look,
if I look at you on the leg, I think
you're getting a little discouraged. You snap out it. I
think because this team feeds off you on the glass

(01:18:36):
and the way he spread out and slid on culver
all games. I said, you have to give us that
irregardless of your offensive output. But I knew we needed him,
and I thought he he struggled a little early, maybe
settled in the Auburn game and then all of a
sudden the second half of both of those, but the
Champions game he got a sort of started making plays
and just it was you know, it was unmistakable. So

(01:18:59):
that's the credit him and part of the maturity process
of maybe going through that in the tournament earlier or
other games and not responding quite the same as he
did in the Final four. Last thing, your family and
your faith or everything to you. Um what would your
dad say? Ah? He was you and I can we

(01:19:19):
can appreciate this Doug more than most because we know
how much they've poured into our lives, um in in
both areas that are so important to us. But he
just was happy. You know, he didn't come to the
final four game, my father, but he wanted to be
there for that championship game. He gets so nervous, but
it was just a shared moment, you know. It's just
I could just seen his eyes and his hand front

(01:19:41):
was all over me. He prepared me to coach in
that moment in that game, because I know our system
and style gets a lot of criticism, which really doesn't matter,
but when you play elite competition, you better have a
way that sound and can hold up in the pressures
of the game against Elite company elite players. And that
was on display for me in my mind right, we
know we have to do these things that have been

(01:20:01):
ingrained in me as a coach and a player ever
since he started working with me. And that's the stuff
I tried to just execute. Have our team ex get
at the highest level. And then, yeah, you need to
to start to the way you start. You need the
luck and you need the players to make plays. And
our players made plays. So that's why it was good
and special moment with my family and with him. Well,

(01:20:22):
well we'll deserve respect. Hey, thanks so much for the compliment,
and thanks so much for your time. Look forward to
Senior in the upcoming offseason, but enjoy the victory lap.
It's well deserved, and of course it represents a style
of basketball which your dad believed in, so many believed in,
and finally has come to fruition. Congratulations, Thank you, Doug
Pleasures mind Tony Bennett, head coach of the wah who's

(01:20:43):
the Virginia Cavaliers national champions for two thousand nineteen. A
guy who last year took Nevada to the Sweet sixteen
is now the head coach at Arkansas. Their new head coach,
Eric Musselman, enjoys the show coming next. What's the biggest
challenge in coaching in the SEC, a place she's been
before as an assistant coach at l s U Last Musk.
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ten most of the season. Last year, they went to
this sweet sixteen, he led Nevada to back to back
in see A tournament appearances and his reward to go
back to the sec A place. He was an assistant
at l s U. Now he's the head coach of Arkansas.
He is the head Hog. He is Eric Musselman. He

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joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. How did you
think your first call the Hogs win? Well, I hope
it went good. I'm sure that there's a lot of
evals on that call, Doug, so so hopefully it's all positive.
Did you watch like filmed? I mean, like you're you're
a big prep guy. I just didn't know. Did you
watch film Did you have somebody come in and give
you a specialized look at it like or did you

(01:22:34):
just Hey, I think I know what I'm doing here.
I'll wing it. No, no winging at all. A lot
of prep work, probably more prep work for that than
r n s A A tournament game against Florida. And
the great thing about it is you get the prep
with your family, your kids, your wife, So it was
all encompassing family time to learn that call. By the way,
if you want to know more about the life and

(01:22:55):
times of Eric Musselman. You should download my All Ball podcast.
He went through all of the stops, talked about his incredible,
incredible life UM, watching his basketball legend, father coach, and
I just I wonder, what about Arkansas. There are other
jobs you could have gone to, other places that you've
talked to and thought about. What is it about Arkansas

(01:23:17):
that made it the place to take your entire family
and continue your career? Yeah? I think that, you know,
one of the one of the things that that the
more we talked was just the relationship that you know,
that I could have with our athletic director Hunter. I
mean he Uh. The more of the conversations, the more
excited we became as a family. Uh. And then obviously, uh,

(01:23:38):
you know, all of us in college basketball understand the
history albar Arkansas basketball, from Eddie Sutton, coach Richardson all
the way through. UH. And then it's a building that
can really rock. I mean, they have great enthusiasm, the
fans supports, incredible, the facilities, Doug. I had never been
here before UM and actually Monday, the day of the

(01:24:00):
press conference, was the first day that I stepped foot
in the in the facilities, and it's mind boggling. It's
absolutely uh one of, if not the most gorgeous building
I've ever been in. Um and so I feel really
really lucky to be in this position. What is that
like though, to take a job and like, you know,
like as a player, you want to go have a

(01:24:21):
visit as a coach because they don't want to get out.
There's rumors and there's you know, all this other talk.
You know, sometimes you've got to take a job before
you ever even walk around the campus. What's it like
to take a job and you've done so based upon
pictures and what people say, not with you what your
own eyes tell you. Well, I wish, I wish there
was five five official coaching visits that you were allowed

(01:24:42):
so you could do it. But um, the pictures surprised.
It's the first place that I've ever been where pictures
and video. It was actually better seeing it live than
what I knew. And usually you go somewhere whether it's
a family vacation or whatever, and the is a little
bit of letdown from the pictures. But actually, uh, Fayetteville

(01:25:04):
as a city and then also our facilities are they
went well beyond what we as a as a family expected.
You won three consecutive Mountain West regular season championships. Eric
Musselman joining us now the head coach at Arkansas, and uh,
there's you know, some people like, well if he did
it with with transfers, But it's not that you haven't

(01:25:27):
been able, you know, during your stops as a college
assistant to recruit kind of traditional players as well. What's
the plan in terms of how you re build this
program personnel wise, in terms of the ratio of transfers
too high school kids? You know, I think obviously, you know,
at a place like Arkansas with with players that are
in the state, players that are in surrounding states, um.

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And then when you're at a Power five, you're going
to recruit different because you're gonna have the ability of
name recognition, um with with the school and the and
the brand. UM. So I think we have to recruit
a little bit differ friendly than we have in the past.
Although you know, I do think Doug that you know,
for for Nevada to land a five star McDonald's All American, UM,

(01:26:08):
it just doesn't happen at a place like Nevada. And
so it's not like we didn't recruit young players obviously,
Lindsay Drew and Cameron Oliver two other guys. And you know,
so that's three really really good players along with we
had a commitment and a national letter of intent signed
by a PAC twelfth center, UM a few years ago,
who's a starter. And and and so we've we did

(01:26:30):
uh find and and identify some really good high school
players that we had in our program as well, but
the bulk of it was transfers. And UM, I still
think that as as college basketball evolves, the transfer is
not going away. It's not shrinking. UM, it continues. Even
the numbers now, UM, this will be the biggest, the

(01:26:51):
biggest transfer year that we've ever had. In each year,
it seems we're saying that same line. Yeah, UM, what
about you person, what you learn from this year? I
mean you and I have talked, and record wise, you
had unbelievable season. But for whatever reason, to those of
us who were inside your program, it was like it
was almost like some of your guys had senior itis
right where they were just where they around each other
too long. It wasn't the same like the year before.

(01:27:12):
And I granted we were a result oriented, but whether
you're down ten, down twenty didn't matter. That group, you
felt like they're going to find a way to win
a game. Where is this year didn't I don't know,
it didn't feel the same. What did you learn from
coaching a group of guys who, many of whom decided
to come back and you even you turn down jobs
to come back. What do you learn from that heading
forward in your college basketball career? Well, I think that

(01:27:34):
you know, the biggest thing is is trying to keep
your team healthy. UM is number one, because you know,
we got all the way to fifth, you know, ranks
fifth in the nation UM and everything was going really
really well. Uh, and then we stumbled at New Mexico,
which is going to be expected. There was only four
other teams that were undefeated at that time. And but

(01:27:55):
really what happened at the end of the year is
playing and simple is one of our top three players,
Jordan Caroline though he's your best player by the way. Yeah,
and a lot of people, you know, felt that Jordan
was as important as anybody because of his energy, his effort,
is enthusiasm and he actually about three and a half
weeks left in the season, started experiencing uh achilles tenanitis

(01:28:16):
and it affected what he could do in practice, and
then its certainly affected him. Um, you know, come tournament time,
meaning our Mountain West Conference tournament, and he was unable
to play the second night of a back to back game.
And obviously in college you just don't have a lot
of back to back games. And so I do feel
like that, you know, we beat San Diego State at
home the last regular season game to win the Copper

(01:28:39):
Tie with Utah State the conference regular season championships or
everything was going good then, and I really think that,
you know, what stands out is losing m a game,
the game two in the Mountain West Conference tournament, and
Caroline sat out that game, and then he just was
not the same against you know, Florida, and even that

(01:29:00):
game it felt like the year before. We got down
by eighteen and cut it to one and just didn't
have enough to get over the hump. But they didn't quit.
And you know, in that first round there was a
lot of blowouts by teams and and we cut that
thing and made it entertaining, but just didn't make a
shot or two down the street before. You guys, couldn't

(01:29:20):
make a free throw, is weird? Couldn't make a free
throw and and um. But you know, we did have
good chemistry. The guys liked each other, and Caroline's tendonitis
really affected us. Um. Jordan Caroline, you know obviously his dad,
Simeon Rice, his grandpa was an NFL player, bringing up
only because he's a he's like a six four or
six five power forward centered in in college basketball. If

(01:29:42):
you go back ten years ago, they would say, well,
that guy can't necessarily play in the SEC. But now,
I mean Corlis Williamson wasn't much bigger. Does it change
what you're looking for? His success is kind of that
undersize four five, which again the NBA Draymond Green and
even Zion Williamson six five and a half six six
is going to be a small ball center. UM. I

(01:30:03):
think the thought previously would be, you know, you get
to the SEC, and you've got to recruit guys six
ain't above for power forward and six ten above for center.
Can Can you take some of the the the interesting
combinations versatile versatility that you had in Nevada and transformed
at Arkansas? I think so. Document you know, where our
team played against Florida or the year before playing against

(01:30:25):
somebody like you know Texas or or Cincinnati in the tournament,
like our bodies matched up, you know. And and and
then when we didn't at that four or five spot
and we were undersized, you know, we had the ability
to to to to to get mismatches and isolation things
that we wanted to get done. And and certainly, I
still think whether it's you know, for college football or

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or or college basketball, it's all about how as an
offensive unit you can try to figure out how to
create a mismatch where you have an advantage. And for
some people it's been size inside. For us, it's been
trying to find a mismatch. We're a taller player is
matched up with one of our quicker guys on the perimeter. Uh.
And certainly that is what you know fits into who

(01:31:07):
we are and what our system has been in the past.
Very happy because I know you left because I know
Doug Nuth a little bit and he loved working with you.
I know that you had you guys had a home there.
I mean you left, you built a program and to
leave it, it it had to be something that would that
would not only challenge you going to work, but something
that you think your family could be happy. Um. So

(01:31:28):
it feels like a good fit. It does, but I
will I will say Doug that you know when when
when I had to make the phone call to our
athletic director Doug nuth And and Rory Hiccock to the
basketball athletic director, I cried like a baby. Um, two
of our our biggest boosters. Um, when I had to
call them, it was not easy because we we really

(01:31:49):
you know, Doug knut Is is a guy that gave
me my first opportunity when a lot of people said,
oh no, too much NBA experience, not enough college experience,
and he trust didn't believed in me. Um. So I'll
forever be grateful for Doug and and uh, you know,
the fans support selling out the building, you know, on
a nightly basis, and the enthusiasm and lawlor was was

(01:32:12):
really really special. Um. But this was just an opportunity
that my family and I felt like it was a
top twenty job in the country and those just don't
come along very often, and and we couldn't be more
excited to be a part of Arkansas. Well, I texted,
you know, I tell you, I think it it might
be the best of all the jobs that available with
with with the Razorback Air Force and all the support
from the Walmart folks and the Tyson Chicken folks, like

(01:32:34):
they want to be good there and everywhere you've been,
you've been good. So best of luck, Tia, enjoy digging
in and find a new home with Danielle and the family.
Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks so much for
having me. I do appreciate it. Always awesome to join you,
all right. Eric Musselman, the head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks. Look,
I I think he was fine in his call of
the Hugs. It wasn't you guys. Remember I don't even

(01:32:55):
remember Dan Altman, his coach at Oregon, was the head
coach at Arkansas for like a week because you Craton,
he left in Arkansas. They had all kinds of issues
off the court when he took over the job, and
he's like, just didn't fit, you know, didn't He's a
Nebraska guys. He's like, I don't really fit, and so
he went actually went back to Creighton. But he was
like the most uncomfortable call of the Hogs. I thought

(01:33:18):
Musclimans was way better than that. Way better. Let's get
to Dan Buyer. Dan, do you know how to call
the hogs. Well, we tried this yesterday, yeah, and uh
it was it was pig suey oh right, Yeah, you
gotta kind of do a little higher pitch though, like
my voice to the you gotta do it three times

(01:33:41):
when they go peg sue it razorbacks here. They all
come there, they go write down some pulvi though, like
you know, you can go hunt pigs like it's completely
it's not just legal, um, it's encouraged because there's like
an overpopulation because they they're like they're like rats and
and hats only either not like cat. They're not spade

(01:34:02):
like cats. You don't hunt cats, no, but I mean
you don't. But animal uh, animal control does and they
spare them. But you can't spay these these wild wild
hogs peogle hog hunting. They come at you like they're mean.
The Yeah, that's I have heard that. I have heard
that there was. Yeah, anyway, I don't know much about

(01:34:26):
the wild hogs. But how much of your research for
your next tip? All right, we'll do, we'll do. Staying
in the college basketball world, Duke freshman forward R. J.
Barrett says, well, that's enough. A college basketball entering the
NBA draft, leaving school after his freshman year. News from
the NBA still the after shocks of Magic Johnson stepping
down as the president of basketball operations for the Lakers.

(01:34:49):
Lebron James was reportedly stunned by the decision, according to ESPN,
as GM Rob Polinka will not likely stay on with
the team. According to the report, final night of the
NBA's regular season, a lot of seating up for grabs
in the West and the East. Pistons can clinch your
spot with a win over the next or are lost
by the Hornets to the Magic Stanley Cup. Playoffs get
underway tonight with five series. In baseball, the Tigers beat

(01:35:11):
the Indians four to one, raise on top of the
White Sox three nothing that's in the third inning. Giants
at Padres tied up at one apiece in San Francisco,
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who's any good at hockey? This year? Tampa Bay is
really good? Yeah? I remember that from earlier this year

(01:35:57):
or idealer research. They Bay Columbus. I take a Columbus
is not good. I think, yeah, well they're good enough
to make the playoffs, but it would be a it
would be a I guess a one eight matchup, if
you will, even though seating like that in the NHL
isn't necessarily one to eight, but that's what you would get. Yeah,
the seating is super weird. Like I don't understand Nashville
and Dallas are are are Nashville is a one seed

(01:36:20):
and Dallas is the number one wild card seed? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
You basically they care more about divisions in the in
the NHL? Am I wrong to think that that the
Islanders in Pittsburgh? That sound seems like the signature series
or or is it Boston in Toronto? You got some
of the original that are the original six Boston Toronto.

(01:36:40):
I don't know. Yes, yes I believe. So see what
I did there? I did that is that that is
the most hockey will ever speak like. I just uh.
Then San Jose in Vegas intrigues me a little bit.
I don't know why, just maybe because of proximity. It's
like a good Southwest flight, right that San Jose, because
San Jose. The only reason anyone ever flew into San
Jose in my lifetime was because you could save money
flying on south West. I so now you get like

(01:37:01):
that the Southwest that should be sponsored by Southwest, and
then and then Dallas in Nashville, which means Clay Travis
will be tweeting out about how Nashville is a hockey town,
how amazing hockey is like until Nashville loses, which will
cause most of America too route for Nashville lose, so
he stops pretending like he's a hockey fan, pretending like
we care about hockey. Well, the second and third teams

(01:37:21):
in each division end up playing in the first round
of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Whereas in the NBA, I
kid you not. I was looking at the standings that
there was a Y next to Orlando, and I'm like,
what the heck does a Y stand for? And it
stood because they won the division of the Southeast Division.
And I've I've said this. I can't remember the last

(01:37:41):
time that i've I've looked at the division standings of
the NBA, usually just conference but the division standings in
the NBA basically are useless. Not in the NHL. Yes, correct,
Well I didn't know that about the NHL. So you
you learned something new every day. Christ pous Sarry thinks
Anthony Davis needs to take more heat for his role
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like to play for you a portion of a previous
show on Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports when we
call it and now here was Christmas Sorry earlier today
talking about Anthony Davis's role in his failed trade to
the Lakers. If it had been up to his advisors,
they would have had him request the trade at the

(01:39:09):
beginning of the season publicly. At the beginning of the season,
A D said, no, we're coming off a second round
playoff birth, let's see what type of season we can have.
And when it was going south in either like twenty
two and twenty seven or something, when he requested the trade,
A D saw, look, it's a bad season. We're not
probably not gonna even make the playoffs. We can't win here,

(01:39:30):
all right, let's go ahead and request the trade. So
my thing is, this is Anthony Davis directing his agent
on what he wants to do, just like we do
with our agents. And furthermore, I'll throw this out. When
Dwight Howard ruined a season and really a franchise in
Orlando by demanding the trade with his agent, Dan Fagan blamed. No,

(01:39:56):
d White was blamed. When Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthon
need demanded trades, ruined seasons. Mellow ruined that whole difference
season that was a good team to go New York.
Was their agent Leon Rose blame? It was Mellow and
Chris Paul. So why now is it all on the agent?
Because the agents the one league in the stories and

(01:40:17):
because the agents the one who's representing Lebron James, and
Lebron James suddenly didn't have anybody who wanted to come
play with him, and in a freak out, oh my gosh,
if we don't don't get Anthony Davis, who are we
gonna go get? We gotta make sure this happens, and
so we'll make the trade demands public. That's why, because

(01:40:42):
those other agents, that wasn't the conflicting alliances of representing
another player who they wanted to be trade to play with.
Like I get it, I mean Chris Coast the Odd Couple,
which starts an hour after our show. I think it's
a really good show. He and Rob Parker and Chris
has been in the NBA game a long time. But

(01:41:02):
that strikes me as Rich Paul telling Chris Broussard, Hey,
how can people are blaming me? It's not my fault,
like because you're hurting, not helping the process because you
want to be out in front of the camera. Rich
Paul is doing the exact same thing that Lebron James does,
you know, gathering up all the loose debris when it's

(01:41:25):
really dry, happening to have a match, sitting there and
some other tinder. I'm gonna going like, well, you know
that fire start. I didn't start the fire, Like yeah,
but you set everything up for it to be started.
You ruin not one but two for sports franchises. Oh yeah,
by the way, we think that Magic Johnson is talking
about Rob Polinka in some of the backstabbing, but we

(01:41:48):
don't know he's not talking about Rich Paul or Lebron.
So you can tell me all you want, like, hey,
how come they don't and the agents because Anthony Davis
wasn't doing any of the talking. He wasn't. He wasn't
what Kobe Bryant did where he got on the got

(01:42:09):
it on the radio and said I want to be traded.
He didn't. And you were doing the talking, you were
leaking the stories. You were part of the problem, trying
to find her own solution. So man, look, Anthony Davis
is doing the same thing with the T shirt he
wore yesterday. Wearing a T shirt, says that's all folks.
Then when he's asked about it today, he was like,

(01:42:31):
I mean, take a listen, this is Anthony Davis earlier today.
Just to make sure. He said, you don't shoot it.
You wear every night, and my lads out your clothes
every night. We're gonna wearing a game. I have no
control that I just put it on. I just put on.
I have no control over the clothes that I wear.

(01:42:53):
If true, that's big. If true, that's big. Like you
wake up the way like somebody picks out your clothes
for you. You You know, I really want to wear some
A G jeans, but there's some uh jab jabo jeans

(01:43:14):
or whatever that are hung up for me. Is I
guess I'm gonna wear those even though they're super uncomfortable. Like, man,
I kind of feel like wearing shorts. Now you can't
wear shorts? Why jeans ranging up? This also strikes me
at the whole uh Kyle Korver piece. You know, Kyle

(01:43:34):
Cover wrote this piece about how you know, like basically
like a white privileged piece, and like, look, do I
get it? Then? In some places that exist in the NBA,
stop it right, These are not real first world problems.
I wore a T shirt that somebody else picked out
for me to wear, and it pissed a bunch of
people off. If you don't have the cell, First of all,

(01:43:57):
you don't pick out your own clothes. I really have
a time having a conversation with you, right like you
you want to control your own career, but you won't
even control what T shirt you wear? Does anybody else
see the hypocrisy and that those two statements. Man, I'm

(01:44:18):
demanding a trade because I want out. What about the
T shirt? I didn't pick it out, But I'm tired
of NBA teams tell me what I can and cannot do.
But I prefer I pay somebody else to pick out
the clothes that I'm gonna wear. How hard is it.
You go in, you get a T shirt, you go
it's all right, stiff test right close enough to being clean. Yeah,

(01:44:42):
I wore it, but I didn't wear it. And that's
what the fox said. If it had been up. Say,
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(01:45:02):
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a pair of jeans before you washing music? Oh? Man?
Like five? Yeah, they gotta get they gotta loosen up
a little bit, right, Yeah, Like where's two through four
are amazing? Or where five? Like you're like, you're like, yeah,

(01:45:27):
but I'm gonna do it anyway. Raise your hand if
you've ever gotten something that's worn a little bit wrinkled
and you just throw it in the dryer for ten
minutes so you don't have to hron it. Right. These
idiots have somebody else pick out their T shirt. It's
like having somebody else sleep with your wife. What's the
fun of being human being can't pick out your own
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experience in this. It's a family run business, right and
I can tell you it's fan run business is really
hard when the when the matriarch or the patriarch passes away,

(01:46:35):
it just is. I have friends that run a family
run business. Two brothers, great friends of mine, especially one brother,
and they're constantly, constantly at each other's throats because one
brother is more of a day to day grinder. I'm
in there crack of dawn. I'm I'm leaving with the

(01:46:55):
last guy. The other guy. The other brothers more a man.
We pay people to do all this other stuff. Call
me when something breaks and I will fix it. There's
a Yang and a Yang, Yin and a Yang, and
they do seem to kind of bend up uh work
with each other, but it doesn't make it that enjoyable experience. Um,

(01:47:16):
my family has a business. We call the business a
business of basketball. But my dad had a recruiting service
and a U teams and a basketball academy and he
passed away. My brother said had an assistant coach in college.
And at the time I was living in Connecticut, and
I have a job. I have a couple of jobs
of my own. It ain't easy. It's just not easy.

(01:47:41):
And the problem when you hire somebody who's not in
the family is they don't necessarily have the same virtues.
They don't. They want to help themselves, they want to
make money doing it, but you know what they don't
want to do. They don't care about necessarily the name

(01:48:01):
as much as you do, because it doesn't represent what
it does to you. On the other hand, when you
do pick somebody from the family, there could be other issues. Look,
the Lakers are a mom and pop that's what they are.
And Dr Jerry Bust gets a ton of credit for
being one of the all time grade owners when the

(01:48:23):
truth is, like the magic to him was he inherited.
He bought a great franchise that had tremendous leadership, He
funded it, He hung out with the best player in
the world at the time, which is Magic Johnson, and
eventually his daughter gave control to Magic Johnson well after
his passing. The magic just ain't he just ain't it.

(01:48:47):
He's just not. And and you know that they were
always able to get away with not having a deep
scouting roster. You know, they always had one of the
slimmest front offices in the business. And you go back
to when Mitch cup Check was there, they didn't have
a ton of people. They had Jerry Wester was there.

(01:49:09):
They didn't have a ton of people, but they had
the Lakers. They had great head coaches and great players.
They made good draft picks, and because they were they
were seen as a destination. They were able to get
away with some of the things that other people couldn't
get away with. The Lakers actually remind me of guys

(01:49:30):
like Vince Young, dies like even Deshaun Watson, super talented
quarterbacks who at a high school or collegiate level, I mean, uh,
Cam Newton able to get away with things that other
guys could not. Baker Mayfield is not Cam Newton. Cam

(01:49:51):
Newton six ft six cannon for an arm unbelievable athlete,
can run by you and can run through you. And
so he could get away with a misread, He could
get away with throwing into coverage because he just has
He's just bigger, stronger, and better than anybody else his size.
Leading up to the pros, who would you rather have
right now? Cam Newton or Baker Mayfield? Rather Baker because

(01:50:18):
Baker was a walk on, Because Baker had to know
more about the offenses. He had to know more about
the defense he was going to get. He had to
be more accurate, he had to be more precise because
he doesn't have the talent that Cam Newton has. That's
no different than Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson has always been

(01:50:39):
able to get with, get away with not having a
lot of substance, just having a lot of charm. Why
was he a bad analyst? He was bad. He wasn't
good when he was with NBC. Go back and listen
to him when he used to call the NBA Finals
and he wasn't good at ESPN. Why because when do
you work. When do the work, and it's not hard work,

(01:51:03):
it's it's not arduous. Hey, pick up the phone and
call people in every front office in the NBA, because
you know what happens when you're Magic Johnson. They call
you back. If you send a text to somebody and
you signed it Magic Johnson, they are going to respond
Magic Johnson response. It sends you a text, you show

(01:51:24):
all your friends, right, dude, look who texted me Magic Johnson.
The only reason they wouldn't is that they think they're
getting cat fished. Sure right, Sure, it's Magic Johnson. So
the the idea that he doesn't have great relationships in
the NBA, didn't seem to know what was going on
when he was an analyst. It was just a sign

(01:51:44):
of you wonder the work. They want to do the work.
And those are things. When you're a six ft nine
point guard blessed with an unbelievable gift of vision and
leader ship, you can get away with it. But but

(01:52:05):
the prerequisite for running an NBA team is not vision
on a basketball floor. It's not necessarily even leadership. It's
definitely not hyped at position. It's just not it's work
ethic understanding of game communication skills, the ability to put

(01:52:28):
things together to build, the ability to process who fits where.
There's some math to it in terms of the salary cap.
And here's the big here's the biggest thing. You know.
Tony Bennet gave me a great compliment last hour, and
the guys have kind of taken it and run with it.
Where you know, Look, I'm I'm kind of ballsy that

(01:52:48):
way where I have friends in coaching and if I
see something, I'll text them, I'll engage with them and
I'll say like, hey, you have you ever thought about
doing this? And my wife hates him always like how
how would you do you? Dare you do that? I
was like, well, look the way I look at things,
if I were a coach, I would want people giving
people I respect, giving me suggestions because I know enough

(01:53:11):
to know what I don't know. So Tony Bennett was
kind of joking last hour. He was like, hey, I
might getting getting your head coaching job because you kind
of suggested a couple of things that really helped us
this season. It's a great compliment. And I've talked to
me about being a head coach, and I'm smart enough
to know what I don't know, I would hire those
people magics non because if Magic Johnson was really, really,

(01:53:39):
really smart, he would hire a cap specialist. He would
hire a data analytics guy, which they just did kind
of mid year. He would have an assistant GM. He
would have a personal assistant who kept him abreast of
everything going on the day to day with within the Lakers,
so that when he was gone, he had somebody who
is his eyes and ears. Instead, when you're only around

(01:54:02):
every once in a while, guys started to chirp, and
he didn't like it. Take a listen to what Magic
Johnson said were some of his issues. What I didn't
like is the backstabbing and the whisper and I don't
like that, you know, I don't like um A lot
of things that went on that didn't have to go on.
And so I hope that after tomorrow the Lakers can

(01:54:24):
head in the right direction, which we are. Yeah, he
flipped back and forth and from being removing himself the
Lakers third person too, we are to first person and
Magic wants to always be a Laker. This is also
the problem with going home. Look, Magic Johnson that Kobe
Bryant looks like the smartest guy on Earth. Kobe wanted

(01:54:48):
out of the Lakers. Remember, he demanded a trade. They
didn't trade him. Kobe, of course, had the divorce with Shack,
and some of that was brought on by what happened
in Eagle County, Colorado. Kobe was the guy who he
along with Rob Polinkas mind that an awful deal with
the late Dr Jerry Buss for the last couple of
years of his contract to be paid forty eight million
over two years, which when he was coming off of

(01:55:10):
achilles tendon UH tear, which handcuffed them to put players
around him, and guys didn't want to come play with
Kobe like Kobe was difficult. But Kobe is smart enough
to never come back to the Lakers. He's not gonna
do basketball on TV. He's not gonna do basketball and radio.
He's not gonna coach, he's not gonna be a GM,

(01:55:32):
and he's not going to be a president because he
knows that the last time he put on a Lakers
uniform he at sixty points, and all of those bad
feelings about Kobe went away, and you're left with five
championships and sixty points and this Mamba mentality, and look
the Mama mentality was great, but it also was super selfish.

(01:55:53):
But because of what he did last is the most memorable.
We remember the sixty points. We remember Kobe shooting free
throws even though his Achilles tendon was torn. We remember
the good times. Magic Johnson is the greatest Laker ever ever.
Go back and look at the titles, the dominance in
the NBA. This is in the in the golden era

(01:56:16):
of Magic Bird, Dr j Patrick ewing Michael Jordan's and
that's where he won his titles. And so a guy
to go from being the greatest Laker ever to now
being a punchline. Remember he stabbed Jim Buss in the

(01:56:37):
back on National TV time and again because Jim Buss
didn't know what he was doing when he was running
the Lakers. Remember that. Then he came in and he
fired uh, you know long time loyal guys like Mitch
cup Check who are weren't doing a great job. But
then what he's done is though they have a good

(01:56:59):
capsie situation, it's been a train wreck of a season.
And the way in which he leaves the team when
he talks to Genie Bust and she okays whatever decisions
he wants to make, which was apparently to fire Rob
Polink of the GM and uh and Luke Walton, the
head coach, and instead he fires himself. Dude, this is bad.

(01:57:25):
Then he says this about Rob Polinka. I got to
know Rob. I didn't know Rob before Jammie put us together,
and so uh, um, it took us a while. You know,
we had to get to know each other. Um, and
so my relationship got a good relationship. Um, it's good

(01:57:46):
as you like you wish Rob. What No, No, the
relationship with Rob's fine. I just didn't know him and
he didn't know me because we got put together, and
so I think we had to get to know each
other and then learn how to work with each other.
So we did that. Um. But you know it has

(01:58:09):
nothing to do with me stepping down. Our relationship is fine.
Have you ever heard somebody describe the relationship is fine
actually being fine? Fine is one of those words where
it has multiple definitions, and some of it comes down
to tone. But when describing a relationship is fine, which

(01:58:30):
by dictionary definition means really really really good, the every
day day definition is not good. Hey feeling to honey, fine,
how's your relationship today? Fine. How does she look she
looks fine? Or does she look fine? That we didn't

(01:58:53):
really know each other. Now we know each other. How's
your relationship fine? It the family run business that decided,
you know, one of its long time best employees should
run the business because the patriarch had passed away, and
one brother tried to run it. Now the daughter tries

(01:59:15):
to run it, and they keep hiring people which may
on some level be loyal to the business, but they
don't really have the wherewithal or the intelligence to know
enough about what they don't know to hire people that
know what they don't know. Legendary sports writer Rick Riley
joins the show. Up coming next, I'll ask him about

(01:59:35):
his new book. I'll ask him about Magic Johnson. I'll
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Fox Sports Radio and for my lifetime every Wednesday. Every Wednesday,
you'd go to the mailbox and you would see you
would you would get your sports Illustrated UM. And my
mom's house in Orange, California, if you go into her garage.
She's a bit of a pack rat um but and

(02:01:49):
she may well be listening, and she'll she'll nod her
head a little bit when I tell when I say this,
there are several boxes that have the all the first, second,
third editions of Sports SOSIA, the first year, the second
or third year. I I remember because one time I
was like in high school, I go digging through boxes
and I found him. It's like these are like gold,
and my dad was a subscriber, and anyway Wednesdays it

(02:02:11):
would come out and you have the cover person for
Sports Illustrated to be would be you know, like the
legend the Week, and then you turn to the back
page and you read Rick Riley's piece and Rick Riley
kind of spend some time with this year on the
Week where his book Commander in Cheat drops and it's
already number six in New York Times bestseller. Let's congratulations.
It's crazy. You know, it's funny because that's how I

(02:02:31):
got into sports writing because my cousin kept him all
and I remember being like six seven years old, like
what is this? And all these great pictures and Zoli
over Size, remember him from the Twins was on the cover,
And then I'd go over. Every time i'd go to
his house, I'd start first, you look at the pictures
and you'd steal a picture with the scissors, put it
on your room. And then I started reading Dan Jenkins

(02:02:52):
and Dan Jenkings like whoa, what is this? And then
I started reading my local paper and it was Jim Murray,
the great Jim Murray. WHOA, I've never read anything like
this either, And I started realizing you could write sports
in a completely fun, pithy, irreverent, uh meaningful way. I
think that wasn't all about stats and what they hit

(02:03:14):
on Tuesdays. And I tried never to use numbers. I
tried to make it about people who did sports, good
or bad, funny, mad, angry, whatever, And that really made
all the difference. Your first your first Calm and Sports
Illustrated was about who or about what. I remember, dal Murphy,
they gave me ten pages in the back, uh. And

(02:03:35):
I go there and he like, Rick, I'm not gonna
give you any time for this, but I want you
to come to my house for dinner tonight and I'll
tell you why. And you know all this great stuff.
And his wife made a pie and and he just
gave me great stuff. And he goes, so, so that's
why I can't do it. I'm like, dude, we already
got the piece and it really was great, and that's
really what got me. It went so well. I got
more and more assignments. Um, okay, So we've reached this

(02:03:58):
place with Tigger Woods where he went from being the
greatest thing we've ever seen to a villain too. Now
that then he was a sympathetic figure right where we
felt sorry for him, and there was the thought he
would never play golf again. And I've I've told people like,
look a couple of things. You're never too drunk to
fish and you're never too old to play golf. Um,

(02:04:20):
And so I always thought that there would be at
least one Sunday at Augusta where he probably won, because
even after Ellen caught him, and there's the golf club
in the car accident. I remember I was at ESPN
then and I was I was said to be on
ESPN two on Thanksgiving weekend were college basketball raps and

(02:04:43):
they're like, fellas, you guys can go home. It's like why,
like Tiger Woods was in a car accident and it
doesn't look good. It's like, doesn't look good, like he's
gonna die. And that was that was the first talk
was just doesn't look good. Then it was like, no,
he doesn't look good because everything else is gonna come out.
So we end up staying and doing the bast a rap.
But he became the biggest story. Anyway, We've had these
different Now he's someone who he appears to be mostly

(02:05:08):
back granted, a completely different version of himself. When you
see tagger Woods at a place that you've covered thirty
five different times, um at Augusta. What's one of the
emotions that go through you watching him when he's got
a tea off tomorrow. Well, I have no emotions about him.
His golf game, which is fantastic. Is the most skilled

(02:05:28):
person I've ever seen with a golf set of golf clubs.
But I don't get how is he a sympathetic figure.
He got busted twice for pills, illegal pills he shouldn't
have had. He had to be woken up twice in
cars by cops on the side of the road. He
all his injuries were self inflicted. He did this to himself.
He tried to be an army ranger and couldn't because

(02:05:48):
his dad was military. He had fourteen affairs going. I'm
one of the hot against one of the hottest women
I've ever seen with his wife. So he's got a
five hundred million dollars Why is I don't get why
everyone's like, oh no, we want tigers so bad. He's
terrible with fans. He's finally being a little nicer in

(02:06:09):
interviews and smiles a little. But Phil never passes up
a fan Phil tips with hundreds. I mean, I have
so many tipping stories where Tiger just stiffs the guy,
or he doesn't need desserts, so he gets up from
the table and leaves no money for anybody to pay
his He was famous, too young. His dad absolutely let
him get away with whatever he wanted outside the golf course,

(02:06:31):
and so he I think he was raised very, very poorly.
And yeah, great golfer, incredible story. But I don't get this. Oh,
I really want Tiger to win. You want a great
kid to win, who could be that could at least
try to keep up with Tiger. For Rory, that is
a great guy who could win the career Slam this weekend.

(02:06:53):
I mean, he's fantastic. Ricky Fowler, Jordan Speed couldn't be
a nicer kid who was great with with every buddy.
So I'm not a Tiger fan outside the course. Inside,
He's absolutely one of the top five players in the
world right now. He almost won his last two majors
almost Remember he won he led Sunday at car News Team.

(02:07:14):
He almost won at St. Louis except brooks Kepka put
on a show like I've never seen otherwise. He might
have his major already. Rick Riley, our guest here in
the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh you
you are you live in l A or in l
A Native so you know? Uh you know that this
Magic Johnson story is front page news even we say it,

(02:07:35):
even though most people don't read by the paper anymore. Um,
what's what? What? When you hear what what? What's your
immediate reaction? Magic Johnson? It's not just that he quit,
it's that he just had a meeting with Genie Buss
and they walked downstairs this you know what. By the way,
I don't want to do this anymore. That was so unmagic,
Like he's one of my favorite people. But I don't

(02:07:57):
even when he took the job, I'm like, really, you're
gonna work hard at this, because I don't see you
working hard at this. Because magic is magic. He puts
his arm around you and looks you in the eye
and remembers your name, and he always with me. He's like, oh,
this is one of the cool guys. I'm not sure
he remembers my name, but he always gives you that.
And he's really personal and I I don't know, but

(02:08:17):
every other job he's kind of had was like, come on,
sell these guys, sell the suits, get Lebron and great,
you can do all that because nobody's more magical. But
if you want him to make a whole study of
how they're gonna build, that's never gonna be him. I'm
just surprised that he didn't hire somebody like like just
having Rob Polinka who he didn't hire, and not they
have no assistant GM right, there's no He's not surrounded

(02:08:40):
by a cast of people. Between Polinka and him, they
have zero experience, so why and their head coach had
zero head coaching experience. But there's always some little third
guy that does all the work. But I don't see anybody. Yeah,
it's too bad. He's a great guy. Really, he really
stepped on it here, he did, and it really I
don't think it ruins, But does Sully the image to

(02:09:01):
those of us who grew up in something California like
I did, Like, dude, magic can do no wrong? And
now you're like, well, he didn't really do anything with
the Dodgers, and the talk show is bad and the
head coaching was bad, but he was awesome when he played.
Now he becomes an awesome player, who's kind of you
start to question anything else he's done, as was he
really responsible for the success? That's unfair. I didn't say

(02:09:21):
it was fair. I never said it was fair, Like
none of these things are fair, but it is the reality.
You judge a man by his body of lifetime work,
and he's been nothing but great and a success and achiever.
And I mean, okay, he kind of stepped on this thing,
but he was terrible as an analyst for both the
ESPN and NBC, and he was terrible on talk show
and as a head coach. Yeah, he was terrible. Outside

(02:09:43):
of that, he was amazing. That's why my guy Alway
never gets any love. Like they want to fire him
in Denver. How many great players did really well at
being He's also taken the Bowls as as a as
a front as an executive to five as a players,
So that's seven and they want to fire him in hometown.
Had never like, what fire him? You should build a
new capital with his face on it. Let's let's quickly

(02:10:05):
get to Dan Buyer get an update on everything else
in sports. I want to talk to Rick about his
new book. A couple of updates. First of all, Part
three contest has wrapped up. Sandy Lyle was on the
verge of claiming the Part three championship at the sixty
one year old Masters winner fell in a playoff to
Matt Wallace of England. So, yeah, Matt Wallace. Matt Wallace

(02:10:27):
the winner of the Part three he is he related
to all to William Wallace. Yeah, I think he is.
I think their second cousins, something like that. Master's chairman
Fred Ridley did tell reporters today it's very unlikely that
the club would institute a Masters golf shouldn't have been pretty.
That's all righty, it's all good. Did you get that

(02:10:47):
completely over my head because I've never seen it? You've
never seen Braveheart. No, never seen it. He's never seen
any movies. True story, right, crazy Reagan was shot. Didn't
hear about that? That's different. I'm a newsman. I've heard
that stuff just in the leisure Time movie. Reagan was
an actor. That's the differences. That's very good. I was

(02:11:10):
in a concert once. Some somebody sits him out Paul
McCartney and the girl goes. He was in a band
before Wings. Oh god, wait, I got I can top it.
I can top it. This is good. Okay. I was
in Many, I was in the Twin Cities for the
final four Minneapolis, right, and we were walking down the
street and there was a young woman and she goes.

(02:11:31):
She kept saying article with quotes. She's like, did you
guys read the article about about about Aaron Rodgers. The
mother used to do that article like, article is not
what you quote like an article is like the lack
of right unless you're being facetious. The report that wasn't

(02:11:52):
she was doing. She was like, article article anyway, all right, Dan, Well,
that's all right. I knew a guy who thought bottom
of the hour was gotta do that. Lot of the
hour was forty something. Just kidding, okay, Padres the Giant. Technically,
at the bottom of the hour, it's the end of
the hour, the end of the hours, the end of
the hour. The bottom of the hour is the second

(02:12:12):
half every hour and anyway, any right, alright, alright, Patres
lead the giants, Everyone but Doug the bottom of the
hours thirty after Padres the giants to use the term spot.
When you have somebody on a radio guest, you use
the term spot. It was a good spot, um no,
because I used commercialized the spot I I do too.
In New York. Okay, in New York, I was on

(02:12:33):
with Mike Frances I just moved out there du with
CBS Radio. And then and I was driving home and
I got a bunch of texts, O great spot with Frances.
I was like, I didn't do a spot. I was
a guest, like it was a great spot, that it's
a spot, Like, it's not a spot. The spot is
when you do a spot. Will you recorded a spot? Okay,
dumbest question you've been asking sports. One time I was
leaving the Lakers game and the guy asked me, so

(02:12:53):
what I don't get his The King's Lakers, right, they
go back and forth with it. And he said, what
do they do with the ice after the King's game?
We put the put down the Lakers? And I said, oh,
every employee have to take a square home and put
it in the freezer. And then one time someone said
how come Greg Norman never gets picked for the Ryder
Cup team? And I said, because he has a deal

(02:13:17):
with you haul and writer. Oh. One year somebody was like, man,
why isn't Messy playing in the euro Championships. It's from Argentina.
Probably be a reason for that. Um well, let me
just tell you this. Tiger's beat the Indians today four
to one. Cardinals gave Matt Carpenter a two year extension.

(02:13:37):
I've got news about a big New York Giants extension
in the press. Lakers did fire someone today had athletic
athletic trainer Marcot. Noon, yez, We'll be back to the
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treat you. Rick Riley continues to join us. His new
book is called Commander in Cheat. Could just show it.
I will. I'm gonna turn it around here so it'll
be on our digital page. It'll be on my Instagram,

(02:14:23):
Yeah it will. It'll be on our Facebook page as
well and throughout Fox Sports rating everything we do, how
golf explains Trump. You do realize that you don't even
have to say anything. You say the word Trump, and
suddenly you've you lose half the people, or you gain
half the half the people you met just go oh,
I hate you, I love you right correct. But here's
my thing. It's not a political book. It's a golf

(02:14:46):
book about a guy who cheats like a mafia accountant.
And I saw it personally, and then he started telling
people on the campaign trail, I've won twenty club championships.
I beat the best guys in my club all the time.
Vote for me. I'm a winner. I'm like, you liar,
because you told me how you did it? Do you
know how? He doesn't. He buys a golf he has.

(02:15:08):
He owns fourteen clubs. The club plays the first round
by himself, declares at the club championship, it's kind of
kind of genius, to be honest, it's kind it's diabolical.
So one time he was playing Trump Philadelphia and they
were holding it at Trump Bedminster, and he calls in
at the end of his round in Philly and he's like,

(02:15:30):
what when what won the tournament today? Club Championship And
the guy goes, oh, Joe Schmo, shot seventy four, shot
seventy three. Up here, make me the champion, and the
head pros like, what, yeah, make me the champ. I
played better than that. So they take Joe Schmo down
and put him up and then it just goes on
and on like that. He won. He won one while
he was with Kim Jong n in in the Singapore

(02:15:52):
and they were holding it at the one in Marlago.
So you're like, you don't get to say you're a
champ if this is all like history, okay, So where
do you begin with the book? Where? Where is it?
Where does it start to start, like in the very
early ages or when he first started playing golf, Like
what is the what is the point of beginning when
when you pick up the book? Where am I going
to start? When I learned about this book, I was retired.

(02:16:14):
I'm living in Italy half the year, playing piano, playing golf,
screwing around, and I kept getting these tweets about Trump's,
Trump's the championship, Like, no, he's not. Oh, Trump's at
two point eight. He goes, I beat most people I
play against two point eight. Yeah, if he's a two
point eight tigers a Rabbi because I'm a five point four.
I can beat him. I met him a hunter grand

(02:16:34):
I could beat him. He can't cover it to Tiger
anakotorans to him, those guys saying he's about about a ten,
you know two point eight. You know how he does
it if you go on the doctor jin dot com
where you report your scores, so you gotta twenty scores
to get a handicap. It's taken him eight years to
get twenty scores, which means he's just and he plays

(02:16:55):
all the time. He played sixty. She does the opposite
of what everybody I know does, which sandbag report all
your beads like yeah, I'm like, I'm like a thirteen.
So dude, get out of here, stripe the ball exactly.
So in golf, you call that a cocktail handicap. If
you if if he's a two point eight in my club,

(02:17:15):
he phone would be ringing all the time to get
him to the course for two point eight. He's seventy
two years old. He's not bass. So the Trump defender
would say Clinton cheated it. God who cheats worse. Okay,
I played with Clinton as president. Clinton only got to
play like once every two months, and so he wanted
it to last. Trump plays in three hours. Clinton played

(02:17:38):
in six and he's hitting all these he plays first ball,
and he had twenty four clubs, by the way, way
over the limit. And then he hit what we call
Billigan's and he hit these extra shots extra shots, and
we're like, oh my god, where's the first one? Because
he wanted to play the first one. But the secret
Service always be like, I think it's on the green, sir,
because everybody wants to be ambassador to Sweden or whatever.
And so he played pretty well that day, but his

(02:18:01):
I always say like Clinton is the guy that goes
the bank and steals the pen, and Trump goes and
steals the vault. You know what I mean? Yeah, I
always fail. There's there's a certain charm to how Clinton
does it where there's a no I just I know.
Here's my knowledge of Clinton is because I played for
Eddie Sutton, who was buddies with them back when they
were both in Arkansas, right, and so we would, um,

(02:18:25):
he wasn't I'm trying to he wasn't in office. I'm
trying he was not in office. When when was he
in office? I'm trying to think, Shoot, I think he
was in office when I was first, when the first
in school there wash so he was that was that was,
you know, my career there. So if we'd win a
big game on national TV, like he beat Oklahoma on
Big Monday, he'd leave a he'd leave a message and

(02:18:46):
he coaching call us all in and play for us
the message or be on the phone and he put
us on speaker phone and he'd congratulate him and again
like there was a certain charm too, even if he
didn't really watch the game, he kind of somebody kind
of gave him the bullet points and then they'd start.
Then they'd start joking around. Then he quickly pick up
the phone because he didn't want us, the rest of
us to hear all the other stuff he was talking about.

(02:19:07):
Let me tell you the difference between Clinton cheating and
Trump cheating. Trump cheats like to win, he's gotta win,
Like losing to him is a bath to the wicked
witch of the West. Like he's not gonna lose. So
he has this he married. He screws around with a
governor on a golf card. Have you ever done that?
To make it faster? So it's fifty and yours is
so him and his carder way ahead and they're throwing

(02:19:28):
it out of the wood woods, and they he's a
terrible chipper, terriffic driver of the ball, terrible chipper, throw
it out of the rough. He kicks it so often.
The caddy's a winging foot calling Pelee. He's doing all
this stuff. And then sometimes if you're if he's way
ahead and you're clear back here, he'll take your ball
and kick it in the bunker. That's now, that's that's

(02:19:50):
that he did it to Tariko, to Mike Ko, like
the nicest dude, the greatest dude ever, ever, ever. Okay,
so give me, give me one more, you mean one
more stories. Banner in Sheet is the book How Golf
Explains Trump, written by Rick Riley. It's already on the
New York Times best seller list, number six with with
number six with a bullet, give me one more. Okay. Well,

(02:20:11):
it's not just about how he cheats on the golf course.
There's all kinds of ways he cheats when he builds courses.
And but he tried, well, he did cheat Tiger Woods
last seventeen, playing with Tiger, Dustin Johnson and Brad Faxton
and it's Dustin and Tiger versus Factson and the President,
and so facting in the President way over here, Dustin

(02:20:32):
and Tiger way over there. That kind of feels like
a bit of a mismatch. And they play the black
teas and Facton and Trump played the white teas and
Trump gets a shots. Okay, it seems still like a mismatch.
Still seems like a mismatch. So there left Trump's Trump
and facts in a right. Trump facts his approach into
the water. He goes, throw me another one. They didn't

(02:20:53):
see in facts, Like what throw me another? So he
throws him another. Facts that one into the water. Now
they seen. He drives up quickly to the lake, drops
hits it on. Tiger hits it like this for kicking Birdie.
And when they get to the green, Tiger says, what
do you lie there? Mr? President? He goes, I'm putting
for four. He told him he's putting for four when

(02:21:14):
he's putting for seven, Like what the f So I
don't know? You say what you want to me. Golf
is like bicycle shorts. It reveals a lot about a guy,
and it reveals a lot about about It's like it's
like Booze Boo Booze will do that as well. Right,
who you are as a drunk is who you are
as a dude. You think so, Yeah, if you're an
angry drunk or an angry dude, if you're funny drunk

(02:21:36):
or light, aren't dude. I remember Arnold Palmer saying I
never do a business deal until I've played whole golf
with a guy. And I said why because because you
can't hide who you are in four hours. If you're
gonna cheat me, you're gonna cheat out here. If you're
gonna cheat out here, you're cheat me in business. If
you're gonna have a bad temper, you're gonna be bad
to deal with. If you're a great guy who plays
by the rules, I'm gonna enjoy it. Pretty good stuff.

(02:21:56):
The book is Commander in Cheat, How Golf Explains Trump.
It's written by Rick Riley. Rick, thanks so much for
joining us. Pleasure is all mine? How close to me
to seeing the end of the one and done? In
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Always Entertaining Dan Buyer joins us. Now with the Press.

(02:23:01):
The Press Douglo discovered short card. We treat you like
you'd treat you. dB what he got. It was an
entertaining season in Durham, but it's gonna be just one
season for R. J. Barrett, the Duke freshman forward announcing
he is leaving school early to enter the NBA Draft.
Not a surprise. He's one of the few players who

(02:23:21):
college basketball I guess would say hurt he would have
been the number one overall pick if we could have
just drafted a guy right before his freshman year. Instead,
he'll probably the number three player taken. Super talented, seen
as a winner, did miss his last free throw as
a collegian, but six ft seven, downhill, dominant ball handler guy. Um.

(02:23:43):
I don't love, but I like and I do think
it'll be better the pro game with the floor being
more spaced out. The NBA and Players Union have held
recent talks. Is the sides look to end the one
and done in time for the two NBA draft. According
to ESPN, they want to get this done almost accept
Doug because of a lot of different things scouting wise,
also teams trading draft picks and certain values, but again

(02:24:07):
they target date. M Um, yeah, I look, I I
think it's a mistake. I think the problem is going
to be there's gonna be so many players that declare
and try and go to the minor leagues and go
to the G League. It will take a couple of
years before they realize what a mistake that is. But
this is the path that people want to push the
NBA down, and again I think it hurts both levels.

(02:24:30):
Heads are rolling with the Lakers had athletic trainer Marc
o'nunia is fired today the day after Magic Johnson stepped down.
So the trainer got fired by the Lakers, and that
one makes no I mean, look, they had a litany
of injuries this year and that's probably why. But firing
the trainer for the injuries, I guess. I mean, it's

(02:24:50):
it's his fault that it's his fault that Alonzo Ball
wore some crumby shoes and sprained his ankle in him,
I guess. In the NFL, the New York Giants have
side wide receivers Sterling Shepherd to a four year extension
worth forty one million dollars. Of course he and now
Golden Tate's gonna have to pick up the slack left
by Odell Beckham Jrs. Trade to Cleveland. Uh so who

(02:25:14):
they sign? They signed Sterling Shepherd to a four year extension. Yeah,
this is gonna be. They better hope that Sterling Shepherd
is there Juju Smith Schuster right, that he can step
over into the number one and be that good. I
don't know what's what's more concerning the fact that they
think Eli Manning is still a very good starting quarterback
with that Sterling Shepherd can be a number one. I

(02:25:35):
would say Eli Manning is more the concern. The New
England Patriots have found the replacement for Rob Gronkowski in
Austin Seferian Jenkins. He sends a one year deal to
go to New England. Well, Austin's Verry Jenkins is well traveled,
but he was a good pass catching tight end. The
question becomes can he block something that Gronk did so
well he will immediately be a top ten fantasy tight end,

(02:25:58):
even though tight end a to be a deeper and
deeper position. Uh in fantasy football. A sixty four year
old mana Missouri has been issued a cetation for disturbing
the piece after he allegedly flashed a green laser pointer
at Tom Brady during the a f C Championship game
in Kansas City. What is it disturbing the piece? Yes,
disturbing the piece? Interesting to charge the laser pointer thing

(02:26:19):
is not new though. You go back late nineties and
people used to do laser pointers at basketball arena. Has
happening in college when I played? Uh? But I'm glad
they found the guy. Did he still have the laser
on him? I don't think so. Did he have any
liquid hot magma? No, it was find one billion dollars,
billion dollars. Thank you, there's some movie knowledge. Uh. Finally,

(02:26:43):
Jack Nicholas said that he has never seen Tiger Woods
as confident as he has been entering the twenty nineteen
at Masters. So Jack giving praise to Tiger, saying that
his confidence level is high as the Masters gets underway tomorrow. Yeah,
I don't I get it. And Tiger having a little
swag to his walk is big, but that also doesn't

(02:27:06):
mean he wins. But I'm with you, I'm not with
with Rick Riley. I think the he may have been
the worst guy ever. He may have done some bad things,
but kind of part of all of these stories, which
is the redemption story. I like. I'm I'm on team
Tiger from the win this weekend, backing out there and
pressed that was the press, So we're left with what

(02:27:30):
next for the Lakers. I still think it's a great job.
It's still the Lakers. You've got Lebron, you've got young players,
you've got a lottery pick, and you have cap room.
But they better get it right, and they better get
it right quickly. H This is Doug Gottlip Show Fox
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